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hopeoneday January 24th, 2012, 03:43 PM The Process of Finding A Competence Partner on Public Bus
Monday, 23 Jan 2012 15:41
KINGDOM OF CAMBODIA
Nation Religion King
The Phnom Penh Capital Hall
Phnom Penh, January 23, 2012
ANNOUNCEMENT
The Result of Shortlisted Proposal for Public Transport in Phnom Penh
Reference: - Letter No. 358 សជណ dated on March 24, 2011 of the Council of Ministers.
- Announcement dated on May 24, 2011 of the Capital Hall
- Announcement dated on June 30, 2011 of the Capital Hall
The Capital Hall would like to inform the public that after we had made two announcements to seek for private companies to invest on public transport (City Bus) in Phnom Penh, we received 7 proposals from vairous companies.
After the special working team has conducted detail study on submitted proposals, only 4 companies provided a completed "checked-list" documents required, and those were shortlisted are: Global (Cambodia) Trade Development, Co., Ltd, The City Trans Cambodia, Ashok Leyland Co. Ltd and ABEFIS Co. Ltd.
As part of the plan, the working team will continue conducting its detailed study on the project and coopertively work with those 4 companies in order to select the company which would be considered as the best partner. The Capital hall is looking forward to finding a company with experienced, a strong commitment and full of capability in running this business of public transport successfully.
The Phnom Penh Capital Hall
http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/design/img080-132730804686380.jpg
Announcement 1
http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/design/announcment2452011-130622289576832.jpg
Announcement 2
http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/design/announcement30062011-130948963570278.jpg
StrongAngkor January 25th, 2012, 01:38 AM ^^ it's nice that we will have public bus in the city, but how can we control those existing messy bus, taxi around Central Market. Those look really untidy.
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 04:00 PM Glad to hear that :) Most importantly, the government must design a proper subsidy scheme to encourage more people taking the bus
topmodelhi5 January 25th, 2012, 04:07 PM Great news!
hopeoneday January 25th, 2012, 04:27 PM ^^ it's nice that we will have public bus in the city, but how can we control those existing messy bus, taxi around Central Market. Those look really untidy.
I think they have plan to deal with all those messy car or bus parking along the road but don't know how long it takes to achieve :(
hopeoneday January 25th, 2012, 04:32 PM Glad to hear that :) Most importantly, the government must design a proper subsidy scheme to encourage more people taking the bus
I think it should have many lines to go everywhere in Phnom Penh territory and suburban area around PP and set the minimum price for the poor to access .. Bus is for low n middle class only so price must be low too. 10 years Ago bus operation was failure because it had only few lines and motor dup at that time was the fast n easiest transportation for our people ... I still have a positive view with this plan and also am trusted on our government to achieve this goal. If there is. A bus everywhere and Tram where my office is located , I will sell off my car and take then instead hahaha cos it saves much for me :$
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 04:40 PM I think 1000 riel per ticket is affordable to many of the middle and middle-lower class citizens
hopeoneday January 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM I think 1000 riel per ticket is affordable to many of the middle and middle-lower class citizens
Yes sure.. From my house near santhormok to riverside, it costs me 5000 riel by motordup ... So it is acceptable but make sure that bus road is faster than motordup :) we should make one lane for bus to drive only so there will be fast
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 05:17 PM ^^ It's a rip-off.
But if you know how to speak Khmer, they will charge you less :)
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 05:22 PM It is slower than motortuk, unless there is a designated line dedicated for ''bus'' only
hopeoneday January 25th, 2012, 05:24 PM I am khmer la but what can I do if they charge high ? Bargain? Hmmm no time for bargain if in hurry.
hopeoneday January 25th, 2012, 05:25 PM Yes it is good to have special lane for Bus ... If not, it Still have problem with jam ...
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 05:29 PM Yes, these people always charge high prices and they are doing good businesses
It is always good to drive your own car, and not really necessary to take motortuk given that most people in Phnom Penh have their own motorbikes :)
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 05:30 PM I hope these motortuks can be fully eliminated on the streets one day and these drivers can apply to work as a bus driver :)
SeeMacau January 25th, 2012, 05:33 PM Yes it is good to have special lane for Bus ... If not, it Still have problem with jam ...
Very much impossible, the roads in Phnom Penh are not wide enough, a few of us had a discussion about this previously
AsianDragons January 26th, 2012, 01:06 AM It is slower than motortuk, unless there is a designated line dedicated for ''bus'' only
this the onw of the worst idea in australia it only create congestion since not many buses use it the unions always debate on its usefullness
SeeMacau January 28th, 2012, 07:14 PM Don't worry, I don't think it works in Cambodia, the roads here are not wide enough to create a separate line for buses :)
hopeoneday January 29th, 2012, 07:34 AM Don't worry, I don't think it works in Cambodia, the roads here are not wide enough to create a separate line for buses :)
So in your opinion, bus project will survive in Cambodia?
TheKhmerPride25 January 29th, 2012, 05:00 PM I think the "bus lane only" won't work well, no one follow the law, they all over the place. still much more problem, and yes I think the public bus somehow have to be exist in Cambodia. We are growing up, remember :tongue2: .
SeeMacau February 1st, 2012, 05:59 PM Phnom Penh will get public buses soon or later, the bus line won't be implemented.
hopeoneday February 1st, 2012, 06:12 PM Phnom Penh will get public buses soon or later, the bus line won't be implemented.
People are not used to riding bus that is the obstacle to the project...
