http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/rocsky_mini.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/downtown.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/roc_night1.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/Rochester_areal.jpg

Not half bad; nice density, and the water compliments it. 8/10.

5/10 Not bad for just a million people in the metro area population.

really a metro of a million???i didnt realize it was so big, if you compare it to like Calgary or Edmonton that is actually pretty tiny, so 5/10.

I love the city. Ive been there before. 9.5

really a metro of a million???i didnt realize it was so big, if you compare it to like Calgary or Edmonton that is actually pretty tiny, so 5/10.

But compare it to other cities in the area with comperable populations and it's not that tiny. Buffalo has about 1,170,111 people in the metro area(42nd largest in US) and Rochester is definitely taller and more dense, and Syracuse has about 732,117 and ranks 59 and it doesn't even compare. Rochester comes in 46th with 1,098,201

But compare it to other cities in the area with comperable populations and it's not that tiny. Buffalo has about 1,170,111 people in the metro area(42nd largest in US) and Rochester is definitely taller and more dense, and Syracuse has about 732,117 and ranks 59 and it doesn't even compare. Rochester comes in 46th with 1,098,201

Rochester is neither taller or as dense as Buffalo. Rochester's tallest building is 443 ft. Buffalo's tallest is 529.

Rochester is neither taller or as dense as Buffalo. Rochester's tallest building is 443 ft. Buffalo's tallest is 529.

Buffalo has the one tall building (HSBC) that stands alone and the city hall among a couple mediocre buildings, not very dense or tall. Rochester has Xerox, Bousch and Lomb, Chase, Hyatt, Kodak... and they're all very close, with the exception of Kodak.

upstateny! - where upstate are you in? rochester?

Kind of nice.

upstateny! - where upstate are you in? rochester?
I go to Rochester Institute of Technology(RIT) but I'm from the back woods closer to Albany.

^ cool, i'm originally from utica.

Rochester is an awesome city. You have to drive through downtown to really get the feel of it. I give it a 9. My aunt and uncle live there so I go there often.

I made a couple small changes to the skyline.

Before...
http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/downtown.jpg

After...
http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/RochHUGE.jpg

Photoshop is cool. :)

I like the second skyline better :).

Rochester is an awesome city. You have to drive through downtown to really get the feel of it. I give it a 9. My aunt and uncle live there so I go there often.

I second that, although I have yet to REALLY discover it and the city's activities. I was there last summer and you wouldn't believe how I got there. But I like Buffalo better, personally, but Rochester is great.

Good to see the Roc get some props on the forum. It is a great city to live in, but our economy is in the toilet. FYI: downtown Rochester is seeing some relatively large residential developments taking shape right now (Sagamore on East, Corn Hill Landing), but there is very little office or retail growth to speak of. Other unique construction jobs: PaeTec Park (soccer stadium), major expansion of the Strong Museum, new Troup-Howell Bridge over Genesee River, and $230M Renaissance Square (Performing Arts Center, Transit Center, and College Campus).

But compare it to other cities in the area with comperable populations and it's not that tiny. Buffalo has about 1,170,111 people in the metro area(42nd largest in US) and Rochester is definitely taller and more dense, and Syracuse has about 732,117 and ranks 59 and it doesn't even compare. Rochester comes in 46th with 1,098,201

Buffalo's metro is artificially cut off by the Canadian boarder. The US Census does not give credit for the 400,000 Canadian residents in the metro. The US Census also inexplicably gives Rochester metro a huge 5 county land area vs. Buffalo's two county area. Some of the towns included in Rochester's metro are actually more oriented toward Buffalo.

In reality Rochester is more like a metro of 700,000 Buffalo is more like a metro of 1.6M

Buffalo's downtown is certainly not a model of super hieght and density but it is far bigger than Rochester. The city of Buffalo in general is much much more dense and urban than Rochester.

Rochester
http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/rocsky_mini.jpg
Buffalo
http://www.buffnet.net/~alyx1/south.gif

By Canadian Standards.. For a city of over 500,000, it has a small skyline.

