The Monitor (Kampala).

East Africa: Museveni Wants South Sudan, DRC in EAC


President Museveni yesterday asked the East African partner states to speed up the political integration process so as to accelerate prosperity in the region.

The President was opening the Third Meeting of the Fifth Session of the Second Assembly of the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA) in Kampala.

"The EAC was once a mere egg but has now grown into a cock," Mr Museveni said. "(Daniel arap Moi) and myself in 1993 revived the community after it collapsed in 1977. We were fulfilling our historical role of re-assembling the community after the Europeans disassembled the ancient trade area."

He also lobbied for the inclusion of the Democratic Republic of Congo and the newly-independent Republic of South Sudan in the community.

"Re-assembling the ancient trade area is not complete without bringing in South Sudan and DR Congo," Mr Museveni said. "I want to welcome Rwanda and Burundi to the community because it's where they belong, they are part of it."

However, half-way into his speech, the President was momentarily embarrassed after it emerged that his staff had mixed his figures on regional trade. He had wanted to justify the fiscal benefit of federation but was let down by the mix-up. "These people have mixed up my figures. I have to sort out these figures," the President said.

The President told EALA that with a population of 134 million, there is an adequate regional market for the goods produced within the Community.

"Political federation in addition to economic integration is an investment destination and enhances our negotiation club and pools a bigger market," Mr Museveni said.

Rejecting African unity

"We rejected a united Africa because we are different, we are not similar. How will I merge with the Egyptians? This will bring us problems. But in East Africa we are Bantu-speaking people, we all speak Swahili and a political federation is a faster root for integration."

He added: "A political federation cures disequilibrium by transforming the inequalities in some countries into economic opportunities. Political federation is the most rational and the most equitable form of integration. This will ensure development in East Africa."

When asked by reporters whether he was opportunistically fighting for federation to become the first president, President Museveni said: "The issue is not who is the first President of EAC, the issue is that we should have better opportunities in a bigger trading bloc."

Analysts have stressed that economic integration disproportionately favours Kenya, while a political federation would favour the Ugandan President, who is East Africa's longest-serving president.

Uganda has, however, been labelled the "odd man out" because it is the only country in the Community without presidential term limits.

When asked by Lwemiyaga MP Theodore Ssekikubo how Uganda would fit into the federation, President Museveni told the NRM parliamentary caucus last week that he would convince other members to scrap term limits in their respective constitutions. If they object, then term limits will be reinstated in Uganda's Constitution, the President said.


http://allafrica.com/stories/201201250771.html

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I wont be surprised to see JOKA put the country to shame as he always does.

imo DRC needs first to unite its own children and regain territorial intergrity, any talk of intergrating with anyone should be rejected flat out, especially with the EAC. The EAC have a lot of issues they need to first resolve, namely the dangerous Hutu-Tutsi rivalry in Burundu/Rwanda, Kenya being the manufacturing giant of the region, Overpopulation in Uganda/Rwanda, South Sudan, etc. Overall the EAC provides more opportunities than disadvantages for these countries but not for DRC.

They stand to gain more by associating with Congo than vice versa, as proven in the era of Laurent kabila and Kanambe. Under Mobutu, we were the regional power that guaranteed security in some of these very countries, how things change.

The DRC has more potential than the whole EAC, so economic cooperation in the future yes but never intergration. Both are large enough markets to mutually benefit each other and due to our own lack of infrustructure the Mombasa and Dar ports are very valuable to Eastern Congo.

I can think of 2 advantages that they have over us;

1. Larger consumer base
2. English as the working language

Other than that, we have;

1. More natural resources
2. A large enough potential internal market
3. Access to SADC markets
4. The potential to cancel out the importance of Mombasa and Dar ports by building up our own deep port and internal transportation system
5. New oil discoveries so I expect a big finding along the way

A straight attempt to have some sorts of control over DRC. They can always come up with some laws and call them eastern laws that sounds very odds but they have looted the country and noways they want DRC to benefit over this inclusiveness.

Why on earth would DRoC do anything this man has to say? I really hope we don't fall into that trap 'cause that's all it is. "we are Bantu speaking, so we should unite" that doesn't sound like what he tells his militia that's been murdering Congolese by the thousands...

