We are currently doing an informal study that we hope to release sometime in the next two months. To spur friendly competition and an improvement in the quality of life of our secondary and tertiary cities, we are coming up with a ranking of the top ten cities outside Metro Manila in terms of having the most exciting nightlife.

Please contribute! All suggestions welcome.

Our Top Ten So Far:
1. Boracay
2. Davao
3. Cebu
4. Baguio
5. Cagayan de Oro
6. Dumaguete
7. Angeles-Clark
8. Bacolod
9. Puerto Galera
10. Subic-Olongapo

walang poll?

anyway heres my top ten

!. CEBU - some would even say na mas wild ang nightlife sa cebu than in manila, I witnessed it first hand when i was n cebu for the jamaican nights, 10,000 ata ang estimate na tao na nag attend, yung buong cebu beach club naging parang sementeryo kapag todos los santos! ganun kadami, and the traffic was almost two km ata, to think na medyo malayo na yun sa cebu city proper. too bad yung "blood bath" parties that are held every friday the 13th ay nawala na, that blood bath is wild din! there are good number of bars and clubs din, vudu is one good example, its like in makati na halos ata lahat ng pumapasok dun models at goodlooking peeps, i saw some stars from manila wen i was there na hindi pinapansin sa vudu, dinadaan daanan lang ng mga tao like theyre not stars, no star treatment at vudu tapos P100 lang ang entrance!

2. BORACAY - kailangan pa bang i elaborate? BEST in BEACH PARTY!!!

3. DAVAO - MTS and the venue great! jacks ridge oks din

4.ANGELES-CLARK

5.SUBIC-OLONGAPO

6.CDO

7.BACOLOD

cant comment on the others.. d pa ko nakakapunta sa nytlyf nila

Since I dont really prefer going to clubs to "party" and everything ... I'd say Cebu has a nice grasp of the Phil's rock scene, I say this because I'm hearing of great bands from Cebu, some of the being recognized nationally (not that it matters)

If only more support is given to Ilonggo Bands/Artists, coz there are a lot of talent here left undiscovered. Also, the crowds here are great! Manila-based bands can get enough of it ... they keep coming back again and again for concerts and stuff ...

When it comes to party scene... Id say Boracay, Cebu & Davao. I can only speak for Davao since 99% of my nightlife are spent here. Though per city ordinance limits partying up to 2AM only, even 24hrs convenience stores stop selling liquors by 2 AM. Smoking is regulated in all enclosed establishments... There are designated smoking rooms/areas.

Party places here you shouldnt miss:

1. The Venue
2. Matina Town Square
3. Rizal Promenade
4. Liquid
5. Octane
6. Autoshop

Speaking of talents, I guess Davao talents are now known nationwide... these include Freestyle, Southborder, MYMP.

If outside Manila? its gotta be Cebu.. :D

i can only think of 5 fave nightlife scenes:
1. Cebu (Metro Cebu)
2. Davao
3. Angeles
4. Subic
5. Tagaytay

agree rin ako cebu. havent been there. pero ive been hearing stuff about cebu nightlife. my cebuano friends dito sa university ang talagang pinaka adik sa partying.

and yung bands. may isang cebu based band na sumikat dito. ung urbandub. panalo. daig ang marami dito and ung mga foreign banda bandahan. i've 2 cds ng urbandub. galing talaga.

sa iba ewan. bora, davao and baguio talagang kilala yan. i rarely go outside metro manila kasi. tas pag out of town, baon lang ng iinumin at ipupulutan with friends.

agree rin ako cebu. havent been there. pero ive been hearing stuff about cebu nightlife. my cebuano friends dito sa university ang talagang pinaka adik sa partying.

and yung bands. may isang cebu based band na sumikat dito. ung urbandub. panalo. daig ang marami dito and ung mga foreign banda bandahan. i've 2 cds ng urbandub. galing talaga.

sa iba ewan. bora, davao and baguio talagang kilala yan. i rarely go outside metro manila kasi. tas pag out of town, baon lang ng iinumin at ipupulutan with friends.

cebu is one great place but kinda annoying pag laking maynila ka, i just don't like how they treat tagalog folks, it is a city where in some times you feel so foreign. so foreign kase folks down there would rather speak cebuano and english and nothing in between. and you can actually feel tension once tanongin mo sila ng tagalog, kahit naiintindihan nila ung tinanong mo, they will answer you in pure cebuano.. with pride! (a pride very uncalled for when asking directions, finding a toilet or buying stuff at a store) you are better off there speaking english in that city.

i have nothing against it but kinda like part of their culture, i think it's their way to inculturate you with their language. i also heard na cebuanos have an attitude na "pag nasa maynila ako, magtatagalog ako pero pag ikaw nasa lugar namin, magcebuano ka!" or kinda like that..

Now you know how it feels like to have Southern Tagalog/Manila culture imposed on you if you are not Tagalog.

mbassyambassador,

You know, I had the same experience as you when I visited Cebu. It put me in an awkward situation especially when I had to ask for directions when I rode the jeepney. I felt people smirking at me. It felt awkward also because I also did not like to have to be pa-ingles-ingles to fellow pinoys. Buti na lang, there was one person there who was willing to help me out.

I don't think it's the average Manilenos fault that Tagalog was made basis as Filipino. I don't think Tagalogs should be censured for that. While I was there, I kept my mouth shut most of the time. Still, I enjoyed my stay. I could have enjoyed it more if it weren't for that uneasiness in revealing that I'm from Manila.

guys... ive read about this stuff sa isang forum (not ssc) sabi nung isang taga mla na palaging nasa cebu, kaya daw ganun ang reaction ng mga cebuano w tagalog ppl is because they know na they would sound "funny" pag nagtagalog sila, kaya as much as possible inaavoid nila to speak loud tagalog. sabi nung isang taga cebu dun, nasa isip lang daw natin na na iiritate sila pero its not that naman daw.

ako ive had a first hand experiene with this, sa 5 tao na tinatagalog ko 2 or 3 would answer me back in english, pero theyre polite enuf to say to me na theyd rather answer me in english kasi "they dont sound good" in tagalog daw, pero im comfortable with tagalog or english naman so d gaanong abala, and i try to talk to them w/ the litl cebuano words that i know

and it didnt stop me from enjoying the nightlife that the queen city is offering!!!! wild talaga!!!! and its so true.... it could rival manila's nightlife.... plus lotsa goodlooking girls, sarap tignan, sabi nga nung isang kasama ko na girl who's from manila rin na "matotomboy daw ata sya dun" hehehehe

guys... ive read about this stuff sa isang forum (not ssc) sabi nung isang taga mla na palaging nasa cebu, kaya daw ganun ang reaction ng mga cebuano w tagalog ppl is because they know na they would sound "funny" pag nagtagalog sila, kaya as much as possible inaavoid nila to speak loud tagalog. sabi nung isang taga cebu dun, nasa isip lang daw natin na na iiritate sila pero its not that naman daw.


in national tv some comedy shows ppl make fun of visayan accent, thats why siguro they prefer to speak in english. ako naman, i speak cebuano minsan may halong tagalog & english. mejo mahirap din kasi pure tagalog or pure english for me. kaya kung san ako masaya, te dun ako.

dice & k9 were from cebu previously known as anthill mob. tama ba? cebu's underground scene is no longer underground.

top ten...
1.boracay during the summer hot months.(This is not a city right?)
1.cebu-because CASBAH is there (check out this bar in mango ave...you'll agree why cebu can rival manila)
3.baguio
3.davao- i think because it's really safe.
4.cdo-all night up in divisoria
5.bacolod-
6.iloilo-
7.clark/angeles(are the girlie bars still operating?)

by the way...
I like the cebuano band named CUESHE and their song titled STAY...cool.

check this website...

www.talentfolio.com

Thanks for the comments.

1. We missed Tagaytay! All the new bars and restaurants that have sprung up along the ridge has indeed turned this place into a nightlife center. Great! We need to re-think our ranking. Are there other hotspots in Luzon that we may have missed?

2. We also have to re-update Cebu's spot. I was under the impression the Davao was ready to overtake Cebu, with their nationally known homegrown bands, unique places like the Venue and Bluegre Cafe, but with the 2AM curfew, I think we have to readjust.

Which are the main nightlife areas of Cebu? I am familiar with the bars in Ayala Center (is Mi Vida still the hottest bar?) and the Village, though we did notice that some of the clubs and bars in the village had shut down. Have these spots been re-opened?

Thanks for the comments.
2. We also have to re-update Cebu's spot. I was under the impression the Davao was ready to overtake Cebu, with their nationally known homegrown bands, unique places like the Venue and Bluegre Cafe, but with the 2AM curfew, I think we have to readjust.


let me correct my statement on curfew.
curfew on minors 10:00 PM nga pala.
selling alcoholic drinks up to 2:00 only. but it doesnt mean the party stops. depende sa crowd. usually after 2:00 people look for coffee or dimsum.

i'll share these daytime pics. sorry sa poor quality.

The Venue http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/venue/venue1.jpg

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Matina Town Square (MTS)

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Bluegre Coffee @ MTS

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Bluegre Coffee @ Landco

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the last time I went there, The Village is only busy during fridays up to the weekends. that was early december last year. I don't really know how is it now. There was a building being finished during that time just accross the street and they said that this I.T. PARK area (where the village is) will be packed with people when the building will be finished. Not so sure why though. But from the looks of it, I think this area will be turning out like Eastwood City in the future. Somebody even told me that Starbucks will be opening in the Village by the end of this year.
Vudu-is very hip and first class
Saints and Sinners-hip and notorious
Ayala Entertainment Center is a complex of bars and restos. Ratsky is there.
Crossroads Mall-this is where Vudu is and Krua Thai

There are very large dance lounges that i saw but I found them not so good like...
SUNFLOWER CITY-this is just a few walks from The Village. Most of the crowd are Korean tourists though I like the Badminton Court Complex beside it.
NASA-I just saw the big building and the signage while going to the airport.

Thanks for the comments.

1. We missed Tagaytay! All the new bars and restaurants that have sprung up along the ridge has indeed turned this place into a nightlife center. Great! We need to re-think our ranking. Are there other hotspots in Luzon that we may have missed?

2. We also have to re-update Cebu's spot. I was under the impression the Davao was ready to overtake Cebu, with their nationally known homegrown bands, unique places like the Venue and Bluegre Cafe, but with the 2AM curfew, I think we have to readjust.

Which are the main nightlife areas of Cebu? I am familiar with the bars in Ayala Center (is Mi Vida still the hottest bar?) and the Village, though we did notice that some of the clubs and bars in the village had shut down. Have these spots been re-opened?

I forgot. MI VIDA is already closed. I think that was like 2 years ago. I'm not sure. I have to confirm this.

Found this site: I dunno if this ones updated.

WA'Y BLIMA! (http://www.wayblima.com/cebu-nightlife.html)

The ultimate web portal to Cebu
CEBU VISITORS GUIDE: FOOD & ENTERTAINMENT: NIGHTLIFE


NIGHTLIFE
Cebu has a fantastic nightlife. The scene may be smaller than in Manila, and everything does shut down a bit early - about 2:30 AM on weekdays - but the overall quality is great and you can easily get from place to place, especially at nighttime when traffic is light. This makes it easy to pack a lot of quality party time into a short time period.

So where does all this partying take place? Cebu's last disco closed in 2003. This is because Cebuanos consider dancing to music from a recording as silly and dated. Cebuanos are consummate party animals and don't need much encouragement to start dancing, singing, or drinking, but, these days, if there's no live band at your club, you're out of the running.

There are two exceptions. Halo, in SM, and Brix, in Ayala, do pump music from the speakers. On weekends, both places become packed to bursting point with horny teenagers. Brix has a few billiard tables, but if you want to poke balls with a cue the better place to go is 9 Ball, in SM and on General Maxillom Avenue, or Sencia's, wedged between the Waterfront and the flyover.

There are no bars in Cebu. There are establishments euphemestically called "bars" but there is not a single establishment with a long counter where customers can sit around and complain to the bartender about their bosses. That we don't have, yet. If properly implemented, that might be an excellent investment right now.

While Cebu lacks bar-like bars, it does have a lot of girlie bars, euphemestically known as KTV's or karaoke bars. The real karaoke joint where you can take your mom, meanwhile, is called a "family KTV." There are only two family KTV's; one at the Gaisano Bowlingplex and K1, at Crossroads. K1 has all the latest songs - Avril Lavigne, for instance - whereas the girlie bars mascarading as KTV's have no songs in their catalog more recent than ABBA.

LIVE BANDS
There are a number of places with stages and live bands, and most do not deviate from the basic format. Usually, there will be two bands, and each will do two sets, with short gaps between the bands. However, on a weeknight, only one band may do three sets (but may be surprised to be confronting a full house). The first set commences around 9 PM.

The most famous of resto-bars featuring live bands is, perhaps, Ratsky's, in the Ayala Entertainment Center. This is an expansion from Manila. While the design of the Cebu's Ratsky's is far better than the one in Manila, they haven't shaken the unfortunate tendency to fly in bands from Manila to alternate with the local bands. The quality of the Manila bands isn't bad, to be sure, but they seem to be less in tune with the crowds, perhaps because of language difficulties.

A long-established favorite is Jukebox, in the Cebu Convention Center on Arch Reyes, near Ayala. While they do play contemporary hits, the bands at Jukebox are not alternated enough - the featured bands tend to be the same week after week - and the repertoire of the favored bands seems to be a bit heavy on 70's disco hits such as "September" by Earth, Wind & Fire. Jukebox are currently under renovation.

Almost no Cebuano band plays original songs; all deliver perfectly executed covers of Western and, to a lesser extent, Tagalog hits. Given the size of the city, the quality of the Cebuano bands is amazing; they perform at a level you would expect to find at a major cosmopolitan metropolis. Little wonder, then, that every now and then one gets yanked away to perform on cruise ships or at clubs in Japan.
Speaking of renovation, Camp Zitro morphed into Camp Z after a revamp which was completed in September, 2004. To be honest, when military-themed Camp Zitro opened in 2002, I didn't expect it to stay around this long, despite cute touches such as dining attendant uniforms modelled on army fatigues. The food has remained terrible since day one, and the service is little better. But Camp Z remains a popular nightspot - people tend to gather there and you end up going back, perhaps due to the good quality of the bands and the convenient location.

One of the coolest places is perhaps Sinners and Saints, a spacious nightspot located in the Northgate Mall, which opened in 2003. Sinners and Saints has a unique ambience derived from the cute concept: little devils and angels abound. The decor apparently cost half a million dollars - that's a lot for Cebu - and is appropriately sinister.

Another great place is The Village Courtyard. A restaurant and bar complex called The Village opened on the grounds of an old airfield across the Waterfront Lahug in 2001, and immediately drew crowds. But when the Ayala Entertainment Center arrived on the scene in 2002, the young and hip people left, and a few geezers were left behind sipping margaritas in what used to be one of the hottest bars, Yo! Latino. The Village fought back by remodelling an open courtyard, adding a stage and seats. It's now one of the nicest places to party, especially because the menu features authentic pizzas baked by the Italian restaurant next door.

