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kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 10:06 AM

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_12.htm

"Ptolemy created a universe that lasted a thousand years. Copernicus created a universe that lasted four hundred years. Einstein has created a universe, and I can't tell you how long it will last." - George Bernard Shaw

"Despite all the greed, hatred and materialistic hullabaloo, many of us are feeling a need for an inner quest: What are we here for? Why so much misery and pain in life? Can we rise above this and make our lives more meaningful… can we?" -
Rakesh Maniktala

Spiritualism, Modern Science, Ancient History. These three words at one place might appear to many as highly unrelated – but they are as much related to each other as the three corners of an equilateral triangle. Without any one of the corners, the identity of the triangle itself (i.e. Humanity) would not be there.

Scientific advancement sans spirituality is like body without soul – the form of science we see today. It leads to a society with all the attributes of self-destruction: Greed, Selfishness, Intolerance and Bloated Egos. Today we have become slaves of the gadgets and scientific infrastructure we have put together for our service.

What humanity needs is a humane and progressive culture on Earth, where spiritualism and scientific development go hand in hand. A culture based on the principles of love, tolerance, brotherhood and a desire to grow, to move forward… And do we have any precedence for such a culture, such a society? That’s where ancient history comes into picture.

Human race on our planet Earth is very old, as discussed further in the "Beliefs" section. In ancient history, there have been times when our culture was highly advanced – scientifically as well as spiritually. The society was guided by highly evolved rishis (sages), master exponents of metaphysical skills who had conquered death through yoga and meditation. These sages, the great scientists, knew of environment friendly and unlimited resources of energy. People traveled to farthest stars and solar systems in sophisticated spacecraft, and by astral travelling. They had mastered anti-gravity, and had contacts with other advanced civilizations of the universe. But human culture and its development always follow a sine wave. People leave the middle path tilting more towards materialism, and knowledge decays. There were natural calamities due to toying with environment, and nuclear wars, resulting in total destruction. Radioactivity mutated human genes and so there were primitive Neanderthal men. And this has happened not once, but many a times in the past. Physical evidence for this might not be available today, but documentary information in symbolic or parable form is still available in some ancient Indian scriptures (Puranas), and in scriptures of other civilizations too.

Can We Revive Our Glorious Past?

To realize the dream of a spiritual-scientific culture on Earth, the spiritual level of the society has to go up. There must be a large number of people with high spiritual level to bring about a change at a very fast rate (referred to as a critical mass by some). This might sound difficult, but things are actually moving in a positive direction. Despite all the greed, hatred and materialistic hullabaloo, many of us are feeling a need for an inner quest: What are we here for? Why so much misery and pain in life? Can we rise above this and make our lives more meaningful… can we? This inner quest is actually helping us rise above the ordinary. And so the long queues at the doorsteps of Gurus and religious preachers.

But only the desire for an inner quest may not help much. To hasten the pace of this change, something more is required: dedicated and evolved groups of people, working specifically and steadfastly to bring about the change. And one of the paths for them is to look for scientific-spiritual advancements of the past.

To Find Scientific Advancements In Ancient History

A two pronged action plan is required for this:

One certain source of scientific knowledge is Vedas, the ancient Hindu scriptures, written in the ancient and sophisticated language of Sanskrit. Many other Sanskrit scriptures and ancient books from other parts of the world and in other languages may contain advanced scientific knowledge. Various research programs on Vedas are already in progress, here in India and abroad. Specific and coordinated research programs on such texts have to be initiated.

Scientific remains of certain ancient civilizations must still be hidden somewhere - beneath some ancient ruins, or pyramids, or in some caves/ highlands of Himalayas. Or there could be some ancient library, or manuscripts/ texts, which might have survived the ravages of Dark Age wars. These have to be traced - through dedication, meditation and intuition.
The aim of these words is to bring together all such like-minded people who resonate with these thoughts, to launch a concerted and dedicated effort in this direction (points 1 & 2 above).

The evidence for many of the ideas mentioned above might not be forthcoming, and so may appear to some of us as hypothetical, and based on wild imagination and faith. But imagination and faith are amongst the strongest forces of nature capable of doing many a miracles in life. So if we have faith in our imaginations and in our inner quests, we surely can do some miracles. Let’s come together. -- contd....

kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 10:10 AM

Contd.....

God

There is one Supreme being, called by the names of GOD, the Parmatma (the soul of universe), the Almighty Lord. God is sat (truth), chitta (intelligence) and ananda (happiness). He is absolutely holy and wise. He is omnipresent, incorporeal, unborn, immense, omniscient, omnipotent, merciful and just. He is the creator, protector and destroyer of the worlds. He is the lord of the universe.1

There are three distinct eternal identities: (1) God, (2) Souls, (3) Prakriti – the material cause of the universe. All three have the attributes of eternal existence in common. But they differ in other respects. Matter is inanimate and inert while God is all-life and all-power. The soul is limited in its intelligence and powers, while god is unlimited. The soul is confined in a body – God pervades all space. The former is finite – the latter infinite.2

The Universe

In the early part of this century, two opposing theories about the origin of the universe were postulated. (1) The Steady State theory, which says the universe is never born, never dies, and is always like what it is. (2) The Big bang theory, which says the universe began with a point of energy exploding in a "big-bang". All the matter came into being from energy continuously expanding and changing form. Ultimately the expansion will stop and it will start contracting, ending into nothingness with a "big-crunch". What is before big-bang or after big crunch, the theory doesn’t know.

In reality, both the theories are correct. The universe begins from a point with a bang and ends in a point with a crunch. This duration we call one Kalpa (cosmos) or Brahma Diwas (eternal day). It is preceded and succeeded by an equal period during which matter lies in a dormant, inert state and that is called a Brahma Ratri i.e. a divine night (for the nature that sleeps as it were). All the souls also remain in a dormant state, a sort of hibernation, during this period. The evolution of cosmos from dormant state may be called a ‘creation’ or ‘srishti’, and its involution back into inert state is called dissolution (pralaya). As days and nights succeed each other, so do cosmos and divine nights in this eternal sinusoidal cycle of evolutions and involutions 3 (Figure 1).

All matter, i.e. nature, has three basic attributes/forces – satva, rajasa and tamasa. During brahma ratri, these forces remain in a balanced state. After the big bang, the three forces get realigned to form elementary particles called Mahat or Aapah, which combine further to form other basic particles, atoms and so on. 4

Figure 1

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A – "Big Bang"

B – "Big Crunch"

A to B – One "Kalpa"

Age of the Universe

The age of each Kalpa (eternal day) is 4.32 billion years (4,320,000,000 years). According to Hindu scriptures this is further subdivided as below:

1 Kalpa = 1000 Chaturyugis
= 14 Manvantars + Buffer Periods of 6 Chaturyugis
1 Manvantar = 71 Chaturyugis
1 Chaturyugi = 4,320,000 years
Of the 14 manvantars, the universe expands for the first seven, and contracts for the next seven.