He is Kabila's uncle, so we wont surprised when he goes to sign to join. :lol:

The man has somethig behind his head. Let us hope that Kabila won't accept that.

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Not in current circumstances, but a future merge of CEEAC and EAC would be attractive.

I always envisioned the unions not being too dissimilar to the above image; Egypt leading the north, Nigeria the west, to the east Kenya, in the South South Africa and at the center – there could only be one, so I thought. Suppose SADC is more organised, hence our high involvement in the bloc but playing second fiddle.:nono:

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Not in current circumstances, but a future merge of CEEAC and EAC would be attractive.
I would rather us being alone than joining these the under-standards EAC, CEEAC.

I always envisioned the unions not being too dissimilar to the above image; Egypt leading the north, Nigeria the west, to the east Kenya, in the South South Africa and at the center – there could only be one, so I thought. Suppose SADC is more organised, hence our high involvement in the bloc but playing second fiddle.:nono:
SADC offers us huge challenges and big competition because of SA's might.

Someone tell Museveni that pigs will have to fly before DRcongo join the EAC

dividing africa and waiting for pigs to fly wont do anything. Outside of Africa no one knows the difference and frankly no one cares. Uniting will bring about so many new opportunities so much trade, a large market, lots of investment due to the large market, infrastructure. Thing is every country has something to offer, you can't say that this country is this or that or this country will loose this or that you have to remember that every country is sacrificing something. The DRC has massive potential but y'all are saying that you'd rather have people from outside, people with less common culture develop that potential. East Africans have much more proximity to DRC meaning East African culture will be more acceptable in the DRC meaning much less conflict. People also lack to see that by joining the EAC it kinda means that the countries there are kinda like one country making it hard to attack each other because attacking a member will be like attacking one own self. I don't think we should stick to colonial and imperialistic ideas in which Africa is divided because everybody else just sees one large country with many problem filled provinces. It doesn't mean we should follow what the world showed us but we should prosper.

No Congolese, i repeat, no Congolese want or would want to join east Africa. ... i don't know how you guys should be told to know that.

No surprise "african" is a Kenyan LOL

Interesting point though
People also lack to see that by joining the EAC it kinda means that the countries there are kinda like one country making it hard to attack each other because attacking a member will be like attacking one own self.

Or maybe by joining it it would make it easier for Uganda-Rwanda to attack DRC?

Uganda is poorer than us. why would anyone wants to join a union of poor?

Uganda is a country worth like any other and it has a market which will keep growing. Ppl seem to forget that the greatest resource a country has is its people. But when we go into raw data I was watching CNN Inside Africa which said the DRC was the worlds poorest nation or something of the sort. I checked and its GDP per capita is low so I can't actually say anything more about it bcos ive never visited DRC, and I mean no offence but that's what it said.

And also I didn't say it was a must that DRC join but that ppl need to see the bigger picture. I currently live in Seoul, Korea huge massive city and here people can't tell the difference btn Kenyans, Nigerians, Ghanians or African Americans so thats y I said wht I said not bcos I'm Kenyan but bcos I've experienced what ppl see from Koreans to Americans to Latinos.

Uganda is a country worth like any other and it has a market which will keep growing.

[quote]Ppl seem to forget that the greatest resource a country has is its people. But when we go into raw data I was watching CNN Inside Africa which said the DRC was the worlds poorest nation or something of the sort. I checked and its GDP per capita is low so I can't actually say anything more about it bcos ive never visited DRC, and I mean no offence but that's what it said.
Kagame and his uncle Museveni been building their capitals with stolen money...Stealing from a sick person is a curse in itself. One way or another, sooner or later those two countries will pay, pay more than they've stolen.

BTW: If Uganda was has more than Congo in human resources (which it obviously does not), wouldn't be calling upon Congolese to invest in Uganda.

Build your countries with your own money, your own human resources. not by being thieves.

Moreover; There is nothing Special out there in and about EAC (Minus Tanzania and Kenya ) other than regimes of thieves.

DRC is already a member of SADC and CEEAC. The question is, what are we going to gain by joining EAC?
Refusal to join or participate to something shouldn't be based on hatred. Will it be an advantage for us to join EAC or a disadvantage? Are we going to gain anything new that we don't have with SADC and CEEAC?
What are the benefits to joining EAC? Do they satisfy us? If yes. We should think about it. If no, well theres no point to join EAC. Why would someone buy a PC when he can't even turn it on because he has no electricity? The PC won't be useful.

Eac doesn't fit us culturally and like any union worldwide if there is no link connecting us pointless sitting on the same table. Plus as the saying goes keep it simple. SADC and Ceeac is already working for us. This regions are countries that aren't heavily influenced by Others but their own genuine voice, fitting the profile of what Lumumba said are friend in truth and heart. I would take Somalia with all it's indifference then link with Uganda Kenya or Rwanda.

Eac doesn't fit us culturally and like any union worldwide if there is no link connecting us pointless sitting on the same table. Plus as the saying goes keep it simple. SADC and Ceeac is already working for us. This regions are countries that aren't heavily influenced by Others but their own genuine voice, fitting the profile of what Lumumba said are friend in truth and heart. I would take Somalia with all it's indifference then link with Uganda Kenya or Rwanda.

Haha. Geographically it's a bit weird but I get what you are trying to say. Nothing will make you want to join EAC.
If there's no link with EAC how are linked to SADC countries? Apart from the boot of DRC. What link do we have?
I understand CEEAC but SADC is About benefits innit?

Let me break it down to you in Lumumba's own words.

"in our actions aimed at winning the independance of the Congo we have repeatedly proclaimed we are against no one, but are simply against domination, injustice, and abuses and merely want to free ourselves of the shackles of colonialism and all it's consequences."

Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya are remnants of a Master and Servant state the consequence of colonialism, a playground for stupid superiority complex that the colonialist makes and uses as a display, no reason to link with puppets.

Let me break it down to you in Lumumba's own words.

"in our actions aimed at winning the independance of the Congo we have repeatedly proclaimed we are against no one, but are simply against domination, injustice, and abuses and merely want to free ourselves of the shackles of colonialism and all it's consequences."

Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya are remnants of a Master and Servant state the consequence of colonialism, a playground for stupid superiority complex that the colonialist makes and uses as a display, no reason to link with puppets.

But wouldn't it bring more solidarity in the region if there was real exchange? I know it would be hard for some of them to just stop their relations with their "friends" in a night but It is known that you can obtain peace by starting to trade as your interests are there, in the trade. Real and long term investment don't like the sound of boots, insecurity and etc. If we had started trading in big deals with these countries long time ago and that they were gaining from the trade and we as well, I am sure these wars and insecurity in the region(Grand lacs/east africa)could have been avoided unless their insanity is persistent.
we all know what they want is the soil's wealth. If you we could transform this opportunity into trading between countries. Not only soil but other things as well, in good faith of course, things could have been different.

The problem is probably that they want it for themselves. Which puts an obstacle to regional trading.

Trade begins with the spoken word between two parties. But when it result to extortion, mass killing, rape it is no longer trade. Congo isn't a colony to be either exploited or settled, our own sweat brought us peace. Imagine this idiots M23 are requesting a shopping mall, shops don't exist in Goma, Nakumatt is worth more them peoples lives in Kivu, a year before it was requesting Kenyan Banks into the region, we have no Banks in Kivu? Eac isn't a place of moral stature for Congo to be in lined with nothing puts us in sync with their puppet leAders and master.

Trade begins with the spoken word between two parties. But when it result to extortion, mass killing, rape it is no longer trade. Congo isn't a colony to be either exploited or settled, our own sweat brought us peace. Imagine this idiots M23 are requesting a shopping mall, shops don't exist in Goma, Nakumatt is worth more them peoples lives in Kivu, a year before it was requesting Kenyan Banks into the region, we have no Banks in Kivu? Eac isn't a place of moral stature for Congo to be in lined with nothing puts us in sync with their puppet leAders and master.

