I hope they get this under control....

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Yeah everybody is talking about it .. i hope nobody is hurt! although i heard that there are more than 20 people died but i hope that it's not true :(

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بعض المصادر تؤكد وجود وفيات بالفعل لاحول ولاقوة الا بالله

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عموماً ننتظر الاخبار الرسمية

That is so crazy!! I used to live in Doha around the corner from Villaggio Mall. Hope everyone is OK!

Yeah everybody is talking about it .. i hope nobody is hurt! although i heard that there are more than 20 people died but i hope that it's not true :(

Nothing is sure until the ministry of interior releases their press conference at 8 on Qatar TV

Aljazeera TV: Death of 19 including 13 children at a fire in a shopping center in the Qatari capital.

Ministry of interior: Death of 2 civil defense members, 13 children and 4 school teachers that were with them during a kindergarten filed trip.

الله يرحمهم برحمته, أنا لله وانا اليه راجعون

Could we please - out of respect to those who have lost children or loved ones - not have the pictures of the dead in the thread. The pictures serve no purpose, we know the extent of this tragedy...

I am so frustrated, furious and sad all at the same - and without knowing any details about the exact cause of this tragedy it has given me severe reason to think about the attitude towards safety that we all display in this country, whether in traffic, at the work place or at home... Tragedies like this are (should be) avoidable with the proper emergency design, emergency plans, training of staff, passive and active fire fighting measures.
I do so hope that the contributing factors and root causes of this tragedy are uncovered and openly shared to help us avoid aything similar in the future.

.لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله... الله يرحمهم

Horrible news, truly heart wrenching. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of all of those affected, I can't even begin to imagine how they must feel right now.

Could we please - out of respect to those who have lost children or loved ones - not have the pictures of the dead in the thread. The pictures serve no purpose, we know the extent of this tragedy...

I am so frustrated, furious and sad all at the same - and without knowing any details about the exact cause of this tragedy it has given me severe reason to think about the attitude towards safety that we all display in this country, whether in traffic, at the work place or at home... Tragedies like this are (should be) avoidable with the proper emergency design, emergency plans, training of staff, passive and active fire fighting measures.
I do so hope that the contributing factors and root causes of this tragedy are uncovered and openly shared to help us avoid aything similar in the future.

Yes I second that. The way that this whole tragedy has been dealt with is a disaster.

I'm not currently in Doha, is there any official statement on how the fire started yet? Am I correct in assuming it was based near the food court area?

I'm not currently in Doha, is there any official statement on how the fire started yet? Am I correct in assuming it was based near the food court area?

They still dont know how the fire started. But, the nursery that burned had no exit, they had to break the roof to get in and rescue some people.

الله يرحمهم برحمته, أنا لله وانا اليه راجعون

1st my deepest condolences to the family who lost their beloved ones especially the 13 children may all their souls rest in peace

2nd how dare they build a nursery inside the mall without any fire exist where was the government to stop this???? to prove that it is safe for children to be inside????? where was the fire routine that should be made to insure everyone gets out fast and in peace????

i reallly do feeel soo bad

The nursery (gympanzee) for what I know has 2 entrances/exits, one towards the canal and the other near Nike and the other sport shops. Apparntally there was a staircase that collapsed and made everything harder, the fire department had to access the nursery through the roof.

Ministry of interior stated that there were no proper exit and fire/emergency plans and maps available so they had to find other solutions.

One of the parents lost 3 children today :(

The nursery (gympanzee) for what I know has 2 entrances/exits, one towards the canal and the other near Nike and the other sport shops. Apparntally there was a staircase that collapsed and made everything harder, the fire department had to access the nursery through the roof.

Ministry of interior stated that there were no proper exit and fire/emergency plans and maps available so they had to find other solutions.

One of the parents lost 3 children today :(

I'm speechless... I only hope that this is taken as a wake up call.

This is so sad I want to cry :(

^^ yes it breaks our hearts :( sad day

لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله... الله يرحمهم
my condolences to the Qatari people and especially for families of victims and aid inchaelah Allah to spend all his .

Greeting from Morocco .

يا ساتر
الله يرحمهم.
قلوبنا معكم

This is a much needed slap in the face of the security measures in Qatar. Deep condolences to all those who lost their relatives, it really is a tragedy.

I don't even know who to blame anymore. The ignorance of the mall's architect? The "was6a" that got this nursery to open without proper emergency exist? The stupid media that had people waiting for 8 hours to find the news? The people who were in the mall ignoring the fire alarms? I don't even know!

Besides, we shouldn't be blaming the fire exits in the nursery, hardly any safety measures are taken anywhere in the country! I mean if something as modern as villaggio has NO MAPS of fire exists, what should we expect from older buildings? They should do a complete sweep of everything in Qatar and train every single worker in any organisation how to act in case the fire alarm rings.

You see, this is the difference between us and developed countries. Here in the UK, almost all the buildings I've been to have (fire alarm tests) every week just to ensure that the alarm is not broken, and I've probably been instructed to exit buildings because of real fire alarms more than a dozen times since I've been here! They freak out over something as small as an electricity socket outage, we don't.

All in all, this is by far the biggest disaster I have seen so far, and as amrja said, a much needed wake up call.

اللهم احفظ هذا البلد آمنا مطمئنا يارب العالمين

It's burning again! what the hell is going on

The civil defence is cooling off the building. It's not burning again.

Could we please - out of respect to those who have lost children or loved ones - not have the pictures of the dead in the thread. The pictures serve no purpose, we know the extent of this tragedy...

I am so frustrated, furious and sad all at the same - and without knowing any details about the exact cause of this tragedy it has given me severe reason to think about the attitude towards safety that we all display in this country, whether in traffic, at the work place or at home... Tragedies like this are (should be) avoidable with the proper emergency design, emergency plans, training of staff, passive and active fire fighting measures.
I do so hope that the contributing factors and root causes of this tragedy are uncovered and openly shared to help us avoid aything similar in the future.

Well said!!!
We are as mad and sad as you are. I hope this can be a wake up call for safety issues. We have kids, and we dont want ours or anyone's kids to be hurt!!

The nursery (gympanzee) for what I know has 2 entrances/exits, one towards the canal and the other near Nike and the other sport shops. Apparntally there was a staircase that collapsed and made everything harder, the fire department had to access the nursery through the roof.

Ministry of interior stated that there were no proper exit and fire/emergency plans and maps available so they had to find other solutions.

One of the parents lost 3 children today :(

Yes, I read, they were triplets?? Its so heartbreaking!!

This is a much needed slap in the face of the security measures in Qatar. Deep condolences to all those who lost their relatives, it really is a tragedy.

I don't even know who to blame anymore. The ignorance of the mall's architect? The "was6a" that got this nursery to open without proper emergency exist? The stupid media that had people waiting for 8 hours to find the news? The people who were in the mall ignoring the fire alarms? I don't even know!

Besides, we shouldn't be blaming the fire exits in the nursery, hardly any safety measures are taken anywhere in the country! I mean if something as modern as villaggio has NO MAPS of fire exists, what should we expect from older buildings? They should do a complete sweep of everything in Qatar and train every single worker in any organisation how to act in case the fire alarm rings.

You see, this is the difference between us and developed countries. Here in the UK, almost all the buildings I've been to have (fire alarm tests) every week just to ensure that the alarm is not broken, and I've probably been instructed to exit buildings because of real fire alarms more than a dozen times since I've been here! They freak out over something as small as an electricity socket outage, we don't.

All in all, this is by far the biggest disaster I have seen so far, and as amrja said, a much needed wake up call.

اللهم احفظ هذا البلد آمنا مطمئنا يارب العالمين

Fire Alarm being ignored in Villagio?? As far as I read and heard there were no fire alarms (I mean the sound of the alarm), let alone been said that the stupid sprinkles dont work. I mean WTF? Were the sprinkles only for decoration purpose? or just to make people think that they work??

Where I work they test the fire alarm from time to time, and people roll their eyes because they are 'bored' from this. BORED I DONT CARE!! We are testing this everytime we need to!!

I have been to Gympanzee, and honestly I took my son one time there, but I was with him all the time. When we were walking towards it, I was thinking 'man, this nursery is so deep inside, so far! a kid if ran away can be lost!' since then I never took my kid in there.

I cant imagine what the parents are going thru, specially the rumor that there is a family that lost triplets, can you imagine? :cry:

Everyone if want to attend, there will be a ceremony at Aspire park I believe today at 5pm. Be there. Many will be to show their condolences and pray for the lost ones.

