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Will December 5th, 2002, 10:01 AM The new Commonwealth Law Courts are currently under construction in Adelaide.
The complex is been built at the old Police HQ site on the corner of Angas Street and Victoria Square.
The $76 Million building will rise to a height of 48m and comprise 12 stories.
Work began last year with the demolition of the 11 storey (40m) Police HQ; and currently the government has appointed a builder and work on the structure will begin next month.
The building will be complete in early 2004.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p458e55133936097424347822dfeec703/fcf8819f.jpg
AG December 5th, 2002, 10:03 AM There is already another thread on this.
Will December 5th, 2002, 10:07 AM Originally posted by adelaideglenelg
There is already another thread on this.
AG - I know, but the other threads don't have a picture.
Will December 6th, 2002, 09:19 AM I was passing the site today and I noticed that the builder that has been appointed to build the courts is Hansen Yuncken.
AG December 6th, 2002, 09:21 AM Damn, you should have taken a camera. :) Whenever I pass the billboard located on the site, I always forget to take a picture of the rendering on it.
Have you seen that rendering yet?
Will December 6th, 2002, 09:31 AM Originally posted by adelaideglenelg
Damn, you should have taken a camera. :) Whenever I pass the billboard located on the site, I always forget to take a picture of the rendering on it.
Have you seen that rendering yet?
AG - Yeah I've seen the rendering, which I've got to admit is more attractive than my picture!
I don't have a digital camara, so it seems we have a job for Adam!
AG December 6th, 2002, 09:34 AM Okay, Adam, we have a job for you.
Here is your mission:
Take a photo of the rendering on the billboard at the construction site and take a picture of the construction site from wherever possible.
Hopefully Adam will see this.
AtD December 6th, 2002, 10:42 AM Whenever I end up down that end of the city, I'll take a picture. :)
SUNNI December 7th, 2002, 02:57 AM nice picture.. who designed that building?
pikey December 17th, 2002, 05:04 AM Time to wake this thread up!
I passed the site just over an hour ago and the scaffolding is starting to go up. Half the road is blocked off. Talking to a worker, we can expect to see a crane there early in the new year. Another tidbit, I asked him if Hansen had anything else in the pipeline, he just smiled and said to be patient - things will be popping up very soon. He wouldn't say anything else - prick!
AG December 17th, 2002, 05:07 AM They always do this with projects and developments! They always reveal them at the last minute before they start construction.
I guess that can be a good thing in a way, seeing that the anti-progress people won't notice it until it starts construction.
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Time to wake this thread up!
I passed the site just over an hour ago and the scaffolding is starting to go up. Half the road is blocked off. Talking to a worker, we can expect to see a crane there early in the new year. Another tidbit, I asked him if Hansen had anything else in the pipeline, he just smiled and said to be patient - things will be popping up very soon. He wouldn't say anything else - prick!</td></tr>
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Very good Pikey!
I was reading an article in the Advertiser, about the lack of quality office space in the city.
There was 1 sentence that was very encouraging, where it stated that in 18 months commercial property developers would start to come into the Adelaide market.
Will December 17th, 2002, 12:08 PM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>They always do this with projects and developments! They always reveal them at the last minute before they start construction.
I guess that can be a good thing in a way, seeing that the anti-progress people won't notice it until it starts construction.</td></tr>
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But AG, if the development complies with the council guidelines, the anti-progress people can't do anything about it!
AG December 17th, 2002, 12:12 PM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>They always do this with projects and developments! They always reveal them at the last minute before they start construction.
I guess that can be a good thing in a way, seeing that the anti-progress people won't notice it until it starts construction.</td></tr>
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But AG, if the development complies with the council guidelines, the anti-progress people can't do anything about it!</td></tr>
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Stupid me. Why didn't I think of that earlier? :)
AtD December 18th, 2002, 08:49 AM There Will, you happy?
<a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/18-12-2002/picture%20014_std.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/18-12-2002/picture%20014_thm.jpg" border="0"></a>
:D
Will December 19th, 2002, 07:09 AM Adam - I don't know why you didn't want to take that photo?
As you can see the site is more than just a pile of dirt, in fact you can see that this photo is very historic and deserves to go on SS.com.
AtD December 19th, 2002, 08:08 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Adam - I don't know why you didn't want to take that photo?
As you can see the site is more than just a pile of dirt, in fact you can see that this photo is very historic and deserves to go on SS.com.</td></tr>
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All I had ever seen of the site before yesterday was the fence. From the square, all you see is a fence and a billboard.
Yesterday, I noticed a pathway that leads along the side of the Magistrates Court that ends up higher than the fence, meaning you can see in.
Will December 23rd, 2002, 10:01 AM I found this press release from the government regarding the new Commonwealth Law Courts:
ATTORNEY-GENERALTHE HON. DARYL WILLIAMS AM QC MP MINISTER FOR FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIONSENATOR THE HON. NICK MINCHIN
NEWS RELEASE
15 November 2002 40/2002
South Australian firm to build new Adelaide Law Courts
South Australian construction company, Hansen Yunken Pty Ltd, has been selected to construct the new Commonwealth Law Courts in Adelaide, the Minister for Finance and Administration, Senator Nick Minchin, and Attorney-General, Daryl Williams, announced today.
This $80 million project will house the High Court, Federal Court, Family Court and Federal Magistrates Service in a new building on the old South Australian Police Headquarters site on Victoria Square.
Construction work will begin in early December 2002, generating over 1,000 full-time jobs, and is due to be completed in July 2004.
Hansen Yunken have extensive experience in construction in South Australia, including projects such as the National Wine Centre, the Radisson Playford Hotel, Adelaide Airport and Adelaide Central Plaza. The company was selected through an open tender process.
"Moving all these operations into a central, purpose-built complex will make the courts more efficient and accessible to South Australians," Mr Williams said.
“I am pleased that the best candidate for the job is a South Australian firm. This project is a win for South Australian court users and staff and a win for the South Australian economy,” Senator Minchin concluded.
Will December 23rd, 2002, 10:02 AM I also found this picture, I think it's the only complete colour photo on this forum.
http://www.aconex.com.au/html/logos/clc_adelaide/clc_adelaide_projimage.jpg
AG December 23rd, 2002, 10:19 AM A construction pic! Thanks AdamTheDuck! :D
They have only worked on the foundation so far.
I have another pic from ACC of the green section of the building, but can't seem to find it.
EDIT: The picture has been removed by me to help AdamTheDuck save space.
chrisaus December 23rd, 2002, 10:37 AM if adelaide follows the treand form the rest of the nation
alot of C & B grade buildings will be refurbished and made into a "boutiqe" office developments and badged A grade to fill the demand....
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alot of C & B grade buildings will be refurbished and made into a "boutiqe" office developments and badged A grade to fill the demand....</td></tr>
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Chris - the Commonwealth Law Courts are a totally new office building.
But you are right in saying that, in the mid 90's there were about a dozen empty office buildings.
These buildings were b and c grade office buildings, and if they had stayed like that they probably would have still been empty.
But all these buildings have either been transformed into a grade office buildings, apartment tower, student accomodation and hotels.
pikey January 15th, 2003, 07:46 AM Wakey wakey!!!!
I just went past the site today and the first, albeit, small crane has arrived on the scene! It was quite a buzz of activity there with trucks lined up do deliver equipment!!
Will January 16th, 2003, 12:09 PM Judging from the construction site, construction is well under way, and I feel it is just a few weeks before they erect the tower crane.
Will January 21st, 2003, 04:01 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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It wasn;t a few weeks wait, like I said in my previous post, because they have erected the tower crane on the site.
