# Projects: Homebush/Olympic Park

[SinCity]

I read in last weeks edition of the Parramatta Sun that the Sydney Olympic Park Authority has finally submitted a DA with the NSW Dept of Infrastructure, Planning and Natural Resources.

Basically its a staged development that calls for 4 new residential skyscrapers to be built at Olympic Park (Homebush Bay) ranging from 16 to ............ 30 storeys! :)

[James Saito]

30 STOREYS!!!!

:dance:

[Avatar]

yes 30 storeys is good but my rave is better
http://home.iprimus.com.au/allicit/Images/rave.01.gif

[CULWULLA]

ive just tried to find the homebush thread with all the info about these prjects but looks like its deleted! damn. that means it hadnt had any posts for a while.
oh well, new thread.there are renders of these enormous blds. ill have to try and find.
cheers

[Justin]

Wow that great news for Olympic Park, but SinCity has been banned? Has someone shot the messenger?

[Trances]

i think it was talked about in the old thread but still
good place for more density even if little isolated

[CULWULLA]

heres the render of the 20storey/60m towers.
are they now 30storeys?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126olympicpark.jpg

[finn]

^^There is one 30 storey tower in the masterplan for the site, directly opposite the Olympic Park train station.

[Maxtor]

heres the render of the 20storey/60m towers.
are they now 30storeys?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126olympicpark.jpg

Thats probably not a fresh render since all 4 towers now vary in height. Pretty exciting development for the area.

[climbing_crane]

8 levels is ok

[Fabian]

I took photos of a tower that is starting to rise opposite the station at the start of the month. Good to see some activity happening at long last.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/420/p40877554fq.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3120/p40877059fj.jpg

[Muse]

OK, what are we actually looking @ here? Is it related to the above renders?

[James Saito]

OK, what are we actually looking @ here? Is it related to the above renders?


No, this one is at the site 5, so it must be this:

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/developing_sydney_olympic_park/the_town/site_5

Description
22,000m2 of commercial space with retail at street level.
Potential worker population 1,300.

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/593/site5_artist_impression1_large.jpg

[MILIUX]

I recken it would look awesome if Olympic Park becomes another North Ryde buisness Park. High density up to 80m at Australia Buisness Park, HomeBush Bay. Like a buisness hubby. :D

[Mr Centrepoint]

Whoa 30 stories!! Besides whatever happened to thunderhead and his brother?

[christarrant]

Mark my words. Homebush will be an awesome suburb of Sydney in 10-20 years. Great mix of housing, commercial, retail and sporting facilities with good PT.

[finn]

I recken it would look awesome if Olympic Park becomes another North Ryde buisness Park. High density up to 80m at Australia Buisness Park, HomeBush Bay. Like a buisness hubby. :D

Current buildings at the Australia Centre will most definitely be redeveloped in the future as higher density office buildings.

BTW, the office building currently under construction (as seen in pics on this page) is the new call centre facilities for the Commonwealth Bank.

Also, a new 18-storey 5-star Sofitel is planned close to the Novotel, so the Olympic Park skyline holds a lot of promise for the future!

[MILIUX]

Imagine...30 storeys. Novetel is only 17 storeys, so it is almost twice as tall.

[CULWULLA]

went into lands dept today. took some snaps of new DA for Olympic bldv

Finn mentioned earlier-
An 18storey /218room Sofitel Hotel is planned to rise opposite Novotel
It rises 60m tall (same height as Novotel).
heres some model pix and side render.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5810/00003707oq.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1307/00003714uo.jpg

its a brownish facade at each end with mostly white finish on long elevations.
similar finish to KENS. same architects- PTW.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1317/00003721ub.jpg

application

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/819/00003730bo.jpg

[wowsim]

...Eeeeh very unfortunate looking in that render....It will be by far the ugliest building in a very modern and attractive neighbourhood IMO. Is it a recycled design from 1965?

[James Saito]

Yak!! That's a shocking design....
Very disappointing. :(

[Brizer]

PJW as designers; perhaps we shouldn't jump to too strong a conclusion until a clearer render arrives. It doesn't look that bad to me on available evidence.
(NB: PJW, not PTW)

For some idea of what the most recent designs for the apartment towers, try turner + associates site.

[MILIUX]

It's even more disgusting that Westpac Place! The same Architect as well! Someone ban that architect please!

[Cee_em_bee]

Swap that brown for a metallic blue or black and it looks completely different.

[CULWULLA]

not sure what you guys are lookig at but from what i saw its a fine design.There were many more renders and elevations but didnt post. This tower will be a great addition to Olympic blde.

[CULWULLA]

big article in todays fin rev about a 10storey office bldg about to start as part of a large complex in homebush.

[Cariad]

Is that part of the new CBA campus out there?

[CULWULLA]

^yes. 2x 8storey office blocks. approx 4000 workers. 250mil.
phonecam pic.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6945/combankhomebush5xh.jpg

[renell]

that building beside the Maccas and the Novotel looks hideous. It's out of sorts with the Telstra Stadium design and the general look of Olympic Park.

