Heh...im relatively new to to Skyscrapercity so dont know much about the Vietnamese members here.

Im curious why there isnt a forum for Vietnam. I really enjoy Skycrapercity i hope there is one soon for Vietnam. How do we create one? Are there requirements for it?

I wonder if there are a lot of Vietnamese members in Skyscrapercity, so let do some inventory. :okay:

Members:
Versalvin

I guess because there aren't many vietnamese members in this forum

I think there are 3 or 4 Viet members that I know of are using this forum (including me). A forum for Vietnam is quick becoming overdue.

I think u need at least 20 members to open a subforum.

LoveSaigon, Vinaboyz, Titanic98

ah that's crap. None of my Viet friends or fellow forumers are Lac Viet are interested in skyscrapers.

So heh where are you guys living now? LoveSaigon? Vinaboyz? Titanic98? AsIaBoYz?

Im currently reside in New York City.

Im studying in Melbourne now, orignally from Macau

I live in Saigon off and on, but I'm European.

I grew up in Sydney, Australia but originally from Saigon

I live in Dresden, Germany but my parents comes from Hanoi (by the way the best city in vn).
Every year I visit Vietnam and it gets more excited, because Hanoi is changing so fast.
Last summer we made a trip throught Vietnam and I could learn new experience about the culture and people. Before the journay I believed that the rest of Vietnam except of Hanoi and HCMC were very poor and ugly, but that wasn´t so. No, the beautiful landscape and other cities have change my opinion.

I support a forum for Vietnam.

My uncle works in Saigon in the saigon trade center, I was going to visit him this year but he is being relocatd to Hong Kong so I am going there insted.

I support for a Vietnamese forum! It would be interesting.

me too, I support a vietnamese forum. Seem like this country is developing, I would like to see more of it. Seeing different culture, architect, and landscape would be cool.

Add me to the list. BTW, I'm living in the USA :)

I support the vietnamese forum. I would like to learn more from Vietnam

Me too....I support a Vietnamese forum so I can see how the nation is progressing.

Hic hic, so may be I'm the only one now living in Vietnam, namely in Saigon.
I have many pictures of Vietnam that are very interesting. But this month, I have to take a lot of semester exams.
So when I finish, I will upload them. OK?

I also support for a Vietnamese forum to show our country.

how many Vietnamese members do we have anyway?

just wanna get a feel of the numbers

I think it may be about time too, but we need to gather some data :)

Hehe....one more addition to the Southeast Asian family? ;)

Kinda wondering..raffie, do you want to reorganise our local forums into three parts...East Asia, Southeast Asia and South Asia?

hopefully Jan agrees to the Vietnam forum, if we can present sufficient reasons for it :yes:

about the reorganisation, I dont have any strong views on this, its perhaps better to create a thread asking for the other mods views first ^^

Hm...alrighty!

Meanwhile, it will help if more of these "hidden Vietnamese" actually indicate vietnam in their user profiles. It will be much easier to get a feel of their numbers this way!

Hehe....one more addition to the Southeast Asian family? ;)

Kinda wondering..raffie, do you want to reorganise our local forums into three parts...East Asia, Southeast Asia and South Asia?

^ ooh first time i've heard of this one. i'm all up for it. :yes:

Well..its getting possible now that we are becoming increasingly fragmented by region! :D

I know that there has been a LONG STANDING request for a Vietnam forum for quite a while now. Plenty of threads showing development in that country have been opened. :okay:

I also think that Laos and Cambodia, unknown as they may be to most of us, :( will eventually deserve their place here.

In other words, I fully support the opening of a Vietnam forum. :angel1:

nah I don't think that the best ideas huaiwei, cuz then people will start to realize and think that East Asia is more developing than SE asia, and that South Asia is the least developed or the most developed in the region. That like separates Asia in category. I known this sound dumb but people always think like that :), if not we would already leave in harmony of peace. It just a common suggestion okie guys, don't take it so seriously :).

Would people do that? Thats odd...

The only reason why I am suggesting it is because at least the list dosent look so long! :D

I don't think it would have any consequences like that. Don't take it more than that. It's just a separation due to the increasing number of sub-forums in the ASF. And if you look at the numbers, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and the Philippines at the moment, if all put into a South-East Asian section would constitute the 6th largest section.

Then again, that would be the exact reason to not go on with the split. Gonna make East and South Asia worse than Germany. :D

Or you can lump Vietnam together with Laos and Cambodia into an Indochina Forum....ultimately it's somebody's decision but that's just my suggestion. :)

Hey....I wasent exactly saying we should split the Asian forum up into 3 forums! :D Its just a change in the way the regional forums are displayed on our main Asian page. ;)

i support a Vietnamforum, :)

Hey....I wasent exactly saying we should split the Asian forum up into 3 forums! :D Its just a change in the way the regional forums are displayed on our main Asian page. ;)

whatever you say :D

organisation of some kind would be good. :)

Would people do that? Thats odd...

hihihihi, believe me some people are weird man

hopefully Jan agrees to the Vietnam forum, if we can present sufficient reasons for it :yes:





[QUOTE=kiretoce]Or you can lump Vietnam together with Laos and Cambodia into an Indochina Forum....ultimately it's somebody's decision but that's just my suggestion.


Heh so who's Jan?

Is there a required minimum amount of membes to create a forum for Vietnam?

For the idea of creating an Indochina Forum...dont like it a bit. I dont want to get into a political debates as well as raising issues about past colonialism.....but the name does has a negative connotation to colonialism.


Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam; each has a different culture and historical background. I would prefer each contry has its own forum rather than collectively put all into one forum as if it's one 'Region' but not as distinct parts of Asia.

^ Jan's the admin. Important name to remember;)

The Singapore forum started with 2 active members.......

very very active ones i must mention;)

what exactly is the requirement for a forum? is it like written on a thread or something?

I fully support to open the Vietnam forum !! :)

Or you can lump Vietnam together with Laos and Cambodia into an Indochina Forum....ultimately it's somebody's decision but that's just my suggestion. :)

The term "Indochina" itself is very offensive to Vietnamese.

Sorry, wantuhoa! :(

Please be aware that people from elsewhere who, like you, very much wish for a Vietnamese forum are not necessarily aware of that fact and mean no ill by using the term. :angel1:

I don't care how the admin group the forum together becxause the decision is entirely depended upon you. However, I really don't like the word Indochina too, that word sound too ancient like back then, back to the time of dominating.

I just joined and I support a forum for Vietnam also. I am of vietnamese descent but was born and raised in Orange County, CA, home of "Little Saigon". I plan on visiting vietnam for the first time this summer. Do any of you guys/girls who live in vietnam have AIM? I would like to get some more information about Vietnam in general.

Yeah! I do support Vietnamese forum here. Your country is marvelous. I have tried Vietnamese cuisine... its good. Great people... very down-to-earth & hardworking. Go Vietnam!

KnightRiderBMW, what AIM means? I dont understand. I'm living in Saigon now.

that AIM = aol instant messenger same like yahoo messenger

i support a Vietnamese Forum! Simply because its rapidly changing. It would be nice to be kept up to date with such a blossoming country :D

me ! khicantoiseyeu new members (Vietnamese) need to Vietnamese Forum ! '' Tự hào là người Việtnam! <=== vietnamese :)

P/s:Welcome everybody to HVA Group home site: http://hvaonline.net/[Network Security/Hacking] (counsel !ought be using browser Firefox)

me ! khicantoiseyeu new members (Vietnamese) need to Vietnamese Forum ! '' Tự hào là người Việtnam ,Vietnam go on !' <=== vietnamese :)


Hah....great to have another enthusiastic member.....

Count me in as a supporter.. a country which I suppose is in the beginning of a skyscraper boom and has such a large population should have a forum.

I was wondering why we didn't have a Vietnamese subforum. Let's make one!