An old favorite is Slabadu, which you may call Slabaduy because of the tacky decor ("baduy" means "tasteless" in Cebuano). But Slabadu is nonetheless an excellent place to spend the evening. The bands have honed their craft after years of entertaining birthday celebrants, newly engaged couples, and management teams who've just closed a deal. One thing I like about Slabadu is that it's very dark towards the rear; this makes it a good place to bring a date. And the food is superb; try the kinilaw.

In 2003, two giant new clubs muscled in on the scene. Sunflower, on Salinas, and NASA, on A S Fortuna, are huge in comparison to the other places. Financed by Korean capital, the talk in early 2003 - when both clubs were about to open - was to what extent Sunflower and NASA would decimate the smaller Cebuano clubs. It turned out that, despite their size, Sunflower and NASA aren't getting much business except a steady stream of Korean tourists, probably due to the tasteless interior decoration, which probably stems from North Korea.

Over the past year a trend has emerged favoring acoustic, or unplugged, performances, and some of the establishments have acoustic nights. But the place to go for acoustic sound is really Kahayag Cafe, on M J Cuenco, who've been focused on acoustic for years.

blugre cafe? cebu has bo's, nag branch na sila here in manila, i dont see any blugre here in mla, though i hate durian like hell, naiintriga ako dun sa durian coffee nila

i have been to cebu, davao, cdo and puerto... so my choices outside mla are

1.CEBU - parang manila pero a looooooot cheaper, WILD ang party!!! ive been to a bloodbath party before and twas fantastic, may story kasi yung whole concept of bloodbath, pati yung jamaican nights, good tradition during summer, kakatawa lang last summer, may nadulas na male contestant sa stage, hehehehe, they also have this yearly bob marley day, lahat ng rasta's andun, kahayag cafe naman kung ibang level ang gusto mo! nice parties down south talaga!!! tsaka their bands... excellent talaga! ive been to the village w my cebuano friends and may nagpplay na music d ko akalaing live band pala yun, kuhang kuha, sabi nung iba kong friends meron na rin bagong tinatayong pang hang out that could rival crossroads (where vudu is) and its called banilad square, may gloria jeans coffee din dun w/c is an australian based coffee chain, d talaga pahuhuli ang cebu

2.davao - ok lang, pero medyo na bore ako, but deserving enough to be on the second spot, hopin to be back there kapag kadayawan week

3.CDO

4.PUERTO

when it comes to nightlife outside Manila .. there are only two places I like most ..

BORACAY, the first ... then CEBU.

i have nothing against it but kinda like part of their culture, i think it's their way to inculturate you with their language. i also heard na cebuanos have an attitude na "pag nasa maynila ako, magtatagalog ako pero pag ikaw nasa lugar namin, magcebuano ka!" or kinda like that..


To this day, there are still many non-Tagalogs who resent Tagalog's official status and resist the language of the "imperialist" capital city.
Maybe Cebuano is one of them.

... and it didnt stop me from enjoying the nightlife that the queen city is offering!!!! wild talaga!!!! and its so true.... it could rival manila's nightlife.... plus lotsa goodlooking girls, sarap tignan, sabi nga nung isang kasama ko na girl who's from manila rin na "matotomboy daw ata sya dun" hehehehe

you can check out the cebu thread. someone posted photos of girls from cebu there.

click:
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=193913&page=9&pp=20

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Homegrown

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Ayala Entertainment Center
Brix Cafe, Ratsky's, LeSoleil, EastWest, HapJaps, etc.

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Ratsky's

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The TOP

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Crossroads
Vudu, HighLife, IO and restos like Krua Thai, Chicken Bacolod, etc.


Casbah pics

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Live band

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sheeshas awaiting use

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the good stuff: sheesha tobacco

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take your shoes off, have a sheesha, grab a beer

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you and me and a sheesha at casbah

Banilad Town Center
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A new hangout place near University of Cebu (blue bldg), beside the Country Mall (right). haven't been there but they say a lot of restos will soon open in that area. yellow cab pizza, gloria jeans and starbucks recently opened. btw, Northgate mall is right beside the University of Cebu bldg. where Sinners and Saints bar is located. highly recommended, top of the line sound system, modern interiors, great food, also where best local bands converge. :okay:

well.. I think...
Cebu, Boracay, Davao, Puerto Galera, Naga, Angeles City, Baguio City,

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Ratsky's


Great pictures but... why do people who try to be fashionable always look bored?

mukang sleepy yung nasa sofa heheh he shoulda' stayed home

nice pics Rusty!

really depends who you're with and what time of the year. if you go during fiesta masaya , if you know people who will tell you where to go masaya rin, I've been to most of the above mentioned places and spent quiet evenings

Great pictures but... why do people who try to be fashionable always look bored?

Because they think that they're too cool for the place and its environs? :dunno:

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Ratsky's


im pretty sure this pic was shot past 3am. notice ratsky's security guard and personnel who are about to go home. hehehe

definitely CEBU

then davao comes next.

I have a lot of cebuano friends and I think they are really very nice and accommodating although at first encounter you may think that they are a bit too occupied with being a cebuano and that they resist adapting Manila's language and ways, all of these are temporary. Well, most of the time we converse in English so that no communication problem will occur, knowing that Cebuanos are really hard-up with speaking Tagalog.

My top 10 Cities in the Philippines outside Metro Manila are (not necessarily in that order):

1) Cebu City - for its being the extension of Makati in Central Philippines
2) Baguio City - obviously, for being the eternal summer capital of the Phiilippines
3) Dagupan City - for its bangus
4) Cavite City - for my fond childhood memories
5) Tagaytay City - Metro Manilans weekend hideaway
6) Gen. Santos City - for its bountiful seafood harvest all-year round
7) Antipolo City - for its clean and green surroundings; its people are also friendly.
8) Zamboaga City - for its lovely people and flowers
9) Puerto Princesa City - for its peace-loving people and care for the environment
10) Malolos City - for its historical and cultural impact on our country

Cebu
Baguio
Boracay (Malay, Aklan)
Tagaytay
Antipolo
Roxas City
Bacolod
Ilo-Ilo
short by two

A scene at Bo's...
(credits to rusty18 for the photo)

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Our turn to step up at the till.

Bo's guy: Good afternoon! May I have your order sir?
My friend: Boss, isang cafe latte para sa akin, tapos dito sa kasama ko capuccino.
Bo's guy: Ok sir, that's one caffe latte and one capuccino. Sir would you like to have fruit on the caffe latte?
My friend: Fruit?
Bo's guy: Yes sir, dagdagan natin ng fruit....
My friend: Ano'ng klaseng fruit yon? (thinking raspberry, orange, vanilla syrup additives) Yun ba yung syrup na nasa bote?
Bo's guy: Ay hindi sir. Yung fruit po ay yung parang gatas na bumubula on top of the coffee.
My friend: Ah ok!
Me to friend: Tanga mo pare!

Based on statistics, judging on the basis of the following criteria: industrialization, size and population, infrastractures, degree of importance to the country, and nightlife, the following are the top ten cities in the country:

1. Metro Manila
2.. Metro Cebu
3.. Davao City
4. Iloilo City
5. Cagayan de Oro City
6. Bacolod City
7. Baguio City
8.Zamboanga City
9. Gen. Santos City
10. Angeles City

Outside Manila? Cebu is the best of course.. Boracay is tooo 'provincial' .. it doesnt have a 'city feeling' .. Many tourist even think that Cebu's night life is better than Manila's. Cebu's favourite and most visited night club are..

1.) Ratsky's
2.) Mi Vida!
3.) Fuel
4.) New Jamaica
5.) Rez Night Club

The city is more lively and exciting in Cebu's Sinulog Festival every January. Like Boracay, Cebu has the finest beach resorts and hotels in the Visayas (eg. Shangrila Hotel, Cebu Beach Club, Tambuli, etc.) Truly, Cebu is the best in the Philippines, when it comes to nightlife. ;)

Truly, Cebu is the best in the Philippines, when it comes to nightlife. ;)

it depends on one's inclination & your own definition of nightlife. taste vary from person to person. anyways, cebu got it all in almost all aspects... beach party, festival, bars & restos. not far behind is davao. also cdo, baguio, iloilo, gensan & bacolod. i think boracay/malay, aklan maybe disqualified since the thread is for cities not municipality.

jack's ridge, davao's counterpart to the top in cebu:
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Top Ten Cities: Nightlife

1. Cebu - night clubs, casinos, beach, movie houses, sports facilities (more choices than Boracay which is not even a city, excluded)
2. Davao
3. Iloilo
4. Bacolod
5. Angeles
6. Cagayan de Oro
7. Baguio
8. Legaspi
9. Tacloban
10.Naga

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A crowd drawer, Jr. Kilat is a progressive reggae band based in the southern Philippines that uses local language (Cebuano) over a fusion of two or more reggae styles in a single song. Their songs often tackle ganja, sex, politics, current issues and local mythology. Their only handicap by far is their lack of melodic numbers.

source: Pbase

Other live band performances in Cebu

Bamboo
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There are very large dance lounges that i saw but I found them not so good like...
SUNFLOWER CITY-this is just a few walks from The Village. Most of the crowd are Korean tourists though I like the Badminton Court Complex beside it.

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Sunflower City
A wholesome entertainment party bar where you see a lot of Koreans. Of course, it is operated and owned by a Korean. The place is ok but not impressive. Food is really great. We sure had a great time when we went there. Korean trance, pop and novelty were played most of the time. :D

Café Havana, Ayala Lagoon
Cebu Business Park

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Jamaican Nights
Mactan, Cebu

Cebu's calendar is jam-packed with events, and Jamaican Nights is one of the biggest. Jamaican Nights started out as one of many beach parties held during the summer vacation (March/April). But something about Jamaican Nights was different, and it has since evolved into the mother of all beach parties. Hordes of people fly in from Manila, and MTV Philippines covers the event live.

Jamaican Nights essentially consists of performances by rock bands from Cebu and Manila, and male and female swimwear competitions featuring unknown model-wannabes. A number of people stay at the venue where the event is held, Cebu Beach Club, and apart from imbibing copious amounts of tequila and beer, go skinny dipping at the house beach.

I suppose the atmosphere is somewhat similar to what goes on during Spring Break events in the US. Not surprisingly, given the raging hormones and the large amounts of alcohol consumed, things get a little wild, and scuffles are not uncommon. If you're on a pacemaker, perhaps you should skip this event.

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A crowd drawer, Jr. Kilat is a progressive reggae band based in the southern Philippines that uses local language (Cebuano) over a fusion of two or more reggae styles in a single song. Their songs often tackle ganja, sex, politics, current issues and local mythology. Their only handicap by far is their lack of melodic numbers.

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yeah jr kilat. sounds good. may na-download ako nyan.

Poll Question: Will Jollibee expand successfully to North America? Or to the World?
Will they beat Macdonald's on their way of expansion? Discuss any consequences and circumstances about its expansion to the world of business..

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ako ang first na nagvote its 100%

It will expand where there is a sizeable Filipino population. But whether it grows outside of the Filipino market depends on their ability to capitalize on word of mouth and on their ability to distinguish themselves from their competition. For example, in California, there are several Jollibee restaurants. However, their customers are primarily Filipino. I don't think that this alone will guarantee their success. They need to make people choose to go there rather than the more mainstream competition like McDonalds, Wendy's or Burger King-- tall order. In my area, I think the only fast food place that's been able to succesfully draw a large clientel is In-n-Out. And they do this because they are able to play the "anti-McDonalds" card very well.

What's Jollibee's selling point other than their being Filipino?

They might wanna change the food... spaghetti's, burger with rice, and chicken arent really the food North American people can eat.. rather they would change it more north american than filipino style if they want to expand.. They should change the burgers into a full-loaded one rather than a chesseburger with some kind of a mustard on it... if i were them, i would definitely change the food based on cultural basis...

I go to the Jollibee near my house every month. Most of its customers are Filipino and so are its employees. It needs to remove the Filipino image before it can become a major fast food restaurant. I think they should keep the spaghetti in the menu but they should have an Italian style along side with the Manila version. Their burgers need a lot of work, especially the really basic ones (hamburger and cheese burger). The chicken on the other hand should be left alone. That's some good stuff. haha

^^^Right on the spot. Sweet spaghetti is distinctively very Filipino. and so is palabok.
if in the west, mashed potato can be a substitute for rice.(i. e.chicken joy and rice).
make the burgers bigger.

peach pie, apple pie, langka-macapuno pie would do good, I suppose.

jollibee kase lasang-pinoy so it would be hard to penetrate the world food market. but it would be nice to see jollibee in every corner of this world. :okay:

In my opinion, Lettuce, Tomato, Pickles should be added. Salads should be added in the menu.. we must consider today's health concern and Jollibee should enforce healthy foods more rather than more burgers and saturated-fats foods... That will boost its food sales in North America greatly as more people take in organics and vegetables daily...

It is great for Jollibee to have a loyal base of clientele, the Filipinos. Eventually it will expand but will take a long time for it to garner a bigger share of the market simply because of so many competition around. What it can do is to continually improve on its food, this will definitely help in making Jollibee reach a wider base of clientele.


Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

It is great for Jollibee to have a loyal base of clientele, the Filipinos. Eventually it will expand but will take a long time for it to garner a bigger share of the market simply because of so many competition around. What it can do is to continually improve on its food, this will definitely help in making Jollibee reach a wider base of clientele.


Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

i agree. just like what they did with their fries. malutong na siya saka mas masarap. unlike before when their fries is soggy like kamote. ngaun genuine potato na gamit nila. heheh :)

I took a german guy once and he ordered spaghetti and di mo mapinta mukha niya after the first nguya "it's sweet!" , taht's when i figured out na baka pang pinoy lang ang pinoy food, hehe

hahahahaha! look what mcdo, kenny rogers roasters, KFC are doing. Pinoy style na sila dito. May rice na sila, Mcdo may spaghetti... KFC dati bun lang ngayon may rice na rin.

why not....

YES. but they need to be adoptive with local taste just like what McDonalds did here in the Phils. market-wise, di naman sila ma-zero, may pinoys naman sa lahat ng sulok sa mundo.

The Jollibee taste experience caters to Pinoys, so they should expand to wherever there are large Pinoy expat communities in the world wanting that "back in the Philippines" feel. :colgate:

I don't like their food at all.]
Way way overrated.
One here already closed. Why go to Jollibee when you can go to a local turo-turo?

hahahahaha! look what mcdo, kenny rogers roasters, KFC are doing. Pinoy style na sila dito. May rice na sila, Mcdo may spaghetti... KFC dati bun lang ngayon may rice na rin.

McDonalds in the Philippines is 100% locally owned and no longer part of the original Mcdonalds chain. The local owners had bought out the American partners in the Philippine Mcdonalds chain.