Sombody must be held legally responsible for these deaths.

Look at this evidence of culpable negligence at the Villagio centre:

From 2009 - photos of locked fire exits - http://www.qatarliving.com/node/394851
From 2007 - reports of fire with no alarm or sprinklers http://www.skyscrapercity.com/archive/index.php/t-560498.html
From 2006 - Yet another fire at the Villagio - and workers had to call firemen themselves!! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=9789744&postcount=563

It is Qatar Civil Defense who is responsible for signing off on all Fire Safety designs and Construction and also inspections of compliance
Mall management also should be held accountable for maintenance of Fire Safety systems.

This is a legal matter and if I was the parents of those children I would be seeking answers from both parties.

Sombody must be held legally responsible for these deaths.

Look at this evidence of culpable negligence at the Villagio centre:

From 2009 - photos of locked fire exits - http://www.qatarliving.com/node/394851
From 2007 - reports of fire with no alarm or sprinklers http://www.skyscrapercity.com/archive/index.php/t-560498.html
From 2006 - Yet another fire at the Villagio - and workers had to call firemen themselves!! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=9789744&postcount=563

It is Qatar Civil Defense who is responsible for signing off on all Fire Safety designs and Construction and also inspections of compliance
Mall management also should be held accountable for maintenance of Fire Safety systems.

This is a legal matter and if I was the parents of those children I would be seeking answers from both parties.

thank you for posting this.:ohno:

Fire Alarm being ignored in Villagio?? As far as I read and heard there were no fire alarms (I mean the sound of the alarm), let alone been said that the stupid sprinkles dont work. I mean WTF? Were the sprinkles only for decoration purpose? or just to make people think that they work??

Where I work they test the fire alarm from time to time, and people roll their eyes because they are 'bored' from this. BORED I DONT CARE!! We are testing this everytime we need to!!

I have been to Gympanzee, and honestly I took my son one time there, but I was with him all the time. When we were walking towards it, I was thinking 'man, this nursery is so deep inside, so far! a kid if ran away can be lost!' since then I never took my kid in there.

I cant imagine what the parents are going thru, specially the rumor that there is a family that lost triplets, can you imagine? :cry:

The triplets lost are not rumors. Even the New Zealand PM spoke about this as they were from New Zealand.

How could the biggest mall in Qatar have a farce alarm system? Have the fires in the towers in West Bay teach ANYbody about the saftey of fires??? How could something of this magniture happen in DOHA?!

Not to mention BHS department store at landmark mall when it burned back in 2006, there were no proper fire management systems in the store, it burned down completely while the fire fighters were there...

The triplets lost are not rumors. Even the New Zealand PM spoke about this as they were from New Zealand.

How could the biggest mall in Qatar have a farce alarm system? Have the fires in the towers in West Bay teach ANYbody about the saftey of fires??? How could something of this magniture happen in DOHA?!

Really sad news. Also 3 of the 4 spanish kids dead were brothers.

As far as I know the fire alarm does work and there were reports of people hearing it, I personally heard it several times in the past, however these tests to ensure the system is working should be done in hours where there are no people in the mall, they turned it on so often that nobody bothers to react to it, people yesterday were sitting in the cinema eating popcorn while others sipping their coffee at the cafe's without realizing that this is a serious matter.

On another side note wtf happened to the fire sprinkler systems !!? Were they added just to pass the safety tests and remained unmaintained !! :bash: who is responsible for this !

Not to mention the fact that the mall tried selling as much space as it can! The nursery area was not fit for any form of usage other than mass storage IMO, it didn't even have a single window !

This was all a disaster waiting to happen, and because of this my friend Ibrahim Imran's brother Omar Imran (1.5 years old). Died yesterday at the nursery fire, may his soul rest in peace and Allah be with him and his family.

This is the end result of building everything to the cheapest price with the cheapest materials with the cheapest labour possible.

The OWNER of this mall should be in JAIL right now
The Civil defence person or head of fire and safety who signed off this nursery should be in JAIL right now.

This was always on the cards in Doha, how many towers have had minor or major fires. The Landmark fire should have been a wakeup, what happened to their sprinklers.