Each chaturyugi is subdivided into four Yugas:

Krit yuga = 1,728,000 years
Treta yuga = 1,296,000 years
Dwapar yuga = 864,000 years
Kali yuga = 432,000 years
At present, kaliyuga of the 28th chaturyugi of the 7th manvantar is in progress. According to this calculation, 1,972,949,100 years have elapsed since the evolution of present cosmos began, and it has 2,347,050,900 years still to go before the "big-crunch". 5

The Earth

All planets prior to their formation are part of their parent stars, like the nine planets of our solar system were part of the Sun. After parting from the Sun, it took millions of years for our Earth to cool and become solid. The Earth is hollow inside, with a tiny white-dwarf "sun" at its center. Most of the other planets in this universe are hollow inside. And most of the planets are inhabited too, because the basic purpose of planets is to support life – as that of stars is to support planets. On a planet, both the outside surface and the inside surface, or any one of them, could be suitable for life. For our Earth, both the surfaces support life – in fact, the "inside world" (referred to as Pataal Loka in Hindu scriptures) is more suitable for life as is protected from outside natural calamities. 6

Life on Earth

Presently, the twenty eighth chaturyugi of the seventh manvantar is in its last phase. The Earth was formed in the second manvantar, while the Moon was formed in the third. Continents came out of the oceans in the fourth manvantar. Vegetation was born in the fifth, animals in sixth and humans at the beginning of the current seventh. So, human life on Earth is roughly 120 million years old.7

At first the humans were born by asexual means – in fully grown-up and knowledgeable state – in the Meru Parvat region in Himalayas (Tibet). They further carried on the chain of life through sexual means.8

At the birth of every cosmos the complete knowledge of God is transmitted in wave-form and spreads out with the expanding universe. This knowledge was received by the foremost of the earliest humans – the four rishis (sages) – through meditation, and given to the humankind in the form of the four Vedas. 9

Population increased, Vedic knowledge spread, and human society flourished. Since the very beginning, humanity has taken two paths, the Devas and the Asurs, the believers in God and the worshippers of nature, the good and the evil. The society got divided along these two paths. The Deva or Aryan culture believes in scientific development supported by equal spiritual enlightenment for the ultimate betterment of humanity. On the other hand, the Asur culture believes in extreme materialism and considers the nature to be all powerful, leading to usage of science for destructive purposes.10

The fight for supremacy between the two cultures, between good and bad, follows a sinusoidal path, and so do peace and wars, and the scientific and spiritual development of humanity. Today it’s the asur culture that is on top, but the fight is still on.

Human Body: Birth to Rebirth

What we call human body actually is a combination of three bodies

The Physical body (Sthula sharira), one which we ‘see’ and ‘feel’ with our senses.
The Astral body (Sukshma sharira), our higher dimension body, and connected with our physical body by means of an infinitely extensible ‘silver cord’ at the naval.
The Cause body (Karana sharira), much subtler than the astral body, plus the wave form record of all our Karma and desires (vasana), good or bad.
This "combination" human body is the carrier, the vehicle of our "Atma", the Spirit, the actual "me". During our sleep – unconsciously, and during meditation – consciously, our astral body can leave the physical body. For astral body being at a much higher vibration level, physical things are no barrier to it. When we "die", only our physical body is destroyed. We, the "spirit" along with the astral body and cause body are born again in another physical body, as directed by our Karmic record. In between the death and rebirth, the spirit, along with the astral body goes to a particular astral plane depending on its level of evolution. There it experiences a detailed review of its latest life before being born again in another life. And this cycle of birth & death continues. The process of rebirth causes a memory loss, and we humans forget the real purpose of our lives. The aim of human life is to remember who we are, and to work towards the goal of evolution and the ultimate "moksha" (freedom from the cycle of birth and death). 11

kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 10:19 AM

Knowledge is Eternal

The knowledge of God is eternal, and is present everywhere around us in energy form. So are the past and prospective futures. These can be "tapped in" by sufficiently spiritually advanced individuals. Without the spiritual development, knowledge and science always decay.

At the end of every chaturyugi, there is always a pralaya – mass destruction in the form of natural or man-made cataclysms – in which most of the knowledge in physical form is destroyed. But humanity survives in the form of a few human beings to carry forward the human race into next chaturyugi, like "Manu" (Noah) did at the end of last chaturyugi 3,893,100 years ago. Scientific remains of ancient, advanced civilizations of present chaturyugi may still be present and could be discovered by evolved and dedicated groups of people.13

Suggested Topics for Research

Before starting any research program, following points have to be taken care of:

Identification of ancient texts/manuscripts known to contain scientific knowledge.
Programs to trace out such texts/manuscripts which are not available today.
Research programs on available texts can then be initiated. Research topics could include the following.

Anti Radioactivity: Chances of a nuclear war can never be ruled out, until of course, the earth rids itself of the piles of nuclear weapons. And in this context, research on anti-radioactive device/ radiation assumes paramount importance. Some basic leads are available – they need to be further researched and put together.
Vimanas: Research on Vedas and other texts like "Brihad Vimanashastra" for developing special airplanes and space vehicles. This will also involve research on special alloys/ materials/ fuels as described in these texts.
To realize Anti-Gravity.
The study of human Aura for research in medicine and surgery.
To find unconventional and environment friendly Energy/ electricity resources.
The study of Yajna, and how to achieve special effects, like health and medicine, reinforcement of ozone layer and removal of atmospheric pollution, through it.
Above all this, blueprint for a program to educate specially chosen children in ancient spiritual and scientific techniques should be prepared, so as to produce leaders for a new world order.

© Rakesh Maniktala
E-mail: rock@hwr.bhel.co.in
Reprinted with permission
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kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 10:21 AM

Vedic Physics

Excerpted from Vedic Physics by Raja Ram Mohan Roy.
Copyright © 1999. Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved

4. The Expanding Egg

Sanskrit is a beautiful language. Each word in Sanskrit tells its meaning itself. Each word has been thought carefully. Sanskrit is not a product of evolution from an earlier language. It has been designed to be what it is. When Vedic sages coded the knowledge of particle physics and cosmology, they were well aware of the possibility that one day the code may be lost due to the decline of their civilization. Therefore they chose the words very carefully to provide vital clues about the code. In this book we will dissect each word, go to its roots, and discover the lost Vedic science.

4.1: The Expanding Universe

The word for universe in Sanskrit is "Brahmanda", which is made by joining of words "Brahma" and "Anda". Brahma is derived from root "Briha" meaning to expand and "Anda" means egg. Thus "Brahmanda" means expanding egg. Concept of the universe as an egg is found in nearly all ancient civilizations, the source of which is obviously the Rigveda. The concept of Martanda discussed later in this chapter is related to the egg-shaped universe. The universe is described as an egg in most post-vedic scriptures.

"Apah were indeed Salila earlier. Desire arose in it. They labored. From that heat arose. From heat golden egg was born. Golden egg was swimming in that for a year." Shatapatha Brahmana 11.1.6.1

"Whole universe including moon, sun, galaxies and planets was inside the egg. Egg was surrounded by ten qualities from outside." Vayu Purana 4.72-73

"At the end of thousand years Egg was divided in two by Vayu." Vayu Purana 24.73

"From that golden egg earth and heaven were made." Manusmriti 1.13

In Matsya Purana 2.25-30 following story is told about creation. After Mahapralaya, dissolution of the universe, there was darkness everywhere. Everything was like in a state of sleep. There was nothing, either moving or unmoving. Then Svayambhu, self-being, manifested, which is the form beyond senses. He created water first and established the seed of creation into it. That seed turned into a golden egg. Then Svayambhu entered in the egg, and he is called Visnu because of entering. The concept of the universe as an egg is based on sound scientific reasoning. We will discuss the scientific basis of this shape later in this book during the discussion of Vedic cosmology.

4.2: Birth of Gods

What happened during the initial moments of creation? The Big Bang cosmology gives a very dramatic account of first few moments. The universe was extremely hot and it went through a very rapid expansion stage initially called inflation. The Vedic viewpoint differs from this view. The initial moments of creation are described in the following hymn from the Rigveda: Rigveda 10.72 Sage: Laukya Brihaspati or Brihaspati Angirasa or Dakshayani Aditi; Deity: Gods; Metre: Anustupa

1. We speak about the birth of Gods clearly. Who says the praises, will see them in later ages. 2. Brahmanaspati created these (everything in the universe) like an artisan. In the earlier age of gods manifest was born from unmanifest. 3. In the first age of gods, manifest was born from unmanifest. Then quarters of the heaven (asha) were born, after that one whose legs are extended. 4. From the one whose legs are extended, was born Bhu, and from Bhu were born quarters of the heaven (asha). From Aditi Daksha was born, and from Daksha Aditi was born. 5. Daksha, your daughter Aditi gave birth. Gracious, immortal bonded gods were born from her. 6. When gods were sitting in this Salila firmly established, from their dance penetrating dust came up. 7. When gods pervaded whole universe, then in ocean sun was brought near. 8. Those eight sons born to Aditi, with seven she went to gods, and left Martanda away. 9. With seven sons Aditi went to earlier age. For the birth and death of people, (she) accepted Martanda again.

4.3: The Dead Egg

The last two verses tell us about Martanda, and here lies the seed of a gigantic misconception that man was created in the beginning of the universe. Martanda means dead egg. Egg is the universe itself, so dead egg means a universe that had no life. The formation of the universe was not a spontaneous process. The universe had to expand in order to exist, but forces of expansion and contraction were in a delicate balance in the beginning. The universe did not keep on expanding continuously is the Vedic viewpoint. After an initial expansion, the universe started to contract. This is the meaning of Aditi going to earlier age.

The above article is excerpted from Vedic Physics by Raja Ram Mohan Roy.
Copyright © 1999. Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved

kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 10:30 AM

http://www.teslasociety.com/tesla_and_swami.htm

by Mr. Toby Grotz, President, Wireless Engineering

Swami Vivekananda, late in the year l895 wrote in a letter to an English friend, "Mr. Tesla thinks he can demonstrate mathematically that force and matter are reducible to potential energy. I am to go and see him next week to get this new mathematical demonstration. In that case the Vedantic cosmoloqy will be placed on the surest of foundations. I am working a good deal now upon the cosmology and eschatology of the Vedanta. I clearly see their perfect union with modern science, and the elucidation of the one will be followed by that of the other." (Complete Works, Vol. V, Fifth Edition, 1347, p. 77).

Here Swamiji uses the terms force and matter for the Sanskrit terms Prana and Akasha. Tesla used the Sanskrit terms and apparently understood them as energy and mass. (In Swamiji's day, as in many dictionaries published in the first half of the present century, force and energy were not alwavys clearly differentiated. Energy is a more proper translation of the Sanskrit term Prana.)

Tesla apparently failed in his effort to show the identity of mass and energy. Apparently he understood that when speed increases, mass must decrease. He seems to have thought that mass might be "converted" to energy and vice versa, rather than that they were identical in some way, as is pointed out in Einstein's equations. At any rate, Swamiji seems to have sensed where the difficulty lay in joining the maps of European science and Advaita Vedanta and set Tesla to solve the problem. It is apparently in the hope that Tesla would succeed in this that Swamiji says "In that case the Vedantic cosmology will be placed on the surest of foundations." Unfortunately Tesla failed and the solution did not come till ten years later, in a paper by Albert Einstein. But by then Swamiji was gone and the connecting of the maps was delayed.

The Influence of Vedic Philosophy on Nikola Tesla's Understanding of Free Energy

An Article by Toby Grotz

Web Publication by Mountain Man Graphics, Australia - Southern Autumn of 1997

Abstract ...

Nikola Tesla used ancient Sanskrit terminology in his descriptions of natural phenomena. As early as 1891 Tesla described the universe as a kinetic system filled with energy which could be harnessed at any location. His concepts during the following years were greatly influenced by the teachings of Swami Vivekananda. Swami Vivekananda was the first of a succession of eastern yogi's who brought Vedic philosophy and religion to the west. After meeting the Swami and after continued study of the Eastern view of the mechanisms driving the material world, Tesla began using the Sanskrit words Akasha, Prana, and the concept of a luminiferous ether to describe the source, existence and construction of matter. This paper will trace the development of Tesla's understanding of Vedic Science, his correspondence with Lord Kelvin concerning these matters, and the relation between Tesla and Walter Russell and other turn of the century scientists concerning advanced understanding of physics. Finally, after being obscured for many years, the author will give a description of what he believes is the the pre-requisite for the free energy systems envisioned by Tesla.

Tesla's Earler Description of the Physical Universe

By the year 1891, Nikola Tesla had invented many useful devices. These included a system of arc lighting (1886), the alternating current motor, power generation and transmission systems (1888), systems of electrical conversion and distribution by oscillatory discharges (1889), and a generator of high frequency currents (1890), to name a few. The most well known patent centers around an inspiration that occurred while walking with a friend in a park in Budapest, Hungry. It was while observing the sunset that Tesla had a vision of how rotating electromagnetic fields could be used in a new form of electric motor. his led to the well known system of alternating current power distribution. In 1891 however, Tesla patented what one day may become his most famous invention. It is the basis for the wireless transmission of electrical power and is know as the Tesla Coil Transformer. It was during this year that Tesla made the following comments during a speech before the American Institute of Electrical Engineers:

"Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point in the universe. This idea is not novel... We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians... Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic.? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is, for certain - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature." [1]

This description of the physical mechanisms of the universe was given before Tesla became familiar with the Vedic science of the eastern Nations of India, Tibet, and Nepal. This science was first popualized in the United States and the west during the three year visit of Swami Vivekananda.

Vedic Science and Swami Vivekananda

The Vedas are a collection of writings consisting of hymns, prayers, myths, historical accounting, dissertations on science, and the nature of reality, which date back at least 5,000 years. The nature of matter, antimatter, and the make up of atomic structure are described in the Vedas. The language of the Vedas is known as Sanskrit. The origin of Sanskrit is not fully understood. Western scholars suggest that it was brought into the Himalayas and thence south into India by the southward migrations of the Aryan culture. Paramahansa Yogananda and other historians however do not subscribe to that theory, pointing out that there is no evidence within India to substantiate such claims. [2]

There are words in Sanskrit that describe concepts totally foreign to the western mind. Single words may require a full paragraph for translation into english. Having studied Sanskrit for a brief period during the late 70's, it finally occurred to this writer that Tesla's use of Vedic terminology could provide a key to understanding his view of electromagnetism and the nature of the universe. But where did Tesla learn Vedic concepts and Sanskrit terminology? A review of the well known biographies by Cheney, Hunt and Draper, and O'Neil [3], [4], [5], reveal no mention of Tesla's knowledge of Sanskrit. O'Neal however includes the following excerpt from an unpublished article called Man's Greatest Achievement:

"There manifests itself in the fully developed being , Man, a desire mysterious, inscrutable and irresistible: to imitate nature, to create, to work himself the wonders he perceives.... Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena. The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance."

According to Leland Anderson the article was written May 13th, 1907. Anderson also suggested that it was through association with Swami Vivekananda that Tesla may have come into contact with Sanskrit terminology and that John Dobson of the San Francisco Sidewalk Astronomers Association had researched that association. [6]

Swami Vivekananda was born in Calcutta, India in 1863. He was inspired by his teacher, Ramakrishna to serve men as visible manifestations of God. In 1893 Swami Vivekananda began a tour of the west by attending the Parliament of Religions held in Chicago. During the three years that he toured the United States and Europe, Vivekananda met with many of the well known scientists of the time including Lord Kelvin and Nikola Tesla. [7] According to Swami Nikhilananda:

Nikola Tesla, the great scientist who specialized in the field of electricity, was much impressed to hear from the Swami his explanation of the Samkhya cosmogony and the theory of cycles given by the Hindus. He was particularly struck by the resemblance between the Samkhya theory of matter and energy and that of modern physics. The Swami also met in New York Sir William Thompson, afterwards Lord Kelvin, and Professor Helmholtz, two leading representatives of western science. Sarah Bernhardt, the famous French actress had an interview with the Swami and greatly admired his teachings. [8]

It was at a party given by Sarah Bernhardt that Nikola Tesla probably first met Swami Vivekananda. [9] Sarah Bernhardt was playing the part of 'Iziel' in a play of the same name. It was a French version about the life of Bhudda. The actress upon seeing Swami Vivekananda in the audience, arranged a meeting which was also attended by Nikola Tesla. In a letter to a friend, dated February 13th, 1896, Swami Vivekananda noted the following:

...Mr. Tesla was charmed to hear about the Vedantic Prana and Akasha and the Kalpas, which according to him are the only theories modern science can entertain.....Mr Tesla thinks he can demonstrate that mathematically that force and matter are reducible to potential energy. I am to go see him next week to get this mathematical demonstration. [10]

Swami Vivekananda was hopeful that Tesla would be able to show that what we call matter is simply potential energy because that would reconcile the teachings of the Vedas with modern science. The Swami realized that "In that case, the Vedantic cosmology [would] be placed on the surest of foundations". The harmony between Vedantic theories and and western science was explained by the following diagram:

BRAHMAN = THE ABSOLUTE

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MAHAT OR ISHVARA = PRIMAL CREATIVE ENERGY

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+---------+ +---------+

PRANA and AKASHA = ENERGY and MATTER

Tesla understood the Sanskrit terminology and philosophy and found that it was a good means to describe the physical mechanisms of the universe as seen through his eyes. It would behoove those who would attempt to understand the science behind the inventions of Nikola Tesla to study Sanskrit and Vedic philosophy.

Tesla apparently failed to show the identity of energy and matter. If he had, certainly Swami Vivekananda would have recorded that occasion. The mathematical proof of the principle did come until about ten years later when Albert Einstein published his paper on relativity. What had been known in the East for the last 5,000 years was then known to the West.

Brahman is defined as the one self existent impersonal spirit; the Divine Essence, from which all things emanate, by which they are sustained, and to which they return. Notice that this is very similar to the concept of the Great Spirit as understood by Native American cultures. Ishvara is the Supreme Ruler; the highest possible conception of the Absolute, which is beyond all thought. Mahat means literally the Great One, and is also interpreted as meaning universal mind or cosmic intelligence. Prana means energy (usually translated as life force) and Akasha means matter (usually translated as ether). Dobson points out that the more common translations for Akasha and Prana are not quite correct, but that Tesla did understand their true meanings.

The meeting with Swami Vivekananda greatly stimulated Nikola Tesla's interest in Eastern Science. The Swami later remarked during a lecture in India, "I myself have been told by some of the best scientific minds of the day, how wonderfully rational the conclusions of the Vedanta are. I know of one of them personally, who scarcely has time to eat his meal, or go out of his laboratory, but who would stand by the hour to attend my lectures on the Vedanta; for, as he expresses it, they are so scientific, they so exactly harmonize with the aspirations of the age and with the conclusions to which modern science is coming at the present time". [11]

saysenthil

July 9th, 2012, 12:43 PM

21- ம் நூற்றாண்டு விஞ்ஞானத்திற்க்கு நம்பிக்கையளிக்கும் தமிழ் மெய்ஞ்ஞானம்

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விஞ்ஞான நோக்கம்:

ஜெனிவா ஃப்ரான்ஸ் எல்லைப்பகுதியில் 27 கி.மீ சுற்றளவில் லார்ஜ் ஹாட்ரான் கொலைடர் என்ற துகள் முடக்கி சோதனைச்சாலை அமைந்துள்ளது. இதில் அணுவின் அடிப்படை துகள்களை (ப்ரோட்டான் => குவார்க் => க்ளுவான்) கட்டமைக்கும் “பரமாணு அதாவது கடவுள் துகள் (Higgs boson)” எது? என்ற சோதனை நடந்து வருகின்றது.

செயல்படும் முறை:

லார்ஜ் ஹாட்ரான் கொலைடரில் அணுவின் அடிப்படைத்துகளான ப்ரோட்டான்களை (நேர்மங்களை) கிட்டதட்ட ஒளியின் வேகத்தில் (வினாடிக்கு 300000கி.மீ) ஒன்றோடொன்று மோதவிட்டு, பிறகு வெளிப்படும் துகள்களில் “அணுவின் அடிப்படைத் துகள்களையே (ப்ரோட்டான் => குவார்க் => க்ளுவான்) கட்டமைக்கும் பரமாணு அதாவது கடவுள் துகள் (Higgs boson) ஏதேனும் வெளிப்படுகின்றதா என்று சோதனை செய்யப்பட்டு வருகின்றது.

மெய்ஞ்ஞான நோக்கம்:

அணுவில் அணுவினை ஆதிப் பிரானை
அணுவில் அணுவினை ஆயிரம் கூறிட்டு
அணுவில் அணுவை அணுக வல்லார்கட்கு
அணுவில் அணுவை அணுகலும் ஆமே. - திருமந்திரம்-2008

விளக்கம்:

அணுவுக்கும் அணுவான அடிப்படைத் துகள்களை (ப்ரோட்டான் => குவார்க் => க்ளுவான்) ஆயிரம் துண்டாக்கி, அதில் ஒரு துண்டுக்குள், நுண்ணியதாக உள்ள பரமாணு நெருங்க கூடியவர்களுக்கு; பரம்பொருளை அடைதலும் கைகூடும்.

மேற்கண்ட இருநிகழ்வுகளில் நோக்கமும், செய்முறையும் எந்தளவுக்கு ஒத்துபோகின்றது என்று தாங்களே நன்கு உணர்வீர். ஏனெனில் நாம் இதை தற்பொழுது “மதிப்பெண்களுக்காக” படிக்கவில்லை.

ஒர் இயற்பியல் மாணவனாக சில கேள்விகள்

(1). இத்திருமந்திரத்தையே கிரேக்கர், எகிப்தியர், ரோமாணியர் போன்றோர் எழுதியிருந்தால் தங்களின் நிலைப்பாடு என்னவாகியிருந்திருக்கும்?

(2). ஒரு தமிழர் தமிழில் எழுதிருந்தால் அதில் அறிவியல் கருத்துக்கள் இருக்காதா?

(3). ஆன்மீகத்தில் அறிவியலும், அறிவியலில் ஆன்மீக கருத்துகளும் பிரதிபளிக்கும் நிகழ்வுகள் இருந்தால் ஏற்றுக்கொள்ளக்கூடாதா?

(4). திருமூலர் இதை நிரூபித்து எழுதினாரா? என்றால் கோட்பாட்டு இயற்பியலில் (Theoretical Physics) எதையும் அவ்வளவு சீக்கிரத்தில் அதி உயர் கணினியில் (Super Computer) கூட நிருபிக்க முடியாது என்பதே உண்மை. (எ.கா) அற்புதமான இயற்பியலாளர் ஐன்ஸ்டீன் சிறப்பு சார்பியல் கொள்கை (Special Theory of Relativity), பொது சார்பியல் கொள்கைகளை (General Theory of Relativity) சோதனை செய்து கண்டுபிடிக்கவில்லை காரண காரியங்களை வைத்தே கண்டுபிடித்தார். திருமூலர் போன்ற சித்தர்கள் மிகச்சிறந்த சிந்தனையாளர்களாக மட்டுமள்ளாமல் நம்மை விட பல பல மடங்கு மூடநம்பிக்கைகளை எதிர்த்தார்கள் என்பதே உண்மை.

geico2000

July 9th, 2012, 01:21 PM

Shiva and Shakthi not only form the fountainhead of human race, but according to Yoga traditions and Shaivism, also form the fundamental of our reality/existence.

