Yo~ To be honest, this is, again, stolen from some website, taken by a great photographer(Forgot his name :D)

If you guys live in KL, take more of the KL skylines from little genting and post them here because I'm so interested in that now, so please share lah :D

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/scgohA/Sept2003D-2nd-Ripi.jpg

good one! :okay:....but I am just wondering why he include the tree in that picture? :? .....perhaps he wants the leaves to frame the picture but then again it is more of a distraction than a framing element.

Little Genting is a mere 5 mins from my house........in fact my house is on da same hill.....hhehehe.....not that high only ;)

Most forumers that I've met in Malaysia were brought up there by your truly with the exception of Zahirnya (still got no chance yet), Glenj (No time) and Seed (forgot! :D.....he visited lotsa places that me me totally forgotten bout it! :D)........

Here's a pano I took from there in Jan 2002.......sorry for the grainy picture :D




http://personalisation.maxis.net.my/view.php?ch=21&pg=141&ac=5766&fname=image&dbIndex=0

good one! :okay:....but I am just wondering why he include the tree in that picture? :? .....perhaps he wants the leaves to frame the picture but then again it is more of a distraction than a framing element.

Little Genting is a mere 5 mins from my house........in fact my house is on da same hill.....hhehehe.....not that high only ;)

Most forumers that I've met in Malaysia were brought up there by your truly with the exception of Zahirnya (still got no chance yet), Glenj (No time) and Seed (forgot! :D.....he visited lotsa places that me me totally forgotten bout it! :D)........

lol....SEED just went to KL..so fast u fogot liao...:)

lol....SEED just went to KL..so fast u fogot liao...:)

:bash: I forgot to bring him there lah! :bash:

wow thats one of the best angles of KL skyline I've seen! :eek:
More from that angle would be great.

Sweet...That's an awesome angle.

The following 3 pictures of KL Skyline are taken from Little Genting during the eve of our National Day last August ;)




http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline/dscn1609sm.jpg




http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline/dscn1613sm.jpg




http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline/skylinepanosm.jpg

:eek2: WOW!! I love all the beautiful lights. What's that well lighted building to the right of Petronas? Its so bright.

:eek2: WOW!! I love all the beautiful lights. What's that well lighted building to the right of Petronas? Its so bright.

That will be Bangunan AmFinance. My former working place. :)

great place to view KL. the view from the east of KL is my favourite. it looks very dense and modern from that angle;)

That will be Bangunan AmFinance. My former working place. :)


wow!! u worked in many cool buildings before. :)

Its really splendid at night! :eek2:

wow!! u worked in many cool buildings before. :)

Yaloh, don't know which one is real one :D:D:D

The KL night view is very romantic from far..... :drunk: :drunk:

wow!! u worked in many cool buildings before. :)

Where got. 3 cool buildings only la. Menara Citibank. Then Semua House before been transferred to Bangunan AmFinance. Then when I left Arab Malaysian to work for Maybank, I office was in Menara Maybank before been transferred to my now current office in Shah Alam. :)

Yaloh, don't know which one is real one :D:D:D

All of its is real. Nothing but the real thingy la. At least I never have the opportunity to work inside one of the twin tower of Maxis tower for example. Some people are much more lucky than me what ;)

Where got. 3 cool buildings only la. Menara Citibank. Then Semua House before been transferred to Bangunan AmFinance. Then when I left Arab Malaysian to work for Maybank, I office was in Menara Maybank before been transferred to my now current office in Shah Alam. :)

wah!! citibank also?? so cool! where is Semua Hiuse?? sounds familiar

wah!! citibank also?? so cool! where is Semua Hiuse?? sounds familiar

Semua House is located in Masjid India. :)

Semua House is located in Masjid India. :)

izzit tall?? how bout' pics:)

Very nice pics...But i think the ptt's light that night a little bit weird!!!! its light suppose to be like Am Finance. Still remmeber, we tot ptt did not light up that night:D

izzit tall?? how bout' pics:)

Not that tall la. Around 15 floor if I am not mistaken. Old building already. Will try my best to give you the picture. Lots of ghost though. Experienced it once. :)

Not that tall la. Around 15 floor if I am not mistaken. Old building already. Will try my best to give you the picture. Lots of ghost though. Experienced it once. :)


Walau~~ Don't give the ghost one ah~

Walau~~ Don't give the ghost one ah~

Got la. There was a story about this girl that was raped and murdered inside that building around the 80's and she haunted the building ever since.

Eh..imagine you have to work alone inside a 15 storey building in the middle of the night when the lift already been off for security reason. And suddenly around 2am someone ring the bell of your office then knock on the door and when you look into the security camera there is no one around. God. Tell me about it.

Got la. There was a story about this girl that was raped and murdered inside that building around the 80's and she haunted the building ever since.

Eh..imagine you have to work alone inside a 15 storey building in the middle of the night when the lift already been off for security reason. And suddenly around 2am someone ring the bell of your office then knock on the door and when you look into the security camera there is no one around. God. Tell me about it.

u r that guy working alone??

so what did u do?? chant Quran?? or hide under the table:D

u r that guy working alone??

so what did u do?? chant Quran?? or hide under the table:D

yeah...me la. who else. unfortunately my workmate took emergency leave that nite, and working alone in level 10 proved to be more than what I bargain for :)

What did I do? Ada la.

wah!! citibank also?? so cool! where is Semua Hiuse?? sounds familiar




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You could see Semua House in the picture above ^^^.......it is the building to the left of the left Cap Sq twin building........the building has lotsa horizontal lines across and also a trapezoidal crown. ;)


The building is kinda derelict....not maintained properly......looks very old :(

good one! :okay:....but I am just wondering why he include the tree in that picture? :? .....perhaps he wants the leaves to frame the picture but then again it is more of a distraction than a framing element.

Little Genting is a mere 5 mins from my house........in fact my house is on da same hill.....hhehehe.....not that high only ;)

Most forumers that I've met in Malaysia were brought up there by your truly with the exception of Zahirnya (still got no chance yet), Glenj (No time) and Seed (forgot! :D.....he visited lotsa places that me me totally forgotten bout it! :D)........

