Downtowns and Urban Centers [Archive] - Page 2

WawaY[625]

February 6th, 2009, 06:28 AM

pa butt in lang ha, i think the issue started nung may pinost na picture na mukhang ang finocus eh yung spaghetti wires, so someone commented na bat parang ang finocus eh ang spaghetti wires. But astersiky already cleared na ang Mt. Apo na signage ang kinunan nya. Personally it appears na yung spaghetti wires nga ang subject ng photos but if asterisky says na mt. apo nga then so be it :)

the point lang naman siguro ng iba is, di namin tinatago ang kapangitan ng davao, if you look sa davao threads, we show pics of the not so nice side of davao naman.The thing lang is, while its ok na mapakita ang ugly pic ng isang city kahit pa bisita lang sya ng isang lugar, It is,(personally) in bad taste if yung purpose ng poster, esp if bista, eh to show the ugliness ng lugar na binisita nya (esp in SSC where mataas ang regionalistic pride ng mga tao)

Its just me ha, but I wouldnt dare go to Cebu then kumuha ng pics ng streets na may basura (with focus sa basura). If my intention was to post a street scene tapos di maiwasang nasali ang basura then I think ok lang yan, but as a visitor, if kumuha ako ng pic ng street scene na ang intention is to focus on the garbage sa streets eh parang kabastusan naman yun lalo na kung sa thread na tulad nito ko pinost.

oi, example lang yan ha, im not saying maraming basura nakakalat sa cebu ;)

I would like to say na di naman kami nagrereact sa pagkakuha ng spaghetti wires pic mismo but on the intention behind the posting ng pic, but since asterkisky said na ang mt. apo na signage ang focus nya and not the spag wires, then i guess wala tayong problem..sabagay kung spag wires ang gusto nya i focus he should have gone to claveria or san pedro, mas daghan didto hehe

bonixx

February 6th, 2009, 06:37 AM

^^ ahhh seryoso na ang Davaoeños, bihirang magseryoso yang si Waway! ahehehe joke lang...

PINOYmeat

February 6th, 2009, 07:14 AM

;31870850']pa butt in lang ha, i think the issue started nung may pinost na picture na mukhang ang finocus eh yung spaghetti wires...

oh youre back? welcome back! tagal din nun ah.

a_terisk78y™

February 6th, 2009, 07:18 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/3256806595_d45ef54d4c.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/3257634362_dfe5f146ab.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/3256805421_459b2a0d60.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3257635220_50ea9e82b2.jpg?v=0

WawaY[625]

February 6th, 2009, 07:19 AM

oh youre back? welcome back! tagal din nun ah.

you missed me huh? ;)

Wadaboy

February 6th, 2009, 07:41 AM

Also a_terisk78y™ is not the type of person who bashes Davao anyway so I'm sure that the posting of the spag pics has no bad intention..... ok na ba?

davaob4now

February 6th, 2009, 08:17 AM

Pardon me, for the sake of what? This is not "Good Shots in Good angle of Downtowns" thread, isn't it? :) IMO You are over reacting from a very innocent photo being posted by another SSC member without any intention to do harm. Asking another SSCer to look for a good angle is uncalled-for. :okay:

yeah you read it right...im sorry, but for you its not the really delineated to do harm, but for some its perniciuos...

for a person who is not living in davao and took a photo such the spaghetti thing, its injurious...

nah, i was just telling the forumer that it couldve have been a "nice/r" (?) photo if the saghhtetti wires were not included in it..

and yes, this is not a "good shots" thread, bbut it doesnt mean, you have to post ugly pictures in here...:okay:
what i was just trying to allege, is that its not harmful for others but for some it is...
davaoenos really apprehend every visitor in the city, specially when they dole allegories about their trip through photos, but seeing such photo, would mean bad for some...

but as what youve said, its an innocous act...well, thats acceptable.:)
maybe it would be great, that in the future, it wont be repeated as others might misconceive the true "message" of the photo as what the forumer is trying to imply...

:):):) cheers...peace.

@Pinoymeat, yes a lot of balat sibuyas here, i hope dika din ganyan...:):nuts:

dinabaw

February 6th, 2009, 08:21 AM

well i've seen alot of photos being photoshops eliminating spag wires di ko na lang sasabihin ang city na yun!hehe

federalist

February 6th, 2009, 08:33 AM

let me join the discussion.

dont hide whats the negative side of your city/cities. you know what, there were also a lot of visitors in Cebu made a lot of negative comments but we accept it without hard feelings. there's nothing to be ashamed for our beloved cities.

ive noticed here, that all forumers want everyone to just praise their cities, but hope we dont forget that this is a forum. everyone has their say. be it negative or positive.

SuperGrass78

February 6th, 2009, 08:44 AM

mahirap din kumuha nang street scenes sa cities nang pilipinas na walang palabok wires (hehehe! para mas local pakinggan)....alangan naman na maghahanap ka pa nang streets na walang wires kung bumisita ka sa isang lugar, it takes time mauubos lang panahon mo sa paghahanap kasi bihira lang, i think ang mayron lang na lugar na walang wires is some modern developments nang metro manila...pero sa provincial cities halos lahat mayroong wire....hehehe! i-logical naman siguro kung if you are a tourist sa isang lugar na pagtuonan mo talaga nang pansin ang wires lalo na sa lugar natin na common yun, minsan hindi mo nga mapapansin yun, depende nalang sa mga taong super conscious...hehehehe! grabeee na! super praning na mga tao dito sa SSC...hahahahaha! kahit wires binibig deal...hahay.......yan siguro ang resulta pag mawalan nang thread...hahahaha!:nuts:

rustyboi

February 6th, 2009, 08:49 AM

rustyboi

February 6th, 2009, 09:02 AM

and yes, this is not a "good shots" thread, bbut it doesnt mean, you have to post ugly pictures in here...:okay:

Those images posted are not ugly pictures, those are Davao pictures. :) We should just be open-minded and mature even if others can't. You do not want people tagging you as paranoid, don't you? Relax lang kayo, wala kayong kalaban dito. :cool:

Let's get back to topic before Kiretoce slap our butts. :lol::nocrook::runaway:

davaob4now

February 6th, 2009, 09:11 AM

Those images posted are not ugly pictures, those are Davao pictures. :) We should just be open-minded and mature even if others can't. You do not want people tagging you as paranoid, don't you? Relax lang kayo, wala kayong kalaban dito. :cool:

Let's get back to topic before Kiretoce slap our butts. :lol::nocrook::runaway:

oh im sorry, at na plural ko...dapat yung last picture lang na may spaghetti...

to tell you, its not being paranoid if youre just expressing a certain thing that needs to be expressed...after all, this is a forum...
and i wont be bothered if you will call me any names (paranoid), or adj...etc...blah blah...hehe...im not sensitive to that...
and yes, im being open-minded, i opened my mind and bulaga! im opposed to it...:D

walang kalaban dito, walang away dito, this is just a healthy interaction/conversation/discussion...
i was just opposing to some of the things in here which i think i cant agree with...

cheers and ciao...

hello Kiretoce...:D

KING CITY

February 6th, 2009, 09:20 AM

PINOYmeat

February 6th, 2009, 09:20 AM

@Pinoymeat, yes a lot of balat sibuyas here, i hope dika din ganyan...:):nuts:

of course not! sus ako pa?! it just so happens na madali lang talagang makita ang pagka balat sibuyas ng ibang tao dito, OA sa pagka oversensitive, parang galing sa trauma..... borderline immaturity na nga yung iba eh.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 6th, 2009, 09:25 AM

^^
Wo! galing ni pinoymeat! talagang R.N! :cool:

bakasaurus

February 6th, 2009, 09:25 AM

This is funny since I didn't even notice the spaghetti wires until it became an issue. When I looked at the pic I saw the street and the signs and tried to recall what the ambiance of the place was (yeah I even try to remember the scents since I don't want to ride in a closed airconditioned vehicle when travelling to new places) when I last visited Davao.
Perhaps, I was too desensitized because of constant exposure to spaghetti wires.Haha. It's the same thing everywhere in the Philippines. So no big deal. Peace brothers!

And I really like Davao by the way, especially the outskirts.

PINOYmeat

February 6th, 2009, 09:26 AM

.......yan siguro ang resulta pag mawalan nang thread...hahahaha!:nuts:

^^ well this one is below the butt na... aw belt pala, di na tama yan.

PINOYmeat

February 6th, 2009, 09:27 AM

;31871872']you missed me huh? ;)

miss you? actually.... NO! i feel guilty nga eh :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 6th, 2009, 09:27 AM

guys okay lang yang mga spaghetti wires na yan! wag nyo ng gawing issue kasi HAHABA lang ang walang kwentang usapang ito! :lol::okay::cool:

PINOYmeat

February 6th, 2009, 09:31 AM

^^
Wo! galing ni pinoymeat! talagang R.N! :cool:

^^ di po ako R.N. im an RPh po....

WawaY[625]

February 6th, 2009, 09:43 AM

Sus kung naa ra mi ginatago, tan-awa ra gud ning mga previous posts, bati man gani ug daghan wires ang mga naka post

MORE DOWNTOWN DAVAO PICS from Junax

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/naxju/apix01.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/naxju/apix02.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/naxju/apix03.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/naxju/apix08.jpg

pero kamo daw beh,makahuna huna man jud mog lain if you see this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3524/3252666552_aeef362005.jpg?v=0

^^
na-center man gud ang wires tapos upward ang pagkuha :D

pero since wala may history si Asterisky of pagka contrabido sa amoa then I believe him sa iyang gi sulti nga Mt. Apo signage ang iyang subject :yes:

WawaY[625]

February 6th, 2009, 09:50 AM

guys okay lang yang mga spaghetti wires na yan! wag nyo ng gawing issue kasi HAHABA lang ang walang kwentang usapang ito! :lol::okay::cool:

i think how the others have ganged up on the issue nga kesyo naa kunoy ginatago and nga paranoid daw have as much contribution sa pagka dako sa issue as the davao guys who raised the spaghetti wire issue :yes:
Murag gi lahi man gud nila ang storya nga kunohay naa mi ginatago nga gamay nga comment ra man unta to nagsugod

Sus oi, wala pa ta naanad aning "uban" :lol:

kindofperfect82888

February 6th, 2009, 09:52 AM

what does "OA" mean again?...

back to topic people...
theres this saying that arguing in the internet is like the special olympics... regardless
of who will win, your still retards...

no offense meant....

rustyboi

February 6th, 2009, 10:00 AM

can you all cut that crap?! if i were a mod even just for a day, i'll hide this thread. :lol:

Sleepwalker

February 6th, 2009, 10:32 AM

This forum really keeps the moderators healthy...Not to mention, a healthy discussion :)

Kung magagalit sila, tataas ang consumption nang calorie, so meaning, maraming calorie ang mawawala.

Pag nag-cleanup naman nang mga posts sa thead, exercise yan sa katawan, dahil sa effort na mai-exert.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Peace moderators :nocrook:

carl_vilches21

February 6th, 2009, 10:58 AM

can you all cut that crap?! if i were a mod even just for a day, i'll hide this thread. :lol:

...Kinanta mo na ata yan...
..."If I were a Mod"...:D

WawaY[625]

February 6th, 2009, 11:02 AM

^^ LOL...

hala ka oi...
shut up na lang ta...
batok ani nga issue..
tutal ang pinaka gisugdan...
nahusay na man...
ug ang nagpabilin..
nga lalis kay murag...
wala na man kaayo..
relasyon..
sa unang...
topic...

PS..

palihug beh, bawasan nato ang pagpaka ipokrito

calbayognon

February 6th, 2009, 11:57 AM

As a forummer coming from neither Davao nor Cebu, honestly the picture shows lots of wires, but it doesn't mean that Cebu is not guilty of that also. Even our small city. It only shows how poor urban planning is in our country. End of discussion.

bakasaurus

February 6th, 2009, 01:20 PM

PLease, friends, let us not make this thread murkier. If you guys want to continue exchanging tirades, we don't wanna know about it. You can do yourselves a favor by communicating by PM or YM.