I am not saying to start trading now. In the future or if it was done in the past. But the history of the region wouldn't have allowed it.
But I still think trade , real trade ,not what they are doing as you listed, could save this region from destruction. Which we could benefit from. But they don't seem to like the idea of peace in the region. Which destroys the possibility of real investment.
That grievance made me laugh. Apparently when they met for a while in Kampala Kabila asked Runiga, if they build shops with guns? I'll look for the quote.

When talking about Ug I didn't mean to compare it to DRC in terms of population or anything. I meant that Ug has ppl some who have ideas, some who need things like basic utilities so they have a market which is going to grow. With a market a good produced in any EAC country could be sold there. This generates employment for the EAC countries citizens raises the standards of living and the economies keep growing bcos theres more inter-EAC trade. Where an EAC member produces something that another doesn't it'll be much cheaper to buy amongst EAC members rather than from China, the EU or the Americas. It'll employ ur fellow African and Africa's companies which could grow till they spread across the world and bring the money back to Africa. They'll invest in Africa and bring employment thus stabilisation ppl will stop joining militias and actually make something of themselves.

Hence SADC is there freely trading in Congo. SADC will grow and prosper trade of goods will come and go with that wealth we can watch the region prosper and later on extend our good and services to Africa and the rest of the world. Eac ain't that important to Congo we are invested in a greater prize.

And also I didn't say it was a must that DRC join but that ppl need to see the bigger picture.
:lol:

The bigger picture is that EAC needs DRC but DRC does Not need EAC.

I currently live in Seoul, Korea huge massive city and here people can't tell the difference btn Kenyans, Nigerians, Ghanians or African Americans so thats y I said wht I said not bcos I'm Kenyan but bcos I've experienced what ppl see from Koreans to Americans to Latinos.
Why does it matter if they cannot tell differences between black people. we cannot tell differences between Japanese, Chinese, Koreans etc....they look alike as well.


Do you understand that Congolese don't need, nor want, neither would they ever join EAC?

What would we want to be in same union as thieves, highly tribalists (with exception of TZ), people who want nothing but doom for us.

DRC is already a member of SADC and CEEAC. The question is, what are we going to gain by joining EAC?
Thats my point...I ask EAC forumers that question none of them able to answer me that question.


Refusal to join or participate to something shouldn't be based on hatred.
They cultivate hate.
Will it be an advantage for us to join EAC or a disadvantage? Are we going to gain anything new that we don't have with SADC and CEEAC?
What are the benefits to joining EAC? Do they satisfy us? If yes. We should think about it. If no, well theres no point to join EAC. Why would someone buy a PC when he can't even turn it on because he has no electricity? The PC won't be useful.

We have no interests there. period.....We need to build a HMB (Heavily Mined Border) with these EAC countries.

What are we gaining from CEEAC?

When talking about Ug I didn't mean to compare it to DRC in terms of population or anything. I meant that Ug has ppl some who have ideas, some who need things like basic utilities so they have a market which is going to grow. With a market a good produced in any EAC country could be sold there. This generates employment for the EAC countries citizens raises the standards of living and the economies keep growing bcos theres more inter-EAC trade. Where an EAC member produces something that another doesn't it'll be much cheaper to buy amongst EAC members rather than from China, the EU or the Americas. It'll employ ur fellow African and Africa's companies which could grow till they spread across the world and bring the money back to Africa. They'll invest in Africa and bring employment thus stabilisation ppl will stop joining militias and actually make something of themselves.
The ideas of having Region economic communities are nice.....Indeed Africans need to trade with another and thats how we r going to develop economies.

SADC is making good progress, nor are we rushing. i like the development speed its at.

Some of your EAC members on the other hand r busy trying to build economies based on blood, curse , stolen wealth of it sick neighbor. Thats what Special about EAC.

We have o desire to trade with such people.....I would rather by Chinese, Ethiopian , Somali, Egyptians products than EAC's.

What are we gaining from CEEAC?

It's a useless community (just the name like AU). but a respectful one. everyone minds their own business.

