http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9578911%255E2862,00.html

Work to start on bridge
Kamahl Cogdon
17may04

STRUCTURAL engineers have given the go-ahead for work to start on the historic Sandridge Rail Bridge.

The Yarra River eyesore is to be transformed into a walkway and bicycle path linking Southbank and the CBD.
A report to be presented to Melbourne City Council tomorrow says no cracks were found and only minor corrosion was detected at either end of the 1888 bridge.

"In summary, the engineer has advised that major repairs are not envisaged," the report says.

But it notes the middle of the bridge could not be reached and further tests would have to be done as other spans became accessible during the restoration.









The report says work was expected to start on the bridge in November.

The relic is part of the $14.5 million Queensbridge pedestrian precinct development.

Wasn't this the most modest of several proposals tendered ? In any case, good to see some progress.

bout time

It wasn't even a proposal. The Brackwards govt decided that the proposals put forward were too much, so they decided to just leave it as a pedo bridge. What a waste. They should have either done something good with it or demolished it.

Wasnt one of the proposals to have a bar? Like a bar were you buy booze?
And another proposal was to have a ferris wheel from memory.

ive got 170 meg of stuff relating to sandridge bridge : P

ill post my design for it when i get home

what do u think???


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J/K

It wasn't even a proposal. The Brackwards govt decided that the proposals put forward were too much, so they decided to just leave it as a pedo bridge. What a waste. They should have either done something good with it or demolished it.
Demolished it should be - its a hedious monstrosity and blocks what otherwise would be a great vista of the Casino and beyond.

I agree, the river looks too crowded with it and should be demolished. And how can you call the current government the Brackwards government with all the infastructure and all the other projects currently underway.

Demolished it should be - its a hedious monstrosity and blocks what otherwise would be a great vista of the Casino and beyond.

if you think sandridge bridge should be demolished lets just get rid of all the bridges across the yarra!

ill reserve my judgement until i walk along it... hope i dont fall in the water : )

hey hey - demolish it i say! and remember - blabbyboy first coined the term "pedobridge" (TM)!

I only hope its fixed up ok and enhances that part of the Yarra that now looks pretty much a waste land.

Reminder of the 5 proposals put ahead for Q Square, released 2002:

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and Gary Emery

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Entry submitted by Swaney Draper

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Entry submitted by Kerstin Thompson with Julian Raxworthy and Jason McNamee

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Trash!

#1 and #3 are the only ones that work.. I like #2 but you have to provide a direct thoroughfare to maintain Casino<->Southbank traffic - which #2 doesnt..

Is it your proposal Plotstyle?

It's bold, it's bright. Possibly a bit too heavy but may work. It certainly makes a statement. Overpowering is the word that comes to mind.

The 3 elements make a feature but don't address the bridge in full. The bridge itself would have to possibly have someting to complement your propsal.

Nice work there buddy :)

Is it your proposal Plotstyle?

It's bold, it's bright. Possibly a bit too heavy but may work. It certainly makes a statement. Overpowering is the word that comes to mind.

The 3 elements make a feature but don't address the bridge in full. The bridge itself would have to possibly have someting to complement your propsal.

Nice work there buddy :)

yeap its mine did it 2 years ago (back in the days :) ) the thing is it had bold cause otherwise whats the point...
but in reality im still not sure as to what to do with that bridge everyone from dcm to bates smart has had a crack this has been on the books for almost 8.5 years!


anyway this is what i imagine is going to happen low-rez :kiss:

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hey hey - demolish it i say! and remember - blabbyboy first coined the term "pedobridge" (TM)!

lets demolish blabbyboy hang on he's a melbourne zealot and is heritage listed! :bash:

j/k :)

How come it is heritage listed, we had tourists come from Italy in April and when we explained what it is they honestly laughed at us and said, 'What the hell for it's a monstrosity......', and I tend to agree, it was only a rail bridge, there are toooo many bridges over the Yarra, Too much is going on, they need to keep it clear and simple. Open up the vistas not close them in...

They should just demolish the stupid bridge ! :rant:

It doesn't fit in the area and it makes the yarra river look cluttered. :wtf:

I can't believe their feasibility study and all that other crap they did cost the taxpayer so much money to come up with that final design ! I could have come up with that design myself !

Cheers

Lozza :drunk:

im still not sure wether we keep it or not alot some of the other bridges suck aswell...

tunnel time!

Hey, there's an idea! Have an underground pub connecting the north and south sides!

Hey, there's an idea! Have an underground pub connecting the north and south sides!

its actually quite a good idea something like the laneways in the city except underground :grouphug: now whos got some $$$$ :)

How come it is heritage listed, we had tourists come from Italy in April and when we explained what it is they honestly laughed at us and said, 'What the hell for it's a monstrosity......', and I tend to agree, it was only a rail bridge, there are toooo many bridges over the Yarra, Too much is going on, they need to keep it clear and simple. Open up the vistas not close them in...
Its heritage listed because it was on the first railway line in Australia that ran to Sandridge (Port Melboure).But even though Im usually in faver of heritage buildings this one is past its used by date and is an eyesore that should be removed and maybe part of it put up somewhere else as a tribute to the engineers of the time.

From Heritage Victoria (www.heritage.vic.gov.au)

Statement of Significance
What is significant?
The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge was the third successive bridge at this location to carry the rail link from Flinders Street Station to Port Melbourne and St Kilda. The bridge is on the line of the original Hobson's Bay Railway Company line to Sandridge, the first passenger railway line in Australia in 1853. The bridge was designed by the Victorian Railways Department and the contract let to David Munro & Co in 1886. It is a metal girder bridge with five spans totalling 178m and with a maximum span of 36.9m. The four railway lines were opened for railway traffic in 1888. The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is constructed from steel with hollow iron columns filled with concrete to support the plate girders and cross girders. The columns, set parallel to the stream flow in groups of three, were intended to reduce the impact of flooding. On either side of the river the steel girders are supported by bluestone and brick buttresses. On the south side the structure is continued as a brickwork viaduct. The location of the Flinders Street Station, the widening of the river and the great strength of its all-metal construction resulted in the unusual slanted angle of the bridge across the river, with the tracks at an angle of about 33 degrees to the stream flow. In 1925 overhead electrical masts were added and the original timber deck was replaced with rail and concrete slabs. The bridge is no longer used.

How is it significant?
The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is of historical, technical and architectural significance to the State of Victoria.

Why is it significant?
The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is historically significant as a surviving link across the River Yarra of Australia's first passenger railway line. The bridge has a strong historical association with the Port Melbourne and St Kilda railway lines which played a vital role in the development of Melbourne as a great commercial city of the nineteenth century. Each of these two lines was provided with twin tracks, making the bridge the first railway bridge in Victoria with more than two tracks. The bridge played a significant role in linking both port and recreational facilities with the city, facilitating the economic, suburban and demographic development of Melbourne. It is also historically significant as a notable example of the work of engineer, speculator and contractor David Munro, whose other work included Queens Bridge and Princes Bridge.