C'mon guys, you are smart and educated people. You know better.

dongRoy

February 6th, 2009, 02:40 PM

^^ may bagong units po both Bachelor and Shuttle Bus.. that yellow bus sa pix (Bachelor po yan) parang nasa airplane ang loob.. pero mas maganda ang new shuttle bus (exterior design)
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:rj9KECgUFZrYoM:http://www.davaometroshuttle.com/images/front3_08.jpg

Yeah, I know. We called it King Long because, I think, it's the brand name of those units. Executive class nga ang accommodation ng bus na 'yan. The fare is a wee bit higher than the usual Bachelor tours aircon buses though. Like, for the older aircon buses, if for instance travelling from D.C. and would get off at Nabunturan, you'd be paying a different rate if when you'd get off at Monkayo. That's complying with the per kilometer basis fare rates. But with this King Long units, you'd pay similar rates regardless if you'd get off at Nabunturan or Monkayo. But the riding comfort you get is definitely worth it.

A funny thing always happens to me about this riding King Long business. Since I always insist on riding King Long, I'd be waiting at the terminals for quite a long time. Sometimes, I get tired of waiting that I'd decide to get the next bus that comes. So on several occasions, I'd be taking the Metro Shuttle as it has the most number of units running in the area. Not one minute after I take my seat, a King Long arrives. :lol:

My apologies for the OT. This is supposed to be a downtown thread. But to the readers who would like to explore the true beauty of the Philippine landscape, visit these places. And for an ultimate riding pleasure, take the King Long buses. :nuts: Sabay promotion pa, ano?

habagatcentral1

February 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM

Now this is frustrating IMO.

As the one who started this thread, I intentionaly created this thread NOT FOR BASHING but FOR SHOWCASING of what have yous in your downtown areas...MAY IT BE PLEASING TO THE EYE or NOT.

I felt discouraged by the way people act here...I'll post the downtown pictures here BOTH EVIL AND BENIGN faces of it...because beyond the forum, people would eventually see the real thing when they get there.

Just my 2cents worth.

dinabaw

February 6th, 2009, 03:43 PM

well enough of this crap! as far as kirotice is concern theres no distinction between the starter and the ones involved even fence sitters so lets stop this non-sense before it's too late.

dongRoy

February 6th, 2009, 04:04 PM

LordCarnal

February 6th, 2009, 04:09 PM

Actually they do are unsightly but not sayang. It will be "sayang" if these edificed disappeared without any effort in preseravation.

Right now, the local heritage council is upon near completion of the guidelines of the signboards. Thats already one step towards heritage conservation and sustainability.

Since 2003, this section has been undergoing feasibility studies and projects. Again, heritage conservation here in the Philippines is painstakingly tedious. You cannot just convert Calle Real or Calle Colon in Cebu to become Melaka or Calle Crisologo overnight. This is still the downtown of Iloilo City and taking away businesses that are thriving there is not an easy task...because for a cityscape to be effective, it has supposed to have a business including in it. The school of adaptive reuse.

Regulations would be implemented. Its a good thing though that this area has been declared as heritage site by the local city government and they are pushing it for national recognition from NHI/NCCA.

So I say, "sayang" is not an appropriate word...because it has never been too late to save and preserve these evidences as efforts are on its way. ;)

This is like a conflict to me. I've been thinking that those establishments including the sidewalk traders/vendors should not be driven away because they are already part of the story of that place, hehehe.

But then again I've also been thinking that they should go away to make the place look clean.

Now which is which?

:dunno:

dinabaw

February 6th, 2009, 04:11 PM

@dongroy kanang mga bldg. sa colon naa pay nahibilin ana?tagalugon daw hehe...yang mga bldgs ng colon may natitira pa nyan?

I guess the tall one on the left side is now a museum ? yan ba yun?

LordCarnal

February 6th, 2009, 04:22 PM

tamad ako mag post ng maraming pics, hehe.

eto share ko, 1950s aerial photos of the old downtown of Cebu

http://cebuheritage.com/2008/11/14/1950s-aerial-shots-of-cebu-city/

...

dongRoy

February 6th, 2009, 04:28 PM

@dongroy kanang mga bldg. sa colon naa pay nahibilin ana?tagalugon daw hehe...yang mga bldgs ng colon may natitira pa nyan?

I guess the tall one on the left side is now a museum ? yan ba yun?

From the looks of it bai parang wala na. Although if you'd be standing in Colon St. today, you'd still be seeing at least one or two rooftops similar to that you see in the old photos. But those array of houses in the photo no longer exist today.

I can't really tell if that's a museum bai. Not that I know of. I don't think there's a museum standing in Colon St. today. Kasi the museums I know that we have now are located somewhere else in the downtown area but not along Colon St.

But looking at the photo, if you are referring to the structure on the first frame that has a pointed rooftop, the architecture of the building does have a resemblance to the Cathedral Museum today. But, no. That's not it.

dinabaw

February 6th, 2009, 04:32 PM

habagatcentral1

February 6th, 2009, 05:00 PM

This is like a conflict to me. I've been thinking that those establishments including the sidewalk traders/vendors should not be driven away because they are already part of the story of that place, hehehe.

But then again I've also been thinking that they should go away to make the place look clean.

Now which is which?

:dunno:
As what they say, there is a place for everything in this world for order. :D

Anyway, I think we cannot just do away with sidewalk vendors per se in our downtowns, especially ours. What we can do is to regulate them or even make profit out of them.

This is one way that can keep the downtown alive...is to foster these small time traders or vendors in a proper place with proper infrastructure.

But then again, its all in the implementation or enforcement.

kiretoce

February 6th, 2009, 08:12 PM

well enough of this crap! as far as kiretoce is concern theres no distinction between the starter and the ones involved even fence sitters so lets stop this non-sense before it's too late.

Correct! As evidence of that, I now have brigged/banned three people. So you guys better be on your best behavior from this point on, or else you'll get what's coming to you. I've also cleaned up the thread as well from all the OT and put-down/insulting posts.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 7th, 2009, 02:17 AM

^^ di po ako R.N. im an RPh po....

hahaha... i thought you are a RN! :lol::lol: what's RPh BTW?

MatudNilaBaby

February 7th, 2009, 02:20 AM

hahaha... i thought you are a RN! :lol::lol: what's RPh BTW?

i think he is a registered pharmacist

bacolodchamp

February 7th, 2009, 03:05 AM

photo credits: @LordCarnal

Then...
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH176.jpg
...Now
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/WordPress/downtown_buildings/prince_warehouse01.jpg

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH014.jpg
^^Second Building from the right... Then...
...Now
http://cebuheritage.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/02prudentialbank.jpg

Colon St., Municipality of Cebu
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH162.jpg
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH163.jpg

would be a heritage site a la vigan had they preserved those houses along colon st. its like a mixture of oriental and old west look. i presume this is the oldest street or shall i say oldest known street in the country. tama ba ako?

habagatcentral1

February 7th, 2009, 03:34 AM

^^ Right. :okay:
Unfortunately, the major damage was because of WW2 (as usual)...

And to think of it, most pre-war heritage structures weren't destroyed by the Japanese invasion but the American "Liberation" forces in an effort to corner out the remaining Imperial Army in any city...most of them were destroyed in 1945.

bacolodchamp

February 7th, 2009, 03:42 AM

^^that's the most unfortunate part. i've heard the ruins in talisay were burned down not by the the japs but by the americans as well.

Henz

February 7th, 2009, 06:24 AM

if it had been preserved, Colon St., would have been a heritage area, although it still enjoys being one, since it is the country's oldest street or oldest known street for that matter.

habagatcentral1

February 7th, 2009, 06:28 AM

^^ They say if the Americans were'nt involved in the European theatre of WW2..then maybe they have at least sufficient amount of money for restoration of some buildings.

freightrunner

February 7th, 2009, 06:50 AM

if it had been preserved, Colon St., would have been a heritage area, although it still enjoys being one, since it is the country's oldest street or oldest known street for that matter.

I am inclined to believe that there probably were streets in the country before Colon already but Colon was the first to be named officially. There were trails that connected the barangays then and I'm sure these trails were like streets as they bisect each community centers.:)

Wadaboy

February 9th, 2009, 02:54 PM

http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH163.jpg

^^ When was this taken? Colon street in Cebu is really old, amazing. Is it older than any other streets in country?

dongRoy

February 9th, 2009, 03:39 PM

^^that was taken in 1910. It's the oldest in the country, actually...

this was in the 1900s
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH312.jpg

and this in the 1930s
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH035.jpg
that building on the left side with a signage blocked by the policeman post that says VISION, is a movie house that still stands today.

Magallenes St. in 1935
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH450.jpg
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH169.jpg

chuck23

February 9th, 2009, 05:14 PM

^^ That looks really old..

bOrN2BwILd

February 10th, 2009, 04:03 AM

^^very very old:lol:

kiretoce

February 10th, 2009, 04:07 AM

^^ Older than anyone of us can remember! :lol:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 10th, 2009, 09:14 AM

but IMO, business at this point is booming in old cebu! :okay:

rustyboi

February 10th, 2009, 10:28 AM

^^that was taken in 1910. It's the oldest in the country, actually...

this was in the 1900s
http://sea.lib.niu.edu/img/SCL-PH312.jpg

wow! how were the other cities doing in 1900s when old Cebu was this bustling? :dunno:

habagatcentral1

February 10th, 2009, 12:03 PM

kiretoce

February 10th, 2009, 12:09 PM

If I've seen rivalry of Cebu and Davao here...back then, its between those two....Queens. :nocrook:

Why did the image of two drag queens fighting came to my mind when I read that? :nuts: ( :lol: )

habagatcentral1

February 10th, 2009, 12:13 PM

Why did the image of two drag queens fighting came to my mind when I read that? :nuts: ( :lol: )

Oh my...grabeng graphic description naman yan! :D

kiretoce

February 10th, 2009, 12:16 PM

^^ Want more detailed imagery? I imagined Waway (representing Davao) and Zuburbia (representing Cebu) in drag, wearing heels and evening gowns, slugging it out. :lol:

freightrunner

February 10th, 2009, 12:17 PM

wow! how were the other cities doing in 1900s when old Cebu was this bustling? :dunno:

Are you only referring to provincial cities? I mean what about Manila?:nuts:

habagatcentral1

February 10th, 2009, 12:26 PM

Sometime in the 1920's
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/50/600x600/28/2632499911-8bdf026bc7-o.jpg?et=ZG3Pe8ymIW6B7yJX4SH3Pg&nmid=41576748

Sometime almost 3 weeks ago...
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/2/photos/329/600x600/18/FootProcession018.jpg?et=YVtI%2CgRmzwN3j6inkrlaOQ&nmid=192537087

Cine Regent of Iloilo City (then Cine Palace)

SleMarKen

February 10th, 2009, 12:29 PM

^^high tech na ang new pic dahil sponsored by SMART...hehe

habagatcentral1

February 10th, 2009, 12:32 PM

^^ Hay...that's what I hate about commercialisation! They don't know aesthetics! Those heritage buildings could've been a good backdrop...anyway, c'est la vie. :D

rustyboi

February 10th, 2009, 01:23 PM

^^ Same as yours...especially you know where...:lol: :nocrook: and especially during those times...If I've seen rivalry of Cebu and Davao here...back then, its between those two....Queens. :nocrook:
The only thing was its rare to find pre-1920's pictures of Iloilo nowadays since most of it are of private ownership..especially of those landed hacenderos...hay lisod maghulam sa ila!

i thought you're gonna say it ended up in the national archives! :lol: but yes, i haven't come across yet with Iloilo's old photos especially in early 1900's. :okay:

there was really no rivalry with Cebu and Davao going on. it was Zuburbia vs. Davao! :nocrook::lol:

habagatcentral1

February 10th, 2009, 01:34 PM

^^ Nakuw! If Archives yan...matagal na sana ako humingi ng kopya, hehe! :lol:

Anyway, most of the photos are of 1900 to 1930's.