SeeMacau February 1st, 2012, 06:19 PM They will get used to it after a few months, just like few people used to wear helmets in the past :)
hopeoneday February 2nd, 2012, 04:32 AM They will get used to it after a few months, just like few people used to wear helmets in the past :)
I hope so too :) but I am still worried about it
hopeoneday February 17th, 2012, 09:54 AM សាលារាជ ធានីភ្នំពេញ នឹងបង្កើត មធ្យោបាយ ដឹកជញ្ជូន សាធារណៈ ក្នុងឆ្នាំ២០១២នេះ
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ភ្នំពេញ៖ ដើម្បីឆ្លើយតប ទៅនឹងកំណើន ប្រជាជនដ៏ឆាប់រហ័ស ក្នុងរាជធានីភ្នំពេញ សាលារាជធានីគ្រោង នឹងរៀបចំឱ្យមានប្រព័ន្ធដឹកជញ្ជូន តាមរថយន្តក្រុង (City Bus) យ៉ាងយូរបំផុត ឆ្នាំ២០១២នេះ ដើម្បីសម្រួលដល់់ការកកស្ទះចរាចរ។
ការបង្កើតមធ្យោបាយ ដឹកជញ្ជូនសាធារណៈនេះ ធ្វើឡើងបន្ទាប់ពីការសិក្សាជំហានដំបូង របស់ក្រុមជំនាញការបារាំង (ក្រុមហ៊ុន Systra) និងធ្វើបទបង្ហាញ ដោយលោក Antoine Chèvre និងលោកស្រី Aurélie Jehanno លើបរិបទនៃការសិក្សាស្រាវជ្រាវ, ស្ថានភាពប្រជាសាស្រ្ត នៅតំបន់ទីប្រជុំជន, ទម្រង់បែបបទប្រព័ន្ធ ហេដ្ឋារចនាសម្ព័ន្ធនៅទីប្រជុំជន និងជម្រើសនៃមធ្យោបាយដឹកជញ្ជូនសាធារណៈបង្ហាញថា តាមសន្ទស្សន៍របស់សក្តានុពល ប្រជាពលរដ្ឋអាចកើនឡើងពីជាង ២លាន ហើយនឹងអាចដល់៣លាននាក់ នៅក្នុងឆ្នាំ២០៣០ខាងមុខ ដែលជាសន្ទស្សន៍ក៏ខ្លាំងមួយគួរឱ្យកត់សម្គាល់។
យោងតាមគេហទំព័រ សាលារាជធានីភ្នំពេញចុះថ្ងៃទី១៧ ខែកុម្ភៈ ឆ្នាំ២០១២នេះបានឱ្យដឹងថា តាមរយៈការបង្ហាញពីភាគីបារាំងបានធ្វើសេចក្តីសន្និដ្ឋានជាបឋមថា រាជធានីភ្នំពេញស្ថិតនៅក្នុងចំណុចរបត់មួយដោយសារមានកំណើនប្រជាជន ការរីកដុះដាល នៃការបំលាស់ទី កំណើនសេដ្ឋកិច្ចមានភាពជឿនលឿន ទើបធ្វើឱ្យចរាចរក្នុងរាជធានីភ្នំពេញ មានភាពស្មុគស្មាញ ដែលជាកត្តាចាំបាច់ត្រូវតែមានប្រព័ន្ធដឹកជញ្ជូនរួមមួយ ឱ្យសមស្របតាមស្ថានភាពនាពេលបច្ចុប្បន្ន។
យោងតាមប្រភពដដែលបានបញ្ជាក់ថា ក្រុមការងារសិក្សាបានផ្តោតពីលទ្ធភាពនៃ ការដាក់ខ្សែរថអាទិភាពលើផ្លូវមួយចំនួនផងដែរ ដែលក្នុងនោះមានផ្លូវមុនីរ៉េត មុនីវង្ស សហព័ន្ធរុស្ស៊ី ផ្លូវជាតិលេខ ៥, ២, ១ និងម្តុំចោមចៅ ដែលជាចំណុចតភ្ជាប់ពីតំបន់ជាយក្រុងមកកណ្តាលទីក្រុង។
ទោះបីជាយ៉ាងនេះក្តី ការអភិវឌ្ឍរបស់រាជធានីភ្នំពេញ បាននឹងកំពុងតែទៅមុខជាបណ្តើរៗ ស្របតាមប្លង់គោលអភិវឌ្ឍន៍របស់រាជធានី ដូចនេះ ចំពោះការដាក់ឱ្យមានខ្សែរថអាទិភាពនោះ ក្រុមការងារសិក្សា បានប្រមើរមើលលើតែផ្លូវណា ដែលមានរចនាសម្ព័ន្ធស្រាប់ប៉ុណ្ណោះ។ ទន្ទឹមនេះដើម្បីបង្កើតឱ្យមានខ្សែរថអាទិភាព ក៏ចាំបាច់ត្រូវឱ្យមាន ប្រព័ន្ធដឹកជញ្ជូនរួមមួយតាមរយៈរថយន្តក្រុង ដើម្បីសម្រួលដល់អ្នកធ្វើដំណើរមួយចំនួនមកពីបណ្តាខេត្ត និងជាយក្រុងផងដែរ។
ជាមួយគ្នានេះ ក្រុមការងារសិក្សា ក៏បានបង្ហាញពីប្រភេទគំរូ រថភ្លើងដើរដោយប្រព័ន្ធ អគ្គិសនីដែលកំពុងប្រើប្រាស់នៅតាមបណ្តាទីក្រុងនានាលើពិភពលោក ហើយលទ្ធភាពខ្ពស់ និងជាមធ្យោបាយដឹកជញ្ជូនមានលក្ខណៈទ្រង់ទ្រាយធំ អាចផ្ទុកអ្នកដំណើរ រហូតដល់ ៦ម៉ឺននាក់ ក្នុងពេលដ៏ឆាប់បំផុត និងតាមទិសដៅផ្សេងៗគ្នា។
ក្នុងគោលដៅសម្រេចផែនការខាងលើឱ្យឆាប់ៗ អភិបាលរាជធានីភ្នំពេញ លោក កែប ជុតិមា បានស្នើឱ្យស្ថាប័នពាក់ព័ន្ធ និងមន្ទីរសំខាន់ៗ ត្រូវសម្របសម្រួលជាមួយ Systra និងជំនាញការ JICA បន្តសិក្សាឱ្យបានល្អិតល្អន់ដើម្បីទទួលបាននូវសេចក្តីសន្និដ្ឋានរួមមួយដែលមានការឯកភាពពីគ្រប់ភាគីពាក់ព័ន្ធទាំងអស់៕
hopeoneday February 20th, 2012, 09:42 AM http://news.sabay.com.kh/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/g.with-systra-1step-14022012-5-132927560787816.jpg
SeeMacau February 21st, 2012, 04:19 PM ^^ What is that? New road network or bus route?
hopeoneday February 21st, 2012, 04:57 PM ^^ What is that? New road network or bus route?
It is bus road
SeeMacau February 21st, 2012, 05:09 PM It would be great if we can see the routes cover under ''Historical Metropolitan Center'' :)
hopeoneday February 22nd, 2012, 02:56 AM Preliminary Study on 1st Priority Public Transport in Phnom Penh Presented
Friday, 17 Feb 2012 08:27
The Steering Committee Meeting on the Project for Public Transport Network and a First Priority Line in the Phnom Penh Metropolitan Area was held and chaired by H.E Governor KEP Chuk Tema in the Capital Hall in the afternoon of February 14, 2012.
The primary result of feasibility study of the project was presented by SYSTRA represented by Mr. Antoine Chèvre and Ms. Aurélie Jehanno about the study context, methodology, urban
structure, demographics, socio-economic and transport modes. Based on their presentation, the French experts had primarily summarized that Phnom Penh is at a turning point due to demographic growth, mobility boom and a steady economic growth which caused to complicated traffic flow and it is necessary to have a proper public transport system according to current situation. Moreover, the year 2030 will be the demographic maturity threshold according to the National Institution of Statistics. The study team was mainly focused on some significant routes such as: Monivong Blvd., Monireth, Russian, NR 5, NR 2, NR 1 and Chaom Chao Roundabout which were linked from suburban areas to urban zones. However, the development of Phnom Penh had been gradually done based on the Capital’s Master Plan; thus the study team was thinking only on existing roads. Furthermore, in order to form up a prior line, there should be a public transport system via public bus to facilitate passengers from other provinces and suburban districts. During that meeting, the study team had also presented the sample electronic trains such as: monorails and trams being used in some cities over the globe with high ability and were the big public transport modes to travel more than 60,000 passengers within a short period of time and different directions.
Mentioning in the meeting, H.E Governor had expressed his profound appreciation to the SYSTRA Study team for their effort to reach their primary report for the Capital Hall. Based on the study, we have known that Phnom Penh surely required a urgent public transport system. H.E Governor had also appealed to all relevant agencies and departments to cooperate with SYSTRA and JICA experts for the detail study aiming to facilitate the Project could proceed effectively and could get a good conclusion which would be agreed by all related bodies and at least within the year of 2012, the Capital Hall would establish a city bus system if the investment proposal would be evaluated.
http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/detail-photo/g.with-systra-1step-14022012-4-132927552118105.jpg
hopeoneday February 22nd, 2012, 03:00 AM It would be great if we can see the routes cover under ''Historical Metropolitan Center'' :)
I wish to see too. However, based on the meeting at City Hall, bus will be operated on Monivong Bld, Russian Bld and Monireth Bld, which are under Historicial Metropolitan Center. I doubt how people living on other roads can use the bus.
mrfusion February 22nd, 2012, 06:08 AM I wish to see too. However, based on the meeting at City Hall, bus will be operated on Monivong Bld, Russian Bld and Monireth Bld, which are under Historicial Metropolitan Center. I doubt how people living on other roads can use the bus.