Why go to Jollibee when you can go to a local turo-turo?
Agree, I don't even understand why there's a Jollibee in North America. There are many independently owned Filipino restaurants here that they can go to. If they want fast-food, there are plenty of McDo, BK, KFC, etc. here. Unless they can offer something that other fast-food restaurants don't, I can't see them surviving for very long here.

There's a Jollibee being built in Saudi Arabia (dunno exactly if its in riyadh) but for unkown reason they closed...yung franchiser ng Jolibee SA, sila rin yung may ari ng Jolibee sa Tayuman at Pasig simbahan. In fairness, sa Jollibee ko lang natikman ang pinaka masarap ng Spaghetti so far.

it's a big WHY NOT... but jollibee needs to be adaptive (as said before) to wherever it goes in the globe while offering true filipino taste. IMO they should start offering world known filipino recipes muna here to establish the filipino flavor around the world thus creating a sole identity for the bee. kase the problem with jollibee bakit hindi sila makapenetrate outside is their stuck with what they have in the philippines. and you know what they have here? sweetened versions of american favorites. (spaghetti, burger, chicken...) there are not alot of items in their menu that we can call TRULY Filipino.

exactly, even Wendy's in Japan, I heard that they are adding sushi in the menu because majority of people likes sushi with wasabe. Same thing with Jollibee if they want to be successive they should blend in with the crowd..

Oh god this is making me hungry. :(

I love Jollibee's spaghetti!

Agree, I don't even understand why there's a Jollibee in North America. There are many independently owned Filipino restaurants here that they can go to. If they want fast-food, there are plenty of McDo, BK, KFC, etc. here. Unless they can offer something that other fast-food restaurants don't, I can't see them surviving for very long here.

When you walk in a Jollibee outside of the Philippines, it's like being back in Pinas again. haha.. Plus, you can brag that Jollibee is kicking Mcdonald's ass in the Phlippines and the only local fast food restaurant chain in the world to do it.

Oh god this is making me hungry. :(

I love Jollibee's spaghetti!


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I miss Jollibee! :cry: I hope they gonna make a franchise here in Toronto :cry:

There's a Jollibee being built in Saudi Arabia (dunno exactly if its in riyadh) but for unkown reason they closed...yung franchiser ng Jolibee SA, sila rin yung may ari ng Jolibee sa Tayuman at Pasig simbahan. In fairness, sa Jollibee ko lang natikman ang pinaka masarap ng Spaghetti so far.
a kilala ko yung may-ari ng jollibee tayuman a.....it's a partnership or something

Jollibee stings McDonald's in Philippines

By Carlos H. Conde International Herald Tribune

TUESDAY, MAY 31, 2005


MANILA Sometime in the late 1970s, Tony Tan Caktiong, the owner of a small ice cream parlor in a lower- middle-class neighborhood here, learned that an American hamburger chain was coming to invade the Philippines.

Worried that his store, which had just started selling burgers, might get floored by the new competition, Tan Caktiong, a Filipino of Chinese descent, took a leaf from the Chinese military tactician Sun Tzu: he flew to the United States to know his future enemy.

When he returned to the Philippines a few weeks later, Tan Caktiong brought with him an arsenal of ideas on how to fortify his store, called Jollibee, to face the newcomer.

What followed was a classic tale of survival that quickly became a Filipino legend that is now being retold in the country's business schools, often with a tinge of nationalistic pride directed against the U.S. burger chain in question, McDonald's.

Tan Caktiong had no choice but to reinvent Jollibee.

"He was told that either he sold Jollibee to McDonald's or be its franchise holder here. 'They will eat you alive,' his friends told him," said John Victor Tence, vice president for corporate and human resources of Jollibee Foods.

Described by friends as self-effacing and frugal but determined, Tan Caktiong told his friends, "I have a third choice: I can fight McDonald's."

And fight he did, using as weapons the very things that made McDonald's successful: the mascot, the colorful uniforms of the crew, their cheerful greetings, French fries, fried chicken and a burger aimed at Filipino tastes and priced much lower.

"He brought the standards of Jollibee notches higher, at least on par with McDonald's, by basically copying what McDonald's was doing," Tence said.

By the time McDonald's put up its first store here, in 1981, it no longer offered anything new. Jollibee, meanwhile, was already prepared, having opened nine branches and started an aggressive marketing campaign. Jollibee entered the list of the top 1,000 corporations in the Philippines that same year. By 1984, it was in the Top 500 list and dominated the local fast-food market.

The Philippines, The Economist magazine wrote in 2002, "is a huge embarrassment to McDonald's," citing a Taylor Nelson Sofres study showing that Jollibee was the "most often visited" fast-food restaurant in the country.

Jollibee had grown so big and confident that, in 1986, it opened its first store overseas, in Taiwan. It was a sign of things to come. In 1998, Jollibee would encroach on McDonald's home territory, opening its first U.S. store in Daly City, California, which has a large Filipino population.

Today, Jollibee has more than 500 stores in the Philippines and 25 in other countries, selling more than half a million burgers every day. McDonald's has about 250 outlets in the Philippines, according to Cerwin Eviota, a public relations consultant for the chain.

Aside from the United States and Taiwan, Jollibee also has stores in Indonesia, Hong Kong, Saipan and Brunei, as well as in Vietnam, where sales grew 46 percent in the first quarter of 2004.

Jollibee Foods also embarked on an ambitious expansion program domestically and overseas, and not just for its flagship stores.

It bought Chowking, a popular Filipino fast-food chain that sells mainly Chinese food; it is now the dominant Chinese fast-food chain in the Philippines and has even entered the Indonesian market. Jollibee also acquired the local franchise for Delifrance, a French café and bakery chain.

It also bought Greenwich, a small pizza chain that has grown larger in the Philippines than another American giant, Pizza Hut. And it acquired Yonghe King, a fast-food chain in China. All in all, Jollibee Foods has 1,186 stores in nine countries, including 120 in China.

Jollibee is now the largest Filipino food company, with sales of 21.7 billion pesos, or $397 million, in 2004, up 13.7 percent from a year earlier. Sales in the first quarter of 2005 were up almost 20 percent.

Yonghe King sales in China grew 27 percent in the first quarter. All its other stores are doing well, with Delifrance increasing its sales by almost 32 percent in the first quarter of 2005.

The value of Jollibee stock has grown 28 percent since last year, and it was the best-performing domestic stock on the Philippine stock exchange.

Jollibee's business, said Jose Vistan of AB Capital Securities, "will be driven primarily by their expansion in other countries like China and the robust domestic market." Vistan forecasts Jollibee's profit for 2005 at 1.83 billion pesos, a jump of 21 percent from last year.

According to company officials and food experts, Jollibee owes its success to the fact that it respects local tastes. Unlike McDonald's, which was constrained by its obligation to remain faithful to its core products, Jollibee was flexible.

Gene Gonzalez, a restaurateur and food consultant who runs the Center for Asian Culinary Studies based in Manila, said Jollibee adjusted its burger to taste like the meatballs that Filipinos like eating. "Unlike Americans, Filipinos do not like pure beef patties, which can be bland. They like their burgers to taste like meatballs, which are stronger-flavored, with flavor extenders - spices, garlic, onion, celery," he said.

It helped that Jollibee makes sweet spaghetti, which is a turnoff to foreigners but loved by Filipinos, particularly children. It also offers Filipino fare like palabok - vermicelli noodles topped with sauce and fish flakes - and arroz caldo - rice porridge with chicken bits.

"These did not taste fast-foody at all," Gonzalez said. "The Jollibee palabok is decent palabok." Jollibee, he said, has a "good understanding of Filipino culture and taste."

Tence said that as the company expanded to more countries, it would use the same model.

"Initially, our thrust was to target Filipinos overseas, but we learned that targeting Filipinos was simply not enough," he said.

Then there is the culture factor. As part of its strategy to counter the Western image of McDonald's, Jollibee's marketing campaign promoted Filipino values like respect for elders, patriotism and loyalty to the family.

"Jollibee had this big marketing campaign that appealed to Filipino sentiment," Gonzalez said. Instead of running ads in English, as McDonald's did, Jollibee ran ads in Tagalog, the Filipino language.

It may be hard for McDonald's to match that, but it is certainly trying. This year, the McDonald's Philippine franchise became 100 percent Filipino-owned, which gave its owners some flexibility. George Yang, the Filipino-Chinese chairman of Golden Arches Development, the local McDonald's franchisee, now has taken a leaf from Tan Caktiong's book.

Yang said that his full acquisition of the franchise here would enable McDonald's to "give our customers even more by being more sensitive and responsive to their changing tastes and wants and by adding a local flavor to our product range."

MANILA Sometime in the late 1970s, Tony Tan Caktiong, the owner of a small ice cream parlor in a lower- middle-class neighborhood here, learned that an American hamburger chain was coming to invade the Philippines.

Worried that his store, which had just started selling burgers, might get floored by the new competition, Tan Caktiong, a Filipino of Chinese descent, took a leaf from the Chinese military tactician Sun Tzu: he flew to the United States to know his future enemy.

When he returned to the Philippines a few weeks later, Tan Caktiong brought with him an arsenal of ideas on how to fortify his store, called Jollibee, to face the newcomer.

What followed was a classic tale of survival that quickly became a Filipino legend that is now being retold in the country's business schools, often with a tinge of nationalistic pride directed against the U.S. burger chain in question, McDonald's.

Tan Caktiong had no choice but to reinvent Jollibee.

"He was told that either he sold Jollibee to McDonald's or be its franchise holder here. 'They will eat you alive,' his friends told him," said John Victor Tence, vice president for corporate and human resources of Jollibee Foods.

Described by friends as self-effacing and frugal but determined, Tan Caktiong told his friends, "I have a third choice: I can fight McDonald's."

And fight he did, using as weapons the very things that made McDonald's successful: the mascot, the colorful uniforms of the crew, their cheerful greetings, French fries, fried chicken and a burger aimed at Filipino tastes and priced much lower.

"He brought the standards of Jollibee notches higher, at least on par with McDonald's, by basically copying what McDonald's was doing," Tence said.

By the time McDonald's put up its first store here, in 1981, it no longer offered anything new. Jollibee, meanwhile, was already prepared, having opened nine branches and started an aggressive marketing campaign. Jollibee entered the list of the top 1,000 corporations in the Philippines that same year. By 1984, it was in the Top 500 list and dominated the local fast-food market.

The Philippines, The Economist magazine wrote in 2002, "is a huge embarrassment to McDonald's," citing a Taylor Nelson Sofres study showing that Jollibee was the "most often visited" fast-food restaurant in the country.

Jollibee had grown so big and confident that, in 1986, it opened its first store overseas, in Taiwan. It was a sign of things to come. In 1998, Jollibee would encroach on McDonald's home territory, opening its first U.S. store in Daly City, California, which has a large Filipino population.

Today, Jollibee has more than 500 stores in the Philippines and 25 in other countries, selling more than half a million burgers every day. McDonald's has about 250 outlets in the Philippines, according to Cerwin Eviota, a public relations consultant for the chain.

Aside from the United States and Taiwan, Jollibee also has stores in Indonesia, Hong Kong, Saipan and Brunei, as well as in Vietnam, where sales grew 46 percent in the first quarter of 2004.

Jollibee Foods also embarked on an ambitious expansion program domestically and overseas, and not just for its flagship stores.

It bought Chowking, a popular Filipino fast-food chain that sells mainly Chinese food; it is now the dominant Chinese fast-food chain in the Philippines and has even entered the Indonesian market. Jollibee also acquired the local franchise for Delifrance, a French café and bakery chain.

It also bought Greenwich, a small pizza chain that has grown larger in the Philippines than another American giant, Pizza Hut. And it acquired Yonghe King, a fast-food chain in China. All in all, Jollibee Foods has 1,186 stores in nine countries, including 120 in China.

Jollibee is now the largest Filipino food company, with sales of 21.7 billion pesos, or $397 million, in 2004, up 13.7 percent from a year earlier. Sales in the first quarter of 2005 were up almost 20 percent.

Yonghe King sales in China grew 27 percent in the first quarter. All its other stores are doing well, with Delifrance increasing its sales by almost 32 percent in the first quarter of 2005.

The value of Jollibee stock has grown 28 percent since last year, and it was the best-performing domestic stock on the Philippine stock exchange.

Jollibee's business, said Jose Vistan of AB Capital Securities, "will be driven primarily by their expansion in other countries like China and the robust domestic market." Vistan forecasts Jollibee's profit for 2005 at 1.83 billion pesos, a jump of 21 percent from last year.

According to company officials and food experts, Jollibee owes its success to the fact that it respects local tastes. Unlike McDonald's, which was constrained by its obligation to remain faithful to its core products, Jollibee was flexible.

Gene Gonzalez, a restaurateur and food consultant who runs the Center for Asian Culinary Studies based in Manila, said Jollibee adjusted its burger to taste like the meatballs that Filipinos like eating. "Unlike Americans, Filipinos do not like pure beef patties, which can be bland. They like their burgers to taste like meatballs, which are stronger-flavored, with flavor extenders - spices, garlic, onion, celery," he said.

It helped that Jollibee makes sweet spaghetti, which is a turnoff to foreigners but loved by Filipinos, particularly children. It also offers Filipino fare like palabok - vermicelli noodles topped with sauce and fish flakes - and arroz caldo - rice porridge with chicken bits.

"These did not taste fast-foody at all," Gonzalez said. "The Jollibee palabok is decent palabok." Jollibee, he said, has a "good understanding of Filipino culture and taste."

Tence said that as the company expanded to more countries, it would use the same model.

"Initially, our thrust was to target Filipinos overseas, but we learned that targeting Filipinos was simply not enough," he said.

Then there is the culture factor. As part of its strategy to counter the Western image of McDonald's, Jollibee's marketing campaign promoted Filipino values like respect for elders, patriotism and loyalty to the family.

"Jollibee had this big marketing campaign that appealed to Filipino sentiment," Gonzalez said. Instead of running ads in English, as McDonald's did, Jollibee ran ads in Tagalog, the Filipino language.

It may be hard for McDonald's to match that, but it is certainly trying. This year, the McDonald's Philippine franchise became 100 percent Filipino-owned, which gave its owners some flexibility. George Yang, the Filipino-Chinese chairman of Golden Arches Development, the local McDonald's franchisee, now has taken a leaf from Tan Caktiong's book.

Yang said that his full acquisition of the franchise here would enable McDonald's to "give our customers even more by being more sensitive and responsive to their changing tastes and wants and by adding a local flavor to our product range."

MANILA Sometime in the late 1970s, Tony Tan Caktiong, the owner of a small ice cream parlor in a lower- middle-class neighborhood here, learned that an American hamburger chain was coming to invade the Philippines.

Worried that his store, which had just started selling burgers, might get floored by the new competition, Tan Caktiong, a Filipino of Chinese descent, took a leaf from the Chinese military tactician Sun Tzu: he flew to the United States to know his future enemy.

When he returned to the Philippines a few weeks later, Tan Caktiong brought with him an arsenal of ideas on how to fortify his store, called Jollibee, to face the newcomer.

What followed was a classic tale of survival that quickly became a Filipino legend that is now being retold in the country's business schools, often with a tinge of nationalistic pride directed against the U.S. burger chain in question, McDonald's.

Tan Caktiong had no choice but to reinvent Jollibee.

"He was told that either he sold Jollibee to McDonald's or be its franchise holder here. 'They will eat you alive,' his friends told him," said John Victor Tence, vice president for corporate and human resources of Jollibee Foods.

Described by friends as self-effacing and frugal but determined, Tan Caktiong told his friends, "I have a third choice: I can fight McDonald's."

And fight he did, using as weapons the very things that made McDonald's successful: the mascot, the colorful uniforms of the crew, their cheerful greetings, French fries, fried chicken and a burger aimed at Filipino tastes and priced much lower.

"He brought the standards of Jollibee notches higher, at least on par with McDonald's, by basically copying what McDonald's was doing," Tence said.

By the time McDonald's put up its first store here, in 1981, it no longer offered anything new. Jollibee, meanwhile, was already prepared, having opened nine branches and started an aggressive marketing campaign. Jollibee entered the list of the top 1,000 corporations in the Philippines that same year. By 1984, it was in the Top 500 list and dominated the local fast-food market.

The Philippines, The Economist magazine wrote in 2002, "is a huge embarrassment to McDonald's," citing a Taylor Nelson Sofres study showing that Jollibee was the "most often visited" fast-food restaurant in the country.

Jollibee had grown so big and confident that, in 1986, it opened its first store overseas, in Taiwan. It was a sign of things to come. In 1998, Jollibee would encroach on McDonald's home territory, opening its first U.S. store in Daly City, California, which has a large Filipino population.

Today, Jollibee has more than 500 stores in the Philippines and 25 in other countries, selling more than half a million burgers every day. McDonald's has about 250 outlets in the Philippines, according to Cerwin Eviota, a public relations consultant for the chain.

Aside from the United States and Taiwan, Jollibee also has stores in Indonesia, Hong Kong, Saipan and Brunei, as well as in Vietnam, where sales grew 46 percent in the first quarter of 2004.

Jollibee Foods also embarked on an ambitious expansion program domestically and overseas, and not just for its flagship stores.

It bought Chowking, a popular Filipino fast-food chain that sells mainly Chinese food; it is now the dominant Chinese fast-food chain in the Philippines and has even entered the Indonesian market. Jollibee also acquired the local franchise for Delifrance, a French café and bakery chain.

It also bought Greenwich, a small pizza chain that has grown larger in the Philippines than another American giant, Pizza Hut. And it acquired Yonghe King, a fast-food chain in China. All in all, Jollibee Foods has 1,186 stores in nine countries, including 120 in China.

Jollibee is now the largest Filipino food company, with sales of 21.7 billion pesos, or $397 million, in 2004, up 13.7 percent from a year earlier. Sales in the first quarter of 2005 were up almost 20 percent.

Yonghe King sales in China grew 27 percent in the first quarter. All its other stores are doing well, with Delifrance increasing its sales by almost 32 percent in the first quarter of 2005.

The value of Jollibee stock has grown 28 percent since last year, and it was the best-performing domestic stock on the Philippine stock exchange.

Jollibee's business, said Jose Vistan of AB Capital Securities, "will be driven primarily by their expansion in other countries like China and the robust domestic market." Vistan forecasts Jollibee's profit for 2005 at 1.83 billion pesos, a jump of 21 percent from last year.

According to company officials and food experts, Jollibee owes its success to the fact that it respects local tastes. Unlike McDonald's, which was constrained by its obligation to remain faithful to its core products, Jollibee was flexible.

Gene Gonzalez, a restaurateur and food consultant who runs the Center for Asian Culinary Studies based in Manila, said Jollibee adjusted its burger to taste like the meatballs that Filipinos like eating. "Unlike Americans, Filipinos do not like pure beef patties, which can be bland. They like their burgers to taste like meatballs, which are stronger-flavored, with flavor extenders - spices, garlic, onion, celery," he said.

It helped that Jollibee makes sweet spaghetti, which is a turnoff to foreigners but loved by Filipinos, particularly children. It also offers Filipino fare like palabok - vermicelli noodles topped with sauce and fish flakes - and arroz caldo - rice porridge with chicken bits.

"These did not taste fast-foody at all," Gonzalez said. "The Jollibee palabok is decent palabok." Jollibee, he said, has a "good understanding of Filipino culture and taste."

Tence said that as the company expanded to more countries, it would use the same model.

"Initially, our thrust was to target Filipinos overseas, but we learned that targeting Filipinos was simply not enough," he said.

Then there is the culture factor. As part of its strategy to counter the Western image of McDonald's, Jollibee's marketing campaign promoted Filipino values like respect for elders, patriotism and loyalty to the family.

"Jollibee had this big marketing campaign that appealed to Filipino sentiment," Gonzalez said. Instead of running ads in English, as McDonald's did, Jollibee ran ads in Tagalog, the Filipino language.

It may be hard for McDonald's to match that, but it is certainly trying. This year, the McDonald's Philippine franchise became 100 percent Filipino-owned, which gave its owners some flexibility. George Yang, the Filipino-Chinese chairman of Golden Arches Development, the local McDonald's franchisee, now has taken a leaf from Tan Caktiong's book.

Yang said that his full acquisition of the franchise here would enable McDonald's to "give our customers even more by being more sensitive and responsive to their changing tastes and wants and by adding a local flavor to our product range."

MANILA Sometime in the late 1970s, Tony Tan Caktiong, the owner of a small ice cream parlor in a lower- middle-class neighborhood here, learned that an American hamburger chain was coming to invade the Philippines.

Worried that his store, which had just started selling burgers, might get floored by the new competition, Tan Caktiong, a Filipino of Chinese descent, took a leaf from the Chinese military tactician Sun Tzu: he flew to the United States to know his future enemy.

When he returned to the Philippines a few weeks later, Tan Caktiong brought with him an arsenal of ideas on how to fortify his store, called Jollibee, to face the newcomer.

What followed was a classic tale of survival that quickly became a Filipino legend that is now being retold in the country's business schools, often with a tinge of nationalistic pride directed against the U.S. burger chain in question, McDonald's.

Tan Caktiong had no choice but to reinvent Jollibee.

"He was told that either he sold Jollibee to McDonald's or be its franchise holder here. 'They will eat you alive,' his friends told him," said John Victor Tence, vice president for corporate and human resources of Jollibee Foods.

Described by friends as self-effacing and frugal but determined, Tan Caktiong told his friends, "I have a third choice: I can fight McDonald's."

And fight he did, using as weapons the very things that made McDonald's successful: the mascot, the colorful uniforms of the crew, their cheerful greetings, French fries, fried chicken and a burger aimed at Filipino tastes and priced much lower.

"He brought the standards of Jollibee notches higher, at least on par with McDonald's, by basically copying what McDonald's was doing," Tence said.

By the time McDonald's put up its first store here, in 1981, it no longer offered anything new. Jollibee, meanwhile, was already prepared, having opened nine branches and started an aggressive marketing campaign. Jollibee entered the list of the top 1,000 corporations in the Philippines that same year. By 1984, it was in the Top 500 list and dominated the local fast-food market.

The Philippines, The Economist magazine wrote in 2002, "is a huge embarrassment to McDonald's," citing a Taylor Nelson Sofres study showing that Jollibee was the "most often visited" fast-food restaurant in the country.

Jollibee had grown so big and confident that, in 1986, it opened its first store overseas, in Taiwan. It was a sign of things to come. In 1998, Jollibee would encroach on McDonald's home territory, opening its first U.S. store in Daly City, California, which has a large Filipino population.

Today, Jollibee has more than 500 stores in the Philippines and 25 in other countries, selling more than half a million burgers every day. McDonald's has about 250 outlets in the Philippines, according to Cerwin Eviota, a public relations consultant for the chain.

Aside from the United States and Taiwan, Jollibee also has stores in Indonesia, Hong Kong, Saipan and Brunei, as well as in Vietnam, where sales grew 46 percent in the first quarter of 2004.

Jollibee Foods also embarked on an ambitious expansion program domestically and overseas, and not just for its flagship stores.

It bought Chowking, a popular Filipino fast-food chain that sells mainly Chinese food; it is now the dominant Chinese fast-food chain in the Philippines and has even entered the Indonesian market. Jollibee also acquired the local franchise for Delifrance, a French café and bakery chain.

It also bought Greenwich, a small pizza chain that has grown larger in the Philippines than another American giant, Pizza Hut. And it acquired Yonghe King, a fast-food chain in China. All in all, Jollibee Foods has 1,186 stores in nine countries, including 120 in China.

Jollibee is now the largest Filipino food company, with sales of 21.7 billion pesos, or $397 million, in 2004, up 13.7 percent from a year earlier. Sales in the first quarter of 2005 were up almost 20 percent.

Yonghe King sales in China grew 27 percent in the first quarter. All its other stores are doing well, with Delifrance increasing its sales by almost 32 percent in the first quarter of 2005.

The value of Jollibee stock has grown 28 percent since last year, and it was the best-performing domestic stock on the Philippine stock exchange.

Jollibee's business, said Jose Vistan of AB Capital Securities, "will be driven primarily by their expansion in other countries like China and the robust domestic market." Vistan forecasts Jollibee's profit for 2005 at 1.83 billion pesos, a jump of 21 percent from last year.

According to company officials and food experts, Jollibee owes its success to the fact that it respects local tastes. Unlike McDonald's, which was constrained by its obligation to remain faithful to its core products, Jollibee was flexible.

Gene Gonzalez, a restaurateur and food consultant who runs the Center for Asian Culinary Studies based in Manila, said Jollibee adjusted its burger to taste like the meatballs that Filipinos like eating. "Unlike Americans, Filipinos do not like pure beef patties, which can be bland. They like their burgers to taste like meatballs, which are stronger-flavored, with flavor extenders - spices, garlic, onion, celery," he said.

It helped that Jollibee makes sweet spaghetti, which is a turnoff to foreigners but loved by Filipinos, particularly children. It also offers Filipino fare like palabok - vermicelli noodles topped with sauce and fish flakes - and arroz caldo - rice porridge with chicken bits.

"These did not taste fast-foody at all," Gonzalez said. "The Jollibee palabok is decent palabok." Jollibee, he said, has a "good understanding of Filipino culture and taste."

Tence said that as the company expanded to more countries, it would use the same model.

"Initially, our thrust was to target Filipinos overseas, but we learned that targeting Filipinos was simply not enough," he said.

Then there is the culture factor. As part of its strategy to counter the Western image of McDonald's, Jollibee's marketing campaign promoted Filipino values like respect for elders, patriotism and loyalty to the family.

"Jollibee had this big marketing campaign that appealed to Filipino sentiment," Gonzalez said. Instead of running ads in English, as McDonald's did, Jollibee ran ads in Tagalog, the Filipino language.

It may be hard for McDonald's to match that, but it is certainly trying. This year, the McDonald's Philippine franchise became 100 percent Filipino-owned, which gave its owners some flexibility. George Yang, the Filipino-Chinese chairman of Golden Arches Development, the local McDonald's franchisee, now has taken a leaf from Tan Caktiong's book.

Yang said that his full acquisition of the franchise here would enable McDonald's to "give our customers even more by being more sensitive and responsive to their changing tastes and wants and by adding a local flavor to our product range."

Sorry mate, I don't know how else besides being bored that I could read that article.

Back to the question: They've already started to expand, but it hasn't been as successful in California as I thought it would be, given the number of Filipinos there. How many are there? In ratio to the Filipinos in Cali?

They will find it to hit the European market, simply because fast-food isn't highly regarded there.

I dont expect anyone to want to.. sorry I coudve put it much shorter .. :|

maiksi lang naman siya. naulit ulit lang. paki edit na lang siopao. ;)

I remember there was a time that the better-tasting hamburger in the Philippines was Tropical Hut. Is there still Tropical Hut? Also, there was a time before that Jollibee was rumored to have used cultured worms as extenders (wormburger) but the taste became awful. They also used camote for fries. With the coming of McDo, Jollibees food products actually started to taste better.

That's why competition is good because it pushes the companies to produce better products and goods.

I think it is time that Jollibee should expand throughout the world.
This fastfood giant is a bestseller in the country, why can't it make it big abroad too? Expanding a firm internatinally is the whole sense of industrializing. If they are aiming for non-Filipino masses, why not put up chains in Vietnam, China and india? I am sure it will make it big there. If they want to start in developed nations, I hope Jollibee meets the strict health and quality standards. The question of food, it is nice patriotizing local food but I think it would also be a good idea to try to fit in to the country's of their chains. For example, Jolibbee Sushi in Japan and Korea, Jollibee Curry in India and Pakistan, Jollibee chnitzel in Germany. When Jollibee becomes ahuge money earner, it will contribute a lot to the economy, just think of the money it will bring to the Philippine stock markets. Actually there are many Filipino firms that could make it big if they just try. I was actually also thinking of SM and other Philippine firms going global.

what Jollibee is trying to do is Niche Marketing and they have done a great job so far. expanding abroad is not that easy. you have to have a strategy and what jollibee did is to cater to markets where there's a large concentration of filipinos. that explains why they built their international branches in Guam, Daly City, Vallejo, Brunei, HK, etc. in the first place because many filipinos live/work there. attracting the mainstream customers is just an added bonus.

i don't see Jollibee to change tactics in the short-term; in the long run, maybe. for now, i believe they're better off serving their specific target market and just improve their product's quality.

by the way, do jollibees in pinas have Ginataan, Arroz Caldo, Halo-Halo and Pearl Coolers, too? coz the one in Daly City has those.

I dont expect anyone to want to.. sorry I coudve put it much shorter .. :|
You could make it shorter by deleting parts of it, if you look closely, the article repeats itself 3 times.

I'd like to see Red Ribbon expand here but it may be farfetched. I love their pastries. I have not tasted anything close to it even in Italian pastry shops and hotels.

by the way, do jollibees in pinas have Ginataan, Arroz Caldo, Halo-Halo and Pearl Coolers, too? coz the one in Daly City has those.
The Pearl Coolers are great, I love them.

Do you know what happened to the Jolibee in San Francisco? It suddenly disappeared.

@612: yeah i feel bad that they closed it. now i have to go to Daly City if i want jollibee. i guess it wasn't doing well. even their japanese fastfood stores Tomi's Teriyaki near Union Square closed. i guess the newly opened San Jose Jollibee will make up for it.

@ate lili: we have red ribbon over here :D i like their ensemada.

@ Tyronne. Good for you, you have Red Ribbon there. What about Max's chicken? Do you have it in the West Coast too?

^yeah we do! :D but i don't know, i was never a fan of their chicken :ohno:

Lipat na nga ako sa West Coast! :)

I've never seen this thread before, it's very interesting. I don't see why Jollibee food chain can't expand it's business out in the west from North America to the European Union countries. The main thing they have to give in consideration would be if they are really targetting the world market, they should have something that other fast food chain doesn't offer, maybe on their local branches on each countries they were able to open a chain, they needed to redesign their menu or ingredients, it has to be patterned in that particular countrie's culture and hit their local taste buds but I guess they can offer the more authentic Philippine jollibee dishes along side with their new ideas. I believe when I tried McDonalds there in the Philippines it was some what Philippinized but they still kept it's same menu or products, some of them have different names as those you can find in the State side Mckkie-D's. The same thing happened to me in France and UK, the McDonnald's and Burger King there were "UK-ized" and "Frenchized" so to speak. If Jollibee has a real good marketing strategies and their products are very competitive, I don't see why they can't penetrate the world market. It's a bit ambitious but it's doable who knows they can land in rated number 2 best world food chain, although it's not so bad to aim for number one.... Thanks all !!!

Can sum1 tell wat is 'Jolibee'? I think im lost... i suppose to be in the Hong Kong Forums but i couldnt find it.. Please someone tell me where it is .. :lol: is this the Philipines Forum?

I remember there was a time that the better-tasting hamburger in the Philippines was Tropical Hut. Is there still Tropical Hut?


Tropical hut is still there but could not be found on every new malls opened. But they are expanding, some outlets now include a mini supermarket.

http://www.cueshe.com.ph/images/halfemptyhalffull.jpg

Cueshé takes a bold step into the capital and spills out their guts in a rock and roll?kinda way.

This band of 6 adventurous young men have managed to break into the mainstream music scene and maneuvered their way into the capital from their hometown Cebu, betting no less than their lives on this dream.

This dream is now their debut album christened Half Empty, Half Full, and is released under Sony-BMG Music Entertainment. Featuring 11 original tracks, these songs are stories culled from their lives experiences. Its themes interplay melancholy, introspection and transcendence. Perhaps one may find comfort in their songwriting, as it is personal, deep and honest. Their sound is masculine and aggressive, rooted on their rock and alternative influences. It owns up to its pain and angst yet it holds its head high and does not succumb to melodrama. At times it is playful, yet mature like boys trying to be men, or men, who will always, be boys.

It was in Mach 2005 when the band took a leap of faith and moved to Manila to jumpstart a fulltime music career. With nothing more than a demo at hand they proceeded to strike a deal with BMG Records Pilipinas who rushed them to the studio just days from their arrival. And two months after that, they hear their 1st single, Stay, pounding the airwaves.

One may be lead to believe that lady luck had so much to do for these guys, but the band traces its roots back to five years ago when the group 1st got together. We've been through a lot?they say dismissing their story as clich?and prosaic.

And like their name, which seems to be odd, they tell us: Cueshe?(pronounced as Q-shay) comes from the banana cue. We thought of it as a novel idea to come up with a band name from such an ordinary snack food. We used to eat a lot of that after band rehearsals when we stared.?They reveal. They blow their cover on the name, which to some sounded slick and classy.

Cueshe is composed of Jay Justiniani on vocals, Ruben Caballero on vocals and guitar, Jovan Mabini on lead guitar, Jhunjie Dosdos on keyboards, and song writers Fritz Labrado on bass and Mike Manaloto, drums.

I'll be heading to Cebu next month. What are the hottest clubs to visit there today?



Anyway, my top 5 rankings based on readings and previous visits ( Boracay by the way is not a city):


1. Cebu
2: Davao
3: Cagayan de Oro
4: Bacolod
5: Iloilo

CEBU CITY would be the most ideal ENTERTAINMENT and LEISURE destination in the PHILIPPINES OUTBILLING MANILA! Why?

Reasons:::
1. http://www.kontikidivers.com.ph/images/girl_happy.jpg
Cebu is home to all cheap yet clean and good quality bars such as Rica's Sport Cafe or the Cue.

2. Cebu is home to the biggest Nightclubs like Lone Star, Silver Dollar, Firehouse, St. Moritz Bar or Papillion as they provide entertainment for the lonely...

3. If you're looking for fine dining, you'll find Cafe Havana, StarBucks, Table7, Don Henricos, Roma Mia, Gerry's Grill and Cafe Adriatico at Ayala Center Cebu

4. The world class bars, discos and entertainment centers are found here...
a. AYALA CENTER CEBU boasts of:
::Tequila Joe's
::Brix
::Mi Vida
::Ratsky
::Cafe Wien
::E.G.G.

b. SM CITY CEBU boasts of:
::HALO Bar and Restaurant

c. CROSSROADS MALL boasts of:
::The VUDU BAR, the classiest world-class bar in Cebu
::plus more than 10 other pubs and bars

d. THE VILLAGE boasts of:
::The Discos Jukebox
::H2O
::Fuel
::Below Zero
::plus more than 10 other pubs and bars

e. STANDALONE BARS such as:
::Slabadu
::Sinners and Saints
::Camp Z
::Nasa
::Lami-ahh
::Cadillac Cafe
::Sunflower City
::plus many more

f. ENTERTAINMENT NEAR THE BEACH::
::The BayWalk (Ibo, Lapu-lapu City)
::Lami-ahh
::Anton's
::Isla Vida
::Hardrock Cafe

g. SOON TO OPEN NIGHTLIFE SPOTS
::Soon! Cebu Boardwalk
::Soon! Ayala SouthMall Cebu (SRP)

h.PLUS MANY MORE UNMENTIONED BARS

5. But the most anticipated reason is THE PEOPLE and how they JIVE, GROOVE and PARTICIPATE with the BEAT..No crowd in MANILA can be compared to CEBU's CROWD...

Come here and check it out

The spaghetti in Tropical Hut makes Jollibee's inferior. I remember there was one where Greenbelt 4 and the Ayala Museum is now. I think there's still on in Buendia, near MMC and where Mercury Drug is.

is there any chance that jollibee will come to australia theres about 300 thousand or more

Love Jollibee especially there Anjus Burger. Here in San Diego they have 3 outlets and mostly patronize by large Filipinos community. Occasionally there will be some gringos at lost what they want to order. Most of my gringo/a friends are kind of puzzled why our spaghetti is sweet, has cut up hot dog pieces and cheddar cheese on top. I just basically tell them to shut up and eat it, hehehe most of them end up liking it at least that what they tell me. :-)

well, im damn lazy right now to luk upon, but how many jollibee in the whole pnas, or lets say the whole manila because it seems like theres one per person theyre overly scatterd :cheers:

1 and 2... either CEBU OR DAVAO(close fight)

3 and 4... either Bacolod or cdo(nochoice)

5 and 6... olongapo OR gensan(again no choice)

opinion:
CEBU- philippines strongest i think interms of economy
DAVAO- philippines most beautiful city, livability wise and even may bombing still standing tall. highly urbanized but very clean, green and safe.
BACOLOD- though small, very clean and has nice parks
CDO- small davao?
OLONGAPO- hands up! americanized...
GENSAN- baby subic??
ILOILO- sorry pero... masikip ang daan... marumi ang streets
good naman ang economy pero parang uncivilized parn... yun lng... sorry sa mga ilongo...

^:lol:

@michaelsinjin- thanks for the info on cebu

yup may tropical hut pa.. i still love their burgers.. compare to Jollibee's

cool

i don't like food in jollibee save yumburger.

whats that thing that they put in their burgers? its like an orangey stuff.. can someone please what it is? is it an addiction substance? :lol:

guys as far as i remember may mga nag-iinquire sa jollibee to establish this fast food restaurant in europe kaso wala pa sa plano ng jollibee yun focus muna sila sa asia specially sa china.

^they acquired the chinese fastfood Yonghee King something, right? pero magtatayo din ba sila ng Jollibee stores sa mainland?

also, i wish merong Chowking dito sa west coast.

edit: did a research, meron na palang chowking dito. dalawa sa San Diego, pero wala dito sa bay area :(

sya nga pala, sa SM China, meron ding kayang Jollibee don?:D

^they acquired the chinese fastfood Yonghee King something, right? pero magtatayo din ba sila ng Jollibee stores sa mainland?

also, i wish merong Chowking dito sa west coast.

edit: did a research, meron na palang chowking dito. dalawa sa San Diego, pero wala dito sa bay area :(

sya nga pala, sa SM China, meron ding kayang Jollibee don?:D
I've been to Chowking in San Diego. It's so busy. It's inside a supermarket.
I've seen the one at Carson.
I like Chowking b/c it's turo-turo.
But, gawly, our food is so fattening. :)
Luckily, I'm blessed with high metabolism and I work out.

cebu talaga. you get all kinds of parties and events. and there are tiny classy bars dotting the city na hindi masyado magulo at maraming tao but the girls are hotter than those in the bigger bars!

bars --> Brix, Halo, Vudu at the Crossroads, Fuormo, Sunflower City, NASA, The Village - (Courtyard, Yo! Latino), Sinners and Saints

i prefer Kahayag Cafe and bars with bands hehe

slightly off-topic: oo nga, we bisaya-speaking people find it hard to speak tagalog or filipino for that matter since our dialect has a hard intonation. at tsaka, if i may say so myself, english sounds better if spoken by a bisaya compared to a tagalog, hehehe

and oh yeah, Cebu has a diverse culture... and it's the Rasta Capital of the Philippines! ^_^ and it's a fact that Cebuanos are musically hard to please. di kami masyado naa-allure sa mga Manila-based bands. siguro iba lng talaga ang trip. idol ko Jr. Kilat, Urbandub, Burning Culture, Herbs!

slightly off-topic: oo nga, we bisaya-speaking people find it hard to speak tagalog or filipino for that matter since our dialect has a hard intonation. at tsaka, if i may say so myself, english sounds better if spoken by a bisaya compared to a tagalog, hehehe

yeah i can actually sense that visayans do find it hard to speak in tagalog by the way you construct your tagalog sentences. :D

I've been to Chowking in San Diego. It's so busy. It's inside a supermarket.
I've seen the one at Carson.
I like Chowking b/c it's turo-turo.
But, gawly, our food is so fattening. :)
Luckily, I'm blessed with high metabolism and I work out.

The Chow King in Carson is also packed with Pinoys, heck, Carson is already run by Pinoys! :lol:

it doesnt need to adapt to another nation's taste. if that happens, that's business suicide. the reason they can put up a store in another country is because of the Filipino. it's also a symbol of Filipino entrepreneurship and success. give me another Asian fastfood company that matches to Jollibee's success. if they change the food they'd lose even filipino customers. it's like starting from scratch by enticing new customers. why put up in america when you can put up in Asia? expand like San Miguel Corporation.. hehe after all, Jollibee Corp. owns Chow King, Greenwich and Philippine franchise of Delifrance.

jollibee has stores in Guam(2), Saipan(1), Brunei(5), HK(1), Vietnam(3), California(10).. so im not sure with the Filipino taste thing. it's probably an asian thing since i doubt if Filipinos reside in communist vietnam. hehe

I think the problem with Jollibee catering to foreigners is that the food looks extremely familiar but the food tastes very differently. Like for example the spaghetti is sweet, the burger is spicy. I can't imagine what an Italian person for example would think after receiving a plateful of Jolli-spaghetti which almost looks like its original version but has a taste that is out of this world. I love it. I just had it this afternoon.

The food styling or descriptions of Jollibee foods may have to change to temper customers expectations and make them aware that what they are eating is not the usual burger. I am sure the more exotic looking Jollibee standards: shanghai rolls, palabok, ice craze, barbecue, mango-caramel sundae, peach-mango pie should cross over properly. That said, I am not whether I will ever see non-Filipinos eating a cheese ice cream sundae.

Jollibee has stores in Guam(2), Saipan(1), Brunei(5), HK(1), Vietnam(3), California(10).. so im not sure with the Filipino taste thing. it's probably an asian thing since i doubt if Filipinos reside in communist vietnam. hehe

I would think that "Vietnoys" (Vietnamese that are naturalized Filipinos) would frequent Jollibees in Vietnam when they go visit their country of origin. :)

That said, I am not whether I will ever see non-Filipinos eating a cheese ice cream sundae.

Why not? There is an ice cream store here, Stone Cold Creamery, that serves Ginger Wasabe Ice Cream, Pickle Ice Cream, Licorice, Cereals and other unlikely flavors. And they're hits. If you watch the Iron Chef on the Food network on cable, they even serve raw fish ice cream and the judges at first incredulous would like the taste (no fishy flavor).

Raw fish ice cream, no thank you :D

Sushi ice cream or "daing/tuyo" ice cream? :lol:

^Yaiks! I've tried tempura ice cream in the PHil. though.

OFF TOPIC:

Sushi ice cream or "daing/tuyo" ice cream? :lol:

with a choice of patis or bagoong dipping. Why not balot ice cream complete with silvery black down? ugh. :puke: :lol:

Oh yes!
My kids loved Jollibee when we were last there a couple of years ago. It would make a fortune in England :cheers:

ILOILO- sorry pero... masikip ang daan... marumi ang streets
good naman ang economy pero parang uncivilized parn... yun lng... sorry sa mga ilongo...
uncivilized? lol :)

Uncivilized (adj.) - not showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; not humane, ethical, and reasonable

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/chymera00/iloilocitypics/iloilobanner.jpg

The Hiligaynons of Western Visayas particularly it's founding city IloIlo is in fact the most civilized people in the Philippines. They speak it, they act it, without appearing like a show-off.

The Western Visayas region has one of the lowest crime rate in the Philippines. Vigilantes are unheard of because there's no need for it. Gambling is not rampant also. I never heard of an illegal drug factory and dynamite factory in IloIlo. The Ilonggos are non-confrontational except when there's a dire need for it. The Ilonggos have already attained their civilized character since the mid-1800's when most Europeans settled and built businesses there and the civilized characters snowballed to the native Ilonggo population. And also, IloIlo has many of the oldest and brightest universities in the Philippines; UP IloILo, WV University, CPU, San Agustin, what else Chymera?...therefore many Ilonggos are highly educated.

Prostitution is not rampant in IloIlo also. Girly bars have not proliferated the city, thank goodness. I never heard anybody complain about child-prostitution in IloIlo. Ilonggos take care fo their children and send them to schools.

by sandrin
The Hiligaynons of Western Visayas particularly it's founding city IloIlo is in fact the most civilized people in the Philippines. They speak it, they act it, without appearing like a show-off.

.... ok ok ok, iloilo has one of my vote, so whats ur top ten???? u didnt stick to the topic eh

mine would be

1. on top of the pack - CEBU!!!!!! could rival manila, sometimes mas better pa ang concepts!!!!
2. davao

They should start raiding the Northeast of the U.S... I would be the first in line if they put one up in New York eheheh

I hope that other nationalities would like the flavors of our Jollibee.
But most foreigners at first do not like Jollibee sphagetti but after trying them , they had acquired the taste !

:cheers: I hope that other nationalities like the menu of our Jollibee.
Some foreigners at first do not like Jollibee sphagetti but after trying them , they had acquired the taste !
They also like our Palabok , Peach mango pie, Buko pinya pie and Arroz Caldo

That sweet spaghetti really suprises foreigners. :colgate:

That sweet spaghetti really suprises foreigners. :colgate:
I just had the opportunity to eat in one of the Jollibees here in the US (the one in Union City at the Bay Area) and the first thing I got was the Spaghetti and Chickenjoy combo...and aw man the spaghetti was as great as when I last ate in a Jollibee back in 03. :D Decided to buy a bunch of Peach-Mango pies for me to take to the flight back to LA. XD

I go to the Jollibee near my house every month. Most of its customers are Filipino and so are its employees. It needs to remove the Filipino image before it can become a major fast food restaurant. I think they should keep the spaghetti in the menu but they should have an Italian style along side with the Manila version. Their burgers need a lot of work, especially the really basic ones (hamburger and cheese burger). The chicken on the other hand should be left alone. That's some good stuff. haha

Chickenjoy is the best!

i dunno but i never liked jollibee's chicken and spaghetti. but i do love the pies!

I only like their Peach-Mango Pie. I'm not sure if I like their other pies.

Is it true that Jollibee is expanding in India. I'm not sure in what newspaper I read it. I think Jollibee should target the nearby Southeast Asian Markets first for logistical practicalities. They should start on building their brand in this area especially in the less competitive but with high potential areas like Vietnam and Indonesia. They can also taylor their menu to suit the market's preference. It would also be good for them to stop their publicity of being the Filipino brand that beats McDonalds especially if its in a different country. And I hope I would be seeing a Television Advertisement for Jollibee that is shown in a foreign market, say Indonesia. And lastly franchise more outlets.

Is it true that Jollibee is expanding in India. I'm not sure in what newspaper I read it. I think Jollibee should target the nearby Southeast Asian Markets first for logistical practicalities. They should start on building their brand in this area especially in the less competitive but with high potential areas like Vietnam and Indonesia. They can also taylor their menu to suit the market's preference. It would also be good for them to stop their publicity of being the Filipino brand that beats McDonalds especially if its in a different country. And I hope I would be seeing a Television Advertisement for Jollibee that is shown in a foreign market, say Indonesia. And lastly franchise more outlets.


I've read somewhere that they already have two stores in Indonesia.

I've found Jollibee's (http://www.jollibee.com.ph/corporate/history3.htm) website. A lot of info about their expansion outside the country.

I only like their Peach-Mango Pie. I'm not sure if I like their other pies.
Have you tried Buko-Pina? I thought it was good. :D

Yeah, tried every other pie, but I'd still go for the original Jollibee pie, the Peach-Mango pie.

I've read somewhere that they already have two stores in Indonesia.

They only have one now. Two stores closed and one opened:D
Jollibee in Indonesia really sucks though. Its not the same quality as Jollibee back home. Jollibee should really work on quality control outside the philippines.

They only have one now. Two stores closed and one opened:D
Jollibee in Indonesia really sucks though. Its not the same quality as Jollibee back home. Jollibee should really work on quality control outside the philippines.

Same here in LA, more specifically, the one in Eaglerock. Their burgers didn't taste anywhere as good as the ones I remembered eating in the Philippines. On opening day, their chicken was a bit salty and but finally improved a few month had passed.

^^ Maybe because Americans are particular with their taste and want a healthy lifestyle, therefore they may serve some low-sodium, low-carb, zero calorie and sugar-free options. :lol:

i like tuna pie.

The Hiligaynons of Western Visayas particularly it's founding city IloIlo is in fact the most civilized people in the Philippines. They speak it, they act it, without appearing like a show-off.

The Western Visayas region has one of the lowest crime rate in the Philippines. Vigilantes are unheard of because there's no need for it. Gambling is not rampant also. I never heard of an illegal drug factory and dynamite factory in IloIlo. The Ilonggos are non-confrontational except when there's a dire need for it. The Ilonggos have already attained their civilized character since the mid-1800's when most Europeans settled and built businesses there and the civilized characters snowballed to the native Ilonggo population. And also, IloIlo has many of the oldest and brightest universities in the Philippines; UP IloILo, WV University, CPU, San Agustin, what else Chymera?...therefore many Ilonggos are highly educated.

Prostitution is not rampant in IloIlo also. Girly bars have not proliferated the city, thank goodness. I never heard anybody complain about child-prostitution in IloIlo. Ilonggos take care fo their children and send them to schools.


Okay enough... I'm in Iloilo right now and I'm checking the place out.....
calling Iloilo uncivilized was uncalled for.... but , yes the roads are small and dirty... not to mention the river... but it does have its strenghts...

... oh btw,.. I'm shocked at the way the people here are preserving old american neo-classical buildings built before the war.... tiangge!! machine shops!! start restoring this architectural jewels.. and not use it as a downtown divisoria.. do what they did in macau,.. where the old colonial buidings were preserved and placed with well to do-shops like mcdonalds , starbucks... and all that...

Iloilo was heavily built in the american city beautiful concept.... please put some grass in the hispanic colonial parks,... trees on the avenues,... and lamposts restore the lamposts,.. put the fountains back to work ....

oh and dear me...

dont forget dumaguete... hey its a college town,....
and it has rizal boulevard,.... go there I aint describin it... but youll fall in love with it's night life...;

Prostitution is not rampant in IloIlo also. Girly bars have not proliferated the city, thank goodness. I never heard anybody complain about child-prostitution in IloIlo. Ilonggos take care fo their children and send them to schools.

what!!... (sigh) Ill leave now... :bash:

Jollibee to Acquire Red Ribbon Bakeshop (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=14211)

www.abs-cbnnews.com

^^ yeah! it already has Greenwich for pizza, Chowking for Fil-Chi food, Delifrance for pasta, and then Red Ribbon for pastries. Will jollibee acquire penshoppe for wardrobe, or maybe SM para all around na? hehe

It's acquiring Red Ribbon? I hope that they will maintain the authentic Red Ribbon taste. I miss its Black Forest Cake, Mango Creme Pie, Chocolate Angel Pie, Ube Cake, Strawberry Shortcake, etc. etc. Also its dinuguan, lumpia sariwa and palabok. (daydreaming about food)

This food conglomerate is becoming stronger and stronger. I hope Goldilocks holds up.

Jollibee acquires Red Ribbon
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
The Philippine Star 08/25/2005

In line with its goal to be a major global food service company, fastfood giant Jollibee Foods Corp. is acquiring 100 percent of the cake and pastry restaurant chain, Red Ribbon Bakeshop, which has branches in the United States.

In a disclosure to the Philippine Stock Exchange, Jollibee said it has reached an agreement with the owners of Red Ribbon to acquire the latter’s 147 outlets – 131 in the Philippines and 16 in California, USA. The purchase price was not immediately known.

In its last fiscal year ending June 30 this year, Red Ribbon registered revenues of P2.5 billion.

Based on Red Ribbon’s latest available financial statement, its net income stood at P13.4 million in its fiscal year ending April 30, 2004. Net sales registered at P874.3 million while total assets reached P277.2 million. The company changed its accounting period from fiscal year ending April 30 to fiscal year ending June in accordance with tax interim reporting purposes.

"The proposed transaction, however, is subject to the completion of a final due diligence and the execution of the final sale and purchase agreement," Jollibee said.

Red Ribbon started in 1979 out of a home kitchen and is known for its affordable but good quality cakes and pastries. It also serves popular Filipino dishes and confectionaries.

Jollibee said the Red Ribbon chain will complement its existing operations of 1,079 stores comprised of 508 Jollibee restaurants, 310 Chowking Oriental fastfood stores, 228 Greenwich pizza/pasta restaurants, and 33 Delifrance stores.

Jollibee also has 121 stores abroad, which include 88 Yonghe King stores in China.

Jollibee, which had total revenues of P26.2 billion or $468 million in 2004 and has been expanding its foreign operations, expects Red Ribbon to boost its revenues.

The company said Red Ribbon Bakeshop will be a valuable synergistic member of the Jollibee family and looks forward to continuing to delight Red Ribbon Bakeshop customers with affordable and great-tasting cakes and other products in the future.

In the second quarter, Jollibee’s net earnings grew 26.8 percent to P536.2 million, helped by price adjustments and cost improvements that improved sales margins.

Its first half net profit, however, rose a slower 11.1 percent to P894.6 million as a result of the 6.5 percent contraction in the first quarter’s bottom line.

Consolidated sales, which include revenues from franchised outlets, rose 12 percent to P10.2 billion in the second quarter and climbed 13 percent to P19.2 billion in the first half.

The anchor Jollibee brand is one of the most well-known and strongest consumer brands in the country, serving burgers and crispy chicken. Chowking serves Oriental food while Greenwich is one of the leading players in the pizza-pasta market. Delifrance, on the other hand, is a significant player in the French bakery-café segment.

After invading Indonesia, Jollibee is setting its global sights on India as the next site for its expansion.

Jollibee continues to look for opportunities in other foreign markets to sustain growth in its sales. It is also looking at other businesses in the local scene for possible acquisitions as it aims to further boost its cashflow.

For this year, Jollibee has set aside P1.5 billion for the establishment of between 80 to 100 new stores locally and overseas. Of this amount, P200 million has been earmarked for the construction of 20 new Yonghe King stores in China and 10 in the US and other international markets, including Hong Kong, Saipan, Brunei, as well as in Vietnam.

Of the new stores to be opened within the Philippines this year, 20 are Jollibee stores, 30 Chowking and 20 Greenwich.

Sheer genius!

I hope that Jollibee does not tinker with the formula of Red Ribbon. Some of their cakes are head over heels better than their cross-town competition, Goldilocks.

It would also be great to have promotional tie-ins. Red Ribbon (tm) buns for Jollibee hamburgers.

Good deal for them, they'll be able to expand this overseas much easier than jollibee which has a distinctly filipino taste. I understand that a big proportion of red ribbons sales are in SoCal where it's a hit with the Hispanics as well!

Am happy for them this is one filipino company with good people and values that we can really be proud of.

Sheer genius!

It would also be great to have promotional tie-ins. Red Ribbon (tm) buns for Jollibee hamburgers.

yah.. I'll be waiting for their "chocolate-flavored regular yums" lolz!

this is really good. I love Red Ribbon cakes! better (but more expensive) than goldilocks...

hmmm...I wonder what's the new look of Red Ribbon gonna be...

yah.. I'll be waiting for their "chocolate-flavored regular yums" lolz!
yipee! pero, masarap kaya un? :?: :D

hmmm...I wonder what's the new look of Red Ribbon gonna be...

They might change it to Yellow Ribbon(as in ooh tie a yellow ribbon...) to complement the color of The Bee!LOL

OMFG... I went to Manila and tried this Jollibee of yours and it TASTES SOOOooOOo Great!!! I just wanna eat those spaghetti with fried chicken! omgoshness, the chesse melts on my mouth! Now im gonna miss all that :( I wish they had it here in New York.. :( .. but someone did put up a "fake" Jollibee franchise and i thougt it was real >(

i reckon it will still be the same.. jollibee didn't changed the look of chowking, delifrance and greenwich.. they did change the chicken recipe and added jollibee's chixjoy recipe to chowking and greenwich.. so expect a chicken joy cake at red ribbon! hahaha

hmmm...I wonder what's the new look of Red Ribbon gonna be...

yipee! pero, masarap kaya un? :?: :D

waaah.. weird siguro ang lasa... oh man, now I'm craving for their mushroom cheese burger...

Red Ribbon is a trademark so they better not change it, as well as the formulas/recipes for the cakes and pastries.

not to worry , they won't , otherwise why would they ahve bought it!

Red Ribbon is a trademark so they better not change it, as well as the formulas/recipes for the cakes and pastries.

What is Red Ribbon? :?

^^ Red Ribbon Bakeshop started as a bakeshop that served delicious cakes, pastries and other food products. Due to its popularity, it expanded into a chain of restaurants cum pastry shops that serves these delicacies. The brand is identified with its trademark of letterings that appear to be made out of red ribbon.

^^ but not all their cakes are good, we tried one during my cuz's bday, & the icing was too gooey & uhh, i was upset coz weve been goldilocks' loyal patrons eversince, but after we tried RR's once, we nevr tried buying one again :( kaya balik kami sa Goldilocks

It depends on the cake. Red Ribbon, their chocolate rolls and mango rolls are amazing.

Goldilocks tastes a little too buttery (or fake-buttery) for me.

let me try that choco rolls, i'l see...

but i like its buttery taste, whether its genuine or faje doesnt concern me.

It's acquiring Red Ribbon? I hope that they will maintain the authentic Red Ribbon taste. I miss its Black Forest Cake, Mango Creme Pie, Chocolate Angel Pie, Ube Cake, Strawberry Shortcake, etc. etc. Also its dinuguan, lumpia sariwa and palabok. (daydreaming about food)

This food conglomerate is becoming stronger and stronger. I hope Goldilocks holds up.

Red Ribbon vs Goldilocks hhmmnn I have tried the Chicken Empanada of both establishments and I find Goldilocks to be better. As far as pastries and cakes, I grew up with Goldilocks so it has my vote on this as well. We have Goldilocks here in Las Vegas and they have some of the best Philippine dishes I have eaten, it's freshly made and not sitting on a buffet table. The best are Pansit Palabok, Lumpiang Sariwa, Lechon Manok (chicken cooked all the way to the bone) last thing I want is to eat bloodied fried chicken. The Beef Mami noodles with siomai is good as well.

As far as pastries, cakes and other delicacies, young coconut pie is good, my nephews loved it same with their Mocha Pianono. I brought some Sans Rival/Sylvanna at work one time and my American co workers loved it.

^^ Delectable! For Sans Rival cake, Goldilock's is sans rival. Except there used to be a bakery before called Mercedes with their own version of Mercedes' Sans Rival. Well, I still prefer Goldilocks.

I dont really fancy Goldilocks that much... except for their varieties of Polvoron... and I think Goldilocks is putting itself more as a pinoy food resto than a pastry shop (reason why their pinoy food is superb!). Red Ribbon on the other hand is more focused with their cakes and pastries, that's why they have an edge over goldies on these...

if they spand their hotdog for another 6 inches, i think they will expand, get me :bowtie:

Goldilocks still have their Mamon, Ensaimada, Brownies, Pastillas, Polvoron, and so many varieties of pastries. Their Braso de Mercedez is still to die for but I noticed in their Las Vegas branch, they have the delicacies like puto, kutsinta, bibingka, buko pie, even Tamarind. The kids love their made to order cakes with all the toys and trimmings.

Bottom line, Im glad Goldilocks is here. I can have my Chicken Empanada and Sans Rival whenever I please. Goldilocks is a tradition amongst Philippine families, that's tough to beat.