Here's a photo somewhere in Calle Real (Downtown Iloilo) in 1898, the time when the Spanish Colonial Administration finally surrendered after their fall on Manila that August.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/14/photos/50/600x600/7/Museo00007.jpg?et=bcpoVA2VjigxjjOI5wjAGA&nmid=41576748

carl_vilches21

February 10th, 2009, 02:32 PM

^^
...Buti na conserve yung mga photos na iyan...

Zuburbia

February 10th, 2009, 04:24 PM

i thought you're gonna say it ended up in the national archives! :lol: but yes, i haven't come across yet with Iloilo's old photos especially in early 1900's. :okay:

there was really no rivalry with Cebu and Davao going on. it was Zuburbia vs. Davao! :nocrook::lol:

hoi i refrain from it already..remember when i was supergrass or cebuski, i didnt even say a thing about davao...it was just the time when CDO and davao throwing shit with each other...hehe! hindi nga ako pumunta sa thread nila kung hindi nila dinala yung post ko sa CDO sa davao thread..hehehe! i dont know why they put cebu into this, i did not even envolve cebu with davao during that time..and the thing is im not even from cebu..im from my humble town of compostela valley...oki...:)

habagatcentral1

February 10th, 2009, 04:29 PM

^^
...Buti na conserve yung mga photos na iyan...
Unfortunately, most of those "Bahay na Bato" houses were burned a few weeks later because of the Fil-Am War...Revolucionarios (which some scholars believed it was the Tagalog regiment who planned it) burned the city so that it wouldn't be used as a base of the Yankees.

Yes they've burned down the whole city (downtown area) that is why, there are only a few Spanish colonial houses left in Iloilo as compared to Cebu's.

Most of the heritage establishments in Iloilo are American colonial with some excemptions to Roman Catholic Churches as the most obvious Spanish colonial heritage structure.

kiretoce

February 11th, 2009, 06:07 AM

hoi i refrain from it already..remember when i was supergrass or cebuski, i didnt even say a thing about davao...it was just the time when CDO and davao throwing shit with each other...hehe! hindi nga ako pumunta sa thread nila kung hindi nila dinala yung post ko sa CDO sa davao thread..hehehe! i dont know why they put cebu into this, i did not even envolve cebu with davao during that time..and the thing is im not even from cebu..im from my humble town of compostela valley...oki...:)

Yeah, that phase is over. We've moved on. ;)

bacolodchamp

February 11th, 2009, 06:22 AM

wow! how were the other cities doing in 1900s when old Cebu was this bustling? :dunno:

this is bacolod city in the 1900's. just to give you a glimpse of other provincial cities during that era.

Photos Courtesy of Jose B. Lopez, Jr.
http://www.bacolodcity.gov.ph/jpg11a.jpg
Plaza (square) at Bacolod, during bicycle races given in honor of the Philippine Commission. March 16, 1903

Nicest park in all Occidental Negros... the Bacolod Plaza, April 1, 1929.
http://www.bacolodcity.gov.ph/photo_8.jpg

rustyboi

February 11th, 2009, 07:55 AM

^^thanks! :D

fast-forward....

Colon 2000

by lowlight168 of flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2623175495_4861a4cf28.jpg?v=0

by lowlight168 of flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2623177931_95525c1f90.jpg?v=0

ferny123

February 11th, 2009, 01:42 PM

^^
...Buti na conserve yung mga photos na iyan...

sana pati mga structures na preserve din hehe

carl_vilches21

February 11th, 2009, 01:47 PM

^^
...Mahirap ata yan...

...Katapos umusbong ang ikalawang digmaang pandaigdig parang naging ghost town na ang Pinas...

Henz

February 12th, 2009, 06:30 AM

I am inclined to believe that there probably were streets in the country before Colon already but Colon was the first to be named officially. There were trails that connected the barangays then and I'm sure these trails were like streets as they bisect each community centers.:)

well.. Cebu City is the oldest City in the country.. this is the place where the Spaniards first settle.. so as the historians.. Colon St, is probably the oldest street ever recognized seguro..but then.. naa na ba streets during those times na wala pa ang Spanish.. This is for the historians to dwell..

Wadaboy

February 12th, 2009, 09:12 AM

DAVAO CITY

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/naxju/apix22.jpg

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photos by Junax

dinabaw

February 12th, 2009, 09:17 AM

Henz

February 12th, 2009, 09:33 AM

The moors already settled in Mindanao century ago before the Spaniards came.well if we base street for horse-drawn/animal-drawn i guess the streets of Zambo or Cotobato could qualify as the oldest street.

street here may refer to the place transport vehicles or carriages could pass which is being patterned after the European standards during those time.. thats why Colon St., was referred as the oldest street..

so i guess when historians recognized Colon St., as the oldest street in the country, it may have the standards and qualifications which is the basis for the determination.

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 12th, 2009, 12:08 PM

^^

right! you know Europeans. They are always right! :ohno::lol::lol:

freightrunner

February 12th, 2009, 04:36 PM

The moors already settled in Mindanao century ago (maybe more) and established kingdoms before the Spaniards came.well if we base street for horse-drawn/animal-drawn i guess the streets of Zambo, Cotabato or even unknown cities in Mindanao could qualify as the oldest street.

Exactly. If we define street to it's most simplest meaning as an easement for land traffic within a population center then there were already streets before the Spaniards arrived. And although there were no cities back then the barangays and other small kingdoms were populations centers and I'm sure they had some form of easements for people and animal travel within. Of course we still recognize Calle Colon as the first modern street in its modern meaning.:)

federalist

February 12th, 2009, 06:55 PM

even before the Spaniards came, there was already a progressive market in Cebu like the China-Cebu trade and Middle East-Cebu trade, etc.

naming Cebu's Colon St. as the oldest in the country was validated by many historians.

you can name your city's streets as the oldest but we know that officially, Colon St. is the oldest in the country.

WawaY[625]

February 13th, 2009, 03:20 AM

well.. Cebu City is the oldest City in the country.. this is the place where the Spaniards first settle.. so as the historians.. Colon St, is probably the oldest street ever recognized seguro..but then.. naa na ba streets during those times na wala pa ang Spanish.. This is for the historians to dwell..

The moors already settled in Mindanao century ago (maybe more) and established kingdoms before the Spaniards came.well if we base street for horse-drawn/animal-drawn i guess the streets of Zambo, Cotabato or even unknown cities in Mindanao could qualify as the oldest street.

If i were in a game show and I was asked if ano ang oldest street sa pilipinas, Colon din isasagot ko. I think I heard it somewhere, sa TV ata hehe, maybe kasi yung ibang streets before eh walang pangalan? or maybe those roads were wiped out/replaced na (rerouted or removed altogether nung mag start ng urban planning) kaya Colon street is the oldest street sa Pilipinas

Kumbaga colon is the oldest street na hanggan ngayon eh andyan pa rin? dunno just speculations though hehe wala naman akong alam sa history

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 13th, 2009, 03:28 AM

^^

kasi mga historians sa pinas maraming kinuha sa mga isinulat ng mga kastila and the spaniards were the ones who built calle colon kaya for them they considered it the first street in the Philippines. We might not know from other areas were natives have built their own roads too without the spaniards knowing it. :okay:

habagatcentral1

February 13th, 2009, 03:37 AM

dinabaw

February 13th, 2009, 03:58 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 13th, 2009, 04:02 AM

^^ Which brings me to this question...why name a street outside the premises of Villa San Miguel or Ciudad Santisimo Nombre de Jesus? Colon does not pass old Cebu which is located within the vicinity of Fuerza San Pedro and its outside the Spanish city and instead pass by the outskirts bridging the indio settlement of San Nicolas and Parian.

^^

that i have no idea but pwede rin ginawa ito because of Parian. Its where most affluent chinese traders lived north of where Legazpi established his settlement (ciudad) and after some time Parian became a district of mestizo-sangleyes. Fort San Pedro is such a small fort to have a street inside. It could have been built to connect other cebu districts at those times to ease transportation in the area of ciudad, San Nicolas and arrabales (suburbs) as the Ermita-Lutao area.:)

habagatcentral1

February 13th, 2009, 04:03 AM

^^ Could it be possible back then that Colon was the Jones Avenue of the Spanish Era?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

February 13th, 2009, 04:06 AM

^^

pwede rin. Jones IMO, was built by the Americans kaya Jones Ave. hehehe :)

Henz

February 13th, 2009, 04:51 AM

i just answered @Henz question ....

"but then.. naa na ba streets during those times na wala pa ang Spanish.. This is for the historians to dwell.."

I recognized our history but our history book have so many loopholes particularly the history of Mindanao which is not fully represented.
Now we all know Muslims in Mindanao dressed in silk sarongs, wore fine jewelries,lived in palatial houses, worshipped in magnificent mosques and traded with Indons, Malays and Chinese traders as majority of Flipinos still wearing "bahags" it boggles my mind if a highly civilized people have no access to these places.

now i'm not disputing what's the oldest street i'm just answering @Henz question.

actually for me.. its a valid hypothesis naman...there might have been roads built before Spaniards came especially in trading areas like Zamboanga and Cotabato . Cebu which had long been a trading center even before the Spaniards came also shares with it.

However, as far as my knowledge, Colon St's claim of being the oldest in the country has not been refuted yet. Unlike historical claims such as the First Mass which was refuted by Butuan and also there is even a refute of who really killed Magellan, is it really Lapu-Lapu or one of his men.

For any interested people or institution to make adverse claims is welcome naman as long as valid proof maybe brought for a healthy and intellectual discussion on the matter.

I believe, it is now high time to correct mistakes made in our History Books, if there is any.

frustratedarchitect

February 13th, 2009, 06:33 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/2976275725_e0358db6dc.jpg?v=0

isagani

February 13th, 2009, 06:49 AM

About Colon Street:
Maybe it's the oldest recorded paved street in the country. Of course, many dirt roads and unpaved streets existed before in settlements across the country and some pre-colonial streets may have been paved (I doubt it though), but Colon was probably the first one to be recorded to have been paved and it fit the standards for what is a proper "street" in Spanish/European/Western terminology, hence the distinction.

frustratedarchitect

February 13th, 2009, 07:12 AM

DOWNTOWN vs. UPTOWN Baguio

MESSY URBAN CORE:
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2976373375_e838150d6b.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/3275261183_9ea7b54ce4.jpg?v=0

QUIET UPTOWN

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/3275261137_3f0cc118e2.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3276049598_08e5b236c4.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2976597129_c31c5528c4.jpg?v=0

Wadaboy

February 13th, 2009, 07:26 AM

Baguio City looks very dense..... how many tall buildings are there?

carl_vilches21

February 13th, 2009, 08:43 AM

[dx]

February 13th, 2009, 03:09 PM

Legazpi City

The area at the lower part of the picture is Old Albay District, the administrative center of Legazpi City where the Albay Capitol, Legazpi City Hall, Albay Cathedral and several schools are located, surrounding the Peñaranda Park (following the traditional Spanish urban planning). At the upper right corner of the photo is the Legazpi port district, the central business district of the city. The two districts, connected by Rizal St., were once two separate towns (Albay and Legazpi) that were merged in the 1890s to form the present-day Legazpi City.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8899/2091968cc9.jpg
by Oliver Gianan (http://www.panoramio.com/profile/?id=441000)

chuck23

February 13th, 2009, 03:35 PM

^^ Dami pala Tall buildings sa Baguio...

Wadaboy

February 13th, 2009, 05:10 PM

;32234796']Legazpi City

The area at the lower part of the picture is Old Albay District, the administrative center of Legazpi City where the Albay Capitol, Legazpi City Hall, Albay Cathedral and several schools are located, surrounding the Peñaranda Park (following the traditional Spanish urban planning). At the upper right corner of the photo is the Legazpi port district, the central business district of the city. The two districts, connected by Rizal St., were once two separate towns (Albay and Legazpi) that were merged in the 1890s to form the present-day Legazpi City.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8899/2091968cc9.jpg
by Oliver Gianan (http://www.panoramio.com/profile/?id=441000)

Maganda tingnan ang Legazpi City no?.... para siyang county ng USA.

freightrunner

February 13th, 2009, 11:42 PM

^^Pwedeng ilagay sa parang hindi sa Pinas thread?:cheers:

[dx]

February 14th, 2009, 01:47 AM

Maganda tingnan ang Legazpi City no?.... para siyang county ng USA.

