Am I to understand that I have to change my User CP myself so that daylight savings kicks in on the board?

(This really is just a test message to see what time is posted. Sorry).

love it!!
now i can see daylight after work!!! woohoo

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lucky you. Once again our premiere is ignorant and wont bother raising the issue. Yay for delayed tv coverage etc and a definate double yay for being woken up by daylight before 5am.

Well only two days into it and it's pissing me off. I sit at the computer, thinking it's about dinner time and I look up and it's 8:30! Before I know it the night is over and it's time to go to bed - and it's only just got dark!

But at least I get to see Idol live :D

Delayed Australian Idol is bad. The dickhead hosts tell ya you still have time to vote when they should be saying the lines are closed in Qld SA etc

Hey, I just noticed that Foxtel Digital transmitts SBS as per Sydney time (EDST) in Brisbane ie: What ever is on in Sydney at 6.00pm is also on in Brisbane at 5.00pm on foxtel digital SBS. But the normal Free to Air SBS is the delayed transmission.

And another thing I like about not having DST, although I think QLD or SEQ should have it, is that Star Trek on TV1 is on at a more decent hour now instead of 11.30pm or Midnight.

Well I hate not having it. I was in Sydney on the weekend and lost an hour on Sunday Morning only to gain on the way home on Sunday afternoon. This morning I woke up at 5:15 because it was so light, I freaked out and thought I was running late for work.

There was so much discussion about it in Sydney and most people couldnt believe we still didnt have it in Qld as everyone agreed that if any state should have it, it should be queensland because of our lifestyle.

I don't know about you but most people I know in Queensland can't wait for the sun to go down during summer, because it means relief from the scortching heat.

Besides, Summer Nights with a gentle sea breeze are one of the best things about summer.

The only reason I think Queensland (well at least SE QLD) should have it is because Sydney and Melbourne have it. Other than that I don't think we need it.

Queensland doesn't need it. I hate always hearing Queenslanders say that we should bring in Daylight Savings for SEQ, just because the Gold Coast has problems with the Tweed having Daylight Savings. Here's a solution that would affect fewer people: Keep the Tweed on normal time. Queensland does not NEED Daylight Savings, so why should 2 thirds of Queenslanders have to have it, just because 50,000 New South Welshmen do have daylight savings. Here is another solution: Move the bloody border south at least to Byron Bay.

Here is another solution: Move the bloody border south at least to Byron Bay.
Right... then the hippies in Byron Bay and those in Murwillimbah will start whinging...

^Mental Note: Make sure Nimbin stays in New South Wales

Queensland is weird-YOU HAVE THE BEST CLIMATE FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS-we love the hot weather down here and make the most of it, but you should too-imagine eating dinner at 9pm or 10pm like us Southerners rather than at 6-7 or 8pm because the sun sets at 6.

You should really consider implimenting daylight savings, you won't regret it.

here we are gettin winternow so i gotmy self an hour extra to sleep ;) i just love it

Queensland is weird-YOU HAVE THE BEST CLIMATE FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS-we love the hot weather down here and make the most of it, but you should too-imagine eating dinner at 9pm or 10pm like us Southerners rather than at 6-7 or 8pm because the sun sets at 6.

You should really consider implimenting daylight savings, you won't regret it.

I've been in Victoria for over a year now - your so called "summer" is a joke. It was winter up until December, I went home for 3 weeks and when I came back, it was cold again. Everybody told me it was hot while I was away.. I'm only taking their word for it. I think there were about 3 (isolated) days after that where the temp was over 35.

So the fact that you "love the hot weather" when you have, at most, 4 weeks of it - Queensland has about 5 months of it. And it's humid too, something else you don't get in Victoria. Very sticky and uncomfortable. Sure, it's ok in the day, but you want relief at night time. Nothing better than sitting by a beach in the moonlight with a nice gentle breeze, or even better - a thunderstorm! (One of the best things about Queensland Summers).

And eating dinner at 9 or 10pm isn't attractive at all to me. I start work at 7:30am - if I was having dinner that late I'd get about 5 hours sleep. I'm assuming you are a uni student or the like, or don't have a very demanding job to make a statement like that. I like to be in bed between 9:30/10pm and it's only just got dark in the middle of summer.

I can't believe it's November and people are wearing jumpers to work. Absolutely ridiculous.

I can't wait to leave Victoria next year when I get posted to a non-daylight saving state. (Chances are very high, thankfuly).

Daylight Savings has a lot to answer for. It is the biggest nonevent in history, every year. It is the source of 10 times more mundane, boring, fruitless discussion than the distantly second placed politics. How many times do I have to sit on the train and hear some pleb remark to their friend about the trauma of changing the clock, the effect on their sleeping patterns, the fact that it's sunny when they get home form work. No shit sherlock, you had the same stunning revelation last year.

