View Full Version : Brussels - Germanic or Romancian?


Lostboy
November 16th, 2004, 02:18 PM
Whilst we have almost everything settled for these cultural superpowers there are a few territories that still need clarification, Brussels is one such disputed area. Personally though I see no reason for the dispute, whilst Brussels is Francophone, I would be willing to bet most of its citizens are more aligned to the Peoples of the North, than they are to a New Roman Empire.

However this is for you to decide, so Citizens of Brussels cast your vote.

Matthieu
November 16th, 2004, 04:10 PM
Just a question, we could answer Nordic Spirit by mediteranean spirit.

But what could one say in answer of the loyalty to Rome? The loyalty to Berlin?

Mike
November 16th, 2004, 05:16 PM
But what could one say in answer of the loyalty to Rome? The loyalty to Berlin?

No, Trollhättan.

Matthieu
November 16th, 2004, 05:39 PM
lol

snot
November 16th, 2004, 07:48 PM
I think every Francophone between Nantes, Brussels and Genève don't feel southern, yes they speak a latin language but they are Franks and Francophone Celts and Germans. They have a French culture, a mix between Northern and Southern cultures.
Brussels is the most nothern Francophone city so it must have the most northern culture. Most of the people in Brussels are Flemish from origins.
Brussels is a German city with a french flair. It's a mix between German and Latin culture, it's an imitation of Paris with a Northern history.
It is the capital of the beer.
But if Brussels had to chose between Paris or Flanders it would probably chose for Paris.

snot
November 16th, 2004, 07:54 PM
By the way i'm originally half from Brussels but didn' vote the poll, because Brussels is a bridge between Latin union and Germanic union.

Kampflamm
November 16th, 2004, 09:18 PM
I've been to Brussels, may I vote?

snot
November 16th, 2004, 10:02 PM
If you agree that Belgian beer is better than German beer you may vote.
:cheers:

Josh
November 16th, 2004, 11:04 PM
But if Brussels had to chose between Paris or Flanders it would probably chose for Paris.

If by that you mean that if Brussels had to choose between joining Flanders or France it would choose the latter, I think you can't be more wrong. Brussels and France have nothing in common except for the language.

Brussels has a Germanic identity, the fact that most of its citizens speak a Romance language doesn't change that.

blimey
November 16th, 2004, 11:36 PM
I think Brussels is Germanic.
I think Brussels is Romancian.

[if that helps]

Kampflamm
November 17th, 2004, 02:12 AM
If you agree that Belgian beer is better than German beer you may vote.
:cheers:

http://www.forum-aufschalke.de/images/avatars/avatar-3063.gif

I accidentally voted.

renell
November 17th, 2004, 09:21 AM
Brussels, or a majority of it is francophone, like where I used to live, but the majority of the population speaks Flemish.

But since the poll only says Brussels i say Romancian.

snot
December 26th, 2004, 04:25 PM
If by that you mean that if Brussels had to choose between joining Flanders or France it would choose the latter, I think you can't be more wrong. Brussels and France have nothing in common except for the language.

Brussels has a Germanic identity, the fact that most of its citizens speak a Romance language doesn't change that.

Brussels may have a 'Germanic' identity, the majority feels above all Belgan and Francophone and very orientated to France culturally.

Matthieu
December 26th, 2004, 04:30 PM
Actually, most of the Brussel forumers I know hang in various French speaking forums. And there's no real barrier of nationality. The French and the French speaking Belgian are obviously very close and if a French speaking Belgian doesn't say he is Belgian no one can guess it (same thing is true for the French speaking Swiss), on the contrary forumers from Quebec are quickly recognised.

Swede
January 13th, 2005, 08:38 PM
I reject the options presented to me in this poll. The groupings "Germanic" and "Romanician" are both social constructs invented to ease categorizations and generalizations of people. They ignore the reality that culture is ever-changing, and that traditions vary even between neighbours.
Brussels is "Brusselsian".

edubejar
February 5th, 2005, 02:29 AM
I've always heard and have experienced that in Brussels, it is typically the Flamands (Flemish-speakers) that are bilingual, while the Wallons (French-speakers) rarely speak Flemish, if it isn't for a few words here and there that comes naturally from living in a country that is bilingual. In essence, the Wallons (French Belgians), having cultural dominance in Brussels, are the "lazy English-Canadians," while the Flemish are the "submissive French-Canadians." Having said that, it is important to realize the power that language has in influencing how a people (linguistic community) interacts with another people. While the Wallons live and work side by side with the Flemish in Brussels, I think that Wallons have the tendancy to associate themselves with the French (from France) whenever possible, as they both speak the same language, share many interests such as music, singers that sing in French, TV shows. And although the Flamands have an accent that the French can often pick-up, it's a regional accent of European Franco-land, not an accent of a non-French-speaking person (which most Flemish Belgians have). Plus the French and Wallons enjoy teasing each other, having jokes about one another. The French visit Brussels and the French-speaking towns of Belgium a lot, and the Wallons visit France a lot too. For this reason, I agree that if the Wallons had to choose between France and say the Flemish/Dutch/Germanic regions of Europe, I think most would choose France, because of langauge. Again, the power of language should not be underestimated. But who knows...I know Wallons don't want to be French...I just think that language links people VERY MUCH...more than architecture (Brussels is very Flemish architecturally) and foods, for example.

Kommandant Mark
February 5th, 2005, 03:41 AM
Neither.
Its Slavic!

Or will be, once all Slavic states enter your precious "E.U." :yes:

Ozcan
February 5th, 2005, 08:31 PM
BOTH, off course!

Kampflamm
February 5th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Neither.
Its Slavic!

Or will be, once all Slavic states enter your precious "E.U." :yes:


Yeah, Pan Slavism is alive and well (just look at Yugoslavia and how well they're...wait a second).