^^Pwedeng ilagay sa parang hindi sa Pinas thread?:cheers:

For me, It looks like a regular Philippine city :)

Henz

February 14th, 2009, 08:34 AM

Havent been there.. Hopefully very soon.. wish to conquer the Bicolandia..

rustyboi

February 14th, 2009, 09:02 AM

frustratedarchitect

February 15th, 2009, 05:45 AM

;32234796']Legazpi City

The area at the lower part of the picture is Old Albay District, the administrative center of Legazpi City where the Albay Capitol, Legazpi City Hall, Albay Cathedral and several schools are located, surrounding the Peñaranda Park (following the traditional Spanish urban planning). At the upper right corner of the photo is the Legazpi port district, the central business district of the city. The two districts, connected by Rizal St., were once two separate towns (Albay and Legazpi) that were merged in the 1890s to form the present-day Legazpi City.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8899/2091968cc9.jpg
by Oliver Gianan (http://www.panoramio.com/profile/?id=441000)

I love legaspi. Lots of nice memories. Wish to go back to our house in Aeroville (or Aerocourt) sometime again. Gotta love the secluded beaches in Rapu-rapu too.

Waldenstrom

February 15th, 2009, 10:31 AM

BAGUIO

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ritche

February 15th, 2009, 12:39 PM

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SleMarKen

February 15th, 2009, 11:52 PM

^^infairness, di congested tingnana. Organized ang parking ng mga cars :okay:

SleMarKen

February 16th, 2009, 12:38 AM

"Calle Colon 2005"

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/475/colon8kd0.jpg

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Henz

February 16th, 2009, 08:58 AM

mwg12a

February 16th, 2009, 09:09 AM

Baguio City still looks beautiful IMO, not as beautiful as before. They seems to never have no people walking down the streets, I mean, tons of them, it must be the cooler weather there that makes people walk more OR? were they mostly tourists? It looks overpopulated so I'm guessing it's mostly the Baguio residents.

shyaman

February 16th, 2009, 11:32 AM

Cebu City…

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shyaman

February 16th, 2009, 11:34 AM

CEBU CITY

President Osmeña Boulevard

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Osmeña Circle

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2029/DSC_0261a.jpg

Gen. Maxilom Ave.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2029/DSC_0260a.jpg

national guard

February 16th, 2009, 12:13 PM

Hay... na miss ko tuloy ang Baguio.. kakainis di pa ako nakabalik..

But the pics you quoted are from Dumaguete!:)

carl_vilches21

February 16th, 2009, 12:36 PM

^^
...Wrong quote lang ata yun...

freightrunner

February 16th, 2009, 02:12 PM

But the pics you quoted are from Dumaguete!:)

Nagtaka rin ako pero I chose to ignore it hehe:lol:.

ritche

February 17th, 2009, 09:33 AM

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artvision

February 17th, 2009, 01:17 PM

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/artrocket/Claveria1-1.jpg
(courtesy of anywheredavao.blogspot.com)

Claveria St. in downtown Davao. I once heard this part of the city had made it to the Guinness Book of World Records as the street having the most number of banks, in 1997 (I can count at least 7 visible banks from the pic); wonders if anybody got a copy of GBWR 1997 issue to confirm it.

(^^ this may still be under speculation as I still haven't found any info from the internet search engines, unless someone happens to have a 1997 guinness book to confirm this or otherwise)

Henz

February 18th, 2009, 09:11 AM

But the pics you quoted are from Dumaguete!:)

ganun ba.. hehehe.. kakahiya pala.. ma check nga..

Henz

February 18th, 2009, 09:14 AM

ganun ba.. hehehe.. kakahiya pala.. ma check nga..

oo nga.. kakahiya talaga.. anyway.. miss ko na rin ang Dumaguete.. tagal na ako di nakarating.. marami na pagbabago jan ah...

artvision

February 18th, 2009, 04:12 PM

attn: just got info from forumer junax, nominated lang pala ang claveria st. in Davao as having the most number of banks in a single street by guinness records in 1997. But still it's no mean feat, it supposedly reached around 30 banks when claveria once evolved as the city's major CBD during that time.

leviaragon

February 18th, 2009, 06:02 PM

based from the pictures that has been posted here
i find mati as the most photogenic downtown and cebu downtown as the
most historical...

artvision

February 19th, 2009, 02:52 AM

I consider dumaguete as photogenic kasi malinis ang mga kalye, or any city with clean streets for that matter kahit maliit na city lang yan. baguio would have been more nice had they implemented the preservation of otherwise scenic verdant hills, but such wasn't the case. iloilo has many vintage and classical structures still in existence, which is good and better if they revitalize it.

shyaman

February 19th, 2009, 10:55 AM

Colon Street
CEBU CITY

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2030/DSC_0116a.jpg

shyaman

February 19th, 2009, 10:57 AM

Iznart Street
ILOILO CITY

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shyaman

February 19th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Calle Real (J.M. Basa Street)
ILOILO CITY

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boy muscovado

February 21st, 2009, 06:23 AM

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 06:42 AM

^^ I don't think so...because the oldest Spanish settlement in Panay would be Ogtong (Oton) or some say...Dumangas. But I think most scholars have agreed that Oton is the first Spanish settlement in the island. Iloilo came in later and was then called La Punta. The first street there is now Calle Santo Rosario (from Fort San Pedro to Plaza Libertad)

m1k3

February 21st, 2009, 07:27 AM

wow iloilo is rich in spanish architecture..

Porknight

February 21st, 2009, 09:07 AM

^^ but its so depressing too see all the dirt beside those old creeping buildings, if those building were in Malaysia or Singapore they would be wonderful as they were before and revered as landmarks.

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 09:09 AM

^^ Yeah...it is depressing. Its a good thing those have been protected against demolition by a city ordinance, the guidelines for proper protection are near completion...ang business plan na lang ang kelangan ilatag and most especially...funding na lang ang kinakailangan. Its a one step out from neglect.

I think Malaysia and Singaporean heritage sites also suffered the same fate as these before but is now spearheading the preservation and adaptive reuse of the old sites.

Porknight

February 21st, 2009, 09:29 AM

chuck23

February 21st, 2009, 11:01 AM

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 11:39 AM

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Clean and restore this building put it in Milan or London I'm sure businessmen over there will fight to have this piece of art and make it an atelier or a fancy cafe.

I really like these buildings unfortunately they will never get the glamour that they deserve .
You know what is annoying is the complete lack of the government everywhere you go . Look at the side walks , look at the roads , the spaghetti wires ?

What we really don't see is how how lucky we are , we have a lot of stuff to show to tourists but we prefer to show them our malls and our new high rises when we have all our neighbours who got better malls and shiny buildings that we have.
Unfortunately, this is in the Philippines. One sickening fact is that Filipinos do not prioritize History or even its culture or everything heritage conservation because they are so sticked with their survival instinct and profiteering rather than looking back in their past and define their culture.

Sometimes being an advocate of history and heritage conservation is frustrating, especially here in the Philippines.

I have to post this because I really do not have any idea whether this piece of building will even stand within the next 3 years as it has been condemned by the Manila City Hall.

All of them are at San Nicolas, Binondo, Downtown Manila
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carl_vilches21

February 21st, 2009, 11:50 AM

^^
...I agree with you...

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 11:53 AM

^^ Actually, there is still hope for these establishments. Like what I've said earlier, Singapore and Malaysia has been thru our present phase. And I really hope that someday, the Filipino people would genuinely be good enough to look onto their past and move forward...and take care of the heritage that their ancestors gave.

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 11:57 AM

The "Ayala Avenue" of Manila back then. The business hub and commercial centre. Now a silent and eerie reminder of its glorious past.

To think of it, the name "Escolta" has been synonymous to a road strip lined with commercial establishments.

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carl_vilches21

February 21st, 2009, 12:13 PM

...Upon the expassion of Metro Manila, is it possible that these old buildings of ours could be demolished and replaced by a new skyscraper???

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 12:29 PM

^^ Yes...not unless there is a local ordinance that would at least protect it.

For example, the construction of Puregold Laoag in a heritage school of Laoag Central Elementary School mired a controversy. The Jai Alai Building in Manila and numerous buildings...

artvision

February 21st, 2009, 01:42 PM

Unfortunately, this is in the Philippines. One sickening fact is that Filipinos do not prioritize History or even its culture or everything heritage conservation because they are so sticked with their survival instinct and profiteering rather than looking back in their past and define their culture.

Sometimes being an advocate of history and heritage conservation is frustrating, especially here in the Philippines.

I have to post this because I really do not have any idea whether this piece of building will even stand within the next 3 years as it has been condemned by the Manila City Hall.

IMO most probably because of the '3rd world' kind of education that this country seems to have, where the educational system may have produced graduates as efficient products for the economic machinery, but not much at teaching its people how to build a nation with a keen sense for self-reliance but seemingly dependent on the whims of capitalist globalization.

These educational institutions paled in instilling to its students the nurturing and enhancement of culture necessary to provide 'soul' to a nation. Unlike in more civilized and cultured countries, not often can one find Filipinos instilled with the passion for the appreciation of literature, art, history, culture. At worse, those that advocate for it may even be ignored, ridiculed, or treated contemptuously with infamous crab mentality. Sometimes Filipinos borrow their sense of culture via crass commercialism and entertainment media, which of course have that practical intention of primarily profiting from them.

These also reflect with the lack of enthusiasm for the preservation of heritage sites.

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 02:19 PM

IMO most probably because of the '3rd world' kind of education that this country seems to have, where the educational system may have produced graduates as efficient products for the economic machinery, but not much at teaching its people how to build a nation with a keen sense for self-reliance but seemingly dependent on the whims of capitalist globalization.

These educational institutions paled in instilling to its students the nurturing and enhancement of culture necessary to provide 'soul' to a nation. Unlike in more civilized and cultured countries, not often can one find Filipinos instilled with the passion for the appreciation of literature, art, history, culture. At worse, those that advocate for it may even be ignored, ridiculed, or treated contemptuously with infamous crab mentality. Sometimes Filipinos borrow their sense of culture via crass commercialism and entertainment media, which of course have that practical intention of primarily profiting from them.

These also reflect with the lack of enthusiasm for the preservation of heritage sites.

Right. It's manifested in the number of enrolling students in a particular school. Most of the students prefer to go "practical courses" over "impractical courses (such as history, socsci and humanities)" and even in primary and secondary education which all humanities and social sciences were compressed into one and points heavily with math and science which are "profitable subjects."

freightrunner

February 21st, 2009, 02:50 PM

QUOTE=habagatcentral1;32632124]^^ Yes...not unless there is a local ordinance that would at least protect it.

For example, the construction of Puregold Laoag in a heritage school of Laoag Central Elementary School mired a controversy. The Jai Alai Building in Manila and numerous buildings...[/QUOTE]

Yup. Some posters who prefer development and I guess profit are angry over the provincial government's decision to block the proposal and stop construction and opted for the preservation of the old school building at LCES instead. It is simply amazing that some of us don't really have a clue as to what is or what is not proper.

habagatcentral1

February 21st, 2009, 03:18 PM

^^ I think Laoag still has lots of space for development.

artvision

February 22nd, 2009, 02:43 AM

^^ Really? How about Wall Street in New York?

Claveria was just one of the other nominees during that time. The street is only more or less a kilometer in span compared perhaps to wall street, but managed to host about 30 banks when it once bustled as major business district during 1997. The street eventually declined as a major CBD when traffic worsened in the area forcing it to implement a one-way lane.

But it's still a rare feat even to be nominated by the guinness world records, unfortunately it seemed those concerned did not 'bank in' on the accolade, and some portions of the city succumbed to urban blight. Otherwise it could have been an added attraction that can be complemented with shops, cafes, law offices, hotels, even BPO's. Presently some portions of it are being renovated, with mostly new bank branches.