I'll admit we had a cool summer last year-it was the COOLEST FOR 12 YEARS

here are the temps for Melbourne in a normal January

JANUARY 2001-
1/1/01 34.3
2/1/01 37.5
3/1/01 30.9
4/1/01 37.8
5/1/01 22.6
6/1/01 23.7
7/1/01 24.7
8/1/01 26.1
9/1/01 29.1
10/1/01 35.1
11/1/01 40.7
12/1/01 22.9
13/1/01 31.5
14/1/01 36.4
15/1/01 22.4
16/1/01 21.2
17/1/01 23.5
18/1/01 26.1
19/1/01 35.0
20/1/01 35.9
21/1/01 24.6
22/1/01 31.6
23/1/01 26.5
24/1/01 30.2
25/1/01 33.6
26/1/01 30.3
27/1/01 27.4
28/1/01 24.9
29/1/01 26.4
30/1/01 23.1

Last year we were under the influence of increased sea temps in the Indian ocean which directed cool SW winds over the state for much of January resulting in spring like temps of 20-25 degrees. One in 12 year pattern.

Currently Victoria is experiencing cool temps from once again low troughs developming in Western Australia and are being blown by a strong jet stream in a SE direction over eastern Australia. This is causing the cool rainy weather which we are experiencing this week. This jet stream is a one in 3 year pattern.

There is a 60-70% chance of Victoria exeeding day time maxes over this summer.

I agree that in comparing Melbourne's weather to the rest of Australia it is dissmal, but a more relative and true comparision is by taking cities at the same distance from the equator and comapring their weather to that of Melbourne.

Cities such as

San Francisco, Washington DC, Athens and Palermo in Italy are all roughly the same distance from the equator. When doing this it can be clearly seen that the HEAT of Australia does impact on Melbourne as does the heat of the Sahara on both Athens and Palermo. But both Washington and SF experience cooler more temperate weather, SF being mild and sunny in summer and cool wet and foggy in winter.

Washington is cold/very cold in winter with snow and humid in summer.

Both Palermo and Athens experience much cooler winters than Melbourne and the summers are comparable.

Therefore our weather is not extremely cold nor overly hot, it is a warm temperate climate with rain all year round. It cannot be compared to sub-tropical climates and hence people from sub-tropical areas cannot expect a 5 month summer at this distance from the equator.

Well I am aware that there are worse places in the world than Melbourne, and I don't expect a five month summer (3 months would be nice though).

You cannot compare QLD's hot weather to Victoria's. QLD is normally mid or high 30s every day for five months, with humidity over 80%. Victoria gets 40 degrees for one or two days at a time, followed by a cool day in the 20s.

There is no need to make the most of the hot weather in Queensland - there is no shortage of it. It's warm enough to go swiming 7 or 8 months of the year. Alfresco dining is all year round - and you can (I always did) wear shorts all year round. Very rarely wore a jumper.

So I don't think Brisbane has the perfect climate for daylight savings. It may work in Victoria and NSW, but Queensland already tried it in the early 90s and the majority of people didn't like it, hence why we don't have it now.

Fair enough point taken-my opinion comes from a Victorian stance where it is only warm for a few months of a year and sunny during those months-hence the reason for the southern states opting for daylight savings. You make a valid point.

Well I'd love to see daylight saving in South East Qld -- even if only because there's nothing sillier than being woken up by birds singing at four in the morning...

In Brisbane, at the height of summer it gets light about 4 and fully dark by 7:30. The middle of the day is around 11:40am. Being so far east, our day is earlier than in all the other capitals. Ideally, according to longitude, Brisbane's clock should always be ahead of Syd or Melb (for the same reason, DS would be less desirable in the north / west of the state).

Surely people could adapt to a bit of extra light in the evening....?

There is no need to make the most of the hot weather in Queensland - there is no shortage of it. It's warm enough to go swiming 7 or 8 months of the year. Alfresco dining is all year round - and you can (I always did) wear shorts all year round. Very rarely wore a jumper.

I'd agree with you there with most of the stuff, but I can assure you that even though Brisbane does not get true winters, I know for a fact that it is cold when you've been out till late at night on a cold July night and it is only about 6 degrees celcius. That is pretty cold, even for winter.... A Jumper and long pants comes in handy then.............

Back to Daylight Savings, I reckon QLD or SEQ should reintroduce it

never want daylight saving. ever.

I'd agree with you there with most of the stuff, but I can assure you that even though Brisbane does not get true winters, I know for a fact that it is cold when you've been out till late at night on a cold July night and it is only about 6 degrees celcius. That is pretty cold, even for winter.... A Jumper and long pants comes in handy then.............

