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Küsel October 25th, 2004, 10:14 PM Aarau, my birthcity:
http://www.telli-quartier.ch/Bilder_TE/Quartier_Ueberblick.jpg
Bern:
http://bern-buempliz.lions-w.ch/Buempliz-center.gifhttp://www.vbgbern.ch/ima/tscharniHoch.jpg
Zürich:
http://www.bkg.ch/dienstleistungen/lochergut_foto.jpg
http://www.loeligerstrub.ch/bilder/hardaugr1.jpg
And the most extreme - Geneva:
http://www.protestant.ch/enpg/enpg_web.nsf/0/4de543307a4d2301c1256d6f00356d49/Body/0.38C?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg
http://wwwedu.ge.ch/co/renard/ft2gb/lignon03.JPG
Kommentare October 26th, 2004, 12:21 PM Those look even more depressive than Eastern European ones...I like it...
Küsel October 26th, 2004, 12:50 PM Because you wouldn't expect it and they are mosly door-to-door with lovley old town centers... Switzerland is boring from the architectual point of view - we have some of the best architects since the 16th century but they all had to build in Italy, Spain, France, the US, England - and just now the Olympic stadions in Beijing - but here we have too much restriction and laws, it's very hard to get through with good buildings :(
Lindemann October 27th, 2004, 12:05 PM Great commies, man. :runaway:
Küsel October 27th, 2004, 12:36 PM These I just took recently. It's a suburb of Zurich, close to where I live. Under the blocks is the oldest shopping mall of Switzerland and one of the biggest. Spreitenbach, this town, was concepted in teh 50s after the model of the New Towns in London for 30-50k people, before there was only some farms there. Fortunatly the project didn't work out properly and a city of only 10k grew up, all blocks like that more or less.
http://www.socio.ch/maro/images/DSC03695.jpg
http://www.socio.ch/maro/images/DSC03694.jpg
Nowadays they dodn't build these high commieblocks anymore in Switzerland, but the problem is the small blocks and houses that agglomerate all cities together like a cancer (we only have 15'000 km2 that are not mountains or lakes, and the whole pop of 7.5mio lives there - not to mention the holliday and weekend houses, hotels etc...)
NorthStar77 October 28th, 2004, 11:39 AM Wow, even Switzerland have them, I didn't imagine that:) But most people will probably not imagine that we have them here in Norway also.
Küsel November 11th, 2004, 12:00 AM The wife of a friend of mine comes from Novosibirsk. She's now living in Switzerland and said that nobody in Russia would belive it when she tells them how we live... because everyone knows only the old towns and chalets in the mountains. There's nobody living there :)
Norway: I remember Bergen. I took a walk to the wooden church but it was burnt down when I arrived :( Anyway the way was all through a huge commieblock area on the hills.
Dziki REX November 16th, 2004, 12:28 AM Wonderful. It brings back my faith of Switzerland. :D
OthmarHaas November 21st, 2004, 07:38 PM Hallo,
habe gar nicht gewußt daß es in der Schweiz auch Kommunalblocks gibt, wirklich-
zumindest nicht in der kompakten Form. Hätte eher auf niedriggeschossige (sechs-
bis achtgeschossige) in aufgelockerter Form gestalteter "Gartensiedlungen"
gedacht !?
Grüße aus Wien..
Küsel November 22nd, 2004, 10:07 AM Hallo,
habe gar nicht gewußt daß es in der Schweiz auch Kommunalblocks gibt, wirklich-
zumindest nicht in der kompakten Form. Hätte eher auf niedriggeschossige (sechs-
bis achtgeschossige) in aufgelockerter Form gestalteter "Gartensiedlungen"
gedacht !?
Grüße aus Wien..
Die gibt es, wurden v.a. zwischen 1880 und 1940 erbaut und waren 3 bis 6 stöckig. Aber in the 60ern und 70ern gab es leider auch eine andere Phase... da wollte man hoch hinaus. In den 80ern baute man wieder eher diese Gartensiedlungen und heute...
http://www.spseen.ch/bilder/zuerich%20nord/zuerich%20nord%2017.jpg
http://www.andreaspark.ch/elemente/bilder/stadtwohnungen/vis_park_290.jpg
Zaqattaq January 30th, 2005, 02:55 AM Are these expensive to live in though?