[papervagina]

Here's some renders of the CBA from the Sydney Olympic Park site (http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/):

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50011/site_6_and_7_artist_impression_01_large.jpg
http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50012/site_6_and_7_artist_impression_02_large.jpg
http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50013/site_6_and_7_artist_impression_03_large.jpg

Nice to see such a bold, interesting and colourful design... not.

[cammo2004]

Yeah, it mightn't be the most original design, but it looks nice.

It definitely looks good next to the station, at least.

[gazmo]

...In the news yesterday it was reported that CBA was going to "save millions" by moving 8,000 workers to Homebush and Parramatta.

[CULWULLA]

thanks papervag
some really large projects coming up. aready Uc is site 5 which will have 23,000sqm over 6 levels.
http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50010/site_5_dawnfraser_artist_impression_large.jpg

[Muse]

Looks like this along with Norwest is the way Melbourne has also been going...

Campus, campus everywhere.

There goes a lot of hope for CBA taking space in John Boyd Tower.

[christarrant]

Optus relocating to Ryde.
Comm Bank relocating to Homebush.
Woolworths centralising at Norwest.
Nestle relocating to Rhodes.

It's now the trendy thing to relocate OUT of the CBD and the flood gates will now open following the Comm Bank decision.

[papervagina]

The CBA will still have 5000 staff in the city, so I expect they're moving the less-skilled jobs.

I wonder how many staff these companies lose when they move out of the CBD? They might save in rent, but then have to pay people more to lure then from jobs that might be closer to home, easier to get to or in more interesting places (such as the CBD). They also seem to end up paying for shuttle buses and the like due to lack of public transport. Espcially Woolworths - their market for employees must now be limited to those with cars living in the area or the absolutely desperate.

[Muse]

Companies such as Woolies grew on the needs of desperate staff.

[Randwicked]

BAN CAMPII.

I guess that's not really fair in this case. At least there's a station at Olympic Park, unlike Snorwest.

[James Saito]

BAN CAMPII.

I guess that's not really fair in this case. At least there's a station at Olympic Park, unlike Snorwest.


There will be a station at Norwest in 15 years time...

[Randwicked]

There will be a station at Norwest in 15 years time...

There'll probably be a smoking crater where Sydney used to be as well. :scouserd:

[Gargarensis]

suburban business parks... thats what we get for having a public and private transport network that makes it so damned frustrating to get into the CBD on a daily basis... our trains and roads arent practical

[Muse]

Neither are the frikken public transport systems to get to these damn areas.

It's all lose-lose as far as I can see.

[SinCity]

Here's some renders of the CBA from the Sydney Olympic Park site (http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/):

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50011/site_6_and_7_artist_impression_01_large.jpg
http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50012/site_6_and_7_artist_impression_02_large.jpg
http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/50013/site_6_and_7_artist_impression_03_large.jpg

Nice to see such a bold, interesting and colourful design... not.

I dont mind it. :)

[CULWULLA]

The 18st Sofitel Hotel officially started constuction today! because it matches height of adjacent Novatel (60m) i can add to sydney's monthly diagram updates!
http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/developing_sydney_olympic_park/development_sites/hotels

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/45258/sofitel_hotel.jpg


http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1317/00003721ub.jpg

[MILIUX]

Hozzah!!!

[Brizer]

CBA HQ: not great but not bad either. Crisp detail, clean horizontal emphasis and well proportioned if unadventurous.

[SinCity]

I read somewhere that the new hotel's height is 20 storeys .... :dunno:

[coastal]

What a great group of hotels this will be. Something for all budgets, and you dont have to worry about the pub having a pool you have the nations biggest indoor aquatic centre right across the road.

[CULWULLA]

sincity. its 20storeys in total. 2 basements 18 above.60m in total to equal novotels height.

[papervagina]

I just found this application (http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/asp/06_0127.asp) on the Department of Planning site for a mixed-use building on site 3 at Olympic Park. It's two towers (16 storeys and 24 storeys), the architects are Turner and Associates and Fender Katsalidis and the developer is Multiplex Living. I don't think the towers are actually separate, but they look a bit different and there are two cores...

Here are a few renders from the application (there are elevations, floorplans and all sorts of other crap on the site as well).

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-3-1.jpg http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-3-2.jpg http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-3-3.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-3-4.jpg http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-3-5.jpg

Looks like things are going to get pretty busy out there!

[SYDNEYAHOLIC]

Looks crap.

I hope Sydney doesn't look like what's happening at Olympic Park in 25 years.

It's not that I'm against densification, but I prefer it to have a bit more design.

[James Saito]

I just found this application (http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/asp/06_0127.asp) on the Department of Planning site for a mixed-use building on site 3 at Olympic Park. It's two towers (16 storeys and 24 storeys), the architects are Turner and Associates and Fender Katsalidis and the developer is Multiplex Living.


Oh No!! What happened to this one???
This one looks much better with 3 towers!!!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2004/olympicpark01nt0.jpg

[CULWULLA]

thanks mr vagina. i love em. bob nation is cool.
the 24storey= 81m
16st- 56m.
to be known as North Bldgs A&B. the tallest bldg will be tallest at Homebush. Current tallest is 60m Novotel and Sofitel hotel will also be 60m, so this 81m will dominate the area.
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/asp/pdf/06_0127_west_elevation.pdf
so if these are located here, where are novotel and sofitel hotels?

http://www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au/__data/assets/image/46907/development_site_3_-map.gif

bigger renders

16st/56m
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3445/himebush2sd4.jpg

24st/81m
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9033/himebushtowerssz3.jpg

[Fabian]

Thanks Papervagina!!!! They look great. Love the gold running along the side of the tower.