Perhaps the leaves were intentionally captured to provide the contrast between concrete jungle and the real one, that which is man-made and that which is natural, and perhaps to reinforce KL's image as not only a garden city, but a city surrounded by gardens, greenery and hills.. (just as KLIA was conceived on the forest-in-the-airport and airport-in-the-forest concept). Makes sense? :)

Looking fwd to making another trip to KL in the coming months, and hopefully, to Little Genting :D

Got la. There was a story about this girl that was raped and murdered inside that building around the 80's and she haunted the building ever since.

Eh..imagine you have to work alone inside a 15 storey building in the middle of the night when the lift already been off for security reason. And suddenly around 2am someone ring the bell of your office then knock on the door and when you look into the security camera there is no one around. God. Tell me about it.

Reading that gave me goose bumps :D

Many offices, especially the older ones, are inhabited by 'the others'.. (if you know what i mean). I had a friend who was able to 'see' these things, and when he paid a visit to my office, he told me about the presence of 3 middle-aged 'aunties' hanging around the pantry.. gosh! I never felt comfortable working late thereafter :D

Reading that gave me goose bumps :D

Many offices, especially the older ones, are inhabited by 'the others'.. (if you know what i mean). I had a friend who was able to 'see' these things, and when he paid a visit to my office, he told me about the presence of 3 middle-aged 'aunties' hanging around the pantry.. gosh! I never felt comfortable working late thereafter :D

Usually those whom could see 'the others' wouldn't reveal to those who don't........one of my grandaunt could but she never tell anyone bout her experience much esp children fearing the living would interfere with the dead. ;)

Thank goodness my office is new.....hehehe :D

This is Semua House:


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/Semua House/semua house pano.JPG

The area surrounding Semua House - Masjid India! (the heart of Little India!) :)

Here's some pics....


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/Semua House/DSCN3539sm.JPG



http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/Semua House/DSCN3556sm.JPG



http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/Semua House/DSCN3570sm.JPG

City One Condo on the left and the shorter building is Semua House.......


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/Semua House/DSCN3586sm.JPG

City One Condo on the left and the shorter building is Semua House.......


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/Semua House/DSCN3586sm.JPG

Isn't City One Condo supposed to consist of two block of residential building. Donno what happen to the other one...

thanks 4 the pics, szehoong:D

it looks bad, really needs mantainence

Hi guys!...Im new to the forum, well kind of new actually, been hanging around for some time. I finally gathered the momentum to post a reply today. It’s great to see a bunch of Malaysians boasting about their level of urbanization. I’m one major fan of skyscrapers and anything to do with how cities live, eat and grow.

Szehoong, those night skylines of KL from "Littel Genting"are just superb, especially the first one. I simply adore KL. KL has got a bit about just everything, which is maybe why we say it has an identity crisis... but I think that’s the best part about a city. We get bored of boxes and spheres too quickly. The architecture in KL is a distinctive blend of people and their cultures, even though it maybe one of the youngest capitals around. I hope to be a part of this amazing forum, until then... a Happy Easter to all.

Hi guys!...Im new to the forum, well kind of new actually, been hanging around for some time. I finally gathered the momentum to post a reply today. It’s great to see a bunch of Malaysians boasting about their level of urbanization. I’m one major fan of skyscrapers and anything to do with how cities live, eat and grow.

Szehoong, those night skylines of KL from "Littel Genting"are just superb, especially the first one. I simply adore KL. KL has got a bit about just everything, which is maybe why we say it has an identity crisis... but I think that’s the best part about a city. We get bored of boxes and spheres too quickly. The architecture in KL is a distinctive blend of people and their cultures, even though it maybe one of the youngest capitals around. I hope to be a part of this amazing forum, until then... a Happy Easter to all.





Welcome the to forums Argory!


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Thanks Argory....great to see another enthusiast from Klang Valley! :okay:

Feel free to post pictures and your thoughts here more and Happy Easter! ;)

Beautiful pix of KL from Little Genting!

As for haunted buildings, i heard that this near-abandoned building in Klang, the Plaza Metro (previously Plaza Chiliung) is also full of those "other things"... Is that true?

WARM WELCOME ARGORY :)

thanks 4 the pics, szehoong:D

it looks bad, really needs mantainence

Oh God. Tell me about it :bash:

Thanks a million for the warm welcome guys. :) :)

kl is the proud of malaysia
but i feel tat the taller building in kl still no so many
if compare to china.
most ppls espeacilly malaysia which is nv go to china will thinking tat china is poor
but i think china at least got 4 or above 5 city taller building is more wonderful than kl
for example,shanghai,shengzhen...

kl is the proud of malaysia
but i feel tat the taller building in kl still no so many
if compare to china.
most ppls espeacilly malaysia which is nv go to china will thinking tat china is poor
but i think china at least got 4 or above 5 city taller building is more wonderful than kl
for example,shanghai,shengzhen...

China is such a big country~ Cannot compare one lah. Malaysia's population is 0.026 of China's~ Shanghai and Shengzhen are very big cities, unlike KL lah~ You should compare Shanghai/ShengZhen to NYC (Although I don't think You should compare Shengzhen lah, people will laugh :D)
As for the number of buldings, aiya China got money mah~ Everyone in China invests 1 dollar and they'll have $1,200,000,000.00~ :D:D

IMO, KL owns one of the best skylines in SEA.

Some question about little genting. I've never been up there before. You guys care to share with me more about it? Like is there any benches to sit and enjoy the view? Can we go there by car? Is there sufficient parking, what street is it on, etc. I really feel like going there everynight when I go to KL. The view is probably the best I've ever seen! I'm so proud to be Malaysian. I kept telling my friends how great KL is now as well as the power skyline little genting offers.

