I didn't found any thread like this here. Here you can post pictures of classic cars. Unlike my Rare cars on your streets thread you are here allowed to post pictures of both common and rare cars. It doesn't matter where the pictures was taken. I have one simple rule. The pictures got to be taken by you or some friend. I don't want any pictures from the internet in this thread.

I will start out with this Volvo 142 I saw today in Ljungby :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo142004.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo142005.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo142006.jpg

^^ Beautiful exaple :cheers:

MB W116, spotted yesterday in a nearby city in my metro area:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/Zdjcie0752.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/Zdjcie0751.jpg

Thanks for your contribution and yes the Volvo 142 is nice :cheers: :)

Here's some more pics. Most of them already posted in the Rare cars on your streets thread, but I think they deserve to be here as well :) I might as well put them here now.

Mercedes Benz W115
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Guess%20the%20car/Mercedes.jpg

Opel Rekord
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel2.jpg

Renault 12
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Renault.jpg

Saab 95
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab.jpg

Saab 99
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab2.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab3.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab4.jpg

Volvo Amazon
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo8.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo9.jpg

BMW 518
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/BMW002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/BMW001.jpg

:cheers:

Spotted today in Rybnik, southern Poland. Two vintage vehicles from commie times.

Romanian Dacia 1310P

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/Zdjcie0758.jpg

East German IFA S4000

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/Zdjcie0759.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/Zdjcie0760.jpg

Romanian Dacia 1310P



During the communist era in Poland. Let's say in 1985. What new cars could you choose from ?

Trabant: were these popular in Poland or mostly in the GDR ?
Wartburg
Moskwitsch
VAZ
Volga
Dacia
Skoda

Actually I think the Trabants were not sold in the Soviet union- correct ?

VAZ, Moskwitsch (very few) and Skoda were sold in Scandinavia in the 1970-80's but not Trabant, Volga, Wartburg and Dacia.

In Finland (western country) also Volga and Wartburg were sold.

Skoda is now considered to be a full quality car because of VW cooperation, Dacia is a budget car with safety issues, Wartburg is gone, VAZ & Volga are not sold in western countries because of poor quality, pollution and safety issues.

Some pictures I've taken here in Oslo (+ surroundings). These are a couple of years old though. Perhaps I will take some more recent one later!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3596/3406280861_d1dcf71d5f_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3181/2653382205_385c2c7ce7_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3133/2652983849_e34f465348_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3529/3467759473_53dafac0c1_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3227/2653087093_29f3934ae3_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3540/3407030460_c2abd02d4a_b.jpg

Continuing from last post.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3549/3397852363_5c7fa52ea4_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3089/2879291385_6776969ab4_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3540/3407125068_897e26abe7_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3424/3397834021_9c916ce140_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3269/2653036113_2e19e97e4c_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3271/2653061845_c833d561dd_b.jpg

In Finland (western country) also Volga and Wartburg were sold.


Volga was also sold in Norway until 1980.

^^
Those pictures from Oslo are very nice. This thread will in the summer become full of pictures by me taken in Växjö :) Actually I saw a Mercedes-Benz R107 today but sadly I couldn't take any pics :(

During the communist era in Poland. Let's say in 1985. What new cars could you choose from ?

Trabant: were these popular in Poland or mostly in the GDR ?
Wartburg
Moskwitsch
VAZ
Volga
Dacia
Skoda

Actually I think the Trabants were not sold in the Soviet union- correct ?

VAZ, Moskwitsch (very few) and Skoda were sold in Scandinavia in the 1970-80's but not Trabant, Volga, Wartburg and Dacia.

In Finland (western country) also Volga and Wartburg were sold.

Skoda is now considered to be a full quality car because of VW cooperation, Dacia is a budget car with safety issues, Wartburg is gone, VAZ & Volga are not sold in western countries because of poor quality, pollution and safety issues.

Trabant wasn't sold in Soviet Union. It was exported to Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Poland.

1970s Opel Rekord in Växjö today :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel3.jpg

:cheers:

mini cooper!!http://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4

1970s Opel Ascona in Växjö today :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel3.jpg

:cheers:

This car sure brings back some memories from 1988/89 when I drove this 1973 Opel Rekord Coupé 1900L

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6842424993_a035b180a9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76122035@N02/6842424993/)
Opel Rekord-FFS015 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76122035@N02/6842424993/)

1970s Opel Ascona in Växjö today :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel3.jpg

:cheers:

Rekord actually ;) I love Opel cars of 60s and 70s :chers:


During the communist era in Poland. Let's say in 1985. What new cars could you choose from ?

Trabant: were these popular in Poland or mostly in the GDR ?
Wartburg
Moskwitsch
VAZ
Volga
Dacia
Skoda



The widest availability of eastern-block cars was in 1970s I guess. During all the 80's economy was in deep crisis and at the end of communism in 1989 Poland was literally bankrupt. I guess that's the reason why the choice of cars in 1985 wasn't wide. As I mentioned in rare cars thread if You had western money You could buy western car (mostly via state owned company). From imported soviet-block cars we could choose from Trabant, Wartburg, Skoda, Dacia, Lada, Zaporozhets. Moskvitch probably wasn't offered since around 1980, as I didn't see younger examples. IIRC Volgas generally were not available for private customers, only for state owned companies and institutions. Second hand Volgas were popular among taxidrivers. Not sure about Zastava - assembly in FSO plant ceased in 1983 I belive it wasn't available later on. Tatras were very rare, like Volgas available only to certain companies and institutions.

Some vintage commie-cars spotted in my city:

Trabant (and yes, it was quite popular here, but not as much as in GDR or Hungary)
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0243.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0242.jpg

^^ Note the rear license plate frame :lol: ^^

Polski Fiat 125p (I had one of those in 2003, MY’67)
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0244.jpg

Polski Fiat 126p
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Obraz003.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Obraz002-3.jpg

^^ We were so poor, that such car when new costed aprox. 4 years earnings of average worker :nuts: ^^

Two Skodas, now very rare, but spotted on the same day

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0282.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0285.jpg

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Thanks for your contribution and yes the Volvo 142 is nice :cheers: :)

Here's some more pics. Most of them already posted in the Rare cars on your streets thread, but I think they deserve to be here as well :) I might as well put them here now.

Opel Rekord
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel2.jpg

:cheers:

That car was also produced in Brazil but with a more attractive front part, and it was called Chevrolet Opala:

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/chevrolet-opala-brazil-1969.jpg

http://www.carangosemotocas.com/coberturas/2009/5encontroantigomobilismosaojosedoriopardo/5encontrosaojosedoriopardo027.jpg

It was extremely popular, being one of the best sold large Brazilian cars of all time - actually it continued in production until 1992, far longer than in Germany.

It had a different engine from the Opel Rekord.

Here is the 1975 facelift:

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/img/pictonorzw/chevrolet_brasil/77opala.jpg

And the 1980 facelift:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3365/opaladiplomata198000120.jpg

And the last dinosaur in 1990:

http://images02.olx.com.br/ui/5/27/66/1270825532_86282166_7-OPALA-COMODORO-SLE-1990-Chevrolet-Outro-1270825532.jpg

I'll borrow some pictures of mine from the "rare cars thread"

Old Nissan Patrol at San Felipe (local beach), didn't know they existed on this side of the pond

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6817/2803081103.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/2803081103.jpg/)

1943 Willys MB (property of my stepfather :), though he's selling it soon)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6766/p0111111438.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/p0111111438.jpg/)

1950 Chevrolet Fleetline (I have seen it since I can remember)

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/7622/p02081114501.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/857/p02081114501.jpg/)

1967 Ford Mustang

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/364/0911071619.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/0911071619.jpg/)

Mercedes Benz SL. I spotted this car in LA metro area, the funny thing is that there was a newer model when we entered the restaurant (IHOP), had breakfast and when we left the old SL was exactly at the same place :lol:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/808/1407070936.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/1407070936.jpg/)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2981/1407071031.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/1407071031.jpg/)

MG Midget at Tijuana

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7031/0805081652.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/0805081652.jpg/)

Dunno what the heck this is, spotted at Ensenada

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7593/moto0204j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/moto0204j.jpg/)

,catalog.com/img/pictonorzw/chevrolet_brasil/77opala.jpg[/IMG]

And the 1980 facelift:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3365/opaladiplomata198000120.jpg


interesting, they didn't change the body on the new model like they did on the Opel Rekord in 1978 and 1983.

Continuing from last post.



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3424/3397834021_9c916ce140_b.jpg



It looks like this photo is taken in Berlin :) and do people usually park front to front ?

It looks like this photo is taken in Berlin :) and do people usually park front to front ?

There are no rules on which way to park so it's up to the drivers decide. Many do and many do not.
:)

Here's a few more classic car pictures from Oslo. All taken by me.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3035/2654196548_054c98e742_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3055/2654240924_f8245ed1b8_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3105/2653835820_18333a3536_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3109/2653900798_78fc8a591f_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3183/2653126379_c2d053e918_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3350/3305768373_55c1b2d55c_b.jpg

^^ @Galro, You're puttting a lot of good stuff here. Don't stop :)
As for Opala (I like this kind of cars:)) it had bigger engines than Rekord, including 2,5L and even 4,1L sixes. The latter is huge displacement for european conditions.

