Since this forum is being literally inundated with Miami threads....

I think that I am going to sticky the "mega" threads for the other, less active cities. I think it is pointless for dozens of Miami threads to be clogging the forum, thus pushing all of the other good discussion of other cities out of sight. And since these other cities only have one megathread per city, it wouldn't take up much space at all to have all of other city's development threads stickied.


Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa, St Pete, Clearwater, Bradenton, Sarasota, Ft Myers, West Palm and FTL would be stickied.

That's only 10 threads, thus leaving the other 40 front page slots for generalized discussion, which is totally dominated by Miami anyways... It still results in like 30 Miami threads on the front page, but it also lets folks actually find these other key threads, without having to go digging for them on the back pages.


Thoughts?

^ i feel ya,

i would like to hear bout stuff in the rest of booming florida, but i donno why there really isnt that much talk goin on,

anyways at least we made a couple giant threads for the miami like the cbd thread and brickell thread, good idea, we should incopororate this into tampa and jax and orl threads, like same idea.

give miami a forum, the amount of activity puts it at the level or new york, chicago, los angeles, and toronto

JASON, :) I 'm guessing , But I think the Guest Like THE FLORIDA Forum the WAY it is now, thats why you see so many Guest in here now, They want it to stay the way it is now, Its NO problem to them, but , I could be wrong, We'll have to wait and see other opinons. :cheers:

anyways at least we made a couple giant threads for the miami like the cbd thread and brickell thread, good idea, we should incopororate this into tampa and jax and orl threads, like same idea.


Umm, those mega threads for Miami were created because I told people to do it, because Miami talk was clogging the forum even worse before. I also created the mega thread for Tampa, which over time sparked the creation of other mega threads, as that one grew and was split up. Every mega thread here exists because I pushed for their creation (and I think they are great!). What I am saying is that I am going to sticky them unless people from those cities oppose it.


Keep in mind, the point of doing this would be so that the staff wouldn't have to worry about whether or not Miami threads are flooding the forum needlessly. This thread isn't a referendum on Miami. It has nothing to do with Miami. It is about stickying the development mega threads of the other Florida cities to the top, where they are orderly, visible and out of the way.

Jason...first of all, I can't tell you how much I enjoy the work you do here, and the great information and opinion provided by all.
Especially the cats posting right after YOU!
I can tell you that I've talked to a half a dozen people from out of state that are getting info from the forums, and although they choose not to post, they are really paying attention.
I'm not sure about the inner workings of the forums, (the sticky and the icky) but personally, I'd love to learn more about the goings on of the other cities around state, and to hear others opinions. Certainly, the State of Florida is getting better by the day and we all seem to have a lot of love for our respective cities.
Again, you've done a great job so far, I'll trust that you know what you are doing!

give miami a forum, the amount of activity puts it at the level or new york, chicago, los angeles, and toronto

No, it doesn't.

I ackowledge that folks are proud of their cities and all, but I've been doing this kind of thing for several years now, and the staff knows exactly what we're doing. Believe me, we will know on our own when we feel that there needs to be a division of a forum due to growth. As it is now, the Florida forum is nowhere in this realm, and has been in fact discussed for consolidation out of the Metro forum group for not being an appropriate fit.

Again, this thread is not about Miami, so discussions continuing along this line are completely pointless.

give miami a forum, the amount of activity puts it at the level or new york, chicago, los angeles, and toronto

No, it doesn't.

I ackowledge that folks are proud of their cities and all, but I've been doing this kind of thing for several years now, and the staff knows exactly what we're doing. Believe me, we will know on our own when we feel that there needs to be a division of a forum due to growth. As it is now, the Florida forum is nowhere in this realm, and has been in fact discussed for consolidation out of the Metro forum group for not being an appropriate fit.

Again, this thread is not about Miami, so discussions continuing along this line are completely pointless.

ya, ur rite... i got a little carried away... just envisioning my city and what its future will be like as one of america's greatest, but comparing it to the likes of new york, la, chicago, and toronto wasnt accurate, apples and oranges... the florida forum works great, and i think this was a great idea, keep up the great work jason, we all appreciate it

Jason...first of all, I can't tell you how much I enjoy the work you do here, and the great information and opinion provided by all.
Especially the cats posting right after YOU!
I can tell you that I've talked to a half a dozen people from out of state that are getting info from the forums, and although they choose not to post, they are really paying attention.


Thanks! I know that lots of people from all over look at these threads regularly, because I can see them in the IP logs. It amazes me that the Tampa development thread, for example, averages about 600-900 hits a week these days (this is really high for just one thread which gets only a trickle of posts). This startled us so much that in the past we have altered the thread's URL in the database, thinking that other sites were hijacking our bandwidth. (they weren't)

Over time, these mega threads have become exactly what I had hoped they would become. A consolidated source for development information published elsewhere on the net about these cities and their projects. And sometimes, we even "scoop" the news thanks to locals in the know. (hehe)

Unlike a typical discussion forum which is very fluid in the way that old discussions are forgotten quickly and information lost, I want certain aspects of our discussions to basically be an interactive database, where folks both cull information and contribute to it in real time.

(it's too bad that no software exists to create the kind of forum that I really want. This place would truly be unique on the net)

And just to give credit where it's due... the whole "megathread" concept goes to the Philly forumers at SSP, who created mega development threads for their city like 3 years ago as a way to keep it in one place, and to also keep their city's thread from constantly getting lost in the hectic posting that occurred on SSP's P&C forum.

I didn't "invent" this idea, I merely have utilized it and expanded upon it. :)

JASON, I'm new , so I can't say much to make a choice here, but look at the Favorite City POLL, We can't VOTE Twice in that poll, True , but look at the percentage now its at 45 % for MIAMI, and the Guest are voting too, seems like they like the way this Forum works, I say we all are doing a good job here of keeping informed, I like the way its going now, but if you think there needs a change , your the Administrator that has that power, If I was in charge, I would just like it be for awhile, and just see if any big problems happen, As long as everyone is happy. Then , Again I could be wrong, I'm new, too.

I don't understand the correlation between a city winning a "favorite city" poll, and having the development threads of many Florida cities stickied to the top of the forum, where they are more easily accessible. As I've already said, this does nothing but actually free up Miami forumers to post about Miami more freely, since the "less active" cities would have secured representation, and wouldn't get lost in the shuffle.

And btw, of course if there is a problem, we would address it. That's the beauty of the internet. If something doesn't work, you can change it. :)


This will be up for a while, as I want to hear what forumers from other cites think. I already knew what Miami forumers would have to say about it, and that has been confirmed.

This sounds like a great idea. Orlando gets very little representation on this forum because of the reasons you have mentioned. If it were stickied, I would put more effort into doing frequent updates. Right now its just not worth it because it falls to the bottom almost immediately.

I agree wholeheartedly with your idea JH. In fact I wouldn't mind if you held some Miami fourumers to using the megathreads more often or even encouraging not to post quite so much. There's a lot of great information here, but it's been covered up in fluff the last few months. Could we make one uber-Miami megathread sticky with the understanding that it would just be information, and let discussion happen in other threads?

just ideas...

I like the idea. I also think Miami members should make a mega thread that could be stickied with the other cities. That way, all the major FL cities have a Mega thread to post in and the rest of the forum can be about individual developments and other stuff that pops up that people may want to discuss seperatly. It would make it easier for people that don't visit often to keep up on the news from all the different places.

Sounds pretty good to me. There's a lot of things happening in Jacksonville, but I rarely post much of it here, because it gets pushed from the top of the page, fairly fast. Whenever, you get ready to make the change, I 'd like to update the P&C list for the Jax thread.

Jason great idea...just sticky all the other Florida cities since they get pushed to the bottom of the page. I'd like to suggest maybe making the mega threads Rx made about the various areas in Miami also sticky threads (Brickell, CBD,South Beach,etc.)
that way we can keep any new developments pertaining to those areas in one thread....what do you think?

I thought about stickying those Miami threads, but that would hog up like 40% of the front page with sticky threads.

I also thought about a P&C subforum like the NYC forum has, but that would probably result in the same problem. I thought about doing a P&C subforum for just Miami, but that is too segregational, and I don't like segregating stuff off like that, as then people don't mingle and isn't that the whole point of a forum?

This idea is what I feel most comfortable starting out with. I just want to make sure others are OK with it, and see what other ideas folks have. There are some good ones, I'm just not sure if they would be better for us. (I won't do this for a few days, giving us all time to think about it :))

^^ditto!!

I think it is a capital idea. That way everyone can find the threads they are looking for - as the miami ones are and will be obvious and the other ones will be obviousto. Go to it, amigo.

I think it's the right thing to do. At the beginning I felt that Miami forumers should just consolidate all their P&C news into 1 thread... however that would sort of reduce the amount of threads in this subforum to almost nothing (majority of threads here are individual Miami projects).
I also feel that Miami has SO MUCH construction going on it would be impossible to consolidate it all into 1 thread, it would probably completely kill even a typical broadband connection. So instead of having every Florida city with a stickied P&C thread, I think you're doing the right thing by featuring the "less popular" cities. I agree I don't post here as much, as do most other non-Miami Floridians since the only threads that get major attention here are Miami. Go for it JH, I think it would get more exposure for Florida's other cities without pushing Miami out of the limelight :)

I have begun sticking these threads to the top. The forum is running VERY slow for me, and I have stuff to do, so I will finish later.


I think that I will also merge some of these stickies that are slow going. Like Clearwater into St Pete, and possibly Bradenton, Sarasota and Ft Myers into a big "SW Florida" thread.... I also intend to create one for the Panhandle area, and then possible one for the "Space Coast" or something, so that Daytona to Boca has a spot for any news in that region. Any of the regionalized Development News threads would simpoly have the cities therein displayed in the thread title.

Acknowledging that yu said you will finish later, jsut wanted to make sure you're putting the Tampa thread in the sticky area. . .I like it a lot. It makes life a lot easier.

absolutely. FTL and WPB too.

Also, Isn't there an FTL mega thread? I can't seem to find it.

It must be listed as something else, because I KNOW that there was one.... Hmm, maybe Jan somehow pruned it in error...



In any case, I am going to arrange it so that folks interested in maintaining the activity lists for these threads are listed as the thread creator, so that they can assist in the thread upkeep.

So, if you want to be the person who keeps up the list for any of these areas, let me know, and I will make sure that you're the thread creator, so that you can edit the initial post.