With thousands of tuk tuk around, people is so used to door to door service, which bus clearly can not do, any proposed route will be opposed by the public.
hopeoneday February 22nd, 2012, 09:43 AM With thousands of tuk tuk around, people is so used to door to door service, which bus clearly can not do, any proposed route will be opposed by the public.
I think Tuk Tuk will be strictly prohibited in City after the city bus starts operation. Moreover, Tuk Tuk is expensive and not safe, so bus will be successful as long as bus routes are expanded.
mrfusion February 22nd, 2012, 11:36 AM I think Tuk Tuk will be strictly prohibited in City after the city bus starts operation. Moreover, Tuk Tuk is expensive and not safe, so bus will be successful as long as bus routes are expanded.
Banning it IMO is a wonderful idea, but bus can never replace it. How much do you think bus ride is going to cost?
hopeoneday February 22nd, 2012, 12:54 PM Banning it IMO is a wonderful idea, but bus can never replace it. How much do you think bus ride is going to cost?
Can range from R 500 to 1000. It is acceptable for all people. Bus is for poor to middle class people not for the rich.
Fulltimer February 22nd, 2012, 03:11 PM It's a good idea! I hate seeing those tuk tuk everywhere in the city!
hopeoneday February 22nd, 2012, 03:18 PM It's a good idea! I hate seeing those tuk tuk everywhere in the city!
Soon it will disappear in the city like Cyclo
Fulltimer February 22nd, 2012, 03:25 PM Soon it will disappear in the city like Cyclo
^^ I hope so! This will make PP more attractive to tourist and make it look like a real city!
hopeoneday February 22nd, 2012, 04:03 PM ^^ I hope so! This will make PP more attractive to tourist and make it look like a real city!
Yes I agree with you.
Asian February 23rd, 2012, 05:40 AM ^^ I hope so! This will make PP more attractive to tourist and make it look like a real city!
Most middle class tourists visiting Cambodia like Tuk Tuk. I don't get the fact that without tuk tuk would make the real city of Phnom Penh become a real city. Is it not a city or does not look like a city right now?
topmodelhi5 February 23rd, 2012, 06:51 AM Most middle class tourists visiting Cambodia like Tuk Tuk. I don't get the fact that without tuk tuk would make the real city of Phnom Penh become a real city. Is it not a city or does not look like a city right now?
I agree with you! However, Tuk Tuk should be allowed only in tourism hub not everywhere because it is not safe and it's d main cause of traffic jam!
kimmy February 23rd, 2012, 07:39 AM I agree with you! However, Tuk Tuk should be allowed only in tourism hub not everywhere because it is not safe and it's d main cause of traffic jam!
Tuk Tuk is getting more popularity among all type of tourists and generate more income for the driver and job. Look at Bangkok, Jarkata, even India, they still have some of this old similar transport means and it become an attract for tourish while at the same time it provide new modern bus and skytrain. Traffic Jam because of Tuk Tuk, I dont neccessary agree with you, it 's the people who do not follow the rule
MYPHNOMPENH February 23rd, 2012, 01:48 PM Tuk Tuk is getting more popularity among all type of tourists and generate more income for the driver and job. Look at Bangkok, Jarkata, even India, they still have some of this old similar transport means and it become an attract for tourish while at the same time it provide new modern bus and skytrain. Traffic Jam because of Tuk Tuk, I dont neccessary agree with you, it 's the people who do not follow the rule
100% agreed with you!
mrfusion February 23rd, 2012, 04:18 PM Can range from R 500 to 1000. It is acceptable for all people. Bus is for poor to middle class people not for the rich.
Probably going to cost government a lot of money if charged that low.
mrfusion February 23rd, 2012, 04:19 PM It's a good idea! I hate seeing those tuk tuk everywhere in the city!
When is the last time you visited Cambodia?
mrfusion February 23rd, 2012, 04:27 PM I agree with you! However, Tuk Tuk should be allowed only in tourism hub not everywhere because it is not safe and it's d main cause of traffic jam!
As long as they don't ride on opposite side of road, and don't park anywhere, they cause little traffic issue. But I think there are way too many, the number should be regulated, they have seat for 6 and should not carry 20 people.
MYPHNOMPENH February 23rd, 2012, 07:48 PM When is the last time you visited Cambodia?
In year :nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:
Asian February 23rd, 2012, 08:51 PM I agree with you! However, Tuk Tuk should be allowed only in tourism hub not everywhere because it is not safe and it's d main cause of traffic jam!
Good thoughts!
Asian February 23rd, 2012, 08:54 PM In year :nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:
Maybe he has visited Cambodia on TVs every year. hahaha...
Fulltimer February 23rd, 2012, 09:00 PM When is the last time you visited Cambodia?
^^ 2000!
Fulltimer February 23rd, 2012, 09:03 PM As long as they don't ride on opposite side of road, and don't park anywhere, they cause little traffic issue. But I think there are way too many, the number should be regulated, they have seat for 6 and should not carry 20 people.
^^ That is the reason why we need to ban it! They park in the side walks, anywhere they find space.
Asian February 23rd, 2012, 09:10 PM ^^ That is the reason why we need to ban it! They park in the side walks, anywhere they find space.
It is the same thing for cars and motocicles. They park everywhere that they can find space including the sidewalks. So, why would we not ban them as well?
mrfusion February 24th, 2012, 02:05 AM ^^ 2000!
A lot has change since.
mrfusion February 24th, 2012, 02:10 AM ^^ That is the reason why we need to ban it! They park in the side walks, anywhere they find space.
Just have to regulated it, taxi has designated waiting area in every country, tuk tuk should also have designated waiting area.
The motor-tuk, those that are just a bike, should be ban.
mrfusion February 25th, 2012, 06:29 AM ^^ That is the reason why we need to ban it! They park in the side walks, anywhere they find space.
Based on observation, the main reason for traffic jam is
1. Bikes (inc motorbikes) and Cars stick their vehicles out in intersection waiting to turn, and cars on the main road has to drive around them, causing delay.
2. Bicycles and Cars drive to the opposite lane waiting to exit, blocking the whole road, so other cars that wants to drive into the road couldn't.
3. Cars don't travel on their lane, mainly because the slower bikes are in the way, and these slower bikes don't travel in straight line, moving in and out of traffics.
4. Small stalls selling foods on the road (why don't they move their stalls onto the footpath, it is safer for everybody).
5. The council put 200m barriers and a few fk-head drive on the opposite lane before the barriers start.
and off course, illegal parking.
It is the altitude and lack of consideration of majority of drivers (and this is not Tuk Tuk specific) that caused traffic issues.
The cops on the street are not doing their job, if you have a paper on the windscreen (don't know what those mean), the cops don't stop you. The cops on the road is their to make money.
We also need a demerit system in place.
bokator February 28th, 2012, 05:17 PM Gridlock going nowhere fast
Despite Phnom Penh’s rapidly increasing traffic woes, it might take until 2035 for a public transport system in the Kingdom’s capital to be operational, government development partners said yesterday.
The Japan International Cooperation Agency, which has been working with Cambodia’s government since 2001 on an urban transport master plan, said yesterday further feasibility and data studies being undertaken would not be completed until 2014.
“The target year [for implementation] is 2035,” Seng Solady, JICA’s communications officer, said yesterday.
“[However], some projects may be implemented after the master plan is completed in 2014.”
According to JICA project documents obtained by the Post, traffic and transport conditions in Phnom Penh have become worse because of the rapid increase in the number of vehicles and motorbikes.