Super pooonga, I have heard/read many explanations for Shakthi/Shiva and this is the first time hearing this. Nice one.
After getting from the bed was going through your post. Oru nimisam onnum pureyala (thuka kalakam) read twice , thrice and was able to understood. Now trying to understand in a simple manner, so that I will be able to share with others. Hopefully Shiva will help.

Next oru kuliyala pottutu Kannanoda post padikanum.

chennaiyorker

July 9th, 2012, 03:10 PM

^^ Wow! Great read, though I'm still struggling to understand.

Let me try to make it more clearer...

Basically, what science today is saying is all particles were nothing (with no mass/energy) until they came across this Higgs field to form mass, and thus forming creation of the universe as we know it.

Our ancient sciences personifies these aspects for understanding. Shiva (that which is not) is actualy nothingness, but just like the particles in science which were nothing, but became something, he too became something (existence), when he married Shakthi. But Shakthi is actually the duality of Shiva, and they are one and the same. That is why in pictures you can see Shiva and Shakthi sharing the body half and half. So, in essence the existence came from the nothingness part of Shiva, when it got in touch with the everything part (Shakthi) of his.

The western science still finds it very difficult to understand the value of nothingness, whose immensity we have understood for centuries and have been worshipping for ages. Western philosophy cannot intellectually give value for nothing and modern scientists are constantly looking to find something!! One of our gifts greatest gifts to science and math is "0" (zero) nothingness. It's a perfect example of this Shiva concept. Zero is nothing but it is also something. without 0, there can't be 1 (theory of relativity here) - without nothing, there can't be something!! When 0 (nothing) combines with something - creation happens. In essence everything roots to zero (nothing). Zero, just like Shiva, exhibits properties of duality in when it comes to existence and non-duality (singularity) in when it comes to its source.

Coming to creation of the universe, the comparisons are...

Standard Model to Yogic Science: all particles are without mass (Shiva - an entity which represents nothingness) until they interact with something called the Higgs Field (Shakthi); particles were massless when they were created at the Big Bang (Rudhra thandavam), but within a trillionth of a second, the Higgs Field spread throughout the universe and gave each particle its mass(Creation).

Compare these two videos (I have shared them before and will share them agin to give perspectives):

Hear what the cosmologist says...Although the interviewer is funny, he strikes the basic point at the end!

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/415707/june-21-2012/lawrence-krauss

And now hear what a Yogi says...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk2inRRAcvA&feature=related

Hope this makes it simpler!!

The Dark Horse

July 9th, 2012, 03:56 PM

^wow

satchitananda

July 9th, 2012, 04:47 PM

For enthusiasts of ancient wisdom

Few small observations - Hindu traditions always portray Shiva or Brahman as total Completeness..(Bhoomatva) .. Interpreting it as Nothingness is 100% idea of Buddhism, one of their core differences with Hinduism - Shunyavada (Nothingness). This was refuted by multiple great vedantic acharyas from Shankara to Ramanuja.

The idea of Purusha (Consciousness) and Prakriti (Matter) , the key idea of Samkhya Darshana was refuted and shown to have lots of logical flaws even during Shankara's period.

Of the six different major schools of thought within Hinduism, they got merged into three major groupings and only Vedanta and Yoga have survived the fire of intellectual questioning. Today even Yoga is holding on to Vedanta for its independant existence.

Let me skirt getting into vedantic discussion. The core of vedantic idea emphasizes consciousness rather than matter. This is not only from the religious gurus of the yore, but also more spiritually inclined siddha purushas like vallalar or pattinathar or siddhars of TN.

Science focusses more on matter. Our eastern mystics found consciousness as the key. This fundamental difference is the reason why spirituality is an individual experience rather than a lab experiment.

The bottomline is whether one needs to understand the magnitude of universe or consciousness, it has to be done in the cave of our hearts.

The idea of interpreting western science in light of eastern wisdom is not new, many of us would have read "Tao of Physics" which was a pioneer in the 1960's-70's I guess, usually the first entry level book for folks interested in this area.

Matter is just a grosser form of consciousness - declare the eastern sages.

The knower of the field (Kshetrajna) is emphasized in an entire chapter of Bhagavad Gita.

I would highly encourage interested folks to pick up a good spiritual commentary of Bhagavad Gita, which is a treasure trove of not just science and morality, but a complete package. Folks who have read it in totality know that it is a non religious secular insight into wisdom, although the syntax and lingo is heavily sanskrit.

kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 05:01 PM

Good One Satchi.

I read Tao of Physics in 1984, I think after I finished B Tech. First it was too much for me to comprehend. I read it at least a few times during the next 4-5 years. Each time I learnt a few new things. Very nice Book for the beginners.

Reg Bhagvad Gita, many of us still consider it as religious text or Philosphical text. For beginners, the choice of commentator is very important.

During our final year, we arranged a discourse in REC (NIT) Trichy by Swami Chinmayananda. He gave a beautiful Intro to Bhagvad Gita in simple english which even a village boy could understand. We all became Fans of the Swami. The Audio Tape of his speech was bought by everybody. I misplaced it during one of those House shifting.

Swami Parthasarathy & Sunsnda Parthasarathy are too philosophical in their approach. The GenY may not like that.

Swami Sukhabodahnada of Bangalore (Manase Relax Please Fame) has a style which appeals to GenY.

kannan infratech

July 9th, 2012, 05:09 PM

A sample of Swami Chimayananda's Lecture on Bhagvad Gita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdmCdMO_XNQ

Logic of Spirituality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irQ4SG5Rw60&feature=channel&list=UL

satchitananda

July 9th, 2012, 05:27 PM

For any Bhagavad Gita commentary stick with a good spiritual commentator. It is hard to stick to the original import. My suggestions will be Swami Chinmayananda, any RK Mutt head, Swami Sivananda. Try avoiding cultish explanations or folks who promote one path over the rest (Even Gandhi, Tilak and Bharathiyar fell for this trap IMHO. But their reasoning was to awaken the lazy masses and infuse a sense of action.. so Karma Yoga was emphasized by all the three)

We as Indians have one big flaw. I think I can trace this to atleast Chankya times in history. We glorify the west so much and fall at their feet, while we ignore the greatness of our own culture. (Now it doesnt mean, fall at your own feet or live in the past).

Be it science or spirituality, it is an individual's quest to know more. It is not for everyone. You cannot democratize science or spirituality. The easier of the two IMHO is spirituality as you are using your own mind to study itself. Easier in the sense that you dont have to procure a CERN like facility. But as all of us know mind is not an easy beast to tame. (As brahma rishi vishvamitra on how many times he lost his penance powers)

In the journey of the inner world, the mind works better with more cleansing, just like a mirror reflects better with the dust covering it being removed. This is where the sages of the yore recommended the moral codes. Sometimes impelementation faltered, so a religious approach was adopted for enforcing. Unfortunately as time passed, we lost in touch with the original meaning and many such morphed into superstitious practices, which then evolved into more diabolical practices.

Even our tamil literature concurs with many sanskrit texts in emphasizing the importance of inner journey (I liked the word Suki Sivam uses, Ul muga payanam). Even Tiruvalluvar it in multiple Kurals.

