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dattebayo
April 27th, 2007, 09:29 AM
pansin ko lang sa mga kalsada natin tska road signs parang medyo madumi na. kelangan na ng painting and scrubing.

Æsahættr
April 29th, 2007, 04:12 AM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/62edsa.jpg
There's no traffic light at this intersection? 0_o

apiong
April 29th, 2007, 08:49 AM
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There's no traffic light at this intersection? 0_o

yes there was once traffic light on that intersection, but was deactivated once Bayani of MMDA implemented the now signature "Manila-style U-turn Slot" system... although we around here are still waiting for the project below to materialize in that area:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8407/edsa1af9.jpg

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kennethologist
April 29th, 2007, 09:23 AM
^^ kasama na ba yung mrt7 sa CAD-like rendering?

queetz@home
April 29th, 2007, 09:36 AM
^^ In addition to that, I wonder how will that project look like now that the plan is to extend LRT1 to North Ave as oppose to MRT3 to Monumento. Although it would really be nice if the connection is seamless like how it is shown in the rendering....

lightning099
April 30th, 2007, 07:10 AM
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approaching Monumento

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towards Bagong Barrio

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Congressional area

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SM North Edsa

habagatcentral1
April 30th, 2007, 07:20 AM
Guys, I dunno if you noticed but there are some foreign multimedia maps describing EDSA as somewhat a freeway, similar to LA's, more or less like an Inter-state Freeway.

Do you consider EDSA as such due to its width, importance, physical appearance, number of flyovers, underpasses and intersections?

SamwiseGamgee
April 30th, 2007, 07:46 AM
Guys, I dunno if you noticed but there are some foreign multimedia maps describing EDSA as somewhat a freeway, similar to LA's, more or less like an Inter-state Freeway.

Do you consider EDSA as such due to its width, importance, physical appearance, number of flyovers, underpasses and intersections?

If it has at-grade intersections, which EDSA has a lot, then it's not a freeway. A freeway should be free-flowing, at least in theory :D, or until they pass thru toll gates.

Our only freeways are the NLEX and the SLEX.

EDSA is supposed to be an expressway, but right now it is carrying traffic many times over its designed capacity. Hence, it's not an expressway anymore, but a virtual parking lot. :lol: :lol: :lol:

federal
April 30th, 2007, 07:49 AM
If it has at-grade intersections, which EDSA has a lot, then it's not a freeway. A freeway should be free-flowing, at least in theory :D, or until they pass thru toll gates.

Our only freeways are the NLEX and the SLEX.

EDSA is supposed to be an expressway, but right now it is carrying traffic many times over its designed capacity. Hence, it's not an expressway anymore, but a virtual parking lot. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree. Yet I have no choice kaya sometimes I pretend am in an expressway while at EDSA:) from the sections of Ayala to Q. Avenue. I hope exits can be placed so cars won't just swerve in and out similar to that of Annapolis St corner EDSA. Also I hope thru traffic lanes can be designted in T-merging intersections such what MMDA did in Connecticut corner EDSA --> I hope they do the same in Katipunan corner EDSA, Munoz corner EDSA, CUBAO (in front of bus terminals corner EDSA), etc. I hope Balintawak interchange can be improved further.

crappypants
April 30th, 2007, 07:51 AM
wow there are gates now at edsa. i wish edsa would be a seamless road without patches here and there.

richard24
April 30th, 2007, 10:48 AM
yes there was once traffic light on that intersection, but was deactivated once Bayani of MMDA implemented the now signature "Manila-style U-turn Slot" system... although we around here are still waiting for the project below to materialize in that area:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8407/edsa1af9.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4975/edsa2zl6.jpg


its the 1st time na nakita ko plans na to.., bakit siya na cancel? diba with the establishment of the qc cbd i think its time to revisit this plan.

JAMAICUS
April 30th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Wow... I'lll just repost you're pics at the other thread... ^^ ssan mo nakuha yung balita na-cancel yan? May news articles or any proof ba na na-cancel ito?Lam ko, isa yan sa infra. agenda ng QC-mmda itong North Avenue interchange...

Sinjin P.
April 30th, 2007, 02:16 PM
^ I think this article explains it

A month old article, has this been posted already?

MNTC readies 2nd phase of P2.8-B NLEX expansion
(http://www.financemanila.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=107723&sid=494a2df12b48a1e8fdca8ae0e7bfb752)

By Riza T. Olchondra
Inquirer
Last updated 02:55am (Mla time) 03/21/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- Manila North Tollways Corp., which holds the concession to operate the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX), has started preparatory work for the second phase of the expressway’s P2.8-billion expansion to cope with growing vehicle traffic, company president Jose de Jesus told reporters.

In the second phase, a new NLEX interchange will be built in Valenzuela City that will be connected to MacArthur Highway in Valenzuela and with Mindanao Avenue in Quezon City.

“If you are coming from Quezon City and you want to go north, you take Mindanao Avenue and you don’t have to go through EDSA to Balintawak." De Jesus said. "And when you’re coming from the north you can avoid the huge traffic in EDSA, Muñoz and Balintawak.”

MNTC is in pre-construction work, such as completing engineering designs and obtaining environmental clearance certificates, De Jesus said.

The government is working on acquisition of right-of-way, which is expected to come sometime October or November, he said.

MNTC chief financial officer Rodrigo Franco said in an earlier interview that there would also be a Phase 3 project in the pipeline that would connect the NLEX to the Subic Bay Freeport Zone, northwest of Manila. With INQUIRER.net

Louman
May 1st, 2007, 03:37 AM
^^ If they did build that.. how do you get into SM North Edsa with all those flyovers? I hope they do build it as it makes EDSA look more like what it's suppose to be: a highway.

queetz@home
May 1st, 2007, 05:00 AM
^^ I'm sure there is going to be some U-Turn slots underneath them just like with the rest of the existing flyovers we have now.

richard24
May 1st, 2007, 06:51 AM
Wow... I'lll just repost you're pics at the other thread... ^^ ssan mo nakuha yung balita na-cancel yan? May news articles or any proof ba na na-cancel ito?Lam ko, isa yan sa infra. agenda ng QC-mmda itong North Avenue interchange...

nababasa ko na dito sa forum na ang pumigil daw sa interchange na yan ay si bayani fernando. ewan ko lang ah... basta un ung nababasa ko dito sa SSC...

if this plan would ever be revisited.., most likely iba na ang itsura niya because of certain factors..,
1. access to SM north edsa, trinoma and the triangle park.,
2. the lrt1 extension to north ave..,
3. the mrt7

if ever SB wins (which is most likely :) )., i hope he pushes for the completion of this project.., this would be monumental.., and not to mention very VERy important especially if SB wants to lure more and more investors into the triangle park.


^ I think this article explains it

iba yan.. :) iyan yung extension ng c5.., they plan kasi na c5 would pass through NLEX and eventually end up at mc arthur.,
mindanao ave., is part of C5. although they still have a lot to do in order to connect the mindanao ave part of c5 to the katipunan part. they have to pass through UP and commonwealth first.

metrosuburban
May 1st, 2007, 08:48 PM
sa sobrang tagal ng govt mag-plano dahil sa dami ng "iniisip", delayed na yung project, mas malaki pa yung ginastos dahil sa inflationary factor, so asan ang natipid dun??? wala...

TheAvenger
May 5th, 2007, 07:10 AM
4th May 2007

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crappypants
May 5th, 2007, 07:48 AM
^^Can you take pics of the entire stretch of Edsa, starting fr guadalupe north to south? txns.

queetz@home
May 5th, 2007, 08:16 AM
Wow!!! Monumento ain't that bad looking. Notice that some of its older buildings are undergoing some beautification and retro look. I wonder how Monumento will look once LRT1 is extended? I admit, if MRT3 was extended to Monumento, the end of the line won't look bad even though its not physically connected to LRT1 since it shows Monumento as being some kind of terminus. Right now, MRT3 ending at North Avenue looks sucky and incomplete, which it is!

bitoy
May 5th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Wow, walang trapik ah... parang sunday in Caloocan. That's got to be noontime, tirik na tirik ang araw and not that much traffic since some bus routes have been diverted to side streets near the circle.

If the gov't would only remove the center divider/plant boxes and replace them with jersey barriers, that would create 2 more lanes one on each directions and less maintenance to upkeep those plants. Kalat parati yan pag me bagyo.
I would sacrifice the plants/greens for some reliefs of traffic problems daily along EDSA.

oz.fil
May 5th, 2007, 10:14 AM
the billboards wreck the scene around that monument :(

TheAvenger
May 5th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Wow, walang trapik ah... parang sunday in Caloocan. That's got to be noontime, tirik na tirik ang araw and not that much traffic since some bus routes have been diverted to side streets near the circle.

If the gov't would only remove the center divider/plant boxes and replace them with jersey barriers, that would create 2 more lanes one on each directions and less maintenance to upkeep those plants. Kalat parati yan pag me bagyo.
I would sacrifice the plants/greens for some reliefs of traffic problems daily along EDSA.

I think the main reasons for the divider is to prevent the pedestrian to cross the highway (shortcuts). Eventhough there is already a pedestrian bridge (every 200 meters I reckoned) many people especially the masa prefer to cross the highways rather than use the pedestrian brige if there is no divider to block their intentions. (just my opinion)

TheAvenger
May 5th, 2007, 03:11 PM
^^Can you take pics of the entire stretch of Edsa, starting fr guadalupe north to south? txns.


possible at the next opportunity when I ride a bus from Balintawak to Guadaloupe.

richard24
May 5th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I think the main reasons for the divider is to prevent the pedestrian to cross the highway (shortcuts). Eventhough there is already a pedestrian bridge (every 200 meters I reckoned) many people especially the masa prefer to cross the highways rather than use the pedestrian brige if there is no divider to block their intentions. (just my opinion)

yep.., those dividers are there to keep those pesky pedestrians out of the highway.. :) those fences are present in most main thoroughfares... i think 7 main roads un.., quezon ave, edsa, commonwealth, marcos hway, i forgot the rest.. :)

bitoy
May 5th, 2007, 04:25 PM
I think the main reasons for the divider is to prevent the pedestrian to cross the highway (shortcuts). Eventhough there is already a pedestrian bridge (every 200 meters I reckoned) many people especially the masa prefer to cross the highways rather than use the pedestrian brige if there is no divider to block their intentions. (just my opinion)

Yes, EDSA needs more overpasses and flyover/cloverleaf interchange. Those flower boxes can still be tackled by unruly pedestrians while those jersey barriers with extended fence would solve the jaywalking problems.

anonymous_filipino
May 5th, 2007, 06:17 PM
^^ how about using the concrete barriers used in the 8 lane segment of the NLEX?

TheAvenger
May 6th, 2007, 11:37 AM
^^ how about using the concrete barriers used in the 8 lane segment of the NLEX?

if a driver is tipsy at night if he/she hit the concrete barrier for sure that is the end. perhaps flower and trees is a better barrier....
just my view .....

Sinjin P.
May 6th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Wow, walang trapik ah... parang sunday in Caloocan. That's got to be noontime, tirik na tirik ang araw and not that much traffic since some bus routes have been diverted to side streets near the circle.

If the gov't would only remove the center divider/plant boxes and replace them with jersey barriers, that would create 2 more lanes one on each directions and less maintenance to upkeep those plants. Kalat parati yan pag me bagyo.
I would sacrifice the plants/greens for some reliefs of traffic problems daily along EDSA.

How un-environment friendly. ;)

bitoy
May 6th, 2007, 07:08 PM
if a driver is tipsy at night if he/she hit the concrete barrier for sure that is the end. perhaps flower and trees is a better barrier....
just my view .....

Jersey Barriers have been tested to be one of the safest barriers ever developed.

http://www.crestprecastconcrete.com/Safetybarriers.jpeg

It is often called safety barriers also. Not like the designed barriers put in Makati that are really dangerous... anyways, that's just a proposal.


How un-environment friendly.


If it would save lives and ease congestions, it is a lot more environmentally friendly.