How many of us live in apartment towers with out alarms, fire doors fire exits or sprinklers.

Only a number of buildings are built to the best safety standards in Qatar, the rest however are just a disaster to happen.

Every building being built right now should have proper fire alarms that connect to the civil defense automatically incase the alarm sounds for 5 minutes, smoke and heat detectors, sprinkler systems that cover all areas within the building, proper emergency staircases, a number of fire exits, fire extinguishers and hoses and a fire hydrant connection available near the building.

ESPECIALLY the new malls being built (ezdan, gulf, north gate, festival, markhiya, wakrah, Alkhor etc)

Thank god all new independent schools and kindergartens have a direct automatic connection with the civil defense, if the fire alarm sounds for more than 5 minutes the fire trucks and police would be on their way immediately.

I can't help but wonder what a catastrophe it would be if something similar happens in citycenter or landmark. The fact that they are older than villaggio...

They MUST revamp all their fire alarm systems and sprinklers and make sure of available fire exits.

Okay I'm partially relieved, here is an actual emergency evacuation plan that is placed on one of the walls in ezdan mall for everyone to see and clearly indicates the placement of several fire exits not to mention an assembly point and through the pictures posted by mj12 (thank you) I found many fire sprinklers and alarms.


22/4/2012

Ezdan mall

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Thank you alrayyan, this is a bit reassuring. Let's hope people don't forget this incident and take all the neccessary precautions in the future. Imgaine if the fire started near the cinema's box office in the Landmark, all the people in the play area would be trapped as the cinema is the only way in to/out of the play area as far as I know.

There are no available fire exits on that side !? !!

Speaking of precautions, the UAE held a meeting of all the shopping malls officials to discuss getting ready for such emergencies after they heard about the villaggio mall tragedy.

FYI both Land mark and Villaggio are owned by Abdulaziz Al-Rabban

And look at the fire records below:

Landmark mall 2006
Villaggio 2007
Villaggio 2008
Villaggio 2012

AND GUESS WHAT !!!

http://www.qnaol.net/QNAAr/Local_News/Politics2/Pages/MarriVill235929052012.aspx

Attorney General ordered the imprisonment of the owner of the mall, the owner of the gympanzee nursery and others!


Doha, May 29 / (QNA) / His Excellency Dr. Ali Bin Fetais Al-Marri Attorney General ordered this evening, the imprisonment of both the owner of Villagio, the gympanzee nursery, the complex manager, deputy director and assistant director of security and Villagio in the shadow of imvestigations conducted by the Attorney General on Villagio Complex Fire, which occurred on Monday.
He also ordered the imprisonment of the director of security, the officials behind the nursery licensand from the competent ministry and others named during the investigation.

Thank god they r doing something about it !!

Okay I'm partially relieved, here is an actual emergency evacuation plan that is placed on one of the walls in ezdan mall for everyone to see and clearly indicates the placement of several fire exits not to mention an assembly point and through the pictures posted by mj12 (thank you) I found many fire sprinklers and alarms.

Thanks for the pic, (I tweeted it by the way :D)

If I was FIFA I would insist on an independent (ie non-Qatari) safety audit of all proposed world cup facilities - including during design and construction.

Your welcome Halawala, credits for Mj12 for taking it.

If I was FIFA I would insist on an independent (ie non-Qatari) safety audit of all proposed world cup facilities - including during design and construction.
+1
I agree with you 100%, the local authorities should work on implementing proper saftey procedures in all FIFA WC related facilities to be checked by Qatari and non Qatari firms to ensure safety and security. Not to mention other buildings not related to the world cup...

If I was FIFA I would insist on an independent (ie non-Qatari) safety audit of all proposed world cup facilities - including during design and construction.

I think the design and consulting packages for the World Cup has been awarded to reputable American companies. So, I think saftey is an issue in the drawings.

RIP for the deads I'm sad I can't really imagine Villagio mall is burned I saw the videos and it was heartbreaking the news said most of the children were spanish and the fire started in Adidas store near food court I can't believe right now I was in that place like any normal day and now its burned with victims it could've been us

RIP for the deads I'm sad I can't really imagine Villagio mall is burned I saw the videos and it was heartbreaking the news said most of the children were spanish and the fire started in Adidas store near food court I can't believe right now I was in that place like any normal day and now its burned with victims it could've been us

Not adidas, but near it, specifically Nike and Puma, which was under the nursery :ohno:


Guys, check this out:


moi_qataren MOI, Qatar
@ojazeera @dohanews Mock drills conducted at Qatar Airways, Qatar Gas, Barwa Bank, Supreme Council of Health and Hyatt Plaza recently.


ahlalsunna2 شبكة اهل السنه
قطر:تجري صباح اليوم تجربة اطلاق جرس الانذار بمجمع الستي سنتر وذلك بمشاركة الدفاع المدني للتاكد من جاهزية وسائل السلامة #Qatar
Translation: "Qatar: This morning, fire alarm systems were tested at city center mall with cooperation of the civil defense to reassure the readiness of the mall and all security procedures."


talalqatar Talal J Al-Tamimi
للتوضيح والتأكيد وابراء الذمة: أصوات الدوريات والمطافي والإسعاف هذا الصباح سببها تدريب احترازي اعلنت عنه وزارة الداخلية #Qatar
Translation:"for clarification: the sounds of sirens, ambulances and fire trucks this morning were due to cautionary training by the ministry of interior"

Seems like they are learning lessons slowly..

alexandermcnabb Alexander McNabb:
The owner of the unlicensed nursery at Villagio is the daughter of Qatar’s Minister of Culture, Arts and Heritage.
She was arrested earlier.

I think the design and consulting packages for the World Cup has been awarded to reputable American companies. So, I think saftey is an issue in the drawings.

The 'Reputable' American compamies only have an obligation to fulfill their design brief - which may only state compliance with local standards, in which case that is all they will design for and may not solve anything. What is more important is that the design is actually implemented and operated.

FIFA should insiste that a full 'safety case' is prepared - not just for the stadia but for all public facilities (including Villagio) which is then reviewed by specialized sfaety consultants, and auditted at defined stages. Anything less than that would be an invitation for a PR disaster.

The 'Reputable' American compamies only have an obligation to fulfill their design brief - which may only state compliance with local standards, in which case that is all they will design for and may not solve anything. What is more important is that the design is actually implemented and operated.

FIFA should insiste that a full 'safety case' is prepared - not just for the stadia but for all public facilities (including Villagio) which is then reviewed by specialized sfaety consultants, and auditted at defined stages. Anything less than that would be an invitation for a PR disaster.

True.

I think we should think about improving broader fire saftey not for the World Cup forever. We should take big steps and reduce these tragedies from happening again.

'I'm dying': tragic last words of teacher in Doha mall fire

DOHA // A teacher who died in the Doha mall nursery fire sent a text message to her aunt saying "I'm dying", minutes before she was overcome by smoke from the blaze.

The horrific details of Monday's fire at the Gympanzee nursery in the Villaggio shopping mall emerged yesterday as Qatar's attorney general, Dr Ali bin Fetais Marri, issued five arrest warrants in connection with the blaze.

The owner of the mall, the owner of the nursery and three senior mall officials were ordered to be detained as the investigation continued.

The fire claimed the lives of 13 children, four teachers and two firefighters. Among the children who died were two-year-old triplets from New Zealand and three Spanish siblings.

Rescue crews had to hack through the roof of the mall to reach the nursery after a staircase collapsed.

As smoke and flames surrounded the nursery, two of the four teachers sent text messages and made desperate calls to family, said one of their friends, Marilyn Evangelista.

"I'm dying," one of the three Filipino teachers told her aunt in a text message. Another teacher, also from the Philippines, called her husband to say she and the children were "trapped, the smoke is too thick".

A firefighter, Abdel Khaleq Al Huwari, said rescue teams were not told there was a nursery in the mall "until half an hour after" they arrived. A mall employee eventually told them there was a nursery on the first floor.

Mr Al Huwari was one of the first into the building after the fire subsided and found his Moroccan colleague, Hossam Chahboune, lying dead on the floor "holding two children in his arms".

"The other firefighter was barely alive when we found him," said Mr Al Huwari. "We tried to save him but he died."

Several other children lay around the firefighters, all dead.

Another firefighter, Ahmed Mohsen, described Chahboune as "a leader to us" and said all the children in the nursery had died. "Five in the ambulance, three at the hospital and the rest right at the spot."