One of the ills of the media frenzy world, is the emphasis on the senses. What the mind conjures by marrying the different pieces of discrete information is a product of consciousness. What we smell is so different from what we see or taste, but the final product conjured is a figment of our consciousness which is highly subjective to the mind's perception. Hence what is spicy to one ends up as tasty to others.

Thats why the external facing mind is as useless as the senses. Sages and Siddhas have always emphasized on turning this direction from external to internal. Welcome to the exciting world of what is inside each one of us.

Whether you adopt a pure abstract mystic idea like Ramana, asking Who Am I, which was also told in the past as Neti technique or take a religious view like many we know or a Karma Yogic rendition by Gandhi or a pure Jnana marga like Vivekananda, it all entwines and becomes one.

In this journey, all the work and results are done by the individual. No hearsay can help, nor does mere rambling from text books.

kongutamizhan

July 9th, 2012, 05:50 PM

As per your suggestion, I bought Chinmayananada version last month and its really a wonderful one. I tried reading some form of Gita but couldn't grasp most of things. I have 3 Gita's lying idle. But after reading "Chinmayananada" I feel good. Will share my experience with you after completing some more pages. Thanks Sachi.

Try Balagangadar Tilak's version too. Best translation from a common man perspective.

Here is the online version

http://hinduebooks.blogspot.com/2010/08/srimad-bhagavad-gita-rahasya-of-bal.html

chennaiyorker

July 9th, 2012, 05:54 PM

In this journey, all the work and results are done by the individual. No hearsay can help, nor does mere rambling from text books.

Very true Satch... what you hear/read no matter if that is the truth, it is still a story to you until you experience it. You have to turn inwards to get that experience of the ultimate! Basically, what is outside in the universe is inside you as well (you can call it matter or supreme consciousness - depending on the school of thought) A minute of nothingness during meditation will turn the world outside upside down (or outside in) to you...will really make you experience what bliss actually is! unfortunately, it is hard!!

satchitananda

July 9th, 2012, 06:04 PM

Very true Satch... what you hear/read no matter if that is the truth, it is still a story to you until you experience it. You have to turn inwards to get that experience! a minute of nothingness during meditation will turn the world outside upside down (or outside in) to you...will really make you experience what bliss actually is! unfortunately, it is hard!!

Interestingly using Nothingness as the key word. It is completeness my friend. Or perhaps you are transiting that phase where you feel it as nothingness. Ramana talks about this state a lot and advises to be careful of this state. I suppose he was alluding to a higher level beyond this nothingness you mentioned.

Very happy to note so many traverllers in this journery here.

It is definitely hard as you noted, but if we want a jewel we have to pay the price. We cannot pay what we choose and expect a jewel for return. All I can say is plod on.. All the texts I have read and all the great sages I have been privileged to contact have said, it is closer than we think.

satchitananda

July 9th, 2012, 06:27 PM

Unfortunately someone has to come with some dramatic comparison for us to even accept that our great seers had infinite wisdom.

Our past is very great, but our future is so bright that the past pales in comparison. But it all depends on what we do in the present. Its time that we all realize this in every aspect of our life.

chennaiyorker

July 9th, 2012, 11:25 PM

I thought the topic interested some people, so, some readings on Yoga/self realization...based on the school of thought which I have followed...

In the tradition of the Himalayan masters; Yoga, Vedanta, and Tantra complement one another, leading one systematically along the path to Self-realization. The aspirant clears the mind through the practice of Yoga meditation, does self-enquiry of Vedanta, and then breaks through the final barrier with Tantra, experiencing the heights of kundalini awakening.

1st Stream: Yoga

Yoga, as described by Patanjali 2000 years ago (although was practiced thousands of years before), is preparation or foundation practiceYoga deals head-on with the obstacle of the mind and how to purify that mind so that it is an aid on the inner journey. It presumes that the seeker has done the preparatory work to be able to do these practices. Yoga science rests on the twin principles of cultivating practices (Abhyasa) that bring stable tranquility and non-attachment (Vairagya). Yoga focuses on discriminating, in meditation, between consciousness (Purusha) and matter (Prakriti) at all of it's levels. In that way, one comes to know the pure consciousness in it's own being.

2nd Stream: Vedanta

Vedanta provides a contemplative means of self-enquiry and exploration. Vedanta is expressed in the Upanishads, estimated to have been written in the period from the fifth to tenth centuries BCE, although the principles had been taught orally for a very long period prior to that.

The contemplative style of Vedanta meditation suggested by the Himalayan sages is compatible with the meditation of the Yoga Sutras. The self-enquiry is coupled with the inner reflection on contemplative statements called Mahavakyas, as well as reflection on, and witnessing of the Four functions of mind and exploring the three states of waking, dreaming and deep sleep so as to experience the consciousness that permeates all of those three levels, and which is symbolized by the Om Mantra.

3rd Stream: Tantra

Tantra deals with the energy systems of our being, going directly to the heart of consciousness. It emphasizes the creative aspect of consciousness (shakti), and following that creative aspect back to it's source. Tantra considers the universe to be a manifestation of pure consciousness. Through this process of manifesting, consciousness divides itself into two parts, which, though seeming to be separate, cannot exist without one another.

Shiva remains as a static, formless quality.
Shakti is a dynamic, creative aspect.

There is one energy that keeps taking on new shapes and forms. Shakti, which is the manifesting, or feminine force that is actually one and the same with its only apparent companion Shiva, the latent, or masculine.

Each time the energy takes on a new form, we give it a new name. Shakti becomes Kundalini Shakti, or simply Kundalini. Kundalini becomes the energy of Prana, which flows in patterns or channels called Nadis, and concentrates itself by forming intersections known as Chakras. With Kundalini awakening, the primal energy of Shakti awakens in its true form.

To know, in direct experience, that unchanging truth, the one energy that is the substratum of all of the names and forms, is one of the ways of describing the universal goal of spiritual life. It is the experience of the union of Shakti (your energies) and Shiva (nothingness), creation and its ground, feminine and masculine, even though they were never actually divided in the first place.

In fact, the word Yoga means "union": 'body and mind' to begin with, to 'conscious and subconsious', and at the end 'creation and creator'!

Broadly, Yoga can be categorized into 4 types based on the experiences of life. Life can be experienced through: 1) Intellect (mind), 2) Emotions, 3) physical experiences (action), 4) Energies (life energies)

So the yoga that uses mind to take you towards the ultimate is Gnana Yoga, Bhakthi Yoga for emotions, Karma Yoga for actions, and Kriya Yoga for energies. Gnana and Bhakthi yoga will get you to the 6th chakra (ajna-third eye- the highest level of consciousness), but from there to the crown chakra (enlightenment or union with the creator), one has to leave from the life energy to the stillness with the consciousness that is attained thus far. there is no prescribed way, however Himalayan yogis have used Tantra includes (Krya and Kundalini) to awaken the energies to make that jump.

According to Kundalini, There are 7 energy level (chakras), energy levels associated with bhakthi (anahata -4th), karma (vishuddi -5th) and gnana (ajna-6th). Every being has different levels of energy at each levels - so, for some bhakthi yoga will work, for some gnana will work...hence it is an individuals own quest in his/her own way to seek it by going inwards. Once getting to the 6th level, some make the jump at the end due to their karma or with completely self learned methods (which is very Dangerous if one tries forcefully) and most need a Guru to teach ways to make that jump. This is to leave the matter (creation/life energy/atma) to the stillness (creator) in a conscious way.