By the way, I'll graduate next year and I'll start finding a job in KL~ Just wondering if it's very hard to get a job in KL. I went thru some Job Search in KL and there were some positions but the pay was lower than I expected. Is it possible to get a job with more than RM 2200 per month with the Econ degree in KL? How much would the rent be for the apartment in KL? What's the estimate living expense in KL? Is it risky to run a 3C business in KL?(My friend is thinking about that)

Some question about little genting. I've never been up there before.

Ha..ha..I'm also never been to that side yet even though I stay in KL for more than 4 years already. Shame on me. I think I wanna go there by myself later..

Sze...direction please. Let say...can I go there from Jalan Loke Yew then :?
and where should I go from there...thank you in advance :D

Some question about little genting. I've never been up there before. You guys care to share with me more about it? Like is there any benches to sit and enjoy the view? Can we go there by car? Is there sufficient parking, what street is it on, etc. I really feel like going there everynight when I go to KL. The view is probably the best I've ever seen! I'm so proud to be Malaysian. I kept telling my friends how great KL is now as well as the power skyline little genting offers.




OKay...answers to ya questions:

Is there any benches to sit and enjoy the view?
Yes....there are stone benches available. There is also a playground there if you are interested to sit on the swing! :D

Can we go there by car?
You MUST go there by car. No public transport go up there. :(

Is there sufficient parking?
Yea......parking there is plenty. You parked by the roadside and could sit in the car while enjoying the view. Some couple do hanky panky stuff in their steamy car! :D

What street is it on?
Err......I dun think there is a street name but the road leads to Taman Bukit Permai.

What to do if I am hungry?
There are hawker stalls like mamak, junk food peddlers, Drink sellers and Ramly burger stalls there.

Is it safe there?
Yes. Police patrols there regularly. But to be on the safe side - lock your cars lah! :D




If you wanna go there next time just gimme a buzz. I'll bring you there...it is just 5 mins from my house. I dun go there so often hehehe :D

By the way, I'll graduate next year and I'll start finding a job in KL~ Just wondering if it's very hard to get a job in KL. I went thru some Job Search in KL and there were some positions but the pay was lower than I expected. Is it possible to get a job with more than RM 2200 per month with the Econ degree in KL? How much would the rent be for the apartment in KL? What's the estimate living expense in KL? Is it risky to run a 3C business in KL?(My friend is thinking about that)

What kind of job are you looking for exactly. Basically from my point of view, it is not that hard to find a job, well for experience worker, but for fresh graduate it might be a bit difficult. You can find it no doubt, but seldom a company offer a salary of RM2.2k for a fresh graduate; I mean for a basic salary, unless you count other things like overtime, allowance and etc. There are no doubt that there are some company out there that are willing to offer you the salary that you looking for...but so far, I haven't found it yet.

There are some part of KL where the rent is considerably afforable compared to other area. The main thing that you have to consider will be the distance from your home to your office. No point having a cheap rent, then have to commute all the way to you office..especially if you drive a car. Nowadays I have to say that most people like to choose a place that near to lrt. Go for a room instead of the whole apartment.

Estimate living in KL :? Varies between people. But for me, food will be the largest expenses no doubt about it :D ..After deducting everything, month I will be able to save RM800, which I think is good enough.

By the way, I'll graduate next year and I'll start finding a job in KL~ Just wondering if it's very hard to get a job in KL. I went thru some Job Search in KL and there were some positions but the pay was lower than I expected. Is it possible to get a job with more than RM 2200 per month with the Econ degree in KL? How much would the rent be for the apartment in KL? What's the estimate living expense in KL? Is it risky to run a 3C business in KL?(My friend is thinking about that)


Job market since after Chinese New Year till now is VERY good.

Of course pay would be low if you're a fresh graduate......I tried in vain searching for pay higher than 2K but dun bother.....the higest I could find last time is just touching 2K only. ( should have took the job! :rant: ) ......once your're confirmed or after a certain time .....guarantee got pay raise one.....BUT it varies from company lah. ;)

Some of my friends got pay raise like twice in a year! :eek:



Renting apartment in KL varies lah........You're looking at the entire apt or just room? :?

Living expenses? Well....let say you could survive comfortably with even a RM1500 pay ( minus car/home installment lah.....or in my case - credit card repayments :cry: )

3C? Apa itu? :D

.........but for fresh graduate it might be a bit difficult. You can find it no doubt, but seldom a company offer a salary of RM2.2k for a fresh graduate; I mean for a basic salary, unless you count other things like overtime, allowance and etc. There are no doubt that there are some company out there that are willing to offer you the salary that you looking for...but so far, I haven't found it yet.



Estimate living in KL :? Varies between people. But for me, food will be the largest expenses no doubt about it :D ..After deducting everything, month I will be able to save RM800, which I think is good enough.


yea.......I was without job for 7 months since I graduated and I didn't graduate with a pariah certificate or from a pariah college.........just work and gain experience first......suffer for a few months at least ;)

Farid > of course you save RM800.........you pay so high.....somemore got so many benefit.....and you dun drive a car....hehehehe :D

3C? Apa itu? :D

I just wanna ask about the same thing just now ;)

Sze...direction please. Let say...can I go there from Jalan Loke Yew then :?
and where should I go from there...thank you in advance :D


aiyoh......okay lemme try:

From Jalan Loke Yew just go straight till you see the Pertama roundabout (Cheras bound). Go on the flyover at the roundabout. Then you'll pass by BP on your left....go straight till you see a bus stop to your left. Just before the bus stop....there is an exit ......turn left.

okay.....follow the road and you'll see a Christian cemetery on your left and a Muslim cemetery on your right......go straight......and you'll see traffic lights......just go straight and at the roundabout - go 12 o'clock.

Go straight till you meet another traffic light which is next to another BP (BP on your right). Keep left at the lights. Go straight.......the next light also keep straight (you'll see a Caltex and a Petronas on your right right after this set of lights). Okay.....you'll see another traffic light and for landmark check - there is a mosque on your right. Go straight and you'll pass by an Esso petrol station. In front is another roundabout - turn 3 o'clock.