Küsel January 30th, 2005, 12:29 PM Every flat in bigger cities here are extremly expensive. These modern flats as shown above are quite new and I guess you have to count with about 1500-2000 Euro per month. The blocks posted at the beginning are in fact for poorer people, supported by the state and were built as that in the 60s and 70s. In these Geneva blocks live 120 different nations... But a lot of these old commieblocks went through big restauration phases (architectural and social) in the last 10 years.
Zaqattaq January 30th, 2005, 06:32 PM So the first group are Swiss projects?
Küsel January 31st, 2005, 12:21 PM ...they're are all Swiss projects... we have a lot of good architects (and always had, but they have to work mostly abroad) but ugly architecture :(
Impf February 9th, 2005, 07:58 AM South CH has none of these, unless you count med-style midrise condos around Lugano/Maggiore. But then the North does have most of the population/industry not to mention the dreary weather necessary to properly dramatize an evil commie block.:D
Küsel February 9th, 2005, 11:26 PM :) :) :)
But Chiasso is also not a beauty - but as you said, I wouldn't call them commieblocks ;)
GENIUS LOCI February 10th, 2005, 01:27 AM Chiasso?...
Yes, I remember... the most remarkable building I think is Migros one :).... :runaway:
Kuvvaci February 10th, 2005, 04:21 AM These are not commie blocks, these are the houses of the future...
Impf February 10th, 2005, 04:47 AM ^Not in Switzerland. Such housing is widely considered a "mistake" in the country- one not to be repeated. Ironic since Le Corbusier was a Swiss, and the most influential architect of this "towers in a park" movement- which ultimately led to the dreary commie block.
Global society today generally recognizes such complexes as vast failures- no matter where built. Yet the formula is still in use in places where housing demand trumps reason, wealth and urban planning.
Küsel February 10th, 2005, 12:55 PM Another influence was the New Towns project in London and Amsterdam: go out of the city, some 10 or 20km from its borders and build some artificial park cities. Fortunatly most of these projects never have been realized or only a small part of them. Unfortunatly this part was the "living" section - working, relaxations, shopping and other basic human functions as Corbusier wanted in his functional theories (Club of Rome etc) have mostly been ignored and the cities became dead sleeping towns...
On the other side the result is that the Swiss Midlands are one big overbuilt area where one city reaches into the other. Example:
Neuenhof (down), 8000pop belongs to the agglomeration Zurich, Wettingen (up, on the other side of the river) 19000pop belongs to agglomeration Baden!!!! It's not only two cities, you also can see how difficult it is to divide the agglos. That's why there is the Metro definition in which Baden is part of Zurich - it's more logical.
http://www.immobil-gelegenheit.ch/immo_bilder/2129/map-neuenhof-2.jpg
Küsel February 10th, 2005, 01:01 PM For the people it doesn't make a difference I guess, it looks all like this:
http://www.concretag.ch/referenzen/mfh_wettingen_baden.jpg
♣628.finst April 29th, 2007, 10:02 AM These are not commie blocks, these are the houses of the future...
^^ Exactly. That's why Zuerich has Spreitenbach and Geneva has Le Lignon! They both look like a great place to live. It's a pity that Western Europeans and North Americans making them a dumping ground of the society.
♣628.finst April 29th, 2007, 10:04 AM For the people it doesn't make a difference I guess, it looks all like this:
http://www.concretag.ch/referenzen/mfh_wettingen_baden.jpg
These are the "classical" commieblocks. :( Almost an eyesore.
cezarsab May 25th, 2007, 06:29 PM did you call this commie blocks!!!!:nuts:
if there aer commie blocks ours what do u call them!!!
pre-commie block!!!:lol:
Blok May 25th, 2007, 08:28 PM pre-commie block!!
Why pre-:dunno:
cezarsab May 26th, 2007, 10:10 AM pre commie= worst than a normal commie block
you know with time everything develpe
pre=past so i meant old commie!
BL May 26th, 2007, 02:47 PM that in switzerland is clasical commie
Blok May 26th, 2007, 02:57 PM That's what I thought but this Swiss commies are propably just as old as Romanian ones ...
Küsel June 11th, 2007, 08:11 AM I don't know - the "high time" of commieblocks in Switzerland was between 1955 and 1975. Some look better nowadays because they have been renovated.
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