I'd say it's about time we got one for this area now.
Haugesund is at the crossroads, we are in a time where we have to face the very same problems Drammen had to face, the inner city choking on cars. The city centre becoming less attractive, and the flight to the suburbs.

Haugesund's total land area is not very big. Only some 70 sq km, around 60 if you don't count the sea. This means that at one point we cannot continue sprawling with houses like so many other Norwegian cities have, without potentially destroying good farmland, or even our beloved hills. Byheiene.

Which for some greedy developers may be ripe for building, to build their fancy big houses on, with garages, fat wives, and SUVs. But this is not very sustainable in the long run, is it?

Meanwhile, things are not doing good in the city centre, like Oslo we now have drug dealers up and down our very pedestrian street, Haraldsgaten. Making the city less attractive, and again causing people to go shop at Raglamyr instead. Our ever expanding little piece of suburban mall hell. :nuts:

But that's not all, the streets of Haugesund city centre are all quite narrow, this isn't really something we can deal with easily. As we can't widen them. That would require razing entire cityblocks, and that's a big no no. However there's been several suggestions; one way roads being one, it has helped some, but never quite solved the problem, one alternative was also to try to rid the downtown grid of as much car traffic as possible.

That wouldn't seem to be very sustainable either.


But there are some exciting news:

Fagerheim | Haugesund North


There seem to be no renders as of yet, but seeing as I live directly south of the proposed area, I and the rest of neighours received some public viewings of the 'planforslag' For this area.

http://i.imgur.com/d1Hw2.jpg

But from what there's to be read:

They want the area to be dense, eco friendly and less dependant on cars, relying more on mass transit, walking, cycling, and electric/small cars.

What exactly 'dense' would mean here though, remains to be seen. Knowing Norway, 'dense' could be rowhouses for all we know about the word density...

But there are things that sparked my interest:
- High density around mass transit hubs | Could this possibly mean highrises?
- Mixed use development | They are very positive to the ideas of shops integrated with the apartments and offices, i.e ground floor shops.
- They want to have waterways | Possibly meaning either canals, who knows?
- They want trails, urban squares, and pedestrian friendly streets | What would they mean with 'urban squares', do they really want to make an urban living area?

As a whole it seems positive, as the only thing we have up until recently when building northwards, is houses, houses, and more houses, and a small number of apartment buildings in between.

Bleikemyr itself is a total disaster, over 8000 people living here, and only two shops, both small too, whoever designed it like that should have been slapped across the face!

They've basically developed it in such a way that to really get anything you need, you HAVE to get to Raglamyr in the east or Norheim, which is the southern end of town, and actually Karmøy's mainland side.


Other projects:

--Haugesund--

Spannavegen 136:

http://i.imgur.com/qZ7P0.jpg

Possible redevlopment site:

If this old gas station is torn down, they may build a building up to six floors , not bad if they pull it off.
http://i.imgur.com/F7nB6.jpg

Møllergården , Haugesund Sentrum
http://i.imgur.com/z4kRY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ElK1w.jpg

Fedjedalstunet - NO NO NO NO NO! >_>

http://i.imgur.com/NPg27.jpg





--Karmøy| Kopervik--

Gofarnes havn, not much to be said, but eh, it's something.
http://i.imgur.com/eoGG4.jpg

--Karmøy| Åkrehamn--

Utsikten leilighetskompleks

http://i.imgur.com/vxGsu.jpg

Any links about the Fagerheim project?

Tried finding any, not to much luck, i kept getting Fagerheim in Langesund.

Maybe it will be out later? i have this like, 15 page summation of it that all the neighbours received.

Sentrum i sentrum (http://www.h-avis.no/nyheter/sentrum-i-sentrum-1.6664482)

I can't say i love that expansion of Amanda in Raglamyr, but I understand why,if we don't, Stavanger will.

What kind of logic is that? :ohno: Would people in Haugesund rather drive to Stavanger to shop there instead if the shopping was buildt there?

Or is it more of a pride issue against Stavanger?

Nice to see a lot of activity in the Haugesund-area.. Møllergården looks quite nice.

Stavanger is not relevant but Aksdal could easy take over Raglamyr growth if Tysvær politicians got their way...

What kind of logic is that? :ohno: Would people in Haugesund rather drive to Stavanger to shop there instead if the shopping was buildt there?

Or is it more of a pride issue against Stavanger?