The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is technically significant as possibly the earliest example of the use of steel bridge girders on the Victorian railway system. The columns, innovative in construction design, are similar in design to Queens Bridge. The bridge is of considerable size, both in terms of its maximum span and its length. Its maximum span is among the ten longest metal girder bridge spans in Australia. The bridge is also an unusual example of bridge design for its skewed angle over the River Yarra.

The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is architecturally significant as an essentially intact and rare example of a building type, and as the only known example of a railway bridge in Victoria carrying substantial ornamentation. The bridge demonstrates a notable application of classical decorative schemes in its piers, columns, pediments, fanlight motifs and arched braces across the piers.

In summary its really old and, while it doesn't have any completely unique features, we looked really hard to find some rare elements because we have nothing better to do with our time.
There are a couple of other bridges in this style that are bigger and more impressive but they are only in locations where no one can see them and all the others have been knocked down because of how ugly they are.

I remember the Yellow peril during the 80's and early 90's was considered a piece of significant art. Now we have gotten rid of the that junk from the CBD, i really think the bridge can go aswell. Hell if they want to keep it, just keep it somewhere elses!!

The Yellow Peril hasn't been eradicated from the city - it's now next to the new orange ACCA building. Looks pretty good too.
As for the sandridge bridge - yeah, it should have been demolished, but now that it's here to stay they should get a move on and do something about it sooner rather than later.

It should be used for vehicle and ped, so it helps disperse intolerable peak hour traffic.

Jag, how are cars supose to use that bridge and where will they go once they are on it?

I don't think you know what you are saying!

just a nice green strip of grass would do me...and no damn shops!
or maybe the old allens sweets sign but that would look damn ugly during the day...not to mention the reverse angle.

They have started constuction at the southern end of the bridge. The concrete is now ripped up and it is fenced off. There isn't much room for pedestrians down there now, with FWP being blocked off a long way as well.

lets demolish blabbyboy hang on he's a melbourne zealot and is heritage listed! :bash:

j/k :)
i lurve you too, plotstyle! :kiss:

so...which was the winning queensbridge square proposal?

http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/dse/nrenpl.nsf/FID/-4FFC2A4EA4D11395CA256D480003CF4B?OpenDocument

^^ the one which is on the FWP billboards around the site Blabbs.

renamed thread.

Looks craphouse. Will it be another failed paved plaza, one wonders? I guess it has pedo traffic in a way that the City Square doesn't.

Forget about public spaces and usage. That will not motivate the MCC or State Government to redevelop and maintain the bridge. Yeah, they'll slapp on some coats of paint, throw on some decking and perhaps put some sort of ornamental lighting. But in the longer term there will be no commitment from either organisation to maintain it. In the medium tern (5-6 years) they'll announce that some commercial enterprise, or they will totally redevelop the thing before it rusts out totally beyond repair. If the latter happens then it will have to be torn down and as far as I am concerned on that issue ... the sooner the better.

Although, good point that you raise Blabbyboy about the City Square. I do recall the City Square being redeveloped to a huge degree of fanfare in 1980 when there was a shimmering waterfall fountain across the square (before the city council decided to turn it off); I also remember the big TV screen that tranmitted live TV 24 hours per-day (until they turned that off too). The City Square had a lovely arcade of shops behind the fountains and even had an undeground, leather-clad lounge complete with water falls and an ornate hand-painted ceiling. Yeah, you guessed it, they closed that one too. It had a bright yellow sculpture that everybody felt was unfitting in Melbourne's drab 1970's/80's streets. Oddly, today it is considered a bit of a city icon.

The problem was that the City Council coudn't make money off any of it. It was all originally built with a purpose of creating public space in the city. Oh well, nobility may as well go and take a hike, we must be damned to pay for everything, and at the end of the day, the old City Square (as marvellous as it was when it was built) didn't last because it generated no money for the city. Hence we have one of the ugliest buildings in inner Melbourne in it's place - The Westin Hotel. At least teh Westin is possibly paying it's way because otherwise it will be torn down in 25 years if it isn't.

Forget about public spaces and usage. That will not motivate the MCC or State Government to redevelop and maintain the bridge. Yeah, they'll slapp on some coats of paint, throw on some decking and perhaps put some sort of ornamental lighting. But in the longer term there will be no commitment from either organisation to maintain it. In the medium tern (5-6 years) they'll announce that some commercial enterprise, or they will totally redevelop the thing before it rusts out totally beyond repair. If the latter happens then it will have to be torn down and as far as I am concerned on that issue ... the sooner the better.

Although, good point that you raise Blabbyboy about the City Square. I do recall the City Square being redeveloped to a huge degree of fanfare in 1980 when there was a shimmering waterfall fountain across the square (before the city council decided to turn it off); I also remember the big TV screen that tranmitted live TV 24 hours per-day (until they turned that off too). The City Square had a lovely arcade of shops behind the fountains and even had an undeground, leather-clad lounge complete with water falls and an ornate hand-painted ceiling. Yeah, you guessed it, they closed that one too. It had a bright yellow sculpture that everybody felt was unfitting in Melbourne's drab 1970's/80's streets. Oddly, today it is considered a bit of a city icon.

The problem was that the City Council coudn't make money off any of it. It was all originally built with a purpose of creating public space in the city. Oh well, nobility may as well go and take a hike, we must be damned to pay for everything, and at the end of the day, the old City Square (as marvellous as it was when it was built) didn't last because it generated no money for the city. Hence we have one of the ugliest buildings in inner Melbourne in it's place - The Westin Hotel. At least teh Westin is possibly paying it's way because otherwise it will be torn down in 25 years if it isn't.

The original plan Adam was to have the "city square" all the way from Swanston to Russell Sts but because of union bans (thank god) on demolisition of the mighty Regent Theatre it could not be implemented.
Thus we ended up with a half baked mini square that never caught the publics imagination and gradually fell away. The arcade and shops you are refering to were a part of the Plaza Theatre which is also now restored to its original purpose of a banquet hall.

Looks ok from the render:

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Does anyone know or have an estimate when this project will be finished? It would take at least 8-12 months to finish wouldn't it, considering they are starting in November which means they will have hardly any delays, as it will be nice hot dry weather.

they could do it in 2 months easy if they wanted to...

The original plan Adam was to have the "city square" all the way from Swanston to Russell Sts but because of union bans (thank god) on demolisition of the mighty Regent Theatre it could not be implemented.
Thus we ended up with a half baked mini square that never caught the publics imagination and gradually fell away. The arcade and shops you are refering to were a part of the Plaza Theatre which is also now restored to its original purpose of a banquet hall.

The thought of the complete demolition of one of our most significant city blocks as late as the 1980s is scary.

The original city square was horrible. The Vault sculpture, aka the yellow peril, was on the original city square site, and to be honest, it was horrible in that site too. Now, next to the suitably sculptured ACCA, it juxtaposes a period piece of sculpture against one of our best recent architectural works! The City Square described by Adamonline sounds like the DCM version, which I agree was nice, but lifeless and cold. I didn't even know they had a shopping arcade...I hope they did something worthy with all that bluestone though...hehe. I'm just glad that the Plaza ballroom has been done up, and whatever you say about Westin, it brings life to the city and I don't think it's that bad anyway.