MB W123 T in Katowice:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/100_5541.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/100_5540.jpg

^^ @Galro, You're puttting a lot of good stuff here. Don't stop :)
]

I have many more pictures, but I thought I would wait to post them in order to not completely spam the tread. ;)

interesting, they didn't change the body on the new model like they did on the Opel Rekord in 1978 and 1983.

No, only in 1992 did they change the body (and the name, and everything actually) when they brought the Opel Omega, called Chevrolet Omega:

http://www.espacocarro.com.br/upload/anuncio/sam_0007_1.jpg


We also had the estate version of Opala in Brazil, called Chevrolet Caravan:

http://www.r3motors.com.br/classificados/imagens_auto/cli33_us5744_id5537_img.jpg

http://www.carroantigo.com/imagens/GM/1975_CARAVAN.jpg

Only as a two-door, did the Caravan have a four door version in Europe?






As for Opala (I like this kind of cars:)) it had bigger engines than Rekord, including 2,5L and even 4,1L sixes. The latter is huge displacement for european conditions.



Yes, 2,5 liter with 4 liters and 4,1 liter with 6 cylinders. It was derived from the Impala engine.

Only as a two-door, did the Caravan have a four door version in Europe?
Yes, it did:
http://flash.de/uploads/pics/fl_03_11_surprise_04.jpg

Seen today in Växjö :)

Volvo 145

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo145001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo145002.jpg

^^ Why it hasn't wipers on the lights?

^^ Why it hasn't wipers on the lights?

In 1974 all cars sold in sweden had to have wipers on the headlights.

Saab introduced it already on their models in 1972.

Some models had wipers, high pressure washers also were allowed

Volvo, Saab, Opel, Ford had wipers. Mazda, VW had washers only.

In the early 90's this requirement was abolished.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6842414307_0ebc0efe02_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76122035@N02/6842414307/)
MB 230 1978 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76122035@N02/6842414307/)

My 1978 MB 230. Bought it in jan 1993. Sold it in dec 1994.

The headlight wipers on this car was removed, they easilly broke and replacing them was not worth.

^^ Oh so they started to put wipers on the 200 series, right?

^^ Oh so they started to put wipers on the 200 series, right?

Yes all brands had wipers+washers or high pressure washers only, from 1974.

MB had wipers. I tried to find a picture but it's not easy. Most owners removed the headlight wipers when the requirement was abolished.

^^ @Galro, You're puttting a lot of good stuff here. Don't stop :)
]

Here's a few more. :okay: From Oslos suburbs this time.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3265/2738388946_30f8c99d35_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3044/2886560235_6cbceaa071_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3183/2957737649_b62f13c208_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3126/2923867137_ab215c5664_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3127/2760866284_b44fee9d49_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3244/2758689757_7af2d7cb9f_b.jpg

Opel Kadett B (1965-1973)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424001_3257870814650_1503535189_3054047_1388986768_n.jpg

Peugeot 203 (1949-1960)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396489_3257930456141_1503535189_3054111_1779506442_n.jpg

^^ The last one is lovely and rare (at least here in the north). :)

^^ The last one is lovely and rare (at least here in the north). :)

I took that pic in Kostanz (Germany)

No idea of what car is this, I took this pic near Schaffhausen (CH). I suppose only was made in 1928, reading the license plate
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418782_3258057539318_1503535189_3054259_48091039_n.jpg

Maybe I found, could be an Amilcar Riley? That R in the license plate makes me think of it

Volvo 164 (1968-1974). Spotted near San Sebastian de La Gomera, Canary Islands (E)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423473_3258905920527_1503535189_3054596_78289577_n.jpg

^^
:okay: Nice!

Volvo Amazon (1956-1970). Spotted in Stuttgart (D)
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426094_3266661474411_1503535189_3057500_1278282714_n.jpg

A few Oslo classic cars again.:)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2100/2659182724_8b432c4402_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3048/2655757240_6b76984537_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3047/2653407219_f74aa8436e_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3048/2654802343_7d82edf506_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3193/2653038777_7e31205ebc_o.jpg

Another unknown car, spotted in Baden-Baden(D). Seems an Oldsmobile from the badge but I didn't find any model with that front. The only hint I can say, is that in the rear it had a license plate from Oregon series 1975-1988.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425528_3258242863951_690456333_n.jpg

Another unknown car, spotted in Baden-Baden(D). Seems an Oldsmobile from the badge but I didn't find any model with that front. The only hint I can say, is that in the rear it had a license plate from Oregon series 1975-1988.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425528_3258242863951_690456333_n.jpg
Some old Oldsmobile? Oldsmobile 98? Oldsmobile Cutlass?

Volvo 164 at Nostalgia festival in Ronneby 2003 :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Nostalgia%202003/Volvo164.jpg

Some old Oldsmobile? Oldsmobile 98? Oldsmobile Cutlass?

It's not a riddle, I really don't know what car is that. It passed fast and it's the only pic I could take. I ask if somebody knows it for sure...

It's not a riddle, I really don't know what car is that. It passed fast and it's the only pic I could take. I ask if somebody knows it for sure...
Well, I know, but to me these were the cars that I thought of first. I wrote ? since I wasn't sure myself but I guess that it's some kind of Oldsmobile.

Edit

Nice. Love the Bmw e9.

Opel Manta B (1975-1988). Spotted in Székesfehérvár (H)
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423319_3269762791942_1597317193_n.jpg

@ licenceplateman: correction - the two cars identified as Impalas above are not Impalas

This is a 1958 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MerNostalgia3.jpg

And this is a 1959 Cadillac Fleetwood:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MerNostalgia7.jpg

Opel Manta B (1975-1988). Spotted in Székesfehérvár (H)
[IMG],G]

If you had a Opel Manta in the 1980's you were the coolest guy in town.

Nowadays there is no value in this car.

@ licenceplateman: correction - the two cars identified as Impalas above are not Impalas

This is a 1958 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MerNostalgia3.jpg

And this is a 1959 Cadillac Fleetwood:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MerNostalgia7.jpg
Oh, I'm sorry. I think they look quite similar.

Ford Capri III (1977-1986). Spotted in Székesfehérvár (H)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420276_3273200157874_1503535189_3059763_31262644_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426216_3273199437856_1503535189_3059762_370268281_n.jpg

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6488/ssc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ssc3.jpg/)

My fathers VW Variant. The picture is from 1968. This car does no longer exist.

^^ Bought in Germany?

MG MGB spotted a few minutes ago in Växjö :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MG001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MG002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/MG003.jpg

Fiat-Polski 126 (1973-2000). Spotted in Tihany (H)
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/432308_3275388212574_1503535189_3060144_452892563_n.jpg

A few more Oslo classics:

Ford Granada
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3037/2948741797_7fdc98c390_b.jpg

Ford Mustang
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3070/3406307073_a3b8b2e9e3_b.jpg

Datsun/Nissan 240z
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3075/2756131985_57d84bd366_b.jpg

Datsun/Nissan Cherry
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3266/2653840754_73c6115d8d_b.jpg

Volvo Amazon
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3505/3467780403_0964c09199_b.jpg

^^ I like very much the quality of your pics, which camera do you use?

^^ Nowdays I use a Panasonic DMC-gf2. Example of pictures taken with that camera: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ikoen/6436801061/sizes/o/in/set-72157628136510171/ and: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ikoen/6395558635/sizes/o/in/set-72157628136510171/


All pictures I have posted here however have been taken with a Canon PowerShot S45 which is a ten year old pocket cameara, so not exactly high tech stuff. ;)

Galro, could you provide the names and aproximate year of the cars you posted? Is the first one a Ford Taunus?

Galro, could you provide the names and aproximate year of the cars you posted? Is the first one a Ford Taunus?

First model of the Ford Granada 1972-1977

did this model occur in Brazil with another name ?

^^ Bought in Germany?

My father lived in West Germany, maybe he bought the car there. I don't know.

The license plate is probably an export-plate. Do someone know what a german export-plate looked like in the 60's ?

[QUOTE=NordikNerd;88603837]did this model occur in Brazil with another name ?
QUOTE]

No.

My father lived in West Germany, maybe he bought the car there. I don't know.

The license plate is probably an export-plate. Do someone know what a german export-plate looked like in the 60's ?

Exactly like that! :D

http://plaque.free.fr/eur/d/x1_EXPORT/D_TempOval_JE.jpg

and if anyone mentioned a mini cooper? :)

Pontiac Grand Prix IV (1985-1987). Spotted in Budapest (H)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407066_3282504030465_1503535189_3061896_1747831266_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404450_3282502550428_1503535189_3061895_166243560_n.jpg

Galro, could you provide the names and aproximate year of the cars you posted? Is the first one a Ford Taunus?

Added names. :)

Oslo again.

Split window beetle.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3162/2657038418_4e33b7bacb_b.jpg


Split window beetle hot rod.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3233/2878248035_d868abe4fd_b.jpg


Square window beetle hot rod.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3115/2660308223_f24a5b328f_b.jpg


Somewhat ratty first generation Passat on a trip. These old Passats are very rare here in Norway. I can't remember last time I saw one prior to this.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3189/2748015494_6912978519_b.jpg

^^ I should come to Oslo sooner or later, there are a lot of interesting cars there... and a beautiful city indeed!

^^ There are many classic cars in Norway in general, not just Oslo. New cars are so expensive and are taxed based on horsepowers, weight etc., so you are or more or less forced to buy a classic cars if you want something with high performance and/or fun factor as classic cars aren't taxed the same way. I've seen some say that Norway have the highest classic cars share per capita of any nation. I've seen some say the same about the UK though so I'm not sure how true it is, but nevertheless there are many classics here. ;)

Today in Växjö :)

Mercedes-Benz W116

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Mercedes004.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Mercedes003.jpg

Mercedes-Benz W123

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Mercedes005.jpg

Saab 90

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab90001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab90002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Saab90003.jpg

:cheers:

^^ What is that cable in the first pic? Heater?

^^ What is that cable in the first pic? Heater?
I guess so.

^^ What is that cable in the first pic? Heater?

Very strange placement of the connector for the heater. Usually it is placed under the bumper.

Dacia 1310 Station Wagon. (1973-2004). Spotted in Sopron (H)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395498_3283728821084_1503535189_3062107_589544142_n.jpg

First model of the Ford Granada 1972-1977

did this model occur in Brazil with another name ?



No, but we did have a similar-looking (relative to the next Grenada generation) Ford based on a completely independent Brazilian design, the Ford Corcel II family:

This is the Ford Grenada 1987:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Ford_granada_ghia_x.jpg

This is the Ford Del Rey (1981-1991):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uFiE9Buudgw/TUbCTzak-5I/AAAAAAAAAk4/kOHxcwmWzTw/s1600/delrey.jpg

http://img.carros.cozot.com.br/pics/br/2012/01/24/Ford-Del-Rey-Ghia-20120124000241.jpg

The 1981-1984 version looked a bit different:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_uFiE9Buudgw/TUZHIYcAyfI/AAAAAAAAAks/MtSLKStD7cc/s1600/ford_del_rey_black_2_1982.jpg

It was the sedan version of the Ford Corcel Mark II (1977-1987):

http://autossegredos.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/corcelas6.jpg

http://www.reginaldodecampinas.com.br/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=153041&g2_serialNumber=1

The Corcel was a very popular mid-size car that coexisted with the equally mid-size Ford Escort in Brazil throughout the 80s. The Corcel was the cheaper option.

The Corcel II family was one of the most original, exclusive and different families of purely Brazilian automobiles in the 20th century.

The Corcel I was not as original, it came as Ford Brazil absorbed Renault Brazil, changing a Renault project that was about to be released and creating the mythological Ford Corcel I:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4dL13KLjg1I/SK9X_R7Wz-I/AAAAAAAACGs/_eGkyqJkok8/s400/Ford%20Corcel%201968-1970.JPG

http://images03.olx.com.br/ui/15/07/89/1314711387_49979889_6-ford-corcel-I-Brasil.jpg

It existed with the same name as a 2-door Coupé and a 4-door Sedan, the Del Rey name only came in the next generation.

The station wagon was called Belina in both generations, but had an up-scale Del Rey derived version in the 80s, called Ford Del Rey Scala.

Ford Belina I:

http://images03.olx.com.br/ui/2/74/29/43456529_1.jpg

Ford Belina II:

http://www.carrosnaweb.com.br/imagensbd007/belina4x4.jpg


In the 90's they continued the family with the VW Santana (= European VW Passat II) because Ford and VW merged between 1991 and 1996, but this time the fastback was scrapped and only the Del Rey was continued as the Ford Versailles:

http://spf.fotolog.com/photo/63/8/39/automotivado/1291021715628_f.jpg

http://www.folhacar.com.br/rev_resourses/mizumi-veiculos/imagens_veiculos/640_480_ford-versailles-gl-2-0-i-94-95-1-1.jpg

The estate was the Ford Versailles, which was the only instance in the world where the VW Passat II Variant (in Brazil, VW Quantum) existed in the 2-door body:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/pumaedp2/royalelavada005.jpg

Later they only offered the Royale as a four-door.

Cadillac Eldorado VIII (1971-1978). Spotted in Sopron (H)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427977_3283765702006_1503535189_3062132_1715030314_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429319_3283763541952_1503535189_3062131_530884483_n.jpg

I discovered this one today in Bytom, Katowice metro area:

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0779.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0780.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0778.jpg

Amy idea what model? Looks 1930s :nuts:

^^ There are many classic cars in Norway in general, not just Oslo. New cars are so expensive and are taxed based on horsepowers, weight etc., so you are or more or less forced to buy a classic cars if you want something with high performance and/or fun factor as classic cars aren't taxed the same way. I've seen some say that Norway have the highest classic cars share per capita of any nation. I've seen some say the same about the UK though so I'm not sure how true it is, but nevertheless there are many classics here. ;)

I remember seeing a lot of American classics in Sweden. Is it similar there? I guessed that more people could afford cars like that and with higher incomes, fuel is comparatively cheaper. They are rare in the UK as our roads are too narrow and the steering wheel is on the wrong side.

Also I like how many British cars there are on here, I heard they a worth a lot over there, is this true?

I remember seeing a lot of American classics in Sweden. Is it similar there? I guessed that more people could afford cars like that and with higher incomes, fuel is comparatively cheaper. They are rare in the UK as our roads are too narrow and the steering wheel is on the wrong side.

Yes, they are very common here. I think the same goes for Finland. Ford Mustang for example is probably the most common classic car in Norway along with the Vw Beetle. American cars are less common inside Oslos inner city though as they make very little sense there, but they are the king in the suburbs and in rural Norway.


Also I like how many British cars there are on here, I heard they a worth a lot over there, is this true?
I don't think British cars are valued higher than similar models from other countries, but there are some British cars that are consider to be very desirable. Stuff like old Jaguars, Austin Healey, Aston Martin, Bentley et.c , and are therefore priced accordingly. But a old Morris Marina on the other hand isn't particularly expensive or desirable

^^ And here a couple of American Classic I haven't posted yet:

Oldsmobile Cutlass
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3274/2999094067_08d30faf46_b.jpg


1965 Chevrolet Impala
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3052/2864769079_fa64221c15_b.jpg


Chevrolet Corvette c2.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3283/2747184895_98e636ffff_b.jpg


Chevrolet Corvette c3.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3137/3096142406_b78ffe7d49_b.jpg


Ford Mustang which I believe to be abandoned.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3263/2782357912_2f1a1ae0bb_b.jpg


Chevrolet Caprice behind the Fiat 500.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3069/2654219278_fb8682e829_b.jpg

^^ Do you have a better pic of the Caprice?

^^ No, I don't ... Sadly. Because I didn't realize that the cars was there when I took the picture. I only noticed it later when I looked at it at home. :)

Ferrari 365 Daytona (1968-1974). Spotted in Brescia (I). Produced in 1.486 units
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424658_3299129046080_1503535189_3066641_1054882518_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407992_3299139406339_1503535189_3066642_1788686735_n.jpg

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/4717/34349706.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/34349706.jpg/)

First verision of the Volvo 140. 1967-1971. I think this is a 1970 model

Also notice the yellow "hazard" lights under the bumper. These were a substitute for the dipped headlights at day when this law came in 1977.

Chevrolet Caprice today in Växjö :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Chevrolet006.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Chevrolet005.jpg

Alfa Romeo Giulia GT 1300 Junior (1966-1974). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396019_2955306010719_1503535189_2947350_1905230651_n.jpg

Ferrari 365 Daytona (1968-1974). Spotted in Brescia (I). Produced in 1.486 units
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424658_3299129046080_1503535189_3066641_1054882518_n.jpg


This is a lovely car! :hug:

^^ I've the pic the spider version too, spotted the same day :cheers:

^^ But the coupe is a much prettier car imho.

Spotted today in Moheda :)

Cadillac Eldorado

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Cadillac001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Cadillac002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Cadillac003.jpg

Spotted today in Växjö :)

Mercedes-Benz W123

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Mercedes006.jpg

A pair of W123s in my neighbourhood – 230E and 240D in the background:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00808.jpg

Here’s one with classic car plates:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01373x.jpg

A coupe, owned by my coleague:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00900.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00902.jpg

And another one spotted in my neigbourhood:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00806.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00807.jpg

An another coupe, I spoke to the owner and He said the car was to be exported to Norway, where he lived:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00834x.jpg

Here’s sth bigger, W116 S-class:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00796.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00797.jpg

All cars spotted in Katowice.

Volvo Amazon in Växjö today :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo481.jpg

A question for Mercedes buffs: what is the relationship between the letter+three number codes (such as W116) and the letter-series designation more commonly used (C-series, S-series, etc.).

Code W116 is the project code (chassis code) while C-series is the name used to be sell. BMW has the same codes (for example E21 is the 3-series 1975-1983)

^^ Yes but what is the logic behind the letter-three number codes such as W116, and specifically what I meant to ask as well was the three number + letter code used for public sales and put on the trunk lid, such as 190E for the W201 for instance.

Because until Wikipedia made these codes available to me, I always referred to Mercedes by their series letter + three-digit number. I had never heard of the "W" codes.

So for instance why didn't Mercedes put W126 on the 560 SEL sedan of the 80's, instead of putting this other, confusing designation 560 SEL???

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/1979-1991_Mercedes-Benz_W126_500_SEC_and_560_SEL.jpg/800px-1979-1991_Mercedes-Benz_W126_500_SEC_and_560_SEL.jpg

That is why I have a lot of trouble understanding the official W numbers, because I had always known the Mercedes from their trunk lid codes.. so the E 200 is the W124... Jesus.

Besides, the W codes make no sense, the W123 goes logically to W124 but then W210 (at least the 100s go to the 200s)...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6773717366_fa118fbe3d_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77129347@N05/6773717366/)
10 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77129347@N05/6773717366/)

1980 Volvo 245. This picture is taken in 1980 so the car was brand new.

The photo is from an old dusty slide belonging to a (deceased) relative of mine.

Can someone see what the hotel sign is saying ?


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6919860019_70cb05d4cf_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77129347@N05/6919860019/)
MB 230 1978 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77129347@N05/6919860019/)

My 1978 MB 230. I was a very proud owner of this car. Bought it in 1993 for 1100 euro.
The picture is taken south of Stockholm along the E4. This diner is gone now and replaced by McDonalds. :(

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6919859889_2cb32f5ed6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77129347@N05/6919859889/)
MB 230 1978 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77129347@N05/6919859889/)

This MB had some issues with the engine, it sounded like a diesel. I sold it about 2 years later and
I checked the auto register found out that the license nr BZW 980 was canceled in 1998.
This car is scrap today.

So for instance why didn't Mercedes put W126 on the 560 SEL sedan of the 80's, instead of putting this other, confusing designation 560 SEL???


Because they mean different thing. W126 = the chassis. Like with Bmw and their e-codes.

560 SEL = that particularly trim. 560SEL means 5,6 liter engine, S-class, Excutive trim and Long wheelbase version.
You could also a get W126-chassis as a 420 SEC (4.2 liter engine, Coupe) or 500 SEL (5.0 liter engine, long wheelbase) or many other similarly named versions.

The numbers don't have any relationships with actual engine size on the newer models though and they mainly keep the numbers as a nod to the models of yore.

Because they mean different thing. W126 = the chassis. Like with Bmw and their e-codes.

560 SEL = that particularly trim. 560SEL means 5,6 liter engine, S-class, Excutive trim and Long wheelbase version.
You could also a get W126-chassis as a 420 SEC (4.2 liter engine, Coupe) or

Actually You're a bit wrong with this SEL. S for Sonderclasse (special class - both saloons and coupes), E for einspritzung (fuel injection in german), L for lang radstand (long wheel base). Now things with MB model designations are not that simple, but in the past it was rather clear. Three digits for engine capacity, E for injected petrol engines, D for diesel, S for S-class models, C for coupes*, T for estates, SL/SLC for sporty light (sport leicht) roadsters/convertibles/coupes. For example the white W116 I've posted is 2,8 carburattor engine S-class (280S), the black one is 2,8 litre injected S-class (280SE), the brown W123 is 2,3 litre injection (230E), the green is 2,4 litre diesel (240D) and the dark green estate had 240TD designation in the back (2,4 litre diesel estate). With W201 things got slightly more complicated, as it was always 190 with additinal letter (D or E - diesel or injected petrol) and with certaind engines displacement designation (e.g. 190D 2,5). About that Wxxx stuff I think that only logical explanation for W124 beeing replaced by W210 (instead of W125) etc. is that only some projects come to production.

* C was for coupes from certain moment, earlier the had designations simmilar to saloons like this 2,8 litre injected coupe:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DTS/Zdjcie004.jpg
^^The shot taken in Katowice by another forumer^^

Actually You're a bit wrong with this SEL. S for Sonderclasse (special class - both saloons and coupes)

But:

S-class is short for Sonderklasse in the first place, hence the S is short for S-class which again is short for Sonderklasse. I'm not wrong there, you just go further into the details.:)

Volvo 244 in Ingelstad (a village near Växjö) today :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo482.jpg

Fiat 5oo (taken by me in Rome)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/385117_2520485806414_1081355703_2630888_1168718175_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/424560_2816610129337_1081355703_2777905_1216297595_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381319_2517245525409_1081355703_2629835_1132944953_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/384323_2520465445905_1081355703_2630873_1826918022_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388023_2521426789938_1081355703_2631423_620617459_n.jpg

Mercedes-Benz R107 (picture taken in Rome, San Saba district)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/383698_2520498526732_1081355703_2630895_1622581036_n.jpg

Fiat Uno & VW T1 (picture taken in Rome, Monti Tiburtini district)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/390221_2521493231599_1081355703_2631466_724599818_n.jpg

Fiat 126 (picture taken in Rome, Valle Aurelia area)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400384_2602521617258_1081355703_2665729_1535343304_n.jpg

Another Fiat 5oo, taken in Pescara (Abruzzo region, Italy)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/402464_2766610119368_1081355703_2750572_1590346196_n.jpg

^^Nice!

Renault 11 TLE (1987-1989). Spotted in Vimercate (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418516_3342383367411_315224119_n.jpg

The new Fiat 500 is manufactured in my metro area, so I see many of them on lorry tucks. It's also quite frequent car on streets here. But the old, classic one is really rare. I see only several of those a year and I regret it, since it's a very nice vehicle :cheers: Today I've spotted this one in Bielsko-Biała, about 70 kilometers south from where I live:

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0785.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0787.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0788.jpg

Sometimes I also meet this example used in one of local driving schools:

wee0GuxDVeM

Renault 11 TLE (1987-1989). Spotted in Vimercate (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418516_3342383367411_315224119_n.jpg

I refuse to accept this as a classic car!!!!!!!

^^ In Italy a car be considerated "classic" (and it can get the certification) when it has at least 20 years.

Today in Karlskrona :)

Polski Fiat

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/PolskiFiat003.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/PolskiFiat002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/PolskiFiat001.jpg

Classic and extremely rare in Sweden. So rare that I will also post it in Rare cars on your streets thread.

I also saw this Lada Samara in Tingsryd.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Lada002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Lada001.jpg

This is another car I saw in Karlskrona today

A Volvo Amazon :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo483.jpg

I really like the grand square in Karlskrona, such overdimensioned for a city of 35.000 inhabitants.

About the Polski Fiat. The owner probably like long distance travel the hard way.
Or.. he lives in Gdynia and only had to enter/exit the ferry.

I can imagine what will happend to the driver if he collides with another car of normal size.


I refuse to accept this as a classic car!!!!!!!

This 80's Renault would suit better in the "rare cars" thread. Not one single copy of this car was sold in Sweden.
So it's a non existing model here, and very rare. I don't think anyone cared to privately import any of these cars either.

I really like the grand square in Karlskrona, such overdimensioned for a city of 35.000 inhabitants.

About the Polski Fiat. The owner probably like long distance travel the hard way.
Or.. he lives in Gdynia and only had to enter/exit the ferry.

I can imagine what will happend to the driver if he collides with another car of normal size.
I agree about the square in Karlskrona. A great city and I was born there, but I have never lived there.

The Polski Fiat is registered in Braniewo which is not so far from Gdynia so it can be as you say.

I have only seen two other Polski Fiats in Sweden in my life and that was at the Nostalgia Festival in Ronneby in July 2011.

About the Polski Fiat (..)
I can imagine what will happend to the driver if he collides with another car of normal size.

Among many jokes about this car in Poland there were some about it's safety. E.g.:

What do Merecedes and Fiat 126p do have in common? In both the crumple zone ends at the engine.

The Karlskrona example is around 1993. Worth in Poland 100-200 euros depending on condition.

These are not common cars here anymore, exepct maybe for mountainous areas. That's because that with proper tyres and/or snowchains they're pretty good in winter conditions, often serve as snow plough. But generally even in pizza delivery usually replaced by Cinquecento, Seicento, Matiz etc. These days not even poor teenagers buy those as a first car, so most have been scrapped. But older examples are allready getting cult and classic status. Here are some 70's/early 80's examples I'v spotted in recent years.


http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC02003.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC02000.jpg

^^ Those spotted during amateur race at test and race track by Fiat Plant in Tychy, Katowice metro area. 10 years ago 126p was the most common vehicle on such events, while Civic Type-R, Impreza WRX or Lancer Evo were eyecatching rarity. Now it's the oposite way :)

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/DSC01262x.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/DSC01222x.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/DSC01146.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/DSC01145.jpg

^^ With black square plate, amazing!

^^Nice!

Thanks ;)

Today in Växjö :)

Oldsmobile Cutlass

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Oldsmobile002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Oldsmobile001.jpg

Citroen 2 CV6 Charleston (1981-1990)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431078_3360699185295_1503535189_3090427_1646838706_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422589_3360703025391_1503535189_3090430_188829373_n.jpg

^^ With black square plate, amazing!

I've spoke to the driver, about 70 y.o. man. He was the original owner, the car had only about 40-50 kkms on the clock was pristine.

Another bunch of polish commie-times cars. Early FSO Polonez. 30 years ago completely out of reach for average family, equivalent of a nice house in some of major cities.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00820.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00819.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01247.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0379.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0374.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0373.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/zdjcie0378.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0392.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/zdjcie0391.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/zdjcie0390.jpg

Alfa Romeo 90 2.0 V6 Iniezione (1985-1987). Spotted in Milan (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402384_3367213028137_1503535189_3093674_1304967974_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396561_3367210868083_756837716_n.jpg

Early FSO Polonez. 30 years ago completely out of reach for average family, equivalent of a nice house in some of major cities.



In the GDR you had to wait about 10 years before you were allowed to buy the Trabant, not to mention the money needed also equivalent of a small house.

I assume it was the same thing with the Polonez.


I wonder if someone was stupid enough to sell his house to buy a car in the old times. Cars which lost value quickly after the fall of the wall.

Autobianchi A112 Abarth (1984-1985). Spotted in Milan (I)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/431410_3368513380645_1503535189_3094507_203218432_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423472_3368516380720_1503535189_3094509_899076079_n.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7070/6791724412_d26914836f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6791724412/)
Bild2 736 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6791724412/)

My '75 Saab 96 interior view. A rare car which is even more rare outside Scandinavia.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6937841747_3ab940f119_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6937841747/)
Bild2 772 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6937841747/)

Met a guy with a Volvo 544 outside the petrol station. Two old swedish classics.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/6937841829_e94d2ae99f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6937841829/)
Bild2 778 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6937841829/)

The annual check up. Received remarks on the rear brakes.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7045/6937842081_836bd8fed5_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6937842081/)
Bild2 773 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75512792@N06/6937842081/)

On the countryside, where it's most fun to drive such a car !

Austin-Healey 3000 (1959-1967). Spotted in Vimercate (I)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426922_3373424383417_1503535189_3097038_1342654417_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416792_3373422623373_1503535189_3097037_728884343_n.jpg

Volvo 142 in Växjö today (the 1973 facelifted version) :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo484.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo485.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo486.jpg

Lancia Fulvia 3 (1973-1976). Spotted in Vimercate (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429997_3380785367437_1503535189_3100609_1753676168_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424808_3380788487515_1503535189_3100610_695233025_n.jpg

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/2406/imag0319a.jpg
Volvo 343

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1852/imag0317p.jpg
Opel Kadett ?

^^ Opel Rekord A.

thanks, man! :)

Volkswagen Beetle (1938-2003). Spotted in Milan (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421863_3394414068146_1503535189_3105604_71716154_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/64937_3394417068221_1503535189_3105605_258359410_n.jpg

Quite simmilar. Inherent trait of communist economy was almost permament shortage of consumer goods, starting from toilet paper (literally!) ending with cars. Even having enough money man had to wait several years before was able to buy new Polski Fiat or Polonez. Some people (for their special occupation, party-membership, or simply thanks to corruption) got special coupons allowing them to buy a car without waiting so long. In the result brand new Fiat or Polonez was worth twice that much on open market. Four-five years old vehicles had value equal to official new car price. Crazy times. Here’s another old Polonez, probably year 83-85. Detrimmed “C” model, originally didn’t have body side moldings. IIRC square headlights were imported from DDR, because polish industry – then already in deep crisis - wasn’t able to supply enough quantity of usual round quad headligths.:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0789.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0790.jpg

In the GDR you had to wait about 10 years before you were allowed to buy the Trabant, not to mention the money needed also equivalent of a small house. I assume it was the same thing with the Polonez.


Spotted during Summer Cars Party in Katowice last year:

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/zdjcie0617.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/zdjcie0616.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/zdjcie0620.jpg

This one is modified, fitted with chrome-covered 2,0 DOHC Fiat Argenta engine, leather and wood interior etc. The owner also drives vintage Porsche:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00787.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSC00786.jpg

Two early examples, first from Katowice, the other spotted along Katowice-Warsaw road.

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01705.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01704.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0794.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Zdjcie0793.jpg

And the estate, in commie times mostly seen as ambulance, very rare these days:

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/DSC01132.jpg

Note the "Katowice-Monaco" sticker. The car took part in event called "Złombol" (can be translated as "crap race"). Few years ago copule of students from Katowice got and realized the idea of going to famous Casino de Monte Carlo with crappy commie times cars. IIRC they drove there with Trabant and Polski Fiat 126p. Quickly the event got a lot bigger, and after visiting Monaco once again it went to Polar Circle, Istanbul and last year about 140 teams from Poland, Czechia, Germany and perhaps some other countries drove to Loch Ness, Scotland. Teams offer advertising space on their vehicles to collect money for orphans an other children in need. This year the target is Olympia, Greece. I will post some photos from the "Złombol 2011" start in Katowice later.

Spotted a few minutes ago in Växjö :)

I can't recognize this car right now. What car is it?

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Oknd001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Oknd002.jpg

Sorry for bad pictures.

^^ Dodge Dart, looks like 1971.

I will post some photos from the "Złombol 2011" start in Katowice later.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0451.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0456.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0458.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0459.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0454.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0464.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0469.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0474.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0470.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0475.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0471.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0476.jpg


http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0477.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0473.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0479.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0480.jpg


http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0462.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0460.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Cars/zdjcie0478.jpg

^^ This one was lowered, fitted with some american V8 and nicely burning tyres :cheers:

^^ Dodge Dart, looks like 1971.
Thank you :okay:

Renault Estafette (1959-1980). Spotted in Monza (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426487_3410397347718_1503535189_3114043_1601037436_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425362_3410420508297_1503535189_3114044_1271464513_n.jpg

I saw a 60s VW Beetle today at the same place as the Dodge but I couldn't take a picture. Just like the Dodge it drove in to a garage at a private school. It seems like the private school has a garage with a lot of classic cars.

Renault Estafette (1959-1980). Spotted in Monza (I)

Nice condition, especially for commercial vehicle :cheers: I'm pretty sure I've never seen one in Poland, and I don't recall seeing any while in France. I like it a lot :)

Some beetles spotted in Katowice. In front of my block...

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01466x.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01465.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01467.jpg

... and downtown:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01471.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01472.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01263x.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/DSC01264x.jpg

Square black plate again ;)

Nice condition, especially for commercial vehicle :cheers: I'm pretty sure I've never seen one in Poland, and I don't recall seeing any while in France. I like it a lot :)



Me neither I've seen it in France and it wasn't sold in Italy, so the owner imported in from France recently (you can see on the windshield the sticker of the french insurance)

Hardly gets any more classic than this (spotted in Maranello):

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What is this? Does anybody know? It's probably a rebuilt vehicle but still what can it be? I caught it this morning in Braås.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Oknd.jpg

could it be "The Matador" / The Harburger transporter / Hanomag/MB ?

I see this car sometimes at my college. An MG (Midget?)

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1208/moto2554.jpg

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4770/moto2555.jpg

I spotted this old VW Golf today. From the 70s or early 80s?

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen002.jpg

I see this car sometimes at my college. An MG (Midget?)


No, it's a MGB with ugly post 1974 rubber bumpers.

Citroen BX 19 TRD (1983-1985). Spotted in Bernareggio (I)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431007_3450487629950_1503535189_3128738_1003833727_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431261_3450490590024_1503535189_3128739_1533912287_n.jpg

I spotted this old VW Golf today. From the 70s or early 80s?

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen002.jpg

Mother of God! I coudn't imagine that someone in Sweden still drives old VW Golf I! :lol:

Mother of God! I coudn't imagine that someone in Sweden still drives old VW Golf I! :lol:
:lol:
They're very rare nowadays. This car's driver is a probably 70 year old man. I've seen this car at the roads and always with this old man in it, so probably a car he has owned for a long, long time.

VW Beetle at Norremark industrial area in Växjö today :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen.jpg

Earlier today I saw a Citroën 2CV, but I was driving and didn't have time to get the camera :(

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u105/Poetryandemotion/IMAG0526-1.jpg

Fiat 127 Rustica (1979-1981). Spotted in Cinisello Balsamo (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419913_3464324495863_1503535189_3134827_1678198105_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426148_3464328135954_1503535189_3134829_1369572962_n.jpg

Fiat 850 (1964-1971). Spotted in Sesto San Giovanni (I)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/421953_3465595927648_1503535189_3135521_1387265902_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419698_3465598687717_1503535189_3135524_1660370134_n.jpg

Fiat 127 Rustica (1979-1981). Spotted in Cinisello Balsamo (I)
1369572962_n.jpg

The Safari Edition ? Rustica sounds like it's made for rough driving

The Safari Edition ? Rustica sounds like it's made for rough driving

Right, it has reinforced suspensions, protected oil pan, reinforced bumpers and the only possible optional was the roof pack. In reality, the 127 Rustica is the italian version of the brazilian Fiat 147. The body shell was assembled in the Lamborghini factory

Volkswagen Type 2 T2 Pick Up (1967-1979). Spotted in Cinisello Balsamo (I)
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426022_3468333676090_1503535189_3136068_502883386_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/427626_3468336436159_1503535189_3136072_1370307967_n.jpg

I don't know if everybody would consider this a ''real'' classic, but I do :) A 1979-1984 Opel Kadett in Växjö today.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel002.jpg

Fiat 127 Rustica (1979-1981). Spotted in Cinisello Balsamo (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426148_3464328135954_1503535189_3134829_1369572962_n.jpg

I miss 127, but in normal version - very interesting and nice car, I think. They planned to start its production in Poland in 70's, but it was too expensive and finally socialistic authorities chose cheaper Fiat 126 (I have such one from 1997, in "ELX" version).

To find a 127 on the streets nowadays is pretty rare here in the Northern Italy...besides this one in pic, I don't see one since long unfortunately. Older cars are more common to spot going towards south

It may be explicable - warmer climat and poorer people.