[Brizer]

The North Building is the first of the 3 buildings illustrated in James Saito's post, redesigned.

[CULWULLA]

yes theres 3 more highrise to add along site.
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/asp/pdf/06_0127_site_plan.pdf

[CULWULLA]

you can tell its a nation/fender design. lots of gold (eureka) and colourful elements (red elements (eureka).

[Brizer]

And the heavy horizontals are typical of Turner & Associates, cf, buildings at Victoria Park.

[Fabian]

Today at Olympic Park

I saw a crane on the site of the CBA complex, however I did not have time to go up close and get a shot of its latest progress.

Here is a pic of the building on site 5 (with the CBA crane in background)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/Sydney%20Olympic%20Park%20and%20Easter%20Show/P4101057.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/Sydney%20Olympic%20Park%20and%20Easter%20Show/P4101206.jpg

Work underway on the Softiel Hotel. Basement levels are being constructed. No workers on site likely due to the Easter Show affecting access to the site

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/Sydney%20Olympic%20Park%20and%20Easter%20Show/P4101204.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/Sydney%20Olympic%20Park%20and%20Easter%20Show/P4101202.jpg

[CULWULLA]

^thanks for updates. i was wondering how it was going. building 5 is a smart looking lowrise (melb take note).

[papervagina]

Here's some renders of another of the proposed CBA buildings at Olympic Park; this one on site 4B (behind the new hotel). The second picture also has a decent render of the new hotel, something I haven't seen yet. I think this building will be home to Colonial First State (it looks a lot nicer than their shitty offices in Martin Place). It looks a lot snazzier than the CBA's last dull proposal out that way, too.

Anyway, more details on the Department of Planning's web site (http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/asp/06_0273.asp).

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/cba1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/cba2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/cba3.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/cba4.jpg

[Muse]

^^ Great renders vag. Loving the inteior shot of the last pic post. It looks so spacious!

The render in the 2nd pic above of the hotel is for Sofitel. Models & render posted by CULWULLA are on page 1 of this thread @ Post 19 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8607533&postcount=19)

...and gee, how much space is the CBA looking for? 2 seperate building complexes @ Homebush Bay, as well as looking for 60,000 sqm of contiguous space in the Sydney CBD.

The other CBA building renders post by you vag are on page 2 @ Post 30 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=9239146&postcount=30)

...

[Fabian]

Thankyou for the renders. Love the full height atrium inside the complex.
We need to start making regular visits out there.

Who said there's nothing for us to keep an eye on?

[CULWULLA]

i measured elevations and its exactly 35m to top of plant, which means it can be added to emporis.cool

[renell]

I just noticed those buildings were there after I saw those photos here. I went to Olympic Park last week... well I guess with massive structures like Telstra Stadium the other new developments really don't get much attention.

I reckon they should get some type of permanent Ferris wheel there, not just during the show

[LanceDriver]

i measured elevations and its exactly 35m to top of plant, which means it can be added to emporis.cool

i notice emporis has many buildings that are exactly 35m. :)

[CULWULLA]

^ thats why alot of areas and zones have 30m height limit for allowance for plant which alot seem to be 5m high.
If a bldg is 34.5m, it automatically goes up to 35m. Also if its 35.4m it rounded down to 35m. thus so many at 35m.

[Fabian]

I just noticed those buildings were there after I saw those photos here. I went to Olympic Park last week... well I guess with massive structures like Telstra Stadium the other new developments really don't get much attention.

I reckon they should get some type of permanent Ferris wheel there, not just during the show

I prefer that they install a chairlift and cable car at the showgrounds like they had at Moore Park. As I have said in a few threads, they offer great views of the city in a way that you cannot experience them.

[Muse]

From today's Fin Rev, Friday 4th May '07.

Architect: Peddle Thorp Walker...

Sports hospital fillip for Olympic Park

Mathew Dunckley

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/Syd_Olympic_Park_Hospitalrender_A.jpg

Better and better...an artist's impression of the hospital,
which will allow Owen Ferguson Health to expand.

A site at Sydney's Olympic Park once slated for an office building is to become a $60 million specialist sports hospital.

The project is a joint venture beetween Melbourne-based Australian Public Trustees and Owen Ferguson Health.

APT chief executive Darren Olney-Fraser said the property would become an asset for its Health and Aged Care Trust. APT owns nearby Canada Bay private hospital, which is also tenanted by Owen Ferguson Health.

"They are keen to move into a new facility to expand their hospital," he said, "They bid with us on the understanding that we will build the building."

Only Olney-Fraser said that the project still required development approval by the NSW government.

Approval was expected by the middle of the year.

It was then hoped a builder could be appointed and construction would start before the end of the year, and that the project would be completed in mid-2009.

The completed building would be worth about $40 million but fitout and other costs would make it a $60 million project.

The trust would take about a 10 percent yield from the deal, which compared well with attempting to buy a similar asset on the open market, Mr Olney-Fraser said.