IMO I still believe Claveria is an ideal site for banks to settle in Davao City. It has ample parking spaces at the back of buildings, traffic will be well maintained being a one way lane, and safe and convenient being located in the middle of the downtown area. The local govt. has plans of installing cctv camers in the streets of the city, so this would add more efficiency to the city's facilities and infrastructures. Who knows, the street could be capable of gaining that world record title right here in the country, it only takes cooperation and foresight to those concerned.

ritche

February 22nd, 2009, 10:05 AM

boy muscovado

February 22nd, 2009, 01:58 PM

Unfortunately, this is in the Philippines. One sickening fact is that Filipinos do not prioritize History or even its culture or everything heritage conservation because they are so sticked with their survival instinct and profiteering rather than looking back in their past and define their culture.

Sometimes being an advocate of history and heritage conservation is frustrating, especially here in the Philippines.

I have to post this because I really do not have any idea whether this piece of building will even stand within the next 3 years as it has been condemned by the Manila City Hall.

All of them are at San Nicolas, Binondo, Downtown Manila
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Haaaay, I have seen old spanish buildings along Hidalgo, Arlegui, Dapitan and Bambang streets and they are just crumbling to waste...haaaay.....esteros should also be cleaned again. They were one of the jewels of Manila before.

freightrunner

February 22nd, 2009, 06:35 PM

Unfortunately, this is in the Philippines. One sickening fact is that Filipinos do not prioritize History or even its culture or everything heritage conservation because they are so sticked with their survival instinct and profiteering rather than looking back in their past and define their culture.

Sometimes being an advocate of history and heritage conservation is frustrating, especially here in the Philippines.

I have to post this because I really do not have any idea whether this piece of building will even stand within the next 3 years as it has been condemned by the Manila City Hall.

All of them are at San Nicolas, Binondo, Downtown Manila
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/206/600x600/32/Nikolas00032.jpg?et=GtaJW3YCYrWjN31rt%2BfHyw&nmid=106866450

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Diyan po ba tumira si Gen. Antonio Luna?

Porknight

March 2nd, 2009, 06:08 PM

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5152/dsc00842mt3.jpg

Many of the nice places in Dumaguete such as Shakey's or the establishments that line up along the Boulevard are actually restored old houses.
Thank god.

ANyway do we have a damaguete thread here?

Christendom

March 3rd, 2009, 10:04 AM

PEZA GIVES INCENTIVES TO TWO PROJECTS (http://www.individual.com/story.php?story=95791954)
MANILA, Feb 04, 2009 (AsiaPulse via COMTEX) --

The Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA) has approved two projects with a combined cost of P3.332 billion (US$70.9 million) entitling these ventures with a package of tax and fiscal incentives.

Approved projects are Bacolod City Special Economic Zone and UP North Property Holdings, Inc.

The Bacolod City Special Economic Zone is a 250-hectare project with an investment of P1.844 billion. It is being promoted as a free trade zone to attract light manufacturing operations for the export market.

Tommy de Leon, director for business development of the project developer Bacolod Real Estate Development Corp., said the project is being developed into a mixed-use economic zone.

The projects major components include a manufacturing zone, free trade zone, information technology hub, medical tourism and retirement zone.

De Leon, however, said that the first phase of the development is being marketed as a free trade zone to be able to attract light manufacturing industries.

De Leon explained that in a free trade zone the local value added of the products that would be manufactured for the exports market require only light or semi- manufacturing processes such as mere assembly and packaging.

"We are positioning it as a free trade zone because that is the most practical and realistic way of marketing our ecozone now because with the global financial crisis it would be difficult to attract manufacturing operations," he said.

The free trade zone is also located at the back of an international and domestic seaport with existing warehouses.

The project is expected to start commercial operation in June this year. The operator is targeting investors from Asia and European countries.

"We are still putting the final touches of our marketing plan," De Leon said.

The project is being bankrolled through 60 percent equity contribution from major stockholders and 40 percent loans.

It is owned by Negros Occidental-based businessmen led by Atty. Simplicio A. Palanca, the company chairman and president.

PINOYmeat

March 3rd, 2009, 10:13 AM

how about the tourism ecozones? theyre still ecozones, right? heh

Christendom

March 3rd, 2009, 11:03 AM

^^siguro kasali na yun

daming types of interprise ang ecozones:
Export
Tourism
Customs Brokerage
Utility
Trucking
Security Agency
Information Technology
Service
Freight Forwarding
Warehousing
Facility

carl_vilches21

March 3rd, 2009, 11:13 AM

^^
...yup...Meron po...Click this link...:Dhttp://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=818018

ritche

March 3rd, 2009, 12:05 PM

Thank god.

ANyway do we have a damaguete thread here?

Click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=818018).

Porknight

March 4th, 2009, 04:24 AM

thanks mate

SleMarKen

March 5th, 2009, 02:57 AM

COLON revitalization

:applause: ...love it!

Renovation of Colon buildings pushed (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=445649&publicationSubCategoryId=108)
Philstar Online
By Ehda M. Dagooc Updated March 05, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines - The Colon Business Association Inc. (CBAI) encourages members to invest on building “beautification” and renovation to preserve the historical and business dynamism of the country’s oldest street — Colon.

CBAI president Jose R. Soberano III said that the primary thrust of the organization this year is to push for improvements of the physical structure of buildings located along Colon Street from south end point of Gaisano Capital South all the way to the University of the Visayas.

“We are making sure that we continue to attract [consumer] traffic in the area, as we are competing with other shopping destinations in the uptown districts,” Soberano said in an interview.

There are at least 50 member establishments of CBAI, Soberano said the group will meet soon to realize this program, in coordination with the Cebu City’s existing project called “Downtown Revitalization” program.

Soberano, whose family owns Quirino-Leonor Rodriguez Building along Colon Street, said that businessmen are willing to put their money on building renovation, after all he said the business dynamism of Colon is still there.

“The downtown [business] dynamism is still there, the strong downtown presence in all local economies is needed,” he said.

Despite the presence of air-conditioned and ambiance-tempting shopping destinations in the “new urban Cebu”, Colon is still the favorite shopping destinations to many, especially those that are more adventurous to shop for cheaper-priced goods.

As part of the organization’s effort to revitalize Colon Street, Soberano said CBAI will also call the attention of Department of Tourism (DOT) to support its cause of preserving the tourism-advantage of Colon Street.

“It [Colon] is such a historic landmark, they [DOT] have to create awareness program to aggressive push the area a destination,” he stressed.

“We need the heritage component of Colon, as the oldest street in the Philippines,” he added.

Although business is still alive in the area, businessmen believe that if it were to be promoted very well by tourism stakeholders, trade and commerce in Colon Street will reach once again into its full potential, just like in the old days.

CBAI was organized in 1980 with founding members including Michel Lhuillier, Edward Gaisano (Metro Gaisano), Alex Gaisano (Gaisano Main), Rene Avila and owners of Rose Pharmacy, Julie’s Bakeshop, and other Fil-Chinese Cebuano businessmen.

While these businessmen also have their businesses outside of Colon Street, Soberano said this time, they are uniting to help Colon stay alive, and attract more consumer traffic, as well as capture strong interest from domestic and foreign tourists.

While building renovation investment is an individual contribution of the Colon Street locators, Soberano said the group is hoping the local government will also strongly implement stringent rules to maintain peace and order along the street to ensure the security of consumers and tourists alike.

Henz

March 5th, 2009, 07:17 AM

^^As much as I hate the people who ridicule and belittle Cebuanos and Cebu as a whole, I wouldn't want Cebu to cede from the Philippines yet.

me too.. of course not.. despite that the country is being governed by mostly Luzon based politicians who happens to be corrupt and inept, Cebu should still part of the Philippines.. in sickness and in health.. hehehe

Henz

March 5th, 2009, 07:21 AM

Where in Cebu City do you think you can buy a 300 hectares unused parcels of land? And why do you think it's cheaper to buy those lands than to reclaim? I know Tom and his planners won't venture such a huge project without considering all other options and also the cost and return of their investment. :)

the guy just simply dont know what he is talking..

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

March 5th, 2009, 07:32 AM

me too.. of course not.. despite that the country is being governed by mostly Luzon based politicians who happens to be corrupt and inept, Cebu should still part of the Philippines.. in sickness and in health.. hehehe

may i continue..for richer and poorer, till death do us part! hay! wag magsalita ng tapos! :lol::lol:;):D:nocrook:

Henz

March 5th, 2009, 07:35 AM

^^^^

It is a bit strange why Cebu seems to be foolishly following the mistakes of Metro Manila: narrow roads, lack of planning in other infrastructures, polluted cities with smoke belching vehicles...

Making the whole Cebu as a special eco zone is a very good idea.

the problem is most in the provinces which includes Cebu only gets a piece of the national infrastracture allocation, and thats a fact, since 50% goes to Metro Manila and suburbs.. while the rest is allocated nationwide.

However, Cebu was able to get these multi-billion projects through Japanese government assistance, and without the Jap government, cebu would still have 2 lane roads.. since there will be no MCDP which was the reason why major roads was expanded to four or six lanes road projects.

the mandaue reclamation is a project through a private entity and government cooperation...

hahay.. paet.. may na lang gani na ang cebuano people are very patient and self reliant..

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

March 5th, 2009, 07:54 AM

^^

right! in the first place if our income would have been used solely from here to fund our dream projects, then why should Cebuanos be so fond about replicating manila if only we have the appropriate funds? We could have either be like some first world city by now! We won't be this foolishly following with in the first place. ;)

zoroethgenre_003

March 5th, 2009, 09:43 AM

ilang Economic Zones na ba meron ang Philippines?

freightrunner

March 5th, 2009, 11:45 PM

Cagayan Economic Zone Authority . Check these links:
http://ceza.gov.ph/
http://www.firstcagayan.com/

New item Overview Mision Vision Seaport Airport Housing Agro-industrial Leisure Incentives Procedure Requirements Forms

TRANSSHIPMENT

AGRO-INDUSTRIAL

TOURISM

Expand your Asian Business......................................................

The Cagayan Special Economic Zone and Freeport, or Cagayan Freeport, managed by the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority, or CEZA, is counted as one of the flagship projects of the Philippine government and is envisioned to be a major transshipment point for trade in the Asia-Pacific rim.
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"There is no better time than today to take hold of this excellent opportunity and develop and expand your Asian business through Cagayan Freeport."

--Jose Mari Ponce
CEO, CEZA
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freightrunner

March 6th, 2009, 12:02 AM

Cagayan Freeport creates about 6,000 jobs
Posted on February 9th, 2009
under Biz Progress

Thousands of Filipinos have found jobs at the Cagayan Special Economic Zone and Freeport, as the new economic hub in northeast Luzon continued to draw fresh investments and international tourists.

Cagayan Economic Zone Authority Administrator and CEO Jose Mari Ponce reported that in just seven years, the number of potential jobs in the economic zone increased exponentially from just 195 in 2002 to 5,918 as of August 2008.

The 2008 employment expectation in the economic zone rose 80 percent from 3,283 potential jobs that were registered in 2007. Potential job generation was estimated at 2,541 in 2006.

“Once these investments become fully operational, we expect more jobs to be created for Filipinos not only in Cagayan province, but also in other provinces of Cagayan Valley (Region 2),” said Ponce.

Cagayan Valley groups the northeast Luzon provinces of Cagayan, Isabela, Nueva Vizcaya, Quirino, and Batanes.

Cagayan Special Economic Zone and Freeport in Sta. Ana, Cagayan is the fastest-growing industrial, logistics and tourism hub in the country. It was established in February 1995, by virtue of Republic Act No. 7922. CEZA manages the Freeport and attracts new locators into the economic zone.
Ponce said that as of end-August 2008, CEZA had 87 locators, of which 49 were already operational with actual investments of P3.826 billion.

The 87 locators have actually committed to invest a total of P16.4 billion. In 2007, there were only 68 registered enterprises and in 2006, the number stood at 55.

