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SinCity October 26th, 2004, 05:35 AM Croatia's second biggest city - Split, is home to one of the country's hottest property markets. Being a major port and the largest city on the Adriatic coast makes it a popular choice for residents and property developers. The city is also a major tourism destination.
Here are a number of projects under way, planned and completed .....
BRODARICA
This is currently the largest residential - commercial project underway on the Dalmatian Coast. The total size of the complex is over 80,000 sqms which will include 15,000 sqm of office space.
This project included the "implosion" of a large factory to make way for this development. It is due for completion in mid 2006.
One interesting feature is the large section of Roman era aqueduct that was uncovered on site. This aqueduct once supplied water to Diocletian's Palace which still survives to this day in the city centre.
News article (Croatian only)
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/regions/dalmatia/131479/index.do
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro5.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro4.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro3.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro2.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro6.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/probaner.jpg
Uncovered Roman Era Aqueduct ......
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/vod1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/vod5v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/vod3v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/vod4v.jpg
Demolition pics including video of demolition ....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/brodarica2004c.asp
Before
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/a3v.jpg
After
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/a5v.jpg
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 05:41 AM Former Croatian Tennis Champ - Goran Ivanisevic is also in on the construction boom with his own commercial - residential project. Split is Goran Ivanisevic's home town .....
http://www.nekretnine.org/lazarica/maketa1.gif
http://www.nekretnine.org/lazarica/maketa2.jpg
Kommandant Mark October 26th, 2004, 05:48 AM Nice projects, but isn't Rijeka bigger than Split?
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 05:48 AM ŽNJANSKI BLIZANCI
Large Residential Complex under way and due for completion September 2005
Total Size - over 36,000 sqms
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/novistanovi/zblizanci12cv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/p9-01v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/znjan-urb.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/p1-01v.jpg
Excavation and construction images ......
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/01av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/07av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/11cv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/stanje2v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/03bv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/06av.jpg
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 05:52 AM BELVEDER
Recently completed Belveder retail - office and residential complex. Total size ... 16,000 sqm .....
72 - Apartments
66 - Shops - Businesses
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/belveder/b1.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/belveder/1v.jpg
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 06:05 AM PAZDIGRAD
Residential complex. Total size - close to 50,000sqms. Since completed.
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/main.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/11av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/11bv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/11dv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/11cv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/pav.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/pbv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/pcv.jpg
Interiors ....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/inv4v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/inv3v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/int2v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/inv5v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/int1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/int1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/pazdigrad/inv8v.jpg
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 06:14 AM RADOŠEVAC
Apartments inc Serviced Apartments. Recently completd and totally sold out. :D
Total size of project ..... 15,000 sqms
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/radosevac11av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/07fv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/pannoc1.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/pannoc2.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/radosevac10dv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/RADOSEVAC10ev.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/RADOSEVAC10av.gif
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int2.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int7.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int4.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int10.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int1.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int13.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int5.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/radosevac/int9.jpg
Vele October 26th, 2004, 06:19 AM SinCity,
Fantastic, some great projects there.
Good to see 2+ making significant inroads for Croatian Architects. Only the Best for the Best.
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 06:22 AM SinCity,
Fantastic, some great projects there.
Good to see 2+ making significant inroads for Croatian Architects. Only the Best for the Best.
...... and theres many more to come. :D :D :D.
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 07:13 AM ZENTA
Zenta project recently completed and also completly sold before completion. :D .....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/10cv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/10dv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/10av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta4.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta6.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta7.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta1.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta5.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta3.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int1.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/zenta2.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/10bv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int6.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int2.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int7.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int4.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int11.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int16.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zenta/int13.jpg
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 07:18 AM TRSTENIK
Apartment complex "Trstenik" is complete sold out, even long before completion. Located only 200m from the water. Total size ...... 8000sqms. Has 74 apartments.
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik003.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik006.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik001.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik002.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik008.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik007.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik004.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/trstenik/trstenik005.jpg
Vele October 26th, 2004, 07:35 AM I must say that these new developments are a lot more sensitve than the old commie type apartment blocks in the background.
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 08:31 AM I must say that these new developments are a lot more sensitve than the old commie type apartment blocks in the background.
Indeed, quite a stark contrast. The level of domestic architecture in Split is excellent. Anyway, theres more to come ........... I think Split will be hot topic here for the next week. :D
SinCity October 26th, 2004, 10:56 PM Pazdigrad "I"
Another development stage in the "Pazdigrad" complex. A number of these complexes involve multiple development stages due to their popularity. This one too has been completely sold out.
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/ipazdigrad/pazi6v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/ipazdigrad/pazi12v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/ipazdigrad/pazi3v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/ipazdigrad/pazi4v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/ipazdigrad/pazi2v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/ipazdigrad/pazi10v.jpg
Justin October 27th, 2004, 03:53 AM Awesome! Thats some great projects and architecture. :eek2:
SinCity October 28th, 2004, 06:46 AM The Croatian government has announced the resumption of motorway construction now that the main Zagreb - Split and Zagreb - Rijeka motorways are now complete.
Next year the Split - Ploce motorway will begin. The 97 km stretch is part of the Zagreb to Dubrovnik motorway.
It was also announced next year that the long awaited Peljesac Bridge will also begin. Similarly, another motorway was announced .... Zagreb to Sisak which will form a future secondary motorway to Split via the Bosnian city of Bihac. :)
Article in Croatian ......
http://www.vjesnik.com/html/2004/10/28/Clanak.asp?r=unu&c=1
Vele October 28th, 2004, 07:44 AM That bridge to peljasac is an awesome strategy
SinCity October 29th, 2004, 08:49 AM more projects for Split ....
GRAĐEVINA S1 - 55
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/s1/p1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/s1/p3v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/s1/p2v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/s1/p4v.jpg
SinCity October 29th, 2004, 08:53 AM Dražanac
From this .........
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/drazanac/10dv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/drazanac/10cv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/drazanac/10av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/drazanac/10bv.jpg
To this ........ (9000 sqms of new apartments)
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/drazanac/2pv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/drazanac/1pv.jpg
lopov October 29th, 2004, 11:51 AM That bridge to peljasac is an awesome strategy
Yes, Pelješac Bridge is great project and awesome strategy. I think it is to expensive (some experts say that It will cost cca 1,5 billion kunas or 200 million euros) for Croatia, but it seems they will really build it. However, sea bed research alredy begun.
This is the article from http://info.croatiabiz.com
(only in Croatian)
Istraživanje podmorja budućeg mosta Komarno-Pelješac
29.10.2004.
Dosadašnji rezultati istraživanja podmorja na mjestu gdje će se graditi temelji budućeg mosta između kopna i Pelješca pokazali su da je sastav tla vrlo povoljan, kaže direktor projekta izgradnje mosta Dominik Brigović.
"Do 120 metara ispod morskog dna nalazi se 'osnovna stijena'", rekao je Brigović, dodajući kako će "čvrsta stijena ispod morskog dna omogućiti kvalitetno temeljenje 2300 metara dugog mosta, do dubine 55 metara, i to upravo na osi koja je i predviđena za njegovu gradnju".
Izgradnja mosta Komarno-Pelješac, vrijednog oko 50 milijuna eura, sastavnog dijela buduće "brze ceste Dubrovnik" duge 139 kilometara, trebala bi početi u prvoj polovici iduće godine, za što će, kako je Vlada već najavila, biti osiguran novac u proračunu. Sedamdeset posto investicije odnosi se na podmorske radove, zbog čega je također, kako je naglasio Brigović, važno provesti opsežne istražne radove.
Istražne radove provode Hrvatske ceste radi utvrđivanja vrste temelja potrebnih za gradnju mosta, a od šest predviđenih bušotina, međusobno udaljenih 300 do 350 metara, na 'trasi' mosta dugoj 2050 metara, između Komarna i uvale Brijesta na Pelješcu, do sada su izbušene tri, a s bušenjem četvrte bušotine počelo se jučer. Dvije su bušotine duboke po 100, a jedna 75 metara. Izvađena su 33 uzorka koja su nakon ispitivanja u brodskom laboratoriju poslana na daljnju analizu u Institut građevinarstva Hrvatske u Zagreb.
Hrvatske ceste naručitelj su i nositelj tog do sada najzahtjevnijeg i najvećeg projekta bušenja u Hrvatskoj, "teškog" 20 milijuna kuna, rekao je Brigović, a provodi ga tvrtka "Crosco", u sastavu "Ina Grupe". Istraživanja, odnosno "sondaže", provode se ruskim brodom-bušilicom "Bavenit", namijenjenim za geotehnička ispitivanja morskog dna, opremljenim laboratorijem za ispitivanje uzoraka, koji je u najmu tvrtke "Apolonija" iz Genove. Uz rusku posadu, na brodu je i ekipa sastavljena od domaćih i inozemnih stručnjaka iz SAD-a, Nizozemske i Italije.
Brodu dugom 90 metara ne smetaju ni visoki valovi, ni vjetar, što omogućava 24-satni rad, odnosno da se sva ispitivanja provedu u roku i kraćem od zacrtanih 15 dana, kazao je Brigović. Cijena njegova najma po danu, inače, iznosi 60 tisuća eura.
No, po riječima direktora projekta, "bolje je potrošiti više u istražne radove, nego projektirati most napamet".
Na temelju rezultata tih istraživanja Građevinski fakultet u Zagrebu izradit će tri idejna projektna rješenja izgleda i konstrukcije budućeg mosta kopno - poluotok Pelješac.
Iduće srijede očekuje se kako će u posjet istraživačkoj ekipi doći i predstavnici hrvatske Vlade s premijerom Ivom Sanaderom kako bi se upoznali s tim, pojedinačno gledajući, trenutačno najvećim i najzahtjevnijim građevinskim projektom u Hrvatskoj, najavio je Brigović.
(http://info.croatiabiz.com/clanak.php?ID=19671)
SinCity October 29th, 2004, 02:44 PM Thats going to be one long and significant bridge. I saw pics of it this year but I haven't been able to find any since. Will be a spectacular feature of the Dubrovnik motorway and will open up some prime real estate on the Peljasac Peninsula .... :)
Primorac November 1st, 2004, 12:40 AM Lopov,
It doesnt really matter how much it costs, the benefits of this bridge are enormous.
Politically it links Croatia. A significant issue.
Economically, the peljasac peninsula that relyed so heavily on viticulture and winemaking gives those people more opportunity to move there products. Tourism will flourish as peljasac was avoided a lot of the time because of the distance. I predict more "cellar doors" and restaurants at the vinyards.
I think the returns will be a thousand fold.
SinCity November 1st, 2004, 02:16 AM Lopov,
It doesnt really matter how much it costs, the benefits of this bridge are enormous.
Politically it links Croatia. A significant issue.
Economically, the peljasac peninsula that relyed so heavily on viticulture and winemaking gives those people more opportunity to move there products. Tourism will flourish as peljasac was avoided a lot of the time because of the distance. I predict more "cellar doors" and restaurants at the vinyards.
I think the returns will be a thousand fold.
Politically it connects Dalmatia on a whole without having to divert thru Bosnia's territory @ Neum.
Secondly as Primorac said, it opens up the wine region which produces some of Croatia's well know international brands of wine. In the long end this project will pay off in many ways.
lopov November 1st, 2004, 11:44 AM Lopov,
It doesnt really matter how much it costs, the benefits of this bridge are enormous.
Politically it links Croatia. A significant issue.
Economically, the peljasac peninsula that relyed so heavily on viticulture and winemaking gives those people more opportunity to move there products. Tourism will flourish as peljasac was avoided a lot of the time because of the distance. I predict more "cellar doors" and restaurants at the vinyards.
I think the returns will be a thousand fold.
Primorac,
I know we need that bridge because it will unite the country. But it is too expensive, and we alredy spended too much money on motorways Zagreb-Split, Zagreb-Rijeka, Zagreb-Varaždin and railway reconstructions. Of course, it was nesesery to build motorway Zagreb-Split and Zagreb-Rijeka. But how we did it? Taking credits. It was the only way, but Croatian outer deficit is cca 25 billion dollars (almost 80% of GDP) and it still grows. I think we should slow down and build that bridge in next 5 years.
But motives for construction of that bridge are more political than economical because of bosnian request for using port of Ploče. If we give them Ploče, they will give us motorway over bosnian teritory. But no one Croatian government will accept that condition. That is why few years old Bosnian-Croatian agreement about Ploče was never ratified in Croatian parlament.
However, Croatian government opened competition for construction of motorway Split-Ploče last week. Motorway goes on :)
Klokan November 2nd, 2004, 11:32 PM All this infrastructure is long overdue, therefore the option of the bridge should be taken into consideration. It maybe costly but it makes sense in that it allows consistant travel down the whole Croatian coast without having to pass through the territory of another country.
Primorac November 3rd, 2004, 12:23 AM without spending this sort of money then croatia cannot open itself up to new economies.
the costs may be large but i think we will be seeing returns very shortly.
SinCity November 3rd, 2004, 04:13 AM Any these new roads aren't "freeways" but motorways with tolls which would help pay for itself. Provide a good quick road on the way to Istanbul and people are more than happy to pay for usage ....... Therefore I think the bridge is a good idea as it removes any issues to do with border crossings .....
Dalmo November 16th, 2004, 04:40 AM Thanks for showing the many great projects in Split.
Loni Anderson December 15th, 2004, 01:23 AM Nice projects for Split!
SinCity March 9th, 2005, 03:01 AM Its time for some updates to Croatia's second largest city. :D
OK, first things first. Long Foot mentioned this a few days ago so I'll add it here. Its an upgrade of Split's famous promenade ...... "The Riva"
This is the area between the waterfront and Diocletian's Roman Palace.
Part of it will contain a "Sports Walkway of Fame" .....
http://www.iskon.hr/2005/03/04/0711007.17.jpg
http://www.iskon.hr/2005/03/04/0712007.17.jpg
More info in Croatian .....
http://www.iskon.hr/kultura/page/2005/03/04/0710006.html
SinCity March 9th, 2005, 03:06 AM This is one of Splits oldest harbour's and its getting a major makeover that includes a new promenade and a marina. Work started today and this is what it will look like once completed .....
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050308/reg-matejuska.jpg
News in Croatian .... :)
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/regions/dalmatia/234160/index.do
SinCity March 9th, 2005, 03:29 AM This is a large complex that is under construction in the inner eastern suburb of Firule in Split.
Its total floor space is 30,000sqm constructed on the following principles ....
- 5 below ground levels, 4 of which including parking station, carwash, carpark. It will also include a lower level retail.
- 9 above ground levels which will include a further 2 levels of retails, followed by offices and apartment on the upper levels.
The lower level retail complex will extend beneath Spinčićeva Street and connect with the Firule District Hospital which sits across the road.
The developer is "Atrium Spalatum" .....
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/karta.jpg
Map Legend .....
1. "Lazarica" Complex
2. "Firule Hospital
3. Pre-school
4. School
5. Petrol Station
6. "Zenta" Port and Sports Zone
7. "Bačvice" Complex
8. Roman Palace of Diocletian
9. ŠRC "Gripe"
10. Port, Train Station, Bus Station
11. Tennis Centre
12. Firula Beach
13. "Atrium Spalatum" Office
"Lazarica" Complex under construction .....
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/vijesti1.jpg
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/vijesti3.jpg
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050308/reg-lazarica-split.jpg
Apartment Designs ......
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/stan1.jpg
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/stan2.jpg
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/stan3.jpg
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr/img/zgrada2.jpg
Website .....
http://www.atrium-spalatum.hr
mic of Orion March 9th, 2005, 11:34 AM Nice projects, but isn't Rijeka bigger than Split?
No, Split is larger,
Population of top 10 major cities in Croatia.
Zagreb - 800 000 (1100 000 metro area)
Split - 205 000 (275 000 metro area)
Rijeka - 170 000 (225 000 metro area)
Osijek - 130 000 (180 000 metro area)
Zadar - 82 000 (150 000 metro area)
Pula - 72 000 (125 000 greater area)
Karlovac - 62 000 (98 000 greater area)
Slavonski Brod - 58000 (100 000 greater area)
Varazdin - 55 000 (100 000 greater area)
Dubrovnik - 50 000 (100 000 greater area)
hope this helps :)
PS: but Rijeka is more affluent and cosmopolitan, very up there with Zagreb, and Varazdin, has more charm as central-European city, whereas Split is very traditional Mediterranean city with ancient architecture, very fashionable elitism, sort of if you immagne comparison btw Milan and Rome.
Both cities are very nice, just Split gets more press and tourists where Rijeka is just getting in to swing of things and many new and nice thing's s are happening there.
I think both cities require tram networks last time I was there in 2000, it had awful public transport, often got stuck in traffic, just hated the experience in both cities.
Lets hope Croatia can finance this projects, as mentioned cities certainly can't and would be good for Cro-Tram and Koncar and jobs in both cities, any thoughts on this, and if you do have any influence plz consider it.
:) :cheers:
SinCity March 10th, 2005, 03:19 AM Split is actually Croatia's fastest growing city population wise. It has a positive birth rate over death rate on top of immigration. :)
Walter Wolf March 10th, 2005, 03:36 AM you know how it is SinCity, Bura puse, spend a few hours in a Konoba, playing cards drinking red wine, you get home and you....
the perfect recipe for procreation :)
Nibnub March 10th, 2005, 05:09 AM Hehe, you´re right about that. I hope that Split will develope fast now. I´d like to see more big hotel-scrapers in the city (not near the old town of course)
SinCity March 10th, 2005, 06:08 AM Hehe, you´re right about that. I hope that Split will develope fast now. I´d like to see more big hotel-scrapers in the city (not near the old town of course)
Welcome to the forum. Make sure you check out the other threads for Zagreb, Zadar, etc. :)
AltiusAltiusAltius March 10th, 2005, 09:30 AM Its time for some updates to Croatia's second largest city. :D
OK, first things first. Long Foot mentioned this a few days ago so I'll add it here. Its an upgrade of Split's famous promenade ...... "The Riva"
This is the area between the waterfront and Diocletian's Roman Palace.
Part of it will contain a "Sports Walkway of Fame" .....
http://www.iskon.hr/2005/03/04/0711007.17.jpg
http://www.iskon.hr/2005/03/04/0712007.17.jpg
More info in Croatian .....
http://www.iskon.hr/kultura/page/2005/03/04/0710006.html
I think the Riva should be protected and conserved. Not sure about all proposed 'modern' street architecture...It's the best heritage promenade on the Adriatic Coast adjacent to almost 2000 yo Roman palace and the contemporary architecture should be introduced with caution...
SinCity March 11th, 2005, 12:28 AM I think the Riva should be protected and conserved. Not sure about all proposed 'modern' street architecture...It's the best heritage promenade on the Adriatic Coast adjacent to almost 2000 yo Roman palace and the contemporary architecture should be introduced with caution...
I think so too. I hope it aint too radical a change from the traditional feel to the place.
Walter Wolf March 11th, 2005, 01:52 AM i think it will be sensitive.
the concept seems very transparent using glass and slender structural pieces.