OFH director Kerry Ferguson said the Canada Bay hospital was more than 30 years old and the new building would offer significant room for expansion.

It had an established orthopaedic practice among its services and consisted of about 40 beds and two theatres, she said.

"We knew we would have to develop the site or move somewhere else," she said.

The new facility, which was only five minutes' drive away, would allow up to nine theatres and 100 beds, she said.

Locating the hospital next to the stadium was a bonus.

"The reason we are very excited about Olympic Park is it really is a specialist hospital." she said.

"We do an awful lot of sporting injuries now, and work with some elite athletes."

"For us it seems like a logical venue."

After a slow start, the Olympic precinct's development as a commercial centre is gathering pace.

Last year, Commonwealth Bank of Australia announced it would ramp up its presence at Homebush significantly with a new campus development.

Other tenants include BP Solar, Compaq Computer Australia, Acer Computer Australia, Samsung Electronics and Sydney Water.

Charter Hall, GPT and Colonial First State Properties are among those with projects under way.

The Sydney Olympic Park Authority issues ground leases to developers on the land it controls, and executive director property Terry martin said that demand had increased annual rents from a range of $250 to $265 per square metre in 2002, to rates of $310 to $330 today.

[A r c h i]

New $63m development for Olympic Park (http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/New-63m-development-for-Olympic-Park/2007/06/21/1182019263551.html)
June 21, 2007 - 4:19PM

Sydney Olympic Park, which seven years ago was home to the world's athletes, is now well on the way to becoming a "critical" residential and commercial precinct for locals, the NSW government says.

Planning Minister Frank Sartor said he had approved a $63 million project at the Homebush Bay site which will see 208 residential apartments, four commercial units and a childcare centre constructed on Australia Avenue.

Approval of the Multiplex project means the government has now given the green light to $1 billion worth of developments at Olympic Park since 2000, the minister said.

"The precinct will be critical in our efforts to attract more investment to Sydney and keep NSW open for business," Mr Sartor said.

"These proposals will help to create an attractive and liveable precinct, which will become a significant residential, commercial and recreational hub for western Sydney."

[CULWULLA]

yes, saw this today in telegraph. im trying to workout which buidling there talking abouit? It says its on Australia st and is the first of 4 towers.Also mentions it will consist of 283 carparks.Construction will generate 370 jobs.
Also in todays FIN REV it mentions how MULTIPLEX and architects BABCOCK AND BROWN have secured the contracts for the new tower. ive searchged back through tthe thread and cant find anything on architects babcock and browns project?

[CULWULLA]

this article was in todays tele.
i havent come across this one before/ looks 26storeys? 80m?
i thought it had to be on display at the dept of lands?
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8365/homebushof1.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6159/homebushtowerez0.jpg

[papervagina]

i havent come across this one before/ looks 26storeys? 80m?
i thought it had to be on display at the dept of lands?

I think it's just a more realistic render of the one I posted here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=11707165&postcount=50.

[rob_]

yes, saw this today in telegraph. im trying to workout which buidling there talking abouit? It says its on Australia st and is the first of 4 towers.Also mentions it will consist of 283 carparks.Construction will generate 370 jobs.
Also in todays FIN REV it mentions how MULTIPLEX and architects BABCOCK AND BROWN have secured the contracts for the new tower. ive searchged back through tthe thread and cant find anything on architects babcock and browns project?

babcock and brown is a investment back. not sure what architect firm they are using. unless i guess, there are two babcock and browns in australia, one the architect and one the bank, which would be odd given the name!

[Brizer]

Babcock Brown is an investment company, currently involved with Cardy in developing the long commercial-residential section of Victoria Park, Zetland, along Sth Dowling Street.

[Muse]

^^ "Cardy"?

[CULWULLA]

yes papervag, its seems to be same site. excellent.

[Brizer]

Cardy, a development company. "893 Dowling" (Victoria Park) is unofficially referred to in Council documents as 'the Cardy Site'.

[Fabian]

I've noticed a third crane in the area from uni today. Another development starting up. It appeared to be east of the CBA site

[Muse]

Posted this in the general Skyscraper News & Discussion sub-forum too. Not great but not so bad. *smiles @ the last sentence* - wooops!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/BankArticleFinRevA.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/BankArticleFinRevB.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/BankArticleFinRevC.jpg

[cammo2004]

I reckon they may be waiting to see what Barangaroo coughs up. It's beginning to turn into a bit of a financial district down near KSW, what with Westpac already being there, and Macquarie Bank and AMEX to be moving down there. Would be a big LOL at the ones who have already bought in down there if CBA grabbed one of the big ones.

[CULWULLA]

a few years old but still good. would be a different scene in a few years with all the highrise going on.
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/3482/homebush3de.jpg

[Muse]

http://www.turnerassociates.com.au/system/files/portfolio51/Homebush%20MP.pdf

[Muse]

These were on the Charter Hall (http://www.charterhall.com.au) site. Nothing big deal. I feel I've seen them before anyway...

Zone at Sydney Olympic Park

Dawn Fraser Avenue, Sydney Olympic Park, Homebush NSW

Three six level A-grade commercial office buildings comprising approximately 42,500sqm of commercial office space, 6,100sqm of retail space and parking for approximately 900 cars.