AG January 21st, 2003, 04:08 AM Hehehe, the crane came a lot quicker than we thought. ;)
AtD January 28th, 2003, 02:33 PM Latest photo:
<a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/index.php?file=2003-01-28/picture004.txt" target="_blank"><img src="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-01-28/picture004_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts under construction, Victoria Square"></a>
:)
Will January 30th, 2003, 09:24 AM You have a great site Adam, you really should start submitting some of your photos to Culwulla to add to SS.com
AtD January 30th, 2003, 09:40 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"><td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Will </i></b> </smallfont> </td><tr><td align=left valign=top>You have a great site Adam, you really should start submitting some of your photos to Culwulla to add to SS.com</td></tr>
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Thanks. :) I already have.
Will March 1st, 2003, 03:19 AM Just a quick report:
The foundations have been laid, and construction has now begun on the basement levels of the building.
The big steel and concrete pillars that will support the structure are also in place.
AG March 2nd, 2003, 08:17 AM I saw the construction today, and it has progressed fairly quickly. As Will has said, the foundations have been laid.
I never noticed this before, but I never realised how long the crane arm is! The arm reaches over to the building on the other side of Angas Street.
pikey March 3rd, 2003, 10:44 PM I have seen it too today. The core box looks like it is in place, but I'm not too well read on building construction!
AtD March 6th, 2003, 11:08 AM Some more photos, taken today by me in the 4-hour gap of nothingness I had between classes.
Because the links lead to my site, you only need to click one and then you can just click the “Next” link, instead of going back and forward or between windows. :) They should all open in a new window anyway.
<a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/index.php?file=2003-03-06/picture002.txt" target="_blank"><img src="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-03-06/picture002_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts - core going up"></a>
<a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/index.php?file=2003-03-06/picture004.txt" target="_blank"><img src="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-03-06/picture004_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts site"></a>
<a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/index.php?file=2003-03-06/picture005.txt" target="_blank"><img src="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-03-06/picture005_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts Billboard"></a>
Up goes the core.
Cul: In the unlikely event you read this while SS.com is up, feel free to add these photos.
AG March 6th, 2003, 12:20 PM It certainly has progressed a lot in the past month! The foundations have been poured very quickly.
pikey March 6th, 2003, 10:50 PM I wonder at what rate the core will rise??? I wonder if it will be quite quick, considering this is a 12 level project?
AtD March 7th, 2003, 12:42 PM I'd just like to point out that these three pictures: <a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2002-12-18/picture014_std.jpg" target="_blank">this</a>, <a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-01-28/picture004_std.jpg" target="_blank">this</a> and <a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-03-06/picture002_std.jpg" target="_blank">this</a> that I posted in this thread are all from the same place. There's a walkway on the side of the Magistrates Court that leads to what I presume is an emergency exit, and from the end of that walkway you can see over the fence that surrounds the site of the new courts.
Will March 8th, 2003, 05:08 AM Adam - great photos, the one with the tram is a classic!
The Law courts are advancing rather fast if you compare them with some other Adelaide constructions.
At the rate they're going I reckon the building will top out at the end of the year.
pikey March 8th, 2003, 07:31 AM Is it just me or does it look like there are 2 cores here???
Muse March 8th, 2003, 09:41 AM Seems like it in Adam's first pic....then the larger one could be another functional part of the design, like a stairwell (only guessing as to what).
The links work so well and the pics very clear Adam.
AtD March 8th, 2003, 10:29 AM That cement truck (base of the arm) was parked out on Angus street, so the left "core box" is about where the front of the building will be. Don't ask me what it is going to be...
Muse: My links work well? Huh? They either work or they don't.
pikey March 11th, 2003, 04:30 AM Just went past just then, and the core has definatley risen!
AG March 11th, 2003, 04:32 AM Hmmmm, it looks like there's now some steel work going on on the core being prepared for the next core pour.
CULWULLA March 18th, 2003, 03:14 PM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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There will 5 cores would you believe?? I found this article in this months Construction Contractor.
It also mentions massive 5.7m (18 1/2ft) high floor to floor heights! That has to be a record in Australia?
I think its for the first 5 floors or so?
The story mentions it will be an imposing landmark on Adelaides skyline!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pde3e702f6a742a72a9dfa8f87e32bf6d/fc7c6aa5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pd463957a1582932921be64f8f102ea10/fc7c6aa4.jpg
chrisaus March 18th, 2003, 03:19 PM does anyone have a map of were it is ?
looks to be in a very undeveloped part of the CBD, might set a precenent to build in that area !!
what was the site used for b4 ?
CULWULLA March 18th, 2003, 03:45 PM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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looks to be in a very undeveloped part of the CBD, might set a precenent to build in that area !!
what was the site used for b4 ?</td></tr>
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If go back and look at this thread (the first post) it says, the site was the former police HQ and located at cnr Angas & King william streets. Its located at southern end of CBD near Victoria square. It will certainly be the tallest in its vicinity! The nearest tallie will be the Optus tower to the south in the pic.
pikey March 18th, 2003, 10:45 PM 5 cores?? That explains why there are so many rectangular frames being put in place. Maybe all the crims will need their own elevators??!!
AtD March 19th, 2003, 06:55 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"><td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by CULWULLA </i></b> </smallfont> </td><tr><td align=left valign=top>If go back and look at this thread (the first post) it says, the site was the former police HQ and located at cnr Angas & King william streets. Its located at southern end of CBD near Victoria square. It will certainly be the tallest in its vicinity! The nearest tallie will be the Optus tower to the south in the pic.</td></tr></table>
Actually Cul, just about all of Adelaide's high-rises would be closer to the law courts than Optus (Which is all the way down on South Terrace, about 500m away). There is at least 5 other high rises on Victoria Square.
I'd say that photo was taken from the top of one of the government buildings on the north eastern corner of the square, looking south. They would also be the closest buildings to the site, about 200m away.
The Law Courts will be the second most southern high rise in the ACC, with Optus being first.
AG March 19th, 2003, 07:58 AM To be precise, Optus Centre is about 750m away from the Commonwealth Law Courts. Optus Centre stands all the way out by itself.
Development around that area of the south is strange. The area that the building is being constructed in on Victoria Square is highly developed, but next door to the site and areas directly south are fairly undeveloped.
It seems that this building will be taller than we first expected.
Adam, it will be the third most southern high-rise in Adelaide cbd, you missed out the 12 level Holiday Inn on South Terrace.
AG March 19th, 2003, 08:03 AM If the first 5 floors are 5.7m high, and the rest are 4m high, then the building would be over 55m high, and consider the it's height to the the size of it's width!
Will March 19th, 2003, 08:24 AM AG - the building will be 48m.
I didn't invent that height, I found it on a document from the government, so it's safe to say it is probably right.
AtD March 19th, 2003, 09:05 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"><td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by adelaideglenelg </i></b> </smallfont> </td><tr><td align=left valign=top>Adam, it will be the third most southern high-rise in Adelaide cbd, you missed out the 12 level Holiday Inn on South Terrace.</td></tr></table>
Don't get smart with me, kid!
:moods:
pikey March 31st, 2003, 06:22 AM There are 3 cores on site now and they are all rising!!! You can make out the provisions for the other 2 towards the back
AtD April 6th, 2003, 11:35 AM <a href="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/index.php?file=2003-04-02/picture002.txt"><img src="http://216.194.93.157/~atrevorrow/2003-04-02/picture002_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="The cores rise at the Commonwealth Law Courts site"></a>
Taken on the 2nd and uploaded today - they're building a wall right across the west side of the site so I won't be able to take photos from the fire escape thinggie of the Magistrates court any more :(
AG April 6th, 2003, 11:43 AM Adam, you don't need to anymore, because you can now clearly see the construction going on from Angas Street.