Go straight and about 300m another roundabout - turn 3 o'clock again.........just follow the road up the hill and you'll be there! ;)

Farid > of course you save RM800.........you pay so high.....somemore got so many benefit.....and you dun drive a car....hehehehe :D

Well...you have to remember that I'm no longer working shift...so the benefit already not on my side mah..;)

Salary is not the question here...and beside I'm going to buy a car on top of paying my housing loan installement remember. At the end of the day, I guess both of us are even :D

Well...you have to remember that I'm no longer working shift...so the benefit already not on my side mah..;)

Salary is not the question here...and beside I'm going to buy a car on top of paying my housing loan installement remember. At the end of the day, I guess both of us are even :D

haha okay....okay....even lah! :D

Anyway do you comprehend my directions to Little Genting?

Should you failed to go ...just gimme a buzz.....If you can't get hold o me......ask around. If you're talking to a Malay - refer the place as Taman Bukit Permai. If Chinese - Little Genting....if still dun understand? - say "Siu Want Tank" :D

Degree in Business not sure..but for IT degree fresh graduates with MCSE certificate or higher(Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer) / Cisco certs...they can start with more than RM3000 for basic salary(depends on which company) ;)

Anyway do you comprehend my directions to Little Genting?

Should you failed to go ...just gimme a buzz.....If you can't get hold o me......ask around. If you're talking to a Malay - refer the place as Taman Bukit Permai. If Chinese - Little Genting....if still dun understand? - say "Siu Want Tank" :D

Yeah...I think I passed that area before...maybe I didn't realised it. Hopefully can go there tomorrow after gym. Today cannot. Cannot miss "Akademi Fantasia" mah.

Wah...what is "Siu Want Tank"? any why is a different name among Malay and Chinese for that place ah...

Yeah...I think I passed that area before...maybe I didn't realised it. Hopefully can go there tomorrow after gym. Today cannot. Cannot miss "Akademi Fantasia" mah.

Wah...what is "Siu Want Tank"? any why is a different name among Malay and Chinese for that place ah...


haha.....I am off tomorrow......if you nak teman just gimme a buzz lah. These day no nice view thanks to the haze! :rant:

"Siu Want Tank" (try to say it in English and you'll get the equalent of the Cantonese pronounciation) - directly translate to "Little Genting" lah. I dunno why.....but the phrase 'Lil Genting' isn't popular amongst the Malay......maybe because the nickname originates from Cantonese so most Malay's aren't aware of it? :? ;)

I just want to go there for a while only and not for looking at the scenery. Just want to the the vibe of that place :D

I just want to go there for a while only and not for looking at the scenery. Just want to the the vibe of that place :D


Okaies...cool......hope you like it there ;)

Try going in the evening and watch the sunset. It would be great :okay:

I still have no idea what the ethnic Indians call the place ....hmmmmmm :D

3C? Apa itu? :D[/QUOTE]

Yo guys~ Thanks for your response~ I just need to survive and know how much exactly we spend in a month so that I can kind of calculate my budget ma~

Anyways, as for the term 3C, I believe it came from Japan. It's very popular in Taiwan too~ My friend told me that term, otherwise I wouldn't have know, just like you guys :D It means business concentrating on Computers, Cameras, and Communications(Cell phones, etc.), that's why it's called 3 C's I think. But of course that kind of business also does other business besides the 3 C's, like PDA's, home appliances, etc.

Ther reason I asked this is because I can never find a better website regarding this~ Even if I find it, it's very outdated, like never updated for more than 2 years :D I think there're too many outdoor activities to offer in Malaysia, that's why they don't spend time doing the websites and stuff :D
Wei~ as for the apartment thing, is it possible to get a better view of downtown KL there? As for job, i'm wondering for fresh graduates, do the companies provide training? If so, how long will the training be? What is the minimum wage that one can take in order to survive? In fact, Degree of Economics is pretty general. So I don't really have any preference of what I'm going to do. My thought is, as long as the pay is reasonable, as long as it's offered in KL, as long as it's doable to me, I'll go for it. Top of my head, I can only think about sales and banks. But I heard sales is that you have to run around the city all the time, although the wage is very good compared to other jobs, I think it's not my style~ I don't like to walk, I'm super lazy :D:D. Is there any positioin such that you can like have a space or desk in the company and do the paperworks or documentations and the pay is reasonable one? Any more suggestion of what I can do:D? Appreciated lah, Hehe, sounds like I'm pretty useless :D:D:D

Thanks Sze Hoong, I'll remember your offer :D

Wei Zahirnya~ when you go up there, take some pictures and share with us~

Yo guys~ Thanks for your response~ I just need to survive and know how much exactly we spend in a month so that I can kind of calculate my budget ma~


I guess if you spend a lot on eating outside, not the mamak one la..and clubbing and the rest what the KL people who seem to have lot of money try to do but in reality dont really have that cash flow, I personally think that does not matter how much you get you will not survive.

My first job was with Citibank and they paid me RM1500. Fresh graduate, have to do sales, not that much in terms of commission cause I hate to do sale and though I think I cannot survive with that amount of money, I did manage to go thru it.

Then came AmBank. I got RM1800. Still survive. Now with Maybank. Though Sze did point out that my salary is more than enough for me, but the bigger your paycheck the bigger is the slices of your expenses. Again I guess it will on one punya style of life :D

I guess for me RM1800 you can survive and live a decent life as a start.
And if I'm not mistaken, a fresh graduate starting salary will start from RM1500 to RM2k.

I love the apartment in Seksyen 10, Wangsa Maju, especially the Seri Kiabalu apartment cause all the apartment have a view of downtown KL and it is really nice. For me that is the closest to KL and near lrt where one can start, unless you want to stay in Gurney Height.

My brother graduated from UTM this year as an electronic engineer. His salary is RM 2.6K! That's a lot for a fresh graduate. Have not plus EPF and etc yet. He is working in Penang.

My brother graduated from UTM this year as an electronic engineer. His salary is RM 2.6K! That's a lot for a fresh graduate. Have not plus EPF and etc yet. He is working in Penang.


wah...that's very lucky! :eek:

....and when you talk bout pay you dun factor in EPF lah :bash: :D

I've got so many engineer friends whom starting pay is just around 2K. But of course that was like the job market 2 years agolah. The job market now is not bad.;)

Actually he's VERY VERY lucky cos usually the pay in Penang is slightly lower than in Klang Valley. I've got lotsa Penang frens looking for job too but ended up in Penang. And Penang usually got a bit more jobs than in Klang Valley ;)

wah...that's very lucky! :eek:

....and when you talk bout pay you dun factor in EPF lah :bash: :D

I've got so many engineer friends whom starting pay is just around 2K. But of course that was like the job market 2 years agolah. The job market now is not bad.;)

Actually he's VERY VERY lucky cos usually the pay in Penang is slightly lower than in Klang Valley. I've got lotsa Penang frens looking for job too but ended up in Penang. And Penang usually got a bit more jobs than in Klang Valley ;)

Really really? I thought KL always got more jobs than anywhere else in Malaysia leh~ What is EPF? I'm so dumb one :D:D
Hey, my brother is thinking about getting a job in KL too, he'll graduate at the same time as me, probably next august or september. He's studying Electrical engineering and minoring in business. Is IT job popular in KL than Penang?

Really really? I thought KL always got more jobs than anywhere else in Malaysia leh~ What is EPF? I'm so dumb one :D:D
Hey, my brother is thinking about getting a job in KL too, he'll graduate at the same time as me, probably next august or september. He's studying Electrical engineering and minoring in business. Is IT job popular in KL than Penang?

Klang Valley definitely have more jobs than in Penang BUT what I meant is per capita (sorry for the confusion earlier). It is easier to find job in Penang as the job market here in KL is very competitive ;)

EPF is Employees Provident Fund (KWSP - Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja). That means your salary is deducted a little (5%) every month to be saved and employer's contribution is at 10% of your pay - to be saved till you;re 55 years old then only can redraw the money. It is to make sure you;ve got enough money when you're old :)

I am not too sure bout IT job market but I think both places equally as popular........

Eh..where got 5% one :?. Labour law regulation mention that on your part, you have a choice of either 9 or 11% for deduction on EPF. On the employer side it will start at 12% mah. Maybank pay 16% if I'm not mistaken for confirm staff.

EPF is Employees Provident Fund (KWSP - Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja). That means your salary is deducted a little (5%) every month to be saved and employer's contribution is at 10% of your pay - to be saved till you;re 55 years old then only can redraw the money. It is to make sure you;ve got enough money when you're old :)


Well..techically your account in EPF consist of 3 different acccount, mainly account 1, 2 and 3. Of all the monthly deduction that you have to surrender each month: 60% will go to account 1, 30% to account 2 and 10 % to account 3. Account 1 is for retirement fund, which like Sze mention, can only be withdraw when you reach your retirement age. Account 2 if you want to buy house, or rennovate your house, then you can use the money in that account for that kind of purpose. Account 3 is only for medication purpose. :D

Ooo... so confusing. Lets say my salary is RM 1000. My salary will be deducted 5% so it would be RM 50, plus the company paid me 10% or RM 100. So the total amount would be RM 150 save in EPF ??? Hmm... By the way what does SOSCO stand for?

Zahirnya seems very experted in Banking wor.... You study banking?

Zahirnya seems very experted in Banking wor.... You study banking?

he work in Maybank lah:D

Hmm... By the way what does SOSCO stand for?

Not SOSCO la...but SOCSO which stand for Social Security Organisation ;)

Zahirnya seems very experted in Banking wor.... You study banking?

No la..will are bound to know this when you start working. I took Human Resource as my degree and Labour Law happen to be one of the compulsory subject..so have to learn la even though I hate law :D

Can I keep my own EPS just in case of the company's bankrupcy? :D:D:D

Can I keep my own EPS just in case of the company's bankrupcy? :D:D:D


Wah good explanation Farid! :okay:

I sucked big time in all these financial stuffs. Even wether I am eligible to be taxed also gotta refer to my friends hehehe :D

Andrew > Your EPF savings are safekept by EPF and it is a govt agency. So it has nothing to do with the company you're working with. So whatever happened to your company doesn't matter ;)

Wah good explanation Farid! :okay:

I sucked big time in all these financial stuffs. Even wether I am eligible to be taxed also gotta refer to my friends hehehe :D

Andrew > Your EPF savings are safekept by EPF and it is a govt agency. So it has nothing to do with the company you're working with. So whatever happened to your company doesn't matter ;)

Oh thank tou SzeHoong for explaining this to me. One thing to make sure, is EPF called "Grandfather Save Gold" in chinese?

Oh thank tou SzeHoong for explaining this to me. One thing to make sure, is EPF called "Grandfather Save Gold" in chinese?


haha.....no prob.....glad my limited banking/financial knowledge could come to a good use :D

I've not heard of that Chinese phrase hmmmmm.......I'll ask around :D

haha.....no prob.....glad my limited banking/financial knowledge could come to a good use :D

I've not heard of that Chinese phrase hmmmmm.......I'll ask around :D

It's called "Gong Ji Jin" in mandarin and "gong jik gum" in cantonese~ :D:D:D

It's called "Gong Ji Jin" in mandarin and "gong jik gum" in cantonese~ :D:D:D

oh I see! :D ...silly me....hahaha....yea....EPF is "Gong Jik Kum"! :okay:

oh I see! :D ...silly me....hahaha....yea....EPF is "Gong Jik Kum"! :okay:

Direct translate is "Grandfather Save Gold", isn't it? :D:D:D

I sucked big time in all these financial stuffs. Even wether I am eligible to be taxed also gotta refer to my friends hehehe :D


I don't think you have to pay tax la Sze. Though you still have to fill up the Income Tax form...;)

hokkien - kong cek kim :D By the way, the middle word mean save? i never knew that.