Back to Daylight Savings, I reckon QLD or SEQ should reintroduce it

It's cold relative to what Brisbane normally gets. A 6 degree night in sale is fairly warm. Don't even bother putting the heater on for that.

Talk to me when it's minus 2 at 8am.

I read that offering Queensland Daylight Savings is like questioning the state's manhood!

Personally not having DS there bugged me when I lived there - and I love it here - very cool, Melbourne being where it is the sun has been staying up till around 7:30 already!

Seriously though - if only for business purposes - Bris/Syd/Melb should always be in the same timezone.

Qld doesnt get twilight that lingers on forever and with daylight saving it would be dark round 8:30pm unlike in Melbourne where itd still be bright and sunny.

Beattie is a complete dickhead I reckon. Just do it mate and get over your stupid "my state vs your state" shit. QLD is missing out on business opportunities and a massive lifestyle gain because of it. You QLDers dont know what youre missing out on. Right now it is 7.15 pm in SYD and there's heaps of people still walking around with their families in my suburb loving the weather instead of going inside to watch TV. It is brilliant for lifestyle !

7:30 pm Melbourne, Sun is up still, can't say it ever stayed up this late in Brisbane!

Talk to me when it's minus 2 at 8am.

No wonder why you want to leave !!

why dont the southern states get rid of it. Its stupid. why would u adjust the time...
how many clocks automatically compensate also?

im one lazy ass so if i had to manually change ALL my clocks id be angry..

Its too much effort. time is time.

We look forward to it all year long. Longer days, the place buzzes, and not only because we have a cold winter and wet spring, it's because it's constant sunshine into the evening with a long twilight-at 10 pm there is still brightness in western sky, people are still at the beach until 8-9pm, in the water along the promenade, sunbaking.....

Then as 11pm comes around the city is buzzing with people eating out, going clubbing, and people who just left the beach to get changed to go out, it's pumping. It's an endless party..beach all day til 9ish-change then go out.....what summer is all about.

^^^^ oh shoosh....

Dyalight savings sux!

im divided. You people have put ur case quite well...

But still, changing the time is just stupid.

Those who want it should just get up an hour early. Meanwhile I'm now forced to start work at 6:30. Absolutely ridiculous.

Not to mention all the pubs now close an hour earlier.

When you set your clock for daylight savings, all you're doing is changing the timezone. Just like jetlag, but without you doing any physical movement. Research says that it takes one day for your body to adjust for one hour's change in time.

Going by your logic... if I had a holiday in London, I'd be saying that everything opened ten hours late.

Well sorry, but no. It's all to do with the position of the sun at noon. The sun is overhead London about 10 hours later than Eastern Australia. It's called Local Mean Time (or LMT) which is calculated one hour per fifteen degrees of longitude.

Ie- the 150 degree meridian passes through Eastern QLD and NSW and is the point where the Local Mean Time is equal to the GMT -10 Timezone. That is, at 12 noon the sun is directly overhead. The sun will rise and set at somewhat equal periods on either side of this time.

Anything to the east of the meridian is rising and setting earlier, anything to the west is later.

With daylight savings you are saying that when the sun is directly overhead, it is 1pm, and the sun will rise and set one hour later.

So by my logic, yes, things are happening one hour earlier. By going to London, relative to it's local time, things are happening quite the same way. It has nothing to do with your internal body clock.

For Info:
Brisbane AEST +13 Minutes
Sydney AEST +4 Minutes
Canberra AEST -4 Minutes
Hobart AEST -11 Minutes
Melbourne AEST -20 Minutes
Adelaide ACST -16 Minutes
Darwin ACST -47 Minutes
Perth AWST -17 Minutes

why dont the southern states get rid of it. Its stupid. why would u adjust the time...
how many clocks automatically compensate also?

im one lazy ass so if i had to manually change ALL my clocks id be angry..

Its too much effort. time is time.

As if it's stupid. It's not a bad initative especially given the fact we are an outdoor orientated society. You will gain more from it than not having it. It's good lifestyle wise, as there is more opportunity for recreation (especially after work).

Also the coolest part of the day happens to be at sunrise. By making the sun rise later, you can wake up and enjoy the coolness of the morning before it heats up (plus getting much needed sleep in the dark).

To add to this, Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore wants Daylight saving to commence in early October like in Tasmania.

perfect in SE QLD but the rest of the state would whinge about fading curtains and cows that dont milk. I know ppl from MT Isa that hated it and I tried to tell him that the sun goes down alot later in Europe and ppl have no probs getting kids to sleeps.

To add to this, Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore wants Daylight saving to commence in early October like in Tasmania.

Well, Tasmania was the first state to have daylight savings (apart from the war years). Now NSW, Vic, ACT and SA have followed our lead, and some of the others have at least had a go. It's fantastic when it is light until 9.30pm :)