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Hansadyret November 20th, 2011, 02:31 PM A compromise around 25-27 billions would in no way be enough.
If we only get that high it's a good start and significantly more than today.
KiwiRob November 20th, 2011, 09:18 PM I think we need some kind of tollrings in the cities to reduce traffic jams and local air polluton etc.
I didn't have a problem toll rings in large cities but tolling the E routes is plain wrong, what do we pay petrol tax and vehicle registration for?
sidra2010143 November 20th, 2011, 09:20 PM can i see original pictures
City of Rain November 22nd, 2011, 10:57 AM Legg E39 om Stryn (http://www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/Legg-E39-om-Stryn-2613538.html)
Statens vegvesen går inn for at E39 i framtida skal gå via Stryn. Dei vrakar dermed alternativet med å gå om Eid og byggje bru frå Lote til Anda.
Hansadyret November 22nd, 2011, 11:27 AM ^^Not surprising really after they started building Kvivsvegen from Grodås. I think this is the fastest alternative, a bit expensive though.
http://www.vikanenett.no/files_user/0000000780/0000031967.jpg
Looks like they would need a bridge longer than the Hardangerbridge to cross the fjord.
Ingenioren November 22nd, 2011, 12:03 PM ^ Yes, the report recommends a 1,5km long suspension bridge here:)
Kjello0 November 22nd, 2011, 02:05 PM Better than going via Eid, but E 39 should never have gone via the inner alternative in the first place.
This was the alternatives back in 1991 when E 39 got rerouted.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5828/kyststamveg.jpg
Ingenioren November 22nd, 2011, 03:08 PM Where did it run before 1991?
Kjello0 November 22nd, 2011, 03:27 PM Between Antwerp in Belgium and Aachen in Germany. :)
Ingenioren November 22nd, 2011, 03:36 PM It's not rerouting, but renumbering. E39 follows the trasé of Rv1 and Rv71.
Hansadyret November 22nd, 2011, 07:18 PM ^ Yes, the report recommends a 1,5km long suspension bridge here:)
Nice, i like long bridges:)
I allso like how this alternative connects E39 and rv.15, but after watching vestlandsrevyen tonight i realize the bitching has just begun. Everyone wants E39 to pass thorough their municipal. I will not be surprised if we end up with a longer and more expensive E39.
KiwiRob November 22nd, 2011, 09:50 PM I'm looking forward to seeing the bridge going up between Midsund and Molde, and the link between Midsund and Gossen, I'll be able to see both from my house. Aukra kommune are also investigating a tunnel between Gossen and Jendem.
Ingenioren November 22nd, 2011, 10:49 PM You will have moved long before these projects get u/c...
Nice, i like long bridges:)
I allso like how this alternative connects E39 and rv.15, but after watching vestlandsrevyen tonight i realize the bitching has just begun. Everyone wants E39 to pass thorough their municipal. I will not be surprised if we end up with a longer and more expensive E39.
Further north are planned a 1,6km long and 2km long bridge aswell.
Kjello0 December 12th, 2011, 09:45 PM Two years ago 15 km of the E 39 along Vinjefjorden was renovated. The 8 km east of and the 30 km west of this piece was left untouched even tough the standard is really bad there as well. After the new piece opened the traffic has doubled from 700 to 1 500. And the truck traffic has tripled from about 150 to 500. Today two people was killed in an accident between a car and a truck on the 8 km piece. And 3 people is at the hospital with severe injuries. The road where the accident happened is only 5,5 meters wide. And is planned to be renovated in 2014-2019.
I just don't get why they don't build longer pieces in one. It's both cheaper and it saves time.
essenze December 12th, 2011, 10:27 PM Two years ago 15 km of the E 39 along Vinjefjorden was renovated. The 8 km east of and the 30 km west of this piece was left untouched even tough the standard is really bad there as well. After the new piece opened the traffic has doubled from 700 to 1 500. And the truck traffic has tripled from about 150 to 500. Today two people was killed in an accident between a car and a truck on the 8 km piece. And 3 people is at the hospital with severe injuries. The road where the accident happened is only 5,5 meters wide. And is planned to be renovated in 2014-2019.
I just don't get why they don't build longer pieces in one. It's both cheaper and it saves time.
It's simply because we got a bunch of mediocre hypocrite politicians governing this country. If people want change, they have to vote for change!
marshol December 19th, 2011, 09:34 PM Vegvesenet med gedigen regnefeil (http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/sorlandet/1.7922431) :ohno:
bookings December 20th, 2011, 11:55 AM Palmafoss-Mønshaug and Tunsbergtunnelen officially opened today, near Voss (http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Farvel-med-Skjervet-6725010.html)
Vegvesen.no: Tunsbergtunnelen (http://www.vegvesen.no/Vegprosjekter/rv13vossgranvin), here:
http://www.vegvesen.no/Vegprosjekter/rv13vossgranvin/_image/194785.png?_encoded=2f66666666666678302f35382f29303435286874646977656c616373&_ts=12dc7281180
...and Palmafoss-Mønshaug (http://www.vegvesen.no/Vegprosjekter/rv13palmafossmonshaug) with this picture:
http://www.vegvesen.no/Vegprosjekter/rv13palmafossmonshaug/_image/65973.png?_encoded=2f66666666666678302f35382f29303435286874646977656c616373&_ts=12d9da4db18
..and by the way; they messed up their calculations again, this time it came out better than planned!
Veistykkene som ble åpnet i dag er bygget raskere og billigere enn antatt. Byggetiden er kuttet med et halvt år, og sluttsummen kommer sannsynligvis på 530 millioner 2011-kroner, mot 643 millioner kroner i det opprinnelige overslaget.
Ingenioren December 21st, 2011, 01:32 PM Cheers to that, Skjervet is absolutly beautiful piece of road - but treacherous!
marshol December 22nd, 2011, 06:00 PM Possible new E39 over/under Sognefjorden. (http://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/article3298152.ece)
http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=980&height=-1&url=http://www.nettavisen.no/multimedia/na/archive/00856/Sognefjorden_med_85682216x9.jpg
Forbanna December 22nd, 2011, 10:14 PM Vegvesenet med gedigen regnefeil (http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/sorlandet/1.7922431) :ohno:
Regnefeil på 11 milliarder endrer lite. (http://www.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/politikk/--Regnefeil-pa-11-milliarder-endrer-lite-2909045.html)
Nordicon December 22nd, 2011, 11:09 PM ^^
Going to Østfold tomorrow.
Stavanger-Kristiansand is the worst part. :ohno:
It really needs improvements.
Forbanna December 22nd, 2011, 11:31 PM ^^
Just drove from Oslo to Sandnes, most of the road Oslo-Kr.Sand is alright, and by 2016 or so it should be completely up to date.
Really hoping for a swift desicion for the Kr.Sand-Sandnes stretch, really hate driving behind Semi-Trailers and such in 60km/h in the 80/90 zone.
Forbanna December 23rd, 2011, 12:46 AM Not sure if this would be the correct thread.
Found this in SA and I would say it's a really innovative thought on how to get bikers off of the roads.
http://sa.mnocdn.no/incoming/article2907973.ece/ALTERNATES/w780c169/ny+sykkel.jpg?updated=191220111424
Tør vi tenke originalt?
Regnvær og motvind er de største argumentene mot å sykle. En sykkeltunell på Motorveien vil få flere til å sykle, og med el-sykler blir den en rask, trygg og rimelig løsning.
Newspaper Article. (http://www.aftenbladet.no/debatt/Tor-vi-tenke-originalt-2907974.html)
Ingenioren December 23rd, 2011, 12:12 PM Such a bycicle tube was proposed in Bodø a few years back. But studies show a general upgrade of cycling infrastructure would give more benefit per invested krone...
And... Are Stavanger-people seriously using E39/E18 to drive east when the Fv42/Rv41/E134 is shorter and completly free from tolls?
Nordicon December 24th, 2011, 12:18 AM Such a bycicle tube was proposed in Bodø a few years back. But studies show a general upgrade of cycling infrastructure would give more benefit per invested krone...
