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Magnus Estate is building a second and much taller tower on their Worli property. This will house the Four Seasons as well.

Render: Source (http://www.gensler.com/uploads/documents/Gensler_AR11_11_16_2011.pdf)
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Location (view on google maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=mumbai&ll=18.994736,72.820628&spn=0.002785,0.003449&hnear=Mumbai,+Maharashtra,+India&gl=us&t=h&z=18&vpsrc=6)):
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The current Four Seasons hotel opened in May 2008 and was designed by Lohan Associates + Hafeez Contractor
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August 30 Update: Some info on Four season's phase 2 project

http://envis.maharashtra.gov.in/envis_data/files/42MoM_SEAC.pdf
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Here is a snippet from a March article about the second Four Seasons tower. We can expect the design to be released within the next few months -

Four Seasons Checks In (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/four-seasons-checks-in/429161/)

Keeping in mind an extended surge in demand, Four Seasons is putting up two new ballrooms in the property. But perhaps the biggest statement of a rebound in its fortunes comes from the fact that the owners (Delhi’s Jatia family) are planning a huge expansion in the same area.

The 33-storey hotel will soon be dwarfed by a tower that will be two and a half times taller – 84 storeys. It might sport an Aer bar similar to the one present in the current structure, which is also India’s first rooftop bar. The financial details, including the investment for the new hotel, are being finalised. While construction of the two new ballrooms will begin this month, the new skyscraper, which will have office space, service apartments, guest rooms, restaurants and Four Seasons-branded residences, is in the design stage and will be finalised by the end of this year.

Thank you 101
Will this second tower reach 300m mark ?

Isn't what you posted above about the same tower?

If so it says it will exceed 320m.

Some info on Four season's phase 1 project

http://envis.maharashtra.gov.in/envis_data/files/42MoM_SEAC.pdf
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here's the latest decision
this might settle to 200m

http://envis.maharashtra.gov.in/envis_data/files/43MoM_SEAC.pdf
at page 11
Decision: In the last meeting it was pointed out to the project proponent that the
clearance from the aviation authorities for the very tall structure exceeding 320m in
height was essential before the project could be considered for EC as the approved
height will have effect on various parameters. The proponent stated that they had
clearance for 200m height and further clearance was awaited. They were informed that
it would be desirable either to wait for the final clearance or to propose the project with
200m height at this stage and seek revision of EC after final clearance was received.
Many other points were also raised for compliance by the proponent.
In the meeting the project proponent still requested for clearance for the ultimate height
of 320m which they are quite confident of getting from the aviation authorities. Many of
the other points raised in the last meeting were complied with. The project proponent
was then once again requested to recast their present proposal based on the height
clearance they obtained from the Airport Authority of India. Later vide on 19
th
April, they
submitted the recast project (for the height for which they have obtained clearance). A
copy of the letter from Airport Authority of India giving clearance for 186.17m AGL or
198.67m (AMSL) has also been enclosed. The main features of the recast project are:
FSI construction: 36,142 sq.m. Total construction (including non-FSI construction):
80,155 sq.m. Building configuration: 3B+G+35 upper floors. No. of rooms: 117. No. of
floors for hotel: 18. No. of floors for commercial use: 12. Other floors: 4. Basement: 3.

Mr. Jatia has built India’s first Four Seasons Hotel in Mumbai which started operating in 2008. It is a landmark property in Mumbai. Mr. Jatia is now fully concentrated in his next venture for a 85 storey, hotel-cum-commercial project in Mumbai.

Source: http://www.asianhotelsnorth.com/pdf/New_pdf/Annual_financial_Reports/Annual_Report_2010_11.pdf

Mr. Jatia has built India’s first Four Seasons Hotel in Mumbai which started operating in 2008. It is a landmark property in Mumbai. Mr. Jatia is now fully concentrated in his next venture for a 85 storey, hotel-cum-commercial project in Mumbai.

Source: http://www.asianhotelsnorth.com/pdf/New_pdf/Annual_financial_Reports/Annual_Report_2010_11.pdf


FWIW, some related news (http://tandt.viewstaging.uk.com/44/_10285.html) from exactly a year ago -


Contributing to Mumbai’s skyline
Date: 15 November 2010

Turner & Townsend has been appointed to provide project management, cost management and construction management services for the new Four Seasons hotel in Mumbai.

The high-rise tower comprises a hotel and serviced apartments and will be branded Four Seasons. The client is Magus Estates & Hotels who own the existing Four Seasons hotel in Mumbai.

Turner & Townsend India Managing Director Robert Hewitt said “We are delighted to have secured this appointment. It underlines the capability and expertise that we have established in India to deliver such projects.”

The new hotel will be built adjacent to the existing hotel and will also be managed by Toronto-based operator Four Seasons. The project, which is located on a city centre site, is currently at concept design stage. The client has appointed an international design team from the US and Hong Kong.

When completed in 2014, the hotel will dominate the Mumbai skyline and provide a six star quality guest experience.

This article (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/four-seasons-checks-in/429161/) says that the design will be finalized by the end of this year.