“The traffic problems . . . are diversified and cause many problems to the economic, environmental and living condition of urban residents,” the project document states.
“If this situation is left untouched, the traffic situation in Phnom Penh will soon reach a level that can hamper the desired economic growth and livelihood of the citizens.”
Phnom Penh deputy governor Chreang Sophan, who is working on the project, said the study stage was of the utmost importance.
“Phnom Penh has been developing fast, so the traffic situation is complicated. We, too, want to ease the traffic congestion,” he said.
Ministry of Public Works director-general of public transport Ung Chun Huor said the government was “worried” about the capital’s growing traffic problems.
“As the number of people increases and the economy grows, the number of vehicles will increase,” he said.
“A good solution is to have public transport.”
Phnom Penh deputy traffic police chief Chev Hak said the city needed to quickly find a solution for its traffic congestion problem.
Phnom Penh Post (http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2012022854751/National-news/gridlock-going-nowhere-fast.html)
bokator February 28th, 2012, 05:18 PM 2035 is way too long ! Are they planning on having a flying bus over Phnom Penh ?
hopeoneday February 29th, 2012, 01:39 AM why 2035? I don't know what source I should believe. Public Transport here is refering to Tram, Sky Train and Bus? I think Bus can't take so long to study like this...
mrfusion February 29th, 2012, 02:04 AM 2035 is way too long ! Are they planning on having a flying bus over Phnom Penh ?
13 years to do a study, maybe they need more time to clean the money they stole..
2035 will be the sort of timeframe to put a fully functional subway system in pp.
mrfusion February 29th, 2012, 02:14 AM why 2035? I don't know what source I should believe. Public Transport here is refering to Tram, Sky Train and Bus? I think Bus can't take so long to study like this...
Tram or lightrail shouldn't take that long, Macau's lightrail is expected to complete bt 2015, I think.
pp is a bigger, but construction should not take any more then 10 years.
mrfusion February 29th, 2012, 02:18 AM What ever mode of PT they want to use, what ever routes, the number one priority to solve congestion issues is to have a demerit system in place ans enforce.
SeeMacau February 29th, 2012, 04:32 PM For Tram or lightrail, I don't think it will be built in the next 5 - 10 years
SeeMacau February 29th, 2012, 04:36 PM 2035 is just an assumption, he probably means it'll take forever Phnom Penh to have a decent public transport system in place.
hopeoneday February 29th, 2012, 05:12 PM Tram should be built next year
SeeMacau February 29th, 2012, 05:34 PM Let's see what's gonna happen
StrongAngkor March 1st, 2012, 01:45 AM 2035 is just an assumption, he probably means it'll take forever Phnom Penh to have a decent public transport system in place.
Hmm Disappointed i also want to mean that. I got headache just to see those taxi around Phsar Thmei. Maybe we are the most messy taxi place in the world :ohno:
AsianDragons March 1st, 2012, 02:15 AM question how are they gonna build any rail if the roads are already so crowded, considering cost the only option is underground rail, i dont think skytrain might fit since there the road is narrow and there are wires everywhere
kimmy March 1st, 2012, 04:11 AM Phnom Penh is not a big as Bangkor or Tokyo, so dont expect too much. I think the first priority is to have public bus route work between central and urban of Phnom Penh, second is to build skytrain from Beoung Kak area to airport. The airport passenger is currently at amost 2 million and should be double in another 5 years. The rest we can wait.
mrfusion March 3rd, 2012, 04:27 AM question how are they gonna build any rail if the roads are already so crowded,
Assuming you are also talking about tram/lightrail.
they can build it by closing a section of road at a time to install the track and supporting wire structure. Just like they close off a section of road at a time in the last 2 weeks resurface the road from airport to the bridge.
With light rail, the major concern is how are you going to operate it, the cars, bikes has no consideration with other traffics, and will continue to block the tram, shop owner is not going to be happy because it will mean there is no parking in front of their shop.
considering cost the only option is underground rail,
Underground rail is a good idea but expensive to build.
i dont think skytrain might fit since there the road is narrow and there are wires everywhere
I think the wires are least of the worry, the wires can always be diverted, and there are plans to clean it up and/or move it underground. But you are right about narrow roads, we need lots of columns to support the deck, we need lots of rooms for the stairs/lift to access the stations above.
SeeMacau March 3rd, 2012, 07:25 AM The government can considered building a monorail system like the one in Sydney, it doesn't take up too much spaces :)
AsianDragons March 3rd, 2012, 07:33 AM attention mod, please comment, give me an answer
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=89092167#post89092167
mrfusion March 3rd, 2012, 07:37 AM The government can considered building a monorail system like the one in Sydney, it doesn't take up too much spaces :)
The one in sydney is meant to be a tourist attraction, it is not even a serious public transport, it is expensive and still loose money, it is noisy, imo, an eyesore.
Maybe sydney should decommission it and donate it to Cambodia.
SeeMacau March 3rd, 2012, 07:44 AM Yes, very few stations and the monorail system connected only to the major attractions in the CBD, is it possible to reduce the noise by replacing different types of wheels, such as rubber wheels?
mrfusion March 9th, 2012, 03:50 AM Yes, very few stations and the monorail system connected only to the major attractions in the CBD, is it possible to reduce the noise by replacing different types of wheels, such as rubber wheels?
Who knows, who would wants to put extra investment on something that is loosing money. The noise doesn't concern those few people that use it.
mrfusion March 23rd, 2012, 05:05 AM The one in sydney is meant to be a tourist attraction, it is not even a serious public transport, it is expensive and still loose money, it is noisy, imo, an eyesore.
Maybe sydney should decommission it and donate it to Cambodia.
Interesting a few week after I said this, Sydney decided it will be pull down.
This morning's announcement by the Premier, Barry O'Farrell, and the Transport Minister, Gladys Berejiklian, came after months of negotiations with the shareholders of the company that owns the light rail and monorail lines.
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http://images.smh.com.au/2010/02/27/1179673/monorail-420x0.jpg The monorail is to be pulled down. Photo: Helen Nezdropa
The monorail will be torn down as soon as possible, Mr O'Farrell said, but that might be some time away.
"The real problem with the monorail, I think for most Sydneysiders, is that it doesn't actually go anywhere that you want to go," Mr O'Farrell said of the line, which opened in 1988.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/onceinageneration-opportunity-to-fix-transport-20120323-1vnss.html#ixzz1puErgIOq
and guess what, the NSW government doesn't know what to do with it yet.
mrfusion March 23rd, 2012, 05:09 AM I must be out of my mind, lived in Sydney hate the monorail to my guts, now lived in Phnom Penh and suggest to bring it over here.
Asian March 23rd, 2012, 08:11 AM I must be out of my mind, lived in Sydney hate the monorail to my guts, now lived in Phnom Penh and suggest to bring it over here.
Calm down...It is a good idea though for Phnom Penh.
AsianDragons May 2nd, 2012, 10:09 AM this idea is really good we need a BRT
hopeoneday May 17th, 2012, 05:47 AM New bus company provides bus service from PP to Siam Reap since 5 May. Departure twice daily is at 8: 45 and 12: 30, n will has thrice daily next month. In 3 month, company will expand service to BBT, SHV, n KP. It charges $US 13 from PP to SR the most expensive price of all but it has aircon, speaker attached seat, wifi, n snack...
mrfusion May 17th, 2012, 06:17 AM $13 to SR sounds very very expensive.
hopeoneday May 17th, 2012, 06:26 AM $13 to SR sounds very very expensive.