AtD April 6th, 2003, 11:52 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"><td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by adelaideglenelg </i></b> </smallfont> </td><tr><td align=left valign=top>Adam, you don't need to anymore, because you can now clearly see the construction going on from Angas Street.</td></tr></table>
But I want to take pics from the same point for better comparisons!
pikey April 7th, 2003, 01:35 AM Top work Adam!
pikey May 8th, 2003, 01:16 AM Man are they pumping the juice into these cours something fierce. Yesterday there was 3 concrete trucks lines up ready do "deposit their load" for the courts! The tallest core now, just by guestimation would be at around level 5 now, i'd say
AtD May 20th, 2003, 03:25 PM Crappy construction photo's that you've probably already seen in the other forum:
<a href="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture041.shtml"><img src="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture041_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts construction"></a> <a href="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture042.shtml"><img src="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture042_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts construction"></a> <a href="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture043.shtml"><img src="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture043_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts construction"></a> <a href="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture044.shtml"><img src="http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-05-20/picture044_thm.jpg" width="120" border="0" alt="Commonwealth Law Courts construction crane"></a>
But the real reason I posted this is... WTF are those angular columns in the 3rd photo? Some sort of grand, secret entrance for the crim's to come in?
pikey July 1st, 2003, 06:22 AM Bump.
Any news on what's going on here??? I haven't been past the site in ages. Just wondering if there was anything worth while reporting here??
AG July 1st, 2003, 10:14 AM I passed the site some days ago and the front entrance already looks nearly done. The floorplates are about a couple of floors up already, and the cores are past level 4 or 5.
AG July 14th, 2003, 06:46 AM Cores (I think there are four of them) are at level 6, and the third floorplate is u/c.
Will July 14th, 2003, 11:59 AM The cores have definately risen quite a bit over the last few weeks.
You can actually see the cores from West Terrace now.
AG July 14th, 2003, 12:19 PM Yeh, but everything sticks up and can be seen from West Terrace. :D
jacobsian July 14th, 2003, 12:34 PM I can see teeny sluts lining up on west terrace.
pikey July 28th, 2003, 01:49 AM From Saturday, I was busy!!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p64425556bd59d6a8b8c3beed4a7991b0/fb8e8ec1.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid71/p8997ce0a452cea2dbb21cef4b4a3cbac/fb8e8ebe.jpg
Coming along very nicely!!
AtD July 28th, 2003, 08:34 AM I had no idea things had progressed so far - then again I haven't been down that side of town in ages.
AG July 28th, 2003, 10:29 AM Wow, it certainly has progressed since last week. The scaffolding on the Victoria Square corner is very recent. The floor heights look very high!
AtD August 11th, 2003, 12:30 PM A bit of progress
http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/lawcourts.jpg
pikey August 23rd, 2003, 07:28 AM Looky looky, more progress!!!
Just taken today, nice weather, not!!
Core number 5 has appeared out of no where!!!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p0b242d657e87d98078d23a53dcd39091/fb4f6824.jpg
The thing is you can see straight through under the core. It's like the core has started on level one!! If you get what I mean!!
More pics, she's looking faarken big!!!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/pcb195f0f36c65609681fe2e371ea3bf9/fb4f6828.jpg
From the Carrington Street side
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p998d923d793f63dab07c2ee195b6442f/fb4f682d.jpg
Cul, whack em on SS.com. It needs updating badly!!!
AG August 23rd, 2003, 11:33 AM Commonwealth Law Courts is huge by the area it takes up for a building of it's height! A lot larger than I originally thought was going to be a long flat sided building.
BTW, that core on the right is going to be where the round tubed section of the building will be.
pikey August 27th, 2003, 01:45 AM The cores can be seen from old Belair Road, faarken miles away!!
***SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF THAT THIS SITE GOT HACKED AGAIN***
Will August 29th, 2003, 11:44 AM Originally posted by pikey
The cores can be seen from old Belair Road, faarken miles away!!
***SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF THAT THIS SITE GOT HACKED AGAIN***
When did it get hacked?
This is news to me.
AG August 29th, 2003, 12:46 PM The forum was hacked several days ago. The most affected forums seem to be the Oz and UK forums, where the largest threads were deleted. They include Eureka, World Tower and Swiss RE. Thankfully, gothicform spotted this and quickly shut down the forums.
pikey September 29th, 2003, 07:45 AM If you get a chance wander down to this site and have a look. It's getting huuuuge. I don't think the cores can get much higher than what they are.
jacobsian October 2nd, 2003, 11:54 AM Watch out boys, i'm armed!
http://www.netspace.net.au/~smicik/lawcourts031003c
http://www.netspace.net.au/~smicik/lawcourts031003a.JPG
http://www.netspace.net.au/~smicik/lawcourts031003b.JPG
AtD October 2nd, 2003, 12:03 PM Hey quite a lot has happened since I've been down there. How high is the fifth core box?
I should go down there next time I have the chance.
pikey October 2nd, 2003, 01:42 PM Have a look at the 3 photos I posted back in August and then check out yobsters. Talk about progress!!! Maybe those "workers" on Eureka should come over here and see how quick we can do things in good 'ol SA!!
And judging by the Rio rods that are poking out of the top of the Core boxes, there's more rising to go!!
(Surely this must be nearly the last core rise?????)
jacobsian October 2nd, 2003, 01:48 PM Originally posted by pikey
Have a look at the 3 photos I posted back in August and then check out yobsters. Talk about progress!!! Maybe those "workers" on Eureka should come over here and see how quick we can do things in good 'ol SA!!
And judging by the Rio rods that are poking out of the top of the Core boxes, there's more rising to go!!
(Surely this must be nearly the last core rise?????)
The cores still have another 6 floors to rise I think. The reason it looks so tall for the number of levels is that the first 5 or 6 levels are 5m floor heights from memory.... they're huge biatches. Standing across the street from it, you can see just how high the damn floors are. :D
pikey October 2nd, 2003, 01:56 PM 6 more to go???? Fuck are you serious???? I seriously underestimated this things height then, goddam bring it on!!!!
Just counted them - your right!!! That crane's gonna have to grow up a bit then!
Will October 4th, 2003, 06:24 AM The Law Courts are rising dramatically.
The floors of the building are huge! I don't know how the building will fit 6 more floors in, and remain at 48m?
pikey November 4th, 2003, 11:17 PM Me thinks it'll go over 48m. They have been going hard with the cores, they are racing away from the floor plates. I think that the eastern core may have topped out, but I cannot get a clear count of the floors. I see this thing every day on my way to the gym, so if anything happens, I'll let you bitches know!!
jacobsian November 5th, 2003, 10:53 AM I had a close look at the render on the billboard, i'm pretty sure this is only 10 levels above ground.
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lawcourts5november.JPG
The far left core is up to number 9, probably one more left to go, the other 2 main cores are at 8.
5*5.7m for the first 5 levels - 28.5m, 5*4m for the next 5 -- 20m = 48.5m tall. Still, those bottom 5 levels are absolutely hugo, so it's got a bit of height to it despite being only 10 levels...
pikey November 5th, 2003, 10:55 PM I thought I read in an official release that it was 12 levels at it's highest and then the western section down to 11?????
AG November 7th, 2003, 11:31 AM Maybe there's a mezzanine floor or two?
Will November 9th, 2003, 02:29 AM Last year I stumbled upon a PDF Document published by the government.
The information contained in that document states that the building will have 11 floors of office/court related office space, plus 1 floor for mechanical equipment at the roof.
The total height will be 48m.
jacobsian November 9th, 2003, 03:37 AM http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/pwc/lawcourts/Chapter%202.pdf
this has some great details about the buiding. I was sort of right - there are only 10 levels above ground, the 11th level is plant. There's also a basement level with a.... medical center.... k :D In total it has 12,208sqm of space.