These investments are in real estate, banking, port operations, aviation, interactive gaming, tourism and resort services, agro-industrial, leisure facilities, international fishing, telecommunications, software development, management services, trading and importation, mining and quarrying, among others.

Following the increase in investment registrations, estimated operating revenues of CEZA climbed to more than P200 million in 2008 from P139 million in 2007.

Among the largest investments are two leisure-resort and gaming support service complexes, with a total of 600 rooms, including villas, KTV, water sports facilities and restaurants that are now operational.A 2007 regional economic situationer prepared by the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) in Cagayan Valley has already cited the importance of the economic zone as an investment magnet and job generator in the region.

“The expansion and improvement of Cagayan Special Economic Zone and Freeport changed the investment climate in the region,” the NEDA report said.

The Freeport also boosted tourism in Cagayan Valley, as thousands of foreign and domestic tourists visited and infused money in the region. These tourists came particularly for the gaming facilities at the economic zone.

Ponce said the economic zone’s contribution to Cagayan Valley became more pronounced as a driver of economic growth and employment generation in the region in 2008.

:cheers:

isagani

March 6th, 2009, 08:20 AM

me too.. of course not.. despite that the country is being governed by mostly Luzon based politicians who happens to be corrupt and inept, Cebu should still part of the Philippines.. in sickness and in health.. hehehe

Ouch. Don't be so harsh on your fellow Filipinos. Corrupt politicians exist around the country, and the ordinary people of Luzon have no control over what the major parties put forth as their presidential candidates. My parents actually voted for Miriam Santiago back in 1992 even though they're not Hiligaynon, but were equally supportive of Fidel Ramos (though they're not Pangasinenses either) when he won. They did not vote for, and were later disgusted with, Estrada despite having Tagalog lineage. Give your countrymen a little more credit. We should stop playing the ethnicity card every single time to advance wild suggestions of a Luzon conspiracy against everyone else in our country. Sure, politicians can be inept, but the problem is not endemic to Luzonians, you know. Classifying your countrymen as somehow inferior just because they come from one part of the country shows prejudice and ethnocentrism - and this goes both ways, from the snobby Manila elite brat who looks down on the probinsyana housekeeper who has an accent, to the passionate blogger who clumps everyone in Luzon and classifies them all as degenerates.

the problem is most in the provinces which includes Cebu only gets a piece of the national infrastracture allocation, and thats a fact, since 50% goes to Metro Manila and suburbs.. while the rest is allocated nationwide.
I don't have figures to back me up (but I don't think neither do yourself) so please refrain from calling "50%" it a fact. So it may be true that majority of government funds go to Luzon projects, but when the island region comprises 56% of the national population, it's pretty hard for any national politician to not pay attention to these problems, especially when these problems also affect national productivity as a whole. If you get persistent and massive flooding and traffic jams in Metro Manila (a significant contributor, by far, to national income) a significant amount of economic transactions don't take place and subsequently result in less productivity. If dry spells and lack of reliable irrigation get ignored in Central and Northern Luzon food production decreases drastically. If you don't provide reliable land-based transportation to link the inhabitants of the largest and most populous island in the country then you're basically doing the country injustice because there's a lot of lost potential economic gains to be had: that's why it's only sensible that Northrail and Southrail be rehabilitated (it's already there, why not use it?) and other road projects be completed, so that if you're a businessman from San Fernando, La Union you can easily and safely travel to Pasacao, Camarines Sur and conduct business there, or if you're an office worker residing in Imus, Cavite, it will be possible for you to work in and commute to Clark and avail of a higher-paying job than if you only had to look for it in the crowded Metro. Much more people benefit for a short amount of time with many positive long-term effects - why not take the chance, right?

And it's not like the rest of the country has been left out. Under PGMA, RORO ports and vessels now provide links throughout our country that has made transportation more efficient - even though the government actually loses money for operating ports in non-economically viable areas (at least for now). After the fall of Marcos, investments have come into many parts of the country in proportion to their seen economic advantage, and local and foreign businesses have started to realize the value of establishing themselves in many of our urban centres.

Cebu's international port and airport were not funded solely by Cebuanos; all Filipinos had a hand in improving Cebu's international gateways, and I, for one, am happy to see that taxpayer money is bearing fruits to the inhabitants of Cebu, which they can now capitalize on to build a stronger economy. I am excited to see the results of the Cebu EDZA if it does get implemented as it has the potential to revolutionize how economic planning takes place on national and local levels, not just benefiting the people of Cebu, but also the whole country in general, because all Filipinos hope for, and will contribute to its success.

So don't hold grudges against your fellow countrymen if you don't see what you want to get done right away. An island province of 3 million warm and persevering people don't necessarily outweigh the advantages of serving a far greater number of people (around 50 million) for better cost-benefit ratio. Nor will it be prudent for any national politician to disproportionately focus on the countryside when the economic heartland of the country trails behind in infrastructure and fails to deliver much-needed services for its residents to be economically productive. As much as we all want our respective localities to get the glitzy projects and grandiose developments, we must also keep in mind that decisions should be grounded in reality.

Just my 2 cents.

Sleepwalker

March 6th, 2009, 08:53 AM

Nice one, Sir... :)

carl_vilches21

March 6th, 2009, 01:38 PM

^^
...Good news...
...Sana mag minus na yung traffic...:D

carl_vilches21

March 6th, 2009, 02:39 PM

Ouch. Don't be so harsh on your fellow Filipinos. Corrupt politicians exist around the country, and the ordinary people of Luzon have no control over what the major parties put forth as their presidential candidates. My parents actually voted for Miriam Santiago back in 1992 even though they're not Hiligaynon, but were equally supportive of Fidel Ramos (though they're not Pangasinenses either) when he won. They did not vote for, and were later disgusted with, Estrada despite having Tagalog lineage. Give your countrymen a little more credit. We should stop playing the ethnicity card every single time to advance wild suggestions of a Luzon conspiracy against everyone else in our country. Sure, politicians can be inept, but the problem is not endemic to Luzonians, you know. Classifying your countrymen as somehow inferior just because they come from one part of the country shows prejudice and ethnocentrism - and this goes both ways, from the snobby Manila elite brat who looks down on the probinsyana housekeeper who has an accent, to the passionate blogger who clumps everyone in Luzon and classifies them all as degenerates.

I don't have figures to back me up (but I don't think neither do yourself) so please refrain from calling "50%" it a fact. So it may be true that majority of government funds go to Luzon projects, but when the island region comprises 56% of the national population, it's pretty hard for any national politician to not pay attention to these problems, especially when these problems also affect national productivity as a whole. If you get persistent and massive flooding and traffic jams in Metro Manila (a significant contributor, by far, to national income) a significant amount of economic transactions don't take place and subsequently result in less productivity. If dry spells and lack of reliable irrigation get ignored in Central and Northern Luzon food production decreases drastically. If you don't provide reliable land-based transportation to link the inhabitants of the largest and most populous island in the country then you're basically doing the country injustice because there's a lot of lost potential economic gains to be had: that's why it's only sensible that Northrail and Southrail be rehabilitated (it's already there, why not use it?) and other road projects be completed, so that if you're a businessman from San Fernando, La Union you can easily and safely travel to Pasacao, Camarines Sur and conduct business there, or if you're an office worker residing in Imus, Cavite, it will be possible for you to work in and commute to Clark and avail of a higher-paying job than if you only had to look for it in the crowded Metro. Much more people benefit for a short amount of time with many positive long-term effects - why not take the chance, right?

And it's not like the rest of the country has been left out. Under PGMA, RORO ports and vessels now provide links throughout our country that has made transportation more efficient - even though the government actually loses money for operating ports in non-economically viable areas (at least for now). After the fall of Marcos, investments have come into many parts of the country in proportion to their seen economic advantage, and local and foreign businesses have started to realize the value of establishing themselves in many of our urban centres.

Cebu's international port and airport were not funded solely by Cebuanos; all Filipinos had a hand in improving Cebu's international gateways, and I, for one, am happy to see that taxpayer money is bearing fruits to the inhabitants of Cebu, which they can now capitalize on to build a stronger economy. I am excited to see the results of the Cebu EDZA if it does get implemented as it has the potential to revolutionize how economic planning takes place on national and local levels, not just benefiting the people of Cebu, but also the whole country in general, because all Filipinos hope for, and will contribute to its success.

So don't hold grudges against your fellow countrymen if you don't see what you want to get done right away. An island province of 3 million warm and persevering people don't necessarily outweigh the advantages of serving a far greater number of people (around 50 million) for better cost-benefit ratio. Nor will it be prudent for any national politician to disproportionately focus on the countryside when the economic heartland of the country trails behind in infrastructure and fails to deliver much-needed services for its residents to be economically productive. As much as we all want our respective localities to get the glitzy projects and grandiose developments, we must also keep in mind that decisions should be grounded in reality.

Just my 2 cents.

...This statement is true...

...Corrupt politicians do exist all around the country...

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

March 8th, 2009, 05:13 AM

I don't have figures to back me up (but I don't think neither do yourself) so please refrain from calling "50%" it a fact. So it may be true that majority of government funds go to Luzon projects, but when the island region comprises 56% of the national population, it's pretty hard for any national politician to not pay attention to these problems, especially when these problems also affect national productivity as a whole. If you get persistent and massive flooding and traffic jams in Metro Manila (a significant contributor, by far, to national income) a significant amount of economic transactions don't take place and subsequently result in less productivity. If dry spells and lack of reliable irrigation get ignored in Central and Northern Luzon food production decreases drastically. If you don't provide reliable land-based transportation to link the inhabitants of the largest and most populous island in the country then you're basically doing the country injustice because there's a lot of lost potential economic gains to be had: that's why it's only sensible that Northrail and Southrail be rehabilitated (it's already there, why not use it?) and other road projects be completed, so that if you're a businessman from San Fernando, La Union you can easily and safely travel to Pasacao, Camarines Sur and conduct business there, or if you're an office worker residing in Imus, Cavite, it will be possible for you to work in and commute to Clark and avail of a higher-paying job than if you only had to look for it in the crowded Metro. Much more people benefit for a short amount of time with many positive long-term effects - why not take the chance, right?

Cebu's international port and airport were not funded solely by Cebuanos; all Filipinos had a hand in improving Cebu's international gateways, and I, for one, am happy to see that taxpayer money is bearing fruits to the inhabitants of Cebu, which they can now capitalize on to build a stronger economy. I am excited to see the results of the Cebu EDZA if it does get implemented as it has the potential to revolutionize how economic planning takes place on national and local levels, not just benefiting the people of Cebu, but also the whole country in general, because all Filipinos hope for, and will contribute to its success.

