Quite interesting findings by PricewaterhouseCoopers(PWC) : 9 out of 10 city Council workers are very incompetent. The number of engineers in the council is a also choking if not a shocking revelation. That is the reason why town roads and pavements (and other services) are so bads, what do think?
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Quite interesting findings by PricewaterhouseCoopers(PWC) : 9 out of 10 city Council workers are very incompetent. The number of engineers in the council is a also choking if not a shocking revelation. That is the reason why town roads and pavements (and other services) are so bads, what do think?
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I think there's already a thread for the ills that Nairobi faces thanks to the current NCC administration. I've provided the link below. It's best we keep the discussion in one thread.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1473019

The ministry of local governments is not doing a great hob. They should simply get rid of the minister (Mudavadi). Apparently this same person wants to run for presidency.:ohno:

i agree with you Xjamaax.Im kiuk have to say...but its time we got rid of all the tribal politics.if person doesnt perform,theres no reason we should reward them with an even higher position..this goes to kisia too.things were working when late karisa maaitha ,muskari kombo and john gakuo were in the helm of local ministry and kanjo respectively.But i kinda feel in kenya we always have a way of sending performing ministers home and keeping the goons in parliament.look at 07 elections.we got rid of people like mukisa kitui tuju ochilo ayako mutahi kagwe akaranga and the likes and we kept midiwo,anyang nyong, beth mugo,mudavadi kosgei sonko and list goes on.Kibaki doesnt make tings better either by makin stupid appointments...like why would you remove a performing minister like mutula kilonzo...he did his job!!and raila too...y did he sack balala...the guy must say was performing!but instead we reward people like ongeri...people with scandals and scandals.time kenyans style up or else we are doomed!

i agree with you Xjamaax.Im kiuk have to say...but its time we got rid of all the tribal politics.if person doesnt perform,theres no reason we should reward them with an even higher position..this goes to kisia too.things were working when late karisa maaitha ,muskari kombo and john gakuo were in the helm of local ministry and kanjo respectively.But i kinda feel in kenya we always have a way of sending performing ministers home and keeping the goons in parliament.look at 07 elections.we got rid of people like mukisa kitui tuju ochilo ayako mutahi kagwe akaranga and the likes and we kept midiwo,anyang nyong, beth mugo,mudavadi kosgei sonko and list goes on.Kibaki doesnt make tings better either by makin stupid appointments...like why would you remove a performing minister like mutula kilonzo...he did his job!!and raila too...y did he sack balala...the guy must say was performing!but instead we reward people like ongeri...people with scandals and scandals.time kenyans style up or else we are doomed!

As much as our leaders are also to blame, we cant lay the entire blame on them. The fact is Kenya doesnt have enough skilled workers and getting rid of Mudavadi will not change that. Many skilled workers in Kenya end up migrating to other countries where the pay is better. So, the gava should find ways of retaining these workers. I shudder to think what will happen in the future now that we are going to have county governments. If the central government doesnt have enough skilled labour then what hope will counties like Wajir have when even the local population can hardly read or write? :ohno:

As much as our leaders are also to blame, we cant lay the entire blame on them. The fact is Kenya doesnt have enough skilled workers and getting rid of Mudavadi will not change that. Many skilled workers in Kenya end up migrating to other countries where the pay is better. So, the gava should find ways of retaining these workers. I shudder to think what will happen in the future now that we are going to have county governments. If the central government doesnt have enough skilled labour then what hope will counties like Wajir have when even the local population can hardly read or write? :ohno:

kenya has more than enough skilled and semi-skilled workers.One of the major things pulling investors to kenya is human resource.Only thing is that the govt has not tapped into that and for a long time govt jobs were jus positions dished out to relatives and friends of the well connected hence the mess. And some things are not bout education but rather culture.Its normal to see someone reading the paper in a kenyan office talkin to their phones and even as i mentioned i came to jkia and found workers in uniform sleepin on the floor others just reading the papers and the place was dirty not cleaned!and thats the first impression someone gets when they jet into the country.

as for some counties,yes i agree with you they lack skilled labour there but once the whole devolution thing happens you will see people moving from Nairobi and back to mashinani.And its suprising that we have better elected leaders doing a good job from those areas than their counterparts in central nyanza and western which have many smart people but we simply overlook them when it comes to voting

As much as our leaders are also to blame, we cant lay the entire blame on them. The fact is Kenya doesnt have enough skilled workers and getting rid of Mudavadi will not change that. Many skilled workers in Kenya end up migrating to other countries where the pay is better. So, the gava should find ways of retaining these workers. I shudder to think what will happen in the future now that we are going to have county governments. If the central government doesnt have enough skilled labour then what hope will counties like Wajir have when even the local population can hardly read or write? :ohno:

kenya has more than enough skilled and semi-skilled workers.One of the major things pulling investors to kenya is human resource.Only thing is that the govt has not tapped into that and for a long time govt jobs were jus positions dished out to relatives and friends of the well connected hence the mess. And some things are not bout education but rather culture.Its normal to see someone reading the paper in a kenyan office talkin to their phones and even as i mentioned i came to jkia and found workers in uniform sleepin on the floor others just reading the papers and the place was dirty not cleaned!and thats the first impression someone gets when they jet into the country.