Back to Queensbridge square, perhaps it will work after all, with PWC moving in, shops lining the edge of FWP, the apartment dwellers, traffic to/from Southgate/Crown...yes, I can see it working!!! But Sandridge Bridge...bluddy disgraceful, really.

The thought of the complete demolition of one of our most significant city blocks as late as the 1980s is scary.

Back to Queensbridge square, perhaps it will work after all, with PWC moving in, shops lining the edge of FWP, the apartment dwellers, traffic to/from Southgate/Crown...yes, I can see it working!!! But Sandridge Bridge...bluddy disgraceful, really.

Just a little correction Blabby, the buildings on the old City Square site were demolished in the late 1960s not the 1980s and a temporary square was there for almost 10 years before the DCM version was built ~1980.

By the way, I agree with you about Sandridge Bridge. :bash:

[QUOTE=bearbrass]The original plan Adam was to have the "city square" all the way from Swanston to Russell Sts but because of union bans (thank god) on demolisition of the mighty Regent Theatre it could not be implemented.

Well thanks for the credit, it seems we (the unions) did do some good at some point. You would be surprised at how many heritage listed buildings and places were saved by union bans, for light reading, do a yahoo etc on green bans during the 70's. :cheers:

some of those renders, of the ideas look good. the one with the grass is kind of a waste, but would serve as a small park on the river, well above :)
But it will look good once it is done, i cannot wait for 2006... the Comm. Games, melbourne will have changed heaps by then. cannot wait!

I don't understand why anyone would use the redeveloped Sandridge Bridge when it goes no where, the one further down (the triangle one) works very well, and is a reasonable link between Southbank and city (Elizabeth St).

The Sandridge bridge won't work without an excellent conection to the city and I can't see this happening. The whole northbank and Flinders Street station in my opinion needs an overhaul. I do think the square will work, but the bridge is a waste of time without redevelopment to the Northbank.

yes i know what you mean. unless they make somthing very worthwhile on the bridge, or the other side, it will just be another ped bridge, well thats what it is inted for, but there are 2 bridges a few mins walk away. Would be good if there was kind of an arcade on the bridge, with a central strip of grass, kind of like a park/reserve. but then, the bidge is not very wide.

The open space between the bridge and the railway tracks was/is the site for a new skate park. I think it would be a great site for skate park, close to the city, close to existing noise (train lines) and close to public transport.

The open space between the bridge and the railway tracks was/is the site for a new skate park. I think it would be a great site for skate park, close to the city, close to existing noise (train lines) and close to public transport.
Whatever happened to the skate park proposal? I think it's moved to the Alexandra Gardens now - a much better spot IMHO, not near the city where skaters/boarders are more inclined to skate through the city.

Whatever happened to the skate park proposal? I think it's moved to the Alexandra Gardens now - a much better spot IMHO, not near the city where skaters/boarders are more inclined to skate through the city.
I thought the one in the Alexandra Gardens was temporary.

oh, is that one temp? well it has been there for some time now, a few years.
and that one still gets full, so they should just open up another one next to Flinders street. unless they have better plans.

The skate park at QV and the one at Alexandra Gardens were/are temporary.

then they should just make one of the perm. and its all good. and it would save money, seeming you build it, keep it 7 years then take it awy and build another :/

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thanks to Falchoon:

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we need to place bets on whether Price's facade will be complete by Christmas or not ;)

We need to place bets on whether Price's facade will be complete by Christmas or not ;)Is that with or without the corrections? ;)

BTW That is a beautiful pic.

I say, early next year, i guess workers will take say, 3 days off for christmas, maybe 4, and then they will all have hangovers form newyears eve, and then get back to work. i say Jan 15.
Very good place to view southbank scrapers from Richmond/yarra river.

Yeah, is a great pic indeed! And I'm betting that PWC will be externally pretty much complete by years end, but not the facade corrections :(. Oh well, heres to hoping they get it right eventually, and to the new FWP thread :cheers:

Stu

I imagine the facade will be finished quite quickly once the scaffolding comes down.
Looks like its almost completely topped out anyway, if not already

The corrections may take until 2006

...and here's to watching the new 200m+ juggernaut rise from the comfort of my inner-city Sydney living room :) :drunk:I say, early next year, i guess workers will take say, 3 days off for christmas, maybe 4, and then they will all have hangovers form newyears eve, and then get back to work. i say Jan 15.
Very good place to view southbank scrapers from Richmond/yarra river.From memory, Multiplex went back on Jan 15 last festive season.

Now imgaine falchoon's pic with the bridge and the foliage and 3 newer sleek towers completed and glistening. In about 1 1/2 years perhaps. Classic meets nature meets high-tech. So very, very Melbourne :)

^ :banana:

on construction dates: just looked at CFMEU's Vic branch site, they're last day if I'm not mistaken is a few days before Christmas - just like high schools, and they've back on the 9th of Jan? I dunno Favco will be able to clarify, and no Lozza we don't care, don't bother, we've heard it all before, thanks :)

Now imgaine falchoon's pic with the bridge and the foliage and 3 newer sleek towers completed and glistening. In about 1 1/2 years perhaps. Classic meets nature meets high-tech. So very, very Melbourne :)

Amen brother. Rialto makes a nice cameo in that shot too, loving the angle and hopefully someone does get back there when it's all complete!

Stu

yeah Tayser, something like that, haven't had a look at the dates yet myself.

lol We went through this last season CFMEU's date is set but each construction company sets their own holidays around that.

(Which reminds me....I must start Muse's yearly "Coping with the Xmas/New Year break" thread - that's when i contact all the construction comapnies and get the low-down :whisper: )

**BTW Favco750 I you could PM me with any dates that you can retrieve, that would be grand!

lol @ sakor1's "cameo by Rialto".

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Do as Tayser has done and look them up yourself. There is a general break that is industry wide, which encompasses all the major building sites. The backyard blitzes are not usually part of this. Whatever I tell you will be used as fodder anyway.

So don't fret Kush, your house may still be finished for Christmas. How is going anyway??

I can't get individual project/specific construction company holiday dates from the net. No worries, I'll make all the calls necessary.

muse, most construction sites close around Dec20 and go back 2nd or 3rd week of Jan.
thats about it. not much differs.

^ Yes that's true, but when the newbies in particular start moaning....or forumers go out to take pics and get disappointed by no action....

Meh, I'll abandon it then. Saves me heaps of dosh on phone calls across the country.

Anyway, this is starting to clog the FWP thread...

Sorry to deviate of the topic of dates ;) but I just saw on the news that pieces of glass and metal were falling down from a construction site due to todays storms.
They showed images of what looked like a small missing piece of glass on PWC.

Would appear that not only can they not put the glass on in the right order, they don't attach it properly either.

^^^

Ha ha !

Funny Comments Pisstake ! It doesn't suprise me , believe me !

Lozza :bowtie:

Hoh boy. The glaziers on this site are starting to look like the Monty Python of the construction set.

Hope no-one got hurt. Very windy today, and building sites have so much loose materials stored onsite, and the wind can be a big problem, especially on high rise as the jobs have little storage space anyway.