So don't hold grudges against your fellow countrymen if you don't see what you want to get done right away. An island province of 3 million warm and persevering people don't necessarily outweigh the advantages of serving a far greater number of people (around 50 million) for better cost-benefit ratio. Nor will it be prudent for any national politician to disproportionately focus on the countryside when the economic heartland of the country trails behind in infrastructure and fails to deliver much-needed services for its residents to be economically productive. As much as we all want our respective localities to get the glitzy projects and grandiose developments, we must also keep in mind that decisions should be grounded in reality.
Just my 2 cents.

kaya nga mas maganda kung magfederal na lang tayo para ang problema ninyo eh hindi rin maging problema namin. Gastusin ninyo eh pera galing sa inyo at hindi sa iba pang lugar kinukuha! hindi naman ibig sabihin na porque malaki ang populasyon ng maynila eh sa Manila na halos lahat ng projects ng gobierno! aba hindi naman tama yan! porque maliit lang ang populasyon ng ibang lugar ay hindi ibig sabihin na hindi dapat magkaroon ng magandang projects ang lugar galing sa gobierno!

ang systema ang dapat palitan! ang national government ang halos nagpapatupad ng lahat ng proyekto sa buong pilipinas! dapat bigyan ng sapat na pundo ang mga probinsya para magkaroon ng pera para punduhan ang mga proyekto na kailangan ng probinsya. Hindi mo masisisi ang ibang tao na magisip na Manila lang ang pinapaboran ng national government kasi lahat ay nandoon na!

isagani

March 8th, 2009, 07:49 AM

kaya nga mas maganda kung magfederal na lang tayo para ang problema ninyo eh hindi rin maging problema namin. Gastusin ninyo eh pera galing sa inyo at hindi sa iba pang lugar kinukuha! hindi naman ibig sabihin na porque malaki ang populasyon ng maynila eh sa Manila na halos lahat ng projects ng gobierno! aba hindi naman tama yan! porque maliit lang ang populasyon ng ibang lugar ay hindi ibig sabihin na hindi dapat magkaroon ng magandang projects ang lugar galing sa gobierno!
A change in wealth distribution through measures such as switching to federalism can provide solutions that can generate/keep more income for the Cebu (but not much else in many parts of the country). But morally grandstanding because somehow some of our countrymen are not deserving of the government projects being implemented in their areas, and/or typecasting an entire group of our countrymen as immoral and evil conspirators trying to bring everyone else down is just symptomatic of ethnic hatred and ignorance. Scapegoating will get us nowhere.
ang systema ang dapat palitan! ang national government ang halos nagpapatupad ng lahat ng proyekto sa buong pilipinas! dapat bigyan ng sapat na pundo ang mga probinsya para magkaroon ng pera para punduhan ang mga proyekto na kailangan ng probinsya. Hindi mo masisisi ang ibang tao na magisip na Manila lang ang pinapaboran ng national government kasi lahat ay nandoon na!
IRA sharing already provides an equitable redistribution (based on an LGU's land area and population) of national wealth to local government units, and the taxes that the provincial and local governments collect are not shared with any other. So if ever a province lacks sufficient funds for a grandiose project (and many do embark on such exceedingly expensive projects), would it be the fault of the people of Metro Manila? Many people, unfortunately, blame everything on them, or even worse, just one ethnic group. If ever the provincial government needs the project completed, the national government, as it sees fit, can step in to augment or even shoulder the entire cost of the project, sometimes through the securement of loans from financial institutions or from other countries, which the entire country will pay for in the future. So it's only necessary that projects need to be economically viable and guaranteed to produce lasting and sustainable results. That's why the rehabilitation of the PNR and the former US bases, as well as the improvement of many Luzon road systems (all of which seemingly draw the ire out of many outside Luzon) have become national priorities because they are bound to serve way more people from all walks of life and of diverse ethnic backgrounds and have the potential of immediate economic gains: think of all the people who can now travel from Pampanga to see Mount Mayon and boost tourism in the area, or the amount of fresh flowers, vegetables and fruits from Benguet reaching the port at Poro Point in La Union for shipment to international markets.

Many of us seem to concentrate on the big projects, while in many cases, it's the multitude of smaller but equally helpful ones implemented around the countryside that are actually benefiting those communities. Lots of airports around the country (mostly outside Luzon, I must say) are being upgraded and numerous RORO ports have been built (again, mostly outside Luzon). These are all proportional to the current and immediate potential economic capacities of the localities in which they are built. It would not be prudent to spend national wealth on building right away, for example, a Mindanao Railway or a Trans-Visayas Bridge System not only because these can't just be built easily (unlike the 'big' Luzon projects mentioned earlier, which are already there, but just need rehabilitation), but also because these monumental projects are not yet proportional to the current economic capacities of the areas that they will benefit - imagine building a bridge across Tañon Strait when RORO ports have not yet reached their full potential, or spending much of the national wealth on clearing paths throughout Mindanao to make way for a railway that will serve less people for an exorbitant pricetag. Although of course, in the future, I hope that at some point I will see them come into fruition, one also can't blame (and should not resent) the national government for not focusing resources on inappropriate undertakings.

Just out of curiosity, what projects do the people of Cebu (or even what you just personally think) need to be implemented?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

March 9th, 2009, 04:56 AM

A change in wealth distribution through measures such as switching to federalism can provide solutions that can generate/keep more income for the Cebu (but not much else in many parts of the country). But morally grandstanding because somehow some of our countrymen are not deserving of the government projects being implemented in their areas, and/or typecasting an entire group of our countrymen as immoral and evil conspirators trying to bring everyone else down is just symptomatic of ethnic hatred and ignorance. Scapegoating will get us nowhere.

IMO that is why its better if we go federal so that the national government will not have problems implementing their projects to people from the provinces because as you said, and i agree with you that most of our countrymen are not deserving of the government projects being implemented in their areas. We may say some might end up on corruption.

IRA sharing already provides an equitable redistribution (based on an LGU's land area and population) of national wealth to local government units, and the taxes that the provincial and local governments collect are not shared with any other. So if ever a province lacks sufficient funds for a grandiose project (and many do embark on such exceedingly expensive projects), would it be the fault of the people of Metro Manila? Many people, unfortunately, blame everything on them, or even worse, just one ethnic group. If ever the provincial government needs the project completed, the national government, as it sees fit, can step in to augment or even shoulder the entire cost of the project, sometimes through the securement of loans from financial institutions or from other countries, which the entire country will pay for in the future. So it's only necessary that projects need to be economically viable and guaranteed to produce lasting and sustainable results. That's why the rehabilitation of the PNR and the former US bases, as well as the improvement of many Luzon road systems (all of which seemingly draw the ire out of many outside Luzon) have become national priorities because they are bound to serve way more people from all walks of life and of diverse ethnic backgrounds and have the potential of immediate economic gains: think of all the people who can now travel from Pampanga to see Mount Mayon and boost tourism in the area, or the amount of fresh flowers, vegetables and fruits from Benguet reaching the port at Poro Point in La Union for shipment to international markets.

Many of us seem to concentrate on the big projects, while in many cases, it's the multitude of smaller but equally helpful ones implemented around the countryside that are actually benefiting those communities. Lots of airports around the country (mostly outside Luzon, I must say) are being upgraded and numerous RORO ports have been built (again, mostly outside Luzon). These are all proportional to the current and immediate potential economic capacities of the localities in which they are built. It would not be prudent to spend national wealth on building right away, for example, a Mindanao Railway or a Trans-Visayas Bridge System not only because these can't just be built easily (unlike the 'big' Luzon projects mentioned earlier, which are already there, but just need rehabilitation), but also because these monumental projects are not yet proportional to the current economic capacities of the areas that they will benefit - imagine building a bridge across Tañon Strait when RORO ports have not yet reached their full potential, or spending much of the national wealth on clearing paths throughout Mindanao to make way for a railway that will serve less people for an exorbitant pricetag. Although of course, in the future, I hope that at some point I will see them come into fruition, one also can't blame (and should not resent) the national government for not focusing resources on inappropriate undertakings.

Just out of curiosity, what projects do the people of Cebu (or even what you just personally think) need to be implemented?

IMO Transaxial Expressway, BRT, LRT, MCIAA expansion..;)

garzland

March 9th, 2009, 09:19 AM

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Henz

March 9th, 2009, 11:02 AM

mAiNsTrEaMhunter

March 9th, 2009, 11:55 AM

^^
right! the national government is just so focused about what else can be done to improve Luzon and Manila in particular by almost having all its funds poured into it just because all the facilities are already present over there and all it needs to do is maintain it doesn't follow that just because the provinces, most esp. the southern parts has less facilities compared to luzon and manila then we can't enjoy the benefits of our taxes we pay for the government in exchange for faster economic growth around these areas. IMO, I think its not fair enough to leave the provinces with just "fairly good" infrastructure projects. Lalabas ulit ang ugali na "okay lang yan total maliit lang kayo dito hindi nyo naman kailangan ang mga magastos na proyekto!"

Its like Luzon and Manila gets "first-class" infrastructures while the provinces endure like "second-class" infrastructures such as narrow roads, bridges, ports and "fairly good" airports. ;)

federalist

March 9th, 2009, 07:24 PM

grabe ang Unitop. they have a lot of branches now.

I think they started with 2 stores in Cebu and then open up a branch in Tagbilaran or Ormoc. And now, bigla na lang dumami.

habagatcentral1

March 10th, 2009, 12:47 AM

^^ I thought they've started in Binondo?

venntro

March 10th, 2009, 02:19 AM

ASEZA chief: No displacement in Aurora ecozone (http://http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=447128&publicationSubCategoryId=67)
By Manny Galvez Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM

CASIGURAN, Aurora , Philippines – A top official of the Aurora Special Economic Zone Authority on Saturday clarified that no massive displacement of farmers and landowners will take place in a 500-hectare site of the ecozone once support infrastructure facilities are set in place.

ASEZA Chairman and Administrator Joseph Delano-Bernardo told The STAR that contrary to reports, only around 300 tenant farmers and landowners will be relocated once the government has utilized the 500 hectares in barangays Dibet, Dibacong and Esteves for the initial development of the ecozone.

Earlier, it was reported that as many as 3,000 tenant farmers would be displaced from the three barangays as a result of the construction of buildings and road networks in the area.

Bernardo said that Sen. Edgardo Angara has started negotiations with the National Housing Authority for the allocation of housing units for an initial 20 hectares as relocation site with amenities for a complete community.

He said ASEZA is also negotiating with seven landowners for 200 hectares in the project site.

Bernardo said that the government would offer higher prices for landowners who would be moved out of the area compared to the prevailing prices. At present, he said, irrigated lands fetch at P100,000 per hectare while unirrigated lands cost P80,000. “Definitely, we are going to offer a higher price,” he said.

While admitting that the issue of the project site being rice lands has yet to be resolved, Bernardo said that the ASEZA might negotiate first with owners and tillers of non-irrigated lands. He noted that there is an administrative order suspending for two years the conversion of agricultural lands to non-agricultural uses but the ecozone, being a creation of law and a free port could be an exemption.

“But anyone who wants to sell in the irrigated areas, we would welcome them,” he said.

Bernardo, a former Philippine ambassador to Spain, said that the initial development for ASEZA over the next 18 months would include the construction of the administration building, corporate campus, a three-star hotel, fire department buildings, two cabannas, the road network and underground electrical installations.

Henz

March 10th, 2009, 06:24 AM

Right. They started in Binondo. The Unitop headquarters and main store is located in Binondo, occupying more than 5 storey edifice.

carl_vilches21

March 10th, 2009, 10:24 AM

grabe ang Unitop. they have a lot of branches now.

I think they started with 2 stores in Cebu and then open up a branch in Tagbilaran or Ormoc. And now, bigla na lang dumami.

...Unitop in Ormoc got burned...
...Wala nang natira...That was back 2005 I think...

federalist

March 10th, 2009, 06:00 PM

Right. They started in Binondo. The Unitop headquarters and main store is located in Binondo, occupying more than 5 storey edifice.

ah okay. thanks.

Unitop in Colon is now getting bigger. I think it is 3 or 4 storeys now. Just newly renovated. Plus they have an escalator now. asenso na.:lol:

i've been there once and prices are very cheap.

Henz

March 11th, 2009, 06:52 AM

ah okay. thanks.

Unitop in Colon is now getting bigger. I think it is 3 or 4 storeys now. Just newly renovated. Plus they have an escalator now. asenso na.:lol:

i've been there once and prices are very cheap.

In addition, they had just opened a four storey building in Lapu-Lapu city, in fact simultaneously opened with the Unitop building near Colon.

zoroethgenre_003

March 11th, 2009, 07:05 AM

Unitop in Zamboanga is a 2-story edifice..it got burned in 2007 but reopened a month after the fire..

bacolodchamp

March 12th, 2009, 05:30 AM

Sagay certified as
ecozone developer

The Sagay City government has been issued a certificate of registration as developer and operator of North Negros Agro-Industrial Export Processing Zone by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority, it said in a press release.

The certification was issued pursuant to Presidential Proclamation No. 1622 dated Sept. 15, 2008 and the provisions of R.A. 7916 or “The Special Economic Zone Act of 1995,” declaring 200,000 square meters of land located at Brgy. Paraiso as special economic zone.

As duly-registered ecozone developer and operator, Sagay City is entitled to establish, develop, construct infrastructure facilities, utilities and public amenities necessary to enable the PEZA-registered enterprises or locators to operate effectively and pursue a viable business within the designated ecozone, the press release said.

