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desertpunk
March 4th, 2012, 08:28 AM
I found these remarkable images taken two days after President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6793129236_45064ca7e5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793129236/)
Texas School Book Depository Nov.1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793129236/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6793135128_83bc0cc2be_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793135128/)
Front of The Texas School Book Depository Nov.1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793135128/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6939237189_659dc0dba6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6939237189/)
JFK Assassination Dealey Plaza Nov.1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6939237189/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7208/6939242835_db7bae5e64_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6939242835/)
Dealey Plaza Nov. 24 1963 Dallas, Texas (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6939242835/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6939234991_12c8ec0dee_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6939234991/)
Dealey Plaza Dallas Nov.24 1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6939234991/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/6793128110_4ecef96101_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793128110/)
Dealey Plaza Nov. 1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793128110/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7039/6793131972_dfa8554e84_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793131972/)
Memorial and Flowers to President Kennedy Nov. 24, 1963 Dallas (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793131972/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7040/6793556774_68fef17260_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793556774/)
Dealey Plaza Nov. 24 1963 JFK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793556774/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/6793556448_a80e48af91_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793556448/)
Ready Mix Truck Dallas Nov1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793556448/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/6793557050_c9d7c6a1b9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793557050/)
Dallas police servi-car Harley trike Nov 24 1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793557050/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6793121274_96f383d86c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793121274/)
The Texas School Book Depository Nov. 24 1963 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19968675@N04/6793121274/) by windryder (http://www.flickr.com/people/19968675@N04/), on Flickr

Amazingly, Main, Elm and Commerce Streets were reopened to vehicular traffic and onlookers and mourners were allowed to freely roam the infamous Grassy Knoll while the Texas Book Depository Building was also free of any barricades or cordon. I can only imagine a similar site today after such an event...

dfwcre8tive
March 4th, 2012, 07:12 PM
Great find. There are a lot of discussions about how to celebrate the 50th anniversary of this event coming up in a few years.

Meanwhile, the old sign has been restored:

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/03/sixth_floor_museum_restores_original_texas_school_depository_sign_then_hangs_it_inside.php

Would be interesting to see the old Hertz sign (now in storage) reinstalled on top of the building.

Mister Nifty
April 18th, 2012, 05:00 AM
Great find. There are a lot of discussions about how to celebrate the 50th anniversary of this event coming up in a few years.

Meanwhile, the old sign has been restored:

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/03/sixth_floor_museum_restores_original_texas_school_depository_sign_then_hangs_it_inside.php

Would be interesting to see the old Hertz sign (now in storage) reinstalled on top of the building.

Celebrate? Is a better word choice commemorate?
I will admit that people today should be less bothered to commemorate than those closer to the acual happening because so much more has been found out about the deeds of president Kennedy.
Think about it. In three days, a president, a police officer, and a marine were all executed. Who killed the marine? Well, it was a known mobster.
Believe it or not, the case was already wrapped up by the twenty-forth of November two days after the assassination as it was already determined that Lee Harvey Oswald had acted alone shooting the president from the sixth floor of the School Book Despository building.

ardamir
April 18th, 2012, 04:09 PM
It is hard to believe that such a horrible event occurred in our state.

desertpunk
April 18th, 2012, 09:48 PM
It is hard to believe that such a horrible event occurred in our state.

It's a BIG state. Good things as well as bad things will happen. But looking at the life of Lee Harvey Oswald, it's clear that he would just have easily done the deed in New Orleans. :/

Mister Nifty
April 19th, 2012, 12:11 AM
It is hard to believe that such a horrible event occurred in our state.


If the horrible event had never happened, then how would Dealy Plaza be rated as a park today? What about the term "grassy knoll?" When looking at the park, or whatever it would be considered, it is hard to imagine it as anything but a chamber designed to hide sniper's nests. Lord, there could have been dozens of snipers at Dealy Plaza.
I stumbled across an oddity myself while looking at one of those thin books of photographs printed after the assassination. It showed a picture of the the secret service agent who ran to catch up with the limo after the fatal head shot. He was straddled over everyone in the back of the motorcade as it raced towards Parkland hospital on Stemmons Expressway. Over to the left was what looked like a truck owned by the light company and it had two men elevated in a bucket lifted up in the air apparently changing a light. It just seemed strange that workers would be allowed in such an area during that important event.
And figure while it's puzzling the way Jack Ruby was allowed to roam freely in the Dallas police station to get up close enough to kill Oswald, it's beyond perplexing the way he was allowed not only to get inside Parkland hospital while all that chaos was taking place, but within close proximity to the president of the United States and the governor of Texas.
What makes me suspicious most about the tragic event isn't so much the obvious, but how little we knew about our government during that time. No one will ever know what happened, but we all should know now, because of this tragic occurence, how evil our government was during the time and how it was certainly capable of committing any amount of treachery.