Yes and no, it's more the fact that local politicians are desperate to keep things in Haugesund, basically, the main driving force is Coop wanting to expand the anchor store, Coop Obs!, and yeah, one of their arguments was, that if we don't comply to their wishes, the Stavanger region will..

Which sort of is a dumb argument. I guess it is sort of competing.

But yeah, Aksdal is also a valid arguement, but it is still small fish compared to Haugesund and Stavanger though.

Well, if its only coop, it makes more sense..

Thon's new hotel in Haugesund. Bland? Yes. Just like any Thon? Yup! Gives some much needed density? I guess...
http://www.h-avis.no/polopoly_fs/thon-1.6668790!/image/153253466.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_980/153253466.jpg
http://www.h-avis.no/nyheter/dette-er-thons-nye-hotell-i-haugesund-1.6668788

God, Thon-architects. Is it possible? The worst is that I actually met one once. I should've just kicked him in the balls...

Well, if its only coop, it makes more sense..

Coop operates shopping malls in some parts of the country. Many different samvirkelags have different strategies for their businesses.

This would be the plot for the expansion btw:
http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/3/31/4/276/813/84_645260273_xl.jpg


And then with some more digging i found more:



Welcome to the 1880s!


Karmøy| Skudesneshavn
http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/11/23/6/308/056/26_1484320558_xl.jpg

http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/11/23/6/308/056/26_-1134040242_xl.jpg




Karmøy/Haugesund Mainland| Kolnes

Skretoppen, Skre
http://i.imgur.com/rZhXe.jpg


http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/9/21/5/302/939/75_-442243430_xl.jpg


http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/9/21/5/302/939/75_992207564_xl.jpg




Karmøy/Haugesund Mainland| Norheim
Spannalia trinn 2

http://i.imgur.com/MRiBa.jpg
http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/8/9/8/299/781/78_1539306529_xl.jpg



http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/8/9/8/299/781/78_1732892919_xl.jpg

http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/8/9/8/299/781/78_1182655928_xl.jpg




Karmøy | Åkrehamn

Vannliljen Amfi
http://i.imgur.com/dj2JU.jpg
http://finncdn.no/mmo/2/241/403/92_-2074143942_xl.jpg

Tysvær | Førresfjorden

Nygård Terrasse rowhouses
http://finncdn.no/mmo/7/229/624/77_555025502_xl.jpg

http://finncdn.no/mmo/7/229/624/77_1599544345_xl.jpg

http://finncdn.no/mmo/7/229/624/77_-969408000_xl.jpg



Karmøy | Vedavågen

http://finncdn.no/mmo/3/206/034/03_1163691045_xl.jpg


http://finncdn.no/mmo/3/206/034/03_289986167_xl.jpg




Karmøy | Kopervik

Kalvatresjøen

http://finncdn.no/mmo/2011/12/1/9/320/801/79_-742918850_xl.jpg

Quite a few suburban-looking projects so far, and Thon making its way everywhere! :ohno:

Nice thread GlennHGSD, keep it up! :cheers:

Yeah, a lot of suburban developments... Honestly wish there was more proper ones downtown, be that Haugesund, Kopervik, or Skudesneshavn.. but oh well.

EUROPAN 11 - FLOTMYR

RUNNERUP
Hip-Hubs

http://static.europan.no/entries/3115/4ecb7512-aa1c-4802-aa11-411cf30405d2

http://static.europan.no/entries/3115/4ecb7514-37d4-4ba1-a489-438af30405d2

http://static.europan.no/entries/3115/4ecb7518-f368-46e6-9309-4c42f30405d2

RUNNERUP
Flotmyr er tilbake på postkortet:

http://static.europan.no/entries/3122/4ecb75ec-2f34-48da-9dd4-4685f30405d2

http://static.europan.no/entries/3122/4ecb75f1-91f0-487e-9733-4ecff30405d2

http://static.europan.no/entries/3122/4ecb75f6-292c-4231-9018-4176f30405d2

http://www.europan.no/E11/Haugesund/winners

"Flotmyr er tilbake på postkortet" looks great.

The Thon hotel, jeesus...looks like a parking garage

"Flotmyr er tilbake på postkortet" looks great.

Yes, really great actually!

Um.. ok?

http://www.h-avis.no/puls/bare-hundre-til-ostebo-1.6738525

Hemningstad gård:

No big apartments here, but it will never the less fill a vast open spot in the middle of the town O.o

To those who are not familar:
Hemningstad Gård used to be a farm/estate in the countryside, before Haugesund caught up with it, but the owner has been reluctant to selling it until now.
You can see the old villa, most likely going to be preserved on the hill top.
http://finncdn.no/mmo/2012/2/9/7/331/537/77_-1773147818_xl.jpg

http://finncdn.no/mmo/2012/2/9/7/331/537/77_-422449796_xl.jpg

As you can see on the aerials: there are houses/buildings surrounding it on all sides:

http://kart.gulesider.no/m/9rI9o

Ai ai ai, verre blir det jo bare.

http://www.h-avis.no/nyheter/slakter-haaland-stenger-denne-uken-1.7140999

Samtidig:

http://www.h-avis.no/bildeserier/nyhet/tomme-lokaler-i-sentrum-1.6696889

Ting går verre i sentrum ser det ut som, butikkene dropper som fluer. =/

Det som er mest synd er jo at flotte bygninger som disse står tomme eller delvis tomme:

http://www.h-avis.no/polopoly_fs/sentrum-1.7134135!/image/1778505701.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_980/1778505701.jpg

http://www.h-avis.no/polopoly_fs/tomme-lokaler-1.6696911!/image/369088275.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_980/369088275.jpg

http://www.h-avis.no/polopoly_fs/tomme-lokaler-1.6696903!/image/2757973974.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_980/2757973974.jpg

http://www.h-avis.no/polopoly_fs/sentrum-1.7134577!/image/2132796032.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_980/2132796032.jpg

^^ Trist å se en slik utvikling. Hva er grunnen? Er det kjøpesentere som tar over kundene? Og gjør kommunen noe for å stanse denne trenden?

Dette var overraskende.

Hadde trodd på en billedserie på 5-10 bilder, men den bare fortsatte. Er det overhodet forretninger igjen i sentrum?

:ohno:

Så synd å se. Hva sier de lokale byplanleggerne om saken?

Det er bare å slutte seg til den naturlige reaksjonen om at dette er sørgelige greier. Jeg skrev et et innlegg (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83979369&postcount=150) om denne trenden ifjor for Haugesund i Drammen-tråden. De tomme lokalene viser og understreker en trend som går i feil retning. De folkevalgte og administrasjonen i Haugesund er naturligvis ansvarlige. Ved å fortsette å verne ihjel sentrum, samtidig som at alt av boligbygging er suburbia og bilbaserte kjempesenter som Amanda stadig utvides, blir resultatet dette. Trist.

Dette var overraskende.

Hadde trodd på en billedserie på 5-10 bilder, men den bare fortsatte. Er det overhodet forretninger igjen i sentrum?

:ohno:

Ja, ifølge indeksen på siden er det 49 forskjellige bilder og det virker som hvert enkelt bilde er av forskjellige butikker. Altså er det 49 butikker som står tomme (kanskje mer og, jeg vet ikke om de har tatt bilde av alt?). Det er forferdelig mye med tanke på Haugesunds størelse!

Samtidig viser grafen (fra wiki btw) at Haugesund vokser, og det ganske rakst til og med:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Befolkningsutvikling_kommune_1106.svg

Så her er det åpenbart gjort noe gærent og man kan ikke skylle på befolkningstap.

Det er vel nye kjøpesentere i utkanten som har skylden, som vanlig. Ser ut som om Haugesund har to relativt stor kjøpesentere, Oasen med 70 butikker og Amanda med 67 butikker, begge rundt 4 km fra sentrum.

Det er virkelig synd, spesielt siden dette er en trend det er ganske lett å snu. Byplanlegging rettet mot å styrke eksisterende sentra funker, selv i mer markedsliberalistiske land enn Norge.

Haugesund vokser, det er ikke det som er problemet, men flykten til øst, dvs. Raglamyr fortsetter, de aller fleste ser ut til å foretrekker å handle i kjøpesentra fremfor byen, og dermed kveles den sakte. Riktignok BOR flere i Haugesund sentrum enn noensinne, men butikker går det som regel stadig verre med. Det kan være at byen rett og slett går gjennom en fase, der alle dagligdagse butikker flytter ut, med muligheten for mere spesialist butikker, slik som Amundsen Spesial, eller annet "trendy" opplegg. Samtidig ser ikke det ut til å virke heller, både Sjokoletta og Cafe Moody var to eksempler på nettopp dette. =/

Kommunen gjør nærmest ikke en dritt, de satser stadig på Raglamyr, som om det liksom er nøkkelen til alt.
Og ja, det er trist å måtte si dette, men den bildeserien, dekker ikke engang 1/3 av alle de tomme lokalene rundt omkring sentrum. Det hele begynner å ligne på Detroit eller noe sjukt om det.

^^ Er det folk som går rundt i byen da, eller er Haugesund fullstendig død med tanke på gateliv?

Heldigvis, har det ikke helt kommet til DET stadiet enda. Ikke det at det videre er sagt ikke kommer til å ende opp sånn.

Sentrum kan være svært så livligt, spesiellt på varme, solrike dager, men dette er tross alt vestlandet. Det er jo for det meste regn, drittvær, og annet faenskap her, og dermed kan gatene bli svært så tomme for folkeliv, men det sier seg jo selv, Haraldsgaten er ikke direkte trivelig når det er kaldt og vått, og det er få ting der som kan motvirke effekten av en eneste stor vindtunnel. Er det rart at folk naturligt vil trekke seg til Amanda, Oasen, og Raglamyr/Norheim generelt?

Men dersom denne utviklingen IKKE snur, og det IKKE kommer nye interesante butikker til å erstatte dem som flyttet til kjøpesentra eller rett og slett ga opp, kan fremtiden til Haugesund sentrum bli nokså dyster.

Det er jo alltids Markedet....

Tydeligvis går det ikke fullt så bra der heller, Session har jo opphørs salg. Session, av alle butikker.

Had to check to the development of Hasseløy Nord, just to see to if there was highrise plans still involved, but this is current progress as of December 2011.

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/7181/hasselynord1.jpg

Previous plan:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/FlotmyrHyhus1small1.jpg

That 8-floorer isn't an obvious replacement, no... :ohno:

I got doubts they'll even allow 8 floors up there. it's smackdab at the start of Haugesund as a town, it would be the same as building highrises at the ruins of the ancient remains of a city.. wait, Oslo did that, damnit, i want my barcode! :V

I like it. Who cares about the highrise? Haugesund needs less suburbs and bigger and more attractive inner city. That should be the priority #1.

And the highrise was on the ugly side anyway.

^^ Hasseløy is almost part of Haugesund inner city (Haugesund's Bjørvika?) and is the site of many new residential project just the last few years. The development there is meant to turn the island into a modern and urban part of the inner city, as the inner city continue to stretch out. If you look at the flyphotos on finn.no or have been there yourself you'll see what goes on there. :)

The highrise was in pre-design stage, and with Snøhetta as architect it could have become great if the developer had money for it! So we should not speak of the looks of the highrise. Also, to mix a tall highrise with offices and hotel in together with the new residential buildings around it wouldn't be a shame, as Haugesund inner city don't need more offices anyway. Killing this highrise will only lead to office-buildings been planned in the further outskirts of the city.

^^ Hasseløy is almost part of Haugesund inner city (Haugesund's Bjørvika?) and is the site of many new residential project just the last few years. The development there is meant to turn the island into a modern and urban part of the inner city, as the inner city continue to stretch out. If you look at the flyphotos on finn.no or have been there yourself you'll see what goes on there. :)

And my point is that new urban hoods like that is what Haugsund needs and it's therefore a good plan with or without highrises.

The highrise was in pre-design stage, and with Snøhetta as architect it could have become great if the developer had money for it! So we should not speak of the looks of the highrise. Also, to mix a tall highrise with offices and hotel in together with the new residential buildings around it wouldn't be a shame, as Haugesund inner city don't need more offices anyway. Killing this highrise will only lead to office-buildings been planned in the further outskirts of the city.
Haugsund still got plenty of other spaces to build on.

Haugsund still got plenty of other spaces to build on.

With exception of Flotmyr, not really, since its all villa areas around the inner city, and those are always the last to be removed. So its either to build residential/office suburbs or replace old harbor/industry near the inner city. Shame...

That's the thing, Haugesund doesn't actually have much space, at all. we have 72 km2 , 64 of them or so actually on land, and the city is growing... uuh... yeah

So, We don't have much space left in the inner city, apart from Flotmyr, which is pandora's box for some reason...

Hasseløy has a lot of potential a lot of empty place, as does Risøy but again it's one of the areas where most of Haugesund's history lies, so you'd probably have some antikvar bitch and moan there, even though that WOULD be a great place for highrises...

But there has been talks of merging Haugesund and Karmøy. And maybe Bokn, if I remember correctly. Any news here?

Not really, most of the talk has been about the city centre.