On a separate note- Yoga and Buddhism are sister traditions which evolved in the same spiritual culture of ancient India. Buddhism uses many of the same terms and follow many of the same principles and practices of ancient yoga. Generally the Hindu Yoga tradition sought to absorb Buddhism into itself by reinterpreting Buddha in a Vedantic light.

sshivakumar

July 10th, 2012, 05:08 AM

From FB

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தமிழர் வரலாறு -Tamils History
கி.மு 14 பில்லியன்

பெரும் வெடியில் உலகம் தோன்றியது.

கி.மு 6 - 4 பில்லியன்

பூமியின் தோற்றம்.

கி.மு. 2.5 பில்லியன்

நிலத்தில் பாறைகள் தோன்றிய காலம். முதன் முதலில் தமிழ் நாட்டில் மனித இனம் தோன்றியது. தென் குமரிக்குத் தெற்கே இலெமூரியா கண்டத்தில் முதலில் மனித இனம் தோன்றியது.

கி.மு. 470000

இக்கால இந்தியாவின் தமிழ் நாடு, பஞ்சாப் ஆகிய இடங்களில் மனித இனம் சுற்றித் திரிந்தது.

கி.மு. 360000

முதன் முதலாக சைனாவில் யோமோ எரக்டசு நெருப்பை கட்டுக்குள் கொண்டு வந்தனர்.

கி.மு. 300000

யோமோ மனிதர்கள் ஆசியாவிலும் ஆப்பிரிக்காவிலும் சுற்றித் திரிந்தனர்.

கி.மு. 100000

நியாண்டெர்தல் மனிதன்
கிழக்கு ஆப்பிரிக்காவில் தற்கால மனிதனின் மூளை அளவு உள்ள மனிதர்கள் வாழ்ந்தனர்.

கி.மு. 75000

கடைசி பனிக்காலம.். உலக மக்கட் தொகை 1.7 மில்லியன்.

கி.மு. 50000

தமிழ்மொழியின் தோற்றம்.

கி.மு. 50000 - 35000

தமிழிலிருந்து சீன மொழிக் குடும்பம் பிரிவு.

கி.மு. 35000 - 20000

ஆஸ்திரேலிய, ஆப்பிரிக்க சிந்திய மொழிகள் தமிழிலிருந்து பிரிந்ந காலம்.

கி-மு. 20000 - 10000

ஒளியர் கிளைமொழிகள் தமிழிலிருந்து பிரிந்தகாலம் ( இந்தோ ஐரோப்பிய மொழிகள் )

கி-மு. 10527

முதல் தமிழ்ச்சங்கத்தை பாண்டிய மன்னன் காய்கினவழுதி தோற்றுவித்த காலம். 4449 புலவர்கள் கூடினர். முதுநாரை, முதுகுருகு, களரியாவிரை முதலிய நூல்கள் இயற்றப்பட்டன.

கி.மு. 10527 - 6100

பாண்டிய மன்னர்கள் காய்கினவழுதி வடிவம்பலம்ப நின்ற நெடியோன், முந்நீர்ப் விழவின் நெடியோன், நிலந்தரு திருவிற் பாண்டியன் செங்கோன், பாண்டியன் கடுங்கோன்.

கி.மு. 10000

கடைகி பனிக்காலம் முற்றுப்பெற்றது. உலக மக்சுள் தொகை 4 மில்லியன். குமரிக்கணடம் தமிழர் 100000.

கி.மு. 6087

கடல் கொந்தளிப்பில் குமரிக் கண்டம் மூழ்கியது.

கி.மு 6000 - 3000

கபாடபுரத்தைத் தலைநகரமாகக் கொண்டவன் பாண்டிய மன்னன் வெண்தேர் செழியன். இரண்டாம் தமிழ்ச்சங்கத்தை நிறுவினான். 3700 புலவர்கள் இருந்தனர். அகத்தியம், தொல்காப்பியம் முதலிய இலக்கண நூல்கள் எழுந்தன. பாண்டிய மன்னர்கள் செம்பியன் மந்தாதன், மனுச்சோழன், தூங்கெயில் எறிந்த தொடிதோட் செம்பியன் அதியஞ்சேரல், சோழன் வளிதொழிலாண்ட உரவோன், தென்பாலி நாடன் ராகன், பாண்டியன் வாரணன், ஒடக்கோன், முட்டதுத் திருமாறன் ஆண்டகாலம்.

கி.மு. 5000

உலக மக்கள் தொகை 5 மில்லியன். சிந்து சமவெளி நாகரிகம் தொடக்கம். முகஞ்சதாரோ, ஹரப்பா.

கி.மு. 4000

சிந்து சமவெளி மக்கட் தொகை 1 மில்லியன்.

கி.மு - 4000

கிருத்துவ உலக நாட்குறிப்பு ஆரம்பம். சுமேரியாவில் புதை பொருளாராய்ச்சி சிந்து சமவெளி வணிகப் பொருள் கண்டது.

கி.மு - 3200

சிந்து சமவெளியினர் 27 விண்மீன்கள் இடைத்தொடர்பு நோக்கி சூரிய, சந்திரனின் முழு மறை வடிவங்கள் நிலைபபாடு கண்டனர்.

கி.மு - 3113

அமெரிக்க- தமிழினத்தவராகிய மாயர்கள் தொடங்கிய மாயன் ஆண்டுக் கணக்கு ஆரம்பம்.

கி.மு - 3102

சிந்து சமவெளிக் தமிழர்களின் "கலியாண்டு" ஆண்டு தொடக்கம், சிந்து சமவெளியில் தமிழர்களின் நாகரிகம் தழைத் தொடங்கியது.

மண்டையோட்டு வடிவங்களின் வகைகள்

இடமிருந்து வலம்: நெடுமண்டை நீள்வட்ட வடிவம்; இரண்டு குட்டைமண்டை வடிவங்கள்- நீளுருண்டை வடிவமும் ஆப்பு வடிவமும்; நடுமண்டை ஐங்கோண வடிவம்.

கி.மு - 3100 - 3000

ஆரியர்கள் சிந்து சமவெளி வழி நுழைந்தனர். துணி நெய்தல் ஐரோப்பா சிந்து சமவெளியில் ஆரம்பித்தது. தென்னிந்தியாவில் குதிரைகள் இருந்தது. சைவ ஆகமங்கள் முதல் தமிழ்ச் சங்க காலத்தில் பொறிக்கப்பட்டன.

கி.மு - 2600

எகிப்திய பிரமிடுகள் வேலை ஆரம்பம்.

கி.மு - 2387

இரண்டாம் கடல் கொந்தளிப்பால் கபாடபுரம் அழிந்தது. ஈழம் பெருநிலப் பகுதியிலிருந்து பிரிந்தது.

கி.மு - 2000 - 1000

காந்தாரத்தில் இருந்த ஆரியர்களுடன் வடபுலத் தமிழ் மன்னர்களும் சிந்து வெளி தமிழர்களும் போர் புரிந்த காலம். கடற்பயணங்களில் புதியன கண்டுபிடித்த சேர இளவரசர்கள் ஈழத்தில் ஆண்டகாலம். கங்கைவெளி - சிபி மரபினர் ஆட்சி. சிந்து வெளி - சம்பரன் ஆட்சி.

கி.மு - 1915

திருப்பரங்குன்றத்தில் மூன்றாம் தமிழ்ச் சங்கம் நடந்தது.

கி.மு. - 1900

வேத கால முடிவு. சரசுவதி ஆறு வற்றியதினால் மக்கள் தொகை கங்கை ஆறு நோக்கி நகர்ந்தது.