Awesome!!!

FWIW, some related news (http://tandt.viewstaging.uk.com/44/_10285.html) from exactly a year ago -



This article (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/four-seasons-checks-in/429161/) says that the design will be finalized by the end of this year.

Man, I am itching to see the final design.....The fact it is designed by International firms satisfies me!! ...EDIT: That is no Hafeez's bullshit!!

Man, I am itching to see the final design.....The fact it is designed by International firms satisfies me!!

^^^^^^^^^^

Way too many cancelled international design's floating around shopping for builder's.

A little mod job here, a snip there, a bit of 'cut & paste', re-sizing will do. Pls. not to be surprised. And there are justifiably not that many native established Chinese, Arab or Indian structural type architects.

*New thread created for this project* - Savz will soon be providing us with latest updates.


Here's a picture from August 2010, showing a part of the tower u/c at the back:

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From Four Season's website (http://www.fourseasons.com/mumbai/meetings/conference_planning/):
Phase 2 will almost triple the available indoor space, and add a magnificent ballroom.

I can't wait to see the render for this one. :angel:

15th Nov, 2011
Copyright@Savz

Project Updates:
Demolishion of the old construction in progress.

Image#1: Taken from the corner opening of the barricaded site ;-)
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Image#2: Sneak Peak into the site.
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Image#3: From the Opp Building which is also going to be taken over by Four Seasons as from what i heard.
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Image#4:
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Image#5:
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Image#6:
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Image#7:
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Any plans to redeveloP all the slums in this area? A friend of mine stayed at the four seasons and was shocked at the proximity of huge slum area across from the hotel

Thanks again Savz. Looking forward to seeing the render.

Any plans to redeveloP all the slums in this area? A friend of mine stayed at the four seasons and was shocked at the proximity of huge slum area across from the hotel

There are plans to redeveloped Jeejamata Nagar, I think DB Realty was involved, not sure how it's going. But if it happens something spectacular could come up as the site his huge.

Thanks again Savz. Looking forward to seeing the render.



There are plans to redeveloped Jeejamata Nagar, I think DB Realty was involved, not sure how it's going. But if it happens something spectacular could come up as the site his huge.

Yup, Infact I`m not mistaken Jeejamata Nagar was in the news a couple months ago as there was a tussle between Lokhandwala Builders and some other local company over that land.. Apparently Lokhandwala did not get the permission to develop that..

Any plans to redeveloP all the slums in this area? A friend of mine stayed at the four seasons and was shocked at the proximity of huge slum area across from the hotel

I am not sure of redevelopment, but yeah there is a huge slum pocket spanning just behing Four Seasons Current Tower. I infact walked through those congested slums most of which are workshops which are on similar lines of businesses at Dharavi. To add, the buildings tht u see in the pics are rehab towers. I went into those to get a shot n also did speak to people in the buildings who happened to b construction workers working on palais royale at sri ram mills site. So lets hope for the best n wait till some supernatural supertall comes up there soon.:-) hope this infor was helpful to all.

^^sounds great.

84 floors. mental. Might spoil the view from the sky bar ?

Cheers for the info savz, Hopefully something will be done to the area, her view from four seasons was that of all the slums, not something you pay 5 * prices for!

Thanks for the photos.

That building is one of Hafeez's designed residential from the site which is in a right state, not maintained well at all. I agree, after paying 5 Star prices you dont want a view like that or slums, it spoils it. Yeah I hope the area is spruced up for the better. Those a/c units, laundry and the marks on that building................aargh!!!

07-01-2012
Copyright@Savz
SII

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Got a tip off from someone that Gensler architects are working on the design of this tower. A quick check of their 2011 annual report (http://www.gensler.com/uploads/documents/Gensler_AR11_11_16_2011.pdf) reveals this design http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3882/happyle.gif :

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-For comparison, the current four seasons tower (shown on the right corner) is 146 meters tall.

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:omg: Awesome find IU!!!

Both the pics are joined to show one full render.

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Got a tip off from someone that Gensler architects are working on the design of this tower. A quick check of their 2011 annual report (http://www.gensler.com/uploads/documents/Gensler_AR11_11_16_2011.pdf) reveals this design :

-For comparison, the current four seasons tower (shown on the right corner) is 146 meters tall.



Awesome iu......what a find dude. Splendid design.

swiming pools looks like toilet seat..rest is awesome.

Simple, but elegant design. Thanks for digging that out IU.

btw, Deekshith now you can also add this one to your future skyline pic.

oh ya thanks for reminding me 101 :)

Beautiful building ! The view from the hotel rooms will be marvelous !

That must be over 400 m just from looking at it. Maybe even over 450 m from a different angle.

Btw IU, I am extremely happy that found out about it. Of course getting that built is a whole new level.

That must be over 400 m just from looking at it. Maybe even over 450 m from a different angle.

Btw IU, I am extremely happy that found out about it. Of course getting that built is a whole new level.

Let's hope there are no alterations and we get a NOD from the environment & aviation....

Yeah, I'm hoping whoever is planning to build it is not a cheap ass. But if he hired Gensler, it's highly unlikely that he is. Just like DB who hired freaking Foster and Partners, who are the best architectural firm in my book.

Awesome find IU. This is looks very tall, and good. Dare i say one of the best looking supertalls in Mumbai (after obviosly Namste and India tower). Just hope it gets buiolt fast with no delays.

Awesome find IU. This is looks very tall, and good. Dare i say one of the best looking supertalls in Mumbai (after obviosly Namste and India tower). Just hope it gets buiolt fast with no delays.

Let's not forget 1ICC and 2ICC by Bombay realty whose designs are equally iconic. So we have world one towers, India tower, 1ICC 2ICC and fs2...

^^
Namaste tower

Let's not forget 1ICC and 2ICC by Bombay realty whose designs are equally iconic. So we have world one towers, India tower, 1ICC 2ICC and fs2...

True i forgot about those two.

Feb 7 2012.

Photo copyright: Prawnsp123 (SSC-I member).

Looks like the demolition of older structure in the site is almost complete.

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Yups DS.....i agree. I will get a close up of the site wen i go this time. Thanks for spotting that out. Thanks Prawns.

Prawns::::

If possible can u get a close up of the Four Seasons Phase II site which deeekshit has cirlced in your pic above for us. Would appreciate that alot. Thanks once again guyz.

Just adding a larger pic and once again thanks to prawns :cheers:

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Not much progress, more or less the same

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The yellow thing is a heavy duty crane and a lot of marble sheets kept inside

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another render:

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- From J Roger Preston's website (http://www.jrpl.com/catalog/projects.php?cid=9). This HK based firm is designing the MEP systems of the tower.


Four Seasons Hotel Mumbai Phase 2, Mumbai, India
Client/Developer: Magus Estates & Hotels Limited
Expected Completion Year: 2014

The site area of this project is approximately 10 lakh (1,000,000) square feet at Mumbai, which is adjacent to the existing Four Seasons Hotel Mumbai Phase 1; The project is to develop an iconic landmark building in Mumbai and will complement the current Four Seasons Hotel Phase 1 Hotel.

The overall building height is about 355m consists of 71 stories including 2 levels of basement carpark, plant room and BOH area. This project is a mixed use development, which the building consists of four main functions, namely : Office, 5-Star Hotel, Deluxe Service Apartment and Luxury Condominium.


Thread title changed from 320+ m, 84 fl to 355m,71 fl

Nice.....Although expecting a 400 m + tower. This height is impressive too. Just the design is good enough and will help complement turning Mumbai from concrete based buildings to glass buildings.

superb design..... :cheers:

+1 :cheers:

That render looks like >80 floors..

A new and more developed render showing the connector building on top of which a pool will be built:

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- from a recently uploaded presentation by Gensler architects (http://www.lachamber.com/clientuploads/Global_Programs/TCNG/gensler.pdf)

Also included in that presentation is a new 45 storey hotel tower project in Hyderabad --> clicky (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=92543012#post92543012).

Nice! I'm really looking forward to this!

5th September 2012
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Couldn't find any noticeable difference compared to the previous update
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Ummm.... Anyway thanks for getting updates on this :cheers2:

song

:lol:

okay but an update is always nice

High res render from here (http://hcdaweb.org/request-for-proposals-690-pohukaina-transit-oriented-development-project/forest-city-best-and-final-offer-11-16-12/02%20690-Pohukaina-BAFO_FINAL.pdf/):

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and a view of the pool:

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FOUR SEASONS MUMBAI MIXED-USE TOWER
Mumbai, India

Gensler was appointed to provide design services for the new Four Seasons hotel and mixed-use tower in Mumbai. The 80-story tower, which will be built adjacent to the existing hotel, will be a prominent landmark on the Mumbai skyline. It includes both a hotel and serviced apartments and will provide a 6-star guest experience. Gensler completed concept design; the project is currently on hold.

Now that's what I'm talking about IU. Thanks for the HQ renders.

It says its on hold.

6 star? :nuts: :lol:

It says its on hold.

Yes, that was already known.

Magus is waiting for a couple of approvals to come through, with the main one being from the civil aviation ministry for its height. Till then the project is forced to be on hold.

Any plans to redeveloP all the slums in this area? A friend of mine stayed at the four seasons and was shocked at the proximity of huge slum area across from the hotel

yes, I presume the jigamata slum and it's neighbouring slums have been acquired by builders (presumably the litigation is now completed. Soon will start demolishing work also)

Yes, that was already known.

Magus is waiting for a couple of approvals to come through, with the main one being from the civil aviation ministry for its height. Till then the project is forced to be on hold.

another project on hold.
I am starting to think that we have more projects on hold than those actually under construction. :nuts:

This one isn't really "on hold" as it isn't even approved yet.

It says its on hold.


Therefore, I thought it was on hold. my mistake sorry.
In that case, I am glad it's progressing. :banana:
It will be great. specially "aer" on top of 300m+.

This tower if built will be epic!:banana::cheers::nuts: