i just first got my digital camera here, brand new, these were the first pics taken of lovely JAX!
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0012.jpg http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0013.jpg http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0014.jpg http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0015.jpg
good morning jacksonville
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0016.jpg http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0017.jpg http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/jax/HPIM0018.jpg

this is just part 1 as i toured alot of cities in the south this summer including charlotte, atl, bham, and more...

Great pics balinboi, Jax's skyline is really beautiful and underrated!

jax is uglier than i thought

ya, jax really is pretty ugly, maybe its just these pics or something, but thats pretty bad, w.e, they got some great stuff goin up, theyre gonna b amazing in a few years... but never gonna b miami! haha! sry, the truth hurts

^^lol stop hating, its not that bad, those pics were ameatur pics taken by me when i first got my camera,

it has a pretty decent skyline and will be hott in a few years,

uptown and nimby, you two hate way TOO much!

jax is uglier than i thought

Beauty is the eye of the beholder.........

ya, jax really is pretty ugly, maybe its just these pics or something, but thats pretty bad, w.e, they got some great stuff goin up, theyre gonna b amazing in a few years... but never gonna b miami! haha! sry, the truth hurts

Sorry, we're have no intentions of becoming another Miami, Tampa, or Orlando. All the other metros may have passed us by in size, but we still have a decent sized historical core and like wine, we'll only get better with age.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Spartanburger/Jacksonville/cityJacksonvilleFL_jaxfullmoon.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/beau_d/image/23775122.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Jax%20Beach/boardwalk-south.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Jacksonville/smtc-2.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Jacksonville/smtc-5.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Jacksonville/Riverside/villa-riva.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/thebarnett.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/omni-wachovia.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/boa.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/city-hall.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/over-adams-street.jpg

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/federal-courthouse.jpg

uptown and nimby, you two hate way TOO much!..it's getting repulsive!

im not hatin im just sayin jax looks like miami in the '70's cause it looks old and dingy and that they need more modern buildings

hey im sorry lakelander hadn't seen your pics looks better than miaballinboi, the building look better at night when you can hardly see them... haha..jk... but you guys stole our illuminated highway, and also if dats dt. jax. then i shouldn't be able to count how many buildings there are with the fingers of my hands also thats the gayest light rail i ever seen,furthermore you might be asking why i hate jax so much well its that they consider themselves the largest city in florida which is the most b.s. i ever heard,lets see miami is 36 miles square and has 376,815 people compared to jax which is 1,965 square miles and has a population of 773,781. if miami were 1,965 miles our population would be over 20 million.while if jax was 36 miles it would only have 14,000 people which is smaller than my 33127 zip code which has 15000+ people.

^The hell with modern buildings, we have several on their way. However, the best thing happening around here is the large amount of historical mid and highrises being preserved, thus making Jax a truley unique and architectural diverse city in state.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/thelakelander/Jacksonville-Carlington/Carlington6-11-04016.jpg

oh please that just what people say when they know they i ain't got modern new structures or anything breathtaking a.k.a jacksonville

hey im sorry lakelander hadn't seen your pics looks better than miaballinboi, the building look better at night when you can hardly see them... haha..jk... but you guys stole our illuminated highway, and also if dats dt. jax. then i shouldn't be able to count how many buildings there are with the fingers of my hands also thats the gayest light rail i ever seen,furthermore you might be asking why i hate jax so much well its that they consider themselves the largest city in florida which is the most b.s. i ever heard,lets see miami is 36 miles square and has 376,815 people compared to jax which is 1,965 square miles and has a population of 773,781. if miami were 1,965 miles our population would be over 20 million.while if jax was 36 miles it would only have 14,000 people which is smaller than my 33127 zip code which has 15000+ people.

How did we still you're illuminated highway? I didn't know Miami was the first city ever to have them. BTW, 3 more of our downtown bridges are currently having lights installed on them. We'll know that I think of it, we are the only large Florida metro to have a couple of kick ass steel truss bridges.

http://www.jacksonville.com/images/040204/26871_400.jpg

http://www.jacksonville.com/images/040204/26872_400.jpg

http://www.jacksonville.com/images/040204/26876_400.jpg

We also don't have light rail, its a people mover system, similar to downtown Miami's metromover system. Still, its a great thing to have considering this is a metro of only 1.3 million people. How many similar sized places in the US have rail systems?

BTW, you shouldn't lose much sleep over Jax being a consolidated city. Nobody else does. Its clearly for taxation purposes and to streamline the local government. Nobody here cares about childish city limit population statistics. IMO, it would be a good idea, if Florida's other large cities followed Jax's example.

One last thing, If Jax were only 36 sq miles, it would probably be somewhere around 150,000 - 160,000 people or roughly the same size as Fort Lauderdale.

oh please that just what people say when they know they i ain't got modern new structures or anything breathtaking a.k.a jacksonville

You seem to be a very young fellow and new to the world of urban design. As you grow older, you will learn to value historical buildings, landscapes, and the things that they can do for an urban city. You should try taking a trip to New Orleans, Savannah, or Charleston. These are three great beautiful southern cities that kick ass, despite not have many, if any modern towers.

BTW, these twin 750ft tall towers is one of our new developments on the way. Are these modern enough for your liking?
http://www.jacksonville.com/images/032504/hm_towers400.jpg

How about this twin midrise infill office project scheduled to break ground early next year.
http://www.jacksonville.com/images/011404/19901_400.jpg

How about this planned 31 story office/condo addition?
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/urbanjax7816/Scans/jea.jpg

We may not be seeing the skyscraper growth of South Florida, but we do have a nice amount of things going on.

do you know how 2 do math 773781 divided by 1965=393 people per mile now times 36=14176 pop. also miami also used to be that large in square miles but then you notice its impossible to have enough police,fire dept, and other services to control 1965miles of a city, and areas like to incorperate themselves to have the own city laws and ordinances. jax may be 1965 sq miles now but in like 10 years i doubt it'll still be that size. and whether its a peoplemover system or not that train cant possible hold more than 10 people at a time.and looking at it again it still looks gay

I don't know why I'm still replying, but you're comments are pretty funny so I'll respond. You don't need to do much math when looking at a consolidated city like Jax. Do you really believe every square inch of the city has an equal amount of people? I don't know if you ever been here, but clearly most of Duval County is still uninhabited, marshland, and rural. Another easy statistic to find is Jax's population numbers before its consolidation in 1968. At the time of consolidation, the 30 square mile city had a population of 205,000, which equals out to a density of nearly 7,000 people per square mile. That this "suburban" city most have an urban core. That urban core, although not as dense as it was years ago, still has a population density far above 393 people per mile. BTW, now that I think of it, my apartment complex has twice as many people as the density you think every inch of the city is.

FYI, those gay 2-car skyway trains can carry up to 56 people each.

i was baseing wat i said on the miabol's pics, seeing these, jax is alot nicer than i tought, but still not comparable, ur much more historic, southern, old skol, and conisderably smaller... alotta people like that better, and u got some really nice things goin on downtown that will make it great in a few years, but as far as skyline goes, this citys got a lotta work to do, but i think downtown atmosphere in general, urs is better, but miami gettin alot better and in a few years will be one of the best in the country, untill then...

like i said, its a matter of choice, i would rather take the miami type city over jax, but to each their own, downtown is alot nicer than i thought it was tho... ill give u that and take bak wat i said b4

im with uptown about the population thing, it does really tick me off, cause to the ignorant viewer, makes jox seem bigger than miami, but not something that we can blame u for, just the way it is, wont b that way for long tho wit the number of condos goin up in miami

and ur "people mover system" is pretty fruity, isnt really enough of a system to accomplish anything, wat are the ridership numbers on it?

This thread was never intended to become a comparision or competition thread. You guys are starting to turn this Florida forum into another rediculous Southeast forum. Its okay to like Miami, Clewiston or any other city better, but leave that competitive stuff for another thread.

im with uptown about the population thing, it does really tick me off, cause to the ignorant viewer, makes jox seem bigger than miami, but not something that we can blame u for, just the way it is, wont b that way for long tho wit the number of condos goin up in miami

Despite, the large construction boom going on in Miami, in reality, its city population will never catch Jacksonville's, unless the city consolidates with Miami-Dade County, which will be pretty difficult to do, due to the numerous amount of established municipalities already there. Jax/Duval just has too much land in its boundaries and its growing also. Anyway, who cares, outside of Dade County,........everyone knows South Florida is and will always be the largest metro in Florida.

and ur "people mover system" is pretty fruity, isnt really enough of a system to accomplish anything, wat are the ridership numbers on it?

Its no fruitier than Miami's metromover or Detroit's people mover. They're all basically the same system. The only reason metromover has been more successful is the fact that it ties into the metrorail and tri-rail systems. The Skyway's ridership numbers will continue to grow as more residents move downtown and the new BRT and streetcar systems tie into it in the future.

This just in: 12 year olds don't like Jacksonville. And they can't type, either. :cheers:

^ come on quit it guys,

in plain terms my pics were crappy, i snapped them quick from a interstate goin 70 miles, and it was my first turn

Jax is a very nice city amazing view and bridges when your there in person and travelling and the skyline,

Drop the B.S. everyone, i dont want a topic i started to cause trouble or get locked, or else i just wont share any more pics if this is what happens

drop it

uptown-midtown, what are you trying to accomplish by ragging on jax? seriously, reading your posts it seems like you have a personal axe to grind or something. give jax its props, there's a lot of good going on there.

don't worry so much about what other cities are doing, especially in-state cities. florida people should stick together.

remember this: it's very possible that miami's current good fortune could dry up within a few years & we won't see much of anything built for a # of years. then what are you gonna say? just count your blessings that miami, along with the rest of florida, is fortunate enough to be going through the current boom.

don't mean to lecture you, man, but i just don't understand where you're going with all this.

wait the fuck up you little punkass bitch jfdickupurmouthjax first of all im not 12 second jax suxs everyone in florida knows the most important cities go as follow
1.miami
2.tampa
3.orlando
4.jaxsuckadick
5.ftl or daytona beach or sarasota
and lakelander im i suppose to be impressed with 3 little projects i can give you a list of over 50 for miami

also when i said that jax stole our illuminated highway they did because dt miami has had that illuminated bridge since the metrorail was built and was signature for many years

wait the fuck up you little punkass bitch jfdickupurmouthjax

good one!

are you trying to be sarcastic

ok this is the last thing i'll probably say on this thread jax i congrat. you for keeping you historic side while adding a hint of modern to it ,i myself im not one of those people who likes historic im more of a modernistic type of person thats why i would prefer miami over jax, but also miami has some historic in it to freedom tower,biltmore, lyric theater and so on when picking miami or jax u first have to decide whether you like historic(jax) or modern (miami).

one thing i do want to say is that the people mover system car in jax is one ugly thing

and furthermore if i knew how to put an image on this forum i would,it would show miami's illuminated metrorail line passing dt miami which was one of the first, now whether jax stole dat idea idk since many cities now use this illumination

p.s. lakelander give me some info on those twin towers of 750 ft.

also do you think it was a good idea to build the arena and the baseball stadium although jax doesn't have that many sports teams,from my prospective the money should of gone to other things,but it is good to look towards the future,iwish we here in miami did that we always wait to long to do some things (marlins stadium)

then i would also like to say i like the bridge you posted i've always said that miami needs an iconic bridge before and iconic tower but of course miami is always late.

ill give credit where credit is due, and i gotta give jax their props, great, historic small city

but im wit uptown, more of a modernist, and i prefer miami, in architecture, size, importance, and just plain overall, just a matter of opinion, and i think i shouldnt talk abymore untill i actually get a chance to visit jax so lest just drop this aite guys?

wtf....how did this turn from a "just-a few-pics-of-jacksonvile" thread into a jax vs miami thread!

^^ i have no clue,

lets end it here.

THE END

one thing i do want to say is that the people mover system car in jax is one ugly thing

Too me it looks like a modern version of Miami's metromover. Its definately not the best system out there, but its better than nothing, which is more than a lot of larger and similar sized places can say.

p.s. lakelander give me some info on those twin towers of 750 ft.

here's a little information on the twin Riverpointe Towers development:

Developer: Krook Douglas Development (Boynton Beach)
No. of stories: (2) 48 story towers
Height: 619ft (rooftop), 750ft (spires)
Amenities: riverwalk extension, 65,000sf retail, 10 story parking garage
No. of residential units: 550
Starting prices: $150k - $170k
Estimated construction costs: $100 million
Proposed construction date: Summer 2005

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/032504/bus_towers.shtml

also do you think it was a good idea to build the arena and the baseball stadium although jax doesn't have that many sports teams,from my prospective the money should of gone to other things,but it is good to look towards the future,iwish we here in miami did that we always wait to long to do some things (marlins stadium)

I think the decision to build the new facilities was a great idea. Jax has no intentions of going after anymore professional sports franchises. These new sports facilities were build to replace a couple of older sports complexes. These complexes are also helping the city become a prime NCAA sports host city. They were funded by the Better Jax Plan, which is probably one of the best public works programs ever passed in the country in recent years.

Another thing is, these public projects and others, being financed by the "BJP", like the courthouse and the main library, have been successful in stimulating private development and raising land values in depressed areas of downtown.

ok this is the last thing i'll probably say on this thread jax i congrat. you for keeping you historic side while adding a hint of modern to it ,i myself im not one of those people who likes historic im more of a modernistic type of person thats why i would prefer miami over jax, but also miami has some historic in it to freedom tower,biltmore, lyric theater and so on when picking miami or jax u first have to decide whether you like historic(jax) or modern (miami).

one thing i do want to say is that the people mover system car in jax is one ugly thing

and furthermore if i knew how to put an image on this forum i would,it would show miami's illuminated metrorail line passing dt miami which was one of the first, now whether jax stole dat idea idk since many cities now use this illumination

p.s. lakelander give me some info on those twin towers of 750 ft.

also do you think it was a good idea to build the arena and the baseball stadium although jax doesn't have that many sports teams,from my prospective the money should of gone to other things,but it is good to look towards the future,iwish we here in miami did that we always wait to long to do some things (marlins stadium)

then i would also like to say i like the bridge you posted i've always said that miami needs an iconic bridge before and iconic tower but of course miami is always late.

not trying to be rude, but your posts are hard to follow if you don't use punctuation..

JAX is a wonderful city with one of the best public works projects in the country and a maturing skyline as well as street scene.

Lets keep the pics coming!

First of all, to the people who came on this thread to rag on Jax, just a little advice: Don't judge a city by a couple of pics. Jax has a nice skyline, esp when viewed from any one of the city's bridges. Secondly, Jax and Mia are totally different cities and shouldn't be judged and compared by the same standards. We all know that the Mia AREA is Much larger and cosmopolitan than Jax's....so what. Any place that's that big will be having a lot going on. Besides, it's not Jax's problem if Miami can't get all those various municipalities to come together and consolidate into a larger city proper. Jax doesn't need to be a big city to accomplish things, anyway. We have an enviable business environment, LOTS of parks, and the people who live in Jax, as a whole, really seem to love it and have a very optimistic attitude of the city. That's not the case with every city.

Also, when it comes to architecture, I like both old, historic buildings and new, modern buildings equally. What is really cool is if a city has a nice mix of both, which jax does. An ornate, patinaed, old building looks great contrasted against a new, glassy building.

Finally, why would someone come post comments full of name-calling, dissing, and profanity in an otherwise friendly forum? We all have opinions, negative and positive, but if you have something to say, say something constructive and show a little class.

You may not be 12, uptown-midtown, but I would consider you an insult to whatever age group you belong to (especially if it IS above 12!) Is this really how you want to present yourself on a forum you're interested in? You're lucky I'm not reacting how most people would to your childish name-calling. Be warned: I won't stand for it a second time.

wait the fuck up you little punkass bitch jfdickupurmouthjax first of all im not 12 second jax suxs everyone in florida knows the most important cities go as follow
1.miami
2.tampa
3.orlando
4.jaxsuckadick
5.ftl or daytona beach or sarasota
and lakelander im i suppose to be impressed with 3 little projects i can give you a list of over 50 for miami



To the rest of you, so what if a troll doesn't like City X? Let a man hate what he wants to. A troll is still a troll, and that's what should be acknowledged here.

ok i really don't want to be rude but you're really starting to annoy me.i said this was over but yet you continue and you actually tell me you wont stand for being insulted. really what can you do about it, are you going to kick my ass ,well you can't. i'm a nice guy,but now you're threatening me so i ask you to please let this go before i insult you again and you "supposedly" do something about it.and why i'm i lucky that you're not reacting like most people,i actually find it hilarious when people insult other people it makes it intresting.

whoa i made fun of you're name get over it, because you're starting to act childish.

i think i'll insult myself now uptown-dicktown,suckmedicktown,analtown.
you happy now.

these threads are getting real juvenile and are becoming a waste of time. If you don't have anything meaningful to contribute in terms of projects, why dont you go to yahoo chat and talk stupid your crap there?

serious unless you have something to contribute stop wasting everyones time