The unseasonal and even seasonal extra strong high winds are a big problem for any building site, that is still U/C. The glass obviously goes in pane by pane. This causes a vacuum on that floor, which can pull glass or other material on or off the building on that floor or even others.

Remember that the liftshafts are just that, the wind comes out of each floor like a cyclone, even if that floor is otherwise complete. No lift car to buffer the wind, no lift doors. The building only becomes truely 100% safe once it is complete, so during the construction phase, most people forget about the safety aspects.

But jobs like this Freshwater Place site are quite large in size and in the amount of material stored on them. Yesterday, most smart foremen would have seen the weather forecast and had their labourers go around last night securing all the loose items.

From what I saw on the news item this morning, it looked like it was only a small piece of glass that covered the floorplate that had come off. They seemed to focus on trees falling on houses and cars in the evening news, didn't see it a second time.

little crane from the top of fwcom has been gone a week.

any recent pix of res tower? last one was 2 weeks ago.lol

Mike Larkan giving the weather report today at 5:55

http://img89.exs.cx/img89/9969/Composite-2004-11-01_17-57-24h1.jpg

lol is that a TV tuner card capture or Digi cam shot of the TV? :)

loks like glen robbins.lol
thanks for snap shot! i counted 24 resi levels above podium, thus lev35/111m + core- lev38\120m?
cheers

That weather guy is the coolest weather guy ever.

I got a few today for you Cul!

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/FWP1.jpg


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The facade looked amazing today! I needed Dan's camera!

^^ Just for The Cul-ster kasperluke!?!

(Fabbo pics there mate :okay: - *scraper construction wanks in a frenzy* http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/jerkin.gif)

Wowser-badowser!!

The 205m 1FWP is going gangbusters. Will it almost reach reach 2SB's height by Xmas/New Year or just after The Season's break mid-January? Time will tell of course.
Loving the sheer flat western side of 1FWP http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/wub.gif

It's definitely going to be one of the best looking apartment buildings in Australia without a doubt!!

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^^ Just for Cul kasperluke!?! (Fabbo pics BTW there mate :okay: )


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Thanks mate.

Well no I was going to go to the city anyway...but i made sure I took them because Cul mentioned it today! hehe :) :)

You're welcome but NO excuses ;)

Anyway, I truly always enjoy your pic posts kl. :)

John

The 205m 1FWP is going gangbusters. Will it almost reach reach 2SB's height by Xmas/New Year or just after The Season's break mid-January? Time will tell of course.
Loving the sheer flat western side of 1FWP http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/wub.gif

It's definitely going to be one of the best looking apartment buildings in Australia without a doubt!!

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Hell yeah, it is looking badass.... and soon the "square" addition on the Eastern side of the tower tops out for that unique insanely thin curved upper summit doesn't it? At what level/ height does that take shape?

Stu

I've always wondered what those five oval shaped 'sheds' are on top of FWP's podium. I read on their website that there are BBQ areas in there somewhere, is this them? Either way this whole development is looking amazing, can't wait for these two babies to be finished. And we still have FWP South and Prima (i know different development) to look forward to next door in the next cycle, can't wait

Uh, anyway, anyone know what those oval thingos are?

part of the landscaping I think - that's the L10 rooftop-podium gardens for everyone - also where the pool and other facilities are except for people who live above L40, their pool, sauna and all around cool shiznitz is L40 (just like there will be two different addresses depending on what part of the tower you're in - Above L40 is 1 Queensbridge Square, and 1 Freshwater Place below L40)

why are there different cycles? why isnt there one never ending cycle, can someone explain this to me please

why are there different cycles? why isnt there one never ending cycle, can someone explain this to me please


$, $, and more $.

I would also love there to be one continual cycle. It would be much easier on all of us suckers who work 7 days a week for two years, and then have to go looking for a new job/career as each cycle stops, only to wait for the next cycle.

That's why cycles annoy me so much.

And because they don't pay any rego and they think they own the road. Try Beach Road b/w South rd and Port Melbourne on any weekend when the temp is over 20, remembering (before the flouro hot pants warriors attack me) that it is the Over Dimensional Truck Route for SE Melb and that Vic Roads tell all OD vehichles which route to take.

Hell yeah, it is looking badass.... and soon the "square" addition on the Eastern side of the tower tops out for that unique insanely thin curved upper summit doesn't it? At what level/ height does that take shape?

Stu

the curved upper summit section or "shoulder' starts at level 48 or 154m high.So about 7m lower then 2SBB.
Current core height is 120m/lev38, so another 10floors yet.
At 25.5m in width, the FWP1 tower will be extemely slender BUT it will also be Australia's WIDEST resi tower at 65m (north/south)- (comparison to Eureka-53m, Q1-51m, WT-51m)

thanks for updates kasper! looks great!

Lol, yeah it's fantastic being one of the slimmest and widest simultaneously :lol:. Thanks for clarifying the heights for me :cheers:

Stu

Just cos I'm a lazy git, has anyone got a render of the finished project?

theres one floating around but colours are all wrong.

http://www.australand.com.au/images/freshwater_intro.jpg

website>
http://www.freshwaterplace.com.au/

So the resi, curved tower is going to be the tallest? Sorry for the dumbass questions guys.

Quote :

( I would also love there to be one continual cycle. It would be much easier on all of us suckers who work 7 days a week for two years, and then have to go looking for a new job/career as each cycle stops, only to wait for the next cycle. ) :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Please , i think i am going to throw up ! Especially the 7 days a week thing !! :puke: :puke: :puke:

Lozza :bowtie:

So the resi, curved tower is going to be the tallest? Sorry for the dumbass questions guys.
yes. theres was a twin to its right but this will be now mixed use and 162m tall and delayed until next cycle.. The 2SBB is to left of FWP1 and is 161m and nearly complete.

lozza lozza lozza

i work in domestic construction when not at uni, if i choose to i can work seven days per week if i want the money, but when there's no work for a sustained period of time i either sit on my arse or get another source of income. favco's no different, just on a larger scale

if you understood favco's job you'ld realize crane riggers and the like have a shitty job compared to the stock-standard construction worker in terms of work hours. they're generally onsite and on the cranes outside normal construction hours so the crane's always ready to go mon-sat. i've seen more cranes go up/down on sunday than any other day. i have a good friend who's a crane driver and he works many a sunday when necessary, there's enough of them around so when good times are prevalent, you take the work regardless or run the risk of being replaced by someone who will

we all know the CFMEU gets their workers an easy ride, i dont like it and i bet the majority of forumers dont like it either, but hey its not favco's fault. basically lozz stop pushing the anti-union theme, eventually you'll figure out its akin to pushing shit up a hill with a stick

I agree with your union sentiments Loz but the fact is, despite it all, Melbourne is still rocking on with Australia's most significant infrastructure, residential and commercial building projects and the resistance the CFMEU and others are putting up to that doesn't amount to a hill of beans - for the most part. (Spencer St. Station is a notable exception). I don't know about you but I prefer to get a bee in my bonnet about things I can actually change.

Blue

At 25.5m in width, the FWP1 tower will be extemely slender BUT it will also be Australia's WIDEST resi tower at 65m (north/south)- (comparison to Eureka-53m, Q1-51m, WT-51m)



Anyone know how wide QV resi is?

Silver, Silver, Silver hehe !

It's nothing personal against Favco, believe me, and its not Favco's fault either- I think you know me better than that. But in all seriousness, his 7 days work a week comment is that laughable its beyond a joke !!!!! CFMEU Workers wouldn't work in an Iron Lung !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

i know its not personal lozz but you need to differentiate between union (who are the mugs) and individual, they cant all be tarred with the same brush. most workers dont work seven day weeks but some do

yeah , i know Silver, but my gripe all along has been with the Unions , not with Favco ! it just shits me when Favco Sticks up for the Terds !

So Favco, if you work 7 days a week , then i respect that. But you are in the minority, believe me. Most of the other tossers would be lucky to work 7 days a year !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

I don't see how some people working 7 days weeks is evidence at all, it happens in every industry and job position, I've done it before for months.
The point is irrelevant, working after hours, overtime & over weekends are a part of employment in general

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/southbank/fwp/fwp0311041.jpg

Do people look at you funny if you take pictures from the train?

*shrug* I don't notice them if they do - f*ck em anyhow lol :)

Do people look at you funny if you take pictures from the train?
i used to be paranoid but hey its not more embarassing them taking a phone call on the train. i find that more embarrasing.lol
if they stare at you turn the cam towards them and say "smile". :)

if they stare at you turn the cam towards them and say "smile". :)

Lol, I've actually done that once....

Stu

Silver, Silver, Silver hehe !

It's nothing personal against Favco, believe me, and its not Favco's fault either- I think you know me better than that. But in all seriousness, his 7 days work a week comment is that laughable its beyond a joke !!!!! CFMEU Workers wouldn't work in an Iron Lung !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Hey Lozza, try and suprise me with something I don't know. :bash:

How did the crane disappear from the top of FWP?? Sure as shit didn't happen during the week.

I'm sick of all this shit anyway. I couldn't give two flying flicks what you or your mates think. I sure as hell don't think I need to stick up for the dregs of any group or association when they seem to be so capable of making their own way through the day and can justify to themselves that they earnt their beer at the end of the day. Ha, what a flicking joke!!

I just think as silver points out, there is a small group of men who do work 7 days a week in this city, and unless you tried to drive around a corner where we were, you wouldn't notice anyway cause your head is so far..........

Do people look at you funny if you take pictures from the train?

YES. They do. When I first started taking photos in the early 80's (Geez, I'm old) I would do stuff like stand in the middle of a street, stand on a bench, lie on the ground with camera pointing skywards - anything to get that perfect shot. People would give me funny looks but only one ever said anything. A woman of about 50 asked me if I was OK as I lay flat out on the Collins Street pavement.

I just pretended to be a French tourist and did the complete accent. Damn woman spoke fluent French!!

Cheers,

Adam

Tayser, i like the veiw from the train bridge over the yarra, always wanted to take a picture form there, but not on a train, moves to fast, a few pictures, normal, and zoomed.

^^^ Yawn ^^^ :bash: :wallbash:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic232.jpg


similar photo posted a while ago but heh ive been to busy and its not over for another week :(

Now this is where your talents lie plotstyle; in taking pick-tyures.

7 mistakes on that bloody facade!

I count 7. Possibly an 8th but it's in the shade.

Yet still one of the best facades going up in Australia at the moment imo.

I see 8 definites with a couple more possibles, but as Tony says, I think it's a very cool and different facade for an office tower - looks especially effective with the horizontal stripes of Eureka in the background! :)

maybe they're intentional and the glaziers are watching this forum and having a good old laugh about it?

:)

maybe they're intentional and the glaziers are watching this forum and having a good old laugh about it?

:)

Wouldn't put it past the old bastards :lol:

I can count at least 7 mistakes, 8 if I split one lecause it is actually two panels next to each other out of place ;)

Stu

I count a definite 8 mistakes, more if you include the individual panels
Its kinda like a spot the difference picture in the newspaper

I counr 8, maybe 9.

similar photo posted a while ago but heh ive been to busy and its not over for another week :(

Great looking facade.

fixed

http://img100.exs.cx/img100/8748/mypic232.jpg

Ha ha ha!!!!

Yipeee

The facade fixed!

Someone at the construction site must sneak around these forums, but see the black stripe, at the edge near the corner (right hand side) it stops, does the black line go around the building, or only that side?

Missed one on the right edge

Missed one on the right edge

yep, and one near where the crane changes colour...
arent we fussy eheh

;)

http://img126.exs.cx/img126/8748/mypic232.jpg

^^^ Yawn ^^^ :bash: :wallbash:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:


Noticed in my travels around the world tonight that you might not be so lonely anymore.

I will give you an example of construction justice Lozza. Spin the wheel, make a deal.

If it rains tomorrow in the morning and the cranes don't move and the iron lungers go home, You can continue with the "yawn" but if more than 25% of the cranes in town are pumping out black smoke, well then that's it, no more, the roof is on and shows over.

deal???? :cheers:

Its good to see that Melbourne has provided us with fine sunny day today my old friend Fav ! :righton:

PS~ Geez, they sure fixed up the glass mistakes on Freshwater Office pretty bloody quick ! Wonders will never cease ! :rock:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

that pic of freshwater place thats the entrance i went through to acess the building most odf the builders are bluggers we were gonna shoot a video and the workers didnt have their hard hats on so we forced them to put it on

^^^ Its good to see that someone else around here also acknowledges the work ethic ( or lack of work for that matter ) at Victorian Construction Sites !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

The sun shone all day, black smoke billowed from every crane in town, A Brain's back and we had a deal! :cheers1:

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-11-10%20Melbourne%20-%20Construction%20updates%20from%20Rialto/IMG_1595.jpg

They are stating to make the garden on the podium roof.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2004-11-10%20Melbourne%20-%20Construction%20updates%20from%20Rialto/IMG_1596.jpg

wow, nice clear pix. the rooftop podium is interesting. a kind of oasis in centre of CBD for the inhabitants? lol
its views would be incredible. you would be able to see Eureka & 2SSb + sheer wall of FWp1. not to mention the CBD to the north.

WOW !

Garden looks cool !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Nice zoom, You can even see Jamie Durie getting stuck into that instant turf :-)

That's quite a good idea actually, getting a bit of greenery in amongst all the concrete. Would be quite an experience, the view from that garden, as Cul said, not often do you get to be in a garden and in view of scrapers next to you as well!

Looks like Queens Bridge Square is also going full steam ahead too. Pitty I can't say the same about the Sandridge Rail Bridge, still no action there :(

^It looks like they've removed the deck of the Sandridge Bridge, leaving just the cross-beams (?). You can see through to the water now, I don't recall it being like that last time I was in the city.

what will become of these bridges? are they being removed? or made good for walk bridge maybe? that would be cool!