AstroBoy March 11th, 2005, 10:21 AM Split looks OK as is. It all looked fine to me the last time I was there
long foot April 4th, 2005, 03:50 PM New business building on the corner Dubrovačka/Domovinskog rata streets proposed:
Results of competition:
First prize:
Autor: DARIJA SINOVČIĆ dipl.ing.arh., iz Podstrane
Suradnici: Alberto Miceli Farrugia dipl.ing.arh.
David Drago dipl.ing.arh.
David Felice dipl.ing.arh.
Konrad Buhagiar dipl.ing.arh.
Tanja Panajotović dipl.ing.arh.
Jens Bruenslow dipl.ing.arh.
Ruben Formosa ing.arh.
Franz Zahra dipl.ing.arh.
Andrew Scicluna ing.arh.
Ivo Orlandini dipl.ing.građ.
Dražen Krvavica dipl.ing.građ.
http://www.arhitektura.info/ARHIT/prilozi/07/19akrap/akrap/01.jpg
Second prize:
Autor: njirić+arhitekti d.o.o. / Prof. HRVOJE NJIRIĆ, iz Zagreba
Koautor: Hrvoje Bilandžić, dipl.ing.arh.
Suradnici: Davor Bušnja, dipl.ing.arh.
Erich Rannegger, stud. arh.
Mladen Freškura, dipl.ing.građ., dipl.diz.
Konzultanti: Melita Kanceljak-Marelić, dipl.ing.arh. – požar
Vjekoslav Dorić. dipl.ing.prom. IGH Split - promet
http://www.arhitektura.info/ARHIT/prilozi/07/19akrap/akrap/02.jpg
Third prize:
Autori: ANTE KUZMANIĆ dipl.ing.arh., iz Splita
SAMUEL MARTIN dipl.ing.arh., iz Splita
DUJMO ŽIŽIĆ dipl.ing.arh., iz Splita
ANDREJ ČIKEŠ dipl.ing.arh., iz Baške Vode
MIHAELA BAŠIĆ dipl.ing.arh. iz Zagreba
http://www.arhitektura.info/ARHIT/prilozi/07/19akrap/akrap/03.jpg
SinCity April 5th, 2005, 01:22 AM About time! Well done Long Foot for this bit of news. :)
I kind of actually like the 3rd design the best, but hopefully there will be more info.
Where did you get this bit of information?
long foot April 5th, 2005, 08:22 AM ^^^Right click with your mouse, properties… ;)
www.arhitektura.info, www.d-a-z.hr
SinCity April 5th, 2005, 08:25 AM ^^^Right click with your mouse, properties… ;)
www.arhitektura.info, www.d-a-z.hr
Thanks :)
mic of Orion April 6th, 2005, 03:57 AM New business building on the corner Dubrovačka/Domovinskog rata streets proposed:
Results of competition:
First prize:
Autor: DARIJA SINOVČIĆ dipl.ing.arh., iz Podstrane
Suradnici: Alberto Miceli Farrugia dipl.ing.arh.
David Drago dipl.ing.arh.
David Felice dipl.ing.arh.
Konrad Buhagiar dipl.ing.arh.
Tanja Panajotović dipl.ing.arh.
Jens Bruenslow dipl.ing.arh.
Ruben Formosa ing.arh.
Franz Zahra dipl.ing.arh.
Andrew Scicluna ing.arh.
Ivo Orlandini dipl.ing.građ.
Dražen Krvavica dipl.ing.građ.
http://www.arhitektura.info/ARHIT/prilozi/07/19akrap/akrap/01.jpg
Second prize:
Autor: njirić+arhitekti d.o.o. / Prof. HRVOJE NJIRIĆ, iz Zagreba
Koautor: Hrvoje Bilandžić, dipl.ing.arh.
Suradnici: Davor Bušnja, dipl.ing.arh.
Erich Rannegger, stud. arh.
Mladen Freškura, dipl.ing.građ., dipl.diz.
Konzultanti: Melita Kanceljak-Marelić, dipl.ing.arh. – požar
Vjekoslav Dorić. dipl.ing.prom. IGH Split - promet
http://www.arhitektura.info/ARHIT/prilozi/07/19akrap/akrap/02.jpg
Third prize:
Autori: ANTE KUZMANIĆ dipl.ing.arh., iz Splita
SAMUEL MARTIN dipl.ing.arh., iz Splita
DUJMO ŽIŽIĆ dipl.ing.arh., iz Splita
ANDREJ ČIKEŠ dipl.ing.arh., iz Baške Vode
MIHAELA BAŠIĆ dipl.ing.arh. iz Zagreba
http://www.arhitektura.info/ARHIT/prilozi/07/19akrap/akrap/03.jpg
they all look very bleak, perhaps cose ity is black/white photo, (well looks more infrared - lol)
SinCity April 8th, 2005, 03:20 AM Courtesy of Long Foot :) ......
Project of new university library in Split:
Total costs: 15 milion euros
I think that this is the best presented project ever in Croatia.
Links and articles:
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/karakteristike.htm
http://www.nsk.hr/dogadjanja/skupov...m#slide0032.htm
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/od_ideje.htm
Pics
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani1.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani3.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani4.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani5.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani6.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani7.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani8.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani9.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani10.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n2.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n6.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n9.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/prostorni_model.jpg
BosRoker April 9th, 2005, 11:18 PM This all looks very nice. It seems as if in a few years every major city in Croatia will have a skyscraper.
SinCity April 11th, 2005, 01:50 AM This all looks very nice. It seems as if in a few years every major city in Croatia will have a skyscraper.
Very true L3D3NI, the top 5 Croatian cities will all see new office towers in place over the next couple of years. Zagreb, Split, Rijeka, Osijek, Zadar. :)
You guys too have some fine new projects in Sarajevo in the pipeline, unlike that neighbour of ours as some would like to call ...... "Grad Oblakodera" ...... :|
mic of Orion April 11th, 2005, 04:18 PM Very true L3D3NI, the top 5 Croatian cities will all see new office towers in place over the next couple of years. Zagreb, Split, Rijeka, Osijek, Zadar. :)
You guys too have some fine new projects in Sarajevo in the pipeline, unlike that neighbour of ours as some would like to call ...... "Grad Oblakodera" ...... :|
lol, like your cynicism, and I definitely agree.
sts April 11th, 2005, 09:58 PM Really a nice city!!
Pavle April 24th, 2005, 01:14 PM Hmmm...they could make that new library higher, when I look at 1st picture where you can see that commie block it looks too low. Sve ostalo je za pet, grad kao i uvijek predivan ;)
Pozdrav,
-Pavle
Singidunum April 24th, 2005, 04:21 PM lol, like your cynicism, and I definitely agree.
more precisely you like his pathetic "hate" towards Serbia.
SinCity May 3rd, 2005, 06:03 AM ŽNJANSKI BLIZANCI
Large Residential Complex under way and due for completion September 2005
Total Size - over 36,000 sqms
Latest construction photos :) .....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0305cv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0405iv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0305av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0305dv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0205dv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0405gv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0405av.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0405bv.jpg
Final look ....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/p9-01v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/znjan-urb.jpg
bubach_hlubach May 3rd, 2005, 06:51 AM Pretty cool SinCity :)
Also, on this website, there is some complex Brodarica being built at fast pace, you should post some pics of that, too.
SinCity May 3rd, 2005, 07:40 AM Theres heaps of things I have to update on this thread and also other cities like Rijeka etc ....... I need to allocate some time. :) I promise to get everything updated in the weeks ahead ...... otherwise the big boss Mr Long Foot wont be happy with me. :nono:
long foot May 3rd, 2005, 08:15 AM Theres heaps of things I have to update on this thread and also other cities like Rijeka etc ....... I need to allocate some time. :) I promise to get everything updated in the weeks ahead ...... otherwise the big boss Mr Long Foot wont be happy with me. :nono:
I feel like a godfather :D
But seriously, Sinsity is a genius, he always find something new and interesting ;)
MagyarDuna May 3rd, 2005, 10:02 AM Great update SinCity, Split is beautiful. :)
ice-man May 5th, 2005, 04:46 AM Are there any plans for trams or metro in the city of Split in the future?
Any idea when Split will get a new bus station?
mic of Orion May 5th, 2005, 04:50 AM Are there any plans for trams or metro in the city of Split in the future?
Any idea when Split will get a new bus station?
I'd imagine trams; Metro, lol, no, Split is to small a city only 205 000 ppl live there, well 280-300 000 if you include whole metropolitan area, perhaps they wil get trams, all depends, it might happend - we'll know more by 2007/8 when it is likely and if Split, Rijeka and Pula get there trams back, as well as Dubrovnik, Varazdin and Zadar. :) :)
If so Cro-tram consortium will be very busy for sometime to come... :)
SinCity May 5th, 2005, 07:15 AM A metro wont be happening in Split, although it would be highly interesting in a way similar to the Athens subway which took ages as countless artefacts kept being unearthed.
It would be the same for former Roman Split and all the treasures that lay beneath the city.
As Mick said, its too small for metro but the trams are most likely going to make a comeback.
I have heard that a new inter-city bus station is planned. One of many projects under consideration for Split (Spalato)
SinCity May 19th, 2005, 05:48 AM Pics from 3 weeks ago. This is probably one of the biggest developments happening in Split ....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405fv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405bv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405gv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405dv.jpg
One of the interesting things with this project was the uncovering of the Roman era undeground aqueduct. It was removed delicately in the initial construction and now it is pictured here being returned to the site ....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405iv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405jv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/0405lv.jpg
Project render .....
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro2.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro5.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/pro4.jpg
AstroBoy May 19th, 2005, 02:33 PM Is there anything more known about the highrise office tower proposal. It looks to be about 100m. Does anyone know who the investor is?
SinCity May 20th, 2005, 07:22 AM This new office tower for Split will indeed be more interesting .... if we ever get more details on who is behind it.
ice-man May 22nd, 2005, 05:39 AM Does anybody know whats the story regarding the old fountain on the riva. Is it going to be rebuilt? I hope it is. (Why was it knocked down in the first place?)
SinCity May 23rd, 2005, 03:15 AM Does anybody know whats the story regarding the old fountain on the riva. Is it going to be rebuilt? I hope it is. (Why was it knocked down in the first place?)
"The Riva" is being totally rennovated so maybe they removed the fountain so as to repair it in anticipation of returning it. I'll see if I can find some pics of the new look Riva.
SinCity May 23rd, 2005, 03:19 AM Ice-man this is all I can find for now on the new look Riva. I'm not sure on the fountain .....
http://www.iskon.hr/2005/03/04/0711007.17.jpg
http://www.iskon.hr/2005/03/04/0712007.17.jpg
bubach_hlubach May 23rd, 2005, 09:29 PM Does anybody know whats the story regarding the old fountain on the riva. Is it going to be rebuilt? I hope it is. (Why was it knocked down in the first place?)
To tell you the truth, I didnt even have a clue that some fountain was ever there, now i learnt something new ;) :)
According to this, i would say that the fountain is gonna be rebuilt :)
http://www.nighst.com/galerija/albums/userpics/10004/projekt-riva-5.jpg
http://www.nighst.com/galerija/albums/userpics/10004/projekt-riva-7.jpg
http://www.nighst.com/galerija/albums/userpics/10004/projekt-riva-8.jpg
:cheers:
bubach_hlubach May 23rd, 2005, 09:37 PM http://www.nighst.com/galerija/albums/userpics/10004/sudamja_2005_riva__04.jpg
'dok mi piturajemo fasadu, vi citajte Jutarnji list'
(welcome to Split) :D
SinCity May 24th, 2005, 02:00 AM Very nice to see that fountain get rennovated. I cant even remember it either and I'm quite familiar with Split. LOL :D
OettingerCroat May 29th, 2005, 06:59 PM that was a very good comparison, between rome vs. milan and rijeka vs. split
a tram system in split and rijeka would be great. its all strategic. it will cost money to lay down the tracks, but you'll be helping Cro-Tram out so much and be creating so many new jobs (and best of all, have a quick, pre-determined route thru the city) that the benefits of a tram line thru rijeka and split would be astronomical. plus they look cool :laugh:
i was just wondering, could Cro-Tram build that new tram (the roundlooking, low floor one that was just rolled out recently) with just 3 cabins instead of 5? for use on shorter lines? thats mostly all that split or rijeka would need.
i mean, tram lines in osijek use only one tram car, and old round Tatra.
Zagreb bought 70 of these new Cro-Tram 2200 trams over the course of 3 years. what will happen to all those other trams? do they go to osijek? may they be sold/donated to sarajevo or skopje (does skopje have trams?)? cause 70 of these new huge 2200 trams will be plenty to carry zagreb, i believe.
those still very cool 2100 three-cabin trams currently in zagreb could go right to osijek and look cool over there :)
no i dont remember the fountain either
mic of Orion May 29th, 2005, 10:11 PM that was a very good comparison, between rome vs. milan and rijeka vs. split
a tram system in split and rijeka would be great. its all strategic. it will cost money to lay down the tracks, but you'll be helping Cro-Tram out so much and be creating so many new jobs (and best of all, have a quick, pre-determined route thru the city) that the benefits of a tram line thru rijeka and split would be astronomical. plus they look cool :laugh:
i was just wondering, could Cro-Tram build that new tram (the roundlooking, low floor one that was just rolled out recently) with just 3 cabins instead of 5? for use on shorter lines? thats mostly all that split or rijeka would need.
i mean, tram lines in osijek use only one tram car, and old round Tatra.
Zagreb bought 70 of these new Cro-Tram 2200 trams over the course of 3 years. what will happen to all those other trams? do they go to osijek? may they be sold/donated to sarajevo or skopje (does skopje have trams?)? cause 70 of these new huge 2200 trams will be plenty to carry zagreb, i believe.
those still very cool 2100 three-cabin trams currently in zagreb could go right to osijek and look cool over there :)
no i dont remember the fountain either
I'm sure it can, Cro-tram consortium has already put its bid on few projects and Sofia in Bulgaria would/has already ordered 100 TMK 2200 trams, it is likely this ones would be 3 section trams rather than 5 section in Zagreb, btw. TMK2200 are probably one of the longest trams anywhere, most 5 section trams are only 28.5-30m long where's the TMK is 32m and can be even 40m long it all depends on specification to each client... As to TMK2100 they are staying where they are, no one will get this trams as production has ceased, only 17 trams (I think) where built and will probably be pushed in to night service. TYMK 2200 are probably going to replace all of the trams on Zagreb streets and order for 50 more trams over say 3 more years could be put and thus bring total number of TMK 2200 trams to 120, giving about 7+1 trams per line. If 3 more trams lines are to be constructed, lines 10, 16 and 18 (according to projected needs), than likely order of 30 more trams cold bring the number of TMK 2200 with ZET service to 150. Osijek, Split, Rijeka and other cities if they are to get tram systems would most likely be getting Cro-trams and this would secure jobs at the consortium for quite some time.
Old Zagreb trams, primarily of Czech origin will be scraped as well as Croatian made old-timers from 50's and 60's. Some Czech trams like articulated Tatra trams might donated as they are in quite good shape (40-50 trams in all).
Some German trams might be donated to Osijek as city already has 4-5 Germans in service, replacing all Tatra trams with in Osijek public transport would probably be best solution for city in short term - but say in 4-5 years city would definitely benefit from Cro-trams, I am pretty sure city would order at least 20 trams to replace all of its trams, this would most likely be only 3-section articulated trams. Split if it gets trams would require 5 tram lines same with Rijeka.
In former Yugoslavia very few cities had trams, Zagreb, Sarajevo, Osijek and Belgrade where only cities with this mode of transport, but Ljubljana is planning 5 tram lines and would be probably great candidate for Cro-trams.
Sarajevo atm can't afford new trams and donations from Slovaks and Czech's in recent years have covered some of the Sarajevo needs, perhaps in 5-10 years time they might order Cro-trams, who knows?
Sofia atm looks most likely candidate for Cro-trams and I'm sure we'll here more about this project when times comes. :) :cheers:
SinCity June 22nd, 2005, 02:24 AM Property rights to a prominent 30,000 sqm site which once housed heavy industry has been resolved. The former "Dalmacija dd" metals factory has passed into ownership to the Tilija consortium which are proposing to transform the site into large complex of new apartments. The opposing purchase bid came from British Alucor group which wanted to revive the former factory but withdrew their offer on the privitisation bid.
While I do prefer jobs creation, especially for Split, the waterfront site is too nice for heavy industry. New industries in Split, as is the case with all Croatian cities are moving into new industrial/trade zones that are located away from residential areas.
former site ....
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050620/pos-dalmacija-txt.jpg
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/economics/315931/index.do
SinCity June 29th, 2005, 05:29 AM Split's well known "Hotel Marijan" is to get a massive rennovation, transforming one of the most prominent, yet run down hotels in the city to one of the best 5 stars on the coast. Since the early 90s, Hotel Marijan became heavily run down while it was used as emergency accommodation for both Croatian and Bosnian refugees fleeing the wars of the 1990s.
The multi level hotel occupies a prime waterfront location adjacent to the old city at the foot of the Marijan mountain. It will most likely re-open as the Split Hotel Radisson under the well known international chain. The current workforce is expected to be doubled after completion ...
The highrise Hotel Marijan as it looks now :puke: .....
http://www.photocroatia.com/GALLERY/photo/split/normal/T_LISAC_SPLIT_9.jpg
http://www.photocroatia.com/GALLERY/photo/split/normal/MPAVLINOVICH_SPLIT_1.jpg
HFP i Kerum potpisali ugovor o kupnji Hotela Marjan
Hotel Marjan najvjerojatnije će ući u svjetski hotelski lanac Radisson SAS
SPLIT - Predsjednik Hrvatskog fonda za privatizaciju Damir Ostović i direktor splitske tvrtke Neva Kerum d.o.o. Jakov Kerum, nećak vlasnika Kerum grupe, poznatog splitskog poduzetnika Željka Keruma, u utorak su potpisali ugovor o kupnji 87,83 posto udjela u vlasništvu tvrtke Adriatic d.d., vlasnika splitskog Hotela Marjan. Na temelju ugovora Neva Kerum će HFP-u u roku od 30 dana uplatiti 170 milijuna kuna, a u iduće dvije godine u obnovu potpuno devastiranog Hotela Marjan uložit će još 190 milijuna kuna. Željko Kerum najavljuje da će Marjan postati »biserom ovog dijela Mediterana« te da će imati pet zvjezdica i biti otvoren cijele godine, a najvjerojatnije će ući u lanac od 247 hotela svjetskog branda Radisson SAS.
»Ovo je veliki dan za Hotel Marjan i tvrtku Kerum, kao i za Split, cijelu Hrvatsku pa i HFP, budući da je ovo jedan od najboljih poslova koji smo sklopili u posljednje dvije godine. Očekujem da će Marjan postati najboljim splitskim hotelom i da će se lokalni poduzetnik i u ovome poslu pokazati uspješnim, kao što se pokazao i u trgovini«, kazao je Damir Ostović.
Željko Kerum je početak radova na obnovi hotela najavio već za 1. rujna. Rok dovršetka je dvije godine, no Kerum očekuje da će sve biti gotovo za 20 mjeseci, kada će Marjan otvoriti vrata svojim prvim gostima.
»Rokovi će ovisiti o brzini dobivanja suglasnosti za lokacijsku i građevinsku dozvolu od grada i županije. U konačnici, kada vratimo sve dugove hotela i kada ga obnovimo, očekujem da ćemo potrošiti 450 milijuna kuna. U Marjanu će, osim kongresnih dvorana, biti i spa-wellness centar. Na ovaj smo način pokazali kako je moguće da splitska tvrtka kupi splitsku tvrtku i da ona ostane u splitskim rukama, a da su poduzetnici to i do sada radili ne bi nam tolike tvrtke propale. Prioritet pri odabiru izvođača radova na obnovi također će imati splitska poduzeća«, najavio je Željko Kerum.
Odlukom Upravnog odbora HFP-a, Kerum je izabran kao najbolji ponuđač na natječaju za kupnju 87,83 posto dionica Adriatica, u sklopu kojeg je Hotel Marjan. Početna cijena na natječaju je bila 57,5 milijuna kuna, a Neva Kerum je ponudila 170 milijuna kuna uz dokapitalizaciju vlastitim sredstvima. Kerum će zadržati 101 zaposlenika, a kroz tri godine planira zaposliti dodatnih 113 radnika.
Keruma financijski prati HVB Splitska banka. Poslovni sustav Kerum zapošljava više od 2000 ljudi.
OettingerCroat June 30th, 2005, 03:43 PM hey im in split at my grandparents, and i didnt know that that apartment complex that u guys r talkin about is RIGHT IN FRONT of my apartment building. there are currently 5 cranes up, next to the old bus stop and a Raiffeisen bank nearby. its sure to be a spiffy looking building. also, they are renovating a whole bunch of these "stabenjaci," and getting rid of all these shitty Communist building facades. if the building of this complex was just 150 m farther south, it'd block my view of the Jadran! that would sux.....
mic of Orion June 30th, 2005, 05:19 PM hey im in split at my grandparents, and i didnt know that that apartment complex that u guys r talkin about is RIGHT IN FRONT of my apartment building. there are currently 5 cranes up, next to the old bus stop and a Raiffeisen bank nearby. its sure to be a spiffy looking building. also, they are renovating a whole bunch of these "stabenjaci," and getting rid of all these shitty Communist building facades. if the building of this complex was just 150 m farther south, it'd block my view of the Jadran! that would sux.....
Price of progress, lol :rofl: :rofl:
bubach_hlubach June 30th, 2005, 07:36 PM hey im in split at my grandparents, and i didnt know that that apartment complex that u guys r talkin about is RIGHT IN FRONT of my apartment building. there are currently 5 cranes up, next to the old bus stop and a Raiffeisen bank nearby. its sure to be a spiffy looking building. also, they are renovating a whole bunch of these "stabenjaci," and getting rid of all these shitty Communist building facades. if the building of this complex was just 150 m farther south, it'd block my view of the Jadran! that would sux.....
Well, you know how that one goes - a picture says a thousand words ;) Why wouldn't you apply this magic formula while being in Split ? :)
SinCity July 1st, 2005, 03:12 AM hey im in split at my grandparents, and i didnt know that that apartment complex that u guys r talkin about is RIGHT IN FRONT of my apartment building. there are currently 5 cranes up, next to the old bus stop and a Raiffeisen bank nearby. its sure to be a spiffy looking building. also, they are renovating a whole bunch of these "stabenjaci," and getting rid of all these shitty Communist building facades. if the building of this complex was just 150 m farther south, it'd block my view of the Jadran! that would sux.....
Which apartment complex? There's lots of them coming up in Split. :D
OettingerCroat July 2nd, 2005, 10:47 PM its that 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 (how precise i am) story one with the blue and fuschia colored facades and the iron rails on the balconies..... ill try and fish it up from the last few pages on the thread.... also, ill be happy to take the pics, just theres hardly anything going on yet. just some concrete and steel cable. but ill takes some photos, i brought my kodak 4 MP camera with me
bokiii July 8th, 2005, 03:35 AM A metro wont be happening in Split, although it would be highly interesting in a way similar to the Athens subway which took ages as countless artefacts kept being unearthed.
It would be the same for former Roman Split and all the treasures that lay beneath the city.
As Mick said, its too small for metro but the trams are most likely going to make a comeback.
I have heard that a new inter-city bus station is planned. One of many projects under consideration for Split (Spalato)
Anything interesting found from Roma timesin the las couple of years while building new buildings?
AstroBoy July 25th, 2005, 12:59 PM Maltese firm wins architecture contest
A model of the commercial building in Split, Croatia, that won the competition. :)
http://www.timesofmalta.com/images/20050725_loc_06.jpg
The Maltese architectural practice Architecture Project (AP), has been awarded first prize in an international design competition for the realisation of a 15-floor high commercial building in Split, Croatia.
Launched in January by the Municipality of the City of Split and the Society of Architects of Split, the competition called for an urban and architectural proposal for the development of a 10,400 square-metre site intended as a landmark building at the entrance of the new part of the town.
The project was prepared in collaboration with local architect Darija Sinovcic and local engineering firm Imos-Invest led by its senior partner Ivo Orlandini.
The award ceremony took place at the premises of the Society of Architects of Split on July 14 and was followed by the opening of an exhibition of all the entries.
In May 2004, AP set up a practice in Split which is led by its local partner, Drazen Krvavica. It provides architectural and engineering consultancy services for projects in Split and on the islands off the Croatian coast.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=194333
Comments? What do people think about the design? I like it :)
long foot July 25th, 2005, 01:07 PM Comments? What do people think about the design? I like it :)
;)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=146034&page=3&pp=20
AstroBoy July 25th, 2005, 01:11 PM I figured it was that one but at least it shows a better image and gives more details about the project. I see you were given their official award a few days ago.
bubach_hlubach July 25th, 2005, 07:22 PM Interesting :)
OettingerCroat July 25th, 2005, 08:11 PM i like it, but this is split after all! some places don't look good with high-rise buildings. imagine a high-rise in Venice or some place. i don't know how well something like this will fit in split.
rijeka je mozda povoljnija
mic of Orion July 25th, 2005, 09:23 PM i like it, but this is split after all! some places don't look good with high-rise buildings. imagine a high-rise in Venice or some place. i don't know how well something like this will fit in split.
rijeka je mozda povoljnija
I think Tower won't be built in historical centre, I hope not, lol...
Split already has some towers, although residential, none the less they are tall and in newly build areas of Split, sorry don't know the district names, I was once staying in this part for few days with my Split friends, lol when I was on holiday,...
OettingerCroat July 26th, 2005, 01:08 AM when i was drivng to split a couple times earlier this summer, you can see it has at least 250 commie blocks, and they're all crammed together very densely. but they're all basically the same height and ALL are the same color, lol.
SinCity July 26th, 2005, 01:40 AM when i was drivng to split a couple times earlier this summer, you can see it has at least 250 commie blocks, and they're all crammed together very densely. but they're all basically the same height and ALL are the same color, lol.
Thats the first thing that you see when you approach Split after you pass Trogir. That huge dense wall of highrise apartments which is beyond the old city. This new office tower would work well in Split IMO. Its being built in some new part of town. Split needs to pick up its gain when it comes to business because Rijeka is going to wallop Split in the long run.
OettingerCroat July 26th, 2005, 06:38 AM definitely. but like someone said, Rome:Split::Milan:Rijeka. Ones old, ones new. business can thrive without highrises. usually, tho, it doesnt. lol
mic of Orion July 26th, 2005, 07:12 PM definitely. but like someone said, Rome:Split::Milan:Rijeka. Ones old, ones new. business can thrive without highrises. usually, tho, it doesnt. lol
lol, it was I, lol
OettingerCroat July 27th, 2005, 04:32 AM :lol: well thanx im very appreciative of it :colgate:
bubach_hlubach July 27th, 2005, 08:07 AM ^ A kako si bija u Splitu, i nista nisi snimija. Moga si komotno opaliti par snimki projekata ili onako sa gradilista i malo nan svim ovdi podignut moral, aeee :) lol
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SinCity July 27th, 2005, 08:14 AM I have a new digital camera but I am miles away from Croatia to take any pics. Maybe next year if you are all lucky. ;)
OettingerCroat July 27th, 2005, 08:25 AM ^ A kako si bija u Splitu, i nista nisi snimija. Moga si komotno opaliti par snimki projekata ili onako sa gradilista i malo nan svim ovdi podignut moral, aeee :) lol
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hehe, i was actually spending most of my time in a split commie block this summer, lol. and like i said, there was no construction going on koji bi podignuo ikome moral. Just some steel cable and foundation concrete. I don't even know what the project was, lol.
bubach_hlubach July 27th, 2005, 08:35 AM I have a new digital camera but I am miles away from Croatia to take any pics. Maybe next year if you are all lucky. ;)
Cool :okay:
Just don't be complaining about your camera how LF has about his camera lol that actually works normal and can make good photos :)
SinCity July 27th, 2005, 08:42 AM Cool :okay:
Just don't be complaining about your camera how LF has about his camera lol that actually works normal and can make good photos :)
Long Foot's pics are excellent. Where would we be without them? :)
bubach_hlubach July 27th, 2005, 09:02 AM ^ That is very true! LF totaly rulez, great colleague :)
Also, we may not forget to clone LF before he leaves for his sacred duty ;) :D
Evo da nazdravimo jednu u njegovo ime :cheers:
bubach_hlubach July 28th, 2005, 07:40 AM The city of Split a little while ago :
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OettingerCroat July 28th, 2005, 07:41 AM ^ lets play count the commieblocks! :rofl:
bubach_hlubach July 28th, 2005, 07:51 AM ^ A ca se ti gori smis ka da je tvoji SF u Amerikama nesto bolji, aee :D
...hvalile se Kastelanke da su lipse no Splicanke, ali Sveti Duje nece niti da cuje ;) :p
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SinCity July 28th, 2005, 08:10 AM ^ lets play count the commieblocks! :rofl:
I wouldn't even dare to begin counting them :D
Anyone know what Split's tallest building is? Obviously a commie bloc of sorts.
bubach_hlubach July 28th, 2005, 08:30 AM I wouldn't even dare to begin counting them :D
Anyone one what Split's tallest building is? Obviously a commie bloc of sorts.
It doesnt necessarily have to be some commie highrise, maybe the winner is Split-tower (Banana Split) :banana2: :D
BTW guys, what Split needs tall towers for?
How many cities in the world have what Split has? I can tell you for sure, not too many, but you know that too.
Towers can build everybody everywhere at any time, but a city like Split you can no longer build.
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SinCity July 28th, 2005, 09:01 AM I think its already too late. Surely you must have seen the thick skyline of commie blocks approaching Split ..... :D
OettingerCroat July 29th, 2005, 05:20 AM ^ A ca se ti gori smis ka da je tvoji SF u Amerikama nesto bolji, aee :D
...hvalile se Kastelanke da su lipse no Splicanke, ali Sveti Duje nece niti da cuje ;) :p
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oprosti bubach, ali je bolji. DALEKO bolji. ja sam hrvatski patriota i sve to, ali je bolji. danas sam cijeli u boga dan proveo u SF, i STVARNO se vidi kako je to predivan grad, na svaki nacin. nemogu ti to objsniti, mislim, sve one mostove, pa onda Piramida, pa SVE one drucije kulture u raznim dijelovima grada (kineska, japanska, talijanska, etc.), pa predivna klima, pa divno more, pa divne plaze, pa Fisherman's Wharf, pa ciste ulice, pa uspinjace (Cable Cars), pa tramvaji (svi su stari i visokopodni; da znas kako bi lijepo izgledali par Crotram-a tamo!), pa onda UN plaza (di se osnovao UN)
mislim SF JE MOGUCE NAJBOLJI GRAD NA SVJETU, NA SVAKOM NACINU.
ja ne volim ameriku uopce, ali SF je uber-odlican. Daleko najbolji grad u Americi.
sorry bubach, it beat Split's ass, and about 98% of all the other cities in the world.
SinCity July 29th, 2005, 05:34 AM No, no, it cannot beat Sydney's ass ..... :D
bubach_hlubach July 29th, 2005, 05:36 AM oprosti bubach, ali je bolji. DALEKO bolji. ja sam hrvatski patriota i sve to, ali je bolji. danas sam cijeli u boga dan proveo u SF, i STVARNO se vidi kako je to predivan grad, na svaki nacin. nemogu ti to objsniti, mislim, sve one mostove, pa onda Piramida, pa SVE one drucije kulture u raznim dijelovima grada (kineska, japanska, talijanska, etc.), pa predivna klima, pa divno more, pa divne plaze, pa Fisherman's Wharf, pa ciste ulice, pa uspinjace (Cable Cars), pa tramvaji (svi su stari i visokopodni; da znas kako bi lijepo izgledali par Crotram-a tamo!), pa onda UN plaza (di se osnovao UN)
mislim SF JE MOGUCE NAJBOLJI GRAD NA SVJETU, NA SVAKOM NACINU.
ja ne volim ameriku uopce, ali SF je uber-odlican. Daleko najbolji grad u Americi.
sorry bubach, it beat Split's ass, and about 98% of all the other cities in the world.
Ono je bila samo sala. Kao prvo kak uopce mozes usporedjivati Split i SF, dva grada koja nemaju ama bas nikaj zajednickoga - totalna su suprotnost.
SF je hrpa betona i zeljeza, zagadjen i prljav, dok Split je drevni i sarmantni mediteranski grad! :)
-NISTA KONTRA SPLITA- :D
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OettingerCroat July 29th, 2005, 05:37 AM yeah, now that you mention it, i heard sydney is trully spectacular as well. well, i guess it falls into those 2% of cities that can compete with SF.
OettingerCroat July 29th, 2005, 07:41 AM bubach, nisam ljut, ali da ti nesto objasnim: sf nije kao ostala amerika. NIJE UOPCE ZAGADJEN, VJERUJ MI! jednako je sporak kao Split, odprilike. Split nije bas nesto fantasticno cist ovih dana; ja bih znao, bio sam tamo za skoro 2 tjedna ovo ljeto.
i ako je ijedan grad betonjara, to je split, prijatelju. PRIJE PET MINUTA SMO GOVORILI KOLIKO IMA ONIH PIZDINSKIH COMMIEBLOCK-OVA PO SPLITU. :rofl:
i vidjet cemo zasto je SF pun betona i zeljeza. obja grada imaju potencijal za katastrofalne potrese. kada je onaj potres of 6.9 zadramo SF prije 16 godina, nista osim ono govno od mosta (za kojega sad gradu zamjenu) blize Oaklandu nego SF-u, nije palo.
Ako 4.5 udre split, "domino row" ce poceti s onim commieblock-ovima.
I ja bas mislim da se mogu uspordjivati; oba dva grada su velike morske luke, oba dvoje su daleko od glavnog grada drzave, i oba dva imaju veliki broj stanovnika u odnosu na glavni grad.
Ipak moje srce lupa za oba dva grada. to su gradovi moje mladosti i moga zivota. ali SF je bolji. nema se tu nista diskutirati.
bubach_hlubach July 29th, 2005, 07:59 AM Jel bolji Zagreb ili Toronto ? Budimpesta ili New York? :D E ne moze!
Moze biti samo Zagreb vs. Budimpesta i Toronto vs. New York, kuzis sprehu? ;)
Split se ne moze usporedjivati sa SF-om koji vjerovatno ima vise stanovnika nego cijela Hrvatska, vec se moze usporedjivati s njemu slicnijim gradovima napr. na zapadnoj obali jadranskog mora (Italija), ili pak s nekim gradovima juzne Francuske.
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OettingerCroat July 29th, 2005, 08:35 AM goddamn it... bubach could u delete it? it came out with my next one, thx....
OettingerCroat July 29th, 2005, 08:36 AM not continuing the arguement, just fyi, SF has about 750,000 ppl, and split has what 206,000? yes it larger but not like Tokyo compared to Karlobag or something.
and i think it compares best to a city like Rotterdam or Antwerpen, to be honest.
i think this next statement can express my position without starting a fight: Even though i am Croatian, dislike the US and have no reason to defend it, I enjoy being in SF more than in Split. :colgate:
ice-man July 29th, 2005, 01:41 PM Just back to Australia after spending a few weeks in Croatia(Mainly Split). I could not believe the amount of graffiti in Split. It just reinforces the fact that we come from the balkans. Surely other cities in western Europe do not have that amount of graffiti. Zagreb was not much better. For a country trying to get out of the Balkans and trying to establish itself as a premier tourist destination it was pretty sad.
Split does have heaps of potential, but a lot of money is needed (they can start by knocking down the commie flats.)
mic of Orion July 29th, 2005, 02:32 PM not continuing the arguement, just fyi, SF has about 750,000 ppl, and split has what 206,000? yes it larger but not like Tokyo compared to Karlobag or something.
and i think it compares best to a city like Rotterdam or Antwerpen, to be honest.
i think this next statement can express my position without starting a fight: Even though i am Croatian, dislike the US and have no reason to defend it, I enjoy being in SF more than in Split. :colgate:
San Fran, is way much better than Split, I have been to both cities, although my opinion in this issue is irrelevant, I prefer San Fran to any US city, Seattle is also great place but living in San Francisco is great, architecture from colonial style to post modern, although I do admit third of the population could be gay as (it is gay capitol of USA) it is very liberal city, perhaps most liberal city in USA, New York and Boston are very liberal but I still think SF is more liberal..
In San Francisco multicultural society lives on all levels, great China Town for lovers of Chinese food this is paradise on earth, and after all it is seat of Star Fleet, lol... I was often in San Francisco cose of our work (Novalgic and Logitech are 2 of our accounts) and I would love to ce all this nice architecture, my girlfriend is from Berkeley which is only 30 miles away from San Francisco, well she now lives in Pasadena, lol... Anyways San Francisco is great place, it is not as old and as historical as Split, but I love it..
bubach_hlubach July 29th, 2005, 06:50 PM Just back to Australia after spending a few weeks in Croatia(Mainly Split). I could not believe the amount of graffiti in Split. It just reinforces the fact that we come from the balkans. Surely other cities in western Europe do not have that amount of graffiti. Zagreb was not much better. For a country trying to get out of the Balkans and trying to establish itself as a premier tourist destination it was pretty sad.
Split does have heaps of potential, but a lot of money is needed (they can start by knocking down the commie flats.)
As far i as i am concerned, graffiti don't originate from Croatia or Balkans, and were never part of Croatia's culture, they were 'imported' as urban trends from the west. Regarding the amount of graffiti, city authorities are to blame cuz they've done nothing to prevent the trends of graffiti - Zagreb and Split, but on the other hand there are no graffiti in Dubrovnik and Varazdin.
Why would anybody want to knock down those commies in Split? What about those people that live in the commies, and where are they supposed to live?