Right, it has reinforced suspensions, protected oil pan, reinforced bumpers and the only possible optional was the roof pack. In reality, the 127 Rustica is the italian version of the brazilian Fiat 147. The body shell was assembled in the Lamborghini factory

It wasn't imported form Brazil? I know that the 147 was exported to Europe.

It wasn't imported form Brazil? I know that the 147 was exported to Europe.

Probabily the body shall was made in Brazil, and then assembled here in Italy

Today in Växjö :)

Volvo 145 (sorry for crappy picture)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo487.jpg

Seen at a small, rural road

VW Beetle, in very bad condition with a lot of rust.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen003.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen004.jpg

Once again, sorry for bad pictures

licenseplateman, have you ever seen cars like Fiat 125, Fiat 126 or Polonez in Sweden?

licenseplateman, have you ever seen cars like Fiat 125, Fiat 126 or Polonez in Sweden?
Fiat 125 and 126 I have only seen at exhibitions as far as I can remember. But I have seen Fiat 126 outside exhibitions if you count Polski Fiats. I posted it earlier in this thread. I spotted it in Karlskrona. It felt so funny to stand beside that car. I probably wouldn't fit in it :lol:

I have never seen a Polonez or any other FSO in Sweden.

The most common cars from former communist countries are old Ladas, but they are very rare as well. I see Ladas a few times per year and it's mostly Samara and a few Riva and Niva. I have posted a few in ''Rare cars on your streets'' thread and one Samara in this thread.

Fiat 238 (1969-1983). Spotted in Cinisello Balsamo (I)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423003_3475147566433_1503535189_3138840_267532260_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428680_3475151046520_1503535189_3138842_760921225_n.jpg

^^ Nice and charming bus. Don't think I have seen one before. :)

^^
I have never heard of it.
Nice :okay:

But I have seen Fiat 126 outside exhibitions if you count Polski Fiats.

Yes, I count :) Old 126s manufactured in/for Italy, so with stickers "Fiat", not "Polski Fiat", are very rare also in Poland, but you can still see a lot of domestic models. There are also newer 126s in "elegant" version ("EL" or "ELX"), manufactured in Bielsko-Biała, Poland since 1994, with "Fiat" stickers. :)

I've asked, because the only one time I've been in Sweden (in Karlskrona at summer 2007) I've seen FSO Polonez with black plates leaving the "Stena Baltica" ferry. :)

I've asked, because the only one time I've been in Sweden (in Karlskrona at summer 2007) I've seen FSO Polonez with black plates leaving the "Stena Baltica" ferry. :)
Cool! :) Rare car and rare plates. I actually saw two black Polish license plates last year but on far less interesting vehicles.

This evening I was in a industrial area in Växjö and I noticed this...

A Ford Model T at the Ford dealership. I have never seen a old Ford in there before. Sorry for the bad picture. The fence was in the way.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Ford001.jpg

Citroen 2CV 6 Special (1980-1990). Spotted in Sesto San Giovanni (I)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426946_3476355916641_1503535189_3139371_1995137057_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422869_3476352796563_1503535189_3139366_582563092_n.jpg

I envy you possible of leaving old plates on vehicles...

I envy you possible of leaving old plates on vehicles...

No sure however that's the Citroen has original plates, could be a re-registration

This one could be re-registrated, but another ones usually have original plates.

Today I saw two classic cars in Växjö :)

Mercedes-Benz W123 Coupé

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Mercedes008.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Mercedes007.jpg

VW Passat

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen006.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen005.jpg

A few minutes ago in Växjö I saw this Volvo Amazon :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo488.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo489.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo490.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo491.jpg

That's ratty.

That's ratty.
Yes, but still a classic

^^ Yes, I agree. It didn't mean that it didn't belong here.

^^ Yes, I agree. It didn't mean that it didn't belong here.
I understand :)

And what's this on the left in first photo with Volvo Amazon? :P

And what's this on the left in first photo with Volvo Amazon? :P
I actually have no idea, but these are commonly used by Länstrafiken Kronoberg which is the public transport association in Kronoberg (where Växjö is located).

Iso Rivolta GT 300 (1962-1970). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422395_3483688179943_1503535189_3141499_1711222816_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/421041_3483690019989_1503535189_3141500_167112981_n.jpg

And what's this on the left in first photo with Volvo Amazon? :P

Looks like a rebuilt VW Transporter T5 2003-2009

these buses are designed for public transport of disabled and senior citizens.

The Volvo Amazon: The owner of the vehicle is probably an odd fellow not living in Växjö, but in the woods outside of town.

The Iso Rivolta: I actually heard about this brand before, I have read a lot of books about cars.
I wonder how many of these were exported.

Would like to see more of extinct brands like the Borgward Isabella.

The Volvo Amazon: The owner of the vehicle is probably an odd fellow not living in Växjö, but in the woods outside of town. :yes: too funny!

Peugeot 504 Cabriolet (1969-1983). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418355_3486564931860_1680268399_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420615_3486562691804_1503535189_3142444_1455296053_n.jpg

Some cars spotted today in Växjö

Chevrolet Malibu

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet007.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet008.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet009.jpg

Guess what ''Riktiga bilar drar över 2 liter milen'' means :D

Pontiac Trans-Am

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Pontiac.jpg

Cadillac Eldorado (got to like the personalized license plate :lol:)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Cadillac008.jpg

Opel Kadett in horrible condition :ohno:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel004.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Opel003.jpg

Peugeot 504 Cabriolet (1969-1983). Spotted in Brescia (I)

I love this car :okay:

Iso Rivolta GT 300 (1962-1970). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422395_3483688179943_1503535189_3141499_1711222816_n.jpg

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I prefer the Grifo, but still a very nice and cool car! How common are these old Italian beasts in Italy? :)

I prefer the Grifo, but still a very nice and cool car! How common are these old Italian beasts in Italy? :)

Very very rare. You are lucky you can spot in meetings...if you are very lucky, also you can spot in street too.

Triumph Spitfire 4 (1970-1980). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425672_3487174187091_1503535189_3142844_1004728185_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431126_3487172947060_1503535189_3142843_1907548680_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423234_3487194387596_1503535189_3142857_1365357121_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429862_3487198507699_1503535189_3142860_1293854326_n.jpg

Some cars spotted today in Växjö

Chevrolet Caprice

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet007.jpg


I think this is a 1979 Chevrolet Malibu, the Caprice is a considerably larger-sized car.

I think this is a 1979 Chevrolet Malibu, the Caprice is a considerably larger-sized car.
Sorry for my mistake :ohno:

I will change it.

Today in Alvesta

Fiat 500 (this car can be seen a lot outside a pizzeria during the summer. This was the first time I see it this year)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Fiat001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Fiat002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Fiat003.jpg

Chevrolet Caprice (I saw it in a very bad neighborhood that I call ''The ghetto of Alvesta'' :D)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet011.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet010.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet012.jpg

I also saw another American car from 60s/early 70s in Växjö. I couldn't recognise it. I took a picture, but it doesn't look good.

Today in Alvesta

Fiat 500 (this car can be seen a lot outside a pizzeria during the summer. This was the first time I see it this year)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Fiat001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Fiat002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Fiat003.jpg

Hide the plate and you'll never guess that those pics are shot in Sweden:).

Peugeot 504 Cabriolet (1969-1983). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418355_3486564931860_1680268399_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420615_3486562691804_1503535189_3142444_1455296053_n.jpg
Is mandatory in the Netherlands re-register old cars with new plates, like they recently did in Serbia? Or that car was just imported?

Is mandatory in the Netherlands re-register old cars with new plates, like they recently did in Serbia? Or that car was just imported?

No it's not. Probabily this car is imported

Here one with original plates, spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403691_2955332611384_1503535189_2947368_953510564_n.jpg

Today in Växjö

VW Beetle

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen007.jpg

Fiat 750 (1955-1969). Spotted in Arcore (I)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428860_3498906200384_1503535189_3149338_1752661729_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/485311_3498904720347_1503535189_3149337_1304662843_n.jpg

Renault Super5 GTL (1984-1985). Spotted in Arcore (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405117_3499681579768_1503535189_3149684_385644982_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484135_3499677939677_1503535189_3149681_2072352152_n.jpg

Renault Super5 GTL (1984-1985). Spotted in Arcore (I)



Nice! My mom used to drive a Renault 5, between 1985 and 2000. Few months ago I spotted one and I felt a feeling of nostalgy.

Today in Växjö :)

Volvo 142

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo495.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo494.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo493.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo492.jpg

^^ You didn't take any pictures of the classic Saab 99 next to the Volvo?

^^ You didn't take any pictures of the classic Saab 99 next to the Volvo?
It was not a Saab 99, but a Saab 900. I usually don't picture those since they are quite common to see around here.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2637/img20120319134007.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/img20120319134007.jpg/)

I think this is a Pontiac Firebird, parked outside my work. The car is in a bad state, probably a 1975 model.

Citroen DS Pallas (1955-1975). Spotted in Sesto San Giovanni (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534893_3512848948944_81416402_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/535070_3512862109273_1503535189_3154286_1753088244_n.jpg

Today in Tingsryd :)

A early Volvo 244. These are rare nowadays.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo496.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo497.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo498.jpg

I also saw a Mercedes-Benz W126, but there was a person sitting in the car so I didn't want to picture it.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2637/img20120319134007.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/img20120319134007.jpg/)

I think this is a Pontiac Firebird, parked outside my work. The car is in a bad state, probably a 1975 model.

It's a second-generation Chevrolet Camaro, probably the model year you mentioned, I'm sure because my uncle owned one a long time ago. :) Pontiac models in general are distinguished by the double grill, besides that the Camaro emblem can be seen.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4374/other20camaro20emblem.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/205/other20camaro20emblem.gif/)

It's a second-generation Chevrolet Camaro, probably the model year you mentioned, ,

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1718/img20120322095452.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/img20120322095452.jpg/)

So it's a Camaro. The 1967-68 models were among the most powerfull muscle cars, classics that are hard to come by even in America.

This is the 1974-77 model.

Here, such a car costs a lot, even a wreck. Add to that petrol costs almost 9$/ gallon, high tax for heavy vehicles and parts that are rare and expensive.

With those things in mind you really have to be an entusiast to buy a car like this one.

I was in Tingsryd around a hour ago and saw two classic Volvos :)

Volvo 164 - Extremely rare to find nowadays and one of my favourites. This is the first Volvo 164 I see on a street in years and it's in great condition :banana:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo499.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo500.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo501.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo505.jpg

Volvo 142

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo504.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo503.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo502.jpg

Hope you like it :cheers:

...Chevrolet Caprice...
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet011.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet010.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet012.jpg


1968 Chevrolet Caprice. Standard engine: 307CU V8 Turbo-Hydromatic 400 (Automatic) Transmission. Typical lower middle class American sedan.

DKW F93 3=6 Monza (1957). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384827_2955295650460_1503535189_2947340_1910015704_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381722_2955297250500_1503535189_2947341_2120929589_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/394775_2955299610559_1503535189_2947343_1826583234_n.jpg

^^ That's a very rare car and you found two of them! Where they part of some kind of event?

^^ That's a very rare car and you found two of them!

If you like it, here the other one :). The only difference with the grey one is the Audi badge in the front and the turn signal lights
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399591_2955293050395_1503535189_2947339_1410781800_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377946_2955290690336_1503535189_2947337_487513205_n.jpg

Where they part of some kind of event? There's every year in Brescia. They leave from Brescia, they go to Rome and they are back in Brescia 3 days later. To join in the event you have to pay 7.260 €, so it's very exclusive and only 375 cars can race (I say "only" cause join requests are around 1500). Still 2 months and it will start the 2012 editions, I'm looking forward :banana:

COOPER Jaguar T33 (1954). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381451_2955280210074_1503535189_2947329_403070827_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391840_2955282570133_1503535189_2947331_192010966_n.jpg

Today in Växjö

Volvo Amazon

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo506.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo507.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo508.jpg

Today in Värnamo

I'm not sure what it is. Some Ford or Chevrolet maybe? There was nothing on the car telling what it is.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet013.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet014.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet015.jpg

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Today in Värnamo

I'm not sure what it is. Some Ford or Chevrolet maybe? There was nothing on the car telling what it is.



'55 Chevy

BUICK Master Six (1929). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404640_2955253289401_1503535189_2947304_1971869289_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402316_2955257769513_1503535189_2947308_1138953847_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396331_2955259609559_1503535189_2947310_1999937694_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381576_2955256089471_1503535189_2947306_923119523_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/380854_2955261889616_1503535189_2947313_487913482_n.jpg

This evening I photographed this Volvo 145. I talked to the owner and he said it was made in 1974. It might be the same car that I posted last week but I'm not sure. It's better photos now anyway :)

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo509.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volvo510.jpg

DKW F91 3=6 (1954). Spotted in Brescia (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404809_2955303290651_1503535189_2947347_198705406_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/397906_2955302210624_1503535189_2947346_2039051100_n.jpg

I recently read an ad in the newspaper that The last Cadillac of Elvis Presley is comming to Sweden. :)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8831/giftdrnick.jpg
It was here in 1989 belonging to a private person, after renovation he sold it but now it's comming back. :) I hope it stays here.
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3630/40368500.jpg
The Golden Key
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3281463130_f5034b574b.jpg

Today I saw some very classic cars. Here they are except for a Austin-Healey and a Volvo P1800 that I couldn't picture.

Seen in Ljungby

Messerschmitt

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Messerschmidt003.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Messerschmidt002.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Messerschmidt001.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Messerschmidt004.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Messerschmidt005.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Messerschmidt006.jpg

Volkswagen Karmann Ghia

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen008.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen009.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen010.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen011.jpg

Plymouth Belvedere?

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Cadillac009.jpg

Seen in Värnamo

Jaguar XJ

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Jaguar003.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Jaguar004.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Jaguar005.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Jaguar006.jpg

Fiat 500 C Topolino Trasformabile (1936-1955). Spotted in Bergamo (I)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564537_3532861009233_1503535189_3161238_292627882_n.jpg

Those Messerschmidt 3 wheel motorcycles are extremely noisy. I have seen one of these here in Linköping.

These two Volvos are still in daily use, seen in (and near) Bern.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l638/Nordic20T/Auto%20Europa/Schweiz5.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l638/Nordic20T/Auto%20Europa/Schweiz6.jpg

Autobianchi A112 Junior (1979-1985). Spotted in Bergamo
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306044_3533482344766_1503535189_3161515_1126679928_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555803_3533478104660_1503535189_3161514_468988701_n.jpg

Citroen LNA (1979-1986). Spotted in Vimercate (I)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/547462_3543846083853_1503535189_3167260_232629637_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546327_3543848843922_1503535189_3167261_777270819_n.jpg

Autobianchi A112 Junior (1979-1985). Spotted in Bergamo


All those italian cars you show are scrapped a long time ago here in Sweden.

Reason: Poor or no protection against rust. Due to icy roads, salt is spread out during winter time here. The salt cause corrosion.

Especially the Fiat Ritmo did not last long. Fiat cars are made for sunny warm countries without snow, like Italy, Greece Turkey, South America. Maybe they have improved a bit lately though.

Seat is a similar brand, but since they started co operation with VW the quality became better, and they took a share of the scandinavian market.

Maybe it's time for Fiat to join forces with another brand ?

Lancia is now trying to come back here as a rebadged Chrysler. They didn't have any succes since they teamed up with SAAB in 1979 which resulted in the SAAB-Lancia 600. (Lancia-Delta)

In Poland old Fiats (and Polski Fiats) are still very common and Polish climat is more similar to Swedish, than Italian. I think that very much depends from personal care for these cars - in Poland people buy cars for many years, so they want to maintain them in pretty good condition.

About Ritmo - indeed - my grandpa had one and sold it in 2001, because it was very rusty (had even gap in the roof). Then he bought poor Skoda Felicia from 1997; he has it for today and it's far from be as bad as Ritmo.

All those italian cars you show are scrapped a long time ago here in Sweden.

Reason: Poor or no protection against rust. Due to icy roads, salt is spread out during winter time here. The salt cause corrosion.

Especially the Fiat Ritmo did not last long. Fiat cars are made for sunny warm countries without snow, like Italy, Greece Turkey, South America. Maybe they have improved a bit lately though.

Seat is a similar brand, but since they started co operation with VW the quality became better, and they took a share of the scandinavian market.

Maybe it's time for Fiat to join forces with another brand ?

Lancia is now trying to come back here as a rebadged Chrysler. They didn't have any succes since they teamed up with SAAB in 1979 which resulted in the SAAB-Lancia 600. (Lancia-Delta)

I doubt that Fiat is interested to have a larger market in Scandinavia, too much competition with swedish and german brands that have already a large market there. It would be like if Renault would sell the Latitude here: almost no sales like happened with the Vel Satis. The force of Fiat are citycars and superminis so I think they should open towards emergent markets with these categories. But the real force of Fiat is mainly the diesel engines like Multijet, large used on other brands and in my opinion, the best you can find at the moment. Even Saab (and Opel, Ford, Peugeot, Tata, Suzuki and others...) used Fiat engines, 1.9 120 and 150 HP Saab came from Fiat ;) . At the contrary, for example Volkswagen make cars maybe better looking but its engines have many problems and high costs of maintenance. I have a 1.9 Multijet and the maintenance is only every 30.000 Km (change oil and ordinary things). The change of the transmission belt is at 150.000 Km. And the performances are excellent. Another planet comparating the TDI used on VW and Skoda :banana:

In Poland old Fiats (and Polski Fiats) are still very common and Polish climat is more similar to Swedish, than Italian. I think that very much depends from personal care for these cars - in Poland people buy cars for many years, so they want to maintain them in pretty good condition.

About Ritmo - indeed - my grandpa had one and sold it in 2001, because it was very rusty (had even gap in the roof). Then he bought poor Skoda Felicia from 1997; he has it for today and it's far from be as bad as Ritmo.

What about Russia? Lada of Soviet Union were nothing else than Fiat models used here 20 years earlier. And about cold climate is difficult to be colder than Russia ;-) but those cars like the 2103 are still large used (not only in Russia). Even the city where the Lada-Vaz is placed changed the name in 1964 in honor of Togliatti that permised the joint-venture with Fiat.