Fund:
PDP3

Completion Date:
Stage 1 - February 2007 (So looks like @ least the first render relates to Fabian's pics on page 3, posted 10th April)

Key Tenant:
Commonwealth Bank of Australia

http://www.charterhall.com.au/_uploads/resized_images/Zone%20Site5_CBA_270x270.jpg

http://www.charterhall.com.au/_uploads/resized_images/Zone_Syd_OlympicParkView%2007%20L-Res_270x270.jpg

http://www.charterhall.com.au/_uploads/resized_images/Zone%20Site7_Night1_LR_270x270.jpg

[ToeJam]

driving past a few days ago i noticed a few cores rising in the homebush area.
im sure one was the sofitel hotel but there were two more rising that im not sure about closer to the station i think, maybe commonwealth bank?

if anyone can make their way out there and take a few snaps as im sure we would notice a lot of progress.

[CULWULLA]

yes we need regular updates from anyone that lives or visits ect.

[Fabian]

The best I can do is distance shots from Uni at Strathfield. I can get one of the cranes next week :)

[lawson18]

well thats just not good enough fabian , you have to go there to take the pictures

:lol:

[Fabian]

At least it's better than nothing. I don't own a car so it's hard to drive there. Getting to uni itself on PT is tough.

[lawson18]

yeah homebush is a bit hard to get to,why the hell are they putting a business park there,lack of transport there .I ve been past redfern industrial park the place looks quite nice and has life to it during lunch hours

[KIWIKAAS]

^^
eh? There's a underground station slap bang in the middel of it, there's a freeway running next to it, central location, etc.....
It's the ideal spot for such development.

Btw. Wouldn't this be cool around the Homebush area?

B7hgipbHBK8

[lawson18]

yeah but it runs on its own line ,one train runs back and forth which makes it shotty having to change platforms and all

[LanceDriver]

yeah, the way you've got to go from the cbd to lidcome and then walk at least 5 minutes around to the special platform then wait a while. it's not very well connected, but it could be. there are a few direct services between the city and olympic park but they are the rare exception.

[Fabian]

Took this at uni today :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/DSCF0076.jpg

[CULWULLA]

fab, what is core at left and what are cores at right?
are they new 18st hotel and CBA?

[Fabian]

Yep. The one on the left is the Softiel and the other CBA.

[CULWULLA]

thanks, now i can update diagrams.
cheers

[James Saito]

Photos taken today.

Sofitel:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3091/sofitel01gp5.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7013/sofitel02hi9.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5749/sofitel03as4.jpg

Sofitel from the behind:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4118/sofitel04es3.jpg

Site 3 new building:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6962/site301gq5.jpg

New shops!
Convenience store and take-away shop:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1783/site302xj0.jpg

News agency and Sushi shop:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7541/site303xh5.jpg

More shops comming soon...

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6426/site304zz8.jpg

Next building in the site 3:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8315/site305mi5.jpg

[CULWULLA]

great stuff james. sofitel is looking good

[Fabian]

Thanks James. The convience store is so polluting to the eye. I want a proper supermarket for the area instead of that overpriced @#$%.

[A r c h i]

Man I hate the AFR:

Business News
Commercial return
Mark Phillips
24 November 2007
Australian Financial Review (Abstracts)

Property developer AVJennings is planning two office buildings totalling 15,000 square metres on one of the last development sites available in Sydney's Olympic Park precinct, following confirmation of its securing of development rights in a joint venture with Ashe Morgan Winthrop. Although they have yet to gain leasing commitments for the A-grade campus-style office complex, the project consists of two buildings suitable for single or multiple occupants on the park's 4500 sq m site 13. Construction of the 4.5-star greenhouse rated buildings, AVJennings' first major foray into commercial development since the late-1980s, will begin within 12 months.

[CULWULLA]

the sofitel is just behind the ibis. core must be high now as you can see floor plates up to about 7.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2016759639_2fd353cb10_o.jpg

lots of new highrise

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/1871165618_c5cde753bb_b.jpg

homebush bay
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2088166887_6f3c480616_b.jpg

[LanceDriver]

it's a pity we don't have a keen forumer from out there, there's loads of development happening in that region.

[Fabian]

I'm the closest of the regulars to the area as I study at Strathfield, but then I don't have a car.

When I return to uni after Christmas (always needed there), I will get another distance shot.

[CULWULLA]

a member of my surf club is a site manager on sofitel. he told me last week its up to 13 in core and 10th floor level. going well.

[Fabian]

I''ll get a shot on Monday at uni as I will have a meeting to attend. Hopefully the folks are back at work.

[CULWULLA]

a member of my surf club is a site manager on sofitel. he told me last week its up to 13 in core and 10th floor level. going well.
core now @ lev16/floor12.

[CULWULLA]

core now topped out.floors at lev15 (as told bt bldg manager)
heres a pic from 2 months ago. you would be able to see it now from this view. we need recent pic
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2045/2236511398_91c021a31f_b.jpg

[Fabian]

It looks huge from the M4 when I was driving out to Penrith on Saturday. I'm at uni and it's dominant over the area too. I will get a shot today from here at Strathfield :)

[Fabian]

Here we go from today

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1430/dscf3004ra6.jpg

[CULWULLA]

thanks fabian. wow, looks tall.those cores, are they com bank at right?

[Fabian]

CBA it is :)

The Dome does feel small when compared to its new neighbours. Also the Showgrounds are set for an expansion with more exhbition space.

[g.m.n.y.]

i spoke with one of the town planners working on the site, and i don't know how much information has been made public at this point, but big plans!
out of the aprox 650 ha the site is made up of, only 150 will be built on. large town center, over 6,000 apartments. real rail access with a dedicated line. all sport facilities will remain. i'll try to get more specifics next time. i didn't want to freak her out with my whole " Omg!!! i'm a skyscraper nerd! tell me everything!". i'm grooming her for a lasting relationship.....

[James Saito]

It already has a "real rail access with a dedicated line" though.

[g.m.n.y.]

she said that they can only run a few trains from central at peak times w/o disrupting all of the other services that run on the same corridor. they're looking to do full time service.

[LanceDriver]

^ true, the extensive through running trains are rare, most are the special services that leave and return to the special platform at Lidcome and it sucks having to use that service.

[cristobal_underscore]

I was in homebush yesterday night for the Santana Concert!!!! (best night of my life so far)
It was the first time i've actually visited homebush, I never knew how 'grand' the place is.
This may sound weird but the avenue/boulevard kinda reminded me of the champs Elysees, minus the buildings.
I'm surprised that there was only 2 hotels there around the time of the olympics.
The area is really well landscaped and quite pretty at night.
I reckon the addition of more restaurants would be good, the selection was very limited, and better/quicker transport links, 40 mins from the city is horrible.

The suburb was quite dead in the daytime though.

Question, How tall is the Novotel tower?

[Fabian]

CBA floorplates have gone up another two levels. Saw this at uni earlier this week. Looks close to topping out too.

[Brizer]

See SMH today Sat01Mar: financial section, at back in the commercial real estate section.

[Fabian]

I read that article. Sounds good for the area with the Sydney CBD virtually full.

Meanwhile the core box for the Softiel has been removed. Saw this on the M4 yesterday evening.

[CULWULLA]

Rhodes skyline from homebushbay
i go thru this everyday. awesome. big office park with meritons flats -which actually look great

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/2306533039_ed0554ed71_b.jpg

[Cariad]

I think maybe they should paint some places grey next time .......

[CULWULLA]

theres actually lots of other colours. browns,blues.just cant see that much. also thats only half of the skyline.theres the rest just left of pic.

[CULWULLA]

took this today
sofitel just needs a paint
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/2357732920_74902cd3ef_b.jpg

[Fabian]

I got these whilst out there last night

Softiel

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9467/dscf3529ev3.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4813/dscf3525ma4.jpg

CBA

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6112/dscf3573mx6.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8567/dscf3572oi5.jpg

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/489/dscf3534od2.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9193/dscf3533bh3.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/776/dscf3532jl5.jpg

[MILIUX]

Convention facilities sprout up everywhere
Miles Clarke
299 words
28 February 2008
Australian Financial Review (Abstracts)
15
English
Copyright 2008 Media Monitors Australia Pty Ltd. All Rights Reserved

A potential economic downturn may lead to more Australian businesses seeking hotel conference facilities closer to home. This is good news for Melbourne, which has three major hotels under construction. Crown is building a new hotel to be opened in 2010, which will add to its Crown Towers and Promenade hotels, which already run at over 80 percent occupancy. In 2009 the Hilton Melbourne South Wharf will open next to the Melbourne Exhibition Centre, and will link Southbank and Docklands. Travelodge is due to open a new hotel in 2010 at Docklands. In Sydney Accor Hotels will launch its new brand, Pullman, at Sydney Olympic Park. The new high-tech business hotel will be positioned just below Sofitel. In regional Victoria, the Novotel Forest Resort Creswick will open next month. The Melbourne Grand Hyatt will open its new events centre in September, and the Rialto will reopen later this year as an Intercontinental Hotel after extensive refurbishment.

In early March, the Crown Plaza Torquay will open on the Victorian surf coast. The Intercontinental Hotel Group has experienced a 20 percent increase in occupancy rates in Western Australia in the past year, however labour shortages and the high cost of commercial land are making it difficult to enter in to any new ventures. In Queensland, the new home of the Jet Star Rugby League team is at Skilled Park on the Gold Coast.

Number of Mentions in original article: Crown, Crown Towers, Promenade, Hilton Melbourne South Wharf, Melbourne Exhibition Centre, Southbank, Docklands, Travelodge, Accor Hotels, Pullman, Sydney Olympic Park, Sofitel, Novotel Forest Resort, Grand Hyatt Melbourne, Rialto, InterContinental Hotel, Crown Plaza Torquay, InterContinental Hotel Group, Stradbroke Island Hotel, Stradbroke Island Beach Hotel/Spa Resort, Jet Star Titans Rugby League, Skilled Park

Document AFNR000020080227e42s0008y

[MILIUX]

Events seek CBD proximity
Jason Clout
194 words
21 February 2008
Australian Financial Review (Abstracts)
64
English
Copyright 2008 Media Monitors Australia Pty Ltd. All Rights Reserved

A report recommending the moving of more of NSW ’s events to Sydney ’s Olympic Park has been criticised by convention and exhibition organisers. The report was prepared by Australian Rugby Union chief executives John O ’Neill after the NSW government asked him to look at Sydney ’s requirements for convention and exhibition space, and it argues for the increase of exhibition space at the Sydney Showground at Olympic Park to allow for the transfer of some exhibitions from the Sydney Convention and Exhibition Centre at Darling Harbour. Matthew Pearce, managing director of Diversified Exhibitions Australia, said his company and others wanted more events near the CBD rather than fewer, and criticised the report as ’political expedience ’ to increase the profile of the Homebush Bay area, where the Olympic park is situated.