^It looks like they've removed the deck of the Sandridge Bridge, leaving just the cross-beams (?). You can see through to the water now, I don't recall it being like that last time I was in the city.

Its been like that for years as far as I know. To stop vandalism I would imagine.

They started the bridge in July however they have done next to nothing! You can on the southern side where they have started they have dug heaps of stuff up and there are some huts...but other then that they have done nothing along the bridge.

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/southbank/fwp/fwp1011041.jpg

Yeah, garden starting to look nice. Seems they are gonna put flowerbeds/ lawn on the top of the 'sheds' as well.

Stu

^It looks like they've removed the deck of the Sandridge Bridge, leaving just the cross-beams (?). You can see through to the water now, I don't recall it being like that last time I was in the city.
Its been like that for a few (3 - 4) months now.

The SB underwent an asbestos removal program by Able Demolitions, thats all that has been done so far.

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but they have started painting the concrete wall on the western side of FWP1. Doesn't look Too bad.

Tenders have been called by the City of Melbourne for the Refurbishment and Upgrade of the Sandridge Railway Bridge. The works involved include elements of sandblasting, repainting, structural steel, concreting, lighting and hydraulics works. Tenders close 14 December 2004.

Yipeeeee. :D

About time!

Tenders have been called by the City of Melbourne for the Refurbishment and Upgrade of the Sandridge Railway Bridge. The works involved include elements of sandblasting, repainting, structural steel, concreting, lighting and hydraulics works. Tenders close 14 December 2004.

Yipeeeee. :D

About time!

Yeah about freakin time lets hope it comes up ok.

Status Report:

Queensbridge Square:
Stage 1 construction has commenced and is scheduled for completion in early 2005; Stage 2 is to be completed after Multiplex has vacated the adjacent construction site in
December 2005;

Sandridge Bridge:
Planning Permit October-November 2004
Tenders Invited November 2004
Award Contract December 2004
Construction January 2005 – December 2005

The schematic design for the Bridge includes glass screens along the centre section of the Bridge. Mr Les Erdi, a Melbourne businessman, has provided written confirmation that he will underwrite $500,000 for a series of glass panels along the length of the Bridge between the two rail corridors. The screens will be etched or sandblasted with references to the history of immigration into Australia. This element will be included in the construction works, subject to confirmation of funding from Mr Erdi.

Northbank Youth Precinct:
Planning Permit November 2004
Tenders Invited January/February 2005
Award Contract March 2005
Construction April 2005 – December 2005

The design includes: pedestrian connection to the Sandridge Bridge; an open space, for performances, events and multimedia with the necessary infrastructure for youth-based activities; and adequate security and fencing associated with the adjacent rail yards.

The concept for the site includes an administration/kiosk/utilities building as a commercial development of the existing former signal box. However, refurbishment of the former signal box (substantially damaged by fire) has not been included in the scope of works, as the cost of refurbishment is beyond the available budget.

What little remains of that signal box shoudl be demolished. There is nothing left worth preserving. But I am glad to see this area being redeveloped, a little slow for my liking, but at least its happening!

What little remains of that signal box shoudl be demolished. There is nothing left worth preserving. But I am glad to see this area being redeveloped, a little slow for my liking, but at least its happening!
Agree with that. In fact, the signal box looks rather good in its present (dilapitated and overgrown) state. It could be used as a bird nesting place, and trees should be planted inside so that it looks like nature has reclaimed the structure. Sorta like a mock Angkor Wat. muahahahah!

Question: are the glass panels going to form a "floor" that people will walk on between the two parts of the Sandridge Bridge? If so, that is coolness itself. Or will the glass screens stand vertically like the pedobridge next to the King St bridge?

What little remains of that signal box shoudl be demolished. There is nothing left worth preserving. But I am glad to see this area being redeveloped, a little slow for my liking, but at least its happening!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/flindersstreeta.jpg

young Yardmaster at work (back to us)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/flindersstreeta-f.jpg

Blabbyboy, they are screens so they will be upright as the word suggests.

Bronte's back :)

next to freshwater place theres another freshwater place right isnt that the second tower?

it's a tri-tower development, there's still one to come which will probably be on the market by the time the Comm. Games roll around - either office, residential or a mixture.

third tower will rise to the right of 1FWP (residential tower in foreground) where there's a series of huts and equipment in this pic by kasper:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/FWP2.jpg

the 3rd and final tower will be mixed -office and resi.spoke to Australand a while back. it will be 45storeys /162m.same floor plan as first FWP.scheduled to commence 2006/7.

Looking at that pic above, you can see plenty of action around the new Queens Bridge Square. Stage 1 to be completed early in the new year! Yipeeee

Crane on FWP Resi closest to the river installed a tie, 5th one up above the podium deck. Towers down on the ground, may climb tomorrow, if not, during the week.

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/1658/n22017.jpg

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/4125/n22016.jpg

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9407/n22014.jpg

lol - it really is the mother of all podiums.

well, the melburnian also has a large podium, and when you think about it, so does melb central! but what about that blank wall up against QBH?

yes, horrible, but screaming for some advertising - I'd be interested to know how much that amount of space could be leased in the interim before they demo QBH.

Just a quick Southbank money shot:

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/5874/bla001.jpg

all lined up very nicely :P

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9407/n22014.jpg

C'mon, let's all chuck in a few bucks to buy some curtain material to whip up something to cover up that concrete slab!

Burke's Backyard's final episode could be " Making a faux-rock face for a skyscraper".

Jamie Durie's not doing an awful lot these days.

Any decorating suggestions for this blank palette?

Cheers,

Adam - at least put up a print.

6 Meg WMV:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/driveby.jpg (http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/kingswaydriveby.WMV)

:banana:

Just incase we have forgotton what FWP looks like... :P

http://homepage.mac.com/jbadcock/Melbourne/misc/fwp_231104.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/jbadcock/Melbourne/misc/fwp.jpg

What the hell is being built next to the podium there? Stairs :? Or is it just some temp structure?

What the hell is being built next to the podium there? Stairs :? Or is it just some temp structure?

I believe it's a terrace or amphitheatre as part of the new square. The car entrance to the crown is underneith.

is this render right ? It doesnt look 206m tall but when compared to 140m crown i guess it does.
anyway the retail areas sound very cool.

Euro Bar leases at Freshwater Place
By News Desk
Nov 26, 2004 Email this article

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_21/300/CJ_21_17222_10768.jpg
Australand’s $750 million Freshwater Place on the banks of the Yarra next to Southgate is beginning to take shape with its village retail concept almost 100% leased.
Today, Australand announced that high profile leisure company APHM has opted to take out a major 500 sqm of space at Freshwater Place overlooking the soon to be completed Queensbridge Square.
This space will be home to Euro bar the brainchild of APHM directors Andrew Spinks & David Turner.
The Euro Bar will make the best use of its virtual Yarra River frontage with four concepts within one unique package.
APHM, which manages the Iririki Resort in Vanuatu as well as the highly successful Watermark Bar at Victoria Harbour and Scusami Ristorante at Southbank, will bring to Freshwater Place possibly the most unique bar concept ever seen in Melbourne.
Euro bar will offer a cosmopolitan bar; a major alfresco outdoor bar and dining concept and an upmarket lounge space, available for private bookings.
According to Australand’s general manager apartments (Victoria) Robert Pradolin, APHM’s Euro Bar is totally inline with the original concept of Freshwater Place of creating a European urban village.
“Euro Bar will look out onto both the new Queensbridge Square and the Yarra,” Pradolin said. “It will offer Melbourne yet another first in leading edge design and bar concepts.”
Euro Bar will have a capacity of around 300 people within its three conceptualised space.
Euro Bar will have an “all-day” menu boasting Victoria’s finest and freshes produce with classical European plates with a “contemporary twist”, according to APHM managing director, Andrew Spinks.
Freshwater Place has passing foot traffic of around 50,000 on weekends.
Pradolin concluded that the Village concept at Freshwater Place involves traditional services such as a Village grocer, chemist, doctor and dentist as well as the finest in restaurants and cafes, such as the Euro Bar.
APHM will use TM Design Group to create the visual impact at Euro Bar, which is expected to open in April 2005.
Pradolin said another major Melbourne restaurant operator will also soon be announced at Freshwater Place.

sure looks 205m. remember its 198m to main roof. the plantroom takes it to 205m.
the top section with curved glass will look good.

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_21/300/CJ_21_17222_10768.jpg


:eek2: NOOOOICE!

C'mon, let's all chuck in a few bucks to buy some curtain material to whip up something to cover up that concrete slab!

Any decorating suggestions for this blank palette?

Cheers,

Adam - at least put up a print.A few bucks? lol *slaps thigh with laughter*

A mural would be sweet.

However, I hope they yoink down that silly 3 storey job next to it (or @ least keep the facade as it seems to have a nice parapet atop). It might be heritage listed though. Also the rather non-descript shorty to its right wouldn't be missed.

If so on the b4 mentioned, a structure of similar height backing onto the blank wall would/could/should be the go.

Usually blank walls like that eventually go.

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/4390/PB272798.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/6931/PB272790.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/1203/PB272776.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/7096/PB272782.jpg

Top notch shots! The first and last ones in particular are fantastic.

Stu

Good shots I think this is the sleeper highrise in melbourne most ppl wouldnt know how big this project is.

Fantastic shots!

Just what role did H*rry Seidler have to play in the concrete wall of Freshwater Place Residential?

Cheers,

Adam

I do not understand why people complain about blank walls. If they had windows on that blank wall, the adjacent developemnt woudl have to be set back to allow light into the windows. At least this blank will is a little interesting! And can be covered over by another podum next door.

yes i agree steve! nothing wrong with blank walls. some times you cant get away with having blanks in the design. Australand were probably "ordered" or not permitted to have windows on that face, duu to sharing common boundary with adjacent site. simple explanation!

PwC finished but for the interiors, think all the BH workers are heading to the Alfred expansion now this is done?

check out the second top floor, big plant level
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/fwp200412.jpg

phwoar - that's awesome zoom, taken near Collins St in Docklands?

My turn, from yesterday:

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/December/fwp.jpg

http://stuart.kortum.com.au/photos/albums/December/car2.jpg

Stu

bring on the Price signage :rock:

http://www.pwc.com/images/topnav/logo.gif

nice angles. its now lev40 in core or 130m above grd.

bring on the Price signage :rock:

http://www.pwc.com/images/topnav/logo.gif

And REALLY light it up at night!

Cheers,

Adam

Now if we could just remove that blight in the foreground....

I don't actually mind the "blight" as you put it. Sure the colours may be a bit off but aesthetically from many angles it does the job for me. Just my opinion...

Stu

Level 40 exposed as of Friday arvo, nice big fluoro pink numbering, but only visible from up high.

Just a question about the concrete grid on the facade of Freshwater Residential. Is it going to be painted or will it stay that raw colour. It makes the facade look a bit 60s or something. Would look better if it was all dark.

yes it'll be painted soon enough

there's a third tower crane set up atop PwC, looks about 1/3 the size of the other cranes and folds up when complete, something different?

that picture that sakor1 took of Eureka and Freshwater is going to look excellent when its done once there all complete i hope someone takes a photo of that for my collection cheers

I'm definately going to go back and take a completed pic from that angle, it's one of my faves as well. I'll post it up here of course.

Stu

yes it'll be painted soon enough

there's a third tower crane set up atop PwC, looks about 1/3 the size of the other cranes and folds up when complete, something different?


Anyone got a picture of this??? Folds up???

want to get a better shot this weekend, this will do for now. like i said when the jibs up, about 1/3 the size of the others. doesn't seem to be a visible cabin either

jib down in shit weather
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/fwp2004121.jpg

the red one? thats a pump, for the cement, one of Eureka as well, you see them pouring everynow and again.

yeah drunkill ive been around the block once or twice :naughty:

the red one's a MX28 placement boom for concrete. im talking about the device left of the pump on PwC's roof, painted in Baulterstone Hornibrook's green/red/white. dont know why the need it up there when there's two cranes basically idle until they climb down???

like i said if its there on the weekend, ill get a photo

Hehehe I didn't think it was like you to make that mistake silvermb.

mmmmmm very interesting, i'm stumped as well. It maybe some sort of Derrick Crane involved with the lifts??? Maybe for getting lifts up and running?? But it is hard to see.

There is no doubt that you are the King Silver. Nothing escapes your eagle eye!!! :master:

70 grand for a volvo - pfft! the second pic goes well, all 6 buildings in shot are pretty slick!
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/fwp20041218.jpg

all seven building between fwp and eureka weren't there two years ago, not bad going. thats the best i'll get of the mini-crane
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/fwp200412181.jpg

My monies on the derrick's there to pull down 1 if not both tower cranes,save alot of time,Just a thought.???

Yeah Maybe, but it looks to be in the middle of the roof right above the lift shaft. If it was there to pull the 310's down, I would've thought it would be more closer to the edge of the building and more closer to the last crane that gets pulled down?? I'm stumped still.

Just a few more pics from today...

http://img145.exs.cx/img145/5484/fwp22gn.jpg

http://img145.exs.cx/img145/7990/fwp8kd.jpg

Time for a bit of reflection,

this was taken whilst I was working at UCMS / 452 Flinders activating the moccie brigade's pre-paid mobile phones on Boxing Day 2003:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/dump/boxingdaypano.jpg

Eureka looked so stumpy back then.

FWP still does :(

Awwwwww, Eureka looks so cute :)

Stu

back then every one was saying eureka is looking huge and look at it now

thanks for the memories Tayser, FWP with 6 cranes :)

Look at that mess of glass panels on the FW facade!!!!

3 January 2005:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/ozfrog/pics/melbourne/nye2004/MLNA0022.jpg

one of the cranes on fwp comm is coming down right now.

