When this video was created? History of Belarus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw-PECzBqQs&feature=related)

I was surprised of hip hop form.

I noticed first Belarussian coat of arms - Пагоня (Polish: Pogoń)

There is no word about this bastard Lukashenka.

Is that mean it isn't shit?

This video was created in 2011. The team created this video tried to make a video that will be not forbidden. As I know they can tell nothing good about Lukashenko. That's why the video was stopped before his election.
Sorry, but didn't catch the question about shit.

Belarussian
Belarus - Belarusian

This video was created in 2011. The team created this video tried to make a video that will be not forbidden. As I know they can tell nothing good about Lukashenko. That's why the video was stopped before his election.
Sorry, but didn't catch the question about shit.
Он, видимо, удивился тому, что про Лукашенко ничего не сказано, про все плохое сказали, а про Лукашенко нет... значит Лукашенко не "плохое"? - справшивает он ))

It is a good idea to finish the video in 1994. If it will be continued, better it will end on good events, not with hopeless tragical final.

Он, видимо, удивился тому, что про Лукашенко ничего не сказано, про все плохое сказали, а про Лукашенко нет... значит Лукашенко не "плохое"? - справшивает он ))

I'm happy nothing has been said to support Lukashenka.

I hope this year he would be kicked out and Belarus could become democratic country as the other ones.

You said I was surprised nothing has been said regarding silly Lukashenko. Yes I was than I asked in which year video has been made. I supposed after 2000 but I didn't know it was done in 2011 after 2010 "polling".

I like Belarus and I support Belarusians but I hate Lukashenka "The lumpy bastard" and I'm looking forward the times when I could travel Belarus without fear any bloody idiot in uniform will demand briba or thread me putting myself behind the bars into any upset prison.

Everyone deserved for better fate - communism must fall. In several countries in Europe and Asia communism had been fallen and people live better and safer than they had lived any time before.

All are tired of fighting and just waiting
How long to wait? No one knows.

It looks like changes in our life may come from the east. As it happened to other East European countries about 20 years ago.

It looks like changes in our life may come from the east. As it happened to other East European countries about 20 years ago.


Changes to worse?

Russia is fallen country. No chance for them to achieve any good future with present politics, they couldn't gain anything positive with Putin and his gang. Corruption, AIDS, alcoholizm, drugs usage (8-10 more drug addicters per given number of citizens than in any of UE country), enslavement... What would you expect from east?

Poland, Hungary, Czech Republik, Lithuania, Latvia, Slovakia, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria just seized the oppurtunity the Soviet Union was weaken after arms race with USA and Western Block. They have said farewell or cheers, we are choosing freedom for our people and free economy. Soviet Union was unable to compete with capitalistic Westerns. Today Russia has no modern technologies, no high-tech, no human resources, no society which could be able build coutry and rise its power. Russia has nuclear bombs and natural resources like coal, timber, oil, gas and roughtly 140 millions of enslaved people whose even doesn't fancy to breed and country fast depopulating, nothing more. And I almost forgot - and Putin and his numerous apprentices keeping eye on them all of their life and preaching nuts about foreign enemies guilty for country's disasters.

Have look - no one of former communistics countries shake the russian hand, only some of former Soviet Union republics support Russia's authorities. Everyone knows here very well - Russians never bring prosperity, they only able to bring mass murder, enslavement and economic ruin.

In my opinion Belarusians put themselves into the trap in 1994 like Ukrainians recently. They have chosen guy who promised them the times of blissful Soviet Union would come back. No one nation anywhere else does something similar.

Let turn your head in different direction not to Moscow. You aren't muslims to being forced turning heads towards only one direction and credit only one rightful idea. Stop to watch ruskies, find a knowledge - world is too big and too wide to waste the time for ruskies and their existencial problems like who is an enemy today and who will be tomorrow.

Luka is bastard but he will in power until people in Belarus will repeat the mantra: бульба толькі дома, і што б вайны не было. (I hope I translated correctly if not apologising).

Second total war finished 65 years ago and time to stop afraid of another one. Who might attack Belarus? Poland? Lithuania? Latvia? I bet only Russia could attack Belarus when Lukashenka would become invalid and useless.

I support Belarus and Belarusians with their rights to be free people but please don't watch to Moscow. Russia is like black hole sun - it only wants to feed but never gives anything good in return.

You did not understand my idea: Belarus in no more independent (like East Europe more than 20 years ago). We are loosing our independence from month to month. Belarusians was trying to struggle with the regime. But the regime was stronger. And the regime have shown it will not retreat peacefully. Nobody wants to have a civil war in Belarus. But the bloodless changes are possible only when Russia would stop their support.
Unfortunately now I hope just for the changes in the east because they didn't happen from inside.

You did not understand my idea: Belarus in no more independent (like East Europe more than 20 years ago). We are loosing our independence from month to month. Belarusians was trying to struggle with the regime. But the regime was stronger. And the regime have shown it will not retreat peacefully. Nobody wants to have a civil war in Belarus. But the bloodless changes are possible only when Russia would stop their support.
Unfortunately now I hope just for the changes in the east because they didn't happen from inside.
В России изменений не будет. А Путину с Медведевым выгодно поддерживать Лукашенко.
Так что выход один - народный протест. Диктаторы просто так власть никогда не отдают. Но когда люди начнут высказывать свой протест? Без понятия. Может и никогда.
Сейчас, как ни крути, у нас ситуации для протестских настроений - нет. Они могут возникнуть только при куда более серьезных экономических проблемах. Люди у нас уж слишком терпеливые.
Возможно, когда существенно сократят рабочих на заводах и фабриках, инфляция будет как в Зимбабве - тогда (может быть!) достаточное количество людей начнет выходить на улицы и чего-то требовать.
Но, боюсь, что таже Россия, как всегда, "подставит плечо" и мы так и будем продолжать существовать. Стабильно.
А простые россияне нихрена не понимая, что их политики делают нам только хуже своими поддержками Луки, будут еще на нас и обижаться в стиле "мы вас кормим". Идиотская ситуация.

I'm happy nothing has been said to support Lukashenka.

I hope this year he would be kicked out and Belarus could become democratic country as the other ones.

You said I was surprised nothing has been said regarding silly Lukashenko. Yes I was than I asked in which year video has been made. I supposed after 2000 but I didn't know it was done in 2011 after 2010 "polling".

I like Belarus and I support Belarusians but I hate Lukashenka "The lumpy bastard" and I'm looking forward the times when I could travel Belarus without fear any bloody idiot in uniform will demand briba or thread me putting myself behind the bars into any upset prison.

Everyone deserved for better fate - communism must fall. In several countries in Europe and Asia communism had been fallen and people live better and safer than they had lived any time before.:bash::bash:

You did not understand my idea: Belarus in no more independent (like East Europe more than 20 years ago). We are loosing our independence from month to month. Belarusians was trying to struggle with the regime. But the regime was stronger. And the regime have shown it will not retreat peacefully. Nobody wants to have a civil war in Belarus. But the bloodless changes are possible only when Russia would stop their support.
Unfortunately now I hope just for the changes in the east because they didn't happen from inside.

I understood very well what have typed in first post.

You can't wait until Putinocchio will ceased his power over mighty Russia. In March he going to win the polling and he will take a power for 6 years, after he will do the same for next six years... are you want do wait twelve years until Putinocchio give the favour and leave... Too long my friend. During that time all of the world outside despite of crisis or something else will go forward and develop societes and economy, after that time Belarusians will be in shock what they've lost and they would be very unhappy (to be honest most of them will leave the country forever).

Obviously nobody wants to spill the blood in Belarus but when I'm reading something about your country I'm in worry this could be happened. Situation getting worse and Luka does everything to oppress people and even push them away abroad - he claims to put some addictional fees for those citizens whose had enought courage (or just had no choice) to work abroad. Sick.

I disagree with you to keep waiting, even ruskies started to refuse and claim they aren't cattle. I agree with them, they aren't cattle and they have normal rights as the others.

Regime is stronger. Yes it is, but in my country was much stronger and we fought from the beginning to win in 1989.