As far as i know we need a lot more members, not sure exactly how many do we need...but currently i dont think we have enough.

I was wondering why we didn't have a Vietnamese subforum. Let's make one!

Actually, by the way this thread is going, it's almost like a subforum for Vietnam itself (sans the skyscraper talk)! With a number of people expressing their wishes for such, surely the powers-that-be will take note of it. Keep the faith and think positive! It'll happen one day soon! :colgate:

Vietnam is one of the fastest growing country in the world but hasn´t a froum, yet?

So whats the official number of Vietnamese forumer in SSC?

30, hahaha I don't known but I see a lot of post about vietnam construction works

So whats the official number of Vietnamese forumer in SSC?
many ! :)

Hi "xo'm" ....let me introduce myself.

I'm living in Saigon,i'm high skooler,glad to know all the ppl here....enchante'
And i'm totally up for a Viet subforum.... :)

many ! :)


Heh why dont we make a list to see exactly how many people are in here...lets me start first....people can go back to this post and add their names..

Vietnamese Members:

versalvin

Vietnamese Members:

versalvin

saigon_monsooner

do asl required? :)

Huh...two?

don´t forget me ;).

tq
versalvin
saigon_monsooner

c´mon the other!

khanhnhat
tq
versalvin
saigon_monsooner

hello everyone, i've been living in Hanoi for 4 years (1998-2002), so i was 12 when i arrived there. I'm half french, a quater danish and a quater suiss. My dad used to work there as a supply officer for UNICEF.
Since 2002, i wen to Vietnam as often as i could, i just love this country so much... so if a vietnamese "official" forum opens, could you get me in...?
It seems that Vietnam is quiet a major subject here in skyscrapercity.com, so it would be just normal to have a forum in the name of Vn...

.............HoChiMinh vo dich.................

Now to create a forum for Vietnamese !

Although I'm not Vietnamese, I'd also like to see a Vietnamese forum :)

I wonder how we can do it,and when?

now we have: (+ppl who supports)

tq
versalvin
saigon_monsooner
lovesaigon
Saigonese
KhanhNhat
khicantoiseyeu
skynet126
Vinaboyz (banned?)
titanic98
Jaroslaw1
Jo
Pelerin_au_tonkin
drwho
AsiaBoyz(i guess?)
wantuhoa (maybe?)

C'est bien!
Cry out loud plz if i miss someone!
Well Viet bros,time 2 get united :p :speech: :p

Please please let's make a Vietnam forum,Indochina forum,Rest of SEA forum or whatever,i feel enough to post in Urban Fabric.

Or maybe we don't have enough skyscrapers?
I have exams in da next 2 weeks,so i'm staying away from da forum awhile,goodbye! hope to see positive progresses....

Don't forget me, saigon_monsooner. :)

I'm not Vietnamese but I support a Vietnamese forum.

I wonder how we can do it,and when?

well Vietnam-forumers have been the most active posters in "Projects and Construction" and Urban Disc ,also have a bigger userbase now.

so i guess now it is the time:)

Yeah Vietnam is growing so fast and the construction industry is picking up speed so I think it's only right that we have our own forum.

We should do something about this.

do we have anyone here from central asia?

Please put your name and argument below as to why you want to have a Vietnam Forum.

Cheers


Saigonese - There are enough Vietnam-enthusiasts here to keep the Vietnamese forum rolling with topics and discussion.

I think it's too premature to have a forum for Vietnam since Vietnam currently doesn't have at least one or two 30-plus storey building getting built each week or day like other countries so if a forum is created for Vietnam I don't know what the topics of discussion are going to be about.

Furthermore, it seems like there is no member currently living at Saigon who can take actual photographs of the construction on a regular basis to keep members update on the status of the projects.

I think it's too premature to have a forum for Vietnam since Vietnam currently doesn't have at least one or two 30-plus storey building getting built each week or day like other countries so if a forum is created for Vietnam I don't know what the topics of discussion are going to be about.

Furthermore, it seems like there is no member currently living at Saigon who can take actual photographs of the construction on a regular basis to keep members update on the status of the projects.


argree on that point.....most of the vietnamese members i think are either in the US or in Europe

i'm currently living in Saigon.

I'm living in Saigon....tomorrow i'll bring my camera and examine some projects....

I don't think we need that many people in Vietnam in order to create a Vietnam forum. What's more important is participation in discussions.

Why don't "propagand" this site to anyone who interests....in ur community....there're not many Viets here coz' they dunno this site,thought.

Like Saigonese,i dont think we need hav many ppl here....just look @ Belgique forum,just about 5 or 6 active members,and i'm sure there's not many 30 storeys buildings get built each week in Belgium....plus,Viets memberz are increasing now :)

hey, y'all...i'm a newbie here in dah club!!==> so i guess a self-introduction would be appropriately necessary *lol* I'M 16, M and of course and t'is 4 sure, I'M A SAIGONESE....or more common....VIETNAMESE! hehehe! so COUNT ME IN if we create a viet's forum!! i'll support a subforum for hcmc,vietnam with all of my heart and soul!! (maybe not all but yeah..STILL........i just exaggerate to make it sounds more interestin') hehehehe!! for dah matter of fact, HCMC in peculiar and Vietnam in general are both GROWING FAST AND STRONG EACH AND EVERYDAY.....and for that reason, we vietnamese NEED to create a forum to inform the rest of the world out there that Vietnam is a unique and exotic country not a devastating war!!! so I'M ALL FOR IT , y'all! it's time for me to migrate now!! peace out!! ciao!!
P/S: by dah way, i really enjoy all dah posts about CONSTRUCTIONS and other stuffs in HCMC, and Vietnam!!

I love pho. :cheers:

Aloha !!!!

I'm a 17 year old originally from Hanoi, Vietnam. I'm currently studying in Ottawa, Canada. Like all of my Vietnamese bros have said, i fully support a Vietnam forum since our country is developing rapidly everyday :)

I'm new here but i think i will be able to contribute more to the forum since i'm going back to Vietnam this summer.

I live in Saigon and do construction updates! I think actually Vietnam has more people "on the ground" and up with it than China...

If there is a forum for Taiwan there should be one for Vietnam. Vietnam will certainly get more members and posts.

Having said _that_, I am also against. I think there are too many forums as it is. There should be just 10: five for pics for each continent, and five for construction...

I think actually Vietnam has more people "on the ground" and up with it than China...
What does that mean?

it means there are more vietamnese forumers.

i think we should have a forum for vietnam.

There are more Vietnamese forumers than Chinese forumers!? That's hard to believe... but OK, whatever :)

I've always supported a forum for Vietnam anyway...

I think we will be having a Vietnam forum soon :)

That's great news....hope it materializes sooner rather than later. :okay:

Hi guys, the new forum is here! :banana:

Congratulations to the booming country !! :okay:

Thank you Jay and others for making this happen.

Yay I'm so happy. Thank you to the people who created this forum and those who strived for it. Cheers

Congratulations !!

Yeah, I want to thanx all the people who making this happen, too.

Wooo...congrats! I know how it feels like! :D

What I cant believe it???Vietnam forum !!! :nocrook: :banana: :carrot: :cucumber: :pepper: :banana2: :lock: :nocrook:
Thanks thanks everyone to help making it!

I can't describe my feelings lol,i'm kinda down to earth person now,everything i can say is: let prove now that Vietnam worths it.

Congratulations! :cheers1:

Congratulations vietnamese!!


:cheers2:

I just came in a week or two and we got a Vietnam forum, I think I'm the good luck charm hehe
okie just kidding no need to attack me
I'm amazed just after a night waking up Vietnam has a forum.

WOW YEAH....WE FINALLY HAVE A FORUM......CHEERS EVERYONE

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

:nocrook:

THANKS.......