as for some counties,yes i agree with you they lack skilled labour there but once the whole devolution thing happens you will see people moving from Nairobi and back to mashinani.And its suprising that we have better elected leaders doing a good job from those areas than their counterparts in central nyanza and western which have many smart people but we simply overlook them when it comes to voting

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kenya has more than enough skilled and semi-skilled workers

as for some counties,yes i agree with you they lack skilled labour there but once the whole devolution thing happens you will see people moving from Nairobi and back to mashinani.And its suprising that we have better elected leaders doing a good job from those areas than their counterparts in central nyanza and western which have many smart people but we simply overlook them when it comes to voting

You couldn't contradict yourself more if you tried! On one hand you declare Kenya has more than enough skilled labor, but in the same breath you say that some counties are lacking! Government devolution won't solve a thing. The county governments will propagate nepotism & tribalism to a greater extent whereby they hire/employ local semi-qualified talent to run their agencies. A point of note, skilled labor falls in numerous fields that Kenya doesn't currently posses. For instance, Kenya is deemed to have just above 5% arable land which somehow is not enough to feed the nation. Kenya is looking to hire Israeli professionals to help increase & maximize Kenya's production potential in food sufficiency in areas deemed wastelands. Aside from the US, The Netherlands & Denmark, to name a few, not many countries optimize their food production like Israel. This goes way beyond basic farming skills & weather patterns. To a greater extent it relies on modern engineering. Brayo is right in his proclamation that a lot of Kenyan skilled talent migrate to countries for better pay. Brain drain has been Africa's biggest achilles heel for decades. Nepotism & tribalism is a problem in Kenya, but it's not the end all be all problem. Collective poor governance is.

You couldn't contradict yourself more if you tried! On one hand you declare Kenya has more than enough skilled labor, but in the same breath you say that some counties are lacking! Government devolution won't solve a thing. The county governments will propagate nepotism & tribalism to a greater extent whereby they hire/employ local semi-qualified talent to run their agencies. A point of note, skilled labor falls in numerous fields that Kenya doesn't currently posses. For instance, Kenya is deemed to have just above 5% arable land which somehow is not enough to feed the nation. Kenya is looking to hire Israeli professionals to help increase & maximize Kenya's production potential in food sufficiency in areas deemed wastelands. Aside from the US, The Netherlands & Denmark, to name a few, not many countries optimize their food production like Israel. This goes way beyond basic farming skills & weather patterns. To a greater extent it relies on modern engineering. Brayo is right in his proclamation that a lot of Kenyan skilled talent migrate to countries for better pay. Brain drain has been Africa's biggest achilles heel for decades. Nepotism & tribalism is a problem in Kenya, but it's not the end all be all problem. Collective poor governance is.

i didn't contradict myself at all.Kenya has more skilled labour than its actually utilizing/needs at this time.we always blame brain drain but its just a small percentage that are in other countries and who would otherwise not be employed in kenya.Like look at it closely...how many trained teachers ,nurses,business students are there in kenya,just jobless ..many.and what i meant is yes some counties dont have enough skilled labour..but kenya as a whole has more than enough.jus a matter of distribution.If jobs start opening up mashambani ul be suprised how many people will move back.

as for the issue of farming,i agree with you to some extent but not fully.I somehow believe even with the 5% arable land you are talkin about,if well utilized there could be some crazy harvest.take a simple thing likemaize....huku states an acre of corn produces almost 5 times what we produce in an acre in kenya.yes the govt should embark on putting more land under farming and yes there are other ways of making use of arid areas and optimizing.Eg industrial and service towns.look at something like carlif and vegas and arizona.they are majorly deserts but seee how cash is generated in those areas

I really dislike such self loathing threads masked as constructive criticism.

I think there's already a thread for the ills that Nairobi faces thanks to the current NCC administration. I've provided the link below. It's best we keep the discussion in one thread.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1473019

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I really dislike such self loathing threads masked as constructive criticism.



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Its not self loathing.Its jus discusing things as they are.There should be threads for developments and threads where we could look back and see where we went wrong or going wrong and what could be done...otherwise there will be no developments !They go hand in hand.If only there was a big forum where Kenyans could air their griviances and discuss stuff and make an impact,rather than stay in denial do things in same old ways but expect different results

Let's discuss the NCC in the existing thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1473019)