Blurrsville. Population, me.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2005-01-11%20Melbourne%20-%20Under%20the%20Bolte/IMG_5413.jpg

A little to the right Dan ;)

yeah, sif not get centred, it's a tram, not a train, it'll stop if you're in the way ;)

nice work though.

one of the cranes on fwp comm is coming down right now.
Is it climbing down or are they using the stiff leg.???

wash me please

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/fwp200501.jpg

A few more from today:

http://img17.exs.cx/img17/9491/fwp11xx.jpg

http://img17.exs.cx/img17/9322/fwp24ot.jpg

Nice set of pics silvermb. Great angles.

wonderful pics salamagd!! :eek:

I'm really liking PWC. It's such an unsually shaped building.

:okay:

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Just wanted to express my sheer joy that Melbourne is really jumping ahead in leap and bounds. Love this city ! We've got South Bank taking off with FRESHWATER, Eureka and soon Prima. Then theres Docklands, the FANTASTIC Spencer Street station re-development (Southern Cross Station) and all the East End rises plus northern end Verve and Milano. Just great to see so much development going on !! Would be great to see an areal shot with all develpments pointed out.

Anyway this is a freshwater Place thread - Go freshwater Place !

Is it climbing down or are they using the stiff leg.???

Check out silver's 1st and 3rd photo, stiff leg it is.

The boom was dual plucked with the other 310, the deck was split and the drum was taken out of the power pack so the SL could get it.

Is it just me or do others also think that the PWC Tower looks a lot like Sydney's 1962 26 storey AMP Tower? :?

PWC H-shaped yet the eastern elevation rises higher than the western. Slighty curved in sections.

The AMP Bulding has an H-shaped footprint yet with a curved northern facade. Glasswork panels are gold in colour.

Maybe just the H floor plan and the transparent glass where panels are visible...

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=108074

Is it just me or do others also think that the PWC Tower looks a lot like Sydney's 1962 26 storey AMP Tower? :?
hey theres nothing wrong with that! AMP is still one of Sydney;s finest skyscrapers! the 2sbb is a charcoal colour? i dont mind it

Is it climbing down or are they using the stiff leg.???

whats a stiff leg?

Hi all, I'm back - happy new year 2005.

Marko, I'll bring the sponges and a bucket of water.

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great pix hack. looks like lev40 floor plate and 42 in core. thats approx 135m high or equal with Adelaides Santos House!
looks like FWP1 will be next scraper in Australia to reach magic 150m/500ft mark! when lev47 is reached.

not long until Price's signage is up I'd say --> :banana:

btw, 2SB is, I think, the tower which most looks like its renders.

whats a stiff leg?
bung knee

Once again top pics Hacksaw...so crystal clear!! http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/wub.gif

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/fwp small.jpg

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/fwp rail bridge small.jpg

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/fwp 2.jpg

^^^

WHAT A KICK ARSE COMPLEX ! It Rocks ! :rock:

CHEERS

LOZZA !

Walking past it going from Southgate to Crown it is just like a massive wall of skyscraper rising up from a gigantic podium it looks so dark and huge it has an almost menacing presence. Yet from across the river, directly in front the towers, they look very thin and tall and the first residential has only reached two thirds of it's final height and the third tower is yet to start construction!!!

it's all good. but if the third tower (2nd resitower) is going to be shorter, then i'd prefer a different but complementary design.

If Eureka wasn't being built at the same time as FWP it would be getting most of the attention, its still a very good project and when Prima is added that part of Southbank will rival anywhere as skyscraper heaven.

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From today.

whats a stiff leg?

It is a crane, but different to the normal working tower cranes. If you have a look at Hacksaws ace photo's on the previous page, photos 2 & 3 show the tip of it sticking out from the building, above the gaps in the glass where the ties from the tower crane were.

The stiff leg was used to dismantle the favco tower crane at height instead of climbing it down. To get it down to a height where it could have been dismantled by a mobile crane from the street would have taken more than a week, whereas the stiff leg dropped it all in four days, whilst still being able to be utilised for other general lifts as needed.

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Work around the square
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2005-01-24%20Melbourne%20-%20DocklandsRialto%20Construction/IMG_5530.jpg

corey
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2005-01-24%20Melbourne%20-%20DocklandsRialto%20Construction/IMG_5526.jpg

god thats a thin core. great close ups dan!

I am certain that Queens Bridge Sq will be used a great deal, dare I say, almost as much as Fed Sq!

Hoorah! Finally starting on the Square.

Which design have they finalised for it? Hope it's not "dumbed down" from the funky design entrants.

Thanks for sharing the pix guys.

yeah it is kinda dumbed down but most the proposals were quiet lame you should be able to find the plan on the city of melbourne website

it's dumbed down compared to Fed Square, but I think it's perfect for the locale. I'm still a bit iffy on the rail bridge, ithe whole area is so far beyond how it used to be used that I dont really see much heritage value, I mean Crown now sits on top of the old rail lines, there's only one platform left at FSS that used to serve St. Kilda and Port Melbourne and the old bridge is just going to sit there with its massive sides blotting out the Yarra vista. bleh!

http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/CA25677D007DC87D/LUbyDesc/UD-qb1/$File/UD-qb1.jpg http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/CA25677D007DC87D/LUbyDesc/UD-qb2/$File/UD-qb2.jpg

basically an open space + amphitheatre + Freshwater Retail. I too can see it being used a lot too.

the new pedo bridge would be welcomed though, I noticed that the Southbank bridge (opposite Sheraton, oh sorry, Langham!, access road / Eureka car park) needs a lot of work, they need to get rid of those grip coated wooden planks, almost tripped over one that came loose today!

put yer hands together for the Langham:

http://thehoddlegrid.net/dump/langhamwtf.jpg

:wtf:

Thanks for posting the Queens Square impressions tayser. Looks nice 'n spacious and I'm sure they'll use good materials like granite tiles.

LOL @ the people sitting on the pinkish ramp soaking up the 40C afternoon sun! I see it's already being put into place in Dan-bo's first pic.

As far as the rebranded Sheraton, this wanky propaganda explains: Langham Hotels (http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2004_4th/Dec04_LanghamMelbourne.html)

that camera amazes me....

Ive never thought that the Sheraton now Langham Hotel was THAT good maybe 4.5 stars.

The Langham Hotel, Melbourne (1 January 2005) offers iconic city views from its setting on the Southbank Promenade. Overlooking the tranquil Yarra River across to the drama of Federation Square, it is in the heart of the City's leading al fresco café, restaurants and shopping precinct.

"In 2003, The Hotel was ranked in the top 10 of "The World's Best Hotels" by the prestigious US travel magazine, Travel & Leisure."

Smae happened to me last wek Tayser! I might give the MCC a call tomorrow before the Council gets sued by some dopey Yank tourist.

The new Langham is a wonderful hotel. Very beautiful inside and amazing views over Melbourne.

Is Burnadette still busking on that corner? (Re: 'work around the square' photo) It's been two years since I've walked down Southbank..

Last time I was there she still was, only a fortnight ago.

Stu

Langham Logo in the centre is nice but did that have to put that tacky name sign on the side. The Sheraton now Langham is no longer a five star, checked with MCVB but is now aimed at a slightly higher end tourist market which is probably better for the location. Sheraton also dumped their Brisbane property. I'm sure Sheraton will re-appear in Melbourne though pending the convention centre outcome.

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