Qatar's interior ministry said after the fire that the building's sprinkler system malfunctioned and rescue efforts were hampered by a lack of floor plans. Witnesses also said some fire-exit doors were locked and that the response from mall employees was slow and inefficient.

Authorities yesterday also ordered the seizure of all Villaggio official licences as part of the investigation. It is believed the licence for Gympanzee was for a business and not an educational centre.

A relative of the day care centre’s owner said the business was not licensed through the ministry of social affairs because it was not a nursery.

“It’s always been an activity centre,” he told Doha News. “A nursery involves school...(this) is like a babysitting thing.”
In that regard, he said, Gympanzee held all the commercial permits it needed including approval from the civil defence department issued three weeks ago.

The relative also called attention to the obstacles firefighters faced during the rescue effort, including malfunctioning sprinkler systems, lack of emergency lighting and the unavailability of floor plans.

“We know there is an investigation going on and we don’t want to undermine it…this is to give a full picture,” he said.

The mall was closed to the public yesterday where investigators continued to investigate the fire-damaged sections. A team of cleaners cleared debris and washed down floors and civil defence workers guarded the complex.

Among the firefighters keeping watch was Wissam Boulmane, 23, from Morocco. He came to Qatar less than a year ago in the same group as Mr Chahboune, who died in the fire.

"It's really sad to see one of your own go, I've never heard of a firefighter dying here in Qatar," he said.

Mr Boulmane said he called in to work, along with all members of the civil defence team, to fight the blaze.

"There were hundreds of us at the scene and the fire was still burning hours after we got there", he said.

Funeral prayers were held on Tuesday for Mr Chahboune and Mahmoud Haider, the Iranian firefighter who died. Their colleagues were emotional and a few could not hold back their tears.

"We lost part of our family," said Hussam Hussein, 23, a firefighter from Tunisia who suffered smoke inhalation. "When I tried to get in through the roof the smoke was so much I fainted."

Kareem Mousad, 25, said the smoke in the building made the rescue job difficult. "You couldn't see anything in there, it was all pitch black," he said.

Ali Saeed Al Qahtani, a firefighter for five years, said it was the worst tragedy he had seen during his time with the Qatari civil defence. He said it took time for firefighters to learn that people were trapped inside.

"It took 30 minutes for us to receive word people were trapped inside. We had no idea."

tsubaihi@thenational.ae

Source: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/im-dying-tragic-last-words-of-teacher-in-doha-mall-fire

alexandermcnabb Alexander McNabb:
The owner of the unlicensed nursery at Villagio is the daughter of Qatar’s Minister of Culture, Arts and Heritage.
She was arrested earlier.

WTF!!! there is a nursery inside again WTF!!!!!

Not adidas, but near it, specifically Nike and Puma, which was under the nursery :ohno:


Guys, check this out:


moi_qataren MOI, Qatar
@ojazeera @dohanews Mock drills conducted at Qatar Airways, Qatar Gas, Barwa Bank, Supreme Council of Health and Hyatt Plaza recently.


ahlalsunna2 شبكة اهل السنه
قطر:تجري صباح اليوم تجربة اطلاق جرس الانذار بمجمع الستي سنتر وذلك بمشاركة الدفاع المدني للتاكد من جاهزية وسائل السلامة #Qatar
Translation: "Qatar: This morning, fire alarm systems were tested at city center mall with cooperation of the civil defense to reassure the readiness of the mall and all security procedures."


talalqatar Talal J Al-Tamimi
للتوضيح والتأكيد وابراء الذمة: أصوات الدوريات والمطافي والإسعاف هذا الصباح سببها تدريب احترازي اعلنت عنه وزارة الداخلية #Qatar
Translation:"for clarification: the sounds of sirens, ambulances and fire trucks this morning were due to cautionary training by the ministry of interior"

Seems like they are learning lessons slowly..

I'm glad to know that they are taking caution but it's a bit late though btw what is giing to happen in the mall are they going to be reopen? This is going to be a stamp in Qatar history!

Not adidas, but near it, specifically Nike and Puma, which was under the nursery :ohno:


Guys, check this out:


moi_qataren MOI, Qatar
@ojazeera @dohanews Mock drills conducted at Qatar Airways, Qatar Gas, Barwa Bank, Supreme Council of Health and Hyatt Plaza recently.


ahlalsunna2 شبكة اهل السنه
قطر:تجري صباح اليوم تجربة اطلاق جرس الانذار بمجمع الستي سنتر وذلك بمشاركة الدفاع المدني للتاكد من جاهزية وسائل السلامة #Qatar
Translation: "Qatar: This morning, fire alarm systems were tested at city center mall with cooperation of the civil defense to reassure the readiness of the mall and all security procedures."


talalqatar Talal J Al-Tamimi
للتوضيح والتأكيد وابراء الذمة: أصوات الدوريات والمطافي والإسعاف هذا الصباح سببها تدريب احترازي اعلنت عنه وزارة الداخلية #Qatar
Translation:"for clarification: the sounds of sirens, ambulances and fire trucks this morning were due to cautionary training by the ministry of interior"

Seems like they are learning lessons slowly..

I heard they were testing the sprinklers of Landmark Mall. I think all malls should have additional emergency exits. Sooner or later there will be more fires. We should be prepared.

Does anyone think this is the work of arson?

Wait isn't Landmark is the same is Villagio or is it a different mall? Where's located?

Wait isn't Landmark is the same is Villagio or is it a different mall? Where's located?

No, Land mark is a diffrent mall on alshamal road near algharrafa. Villaggio on the other hand is in Aspire zone on alwaab street.

Which is the Biggest because iv been there and only saw city center and Villahio I was like WTF Qatar have only 2 malls!!!

How can Villaggio allow an unlicensed nursery as a tenant?

Which is the Biggest because iv been there and only saw city center and Villahio I was like WTF Qatar have only 2 malls!!!


actually it depends when u have visited qatar last time
cuz qatar now like kinda open a new mall every one year and in 2015 i think Qatar gonna host nearly 20 malls !!

now we have
1- city center ( huge )
2- villagio mall (huge)
3- land mark ( medium)
4- lagoona mall ( medium)
5- hayat plaza ( small )
6- the gate mall ( medium)
7- royal plaza ( small)
____
the end of this year
1- ezdan mall 1 ( medium)
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next 2 years
1- doha festival city ( i thing is gonna be bigger than dubai mall !! which means extremely huge )
2- Marina mall ( huge )
3- Doha mall ( huge )
4- alwakhra mall ( medium)
5- alwakir mall ( medium)
6 - mall of alkhor ( medium)

there are lots i don't even know there names !!

Thanks for the infos iv been there month ago. Lol and city center is huge? It looked small to me lol great to see that new mall opening up

actually it depends when u have visited qatar last time
cuz qatar now like kinda open a new mall every one year and in 2015 i think Qatar gonna host nearly 20 malls !!

now we have
1- city center ( huge )
2- villagio mall (huge)
3- land mark ( medium)
4- lagoona mall ( medium)
5- hayat plaza ( small )
6- the gate mall ( medium)
7- royal plaza ( small)
____
the end of this year
1- ezdan mall 1 ( medium)
______
next 2 years
1- doha festival city ( i thing is gonna be bigger than dubai mall !! which means extremely huge )
2- Marina mall ( huge )
3- Doha mall ( huge )
4- alwakhra mall ( medium)
5- alwakir mall ( medium)
6 - mall of alkhor ( medium)

there are lots i don't even know there names !!

Are you kidding! dubai mall is the biggest in the world, doha festival city is gonna be the biggest in qatar .. and marina mall is very small i think smaller than lagoona

there are other mall you didn't mention :

North gate mall - huge
tawar mall - huge
gulf mall - big
ezdan mall - medium

and there's a huge mall in barwa city phase two but i don't know if they're gonna build it ..

They are analyzing the smoke pockets in the mall right now....

I heard they were testing the sprinklers of Landmark Mall. I think all malls should have additional emergency exits. Sooner or later there will be more fires. We should be prepared.

Does anyone think this is the work of arson?

Certainly possible (Qatar has made some dangerous enemies recently, especially a certain nearby state with absolutely no reservations when it comes to killing civilians and children) but I doubt it, at least unless evidence to the contrary is published.

There is a history of bad fire safety standards in the country (Landmark fire, fires at work camps in Sina3iyah, several towers in West Bay). I hate to say it but with that in mind, it was only a matter of time until something like this happened.