Mr Pearce also questioned Sydney ’s capacity to attract more big conventions, saying he did not believe capacity constraints at Darling Harbour had caused the city to miss out on international events.

Number of Mentions in original article: Darling Harbour, John O'Neill, Olympic Park, Sydney Convention and Exhibition Centre, Sydney Showground, Diversified Exhibitions Australia

Document AFNR000020080220e42l000kf

[CULWULLA]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2424047239_251bdb74a6_o.jpg

[Brizer]

NSW Planning site: Major developments on exhibition: Site 13.
2 buildings in 2 joined parts, 1 of 4 storeys, the other of 5, all 4 pods have a rounded front/end facing street.
Architects Bates Smart.
Not tall, but could be interesting architecturally.
Best option for info is the Architectural Statement which is very comprehensive especially for those of us who 'need' to know all the details.

Bates Smart are very busy little designers in Sydney these days.

[Fabian]

I was at uni today and I didn't have my camera to get some distance shots, but the crane for CBA is still there and Sofitel looks rather bland. Lots of exposed concrete.

[Stocko]

yeh when i went to the rugby the other week i saw sofitel and agree its really quite boring and bland. It looked like a precast concrete box painted a few colours, shame really

[finn]

Looks like Homebush/Olympic Park's skyline is set to grow.....and grow and grow!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/07/10/masterplan_wideweb__470x313,0.jpg

3000 to 14,000 people: race on to grow Sydney Olympic Park (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/race-on-for-new-sydney-boom-town/2008/07/10/1215282985670.html)

Sydney Morning Herald, July 10, 2008

The number of people living at Sydney Olympic Park area will go from 3000 to 14,000 by 2030, under a redevelopment plan announced by the State Government this morning.

Planning Minister Frank Sartor said the Sydney Olympic Park Draft Master Plan 2030 was "an example of Australian best practice in sustainable development".

But Auburn Mayor Le Lam said train and bus services would need to be dramatically increased to service the new residents and workers.

"We have ageing infrastructure that needs an injection to of funding to provide for this increased population. I am talking about new multipurpose centres, libraries, roads," she said.

"Even though Sydney Olympic Park has the railway station, I believe the services are limited and need to be increased.

"We would like to see more buses and a better schedule than existing services."

The draft document sets out a plan to build new high density residential, retail and office buildings and increase the number of people working at the site from 6000 now to 28,500 by 2030.

The stadia and sports arenas will remain unchanged but new student accommodation for 6000 students will be built inside the athletic centre precinct. The site's 10,000 car parking spaces will be retained.

Plans have already been approved for a residential apartment complex on Australia Ave which will include 675 apartments for about 850 people but the draft masterplan unveiled today also envisions new apartments in the central area near Herb Elliott Avenue.

New facilities would be paid for by developers, Mr Sartor said.

"The Draft Master Plan 2030 imposes no additional costs on the people of NSW for infrastructure funding, as works will be synchronised with a developer contribution framework," he said.

"It builds on the existing park, introduces a range of new uses to further activate the precinct and consolidates its position as an example of Australian best practice in sustainable development."

The new residents and workers will be provided with a library, childcare centres and playing fields.

The Premier, Morris Iemma, has given tentative approval for a V8 Supercar race to be held at Sydney Olympic Park once a year for the next five years.

[Trances]

Still being under used. If only there was some major develoment out there. Its not like Sydney is full othere there are not other sites. But it would be good to have long term development going on of real density and impact on the site. 2030 is realistic date I guess. 28,500 people working out there might even make it an instesting place to work or vist. But thats so far in the future.

[Fabian]

I don't know where they got the figure of 3000 from. There are no residential dwellings around Olympic Park at this stage unless they counted people in the developments around Rhodes Bay???

[James Saito]

I don't know where they got the figure of 3000 from. There are no residential dwellings around Olympic Park at this stage unless they counted people in the developments around Rhodes Bay???

Probably Newington as well?

[finn]

Probably Newington as well?

As of 2006 Census:

Newington has over 4,900 people - but the suburb of Homebush Bay has only 1,300 people (probably all in the Waterfront and Mariners Cove developments), so it's hard to figure out where the figure of 3,000 people came from? Maybe developments in Waterfront since June 2006?

Liberty Grove has just over 2,000 people, while Rhodes has about 1,700 people. Maybe they added Homebush Bay and Rhodes (which doesn't make sense because Liberty Grove sits between the two)? :dunno:

[SinCity]

I must say that one of the biggest stuff ups they made was that they created a shuttle train line for this area when they could have made a through line from Lidcombe across to Concord West. Thereby you would allow people commuting between Parramatta and Hornsby a direct link without having to change at Strathfield. Instead you have a terminus at Olympic Park that falls short of a couple of kilometres in which it could have hooked up with the main northern rail line. Stupid planning on the governments parts IMO. :ohno:

Apart from that the area is massive and could quite easily accommodate higher density. Good to see some plans in the pipeline.

[cammo2004]

I must say that one of the biggest stuff ups they made was that they created a shuttle train line for this area when they could have made a through line from Lidcombe across to Concord West. Thereby you would allow people commuting between Parramatta and Hornsby a direct link without having to change at Strathfield. Instead you have a terminus at Olympic Park that falls short of a couple of kilometres in which it could have hooked up with the main northern rail line. Stupid planning on the governments parts IMO. :ohno:

Apart from that the area is massive and could quite easily accommodate higher density. Good to see some plans in the pipeline.

Well, the West Metro (not the North West, which with the announcment of an M2 widening is probably canned) if on the 0.00000001% chance it was actually built, would rectify this.

Of course, it won't happen and the funds will be diverted to the M4 East and Port Botany tunnel.

[Brizer]

Open Road magz july/aug2008: p.29-
"From the way they talk, federal and state politicians alike seem serious about solving NSW traffic congestion problems. Of the $75 million earmarked for feasibility studies nationwide, $25 million is going to Sydney - $20 million for a feasibility study into the proposed Western Metron between Parramatta and the CBD, and $5 million to look at improving the M5 corridor from Port Botany/Sydney Airport to south-west Sydney.
The problem is, even at $25 million, talk is still relatively cheap."
And on it goes - make of this what you will.

[cammo2004]

Well, we've seen study after study after study on some things - it doesn't mean it's ever going to happen. Heck, even something being a gazetted project doesn't mean it'll go ahead in this state.

I personally remain skeptical until it is built and in operation, and then for 5 years after that, still skeptical as to whether it will remain open.

I've said it umpteen times, but what is needed is a wholesale dumping of the entire NSW parliament to drive home the message that sitting around doing nothing and wasting money in the process is not acceptable.

[Trances]

I just remeber working out there from 2001-2003 and it was dead as dead. I know it can't compare to Pitt but it needs to be attractive to workers.

[MILIUX]

Well, we've seen study after study after study on some things - it doesn't mean it's ever going to happen. Heck, even something being a gazetted project doesn't mean it'll go ahead in this state.

I think that since the Federal government has already allocated the funding (Infrastructure Australia) in the latest surplus, that they will spend it as planned. Probably start spending or plan to spend a year before the election. Who knows...maybe later.

[Brizer]

It's a special grants allocation so the state govt has no choice but to spend it on the specified project, but whether they will progress to the next stage will also doubtless depend on another federal special grants infrastructure allocation.
It's like a friggin' iceberg that not even global warming can speed up!

[Fabian]

Formula One Motel will be opening at Homebush on August 13. Rooms start at $89.

[CULWULLA]

homebush will be a great city oneday. we need more updates.
Sydneys 2nd AFL side is to start up there as home base in 2010.!

[Fabian]

The new team starts in 2012, Gold Coast is in 2011.

[rondeez]

I just remeber working out there from 2001-2003 and it was dead as dead. I know it can't compare to Pitt but it needs to be attractive to workers.

Those days are long gone.

The missus works there and the place is a buzz during the day... and the second part of the CBA campus is about to complete so even more so in the near future.

[James Saito]

Formule1 already opened.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2613/formule101up6.jpg

Cheap looking entrance and lobby :-)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/644/formule102ny1.jpg

Back side

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4287/formule103md4.jpg

Looks like there will be an office building behind Formule1?

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8989/formule104pz0.jpg


Sofitel looking good.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7976/hotel01mk8.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5531/hotel02wh5.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/898/hotel03we4.jpg

[James Saito]

Site 6 & 7 office buildings almost done.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6124/office01pf5.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3999/office02ru0.jpg


Love the glassy bridges!

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7891/office03mc0.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1730/office04zd1.jpg


Looks like Site 8 is under construction.

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1710/construction01ry9.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5176/construction02tp6.jpg


Found a better render image from their web site.
http://www.8australia.com/

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5302/construction03uf7.jpg

[LanceDriver]

it's hard to believe that formula 1, ibis, mecure, all seasons, sofitel and novotel are the same mob! i've enjoyed the luxuries of formula 1 on numerous accassions when i was younger! st peters rules!

[papervagina]

Well it's not a skyscraper, but it's nice to see something going on out there: a DA for a private hospital (http://planning.nsw.gov.au/asp/07_0047.asp).

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-hospital1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/sop-hospital2.jpg

PTW are the architects for this one.

[Fabian]

I read that the Pullman hotel is now open.

[CULWULLA]

recent pic over homebush
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/3094498329_ae3f13a374_b.jpg

[rondeez]

Very impressed with how it is all turning out!

Drive through it on any day and it is packed now and very hard to find free parking as most spots will be taken!!! Also lots of workers etc.

[CULWULLA]

look how dense the rhodes peninsula is in background.