We get WUHF Fox Rochester in Thunder Bay. It's the most popular of the American locals that we get here in North Ontario.

I think the skyline is small .. 7/10

But it looks nice !!

In reality Rochester is more like a metro of 700,000 Buffalo is more like a metro of 1.6M


That is a terrific point Steel. There are about two or three counties that are considered Rochester metro that should be counted as Buffalo metro. The people travel to Buffalo to work and identify as Buffalonian. There are also other counties of WNY that should be counted Buffalo as well - Chautauqua, Cattaraugus, and Allegheny counties. If Ontario was hypothetically part of the USA, all the way up to Hamilton and possibly Beyond would be considered Buffalo metro...but because it is canada it can't be counted.

Rochester has a nice skyline for a city of its size but doesn't really compare to Buffalo's. Buffalo has nearly twice as many buildings and much more densely clustered downtown. Rochester's buildings are on average 5-10 years newer than Buffalo's, but with Buffalo's skyline's newest additions of Fountain Plaza and Key Bank Center and City Centre Condominiums in the early 1990s probably evened that out.

6/10

great city, go (sabres..........tear) oh wait, go amerks. :cheers: may not be buffalo, but still a great city in upstate NY :)

I didn't even vote yet, but I did now! 9/10. The skyline looks phenominal for a city of its size, 218,000 and metro of 1,000,000. So MODERN and CLEAN looking!

http://www.pbase.com/jaybird287/image/42588999.jpg

This is my all-time favorite picture of Rochester...
http://www.pbase.com/jaybird287/image/42589001.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jaybird287/image/42589003.jpg

6/10

Impressive density, a nice skyscraper cluster, and a green setting. Overall, an 8 in my opinion.

Small, but quite tall and dense. I like it. 7/10

That is a terrific point Steel. There are about two or three counties that are considered Rochester metro that should be counted as Buffalo metro. The people travel to Buffalo to work and identify as Buffalonian. There are also other counties of WNY that should be counted Buffalo as well - Chautauqua, Cattaraugus, and Allegheny counties. If Ontario was hypothetically part of the USA, all the way up to Hamilton and possibly Beyond would be considered Buffalo metro...but because it is canada it can't be counted.

Rochester has a nice skyline for a city of its size but doesn't really compare to Buffalo's. Buffalo has nearly twice as many buildings and much more densely clustered downtown. Rochester's buildings are on average 5-10 years newer than Buffalo's, but with Buffalo's skyline's newest additions of Fountain Plaza and Key Bank Center and City Centre Condominiums in the early 1990s probably evened that out.

Buffalo's downtown is certainly bigger than Rochester's, but only because Rochester made the mistake in the 60's of shoving its downtown into a well defined and delineated area (Inner Loop). Rochester did not get the chance Buffalo had in developing a central core beyond what the city defined as "downtown." I also don't get the argument that downtown Buffalo is "more dense" than Rochester. When you have buildings back-to-back-to-back, as you do in both cities--how can you call one "more dense" than the other? Larger, I would agree with--but not denser.

I do have to agree with you though on the point of increasing the number of counties in the Buffalo metro. Certainly the three you mentioned belong with Buffalo, but the other one's that you think are more "Buffalo oriented" just isn't true. More people in these counties send people to work in Rochester than in Buffalo. Also, if you take into account the number of people in these counties that read the D&C as opposed to "The News" you'll find that it falls firmly in the favor of the Rochester media.

Having said that, it should be noted, (just to be fair), that in many of those counties, the residents do watch TV from both markets, listen to radio from both, and recieve their news from both cities publications.

My most serious objection though comes throught trying to give Buffalo extra props by including the cities and towns from across the border ( in another country)!! This is just too ridiculous to consider. Do you honestly believe that Hamilton, Kitchener, and all the others between Buffalo and Toronto don't have enough of a population base, or retail, or goods and services base, to support the populace in those area's? That they look to Buffalo for their shopping needs, read the Buffalo News, or that their work and social lives revolve around Buffalo? Please!