If it is a work of arson, then this has the potential to get 100x messier. However, it still doesn't excuse all of the faults and negligence that led to avoidable deaths and injuries.

Thanks for the infos iv been there month ago. Lol and city center is huge? It looked small to me lol great to see that new mall opening up

its not small its huge with 4 floors shopping area

what we should to do is to hold on cuz Doha is developing really fast and of course there would be huge malls sooner later ! :cheers:

RIP.

How can Villaggio allow an unlicensed nursery as a tenant?

I have no idea. Corruption. Wasta (networking)

The licence was "to have a Children play area, sell mineral water, sell women's clothes, sell sports apparel."

Btw, I discovered that Dubai mall is a disaster waiting to happen :S there is not one single sprinkler in the mall building , none in the hallways, ceilings and walls. All the stores I entered don't have their own systems either, so I don't really know what Emaar is expecting by not putting in the sprinkler systems to the worlds largest mall.

I believe they have much better pla?n ^^

We are talking about a 10+ car parking floors ! And 3 huge stories not to,mention the basements..,, and the only thing available is fire hoses and fire foam cylinders ? Who will use those when everyone starts panicking and runs away ?!

sprinklers sometimes are hidden with a cover that melt and fall with heat.

^^+10000

sprinklers sometimes are hidden with a cover that melt and fall with heat.
Why would it be hidden behind wood and plaster and it has to "wait" till the plastic metls ? That's weird...

Why would it be hidden behind wood and plaster and it has to "wait" till the plastic metls ? That's weird...

they are not hidden behind anything, it is just a cover and its usually soldered, the solder will melt and the cover fall. the sprinklers will only work when the temperature reaches a certain degree. you know that sprinklers have nothing to do with fire and smoke alarm as far as I know.

Btw, I discovered that Dubai mall is a disaster waiting to happen :S there is not one single sprinkler in the mall building , none in the hallways, ceilings and walls. All the stores I entered don't have their own systems either, so I don't really know what Emaar is expecting by not putting in the sprinkler systems to the worlds largest mall.

tdm if u open the fire exit alarms ring

Landmark mall seems to have taken the necessary precautions...

-EXIT signs have been installed next to all exits, in all corridors and even in stores.
-Fire hose and fire extinguishers are available in all corridors.
-Fire extinguishers available in most stores.
-Fire alarm system installed.
-Fire warning lights installed in all corridors and next to exits.
-Plans of the mall are printed in big sizes and hanged at several locations all around the mall with clear writing indicating location and exits etc.

The Pearl has also handed out plans to be hanged in all their stores, cafes and restaurants indicating fire exits.

I miss this mall so much, but I honestly don't want it to open without a full report about what happened. Every time I pass by the mall, I keep imagining if it was my little sister or someone I know who died because of the fire, it would feel horrible to see people "celebrating" it opening back... I don't think I'll ever go there again if that happened to be honest.

True, it's a great mall, probably the best in Qatar. But honestly, people should be held accountable, we should never forget this incident and demand justifications for what happened. Everyone I know seems to have somehow forgotten and they just "can't wait" for it to open because they're bored. I'm sorry, but I'd rather be "bored" than dead.

I miss this mall so much, but I honestly don't want it to open without a full report about what happened. Every time I pass by the mall, I keep imagining if it was my little sister or someone I know who died because of the fire, it would feel horrible to see people "celebrating" it opening back... I don't think I'll ever go there again if that happened to be honest.

True, it's a great mall, probably the best in Qatar. But honestly, people should be held accountable, we should never forget this incident and demand justifications for what happened. Everyone I know seems to have somehow forgotten and they just "can't wait" for it to open because they're bored. I'm sorry, but I'd rather be "bored" than dead.

villagio will soon lose it is popularity with the new coming malls especially Doha Mall and Festival city Mall.

Not to mention Ezdan and it's huge cinemas !

Not to mention Ezdan and it's huge cinemas !

Where is that?

Where is that?

Ya 7abibi Ezdan Mall next to Landmark :nuts:

Ya 7abibi Ezdan Mall next to Landmark :nuts:

There is no cinema in ezdan mall, I think you mean gulf mall

sry, i posted in the wrong thread

fire protection is really important for us because fire is big natural disaster and every mall should use fire security systems for people protections.