Perhaps a good service provided
AsianDragons May 17th, 2012, 09:48 AM $13 to SR sounds very very expensive.
Sydney to Canberra is $50 for 300km, remember bus costs the same, fuel cost the same the driver's pay is a minor thing, $13 for 400km is still very cheap
MYPHNOMPENH May 17th, 2012, 10:10 AM To me its not expensive at all...
mrfusion May 17th, 2012, 10:21 AM Sydney to Canberra is $50 for 300km, remember bus costs the same, fuel cost the same the driver's pay is a minor thing, $13 for 400km is still very cheap
I think it cost me about $50 to drive to Canberra myself.
A coach use maybe 4-5 times more fuel, but carry 30-50x more people. (maybe not all the time)
I believe when look at cost, you compare to alternative, and there are much cheaper alternative, but after all, it is suppose to be a luxury service, so I suppose they can justify the price.
PS: I think Sydney to Canberra should cost only $35.
AsianDragons May 17th, 2012, 02:22 PM New bus to Siem Reap .
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A new Hyundai Universe waiting for passangers near Phnom Penh’s night market. Photograph: Vireak Mai/Phnom Penh Post
A new luxury bus service from Phnom Penh to Siem Reap has arrived in the Kingdom. Giant Ibis, named for the rare national bird of Cambodia, is a US$13 per seat bus service that started operations on May 5.
The cost, which may seem over-priced for Cambodia, is quickly forgotten when you enter the startlingly luxurious bus and stretch your legs in the entire metre of leg room available.
“Fantastic, the service was really wonderful,” said Tony, 48 of the luxury busses, and Virak, 24, said: “It was great. The best bus I have ever been on.”
Currently the service runs twice daily at 8:45am and 12:30pm, but spokesperson Vibol Yoy has said they plan to increase the number of bus services in the near future.
The fully air-conditioned busses offer reclining seats, wi-fi, a large TV with a full selection of movies and a sound system above each seat that can be manually turned on or off.
The bus provides drinks and snacks and will even provide breakfast for the morning service.
The fleet of six luxury Hyundai Universe busses, owned by Royal Cambodian limousine service, is focused on quality to customers.
“We provide extensive road-safety and customer service training to all our staff. Our focus is on allowing people to have a happy and safe time when they use our service,” said Yoy.
The name behind the company comes from the rare, and once thought extinct, giant ibis, known in Khmer as tror yorng and in 2005 was declared as the national bird of Cambodia.
The population of the birds is thought to number only about 100 in the Kingdom, which is the largest population in the world.
The company has stated that it will give three cents of each ticket to help save the endangered bird.
The bus service travels through Kompong Cham province and crosses a small town called Skun, which is famous for fried spider, and they are apparently eaten regularly, indeed every day, by the locals.
The spiders are bred in holes in the ground, and the taste has been described as “interesting” by tourists.
The bus service will offer the opportunity for the more adventurous of it customers to sample the fried spider as the bus passes through the town.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/images/stories/news/national/2012/120517/120517_09.jpg
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2012051756206/Business/new-bus-to-siem-reap.html
mrfusion May 17th, 2012, 02:40 PM ^^ Some interior picture will be great.
Asian May 17th, 2012, 07:13 PM New bus to Siem Reap .
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Thursday, 17 May 2012 .
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A new Hyundai Universe waiting for passangers near Phnom Penh’s night market. Photograph: Vireak Mai/Phnom Penh Post
A new luxury bus service from Phnom Penh to Siem Reap has arrived in the Kingdom. Giant Ibis, named for the rare national bird of Cambodia, is a US$13 per seat bus service that started operations on May 5.
The cost, which may seem over-priced for Cambodia, is quickly forgotten when you enter the startlingly luxurious bus and stretch your legs in the entire metre of leg room available.
“Fantastic, the service was really wonderful,” said Tony, 48 of the luxury busses, and Virak, 24, said: “It was great. The best bus I have ever been on.”
Currently the service runs twice daily at 8:45am and 12:30pm, but spokesperson Vibol Yoy has said they plan to increase the number of bus services in the near future.
The fully air-conditioned busses offer reclining seats, wi-fi, a large TV with a full selection of movies and a sound system above each seat that can be manually turned on or off.
The bus provides drinks and snacks and will even provide breakfast for the morning service.
The fleet of six luxury Hyundai Universe busses, owned by Royal Cambodian limousine service, is focused on quality to customers.
“We provide extensive road-safety and customer service training to all our staff. Our focus is on allowing people to have a happy and safe time when they use our service,” said Yoy.
The name behind the company comes from the rare, and once thought extinct, giant ibis, known in Khmer as tror yorng and in 2005 was declared as the national bird of Cambodia.
The population of the birds is thought to number only about 100 in the Kingdom, which is the largest population in the world.
The company has stated that it will give three cents of each ticket to help save the endangered bird.
The bus service travels through Kompong Cham province and crosses a small town called Skun, which is famous for fried spider, and they are apparently eaten regularly, indeed every day, by the locals.
The spiders are bred in holes in the ground, and the taste has been described as “interesting” by tourists.
The bus service will offer the opportunity for the more adventurous of it customers to sample the fried spider as the bus passes through the town.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/images/stories/news/national/2012/120517/120517_09.jpg
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2012051756206/Business/new-bus-to-siem-reap.html
This is awesome. I used to use Mekong Express. Now, it has a competittion. I'd not mind to pay $13, if it is safe. Mekong Express have done a very good job in "safe driving".
kvaaa May 17th, 2012, 11:34 PM Does anyone know if the company has a policy that it does not hire a driver who does not drink?
Asian May 17th, 2012, 11:48 PM Does anyone know if the company has a policy that it does not hire a driver who does not drink?
Do you mean it does not hire a driver who drinks?
It would be very unsafe "it has a policy that it does not hire a driver who does not drink." Drink and Drive should not be mixed. It is terrible if it has this policy.
kvaaa May 18th, 2012, 12:23 AM Do you mean it does not hire a driver who drinks?
It would be very unsafe "it has a policy that it does not hire a driver who does not drink." Drink and Drive should not be mixed. It is terrible if it has this policy.
Yes, that is what I meant. I heard of bus accidents happening so often in Cambodia.
Asian May 18th, 2012, 12:59 AM Yes, that is what I meant. I heard of bus accidents happening so often in Cambodia.
I used to use Mekong Express company. It has a good record (at least through my experience). Drivers there follow the rules, one of which is no drinking on the job, of the company. They don't go fast, but on time as scheduled because they don't stop so many places. But, the buses are a bit older.
mrfusion May 18th, 2012, 01:19 AM Drivers there follow the rules, one of which is no drinking on the job,
Not just on the job, they can not have any alcohol possibly up to 2 hours before they got on the job.
I think breath test should be introduce in Cambodia.
kvaaa May 18th, 2012, 02:45 AM I think the company should hire only non-drinker.
mrfusion May 18th, 2012, 03:52 AM I think the company should hire only non-drinker. Probably pretty hard with Khmer culture. And surely the driver will lie about it.
Asian May 18th, 2012, 08:06 PM Not just on the job, they can not have any alcohol possibly up to 2 hours before they got on the job.
I think breath test should be introduce in Cambodia.
"breath test"? Maybe, it is hard to do that. Not sure if any bus company in the world has this test for its drivers.
I think screening and education should be practiced.
Asian May 18th, 2012, 08:06 PM Probably pretty hard with Khmer culture. And surely the driver will lie about it.
Any culture, not just Khmer's.
mrfusion May 19th, 2012, 05:19 AM Any culture, not just Khmer's.
Which part, the drinking part, or the lying part?
Most other place have anti discrimination law of some sort in place, so the hired only non-drinker will not be possible at the first place.
With the popularity of pubs (I am not sure pubs need to be licensed or if the industry is regulated), it seems it is a lot more common for the locals to have a drink or two, very frequently.
Drinking is not illegal, and if the local enjoy it, it is fine. But we need more education on Don't Drink and Drive. We need more penalty on Drink and Drive.
mrfusion May 19th, 2012, 05:26 AM "breath test"? Maybe, it is hard to do that. Not sure if any bus company in the world has this test for its drivers.
I think screening and education should be practiced.
I means drivers should be subject to breath test randomly on the road.
A breath test for the passenger to see before the trip begin also sounds like a good idea to give passenger more faith, and I don't think is not hard to implement.
Asian May 19th, 2012, 05:52 AM I means drivers should be subject to breath test randomly on the road.
A breath test for the passenger to see before the trip begin also sounds like a good idea to give passenger more faith, and I don't think is not hard to implement.
It takes years before Cambodia would have the will and mean to randomly tests drivers on the road.
I might miss understand your point. Do you mean that you don't think it is hard to implement or you think it is hard to implement because your sentence "I don't think is not hard to implement" seems unclear to me.
mrfusion May 19th, 2012, 06:28 AM It takes years before Cambodia would have the will and mean to randomly tests drivers on the road.
We may not have the man power, but we can always start with 1, then 2, etc. Yes, whether the cops has the guts (or power) to stop big expensive car is the problem.
I might miss understand your point. Do you mean that you don't think it is hard to implement or you think it is hard to implement because your sentence "I don't think is not hard to implement" seems unclear to me.
Sorry, I meant to type "I don't think is too hard to implement."
The driver gets up, speaks to the passenger against a breath test device, "Welcome everyone, I am your driver, Jack, this is a luxury bus, I wishes you all enjoy your trip, and don't worry, I have not been drinking" and show the passenger the device is negative.
hopeoneday May 19th, 2012, 09:58 AM Several days ago, Mekong express just got accident ...
mrfusion May 19th, 2012, 10:04 AM Several days ago, Mekong express just got accident ...
What is the nature of the accident? Wet Road? Drink Driving?
hopeoneday May 19th, 2012, 12:25 PM Sleepy driver ....
mrfusion May 19th, 2012, 12:36 PM Sleepy driver ....
Fatique is another issue. But that is really difficult to avoid.
AsianDragons May 19th, 2012, 01:51 PM so you guys think random breath test is good, remember cambodia's traffic is already chao try delaying traffic for another 30 min, hmm
MYPHNOMPENH May 19th, 2012, 06:04 PM Most every month I heard bus accident had happened in Cambodia and sometime foreigner tourism also included... How to solved this problem since many peoples like to take bus than taxi....?
mrfusion May 23rd, 2012, 03:48 AM so you guys think random breath test is good, remember cambodia's traffic is already chao try delaying traffic for another 30 min, hmm
I don't understand how random test can delay by 30 minutes.
Random means the cops pick random people to the side, not 20 cars at the same time blocking the road.
AsianDragons May 23rd, 2012, 05:32 AM ^^ i remember on the one of the M motorways they did that
mrfusion May 24th, 2012, 06:15 AM ^^ i remember on the one of the M motorways they did that
But it only block one lane. Usually on the emergency lane on the side, not much of an issue.
Cambodia do need to seriously implemented anti-drink driving laws, penalty will also need to increase as you carry more passenger.
AsianDragons May 24th, 2012, 09:18 AM anyone like the electrified buses in North Korea
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Irisbus_Cristalis_ETB18_C1_Lyon_TCL_PDVM_Ibou.JPG/300px-Irisbus_Cristalis_ETB18_C1_Lyon_TCL_PDVM_Ibou.JPG
mrfusion May 24th, 2012, 09:44 AM Good looking, but our sky is already full of cables. Might work better then tram/lightrail as the bus is probably more flexible to dodge illegally parked motocycle or road side mobile food store.
mrfusion May 28th, 2012, 11:16 AM I don't even know where to put this... a bus thread should be fine.
I have never see a double decker bus in Phnom Penh before.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1194/20120523170449.jpg
AsianDragons May 28th, 2012, 11:19 AM ^^ thats wierd because i have, it was one of the main bus companies, i think was on the way to Siem Reap, i think it was a paramount bus that i saw???
mrfusion May 28th, 2012, 11:52 AM I see plenty fully enclosed air-conditioned tour bus, but never pay too much attention of what they are. There might be double-decker type, but from memory, I can't recalled seeing it on any of the PP road.
mrfusion May 28th, 2012, 12:45 PM Now that you mentioned it, I pay a bit more attention, and I just saw paramount double deck bus you mentioned at about the exact same position.
kimmy May 29th, 2012, 02:10 AM I saw it once along the riverside with tourist on the top and it look similar to a city tour bus in Sydney. I dont think it is part of Paramount Bus company
hopeoneday July 4th, 2012, 03:54 AM SYSTRA pointing out the 2nd Phase of Results of Tramway Research
Tuesday, 03 Jul 2012 10:03
Phnom Penh Capital Hall has held its 2nd meeting with the Technical Committee for Public Transportation Research presided by H.E KEP Chuk Tema, the governor of Phnom Penh Capital Hall on June 28th , 2012 to discuss the 2nd research results of the first prioritized railway in Phnom Penh after having the last meeting on February 14th, 2012 .
According to the presentation of the French experts, Mr. Antoine Chevre and Mrs. Aurelie Jehanno discover that the traffic jam in the city is caused by the dramatically increasing amount of population and vehicles especially in the 4 suburb Khans. Phnom Penh has following economic growth yet the common transportation system for its people is still not realized. The research project of French’s SYSTRA Company showed the possibility of the infrastructure in Phnom Penh to set up the first line of a Tramway consisting of 5 options which the 5th one was chosen by the meeting's chairs. It was the option of which a line connected from Monivong bridge to Prek Pnov which will costs around 240 million dollars to 280 million dollars. However, only Tramway alone could not answer to the needs of the population and reduced the traffic jam in the city while public bus is also important.
Meanwhile, JICA representatives also noticed that the traffic problem has been studied for a long time and the key issue to refine the traffic in Phnom Penh is to install the tramway to modernize the living culture of the citizens in the city.
After the presentation and discussion, The Capital governor shares his gratitude to the French experts who did their best to come up with the 2nd phase output that is very important to send to the Royal Government for decision making. He added that, It was the time right now for Phnom Penh citizens to take up the common transportation system in order to reduce the traffic jam in the city. The governor also expresses his gratitude to the French Government for the effort and support to Phnom Penh Capital on this project. Based on this, Phnom Penh Capital Hall decides to establish common transportation system by bus under Phnom Penh - Paris Master Plan cooperation. Even though we have faced many challenges, we determined to have the common transportation system as well. If we don’t decide now, the traffic issue in Phnom Penh will be more complicated such as other countries. The governor also wished the citizens to think of using tramway and bus transportation in the future.
In this occasion, H.E Tram Yve Tek, Minister of Public Works and Transportation had recognized that the number of vehicles increased from day to day. If there was no solution, the traffic situation in Phnom Penh woud get more and more terrible as Bangkok and other cities. The Minister also added that only bus transportation is not enough. That is why, we should have the perspective to use the tramway that can bring many people rather than using their own transportation in consistency to the willing and effort of Phnom Penh Capital Hall to create the common transportation system latest in 2013.
http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/detail-photo/g.with-systra-second-meeting-28062012-7-134128056156608.jpg
http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/detail-photo/g.with-systra-second-meeting-28062012-8-134128054795730.jpg
hopeoneday July 4th, 2012, 03:55 AM http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/news-systra-pointing-out-the-2nd-phase-of-results-of-tramway-research--3090.html
mrfusion July 4th, 2012, 04:10 AM Tram/Lightrail is a wonderful idea, and I hope to see it happen.