As far as Rochester being a metro area of 700,000...lol? First of all, Monroe County has 740,000 residents, not including Genessee, Livingston, Wayne, Seneca, and half of Wyoming Co (the other half of that county SHOULD go to Buffalo). I'm not real good at math, but if you add up the populations of those additional counties, you'll probably come out with a greater than 700,000 metro.

As far as the downtown is concerned. I'm giving it an 8. It looks nice. Good density, but somebody needs to include the 366 ft. Kodak Tower in those downtown photos.

If Ontario was hypothetically part of the USA, all the way up to Hamilton and possibly Beyond would be considered Buffalo metro...but because it is canada it can't be counted.


???

I guess you'd also have to hypothetically ignore Toronto's existence, or the fact that Hamilton is an industrial/economic nucleus of it's own right.

I don't know if the skyline it is big of small for a city of its size, but I think Rochester has a nice skyline for be a medium size city. In addition, river and forest empowers skyline's beauty.

7/10 to Rochester!

I'm a Buffalo fan, but I give Rochester a 9/10 simply because it has a nice understated (I don't like "skyscraper forests"), crisp and cut skyline.

Here's Frontier Field and a good view of the Kodak building. These are both just north west of downtown in the High Falls district.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~rochballparks2/rochester/04roc_thirdbase.jpg

8.5/10

Sorry about double posting but, here's a picture of High Falls from the pedestrian bridge. Downtown's in the backround.

http://www.wyrde.com/pictures/RochesterTrip04/Image15.jpg

A very nice medium-sized skyline. I give it a 7/10. :okay:

7.5/10. I really want to go and visit the abandoned subway :yes:

7.5/10. I really want to go and visit the abandoned subway :yes:

It's really freakin sketchy down in there. It's cool if you get a change to check it out sometime though. Bring plenty of flashlights and a group of people, I wouldn't suggesting going it alone. There's a lot of websites about it too.

8/10

looks very nice 8.5/10

BROTHER WEASE KICK CANCERS A$$

Buffalo's metro is artificially cut off by the Canadian boarder. The US Census does not give credit for the 400,000 Canadian residents in the metro. The US Census also inexplicably gives Rochester metro a huge 5 county land area vs. Buffalo's two county area. Some of the towns included in Rochester's metro are actually more oriented toward Buffalo.

In reality Rochester is more like a metro of 700,000 Buffalo is more like a metro of 1.6M

Buffalo's downtown is certainly not a model of super hieght and density but it is far bigger than Rochester. The city of Buffalo in general is much much more dense and urban than Rochester.

Rochester
http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/rocsky_mini.jpg
Buffalo
http://www.buffnet.net/~alyx1/south.gif

Well, considering the fact that Monroe County alone is around 740,000 that would negate any chance of it being a metro of around 700,000. Plus, were you to add on the additional population in just the immediate counties surrounding Monroe Co., you would be looking at a metro closer to 900 to 950,000--not the 700,000 you keep bringing up.

Also, Buffalo is in no way, shape, or form, 1.6 million people. Sorry.

i like it, it's like a mini nyc with ruralism :) - 9/10.

Not impressive. Dull and boring.

7/10

Buffalo's metro is artificially cut off by the Canadian boarder. The US Census does not give credit for the 400,000 Canadian residents in the metro. The US Census also inexplicably gives Rochester metro a huge 5 county land area vs. Buffalo's two county area. Some of the towns included in Rochester's metro are actually more oriented toward Buffalo.

In reality Rochester is more like a metro of 700,000 Buffalo is more like a metro of 1.6M

Buffalo's downtown is certainly not a model of super hieght and density but it is far bigger than Rochester. The city of Buffalo in general is much much more dense and urban than Rochester.