AG November 9th, 2003, 03:53 AM I don't understand why there are levels 2A and 3A when they could just make them floors 3 and 5. :? The layout is confusing.
jacobsian November 9th, 2003, 03:57 AM Originally posted by AG
I don't understand why there are levels 2A and 3A when they could just make them floors 3 and 5. :? The layout is confusing.
It makes a lot of sense when you look at what is on each floor.
2A - mediation rooms, court officer rooms, family court councillor accommodation - all these need to be right next to the courts hosted on the floor. But, can you imagine how fucking bizarre it would be to house those facilities in rooms with floors 6m high? This building needs split levels something chronic!
pikey November 12th, 2003, 05:31 AM There's definatley more core rising to happen!!! The tallest core has hod more Rio rod placed and the pumping arm was dumping into it today. I also think there may have been a crane jump too, it's more noticable from Greenhill road.
pikey November 21st, 2003, 01:25 AM The taller kinda middle core has risen again, Me thinks it must nearly have topped out maybe????
AG November 23rd, 2003, 07:19 AM If the cores have topped out, then they probably would've dismantled the boxes on them already.
pikey January 18th, 2004, 10:50 PM GUESS WHO'S BACK, BACK AGAIN!!!!
Finally, after an awesome break, NYE in Sydney (Hell of a time and place to get Gastro!) I am back!!
Just letting you folks know that one of the core boxes has been dismantled now, the far left hand side one when viewed from Vic Square. The core next to it has had more Rio rod installed so another core rise is iminent. I'm swearing though this thing is taller than we first anticipated......
Will January 19th, 2004, 06:23 AM Originally posted by pikey
GUESS WHO'S BACK, BACK AGAIN!!!!
Finally, after an awesome break, NYE in Sydney (Hell of a time and place to get Gastro!) I am back!!
Just letting you folks know that one of the core boxes has been dismantled now, the far left hand side one when viewed from Vic Square. The core next to it has had more Rio rod installed so another core rise is iminent. I'm swearing though this thing is taller than we first anticipated......
I got the same feeling when I was looking at the building from Vic Square, it does appear taller than 48m.
But when you view the building from a distance (the airport) it does still appear to be heading to the planned 48m, as it looks considerably smaller than the other buildings in Victoria Square.
pikey January 31st, 2004, 06:32 AM Well the tallest core has risen, and just when I thought it had topped out, they they were putting MORE rio rod into the core box!! It's still going up!!! I haven't done a proper floor count but fark me it's gotta be more than 12???
pikey February 11th, 2004, 02:13 AM Tallest core box has gone bye bye
pikey February 26th, 2004, 10:41 PM 2 more core boxes have gone too now. Just the most western box remains. Some of the facade has gone on too and it looks rather noooice!
Adelarch February 27th, 2004, 02:43 AM Does it look anything like this?
http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Commonwealth.jpg
Hope so!
AG February 27th, 2004, 07:59 AM Originally posted by Adelarch
Does it look anything like this?
http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Commonwealth.jpg
Hope so!
That sure is the building currently under construction... :)
RedLadar February 27th, 2004, 08:20 AM I guess you're all aware that these 'core' boxes are actually the elevator shafts. Construction has now ceased on the these and the jump form surrounding them is being taken down. The facade will now start to be added so the building will start to take shape!
pikey February 29th, 2004, 10:53 PM All core boxes have done the toodle-oooh act and farked off. Now for the floorplates to catch up.... :guns1:
pikey March 3rd, 2004, 08:58 AM WE HAVE GLASS NOW BITCHES!!!
The first, large multicoloured section of glass has been erected, and from my super quick drive past look - it looks faaarken orrroight!!!
I'll try and get a pic soon - unless someone else can?
jacobsian March 9th, 2004, 01:09 PM http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/law9march1.jpg
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/law9march2.jpg
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/law9march3.jpg
One day I will conquer my arch nemesis: light. I will then be jedi.
AG March 10th, 2004, 08:24 AM Heh, how much does the glass remind you of some of 70s stuff? Looks awesome though. :D
jacobsian May 22nd, 2004, 06:35 PM http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lc1.jpg
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lc2.jpg
Adelarch May 23rd, 2004, 03:39 AM hey hey, that's looking good. :) That glass is starting to look more like the render than I thought possible. Good job
AtD May 24th, 2004, 01:06 PM Wow I should go down to Vic Sq more often!
AtD May 25th, 2004, 01:09 PM http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-05-25/picture%20009_std.jpg
http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-05-25/picture%20012_std.jpg
http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-05-25/picture%20018_std.jpg
http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-05-25/picture%20054_std.jpg
Adder-Laid May 25th, 2004, 05:23 PM pot of gold, huh? ;)
Aussie Steve May 28th, 2004, 05:13 AM This is going to be Adelaide's best building. The glass facade is amazing.
Adelarch May 28th, 2004, 05:36 AM This is going to be Adelaide's best building. The glass facade is amazing.
I agree :D This is a very unique design which may become something of an icon for Adelaide. Keep the fine pics coming dudes.
Will May 28th, 2004, 11:47 AM The Commonwealth Law Courts are coming along really nicely!
I agree with the opinion that this will be Adelaide's best designed building, a great addition to the city.
:pepper:
AG June 2nd, 2004, 09:52 AM Looking like an absolute gem of a building! The glass looks so different from how I thought it would look.
AtD June 2nd, 2004, 02:01 PM http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/Picture%20003.jpg
http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/Picture%20004.jpg
pikey June 30th, 2004, 12:32 AM http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/58377706.jpg
AtD July 22nd, 2004, 02:50 PM http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2004-07-22/picture%20037_std.jpg
Adelarch August 8th, 2004, 11:05 AM loving that facade :D copper cladding to go on lateral arc structure soon
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p97a73b2a9d36cfab3f25d4613a5d3898/f784c134.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p6516924daeb578c13b35c694e6678eff/f784c12c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p61a53759245893fdc9fee8eeee4436bd/f784c124.jpg
AtD August 8th, 2004, 12:07 PM Wow, nice shots.
I've got to get myself down to Vic Square again soon.
What digicam do you have?
jacobsian August 8th, 2004, 12:18 PM Adelarch, sensational pics, thanks a lot.
Holy crap that glass is looking good!!!
Skeletor August 10th, 2004, 07:53 AM Yer, looking really good now! That glass is insane! Something different and good to see.
I pass through the CBD every day during the week on the way to Flinder's and since 2002 when I started, the changes that are occuring are awesome. Law Courts is gunna look sweet when its all done.
Great pics all too :)
Adelarch August 10th, 2004, 12:55 PM Wow, nice shots.
I've got to get myself down to Vic Square again soon.
What digicam do you have?
It's a Canon Ixus V3 - cute little bugger, very good for travelling
TooFar August 10th, 2004, 08:14 PM That reminds me of the Concordia Uni extension currently UC in Montreal.
Not as much colour but quite similar.
http://buildings.concordia.ca/images/quartier/construction2.jpg
Adder-Laid August 11th, 2004, 01:23 PM Far out! That is quite a resemblance!!
AtD September 20th, 2004, 03:50 PM http://www.photoadelaide.com/gal/2004/09/26_std.jpg
When's the green bit going on?
Will September 24th, 2004, 11:03 AM I saw the building today, and I am dissapointed as they've already started to place the same pale green/olive colour glass used for the bottom floors for the top section.
I personally don't like the 60's wallpaper style facade, reflective blue glass would have looked much more elegant and better.