Anyone watching COPS or those Xtreme-Police Chase TV shows? See those cars being chased by police and smacks into the center divider(barriers) of the freeways and the crooks still survive to see the next day.

mangnato
May 7th, 2007, 12:38 AM
Helllo,

Ngayon ko lang nakita na me filipino thread pala dito.
Share ko lang yung ilang nakuha kong picture sa edsa tapos ng bagyong milenyo.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/487209549_f0141d287f.jpg?v=0


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TheAvenger
July 18th, 2007, 04:25 PM
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TheAvenger
July 18th, 2007, 06:03 PM
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July 18th, 2007, 06:03 PM
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July 18th, 2007, 06:04 PM
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July 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
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TheAvenger
July 18th, 2007, 06:08 PM
to continue tomorrow night

while waiting .... you may access my blog http:jibrael.blogspot.com

chocolato1000
July 19th, 2007, 10:51 AM
nice pics...those ugly billboards and powerlines are real spoilers.

j.r.
July 20th, 2007, 10:08 AM
thx!! great pics!! i miss edsa he he...

TheAvenger
July 20th, 2007, 01:17 PM
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midwestguy1
July 21st, 2007, 11:06 AM
Galing naman an litratos lahat dito, para ako bumakasion sa filipinas. It almost looked so different since I last been in this part of EDSA.

Sinjin P.
April 2nd, 2008, 06:33 PM
Bump! Medyo lumuwag daw ang trapiko sa EDSA dahil sa pag-impound ng MMDA sa mga colorum na buses, congratulations! :cheers:

habagatcentral1
April 2nd, 2008, 06:58 PM
^^ Mabuhay! At nang di na sila magitgitan sa EDSA! Pero kadalasan lumalabas sila sa wee hours of the morning.

tyronne
April 3rd, 2008, 12:20 AM
Bump! Medyo lumuwag daw ang trapiko sa EDSA dahil sa pag-impound ng MMDA sa mga colorum na buses, congratulations! :cheers:

I have yet to experience maluwag na Edsa. Sana pati na rin yung mga lumang buses i-phase out na since some bus companies are buying new units.

barrera_marquez
April 3rd, 2008, 02:05 AM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z82/jewel_087/EdsaBoni1.jpg

Kailan niyo nahugot ang mga pictures na iyan? Ang luwag, I guess holy week?

rickienoy
April 3rd, 2008, 04:16 AM
tama.. EDSA is noticeably less congested these past few days. meron pa rin mga choke points pero in general, mas maluwag nga.

sana huwag bumigay nanaman si GMA sa mga bulyaw ng IMBOA (or BIMBO-a hehe, mga engot kasi nandun sa samahan na un) at kung sino sino pang transport group...

Chairman Bayani, mga jeep naman ang isunod...

barrera_marquez
April 3rd, 2008, 04:58 AM
tama.. EDSA is noticeably less congested these past few days. meron pa rin mga choke points pero in general, mas maluwag nga.

sana huwag bumigay nanaman si GMA sa mga bulyaw ng IMBOA (or BIMBO-a hehe, mga engot kasi nandun sa samahan na un) at kung sino sino pang transport group...

Chairman Bayani, mga jeep naman ang isunod...

Ako naman, okey lang nariyan pa rin sila, mahihirapan kasi tayo. Baka sabihin nila sa iyo: "Gusto mo ng strike?!" Joke!

bustero
April 3rd, 2008, 07:59 AM
A few days ago I was stuck in a traffic jam at 11 pm on edsa, primarily buses that just stop forever. Unfortunately while we here who are mostly car drivers look at them as the bane of traffic we must put it into perspective that they have more right to the road as they transport more people per space of road they occupy. This does not mean they should not follow rules since the rules are for all but that we should look at traffic in EDSA in it's totality (specially from the total people it transports) than from an individual driver's point of view.

mas wala ring traffic ngayon sa edsa at sa ibang lugar kasi wala nang pasok

leechtat
April 3rd, 2008, 09:30 AM
^^ correct.. wala kasing pasok ang mga bata-batuta..

rickienoy
April 4th, 2008, 10:07 AM
A few days ago I was stuck in a traffic jam at 11 pm on edsa, primarily buses that just stop forever. Unfortunately while we here who are mostly car drivers look at them as the bane of traffic we must put it into perspective that they have more right to the road as they transport more people per space of road they occupy. This does not mean they should not follow rules since the rules are for all but that we should look at traffic in EDSA in it's totality (specially from the total people it transports) than from an individual driver's point of view.

mas wala ring traffic ngayon sa edsa at sa ibang lugar kasi wala nang pasok

touche sir! good points...

i guess being one of the many private car owners who ply edsa daily, i was elated to see these undisciplined bus (and their drivers) get some sort of justice.

still, a few days before the mmda operations compared to a few days after, there is a noticeable change. classes have been out about 1.5 weeks already.

But beyond this minor issue, the bigger issue is an agency of government is getting off its butt and starting to do something about colorum buses. Look at how the LTFRB reacted to this whole thing. It is them who should be going after these buses and yet they even come to the defense of these operators.

Another fact is most of these buses are half full even in rush hour and as a result they tend to be fighting each other for passengers to the point of abruptly changing lanes and over taking a stopped bus. There is simply too many buses on EDSA and a lot of them are operating illegally. And maybe im alone, maybe im not, but getting caught in traffic caused by buses piling on top of each other and picking up customers every freaking day?

Mahirap lang talagang tanggapin na mayroong risonableng dahilan kung bakit ito namamayagpag.

Arciga_01
August 11th, 2008, 04:14 AM
Ano kaya sa tingin nyo ang manyayari sa EDSA kung ang buong EDSA ay pinatungan ng aspalto at inayos ng todo un sewer system?

Also, Is it me or parang sobrang linis ng EDSA dito sa picture na to?
http://www.fmglobalcities.org/Mapfiles/EDSA%20thru%20Makati.JPG

Go bayani for cleaning EDSA ! :applause:

c0kelitr0
August 11th, 2008, 08:33 AM
one of those rare moments na maluwag sa EDSA :D

amigo32
August 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM
one of those rare moments na maluwag sa EDSA :D

my guess, pic taken on the 25th of December:D or Biernes Santo:lol:



Malinis na nga ang EDSA ngayon, lalo na kung yung mga tao na nasa bus o private cars ay tumigil na sa pagtatapon ng mga pinagkainan nila:bash:

Il Tenore
August 11th, 2008, 12:54 PM
Galing naman! ang linis po talaga!

sandman.ink
August 11th, 2008, 01:44 PM
wow linis..naging 3 lanes na lang ang mga lanes for private vehicles, dati siksikan jan upto six, 2 per lane. hahahaha...good job Bayani.

shyaman
August 11th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I wish they take down all those billboards.

Imagine how EDSA looks like without them!

sandman.ink
August 11th, 2008, 02:00 PM
I wish they take down all those billboards.

Imagine how EDSA looks like without them!

it would look unEDSA-like...EDSA is the mecca of advertisement in the Philippines...hehehehe. I don't think manyayari ng walang billboards along the highway.

Igsuonnimo
August 11th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Ano kaya sa tingin nyo sa EDSA kung palalawakin o paluluwagin ito ng kagaya sa Commonwealth Avenue(hanggang sa Mindanao Avenue) Fairview, Quezon City?

Igsuonnimo
August 11th, 2008, 02:04 PM
my guess, pic taken on the 25th of December:D or Biernes Santo:lol:





Parang weekend check-in??? :) :shifty:

shyaman
August 11th, 2008, 02:18 PM
it would look unEDSA-like...EDSA is the mecca of advertisement in the Philippines...hehehehe. I don't think manyayari ng walang billboards along the highway.

Billboards do not define EDSA. Before the advent of those humungous billboards, EDSA was clean-shaven.

And it's not a far-cry to ban billboards on EDSA, all it needs is a local ordinance from the city governments. Problem is, there's no one at the moment who has the desire or political will to propose it.

sandman.ink
August 11th, 2008, 02:41 PM
Billboards do not define EDSA. Before the advent of those humungous billboards, EDSA was clean-shaven.

And it's not a far-cry to ban billboards on EDSA, all it needs is a local ordinance from the city governments. Problem is, there's no one at the moment who has the desire or political will to propose it.

well, for one, sayang ang revenues..I don't know if they tax these things.
also, have you seen EDSA during election time? there's your answer why no politician has the political will.

orangejuice
August 11th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Saan banda sa EDSA yan?

kratos1211
August 11th, 2008, 05:04 PM
Saan banda sa EDSA yan?


between guadalupe and estrella in makati. picture is south bound after the San Carlos Seminary :)

Arciga_01
August 11th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Kahit ba may revenues yan. In my opinion, Dapat talagang alisin yang billboards nayan...Unless gusto ng Kamaynilaan na maging Billboard capital of SE Asia..

boroyski
August 11th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Ano kaya sa tingin nyo ang manyayari sa EDSA kung ang buong EDSA ay pinatungan ng aspalto at inayos ng todo un sewer system?

Also, Is it me or parang sobrang linis ng EDSA dito sa picture na to?
http://www.fmglobalcities.org/Mapfiles/EDSA%20thru%20Makati.JPG

Go bayani for cleaning EDSA ! :applause:

Hindi ba nakakagutom yang Subway na yan?

Eriq
August 11th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Kahit na hindi alisin, sana naman ay may mga batas na dapat silang isunod sa paglalagay ng mga billboards.

Halimbawa, sana meron na rule na isang billboard lang bawat ___ metres, dapat din may restriction ng height at lapad ng mga billboard para hindi masyadong malalaki at matataas na mga billboard ang itinatayo.





Pero mas maganda pag wala na talaga. :)

Waldenstrom
August 12th, 2008, 02:16 AM
cool pic!

RonnieR
August 12th, 2008, 04:43 AM
Billboards do not define EDSA. Before the advent of those humungous billboards, EDSA was clean-shaven.

And it's not a far-cry to ban billboards on EDSA, all it needs is a local ordinance from the city governments. Problem is, there's no one at the moment who has the desire or political will to propose it.

I am also for total ban of billboards in EDSA. The advertisers are crying foul on the bill filed by Sen. Santiago. Sadly, the bill is still in the Senate, waiting to be resurrected. The lady senator filed it in 2006 after the super typhoon Milenyo.

If total ban is not possible, the installation of billboards should be strictly regulated, proper pacing, several meters away from sidewalk, uniform vault/post, restricted height. I think DPWH has the rules but implementation is at snail pace.

Here's the excerpts on Sen. Santiago's bill on billboard:

Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago, a constitutional law expert, rose from her sickbed to argue that a billboard law is constitutional, citing a litany of no less than ten cases decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Santiago delivered a scathing privilege-cum-sponsorship speech entitled, We are Living in Billboard Hell, denouncing the annual P1.8 billion outdoor advertising industry, whom she charged with corporate greed, without any sense of shared destiny.

Billboards are a form of commercial speech, which can be prohibited under the police power of the state, Santiago said.

Previously, Santiago filed and conducted a public hearing on Senate Bill No. 1714, entitled The Anti-Billboard Blight Act of 2006.

The Santiago bill imposes an outright ban on: billboards on highways that obstruct or obscure the view of vehicular or pedestrian traffic; billboards in residential areas; billboards on any public property such as streets and highways, telephone or utility poles; and billboards on the roof of any building. The proposed ban is effective immediately.

Santiago said the Outdoor Advertising Association of the Philippines (OAAP) cited the Top Ten billboard advertisers as: Globe, Bench, Marlboro, Chowking, Penshoppe, Jollibee, PLDT, Smart, Greenwich, and Tokyo-Tokyo.

All your high technology and rationalizing glossolalia will not resurrect those who are dead, she said.

The senator said she has written a letter to President Arroyo, respectfully recommending that the Santiago bill should be certified as urgent.

The senator added that she also wrote the Supreme Court, thru Chief Justice Artemio Panganiban, respectfully recommending the issuance of a memorandum-circular to all judges, prohibiting the issuance of temporary restraining orders, or TROs, in cases involving billboards.

Santiago told the Senate media that Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez was correct in calling attention to the constitutional aspect of any billboard ban, but explained that the issue of constitutionality has long been settled in American decided cases.

She also commended the OAAP for assuming full responsibility for billboard-caused death and damage, but said that its members will simply have to accept that the call of the hour is for a billboard ban.

The senator said critics of the billboard ban, particularly those citing potential lost income and employment, are singing hymns to exploitative capitalist economics.

Santiago said that even before Congress passes a law, local Building Officials and mayors can already remove illegal billboards and sue their owners under Civil Code provisions on public nuisance.

The senator said that as early as 1965, the US Congress already passed the Highways Beautification Act, and later in 2004 the Penn Township passed the Anti-Billboard Blight Act, which she copied and filed in the Senate.

Santiago, suffering from anorexia, rushed home after her speech and requested Sen. Aquilino Pimentel to answer interpellation. Pimentel is also an advocate of a billboard ban on highways.

orangejuice
August 12th, 2008, 11:57 AM
^^ Sa totoo lang kasi nakakadistract ung malalaking billboard sa mga motorista saka masyadong over tingnan sobrang daming billboard sa EDSA. Dapat kung di man maiwasan tanggalin mga billboard, sana nga me specific size,height lang na dapat sinusunod at hindi yung sobrang laki na singlaki na ng building mismo. Di ba nung 2006 me bagyo na super lakas na ilang malalaking steel skeleton kung saan kinakabit ung mga billboard ang bumagsak? For safety reasons na rin.

Igsuonnimo
August 12th, 2008, 02:28 PM
Hindi ba nakakagutom yang Subway na yan?

Meron din akong alam na Subway disco. :)

Isa sa magandang mangyayari sa EDSA kung magkakaroon ng widening dyan sa area na yan.

c0kelitr0
August 13th, 2008, 12:16 PM
Ano kaya sa tingin nyo sa EDSA kung palalawakin o paluluwagin ito ng kagaya sa Commonwealth Avenue(hanggang sa Mindanao Avenue) Fairview, Quezon City?

it will almost be impossible. they will have to demolish billions worth of properties (like Paragon Plaza, GA Towers and some mansions in Forbes Park) which are almost hugging the outermost lanes of EDSA. It will cost taxpayers a lot.

Xeon
August 13th, 2008, 02:16 PM
it will almost be impossible. they will have to demolish billions worth of properties (like Paragon Plaza, GA Towers and some mansions in Forbes Park) which are almost hugging the outermost lanes of EDSA. It will cost taxpayers a lot.

hmm or build a "Big Dig" kind of project to alleviate traffic etc. but that would also cost alot of $$$ :nuts:

cq40
August 13th, 2008, 10:38 PM
Widening? SA tingin nyo ba eh hindi yan naisip ng gobyernong ito noon?
Shempre oo naman eh masyadong magastos kaya overpass at underpass nlang ginawa, cheaper and faster vs widening the entire stretch of EDSA.

habagatcentral1
August 14th, 2008, 01:46 AM
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Guadalupe, Makati at around 4PM weekday

johnmizer
August 14th, 2008, 01:48 AM
sya nga pala, bakait putol yung pink lines du nbanda sa makati, yung kahit pusa hinde na makakadaan sa sidewalk

arsenalrbp
August 14th, 2008, 05:18 AM
bakit kse hindi elevated ung mrt.. me extra lane pa sana both sides..

pi_malejana
August 14th, 2008, 05:24 AM
^^ yung ibang parts ng mrt elevated.;)

arsenalrbp
August 14th, 2008, 05:29 AM
yup. pero i mean lahat na sana elevated..
ang nagcontribute din sa traffic sa eh ung ibang portions eh madaming lanes then ung iba unti lang.. gaya nyan papunta sa quadalupe bridge.. mukhang 4 lanes na lang ata.. so medyo mabagal ung usad from 6 lanes maging 4 lanes

pi_malejana
August 14th, 2008, 05:31 AM
^^ yun nga problema eh.. kinulang siguro sa budget..:D

lochinvar
August 14th, 2008, 05:47 AM
Minadali yata ang pag-gagawa ng MRT3. Some parts are elevated, some part not. And the trains are too few to accommodate the sudden increase in passengers. I hope they would allot enough space for the C-6 Project. It's useless going a much longer roundabout if the traffic is just as worse as EDSA and/or C-5.

habagatcentral1
August 14th, 2008, 05:53 AM
yup. pero i mean lahat na sana elevated..
ang nagcontribute din sa traffic sa eh ung ibang portions eh madaming lanes then ung iba unti lang.. gaya nyan papunta sa quadalupe bridge.. mukhang 4 lanes na lang ata.. so medyo mabagal ung usad from 6 lanes maging 4 lanes

Like the situation of Pasay Rotunda. From a 5-6 laned EDSA from MOA to Taft Avenue Extension, it will suddenly turn into 3 lanes per direction. From 10-14 lanes, all of a sudden it became a narrow 6 lanes because Taft Avenue Station is making a bottleneck in the area.

sandman.ink
August 14th, 2008, 06:25 AM
bakit kse hindi elevated ung mrt.. me extra lane pa sana both sides..

as far as Makati area is concerned, ans as far as I can remember, the rich folks wanted the MRT underground...kaya kumain ng lanes sa part na yan...as for the other parts gusto ata nila hindi roller coaster yung MRT kaya ganyan.

cq40
August 14th, 2008, 08:38 PM
sya nga pala, bakait putol yung pink lines du nbanda sa makati, yung kahit pusa hinde na makakadaan sa sidewalk
^^ hahahaahaha!!! OMG HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!

Actually, yeah i'm not sure bkit ganun, cguro priority ang sasakyan sa area...or sisikip pag sinunod ang 1 meter ruling sa pink lines

johnmizer
August 15th, 2008, 01:08 AM
what i meant was, yuing pink lines sa sidewalk katabi ng mga gated communitties... hinde ba kaya galawin ng MMDA yun? bakit demolish sila ng demolish sa mga squatter, yung mga mayayaman, hinde nila kaya. btw, about MRT not being elevated near sa mga gated communities. ayaw nila ng elevated, kasi makikita yung mga naliligo sa pools nila. kasi kita nga naman yun kapag elevated ang mrt, diba...

lightning099
August 15th, 2008, 08:19 AM
Part of EDSA, view form Trinoma

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2037/2527698854_4a1377bb19_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/2526877157_a188882559_b.jpg

kratos1211
August 15th, 2008, 11:39 AM
what i meant was, yuing pink lines sa sidewalk katabi ng mga gated communitties... hinde ba kaya galawin ng MMDA yun? bakit demolish sila ng demolish sa mga squatter, yung mga mayayaman, hinde nila kaya. btw, about MRT not being elevated near sa mga gated communities. ayaw nila ng elevated, kasi makikita yung mga naliligo sa pools nila. kasi kita nga naman yun kapag elevated ang mrt, diba...

^^Ang mga squatter nasa public space while the gated communities are private lands.

juandecervantes
August 15th, 2008, 11:52 AM
what i meant was, yuing pink lines sa sidewalk katabi ng mga gated communitties... hinde ba kaya galawin ng MMDA yun? bakit demolish sila ng demolish sa mga squatter, yung mga mayayaman, hinde nila kaya. btw, about MRT not being elevated near sa mga gated communities. ayaw nila ng elevated, kasi makikita yung mga naliligo sa pools nila. kasi kita nga naman yun kapag elevated ang mrt, diba...

dapat nasa ilalim ng lupa talaga ang MRT sa lugar na binabanggit mo, forbes park; sa ibabaw ng lupa nandun nga ang Fort Bonifacio - Buendia interchange at ang Rockwell Estrella interchange. Kung atgrade ang MRT diyan, isipin mo lang, siksikan at magiging 2 lanes ang EDSA sa Makati. Buti nga nagkaroon ng kasunduan ang mga inhinyero.

orangejuice
August 15th, 2008, 12:23 PM
what i meant was, yuing pink lines sa sidewalk katabi ng mga gated communitties... hinde ba kaya galawin ng MMDA yun? bakit demolish sila ng demolish sa mga squatter, yung mga mayayaman, hinde nila kaya. btw, about MRT not being elevated near sa mga gated communities. ayaw nila ng elevated, kasi makikita yung mga naliligo sa pools nila. kasi kita nga naman yun kapag elevated ang mrt, diba...


Pink lines? Tagal ko na talaga wala sa Pinas! Have to see that pagbalik ko.....:nuts:

sandman.ink
August 15th, 2008, 09:36 PM
what i meant was, yuing pink lines sa sidewalk katabi ng mga gated communitties... hinde ba kaya galawin ng MMDA yun? bakit demolish sila ng demolish sa mga squatter, yung mga mayayaman, hinde nila kaya. btw, about MRT not being elevated near sa mga gated communities. ayaw nila ng elevated, kasi makikita yung mga naliligo sa pools nila. kasi kita nga naman yun kapag elevated ang mrt, diba...

yung squatters naman pwedeng gibain talaga, kse squatter sila, w/c means hindi kanila ang lupa na occupied nila, wala silang title...yung mayayaman, titled lots yun, they are legal occupants.

johnmizer
August 16th, 2008, 01:23 AM
i rest my case =D pero kudos kay chairman for plating those bushes sa edsa, kahit na hinde pa sapat yung mga yun para ma filter yung mga pollutans dun, kudos

Sky Harbor
August 16th, 2008, 03:38 PM
yung squatters naman pwedeng gibain talaga, kse squatter sila, w/c means hindi kanila ang lupa na occupied nila, wala silang title...yung mayayaman, titled lots yun, they are legal occupants.

Not exactly...we have to contend with the Lina Law. Basically, unless you find the squatters adequate housing and provide them with adequate provisions, you can't just wantonly evict them. :(

Ph Man
August 17th, 2008, 10:43 AM
this could easily become EDSA's biggest billboard
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2769678027_e01b339130_b.jpg
taken a while ago...

galore
August 17th, 2008, 10:51 AM
omg, that's so cool.
i've always wanted manila to have one :)

Ph Man
August 17th, 2008, 10:54 AM
yes it's so cool. i wonder how it looks like at night. this one is in Guadalupe, Makati
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2770520278_25e2be740a.jpg

anyway, if you haven't seen yet, here's my photoblog post about EDSA. :)
http://phrealestate.net/2008/07/13/edsa/

Sky Harbor
August 17th, 2008, 10:55 AM
I saw the billboard as I was going to Ateneo taking C-5 on the flyover from Buendia. It looks so cool, but I wonder why PET Plans agreed to make their building a giant wrap-around billboard.

filcan
August 17th, 2008, 01:35 PM
^^im guessing money...

bartstrife99
August 17th, 2008, 02:24 PM
this could easily become EDSA's biggest billboard
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2769678027_e01b339130_b.jpg
taken a while ago...

Helo siguro guys mas maganda kung lahat ng BillBoard dito sa Edsa puro ganito safety na at maganda pa tingnan di ba! i request niyo na lang sa MMDA na ganito na alng gawin nila!

salamangkero
August 17th, 2008, 02:32 PM
cool concept and typhoon resistant too

cq40
August 17th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Helo siguro guys mas maganda kung lahat ng BillBoard dito sa Edsa puro ganito safety na at maganda pa tingnan di ba! i request niyo na lang sa MMDA na ganito na alng gawin nila!
Kahit Signal No 10 yung bagyo hindi matutumba/mapupunit :-)

ryanr
August 17th, 2008, 06:53 PM
omg, that's so cool.
i've always wanted manila to have one :)

yeah, its cool if only one building did that. I'd hate it if many other buildings follow suit.

IndioBravo
August 17th, 2008, 08:00 PM
So much commercialism! I don't get it really.:ohno:

IndioBravo
August 17th, 2008, 08:12 PM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z82/jewel_087/EdsaBoni21.jpg

Thank you MMDA for bringing back sidewalks to us tax-paying public.

Waldenstrom
August 17th, 2008, 08:27 PM
this could easily become EDSA's biggest billboard
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2769678027_e01b339130_b.jpg
taken a while ago...
thanks Ph_man!!!
bus...mrt... then now, a building?!
sorry, it maybe safe but i don't like a building to be wrapped with advertisements like this. this was once a gorgeous building. it's just too much. :ohno:

mwg12a
August 17th, 2008, 09:26 PM
this could easily become EDSA's biggest billboard
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2769678027_e01b339130_b.jpg
taken a while ago...

so, is this something permanent or if they wanted to change that billboard, they can always do that without replacing the glass covering of the building? I imagine it's painted on or one of those adhesive films for glasses similar to glass tints for automobiles.

Arciga_01
August 17th, 2008, 10:07 PM
Would be awesome if ang EDSA ay lined up with trees and bagong aspalto ang buong ang mga lanes at rare lang un billboards at organized un meralco wires. Oh well, i can always dream :P

Edit:
Tingnan nyo gawa ko sa photoshop! :P
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9350/edsa2ly6.jpg

Sorry na, tinamad akong gawin un kabilang lane :P

Eriq
August 17th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Eto paint-shop ko!

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/ng-envi/EdsaBoni21_edit.jpg

johnmizer
August 18th, 2008, 12:17 AM
jeez, maganda nga yung billboard ng levi's kaso, gaya nga sabi ng prof ko, super agressive na talaga mag advertisers, hinde pa ba sapat ang mga commercials nila sa TV, mags, i-net, etc.. i wish our lives would be commercial free, imagine gt tower covered with this kind of cladding featuring lingerie cladded women. or maybe next time, gagawa na sila ng billboard that will cover the sky... na kaka asar ng nga yung mga billboard on wheels eh.

Waldenstrom
August 18th, 2008, 03:28 AM
^ i agree. kadiri tingnan. parang yung mga bus at mrt/lrt na may advertisements. :ohno:

RonnieR
August 18th, 2008, 05:38 AM
^^im guessing money...

Yes, this company is having financial problems - PEP mess, educational plan, that left thousands of plan holders left hanging, thousands of kids were affected because of non-payment of their plans.

leechtat
August 18th, 2008, 07:09 AM
thanks Ph_man!!!
bus...mrt... then now, a building?!
sorry, it maybe safe but i don't like a building to be wrapped with advertisements like this. this was once a gorgeous building. it's just too much. :ohno:

^ i agree. kadiri tingnan. parang yung mga bus at mrt/lrt na may advertisements. :ohno:

jeez, maganda nga yung billboard ng levi's kaso, gaya nga sabi ng prof ko, super agressive na talaga mag advertisers, hinde pa ba sapat ang mga commercials nila sa TV, mags, i-net, etc.. i wish our lives would be commercial free, imagine gt tower covered with this kind of cladding featuring lingerie cladded women. or maybe next time, gagawa na sila ng billboard that will cover the sky... na kaka asar ng nga yung mga billboard on wheels eh.

So much commercialism! I don't get it really.:ohno:

^^ they must be aggressive, lest people stop buying, then good bye economy.. good bye jobs..

but i guess that company who owns the building is desperate for liquidity, as was mentioned above, thus the reason why they defaced the symbol of their corporate strength...

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z82/jewel_087/EdsaBoni21.jpg

Thank you MMDA for bringing back sidewalks to us tax-paying public.

^^ yes, thanks mmda... i don't like BF, but i think i will vote for him.. he does the job nonetheless..

dreamtime07
August 18th, 2008, 07:31 AM
^^ Nice sidewalks!! nice job done by BF kahit hindi maganda ang Elevated-U Turn nya

c0kelitr0
August 18th, 2008, 08:22 AM
i have mixed feelings about that billboard. it looks cool but it just doesn't seem right. they could have used LED noh? it would have looked awesome at night!

galore
August 18th, 2008, 10:39 AM
well, that's reality.
commercialism, capitalism.
everyone's aggressive, everyone wants to get ahead.

btw, i'm lovin the sidewalks in EDSA.

Juan Pilgrim
August 19th, 2008, 07:43 PM
i have mixed feelings about that billboard. it looks cool but it just doesn't seem right. they could have used LED noh? it would have looked awesome at night!
http://my_sarisari_store.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/edsa_billboards.jpg
I always remebered EDSA with it's giant billboards,
and I was okay with it until I saw other thoroughfares outside our country.

Mas maganda pa lang tingnan kung walang billboard.

Sabi nga nung driver namin, dati raw there were only a few billboards
running along EDSA.
Mas marami raw yung green IPIL IPIL and ACACIA trees along wide sidewalks.
And blooming BOUGAINVILLEAS in the median divide or island,
where the MRT train tracks and flyovers now run.

Tulad nito:
http://pinaypie.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/mm35.jpg
I know the two thoroughfares are not comparable
but we can aim to make EDSA just as handsome.

:horse:

JP

spearhead
August 19th, 2008, 10:13 PM
this could easily become EDSA's biggest billboard
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2769678027_e01b339130_b.jpg
taken a while ago...

ayus uh, pero ano ba naman yan binabuy na nila ang building! topak talaga! :lol:

IndioBravo
August 19th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Sobra-sobra na kasi.Adverts are not bad per se.Pero dapat lagay sa lugar.:ohno:

Arciga_01
August 20th, 2008, 04:01 AM
Sobra na yan..

*boycotts Philippine television..*

Wala na akong mapanood kundi puro commercials, Hinde paba sapat un?

Porknight
August 20th, 2008, 04:54 AM
^^ I like the building with the levis ad , But I dislike the billboards !

Btw for me they should remove 1 lane from each road and make a tram system .

Shazzam
August 20th, 2008, 09:07 AM
Yes, this company is having financial problems - PEP mess, educational plan, that left thousands of plan holders left hanging, thousands of kids were affected because of non-payment of their plans.

I remember this building (PET Plans Tower nga ba?) mid 90's when I got the chance to go up to around 20th floor during its construction. I knew that it was intended in the manner of a condominium form of ownership. If this happened, then the benefits out of the proceeds of this advertisement went to the condo corp, not PET Plans. I wonder how the other unit owners reacted to the condo corp's decision to allow such humongous ads wrapped around their building. This is way too much! Sayang ang building being a landmark along this stretch.

RonnieR
August 20th, 2008, 09:23 AM
I remember this building (PET Plans Tower nga ba?) mid 90's when I got the chance to go up to around 20th floor during its construction. I knew that it was intended in the manner of a condominium form of ownership. If this happened, then the benefits out of the proceeds of this advertisement went to the condo corp, not PET Plans. I wonder how the other unit owners reacted to the condo corp's decision to allow such humongous ads wrapped around their building. This is way too much! Sayang ang building being a landmark along this stretch.

I don't think this building is a residential condo. It is owned by Professional Plan Group that is now bankrupt. They have cases pending in court. My sister is a victim. She fully paid so much and when this company became insolvent, thousands of plan holders tried to get their money back to no avail. Until now, they told my sister that she would only get 10% of the fully paid educational plan of her child, but that remains to be seen. Mas kawawa yong ibang tao, na talagang walang wala....at di pa binayaran.

jefflacs
August 20th, 2008, 05:09 PM
^^ off topic pero ako kinalimutan ko na yung utang sa akin ng Professional. 1st year up to 3rd year 1st sem ko lang nagamit yung plan ko sa professional kahit naghihirap kami during this time pinilit ng ate ko at ng mom ko na pagaralin ako sa uste. Professional pala may ari niyan? yung professional tower kasi na alam ko eh yung sa may boni (I should know palagi ako pabalik balik dun :lol: )

ryanr
August 20th, 2008, 05:15 PM
I don't think this building is a residential condo. It is owned by Professional Plan Group that is now bankrupt. They have cases pending in court. My sister is a victim. She fully paid so much and when this company became insolvent, thousands of plan holders tried to get their money back to no avail. Until now, they told my sister that she would only get 10% of the fully paid educational plan of her child, but that remains to be seen. Mas kawawa yong ibang tao, na talagang walang wala....at di pa binayaran.

I think what Shazzam means is that it's an office condo;)

RonnieR
August 20th, 2008, 05:22 PM
^^ off topic pero ako kinalimutan ko na yung utang sa akin ng Professional. 1st year up to 3rd year 1st sem ko lang nagamit yung plan ko sa professional kahit naghihirap kami during this time pinilit ng ate ko at ng mom ko na pagaralin ako sa uste. Professional pala may ari niyan? yung professional tower kasi na alam ko eh yung sa may boni (I should know palagi ako pabalik balik dun :lol: )

Yes, this is it....may nakalagay sa taas na PET....

RonnieR
August 20th, 2008, 05:24 PM
I think what Shazzam means is that it's an office condo;)

The tenants just lease the space. The owner of the building is the company that I mentioned.....at the top of the tower, there is a big PET sign...it used to be lighted before they became bankrupt. They used to occupy several floors. I know this place, I've been there to accompany my sister.

Wolf1968 ^_^
September 3rd, 2008, 10:43 PM
pero in fairness maganda na EDSA nagyon..

Arciga_01
September 4th, 2008, 07:02 PM
Agreed, Dahil nung bata pa ako (back in 1996). Sobrang kalat ng EDSA to the point na barely visible na lang ang sidewalks compared ngayon but i still wish hinde nila tinayo un MRT lines sa middle ng EDSA.

Kahit makalat un EDSA, Nung wala un MRT, Sobrang liwanag ng buong kahabaan ng EDSA at maluwag habang ngayon, parang sobrang gloomy na ng place at sobrang sikip.. .Dapat inunderground nalang nila un MRT line para maganda paring tingnan ang EDSA.

At alisin un epal na billboards!

habagatcentral1
September 5th, 2008, 05:09 AM
Now I'm wondering, how come MRT didn't followed the LRT-1 model. All elevated? It could have saved lanes that are now so needed in today's congested EDSA.

The worst situation in EDSA IMHO is the Pasay part. No other area where EDSA Extension is so wide then by the time it reaches Pasay Rotunda, it would be converted into a 6-lane (3 each bound) road because the island and I think 4 lanes were occupied by MRT-Taft Avenue Station. How come the feasibility study gave them this kind of result? A traffic congestion that is so chaotic and synonymous of Pasay Rotunda?

Lili
September 5th, 2008, 05:12 AM
Agreed, Dahil nung bata pa ako (back in 1996). Sobrang kalat ng EDSA to the point na barely visible na lang ang sidewalks compared ngayon but i still wish hinde nila tinayo un MRT lines sa middle ng EDSA.

Kahit makalat un EDSA, Nung wala un MRT, Sobrang liwanag ng buong kahabaan ng EDSA at maluwag habang ngayon, parang sobrang gloomy na ng place at sobrang sikip.. .Dapat inunderground nalang nila un MRT line para maganda paring tingnan ang EDSA.

At alisin un epal na billboards!

sinabi mo tungkol sa gloomy-looking and billboard polluted EDSA. That's visual pollution.

pau_p1
September 5th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Now I'm wondering, how come MRT didn't followed the LRT-1 model. All elevated? It could have saved lanes that are now so needed in today's congested EDSA.

The worst situation in EDSA IMHO is the Pasay part. No other area where EDSA Extension is so wide then by the time it reaches Pasay Rotunda, it would be converted into a 6-lane (3 each bound) road because the island and I think 4 lanes were occupied by MRT-Taft Avenue Station. How come the feasibility study gave them this kind of result? A traffic congestion that is so chaotic and synonymous of Pasay Rotunda?

yeah.. tama ka dyan... it was really something obviously not properly planned for the Taft Station... It made that crossing worse... and an impossible extension to EDSA extension without demolishing the station...

and I agree.. kaya biglang nadadagdagan ng inner lanes tapos biglang mapuputol.. causing swervings by cars in and out...

habagatcentral1
September 5th, 2008, 06:07 AM
Just have to check that there is something wrong with their design...It restricts the very heavy flow of EDSA.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Untitled-2-3.jpg

RonnieR
September 5th, 2008, 09:07 AM
^^ yeah, there lies the bottleneck. I guess if they will build a flyover along EDSA going to Extension and exit at Macapagal boulevard would somehow ease the traffic jam however, the best way is to extend MRT to MOA, not sure how it is done, subway?

Arciga_01
September 5th, 2008, 09:37 AM
Wahaha, Is it me or un LRT at MRT stations sa pasay ay korteng krus? :lol:

cq40
September 7th, 2008, 04:54 PM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/taft.jpg
But all that is possible, it just needs a smart masterplan outside the picture :)

oboi
September 8th, 2008, 08:10 PM
Wahaha, Is it me or un LRT at MRT stations sa pasay ay korteng krus? :lol:

Two Stations of the Cross? :colgate:

A pain and burden to all commuters. :ohno:

mr.suroy
September 9th, 2008, 05:09 AM
di ba pede na ilagay na lang sa underground un mrt at wag na galawin ang lrt 1? o kaya, gawan na lang ng flyover parallel sa lrt 1 ang taft at iderecho ang mrt sa ground level, at gawin pailalim patungo sa moa. kasi may isa pang flyover na masasagasaan sa edsa-roxas boulevard kung ground level na papunta sa moa, pati yung globo sa moa mawawala haha..

evilgenius15
September 9th, 2008, 07:05 AM
di ba pede na ilagay na lang sa underground un mrt at wag na galawin ang lrt 1? o kaya, gawan na lang ng flyover parallel sa lrt 1 ang taft at iderecho ang mrt sa ground level, at gawin pailalim patungo sa moa. kasi may isa pang flyover na masasagasaan sa edsa-roxas boulevard kung ground level na papunta sa moa, pati yung globo sa moa mawawala haha..

its better to put the taft avenue station submerged underground...
however... aurora boulevard flyover is there...
baka maapektuhan (siguro? pero ngawa naman ng paraan doon sa ayala tunnel, hehehe)

ok naman yung EDSA station ng LRT1... hindi naman naapektuhan yung
traffic condition ng EDSA kasi nakaalign naman siya sa taft avenue...

spearhead
September 9th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Just have to check that there is something wrong with their design...It restricts the very heavy flow of EDSA.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Untitled-2-3.jpg

sa aerial view talagang kawala-walang art tignan ang manila....

Waldenstrom
September 9th, 2008, 08:55 PM
^ sad but true.

mr.suroy
September 10th, 2008, 03:33 AM
yeah, dito ka lang ata makakakita ng avenues na nagiiba ang number of lanes kada 500 meters, iba iba ang width at length ng pintura sa mga roads, iba iba pa ang kulay (usual white and yellow, may red, may pink, may orange)..

ang mga bubong at rooftop ng mga buildings eh kinakalawang, o binabalot ng lumot.

Waldenstrom
September 10th, 2008, 04:22 AM
^ at sobrang dikit dikit ang mga bahay. :ohno:

evilgenius15
September 10th, 2008, 08:32 AM
yeah, dito ka lang ata makakakita ng avenues na nagiiba ang number of lanes kada 500 meters, iba iba ang width at length ng pintura sa mga roads, iba iba pa ang kulay (usual white and yellow, may red, may pink, may orange)..

ang mga bubong at rooftop ng mga buildings eh kinakalawang, o binabalot ng lumot.

super duper example:
Commonwealth Avenue, hahaha

sandman.ink
September 10th, 2008, 07:35 PM
sa aerial view talagang kawala-walang art tignan ang manila....

am pasay po yan di ba?:)

habagatcentral1
September 11th, 2008, 06:44 AM
Just have to check that there is something wrong with their design...It restricts the very heavy flow of EDSA.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Untitled-2-3.jpg

I think one solution to have a free flowing traffic in and out of the Pasay Rotunda area of EDSA-Pasay is to have a similar interchange junctions like that of Ayala-Pasay Road-EDSA and Quezon Avenue-EDSA. Although the area is prone to flooding but I think there is a way to prevent flooding of the underpass...that's the task of the engineers.

evilgenius15
September 11th, 2008, 11:16 AM
I think one solution to have a free flowing traffic in and out of the Pasay Rotunda area of EDSA-Pasay is to have a similar interchange junctions like that of Ayala-Pasay Road-EDSA and Quezon Avenue-EDSA. Although the area is prone to flooding but I think there is a way to prevent flooding of the underpass...that's the task of the engineers.

dont blame us... hahaha...
mahihirapan mga engineers (ehem) niyan kasi may aurora flyover na,
tapos nasa ground pa ang MRT...
lack of space talaga... pwede nilang gawin yung parang sa Esperanza Flyover
sa makati... ipatong yung flyover sa ibabaw ng MRT...

Igsuonnimo
September 30th, 2008, 06:46 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/2893142363_a66216c654_b.jpg

Approaching Magallanes MRT Station

absinthe_888
September 30th, 2008, 09:12 PM
hindi ba pwedeng i asphalt overlay ang buong EDSA with NLEX quality asphalt? for sure bibilis ang takbo ng sasakyan dun. at matutuwa pa mga motorista dun.

evilgenius15
October 1st, 2008, 02:29 AM
tuloy b talaga yung plano ni BF na gawing garden ang edsa

spearhead
October 1st, 2008, 03:50 AM
am pasay po yan di ba?:)

Yup Pasay, Metro Manila, NCR/Manila province.

Waldenstrom
October 1st, 2008, 02:55 PM
dont blame us... hahaha...
mahihirapan mga engineers (ehem) niyan kasi may aurora flyover na,
tapos nasa ground pa ang MRT...
lack of space talaga... pwede nilang gawin yung parang sa Esperanza Flyover
sa makati... ipatong yung flyover sa ibabaw ng MRT...
the exclusive/gated village residents will protest. :ohno:

absinthe_888
October 1st, 2008, 04:03 PM
i think that's the reason why the mrt in makati is below ground...ayaw makita ang mga bahay nila

evilgenius15
October 1st, 2008, 04:08 PM
grabe sa area between ayala and magallanes...
both sides ng edsa high walls, hahaha...
liit pa ata ng sidewalk...

amigo32
October 2nd, 2008, 03:52 AM
i think that's the reason why the mrt in makati is below ground...ayaw makita ang mga bahay nila

kahit ako, nasa swimming pool, tapos nakikita ako ng riding public, mahilig pa namn ako maligo sa swimming pool na walang saplot:D

absinthe_888
October 2nd, 2008, 08:08 AM
kahit ako, nasa swimming pool, tapos nakikita ako ng riding public, mahilig pa namn ako maligo sa swimming pool na walang saplot:D

malalamigan si junior mashado :lol:

oboi
October 2nd, 2008, 08:14 PM
the exclusive/gated village residents will protest. :ohno:

Isa ka ba dun sa magproprotesta, Biboy? 'Di ba taga Dasma ka? :colgate:

Actually, Ayala joined in the MRT consortium so that they can modify the plan and have the tracks go below grade level in the vicinity of Dasma and Forbes.

igi_master
October 3rd, 2008, 02:14 AM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/taft.jpg
But all that is possible, it just needs a smart masterplan outside the picture :)

Kaya lang naman kasi nagiging worst ang traffic sa area na yan ay dahil dyan ang babaan ng mga pasahero at sa kabila naman ay sakayan mapa bus jeep, taxi etc.

Dapat kasi inalampas na yung MRT station at dapat singlayo ng Nort station mula sa kanto. Tama lang naman maglakad ang mga tao para nalang pinaka ehersisyo

manila_eye
October 3rd, 2008, 05:45 PM
wala bang plan na i-extend ang mrt papuntang MOA? sobrang trapik kasi sa area na yan.

evilgenius15
October 3rd, 2008, 06:18 PM
wala bang plan na i-extend ang mrt papuntang MOA? sobrang trapik kasi sa area na yan.

mahirap...
unless elevated, ok sana... kaso nasa ground...
ang tendency yung mga vehicles galing sa baclaran, liliko pa ng edsa...
up to magallanes... kasi hanggang magallanes, nasa ground ang mrt...
additional traffic na naman yun...:ohno:

le Reine
October 3rd, 2008, 06:24 PM
Hindi ba puwedeng gibain na lang yung station na yan at ilagay sa underground hanggang moa? Yun lang yung nakikita kong solution.

evilgenius15
October 3rd, 2008, 06:58 PM
Hindi ba puwedeng gibain na lang yung station na yan at ilagay sa underground hanggang moa? Yun lang yung nakikita kong solution.

elevated nalang siguro... matagalang excavation ang mangyayari...
lalong titindi ang traffic congestion sa taft... tapos saka nalang mag underground kapag lumagpas na nang taft...

Sinjin P.
October 4th, 2008, 05:43 PM
^ If they did it in Boston, why not in 'Pinas? :lol:

Arciga_01
October 4th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Simple example na hinde possible dito: Corruption :)

Rodel
October 11th, 2008, 04:19 PM
wala bang plan na i-extend ang mrt papuntang MOA? sobrang trapik kasi sa area na yan.

this is a good idea...however, if you observed, lahat ng sm malls malayo sa mrt stations...

jefflacs
October 11th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Nagtataka lang ako bakit yung ortigas station ng MRT3 parang out of place, sana ginawa na lang nilang underground sa may galleria/POEA

barrera_marquez
October 11th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Nagtataka lang ako bakit yung ortigas station ng MRT3 parang out of place, sana ginawa na lang nilang underground sa may galleria/POEA

Sigurado, tatanggalin yung flyover kapag ginawa nila yun, ang dami kayang suppport beams dun na nakabaon...

evilgenius15
October 12th, 2008, 02:47 AM
^^ idaan nila yung railtrack out of EDSA (parang may space pa raw...)
hahaha...

SM Makati lang yung close sa MRT station

leechtat
October 12th, 2008, 07:34 AM
^^ and soon to be sm north annex lrt loop station..

evilgenius15
October 12th, 2008, 12:20 PM
^^ saan kaya ilalagay yung connection sa lrt at sm north annex...
baka sa the garden na mismo? hehehe

Dreamtofly
October 13th, 2008, 06:37 AM
It was a big surprise to me to see that the color of edsa was literally changed to PINK. ARE the Philippines nations of PINK gender?

Can we call our country as the PINK Panther…..

What on the mind of those people who choose that color.
:ohno::bash:

absinthe_888
October 13th, 2008, 07:35 AM
I was a big surprise to me to see that the color of edsa was literally changed to PINK. ARE the Philippines nations of PINK gender?

Can we call our country as the PINK Panther…..

What on the mind of those people who choose that color.
:ohno::bash:

Bayani Fernando Fenk :lol:

RonnieR
October 13th, 2008, 10:52 AM
4 hurt as billboards fall along EDSA


By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 15:52:00 10/13/2008


MANILA, Philippines – (UPDATE) Three billboards on the southbound and northbound lanes along EDSA fell during a downpour Monday, injuring four people and snarling traffic, authorities said.

The victims, who were rushed to the East Avenue Medical Center, were two males and two females, including one who was identified only as Diane, a vendor, according to Miguel Melgar, a village councilor of West Crame who was on the scene of the accident that occurred between 2:30 p.m. and 3 p.m.

Melgar said the Jollibee billboard fell on the St. Jude bus terminal where one of its buses bound for Tabaco-Legazpi and with plate number EVG 294 was hit. However, none of the passengers was injured.

Roberto Esquivel, head of the Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) sidewalk clearing operations, said there were two other billboards that fell in the area.

Initial reports said that a billboard that advertises Purefoods luncheon meat fell on top of a car repair shop, also along the southbound lane while another fell along P. Tuazon Avenue on the northbound lane of EDSA. No one was reported hurt in both incidents.

As of posting time, the Department of Public Works and Highways and MMDA are dismantling the billboards.

Esquivel said the DPWH, the advertising agencies that put up the billboards, and the owner of the building where the St. Jude terminal was located should be held liable.

Esquivel also said that the Jollibee billboard was oversized, measuring over 80 feet high.

johnmizer
October 13th, 2008, 12:51 PM
ilan pa ba dapat masaktan,mamatay para eh ban na ang billboard sa pinas! kaasar na! ung mga city officials nama, they'd rather have millions of pesos, than the safety of thier constituents. KAASAR... SANA ALISIN NA NI BF YAN!

BF 4 PRESIDENT!