Whatever happened to Joni's Bakery?

if they spand their hotdog for another 6 inches, i think they will expand, get me :bowtie:

Hotdogs are disgusting especially if they are black! Get it?

Suggestions for Jollibee:::

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They should serve footlong hotdogs
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(more suggestions later...go muna ko Jollibee! hehe :))

Yes, certainly. Jollibee should have more innovations...
Look at McDonald's now... It would look like they're tryhards but they're not...
Have you tasted that ano ba yun...ah Coke Shake? ('yung ice cream na may coke?)
'yuck sya at first.

Saturday, September 03, 2005
Fire and drums at The Liquid
By Jojie Alcantara
Witerary

LIFE's a beach! So goes the encouraged attire and atmosphere, as Apo View Hotel's Liquid Bar and GenTXT brought Davao's favorite drumbeaters, the Gruppo Tribale (formerly La Carlota Drumbeaters) to another sensational party called Fire and Drums, that spilled over to the Garden Court under a hot evening sky.

Guests and fashionistas came in various sexy summer outfits, from beachwear to eye-catching accessories.

With music pulsating from a stage setup in the garden, booze were overflowing as complimentary Cruzan rum drinks as well as your favorite San Miguel Beer were passed around.

The crowd was unbelievably hot and wild, as everyone danced the night away, drenched from a humid night, but enjoying the sweat nonetheless.

While one could get a temporary henna and glimmer tattoo, fire dancing was also a highlight as the night went on.

Another salute to the talented Gruppo Tribale, whose expertise on drums and percussions never fails to sweep the crowd wild.

Check out the hot photos! (More photos in her website www.witerary.com, or email witty@info.com.ph)

if they spand their hotdog for another 6 inches, i think they will expand, get me :bowtie:

lol

o my god, I like Harbour Dimsum's Siomai!!

One reason Red Ribbon was a more interesting buy than Goldilocks for Jollibee was that they have stores which have higher percentage sales to NON FILIPINOS than goldilocks. This is specially true in southern cal.

over here in oz mcdonalds has a menu that has less than 10grams of fat. i want a jolibee here but not long now to wait to eat it there in 11weeks.

What Jollibee adopts really becomes successful...
See Greenwich and Chowking?
Before Jollibee adopted them, they were undoubtedly a flop...
But when Jollibee adopted them, these stores were reinvented and look at them now!

Jollibee should expand their empire to the world..
Well who knows?
The world might grab Jollibee but if not, then Jollibee'd reinvent. :)

if jollibee inc. will be liquid enough to expand... or if more franchisers come...

When will Jollibee plan to build one in Europe? Ang daming Pinoy na rito ... baka pwede na?

franchise it wecky... then it'll open

When will Jollibee plan to build one in Europe? Ang daming Pinoy na rito ... baka pwede na?
^^ oo nga, have all your OFW friends to invest in a franchise :)

My stomach handles jollibee better than McDo. I haven't eaten fast food though for about 6-7 years, so jollibee has broken the record for me.

Sarap nung bagong fries ng Jollibe. Yung, Cheezy fries na may Double Cheese, and Cheese and Ground Beef variants.

^ Sounds good...

I haven't tasted those new fries....

Here's a suggestion for jollibee: go invest in the coffe shop business... like what mcdonald's did... they were threatened by starbucks so they made McCafe

^^ Is that only in the Phillippines? I haven't seen a McCafe here in the US yet. :dunno:

^^ Is that only in the Phillippines? I haven't seen a McCafe here in the US yet. :dunno:


Me neither....

^^ I haven't seen any of those McCafes in NY either. But, I have been weaning myself from coffee and fastfood lately, so I don't know if there is a barista nook in any of those McDos. If so, they would have to modify the decor if they want to create a coffee bar ambience. Wait, come to think of it, the McDo in Times Square has this coffee corner that serves just coffee and cookies located beside the main order counter. In the inner dining area is where you can access computers lined up against the wall. If this is a McCafe, no way is that gonna compete with a Starbucks cafe. I rarely see people order coffee there.

^^ I haven't seen any of those McCafes in NY either. But, I have been weaning myself from coffee and fastfood lately, so I don't know if there is a barista nook in any of those McDos. If so, they would have to modify the decor if they want to create a coffee bar ambience. Wait, come to think of it, the McDo in Times Square has this coffee corner that serves just coffee and cookies located beside the main order counter. In the inner dining area is where you can access computers lined up against the wall. If this is a McCafe, no way is that gonna compete with a Starbucks cafe. I rarely see people order coffee there.


Mikkie-D does serve coffee but it's not as good as the ones in places like Starbucks, Churchills and mudhouse cafe...

Man, SSC is acting weird on me today, each time i post a comment and clicked send or submit, it always give me a prompt saying that my post was submitted in duplicate and when I check it, it was okay. So odd....

I got that before, too. Can be irritating at times but just persist.

Mikkie-D does serve coffee but it's not as good as the ones in places like Starbucks, Churchills and mudhouse cafe...

They do, but if you buy it at the main counter, you get the average coffee. If you buy it at the barrista, you can order gourmet variety.

I see, never reached the midwest yet I guess. It's all good, i'm just a black coffee type of guy, I don't need no gourmet coffee or anything fancy. Well, except fraffochino....

I'm not from the mid-west but from the east coast. :) Yeah fraffochino is my coffee of choice, too.

Oh sorry about that, you meant McCafe has not reached the midwest.

Goldilocks still have their Mamon, Ensaimada, Brownies, Pastillas, Polvoron, and so many varieties of pastries. Their Braso de Mercedez is still to die for but I noticed in their Las Vegas branch, they have the delicacies like puto, kutsinta, bibingka, buko pie, even Tamarind. The kids love their made to order cakes with all the toys and trimmings.

Bottom line, Im glad Goldilocks is here. I can have my Chicken Empanada and Sans Rival whenever I please. Goldilocks is a tradition amongst Philippine families, that's tough to beat.

Whatever happened to Joni's Bakery?
Joni's bakery they have the best cakes and cream puffs. I think they still have one in pasong tamo Makati.

There are ALOT of pinoys here in Toronto... and there are ALOT of fake Jollibee's here either! :ohno:

Joni's bakery they have the best cakes and cream puffs. I think they still have one in pasong tamo Makati.

Oh, they still have Joni's? There was a big one in Manila, right? Is that one still there?

There are ALOT of pinoys here in Toronto... and there are ALOT of fake Jollibee's here either! :ohno:

I didn't know they have fake Jollibees there.

I don't know about the one in Manila but the one in Makati pasong tamo is still there. I love their cakes their icing's not too sweet just perfect.

I didn't know they have fake Jollibees there.

yes there are ... it's mostly convenience stores... LOL! own by Filipinos obviously..

I'm not from the mid-west but from the east coast. :) Yeah fraffochino is my coffee of choice, too.

Oh sorry about that, you meant McCafe has not reached the midwest.


That's right, no McCafe down here in midwest Lili. What do you expect? it's all the Hillbilly state and hicktown territories where you would only see the most white towns and cities...LOL

I didn't know they have fake Jollibees there.

They have a fake Jollibee in Jakarta, i think...it sure tastes fake. And the logo and Jollibee was really messed up

They have a Jollibean (pastry) shop here in SG... I also think they got the name from Jollibee... even the logo is the same... :bash:

I hope they could open a few more Jollibees out here in Southern California. On my way to Pacific Media Expo 2005 in Long Beach, I decided to stop by the Carson Jollibee and it was definitely worth the longer ride through public transportation. :D Of course I made sure to get a couple Buko Pina pies before I left. ;)

hongkong have 3 jollibee but sad to say the food is not as good as in phil......dont know why?

^^ Is that only in the Phillippines? I haven't seen a McCafe here in the US yet. :dunno:

that's funny ... they already opened one in bacolod.... it's stuck with a mcdonalds branch and a happy meal museum... the place looks too classy and too big to be an ordinary mcdonalds....

all I know is... there are only three branches in the phils... one in makati, in libis at QC and one in lacson st. bacolod city :)

^^ Must be a regional thing then, not being test-marketed globally.

^ I think they're testing one in Illinois, but I'm not sure.

^ I think their testing one in Illinois, but I'm not sure.

they have jollibee in IL??? Is that in Chicago? I'll check it out even if I am not really into jollibee foods, i've tried them, they're alright to me....

^^ Sorry no. misunderstanding. I meant they might be testing a McCafe in Illinois.

Its only in the Philippines where i've seen McCafe.

jollibee palabok is good.

asar yang palabok na yan.. kahapon nagpa deliver kami kahapon.. aba.. pagka konti konti.. parang dalawang kutsarang noodles lang..

jollibee palabok is good.

they have McCafe in Sydney..

Its only in the Philippines where i've seen McCafe.

If you'll notice Jollibee has changed its global strategy. It used to target places where most Pinoys are found - Middle East, Europe & the US. However, Jollibee realized that building a brand (and a strong one/market leader) in Asia will make it easier for Jollibee to penetrate the West. Remember ASIA is hot right now. Everything big in Asia (think China) is a hit in the West. So Jollibee is setting its sights on China, Indonesia and Vietnam. Closer to home. On the question of Jollibee making it big-time globally, I have no doubt about that. It's only a matter of time.

they really should do that...

YES! :D

The success of Jollibee is one of the things that make me truly proud as a Pinoy... there's also Bench, Movement 8, San Miguel, Figaro...

^^ Yes. More success to Filipino enterpreneurship!

Lili, have you heard of Monique Lhuillier? She's a Cebuana and I read from the Philippine Tatler that she's making it bigtime in the American fashion scene.

Did you watch the recent Manny Pacquiao boxing match? That was awesome.

How about Cecil Mamiit? Know him? He's a pro Fil-Am tennis player. Dorothy Delasin and Jen Rosales are both making it good at the fairways.

And have you seen our own president last week presiding during a Security Council meeting? Truly something to be proud of. The first Asian to do so, the first woman leader and the first for a Philippine president. Now that's a big wow!

Does Jollibee have international branches already? I heard of some but I just want to clarify. :)

they have McCafe in Sydney..

here in singapore, we have mc cafe too..but only in selected mc donalds branches..

Does Jollibee have international branches already? I heard of some but I just want to clarify. :)

yes they have international operations in the US, Brunei, Hong Kong and Vietnam..

too bad their Singapore branch did not succeed here in SG...heard from my friends who'd been here in SG when Jollibee was still around ( more than 6 years ago), the reason was the store's location...if it was well positioned like in Lucky Plaza (Orchard), it would be a different story..

Bring back Jollibee in SG...Am sure it will be a blast!

Lili, have you heard of Monique Lhuillier? She's a Cebuana and I read from the Philippine Tatler that she's making it bigtime in the American fashion scene.

Did you watch the recent Manny Pacquiao boxing match? That was awesome.

How about Cecil Mamiit? Know him? He's a pro Fil-Am tennis player. Dorothy Delasin and Jen Rosales are both making it good at the fairways.

And have you seen our own president last week presiding during a Security Council meeting? Truly something to be proud of. The first Asian to do so, the first woman leader and the first for a Philippine president. Now that's a big wow!

Oh yes! Monique Lhuillier-- she is one of the hot designers in the US who is very popular among celebrities. I'm sure you know she designed Britney Spear's wedding dress as well as the gown of the bride of Kevin Costner. Her creations are seen on red carpets donned by big-time celebrities such as Sarah Jessica Parker, Diane Lane, Angelina Jolie, among others. Even her own mom, cannot afford her gowns and dresses.

Jen Rosales had earned the monicker of J.Ro and is very popular in the golf world. I read her in the New York Post sports section. I'm not that familiar with Dorothy Delasin and Cecil Mamiit but I will keep my ears open for their names. I must admit that Pacquiao and GMA have earned accolades in their respective forays here in the US.

Now, how do I connect this to Jollibee? Oh yeah, hooray for Filipino ventures!

There are ALOT of pinoys here in Toronto... and there are ALOT of fake Jollibee's here either! :ohno:

They have a fake Jollibee in Jakarta, i think...it sure tastes fake. And the logo and Jollibee was really messed up

They have a Jollibean (pastry) shop here in SG... I also think they got the name from Jollibee... even the logo is the same... :bash:

I wonder what Jollibee is doing to protect their trademark and franchise. It seems a lot of fakes are sprouting all over the world. I guess now it is more expensive for them to pursue trademark infringement cases against these fakes but if their global marketing strategy is to build brand recognition, then they have to start thinking about this and pursuing it more aggressively.

Oh yes! Monique Lhuillier-- she is one of the hot designers in the US who is very popular among celebrities. I'm sure you know she designed Britney Spear's wedding dress as well as the gown of the bride of Kevin Costner. Her creations are seen on red carpets donned by big-time celebrities such as Sarah Jessica Parker, Diane Lane, Angelina Jolie, among others. Even her own mom, cannot afford her gowns and dresses.

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Amparito Lhuillier not being able to afford a gown?? now I've seen everything... maybe she should ask her sister for money.. :runaway:

I wonder what Jollibee is doing to protect their trademark and franchise.

me 2 :ohno:

Bakit may fake jollibee naba. pambihira talaga, pati yumberger finafake!

Tessa! : A-1 adventures at the Ad Congress

First posted 05:48am (Mla time) Nov 27, 2005
By Tessa Prieto-Valdes
Inquirer News Service



Editor's Note: Published on page D2 of the November 27, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

ATHENA’S VERY FIRST plane ride went without a hitch.

It was a lucky day for all of us. We were upgraded to Class A, according to my son, Tyrone. The wonderful PAL agent must have taken pity on me, traveling with two kids and a baby, assisted by my jewel of a nanny, Juvy, of course. With the plane so full, he still found a way to sit all of us together, which was great as I was nursing seven-month-old Athena.

My kids got to do a photo op with the pilots before takeoff. Seven-year-old Annika was amazed with the many switches in the cockpit and wondered how the pilots knew which buttons to press. She could only compare it to her Game Boy with six knobs. They were so excited with the chairs that fully reclined to almost a full stretch. Athena, on the other hand, was just curious trying to figure out what was going on.

We were all headed for Cebu for the Ad Congress! Inquirer was a major sponsor, so my husband, Dennis, flew in ahead with the other attendees. I just flew in for the Inquirer party and Araw Awards that weekend. All the creative minds of the advertising world were at the Waterfront Hotel, honoring the top print, radio and TV commercials.

At the airplane-inspired party, Inquirer CEO and my little sis, Sandy Romualdez, launched Inquirer Compact, the new, mid-sized Inquirer edition. I am sure this will be just as successful as the innovative tabloid, Libre.

Before they raffled off a trip to Cannes, the comic group The Spit gave a really hilarious program. The mascots of Inquirer and Cebu Daily News—Guyito and Siloy—also stole the show.

Anchorwoman Veronica Pedrosa hosted the main Araw Awards right after the Inquirer party. I could almost hear her saying, “This is CNN.” Her heavy British accent is her distinctive trademark.

