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EDMONTON - Oil Dome (18,500)

Katz Group is proposing a $450 million arena to be built by Edmonton based PCL Construction. The primary tenant would be the Edmonton Oilers of the NHL. The design was inspired by a drop of oil This is oil country, after all!

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That is genuinely ugly. They definitely need a new arena, but I'd be shocked if the final form looked like that.

Are there any interior photos?

I haven't come across any yet.

I just love this design. This is 10 times nicer than any arena in the world with the possible exception of the Sprint Center in Kansas City. It makes everything else on this continent look like a piece of crap. I'm just salivating over these renderings. About time we got something nice.

That is genuinely ugly. They definitely need a new arena, but I'd be shocked if the final form looked like that.

Alberta is very wealthy. They can afford the best money can buy. They're not going to build something ordinary like Staples Center or General Motors Place.

Ugly? You're crazy. Apart for Sprint Center, this is the first nice arena design I've ever seen proposed in north America. The standard arena on this continent looks like a giant Best Buy big box store.

Mainly stainless steel cladding on the exterior?

AKA The Nine Iron

One more rendering:
http://i.imgur.com/zV1fr.jpg

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Looks sweet. That sky walkway will be great

Just build it already. Whats the hold up?

Mainly stainless steel cladding on the exterior?

I'm not sure at this point, but I'm hoping for something like that.

EDMONTON - Oil Dome (18,500)

Katz Group is proposing a $450 million arena to be built by Edmonton based PCL Construction. The primary tenant would be the Edmonton Oilers of the NHL. The design was inspired by a drop of oil This is oil country, after all!

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looks like a giant pork chop

http://www.porkchops.com/images/Calumet Gold Label Center Cut Pork Chops.jpg

looks like a giant pork chop


Covered in mercury! Sooooooo awesome! This could end up being my favourite project on the planet. :master:

Ugly? You're crazy. Apart for Sprint Center, this is the first nice arena design I've ever seen proposed in north America. The standard arena on this continent looks like a giant Best Buy big box store.
I agree with you about the 'Best Buy' anology, but there is more than one type of ugly. This is Frank Gehry ugly. But instead of someone spilling a bag of tortilla chips (like the Disney Concert Hall in LA) this is someone spilling a quart of oil. Why can't we get more arenas like Oracle in Oakland or Memorial Coliseum in Portland?

The interior looks like a hybrid of MSG's current renovation and the Air Canada Centre.

I agree with you about the 'Best Buy' anology, but there is more than one type of ugly. This is Frank Gehry ugly. But instead of someone spilling a bag of tortilla chips (like the Disney Concert Hall in LA) this is someone spilling a quart of oil. Why can't we get more arenas like Oracle in Oakland or Memorial Coliseum in Portland?

Because the design of the Oracle is out of style by now and has been used many times before?

My personal opinion, I wish Edmonton the best of luck in getting this approved, looks smexy as hell. Would have begun sooner if Harper hadn't killed Edmonton's Expo 2017 bid |:C

I'm not sure at this point, but I'm hoping for something like that.

Same here, 'cause that would mean the exterior cladding materials would match the high standard of the BOK Center.

http://postmediaedmonton.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/oildrop-e1335559899494.jpg

http://s019.radikal.ru/i607/1205/a0/bdc6e854faa5.jpg

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/04/25/mandel-on-the-new-arena-i-think-its-an-incredible-project-for-downtown/

That is genuinely ugly. They definitely need a new arena, but I'd be shocked if the final form looked like that.

I COMPLETELY disagree. This building looks great and I can only hope they don't V/E the hell out of it.

It's about time someone started a thread for this project.

Oil Dome? I'd imagine that the Katz Group would put the "Rexall" name on the Oilers' new digs as well.

Is it true that Rexall Place is the oldest NHL arena in the league?

That skyscaper between the chop bit is that already standing or will that be built too.

That is awesome, love the catwalk too.

It's about time someone started a thread for this project.

Oil Dome? I'd imagine that the Katz Group would put the "Rexall" name on the Oilers' new digs as well.

Is it true that Rexall Place is the oldest NHL arena in the league?

I believe it's the 2nd oldest next to the Islanders arena

It takes balls to put forth a design like that and I think it's one of those that we don't think really know how it turns out until it's built. Either it will be great or awful. Kudos to them for taking a chance though and fingers crossed for great.

I think it will be about here, if this gets done:

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It's about time someone started a thread for this project.

Oil Dome? I'd imagine that the Katz Group would put the "Rexall" name on the Oilers' new digs as well.

Is it true that Rexall Place is the oldest NHL arena in the league?

You do know on how stadium naming works right? Katz Group can't use Rexall as a name for the future arena.

Ugly...beautiful...it's all subjective.

I, personally, think it's absolutely stunning!

You do know on how stadium naming works right? Katz Group can't use Rexall as a name for the future arena.
Why not? Both arenas that the Kings have had in Sacramento were named ARCO Arena.

Alberta is very wealthy. They can afford the best money can buy. They're not going to build something ordinary like Staples Center or General Motors Place.

Then why is there a $100M shortfall (before contingency budget) in which the province has consistently said they are not going to pick up?

I COMPLETELY disagree. This building looks great and I can only hope they don't V/E the hell out of it.

It's about time someone started a thread for this project.

Oil Dome? I'd imagine that the Katz Group would put the "Rexall" name on the Oilers' new digs as well.

Is it true that Rexall Place is the oldest NHL arena in the league?

Madison Square Garden is the oldest.

Why not? Both arenas that the Kings have had in Sacramento were named ARCO Arena.

Arco -a.k.a. Atlantic Richfield Company- had corporate sponsorship of the old arena, and the current arena since it's conception. They paid the owners of the arena to name the arena after them for a while to sponsor the company, that's how it usually works.

The only way the new arena would be called Rexall is if the company would pay to have they're brand be sponsored.

Arco -a.k.a. Atlantic Richfield Company- had corporate sponsorship of the old arena, and the current arena since it's conception. They paid the owners of the arena to name the arena after them for a while to sponsor the company, that's how it usually works.

The only way the new arena would be called Rexall is if the company would pay to have they're brand be sponsored.
And the deal includes the Katz Group, which still owns Rexall, kicking in C$100 million to the deal, which could be thought of as a naming rights fee. Your previous post seemed in imply that there was some legal hurdle to placing the Rexall name on the new arena. That was why I brought up the ARCO reference.

I agree with you about the 'Best Buy' anology, but there is more than one type of ugly. This is Frank Gehry ugly. But instead of someone spilling a bag of tortilla chips (like the Disney Concert Hall in LA) this is someone spilling a quart of oil. Why can't we get more arenas like Oracle in Oakland or Memorial Coliseum in Portland?
HUH?

This looks nowhere near as bad as Gehry's abominations.

This building actually has rhyme, reason and continuity, for starters.

I think it loooks great.

I like the design, those concourses look amazing. That sky-walkway looks really cool, but really dangerous. Hockey fans aren't exactly known as teetotalers.

Frankly I don't see how anyone can find this design "ugly". It is quite different, yes, but it is definitely not as "bold" as those Gehry museums or the ROM Crystal in Toronto.

You do know on how stadium naming works right? Katz Group can't use Rexall as a name for the future arena.

Like someone else pointed out, Katz Group owns Rexall.

Plus, Amway had its name on the old Orlando Magic arena (Amway Arena) and now has its name on the new Orlando Magic arena (Amway Center).

I was thinking Katz Group could do the same.

Busch Stadium

http://shannonsbaseball.webs.com/BuschStadium,st_louis.jpg


Busch Stadium

http://mall.ballparks.com/images/AV66STL.jpg

I like it!

Frankly I don't see how anyone can find this design "ugly". It is quite different, yes, but it is definitely not as "bold" as those Gehry museums or the ROM Crystal in Toronto.
Ugly: unattractive or unpleasant to look at; offensive to the sense of beauty; displeasing in appearance.

To me it fits that definition. Fortunately, I live outside of Canada, so you can't have me charged with thoughtcrime.

looks like a giant pork chop

http://www.porkchops.com/images/Calumet Gold Label Center Cut Pork Chops.jpg

lol I do like chops when properly cooked so I do find that design appealing in a way and the skywalk appears to be the new 'it' thing these days!

Ugly: unattractive or unpleasant to look at; offensive to the sense of beauty; displeasing in appearance.

To me it fits that definition. Fortunately, I live outside of Canada, so you can't have me charged with thoughtcrime.

Just cause you don't like it, don't mean it ain't no good

-You Can't Bring Me Down - Suicidal Tendencies 1990 (Lights Camera Revolution)

Why can't we get more arenas like Oracle in Oakland or Memorial Coliseum in Portland?

No thanks. Oracle already looks dated and reminds me of a giant Cineplex in the suburbs. The Portland arena couldn't be more plain and boring if it tried.

Busch Stadium

http://shannonsbaseball.webs.com/BuschStadium,st_louis.jpg


Busch Stadium

http://mall.ballparks.com/images/AV66STL.jpg

don't forget the original Busch (Sportsman's Park)

No thanks. Oracle already looks dated and reminds me of a giant Cineplex in the suburbs. The Portland arena couldn't be more plain and boring if it tried.
I disagree, its conservative design but Portland arena looks nice.

I disagree, its conservative design but Portland arena looks nice.

It's a nice arena, but there's nothing really interesting about it. Just a 90s-style generic arena, inside and out.

I think we've reached a point in arena designs where being generic needs to be considered lazy, unambitious and flat out bad. This is why I applaud anyone attempting to make their own mark ... even the currently under construction arena in Perth, Australia. Aesthetically, it looks quite unpleasing but at least they have broken free from the mold.

too bad the Oilers suck :P

all kidding aside, I think this arena looks stunning..

Besides going to see the Leafs last year, I haven't watched an NHL game in about 10 years so I'll take your word for it! :colgate:

It's a nice arena, but there's nothing really interesting about it. Just a 90s-style generic arena, inside and out.
Actually my original point was about the early 60s version, about 40 yards away. The Rose Garden is pretty ugly, too. I like buildings with lots of glass, if they are done right.

too bad the Oilers suck :P

all kidding aside, I think this arena looks stunning..

Just give them a couple of years. Yakupov, Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, and Eberle...... WOWZA!

Just give them a couple of years. Yakupov, Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, and Eberle...... WOWZA!
It's a shame they've tooken so long with how much depth is in there prospect system and how talented there offense is. There defense is what kills them.

BSP-GcVtLp8&

http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/documents/City_Council_Presentation_120516.pdf

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http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/downtown-arena.aspx

For me, the exterior has a New Street (a railway station here in the UK) look about it. The cladding for the railway station is stunning, and hopefully that's what they'll opt for in cladding this new arena:

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3826/birminghamnewstreetfaca.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/birminghamnewstreetfaca.jpg/)

This would immediately become the best looking arena in North America if realized. I doubt that the funding gap can be met though without radically changing the scope of the project.

http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/projects_redevelopment/downtown-arena.aspx

Are they truly going to build a new LRT station right beside this new arena?

I don't think any of the current LRT routes even stops in that part of downtown.

Are they truly going to build a new LRT station right beside this new arena?

I don't think any of the current LRT routes even stops in that part of downtown.
There are two stations, one to the east and one to the south, both about half a click away. Building a spur to link the arena directly might double the cost of the project, as the line is underground through there.

North LRT to NAIT is already under construction. The MacEwan station will be connected to the future arena.

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(image from hilman from SSP)

Is this confirmed?

I remember hearing a few years ago about Bettman mulling relocating the Oilers if they didn't get a replacement for Rexall.

Is this confirmed?

I remember hearing a few years ago about Bettman mulling relocating the Oilers if they didn't get a replacement for Rexall.

Except the situation is not exactly dire. It's one thing when he throws out the threat with the Islanders who draw flies and desperately need a building to be viable. It's another to do it with Oilers who are 6th in the league in game day revenue already. I know the building is old, but the the threat of viability is a lie. This is more a "want" masquerading as a "need" in the name of greed. Just the name of the game in pro sports.

North LRT to NAIT is already under construction. The MacEwan station will be connected to the future arena.

http://p.twimg.com/AsAfJSECMAABWaG.jpg

(image from hilman from SSP)
So this is looking west along 105th? And the arena would be where the parking lot is in the lower left? I had never heard of this extension. Shoulda done more homework.