Asian July 4th, 2012, 06:57 AM I think this is the best idea so far in term of wanting to reduce traffic problem in PP. I hope the central government would take action on this right away. It won't solve the problem completely, but at least it is a starting point to eventually solve it. I can't wait to see it happens every soon.
mrfusion July 4th, 2012, 09:16 AM I think this is the best idea so far in term of wanting to reduce traffic problem in PP. I hope the central government would take action on this right away. It won't solve the problem completely, but at least it is a starting point to eventually solve it. I can't wait to see it happens every soon.
yeah, i hope it will evolved into more then just an idea. no developed city can solved its traffic issue. no reason to believe we will or we can.
AsianDragons September 19th, 2012, 10:58 AM does the bus services include ta khmau
AsianDragons October 1st, 2012, 12:38 PM Bus routes on their way to Phnom Penh
Monday, 01 October 2012 Kim Sarom and Rosa Ellen
Phnom Penh might have a bus service by early next year after City Hall named two bus companies to start running routes through the capital.
Lim Andre, chief executive officer of Global (Cambodia) Trade Development, who along with City Trans Cambodia beat a handful of competitors to win the licence, said his company plans to employ a fleet of 90 buses along four lines around Phnom Penh and from Takhmao, Kandal province.
“If the first operation is successful, our firm will expand another two lines operation,” he said.
Passengers could expect to pay about 1,300 riel for a bus fare along one route, Lim said, or buy a monthly ticket for US$11 with unlimited use.
The absence of a public transport system in a growing city of 1.5 million people has been the subject of much debate.
In 2001, the Japan International Cooperation Agency developed an urban transport master plan for Phnom Penh with a target year set for 2015. During this project, a citywide bus service was tried but struggled to compete with the established and affordable moto trade.
The entire master plan was eventually dropped, citing fast-changing traffic conditions and growth in the city’s suburban residential areas. In April the beginnings of another urban transport plan for Phnom Penh were made with a JICA research team and the government.
Long Dimanche, spokesman for Phnom Penh City Hall, said yesterday that the decision to tender the capital’s bus system to the chosen bus companies was made after consultation with research firm SYstar.
“Putting public buses in place will help ease traffic congestion, reduce costs and reduce the number of cars in the street,” Dimanche said.
The exact number of vehicles and bus routes, as well as a timeframe, had yet to be finalised, Dimanche said, but he expected the service to start in early 2013.
But introducing buses won’t necessarily ease traffic congestion, Ching Chhom Mony, Dean of Architecture and Urbanism at the Royal University of Fine Arts, said.
Bus stop locations had to be looked at to ensure frequently stopping buses didn’t add to traffic problems. A comprehensive network, however, would help people overcome their reliance on motos, he said.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2012100159015/National-news/bus-routes-on-their-way-to-phnom-penh.html
mrfusion October 1st, 2012, 03:54 PM Next question, how do you persuade people to use it.
AsianDragons October 2nd, 2012, 11:08 AM ^^ why not try another hun sen propaganda 4 hour speech, people will have to listen then and follow
hopeoneday October 3rd, 2012, 05:26 AM i won't stop use my car and use bus ..
first, there are few lines only so It is hard to get where i want to go
second, i am not sure if bus is faster than my own car since the drivers in pp seems not respect the traffic law.
So own car is more beneficial
mrfusion October 3rd, 2012, 07:13 AM i won't stop use my car and use bus ..
first, there are few lines only so It is hard to get where i want to go
second, i am not sure if bus is faster than my own car since the drivers in pp seems not respect the traffic law.
So own car is more beneficial
It might remove some moto-Tuk or Tuk-tuk off the road.
MYPHNOMPENH October 3rd, 2012, 07:53 AM i won't stop use my car and use bus ..
first, there are few lines only so It is hard to get where i want to go
second, i am not sure if bus is faster than my own car since the drivers in pp seems not respect the traffic law.
So own car is more beneficial
Yes because Cambodian not respect the traffic law or country law but just listen and follow Hun sen only.... 100%^^ then without him all people will become :nuts:
AsianDragons October 3rd, 2012, 07:58 AM the fare is not that cheap either, because motodop is very cheap already, plus bus fares have a record of rising all the time, i remember 10 years ago a train ticket from fairfield to cabramatta is about $1 nows it s $1.70 and they are going to increase it by another 4% this year, bus are the same, nearly double
mrfusion October 3rd, 2012, 04:58 PM the fare is not that cheap either, because motodop is very cheap already, plus bus fares have a record of rising all the time, i remember 10 years ago a train ticket from fairfield to cabramatta is about $1 nows it s $1.70 and they are going to increase it by another 4% this year, bus are the same, nearly double
How much is motodop now? the advantage of motodop over bus is point to point service, they take you right to your front door.
Motodop will have to increase eventually as price of petrol goes up.
I don't think Australia price structure can be compare with price structure in Cambodia.
SeeMacau October 6th, 2012, 08:50 AM Motodop is more expensive compare to the price of a bus ticket. It usually cost around $2000 riel to $2 depending on the distance (This is the price they charge for the locals).
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costaveha October 9th, 2012, 01:22 PM They make progress! It's good sign of reducing traffic congestion, once Phnom Penh residents shift their way to adapt this old but new public transport in Cambodia.
HarroDom November 9th, 2012, 03:03 AM http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/detail-photo/busterminal-2-129211691881026089.jpg
HarroDom November 9th, 2012, 03:14 AM http://www.phnompenh.gov.kh/photos/detail-photo/busterminal-3-129211692866822949.jpg
mrfusion November 9th, 2012, 08:35 AM Where is this bus terminal going to be?
amigo009 December 2nd, 2012, 02:49 PM is there any update for this project?
HarroDom January 13th, 2013, 05:17 AM Ground transport hub slated for capital
Local tycoon and CPP Senator Ly Yong Phat has announced plans to build a new bus terminal on the outskirts of Phnom Penh intended to serve as the capital’s ground transport hub. Ly Yong Phat said his LYP Group had invested about US$10 million in the project, planned to be opened in January or February of 2011. “I will build the bus station, and if bus companies and other passenger service providers park at my station, they have to pay us a set fee,” Ly Yong Phat said.
The terminal will have a capacity of 264 buses, 540 cars, 342 vans and 300 minibuses, Ly Yong Phat said, and will be constructed on 27 hectares of land in Russey Keo district’s Bak Kheng commune, which was formerly part of Kandal province’s Muk Kampoul district before being re-zoned earlier this year.
Ly Yong Phat has been involved in contentious land disputes in Oddar Meanchey and Kampong Speu provinces with villagers who claim to have been displaced by his development projects. Muk Kampoul district deputy police chief Koang Siphal said, however, that the land in Bak Kheng commune was uninhabited forest purchased by Ly Yong Phat several years ago. We will try to construct this after the first few phases of our satellite city outside of the city.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/khmerMBR/busterminal-1-1292116912265551991.jpg
mrfusion January 13th, 2013, 10:14 AM Ground transport hub slated for capital
Local tycoon and CPP Senator Ly Yong Phat has announced plans to build a new bus terminal on the outskirts of Phnom Penh intended to serve as the capital’s ground transport hub. Ly Yong Phat said his LYP Group had invested about US$10 million in the project, planned to be opened in January or February of 2011. “I will build the bus station, and if bus companies and other passenger service providers park at my station, they have to pay us a set fee,” Ly Yong Phat said.
The terminal will have a capacity of 264 buses, 540 cars, 342 vans and 300 minibuses, Ly Yong Phat said, and will be constructed on 27 hectares of land in Russey Keo district’s Bak Kheng commune, which was formerly part of Kandal province’s Muk Kampoul district before being re-zoned earlier this year.
Ly Yong Phat has been involved in contentious land disputes in Oddar Meanchey and Kampong Speu provinces with villagers who claim to have been displaced by his development projects. Muk Kampoul district deputy police chief Koang Siphal said, however, that the land in Bak Kheng commune was uninhabited forest purchased by Ly Yong Phat several years ago. We will try to construct this after the first few phases of our satellite city outside of the city.
LOL, so it WILL open 2 years ago.
AsianDragons January 13th, 2013, 10:18 AM ^^ more like 2021
AsianDragons January 15th, 2013, 11:19 AM how many non-stop services do we have to phnom penh that doesnt require a change of bus at the border?
mrfusion January 21st, 2013, 04:15 AM I read in the Chinese paper "Global Trade Development" company has withdraw and will no longer work on the PP Bus Service, they say their is a lack of demand and is not happy to compete with Korean "City Trans".
HarroDom January 21st, 2013, 04:31 AM Sad news :(
HarroDom January 21st, 2013, 04:34 AM I still wonder though, whatever happened to the sky train project and ring road projecT?
SeeMacau January 22nd, 2013, 04:13 AM Korean "City Trans"? Can you tell us more about this project :)
mrfusion January 22nd, 2013, 04:27 AM Korean "City Trans"? Can you tell us more about this project :)
AD post the articles on 1st Oct that 2 company win the bid to run the services, this week, one of them drop out.
No one seems to know much about this 2 company.
Most company does not have a online presence, and it will be almost impossible to research anything about them.
AsianDragons January 22nd, 2013, 07:44 AM ^^ i believe they are just faking it
SeeMacau January 23rd, 2013, 03:18 AM The government can set up its own company to run the city bus. This kind of investment is difficult to cover its costs only through fare revenue.
mrfusion January 23rd, 2013, 03:23 AM The government can set up its own company to run the city bus. This kind of investment is difficult to cover its costs only through fare revenue.
I agree, public transport should be run and operate by government. Government may need to review the tax structure to increase its revenue.
HarroDom January 24th, 2013, 04:26 AM lol i was bored today so i emailed people from phnom penh gov about city public transportation systems. highly doubt they will reply
HarroDom January 25th, 2013, 09:48 PM Guys! I cant believe it the people at the Capital Hall of Phnom Penh replied. They said that they are currently working on the transportation system. No Sky Train till the future. they said they will start planning on that when they start the construction of the new airport in Kampong Chhnang. Currently they are almost done all the planning of the City Bus.The public bus is on the process. Expect the Public bus to be here soon. :D
Asian January 25th, 2013, 10:30 PM Guys! I cant believe it the people at the Capital Hall of Phnom Penh replied. They said that they are currently working on the transportation system. No Sky Train till the future. they said they will start planning on that when they start the construction of the new airport in Kampong Chhnang. Currently they are almost done all the planning of the City Bus.The public bus is on the process. Expect the Public bus to be here soon. :D
Good job. Thanks. So, Kampong Chhnang seems to be the new location for PPIA.
HarroDom January 26th, 2013, 12:54 AM I emailed them saying what will the routes be and what the city bus will looks like.
mrfusion January 26th, 2013, 01:37 AM I emailed them saying what will the routes be and what the city bus will looks like.
they will tell you they are working on it.
HarroDom January 31st, 2013, 05:06 AM no replys yet :(
HarroDom February 2nd, 2013, 03:26 AM Just got a document from them
tickets will cost 1400 riel
https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgLyfHHMseFNlnqnAg0C4pBFZ5-k4VuRj9L7fi214zxn5oC6PtHxHdHXTYbEjoUdeg-3zBP4A00LWEqIETKq6--Gj6I-EOzub7gFMMuUbJb-1HOqo4zp2T5TRyhLzwPiAlSO-zs&q=cache%3ARMnYIhbCaPwJ%3Awww.easts.info%2Fpublications%2Fjournal_proceedings%2Fats%2FATS_PDF%2FVol-1-Issue-3%2F(4)ATS_Vol_1-Issue_3.pdf%20&docid=4258e0beba7c85f1a9971a8d7ff422b1&a=bi&pagenumber=4&w=800
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8436100641_4f07e5511f_z.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8224/8436102995_7e683cf6e3_z.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8073/8436106927_c7294eaf80_z.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8082/8436111661_5739373ca2_z.jpg
amigo009 February 2nd, 2013, 02:36 PM so....you got it from the phnompenh city hall right..?
HarroDom February 2nd, 2013, 05:44 PM ^^ Capital Hall
costaveha February 3rd, 2013, 01:50 PM When do we expect the service come in place?
amigo009 February 4th, 2013, 05:11 AM i used to read the news in phnompenh.gov.kh .....and they said they will start their service before Khmer new year....
HarroDom February 19th, 2013, 07:38 PM Cant find full article
Single Company to Run Public Buses in Phnom Penh
Phnom Penh could have a public bus system operating under a single company before the end of 2013 at the earliest, Phnom Penh governor Kep Chuktema said yesterday.
Global (Cambodia) Trade Development, a joint venture between Cambodian and Chinese investors, had originally been chosen alongside South Korean company City Trans Cambodia to operate a public bus system, but a Global Trade Development official had said they wanted to work alone and will drop out of the bid. …
KhmerArchitect March 3rd, 2013, 05:18 AM https://www.morebooks.de/assets/product_images/9783847344/big/3144377/stated-preference-analysis-of-bus-service-attributes-in-phnom-penh.jpg?locale=gb
mrfusion March 3rd, 2013, 10:20 AM Motortup must be banned, at least in the major streets, for the bus service to work.
Happynoel March 17th, 2013, 09:34 AM ok bus will be planned in 2035. (20+ yrs) from now.. let's count down..
AsianDragons March 17th, 2013, 09:37 AM :lol: ^^
AsianDragons March 17th, 2013, 09:38 AM ok bus will be planned in 2035. (20+ yrs) from now.. let's count down..
welcome to cambodia forum
AsianDragons March 17th, 2013, 09:38 AM @happynoel would you like to introduce yourself here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1129471&page=8
KhmerArchitect March 22nd, 2013, 02:50 AM Vientiane had city bus services now, yet phnom penh still doesnt.
Jon Bon March 28th, 2013, 02:14 AM Phnom Penh is taking a more serious approach. They will eventually have public transportation, but it will be on a larger scale than those available now in Vientiane. It will be a combination of elevated light rails and buses due to Phnom Penh's traffic congestion.
SeeMacau March 28th, 2013, 04:20 AM Vientiane had city bus services now, yet phnom penh still doesnt.
I believe that's one reason their traffic is not as bad as ours, they have to import more new buses anyway.
mrfusion March 28th, 2013, 01:13 PM Phnom Penh is taking a more serious approach. They will eventually have public transportation, but it will be on a larger scale than those available now in Vientiane. It will be a combination of elevated light rails and buses due to Phnom Penh's traffic congestion.
If people is willing to (or force to) use public transport, the traffic will not be so congested.
Elevated lightrail? I am not so optimistic.
While we start to talk about PT, and hopefully it becomes real, Vientiane will probably continue to improve.
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