I thought this was interesting:


project includes road, rail, pipeline and fiber optic link from the Lamu port through the northern town of Isiolo and eventually terminating in Addis Ababa and Juba


NAIROBI (Xinhua) -- Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga said the ground breaking ceremony for Lamu Port-Southern Sudan- Ethiopia Transport (LAPSSET) Corridor will be held in March.

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"We will be launching the Lapsset project that includes an electric train," Odinga told a forum for university students late Monday.

LAPSSET project includes road, rail, pipeline and fiber optic link from the Lamu port through Kenya’s northern town of Isiolo and eventually terminating in Addis Ababa and Juba.

The prime minister said Kenya has factored her northern neighbor in the ambitious LAPSSET corridor project, poised to be the largest investment in the East and Central Africa.

"The Lapsset project, once complete, will link the country to its two northern neighbors Ethiopia and South Sudan, opening up the region to immense socio-economic development along the transport corridor, especially in the northern, eastern and northern-eastern parts of the country and promote cross-border trade," he said.

The prime minister’s statement comes a week after the east African nation signed a memorandum of understanding with South Sudan for construction of an oil pipeline connecting the two countries.

The agreement which was signed in Juba will see the construction of an oil pipeline linking oil fields in South Sudan to the Port of Lamu that Kenya is set to build.

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The prime minister said the Lapsset project, which has a price tag of 24.6 billion U.S. dollars, will be the biggest single investment in Africa and is critical for transforming economies of Kenya, Ethiopia and South Sudan.

Last month, the prime minister said in Nairobi that the envisaged Lamu port will be well placed to handle imports and exports of the countries in the hinterland.

"We will have the ground breaking ceremony of the port in the next two months for the first three berths for the facility which will be placed to be the link of the East Africa to the rest of the world," Odinga said then.

"The port will be built in phases in order to accommodate the expected growing traffic of trade due rapid economic expansion of Ethiopia and South Sudan as well as the rest of the region," the premier said.

read @Xinhua via Coastweek (http://www.coastweek.com/3504_corridor.htm)

I'll believe it when I see it. The GoK seems to be taking its time on developing the Lamu Port. We've been hearing about it for years - where is it?

I'd rather we focus on developing our infrastructural links with Somaliland, such as connecting the rail from Dire Dawa to Jijiga and onwards to Berbera, and also pressing the Djibouti government to finish the Tadjoura Port ASAP.

^^ yeah, also the road to Moyale is another ex. Im not sure if there is better progress now, but I remember it was supposed to be built a while ago.

About the Somaliland connections, did we hear any news on the dry port in Togochale..I think I read that the road from Jijiga to Togo was completed? is that right?

I have no idea what's happening on the Moyale road - the Ethiopian portion has been ready for a while, but the Kenyan one has been lagging.

The road from Jijiga to Togochale has been inaugurated sometime last year - however the Somaliland side of the road is in terrible condition (understandable), so I don't know what they plan to do about that.

I didn't even know there was a dry port planned there. I don't think it's been done yet - they need the road to be completed first, don't you think? :dunno:

^^ I think your right, for some reason I might have mixed it up with Modjo (not sure why)

I think the closest dry port is probably going to go in Dire

^^ Weren't 2 dry ports under construction in Afar RS and Oromia?

After a quick search, the ones I found were the Modjo (Oromia) and Semera (Afar) that are U/C. There are 4 additional ones planned, in Mekelle, Dire Dawa, Moyale, and Woreta.

^^ yeah, Ras Siyan..the ones above (abesha's post). I dont know if the Semera and Modjo ones are complete yet or not but I know they were u/c last time I checked like abesha said.

Among the new ones, I think the Moyale one is meant for Kenya bound, the Dire for Djib & Somaliland bound and the Wereta for Sudan bound ..import/export.

After a quick search, the ones I found were the Modjo (Oromia) and Semera (Afar) that are U/C. There are 4 additional ones planned, in Mekelle, Dire Dawa, Moyale, and Woreta.

Here is the link Mojo dryport , and is functional.http://www.flickr.com/photos/74561619@N02/6716069855/in/photostream

Uganda , South Sudan , Kenya and Ethiopia, are linking their economies very fast , we need to work for a full transport(rail ,air road) , telecommunication, and economic cooperation ( like the four countries working together for a common tax system, and a common market) that would benefit citizens or companies from any of those countries when they do business in another country of the common market.

fear not my brothers, this project is happening, and happening fast... You think of it this way.People see south sudan's action shutting down production as action against the north, think of it this way. You buy about 500,000bpd of my crude and youre dragging your feet building me a pipeline to deliver you fuel, lets see how you feel without the 500000bpd. China will probably beat the 18 months deadline for the 2000KM pipeline, Which means that once fuel gets there, then issues like the port, a suitable road network and necessary facilities will quickly come into play... you watch this space...

The project is a mega one. patience pays, lets home it goes through

Inaugration Of the Lamu port construction

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Good to see that it's moving forward. They recently inked a Addis Ababa - Lamu railway deal as well.

Why is Ethiopia interested in the port when they are close to Djibouti and Eritrea for all their needs?

Is there another conspiracy about this?:lol:

Why is Ethiopia interested in the port when they are close to Djibouti and Eritrea for all their needs?

Is there another conspiracy about this?:lol:
Check the map of East of Africa and you will figure it out.

Why is Ethiopia interested in the port when they are close to Djibouti and Eritrea for all their needs?


Sending well needed business away isn't wise.

Check the map of East of Africa and you will figure it out.

http://www.capitaleritrea.com/wp-content/uploads/EASBRIG.jpg

You are still closer to the Eritrean and Djibouti ports than Lamu.

Why is Ethiopia interested in the port when they are close to Djibouti and Eritrea for all their needs?

Is there another conspiracy about this?:lol:

What conspiracy there is other than economicaly benefiting Ethiopia and Kenya? Can you tell us? May be you know something?

Eritrea? I think you know the reason.

What conspiracy there is other than economicaly benefiting Ethiopia and Kenya? Can you tell us? May be you know something?

Eritrea? I think you know the reason.
The project was obviously meant to open up the northern part of Kenya in terms of developing the area.

As for Ethiopia, I really dont know why it's there because there are ports in Djibouti, Somaliland and Eritrea that are closer to Ethiopia than our upcoming Lamu port.

Do you have reasons why Ethiopia is part of the project?

Sending well needed business away isn't wise.
It's economically beneficial for us if they will be using our port and paying for the service but it's also suspicious why they would go for a port far away than the ports nearby. The economic feasibility of them being in this project doesnt seem be well calculated and it also breeds suspicion.

Do you have reasons why Ethiopia is part of the project?
To serve the central and southern regions.
To boost economical trade with Kenya, by using infrastructure that will be built along the port.
To create competition between port-countries, it's not wise to be heavily dependent on one country. Like we are today with Djibouti. Eritrea is closed. Somalia's future is yet uncertain.
Last but not least, to export secret toxic waste...oops!

It's economically beneficial for us if they will be using our port and paying for the service but it's also suspicious why they would go for a port far away than the ports nearby. The economic feasibility of them being in this project doesnt seem be well calculated and it also breeds suspicion.

How is it far away from Ethiopia? Ethiopia is a massive country, the north and eastern regions might be closer to Eritrea/Djibouti But the south is closer to Kenya.

You're too paranoid mate:lol:

How is it far away from Ethiopia? Ethiopia is a massive country, the north and eastern regions might be closer to Eritrea/Djibouti But the south is closer to Kenya.

You're too paranoid mate:lol:
:lol: Yeah the map didn't help him out. He's not paranoid, he's just trolling.

Why is Ethiopia interested in the port when they are close to Djibouti and Eritrea for all their needs?

Is there another conspiracy about this?:lol:

Sigh - guys, Jamaax has discovered our big secret. :(
Yes Jamaax, we plan on invading and colonizing Kenya while you're busy chasing Somali donkeys across the border. How did you find out? It was top secret :bash:


Roha, thanks for the video. It's finally taking off!

It's economically beneficial for us if they will be using our port and paying for the service but it's also suspicious why they would go for a port far away than the ports nearby. The economic feasibility of them being in this project doesnt seem be well calculated and it also breeds suspicion.
Our coffee producing areas like Yirgachefe and south oromia are closer to the Lamu port than to the Djibouti or any other port .Our upcoming agriculture star the Gambela state in southwest Ethiopia is closer to Lamu than Djibouti.Beside that we really want to diversify our port options because the Djiboutians charge of port became like an extortion.You know before the Ethiopian-Eritrean war Djibouti port used to handle only 10% of Ethiopia's export-import, now it is like 90% .So a big and fast growing country like Ethiopia need more ports.

To serve the central and southern regions.
To boost economical trade with Kenya, by using infrastructure that will be built along the port.
To create competition between port-countries, it's not wise to be heavily dependent on one country. Like we are today with Djibouti. Eritrea is closed. Somalia's future is yet uncertain.
Last but not least, to export secret toxic waste...oops!
Unless all the distribution channels between those closer countries are running at their maximum capacity, there is still no need on having another distribution channel. All the distribution channels are not running at their capacity in this case which makes one wonder what is really the reason of having another one.

Having a trade with Kenya is something that has never been there for all the years and I wonder how this will change. Ethiopia is closed economically and has been so for a very long time. The video and the project doesnt give any details on how they are going to open up to enable the trade to flow both ways.

I personally wouldnt have like this port to be built near Somalia. It should have been built near Tanzania, south of Mombasa city but it's okay since there is something to gain.

Sigh - guys, Jamaax has discovered our big secret. :(
Yes Jamaax, we plan on invading and colonizing Kenya while you're busy chasing Somali donkeys across the border. How did you find out? It was top secret :bash:


Roha, thanks for the video. It's finally taking off!

Yes, some of us have already figured out there is going to be an interference with our sovereignty.:lol:

Ethiopia has never been interested in opening up economically. This talk about trade is just pure BS.

Unless all the distribution channels between those closer countries are running at their maximum capacity, there is still no need on having another distribution channel. All the distribution channels are not running at their capacity in this case which makes one wonder what is really the reason of having another one.

Did you miss the part of not being dependent on one country?


Having a trade with Kenya is something that has never been there for all the years and I wonder how this will change. Ethiopia is closed economically and has been so for a very long time. The video and the project doesnt give any details on how they are going to open up to enable the trade to flow both ways.

Trade between Kenya and Ethiopia, compared to Kenya and Tanzania/Uganda, is like a drop in the ocean. We haven't even started. Connecting highways are under construction, railways deals are in place.


I personally wouldnt have like this port to be built near Somalia. It should have been built near Tanzania, south of Mombasa city but it's okay since there is something to gain.
The past few months have shown that this is indeed a risk, militants are crossing the border and launching attacks relatively easily. But I hope that the coming year will change the situation in South Somalia to the better which will benefit us all.

I am excited this is about to take off, this project is beneficial for all the 3 countries! An increase of 3% or more in GDP growth!

Ethiopia has never been interested in opening up economically. This talk about trade is just pure BS.
Some sectors are closed for now, until Ethiopia catches up. But there's more to trade than telecom and banking.

Also, keep in mind how long it will take before this project finalizes, with the rest of the planned infrastructure. I'm sure that the economy will be more open by then.

You have nothing to lose, why the hell are you nagging.

Did you miss the part of not being dependent on one country?


Trade between Kenya and Ethiopia, compared to Kenya and Tanzania/Uganda, is like a drop in the ocean. We haven't even started. Connecting highways are under construction, railways deals are in place.


The past few months have shown that this is indeed a risk, militants are crossing the border and launching attacks relatively easily. But I hope that the coming year will change the situation in South Somalia to the better which will benefit us all.

Spot on, I believe we should foster growth between our two countries because we have much in common. This opens up a new transport corridor and the ripple effect will be increased activity and investment in all these areas. This is the opportune moment for our economies to take off.

Did you miss the part of not being dependent on one country?
Hargeisa, Djibouti and Eritrea are all closer to Ethiopia and these are in 3 countries. You dont have to go all the way to Kenya when these countries are still capable of the same thing and are even closer.

Trade between Kenya and Ethiopia, compared to Kenya and Tanzania/Uganda, is like a drop in the ocean. We haven't even started. Connecting highways are under construction, railways deals are in place.
It's not going to start anytime soon!I think Kenya should distance itself from Ethiopia until you become a "normal" country meaning that your economy runs transparently and openly and there is no dictatorship.

Ethiopia would rather buy weapons to discipline Al-Shabaab than thinking of liberalizing it's economy.

The past few months have shown that this is indeed a risk, militants are crossing the border and launching attacks relatively easily. But I hope that the coming year will change the situation in South Somalia to the better which will benefit us all.
I hope they will work on the buffer zone to deal with this in future or they can just annex this country between Kenya and Ethiopia and give some form of an autonomy.I mean it's time to solve the Somalia issues once and for all.

I hope they will work on the buffer zone to deal with this in future or they can just annex this country between Kenya and Ethiopia and give some form of an autonomy.I mean it's time to solve the Somalia issues once and for all.

:lol::lol: Now I know why they call this lad a troll:lol:

Your army cant even handle our donkeys what makes you think you can annex a whole nation

Jamax, you are truly an incredibly thick person. How can someone object to creating trade links with the biggest country in its region?? Just mindblowing.

:lol::lol: Now I know why they call this lad a troll:lol:

Your army cant even handle our donkeys what makes you think you can annex a whole nation
:lol:

That story was taken out of context and exaggerated.

Jamax, you are truly an incredibly thick person. How can someone object to creating trade links with the biggest country in its region?? Just mindblowing.
The problem with Ethiopia:

-Your country runs on dictatorship.
-Your economy is not transparent and is closed in most cases.

How can we have links?

We can work well with EAC and other "normal" countries.Even Somalia is a bit open without a proper functioning of many stuff.

- Our political system is not your business - your country is hardly a beacon of democracy, what with machetes getting involved
- You don't need a transparent and open economy to use a port

How many years did machetes got involved?You cant use a 2 month period to make a general observation like that.

For countries to trade and have links such economic links, there needs to be some form of transparency on how things work. This is absent in both your economy and leadership. We just cant work together!

About the port, I already told you there are grounds to suspect you dont really need any links with us and I explained that.There is no economic sense of using a port from Kenya than let's say Somaliland or Djibouti.

Who told you we don't use those ports? There's a 2nd port u/c in Djibouti which will be exclusively for our use. We use Berbera Port but we're waiting for Somaliland to fix the road and security on the road to increase our use of it. We're already using Port Sudan. Lamu is just one of many options - don't flatter yourself that you'll be the main port. You're just one of the different options.

As for 1 incident, bla bla bla, why shouldn't it be mentioned? You're criticizing our political system, which has tons of faults, yet expecting me to stay silent on yours? Your people hacked each other to death over a freaking election, so clearly, you have a long road to achieving a true peaceful democracy. You have no business using that as a criteria when dealing with other countries. What a joke!

Second, if you are sure you don't want to have trade links with Ethiopia, by all means go ahead and exercise your "democracy" and tell your leaders to stop the Lamu Project. Thankfully for your sorry ass, they know it would be an extremely stupid decision to alienate a landlocked country twice your size.

All these ports you are using are not running at their maximum capacity and the fact that you have said you are constructing another exclusive port in Djibouti even adds more weight of you not needing a port across Kenya.It's economically wiser to upgrade your internal infrastructure than focusing on something you dont need across the border.

About the violence, we had a peaceful transition of about 40 years yet you are going to judge something based on 2 months' event?My criticism on your leadership makes more sense because it has lasted for a very long time unlike the event in Kenya that took only 1-2 month. Even other people use such scenarios to come up with judgements on a lot of stuff. Many organizations and companies wont have stayed in Kenya if they went by what you are saying because a strong judgement has to be supported by something that happen over a very long period of time.

Personally I would have been very cautious of this.I know our leaders calculated the economical benefit of it but were probably not aware of other implications.;)

- Our political system is not your business
:lol:

Great Project. congrats East African.

Now some things are interesting. Why would i be interested whether ethiopia is a democracy or not when all i want is increase in the volume of trade?

Now some things are interesting. Why would i be interested whether ethiopia is a democracy or not when all i want is increase in the volume of trade?

In Jamaa's world, that's very important. :)

I'm thinking about the number of lives this project will have an impact on. Its like a rebirth of a whole new section of the region. Almost like the creation of modern Kenya as we know it (almost all our major cities sprung up along the railway line between Uganda and Mombasa. Now we may get to see the birth of new urban centres spread from Lamu to virgin territories in South Sudan, vibrant industrial centers in Southern and Central Ethiopia.)

I believe that the manufacturing centres based in Asia will soon start looking for cheaper production zones as the living standards in asia begin to rise together with wages pushing up the cost of production. Now with the massive investments taking shape throughout the region in infrastructure (roads, rail, ports, power, communication....) its not hard to see the pieces of the puzzle falling into place. Lamu is a big step in that direction.

Now some things are interesting. Why would i be interested whether ethiopia is a democracy or not when all i want is increase in the volume of trade?
Ethiopian interest on Lamu port is to get another distribution channel (alternative port) and not to increase trade. If you go over the thread, you will notice that even the Ethiopian forumers have repeatedly made this clear.

Ethiopian interest on Lamu port is to get another distribution channel (alternative port) and not to increase trade. If you go over the thread, you will notice that even the Ethiopian forumers have repeatedly made this clear.

whatever it is, Kenya is going to benefit greatly jamaa-whats wrong with you? Do you want Ethiopia to block trade routes with all other countries so that you can appreciate this project? What if there is an emergency in Kenya and Ethiopians have to continue with their life?

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Ethiopian interest on Lamu port is to get another distribution channel (alternative port) and not to increase trade. If you go over the thread, you will notice that even the Ethiopian forumers have repeatedly made this clear.

I bet its not so hard to figure out that once they start using the port the volume of trade between the two countries will increase.

:lol::lol: Now I know why they call this lad a troll:lol:

Your army cant even handle our donkeys what makes you think you can annex a whole nation

What donkeys are you talking about? And who is 'we' in the context?

whatever it is, Kenya is going to benefit greatly jamaa-whats wrong with you? Do you want Ethiopia to block trade routes with all other countries so that you can appreciate this project? What if there is an emergency in Kenya and Ethiopians have to continue with their life?

I have no problem with them in this project, it's just that the economic calculation on them being inside did not appear to be favourable enough. I wish them all the best and I know we are obviously going to benefit from something.:cheers:

I bet its not so hard to figure out that once they start using the port the volume of trade between the two countries will increase.
Yes, but that depends. South Sudanese interest for example is to use the port for exporting their oil and not to increase the volume of trade.

Jamaa, pliz, just keep quiet. The Lamu project is a Kenyan brainchild, not Ethiopian. Get from that that it's being constructed to benefit Kenyans, and since Ethiopians have to get linked to the world, they have to get connected to a port.

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Thanks for the video Roha.

Funny how whenever these type of projects come up, the environmentalists and conservationists create some conspiracy crap about their negative effects on the environment.

XJ now you are really start getting very annoying.

http://i.imgur.com/vZNda.gif

Jamaa, pliz, just keep quiet. The Lamu project is a Kenyan brainchild, not Ethiopian. Get from that that it's being constructed to benefit Kenyans, and since Ethiopians have to get linked to the world, they have to get connected to a port.
Yes, I agree!:okay:

XJ now you are really start getting very annoying.

http://i.imgur.com/vZNda.gif
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Anyway this is one of the best projects in the region. I hope we will have more of these in future.

I have no problem with them in this project, it's just that the economic calculation on them being inside did not appear to be favourable enough. I wish them all the best and I know we are obviously going to benefit from something.:cheers:

The reason there is a vibrant trade between Kenya Tanzania/Uganda is due to the well developed infrastructure link by the colonialist. Now that there will be a railway link between kenya and Ethiopia trade volume will increase dramatically. Lamu port will be another sea getway for Ethiopian economy as well and at the same time boosting Kenyan economy. Oh! and the 400 MW energy deal between Kenya and Ethiopia will help Kenya develop its industries.
Mr xJamaax, why don't you let us Ethiopians worry about our internal problem? I don't think our problem is affecting Kenya in anyways.

Yes, but that depends. South Sudanese interest for example is to use the port for exporting their oil and not to increase the volume of trade.

And why do you think there are plans to build one refinery in isiolo and another in lamu?once infrastructure is in place market dynamics take over. Dont forget the roads from isiolo to moyale are ongoing.

And why do you think there are plans to build one refinery in isiolo and another in lamu?once infrastructure is in place market dynamics take over. Dont forget the roads from isiolo to moyale are ongoing.

That may be the case too.From what I understood is that South Sudanese main interest is for exports of its oil while Ethiopia just looks for another alternative port.The Ethiopian interest has been repeatedly been said by a number of people here.

Maybe I am also not very informed on the details, if what you are saying is the case then that's even better.;)

The reason there is a vibrant trade between Kenya Tanzania/Uganda is due to the well developed infrastructure link by the colonialist. Now that there will be a railway link between kenya and Ethiopia trade volume will increase dramatically. Lamu port will be another sea getway for Ethiopian economy as well and at the same time boosting Kenyan economy. Oh! and the 400 MW energy deal between Kenya and Ethiopia will help Kenya develop its industries.
Mr xJamaax, why don't you let us Ethiopians worry about our internal problem? I don't think our problem is affecting Kenya in anyways.

It's a good project, there is nothing to worry about bro.

This is THE project going on in Africa right now. I think particularly Ethiopia will gain a lot.

As a landlocked country in a troubled part of the world Ethiopia MUST develop as many export/import routes as possible.

I practically orgasm over the possibility of it linking up to Cameroon (and from there Nigeria would be a short step. Though I think the only way it could be economically feasible is if it ran through DRC.

^^ The media calls it the "biggest African project" (quoting Kenya's leader).

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58831000/gif/_58831456_kenya_infrastructure_464.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17231889

The first phase is said to be completed within 4 year. They're counting on international investors, the project won't finalize without investors (at last according to that timeline). I think it will take 6-7 years.

What donkeys are you talking about? And who is 'we' in the context?

I wasn't addressing you, so its none of your business!

I wasn't addressing you, so its none of your business!

Attitude;why didn't you pm then?

A good question.

In the last 6 months we heard about a number of port and pipeline projects.
The latest one Lamu.
Are all these projects fake or does South Sudan really intend to build two additional pipelines (after the one to Port Sudan) to Djibouti and Lamu ?
That is unlikely.
In that case normally Ethiopia should be more interested in supporting the one to Djibouti.

What does Ethiopia benefit in taking part in this Lamu project ?


http://ethiopiaforums.com/somaliland-ethiopia-and-china-to-sign-trilateral-deals

http://nazret.com/blog/index.php/2012/02/09/south-sudan-to-build-a-pipeline-to-the-port-of-djibouti-via-ethiopia-1



The project was obviously meant to open up the northern part of Kenya in terms of developing the area.

As for Ethiopia, I really dont know why it's there because there are ports in Djibouti, Somaliland and Eritrea that are closer to Ethiopia than our upcoming Lamu port.

Do you have reasons why Ethiopia is part of the project?

Surveyors map out Lamu to Ethiopia transport project

Surveyors have started mapping out Kenya’s second transport corridor with an eye on establishing compensation for possession of land which the 2,000 kilometre project will require. Transport ministry permanent secretary Cyrus Njiru said yesterday in Nairobi that although there will be no compulsory acquisition, local authorities in Lamu, Garissa, Moyale, and Isiolo as well as individuals will have to give up land to accommodate the project.

“We have started mapping out areas where the transport corridor will pass through from Lamu all the way to Doula. After the exercise, the government will identify those who will be affected and deserve compensation,” Dr Njiru said. The $1.5 trillion Lamu Port-South Sudan-Ethiopia Transport (Lapsset) corridor is expected to open up northern Kenya for development and trade, linking the region with the coast as well as South Sudan and Ethiopia.

Besides the port, the project includes a 1,720 kilometre standard gauge railway line from Lamu to Juba; a two lane highway through Isiolo to Nakodok, a pipeline, an oil refinery, three resort cities, and three airports at Lamu, Isiolo, and Lokichogio. The projet is supported by authorities in Kenya, South Sudan, and Ethiopia whose presidents witnessed the ground breaking ceremony two weeks ago.

“Uganda has remained our top bilateral partner in this region. We anticipate that the transport corridor will open up commercial ventures with Ethiopia which has a population of 94 million people (maybe typo..84?) and increase our trade volume,” Dr Njiru said.The corridor will be among key issues for discussion at an Intergovernmental Authority on Development (Igad) conference to be held in Nairobi next week.

It has attracted interest from financiers who are waiting to know funding options being considered before committing themselves to specific actions.

BusinessDailyAfrica (http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Surveyors+map+out+Lamu+to+Ethiopia+transport+project/-/539550/1367296/-/fkbc7kz/-/)

^^ Good news ,thanx Yosef:cheers:
Ethiopia's population passed 90 million last july 2011 according to the CIA Factbook estimate.so it could be 92 or 93 million right now.

^^ Good news ,thanx Yosef:cheers:
Ethiopia's population passed 90 million last july 2011 according to the CIA Factbook estimate.so it could be 92 or 93 million right now.
holy crap :shocked: , I had no idea we passed the 90 mark. We might have to start slowing down. thanks