IndioBravo
October 13th, 2008, 10:55 PM
^^MMDA wanted all the billboards down.But DPWH said they should handle this problem.So the people who got hurt should sue DPWH! Yan Kase!!Epal!!!:bash:

RonnieR
October 14th, 2008, 06:29 AM
Everytime DPWH conducts an inspection and the supposedly tearing down of billboards, puro media, but NO action was done. Nagkakaayusan kasi ang mga contractors and DPWH.

crappypants
October 14th, 2008, 07:13 AM
HIndi ba yan ang no. one corrupt govt. agency , dpwh , bat hindi ba yan ioverhaul. yung pinakamataas siguro ang nakikinabang.

RonnieR
October 14th, 2008, 07:31 AM
HIndi ba yan ang no. one corrupt govt. agency , dpwh , bat hindi ba yan ioverhaul. yung pinakamataas siguro ang nakikinabang.

Yeah, DPWH, BOC, BIR, top 3 corrupt agencies based on surveys or perception. The top spot is anyone of them.

boroyski
October 14th, 2008, 07:40 AM
MMDA clears fallen billboard along EDSA
10/14/2008 | 12:56 PM

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/126924/MMDA-clears-fallen-billboard-along-EDSA

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines – The Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) on Tuesday dismantled the billboard that collapsed along the Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) in Quezon City.

A report aired over QTV’s Balitanghali said that the MMDA dismantled the fallen billboard even as the task falls under the jurisdiction of the local government and the Department of Public Works and Highways.

The MMDA said that it will charge the billboard’s owner for the operation’s labor and equipment costs. The agency earlier said the billboard's owner had violated the billboard law.

In a radio interview on Monday, MMDA traffic enforcement group Director Roberto Esquivel said the billboard had no permit and that the structure supporting it had weakened.

Strong winds and rains reportedly caused the billboard to topple on St. Jude Bus Terminal and The incident left five people injured, namely Maryjoy Orosco, 18; Diana Enopia, 21; Mercy Alano Tumasar, 21; Jerry Alano, 40; and Allan Madrlejos, 34. The five were rushed to the East Avenue Medical Center. - Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV

johnmizer
October 14th, 2008, 10:00 AM
you see, a true leader knows when and what to do. i swear allegiance to BF

BAYANI FERNANDO FOR PRESIDENT

RonnieR
October 14th, 2008, 10:56 AM
MMDA clears fallen billboard along EDSA
10/14/2008 | 12:56 PM

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/126924/MMDA-clears-fallen-billboard-along-EDSA

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines – The Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) on Tuesday dismantled the billboard that collapsed along the Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) in Quezon City.

A report aired over QTV’s Balitanghali said that the MMDA dismantled the fallen billboard even as the task falls under the jurisdiction of the local government and the Department of Public Works and Highways.



:bash: :bash: DPWH is really corrupt! They can't even dismantle the illegal billboards - accidents waiting to happen.

MMDA is always there....thanks BF

Goku_25
October 14th, 2008, 03:49 PM
Ang pag-gagawa ng billboard should be banned not only in EDSA but also to NLEx, SLEx, C-5, STAR Tollway, at lalo na SCTEx!!!!:bash:

Hay DPWH, ewan!!!!:ohno: Billboards are eyesores!!!!!

flymordecai
October 14th, 2008, 11:00 PM
I hope the entire stretch of EDSA will be laid over with asphalt in the near future and that it becomes a discipline zone where driving laws are actually followed.

Arciga_01
October 14th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Same here at sana tree lined un buong kahabaan ng Edsa, Alot like the Pasig part of C-5 road.

absinthe_888
October 15th, 2008, 06:39 PM
MMDA bans taxis at yellow lanes in EDSA, says they plan to strictly enforce the no swerving policy...

IndioBravo
October 16th, 2008, 12:22 AM
^^One more thing.....Taxis.I hope LTO or whatever agency concerned would make taxi rides safer and less troublesome.Aside from the new scheme of giving receipts,I think it's more impt. to have a more safer taxi service.IMO independent taxi operators should be inclined to be listed to bigger taxi operators,just so to have them located and listed.Just like a franchised store,in that manner,they could be located if there is some complaint or problem with their service. i.e. Jologs taxi should be listed w/ Sturdy or R & E,so Jologs taxi will disappear and become instead Sturdy or R & E.....I haven't even started by requiring all of them to have call radios.:)

habagatcentral1
October 16th, 2008, 12:12 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Misc11.jpg
Southbound EDSA approaching Timog-Kamuning Flyover

crappypants
October 16th, 2008, 06:53 PM
sana paalisin na yang mga bus na yan at wala namang sakay. everyday that passes, it just creates pollution , waste of money . baka makatipid ng malaki sa pagpipintura ng mga kulay usok na gusale.

Arciga_01
October 17th, 2008, 12:00 AM
Wow, I just saw EDSA-Kamuning on TV (the weird overpass). I can't believe what i saw! I remember back in 1996, that same area have a almost non-exisiting sidewalk and filled with so many buses and the MRT Island is turning black. Ngayon, Biglang luminis and un sidewalk is so wide its unbelievable and the old "white" overpass turned pink xD !

Also, Naghatid kami sa Cubao kagabi and i can't believe that my driver and the cars near us was scared to use the Yellow lane. Dahil sa mga hidden MMDA Cameras at ayaw nilang mahuli. :lol:
Katapat lang pala ng pinoy drivers ay mga hidden camera's para sumunod sa batas trapiko :lol: !

Ganda ng mga improvements sa EDSA over this past years! Sana sunod naman nilang gawin ay aspaltohin ang buong EDSA!

Go BF!!

@habagatcentral1: May napansin ako. is it me or un mga buses hinde lumalabas ng Yellow lane? :lol:

crappypants
October 17th, 2008, 01:10 AM
^^picture

evilgenius15
October 17th, 2008, 05:18 AM
kailan pala magsstart yung edsa bus system ng mmda???
parang wala lang kasi tingnan ung mga loading/unloading bay sa ngayon, hehehe

Ph Man
October 17th, 2008, 07:51 PM
metro manila buses are not allowed to go beyond the yellow lane. they are to stay in the outer lanes only. except of course for regional buses, who should stay within the inner lanes, and should not pick up and drop down passengers anywhere. that's what i know. :)

crappypants
October 17th, 2008, 09:28 PM
these crazy buses leapfrog each other to pick up passengers and bypass each other. It's so dangerous and creates so much traffic since there are so many of them. Buendia (Gil Puyat) pasay area that's just a clusterf#ck of buses and jeepneys passing each other then making Uturns with disregard to any traffic law whatsoever.

Dreamtofly
October 18th, 2008, 11:24 AM
sana paalisin na yang mga bus na yan at wala namang sakay. everyday that passes, it just creates pollution , waste of money . baka makatipid ng malaki sa pagpipintura ng mga kulay usok na gusale.

Will, if you want manila to be clean they should stop the usage of diesel or convert all to gasoline. Diesel is the one polluting the air of metro manila.

Grabe nga maitim ang mga building ng manila pati flyover.

Arciga_01
October 18th, 2008, 09:32 PM
Grabe nga maitim ang mga building ng manila pati flyover.

Don't forget the road itself! Pati kalye nangingitim :lol:

metrosuburban
October 19th, 2008, 09:03 AM
^^One more thing.....Taxis.I hope LTO or whatever agency concerned would make taxi rides safer and less troublesome.Aside from the new scheme of giving receipts,I think it's more impt. to have a more safer taxi service.IMO independent taxi operators should be inclined to be listed to bigger taxi operators,just so to have them located and listed.Just like a franchised store,in that manner,they could be located if there is some complaint or problem with their service. i.e. Jologs taxi should be listed w/ Sturdy or R & E,so Jologs taxi will disappear and become instead Sturdy or R & E.....I haven't even started by requiring all of them to have call radios.:)

wala kang mapapala sa LTO swear!

IndioBravo
October 19th, 2008, 08:27 PM
^^Simple and safe transport service is all we ask,yet our govt. can't provide it.Mabuti pa siguro wala ng gobyerno.:lol:

Goku_25
October 20th, 2008, 01:13 AM
EDSA Kamuning flyover

Sorry for the low quality pic... taken yan kanina

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2955678661_216126d1cc_o_d.jpg

crappypants
October 21st, 2008, 09:04 PM
47 died from bus accidents in Edsa last year. Now the famous Dr. Sarabia is the latest casualty, only when a PROMINENT person is involved in an accident do they act. now the LTO is mulling stricter regulations and increased driving education for the bus drivers. duh , you think? really?

crappypants
October 21st, 2008, 09:20 PM
Metro
Speeding bus hits car, 2 other buses on Edsa
By Reinir Padua
Wednesday, October 22, 2008


A doctor was burned beyond recognition when his luxury car burst into flames after being hit from behind by a speeding passenger bus on Edsa in Quezon City early yesterday.

The Mercedes Benz (NFH-602) burst into flames while Dr. Francisco Sarabia, owner of the Sarabia optical clinic in Riverbanks, Marikina City, was still inside, preventing bystanders from rescuing him.

“The strong impact might have caused a spark inside the car’s engine that eventually led to the flames,” Superintendent Norberto Babagay, chief of the Traffic Enforcement Unit of the Quezon City Police District, told reporters in an interview.

Sarabia’s body “could not be recognized” when he was recovered from the sedan after the fire was put out, Inspector Erlito Renegin said.

Sarabia, 52, belonged to a clan operating a chain of optical clinics all over the country. Losar Optics Inc. human resources supervisor Christian Bonquin said the clinics operate separately but have an association headed by Sarabia’s cousin, Federico Sarabia, who owns Losar Optics. The driver of the passenger bus, Martinito Madrid, 34, surrendered to the police hours after the incident.

“He (Madrid) is facing charges of reckless imprudence resulting in homicide, multiple physical injuries and damage to property,” Babagay said.

The incident happened at 3:15 a.m. on the northbound lane of Edsa in front of Camp Aguinaldo.

According to Babagay, Madrid, who drove a Joanna Jesh Bus (TYG-660), “appeared to be racing with” another bus (TXE-812) of the same liner just before the incident happened.

At one point, the driver of the other bus stepped on the brake pedal, prompting Madrid to swerve his vehicle to the right to avoid hitting the other passenger bus.

But Madrid did not notice that the Mercedes Benz driven by Sarabia was in front of him. As the bus hit Sarabia’s car, the smaller vehicle was propelled forward several meters and spun around twice.

Following the collision with the Benz, Madrid’s bus hit the rear of a Commuter Bus Liner unit picking up passengers at a nearby loading bay, then swerved to the left and hit the front right portion of the other Joanna Jesh Bus unit.

Domingo dela Tongga, a passenger who got off the Commuter Bus, was able to pull out Sarabia’s passenger, Henny Garcia, moments before the Benz burst into flames. Babagay said Garcia was initially brought to the East Avenue Medical Center (EAMC) for treatment but was eventually transferred to the St. Luke’s Medical Center.

Two others, Salvador and Ligaya de Guzman, were injured in the collision and were brought to the EAMC. The De Guzmans were passengers in Madrid’s bus, which had about 20 passengers when the accident happened, Babagay said.

Renegin told The STAR that it took about 15 minutes for the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority personnel to put out the flames that engulfed the Mercedez Benz.

Babagay said the incident caused a traffic jam for about an hour as authorities cleared the area.

According to Madrid, he was driving at 80 kilometers per hour when the incident happened. But according to Babagay, the downward slope in that part of Edsa where the accident occurred might have caused the bus to run faster.

Madrid denied initial reports that he went into hiding after the incident happened. He said he planned to turn himself in at the Philippine National Police headquarters at Camp Crame, which is also near the site of the mishap.

He eventually decided to go to their bus liner’s office in Taguig City before surrendering himself to the police at around 8 a.m.

Meanwhile, Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) chairman Thompson Lantion suspended yesterday the franchises of the two Joanna Jesh buses and the Commuter bus involved in yesterday’s incident pending the results of an investigation into the crash.

“We have summoned the operators to explain why their franchises should not be cancelled,” he told The STAR. – With Perseus

dvbaicrviser
October 21st, 2008, 11:37 PM
Gobyerno na dapat ang humawak ng mga bus. O kaya isang malaking korporasyon ang mag-operate.

johnmizer
October 22nd, 2008, 12:49 AM
may phobia na naman tuloy ako sa edsa whenever the sun is out

kratos1211
October 22nd, 2008, 02:46 AM
^^ When I drive along our major highway or expressway and approaching any major stop or going downhill, I will always drive into a lane with no big trucks 10 wheeler or buses behind me. I always feel that their brakes will fail because of poor maintenance or overloaded cargoes.

boroyski
October 22nd, 2008, 03:35 AM
Gobyerno na dapat ang humawak ng mga bus. O kaya isang malaking korporasyon ang mag-operate.

Tanggalin lahat ang private bus sa MM, magtayo ng maraming MRT/LRT, at gawing BRT system na lang ang mga bus na yan, controlled by government via MMDA.

crappypants
October 22nd, 2008, 04:17 AM
hindi lang yon ,talagang nanggigitgit sila, walang mga modo. siempre dahil ikaw ang mawawala sa mundo ,responsibilidad mo yon na iwasan sila. at wala halos mga laman. panay usok lang ang silbe.

mwg12a
October 22nd, 2008, 04:28 AM
Tanggalin lahat ang private bus sa MM, magtayo ng maraming MRT/LRT, at gawing BRT system na lang ang mga bus na yan, controlled by government via MMDA.

Magandang idea yan actually, LTR/MRT at mga BRT na electric or solar powered, wala na ring masyadont jeepneys except sa mga peripheral junctions lang tapos Ejeep ang gamitin, pati taxi, dapat etaxi na rin. Makakatuling sa pagbabawas ng gamit ng gasolina. Dagdagan ang hydropower plants, gumamit ng clean coal, windmill at kung posible pa na may nuclear power plant, giginhawa ang buhay sa pilipinas lalo na kung may rail system mula aparri (o Batanes kung maari) hanggang Jolo.... tapos transphil highway, sigurado ako medyo uunlad ang pilipinas lalo na kung ang mga asawa or magulang ng mga OFW magstart ng small businesses, kayse nakatunganga sa bahay nag aantay ng padala galing sa ibang bansa....


Dapat dito ang ubusin ng gobyerno ang oras nilang mangutang sa ibang bansa, tapos privatized nila para hindi na sa gobyerno nanggagaling ang pang bayad dito.

habagatcentral1
October 22nd, 2008, 05:26 AM
Kin of prominent docs dies in car mishap
By Nancy C. Carvajal | Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines – A member of a prominent family of optometrists and ophthalmologists died in a vehicular accident on Santolan along Edsa before dawn Tuesday.

Dr. Francisco Sarabia, 52, a resident of Marikina City, was killed when the Mercedes Benz (plate number NFH 602) he was driving burst into flames after it was hit by a speeding passenger bus at 3:16 a.m.

A group of men tried to get him out of the burning vehicle but failed. His body was burned beyond recognition.

Sarabia was the grandson of Dr. Federico Sarabia, the country’s first optometrist.

Quezon City Traffic head Senior Supt. Norberto Babagay said four other people were hurt in the accident that involved the victim’s vehicle and two passenger buses.

One of them was Sarabia’s companion, Henny Garcia, 52, of Iloilo City. The others were Salvador and Ligaya de Guzman, 38, both of Pinagbuhatan, Pasig City, and Laurentino Betino, a bus conductor.

They were brought to the East Avenue Medical Center for treatment by passersby. Garcia was later transferred to St. Luke’s Medical Center.

Babagay said an initial investigation showed that Sarabia and Garcia were traveling on the northbound lane of Edsa Santolan when their car was hit from behind by a Joanna Jesh Transport bus (plate number TYG 660) with Martineto Madrid behind the wheel.

“The bus must have been running at high speed because the impact made the victim’s car turn several times until it ended up facing the opposite direction,” he added.

“Apart from the fact that the bus was speeding, the road in that area slopes downward and vehicles automatically pick up speed,” Babagay said.

According to him, Madrid escaped after the accident but surfaced at his office several hours later to turn himself in. He was accompanied by a staffer of the bus company.

Madrid said he only left the scene because he was afraid of being mauled by bystanders. He also denied that he was racing with another Joanna Jesh bus before the incident. The driver told investigators that he was following the bus when it suddenly stopped, forcing him to swerve to the right.

His bus, however, hit the back of a Commuters Bus that had stopped to pick up passengers.

Madrid said he swerved to the left, but this time, he hit the Benz, which spun around several times.

Babagay said that after the collision, Sarabia’s car burst into flames. Bystanders managed to get Garcia out of the car. When they came back for Sarabia, the front of the vehicle blew up, forcing them to run for cover.

Rescuers managed to put out the fire but found only the victim’s charred body in the driver’s seat.





^^ With these kind of drivers in EDSA on the wee hours of the morning...I think MMDA has to do something about it....muntikan na rin kaming maaksidente last Tuesday while we were going to Makati from Cubao near Buendia when a bus suddenly swerved without any signal. ANd it is swerving out of the yellow lane while the private car lane is speeding! Wala pang kailaw-ilaw ang EDSA at that time!

:wtf:

Deus Ex
October 22nd, 2008, 05:35 AM
Bayani Fernando is not perfect. He's not a God, that everything he does would be good for society and community. The No- speed- limit on EDSA is a example of his bad planning.:ohno: Im sure everyone knows what happens when theres no speed limit. Only a fool would be ignorant about this.:lol:

crappypants
October 22nd, 2008, 06:32 AM
there should be a speed limit there, especially if traffic will ease. but regardless there's a speed limit will the people follow unless there are cameras especially at wee hours in the morning
Wow about strictly enforcing traffic laws like no overtaking, slow cars on the inside lane, no turning from three lanes. staying in your lane so drivers can drive at ease knowing no one is gonna hit them from the side or the back. it's like always playing chicken when you're driving , those seconds of guessing games add up to traffic.

JustHorace
October 22nd, 2008, 06:40 AM
Gobyerno na dapat ang humawak ng mga bus. O kaya isang malaking korporasyon ang mag-operate.

Yeah, nationalize the bus system! We can't have some 200+ badly-named, badly-branded, badly-operated bus companies with bad bus drivers wreaking havoc on our streets!

habagatcentral1
October 22nd, 2008, 06:52 AM
^^ The last time that the bus was nationalized was that "Love Bus" that run thru EDSA decades ago...and it never flourished after the Marcos Era...since the transport sector may deemed to be very expensive to maintain.

But I was thinking, if they were implementing a somehow strict provisions in speed in NLEX and Subic-Clark area, how come they can't do it in EDSA? Kahit EDSA muna ang focus ng mga traffic schemes since after all it is the country's most busiest thoroughfare.

Although the speed limit may not be applicable on an average daylight EDSA but during late night and wee hours, the bus drivers become so abusive because there is no "agaw manibela MMDAs" and MMDA Traffic enforcers even...I was thinking, what if they have a 24 hour MMDA traffic enforcer system....just give them those night incentives and hazard pay for the implementation especially in EDSA.

pi_malejana
October 22nd, 2008, 07:10 AM
^^ bus companies should also change how they pay their drivers... karamihan kasi sa mga driver nagmamadali na para makarami ng pasada, ganun kasi binabase ang sweldo nila.. if drivers are paid with a fixed amount, sigurado accidents like this will be reduced...

crappypants
October 22nd, 2008, 08:38 AM
claire de la fuente won't like that.

pi_malejana
October 22nd, 2008, 08:47 AM
^^ marami naman siyang concert eh..:D plug nga nang plug sa wowowee eh..:lol:

shamhoy
October 22nd, 2008, 12:50 PM
The sky is the limit in EDSA!

Chairman Bayani Fernando of the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority said Wednesday that the agency has not imposed a speed limit along EDSA, the main highway across Metro Manila.

"There's no specific speed limit," Fernando told ABS-CBN's morning show, "Umagang Kay Ganda," adding that the MMDA is still in studying traffic along the longest highway in the capital region.

He said in a highway like EDSA the speed limit is usually 100 kilometers per hour. "That's really fast, but that is the usual speed limit on highways."

Before dawn Tuesday, Dr. Francisco "Toto" Sarabia burned to death after a racing bus crashed into his car, which instantly exploded during the impact.

Footage taken by ABS-CBN News on Wednesday dawn showed speeding buses and private cars along EDSA. It was as if the tragic road accident that killed the doctor did not happen.

Sarabia's Mercedes Benz was following a bus, which was parked outside the loading and unloading bay of EDSA in front of Camp Aguinaldo, when a speeding Joana Jesh bus crashed into it.

The Mercedes Benz's gas tank exploded and created a blaze that totally gutted the vehicle and killed the doctor. The doctor's legs were reportedly cut off at the impact and he was already unconscious when the fire consumed his body.

Meanwhile, ABS-CBN News also caught on video a Joana Jesh bus plying the northbound lane of Cubao, Quezon City.

This, despite the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) issued a 30-day suspension on the Joana Jesh Transport.

LTFRB Chairman Thompson Lantion said the agency issued the suspension pending the investigation on the possible neglect of the bus company, which could have led to the freak road accident.


:nuts: Kawawang Pilipinas.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/10/22/08/good-news-bus-drivers-no-speed-limit-along-edsa

habagatcentral1
October 22nd, 2008, 01:05 PM
Nang dahil sa aksidente, naungkat naman ang kagaguhan ng mga bus drivers sa EDSA.

Mentality ito: "Kung di kayo magpapaunahan ng kuhaan ng pasahero, wala kang kikitain. Wala kang kikitain, wala ka ring pakakain. Therefore, humaharurot na bus...profit over safety." :ohno: :bash:

In any case that the bus drivers are abusive or going too fast, don't forget to scream at them: "Puny*** kayo! Ayoko pang mamatay! Kung gusto nyong mamatay, huwag kayong mandamay!!!" :bash: Hay, kaasar mga bus drivers sa EDSA!

Arciga_01
October 22nd, 2008, 04:00 PM
Nang dahil sa aksidente, naungkat naman ang kagaguhan ng mga bus drivers sa EDSA.

Mentality ito: "Kung di kayo magpapaunahan ng kuhaan ng pasahero, wala kang kikitain. Wala kang kikitain, wala ka ring pakakain. Therefore, humaharurot na bus...profit over safety." :ohno: :bash:

In any case that the bus drivers are abusive or going too fast, don't forget to scream at them: "Puny*** kayo! Ayoko pang mamatay! Kung gusto nyong mamatay, huwag kayong mandamay!!!" :bash: Hay, kaasar mga bus drivers sa EDSA!

Thanks for reminding me! I should buy a mega phone and scream at them if ever na napadaan ako sa EDSA :lol: !

Pwede rin tong megaphone nato sa mga epal na jeepney drivers!

habagatcentral1
October 22nd, 2008, 04:04 PM
^^ :lol: Gagawin ko yan, bahala na sila o ibablackmail ko sila...tatakutin na isumbong sa LTFRB or LTO. Kahit masyadong maaksaya ito sa time, ok lang. :D

Arciga_01
October 22nd, 2008, 04:12 PM
Para mas masaya, Bili ka pati ng sirena. Kaso, Baka overkill na yun :lol: !

habagatcentral1
October 22nd, 2008, 04:19 PM
^^ Batuhin mo na lang ng tinapay kung di pa matinag...:lol:

Arciga_01
October 22nd, 2008, 04:20 PM
Un may melamine! :D

IndioBravo
October 22nd, 2008, 08:45 PM
It goes to show that because it's so easy to bribe for a drivers license ,all of us are affected.Dr. Sarabia could have been your family or mine.This has got to stop.But unfortunately, LTO is inutile on the issue.:ohno:

crappypants
October 22nd, 2008, 09:15 PM
what is the motto of govt. agencies there, for the benefit of few to the detriment of the majority.

johnmizer
October 23rd, 2008, 12:15 AM
i ahvent seen a max-min speed sign sa edsa, from end-to end. ,ay speed limit lang kapag may araw na

crappypants
October 23rd, 2008, 05:51 AM
susundin ba nang mga bus at wayward drivers yang speed limit na yan.
diba me anti swerving den pero ang daming nagsweswerve at overtake.

habagatcentral1
October 23rd, 2008, 07:07 AM
Parang kulang na lang lagyan ng pink fences ang buong EDSA para makulong lang sa yellow lane ang mga umaarangkadang bus.

Arciga_01
October 24th, 2008, 02:13 AM
LTO:

Lango sa alak.
Tanga Mag maneho.
Ogag sa mga traffic rules.

Kaya sa kaengengan nila, Binabato si Bayani instead para hinde raw mapahiya un mga walang hiya sa LTO.. :D

Waldenstrom
October 24th, 2008, 06:56 AM
LTO:

Lango sa alak.
Tanga Mag maneho.
Ogag sa mga traffic rules.

Kaya sa kaengengan nila, Binabato si Bayani instead para hinde raw mapahiya un mga walang hiya sa LTO.. :D
:lol: true!

greenshields
October 24th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Mainly, enforcement issue yan eh. Therefore, MMDA should be held liable. They are deputized by the LTO for enforcement of traffic rules and regulations in MM roads/streets. While LTO is culpable for the licensing aspect, the enforcement arms including the MMDA, LGU's and PNP should be capable and able to enforce rules and regulations sa mga drivers.

Again, nothing against BF, di naman siya ang enforcer eh. Trabaho ni TOC Chief Vergel De Dios yan. If BF is made to look bad because of what's happening on the ground, then that's because may command responsibility siya.

barrera_marquez
October 24th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Mainly, enforcement issue yan eh. Therefore, MMDA should be held liable. They are deputized by the LTO for enforcement of traffic rules and regulations in MM roads/streets. While LTO is culpable for the licensing aspect, the enforcement arms including the MMDA, LGU's and PNP should be capable and able to enforce rules and regulations sa mga drivers.

Again, nothing against BF, di naman siya ang enforcer eh. Trabaho ni TOC Chief Vergel De Dios yan. If BF is made to look bad because of what's happening on the ground, then that's because may command responsibility siya.

Hindi lang traffic enforcement ang trabaho ng MMDA, pati paglilinis ng mga kanal, etc. basta may kinalalaman sa development ng Metro Manila...

May speed limit sa EDSA mga kuya pero hindi constant... kapag tirik ang araw, mga 1 kph lang pero kapag tirik na ang buwan, aba, 200 kph na!

Ph Man
October 25th, 2008, 03:51 AM
Thanks for reminding me! I should buy a mega phone and scream at them if ever na napadaan ako sa EDSA :lol: !

Pwede rin tong megaphone nato sa mga epal na jeepney drivers!

Lagi na lang akong napapailing pag sumasakay ako ng jeep. while some buses and private cars are trying to beat the red light, yung ibang mga jeep naman nagbabagal bagalan kahit naka green na at nasa unahan na siya. :ohno: at minsan naman, kahit kita na ang sasakyan na nasa intersection na, aarangkada pa rin...ayaw magbigay. tapos pag pumara ka at sasabihing "tabi lang manong"...titigil na sa gitna ng kalsada. hari nga ng kalsada ang mga jeep at ng EDSA ang mga bus, pero konting disiplina naman sana.

try niyo sumakay ng bus na mabibilis before 5 am. makakarating ka from Fairview to Makati in less than 30 minutes. at pag hindi pa aircon ang bus, brace yourself...

nakakaaliw talaga ang mahal nating Pilipinas. while transpo is so much of a big deal of headache (airport, buses, trains)...sa ibang bansa hindi nagiging problema dahil efficient ang transport system nila. kaya hindi rin natin masisisi ang mga gustong umalis na lang ng Pinas.

crappypants
October 25th, 2008, 07:23 AM
kailan kaya titino mga driver sa Pilipinas. kase napakaselfish. ang lto me kasalanan napakabilis magbigay ng driver license wala man lamang driver education, basta me pera pangbayad. yung pinsan ko ngang hindi marunong magdrive nakakuha ng license. tapos meron pang urine test? porque? what's the purpose of that ,corruption na naman yon.
walang umasensong bansa na hindi disiplinado sa lahat ng bagay.

habagatcentral1
October 25th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Because here's the scenario:
You'll get the written test, you pass and here comes the second test...
Pero anong ginawa ng LTO officials para sa 2nd test (practical test)...they just sign it and go...get your license. :bash: And guess what, wala pa yang "tong pats" dahil legal ang proseso...ang katamaran nga naman!

absinthe_888
October 25th, 2008, 07:30 AM
Wala kz tayong disiplina.

crappypants
October 25th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Because here's the scenario:
You'll get the written test, you pass and here comes the second test...
Pero anong ginawa ng LTO officials para sa 2nd test (practical test)...they just sign it and go...get your license. :bash: And guess what, wala pa yang "tong pats" dahil legal ang proseso...ang katamaran nga naman!

yung sagot nung test nandon den eh. what kind of test is that? :lol:
it's so funny but it's bad for the country. reallly bad. kung gusto nating umasenso that is.

habagatcentral1
October 25th, 2008, 07:51 AM
^^ Actually maraming di nakakapasa sa written exam at magreretake talaga...pero yung sa 2nd test, yung practical test mismo ang pinagtataka ko...pipirmahan lang and go...ganoon kadali...tsktsk! Bad bad bad civil servants! :bash:

metrosuburban
October 25th, 2008, 06:40 PM
kailan kaya titino mga driver sa Pilipinas. kase napakaselfish. ang lto me kasalanan napakabilis magbigay ng driver license wala man lamang driver education, basta me pera pangbayad. yung pinsan ko ngang hindi marunong magdrive nakakuha ng license. tapos meron pang urine test? porque? what's the purpose of that ,corruption na naman yon.
walang umasensong bansa na hindi disiplinado sa lahat ng bagay.

so eto ang magiging 1st world by 2020?? :lol:

Arciga_01
October 26th, 2008, 06:45 AM
Here's an idea, Why don't we make those buses as thrill rides? :lol:

Concept advert para sa bus rides:

Thrilla in Manila at NIGHT! Ride the public buses on Highway 54 (known as EDSA) at night and experience the thrills of riding a bus at 100KPH while dodging other cars, climbing or going down a flyover and much more! It's a ride that you WONT Forget!

(bus companies are not responsible for any deaths or injuries )

Baka pumatok ito sa mga turista at thrill seekers ! :lol: :lol:

barrera_marquez
October 26th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Here's an idea, Why don't we make those buses as thrill rides? :lol:

Concept advert para sa bus rides:

Thrilla in Manila at NIGHT! Ride the public buses on Highway 54 (known as EDSA) at night and experience the thrills of riding a bus at 100KPH while dodging other cars, climbing or going down a flyover and much more! It's a ride that you WONT Forget!

(bus companies are not responsible for any deaths or injuries )

Baka pumatok ito sa mga turista at thrill seekers ! :lol: :lol:

Once they climb the flyover, they will fly na, parang runway... makakababa na lang sila sa MRT tracks...

neil02
October 26th, 2008, 12:42 PM
kahit mga tanghaling tapat mabibilis mga bus drivers.. especially sa loob ng tunnel, tapos hindi pa aircon yung bus.. para kang nasa roller coaster.. kaloka

bartstrife99
October 26th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Here's an idea, Why don't we make those buses as thrill rides? :lol:

Concept advert para sa bus rides:

Thrilla in Manila at NIGHT! Ride the public buses on Highway 54 (known as EDSA) at night and experience the thrills of riding a bus at 100KPH while dodging other cars, climbing or going down a flyover and much more! It's a ride that you WONT Forget!

(bus companies are not responsible for any deaths or injuries )

Baka pumatok ito sa mga turista at thrill seekers ! :lol: :lol:
Ganda ng Idea mo parang gusto kong i try... :lol:

barrera_marquez
October 26th, 2008, 03:04 PM
Ganda ng Idea mo parang gusto kong i try... :lol:

Pwede sa fear factor?

habagatcentral1
October 30th, 2008, 03:31 AM
Hmmm....Biglang nawala ang "Bawal Ang Tao Dito" area ha? And guess what, ang mismong MMDA Traffic Enforcers na ang pumapayag na dyan na sumakay ang mga commuters at hindi sa designated bus stop. :doh: Merong MMDA Traffic Enforcers pero yung bus stop di na naobserbahan...

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/2/photos/253/600x600/9/Traffic09.jpg?et=QZlNKPIhIn94KLMHzSiAxQ&nmid=127067192

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/2/photos/253/600x600/12/Traffic12.jpg?et=uGTF0LjXtXWx7pErUETRzw&nmid=127067192

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and got a video of it....

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greenshields
October 30th, 2008, 06:04 AM
"Ningas cogon" din kasi ang enforcement ng MMDA kaya tuloy di maniwala ang publiko na seryoso sila sa mga policies na ipinapatupad. Consistency, persistence and aggressiveness in implemention programs are necessary if they're to put order and discipline in our streets.

metrosuburban
October 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM
^^ fyi, ginawa na ng mmda ang lahat, pero kung 90 million filipinos ang walang disiplina at ayaw talaga sumunod, eh imposible talagang mahuli lahat yan...

habagatcentral1
October 30th, 2008, 01:13 PM
^^ Ganito din ang scenario sa EDSA-Ayala Avenue. Sa scenario na ito, bakit di pinigilan ng mga traffic enforcers ang mga tao na sumakay sa bawal na lugar at ito pa naman ay rush hour (at parating na rin ang bisperas ng undas)?

Kasi sa EDSA-Cubao naman napaka-istrikto ng enforcement nila sa bus loading and unloading zone at ganoon din sa Pasay Rotunda. So sa palagay ko, merong isyu rito ng consistency of application of the rules sa EDSA.

Arciga_01
October 30th, 2008, 02:24 PM
You guys did say EDSA-AYALA at EDSA-BUENDIA. I think alam na natin ang dahilan bakit hinde naghihigpit ang MMDA sa makati. Since, Sa makati part ng EDSA lang naman hinde mahigpit ang MMDA habang throughout the whole strech of EDSA, sobrang higpit nila.

Bayani vs Binay = We know the drill

IndioBravo
October 30th, 2008, 02:42 PM
^^precisely what I was concerned about this LTO practice.Practical driving exams is non existent.So what do you expect to encounter in our streets,dangerous driving.Now,until LTO starts to do their job "properly",expect more Dr. Sarabias and Senator Saguisag's type of accidents.So who's next?:ohno:

Arciga_01
October 30th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Sana ma dedo ng bus ng EDSA un president ng LTO! He deserves to take a taste of his own wrong doings! :lol:

habagatcentral1
October 30th, 2008, 03:16 PM
You guys did say EDSA-AYALA at EDSA-BUENDIA. I think alam na natin ang dahilan bakit hinde naghihigpit ang MMDA sa makati. Since, Sa makati part ng EDSA lang naman hinde mahigpit ang MMDA habang throughout the whole strech of EDSA, sobrang higpit nila.

Bayani vs Binay = We know the drill

Gantihan nga sa isa't isa...Hehehehe!!! :lol:

mwg12a
November 2nd, 2008, 05:22 AM
^^ fyi, ginawa na ng mmda ang lahat, pero kung 90 million filipinos ang walang disiplina at ayaw talaga sumunod, eh imposible talagang mahuli lahat yan...

Matigas ang ulo ng mga filipino kase. Ang mga bus drivers na rin ang dapat na sumunod sa batas at disciplina na huwag magbaba ng pasahero sa hindi tamang lugar. Kahit makita nila na maraming tao na nag illegal mag flagdown ng buses, dapat hindi rin sila huminto, pagdating naman sa Bus stop, marami pa rin naman na nagiintay na pasahero, kikita pa rin sila. Suwapang lang talaga at mga illiterate ang mga bus driver na yan halos kaya hindi makaintindi ng tama o mali.

Hindi mo man ma=control ang 10 million filipinos sa metro manila, pero ang mga key person ay mga bus/jeepney drivers ang dapat unang sumunod sa batas. Ano ba ang magagawa ng mga tao sa Calle kung hindi huminto sa harapan nila ang buses kung hindi sa mga bus stop lang strictly, e di mapipilitan ang mga tao na makapunta or maglakadlakad patungo sa designated bus stop .