As registrant, it is also allowed to sell, transfer, assign or lease an area in favor of entities who are registered or entitled to be registered with PEZA.

The agri-industrial ecozone will initially cater to finished food products and sugar-related food products which are abundant in the locality. Meat products will also be processed for export with the construction of a triple A slaughterhouse, the press release added.*

^^

venntro

March 12th, 2009, 07:52 AM

Bacnotan sells Batangas industrial park stake to Phoenix Petroleum (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/152282/Bacnotan-sells-Batangas-industrial-park-stake-to-Phoenix-Petroleum)
03/11/2009 | 05:12 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Bacnotan Consolidated Industries Inc. sold its stake in a Batangas industrial park manager to Phoenix Petroleum Philippines Inc., a listed oil wholesaler and trader.

In a disclosure to the Philippine Stock Exchange (PSE) on Wednesday, Bacnotan said that it sold all of its 60-percent equity interest – comprising 3.6 million shares – in Bacnotan Industrial Park Corp. (BIPC)
for P109.81 per share to Phoenix Petroleum.

The stake was worth P395.3 million.

Phoenix Petroleum has agreed to pay 18 percent of the amount as down payment and the balance to be spread out in monthly installments over a period of five years.

Earlier, the PSE halted trading of Phoenix Petroleum shares after it acquired BIPC, which runs an industrial park in Batangas.

In January, the company announced plans of acquiring 100 percent of BIPC for P658 million or P109.80 per share.

The company’s board of directors has already approved a memorandum of agreement with BIPC shareholders for a due diligence covering its possible acquisition of the industrial park manager and other properties, Phoenix said in a letter to the PSE.

A parcel of industrial land consisting of 39,420 square meters, situated in Lumbang Calzada, and Calaca in Batangas are also being examined.

BIPC is the industrial property development arm of the Philippine Investment Management Inc. (Phinma), a conglomerate privately-held by the Del Rosario family.

The BUIP in Calaca, Batangas is BIPC’s first development venture.

Besides having its own port, it was designed to serve light and heavy industries within the high growth sector of the Cavite-Laguna-Batangas-Rizal-Quezon (CALABARZON) zone.

Phoenix Petroleum said Petroterminals Philippines Inc., its unit in charge of its depot and terminal facilities, is a locator in BUIP. Petroterminals plan to provide oil supplies in the Luzon area, the company said. GMANews.TV

garzland

March 14th, 2009, 02:30 AM

ah okay. thanks.

Unitop in Colon is now getting bigger. I think it is 3 or 4 storeys now. Just newly renovated. Plus they have an escalator now. asenso na.:lol:

i've been there once and prices are very cheap.

Yeah, it's really cheap but some of their products are low in quality but generally fine.

bacolodchamp

March 14th, 2009, 03:41 AM

yepeee...read this guys. exciting news about bredco is already unfolding before us.

From the Center
with Rolly Espina
OPINIONS

An advanced birthday gift to Sammy
Rolly Espina

It may just have been coincidental. But the weekend visit here by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority headed by Ms. Lilia de Lima was on the eve of the 87th birthday of businessman Sammy Palanca of BREDCO.

The group included 42 personnel, mostly top staff of the PEZA, according to Tom de Leon who said he also acted as guide for the group who inspected the BREDCO area preparatory to issuing the approval of the BREDCO petition to have the area declared an economic zone.

The group was also accompanied by Rep. Monico Puentevella of Bacolod who also toured the sprawling reclamation area with the de Lima party.

De Leon said the PEZA board gave the nod to BREDCO's request for the area to be declared a special economic zone for Bacolod City .

The 70 hectares will be for light trade businesses and the special economic zone of 70 hectares will be for light industries, De Leon said.

De Lima was impressed with her 42 staffers with the BREDCO port's 2,000 lineal meter port with an 11 meter draft that could accommodate even foreign vessels.

She observed that it could enable overseas vessels to dock, load and unload, then turn around.

She also noted that the economic zone could attract investors who could immediate require some 1,000 workers as a good start for the envisioned program to make the BREDCO area hum with activities.

The declaration, De Leon said, aims to stimulate economic activity for the city and provide jobs for Bacoleños.

He cited a conversation with Bobby Castillo of the Engineering Equipment Inc. who presented the possibility of constructing liquefied gas tanks for Australia .

These are as big as tankers and could be assembled here at competitive cost.

If the project is finally approved, De Leon said, the EEI officials said the firm may require some 10,000 technicians.

Asked whether the economic global crisis could not stymied the plan, Castillo reportedly pointed out that even while the Middle East multinationals are currently husbanding their resources, there is just a slowdown in their economic activities. Thus, the situation is just temporary and may pick up again soon.

De Lima reportedly suggested that the first will be the IT BPO zone. There are several more call centers that are interested in locating here, she reportedly told De Leon and the BREDCO officials.

These are looking for alternative sites and several of them had already expressed interest in the BREDCO area.

De Leon added that the economic zone will require an efficient modern sewerage network, paved and wide roads, adequate supply of electricity and water plus other amenities that are needed by a special economic zone.

In the long run, he added, it will soon buzz with light industries that will manufacture lighting fixtures and local materials such as instruments for repair and others.

In all, it will provide positive products for investors and will prove beneficial for the city with new graduates grabbing available employment opportunities.

De Leon said these potential developments had thrilled Palanca who had envisioned the BREDCO area as a hub of economic activities for Bacolod .

It provides hopes that the vision of the original planners of Bacolod may finally be realized with a clear-cut direction – globally clean, environment friendly, and a green and safe city.

Despite his age, Palanca, said De Leon , remains fixated in his dream of a dynamic and economically active city which can attract outside investors and provide employment opportunities to the city folks.

And this can be realized only now with the approval of the special economic zone at BREDCO.

We just need now the approval of the city council. And “I am sure that the Sangguniang Panlungsod members will not oppose the approved proposal for an economic hub humming with activities in the near future,” De Leon said.

Who will oppose the vision of Palanca and the BREDCO board for us to live in a clean, safe and very green city?

Well, that is the best birthday gift for as well as from Sammy Palanca.*

http://www.visayandailystar.com/2009/March/13/fromdcenter.htm

^^:banana::banana::banana:

zoroethgenre_003

March 14th, 2009, 04:09 AM

^^mostly Chinese -made..

bakasaurus

March 14th, 2009, 05:31 AM

^^mostly Chinese -made..

Sabi nga eh..

God made the world,
and then everything else was made in China!!

My Kung-fu is better than your Kung-fu.. (to the voice of HOngkong-produced kung fu movies of the 80's and 90's hehehe):banana:

federalist

March 14th, 2009, 08:26 AM

Yeah, it's really cheap but some of their products are low in quality but generally fine.

actually, not some but most. hehe

jpdm

March 15th, 2009, 02:46 PM

The cagayan ecozone is a good investment coming from the government.

And the investments made are good news.

Also, the bad news are those importers and smugglers of dangerous second hand vehicles.

This free port according to CAMPI is now the haven for smuggled second hand vehicles and rumor is that Enrile is one of the protectors.

Anyway, I hope more tourism-related projects will be put up in this ecozone.

I also hope agro-industrial investments will be given priority.:):cheers:

jpdm

March 15th, 2009, 02:50 PM

isagani

March 16th, 2009, 12:40 AM

Well its not actually being parochial or prejuducial.. i am just being truthful. Fact is, this sentiment is being shared not just us ordinary citizens in Vismin, but almost all political leaders. It is really so hard to approve big ticket projects in this part of the nation compared to Luzon.
It WAS being prejudicial, if you look back at some of the things posted here. Sure, we can all ramble about perceived disparities in the spending of national wealth, but unless someone coughs up actual figures to back claims up then everyone's word is as good as everyone else's. But I do believe that whatever investments being made in Luzon are for the benefit of the entire country, as more national revenues generated ANYWHERE results in more national wealth that will be distributed EVERYWHERE. Imagine if Cebu's Trans-axial Expressway was prioritized by the national government first without improving the roadways of Central Luzon - only the people of Cebu benefit here mostly, with only marginal contributions to national wealth, because it will service fewer people in a less economically diverse area, meaning less collection from E-VAT (which will be redistributed throughout the country) compared to improving a more productive area of the country first to generate greater wealth to be spent on other areas later. I give PGMA and her administration much deserved credit for spending national wealth more wisely and more equitably, as she has made taxpayer money work toward more profitable infrastructure in the right places which will later more quickly raise revenue for other projects around the country. This just makes plain economic sense, and our president knows what she's doing. I hope the next president has the same economic sensibility and improve upon GMA's economic legacy.

Alot complained that Cebu has narrow roads simply because the DPWH could not allocate funds to expand it, it is even hard for them to maintain it. Dont you know that the current road expansions we have in Cebu under MCDP 1 and MCDP 2 are Japanese government funded? I guess also with the South Road Properties and the Tunnel Project are Cebu City loans from Japanese Banks, which is guaranteed only by the NG. There is also an upcoming MCDP 3 ( hay salamat!) which is as usual Japanese Government funded.
Again, it's not only Cebu with that problem. People from Cavite, Rizal and Bulacan can say the same thing (and have been saying so since the 1990s) but have not received their equitable share of national expenditure in terms of roads and highway improvements. And those road expansions: the Japanese government did not give the money to Cebuanos? Quite the contrary. It's the WHOLE country that will shoulder the loan that Japan provided to the national government to complete these Cebu projects. The people of Cebu can thank (or not, whatever they wish) the taxpayers of Luzon (who contribute far more to national revenue collections and debt repayment), the rest of the Visayas, and Mindanao, later.

Given the wholehearted support of the national government who happens to be based in Manila, the Davao Region and the Cotabato Food basket area could be more productive and can even support the food requirements of the Vismin Regions. Western Visayas especially Bacolod and Iloilo could enhance their potential and become a power house trading cities more than what it is today.. Eastern Visayas may not be agriculturally dependent since it has alot of industries waiting to be tapped.
I agree, but in order to tap their full potential, infrastructure investments that are in need to be made first. But such investments are harder for the national government to secure funding (in the form of foreign loans) for, especially if the potential credit providers don't see immediate economic gains (in the case of much of Eastern Visayas) or where the area has outstanding peace and security issues that prevent their full economic potentials to be reached (in the case of Greater Cotabato). Such underlying issues need to be addressed first, and smaller investments (more farm-to-market roads instead of expressways for now) must be made in tandem whilst tackling these issues. I personally would like to see an excellent circumference road system in Samar and reliable highways linking the great agricultural areas of the Cotabato basin to major Mindanao cities, but unless foreign funding sources are convinced that such major undertakings are bound to produce immediate economic gains for the country to repay its debt sooner. Bacolod and Iloilo are no doubt on their way to becoming great cities, and the building of their international airports are only a first step. But what makes a great city is not only its geographical position or history. It also needs a good, sizeable economic base, something which these two are in the process of achieving. This will only come organically and WILL take time. Because even if you transfer the national capital to either of these two cities today, majority of Manila-based businesses won't flock to either of them for the simple fact that these cities are not as big a market as Mega Manila. To this end, there's nothing much the government can do but support these cities' endeavours in proportion to their current economic capacities.

Roro ports and airports is not enough.. it should focus more on economically viable projects which is sustainable like roads and bridges, farm to market road from the countryside to the market, financial aid to farmers, growers, manufacturer and producers and etc.
Right on.

It is not hard to determine the wide disparity.. you just have to set foot to the countryside and not limit your sight to the concrete forests of Metro Manila.. I invite you to come and see the difference... In this way, you will understand the essence of our sentiments.
I have set foot on the countryside and have lived there for a considerable part of my life, and I see the difference. I understand the sentiments but I never resorted to blaming fellow countrymen for not seeing an expressway in my backyard or a shiny international airport within driving distance. There is disparity, but was it created by the ordinary people of Luzon? Poor us who bear the brunt of your ire when it's the political leaders make the decisions. Economic realities dictate what is possible, especially under the current economic climate. I hope this scapegoating stops for good and that people see the broader picture and realize that things are not as easy as they think it is.