Rochester
http://www.geocities.com/seamonkey0135/rocsky_mini.jpg
Buffalo
http://www.buffnet.net/~alyx1/south.gif



Whoa old thread that I have to post on and of course give my awsome city 9 for a city it's size. If the Xerox Tower got a new facelift, it would be a 10, again, for a city it's size. Oh yeah, and steel, while you are one of my favorite forumers because you really support the all of the great lakes cities, Rochester's metro is certainly more than 700,000 people. Monroe County itself has more than that with over 735,000. parts of Wayne, Ontario, and Livingston County have grown to become full blown Rochester suburbia (think Macedon, Victor, Caledonia). While I find it fair that Genesee county was dropped from the metro, and think that Orleans County should be split half and half to Buffalo and Rochester (I think the reason that it goes to Rochester is because it actually touches Monroe county, and not Erie County, and that Orleans county's population is much more dense in the eastern area), The rest of the census designated MSA fits just fine, and that Rochester definetly has over 1 million in it's metro.

4.5 It's not great city, just ok.

Rochester is used to proposed new generation of Riverside in 70's and 80's. It's used to proposed massive boom and suburban sprawl from NYC to Rochester, it's known as Inland Empire of Upstate New York. Now, this proposed is failed and went into crap.

LA lover, shut the hell up and learn how to type properly. I just got an email from my deaf cousin and it didn't have all of the shitty grammar you have. Oh yeah, and he lives in Rochester, and it is a great city. There was never going to be an Inland empre in Upstate NY, between NC, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo is all rolling hills and farm country. Beautiful landscapes but not ideal for development.

If you have ever visited Roch., it is the complete opposite of Buffalo, the city is smaller and the people seem to think Roch. is bigger and better than Buffalo. They are just ignorant and in denial.

^^ Not really, I'm very fond of Buffalo and so are a lot of people in Rochester.

That white box in the middle is an eye sore. 4.

Are you talking about the Chase Tower?

Skyline is not too impressive, but fits a mid-sized city okay. 7/10

The skyline is still so small. 6.5/10

Just realized that some of the best shots of the Rochester skyline aren't even on this page. Here are some good ones;

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/nixter369/skylinefall.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/nixter369/pod110404.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/nixter369/Aerial_000.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/nixter369/RiverSkyline_n.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/nixter369/GenRiverboatsskyline_n.jpg

http://www.goddessofclarity.com/images/aerial.jpg

http://www.travelandtransitions.com/stories_photos/images/rochester_skyline.jpg

http://www.chem.rochester.edu/Photo/Night_Skyline.jpg

http://www.valleymanor.com/events/images/RochesterSkyline.jpg

7/10

word.

Nice photos.

Thanks, they aren't mine though, lol, I just found them on the internet a while ago.

boost

8/10

Great city. Rochester was one of the first US industrialized cities.

Buffalo: City = 279,745
Metro = 1,230,213
Number of High-Rise Buildings = 85

Rochester: City = 211,091
Metro = 1,133,140
Number of High-Rise Buildings = 62

For the size of Rochester I will give it an 8/10

8/10

lovely skyline

not bad. Small but dense. 5.5

7/10

hmmm, well.... errr... 4.5/10

7/10

i love rochester. i don't like some of the people from rochester, but i don't like some of the people here either.

9.5

8/10 not bad !!!

7/10

8/10.

nive baby cluster 6/10

7.5

not for me. 4.5

nicely situated on the river.. I'll change that to 5.5

6/10

6,5/10

8/10

7/10

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Rochester_aerial_aug_17_2007.jpg

Nice...
8/10

6/10

6.5/10

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8/10

8/10

7/10

For a city its size Rochester has a great skyline and wonderful buildings. 8/10

7/10

8. Good. Regards.

8/10

Another two:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3428176224_d0843c274c_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/59156439_02834dd249_b.jpg

Lived there(Rochester) when I was in my early 20's. These pictures look good. Under vlued skyline and for a city and metro of its size great skyline. Nice pictures good angles that shoow the whole downtown. Most show pictures that dont show the downtowns well which mean lower scores due to bad pictures. These pictures should get Rochester good scores of 7 and up!!! L.G.N.M

6/10

7.5/10
passing score.
despite the few midrises, the skyline look massive.

7,5/10

6.5/10.

6/10

6/10.

6/10