Oh yeah, they could move out to live on the streets, so the commies can be demolished, and make Split look the coolest city in the world :D lol
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bubach_hlubach July 29th, 2005, 06:58 PM not continuing the arguement, just fyi, SF has about 750,000 ppl, and split has what 206,000? yes it larger but not like Tokyo compared to Karlobag or something.
and i think it compares best to a city like Rotterdam or Antwerpen, to be honest.
i think this next statement can express my position without starting a fight: Even though i am Croatian, dislike the US and have no reason to defend it, I enjoy being in SF more than in Split. :colgate:
It's not arguing geeez, i just find it extremely funny to compare Split to SF, or SF to Split :)
San Francisco :
http://www.darkroompeople.com/wallpapers/800/bigimages/047%20san%20francisco.jpg
Split :
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7452/split8rur750dw.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1494/msplit656sf.jpg
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OettingerCroat July 30th, 2005, 02:02 AM It's not arguing geeez, i just find it extremely funny to compare Split to SF, or SF to Split :)
:cheers:
i know, i know, i meant debate, you know i did ;)
AstroBoy July 30th, 2005, 02:46 AM I see Split and San Francisco are edging towards all out war. :D
These 2 cities are totally different to one another.
OettingerCroat August 18th, 2005, 10:22 PM Brazil draw with Croatia in friendly
(Reuters)
Updated: 2005-08-18 09:42
SPLIT, Croatia, Aug 17 (Reuters) - Croatia held Brazil to a 1-1 draw on Wednesday in a friendly dominated by the world champions.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/LardySlovenian/soccerich.jpg
Ronaldo (R) of Brazil and Josip Simunic of Croatia chase the ball during their friendly match in the Adriatic port city of Split August 17, 2005.
The home side's early hard work paid off in the 32nd minute when CSKA Moscow forward Ivica Olic hit the post and Niko Kranjcar slotted in the rebound.
Brazil hit back 10 minutes later when Ricardinho sent an 18-metre free kick into the top right-hand corner of the net.
The South Americans went close to taking the lead in the 69th minute when Adriano struck the post.
Adriano also went wide with a header, as did Ronaldo with a shot from the edge of the box.
Both countries fielded their strongest possible teams as they warmed up for World Cup qualifiers in September.
Brazil were only without Ronaldinho and Roque Junior, who are suspended for the tie with Chile on September 4.
"It was evident that my players are not yet in their best condition. They are still lacking regular competitive rhythm. Taking all that into consideration, I think that a draw was a fair outcome," Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira told reporters.
Croatia, who missed injured Rangers striker Dado Prso, top European Zone Group Eight with 16 points.
They are one point ahead of Sweden and six ahead of Hungary. Croatia go to Iceland for their next qualifier on September 3 before meeting Malta four days later.
Croatia coach Zlatko Kranjcar said: "We showed that we can compete with the best players in the world.
"My team fulfilled the tasks I gave them and I'm convinced we can look forward to our coming World Cup qualifiers with optimism."
Brazil have not lost to a European team since they were beaten 2-1 by Portugal in March 2003.
OettingerCroat August 18th, 2005, 10:26 PM pretty picture of split at night
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/LardySlovenian/SplitSkyline.jpg
OettingerCroat August 19th, 2005, 08:01 AM hey im curious, can those commieblocks be refaced/renovated to look worth anything? :lol:
like a normal skyskraper, or at least like the new "commieblock replacement apartment buildings" they are building all over the place?
SinCity August 19th, 2005, 08:30 AM Its easy to spruce up these towers. Just a lick of quality paint will do the trick. Most of them are fine and a good blast from a high pressure water treatment will make them shine like new. :)
mic of Orion August 19th, 2005, 03:27 PM Rekordan broj, čak 17.000 putnika u samo jednom danu, potvrdio je ove sezone, više nego ikada do sada, potrebu Zračne luke Split za što hitnijim proširenjem stajanke, koja je napravljena još 1966. godine, a prije 12 godina neznatno proširena. Tada su u Resnik slijetali zrakoplovi sa svega 50-ak putnika, a danas su sve češći s više od 300 putnika.
- Najprometnije su subote pa je tako u pet subota ostvaren promet kao i u svih 25 dana u srpnju. Da bismo uspjeli otpremiti toliki broj putnika i prihvatiti velike zrakoplove, morali smo uložiti znatno više napora u organizaciju rada. Uz 380 stalnih zaposlili smo i 50-ak sezonaca. No, posebno je došao do izražaja ograničen kapacitet stajanke - rekao je dr. Slavko Roguljić, voditelj prometno-tehničkog sektora Zračne luke Split, i dodao kako im je to sada prioritet.
Počeli su izradu idejnog projekta, a o početku radova i visini ulaganja još je rano govoriti. S obzirom na stroge međunarodne propise, koji traže gotovo vodoravnu površinu i nagib tla u Resniku, ulaganje će zasigurno biti pozamašno. Za sada je sigurno jedino da bi radovi trebali završiti 2008. godine. Inače, u posljednje dvije godine u proširenje i rekonstrukciju putničkog terminala uloženo je 50 milijuna kuna.
U prvih sedam mjeseci ove godine 551.000 putnika prošla je kroza zračnu luku u Resniku, a ostvareno je povećanje od gotovo 18 posto u usporedbi s istim razdobljem prošle godine.
- Do kraja godine očekujemo oko 900.000 putnika, čime ćemo dosegnuti predratnu 1989. godinu. Očekivali smo porast, ali ne toliki, i sigurno je da smo više nego zadovoljni ovogodišnjim prometom - rekao je dr. Roguljić.
Rekordna 1987. godina, kada je zabilježeno 1,125.000 putnika, više nije tako nedostižna. Razlika je u omjeru međunarodnog i domaćeg prometa, što je i razumljivo s obzirom na broj putnika iz bivše države. Prije rata međunarodni putnici činili su svega pet posto više prometa nego domaći, a sada je udio stranaca 80 posto. Posljednje dvije godine osobito je porastao broj putnika iz skandinavskih zemalja, odakle subotom doleti i do 16 zrakoplova.
Slijede ih Britanci i Nijemci. Putnike dočekuje dobro održavan zeleni okoliš, s ukrasnim stablima i travom, a najviše pozornosti privlači maslinik s oko 600 stabala. U Resniku su prije 14 godina počeli saditi masline i tada su bili prvi među našim zračnim lukama.
Prošle su godine imali 390 litara ekstra djevičanskog ulja koje posebno flaširaju i daruju poslovnim partnerima. Dva su puta čak dobili nagrade za kvalitetu. Preko piste u Resniku u prvih je sedam mjeseci ove godine prošlo 4857 zrakoplova, što je 13 posto više nego u istom razdoblju prošle godine, dok se broj putnika povećao čak 18 posto.
Splitski je aerodrom prvi u Hrvatskoj nedavno omogućio putnicima da se samostalno registriraju za let i time djelomično rasteretio šaltere, a otvorena su i dva nova međunarodna izlaska pa ih je sada ukupno šest.
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050816/pos-resnik-txt.jpg
News about Split Airport, my Croatian is not as good so my translation won't be as accurate, but it says, Split Airport had 18% more passengers in first 6 months and it is excepted about 900 000 passengers to use Split Airport this year. An investment in to enlarging apron (stajanka ?) and Terminal building to cope with more traffic and passengers...
Next year it is expected Split Airport to achieve its pre-war figures and attract over 1.1 million passengers thought its gates...
To achieve this and expand the terminal - an investment of 50 million Euros has been secured and it is planed airport will expanded to meet next challenges...
Airport is 3rd largest in Croatia and during summer months it does most of its business, whilst during winter months traffic thought the airport rarely goes over 30% of actual cappacity...
http://www.split-airport.hr/album/Putnicka_out/Velike/sl_1.jpg
Split Airport currently has capacity of only 1 million passengers...
http://www.split-airport.hr/album/Putnicka_out/Velike/sl_10.jpg
OettingerCroat August 19th, 2005, 06:31 PM jeeeeeeez, 1.125.000 is just friggin ridiculous
so when is the terminal expansion coming?
mic of Orion August 19th, 2005, 07:55 PM jeeeeeeez, 1.125.000 is just friggin ridiculous
so when is the terminal expansion coming?
I don't know, dose it not say in the article? than we must call Split airport, lol and find out when they plan to do all this works... Looks promising but Split throughout the year is not busy airport, I think, about 6 months of they year it barely has 200 000 passengers going thought (combined) the airport, for 2 months it handles actual capacity of the airport, and only for 4 months does the airport get very busy and can barely cope with traffic...
Same as Dubrovnik, but I am hoping new start ups such a Adriatic Air, Sun Adria and Dubrovnik will significantly contribute to airport activities of all airports in Croatia not to mention Budget Airlines which are planning there new routes in Croatia, as you know from next year onwards Croatia will open its sky's to all Budget airlines... This might increase number of tourist in quiet months significantly, look at Riga, which is not very Attractive city, but it attracts many tourist due to the cheep flights, lets hope Split, Zadar, Dubrovnik and Pula can attract this kind of numbers as well.
I think they'll only double the size of Apron which is very small I think it can accommodate at best 7-8 medium sized aircrafts (medium sized aircraft B737, A319, A320). I think What split needs is larger terminal as one in use is way t small to cope with traffic, say increase the terminal size to 15 000 sq. meters or even bigger... I think current terminal is only 5500 sq. meters...
OettingerCroat August 19th, 2005, 09:02 PM ok, i read the artice more in-depth... says that terminal enlarging and reconstruction will be completed by 2008. doesnt mention how large it will become.
OettingerCroat August 19th, 2005, 09:29 PM Its easy to spruce up these towers. Just a lick of quality paint will do the trick. Most of them are fine and a good blast from a high pressure water treatment will make them shine like new. :)
sc, when you say paint em, you mean like those very first projects you posted on this thread?
SinCity August 22nd, 2005, 12:52 AM ^^ You can re-coat them with very durable paint surfaces these days which are much better then the material originally used on these structures.
SinCity August 22nd, 2005, 12:53 AM Thanks Mic on the Split airport update. These budget airlines will further increase tourism numbers dramatically to Croatia and also in the off season period too. :yes:
OettingerCroat August 25th, 2005, 01:30 AM NA ’MIRNU’ UPALO 200 VOJNIKA I
ZATOČILO 17 HRVATSKIH POMORACA
Upad se dogodio na dan kada je "Mirna" - po sudskom rješenju - trebala slobodno isploviti nakon godinu dana provedenih na mrtvom vezu zbog optužbi za neovlašteni prijevoz plemenitog drva
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050824/hrv-kepaetan-txt.jpg
SPLIT - Oko 200 naoružanih pripadnika indonezijske ratne mornarice upalo je u utorak ujutro po hrvatskom vremenu na brod "Mirna", iz flote Lošinjske plovidbe, koji se nalazi u luci Wandammen Teluk, te zatočilo svih 17 članova posade, potvrdio nam je Zlatko Moković, direktor tvrtke sa sjedištem u Rijeci.
Intervencija vojnih snaga dogodila se upravo na dan kada je "Mirni", teretnjaku nosivosti 13.544 tone, trebalo biti dopušteno slobodno isplovljavanje, nakon što je na temelju pravomoćnog sudskog rješenja Lošinjska plovidba oslobođena optužbi za neodgovarajuće dokumente i neovlašteni prijevoz plemenitog drva, zbog čega brod već gotovo godinu dana boravi na mrtvom vezu.
Postupak je počeo u siječnju, kazao nam je Moković, a okončan je u svibnju ove godine, pri čemu je visoki sud na otoku Javi omogućio isplovljavanje, ali nakon što zapovjednik plati kaznu od 2200 američkih dolara, što je na koncu i učinio.
— Naši pomorci, na čelu sa zapovjednikom kap. Josom Nekićem, doživjeli su pravi desant dvjesto do zuba naoružanih vojnika, koji su se bez ikakva obrazloženja ukrcali na "Mirnu". Nitko nije ozlijeđen, ali situacija nije bila nimalo ugodna, premda je nakon nekoliko sati većina nepozvanih gostiju napustila brod, na kojem je ostalo samo 12 vojnika - kazao nam je Moković i dodao:
— Riječ je o očevidnom nepoštovanju pravomoćne sudske presude od lučkih i lokalnih vlasti, jer je na temelju sudskog naređenja mornarica bila dužna prepratiti brod do međunarodnih voda. U suradnji s našim veleposlanstvom u Džakarti, te vladom i ministarstvom vanjskih poslova Indonezije, pokušat ćemo doći do ostvarenja legalne presude i konačnog isplovljavanja broda.
Brod za opći teret "Mirna" početkom rujna prošle godine zaplijenila je ratna mornarica Indonezije, a kao glavni krivac za probleme, koji su tada smatrani privremenima, označen je unajmitelj broda, tvrtka Admiral Shipping. Spomenuta kompanija, kako se isticalo, nije pribavila potrebnu dokumentaciju za prijevoz 10 tisuća kubika balvana unutar indonežanskih luka. "Mirna" se od tada nalazi na mrtvom vezu, ali posada ima mogućnost normalne komunikacije i periodički odlazi u Hrvatsku.
"Mirna" je duga 151 i široka 26 metara, izgrađena je 1979. godine u brodogradilištu "Kochi Jukogyo" u Japanu, pod imenom "Washington Wood", a u floti Lošinjske plovidbe nalazi se od 1987. godine. Pokreće je pogonski stroj od 6800 kilovata koji omogućava razvijanje brzine od 14 čvorova.
SinCity August 25th, 2005, 06:28 AM ^^ The Indonesians are one of the biggest bunch of wankers on this planet. They are so rascist towards white people. :mad:
SinCity August 25th, 2005, 06:34 AM A former heavy industrial site close to Split will be flattened to make way for a new resort complex consisting of service apartments, marina, etc. Its expected to be completed in 5 years time. :)
This is the current abondoned industrial site "Dalmacija" ....
http://www.hns-split.com/SLIKE/dugi_rat_2.jpg
'Dalmacija' konačno dobija novog vlasnika
Autor MAJA PEJKOVIĆ-KAĆANSKI
Idućih desetak dana zagrebački konzorcij "Tilija", koja je na posljednjem, šestom javnom nadmetanju održanom potkraj lipnja na splitskom Trgovačkom sudu kupila propalu dugoratsku tvornicu ferolegura "Dalmacija", trebala bi uplatiti 10 milijuna eura, cijenu izlicitiranu na toj dražbi.
- Ugovor o kupoprodaji "Dalmacije" potpisali smo 4.srpnja, Trgovački sud u Splitu potvrdio ga je 1.kolovoza i Raiffeisen Verband Bank iz Salzburga spremna je uplatiti dogovorenih 10 milijuna eura, izjavio je za Večernji list Milan Perkovac, prvi čovjek zagrebačke "Tilije".
Slijedi potpis ugovora
Naglašava kako su tijekom proteklih dana budući investitori velikog turističkog kompleksa u Dugom Ratu uspjeli od Suda u Omišu ishoditi zabilježbu prvenstvenog reda koju su zatražili temeljem čl.72 Zakona o zemljišnim knjigama. Naime, partneri "Tilije" i banka koja ih prati su, prema riječima Perkovca, zatražili taj dokument kako se ne bi eventualno dogodilo da se netko u međuvremenu ne upiše u Zemljišnik.
- Sve su zapreke otklonjene, novac je spreman i "Tilija" će vjerojatno već u drugoj polovici rujna započeti sanaciju terena na kojem će za najviše pet godina niknuti luksuzni turistički kompleks sa marinom, tvrdi direktor zagrebačkog konzorcija.
Turistički kompleks
Naglašava kako je "Tilija" dobila i pozitivno rješenje Visokog trgovačkog suda iz Zagreba kojim je potvrđeno da je za 24 milijuna kuna kupila na javnoj dražbi i sestrinsku tvrtku "Dalmacija-CG stupovi". Visoki Trgovački sud u Zagrebu ukinuo je naime rješenje splitskog Trgovačkog suda te potvrdio da je "Tilija" vlasnik i "CG-stupova".
Na oko dvjesto tisuća metara četvornih prostora u Dugom Ratu trebala bi s partnerima izgraditi kompleks s hotelima visoke kategorije, marinu sa stotinjak vezova i pripadajućim servisom te stambene zgrade.
Daniela August 25th, 2005, 11:44 PM pretty picture of split at night
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/LardySlovenian/SplitSkyline.jpg
Loved to see Split at night... It reminded me of the wonderful days I spent there a couple of weels :) Thank you!
Daniela August 25th, 2005, 11:47 PM :laugh: Loved to see Split at night... It reminded me of the wonderful days I spent there a couple of weels :) Thank you!
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 06:10 AM It nearly sent Croatia's greatest tennis star broke, but anyway here are some pics of his office-residential-retail construction project that was recently completed in his home city of Split.
I had no idea how large and very sophisticated the complex is :eek: .....
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV5.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV2.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV8.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV3.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV10.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV11.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV1.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV4.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV13.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV12.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV9.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV7.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV6.jpg
bubach_hlubach September 5th, 2005, 06:51 AM woooow :runaway:
Love the design of that, looks kinda unique too :)
I sure hope Ivanisevic didnt file bankruptcy after putting that much of money into this complex ;)
In worst case scenario he can always sell some of his assets - quite a few restaurants and yachts :D
:cheers:
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 07:11 AM woooow :runaway:
Love the design of that, looks kinda unique too :)
I sure hope Ivanisevic didnt file bankruptcy after putting that much of money into this complex ;)
In worst case scenario he can always sell some of his assets - quite a few restaurants and yachts :D
:cheers:
Me too. I had no idea the scale of the project, nor the fantastic design. Aesthetically its very pleasant. :yes:
I hope it doesn't put him off doing this again as I would love to see more of across Croatia.
Reminds me of 1930s Tel Aviv for some reason.
OettingerCroat September 10th, 2005, 07:08 AM Šećer s carine dobar golubovima i ljudima
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/20050909/images/st2a.jpg
Gotovo svih 50 tona zaplijenjenog šećera, smještenog u carinskom skladištu u Sjevernoj luci, zdravstveno je ispravno i može služiti za ljudsku uporabu, potvrdile su analize splitskog i zagrebačkog laboratorija u koje je Granična sanitarna inspekcija poslala uzorke te namirnice. Time su, čini se, uklonjene dvojbe oko sudbine uskladištene robe koja, kako neslužbeno doznajemo, već dvije godine leži u neuvjetnom prostoru na zapadnom dijelu luke.
U Carinarnicu Split stigao je nalaz stručnjaka županijskog Zavoda za javno zdravstvo, prema kojima je šećer mikrobiološki ispravan, što znači da nije zagađen bakterijama, plijesnima... Analiza je upotpunjena podacima iz Zagreba o kemijskoj provjeri, prema kojoj isti taj šećer ne sadrži štetne kemijske spojeve, pa se iz svega toga može zaključiti kako je uskladištena namirnica sanitarno uredna i moći će se iskoristiti za prehrambene svrhe.