Adelarch September 24th, 2004, 03:41 PM Personally I think the facade is looking fantastic. Want reflective blue glass check out the new Minter Ellison building across King Willy Way :)
AdelaideSkytraveller September 27th, 2004, 03:10 AM I like Will think the facade looks crap. It makes it look like a shanty town
or residential appartments all higgldy piggldy built one on top of the other.
Maybe thats the image the Judges want to portray to those receiving sentences. Youll be living in a shanty town "JAIL" soon... hahahahaha.
At least it is glass, in 20 years once they are tired of it they might replace
it with some decent looking glass.
pikey September 27th, 2004, 06:11 AM Well if you thought that the top half of the building was going to be clad differently, as per the renders, you'll be dissapointed. The first section of glass has been laid, and it is the same mottled brown colour as underneath.
Adelarch September 27th, 2004, 06:58 AM Well if you thought that the top half of the building was going to be clad differently, as per the renders, you'll be dissapointed. The first section of glass has been laid, and it is the same mottled brown colour as underneath.
:(
what a shame, I was looking forward to seeing the green glass. The mottled colour is great, but extending it over the whole facade might be a wee bit too much
CULWULLA October 13th, 2004, 09:15 AM how olds this pic?
http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Commonwealth1.jpg?PHPSESSID=569c501d1064e16c36241954802115ae
jacobsian October 13th, 2004, 09:53 AM Just about as old as you, Cul :)
pikey October 13th, 2004, 11:42 AM Well if you thought that the top half of the building was going to be clad differently, as per the renders, you'll be dissapointed. The first section of glass has been laid, and it is the same mottled brown colour as underneath.
Well looks like a told a bit of a fib. More glass has gone on in the uppersection. There's still browns, but greens and the odd bit of blue has made an appearance. Still dissapointing though. But 'eh, care factor.
Adder-Laid October 13th, 2004, 12:32 PM 10 bucks says it looks impressive once complete ;)
b1_ October 20th, 2004, 02:37 PM Nice to see the building going up. Thx yob for the pics. Handy for me as I'm no longer living in Adelaide so can't see how it's progressing.
I did all the renders for this building. You can find them on my site (http://shawns3d.webhop.net) . I would ask you not to copy them elsewhere please. Just link to my site if you wish to show them to anyone.
FYI.
The green thing is called The Opal. It is, or will be, clad in pre-weathered copper.
The colours of the building are inspired by the earthy colours of the outback. This will be the colour scheme on the interior also.
You might have noticed the pattern of mullions and transoms on the front facade is similar to the award winning Melbourne Commonwealth Law Courts done by the same company.
The Opals shape has some inspiration from a building in Europe done in all pre-weathered copper wrapped around a curved form that juts over a harbour. For the life of me I can't find it and can't remember the name. Think it was in the netherlands, but not sure. (If anyone knows it please post the details).
I'm reserving my judgement of the building until it's finished. I do have my doubts but then again I'm no expert. I think it will add some much needed colour to the drab looking victoria square; I can imagine those greens matching Victoria Square's trees in spring quite nicely. Then there's the Opal, joining the likes of the Convention Centre and Wine Centre to add some much needed curvature to an otherwise square cityscape. Look at it this way, it can't be any worse than that monstrosity next door.
Adelarch October 20th, 2004, 02:57 PM Thanks b1! top renders :) I'm hoping the building won't be too different to these in the end.
you didn't work on any renders for the tram barn site by any chance?
for the lazy among us:
http://www.users.on.net/~walkert/shawns3d/images/lc/lc_01.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~walkert/shawns3d/images/lc/lc_02.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~walkert/shawns3d/images/lc/lc_02_night.jpg
Pants October 21st, 2004, 02:41 AM Brilliant stuff b1. I'm disappointed in their decision to axe the different blue/green glass for the top half.
If "the opal" remains the colour in your renders, it won't have a reference point to the rest of the building.
Excellent render of Bent St too btw. That building's come out looking great.
jacobsian November 22nd, 2004, 09:57 AM http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lawcourts22nov.jpg
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lawcourts22nov2.jpg
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lawcourts22nov3.jpg
jacobsian December 15th, 2004, 04:51 AM http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/lawcourts15december2004.jpg
jacobsian December 15th, 2004, 04:52 AM BTW I think I hate this building?
Adelarch December 15th, 2004, 08:07 AM yeah so far its a little bit 'lacking' when compared to the renders - nonetheless I reckon that when they attach those shutters to the facade it will improve it quite a bit - still got my hopes up for a classy building
Again, awesome pics thanks mate :)
pikey December 15th, 2004, 11:13 PM At least someone's had the balls to develop something a little more striking. Still not 100% on my feelings on this one though
Al December 17th, 2004, 08:15 AM Hopefully they will light it up nicely at night. It's hard to judge it until it's complete but it looks OK so far.
jacobsian December 17th, 2004, 04:27 PM I feel the top 5 levels really had to have a different colour to the bottom half. IT just looks so boring the way it is. But I agree this thing could look amazing if it was lit up well at night.
Hercules Morse December 21st, 2004, 03:17 PM Great Photos. BTW, 141 replies on this objective forum and few care it will be a year late, regardless of whether you like it or not.
Why on earth would you attempt to build this building with only one crane? and it's still there?? :ohno:
Will December 24th, 2004, 04:21 AM Now that the glass is being placed on the upper floors, the building is looking marginally better in my opinion. Hopefully once complete it will look good, but I;m still dissapointed that the clours actually used are different from the ones in the render.
Al January 8th, 2005, 11:47 AM I was driving towards the city on Sir Donald Bradman, and you can see the crane for miles! I reckon it's the only city building visible from near the airport on that road too. Should look good with a few more tallies around it.
AG January 8th, 2005, 01:57 PM I was driving towards the city on Sir Donald Bradman, and you can see the crane for miles! I reckon it's the only city building visible from near the airport on that road too. Should look good with a few more tallies around it.
Good thing there seems to be plans for buildings on blocks surrounding it, one possibly another 18 level building (?) on the Tram Barn site.
Brando January 8th, 2005, 04:30 PM I was driving around the city tonight and i went out of my way to make sure i drove past the new building and i am amazed at the bulk of that building. Now with the new law courts and possibly the new Minster Ellison building, maybe even the proposed 18 storey building, we might see more development occur . The whole road around the law courts was so dark at night with the school and the theatre. Really hope something is done there soon..
Al January 9th, 2005, 11:50 AM It's good to see some development south of Vic square too. Always thought Adelaide was only half a city.
Adelarch January 25th, 2005, 05:20 AM This building is looking pretty respectable IMO. Incredibly slow going though, apparently all the plasterers in town have been taken by the airport development. I'll post a couple of pics tonight
Howie January 25th, 2005, 11:18 AM by the end of the year, the square's gonna look pretty different with the new tiser building complete and this.. can't wait. :thumbsup:
jacobsian January 25th, 2005, 12:32 PM There's also the 18 storey tram barn redevelopment that we know sfa about.
Brando January 25th, 2005, 12:59 PM There's also the 18 storey tram barn redevelopment that we know sfa about.
Sorry i know we are getting off topic, but has anyone heard anything more on this, or know if a proposal had even been put forward???
Adelarch January 25th, 2005, 01:15 PM last thing I heard Hassell were preparing plans for the Catholic Endowment Society which owns the site. Hopefully we'll hear something early in the new year
A few pics of the law courts...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid155/p095ae8b7caa4e1891e5332ff2050d4de/f55796be.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid155/p3da86f9afd9387b672c648f1398620d2/f55796ca.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid155/pf9af64f47fd813bf275232c1bfbbe7b1/f55796cb.jpg
...loving that funky copper cladding :)
Brando January 25th, 2005, 02:15 PM Thanks Adelarch, lets hope we here someting sooner...
Great pics too..