If you happen to work by your own...or part time job usually you don't have to pay for EPF cause seldom people do, even by right you are binded by law for the deduction. ;)

Direct translate is "Grandfather Save Gold", isn't it? :D:D:D


I think the "Gong" refers to as 'work' lah not 'grandfather' (I need to ask the Chinese educated people on this hehehe)......."Jik" would be 'acummulated'......"Kum" is abviously 'riches' or 'gold' ;)

I don't think you have to pay tax la Sze. Though you still have to fill up the Income Tax form...;)


Aiks...have to ah? Matiloh....many people told me no need! :eek: :dizzy:

Any penalties for not doing so? :?

I think the "Gong" refers to as 'work' lah not 'grandfather' (I need to ask the Chinese educated people on this hehehe)......."Jik" would be 'acummulated'......"Kum" is abviously 'riches' or 'gold' ;)

Oh oh~~~ the jik is accumulate meh? I thought is one of the words from economy~~~:D:D:D

hokkien - kong cek kim :D By the way, the middle word mean save? i never knew that.

"cek" in mandarin is "ji"...."ji" is "lei ji"(fill up)....so "cek" is save lor. :)

Aiks...have to ah? Matiloh....many people told me no need! :eek: :dizzy:

Any penalties for not doing so? :?

Yeah. Even though you are not entitle to pay for the tax, it is actually compulsory for you to fill up the form and return it back so that they know that you don't have to pay for it.

Penalties..one of my workmate kena denda RM4k cause she never submitted the form for 6 years in a row if I'm not mistaken. ;)

Yeah. Even though you are not entitle to pay for the tax, it is actually compulsory for you to fill up the form and return it back so that they know that you don't have to pay for it.

Penalties..one of my workmate kena denda RM4k cause she never submitted the form for 6 years in a row if I'm not mistaken. ;)


oh dear! Like that I sure kena cause I worked for 2 years already........could we submit the form anytime? .....in that case I would submit next month lah......aiyoh.......nanti kena denda habis man! :dizzy:


Actually a lot of my colleagues & friends also din submit......that means they all must've kena alsoloh? :?

Knock knock...where can submit anytime you want one. :lol: This year one the due date was in Mei la if I am not mistaken...

The denda actually I'm not sure. But then she was penalised cause she submit it as she need to have the EA and J Form for some documentation. You can run away from it but when the time come, then you might find yourself in trouble. Wait for next year aje la. Then tell them you never get the form in the first place or you already post it but didn't reach them :D

Wah~ This has good resolution~
http://www.kevinhan.net/v2/images/october/IMG_0583.jpg

wah.....chooon........
Hey guys,wat do u think if they fit a 350-600m skyscraper in between of KLCC n KL tower:D I think KL will have a more complete skyline then

wah.....chooon........
Hey guys,wat do u think if they fit a 350-600m skyscraper in between of KLCC n KL tower:D I think KL will have a more complete skyline then

I think if there're more 250-350m tall buildings in between, the skyline will look better. But if there're more buildings taller and equal tall to PTT and KL tower, KL skyline will lose its uniqueness~ Of course that was just my opinion lah~ :D:D:D

I think the only thing KL misses is its density and the infrastructure. The skyline will look much more "tidy" from any angle if the city planning is good, such as Toronto. :)

I think if there're more 250-350m tall buildings in between, the skyline will look better. But if there're more buildings taller and equal tall to PTT and KL tower, KL skyline will lose its uniqueness~ Of course that was just my opinion lah~ :D:D:D

I think the only thing KL misses is its density and the infrastructure. The skyline will look much more "tidy" from any angle if the city planning is good, such as Toronto. :)

big reason why they are always been good photographs of western cities (particulary american ones) is because they are just well planned - buildings are centralised, street patterns are in grids and in some instances they position the CBD on natural landmarks i.e. mountains, lakes or sea to get excellent view of the city. i hope you people know what i'm talking about............ :weirdo: :weirdo:

big reason why they are always been good photographs of western cities (particulary american ones) is because they are just well planned - buildings are centralised, street patterns are in grids and in some instances they position the CBD on natural landmarks i.e. mountains, lakes or sea to get excellent view of the city. i hope you people know what i'm talking about............ :weirdo: :weirdo:

I totally agreed with that :)

I also agree.Coz KL,previously was a very unplanned city.....recalling 10-15 years ago...KL was nothing compared to Singapore but KL is slowly evolving to a neater,vibrant and exciting new city through out the years:D

I also agree.Coz KL,previously was a very unplanned city.....recalling 10-15 years ago...KL was nothing compared to Singapore but KL is slowly evolving to a neater,vibrant and exciting new city through out the years:D

KL is getting much better now and I'm so proud of it~ I think it has a lot more to offer than many other big cities :)
The only thing I hope is the improvement of the public transportation so that the traffic will get a lot better.

http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~goh.andrew/kl2.jpg

nice leh..

Wah~~~~
I'm speechless~~~ Any more? :D
Thank you so much Baq :)

KL CBD view from little GENTING!

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/9797Kuala_Lumpur.jpg?684

http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/9797Kuala_Lumpur1.jpg?2304

great shots from both of you.would love to go to little genting one day.is it somewhere near UPM?

Wei, I found these on the internet~ Very good as well :)

http://www.andylim.com/gallery/albums/Selangor/Natural_vs_Concrete_Jungle3.jpg

http://www.andylim.com/gallery/albums/Selangor/Natural_vs_Concrete_Jungle4.jpg

great shots from both of you.would love to go to little genting one day.is it somewhere near UPM?

I never been there but it's in Cheras I think... Sze Hoong mentioned once how to get there, I just forgot :D

great shots from both of you.would love to go to little genting one day.is it somewhere near UPM?


@D_Y2k.2^ Little genting - it's just nearing with Szehoong's house !!!!!

absolutely stunning...........what a great angle:applause: :applause: :applause:

great shots from both of you.would love to go to little genting one day.is it somewhere near UPM?


UPM there where got hills? :D

It is at the border of Ampang and Cheras....near to the Pandan areas. The place is officially called Taman Bukit Permai ;)

Yea......like Andrew and Nazrey had mentioned, it is near my house .....just bout 5 mins drive. It is in fact on the same hill as my place but only higher :D

http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~goh.andrew/kl2.jpg

nice leh..


This guy is darn lucky! :okay: ....the sky is so darn clear for him to take the pic....as for me I've got no luck :(

I noticed this view back in Sept 2002 but during that trip I've got no tripod ( din bring! :bleep: ) :cry:

Just a lil tip for those whom had super super telephoto lens > the place to get this view is at the back of Theme Park Hotel.....there a small park there ;)

Then all subsequent trips till my most recent one back in August - all my trips are marred by a very foggy Genting!!!!! :wallbash: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I'll see if my luck improves on my next trip there and you guys would get lotsa pics from me! :D

http://www.andylim.com/gallery/albums/Selangor/Natural_vs_Concrete_Jungle3.jpg
Thanks Andrew! This is sure best best one! :eek:

http://www.andylim.com/gallery/albums/Selangor/Natural_vs_Concrete_Jungle3.jpg
Thanks Andrew! This is sure best best one! :eek:

NP :)

those pics posted by Andrew Goh are super amazing!!!!

:eek2: :eek2: :eek:

ah....paise paise...eh Sze,didn;t know u stay in Cheras.Go up to the little genting often or not?

ah....paise paise...eh Sze,didn;t know u stay in Cheras.Go up to the little genting often or not?


haha...no prob man.....nolah......I dun go there often .....the last time I am there is like 2 months back :D

Although got nice view but I have no reason to go there .......people only go there with a bunch of friends to lepak and be with their girl/boy frens ;)

Wow..those pics r extremly nice..:okay:

If other buildings in KL can lit up like PTT and Maxis...KL skyline at night must be amazing:eek:

http://www.andylim.com/gallery/albums/Selangor/Natural_vs_Concrete_Jungle3.jpg

good lord almighty!!! :master: :master: :master:

those pics posted by Andrew Goh are super amazing!!!!

:eek2: :eek2: :eek:

If those were taken by me, I would've been proud to hear this :D:D:D

it's amazing to see how tall is Telekom tower from that distance too:)

If those were taken by me, I would've been proud to hear this :D:D:D

Fabulous photos nonetheless! :) Thanks for posting them in. The highrise sprawl all the way to PJ is really amazing!

okaylah.....I dun have any panos here to post (cos I dun have any pano maker software at office)...so I am posting some close-up shots I took in 2 months ago from Little Genting ;)

Here goes:

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4400sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4401sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4406sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4407sm.JPG



http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4408sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4409sm.JPG



http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4410sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4411sm.JPG



http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4414sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4415sm.JPG



http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4431sm.JPG

http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/IMG_4434sm.JPG


^^^ This is the real Genting from 'Little Genting' :D

nice!!! awesome!!! u seems to have ur luck back to get such clear image :):)

nice!!! awesome!!! u seems to have ur luck back to get such clear image :):)



hahaha....yea.....I was lucky cos it was only very slightly hazy that nite ;)

Thanks! :okay:

wah!good pics man!Wat was ur tele lense's range?400mm???Looks so close!And from your photo,i can see that Menara Shahzan has put up the sign!

KLCC looks very elegent on the close range shot

From the peak of Bukit Seputeh
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9cht8.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9cht7.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9cht2.jpg

ZOOOOOMED from Little Genting

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9klmer3.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9klmer2.jpg

Pandan Indah's CBD from Little Genting

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/2/9pandanche.jpg

Beautiful pictures! I've been to KL twice, i love it!

Wow, wonderful pix from Little Genting, szehoong!

Btw, never knew Menara Merais could be seen from here also (the red line behind Cygal Tower)...
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala%20lumpur/skyline%20fr%20little%20genting/IMG_4409sm.JPG

Wah Sze Hoong!!! We can see real Genting from KL?????

All those lights..like jewels! :eek:

Yo Sze Hoong~ I love you, man~ I like that 2004 night pano you took from Little Genting more than I like myself, it was OUTSTANDING!!!
I've had it printed out at a photo store and made it my most favorite bookmark. Hope you won't charge me copyright lah :D:D

Yo Sze Hoong~ I love you, man~ I like that 2004 night pano you took from Little Genting more than I like myself, it was OUTSTANDING!!!
I've had it printed out at a photo store and made it my most favorite bookmark. Hope you won't charge me copyright lah :D:D

haha...thanks man! :D You come to KL you belanja me minum hahaha (you're lucky I am not an alchoholic!) :lol:

ANyway you should tell me first mah......I was about to do a better pano....better than the one on the first page......well.....anyway I'll post it once it sudah siap ;)

Wah Sze Hoong!!! We can see real Genting from KL?????


yes.....in fact I could even see it from my house ;)

Anyway just to let ya know....it is visible even from the heart of KL.....here's a pic of Genting I took from Menara Maxis:


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/genting/img_0490csm1.jpg

wah sze ur lens zoom can go up to how many times?

wah sze ur lens zoom can go up to how many times?


Actually my zoom lens can go up to roughly about 14X (I dunno cos I am using an SLR and we dun measure by 'how many times zoom'). Technically mine is at 470mm telephoto. ;)

The picture above is actually a digitally enhanced picture the one below:


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/genting/img_0490sm.jpg


^^^ This picture is the maximum optical zoom my lens would take.......and because of the low noise level of my CCD and since I uses the max 6.3 megapixels resolution; I could still crop and enhanced the favourable part :D

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: My gosh... that's SUPERB man!!!

haha...thanks man! :D You come to KL you belanja me minum hahaha (you're lucky I am not an alchoholic!) :lol:

ANyway you should tell me first mah......I was about to do a better pano....better than the one on the first page......well.....anyway I'll post it once it sudah siap ;)

Hahaha~ I'll buy you some beer that's non-alcoholic then, like root "beer", kekekekeke :D:D

Occasional drink is healthy la~ :)

wah!really nice tele lense u hv!470mm!!!would love to hv one ler......

:aplause: Very very nice pics..too bad i have no KL skyline pic which view from hill to share with u all:(

haha...thanks man! :D You come to KL you belanja me minum hahaha (you're lucky I am not an alchoholic!) :lol:

ANyway you should tell me first mah......I was about to do a better pano....better than the one on the first page......well.....anyway I'll post it once it sudah siap ;)

Wei, where is the best pano that you said you were gonna post? Can't wait liao :D:D

Wei, where is the best pano that you said you were gonna post? Can't wait liao :D:D


Here lah...here lah! :D

ANyway I dunno if any of ya have seen this before? :?


http://ftp.maxis.net.my/szehoong/pix/kuala lumpur/skyline fr little genting/pano27-8-2004modsm.jpg

wahHlauu~ superbb!! :okay::okay: i like the lens flare effects

wa lau~ thank you so much la~ I love that view more than my girlfriend, man~ :D:D

wah.very nice.Sadly imes square wasn't litten.wat time was it then?Go up te ill and take again during new year's eve Sze!Confirm very choon wan

andy lim also took this! There are more hi-rises surrounding the city than the ones in the city! :eek:
http://www.andylim.com/gallery/albums/Selangor/Natural_vs_Concrete_Jungle2.jpg

Wow, i like that last pix... Reminds me of some hiking trip overseas...

Where was that view taken?

IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!

From Genting Highlands by TV SMITH:

http://www.mycen.com.my/picturestory/pics/earth.jpg

^^^ Why are some people so lucky with all the clear skies :D

by tony

http://tonyjsp.cool.ne.jp/gallery/genting/picture/genting-014.jpg

http://tonyjsp.cool.ne.jp/gallery/genting/picture/genting-015.jpg

OMG!!! can see KL's lights from there!!!!:eek:

Sliding through the air with Genting cable car to get a view!

by irvan

http://www.pbase.com/image/15051895.jpg

Amazing view! The sky must have been wonderfully clear that night!
http://tonyjsp.cool.ne.jp/gallery/genting/picture/genting-015.jpg

From Genting Highlands by TV SMITH:

http://www.mycen.com.my/picturestory/pics/earth.jpg

^^^ Why are some people so lucky with all the clear skies :D


hmmmm :sly: could anyone see the pic I posted? ^^^ :?

It is even clearer than Tony's picture posted by Nazrey ;)

If still can't see then click here: http://www.mycen.com.my/picturestory/pics/earth.jpg

could anyone see the pic I posted? ^^^

I couldn't see it!!

From Genting Highlands by TV SMITH:

http://www.mycen.com.my/picturestory/pics/earth.jpg

^^^ Why are some people so lucky with all the clear skies :D


So why are you don't take a picture like tony at night instead just like this ..it's pretty for sure or maybe yoo've did it!? let POST!

hmmmm :sly: could anyone see the pic I posted? ^^^ :?

It is even clearer than Tony's picture posted by Nazrey ;)

If still can't see then click here: http://www.mycen.com.my/picturestory/pics/earth.jpg

wow!! that even nicer!!:D:D

wa lau~ thank you so much la~ I love that view more than my girlfriend, man~ :D:D
just don't let her hear that! :D :runaway:

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~goh.andrew/kl3.jpg

nice pic, buck!!

too bad overexposed:(

I can't c any things in that pic..hehehe...honestly:D..but great search...

Any hill in KL which can go up to take pic at night like Little Genting??? (must have great view ya)::D

I can't c any things in that pic..hehehe...honestly:D..but great search...

Any hill in KL which can go up to take pic at night like Little Genting??? (must have great view ya)::D

you see lah, buck, your computer screen too dark liao lah:D

Today's header! Viewed from Genting!
http://207.44.228.232/images/PIX/forumheaders/25.jpg

Superb!! :)

OMG!!!

So somebody can see from those Space Shot (above) too.

http://www.pbase.com/reddevil7/image/41647279.jpg

Space Shot is a rapid vertical ascent and descent amusement ride. It lifts up to 12 people into the air, providing an exciting G-force on the way up and a feeling of weightlessness on the way down. Passengers are also able to take in the scenery around them on the way up, as this ride is an open-air ride. Strapped onto seats, four to a side of the tower, the starting sequence cannot be initiated until all passengers are safely secured to their seats. Minimum Height Requirement: 137cm (4.6 feet)

http://www.pbase.com/reddevil7/image/41647287.jpg

love that banner!!

that space shot must be the best ride in Genting :okay: when i was there 2 yrs ago, it was too misty to see anything. can't even see the ground

hehe can feel your life still stucked up there after the drop!

hehe can feel your life still stucked up there after the drop!

ha ha..yeah!! i heard many people say that;)

coooooooooool banner...............i like that white mist hanging low over the skyscrapers and hills........

So somebody can see from those Space Shot (above) too.

I don't think so..
It was too misty when i try that Space Shot..and i feel like i'm in heaven..hahhahaha
Most of the ppl will forget about the skyline..especially far skyline, KL..because..everybody was so nervous about when will it drop...:D

Today's header! Viewed from Genting!
http://207.44.228.232/images/PIX/forumheaders/25.jpg
Wow, that is one heck of a beautiful shot, man! Where to get that pix?

I don't think so..
It was too misty when i try that Space Shot..and i feel like i'm in heaven..hahhahaha
Most of the ppl will forget about the skyline..especially far skyline, KL..because..everybody was so nervous about when will it drop...:D

Agee,but merely in the clear sky...maybe can see for somone who cares what . :)

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6198/21293mq.jpg

that's superb!!!!!

http://english.people.com.cn/200508/11/images/0810_C22.jpg[IMG]
[IMG]http://english.people.com.cn/200508/11/images/0810_C20.jpg[IMG]
[IMG]http://english.people.com.cn/200508/11/images/0810_C18.jpg

^^ Wrong thread! Please post anything and everything on the haze here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=244306

http://www.nst.com.my/Gallery/200603008.jpg?display=small

SIGHT FOR SORE EYES: KL Tower and the Petronas Twin Towers
photographed from Bukit Semenyih by NST Online reader Izuddin.

from little genting

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/77/skyline242vs.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7094/skyline292cf.jpg
^^ both are 1 year old pics :D