Munwon
April 19th, 2012, 07:36 AM
Look at all those time travel tourists!

desertpunk
April 24th, 2012, 05:39 AM
Celebrate? Is a better word choice commemorate?
I will admit that people today should be less bothered to commemorate than those closer to the acual happening because so much more has been found out about the deeds of president Kennedy.
Think about it. In three days, a president, a police officer, and a marine were all executed. Who killed the marine? Well, it was a known mobster.
Believe it or not, the case was already wrapped up by the twenty-forth of November two days after the assassination as it was already determined that Lee Harvey Oswald had acted alone shooting the president from the sixth floor of the School Book Despository building.

I always thought the case wasn't 'wrapped up' until the Warren Commission Report was released.

Mister Nifty
April 24th, 2012, 08:08 PM
I always thought the case wasn't 'wrapped up' until the Warren Commission Report was released.

According to David Lifton the author of "Best Evidence," there was a tussle at Parkland Hospital over the president's body after he had passed away. On one side was the state of Texas demanding that a crime had been committed requiring an autopsy. On the other side was the Johnson administration determined to take the body as he had already become the president and in charge immediately after the death of JFK (He didn't need to take an oath).
The Federal government won out in the tussle.
Significance? Well, in a court of law, the case would have been dismissed after it had been determined that the chain of evidence had been broken. In other words, the body was the best evidence so forget about what the seven doctors and one nurse had said at Parkland, which, in an incredibly lit up room, placed the wounds on the president's head in the wrong location. Also forget about what the two unqualified pathologists had later claimed at Bethesda who complained about surgery having been already perform on the president's body before it had arrived and about how, afterwards, the two had discarded their notes taken of the autopsy.
Simply put, the moment the Federal government interfered with the state of Texas by taking the body of the president, the crime escalated from the assassination of president Kennedy to treason committed against the people of the United States.
This action taken by the Federal government didn't leave a puzzle as people think, but a lot of pieces which had yet to be determined. The Dallas (Texas) investigation itself had already been corrupted when the president's body had been taken without an autopsy performed. The next best evidence in the case, the sniper's nest, the number of shots fired, and the physics involved were also at the time insignificant pieces of the puzzle without the body.
After taking the president's body, why did the Federal government perform an autopsy on it? While the president's body was being investigated and while evidence of where the wounds were located on the president's body were being leaked out by the press to the public by way of the Parkland doctors, the president's alleged "killer" was still alive in a Dallas jail!
No way Oswald lives.
This isn't a matter of lone nut theory versus conspiracy theory. It's a matter of the press seeming to know what it was talking about during that time with Walter Cronkite leading the way while, as it was later found out, in truth, the people and the press were at least ten years behind in knowing what the government was really up to (the bay of pigs, for example).
In the end, there was never any Dallas or Texas investigation into the president's death. There was a contention the case against Oswald was air tight, solid, and wrapped up with such determinations never made by the police, but by a court of law.

desertpunk
May 29th, 2012, 03:56 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/RyxipnwgMcI/AAAAAAAAAEM/_1NNtswYNYU/s800/15f.%2BWest%2BOf%2BThe%2BTriple%2BUnderpass,%2BJFK's%2BCar%2BApproaches%2BStemmons%2BFreeway%2BRamp.jpg
http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/


The limousine with the fatally wounded President is seen here just west
of the Triple Underpass, quickly approaching the ramp leading to
Stemmons Freeway.

This fascinating photo, taken by bystander Mel McIntire, shows the
Book Depository in the background. Note the time--"12:30"--being
displayed on the large "Hertz" sign atop the Depository.

desertpunk
March 28th, 2013, 11:26 AM
Love Field that morning:

http://carlanthonyonlinedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/smilingly-welcoming-mrs-kennedy-to-dallas-at-love-field1.jpg?w=900
http://carlanthonyonline.com/2012/12/22/a-centennial-gallery-of-lady-bird-johnson-her-first-ladies-sorority/

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/0/0a/Photo_jfkl-01_0060-C420-20-63.jpg
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Photos_-_JFK_Library_-_Arrival_at_Love_Field_-_p1

http://www.jfklibrary.org/~/media/assets/Audiovisual/Still%20Photographs/C%20-%20Cecil%20Stoughton%20-%20Office%20of%20the%20Military%20Aide/ST-C420-13-63.jpg
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/MeleWlXxvkCyqBLfIr_clw.aspx

http://24.media.tumblr.com/2m8BXUfrigma8tmj0exAT4rbo1_500.jpg
http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/61071260/love-field-dallas-november-22nd-1963