First riot against Soviet Union in Szczecin my home town - 1951 (http://szczecin.gazeta.pl/szczecin/1,34959,9403022,Jak_Danila_Nieczupej_zamieszki_wywolal.html) Drunken soviet soldier killed couple of people over the street, people got angry and made a big mess. Some of them were arrested and sentenced despite of they were innocent. First seed of hatred to CCCP was sowed in our minds. Sorry in Polish. Stalin ruled Soviet Union and despite of we had said you can't f..k with us.

1956 - Poland and Hungary.

Poznań 1956 protests in June (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozna%C5%84_1956_protests) - more than 100 thousands participants protested against communistic regime. It started from illegally charged benefits from the most efficient employees, they iniciated a strike, authorities firstly made a deal with them but they had revoked what they dealt with workers. Strike, milicja started to shot, finally revolt. Even kids were killed. Polish communistic regime kept Poznań isolate at those days but shortly after people in whole of the country knew what was happened.

November 1956 - Hungarian Revolution 1956 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956). they rose thier heads as well, Soviet Army killed thousands of them, but they have never forgotten who they are and for they have fought and being killed. Polish society supports them despite of communism and shortly after Poznań revolution.

Prague spring 1968 - Warsaw Block armies entered into Czechoslovakia to suppress the peaceful revolution in Czechoslovakia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring). Many people were killed by soviet army list of victims, a lot of them. (http://www.ustrcr.cz/en/august-1968-victims-of-the-occupation)

December 1970 - Polish 1970 protests (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_1970_protests). We rose our heads again despite of communistic regime cruelty.

1982 Poland - Marital law in Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_Poland) Solidarity was too strong for communists, than they tried to choke organisation and citizens by introducing a martial law in December 1982. A lot of people were killed or arrested.

1988 Poland - strikes across the country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Polish_strikes). Last mass protest against the communist party in Poland, a lot of people took part on it were arrested later.

1989 Romania - those revolution wasn't effective (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Revolution_of_1989), they killed their dictator but some guys from second line of communistic party took power over the nation. They just got rid of awkward witness like dictator Ceausescu and his wife. Look for causes, one of them was poverty, much bigger poverty than in different contries. In Belarus is the same, even Ukraine started to associate with UE to obtain any visible benefits.

As you see a lot of people fought against systems in much worser conditions and with more cruel systems. In Belarus system created by Luka is repressive but as bad as some former dictatorships were like in Romania or anyone before 1956.

In Belarus if people will not try to kick out Luka could be the same when any group will lost everything except their lifes.

I am really curious why are Polish people so obsessed with Lukashenko?

I am really curious why are Polish people so obsessed with Lukashenko?

I't just like when you hear your neighbour is beating his wife. Some people believe it would be moral to react somehow and help her.

I'm courious why do YOU react negatively on such "obsession"? What do those hammers under Marcin's post mean? Do you like Lukashenko? Please expain your position.

@Marcin - I agree with you, and I think most of people sitting here agree that Luka is an asshole. The problem is - how to remove him. Some people write that we should wait. It doesn't mean they are cowards. The experience of 19.12.2010 shows us that Luka is able to crush a demonstration of about 40 thousands of people in about 5-7 minutes. He is really well prepared for it - he was building police and military for many years, and he is still making it stronger. Demonstration has no chance to stand agaist the police. What if not 40 thousand, but 100 thousands will go on the street, what if Luka will loose control over it? He will order to open fire. I'm 100% sure he will do that, because he murdered people before. OK, let's take a completely unrealistic idea, that after that, demonstrations will not stop somehow. What then? Brotherly Russia will come to help. Again, I have no doubts that Russia will help Luka to kill as many Belarusians as it is needed. Syria is a good example of that, where Russia is equipping army with ammunition used to commit genocide, and Uzbekistan (Andijan massacre) is an example how Russia is defending its compromised puppets from international punishment.

So, Belarus has a chance to become free only when Luka will lost support from Moscow. It is possible only in situation of deep political instability inside of Russia. So, Putin must fall. And that's what people are suggesting to wati for, I guess. But not for the end of Putin's term, of course. Putin doesn't care about any terms, because he is not a democratic leader. He must be removed by other way.

Кажется некоторые поляки спать нормально не могут, пока Россия существует на карте мира :)

Oh dear, thread on history of Belarus turns into political bashing between Poles and Russians. How convenient.