It's not a useless community. Year in year out Kenya and Tanzania haven't been the best of friends but then all of a sudden Tanzania opened up to EAC trade and when it did exports jumped, Kenyan companies have gone to Tanzania and right now Tanzania is expected to be the top buyer of Kenyan goods. Lets go somewhere else to Uganda the Uganda securities exchange has really been lifted up by Kenyan companies. The Nairobi bourse itself is the second best in the Middle East and Africa. Projects like the Arusha - Namanga - Athi River road have been completed without the trade there wouldn't be a need for the road without the road there won't have been much development along the border towns. There's also something else the EAC members are benefitting non- EAC members. For example Kenya wants to spruce up manufacturing it needs power. Kenyan scientists have already been sent to places like Slovakia and S. Korea for training. But anyway because it would take too long even thou on course. So it intends to buy power from Ethiopia so they are building interconnected grid lines from Ethiopia to Kenya which already has a connected grid to the rest of EAC or at least some of it. There's also the Lamu port project which has already begun with the first three berths expected to be completed soon. The port provides an alternative route for S Sudan and Ethiopia to take goods outta their countries. It entails the construction of railways, pipelines, roads and all kinds of infrastructure but thats not what's fascinating its that the governments involved have decided to kinda take on the project together its massive yes but achievable its not another white elephant bcos international firms have expressed interest in it.

On to other things the Chinese aren't there to help anyone but promote their agenda buy the Ethiopian and Somali stuff if not EAC but u dont want to buy EAC please don't tell me that EAC goods are sub standard. Kenya exports meat to the Middle East, Coffee and flowers to W Europe, the US and Far East. Kenyan coffee helps in improving the quality of Brazilian coffee. But I will say I'm very surprised if the case becomes the fact that EAC goods become sub standard bcos u think the Ethiopians and Somalis are of higher state. Somalia was recently liberated with Kenya Defence Forces help we lost men there we have lost civilians due to that but I think its worth it no one wanted to do anything about it bcos even the mighty US failed. I will say this if someone wunt buy goods bcos they think they are sub standard what does that say about us are we racist to ourselves as the world is racist to us.

Abraham Lincoln and William Pitt the younger wrong too were never wrong. The goods produced are of the same standard and if you think everyone else's stuff is far much better then you are wrong. Search for the things I've said above just to be sure. Some like the projects are all in the threads in Skyscrapercity.

I did not know you guys have inferiority complex issues till i visited this thread. Drc have no business joining eac because we have a bigger catch(sadc) so? Drc have no business with poorer countries(ouch),each got thieving leaders and master servant systems(lol), eac needs us more than we need them.
Last time i checked drc was not problem-free so keep the pride to yourselves and be subjective and objective.

Be subjective and swallow the objective truth "we don't need EAC." take swallow it till you hiccup, life continues without us begin a member of EAC, so stop your bitching like a whore denied at a red light window. Move on shit.

Be subjective and swallow the objective truth "we don't need EAC." take swallow it till you hiccup, life continues without us begin a member of EAC, so stop your bitching like a whore denied at a red light window. Move on shit.

You better define first what your 'we' means, no eac member has gone shopping for drc catch, its your leaders who want to join eac so why dont you eat the humble pie and criticize your leaders before taking on eac:bash:

The Democratic Republic of Congo could soon join the East African Community following its application for an observer status in the bloc.

The DRC government had already designated Juma-Alfani Mpango as its ambassador to the EAC.

Mr Mpango, who presented his credentials to the EAC Secretary General Juma Mwapachu recently, applied for DRC to be granted an observer status in the EAC.

A country attains an observer status before becoming a full member.

Were DRC’s application to be accepted and its likely membership request accepted, it would be a big boost to the trading bloc already boasting five countries with a combined population of 126.6 million and a gross domestic product of $73 billion.

Mr Mpango said that DRC is keen to work with the EAC to exploit its vast potential in energy, minerals and water as the EAC will offer transport facilities via the North, South and Central corridors as well as the ports of Dar es Salaam and Mombasa.