Muse February 6th, 2005, 10:32 AM What a very cool building.
Oz needs more of these interestingly desinged buildings.
Yes, funky is the word.
pikey February 6th, 2005, 11:06 PM Crane's Gone!
Al February 9th, 2005, 01:55 PM This building's kinda grown on me. I reckon it looks alright actually now that it's nearing completion. At least it's got lots of glass - a musthave for coolness. :)
Will February 19th, 2005, 01:20 PM This building's kinda grown on me. I reckon it looks alright actually now that it's nearing completion. At least it's got lots of glass - a musthave for coolness. :)
I share this sentiment.
Will February 19th, 2005, 01:22 PM There's also the 18 storey tram barn redevelopment that we know sfa about.
I was reading a websie a few days ago which stated that the Supreme Court had pre-commited 10 000 sqm in the new 'tram barn' building. Whilst there was no info on its height, I believe it's safe to say it will be taller than 12 levels.
Adelarch February 19th, 2005, 02:45 PM I was reading a websie a few days ago which stated that the Supreme Court had pre-commited 10 000 sqm in the new 'tram barn' building. Whilst there was no info on its height, I believe it's safe to say it will be taller than 12 levels.
It should be around 18 levels :)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=124510
bridgetown February 19th, 2005, 03:10 PM Wow the Law Courts building looks great. What's its official height? It appears really tall in those pics, though that'd be due to there being no other tall buildings right next to it.
Hercules Morse February 19th, 2005, 03:10 PM This building's kinda grown on me. I reckon it looks alright actually now that it's nearing completion. At least it's got lots of glass - a musthave for coolness. :)
Sorry guys, I know each to their own, but really!? Photographs look much better than in real life. :doh:
We took a poll at my work and you could hardly find anyone who liked the look of it. The design is great, but the curtain walling just looks like faded wall panelling has been left leaning up inside.
It would be boring if we all liked the same thing, anyway.:cheers1:
Will February 28th, 2005, 08:23 AM Wow the Law Courts building looks great. What's its official height? It appears really tall in those pics, though that'd be due to there being no other tall buildings right next to it.
It's 48m tall.
CULWULLA March 9th, 2005, 11:49 PM accurate info can be found here on all heights of skyscrapers in and around Adelaide>
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=100507&bt=2&ht=2&sro=1
i had alot of help assembleing the data from you guys!
other cities>>
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=3525782#post3525782
pikey March 10th, 2005, 11:29 PM Speaking of the 48m tall jobbie, here 'tis. The top section looks just about done.
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/88584712.jpg
Adelarch March 11th, 2005, 04:48 PM don't know about everyone else but its starting to look purty good to me!
thanks for the pic mate :)
Pants March 11th, 2005, 10:51 PM Just really noticed the Southern facade (facing Carrington St) for the first time yesterday. It's awesome. Much better mix of finishes than the Northern, which is a bit of a shame, as it doesn't have much exposure at all.
Hercules Morse March 12th, 2005, 06:08 AM Is that an old photo, Pikey? That building was built in the 70's...
alderson March 12th, 2005, 09:28 AM I drove past today and the colour of the glass in the top section is really finishing this interesting building off. I hated the facade early in its construction but as its developing its looking more and more interesting.
Pants March 12th, 2005, 11:00 PM I'm really warming to this one.
As a Commonwealth funded, big budget building, I think they could have done better, especially since Hassell also designed the incredible Law Courts building in Melbourne, but still...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts6.jpg
Adelarch March 12th, 2005, 11:59 PM really nice shots thanks mate :)
Many people seem iffish about the colour (which personally I quite like), but in terms of the level of sophistication in the finishes there's no way you can call this a 70's building. I think once the nothern facade is visually broken up a tad more by adding the shade structures the whole thing should start to be a little more palatable to wider tastes...
BTW that shot of the side of the building is a nice angle - very funky and contemporary looking
Adder-Laid March 13th, 2005, 05:03 PM I like it a lot... I also think it looks better from the South, which is the angle in the 4th shot
Will March 17th, 2005, 08:54 AM I would personally like to withdraw any negative comments I made about the appearance of the building.
From now on I will only comment one once a building is completed.
Hercules Morse March 17th, 2005, 06:47 PM I would personally like to withdraw any negative comments I made about the appearance of the building.
From now on I will only comment one once a building is completed.
that's so touching:cry:.........it's still awful..........
Al March 18th, 2005, 01:52 AM I've seen a building in Hong Kong which had lots of rgb lights attached to the windows and was lit up like a big display at night - this building reminds me of that. Wouldn't be cool if they did that with this? It'll be widescreen too! :)
Adder-Laid March 18th, 2005, 11:55 AM Not sure about everyone else, but I still love the facade...
DrDan March 20th, 2005, 10:59 AM yeah - I definitely think adelaide needs new and innovative-looking buildings and this is definitely one of them. It would have looked better if they stuck to the original plan and had blue glass at the top and green at the bottom, but yeah, I like it.
Is that cone-like thing going to stay green?
Pants March 21st, 2005, 06:17 AM Is that cone-like thing going to stay green?
It is mate.
kota16 March 21st, 2005, 01:57 PM I find the colours really kool!.
AtD March 23rd, 2005, 04:18 PM Not too sure about some of the colours. Worried it might date real fast.
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20038_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20039_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20040_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20041_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20042_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20043_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20044_std.jpg
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20045_std.jpg
Pants March 23rd, 2005, 04:30 PM Awesome pics mate. Thanks.
pikey March 24th, 2005, 02:48 AM It is mate.
from chats I've had with my brother inlaw, who's an industrial designer, the current green copper facade will go a dramatic change over time. When it weathers, it will go a mottled bronze/green colour, aged, in other words. I've seen what aged copper looks like, and it's spectacular. It will really fit in well with the colour schemes used on the glass. Once cleaned up once construction is finished, in a couple years once the copper has changed this thing will look schmick as!
Pants March 24th, 2005, 04:04 AM from chats I've had with my brother inlaw, who's an industrial designer, the current green copper facade will go a dramatic change over time. When it weathers, it will go a mottled bronze/green colour, aged, in other words. I've seen what aged copper looks like, and it's spectacular. It will really fit in well with the colour schemes used on the glass. Once cleaned up once construction is finished, in a couple years once the copper has changed this thing will look schmick as!
Thanks for the info mate.
I had a brain freeze at the time and thought the question was whether there were just green wraps on the cladding. :ohno:
I walk past this building pretty much daily. It'll be interesting to see how the copper weathers.
Pants April 6th, 2005, 03:02 AM I'm liking the glass above the copper cladding:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/LawCourts3-6-4-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/LawCourts5-6-4-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/LawCourts4-6-4-05.jpg
Howie April 6th, 2005, 06:45 AM looking quite substantial there! thanks for the pics again pants.
Adelarch April 6th, 2005, 01:45 PM that glass does look nice
hard to tell with the shadow but looks like a clear/silver colour in the renders
also, am I imagining it or have they attached just one of the shade structures at the top left of the front facade
thanks for posting the shots mate
Pants April 7th, 2005, 12:39 AM No problem mate.
The glass is a really light minty green colour. Goes well with the copper.
They've had that one shutter up there for a while now. I'm looking forward to seeing how the rest of them change the facade.
AtD April 11th, 2005, 12:25 PM Almost done
http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/11-Apr-05/picture%20007_std.jpg
http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/11-Apr-05/picture%20010_std.jpg
jacobsian April 11th, 2005, 03:45 PM I must have an Architectural Bipolar Disorder because I think this building looks fucking sweet all over now :D
Al April 11th, 2005, 04:47 PM Yep - definitely one of the more interesting buildings in Adelaide.