For me, the exterior has a New Street (a railway station here in the UK) look about it. The cladding for the railway station is stunning, and hopefully that's what they'll opt for in cladding this new arena:

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3826/birminghamnewstreetfaca.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/birminghamnewstreetfaca.jpg/)

What material is that? It looks great.

What material is that? It looks great.

Polished stainless steel. Amazing cladding, and one that would certainly make the exterior of this arena very special, well, that's if they opt for it:

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It would look outta sight if they used that. It would look like a giant version of that silver bean (Cloud Gate) in Chicago's Millennium Park.

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Courtesy of cultural capitol

Well, it looks like Katz wants to redo the earlier "agreement" with the city.
So typical.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/Downtown+arena+price+could+million+mayor+says/7239685/story.html

From the story:
Locked in negotiations over a proposed downtown arena, the Katz Group has asked the city for several new concessions, including a $6-million annual subsidy to help pay for maintenance and operations, according to sources involved in the talks.

The proposed downtown arena could now cost as much as $475 million, Mayor Stephen Mandel said Thursday.

That would be $25 million more than the projected cost when the city and the Katz Group signed an agreement last fall.

Mandel said Thursday the Katz Group has suggested the cost overrun should be split equally between the city and Oilers’ owner.

City councillors met behind closed doors Wednesday to discuss the latest proposal put forward by the company.

Coun. Don Iveson said the Katz Group’s new conditions amount to a request for an annual subsidy from city taxpayers.

Asked about the $6-million subsidy, Iveson said that figure was included in the new request, as were additional concessions the company asked for.

Last October, Katz agreed to put $100 million toward the arena, paid out with interest in instalments of $5.67 million a year over the life of a 35-year lease.

Getting $6 million a year back from the city would offset that contribution entirely, said Coun. Brian Anderson.

“In effect, the city would be paying the entire cost of the $100 million,” Anderson said. “Do you think anyone in their right mind would agree?”

That subsidy wasn’t the only new funding request made by the company, Anderson said.

“There are others that are equally concerning.”

If city council agreed to pay the $6-million annual subsidy, Anderson said, “as a citizen, that would offend me.”

The mayor said the $25-million increase in the overall construction cost isn’t the primary sticking point in negotiations.

“People shouldn’t be silly to think that council wouldn’t have the courage to finalize a deal to build a great facility for a few dollars,” Mandel said. “Not that $10 million is a few dollars, but it’s about building a great city.”

Would be better if the roof was more rounded (and higher) over the main arena rather than the flat one proposed. The interior cladding on the smaller arena (wood) also looks way nicer than that in the larger arena.

Fix that and go with a polished stainless steel exterior and this would be perfect and Edmonton's first truly iconic building. The reflective quality alone would make it visible (when the sun hits it) from aircraft perhaps even 50 km away.

Well, it looks like Katz wants to redo the earlier "agreement" with the city.
So typical.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/Downtown+arena+price+could+million+mayor+says/7239685/story.html

From the story:

These greedy owners are so predictable. No wonder the NHL gets locked out every time the CBA expires.

Katz Group statement on Seattle trip

The following statement is attributable to Bob Black, Executive Vice President, Edmonton Arena Corporation, Katz Group:

"I can confirm that Daryl Katz, Patrick LaForge, Kevin Lowe and others from the Oilers leadership group are in Seattle for meetings and to attend the Seahawks game.

We remain committed to working with City Administration to achieve a deal commensurate with what Winnipeg and Pittsburgh have done to sustain the NHL in those small markets. If we can achieve such a deal, the Oilers will remain in Edmonton and we can get on with the important work of developing the new arena and investing in the continued revitalization of Edmonton's downtown core.

Nonetheless, and as the City of Edmonton is aware, the Katz Group has been listening to proposals from a number of potential NHL markets for some time. After more than four years of trying to secure an arena deal and with less than 24 months remaining on the Oilers' lease at Rexall Place, this is only prudent and should come as no surprise.

We are extremely grateful to Oilers' fans for their patience and loyalty as we work through this process towards what we sincerely hope will be a long and successful future for the Oilers in Edmonton. We have no further comment on the status of our discussions with other markets at this time."

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmonton/Katz+Group+statement/7292758/story.html

Sorry to bring this thread back.

But will this new arena be built by 2015/2016?

Sorry to bring this thread back.