Read here (http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/We-want-to-join-you-DRC-tells-regional-bloc/-/2558/964372/-/view/printVersion/-/26a8td/-/index.html)

Guys, calm down. Those are some good projects Africa and Dhuks thanks for posting. A nation will not grow if it doesn't understand how to profit from their neighbours. We've seen it with history. Congo is a country the chance to exploit several points. Like I said before, with CEEAC, SADC and if possible EAC. What other country has that chance?
However EAC seems to be a community that is growing fast as we see with Kenya, TZ, Rwanda and Uganda. Strong countries, their economy is I think is getting better. So, those point that are in Dhuks' post aren't bad. It would be a good way to bring peace in the region, as again countries have their interests in the trade so trying to destroy would only destroy you. However we've seen in history Germany and France fighting each other several times, they were true enemies but today they are trading they live side by side without any major incident. Why wouldn't Congo and it's terrible neighbours Rwanda and Uganda put the past behind and start calming things down, for the region and the people?
For me, if joining the EAC doesn't bring peace in Eastern DRC, I don't see the point. That's my point. EAC could provide some to DRC but peace is the priority for me.
If they Show true solidarity, because a community needs to be united to work efficiently, then I don't see any problem.
DRC's first interest in joining EAC is at first sight the development of Eastern DRC that goes from Oriental Province to at least Katanga. But Katanga would already gain from SADC as well, but yeah. We all know what's going on in E-DRC.

Wow... All I can say is I agree with Dhuks.

Guys, calm down. Those are some good projects Africa and Dhuks thanks for posting. A nation will not grow if it doesn't understand how to profit from their neighbours. We've seen it with history. Congo is a country the chance to exploit several points. Like I said before, with CEEAC, SADC and if possible EAC. What other country has that chance?
However EAC seems to be a community that is growing fast as we see with Kenya, TZ, Rwanda and Uganda. Strong countries, their economy is I think is getting better. So, those point that are in Dhuks' post aren't bad. It would be a good way to bring peace in the region, as again countries have their interests in the trade so trying to destroy would only destroy you. However we've seen in history Germany and France fighting each other several times, they were true enemies but today they are trading they live side by side without any major incident. Why wouldn't Congo and it's terrible neighbours Rwanda and Uganda put the past behind and start calming things down, for the region and the people?
For me, if joining the EAC doesn't bring peace in Eastern DRC, I don't see the point. That's my point. EAC could provide some to DRC but peace is the priority for me.
If they Show true solidarity, because a community needs to be united to work efficiently, then I don't see any problem.
DRC's first interest in joining EAC is at first sight the development of Eastern DRC that goes from Oriental Province to at least Katanga. But Katanga would already gain from SADC as well, but yeah. We all know what's going on in E-DRC.

Germany and France fought each other over ideological differences not each others resources they both had colonies for that. Congo and EAC is between a home owner and a robber one will eventual have to shoot the other to safeguard his property.

Germany and France fought each other over ideological differences not each others resources they both had colonies for that. Congo and EAC is between a home owner and a robber one will eventual have to shoot the other to safeguard his property.

Yes, I understand that but what I tried to say is that they were not getting along. Why they were enemies? That's that, like them, Rwanda and DRC aren't on the same wavelength.

I think DRC should join the EAC. If we don't see any improvement we could always get out. EAC probably needs DRC more than DRC needs the EAC anyways. We should join the EAC.

I think DRC should join the EAC. If we don't see any improvement we could always get out. EAC probably needs DRC more than DRC needs the EAC anyways. We should join the EAC.

What kind of juice are you drinking? Take your province there. not mine :ohno: ... and how are you going to join something that doesn't even work? Good luck on joining those who want armagendon for you.

What kind of juice are you drinking? Take your province there. not mine :ohno: ... and how are you going to join something that doesn't even work? Good luck on joining those who want armagendon for you.

I can't take my province without taking yours with me. :lol:

I think DRC should join the EAC. If we don't see any improvement we could always get out. EAC probably needs DRC more than DRC needs the EAC anyways. We should join the EAC.

+1

Smart man,illogical nationalism is killing the continent.

You better define first what your 'we' means, no eac member has gone shopping for drc catch, its your leaders who want to join eac so why dont you eat the humble pie and criticize your leaders before taking on eac:bash:
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You EAC Museveni,your idol Kagame obvously want DRC the article you posted is utter rubbish from you EAC prpaganda department...