Ladas are quite uncommon here, but in Eastern Poland they were (and still are) more popular (I live in middle-south region). To be honest, I've heard that Russian Lada 2107 was more free from errors than its archetype - Fiat 124. Also Polski Fiat 125p/FSO 1500 had nothing to compare with Lada.

To be honest, I've heard that Russian Lada 2107 was more free from errors than its archetype - Fiat 124. Also Polski Fiat 125p/FSO 1500 had nothing to compare with Lada.


Well this is not surprising: Fiat 124 was produced from 1964 to 1974. Lada 2107 was produced since 1981 - 6 years later 124 went out of production. In six years technologies improved and got the time to fix problems there were maybe on the Fiat 124

In Italy they may, but in idiotic Soviet Union it was probably suprise also for constructors... :|

Speaking about Ladas...

LADA-VAZ 2101 (1970-1974). Spotted in Budapest (H)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/551369_3545098035151_1503535189_3167799_876929809_n.jpg

Speaking of eastern European cars...

I saw a car yesterday in Växjö which seemed to be a old Volga, but I was driving and couldn't take a picture.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6797/img20120326182021.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/img20120326182021.jpg/)
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1210/img20120326182105.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/img20120326182105.jpg/)

MG convertible in march.

MERCEDES-BENZ 190 SL (1955-1963) Spotted in Bergamo (I)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535500_3547828983423_1503535189_3169089_811133977_n.jpg

What about Russia? Lada of Soviet Union were nothing else than Fiat models used here 20 years earlier. And about cold climate is difficult to be colder than Russia ;-) but those cars like the 2103 are still large used (not only in Russia). Even the city where the Lada-Vaz is placed changed the name in 1964 in honor of Togliatti that permised the joint-venture with Fiat.

Actually do you think the Soviet industry bought the rights for the Fiat 124 model because it was a car suitable for russian road conditions ?

I don't think so. The small Fiat car was built for the curvy roads and narrow streets you find in the mediterrainian countries. It's not isolated for severe cold and it's very small. People of the mediterrainian are usually shorter than average length. (Look at actor Danny Devito) :)

So I think the purchase of the Fiat model first of all was because it was a cheap and simple car. It's not a bad car, but the reason that they lasted long was mainly because they costed a fortune for the ordinary soviet citizen, even if he had the money needed, he also had to wait for about 10 years before there was supply enough to get one. So the owner of the car looked after it carefully.

In Russia today still many old VAZ-Fiats are on the roads, but as Russia is the biggest country in the world with endless long roads and wide avenues in the cities smaller cars are being replaced with larger SUVs and jeeps.

The russian ideal car is of medium or large size like the Kia Sportage, Hyundai Solaris, VW Passat, MB GL & E-class.

Of course they drive small cars like the Dacia Logan, but I think the reason for that is not that they want a small car, but because the couldn't afford a bigger one. If the standard of living was higher they would buy bigger cars, which is not the case in mediterrainian countries because the bigger cars don't fit on the curvy narrow roads.

Actually do you think the Soviet industry bought the rights for the Fiat 124 model because it was a car suitable for russian road conditions ?

I don't think so. The small Fiat car was built for the curvy roads and narrow streets you find in the mediterrainian countries. It's not isolated for severe cold and it's very small. People of the mediterrainian are usually shorter than average length. (Look at actor Danny Devito) :)

So I think the purchase of the Fiat model first of all was because it was a cheap and simple car. It's not a bad car, but the reason that they lasted long was mainly because they costed a fortune for the ordinary soviet citizen, even if he had the money needed, he also had to wait for about 10 years before there was supply enough to get one. So the owner of the car looked after it carefully.

In Russia today still many old VAZ-Fiats are on the roads, but as Russia is the biggest country in the world with endless long roads and wide avenues in the cities smaller cars are being replaced with larger SUVs and jeeps.

The russian ideal car is of medium or large size like the Kia Sportage, Hyundai Solaris, VW Passat, MB GL & E-class.

Of course they drive small cars like the Dacia Logan, but I think the reason for that is not that they want a small car, but because the couldn't afford a bigger one. If the standard of living was higher they would buy bigger cars, which is not the case in mediterrainian countries because the bigger cars don't fit on the curvy narrow roads.

Danny DeVito is from south, there's difference from north to south even about the height (in Friuli the avarage is 178 cm whereas in Sardinia is 171 cm). Me myself is 185 cm for example, taller than many scandinavians :)

Maybe you are little bit confused but look that Lada bought the license for to make the Fiat 124, a family-car size... not the small Fiat 500 (Zastava produced small Fiat cars for the balkans). Already the Fiat 124, car of the year in 1967 had to pass severe tests both in Artict and Sahara and the russian version was an improved version adapted on their demands of the time (the use of thicker gauge steel for the bodyshell, an overhead camshaft engine, the use of aluminium drum brakes on the rear wheels in place of disc brakes, an auxiliary fuel pump and on early version a manual starting in the case the battery went flat). The result is a model sold in over 8.000.0000 units and that we can see still on russian roads (roads that fits for SUV). In the end, which were the alternatives in the '70s? VW Beetle? It was smaller than the 124... Citroen 2CV? The same... Mercedes-Benz? They were luxury cars even for most of germans... so Fiat 124 was the perfect car for them
Don't confuse the past with now, things were different in the '70s....even in Italy now you don't find only curvy roads and small cars. Milano-Reggio Calabria is 1200 Km of long and almost all straight road ;-)

EDIT. It was sold in over 18.000.000 units, I forgot the leading 1...

Alfa Romeo 1750 (1971). Spotted in Orio al Serio (I)
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/563376_3543979127179_1503535189_3167307_824342430_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/538076_3543981127229_1503535189_3167308_1212416695_n.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2903/imag0613p.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3262/imag0612q.jpg

Ford Model?

^^ Ford Crown Victoria, 1955

Satyricon, is Alfa Romeo Alfasud still possible to find in Italy? I spotted there a few 33s, but no Alfasuds. The same for GTV6, 90 and 75.

Cars from Karlstad / Sweden! :)

http://gazv8.users.photofile.ru/photo/gazv8/96064444/xlarge/127431171.jpg
http://gazv8.users.photofile.ru/photo/gazv8/96064444/xlarge/127362359.jpg
http://gazv8.users.photofile.ru/photo/gazv8/96064444/xlarge/127305869.jpg
http://gazv8.users.photofile.ru/photo/gazv8/96064444/xlarge/127324991.jpg
http://gazv8.users.photofile.ru/photo/gazv8/96064444/xlarge/127263699.jpg
http://gazv8.users.photofile.ru/photo/gazv8/96064444/xlarge/127264004.jpg

Satyricon, is Alfa Romeo Alfasud still possible to find in Italy? I spotted there a few 33s, but no Alfasuds. The same for GTV6, 90 and 75.

This is the only Alfasud I've spotted in the last years, Alfasud Sprint Quadrifoglio Verde that is one of the latest models. Very rare to find previous models on the street, now it's a car for collectionists. Maybe in the south where cars are older than here you can still find it...
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405628_2973604948181_1503535189_2956533_292670180_n.jpg

NSU Prinz (1957-1973). Spotted in Orio al Serio (I)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541564_3544023688293_1503535189_3167334_1059424837_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/563707_3544025568340_1503535189_3167335_578817142_n.jpg

Spotted today in Växjö

Chevrolet Bel Air

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet017.jpg

Plymouth Fury

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Plymouth.jpg

Spotted today in Alvesta

VW Beetle

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen012.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen013.jpg

Spotted today in Växjö

Chevrolet Bel Air

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Chevrolet017.jpg

Plymouth Fury

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Plymouth.jpg

Spotted today in Alvesta

VW Beetle

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen012.jpg
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i323/licenseplateman/Cars/Volkswagen013.jpg

cool cars you've seen today! me like! :)

Fiat 126 Personal 4 650 (1978-1985). Spotted in Cernusco sul Naviglio (I)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404000_3559865084318_1503535189_3174903_1466439298_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532979_3559868284398_1503535189_3174904_470550950_n.jpg

Guess what ''Riktiga bilar drar över 2 liter milen'' means :D

Real cars have more than 2 litres? :)

Fiat 125 and 126 I have only seen at exhibitions as far as I can remember. But I have seen Fiat 126 outside exhibitions if you count Polski Fiats. I posted it earlier in this thread. I spotted it in Karlskrona. It felt so funny to stand beside that car. I probably wouldn't fit in it :lol:

I'm 186 cm tall and I drove several of those, no problem. You would be suprised with how many people and/or stuff can be put in this tiny vehicle. Good sex possible too, yet not on the usual backseat, bot on all seats simultaneously ;)

Since we’re at Polski Fiat, here’s nice 125p spotted in Gliwice:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0800.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0801.jpg

MB W123 in Zabrze:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0817.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0816.jpg

Dacia 1310 in Katowice:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0823.jpg

And Ford Fairlane in Katowice:
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0808.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0810.jpg

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/swoboda_t/Klasyki/Zdjcie0809.jpg

^^ What is written on the Ford Fairlane's license plates? The Fiat 125p is well kept and very elegant even after all years it has. It was a great car!

Ford Fairlane Bluesmobile replica ! nice speaker on the roof ! It's Inspired from the movie Blues Brothers. But that car was another Police Ford.