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eXSBass
November 21st, 2004, 12:52 AM
If any one could answer these questions I would really appreciate it.

1) If an Architect designs a builing does he/she/group have to design the plan of every floor?

2) Architecure is a 7 year course in Uni. 5 years in study and 2 years in work. Can this be cut down?

3) How much does an Architect get payed? A bonus for every building they design?


Thanks.

Kit
November 21st, 2004, 02:21 PM
If any one could answer these questions I would really appreciate it.

1) If an Architect designs a builing does he/she/group have to design the plan of every floor?

2) Architecure is a 7 year course in Uni. 5 years in study and 2 years in work. Can this be cut down?

3) How much does an Architect get payed? A bonus for every building they design?


Thanks.

1) Depends. Usually, the architect does the internal planning unless there is specific instructions to leave the entire floor free for future configurations.

2) Depends on where you go. Some uni offers 5 or 6 year programme with 1 year or none allocated to industrial attachments.

3) Architects' fees are usually a % of the entire contract sum.

Kit
November 21st, 2004, 02:23 PM
There are no definite answers to your questions. Varies from country to country.

capslock
November 22nd, 2004, 04:01 PM
If any one could answer these questions I would really appreciate it.

1) If an Architect designs a builing does he/she/group have to design the plan of every floor?

2) Architecure is a 7 year course in Uni. 5 years in study and 2 years in work. Can this be cut down?

3) How much does an Architect get payed? A bonus for every building they design?


Thanks.

2) My breakdown in the UK was 4 years first degree, 2 years second degree and then one year part time while working for my Part 3, (which is the final professional qualification - kinda the equivalent of a Phd for scientists)

3) Not enough! For a sole practictioner it works like Kit said above but other wise, check out www.architects-online.org for the latest average salaries in the UK & US.

plotstyle
November 23rd, 2004, 03:35 AM
yeah dont earn much in other words you dont do it for the money unless u think your going to be famous...

Gendo
November 23rd, 2004, 11:51 AM
I believe Architects in the U.S. earn about 10% (+/- 1%) on average of the contract's sum. A million dollar contract earned you $100,000 (assuming you worked on it alone). Architects don't make a mother load (unless you're Cesar Pelli), but high five to low six figures is average for an experienced architect. Coming straight out of college, you'll probably make $30,000-40,000 per year in the architectural firm that hires you, and you'll be working as an apprentice/assistant.

In the U.S. you can get a Bachelor's Degree in about 5 years (it's what I'm working on at Idaho State University). It could be done in 4 years if you cram a lot of credits into every semester.

If you take a lot of engineering classes (for your minor or double major), you'll gain more competence for designing larger structures like skyscrapers, which is where the real money is.

Mike_
November 25th, 2004, 02:04 PM
I believe Architects in the U.S. earn about 10% (+/- 1%) on average of the contract's sum. A million dollar contract earned you $100,000 (assuming you worked on it alone). Architects don't make a mother load (unless you're Cesar Pelli), but high five to low six figures is average for an experienced architect. Coming straight out of college, you'll probably make $30,000-40,000 per year in the architectural firm that hires you, and you'll be working as an apprentice/assistant.

In the U.S. you can get a Bachelor's Degree in about 5 years (it's what I'm working on at Idaho State University). It could be done in 4 years if you cram a lot of credits into every semester.

If you take a lot of engineering classes (for your minor or double major), you'll gain more competence for designing larger structures like skyscrapers, which is where the real money is.

Do you need an actual degree in Engineering as well as Arch. to work on projects like skyscrapers?

I want to design big things rather than your average house or small commercial project.. but i dont particularly want to do all the engineering stuff involved in big projects.. ideally, i would like to be in charge of the design only.

Kevinkhoo1986
November 25th, 2004, 02:32 PM
I believe Architects in the U.S. earn about 10% (+/- 1%) on average of the contract's sum. A million dollar contract earned you $100,000 (assuming you worked on it alone).

$100.000! isn't it quite a lot for a million dollar contract? By the way, Usually how many manpower and how many months it took to complete a one million dollar contract?

capslock
November 25th, 2004, 03:38 PM
Depends on time aswell. We've just completed a £7 million pound job on a 6% fee (£420,000). The team was four people at it's peak (getting all the tender information done) but generally just two of us full time for about a year and a half. Bearing in mind that out of that £420,000 come rent, equipment etc aswell as salaries it's really not a whole lot.

Percentages vary aswell depending on the job. Speculative commercial offices for example in the UK tend to be for a 5 - 7% fee whereas a tricky detailed residential refurbishment / extension could start nudging towards 20%. This is due to the relative level of complexity involved and doesn't necessarily reflect larger profits.

Kevinkhoo1986
November 26th, 2004, 07:56 PM
That's mean if your company get a 7 million dollar contract, it is sufficient for the employer to keep the company run for a few years? Let's say if something really bad happen to the company and the company did not obtain any new project for a long time, what other thing that they can do to keep the company running?

Gendo
November 27th, 2004, 06:25 AM
Do you need an actual degree in Engineering as well as Arch. to work on projects like skyscrapers?

I want to design big things rather than your average house or small commercial project.. but i dont particularly want to do all the engineering stuff involved in big projects.. ideally, i would like to be in charge of the design only.

Not necessarily, but I think it helps to know some engineering stuff in order to know how long you can make a custom designed truss for an example.

If I remember correctly David Childs (or is it Libeskind) has never designed a skyscraper, but now has helped design the Freedom Tower. I'm not aware that either has an engineering degree, but I do not know for certain.

I think in a lot of skyscraper designing, a structural engineer is probably consulted quite a bit by the architect. You also probably need a mechanical engineer to help design the lighting, heating, elevators, security systems, etc.


Oh and as far as 10%, that can vary from 5%-over 10%. It depends how good of an architect you are. Pelli and Foster probably make about 10% for their work. Some small time architect in Idaho designing stick framed houses might only make 5%. It depends on your talent, skill, and artistic abilities. The higher demand for your work and the higher regard people have for you work, the more money people/corporations are willing to shell out for one of your prestigious designs.

Kit
December 5th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Most projects, the architects are assisted by a panel of consultants. The usuals are civil & structural engineers, mechanical & electrical engineers, quatity surveyors, etc..... the list goes on. Most of the time, the architects are in charge of coordinating the efforts of various consultants.

MCarr
December 5th, 2004, 05:34 AM
Most projects, the architects are assisted by a panel of consultants. The usuals are civil & structural engineers, mechanical & electrical engineers, quatity surveyors, etc..... the list goes on. Most of the time, the architects are in charge of coordinating the efforts of various consultants.

This is how it works: the client comes with an idea and the money, the architect materialises that idea into a project and takes 10% of his money, then if the architect wants to make some more big money he selects himself all the rest teams for the specialities (civil & structural engineers, mechanical & electrical engineers, quatity surveyors, etc and even to the constructor) and charges them a commition, and the secret to make really big money comes indeed from the commitions, the key is not just to have good client contacts but also to have good contacts with all other teams involved in the project as the architect is in fact the coordinator of the project, its his name that comes on top.