MBA said the reality.. DRC does not need EAC. Ethiopia has a bigger population than us and you guys have a better relation. Also add S.Sudan
. In facts Kagame you guys idol also wants N.Sudan....

I don't get why you guys (except Tanzania ) want, you now have Oil, you have plenty of water and othet resources , you pleanty of Land and more people.


We r fine the way we r and i think you guys r fine the way you r...

I can't take my province without taking yours with me. :lol:

No you can go alone. Why do you need my province?

No you can go alone. Why do you need my province?

Same reason South Korea needs North Korea. :lol:

Same reason South Korea needs North Korea. :lol:

This aint about ideology... if you want to join those who still from a sick person....you r on your own.

No you can go alone. Why do you need my province?

Will cross his cattle across the border our slaughter him along with his cattle home that's the only option clear to him.

More reason for Butembo and MBA-Congo to hate EAC.

http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/639920-timber-hungry-neighbours-want-a-piece-of-congo.html

And which Congolese would like to be part of a group that wants, wish doom for Congo?

Everything has a price, one way or the other. Their 40th day to pay what they stole from us will come one day when they have to pay. They aint going to run away.

Not only what they stole , but what they did as well. the blood of Congolese will one day be paid. in full price.

Kanambe wont live on forever.

DRC is already a member of SADC and CEEAC. The question is, what are we going to gain by joining EAC?
Refusal to join or participate to something shouldn't be based on hatred. Will it be an advantage for us to join EAC or a disadvantage? Are we going to gain anything new that we don't have with SADC and CEEAC?
What are the benefits to joining EAC? Do they satisfy us? If yes. We should think about it. If no, well theres no point to join EAC. Why would someone buy a PC when he can't even turn it on because he has no electricity? The PC won't be useful.


As of now, Congo's ambassador to Tanzania is also Congo's ambassador to the EAC. The same thing you see in Belgium where Congo's ambassador to Belgium doubles up as Congo's ambassador to the EU.

Thus Congo has a diplomat to the EAC. Let's hope they keep it at that.

Museveni was not happy when Kabila FATHER chose to align to SADC instead of EAC. It could be concluded that Kabila father went to SADC to protest Uganda and Rwanda invasion of East DRC during 1998 second Congo war.

Museveni pressing for a Congo expansion could bring the SADC and EAC to war. Note that the UN force being sent to Eastern DRC will be comprised of South Africans and Tanzanians soldiers, both SADC members ( although Tanzania is also a EAC member)

As of now, Congo's ambassador to Tanzania is also Congo's ambassador to the EAC. The same thing you see in Belgium where Congo's ambassador to Belgium doubles up as Congo's ambassador to the EU.

Thus Congo has a diplomat to the EAC. Let's hope they keep it at that.

Museveni was not happy when Kabila FATHER chose to align to SADC instead of EAC. It could be concluded that Kabila father went to SADC to protest Uganda and Rwanda invasion of East DRC during 1998 second Congo war.

Museveni pressing for a Congo expansion could bring the SADC and EAC to war. Note that the UN force being sent to Eastern DRC will be comprised of South Africans and Tanzanians soldiers, both SADC members ( although Tanzania is also a EAC member)

Mzee Kabila was allied with the SADC communist/socialist party before he even declared himself president.

It wasn't a coensidence that DRC joined SADC, it goes further than just the war between DRC and those blood thirsty and thieves Museveni and Kagame.

DRC (as Zaire) was supposed to become one of the founding members of SADC , but Angola objected to that because Zaire's Mobutu was a strong supporter and base for UNITA's Savimbi who wans't liked by communist governments of SADC which are strong allies and communist just like Do Santos' Angola.

Uganda and Rwanda also applied in 2000 ( i think, if not in 1999) to become SADC members and all SADC members rejected them due to their thievery and war launched at DRC.

Kagame and his Tutsi empire together with Uganda's Museveni's ambitions are to expand into DRC. we even have a president who works very well for these two mass murders. Not so crazy with Rwandese Tutsis in our army and senior posts in the country's institutions.