Zbog neuvjetnog smještaja u lučkom skladištu i raspuknutih vreća, neslužbeno doznajemo da ipak nije iskoristiva cijela količina zaplijenjene robe jer su neznatne količine šećera s vrha pakiranja bile izložene vanjskom utjecaju.
— Prema prvim procjenama, veći dio robe nalazi se na suhom, ali neke vreće na vrhu paleta su prekrivene golubljim izmetom. Dio pakiranja je probijen, pa ćemo pravo stanje znati za četiri do pet dana, kada obavimo temeljitu analizu u Službi za zdravstvenu ekologiju — kaže dr. Petar Korda, specijalist epidemiolog županijskog Zavoda.
Naime, na zahtjev Carinarnice Split, stručnjaci županijskog Zavoda jučer su obavili novo uzorkovanje zaplijenjenog šećera. Ing. Tomo Maleš uzeo je 15-ak uzoraka, koji će na Zavodu biti podvrgnuti mikrobiološkoj i kemijskoj analizi, te utvrđivanju zdravstvene ispravnosti. Prema riječima dr. Korde, koji je predvodio stručni tim Zavoda, analizom će se utvrditi sva svojstva šećera koji je pakiran u 50-kilogramskim papirnatim i jutenim vrećama.
Ravnatelj Zavoda dr. Mladen Smoljanović pritom je postavio pitanje zašto granični sanitarni inspektori u prethodnom navratu nisu naložili obavljanje i kemijske analize u Splitu, budući da u toj ustanovi djeluje laboratorij s odgovarajućom opremom.
Također, ostaje upitno zašto se do objavljivanja teksta u našem listu, kako neslužbeno doznajemo, čak i u Graničnoj sanitarnoj inspekciji izravno spominjala mogućnost uništavanja svih 50 tona šećera, koji je sasvim ispravan za prehrambenu uporabu.
AstroBoy September 10th, 2005, 10:40 AM It nearly sent Croatia's greatest tennis star broke, but anyway here are some pics of his office-residential-retail construction project that was recently completed in his home city of Split.
I had no idea how large and very sophisticated the complex is :eek: .....
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV5.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV2.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV8.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV3.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV10.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV11.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV1.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV4.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV13.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV12.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV9.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV7.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/IV6.jpg
OMG. :eek:
You can so no expense was wasted in the the design and quality of Ivanisevic's development. This is urbanism at its best.
long foot September 10th, 2005, 02:05 PM I agree, great building :okay: Pity Ivanišević is such a bad businessman :(
OettingerCroat September 11th, 2005, 07:55 AM Zagrebački arhitekti nove Rive stižu u Split
Arhitekti Studija 3LHD ovoga će se petka sastati s radnom grupom splitskih konzervatora, urbanista i arhitekata. Uređenje Rive, najavljuju u Poglavarstvu, počinje iduće godine.
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/20050910/images/SPLIT1A.jpg
Splitska Riva ipak će se urediti prema projektu zagrebačkog arhitektonskog studija 3LHD, prvonagrađenog na nedavnom javnom natječaju, a radovi će početi u jeseni 2006. godine — najavio je član splitskog Poglavarstva zadužen za urbanizam Branko Poljanić. Po njegovim riječima do tada će se razriješiti sve dileme oko nagrađenog projekta, pripremiti dokumentacija i izabrati izvođača, kako bi se odmah nakon svršetka iduće turističke sezone krenulo s fizičkim radovima "šminkanja" glavne splitske šetnice. Zagrebački arhitekti već će ovoga petka doći u Split i sastati se s radnom grupom sastavljenom od dva konzervatora (Joško Belamarić i Goran Nikšić ), tri urbanista (sam Poljanić, Robert Plejić i Duško Marasović ) te tri ugledna splitska arhitekta (Dinko Kovačić, Jerko Rošin i Damir Rako), s kojima će "sagledati sve segmente projekta" i "eventualno ga prilagoditi splitskim prilikama". Drugim riječima, prije svega će se još jednom razmisliti o uređenju skalinade prema moru na jednom dijelu Rive, i to nakon što je dio javnosti upozorio da ona ne bi bila u skladu sa splitskom tradicijom, niti bi podnijela jak utjecaj mora. Poljanić je kao glavni gradski urbanist od 3LHD-a zatražio da se barem netko iz njihova tima arhitekata na neko vrijeme preseli u Split i surađuje sa splitskim stručnjacima, na što su ovi pristali.
— Da, iduće godine krećemo s uređenjem Rive, i to oslanjajući se na prvonagrađeni projekt s nedavnog natječaja — potvrdio je i splitski gradonačelnik Zvonimir Puljić. Kako neslužbeno doznajemo, nova gradska vlast razmatrala je mogućnost da se barem dio šetnice uredi već do blagdana svetoga Dujma, u svibnju sljedeće godine, no procijenjeno je da ne bi bilo korisno krenuti u zahvat prije nego što se odredi njegov konačni izgled. Idućih mjeseci razmotrit će se i ideja gradnje podzemne garaže ispod Trga Franje Tuđmana i Prokurativa, kako bi se eventualno i taj dio posla obavio istodobno. Jedini segment Rive koji se vjerojatno neće uređivati u ovoj fazi jest dio od ulaza u Podrume do kule u Hrvojevoj, na kojemu se danas nalazi parkiralište, a koji bi na red trebao doći u sklopu uređenja prostora oko Lučke kapetanije i eventualnog podzemnog povezivanja istočne i zapadne obale Gradske luke.
Podsjetimo, projekt 3LHD-a - studija koji je za projekte u Hrvatskoj i svijetu pokupio priličan broj strukovnih nagrada - predviđa zanimljivo mozaično popločavanje šetnice s utisnutim raznim splitskim simbolima, ujednačavanje štekata, tendi i suncobrana i njihovo odmicanje od pročelja zgrada, novu rasvjetu i klupe, dok bi se na mjestu bivše Bajamontijeve fontane nalazila nova, kao "vodena, svjetlosna i zvučna senzacija".
SinCity September 16th, 2005, 05:37 AM GOSPODARSTVO Autocesta poskupila stanove i građevno zemljište
Split: Najviše poskupjele nekretnine uz gospodarske zone
Autor Slavica Vuković
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050915/dal-nekret-txt.jpg
SPLIT Cijene nekretnina i građevnog zemljišta u Splitu i okolici rastu iz godine u godinu, no taj se trend ubrzao otvaranjem autoceste Zagreb-Split. U agencijama za posredovanje pri prodaji nekretnina ističu kako je najjeftiniji stambeni četvorni metar u Splitu danas oko 1300 eura, dok se prošle godine moglo pronaći stanova i po 900 eura metar četvorni. Primjerice, stan na Plokitama od 60 kvadrata koji je lani kupljen za 65.000 eura sada košta 105.000.
Jedini splitski kvart u kojemu su cijene stanova pale jesu Bačvice. Elitna četvrt postala je manje atraktivna za stanovanje zbog problema s parkiranjem i buke. Naime, plaža i kompleks s brojnim ugostiteljskim i zabavnim sadržajima te glasnom glazbom danju privlače turiste i kupače, noću mlade željne zabave, a stanari tako ostaju bez mjesta za parkiranje, ali i tišine u svojim domovima. Cijena pojedinim stanovima pala je i 10.000 eura.
Najveći skok cijena zabilježen je za građevno zemljište u neposrednoj blizini gospodarskih zona. U industrijskoj zoni u Dicmu cijena zemljišta skočila je i do 300 posto, a cijene građevnog zemljišta u blizini gospodarske zone Dugopolje porasle su oko 200 posto. Metar četvorni zemljišta koštao je 10 eura, a sada je od 20 do 25 eura. Zahvaljujući industrijskim i gospodarskim zonama u splitskom zaleđu, prvi put se u naseljima Dalmatinske zagore traže stambeni prostori za iznajmljivanje. Radnici iznajmljuju kuće, a u agencijama napominju kako se cijena najma približila onoj koju plaćaju splitski podstanari. Unatoč skoku cijena, na tržištu nekretnina i dalje je više kupaca nego stanova za prodaju. Vlasnici agencija kažu kako im posao koče nepostojeći urbanistički planovi, kao i spora administracija. To je i razlog zašto mnogi stranci zainteresirani za kupnju od nje odustaju.
esseker September 16th, 2005, 08:51 PM Zagrebački arhitekti nove Rive stižu u Split
Arhitekti Studija 3LHD ovoga će se petka sastati s radnom grupom splitskih konzervatora, urbanista i arhitekata. Uređenje Rive, najavljuju u Poglavarstvu, počinje iduće godine.
Podsjetimo, projekt 3LHD-a - studija koji je za projekte u Hrvatskoj i svijetu pokupio priličan broj strukovnih nagrada - predviđa zanimljivo mozaično popločavanje šetnice s utisnutim raznim splitskim simbolima, ujednačavanje štekata, tendi i suncobrana i njihovo odmicanje od pročelja zgrada, novu rasvjetu i klupe, dok bi se na mjestu bivše Bajamontijeve fontane nalazila nova, kao "vodena, svjetlosna i zvučna senzacija".
Jedva čekam da vidim novu rivu. Ove godine sam čekajući vlak potrošio par sati u centru Splita što mi je bio 2 put u tome gradu. Moram priznati da mi je pomalo neobičan grad, valjda sam previše navikao na pitome vizure Panonije :)
bubach_hlubach September 16th, 2005, 10:39 PM ^ Nikaj cudnoga za nas kontinentalce :)
U meni osobno cak i Rijeka, koja btw vise "mirisi" na Zagreb, pobudjuje neobican osjecaj sredine i mentaliteta obalnog grada, a kamo li tek Split :)
:cheers:
Indexi September 16th, 2005, 11:17 PM What's the name of the biulding project across the old military hospital/hospital? It looks awesome but I forgot to take pictures of it..
OettingerCroat September 25th, 2005, 07:23 AM Amerikanci bi u Split uložili milijune dolara!
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/20050924/images/SPLIT1A.jpg
Američki investitori žele ulagati u Hrvatsku, oni su spremni, ali Hrvatska im mora za to što prije stvoriti uvjete, jer oni ne mogu beskonačno čekati. Prije dva mjeseca došao mi je jedan ozbiljni američki investitor, koji je izrazio spremnost da na ovom području investira 400 milijuna dolara!
Američki veleposlanik u Hrvatskoj Ralph Frank kazao je to tijekom jučerašnjeg primanja kod splitsko-dalmatinskog župana Ante Sanadera i njegovih suradnika, dožupana Anđelke Vuko i Luke Brčića, te člana Poglavarstva dr. Ante Nosića.
Župan Sanader informirao je veleposlanika Franka, na njegovo traženje, o projektima za razvoj gospodarstva i mogućnostima američkih ulaganja na području županije. Župan je naglasio kako je njegovoj ekipi gospodarstvo prioritet, te ukazao na značaj gradnje radnih zona uz autocestu i projekte za turistički razvoj, poput gradnje terena za golf, za što postoji interes američkih investitora. Županija nastavlja suradnju s USAID-om, agencijom američke vlade za investiranje i razvoj, s kojom priprema elaborat koji će dati konkretne odgovore kako privući strane investitore.
— Impresioniran sam vašim razvojnim planovima, a posebno suradnjom s Gradom Splitom kroz zajedničku Razvojnu agenciju. Ciljevi su dobri, imate visokokvalitetne ljude, atraktivne lokacije, ali svjesni ste da nemate infrastrukturu i dobro je što radite na tome da je izgradite — kazao je Frank. Američki veleposlanik je rekao kako je u Splitu prvi put bio prije 30 godina, te da je Split i danas zadržao značaj najvažnijeg grada na ovom području i danas ima velike potencijale.
Američkoga veleposlanika, u čijoj je pratnji bio viši savjetnik za lokalnu samoupravu Tom Rogers, u Banovini su primili predsjednik Gradskog vijeća Splita Željko Jerkov i zamjenik gradonačelnika Božidar Čapalija, koji su ga upoznali s gradskim razvojnim projektima. Dogradonačelnik Čapalija poručio je kako će Split nastojati intenzivirati kontakte s američkim gradom prijateljem Los Angelesom, pri čemu će se prioritet dati gospodarskoj suradnji. Ralph Frank upisao se na kraju posjeta u knjigu zaslužnih, otvorenu u povodu 1700. obljetnice grada Splita.
OettingerCroat September 25th, 2005, 07:25 AM Sedam milijuna lučkih kuna samo od putnika
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/20050924/images/SPLIT2A.jpg
Za svakog putnika na brodu u lokalnom prometu kompanije plaćaju Lučkoj upravi pristojbu od dvije kune, dok za privez i odvez trajekata poput "Bartola Kašića" koncesionar "Trajektna luka" naplaćuje 400 kuna, a 800 kuna za "Petra Hektorovića" ili "Splita Prvog"
Na kraju najaktivnijeg dijela vjerojatno najuspješnije prometne sezone u Gradskoj luci, postupno se zbrajaju prvi poslovni rezultati među brodarima i lučkim koncesionarima. Mnogi potvrđuju da je splitska luka svojevsrna "zlatka koka", s planiranim ovogodišnjim prometom od preko 3,5 milijuna putnika, ali tko zapravo ostvaruje najveću dobit?
Lučka uprava Split, kao krovna ustanova, prema riječima ravnatelja Branka Grgića, raspolaže godišnjim proračunom od 25 milijuna kuna, od čega se od tvrtki-koncesionara lučkih djelatnosti uprihodi 13 posto, odnosno oko tri milijuna kuna. Ostatak se ostvaruje transferom novca iz državnog proračuna, te prihodima od lučkih pristojbi koje plaćaju brodarske tvrtke.
Prema važećim tarifama, za svakog putnika na brodu u lokalnom prometu kompanije plaćaju pristojbu od dvije kune Lučkoj upravi, odnosno četiri kune za automobil, dok se iznosi na dužobalnim linijama penju do šest i 15 kuna. Trajekti u međunarodnom prometu plaćaju pristojbu od 1,5 euro po putniku, odnosno dva eura po automobilu. Kada je riječ o kruzerima, taksa za putnika u tranzitu iznosi 0,3 eura, a za ukrcanu/iskrcanu osobu 1,47 eura, pri čemu treba napomenuti da se svim inozemnim brodarima odobrava popust od pet do 30 posto, ovisno o broju godišnjih uplovljavanja.
Sasvim pristojan novac, pa stoga i proporcionalnu dobit, obrće i 60 lučkih koncesionara u Gradskoj i Sjevernoj luci, koji su natječajem dobili zeleno svjetlo Upravnog vijeća Lučke uprave za obavljanje jedne od 10 djelatnosti, i to sve do 2011. godine. Sve odabrane tvrtke plaćaju Lučkoj upravi godišnju koncesijsku naknadu koja uključuje stalni dio, u iznosu od 600 do 20.000 kuna, te promjenljivu vrijednost od jedan posto ostvarenog prihoda u lučkom području.
Najveći interes za koncesije vlada među pomorskim agentima (Jadroagent, SEM Marina, SNAV Hrvatska...), jer se na listi nalaze 22 tvrtke koje plaćaju godišnju naknadu od 500 američkih dolara u kunskoj protuvrijednosti i već spomenuti promjenjivi iznos. Otpremničku djelatnost obnaša 12 poduzeća (Trast, Jadranšped, Zagrebšped...), uz fiksnu naknadu od 500 dolara, dok se opskrbom brodova bavi devet tvrtki (Konzum, Split Ship Management...), i to za isti iznos. Dostavu goriva obavljaju Ina i Tanker Split, za što izdvajaju po 100 dolara i jedan posto godišnjeg prihoda ostvarenog na području koncesije. Prihvatom i otpremom krutog otpada bave se Čistoća i SEM Marina, a uklanjanje tekućeg otpada obavljaju tri tvrtke, među kojima je i Cian. Iznos od 500 dolara godišnje, Lučkoj upravi uplaćuje i tvrtka Galeb koja trenutačno ima ekskluzivno pravo na odvoz i pranje rublja s brodova.
Posljednjih dana često spominjana tvrtka "Trajektna luka" od 2004. godine ima prvenstvenu 12-godišnju koncesiju, za koju u 2005. godini plaća nešto manje od 116 tisuća kuna i 1,5 posto od ukupnoga godišnjeg prihoda na području koncesije. Za privez i odvez domaćih trajekata do 3500 tona, kao što su "Bartol Kašić" ili "Vanga", taj koncesionar naplaćuje 400 kuna, a dvostruki iznos primjenjuje se za veća plovila, poput "Petra Hektorovića" ili "Splita Prvog", što je na razini luka Dubrovnik i Zadar. Tarifa priveza i odveza brodova u međunarodnom prometu, po cjeniku koji je Lučka uprava propisala "Trajektnoj luci", kreće se od 14,72 do 451,16 eura ovisno o nosivosti broda, dok se kubični metar vode s lučke mreže naplaćuje 2,95 eura.
bambam October 7th, 2005, 01:15 AM KB SPLIT Danas se počinje rušiti stari paviljon bivšeg Zaraznog odjela
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/051006/dal_rod.jpg
SPLIT U sklopu priprema za gradnju nove klinike za ženske bolesti i porode u sklopu Kliničke bolnice Split, danas će se početi rušiti stari paviljon Zaraznog odjela na Firulama.
Paviljon će rušiti splitska tvrtka Cestar koja je na javnom natječaju među brojnim ponuđačima pobijedila jer je ponudila najmanju cijenu sve će obaviti za oko pola milijuna kuna.
Star i iznimno uništen objekt bivšeg Zaraznog odjela, u kojem su se posljednjih godina skupljali narkomani, mora biti uklonjen do 10. studenoga.
Do početka 2007.
Dobili smo građevnu dozvolu za rušenje tog objekta, sve potrebne suglasnosti i papire i ovaj čin rušenja je početak skore gradnje novog splitskog rodilišta ističe dr. Dujomir Marasović, ravnatelj Kliničke bolnice.
Prema sadašnjim planovima, koji prema njegovim riječima nikako ne bi smjeli doći u pitanje, Split bi do početka 2007. trebao dobiti novo rodilište.
Gradit će se prema idejnom projektu arhitektonske radionice Centar i arhitekta Vjekoslava Ivaniševića. Taj Ivaniševićev projekt zadovoljio je sve uvjete ponovljenog natječaja za rodilište.
Šest etaža
Nova zgrada Klinike za ženske bolesti i porode imat će dvije podzemne i četiri nadzemne etaže ukupne površine oko 10 tisuća četvornih metara.
Prema idejnom projektu, raspolagat će sa 76 soba 16 trokrevetnih, 42 dvokrevetne i 18 jednokrevetnih.
U prizemlju bi trebali biti brojni popratni sadržaji, banka, cvjećarnica, pošta, dućani...
Funkcionalno zdanje
Novo rodilište, kojem će gravitirati i stanovništvo Splitsko-dalmatinske županije kao i susjedne Bosne i Hercegovine, zajedno s opremom stajat će više od 100 milijuna kuna. Iznimno je važno što je struka, liječnici i medicinsko osoblje u Kliničkoj bolnici, ocijenilo kako će novo zdanje biti ne samo lijepo nego i funkcionalno.
To je liječnicima, sestrama i pacijentima ipak najvažnije.
OettingerCroat October 7th, 2005, 05:21 AM koji je to sad novi izraz... rodiliste..... what happened to fertility center or something...
SinCity October 7th, 2005, 05:37 AM ^^ They need it because Split like a bunch of other Croatian cities is going thru a baby boom. Split especially .... ;)
OettingerCroat October 7th, 2005, 06:47 AM i hope it lasts.... we need to get our population up.
SinCity October 7th, 2005, 06:52 AM i hope it lasts.... we need to get our population up.
Yep. I agree 1000% :yes:
I want us to follow Ireland which has gone from rags to riches in such a short time.
It wasn't that long ago that Irish youth migrated abroad in search of a better life ..... and now ....... half of Irelands population in under 25 years of age! :eek:
What a significant turn around which I hope Croatia will follow.
Anyway, I've been reading for months now how the birthrate has jumped dramatically in most cities from last year. So far, so good ...... :yes:
OettingerCroat October 7th, 2005, 07:22 AM ireland is now easily the richest country (of any sort of reasonable size) in the EU and 4th in the continent after only Luxembourg, Norway, and Switzerland. and it was REAL bad 10-15 years ago. as in, like the country only had sheep and dirt.
one of the main reasons for irelands success if that intel opened a huge factory, in cork i believe. it went unbelievably well. cheap-as-hell labor, top-quality worksmanship, and a legitimate "made in EU" stamp could be placed on the back, which looks better than "made in China."
intel then opened 4 more factories in ireland, each larger than the last. And with the insane success intel has been having, that can easily explain Ireland's ridiculous pushing-$40,000-per-capita gdp.
with their immense newfound welth, the irish have seriously been flocking to croatia in recent years. and thats good. down in dubrovnik/konavle, where my mom's got a house, 2 irish guys built two, 4-story apartment buildings (gosh, nearly stambenjaci) perched on a hill right behind my house. All of the apartments have stunning views of dubrovnik and the islands (lol so does my house).
problem is, there are like 20 total apartments in these two buildings... but there are only 2 parkings spaces, FOR BOTH TOWERS! lol, now nobody's wanting to lease the apartments, lol, luck of the irish workin in the opposite way now eh?
bambam October 7th, 2005, 08:31 AM koji je to sad novi izraz... rodiliste..... what happened to fertility center or something...
rodiliste je stari izraz koji je se vec koristio i za vrijeme bivsje jugoslavije... postojalo je vise nianci te rijeci kao porodiliste u Bosni i rodiliste u Hrvatskoj itd...
OettingerCroat October 7th, 2005, 05:04 PM ma to ti je ista stvar kao bolnica, smeta mi, no u hrvatskoj, nego kako svijet izmislja nove rijeci za practicki ISTE stvari. di ima lijeka, postelja, i medcinskih sestara, TO JE BOLNICA.
bubach_hlubach October 7th, 2005, 08:52 PM ma to ti je ista stvar kao bolnica, smeta mi, no u hrvatskoj, nego kako svijet izmislja nove rijeci za practicki ISTE stvari. di ima lijeka, postelja, i medcinskih sestara, TO JE BOLNICA.
A ti stvarno znas od buhe napraviti slona.
Bolnica je opci naziv za zdravstvenu ustanovu koja se djeli na nekoliko odjela, a jedan od tih odjela koji sluzi za porodjaj se zove nikako drugacije, vec rodiliste. Tako se oduvijek zvalo, bez pretjerane mudrosti.
:cheers:
OettingerCroat October 8th, 2005, 12:37 AM Ma ne pokusavam se svadjati, lol, jednostavno, ja sam vokalan tip, lol, i jos uz to, pokusavao sam napraviti salu....
ma vi svi nemate smisao za salu. popizdite kada se neozbiljno salim.
long foot October 8th, 2005, 02:49 PM New business building in Split, by Dalkoning to be completed in december 2006 :)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5952/picture0108eo.jpg
More info:www.dalkoning.hr
long foot October 8th, 2005, 02:55 PM Žnjanski blizanci, update, september 2005:
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905jv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905mv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905bv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905gv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905hv.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905ev.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/zblizanci/0905cv.jpg
www.dalkoning.hr
long foot October 8th, 2005, 03:07 PM BRODARICA - prijedlozi idejnog arhitektonsko-urbanističkog koncepta (nije mi jasno je li ova gore zgrada čiju sam sliku postao dio ove veće urbanističke cjeline ili je nešto drugo)
dipl. ing. arh. Jerko Rošin
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/rosin1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/rosin3v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/rosin2v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/rosin4v.jpg
dipl. ing. arh. Ante Kuzmanić
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/kuzmanic1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/kuzmanic6v.jpg
dipl. ing. arh. Ante Milas
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/milas1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/milas2v.jpg
dipl. ing. arh.) Emil Šverko i (dipl. ing. arh.) Neno Kezić
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/kezic1v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/kezic2v.jpg
http://www.dalkoning.hr/images/brodarica/kezic3v.jpg
SinCity October 10th, 2005, 01:15 AM Excellent updates Long Foot. :)
bambam October 20th, 2005, 01:15 AM Projektom poznatog talijanskog arhitekta Rocca Antonuccija predviđa se izgradnja hotela s pet zvjezdica s apartmanima
Posljednjih godina, Split je postao jedna od najatraktivnijih mediteranskih lokacija za izgradnju luksuznih hotela. Izgradnjom autoceste, Grad je izašao iz dugogodišnje prometne izolacije, Gradska luka je po broju putnika među vodećima na Sredozemlju, a zavidne rezultate bilježi i Zračna luka u Kaštelima.
O uvjetima i mogućnostima gradnje novih hotela, u gradskoj upravi do sada su se informirali mnogi strani investitori. No, posebnu medijsku pozornost izazvalo je zanimanje Toyotina vozača Formule 1 Jarna Trullija.
Posredstvom hrvatskog poduzetnika Jakše Mrčele, vlasnika tvrtke za gradnju i prodaju nekretnina »Dal Casa«, otac poznatog vozača, Enzo Trulli, sastao se ovih dana s prvim ljudima splitskoga Gradskog poglavarstva. Trulli je dogradonačelniku Ivanu Kuretu i članu Poglavarstva zaduženom za urbanizam Branku Poljaniću, doznaje Vjesnik, predstavio projekt poznatog talijanskog arhitekta Rocca Antonuccija, kojim se predviđa izgradnja hotela s pet zvjezdica s apartmanima.
Ipak, gdje će se hotel graditi, još se sa sigurnošću ne može reći budući da najvažniji gradski prostorno-planski dokument, generalni urbanistički plan, još nije donesen. Prema najavama splitskoga gradonačelnika Zvonimira Puljića, GUP bi trebao biti prihvaćen do kraja ove godine.
Dobro upućeni, pak, tvrde, da je Trulliju najzanimljivija lokacija uz Gradsku luku, koja je novim GUP-om i predviđena za turističku izgradnju nakon premještanja Željezničkog kolodvora u prigradsku Kopilicu. To je trenutačno, bez pretjerivanja, najvrednije zemljište u Hrvatskoj.
»Dok GUP ne bude gotov, investitorima ne možemo jamčiti osnovno - brzo pribavljanje građevinske dozvole i nismo uopće ozbiljan partner. Tek kada donesemo GUP, moći ću na karti uprijeti prstom na mjesto na kojem se ti objekti mogu graditi. Donošenjem GUP-a i Prostornog plana, otvaramo mogućnost investiranja i, uopće, legalne izgradnje kako za Split kao investitora tako i za druge ulagače«, kaže gradonačelnik, ističući da Split u skoroj budućnosti 30 posto prihoda iz gospodarstva namjerava ostvariti upravo u turizmu.
Nije tajna da je splitskim ambicijama najveća zapreka nedostatak hotelskih kreveta. Splitu ovog trenutka nedostaje najmanje 4000 kreveta. Poglavarstvo je nedavno donijelo i paket stimulativnih mjera za izgradnju hotela po kojima se plaćanje komunalnog doprinosa investitorima odgađa na četiri godine, odnosno omogućava im se da ga plate kad hotel počne zarađivati.
SinCity October 20th, 2005, 04:33 AM ^^ Good news. Split can easily do with more hotels although I dont like the idea of them shifting the main train/bus station more into the suburbs. I like Split's rail station where it is. Its heaps practical.
BTW - has anyone caught the train into Split. I hear that the trains pass a good distance underground beneath the suburbs before they arrive at Glavni Kolodvor.
esseker October 20th, 2005, 10:36 PM yes the railroad goes under the city for at least 10 minutes before entering the main train station.
it is surprising that they want to move the main station to the suburbs when it is very practical as it is today when you can move from the train into the boat or bus in a few minutes. if I had to get off the train in the suburbs I'd have to take a bus to the port and lose my very valuable time :)
I'm also curious why Split doesn't have some kind of town railway. Osijek has (atleast) 6 stations that serve as a part of the west to east local and town railway.
thanks to the high gas prices and more expensive bus tickets, Osijek's local north to south trains are more crowded than ever!
SinCity October 21st, 2005, 01:57 AM ^^ Exactly to the point at which I was getting at :yes: ......
Split basically has a metro line but no suburban stations. If you travel at least 10 minutes underground beneath the suburbs before you arrive at the Glavni Kolodvor then thats quite a considerable distance. It would at least be several kilometres long. If only they built suburban stations there then how easy is it to have a metro?
I heard a rumor on the Croatian railways forum that the reason the intercity station is to be moved in Split is to create a metro line in the tunnels. It would make sense considering Split is a growing city with plenty of traffic issues on the surface. However thats just a projection for the future. Anyway the tunnels are there but not the stations ....... Hmmm
long foot October 21st, 2005, 03:30 PM previše su nesposobni i glupi da bi sagradili dvije-tri (podzemne) stanice! taj tunel je izgrađen još za mediteranske igre 1979 (ako se ne varam) i praktički služi samo za međugradske vlakove. mislim da tunel nije dug "10 minuta", ali jest poprilično, a pruga je idealno postavljena: vodi iz luke, ispod centra grada i prolazi kraj Kaštela, što znači da bi, u slučaju da vlak vozi svakih 20 minuta, imali gomilu putnika. Ali objasni ti to idiotima u HŽ-u! U Zagrebu HŽ nije učinio praktički ništa na uvođenju prigradskih vlakova dok se grad ZAgreb nije angažirao. zadnje stajalište koje je sagrađeno (rekonstruirano) platio je 70 posto grad zagreb, a samo 30 posto HŽ. Jasno je o čemu je riječ. Ovi idioti u HŽ-u samo čekaju donacije od države koja ih uzdržava, a nemaju nikakav ozbiljan plan. s druge strane, HŽ ima milijarde eura vrijednu mrtvu imovinu stacioniranu pored pruga koja ničemu ne služi. kad bi to prodali, mogli bi od zarade financirati velike investicije.
long foot October 21st, 2005, 06:25 PM Ali evo i jedna dobra vijest iz Splita: danas je konačno počela gradnja nove sveučilišne knjižnice :) Slike ste već imali prilike vidjeti, ali evo još jednom:
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/2530/vani31cn.jpg
Čini se da je danas dan knjižnica :D
long foot October 21st, 2005, 06:47 PM Ovo je prijedlog prometne mreže splitskog GUP-a. Ova ljubičasta linija je željeznička pruga koja već postoji - pazite, fotka ima 5 mb ;)
http://www.split.hr/dokumenti/03a%20promet.jpg
OettingerCroat October 22nd, 2005, 12:57 AM ^^^^that is seriously an architecturaly spectacular building... the library... wow.
bambam October 22nd, 2005, 02:15 AM Ali evo i jedna dobra vijest iz Splita: danas je konačno počela gradnja nove sveučilišne knjižnice :) Slike ste već imali prilike vidjeti, ali evo još jednom:
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/2530/vani31cn.jpg
Čini se da je danas dan knjižnica :D
... mislio sam vec se to nikad nece graditi..
long foot October 22nd, 2005, 03:41 PM ne budi defetist, vidio sam na TV-u kako ministar Primorac zabija prvu lopatu u zemlju ;)
bambam October 22nd, 2005, 06:13 PM ne budi defetist, vidio sam na TV-u kako ministar Primorac zabija prvu lopatu u zemlju ;)
hehe.. onda da nazdravimo.. zivjeli svi :cheers:
long foot October 26th, 2005, 11:46 AM Mate Balota, znaš li možda je li počela gradnja nove poslovne zgrade HVB Splitske banke na trgu Hrvatske bratske zajednice u Splitu? Trebala je koštati oko 190.000.000 kuna.
Ballota October 26th, 2005, 09:19 PM Prije par dana sam bio tamo,ali ništa se još ne gradi.
Kad počne poslat ću vam slike. Tamo sam svakih tjedan dana.
A na kojem je to točno djelu "trga"?
"Trg" he,he. Joj! Trg posut šljunkom i sa oko 500 auta parkiranih. JOOOOJ!!!
Btw ispod ide pruga i u tom području postoji jedna podzemna stanica! Nije dovršena (samo je napravljeno proširenje i ulaz) i blokirana je teškim komadima betona! Nju nebi trebalo bit problem uredit u budućnosti.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:8q60Dax5wxYJ:www.slobodnadalmacija.com/20041030/sdmagazin01.asp+split+metro+slobodna&hl=hr&lr=lang_hr
Ballota October 26th, 2005, 09:29 PM Ići ću vidit gradilište sveučilišne,pa ću vam slikat gradilište. Btw. Ekonomski fakultet se širi na istok. Stvarno će bit ogroman!
U međuvremenu evo malo slika za razbibrigu:
Trogirska kula
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6899/slika245ph.jpg
Lunić kraj stadiona
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7450/rollercoaster55km.jpg
Palme
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3793/riva63wl.jpg
Božić
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4024/palma11zo.jpg
Moj prijatelj na vrhu svijeta :)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4725/nakrovusvijeta13wf.jpg
Jel iko bija na ovoj mrcini? :runaway:
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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6493/luni129je.jpg
Kako vam se sviđa Đardin?
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Klasika :)
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To be continued...
long foot October 26th, 2005, 10:10 PM Prije par dana sam bio tamo,ali ništa se još ne gradi.
Kad počne poslat ću vam slike. Tamo sam svakih tjedan dana.
A na kojem je to točno djelu "trga"?
davno je to bilo kad sam živio u Splitu, pa nemam pojma više ni di je taj trg :D
Btw ispod ide pruga i u tom području postoji jedna podzemna stanica! Nije dovršena (samo je napravljeno proširenje i ulaz) i blokirana je teškim komadima betona! Nju nebi trbalo bit problem uredit u budućnosti.
Čuo sam za tu stanicu! Ne mogu vjerovat da još nije u funkciji! Zar je tako teško uredit jedan peron i spustit dva lifta do njega? :sleepy:
Ajd ako ćeš bit blizu slikaj ulaz u stanicu i ako je moguće unutrašnjost i pošalji fotke.
SinCity October 27th, 2005, 01:05 AM ^^ Thanks Mate for the pics and the info on the Split subway. :)
So effectively we can conclude that Split has Croatia's first subway station but its closed off because it was never fitted out. WoW :eek:
I agree with LF, it wouldnt take much to complete it. :yes:
From Slobodna Dalmacija newspaper last year. Thanks Mate for the link! :)
PODZEMNA ŽELJEZNICA U SPLITU?
Prva postaja već je izgrađena!
Kolikogod to nevjerojatno zvučalo, Split jedini u Hrvatskoj ima svoju stanicu podzemne željeznice. Izgrađena je prije 25 godina, a proteže se od Palače pravde do Školske poliklinike. Napravljeni su ulazi sa sve četiri strane tog stajališta. Pripravljeni su za sve servise i stepenice, a stanica je zatvorena montažnim zidovima
Piše Ljubica VUKO
Snimio Mario TODORIĆ
Metro u Splitu!? To je samo naizgled znanstvena fantastika jer kolikogod to nevjerojatno zvučalo Split, jedini u Hrvatskoj, ima svoju stanicu podzemne željeznice. Izgrađena je prije 25 godina uoči Mediteranskih igara u Splitu. Proteže se od Palače pravde do Školske poliklinike, a svi oni koji danas iznad nje parkiraju svoje automobile sigurno i ne slute kakav su projekt pokrenuli nekadašnji splitski vizionari.
No, jedini put koji vodi do stanice je tunelom koji prolazi željeznička pruga. Pješice smo ga prošli razbijajući svjetiljkama tunelski mrak u pratnji Mirka Vukorepe, šefa željezničkog kolodvora u Splitu i dipl. ing. građevinarstva Igora Krstulovića, projektanta tog željezničkog tunela dugog 1852 metra. S praga na prag došli smo do proširenja tunela i mjesta gdje je Pomgrad izgradio stanicu željeznice koja bi trebala služiti gradskom i prigradskom putničkom prometu.
- U sklopu ukopa pruge na potezu od Gradske luke do Kopilice - prisjeća se dipl. ing. Krstulović - izgrađena je stanica za brzu gradsku željeznicu širine 20 metara i dužine 100 metara. Napravljeni su ulazi sa sve četiri strane tog stajališta, jedan je do zgrade Suda, drugi na samom rubu parkinga blizu slastičarne “Svaguša”, treći i četvrti pored Školske poliklinike. Pripravljeni su za sve servise i stepenice, a stanica je zatvorena montažnim zidovima čekajući vrijeme kad će je netko staviti u funkciju.
Rješenje za zagušenje
Je li to vrijeme stiglo prvih godina 21. stoljeća? Studije pokazuju da Splitu danas nedostaje 5000 parkirališnih mjesta, a prometni stručnjaci procjenjivali su još prije desetak godina da će 2005. godine doći do zagušenja kapaciteta na glavnim gradskim prometnicama. Ako ne za metro koji ima svoje zakonitosti (npr. svaka linija zasebno), Split je zreo za brzu gradsku i prigradsku željeznicu. Stara ideja mogla bi konačno zaživjeti jer podrške joj ne manjka. Štoviše, uvrštena je i u prostorne planove Grada Splita i razvojne planove Hrvatskih željeznica.
Jedan od zagovornika te ideje je i prof.dr. Jakša Miličić, koji je od 1967. do 1974. godine bio predsjednik Skupštine općine Split. Ukop željezničke pruge bio je jedan od dva najvažnija razloga zašto se prihvatio dužnosti splitskog gradonačelnika. Drugi je poticanje zamaha građevinarstva i proizvodnje posebnih materijala koje su građevinari trebali.
- Split je bio presječen - kazuje prof. Miličić - na dva dijela. Bilo je 36 pari putničkih vlakova dnevno što znači da se rampa kraj zgrade Elektrodalmacije spuštala 72 puta, a uz to bilo je puno teretnih vlakova jer je gradska luka ranije služila i teretnom prometu. U budžetu Grada nije bilo novca za usjek pruge, ali smo financijsku okosnicu za taj zahvat dobili akcijom “pasivna kamata”. Država je u to vrijeme donijela odluku da se svim poduzećima koja imaju na računima a vista novac plaća pasivna kamata. Predložio sam svim pravnim subjektima da taj novac pasivne kamate prenesu na posebni račun za ukop željezničke pruge. Svi su prihvatili. Bio je to divan primjer suradnje građana.
Prof. Miličić kazuje kako je ondašnji ŽTP, prednik Hrvatskih željeznica (HŽ) prihvatio takvu inicijativu, te inzistirao da pruga od Gradske luke do Predgrađa Kopilica bude dvokolosiječna kako bi se jednom u budućnosti stvorili uvjeti za brzu gradsku željeznicu.
Od Trogira do Omiša
Razmišljalo se onda i sada da brza gradska i prigradska željeznica povezuje Split sa Trogirom i Omišom. Igor Krstulović zalagao se i aktiviranje trase popularne sinjske rere kako bi Sinj približila Splitu a ljude uz prugu zadržala u rodnim mjestima. Još 1968. godine i prof. Miličić i njegovi suradnici naručili su od Građevinskog fakulteta u Zagrebu studiju brze gradske željeznice koja bi povezivala Split, Solin, Kaštela, Trogir i Omiš. S obzirom na ondašnje prometne uvjete, pokazalo se da ona nije neposredno zanimljiva.
Ali, kako promet u Splitu biva sve gušći, i neki novi dužnosnici razmatrali su ideju brze gradske željeznice. Za potrebe GUP-a Grada Splita splitski Građevinski fakultet izradio je 2002. elaborat u kojem je istražio prometno-tehničke i prostorne mogućnosti uvođenja gradske željeznice na području Splita.
Koncept uvođenja GŽ-a temelji se na korištenju izgrađenih, a zasad neiskorištenih kapaciteta željeznice u najužem gradskom području, kazuje nam prof. dr. Duško Marušić sa splitskog Građevinsko-arhitektonskog fakulteta, jedini profesor koji u Hrvatskoj predaje na temu željeznica na građevinskim fakultetima u Splitu i Zagrebu.
Prof. Marušić ističe kako je ukop željezničke pruge bio najveći građevinski poduhvat u prometnom sustavu Splita, te dodaje kako bi se u drugoj etapi izgradnjom novog dijela pruge od Glavnog kolodvora u Splitu preko Stobreča (TTTS) do Solina ostvario prsten koji bi efikasno povezao šire gradsko područje sa centrom. Splitu su potrebni alternativni prijevozni sustavi, a budući da se koridor glavne gradske prometnice smjera Solin-Gradska luka podudara s postojećim željezničkim pravcem, logičan je zaključak da bi se željeznički sustav mogao uspješno uključiti u sustav javnog prijevoza.
Svi gravitiraju pruzi
Valja imati na umu, kako pokazuje i jedna studija HŽ-a, da u zoni željezničke pruge dugoj 18 kilometara između Splita i Kaštel Staroga danas živi oko 35 posto stanovnika Splita kojih je blizu 200.000. Od oko 30.000 žitelja Solina željezničkoj pruzi gravitira njih 40 posto, a u Kaštelima polovica od 40.000 stanovnika. U toj zoni u Splitu nalazi se i blizu 50 posto krupnih poslovnih sadržaja, u Solinu više od 70 posto, u Kaštelima oko 40 posto. U Splitu se u zoni željezničke pruge nalazi oko 75 posto svih srednjoškolskih i visokoškolskih ustanova, više od 80 posto ukupnog sportskog i rekreacijskog potencijala, te približno 60 posto ostalih javnih sadržaja.
Doduše pokušaj uvođenja prigradske željeznice početkom 1993. godine na relaciji od Splita do Kaštel Staroga neslavno je završio u jesen 1994. Ali, bilo je to ratno vrijeme. Ni lokalna uprava i samouprava nije podmirivala obveze kako je dogovorila sa HŽ-om, a i lokomotive su bile neprikladne kao da sa šleperom idete na posao. Nije bio usklađen ni tarifni sustav kao što je u Zagrebu tako da u javnom prijevozu karta za autobus vrijedi i za vlak i obrnuto.
Drugačiju prometnu sliku predviđa i konačni prijedlog novog prostornog plana uređenja Splita. U Gradskoj luci ostaju putnički terminali, ali Glavni željeznički i autobusni kolodvori sele se u Kopilicu.
Samo 17 minuta do centra- Gradska željeznica - kazuje prof. Marušić - povezala bi sve putničke terminale na vanjskom koridoru grada s Gradskom lukom. Vrijeme putovanja od najudaljenije postaje do Centra grada trajalo bi najviše 17 minuta uz učestalost vozila gradske željeznice od 6 do 10 minuta, te 16 stajališta svaki duljine oko 120 metara. U jednom vlaku može biti 760 putnika. Dobro je što se gradska željeznica može uvoditi etapno, a za početak treba izgraditi stajališta i nabaviti odgovarajuće kompozicije za prijevoz putnika u gradovima, dakle lagane vlakove koji imaju velika ubrzanja.
Moramo osjećati budućnost, ističe prof. Marušić kazujući nam da je na svim svjetskim kongresima u raspravama o javnom gradskom prijevozu zaključak da ako već nemamo koridore onda ih moramo osigurati u budućnosti da mogu koristiti električnu energiju kao pogonsku. Nafta je sve skuplja, ima je sve manje. Željeznički sustavi, a to su i tramvaji i brza gradska željeznica mogu koristiti električnu energiju. Nisu čak na prvom mjestu ni ekološki razlozi, kao što su do jučer bili, premda su i oni itekako važni veli prof. Marušić, uvjeren da će upravo prometnice biti sljedeći ekološki projekt u gradu. Dodajmo da je splitski željeznički tunel pripremljen i za elektrifikaciju pruge.
Dipl. ing. prometa Slavko Šerić, direktor Regionalnog ureda HŽ-a u Splitu kazuje kako je HŽ oformio tim za uvođenje gradske i prigradske željeznice u Splitu, Rijeci i Osijeku, a vodi ga dr. Ivan Švaljek. U Splitu su prometni stručnjaci izvršili reviziju dokumentacije, obišli trasu, vidjeli gdje trebaju biti stajališta. Planirana je i izgradnja drugog kolosijeka na postojećoj željezničkoj pruzi od Kopilice prema Kaštelima, a kako ističe prof. Marušić prostor za njega je rezerviran i već izgrađen most na Jadru. Prema Šerićevu mišljenju željeznica u Splitu može uzeti 30 posto putnika, a iako su u HŽ-u smanjene investicije za pametne projekte može se naći novca. Ako ništa drugo, može se pripremiti dokumentacija za vrijeme kad će biti novaca.
Kao i svi naši sugovornici, tako i Miroslav Buličić, splitski gradonačelnik apsolutno podržava ideju brze gradske željeznice. Ona bi znatno pridonijela prijevozu građana i turista, kaže Buličić koji inače ne očekuje znatniji željeznički promet u budućnosti, a mišljenja je i da javni promet u Splitu dobro funkcionira i da još uvijek nije problem doći do parkinga, samo treba platiti parkirna mjesta. “Kad HŽ krene u realizaciju, mi smo spremni. Kamo sreće da je doživim, a ne da je realiziram”, veli splitski gradonačelnik.
Realizacija ovih zamisli donijela bi i drugačije vrednovanje gradske luke i dragocjenog prostora Glavnog željezničkog kolodvora koji danas zjapi uglavnom prazan. No to je tema za drugu priču.
long foot October 27th, 2005, 08:36 PM So, Split alredy had suburban rail with one underground station, but idiots in city council didnt want to take responsibility for financing and the whole project failed :no: :mad2:
Mate, ako ikako može, nabavi mi slike te stanice, bilo izvana ili iznutra, ako ti se da pješačit kroz tunel s kolodvora :D
Stefan1 October 27th, 2005, 11:34 PM Zna li neko kada ce biti uspostavljen avio-saboracaj izmedju Splita i Beograda.Ja sam nesto nacuo 2006,bas me zivo zanima,posto letos sam isao u Split na more iz BG-a putovao sam autobusom celu noc,i put je bio veoma naporan.
Inace iz Beograda svakog dana ide 2-3 autobusa za Split i isto toliko iz Splita u BG,tako da ja mislim da bi uvodjenje avio linije bilo rentabilno(pa makar saobracali ATR72 ili slicni mali avioni).
Zna li neko odgovor?
OettingerCroat October 28th, 2005, 01:40 AM Lunić kraj stadiona
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7450/rollercoaster55km.jpg
its a roller coaster!!!! :runaway:
bubach_hlubach October 28th, 2005, 05:47 AM Alo Mate Balota, sta ima u Splitu i kakva je shema doli? :D
Ajde ako se sitis napravi nan par snimaka Lazarice, mislin ostataka iste ;) :D
:cheers:
long foot October 28th, 2005, 09:10 AM Zna li neko kada ce biti uspostavljen avio-saboracaj izmedju Splita i Beograda.Ja sam nesto nacuo 2006,bas me zivo zanima,posto letos sam isao u Split na more iz BG-a putovao sam autobusom celu noc,i put je bio veoma naporan.
Inace iz Beograda svakog dana ide 2-3 autobusa za Split i isto toliko iz Splita u BG,tako da ja mislim da bi uvodjenje avio linije bilo rentabilno(pa makar saobracali ATR72 ili slicni mali avioni).
Zna li neko odgovor?
Stvarno nemam pojma. Nisam siguran da postoji i linija Zagreb-Beograd koja bi bila još rentabilnija.
Ballota October 28th, 2005, 05:46 PM its a roller coaster!!!! :runaway:
No,it`s a fullsize mockup! :jk: :jk: :jk:
As for these metro stations,first I have to find them! I never saw them. They must be pretty well blended into the soroundings. If I find them,I`ll post some pics!
Lazarica looks terrible! Top two floors wore cut of,but only on the east side! I don t see any more demolition teams. Is seems that this is the way they are ganna let it be. When I get a chance I`ll post pics.
But now something totaly diferent:
My crazy cousin in the marine museum :) :nuts: :righton: :nuts: :)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4293/top20jw.jpg
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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1025/tirpedo16iz.jpg
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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1272/olupina69sy.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9433/mainka21bx.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4334/mainka10ws.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/163/flak58qv.jpg
He is allways a great fun! :)
SinCity October 30th, 2005, 11:02 PM :D Mate, that cousin of yours looks like a comedian. Cool pics. :)
Ballota October 31st, 2005, 03:26 AM Oh,belive me HE IS!!! :cool: :colgate: :cool:
Here are some more pics:
Church at Pujanke
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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9005/crkva67up.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3971/crkva78gs.jpg
Commie block (Pujanke) in which I live (6th floor). The building is pretty confortable,and thare i apsolutely no noise from the traffic! Every morning I wake up I hear birds singing :) . It s realy a great neighbourhood! :nocrook:
http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/3793/pogled120ib3qz.jpg
Belveder office/residential building
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7545/staklenjaa81eo.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2623/staklenjaa98uh.jpg
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That s it for now.
:runaway:
OettingerCroat October 31st, 2005, 03:41 AM mate balota, i want you to go to Sukoisanska 26 in Split. that is a commieblock. across the fast road from that other football field. not hajduk. anyways, take some pictures of it from the SOUTH side. as in, if you are walking towards it FROM the riva. this commieblock is where my grandparents live, 5th floor!
:colgate: :lol:
id appreciate it a LOT A LOT A LOT mate!
OettingerCroat October 31st, 2005, 03:42 AM hey can someone tell me how to actually take a picture using google maps/google earth?
SinCity October 31st, 2005, 03:49 AM ^^ Someone did it the other day in the Zagreb thread, but I'm not sure who it was ....
OettingerCroat October 31st, 2005, 03:54 AM T'was LF.
Ballota October 31st, 2005, 04:12 AM hey can someone tell me how to actually take a picture using google maps/google earth?
I did it too! I just used print screen.
mate balota, i want you to go to Sukoisanska 26 in Split. that is a commieblock. across the fast road from that other football field. not hajduk. anyways, take some pictures of it from the SOUTH side. as in, if you are walking towards it FROM the riva. this commieblock is where my grandparents live, 5th floor!
Wait for a few days. When I pass by I ll take some pics.
OettingerCroat October 31st, 2005, 04:39 AM thx a lot mate!!!!! lots of my memories are in the commieblock!!! ;) :colgate:
MIMICA October 31st, 2005, 04:59 AM ahhh, the commieblock. :D
i come into your threads expecting to see construction projects, and i find you all changing colors of existing buildings. you damn croatians! ;) :jk:
Ballota October 31st, 2005, 12:43 PM Allways craving for a change,ha,ha!
:nocrook:
long foot November 2nd, 2005, 07:05 PM Evo malo fotki s gradilišta nove Sveučilišne knjižnice:
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa1.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa2.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa3.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa4.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa5.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa6.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa7.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa8.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa9.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/rupa10.jpg
nakon dovršenja izgledat će ovako:
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani1.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani2.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani3.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani4.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani5.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani6.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani7.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani8.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani9.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/vani10.jpg
interijer:
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/novau1.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/novau2.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/novau3.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/novau4.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/novau5.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n1.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n2.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n4.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n5.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n6.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n7.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n8.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n9.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n10.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n11.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n12.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n13.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n14.jpg
http://www.svkst.hr/nova/n15.jpg
long foot November 2nd, 2005, 07:19 PM Inače, gradnja knjižnice košta 118 milijuna kuna, i dio je veće investicije izgradnje splitskog sveučilišnog kampusa vrijednog 340 milijuna kuna ;)
http://www.online.hr/_clanak.asp?id=274363
Ballota November 2nd, 2005, 10:12 PM Eto mene!
Dakle,da počnemo! :)
Isprike OettingerCroatu radi slika starog stana! Ja budala slika Sukoišansku 28 umisto 26! I to nakon 20min traženja! Dođe mi da se bacin u okno lifta! :bash: Slikat ću ti to za kojih tjedan dana kad opet buden prolazija. Inaće,evo šta san slika:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9167/slika427ot.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3749/slika458al.jpg
Evo ti satelitska snimka,pa mi ti označi kuću da opet ne tražin po ure!
Ucrtane su Sukoišanska i commieblock koji san ja slika.
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1815/fgchfgj4ao.jpg
Mate Balota, znaš li možda je li počela gradnja nove poslovne zgrade HVB Splitske banke na trgu Hrvatske bratske zajednice u Splitu? Trebala je koštati oko 190.000.000 kuna.
Kao što vidiš nije. (obratite pozornost na zgradu u daljini čiji vrh liči na kontrolni toranj na aerodromu-ima ulogu u nekim sljedećim slikama)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4016/slika367tw.jpg
Tražija san one podzemne stanice ali nema ih NIGDJE!!! Poludija san! Odlično su ih sakrili! :bash: Očito su SKROZ zacementirane! Pisalo je da je jedna kod suda,jedna preko puta njega kraj Svaguše i dvije kod dječje poliklinike. Evo par slika ,pa sami tražite. Možda neko ubere neki detalj. :eek2:
Palača pravde
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3397/slika496vu.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6866/slika484vn.jpg
Svaguša
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3504/slika513mi.jpg
"Kontrolni toranj" (13 katova). Ima velike prozore,pa se može slikat. Kao što vidite pogled je super! :)
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Oettinger pogledaj malo bolje,možda sinjaš svoju zgradu
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Svaguša je ono doli
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Ovo su neke čudne oznake koje idu iznad pruge. Sve su slike slikane tako da "gledaju" prema sjeveru.
Niži brojevi su južnije od viših.
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Još neka čudna oznaka kod dječje poliklinike
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A sada pasite oči na zgradi Crotia osiguranja :)
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Eto,to je to! :)
:runaway:
long foot November 2nd, 2005, 10:32 PM Veliš sakrili stanicu? :sly: Čudan grad :D
Ballota November 2nd, 2005, 11:13 PM Brale,nema je nigdi! Popi**ija san! :bash:
:) :)
SinCity November 2nd, 2005, 11:45 PM Thanks for the pics. If the station is not in use then its likely to be concealed so as to deter vandals, vagrants and also sill people that could end up on the tracks in front of trains as they pass Split below.
Thanks Mate for the attempt. :)
Ballota November 3rd, 2005, 12:10 AM Šta vam se čini od onih čudnih oznaka?
SinCity November 3rd, 2005, 12:14 AM Šta vam se čini od onih čudnih oznaka?
I wonder if its to do with how far below the surface are the train tunnels ?
As it travels more south then perhaps thats the reason the numbers drop???
I doubt any train tunnel would be 230m below the surface though????
OettingerCroat November 3rd, 2005, 01:17 AM hvala ti brate na fotke! i nema veze sto nisi slikao 26-u, svidilo mi se gledati ove slike!!! ;) puno hvala
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nisam prepoznao sukoisansku 26-u, ali zar nije ova zgrada policija i konsulat? ili nesto slicno. ovo ljeto s tatom sam posao u ovu desnu zgradu, morao je promjenuti osobnu izkaznicu. Nije vise hito da pise "Zagreb" nego da pise "Split."
Ballota November 3rd, 2005, 01:18 AM Maybe 230mm?
Ballota November 3rd, 2005, 01:20 AM hvala ti brate na fotke! i nema veze sto nisi slikao 26-u, sidilo mi se gledati ove slike!!! ;) puno hvala
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nisam prepoznao sukoisansku 26-u, ali zar nije ova zgrada policija i konsulat? ili nesto slicno. ovo ljeto s tatom sam posao u ovu desnu zgradu, morao je promjenuti osobnu izkaznicu. Nije vise hito da pise "Zagreb" nego da pise "Split."
The square building is the court ("Palača pravde") and the one with blue glass windows is MUP (police).
OettingerCroat November 3rd, 2005, 01:23 AM yah see i was basically correct.
Ballota November 7th, 2005, 04:30 PM Evo,nešto me puklo pa ću vas zasut sa slikama. :D
Promocija svečanog zastora u HNK
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Resnik
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Obilaznica (opet rođak :D)
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Cesta iza moje zgrade
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Ubrzo šaljem slike lanjskog snjega (kako ovo glupo zvuči :))!
Ballota November 9th, 2005, 01:08 PM Zašto ovdi niko ništa ne piše?
BUUUUUUUUU!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Ballota November 9th, 2005, 07:05 PM A,dobro. Ja nastavljam svoj slikovni monolog! :)
Vi se žalite na sporo obnavljanje kuća u Zagrebu? Ovaj užas (na Primi) se obnavlja od kada sam ja krenuo u srednju školu,dakle 4 godine,a možda i duže!
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Gradilište sveučilišne knjižnice
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Belveder
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A,sada kao što sam obećao-lanjski snijeg! :D
Pogled sa mog prozora:
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Pogled sa stubišta:
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Ispred zgrade:
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Autobusna stanica:
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Pujanke:
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Tragovi:
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Prijatelj:
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Belveder:
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Riva:
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Pločice:
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Eto,pa komentirajte. MOLIM VAS!!!
:master:
zeczg November 9th, 2005, 08:08 PM [QUOTE=Mate_Balota]A,dobro. Ja nastavljam svoj slikovni monolog! :)
pozdrav :)
jesi li vidio napis u jutarnjem neki dan? Split 2015. godine...
najljepši je na svitu,,,,, poslije zg-a
:hm:
long foot November 9th, 2005, 08:38 PM Baš sam htio spomenut taj članak. Nabrojili su puno lipih stvari. Daj bože da se ostvare!
Mate, ja bih rado komentirao tvoje slike, ali nažalost ne vidim nijednu :D (modem 56k)!
Ballota November 9th, 2005, 09:31 PM Joooj,sorry. Malo sam se zanio. :)
Čovjek valjda ne misli na takve stvari sa 192kbps kabelskom vezom. :D
Što se tiće članka u Jutarnjem,može li ga neko od vas skenirat i stavit na forum? Baš me zanima što je pisalo.
Thanks.
:runaway:
Endimion17 November 9th, 2005, 09:34 PM i ja sam na modemu trenutno.
vidio sam nekoliko slika, fora su mi one sa snigom.
dobro se vidi "bljuzga" u otiscima, to mi je jako poznato. to je primorski snijeg koji traje maksimalno par dana. :cry:
esseker November 10th, 2005, 01:56 PM aahhh snijeg :) obožavam ga! to je jedan od glavnih razloga zašto nikada ne bih mogao živjeti na moru... zimi bi umirao od zavisti prema kontinentalcima :)
Ballota November 10th, 2005, 08:25 PM Hvala na komentarima. :)
Nove slike slijede uskoro!
:) :) :)
OettingerCroat November 10th, 2005, 10:31 PM hella cool pics Mate!!!!
wow split looks like Moscow with all that snow :lol:
SinCity November 11th, 2005, 05:31 AM Thanks Mate! :okay:
I like the snow pics. I remember watching the news in Australia and they showed the snow falling on Split with the palm trees on the waterfront. A bit of a contradiction. :D
bubach_hlubach November 11th, 2005, 05:43 AM SinCity, i betcha you must miss snow desperately much ;)
:cheers:
MIMICA November 11th, 2005, 05:48 AM Coastal cities look so weird with snow. :D Palm trees with white pouder on them. LOL
bubach_hlubach November 11th, 2005, 05:49 AM Eh Dalmatinci moji, ajde neka netko pogodi gdje je ovo ;)
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:cheers:
SinCity November 11th, 2005, 06:13 AM SinCity, i betcha you must miss snow desperately much ;)
:cheers:
Believe it or not ..... I've never seen or touched snow. :(
I can go skiing in Australia in the resorts about 3 hours drive south of Sydney but have never bothered.
I'm a true Dalmatinac .... nothing beats the sun, sea, sand and the other "s" word ..... LOL :D
bubach_hlubach November 11th, 2005, 06:49 AM ^^ Well, I've never seen Kangaroos or Tasmanian devils either :D
It's pity you didnt ever experience snow. Snow sometimes could really look magic, especially in parks and country side. But what you dont wanna see, is snow in a city...when it starts melting, yuck...(we call it "bljuzga").
Damn, how many times i was late for work because i wasn't able to clean my car from snow and ice on time :D
:cheers:
Ballota November 11th, 2005, 06:06 PM Eh Dalmatinci moji, ajde neka netko pogodi gdje je ovo ;)
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:cheers:
Prva me slika podsjeća na Đardin prije uređenja. Ali me ostale zbunjuju! Bubač procvijetli me! :)
A,sada malo nečega čemu ja nikada ne mogu odolit! Crveno nebo uvijek uljepša svaku situaciju,heh! :D
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Živili :cheers:
bubach_hlubach November 11th, 2005, 08:17 PM Prva me slika podsjeća na Đardin prije uređenja. Ali me ostale zbunjuju! Bubač procvijetli me! :)
Grad pod snigom se nalazi izmedju Zadra i Splita. Evo sad kad san ti maltene odgovorija, mora bi znati ;)
:cheers:
RTX November 11th, 2005, 08:41 PM Grad pod snigom se nalazi izmedju Zadra i Splita. Evo sad kad san ti maltene odgovorija, mora bi znati ;)
:cheers:Mogu li odgovoriti Bosanci? Radi se o Sibeniku. I da nisi rekao da je grad izmedju Zadra i Splita znao bi da se radi o Sibeniku jer sam prepoznao slike. Radi se o dijelu i ulici koja vodi ka rivi barem na jednoj slici. :cheers:
BTW. When I am on SCU what is about US project in Split, hotels and etc? I heard some stories few years back but until now nothing new?
bubach_hlubach November 11th, 2005, 08:53 PM Mogu li odgovoriti Bosanci? Radi se o Sibeniku. I da nisi rekao da je grad izmedju Zadra i Splita znao bi da se radi o Sibeniku jer sam prepoznao slike. Radi se o dijelu i ulici koja vodi ka rivi barem na jednoj slici. :cheers:
Pravo u sridu :okay:
Odgovor je tocan :)
BTW. When I am on SCU what is about US project in Split, hotels and etc? I heard some stories few years back but until now nothing new?
Dont have a clue, i am a "kontinentalac" :D
Mate Balota might know as well as he knew that the city under snow was Sibenik :D :jk:
:cheers:
RTX November 11th, 2005, 08:54 PM I don't know did you guys mention this project in Splmit but I found photo on Bosnian constr. company site Sirbegovic.
Kaufland Split
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This pics are so big that I will link them.
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Ballota November 15th, 2005, 06:36 PM Zanimala vas je Lazaritza,jel? Eto vam je tute! :D
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Moj omiljeni kafić na Rivi (joj šta volim plavi neon):
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Tunel kod Gripa:
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mic of Orion November 15th, 2005, 07:30 PM great stuff Mate, nice tunnel, :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Ballota November 15th, 2005, 08:10 PM You just keep on laughing! There is a second road tunnel in Split --> tunnel Marjan and it s 840m long! :cheers:
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Not to mentione the two railway tunnels-first one under Brda (900m) and the second one under the center (1900m).
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Btw. Two new tunnels are planed-one under Varoš (500m) and another one under Riva (520m)!
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Split is a real tunnel-city! :D
SinCity November 15th, 2005, 11:33 PM WOW. Thanks Mate for showing us the locations of road and rail tunnels thru Split. I was going to ask someone if they knew and of course you have shown to be quite the specialist. :)
How annoying is the fact that they could easily operate a few metro stations in those rail tunnels which total 3km in length.
Man you guys have heaps of tunnels in Split. BTW, great pics of Split. :okay:
Ballota November 16th, 2005, 05:20 PM Thank you sir!
:D
SinCity November 16th, 2005, 11:46 PM Thank you sir!
:D
No. Let us Thank You! :D
Ballota November 17th, 2005, 12:26 AM My plesure,sir! :D
OettingerCroat November 17th, 2005, 01:41 AM mate, na te dvije zadnje slike, je su li to tuneli za automobilski ili zeljeznicki promet? jer ako je za zeljeznicu, stvarno bi jako lagano mogli imati fini metro system lol
Ballota November 17th, 2005, 01:46 AM Ne. To su cestovni tuneli. Ispod Rive će biti i ogromna podzemna garaža!
Ti tuneli su prijeko potrebni zato što split ima jako lošu "istok-zapad" povezanost!
Što se metroa tiće u planu je pokretanje lakošinske prigradske željeznice koja bi imala stanice u gradskoj luci,na općini (podzemne stanice na sudu i dječjoj poliklinici),Kopilici,Solinu,Kaštelima i nadam se Resniku!
Kada,to je još,naravno,napoznanica.
:runaway:
bambam November 17th, 2005, 08:23 AM Ne. To su cestovni tuneli. Ispod Rive će biti i ogromna podzemna garaža!
Ti tuneli su prijeko potrebni zato što split ima jako lošu "istok-zapad" povezanost!
Što se metroa tiće u planu je pokretanje lakošinske prigradske željeznice koja bi imala stanice u gradskoj luci,na općini (podzemne stanice na sudu i dječjoj poliklinici),Kopilici,Solinu,Kaštelima i nadam se Resniku!
Kada,to je još,naravno,napoznanica.
:runaway:
ISPOD RIVE I S POZEMNOM GARAZOM???? Jesu li Splicani totalno prolupali???? Pokraj stare jezgre grada... zamisli samo da od tih vibracija/busotina koje ce biti korz gradnju tunela i garaza dodje do ostecenja na zidinama ili nekim drugim zgradama ili slicno... Najbolji primjer je Trogir koji se nalazi na linijama aviona koji slijecu na aerodrom i samo zbog toga se ruse i pucaju zgrade.. ako se pocne busiti sta ce se dole sve naci... pa ce se radovi morati ponovo zaustaviti... svjetska klima je sve toplija a more sve vise raste pa da vam kroz paar godina garaza bude poplavljenja... gluposti... koji ce vam kuxxx to? Garaze se mogu i negdje drugo graditi a ne bas ispod zasticene bastine UN-a.. A povezanost istok zapad??? Isto tako se tuneli mogu na drugom mjestu graditi a ne bas pod rivom.. to jos nisam nigdje cuo ni vidio na svjetu.. no dobro Split mora kontra svita... e ak mi sjebete grad mojih djedova onda se odricem dalmacije i smatrat cu se samo jos purgerom.. da te bog u sumi okrene!
long foot November 17th, 2005, 09:32 AM Mate, thanks for pics of gripe, I think can see my elementary school there ;)
Što se tiče ovih tunela, ideja je odlična, čak i ispod rive, ako se posao obavi kako treba. U barceloni imaju upravo takav tunel i garažu na obali u centru grada.
bambam November 17th, 2005, 09:50 AM U barceloni imaju upravo takav tunel i garažu na obali u centru grada.
Slazem se za Barcelonu.. no ovdje se radi o dijelu grada koji se vise od 1800 godina star i koji je zasticena kulturna bastina. Taj tunel ispod ce uzrokovati stale vibracije u zemlji a to nece dobro doci staroj jezgri grada.. isto tako ne razumijem opet... u svim evropskim gradovima se radi na tome da se auta preusmjere iz centra grada da nema guze a u Splitu se radi kontra tome.
AstroBoy November 17th, 2005, 09:59 AM That palace is so solid that I dont think it will be going anywhere in a hurry. ;)
However if they do construct tunnel in its vicinity, I'm more than sure they'll uncover many interesting artefacts from Roman times.
bambam November 17th, 2005, 10:32 AM That palace is so solid that I dont think it will be going anywhere in a hurry. ;)
However if they do construct tunnel in its vicinity, I'm more than sure they'll uncover many interesting artefacts from Roman times.
Cuj u Trogiru imaju vleikih problema s tim da avioni prelecu grad zbog splitksog aerodroma... a kako ce tek biti kad ispod zemlje grad bude stalno izlozen tim lakim "potresima".. a srce na ruku... ona ulica koja ide prema trajektonoj luci koja bi se spojila na rivi s tim tunelom je uvijek u prometnom kolapsu. Ako vec graditi tunel onda zasto ne prije starog grada? To bi puno vise bilo od koristi mjestanima nego li jedan tunel u koji nemogu uci jer ga turisti zbog ukrcavanja na trjakte od proljeca do kasno u ljeto blokiraju?!? To je uzalundo fuckanje s novcem kojeg bi bolje mogli iskoristiti za javni gradski prijevoz!
Ballota November 17th, 2005, 11:40 AM Ta ulica će biti proširena i podignuta iznad zemlje!
A što se tiće tunela,neki Amerikanci su se ponudili sa svojim milijunima da to naprave,a onda valjda crpe lovu od parkiranja. Ne znam sad točno. Oni kaži da će sve biti izvedeno tako da se sačuva jezgra!
Bit će još dosta podzemnih garaža. U planu je jedna ispod sadašnjeg parkirališta kraj starog Hajdukovog stadiona! To je blizu sjevernog ulaza u tunel Varoš! Kod Brodarice će biti još jedno. Ima jedno već gotovo blizu moje škole,na kraju Tesline ulice.
:runaway:
bambam November 17th, 2005, 12:13 PM Oni kaži da će sve biti izvedeno tako da se sačuva jezgra!
Zivi bili pa vidjeli.. a poslije jebanja nema kajanja!
:puke:
bambam November 17th, 2005, 03:08 PM Bez daljneg komentara samo proctajte ovo ca pise na uefinim strnicama :cheers:
For Heaven´s sake, kick him
Croatian champions HNK Hajduk Split have been out of sorts this season, bowing out to Debreceni VSC in the UEFA Champions League qualifiers and dropping to fifth in the 1. NHL table. It seems God may be in part to blame after defender Goran Granić announced that his new-found Roman Catholicism prevents him from making his trademark gritty challenges. "I'm so devoted to God now that I have started to avoid committing fouls during matches," admitted Granić. "God has created football for fun and relaxation. He would not like players to commit harsh fouls." Granić could not deny that God's intervention had hampered his performances this season. "I could probably have saved some key goals during the season if I had committed fouls to stop players scoring," admitted the 30-year-old.
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subreal November 17th, 2005, 05:26 PM Bez daljneg komentara samo proctajte ovo ca pise na uefinim strnicama :cheers:
...
"God has created football for fun and relaxation. He would not like players to commit harsh fouls." Granić could not deny that God's intervention had hampered his performances this season. "I could probably have saved some key goals during the season if I had committed fouls to stop players scoring," admitted the 30-year-old.
:master: :master: :master: :master:
:hilarious :hilarious :hilarious
Haaaaahahahaaaaaaaaa... genije... netko bi mu trebao objasniti da on ne igra nogomet "for fun and relaxation" nego "for money"... :D :D
bubach_hlubach November 17th, 2005, 09:20 PM Cuj u Trogiru imaju vleikih problema s tim da avioni prelecu grad zbog splitksog aerodroma... a kako ce tek biti kad ispod zemlje grad bude stalno izlozen tim lakim "potresima".. a srce na ruku... ona ulica koja ide prema trajektonoj luci koja bi se spojila na rivi s tim tunelom je uvijek u prometnom kolapsu. Ako vec graditi tunel onda zasto ne prije starog grada? To bi puno vise bilo od koristi mjestanima nego li jedan tunel u koji nemogu uci jer ga turisti zbog ukrcavanja na trjakte od proljeca do kasno u ljeto blokiraju?!? To je uzalundo fuckanje s novcem kojeg bi bolje mogli iskoristiti za javni gradski prijevoz!
Ovo za Trogir i probleme s kojima se susrece ovaj grad zbog prelijetanja zrakoplova, nisam jos nikada cuo. Inace, slazem se sa svim ostalim. Stara jezgra Splita bi se trebala tretirati kao Dubrovnik, a ne ju izlagati rizicima. :nono:
Mozda ce nas ipak UNESCO zaustaviti svojim upozorenjima da ce izbrisati dioklecijanovu palacu s njihove liste :D
:cheers:
Ballota November 18th, 2005, 12:13 PM Sad ću citirat jednog popularnog gradonačelnika:
"Pustimo da struka odluči."
:D :D :D :D :D
long foot November 18th, 2005, 01:42 PM Sad ću citirat jednog popularnog gradonačelnika:
"Pustimo da struka odluči."
:D :D :D :D :D
:lol: omiljena fraza naših političara :D
bubach_hlubach November 18th, 2005, 09:27 PM Sad ću citirat jednog popularnog gradonačelnika:
"Pustimo da struka odluči."
:D :D :D :D :D
Mozda struka muljanja? Jer osim svih drugih struka, samo im ova ide od ruke :D
:cheers:
Ballota November 20th, 2005, 08:40 PM ISPOD RIVE I S POZEMNOM GARAZOM???? Jesu li Splicani totalno prolupali???? Pokraj stare jezgre grada... zamisli samo da od tih vibracija/busotina koje ce biti korz gradnju tunela i garaza dodje do ostecenja na zidinama ili nekim drugim zgradama ili slicno... Najbolji primjer je Trogir koji se nalazi na linijama aviona koji slijecu na aerodrom i samo zbog toga se ruse i pucaju zgrade.. ako se pocne busiti sta ce se dole sve naci... pa ce se radovi morati ponovo zaustaviti... svjetska klima je sve toplija a more sve vise raste pa da vam kroz paar godina garaza bude poplavljenja... gluposti... koji ce vam kuxxx to? Garaze se mogu i negdje drugo graditi a ne bas ispod zasticene bastine UN-a.. A povezanost istok zapad??? Isto tako se tuneli mogu na drugom mjestu graditi a ne bas pod rivom.. to jos nisam nigdje cuo ni vidio na svjetu.. no dobro Split mora kontra svita... e ak mi sjebete grad mojih djedova onda se odricem dalmacije i smatrat cu se samo jos purgerom.. da te bog u sumi okrene!
http://www.find-croatia.com/photos-croatia/old-photos-croatia/split/slides/split-diokletian-palace.jpg
Iz priložene se slike vidi da ispod Rive nema nikakvih starina je jednostavno prije 1700+ godina nije ni postojala! Ne znam točno kada je izgrađena,ali mislim da nije starija više od 500-600 godina!
SinCity November 20th, 2005, 11:18 PM Dont be surprised at what could be found in the infill in front of the Roman palace.
You only have to see what Sv Donat in Zadar (circa 9th century) sits on ..... for example at the base of Sv Donat they have uncovered foundations such as sections of pillars and other components of the great Roman forum that once sat there. There is a good chance that similar may be sitting in the built up area in front of Diocleatian's palace. Thats pretty much a certainty. :yes:
bambam November 21st, 2005, 09:32 AM http://www.find-croatia.com/photos-croatia/old-photos-croatia/split/slides/split-diokletian-palace.jpg
Iz priložene se slike vidi da ispod Rive nema nikakvih starina je jednostavno prije 1700+ godina nije ni postojala! Ne znam točno kada je izgrađena,ali mislim da nije starija više od 500-600 godina!
Radi se o tome da ce ti radovi dok god nebudu zavrseni izlagati stari dio grada stalnim potresima, isto tako ce biti kad se gomila automobila budu vozili kroz njega... pa to nije toliko tesko zamisliti i za onoga koji nema blage veze sa statikom... kad sve dodje u pokret zbog tih potresa pa zidovi na nekim dijelovima budu poceli pucati jer se "mörtel" pocinje pretvarati u prah i sa tim vise nebude drzao kam na kamen... kad se i one vec nagnute zgrade u starom gradu di su morali staviti zeljezne stubove izmedju njih da jedna zgrada drugu stabilizira jer bi se naprotiv urusila urusi...
A druga stvar je i sa garazom.. di da se to gradi pod morem? Ispod rive poput tunela nem mjesta za to! Takav mal gradic kao sto je Split di mozes pisice za 20tak minuta biti gdje god hoces stvarno netreba takvo nesto... investirajte te novce u dobro funkcionirani gradski prijevoz.. na to upravo mislim na prigradsku zeljeznicu koja bi furala svaki 10 min i naravno puno bolja pokrivenost novih klimatiziranih autobusa po gradu i predgradjima... na rubovima garda napraviti garaze di bi se moglo ostaviti auto pa i besplatno uz to da se korisit gradski prijevoz..itd..
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