But will this new arena be built by 2015/2016?

Extremely doubtful if today's news (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=407598) is anything to go by.

Man, Katz's actions almost look like he's attempting to sabotage the chances of building a new arena just so that he could relocate the Oilers to a "better" city

Man, Katz's actions almost look like he's attempting to sabotage the chances of building a new arena just so that he could relocate the Oilers to a "better" city

Its more that thats one of his bargaining chips. I'm sure plan A is to get a sweetheart deal in Edmonton, but he wouldn't blink at moving the team if the deal falls thru.

Its more that thats one of his bargaining chips. I'm sure plan A is to get a sweetheart deal in Edmonton, but he wouldn't blink at moving the team if the deal falls thru.

He already had a sweetheart deal and decided to throw it away to demand a $6 million annual subsidy from the city, all while refusing to open the team's books.

The Oilers have almost zero chance of going anywhere. NHL insider Pierre LeBrun even suggested that the league would vote down any relocation attempt by Katz and force him to sell the team. And really, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

The NHL has been adamant in recent years that they do whatever is in their power to keep teams where they are (See: Phoenix Coyotes). Compound the fact that the no Stanley Cup winner has relocated or folded since the 1940's, that the Oilers have among the best fan support in the league (no unsold seat in the house at some of the highest price points in the league over the last three years despite finishes of 30th, 30th, and 29th), that the team is currently (speculated) to be profitable, and that the city has put a significant amount of money on the table for a new arena, it just will not be happening. The only reason the Oilers would leave is a personal vendetta from either Katz or the league and I haven't seen any evidence of that.

Some people's greed knows no bounds. If Katz was already getting a great deal, maybe he thinks he has more leverage to extract an even better deal. It's good to see the city council call his bluff. If anything goes wrong from here on in, it will solely be his fault.

CITY OF EDMONTON AND OILERS AGREE TO REVISED ARENA DEAL

EDMONTON -- The Edmonton Oilers and the city have agreed to resurrect a deal to build a new downtown arena.

City councillors have voted to accept a cost-shared deal for a $480-million rink.

After surrounding infrastructure is added in, the final bill will be $601 million.

The money will come from taxpayers, Oilers owner Daryl Katz, and a ticket tax.

However the deal is still more than $100 million short, which is money Edmonton Mayor Stephen Mandel hopes will come primarily from the provincial government.

The plan is for construction to start this fall and the building to open in 2016.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414279

isaidso: this is amazing never seen a design like this it similar to barclay arena but this one would be the best arena in america that in IMO

isaidso: this is amazing never seen a design like this it similar to barclay arena but this one would be the best arena in america that in IMO

Agree and its about to become a reality. On Wednesday, January 23rd Edmonton City Council voted in favour of Option A. Looks like this arena is a go! It's about time a wealthy city like Edmonton got something lavish/opulent. :okay:


Option A
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im gonna keep my eye's on this arena on SSC because this is amazing great thread!

It's a fabulous design. I hope they go with a much shinier, more metallic looking material than what's depicted in the renderings.

just hoping to get it built because i love it nothing wrong with it it so beautiful just fit perfect

Quite right. I love it too.

any recent news or anything if not... it ok i can wait...but this is amazing cant waitttt

The on-again-off-again deal to build a new rink for the Edmonton Oilers is on — again.
City councillors and the Edmonton Oilers have agreed to split the cost of the final missing $30 million needed to green light the wavy-shaped steel and glass structure in the city’s downtown in time for the 2016-17 NHL season.
Construction is slated to start in the spring of 2014.
The city plans to pay off some of its debt through increased tax revenues from shops and businesses expected to spring up around the arena.
The deal caps seven years of debate that divided residents among those who wanted public dollars to go to the $480-million arena, those who didn’t, and those who were OK with public money but said the deal was far too lopsided in favour of Oilers owner Daryl Katz.
This is the third time the deal has been proclaimed by council.
Prior deals collapsed over disputes with the Katz or when expected funding didn’t come through.

Looks promising for the future of the Oilers!

LOL @ Edmonton taxpayers. They continue to get fleeced.

LOL @ Edmonton taxpayers. They continue to get fleeced.

Unlike Toronto, where the whole nation gets fleeced to build stadiums and arenas.........:lol: