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@Sinjin P.

sir san po ito exactly?ang alam ko na 21 hectares to be develop by ALI is the old Sta. Ana Racetrack..just my wild guess..

this is another exciting development for the Country's Financial District..

this is exciting. hope they'd build really nice-looking office towers in the area.

wow! great news!

I have a suspicion that this is going to be Ayala's development in the Sta. Ana Racetracks :)

I have a suspicion that this is going to be Ayala's development in the Sta. Ana Racetracks :)

Are they going to build a little city there? I might be very tempted to jump on that one. I missed out on Nuvali.

Very interesting... i look forward to more details on this. :cheers:

Actually on Alveo's site it says look for Santa Ana condominiums.

http://www.alveoland.yolasite.com/news--updates.php

Oh, this is the project for the former Sta. Ana racetrack.

Looks like developers are trying to outdo each other releasing renderings that depict a canal, some with gondolas and gondoliers like that of McKinley Hill Taguig Venetian Mall and Festival Supermall's expansion.

To date, none of those renderings featuring a canal have come to fruition. :D We'll wait.

sana maging new rockwell

I hope they sell lots like Nuvali.

This is it! Great, great news!!! It's worth the long wait.

Hope they next develop the former Colgate Palmolive site, but I'd prefer it to be a top notch school campus.

I am also glad. That area of Makati is under developed. Cheers to that.

This is it! Great, great news!!! It's worth the long wait.

Hope they next develop the former Colgate Palmolive site, but I'd prefer it to be a top notch school campus.

yah i agree..dapat madevelop na rin ang Colgate-Palmolive site..sayang yung lot na yun eh..ako naman sana i-develop nila yun for more office spaces..because I think we have plenty of spaces for residential booming almost in every part of Makati..BGC is piling up with a lot of office spaces, residential among others so Makati has to sustain the demands of office hubs..

yeah, it is santa ana race track, sm santa ana had backed out on that said land, ayala has the number 1 priority back on 2010 for the sale/lease agreement

Are they going to build a little city there? I might be very tempted to jump on that one. I missed out on Nuvali.

Had a look at Nuvali, cant see the attraction at all ?

Feed the fish and go to starbucks....

Had a look at Nuvali, cant see the attraction at all ?

Feed the fish and go to starbucks....

I agree with you!

They say it's going to be the next Makati. I don't get that. Are they saying a bunch of corporations are going to just leave Makati and move south? Not likely!

But the prices have appreciated in Nuvali big time. So they must be doing something right.

Plus, I want to own land in Makati that's why I want them to sell lots. :)

maglagay sila ng monorail to makati ave then to ayala ave kong gusto nilang maging new makati, puro jeep guadalupe-bukid at one way pa. papuntang bukid lang yung dumadaan ang pabalik medyo malayo na

Or underground trains to preserve the landscaping on the islands. Love the canal plus bridge and walkways.

Had a look at Nuvali, cant see the attraction at all ?

Feed the fish and go to starbucks....

I agree with you!

They say it's going to be the next Makati. I don't get that. Are they saying a bunch of corporations are going to just leave Makati and move south? Not likely!

But the prices have appreciated in Nuvali big time. So they must be doing something right.

Plus, I want to own land in Makati that's why I want them to sell lots. :)

Guys, Nuvali is just about 5 years old. At least in such a short span of time, they already have Solenad, the man-made lake, ecoliving center, evozone, some existing residential villages plus others that are fast being developed, and of course you can feed the fishes too. And just outside of Nuvali, there are already existing villages and industrial parks that will be able to sustain economic activities there.

You dont believe that businessmen will move south? Well we wont know for sure. But it did happen once upon a time in Makati. And it could happen again. And from the looks of it, as of this moment, it is somewhat already happening. Starbucks is already there right? hehe..

A brief history of Makati here, particularly the CBD. THis used to be an airport, i think you all know by now, right? And mostly swamplands around it. Then in the 1940s they started developing it, with Forbes Park leading the pack. At that time, people didnt believe that Makati could attract Manilans to relocate there. but about a decade later, Makati started attracting some of the more prominent Manila businessmen to set up their residences there, Ayala set up their offices there, San Lorenzo and Bel Air villages were developed, small industries started to trickle in in the late 50s then more commercial establishments followed. and finally it became a financial center in the 70s, or about 30 years after it was conceived.

Rome wasnt built in a day. Makati wasnt either. And definitely Nuvali wont be too.

But then again, i dont think you can compare this area with Nuvali. Nuvali is a huge development. This would be more comparable to San Lazaro. Both of them were once racetracks. Both of them are from the seedier side of town. Yes Nelly, i hope they sell lots or at least townhouses like what they did in San Lazaro. That would be nice. By the way, a lot of people didnt believe too that they would be able to do it in San Lazaro. An exclusive development (Celadon) near Blumentritt? Along the railroad tracks teeming with squatters at the time? But they did it. Celadon was a hot seller. But admittedly with the help of SM though..

Guys, Nuvali is just about 5 years old. At least in such a short span of time, they already have Solenad, the man-made lake, ecoliving center, evozone, some existing residential villages plus others that are fast being developed, and of course you can feed the fishes too. And just outside of Nuvali, there are already existing villages and industrial parks that will be able to sustain economic activities there.

You dont believe that businessmen will move south? Well we wont know for sure. But it did happen once upon a time in Makati. And it could happen again. And from the looks of it, as of this moment, it is somewhat already happening. Starbucks is already there right? hehe..

A brief history of Makati here, particularly the CBD. THis used to be an airport, i think you all know by now, right? And mostly swamplands around it. Then in the 1940s they started developing it, with Forbes Park leading the pack. At that time, people didnt believe that Makati could attract Manilans to relocate there. but about a decade later, Makati started attracting some of the more prominent Manila businessmen to set up their residences there, Ayala set up their offices there, San Lorenzo and Bel Air villages were developed, small industries started to trickle in in the late 50s then more commercial establishments followed. and finally it became a financial center in the 70s, or about 30 years after it was conceived.

Rome wasnt built in a day. Makati wasnt either. And definitely Nuvali wont be too.

But then again, i dont think you can compare this area with Nuvali. Nuvali is a huge development. This would be more comparable to San Lazaro. Both of them were once racetracks. Both of them are from the seedier side of town. Yes Nelly, i hope they sell lots or at least townhouses like what they did in San Lazaro. That would be nice. By the way, a lot of people didnt believe too that they would be able to do it in San Lazaro. An exclusive development (Celadon) near Blumentritt? Along the railroad tracks teeming with squatters at the time? But they did it. Celadon was a hot seller. But admittedly with the help of SM though..

Thanks Derf. I was going to ask about the whole Nuvali thing. I'm not Filipino and I only went there for the first time just under 3 years ago so I'm still learning about certain things. I pick things up fast though. :)

I am still having a hard time seeing how the corporations will move there. There is still BGC and Ortigas to contend with. I figure most corporations are moving to BGC if anywhere.

When I see Nuvali I see a suburbs type area not a business district. It's like paradise. It won't be in 30 years if it turns into Makati though with the traffic, noise, pollution and squatters.

The problem with these kinds of developments are accessibility and road infrastructure. The size of this new project is perfect but then again, i'd say this location is even worse than the Century City property w/c lacks space for road expansion to cover the increase in vehicular volume/traffic. But at least, the latter is still within a good walking distance to the CBD while this Sta. Ana project only has to contend with the very narrow Pasong Tamo and JP Rizal entry and exit points to and fro the CBD and other areas. :ohno::ohno:

But still, this project is something to watch out for.:)

Why is it called makati west? On the map it is the northern part of makati. Hehehe.

^^ Exactly! It's so not west and not even north-west but totally, absolutely, north of Makati.

I'm thinking the name "West" sounds better than north. Something like "West Tower" as compared to north tower, or "The West Wing" that seems to be classier than "The North Wing".

but there are just so many options out there and businessmen wont just single-mindedly move to nuvali. you have cebu, davao, bacolod, iloilo...and you Quezon City CBD, Manila, Pque Bay Area, Alabang...
You have to fill up those places first before you consider nuvali. it will stay like a technopark for a long long long long long long long time. imho.

kaya nga self contained community like rockwell....no need to drive to other places

Or maybe more like a "west" type of living in Makati lol.

Rapid transit system on Ayala in Makati proposed
Business Mirror
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A REAL-ESTATE association partly run by property giant Ayala Land Inc. (ALI) has submitted an unsolicited proposal to the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) for a bus rapid transit system that will operate along Ayala Avenue in Makati City.

Anna Bautista-Dy, ALI vice president of the strategic Landbank Management Group, said the build-operate-transfer proposal submitted by the Makati Commercial Estate Association (Macea), could cost P1 billion. ALI is a “minority” stakeholder of Macea.

“The bus rapid transit system is one of the things we feel can really transform the city. We all know it is important but it needs to be done in a more streamlined manner,” Dy told reporters on Monday. She said Macea is still waiting for a response from the DOTC.

She said Macea will operate the system, which would run “end to end” within the central building district.

The new transit system aims to ease traffic along Ayala Avenue, a main thoroughfare in the country’s financial district.

The Ayala Avenue stretch will be exclusively serviced by the rapid-transit buses. It will be closed to other buses and jeepneys but open to private vehicles.

ALI is also developing the former Santa Ana Racetrack in Makati City into an “entertainment district,” parts of which will be ready for launch by 2012, Dy said.

“We would like more live performances. It will be a more outdoor-oriented development,” Dy said, referring to plans for the 21-hectare property.

She said ALI has not yet decided whether the development will have a gaming component.

what they will do about the buses plying ayala avenue? a new rapid system will not ease but it will add the traffic, they have a plan before of brt but they scrap the project, now they want another for what? to connect their new idle development from ayala cbd? they want the government for? ayala company is evil enough for doing several projects even the expense of poor children and unfortunate people, if they are optimistic for the development, they must do what they want to do as a private entity not using people and government officials especially PNOY and company for their own benefits

It's great that there are developments like these in the other parts of Makati pero sana nagiisip rin sila na palawakin or gumawa ng daan to get access to these areas.

ALI is also developing the former Santa Ana Racetrack in Makati City into an “entertainment district,” parts of which will be ready for launch by 2012, Dy said.

“We would like more live performances. It will be a more outdoor-oriented development,” Dy said, referring to plans for the 21-hectare property.

She said ALI has not yet decided whether the development will have a gaming component.[/QUOTE]

Sweet!!! If ALI is developing it it will turn out great! :)

It's great that there are developments like these in the other parts of Makati pero sana nagiisip rin sila na palawakin or gumawa ng daan to get access to these areas.

True. Right now, i can only think of J.P. Rizal as the primary route going there.

no, it is south avenue is straight from ayala ave, a monorail line was the best choice for connecting sta ana to ayala

Just out of curiousity what is the area surrounding Santa Ana like? Is it nice? Or kind of run down?

Thanks

Just out of curiousity what is the area surrounding Santa Ana like? Is it nice? Or kind of run down?

Thanks

run down

run down

Thanks for the reply. I've never been to that part of Makati. I'm always around Greenbelt. As a foreigner I'm obsessed with Greenbelt actually. Lol

Thanks for the reply. I've never been to that part of Makati. I'm always around Greenbelt. As a foreigner I'm obsessed with Greenbelt actually. Lol

you never know...it might be gentrified....before....it was squatters with farrier's houses.....it was like a vomit of makati

that part of makati, as far as i can recall, has wide roads from jp rizal avenue leading to the sta. ana race track. that place is potential business and entertainment district; its closest neighbors are manila and mandaluyong. the area doesn't get flooded.

that part of makati, as far as i can recall, has wide roads from jp rizal avenue leading to the sta. ana race track. that place is potential business and entertainment district; its closest neighbors are manila and mandaluyong. the area doesn't get flooded.

that's correct..if i may add..the hippodromo st. and fortuna st. from its neighboor barangay olympia has an opportunity for the roads to be widen up..since the wall beside it on the other side is sta. ana racetrack itself..this will be nice for the future endeavors to pass by this area with ease

plus looking at the google map..at the end of south ave. / binakod st. when it reaches the brgy. olympia area the police or barangay outpost can be demolished to pave way to go straight to the future "entertainment district" of Makati..sounds like a nice BRT system for this section of the city where the Makati CBD and Sta. Ana Racetrack a.k.a Entertainment District to be connected to..

Any news on what's going to be built on the colgate palmolive site?

that's correct..if i may add..the hippodromo st. and fortuna st. from its neighboor barangay olympia has an opportunity for the roads to be widen up..since the wall beside it on the other side is sta. ana racetrack itself..this will be nice for the future endeavors to pass by this area with ease

Fortuna St. is not adjacent to the perimeter fence of Sta. Ana Racetrack as there is a row of private lots between Fortuna st. and Sta. Ana Racetrack, all of which have houses built on them, one of which also houses the Brgy. Olympia Hall so there's no opportunity for that road to expand. But Ayala can probably purchase one or two lots so they can build a gate for access to the property from Fortuna st. and maybe build a road parallel to it too inside their property.

sana man lang mag develop sila ng SUPERTALL BUILDING project like sa moscow,shanghai and new york

d/p

^^ your slip is showing makatiprime/r... lol

^^ your slip is showing makatiprime/r... lol

Good catch nez! No wonder the quote (and just like the others) looks all too familiar...hahaha... He's back under a new user name :blahblah:

Good catch. Was he banned from the forum?

ako ba? di niyo kasi alam ang mga pinagsasabi ng mga ayala kong makakakwentuhan nyo sila personally, kong nagkataon na parehas kami ni makatiprimer who cares? iisa lang ba ang isip ng bawat tao? iisa lang ba ang idea ng bawat tao? same as you? pasalamat tayo at marami pala ang nakaka alam sa mga ayala at katulad ni makati primer, diba?

Back to the topic. I am pretty sure the Ayala's would want to maximize the land and build as much as they can. Pero sana nga may horizontal development ala ayala alabang. That would be sweet! Magkano kaya yan if ever?

^^ your slip is showing makatiprime/r... lol

Busted! :lol:

ganyan talaga ang negosyo.

They should develop the street going there first (Pasong Tamo everyone?), buy those run-down cabarets beside it and then start development, don't just build Condos, townships etc. w/o even considering the traffic and the environment of the future residents, tenants, workers first. The same as what is happening to Kalayaan, it's only a one-way road yet the've jampacked the CPI dev. and Picar dev., I mean, what about the traffic? The bottleneck? IMO.

sana man lang mag develop sila ng SUPERTALL BUILDING project like sa moscow,shanghai and new york

Supertall skyscraper? Moscow shanghai and new york? How bout Dubai? You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

sana man lang mag develop sila ng SUPERTALL BUILDING project like sa moscow,shanghai and new york
Eh nililindol lagi ang pinas eh.

^^ may technology na po para magwithstand ng malakas na lindol ang isang mataas na gusali. case in point, Taipei 101. it can stand strong earthquakes and typhoons.

^^ may technology na po para magwithstand ng malakas na lindol ang isang mataas na gusali. case in point, Taipei 101. it can stand strong earthquakes and typhoons.

yup im agree pede naman ...anung ginagawa ng modern technology???


i hope sa 2020 puro modern skyscraper na ang CITY oF MAKATI

CHeck this out:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1364785

^^ may technology na po para magwithstand ng malakas na lindol ang isang mataas na gusali. case in point, Taipei 101. it can stand strong earthquakes and typhoons.

^^
it's just a matter of how cheap the developers are. Taipei 101 was financed by forward seeing tycoons who spent alot of money to build a supertall that is as what you've said, able to stand eartquakes wind and stuff... However, as you can look around, most developers here in the country value their profit margin more than safety, design, even height. That's why painted concrete is the norm and panelling and glass curtain walls are the exceptions. :)

Any news?

This beast seen digging inside the premises. Taken 28 Feb 2012

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road grading?