The Araw Awards are always fun. I remember awarding one category at the last Ad Congress in Baguio, with my trademark outrageous sun outfit by fab designer Rajo Laurel.

Unlike previous Ad Congresses where there were countless celebrities of both ABS-CBN and GMA7 milling around, this year had less parties and events. One exciting show-biz feature was the press conference of the former housemates of the ABS-CBN hit reality TV show, “Pinoy Big Brother,” at the Casino Filipino.

‘Pinoy Big Brother’ craze

A few weeks back, I was invited by Metro Magazine of ABS-CBN Publishing to check out the behind-the-scenes action at the PBB set. Annika was so excited, she asked me if she and her cousins could tag along. Clueless about the show, I was amazed to learn what a phenomenon PBB had become.

The housemates are to complete 111 days without contact with the outside world and learn to co-exist until they get voted out. They should come up with a PBB Congress! The whole house is surrounded by cameras, recording everything 24/7 and edited for the daily one-hour show.

At the end of the tour, evictee Sam Milby happened to be there and the lucky girls were thrilled to have a photo with him. Today, there are four housemates left and Dec. 10 is the big season-ender.

After chatting with director Lauren Dyogi, I was short-listed as a possible housemate in the celebrity PBB edition starting January next year. Even with the generous prize money, though, I don’t think I would last a day. The rooms, including toilets, have cameras. My hair won’t last that long without my weekly visit to Emphasis Salon with my stylist Victor Ortega. There needs to be special accommodations if I am to consider the challenge.

Cebu connection

Whenever I am in Cebu, I call on my Cebuano party connection, Butch Carungay, to fill me in with the latest happenings and the hottest bars. So just before the finale of the Araw Awards, Dennis and I sneaked out and headed to the soon-to-open restaurant-bar, Cielo. Co-owned by Butch, this ultra-chic hot spot near Ayala will surely be the place to be seen. Butch also told me the bar is perfect for him—he might as well make a commission on his drinking!

From there, we headed toward the newly renovated Vudu Bar, the Cebu version of Embassy at the Fort. Located at the ultra-hip leisure complex Crossroads, this dance club owned by John Paul Chiongbian is the coolest place to hang out.

Thanks to John Paul’s sister, Jaja Chiongbian of Mactan Island Shangri-La, we even got VIP passes with free champagne, though I was still nursing and so held back on the bubbly. When I eventually stop feeding, I shall have an open-bar party celebration. Of course, at the rate I am going, this might be still in two years!

After all the partying, we headed back to Mactan Shang for a fun-filled activity weekend with the kids. This resort is continually renovating and improving their facilities. One truly has to be impressed with their faith in the Philippine tourism industry!

Spa treat

We once again enjoyed relaxing treatments in Chi Spa and had lunch in the soon-to-open Tea in Spring, their Chinese teahouse with over 50 specialty tea flavors to offer. Shang’s new marketing head, Sharon Samarista, told us over dim sum there is a continuous flow of foreign guests, Koreans who come to get married, Japanese families, European honeymooners and other Westerners. The hotel has built a beautiful, nonsectarian chapel with the pews facing the ocean. When Mass is celebrated at sunset, it is an incredible sight.

Cebu is marketed outside the Philippines as “an island in the Pacific.” That way, they are independent of the negative perceptions about our country. The tourist industry is thriving down south and is indeed helping with our country’s economic growth.

Another event, even further south, was Timeless Weddings Bridal Fair at the Marco Polo Hotel in Davao. Last month, the hotel hosted the biggest wedding and brides’ fair in Mindanao. Renowned designer Frederick Peralta presented his latest bridal collection to the cosmo Davao audience. His long gowns with delicate beadwork and Asian-inspired creations illustrated his creative artistry.

The Philippines can totally boast of many beautiful facets among its many islands. As the Ad Congress theme goes, “Are We Ready for the World?” Of course we are!

any good massage parlor in manila?

ILOILO- sorry pero... masikip ang daan... marumi ang streets
good naman ang economy pero parang uncivilized parn... yun lng... sorry sa mga ilongo...


hehehe ... a big comedy to be exact.

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BUTUAN ANNUAL STREET PARTY
Montilla Boulevard stretch is transformed annually into an oversized dance floor as the city celebrates its annual Balanghai Festival

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Butuan loves to Rock!

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JC Aquino late night scene, across Big Joe Entertainment Center

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Park Woodstock Parties

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Acoustic nights

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Almont Pool Bar

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Night Falls over Lake Mainit

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Night market bustles in the dark

my choice..

1.cebu
2.davao
3.cagayan de oro
4.bacolod
5.bagiuo
6.iloilo
7.olongapo
8.butuan
9.dunno

my choice..

1.cebu
2.davao
3.cagayan de oro
4.bacolod
5.bagiuo
6.iloilo
7.olongapo
8.butuan

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woo i like it!!

9.dunno
10.dunno either

i those fiesta street decors on the 3rd pic.. it must have happend in Butuan's fiesta :)

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The Village of Asiatown I.T. Park

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Ayala Center Cebu: Entertainment Center and Lagoon Area

cebu is one great place but kinda annoying pag laking maynila ka, i just don't like how they treat tagalog folks, it is a city where in some times you feel so foreign. so foreign kase folks down there would rather speak cebuano and english and nothing in between. and you can actually feel tension once tanongin mo sila ng tagalog, kahit naiintindihan nila ung tinanong mo, they will answer you in pure cebuano.. with pride! (a pride very uncalled for when asking directions, finding a toilet or buying stuff at a store) you are better off there speaking english in that city.

i have nothing against it but kinda like part of their culture, i think it's their way to inculturate you with their language. i also heard na cebuanos have an attitude na "pag nasa maynila ako, magtatagalog ako pero pag ikaw nasa lugar namin, magcebuano ka!" or kinda like that..

i experienced the same thing too when i went there in late 70's and 80's. our country has many languages and dialects but we have to come out with a national language and it happened to be pilipino which is mostly derived from tagalog language. i'm not a tagalog myself but i'm from luzon. if i mentioned one incident like buying a medicine in a drug store cos i was sicked of fever and not feeling well and the the lady just ignored me.
i'm not sure if pilipino is being taught in cebu or cebuanos are just reluctant to speak pilipino. as one forumer said (sorry to mentioned u boybaha) that speaking in tagalog is just imposing the tagalog culture (correct me if i'm wrong). but boybaha, i don't think so. i rather say u will be one step ahead if u speak pilipino(tagalog) cos u can speak that language but they can't speak ur language. we speak english but we don't lose our culture and identity. right?
i'd been to davao, zamboanga, iloilo and bacolod and they are accommodating. there is nothing wrong of being proud of ur culture but arrogance is another thing.
well, my 3 times visits to cebu gave me a chance to learn and understand a little cebuano and i'm proud of it.

i feel the other way around, they thought i was an actor :lol:

i experienced the same thing too when i went there in late 70's and 80's. our country has many languages and dialects but we have to come out with a national language and it happened to be pilipino which is mostly derived from tagalog language. i'm not a tagalog myself but i'm from luzon. if i mentioned one incident like buying a medicine in a drug store cos i was sicked of fever and not feeling well and the the lady just ignored me.
i'm not sure if pilipino is being taught in cebu or cebuanos are just reluctant to speak pilipino. as one forumer said (sorry to mentioned u boybaha) that speaking in tagalog is just imposing the tagalog culture (correct me if i'm wrong). but boybaha, i don't think so. i rather say u will be one step ahead if u speak pilipino(tagalog) cos u can speak that language but they can't speak ur language. we speak english but we don't lose our culture and identity. right?
i'd been to davao, zamboanga, iloilo and bacolod and they are accommodating. there is nothing wrong of being proud of ur culture but arrogance is another thing.
well, my 3 times visits to cebu gave me a chance to learn and understand a little cebuano and i'm proud of it.

I think I've mentioned that I had a similar feeling of alienation before when I was in Cebu. It was so palpable that I had to clam up the entire time and let my Cebuano host do all the talking for me. I believe that Cebuanos @slerz or @sloid explained the rationale behind this 'defensiveness' to me. I'm trying to remember. I think it is in the Visayan thread.

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Ayala Center Cebu: Entertainment Center and Lagoon Area

This so cool and refreshing to the eyes. Ayala Center Cebu is nicely planned.

i experienced the same thing too when i went there in late 70's and 80's. our country has many languages and dialects but we have to come out with a national language and it happened to be pilipino which is mostly derived from tagalog language. i'm not a tagalog myself but i'm from luzon. if i mentioned one incident like buying a medicine in a drug store cos i was sicked of fever and not feeling well and the the lady just ignored me.
i'm not sure if pilipino is being taught in cebu or cebuanos are just reluctant to speak pilipino. as one forumer said (sorry to mentioned u boybaha) that speaking in tagalog is just imposing the tagalog culture (correct me if i'm wrong). but boybaha, i don't think so. i rather say u will be one step ahead if u speak pilipino(tagalog) cos u can speak that language but they can't speak ur language. we speak english but we don't lose our culture and identity. right?
i'd been to davao, zamboanga, iloilo and bacolod and they are accommodating. there is nothing wrong of being proud of ur culture but arrogance is another thing.
well, my 3 times visits to cebu gave me a chance to learn and understand a little cebuano and i'm proud of it.


the common problem cguro with us cebuanos ay nahihirapan kami magtagalog.. masyadong matigas ang dila namin. my dad is a pure tagalog but i talk to him in bisaya.. pero hindi naman cguro snob ang mga cebuanos.. :)

the common problem cguro with us cebuanos ay nahihirapan kami magtagalog.. masyadong matigas ang dila namin. my dad is a pure tagalog but i talk to him in bisaya.. pero hindi naman cguro snob ang mga cebuanos.. :)
kami rin mga pangasinense, matigas din ang dila namin kaya natatawa rin yon kaibigan kong cebuano pag-nagcecebuano ako but i don't take it as an insult.
my point is "like being ignored". like u flew all the way down to cebu to enjoy but the feeling of being ignored is tantamount of not being welcome ba. that's how i felt. i hope i'm wrong. i hope that u don't consider all people in luzon as tagalog though most of them speak tagalog. may mga kapangpangan, ilokano, bicolano, ibanag, pangasinense at marami pang iba. of course most of u can't speak these languages/dialects and most of them can't speak ur language kaya mayroon tayong national language.
ok that's it......kumusta na lang kayo diha.

WARNING: malabo ang pics.

the Venue compound, davao city

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my choices

1. cebu
2. davao
3. ilo-ilo
4. bagiuo
5. bacolod
6. olongapo
7. zamboanga
8. legaspi
9. angeles
10. tagaytay

sorry..never been to cdo and butuan

Without bias, I would recommend Cebu to everyone. From the jologs to the socialites, Come to Cebu! ;)

To make it simple, from the poor to the rich, you'd surely enjoy Cebu's vibrant nightlife. :D

what is jologs

^^

"Jologs" has a lot of layers of meanings, depending on how you use it.

In the seventies, "jologs" was akin to "psychedelic."

Nowadays, jologs may mean "squatter" or in American slang, "ghetto." It connotes lack of class or being crass or being from the lower rungs of society, especially those who want to imitate the more genteel class.

It can also mean those people who are ignorant and stupid or those who lack sophistication and Pizzazz.

:) peace!

Nowadays, jologs may mean "squatter" or in American slang, "ghetto." It connotes lack of class or being crass or being from the lower rungs of society, especially those who want to imitate the more genteel class.

This is what I meant. ^^ :)

crazy night tour4 of night tour2 along Fuente Osmeña, Cebu.
juz for fun...
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night tour1 along Mango Ave., Cebu
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night tour4 along Arch. Bishop Reyes ave., Cebu
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IF YOU FROM MANILA KEEPS ON IMOPSING THAT WE'RE AGAINST THE MANILA PEOPLE... WELL, SORRY COZ EVERYONE KNOWS THE TRUTH THAT WE CAN HARDLY SPEAK TAGALOG not only the pronounciation but also physically, it hurts our jaws if we speak continuous tagalog. hahaha for this...

IF CEBUANOS IGNORE PEOPLE FROM MANILA, CEBU CAN'T BE THE NO.1 TOURIST DESTINATION IN THE PHILIPPINES. WE ALL KNOW THE REASON BUT IF YOU INSIST THINKING LIKE THAT, IT'S ALL YOUR CHOICE AND PROBLEM and WE WON'T LOOSE ANYTHING..:nocrook::)

my mom have relatives in Cavite but I talk to them in Cebuano... I'm a bad dog if I mean ignoring them just because I'm talking to them in Cebuano.

Mabuhi ang mga Sugbuanon! Continue challenging Imperial Manila and Tagalog. :)
Im really proud of you people for keeping the beautiful language and culture of Cebuano. Paz y respeto para todos!

^^

"Jologs" has a lot of layers of meanings, depending on how you use it.

In the seventies, "jologs" was akin to "psychedelic."

Nowadays, jologs may mean "squatter" or in American slang, "ghetto." It connotes lack of class or being crass or being from the lower rungs of society, especially those who want to imitate the more genteel class.

It can also mean those people who are ignorant and stupid or those who lack sophistication and Pizzazz.

:) peace!

I don't think there is such a term in the 70s. We can ask Kuyageezer and sugarboy. Someone (I think Boybaha) mentioned that jologs was derived from Jolina Magdangal because she had bakya followers then. I'm not sure about this info though since I was no longer in Manila when this word became popular and they had a movie about it.

IF YOU FROM MANILA KEEPS ON IMOPSING THAT WE'RE AGAINST THE MANILA PEOPLE... WELL, SORRY COZ EVERYONE KNOWS THE TRUTH THAT WE CAN HARDLY SPEAK TAGALOG not only the pronounciation but also physically, it hurts our jaws if we speak continuous tagalog. hahaha for this...

IF CEBUANOS IGNORE PEOPLE FROM MANILA, CEBU CAN'T BE THE NO.1 TOURIST DESTINATION IN THE PHILIPPINES. WE ALL KNOW THE REASON BUT IF YOU INSIST THINKING LIKE THAT, IT'S ALL YOUR CHOICE AND PROBLEM and WE WON'T LOOSE ANYTHING..:nocrook::)

my mom have relatives in Cavite but I talk to them in Cebuano... I'm a bad dog if I mean ignoring them just because I'm talking to them in Cebuano.

Sorry Slerz, people from Manila are not imposing this. Sorry not everyone knows the truth about the predicament of the Cebuanos when they speak Tagalog. I only happened to know it because you told me about it through these threads. And I thank you for that.

Our experiences (Vanoy, mbassy and myself) in Cebu happened years ago so things may have changed by now. It's not just our problem and there is a choice. It is to change the attitude and the treatment of the issue presuming that everyone knows the reason why they feel ignored or not spoken to when they speak Tagalog in Cebu. It is not only our loss and problem. But a little effort on both parts will go a long way in fostering unity and understanding, and dispelling this misimpression.