Pants April 12th, 2005, 04:36 AM Yeah, it's really growing on me too.
The only criticism that I have is that the Northern facade needs to be broken up more. It's a bit hard on the eyes ATM.
The shutters should make a difference, but I'm not sure how big a difference it'll be.
AG April 12th, 2005, 09:58 AM This building is more than 1 year behind schedule. When you compare AtD's most recent photo to his photos from May 2004, this is the difference:
http://www.photoadelaide.com/gal/2004/05/25/2_std.jpg
http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/11-Apr-05/picture%20010_std.jpg
Pants April 12th, 2005, 11:18 AM From today:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Courts12-4-05007.jpg
The third pic makes me think that there'll be a bit more than shutters sticking out of the front of this building. It looks like there's both brackets in place for the shutters and blank spots in the cladding where whatever this thing is are to go.
pikey April 12th, 2005, 11:29 AM It's a wierd looking mofo, but, me like it very much now!
jacobsian April 12th, 2005, 11:31 AM I wanna play with my lego so bad now.
AtD April 12th, 2005, 01:07 PM I reckon it looks better from the south actually.
Aussie Steve April 14th, 2005, 03:13 AM What a FANTASTIC building for Adelaide. I remember this being built the last time I was there. Its great to see it almost complete.
kota16 April 14th, 2005, 08:33 AM A person on channel 2 said the green part looks like Ned Kelly face mask at Glenrowan shootout, and that it is a symbol of how things can go terribly wrong.
i like shovels April 16th, 2005, 11:51 AM pants, the glass is not a light minty colour. if you had any idea about the principal of curtain wall facade construction, you would have not made that statement.
the glass is clear to the whole extent of the building - high performance laminated over the majority of the building with a low-E coating to the internal face. double glazed units are utilised to the upper levels of the building. a metal spandrel panel is in place behind the glass to created the coloured appearance of the building . there is an air gap of approximately 100mm between the glass and the metal panel which assists with both the thermal and acoustic performance of the facade system.
Pants April 16th, 2005, 12:19 PM pants, the glass is not a light minty colour. if you had any idea about the principal of curtain wall facade construction, you would have not made that statement.
the glass is clear to the whole extent of the building - high performance laminated over the majority of the building with a low-E coating to the internal face. double glazed units are utilised to the upper levels of the building. a metal spandrel panel is in place behind the glass to created the coloured appearance of the building . there is an air gap of approximately 100mm between the glass and the metal panel which assists with both the thermal and acoustic performance of the facade system.
LMFAO.
I'm just an enthusiast mate. Have never held myself out as an expert on curtain wall facade construction or construction in general, but thanks for the lesson anyway. In all seriousness, it's good to have apparent experts on here.
Still looks a light minty colour above the copper though, which is what I was referring to.
i like shovels April 16th, 2005, 12:46 PM Enthusiasts are fine mate, common knowledge is better!
Pants April 16th, 2005, 12:52 PM the glass is clear to the whole extent of the building - high performance laminated over the majority of the building with a low-E coating to the internal face. double glazed units are utilised to the upper levels of the building. a metal spandrel panel is in place behind the glass to created the coloured appearance of the building . there is an air gap of approximately 100mm between the glass and the metal panel which assists with both the thermal and acoustic performance of the facade system.
THAT's common knowledge? Fuck me, I must be ignorant.
So tell us mate, what part of the industry are you in?
i like shovels April 16th, 2005, 12:57 PM It doesnt matter what industry im in. Get closer,have a look at whats going on. ;)
Pants April 16th, 2005, 01:07 PM I assumed you were in the construction industry mate, I asked what part of it you were in.
It's cool if you don't want to say, but I just thought it would be interesting to get the perspective of someone right in the game.
As for me getting closer, I'm quite happy continuing in life without knowing about low-E coatings and metal spandrel panels. ;)
i like shovels April 16th, 2005, 01:11 PM Im in the industry yes, glad you like the building:)
Pants April 16th, 2005, 01:15 PM If you have something to do with this building mate (which I am starting to really like), would you say that the northern facade is going to be noticably broken up by the shutters and whatever else they're putting on it?
i like shovels April 16th, 2005, 01:18 PM there are 166 sunshades and 42 shadow boxes to be installed,you decide ;)
Pants April 16th, 2005, 01:33 PM there are 166 sunshades and 42 shadow boxes to be installed,you decide ;)
Nice one. Thanks for sharing that mate.
I assume that the shadow boxes are what I took a close-up of the other day. Are they going to be in the same colours (browns, blues and yellow) as the boxes on the sides of the building?
i like shovels April 16th, 2005, 01:34 PM patience mate :) Im off for the evening....chat to you another time
Pants April 16th, 2005, 01:38 PM patience mate :) Im off for the evening....chat to you another time
Patience? The building's over a year late! ;)
Cheers mate. Nice to have you on board.
Hercules Morse April 18th, 2005, 06:07 AM Im in the industry yes, glad you like the building:)
Well done pants..... at last - found his weakness - either H&Y or the building itself.
This is hilarious. Someone so knowledgeable, hiding behind a facade (so to speak). So proud of the building and sits in judgement of others who simply have an interest in big buildings.
I assume he's just as proud that its so fu.... late. He never mentioned to poor old Pikey (yeah climbing cranes in Adelaide), that Law Courts was always a two crane job, instead of that donkey. A structural floor system choice not suited to that building. Subbies lining up....rah, rah, rah.
An embarassment to the industry. Thankfully, the public usually just has a view as to whether they like it or not.
I think there's another thread starting - Arrogance.
Give us a break. :weird:
Will April 18th, 2005, 10:10 AM It doesnt matter what industry im in. Get closer,have a look at whats going on. ;)
Why are you so mysterious??
Pants April 28th, 2005, 06:52 AM From today:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/LawCourts1-28-4-05_edited.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/LawCourts2-28-4-05_edited.jpg
Pants May 5th, 2005, 09:44 AM Shutters are finally going up.
I'll get a pic as soon as they've put enough up to notice.
Pants May 9th, 2005, 12:31 AM Shutters:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/8-5-05006.jpg
pikey May 10th, 2005, 01:19 AM HOLY SHIT GUYS!! I was on my way to the gym this morning (5:45) and got the shock of my life. The whole roof section of this building, above the second glass section (LRM, the blades etc) are lit in different colours!! Gold, red and orange, it looks fucking horn as!! Didn't have my cam with me, I didn't even know it was planned?
Pants May 10th, 2005, 03:10 AM it looks fucking horn as!!
:?
:D
pikey May 10th, 2005, 06:10 AM Another words, just, fucking......good!! Weally weally cool!
Al May 10th, 2005, 07:00 AM Holy shit! 5.45am!? :)
pikey May 10th, 2005, 11:29 AM Yep, kinda crazy, but it's the best time of the day to train!
Adelarch May 10th, 2005, 04:25 PM it looks fucking horn as!!
yep horn is the word :)
this building looks great IMO. I like the colours in the bottom section more now that they read as a part of a broader palette rather than dominating the facade
thanks for the pics as always Pants :)
Skeletor May 11th, 2005, 05:52 AM Geez Pikey ur keen buddy!, but it leaves u feeling pretty good for the day ahead. My problem is actually getting myself out of a horizontal position at that hour...
More shutters up now, most of the eastern side of the top section has been done, wont take em long to have the whole building done and dusted :)
Will have to imagine these horn colours for now tho
Will May 13th, 2005, 02:05 PM The top section was illuminated last Thursday night; and I agree it looks really, really good. Maybe once the building is fully completed this lighting will become permanet. It would be a shame if it wasn't.