And... Are Stavanger-people seriously using E39/E18 to drive east when the Fv42/Rv41/E134 is shorter and completly free from tolls?
Now I was on my way to Østfold not Oslo, that would not be shorter in my case.
Ingenioren December 25th, 2011, 08:57 AM Still can use the Fv42 untill Arendal to skip some 75kr of tolls... :)
Nordicon December 25th, 2011, 08:36 PM Still can use the Fv42 untill Arendal to skip some 75kr of tolls... :)
Nice =)
But are the roads straight?
My mom always gets carsick, that is mostly the reason for E39/E18 :ohno:
Ingenioren December 26th, 2011, 08:31 PM The road runs perpendicular to the great valleys so there is a lot of climbs and decents with sharp turns :P
Nordicon December 27th, 2011, 12:02 AM The road runs perpendicular to the great valleys so there is a lot of climbs and decents with sharp turns :P
I think such roads are great fun, a view not shared by my mom :lol:
mjoks007 December 30th, 2011, 11:49 AM Dette er Kleppas muligheter
Hvis Regjeringen skal sikre et topp moderne vei- og jernbanenett innen 20 år, må flere gigantprosjekter bygges samtidig. Det forutsetter en revolusjon for finansiering av samferdselsprosjekter.
Og revolusjon kan nå bli en realitet. Regjeringen og Stortinget vet de står overfor et veiskille for norsk infrastruktur. Andre land har gjort det som samferdselsminister Magnhild Meltveit Kleppa nå skal prøve, nemlig å finne penger til flere store prosjekter samtidig. Her er metodene Regjeringen nå vurderer.
I 2019 skal Follobanen stå ferdig. Den koster minst 10 mrd.
Men for at vei og jernbane skal nå et "tipp topp nivå på 20 år", slik Kleppa flere ganger har uttalt, trenger Norge ifølge hennes egne samferdselsplanleggere også:
Dobbeltspor på hele InterCity-triangelet. Ny jernbanetunnelen under Oslo. Ny T-banetunnel gjennom Oslo. Eventuelt lyntog. En motorvei forbi Oslo for å dempe gjennomfarten. Alt dette skal skje samtidig som moderniseringen av E18, E6, E16 og E39 fullføres.
Totalt vil dette koste et tresifret antall milliarder.
Må tenke nytt
Problemet er at det i den norske modellen, hvor alt skal finansieres over det årlige statsbudsjettet, ikke lar seg gjøre å gjennomføre flere av disse prosjektene samtidig. Som det heter i Samferdselsdepartementets egen ferske rapport, "Hovedutfordringer for norsk jernbane":
"Hvis norsk jernbane skal spille en styrket og sentral rolle i det fremtidige transportsystemet, må måten vi planlegger og bygger ut jernbanen på, hvordan vedtak om dette blir fattet og hvordan utbyggingen blir finansiert, skje på en annen måte enn i dag."
Andre land har stått i den samme situasjonen, og både Kleppa og transportkomiteen på Stortinget har vært på studiereiser for å finne svar.
Det som går igjen hos dem som lykkes, er dette:
Sveits
Sveits er regnet som verdensmester i tog, og har i år hatt studiebesøk både av Kleppa og av transportkomiteen på Stortinget. Der er finansieringen sikret et fond som nå er på 23 milliarder euro, eller 178 milliarder kroner, for jernbanen alene. Flere partier på Stortinget, som Frp og H, har foreslått lignende fond.
Østerrike
Østerrike har opprettet et statlig aksjeselskap som har ansvaret for infrastrukturen. En slik modell er delvis satt ut i livet i Norge ved omorganiseringen av Luftfartsverket til Avinor, et statlig aksjeselskap som finansierer seg selv ved bl.a. avgiftsinntekter og låneopptak.
Norske alternativer
Å organisere store prosjekter som egne selskaper, slik det ble gjort for Gardermoenutbyggingen, er et annet alternativ. Venstre er ett av partiene som støtter en slik ordning.
Venstre ønsker også en ordning med salg av statsgaranterte obligasjoner, som investorer, bedrifter og private kan kjøpe, og der pengene kan brukes f.eks. til å gi jernbanen et løft.
Slik gjør de det i Sverige
Stockholm/Oslo
I Sverige har fagfolkene i Trafikverket langt større innflytelse enn Vegvesenet og Jernbaneverket har i Norge. De prioriterer og bygger selv ut fra en pengepott de får fra Staten.
- Vi skjöter alt, sier planlegger Maria Boman i Trafikverket.
Med det mener hun at hennes arbeidsplass håndterer alt fra vei til bane og sjøtransport i Sverige. Og at Trafikverket har stor innflytelse på hvilke samferdselsprosjekter som skal realiseres.
Regjeringen gir et oppdrag, og en viss sum med penger. Oppdraget er fra periode til periode mer tematisk enn i Norge. Som f.eks. vedlikehold, investeringer eller annet, forklarer Boman og Thomas Eriksson, divisjonssjef for kortsiktig planlegging i Trafikverket.
For 2010–2021 har Trafikverket 217 mrd. til nybygging/ombygging av eksisterende veinett og 200 mrd. til drift og vedlikehold til rådighet, for vei, bane og sjø.
I tillegg bidrar de 21 lenene/fylkene med 33 mrd.
- Regjeringen har også spyttet inn 6 mrd. ekstra i år og neste år, på toppen av potten for de ordinære midlene, sier Eriksson.
Bestemte nesten 100 prosent
- Dere foreslår for Regjeringen hvordan pengene skal brukes. I hvilken grad får dere gjennomslag?
- Sist var det vel bortimot 100 prosent. Eller, det var noen justeringer, de ville ha mer penger til innføring av køprising (trengselsskatt) i Göteborg, sier Eriksson.
- Involverer Riksdagen seg i arbeidet, som ved prioriteringer dere gjør i Trafikverket?
- Det skal mye til. Riksdagen går sjelden ned på de enkelte objektene, sier Boman.
- Har Regjeringen noensinne stanset et prosjekt som er startet, med bakgrunn i kutt i de årlige statsbudsjettene?
- Det har vel ikke hent. Det har hendt at noe er blitt forsinket, men Regjeringen går ikke inn og detaljstyrer. De jobber med rammene, sier Boman.
Ser lønnsomheten
De to forteller at mange samferdselsprosjekter i Sverige blir vurdert som samfunnsøkonomisk lønnsomme, noe som er sjeldent i Norge.
- Den beregnede, gjennomsnittlige nettoverdien for konkrete prosjekter i det eksisterende planforslaget er på ca. 1,0 prosent. Det betyr at samfunnet får igjen to kroner for hver investerte krone. For vei- og baneprosjekter ligger nettoverdien noe over dette, for sjøfartsprosjekter betydelig under. Vi beregner ut fra 40 års levetid, sier Boman.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Dette-er-Kleppas-muligheter-6730467.html
Beef Jerky January 5th, 2012, 06:38 PM Here's how the new 'varroddbroa' will look like, hopefully finished in 2017 :)
http://www.fvn.no/lokalt/kristiansand/Slik-blir-den-nye-Varoddbroa-2178569.html
muster January 10th, 2012, 03:57 PM http://www.tu.no/bygg/article294346.ece
Galro January 10th, 2012, 06:47 PM Vil ha to løp i Oslofjordtunnelen (http://www.bygg.no/2012/01/vil-ha-to-loep-i-oslofjordtunnelen)
Not a fan.
IceCheese January 10th, 2012, 06:55 PM http://www.tu.no/bygg/article294346.ece
Welcome back!
We actually debated that article back when it was new in November..;)
Mulefisk January 10th, 2012, 08:52 PM Vil ha to løp i Oslofjordtunnelen (http://www.bygg.no/2012/01/vil-ha-to-loep-i-oslofjordtunnelen)
Not a fan.
You're not a fan of this?
For å kunne åpne Oslofjordtunnelen for tunge kjøretøyer så raskt som mulig, vil Statens vegvesen nå bygge 26 evakueringsrom i tunnelen. Nå starter Statens vegvesen arbeidet med å anskaffe en entreprenør til jobben.
Evakueringsrommene skal bygges med 250 meters mellomrom, i de opprinnelige tverrslagene, gjennom den 7,3 kilometer lange tunnelen. Rommene vil bli utstyrt med:
• røyktette dører
• lys
• telefon til Vegtrafikksentralen
• kameraovervåking til Vegtrafikksentralen
• ledelys som viser veg inn til evakueringsrommene
Granted, that was a very misleading headline. The new tunnel isn't even mentioned in the article.
Ingenioren January 10th, 2012, 08:55 PM This one has more on the new tube:
http://dt.no/nyheter/foreslar-to-lop-i-oslofjordtunnelen-1.6706933
Double-tube tunnel was planned already in the 80s, but after locating the airport north of Oslo it was decided to make it single-tube untill traffic had increased.
Galro January 10th, 2012, 10:01 PM You're not a fan of this?
I'm not a fan of using huge money on it full stop. It's then better to just build the bridge crossing that should have been from beginning. That's better solution in every imaginable way.
Granted, that was a very misleading headline. The new tunnel isn't even mentioned in the article.
No, it is mentioned (although the article is badly written):
Statens vegvesen ønsker å starte planleggingen for å bygge løp nummer 2 i Oslofjordtunnelen, samt å utvikle rv. 23 til firefelt på strekningen Vassum – Måna i Frogn kommune.
Av: Byggeindustrien | Publisert: 10.01.2012 14:40 | Sist endret: 10.01.2012 14:46
I et møte i Vegdirektoratet mandag 9. januar 2012 orienterte Statens vegvesen fylkesordførerne i Buskerud og Akershus og ordførerne i Lier, Røyken, Hurum og Frogn om planene. Antatt kostnad vil være opp mot 1,5 mrd. kr. Finansieringen tenkes basert på at bompenger fortsatt kreves inn i nåværende bomstasjon ved Måna, melder vegvesen.no.
Statens vegvesen tar sikte på at det i løpet av våren 2012 blir oversendt en sak til behandling i de berørte kommuner og fylkeskommuner.
Ingenioren January 10th, 2012, 11:16 PM I'm not a fan of using huge money on it full stop. It's then better to just build the bridge crossing that should have been from beginning. That's better solution in every imaginable way.
Huge money is what you want to spend - with a new bridge (and connecting road) the pricetag will run over 1,5mrd for a 2-lane road instead of widening current road and make twin-tube tunnels? The refuges would be built already this year aswell unless truck traffic is to reroute untill bridge opens.
Kjello0 January 11th, 2012, 12:04 AM Build a bridge and use the tunnel as a Co2 disposal. I bet they can store quite a few tons of Co2 down there.
muster January 12th, 2012, 05:14 PM Welcome back!
We actually debated that article back when it was new in November..;)
Oh, you did? Sorry then for not paying attention. I haven't been away, just slowed down a bit.. lurking with my eyes half open.
City of Rain January 12th, 2012, 08:32 PM Whatever happened to India? That's where we thought you were..
Hurban January 22nd, 2012, 03:21 PM E24 (21.Jan): - Tunneler for dyre i drift. Broer er fremtiden (http://e24.no/makro-og-politikk/undersjoeiske-tunneler-for-dyre-i-drift/20144521)
marshol January 22nd, 2012, 04:43 PM ^^ Hope they realize that with Oslofjorden as well.
muster January 23rd, 2012, 05:57 PM ^^ Hope they realize that with Oslofjorden as well.
Like this? (http://www.nettavisen.no/motor/article3318860.ece)
http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=980&height=-1&url=http://www.nettavisen.no/multimedia/na/archive/00885/tage_pettersen___88510216x9.jpg
Galro January 23rd, 2012, 06:05 PM Why have it that far down where the fjord is so much wider and the cost will be so much higher? A bridge crossing the fjord at Drøbak with freeways connecting e6 and e18 on each side will still be a very short and effective route.
marshol January 23rd, 2012, 08:45 PM ^^ An even bigger and more spectacular bridge. Isn't that cool?
A bridge at this location will also replace Bastøferga in addition to Oslofjordtunnellen. This is also where E6 is closest to E18. With a Drøbak crossing, you'll have to drive the whole of Hurum and more to reach E18.
marshol January 23rd, 2012, 09:07 PM ..just to continue.
A highway crossing the fjord, should also be extended to reach E18 in Østfold, I think. From Moss to Askim or Mysen (and further to Sweden), so that we'll have a triangle of highways there:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/rwerews.jpg
Ingenioren January 23rd, 2012, 11:07 PM ^ Might aswell add a Mysen - Gardermoen motorway while you're at it :)
essenze January 23rd, 2012, 11:40 PM This location for a bridge crossing is just plain nonsense. The distance shore-to-shore is over 5 km, meaning a bridge must be around 6 km long! The longest suspension bridge in the world is this one in Japan, with a total length of 3900m. Tower heights are 280m !!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Akashi_Bridge.JPG/800px-Akashi_Bridge.JPG
Hardangerbrua, which is a pretty large bridge too, has by comparison "only" a total length of 1380m.
mjoks007 January 23rd, 2012, 11:52 PM And a Oslofjord crossing have to be made as one single suspension bridge?
essenze January 24th, 2012, 12:46 AM And a Oslofjord crossing have to be made as one single suspension bridge?
Hehe, i thought about writing that precaution, but decided to take any further discussion later. The answer is I don't know. That depends on the water depth profile and the seabed conditions. Storebelt bridge consists of a long stretch of column bridge at both ends, and is 6+ km overall length. My guess is that the Oslo fjord is deeper than the sea at Storebelt. But anyway, even if a similar thing is technically possible, the costs are astronomical...
IceCheese January 24th, 2012, 01:11 AM Hehe, i thought about writing that precaution, but decided to take any further discussion later. The answer is I don't know. That depends on the water depth profile and the seabed conditions. Storebelt bridge consists of a long stretch of column bridge at both ends, and is 6+ km overall length. My guess is that the Oslo fjord is deeper than the sea at Storebelt. But anyway, even if a similar thing is technically possible, the costs are astronomical...
150 m according to this article: http://tb.no/nyheter/radyrt-med-oslofjordbro-1.1450207
mjoks007 January 24th, 2012, 01:21 AM Hehe, i thought about writing that precaution, but decided to take any further discussion later. The answer is I don't know. That depends on the water depth profile and the seabed conditions. Storebelt bridge consists of a long stretch of column bridge at both ends, and is 6+ km overall length. My guess is that the Oslo fjord is deeper than the sea at Storebelt. But anyway, even if a similar thing is technically possible, the costs are astronomical...
You're right, judging by google earth its quite deep and steep. But, like whats been proposed for E39, a 5 km. long pontoon bridge (http://www.tu.no/bygg/article285727.ece) could as well work here.
kjetilab January 24th, 2012, 01:56 AM A bridge over Oslofjorden must either have a submerged section, or a sea clearing of around 50-60 metres to let the biggest ships past. I guess that would be easier to achieve on a Drøbak-Hurum crossing...
mjoks007 January 26th, 2012, 04:57 PM Debatten tonight on NRK1, 21:30:
Forbud mot dieselbiler. Rushtidavgift og mer og mer bompenger. Bilistene må punge ut, men blir det bedre miljø,veier og kollektivtilbud?
IceCheese January 26th, 2012, 10:38 PM ^^Not that I watched the broadcast, but for me, local climate will always trumph the others. We need to face the fact that with our current car park, we're forcing a big group of people out of the city due to the high pollution and health problems it comes with. This is not about "bilistene som må punge ut", this is about putting a strain on a huge social issue that 100s of thousands get affected by every day, especially in winters.
bookings January 31st, 2012, 03:04 PM 150 m according to this article: http://tb.no/nyheter/radyrt-med-oslofjordbro-1.1450207
FYI Gule sider has incorporated quite detailed coastal maps, so you can find depth curves, sea lanes, cables, and everything for the Moss-Horten area here (http://kart.gulesider.no/m/9QiZr), in case forumers want to speculate on alternative solutions. For instance, it's quite helpful for looking at the Møreaksen-alternatives to connect Moldelandet-Oterøya (Julsundet is 500 m deep)-Tautra-land. A lot of ridges and shallows, the fjords are not always deep everywhere...
bookings January 31st, 2012, 03:10 PM E6 and Dovrebanen from Minnesund-northwards
Call for tenders for the first 6.3 km (http://www.e6-dovrebanen.no/Hjem/Nytt+stort+oppdrag+lyst+ut.299673.cms) of both road and double track railway. Last time I checked the project was quite on track time-wise, but this confirms at least that construction will start in May this year (I know, tons of preparatory work has been going on for a while). The project includes a wooden bridge for the railway, of all things
Galro February 15th, 2012, 03:08 PM Kjør ny e-18
Wm0nMYDw9SQ#!
marshol February 21st, 2012, 06:07 PM Quoting myself from the Bergen thread:
Slik vil de fjerne Sotra-køene (http://www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/Slik-vil-de-fjerne-Sotra-koene-2658063.html#.T0PODfV9OSp)
...and then put Bybanen on the old bridge and we have a winner!
bookings February 24th, 2012, 05:50 PM Oslofjord tunnel to allow trucks up to 12 m. from Monday
Mandag 27. februar kl. 07.00 åpnes Oslofjordtunnelen for tunge kjøretøy (http://www.vegvesen.no/Om+Statens+vegvesen/Media/Siste+nyheter/Vis?key=311902)
bookings March 20th, 2012, 12:37 PM New video of the stretch Minnesund-Espa for both E6 and double-track rr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6OQBT-WZGE
The sight from Mjøsa will surely be sad, with three layers (local road too) of transportation having been literally cast in stone. This is prime "sea-shore" being turned into a new pre-2000 bjørvika, closed off from the hinterland by massive roads.
Don't get me wrong, I DO look forward to the improved communications, and acknowledge the road will have to be somewhere.
Mulefisk March 20th, 2012, 05:34 PM Indeed. Views from the railroad will be great though!
marshol March 21st, 2012, 12:10 AM Nice video render, they have improved!
Galro March 23rd, 2012, 10:54 AM Krever inn bompenger før veien er planlagt (http://www.bygg.no/2012/03/86503.0)
"I mai starter innkrevingen av bompenger ved Lillesand i Aust-Agder. Men den nye E18 som pengene skal gå til, er ikke engang planlagt og er ikke nevnt i Nasjonal transportplan."
:nuts: :doh:
essenze March 23rd, 2012, 04:03 PM Krever inn bompenger før veien er planlagt (http://www.bygg.no/2012/03/86503.0)
"I mai starter innkrevingen av bompenger ved Lillesand i Aust-Agder. Men den nye E18 som pengene skal gå til, er ikke engang planlagt og er ikke nevnt i Nasjonal transportplan."
:nuts: :doh:
Jajaja.. myndighetene blir bare mer og mer skamløse. Ingenting overrasker meg lenger når det gjelder udugelighet, inkompetanse og frekkhet.
Likevel fortsetter folk å stemme på dem....:ohno:
katia72 April 1st, 2012, 06:15 PM Jajaja.. myndighetene blir bare mer og mer skamløse. Ingenting overrasker meg lenger når det gjelder udugelighet, inkompetanse og frekkhet.
Likevel fortsetter folk å stemme på dem....:ohno:
Fatter ikke at ingen gidder å demonstrere mot dette..?!? Det ser ut til at folk gidder ikke å bry seg egentlig....eller spørre seg , ".....hvorfor egentlig betaler jeg så mye i avgifter..?"
IceCheese May 4th, 2012, 06:07 AM Fylkesmann Tora Berger (SV) is making things hard for Statens Vegvesen and the population of Rogaland during the treatment of a new motorway E39 between Sandnes and Gjesdal: http://www.aftenbladet.no/nyheter/lokalt/sandnes/Stopper-fire-felt-mellom-Sandnes-og-Algard-2967475.html
Insane much?:weird: The only thing I missed was a comment on Bybanen.
Galro May 4th, 2012, 10:53 AM :nuts:
Waluigi May 6th, 2012, 03:00 PM Photos from the construction of Solasplitten:
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2968782.ece/BINARY/w780/splitt1b.jpg
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2968787.ece/BINARY/w780/splitt6b.jpg
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2968790.ece/BINARY/w780/splitt9b.jpg
http://www.aftenbladet.no/nyheter/lokalt/stavanger/Innspurt-pa-Solasplitten-2968292.html#.T6Z1zJ8thB9
The project is estimated finished by December 2012.
IceCheese May 11th, 2012, 04:39 PM Ryfast one step closer to construction start, which is expected later this year, apparantly: http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/sd/pressesenter/pressemeldinger/2012/ryfast-ferjefritt-mellom-nord-jaren-og-r.html?id=682160
Ryfast omfattar to undersjøiske toløps tunnelar med to køyrefelt i kvar retning.
It will have eight lanes, two motorways besides eachother?:weird:
Waluigi May 11th, 2012, 06:31 PM Perhaps a clumsy sentence, but it will not be eight lanes. There will be two under-water tunnels, the first one from E39 to Hundvåg, and the second one from Hundvåg to Solbakk.
Tunnelen mellom E39 i Stavanger og Hundvåg (Hundvågtunnelen) er 5,7 kilometer lang, medan tunnelen mellom Hundvåg og Solbakk i Strand kommune er 14,3 kilometer lang.
Eiganestunnelen is also a part of this project, however non of it under water. It will go from E39 to Tasta.
Waluigi May 12th, 2012, 02:12 AM How Ryfast will be built
Project manager Tor Geir Espedal explains how the different parts of the tunnel project is planned.
http://www.aftenbladet.no/tv/Slik-blir-Ryfast-bygget-2972109.html#.T62m6Z8thB8
Maps of the tunnels:
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2971708.ece/BINARY/w780/Ryfast+oversikt+nett
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2971812.ece/BINARY/w780/Ryfast+del+1.png
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2971818.ece/BINARY/w780/Ryfast+del+2.png
http://www.aftenbladet.no/incoming/article2971819.ece/BINARY/w780/Ryfast+del+3.png
http://www.aftenbladet.no/nyheter/lokalt/ryfylke/Se-kart-over-Ryfast-2971713.html#.T62rlJ8thB8
IceCheese May 16th, 2012, 08:53 PM NCC has gotten the job for E18 Østfold Homstvedt-Melleby (step 6 out of 9 on Vinterbro/E6 to Swedish border). The stretch will not be motorway standard all the way, but partly narrow 4-laner and partly seperated 2+1-lane roads with occasional passing lanes.
Expected construction start is in August, with two years of construction time.
http://www.bygg.no/2012/05/89339.0
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkBQcfmC-lo (Homstvedt and this stretch start at 1:40)
mjoks007 May 22nd, 2012, 01:32 PM Kleppa åpner for ny finansiering av vei og bane (http://www.bygg.no/2012/05/89433.0)
GlennHGSD May 23rd, 2012, 10:47 AM Liten oppdatering fra T forbindelsen: http://www.h-avis.no/nyheter/du-betaler-forst-ved-mjasund-1.7363813 Du slipper bompenger om du skal fra Haugesund - Karmøy, men til tysvær tunnel armen blir det dyrt.
Noen tanker om det?
Ingenioren May 24th, 2012, 09:14 AM Dyrt? 26 kr? :P
GlennHGSD May 25th, 2012, 02:17 PM Så, noen viste meg en link av ett bilde av en norsk motorvei, stemmer dette, gjør vi om den hvite midtlinja til gult fra nå av?
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/14052012058.jpg
IceCheese May 25th, 2012, 02:47 PM ^^Ja. Se midtstripetråden i Motorways&highways-seksjonen for mer detaljer!:)
GlennHGSD May 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM hvor? o.o prøvde å finne den, det var i autobahns & highways du mente?
IceCheese May 25th, 2012, 04:54 PM Her er visst tråden: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=444455
Ikke lett å finne med aktivitetsnivået i det forumet. Siste to sidene er vel mest aktuelle.
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