Congratulations guys. This is great news :okay:

So the new SE asian countries finally got a sub-forum huh, I am really happy for you guys, hopefully we can see more nice architecture from the growing asian dragon countries like china and SE asia. Keep us updated regularly okie guys

YEAY!!! VIETNAM INDEED ROCKS THE WORLD HARDY!! hehehehe!!! la la la la la la la la!! congrats! cheer with luv!!

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW FORUM!!!!!!!!

:dance2:

Hura :omg: yaaaheee
So at last, a subforum for Vietnam had been created.
Thanks a lot. Thanks.

whoohoo! Congrats to you all Vietnam-forumers!! :) :okay:

O how wonderful! :) It finally happened! :banana:

Congratulations, you've got your own forum! :applause:

I've supported you in your request and shall pay regular visits. Enjoy! :wave:

Wow, the Vietnam Forum, Congrats!

congrats Vietnam! finally...

Congratulations !!

CONGRATULATIONS VIETNAM!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Congrats!!

Congratulations :)

hey hey !! i'm living in Ca. !! Interested in Skyscrapers !!! It is very nice to see a vietnamese forum here...say hi to your all !!

here is my contribute !!!
My sweden friend one said: I like this Sky ----cccc---crapper !!!

Hello guys !
I am another guy from VN. Nice to meet you guys here.

MABUHAY from the Philippines.

Congratulations to Vietnam. More power, more thread, more post and more photos of vietnam.

oh... congrats to the viet group for having their own forum!... :D

whatta bout Skybar?

so many FILIPINOS in vietnam forum. Nandito ba tayo para sakupin sila? Di naman tayo mga Vietnoy? Anyways, I hope many vietnamese will be aware of this Viet Nam Forum and I also hope that Vietnam forumers will also increase.

so many FILIPINOS in vietnam forum. Nandito ba tayo para sakupin sila? Di naman tayo mga Vietnoy? Anyways, I hope many vietnamese will be aware of this Viet Nam Forum and I also hope that Vietnam forumers will also increase.



Really? im not aware of this myself. Who are you refering to?

Really? im not aware of this myself. Who are you refering to?

i'm refering to myself and my other co-forumers in Philippines forum who also here in Vietnam forum. Whats the total count of the Vietnamese SSC forumers now? Hope it will increase soon. Congratulations.

Yes..it is totally titillating that Vietnam has its own forum...I am a fan and like to hang out here. A question, which I posted in another Vietnam thread...I would like to make a trip to Vietnam and am wondering if any body knows about visa/entry requirements for 1)a US citizen and 2)a chinese citizen...anything you can tell me helps. Thanks.

Really? im not aware of this myself. Who are you refering to?

yes. there are several filipinos extending congratulations on your new forum.

Long-live Vietnam! Long-live Southeast Asia! Cheers!

@XiaoBai I think i'd sent to you one link in the other thread.Has it worked? :)

This is great.

I just love Vietnam.

@XiaoBai I think i'd sent to you one link in the other thread.Has it worked? :)

Yeah got it. Thanks

so nice to see this Vietnam forum...more power!!

Celebrating one month since the Vietnam forum has been founded!!!!

Too bad,Viet forumers have no chance for "an khao"...just ask y'all a favor,let's contribute! hahah

:runaway:

i didnt realized it had bêen ONE MONTH :)

wat's an khao?

OK,ăn khao-Bắc kỳ term :)

Hay là slang bây giờ hay xài: đi rửa forum mới :)

Haha...still dont get it :tongue3:

"đi rủa forum mới" ...man never heard of this slang..this is wat they used now in VN? wat is that mean anyway.

"Wash the new forum" means hang out to celebrating it :)

Congrats fellas!

Don't forget to visit the Scandinavian & Baltics forums! :D

Welcome back staff,we miss you a lot! :)

Welcome Staff...would definately visist Scandinavian & Baltics forums sometimes.

HORRAY :banana: ...i just noted that this will be the 2000th response in Vietnam Forum

yeah, viet forum is fast rising. keep it up!

duh...only 4 new posts for today...sometimes it seems like the forum is dead for several days in a month...very strange...

Just wonder where are versalvin and bang these days...gone see Khai?

Is great to see that the Vietnam forum becomes true! Keep it growing!

lol, cool.. i didn't know there's a forum for vietnamese

Just wonder where are versalvin and bang these days...gone see Khai?

when my Pc broke down , you guys talked like crazy, and posting pictures mad..........but when I got my Pc back, everyone dissapears.......what did I do? hehehe

Versalvin must be back to his house in Boston or working summer eh?
if you're still in New York, how is the new trade center comming along?

who is Khai? is he a monster? :)

One question:

what does "do-má" mean in vietnamese?

One question:

what does "do-má" mean in vietnamese?

"motherfucker"

I believe "du" is "fuck"

and "ma" is "mother"

"motherfucker"

I believe "du" is "fuck"

and "ma" is "mother"

Thanks for the information.

(I asked because there's a vietnamese guy in my class that always says that to the teacher, and nobody knows what it means)

hey, y'all...i'm a newbie here in dah club!!==> so i guess a self-introduction would be appropriately necessary *lol* I'M 16, M and of course and t'is 4 sure, I'M A SAIGONESE....or more common....VIETNAMESE! hehehe! so COUNT ME IN if we create a viet's forum!! i'll support a subforum for hcmc,vietnam with all of my heart and soul!! (maybe not all but yeah..STILL........i just exaggerate to make it sounds more interestin') hehehehe!! for dah matter of fact, HCMC in peculiar and Vietnam in general are both GROWING FAST AND STRONG EACH AND EVERYDAY.....and for that reason, we vietnamese NEED to create a forum to inform the rest of the world out there that Vietnam is a unique and exotic country not a devastating war!!! so I'M ALL FOR IT , y'all! it's time for me to migrate now!! peace out!! ciao!!
P/S: by dah way, i really enjoy all dah posts about CONSTRUCTIONS and other stuffs in HCMC, and Vietnam!!

"I'm 16" and "hcmc" is enough for me to stay away from you forever Prox hehehe........love ya with all my heart and soul but ewwwwwwww hehehe

The following was posted by Prox:

oh em gee!!! i just....skimmed thru t'is so-called controversial thread ..and oh my my...everything has gone *WILD* since my last entry....! *outraged*....WUT DAH POOP IS WRONG WITH THAT B.A.N.G dude??? omg!! hes like the LAMEST living human being i've evah known .....!!! unbelievable!!!! it's darn annoying 'cuz u keep on babblin' bout ur negative thoughts and attitudes towards ...absolutely...everything about Vietnam!!!! look....if u feel like turnin ur back against dah country .....for cryin out loud....at least keep it to URSELF..........omg!!! it seems like u wanna let dah whole wide world know wut ur been up to!!!! ***gasp in rage***!!! and dah most important thing........NO ONE C.A.R.E.S about those oversea two-faced losahs.....omg!!!! ( o wel.....probably..onlie U....since u'r so * OBSESSED* w/ escapin' a commie state and fled away to wutevah land..... as u referred in dah past..... *giggling* ....R.I.D.I.C.U.L.O.U.S) WUT IS DAH POINT!!???? so obnoxious!!! it's just wrong!! i *LIVE* hur in dah city ....and i never seen anythin happen like u said in most of ur posts!!! o wel....SOME.....but not all!!!! and it's very common nowadays...not necessarily in every country but...STILL!!!!!! gawwwddd!! get a freakin' L.I.F.E.!!!................ L !!!!!!!

Out of fairness----Let me break it down.

1st. "for cryin out loud....at least keep it to URSELF." Why can't you keep this dislike of Bang to yourself. You asked people to do things that you can't or wouldn't even do it yourself. I guess you will never be a leader, but if you do become a leader through bribery, you will not be good leader.

2nd. "!!!! ***gasp in rage***!!!" You need to control your anger and emotions. In other word, you need to travel overseas to take Anger Management 101 course.

3rd. "NO ONE C.A.R.E.S about those oversea two-faced losahs" Well this part i can understand why you wrote what you thought was right based from "a" textbook you have had read in high school. I believe you can use more books of The VN Civil War from overseas sources, rather than the short two chapters of your high school textbook. The Republic of Vietnam and America lost because of the American media. I suggest a good start is to read Chomsky's Media Propaganda. Ignorant is human but to recognize it is a smart man.

4th. "WUT IS DAH POINT!!???? so obnoxious!!! it's just wrong!! i *LIVE* hur in dah city" In my opinion, you'll need to get out more (hint: rural/country side) because you are well off in the city. I believe Vietnam is fast improving but not yet a market economy. Aside from the increase GDP and higher living standard in the cities, human rights is where it was 30 years ago. Google this: VN government harasses ethnic minorities in the Highland, children and women in VN smuggle across the border, Bride-to-be-ship to abusive and ++++ed up Taiwanese. When Overseas VNmese in Taiwan tries to help these women, Commie VN tries to stop them.

5th. "STILL!!!!!! gawwwddd!! get a freakin' L.I.F.E.!!!................ L !!!!!!!" Again, try to control yourself. Are you telling him to get a life because he is on the internet to read your puberty complication mixed emotions insults, then we all will have to too won't we.

6th. "and i never seen anythin happen like u said in most of ur posts!!! o wel....SOME.....but not all!!!!" Well make up your mind kid. Is it never or some? or maybe all?

This is a forum for those who enjoy seeing Vietnam's growth. If you don't want to hear how well VN is doing, just get out and find another forum that fit your taste.

Thanks!

ok i think we can stop this before this thread will get closed too...there's nothing wrong with Bang's opinions...we should judge an issue critically by viewing both the good and bad sidess..not just always praising an achievement without consider other related issues...



**there are a lot of people here tat actually contributed and created this forum in the first place for these purposes..so we dont need to act like that heh?

hehe two3toes, if they're crazy let them be.

but it's true what Prox said "those oversea two-faced losahs" ....i mean .........trời lạnh chết mẹ luôn, người ta trùm mền ngủ ....gia đình ta không thèm ngủ .....mà lúc nào cũng rủ rê ta đi biểu tình mỗi khi việt cộng qua đây...... cuộc đời chi mà đau khổ như thế này hehehe.

like the bible said if someone slap ya on the right, give them the left (and encourage them to finish the slapping process) still love ya Prox :)

Celebrating 6 months since Vietnam forum opened up!

I won't talk much about it, let urself rewinding those memories...
...we had only 3,4 ppl at first, and now:

Current active members:

another_viet
Baria
Pho-sure
vietboi
lovesaigon
KnightRiderBMW
Jaroslaw1
titanic98
bang
versalvin
LacHong
saigon_monsooner
tq
eddie105Z
two3toes
wantuhoa
Pelerin au Tonkin
proX
Tran
fatcat
shike
chinatown
ti3usifu
khicantoiseyeu
violentstorm_vietnam
danangboy
Saigon_Skyline
sqd
.......................
AsiaBoyz Pangu staff was here in the beginning.....

Members who've been BANNED
Vinaboyz
Lemongrass
Rambo
Saigonese
LacLongQuan

My sympathic are with them


And here we got members whose status is unknown :)
They haven't turned up a long time, maybe they just choose to sit
outside and watch, hope someday they'll join again!
And some 1-post-only members too! They have successfully proved that
there're a heap of Viets everywhere :)

VTran
wegotjam
hotheart
skynet126
phamAnhh
vietap
#tudo
Manh Tien
SyKe
VietnamLover
saigonforever
Skyscrapermaniac
i2avy
dao7
AsianArt
Sunkeeper
KhanhNhat
hiensmile
pepsis
AnTViet
VIET
kojima eater

Hi everyone! :wave:

I'm sorry I've not been around the Vietnam forum very much. :(

But I did support your request to get one, and it was successful! :okay: I promise to mend my ways and check in every once in a while. :)

^ You are always welcomed here, thanks for the great support :)

Thank you, saigon monsooner! :)

You are very kind, and I surely appreciate it. :okay:

i post too wat u ta;ling about i love vietnam

Now what are you talking about :D

J/k :)

wat up people...how's it going?

man finally school is over...vacationing time for me :)

Hi everybody. I am a new member of VietNam forum. :)

hey anybody know a sofware thast u could design skyscraper??? give me a name ok thank you hey y dont u post it in dananag thread for thank you

I think u can find a lot of useful tools here

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=307

aite thank man i check it out

hey guys,
I think its the right time now to divide our Forum....please post your suggestions.

firstley:

Projects and Construction

Citytalk and Gallery

Vietnam Today
(Sky Bazaar)

...???

do we have a lot of threads for skybar category though?

hi! everybody
I'd like to make friends all.

My suggestion:

Projects and Construction
Ca phe^ Skybar

Should never worry about the quantity of threads, every Skybar gets filled up very quickly with daily stuffs. :)

Guys,

check out those blogs:

www.stickyrice.com
www.noddlepie.com
...

Cool eh, does any of you write blog?

sorry...check

hey guys,
I think its the right time now to divide our Forum....please post your suggestions.

firstley:

Projects and Construction

Citytalk and Gallery

Vietnam Today
(Sky Bazaar)

...???

totally agree :)

Vietnam currently doesn't have at least one or two 30-plus storey building getting built each week or day like other countries.

Ooh :nono:
What is it so much for?
It's much better if they there would destroy such ugly Soviet-style buildings at such speed. :fiddle:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/514875635IdPygB_ph.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/3530380-L.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/87260088_6ce055bfae_o.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/79310522_f37bc87e72_b.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/48115173-L.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/47511004-L.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/tranvietchau/281641008ZNtaRX_ph.jpg

Grats! u've picked up all the best trash. I think they call pic 1,6 "socialistic realism" or something, the rest r just dilapidated housing projects...which will be cleaned out soon with this rate of construction.

Grats!
There's actually nothing to congratulate for.

Well, for showing us the (very) ugly side of some big cities....

Btw, are you a student in Russia?

Btw, are you a student in Russia?
uh huh :wave:

:hi: I'm new. I'm from Bien Hoa but now I'm studying at Nang Khieu High School in HCM City. I'd like to be an architect . I also want to make friend with all of you. :cheers1:

Welcome to the forum, Flygon. You've got a lot of friends here.

:hi: I'm new. I'm from Bien Hoa but now I'm studying at Nang Khieu High School in HCM City. I'd like to be an architect . I also want to make friend with all of you. :cheers1:

Warmly Welcome to The forum ;)

May 6th, 2006: Vietnam Forum 1st Anniversary
:dance:

We're looking forward to that day.

so do I get any present?

wow it's a year already heh

Am I being retarded or sumthing...but where's that military thread gone?

http://www.ttvnol.com/uploaded/binhnhat/vn3.jpg

::?:

Celebrating 6 months since Vietnam forum opened up!

I won't talk much about it, let urself rewinding those memories...
...we had only 3,4 ppl at first, and now:

Current active members:

another_viet
Baria
Pho-sure
vietboi
lovesaigon
KnightRiderBMW
Jaroslaw1
titanic98
bang
versalvin
LacHong
saigon_monsooner
tq
eddie105Z
two3toes
wantuhoa
Pelerin au Tonkin
proX
Tran
fatcat
shike
chinatown
ti3usifu
khicantoiseyeu
violentstorm_vietnam
danangboy
Saigon_Skyline
sqd
.......................
AsiaBoyz Pangu staff was here in the beginning.....

Members who've been BANNED
Vinaboyz
Lemongrass
Rambo
Saigonese
LacLongQuan

My sympathic are with them


And here we got members whose status is unknown :)
They haven't turned up a long time, maybe they just choose to sit
outside and watch, hope someday they'll join again!
And some 1-post-only members too! They have successfully proved that
there're a heap of Viets everywhere :)

VTran
wegotjam
hotheart
skynet126
phamAnhh
vietap
#tudo
Manh Tien
SyKe
VietnamLover
saigonforever
Skyscrapermaniac
i2avy
dao7
AsianArt
Sunkeeper
KhanhNhat
hiensmile
pepsis
AnTViet
VIET
kojima eater

And new member: hmle

Welcome to our big family. Make yourself comfortable.

when is our turn to have a banner on ssc? :)

^^ already had one

Should be requesting for another one. hahaha

oh, I missed that. What did u guys put on then?

TP HCM: Ngổn ngang nhiều công trình xây dựng

Hàng chục nghìn mét vuông đất nằm ngay tại trung tâm TP HCM nhiều năm nay đã trở thành bãi hoang, không có giá trị. Trong khi đó, giá thuê mỗi mét vuông đất ở thành phố hiện được tính bằng tiền triệu.

Điểm chung của các công trình này là khởi công xây dựng đã gần 10 năm nay mà chưa thể hoàn thành, thậm chí chỉ bắt đầu của phần móng. Chúng hiện hữu là tường rào hoen gỉ bao bọc bên ngoài, những khối bê tông cốt thép nham nhở như những chiếc răng khổng lồ ngoạm vào không gian kiến trúc đô thị. Điển hình là khách sạn Hàng không, Trung tâm Văn hóa Thương mại Sài Gòn (Công viên 23/9), Trung tâm điều hành Dầu khí phía Nam… hay những khu đất trống bỏ hoang thuộc dự án Quảng trường Sài Gòn Hạnh phúc, Cao ốc Công viên trung tâm…

Ngày 17/7/1995, Ủy ban Nhà nước về Hợp tác và Đầu tư - SCCI - (nay là Bộ Kế hoạch và Đầu tư) đã cấp giấy phép số 1318/GP, thành lập Công ty TNHH Fei Yueh - Đất Việt (viết tắt là FYDAVICO). Liên doanh này có tổng vốn đầu tư hơn 468 triệu USD nhằm xây dựng và khai thác kinh doanh một khu phức hợp đa năng tại đường Nguyễn Văn Cừ, quận 1, mang tên Quảng trường Sài Gòn Hạnh phúc (Saigon Happiness Square). Dự án gồm 11 tòa cao ốc từ 13 đến 25 tầng với tổng diện tích xây dựng hơn 52.000 m2. Khi đi vào hoạt động ổn định (dự kiến đầu năm 1998), liên doanh sẽ giải quyết việc làm cho trên 2.100 người.

Đến nay, đã gần 10 năm sau ngày cấp phép, khởi công, dự án vẫn chỉ có trên bản vẽ. Những gì đang có trên phần đất dự án rộng hàng chục nghìn mét vuông tại số 235 đường Nguyễn Văn Cừ, quận 1, là những đám cây tạp mọc um tùm trong không gian "nửa kín nửa hở". Toàn bộ khu đất được bao bọc bằng những tấm tôn màu xanh nhạt, sau một thời gian dài nay đã hoen gỉ. Cổng chính của dự án nay đã trở thành nơi tập kết xà bần, vỉa hè, thành chỗ phóng uế của một số người qua đường. VnExpress đã nhiều lần liên hệ đến số điện thoại ghi trên bảng hiệu của công ty, nhưng chỉ nhận được câu trả lời của điện thoại viên: “Số máy này không có thực”.

Công trình có quy mô đồ sộ là Khách sạn Hàng không, số 15 bis Đinh Tiên Hoàng quận 1. Trên khu đất rộng hàng nghìn mét vuông, những phần thiết kế bằng bê tông của tòa nhà chĩa ra xung quanh như hình nan quạt, cộng thêm màu sắt gỉ loang lổ càng làm cho bộ mặt công trình thêm u ám. Ông Trương Hữu Tuân, cán bộ hưu trí có nhà ở đối diện công trình này phải thốt lên: “Đã từ lâu rồi họ có làm gì đâu, mà hình như họ không biết xót hay sao ấy! 7-8 năm rồi chứ có ít gì nữa”.

Trong những công trình dang dở không thể không nhắc đến Trung tâm Văn hóa Thương Mại Sài Gòn (nay là Công viên 23/9). Mặc dù đã có sự điều chỉnh nhất định sau khi dự án liên doanh trên tan rã, nhưng không thể xử lý được những khối bê tông án ngữ ngay tại khu trung tâm thành phố mà có lần một du khách nước ngoài đã lầm tưởng là pháo đài! Rất may khi khởi công, chủ đầu tư đã không chặt hết số cây trồng trên khu đất của dự án. Mảng xanh lọt ngay giữa lòng thành phố này đã trở thành công viên ngoài ý muốn. Hiện nay, dự án có vốn đầu tư trên 525 triệu USD này đã sửa thành công viên, nhưng phần xây dựng nham nhở còn lại của công trình chưa thể tìm ra cách giải quyết nên vẫn được quây kín, làm bãi giữ xe và ngổn ngang như công trường, tràn ngập rác thải và nước đọng.

http://vnexpress.net//Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2004/11/3B9D7A09//XD-to.jpg
Công trình Khách sạn hàng không.

http://vnexpress.net//Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2004/11/3B9D7A09//XD-to-3.jpg
Một trong những phần còn lại của dự án Trung tâm Thương mại Sài Gòn, nay là Công viên 23/9.

There are too many halted projects :( .Like Ryugyong Hotel in North Korea.

One of the Neverbuilt (from Emporis)

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2001/11/133522.jpg

Windhorst Tower, 180m, 55 storeys, scrapped in 1995.

http://www.prof-deilmann.de/pool_fuer_ausgew_Projekte/windhorst/
It located at 5 Cong truong Me Linh, where Vietcombank Tower (35 floors) will be built. Hope that history won't repeat itself.

Huh, the picture didn't work?
Try again.
http://www.prof-deilmann.de/pool_fuer_ausgew_Projekte/windhorst/w_ansicht2.jpg

this one looks so much like the one in hongkong

too bad it got cancelled.

Aight thanks flygon :)

hello,i'm new member!make friend everybody

http://www.leylandfleetline.com/sitebuilder/images/1st-birthday-cake-274x282.jpg

Happy birthday !

Hip Hip Hooray

any1 here can help me in writing sociology essay (weber,marx,durkheim,parson,...)?im suck at it !! final exam's drawin near... :(

oh I'm so excited about this 1 year anniversary thing which I didn't remember
thought it will be a lot of pictures
and nothing.....

maybe 2nd anniversary eh?

I support a Vietnam Forum too. Please let me know how to joint you all...:) I am also Vietnamese living in California. I would love to see lots of pictures from Vietnam, especially highrise buildings and bridges.

Maybe someone can create a banner for the 2nd anniversary. :D

i think this forum needs to be reorganized.

I am having a tendency of opening a special title " Let everybody see your face"
Everyday everytime we argue , discuss but can't see our face each other I relly want to see your face hi hi

But I am very ugly :gaah:

I'm too---> bac nao cam thay minh de dzai nhu Chau Du Dan thi dai dien post len truoc nha

http://echop4.googlepages.com/Haidacsac.html

I'm viet kieu from scandinavia and intend to buy a condo in Saigon. Saigon Pearl is in my eyeballs. Ordinary vn salaries can't afford the boom in skyscrapers. Foreigners must support vn and their real estate sector by buying the apartments. Otherwise the entrepreneur will go bankrupt.

viviv:
There's some filthy rich Vietnamese these days. I think real estate entreprenuer already did some research before building up these appartments. So don't worry!!!
Anyway, how can we have a sub forum for Vietnam. It would be great for ppl from around the world has a different view ab Vietnam, and how it's progressing drastically.

I'm viet kieu from scandinavia and intend to buy a condo in Saigon. Saigon Pearl is in my eyeballs. Ordinary vn salaries can't afford the boom in skyscrapers. Foreigners must support vn and their real estate sector by buying the apartments. Otherwise the entrepreneur will go bankrupt.

I thought Saigon Pearl project was already cancelled? If not, can someone post pictures here?

Thx.

Who says it's cancelled? :bash:
@viviv: ordinary Vn salaries can't afford, but their income could :)

Saigon pearl has just finished the foundation of Ruby or Chopez Tower I'm not sure I just read it on newspaper recently but I'm sure that one of the foundations of this project has been finished

I heard there're some problems with the Saigon Pearl foundation....but now that gave me a relief

I miss Saigon, people, I miss all those shops and shops and streets and markets with people and motorbikes, all the activities and nightlife, you feel that the city is much bigger than it really is, like in the States you drive through a cityblock-long building and that's it. And the sprawls r terrible. There in Saigon I feel people around. And food is everywhere...what a shame I didn't take many pictures when I was back there :( Sorry for spamming............. but I'm really missing it so much. :runaway:

Xin lỗi mình lạc đề một chút :)

Mình có đôi lời muốn nói với các bạn biết tiếng Việt trong box này ;)

Mình biết mỗi người có một quan điểm riêng :) Mình tôn trọng suy nghĩ của mỗi người các bạn. Và khách quan mà nói, tất cả chúng ta đều hướng về dân tộc, về đất nước Việt Nam ;) Cho dù những mâu thuẫn, những định kiến về vấn đề CT, KT, XH không phải là nhỏ, nhưng các bạn có thể để chúng sang một bên, tập trung vào chủ đề chính của cả 4rum này được chứ :) Mục tiêu của chúng ta trước hết là phát triển box VN này lên có đúng không ạ? Nhưng hãy xem: người ngoài nhìn vào box VN bọn mình mà thấy ngán quá, như vậy thì đến bao giờ box VN mới có thể có mod riêng, có sub-box như của mấy ông Thái Lan, Mã Lai,... (nói chung là tất cả) Tớ thực sự ngượng thay khi box VN là box kém nhất mà các bạn thảo luận (hay chửi nhau nhỉ ? ) lại hăng nhất.

Xin hãy gác lại, tập trung vào chủ đề một chút nhé :) Mình biết skyscraper là sở thích của các bạn tham gia 4rum này, đừng biến nó thành 4rum chính trị, cãi nhau um cả lên. Mà "Giận quá mất khôn", các bạn cứ văng tục ầm ầm. Tuy mình vẫn biết các bạn là những người có Văn Hóa, có trình độ cao, nhưng như thế là không có được :)

Thân

Yeah I totally agree with u hoangduong

Yes, I'm for it. You put it very well, Hoangduong. :cheers:

exactly!.......ta cũng đã nói nhiều lần rồi, forum building mà chẳng thấy ai nói building nhiều, nhưng khi nói về chính trị thì anh hùng khắp phương hội về đông đủ, từ em bé 15 cho tới em bé 105

có những anh hùng biến mất lâu thiệt là lâu mà ta đã ngỡ lớn rồi nên không thích lên đây nữa, nhưng khi ta nói về chính trị thì chao ôi bạn hiền năm xưa vẫn còn đây mà ta cữ ngỡ mình cô đơn.

đúng là nói vể building và kiến trúc thì mình xa người ta mặc dù mình rất thích, còn chuyện cãi nhau thì hỡi ơi chúng ta giỏi qúa xá ông địa, chúng ta có thể cãi từ dưới đất bay lên trên trời, cãi từ hạ bay sang đông, cãi từ lúc Bac Hồ còn ngồi bô, cho tới lúc bác bay sang Nga Xô

Cãi nhau thần sầu luôn, cãi hết cả tuổi trẻ.....cãi từ thời hùng vương cho tới thời xì dầu gì gì đó.....nhiều lúc ta quan sát, va nhì6u lúc ta cũng cãi, nhưng thiệt sự là muốn bệnh luôn.

không hiểu tại sao vào forums khác thây người ta nói chuyện buildings so passionate, còn forum mình lại nói chuyện về đảng và Bac hồ với hết cả tâm tình.

Chao ôi....
đất nước chúng ta đẹp vô ngần,
anh hùng cách mệnh của chúng ta hằng hà vô số,
chúng ta đã đào biết bao nhiêu cái hố, củ chi.......
cớ sao bây giờ chúng ta không mỗi người một chuyện,
mà ai cũng muốn làm anh hùng đi đào hố?

thơ Luc bát.......ký tên bang

exactly!.......ta cũng đã nói nhiều lần rồi, forum building mà chẳng thấy ai nói building nhiều, nhưng khi nói về chính trị thì anh hùng khắp phương hội về đông đủ, từ em bé 15 cho tới em bé 105

có những anh hùng biến mất lâu thiệt là lâu mà ta đã ngỡ lớn rồi nên không thích lên đây nữa, nhưng khi ta nói về chính trị thì chao ôi bạn hiền năm xưa vẫn còn đây mà ta cữ ngỡ mình cô đơn.

đúng là nói vể building và kiến trúc thì mình xa người ta mặc dù mình rất thích, còn chuyện cãi nhau thì hỡi ơi chúng ta giỏi qúa xá ông địa, chúng ta có thể cãi từ dưới đất bay lên trên trời, cãi từ hạ bay sang đông, cãi từ lúc Bac Hồ còn ngồi bô, cho tới lúc bác bay sang Nga Xô

Cãi nhau thần sầu luôn, cãi hết cả tuổi trẻ.....cãi từ thời hùng vương cho tới thời xì dầu gì gì đó.....nhiều lúc ta quan sát, va nhì6u lúc ta cũng cãi, nhưng thiệt sự là muốn bệnh luôn.

không hiểu tại sao vào forums khác thây người ta nói chuyện buildings so passionate, còn forum mình lại nói chuyện về đảng và Bac hồ với hết cả tâm tình.

Chao ôi....
đất nước chúng ta đẹp vô ngần,
anh hùng cách mệnh của chúng ta hằng hà vô số,
chúng ta đã đào biết bao nhiêu cái hố, củ chi.......
cớ sao bây giờ chúng ta không mỗi người một chuyện,
mà ai cũng muốn làm anh hùng đi đào hố?

thơ Luc bát.......ký tên bang
you know you're guilty than most.

since arguements instigate the most comments, it is naturally that people like to put in words for what the feel about the development of vn in terms of politics-most controversial.

wantuhoa you're not very far from me.....nếu ta là hoa hậu, u là á hậu........á hậu number one

bang,

where did you get that pic of uncle? that's the most hilarious pic ever!

people think i photoshop that pic, but it's a real picture ....go to yahoo or google search and look for hochiminh.

Thanks, Bang Bang! I love ironic humor

Sau khi báo chí đưa tin đào được hàng trăm cây vàng dưới nền nhà ông Phó chủ tịch quận Tân Bình (TP HCM), ông Huỳnh Văn Chính, chủ sở hữu căn nhà, đã lên tiếng xác nhận sự việc là có thật nhưng "không biết ai là chủ sở hữu của số vàng đó".

Rất nhiều người dân cư ngụ khu vực gần căn nhà số 31/2A Kinh Dương Vương (phường 6, quận Bình Tân) xác nhận thông tin trên là sự thật 100%.

Bà C., nhà số 289 Kinh Dương Vương, kế bên căn nhà trên kể, căn nhà 31/2A trên được nhóm thợ khoảng 20 người đến thi công vào khoảng tháng 4. Lúc khoảng 9-10h ngày 5/4, sau khi hoàn tất việc đổ đà kiềng để lên cột, nhóm thợ này đã phát hiện một túi ni-lon đựng những miếng kim loại màu vàng có dạng hình chữ nhật hiệu SJC và nhẫn.

Lúc đầu, nhóm thợ này cứ ngỡ là đào trúng vàng mã nên đã cầm ném nhau chơi. Trong lúc mạnh tay, một số người đã ném những miếng kim loại màu vàng này sang tận nhà bên cạnh và ném ra đường đi.

Trong số thợ có người bắt đầu nghi ngờ, rồi dùng búa đập thử thì thấy những thỏi vàng này không bị vỡ như vàng giả mà móp méo lại.Ngay lập tức hai người trong số này được cử ra gom toàn bộ số vàng bỏ vào cốp xe Vespa mang đi ra tiệm vàng thử. Khoảng 2 tiếng sau những người này không tin vào tai mình khi nghe đồng nghiệp báo lại rằng đó là vàng thật. Khi đó, họ reo ầm lên rằng "của trời cho" làm cả khu vực cũng nhốn nháo.

Một cuộc thương lượng và chia chác chớp nhoáng đã xảy ra giữa nhóm thợ hồ này và ngay ngày hôm đó, toàn bộ nhóm thợ này đều nghỉ việc và qua hôm sau thì mạnh ai nấy khăn gói bắt xe về quê gấp (nhóm thợ này hầu hết đều ở miền Bắc).

Bà L. ngụ cùng địa chỉ trên kể chi tiết, toàn bộ gói vàng này khoảng vài trăm cây, được gói 2 lớp ni-lon, một lớp màu vàng, một lớp màu xanh. Bịch vàng này có chiều ngang và chiều dọc to hơn 1 gang tay.

Thêm một tình tiết khá khôi hài nữa là, trong khi đùa giỡn, các tay thợ hồ ném vàng văng tứ tung, trong đó có một thỏi văng ra ngoài đường, trúng vào một người thu mua ve chai tình cờ đi ngang qua. Người này nhanh chóng nhặt lấy và coi như cũng được chia phần.

Một người thợ hàn làm việc sát vách căn nhà 31/2A trên kể, ngay sau khi nhóm thợ mang vàng đi thử, đích thân anh nhặt 1 trong 2 bịch ni-lon lên xem có còn vàng hay không. Anh này kể tiếp: số vàng này được gói kỹ thành từng cục nhỏ, mỗi cục 10 cây rồi bó lại thành một cục, đựng trong 2 bịch ni-lon kể trên. Số vàng này được đặt dưới một tấm gạch men nhưng có thể trong khi dọn nhà, gia chủ đã quên.

Cũng theo anh thợ hàn này, sau đó đúng một hôm, anh thợ hồ đầu tiên tìm thấy túi vàng đã quay lại hiện trường để thu dọn đồ đạc và "tâm sự" với những người có mặt lúc đó rằng, tổng số vàng đem đi thử là 213 cây và 7 chỉ. Theo ước tính thì số vàng này phải trên 250 cây vì trong khi 2 người mang đi thử thì số vàng mang ra "chọi chơi" đã được các anh thợ còn lại nhanh chóng "thu hồi" và không ít người đã tranh thủ bỏ túi ít nhất cũng vài thỏi vàng.

Theo lời tâm sự của anh thợ hồ trên thì riêng cai thầu (người quản lý những thợ hồ này) được khoảng 10 cây, số thợ còn lại mỗi người được chia khoảng 5-6 cây.

Theo tìm hiểu, căn nhà trên là do ông Huỳnh Minh Chính, Phó chủ tịch UBND quận Bình Tân làm chủ (nằm ngay sau trụ sở TAND huyện Bình Chánh cũ, mặt quay ra hẻm số 31 nhưng mang số mới là 293/1). Ngày 25/7/1992, ông Chính được hợp tác xã mua bán huyện Bình Chánh (cũ) chuyển nhượng lại. Năm 2001, ông Chính xin hợp thức hóa nhà cùng đất ở và được UBND TP HCM cấp giấy chứng nhận. Đến cuối năm 2005, ông Chính được cấp giấy phép xây dựng và toàn bộ căn nhà cũ đã được phá bỏ để xây dựng lại.

Ông Huỳnh Văn Chính trình bày, căn nhà trên (chiều ngang 6,1 m, chiều dài hơn 9 m, tổng diện tích trên 50 m2) ông mua từ năm 1992 với giá 27 triệu đồng, trả tiền nhiều lần và dọn về ở từ năm 1993. Trước đó nữa, chủ cũ của căn nhà là ông Bảy Tiến (chủ garage, nay đã mất). Sau này, khi đường sá được làm lại cao hơn nên căn nhà thường xuyên bị ngập nước. Một phần nhà hư, một phần do chật chội (nhà 4 người chỉ ở 1 phòng) nên ông Chính xin phép xây dựng lại. Vì nhà ông và nhà kế bên sử dụng chung một vách nên cả hai cùng sửa lại cho tiện.

Sau khi có giấy phép, ông Chính đã đập bỏ căn nhà cũ để xây lại thành một trệt, hai lầu, tổng cộng diện tích trên 150 m2, chi phí 380 triệu đồng và đến nay cũng chưa dọn về ở.

Khi xây dựng, ông Chính giao khoán toàn bộ cho Công ty Hoa Đồng, thỉnh thoảng người em vợ của ông qua trông coi công cán, còn ông không xuống nơi xây dựng.

Căn nhà được khởi công xây dựng vào tháng 4, theo thiết kế thì phải ép 6 cọc bê tông nhưng do xe không vào được nên nhà thầu phải mướn 1 máy móc đất nhỏ hơn để đào 6 hố đất. Mỗi hố đất sâu 2 m, vuông vức khoảng 1 m. Và số vàng này được phát hiện ở hố đất cuối cùng.

Ông Chính kể: "Khi máy này móc đất thì căn nhà kế bên cũng đã móc đất lên đổ đà, ép cọc tương tự như vậy. Toàn bộ đất của hai bên móc lên bị đổ văng tứ tung. Hai tuần sau khi móc đất, nhóm công nhân nhà kế bên moi trước thì phát hiện ra vàng lá, nghĩ là vàng giả nên họ xé rồi vứt tùm lum. Vì vậy, tôi cũng không biết vàng nằm trên phần đất nhà bên đó hay nhà tôi. Khoảng 7-8 ngày sau đó, phần đổ vỉ làm móng nhà tôi mới được tiến hành và lúc này các công nhân thi công nhà tôi cũng xé vàng vứt lung tung. Nhưng có một công nhân nghi là vàng thật nên đem đi thử. Khi người ta nói là vàng thiệt thì họ gom lại bỏ vô thau và sau khi ăn trưa xong thì chia nhau rồi bỏ trốn hết". Hiện ngôi nhà này được xây dựng lên thành 3 lầu (tầng).

Khoảng 5 ngày sau khi xảy ra sự việc công nhân bắt được vàng và bỏ trốn, Giám đốc Công ty Hoa Đồng mới biết và tới Ủy ban quận nói với ông Chính: "Công nhân tôi nghỉ mấy ngày nay, nó moi được vàng lá ở chỗ thi công rồi nó chia nhau trốn về hết rồi".

Nghe vậy, ông Chính hỏi công nhân đó ngụ ở đâu thì ông giám đốc này nói: "Tụi nó ở đâu ngoài miền Trung, miền Bắc mới vô. Nó sợ lấy lại vàng nên chạy hết rồi".

Ông Chính về nơi tìm thấy bọc vàng và hỏi hai công nhân đang thi công nhà kế bên thì hai anh này trả lời cũng giống như ông giám đốc vừa kể.

Giám đốc Công ty Hoa Đồng nói rằng tổng cộng có 17 công nhân, mỗi người chia nhau 2-3 miếng vàng. Sau khi tốp thợ này bỏ đi, nhà thầu đã kêu tốp khác đến để thi công tiếp.

Theo ông Chính, cả ông và ông Giám đốc Công ty Hoa Đồng cũng chỉ nghe nói, không biết thật giả như thế nào, không biết số lượng bao nhiêu, rồi người trực tiếp quản lý đám thợ là cai thầu cũng đã bỏ chạy nên ông không biết làm gì.

(Theo Thanh Niên)

the lesson of this story is...everytime ya see something golden and shinny, pick it up and put in your pocket....examine it later....during midnight when everybody sleeps

Hi ppl, as some might know before, I'm now assuming the mod job for our forum, thanks for your nomination and i look forward to ur support :)

This photo I took form old newspaper when I see it in pile of books and newspaper of my family, the issue of it is in 1993

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/pipo_inzaghi/DSC01058.jpg

May bac cho hoi cai du thuyen dang dau o ben do la con tau_khach san 4 sao dau tien cua VN dung ko ???ten no la gi the

Welcome your newest Vietnamese-American member :) Went to Vietnam in June 06' and planning to head back there after my wedding in Dec. I love SGN and Hue. I don't care too much for Bac (Northern VN), hopefully Tan Son Nhat airport new expansion is done by then.

welcoming yourself eh hehe

Moonsoon bây giờ ta mới biết tại sao tên you màu xanh đổi ra đỏ, tưởng là mi muốn hù dọa bà con chứ đâu có ngờ .....ey, ai bầu cho mi vậy? nếu ta biết ta bầu cho titanic, he's here longer than everyone, and his main focus is buildings, he doesn't talk shit like you and ta.......but I support you

since you're a mod now I urge you to clean up this forum....delete all of the unrelated, repetitive and locked threads, including the fighting ones.

keep this forum minimum 5-7 pages...easier to look for important information.
believe me, if you searched on yahoo, all of the old and shitty threads came up like it was yesterday. delete all of the banned members too, so painful to look at them :)

starts a new fresh begining.

last but not least show me how to delete unwanted posts? there's the edit button, but i don't see any delete button.....i know i posted a lot of garbage too, and would like to help clean this place up.

(put my church thread on sticky...... i command you hehe)

moonsoon
you are the bright twinkly star in the dark sky,
you are the colour TV among millions of black and white TV's,
you are the great smell of durian,
you became mod without my permission
but i believe in you because I saw you fly
soar you self voter you

thơ lục bát......ký tên.Ta

This photo I took form old newspaper when I see it in pile of books and newspaper of my family, the issue of it is in 1993

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/pipo_inzaghi/DSC01058.jpg

May bac cho hoi cai du thuyen dang dau o ben do la con tau_khach san 4 sao dau tien cua VN dung ko ???ten no la gi the


Simply "Saigon Floating Hotel." It is now anchoring in Great Barrier Reef, Australia.

@saigon_monsooner: When can we have Subforums for Vietnam?

I've been thinking about reorganizing the forum...but any suggesting layout?

Personally i think bringing on another sub-forum for non-construction related topics is enough, we can name it Tiem ca phe or quan nha la or something :), but go ahead with your ideas so i can tell SSC admins about this.You can either post here or pm me. I think the lobby will not be long .

one Sub-forum for Projects and Construction...one Sub-forum for gallery and discussion....

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please help me to collect all vibrated project and construction pics of VIETNAM! ...we have to share it with the world!!!
----> Vietnam - Project and Construction MegaThread (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=400031)

I've started with The Financial Tower since it is our most beloved project in Vietnam....c'mon guys keep posting there too!!

Show the people how freaking hot VN can also be...:)


----> let me also start a VN Photo Thread soon

we are so freakin hot that we're not hehe

^^ Photo-Thread: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=10113622#post10113622 c'mon...post post post pics of Vietnam!!! ...every corner of Vietnam might be interesting for...

I've been thinking about reorganizing the forum...but any suggesting layout?

Personally i think bringing on another sub-forum for non-construction related topics is enough, we can name it Tiem ca phe or quan nha la or something :), but go ahead with your ideas so i can tell SSC admins about this.You can either post here or pm me. I think the lobby will not be long .

Yeah that's a good idea. Should also have a section for cultural & economic issues-related discussions.

TQ
are you gonna get it for that huge signature hehe

mine is 3 petit lines and they come bitching, your signature is big and fat.....oh no .....hehe

c'mon otherwise no anyone would pay attention to that^^ :scouserd:

http://www.cojoweb.com/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
vn is light years away from so many other countries in term of development. i can barely see any light from vn at all.

it's kinda weird considering it with India..

india is poor in term of gdp per capita (too many people for its money), but its nominal gdp is more than 3.5 trillion, about to pass japan as the third economy power in the world. india's infrastructure has been very much developed through the british colonialism.

india is poor in term of gdp per capita (too many people for its money), but its nominal gdp is more than 3.5 trillion, about to pass japan as the third economy power in the world. india's infrastructure has been very much developed through the british colonialism.

yea but i'm saying vietnam is not that much far behind india in term of development.. in fact the poverty rate in vietnam is very small compare to india (percentage wise not population wise). but anyway, hope the development in vietnam accelerating soon

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6408/vietnamoc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Vietnam is not wealthy yet but obviously beautiful. I am happy with changes have been happening so far though I know there is much more for Vietnam to do before It becomes a power.

http://www2.goldmansachs.com/hkchina/insight/research/pdf/BRICs_3_12-1-05.pdf

check this article out, BRIC(Brazil, Russia, India, China), are expected to be the next group to go up to developed country status.
however, the Next 11(besides BRIC) includes vietnam.
go down and check the graphs, vn has a very high chance for becoming another well developed country among the BRICs in the next half century.
2050, man that's a long ass time.

man canada is so poor, what did we do to deserve this?

no all the lights you see are street lights, Vn is lacking in infrastructures, highways, that's why.

we use a lot of lights, but neon lights, so they're not very strong as incandescent lights

now I know why they said only 1 third of CHina is inhabitable, so we have lots of land left despite 6billions people.

yeah Vn is not wealthy but we're beautiful, look at our blond hair farm girls, I mean they beat all the girls in the world

India's infrastructure is well developed? I assure you its much worse than in Vietnam. One of the reasons why India is not developing as fast as China and Vietnam is because their infrastructure is absolutely shit.

"in fact the poverty rate in vietnam is very small compare to india (percentage wise not population wise" - now this doesn't make sense. If the percentage of the Vietnamese population considered poor is lower than in India (which is indeed true) then clearly there are more poor people in India in terms of population as well. So what do you mean not population wise?

vn has a very high chance for becoming another well developed country among the BRICs in the next half century.
2050, man that's a long ass time. what the f**k? The target for Vietnam is now to become a developed country by 2020 so even in the worst case scenario it would be something like 2030 so where on Earth did you come up with 2050.
Furthermore, India is gonna have like 2 bilion people in 20 years so there is no way they can become developed because the Earth resources simply can't sustain the level of cunsumption of the 2 billion indians plus the rest of the world. Their population growth is simply too high and due to cultural reasons it cannot be reduced. Fortunately we don't have that problem in Vietnam.

yeah 80 mill spread out along the coast of Vietnam and the country side, that's why you don't see many light, we are simple and humble

India they have over 1billlion and are squeeze inside that area, they bound to have more lights

and you have to remember Vn is saving resources, usually when the sky turns dark blue around 4-5 other countries start to lit up their street lights.

I remember Saigon didn't turn on street lights until 6-7 and they shut down around 4-5 in the morning.....other countries 6-8 am (winter time)
so this picture imaybe was taken around that time