Adelarch May 20th, 2005, 02:00 PM shot from Hansen Yuncken's website - probably several months old
http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/clc-west.jpg
Hercules Morse May 23rd, 2005, 03:41 AM [QUOTE=Adelarch]shot from Baulderstone's website - probably several months old
I think you mean Hansen Yuncken
Adelarch May 23rd, 2005, 06:20 AM [QUOTE=Adelarch]shot from Baulderstone's website - probably several months old
I think you mean Hansen Yuncken
correct
checking anyone was awake :)
AdelaideSkytraveller June 3rd, 2005, 03:13 AM Some MP's are already calling for it to be demolished
as per today's Advertiser. I too believe it looks shocking
with those ugly coloured glass windows.
But tearing it down is going overboard. The outer
glass panels need to be removed and replaced with
dark blue ones. Then it would look swish, and those
awful sun shades should be redesigned.
Adelarch June 3rd, 2005, 12:13 PM OK time for a quick rant: its just so typical of the Adelaide establishment, calling for the demolition of a new and slightly daring development when there are COUNTLESS EYESORES ALL AROUND IT which have been just begging to be demolished for decades. How f*ckin annoying is that :bash:
Will June 3rd, 2005, 12:16 PM Some MP's are already calling for it to be demolished
as per today's Advertiser. I too believe it looks shocking
with those ugly coloured glass windows.
But tearing it down is going overboard. The outer
glass panels need to be removed and replaced with
dark blue ones. Then it would look swish, and those
awful sun shades should be redesigned.
I'm actually very dissapointed with the negative response this building has received. I personally find it very attractive and modern. This building is refreshing. Whilst I agree that the façade would look much better clad in reflective chrome blue glass, even the building's detractors have to admit that it looks much better than all those brown brutalist structures from the 1970's.
Giorgio June 3rd, 2005, 03:19 PM i havnt been following this building at all. I was wondering is that the complete facade because it looks ugly imo and out of date. shouldnt the windows be like blue or green?
Pants June 5th, 2005, 02:36 PM I keep on changing my mind about this one.
I do like it, but think that with the money they've thrown at it and the freedom architects usually get in designing such buildings it could have been better. I've absolutely no problem whatsoever with modern architecture and agree that Adelaide has to embrace it more, but I just think that this isn't as good an example of it as it should be - especially as it comes from the architects that designed the amazing Commonwealth Law Courts building in Melbourne.
Anyway, here it is taken today from a million different angles:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Picture002.jpg
Pants June 6th, 2005, 03:14 AM Just to compare, here's the Commonwealth Law Courts building in Melbourne:
http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/CLC-Melb-09.jpg
AG June 21st, 2005, 09:48 AM Someone tow this thread to the completed pile.
Al June 21st, 2005, 11:00 AM Anyone got a photo of those speccy multi-coloured lights that are suppose to adorn this building? I've been driving past it a few times to try and catch it but it's easier to get a photo of Elvis.
Pants June 22nd, 2005, 01:06 AM Someone tow this thread to the completed pile.
There's still a fair bit of work to do on it mate.
Al, the lights haven't been switched on lately. I tried to get a shot a month or so ago, but it was too dark. Should show up better when the rest of the building is lit up.
redstar June 22nd, 2005, 08:57 AM why does evry1 say its ugly, its modern! its funky... rock on adelaide!
Pants July 9th, 2005, 06:25 AM Ahem:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/IMG_0351.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/IMG_0354.jpg
Giorgio July 9th, 2005, 06:39 AM yuk this building is ugly....
AG July 17th, 2005, 02:54 AM And on the topic of how it looks was the article from yesterday:
An ugly duckling or rare vision for future?
By PAUL LLOYD
16jul05
AN opal, a street map, an architectural adventure, diabolical, an eyesore, mere scaffolding . . .
Everybody who has seen the new Commonwealth Law Courts building in the city has an opinion.
"Whatever people think of the building, courts look much better from the outside than from within." Law Society President Alex Ward said.
Not since the Festival Centre, three decade ago, has there been such controversy about a new piece of public architecture.
Many were glad to see the last of the Angas St Police Headquarters, blighting Victoria Square. The new courts building, on the site is an architecturally-challenging replacement.
Principal architect is Mariano DeDuonni of award-winning firm Hassell, which has pushed the design debate with such projects as the new Adelaide Oval grandstands and the airport terminal.
When an architect makes a statement, there's bound to be controversy, said an academic observer. "That is a healthy sign in a society," senior lecturer in the University of Adelaide's school of architecture, Veronica Soebarto, said. "Debate shows people care."
She interprets the architect's statement about the courts as a reflection of the surroundings and society. "Law courts were buildings that made people feel a bit scared. This is an attempt to be more friendly, more egalitarian," Dr Soebarto said.
The colours reflect the Adelaide Hills and plains. "If people understand these concepts they might not think it is so ugly," she said.
Dr Soebarto, whose special interest in environmental issues in urban buildings, is holding her judgment. "I want to see beyond the facade. Does it reduce water and energy use? Does it provide comfort to the people who work there? We won't know until it's in operation," she said." Some see the courts as Canberra thumbing its nose at Adelaide's heritage. Others view them as a chance to smash the conservative bowl smothering the city.
Pants July 20th, 2005, 05:58 AM Tadow, how you like me now?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/20705004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/20705017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/20705019.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/20705020.jpg
JAKJ July 20th, 2005, 08:11 AM I think its stunning
Will July 23rd, 2005, 09:36 AM The negative respopnse this building has received is a sad indicator of the insularity and conservatism that is still so prominent in the city. I'm certain that if this had been built in Melbourne the people would love it.
Personally I find the building refreshingly modern, and I really like how it looks from the South of the city, very imposing!
i like to dig August 21st, 2005, 02:54 AM I had the opportunity to walk through the site the other day and got some photos
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/funpigsy/SouthAtrium.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/funpigsy/OpalConcourse.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/funpigsy/EastAtrium.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/funpigsy/Court.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/funpigsy/Chamber.jpg
Pants August 21st, 2005, 03:13 AM Great pics. Thanks for posting them mate.
Not sure about some of those finish choices, but looks good on the whole.
Welcome to the forums too. You're not "I like shovels'" brother by any chance?
Howie August 21st, 2005, 03:32 AM Nice shots i like to dig!
Yes, looks like the accountants won in the choice of finishings... still pretty good effort. I dunno it just works for me ;)
Pants August 21st, 2005, 04:53 AM Yes, looks like the accountants won in the choice of finishings
Looks like Jarrah to my untrained eye mate, so I don't think they did it on the cheap.
It just doesn't look particularly good IMO.
Still have mixed feelings about the building as a whole, but at least it's a talking point and all Architecture should at least generate interest.
Howie August 21st, 2005, 05:01 AM In the last pic it's tough to tell whether it's jarrah or not... but it does look very much like those office flat packs you find online.
UrbanSG August 21st, 2005, 05:42 AM Nice pics 'I Like To Dig' good to see a bit of natural light in a courtroom for a change. Interior ain't too bad although very government like and plain in areas but still decent.
Mixed feelings on the building as a whole too but I don't hate it, lol. My least favourite part is the bright green copper part on the western side. Someone mentioned a while back that this will weather over time and take on a less harsh/bright look, can anyone confirm this? Or will we have to just wait and see? I reckon if it does weather it could look really good and enhance the building well. Also looks like it has some good views of the city too.
redstar August 21st, 2005, 08:31 AM the exterioir is disgraceful, the interior is stunning. need more hirise around this to cover up the public disgrace it shows. only way ill like this building is if that the stupid multi-colour windows get replaced by the teal-coulored ones above the green curved feature.
Giorgio August 21st, 2005, 03:47 PM why does evry1 say its ugly, its modern! its funky... rock on adelaide!
^^ change of tone?
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