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Posted on March 13, 2012 10:02:20 PM


ALI to start work on Sta. Ana racetrack in Q3


AYALA LAND, Inc. (ALI) plans to begin construction on an entertainment complex at the site of Sta. Ana racetrack in Makati City by the third quarter in a bid to complete work by 2013, an official said last week.

“We are on track for the Sta. Ana project and we will start on it this year, hopefully by the third quarter. It’s a mixed-use development, but we are positioning it to be a new entertainment district for Makati,” Anna Bautista-Dy, vice-president for strategic land bank management, told BusinessWorld in a chance interview.

Ayala Land had previously inked a joint-venture agreement with horse racing operator Philippine Racing Club, Inc. last year to develop the latter’s 21-hectare property.

The Sta. Ana Racetrack was once used for horse racing events beginning in the 1930s until 2009, when the Philippine Racing Club transferred to a new 65-hectare racecourse in Naic, Cavite, according to the Philippine Racing Club’s Web site.

While declining to divulge details, Ms. Bautista-Dy said that the Sta. Ana project will be slightly more upscale than Ayala Land’s current Bonifacio High Street retail development in Taguig City.

“It will be like a cultural district... It will really be focused on entertainment,” Ms. Bautista-Dy said, noting that target tenants include those involved in music and the performing arts.

Ayala Land has allotted a record P37 billion in capital expenditures this year to fund new projects, as well as for the acquisition of new properties.

The company hiked its net income for 2011 to a record P7.14 billion versus P5.46 billion it generated in 2010.

Ayala Land shares fell by 1.67% to P20.65 yesterday from P21.00 at its previous close. -- Franz Jonathan G. de la Fuente

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So it will be an entertainment complex and more upscale than BHS.

Great , another BHS type development ! :cheers:

BusinessWorld
Corporate News

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Posted on March 13, 2012 10:02:20 PM


ALI to start work on Sta. Ana racetrack in Q3


AYALA LAND, Inc. (ALI) plans to begin construction on an entertainment complex at the site of Sta. Ana racetrack in Makati City by the third quarter in a bid to complete work by 2013, an official said last week.

“We are on track for the Sta. Ana project and we will start on it this year, hopefully by the third quarter. It’s a mixed-use development, but we are positioning it to be a new entertainment district for Makati,” Anna Bautista-Dy, vice-president for strategic land bank management, told BusinessWorld in a chance interview.

Ayala Land had previously inked a joint-venture agreement with horse racing operator Philippine Racing Club, Inc. last year to develop the latter’s 21-hectare property.

The Sta. Ana Racetrack was once used for horse racing events beginning in the 1930s until 2009, when the Philippine Racing Club transferred to a new 65-hectare racecourse in Naic, Cavite, according to the Philippine Racing Club’s Web site.

While declining to divulge details, Ms. Bautista-Dy said that the Sta. Ana project will be slightly more upscale than Ayala Land’s current Bonifacio High Street retail development in Taguig City.

“It will be like a cultural district... It will really be focused on entertainment,” Ms. Bautista-Dy said, noting that target tenants include those involved in music and the performing arts.

dapat daily may banda,sayawan at biritan sa kantahan, BASAKA baga, yung sa kanila SUMAKA ba yun?

dapat daily may banda,sayawan at biritan sa kantahan, BASAKA baga, yung sa kanila SUMAKA ba yun?

Plus rides, theaters, opera house, casinos by Pagcor, etc.

will Ayala open their own version of SM Arena??

dapat daily may banda,sayawan at biritan sa kantahan, BASAKA baga, yung sa kanila SUMAKA ba yun?
Actually, around May in time for Flores De Mayo, sinasara yang JP Rizal ng mga baranggays para magfiesta. Meron stage for gay shows, tapos me pa-basketbol sa kalye saka rakrakan.

I hope Ayala will also build a theme park and stadium/arena in this entertainment complex.

will Ayala open their own version of SM Arena??

An Arena by Ayala sounds nice. Para we have one up north (Araneta), One down south (MOA arena) and something from Ayala in the middle :D

latest???