கி.மு. 1500

முக்காலத்து பிராமி மொழி வழக்கத்தில் இருந்த துவாரக நகர் வெள்ளத்தில் மூழ்கியது. இரும்பின் உபயோகம். கிராம்பு சேர நாட்டிலிருத்து மத்திய கிழக்கு நாடுகளுக்கு ஏற்றுமதி செய்யப்பட்டது.

கி.மு. - 1450

உபநிசத்துக்களும் வேதங்களும் உண்டாக்கப்பட்டன.

கி.மு. - 1316

மகாபாரத கதை வசிஸ்டரால் அமைக்கப் பட்டது.

கி. மு. 1250

மோசஸ் 600,000 யூதர்களை எகிப்திலிருந்து வெளியேற்றினார்.

கி. மு . 1200

ஓமரின் இல்லயாய்டு, ஓடசி பாடல்கள் மேற்கோற்படி கிரேக்க துரோசன் சண்டை.

கி. மு. 1000

உலக மக்கள் தொகை 50 மில்லியன்.

கி. மு. 1000-600

வடக்கில் சிபி மரபினர், தெற்கில் திங்கள் மரபினர் ஆட்சி நிலவியது.

கி. மு. 950

அரசன் சாலமன் வர்த்தகக் கப்பலில் யூதர்கள் இக்காலத்து கூறப்படும் இந்தியா வருகை.

கி. மு. 950

வடமொழி முழு வளர்ச்சியடையாது பேச்சு மொழி உருவெடுத்தக் காலம்.

கி. மு. 925

யூதர்களின் அரசன் தாவிது இப்போதைய இசுரேல், லெபனானை பேரரசாகக் கொண்டிருந்தான்.

கி. மு. 900

இப்போதைய இந்தியாவில் இரும்பின் உபயோகம்.

கி. மு. 850பின்

இபபோதைய இந்தியாவின் பொதுவான மொழி தமிழ், வடமொழி, (வடதமிழ், தென்தமிழ்) என மொழிகள் உருவாயின. வடபுலத்தில் பிராமி எனவும் தென்புலத்தில் தமிழி எனவும் பெயர்பெற்றன. பிராமிக்கும், தமிழுக்கும் எழுத்திலக்கண ஒற்றுமை உண்டு. வடமொழி பாகதமாகவும், தென்மொழி தமிழாகவும் பெயற்பெற்றன. (சமசுகிருதம் வடமொழி அல்ல. காரணம் அது போதுமான வளர்ச்சி அடைந்திருக்கவில்லை.) தொல்காப்பியம்- பிராகிருதப் பிரகாசா இலக்கண நூற்கள் எழுதப்பட்டன, கடைச் சங்க காலத்தில் நற்றினை, குறுந்தொகை, அகநானூறு, புறநானூறு, கலித்தொகை, பதிற்றுப்பத்து, பரிபாடல், பத்துபாட்டு, எட்டுத்தொகை, பதினெண்கீழ்க்கணக்கு நூல்கள், திருமுருகாற்றுப்படை, சிறுபாணாற்றுப்படை, பெரும்பாணாற்றுப்படை, பொருநராற்றுப்படை, கூத்தராற்றுப்படை, மருதக்காஞ்சி, முல்லைப்பட்டு, குறிஞ்சிப்பாட்டு, பட்டினப்பாலை, நெடுநல்வாடை, முதலிய நூல்கள் தோன்றின. திருக்குறள் தலையாய நூல், பின்னர் சங்க கால முடிவுக்குப் பின் சிலப்பதிகாரம், மணிமேகலை, சீவகசிந்தாமணி, வளையாபதி, குண்டலகேசி முதலிய ஐம்பெரும்காப்பியங்களும், முதுமொழிக்காஞ்சி, களவழி நாற்பது, கார்நாற்பது, நாலடியார் திரிகடுகம், நான்மணிக்கடிகை, சிறுபஞ்ச மூலம், ஏலாதி, ஆசாரக்கோவை, பழமொழி நானூறு, இன்னா நாற்பது, இனியவை நாற்பது, முத்தொள்ளாயிரம் முதலிய நூல்களும் தோன்றின.

கி. மு. 776

கிரேக்கத்தில் (கிரிஸ்) முதல் ஒலிம்பிக் விளையாட்டுப் போட்டி.

குழந்தைகள் குகையில் கண்டு எடுக்கப்பட்ட மண்டையோடு. மென்டோனா, இத்தாலி. பித்திக்காந்திரோப் பஸ் 1 யின் மண்டையோடு. (தூபுவா 1891ல் கண்டு எடுத்தது) சீனாந்திரோப்பஸின் மண்டையோடு (மீட்டமைப்பு: கெராஸிமவ்)

கி. மு. 750

பிராகிருத மொழி மக்கள் மொழியாக ஆரம்பித்தது.

கி. மு. 700

சொரோஸ்டிரேணியிசம் பெர்சியாவில் சொரோஸ்டரால் துவக்கப்பட்டது, இவருடைய மதப்புத்தகம் செண்டு அவெசுடா.

கி. மு. 623- 543

கெளதம புத்தர் காலம், தற்போதைய உத்திரப்பிரதேசத்தில் பிறந்தார்.

கி. மு. 600

லாவோ - துசு காலம். துவோசிசம் சைனாவில் புழக்கம், எளிமை, தன்னலமின்மை சீனர்கள் வாழ்வானது.

கி. மு. 600

கோதடிபுத்தர் அறிந்த மொழிகளில் தமிழும் ஒன்று, கி.மு. நான்கு, ஐந்து, ஆறாம், நூற்றாண்டுகளில் குறிப்பிடத்தக்க மன்னர்கள் இளைஞன் கரிகாற்சோழன், பெருஞ்சோற்று உதயஞ்சேரலாதன். பழந்தமிழ் இசைக்கருவிகள் வடநாடு முழுவதும் வழக்கில் இருந்தன. (தோற்கருவிகள்) தமிழிலக்கணத்தைப் பின்பற்றி சமஸ்கிருதத்திலும் எழுத முயற்சி மேற்கொள்ளபட்டது. புணர்ச்சி இலக்கணம் சமஸ்கிருதத்தில் திணிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

கி. மு. 599 - 527

மகாவீரர் காலம். ஜெயின மதம் தோற்றம் உயிர்த்துண்பம் தவிர்த்தல் இவரின் பெருங்கருத்து.

கி. மு. 560

பித்தகோரசு கிரேகத்தில் (கீரிஸ்) கணிதம், இசைக் கற்றுக் கொடுத்தக் காலம். மரக்கறி உண்ணல், யோகாசனம், ஓவியம் தமிழ் நாட்டில் கற்பிக்கப்பட்டன.

கி. மு. 551-478

கன்பூசியஸ் காலம். சீனர்களின் கல்விக்கு அடிப்படையே இவருடைய சமுதாய கல்வி, மக்களின் வாழ்முறை, மதம் யாவும்.

கி. மு. 500

கரிகாற் சோழன் காலம். உலக மக்கள் தொகை 100 மில்லியன். இப்போதைய இந்திய மக்கள் தொகை 25 மில்லியன்.

கி. மு. 478

இளவரசன் விசயா 700 துணையாளர்களுடன் இலங்கையில் சிங்கள அரசு ஏற்படுத்தல்.

கி. மு. 450

ஏதேன்சில் சாக்கரடீஸ் புகழோடு இருந்த காலம்.

கி. மு. 428 - 348

சாக்கரடீஸ் மாணவர் புளுட்டோவின் காலம்.

கி. மு. 400

கிரேக்கத்தில் மருத்துவமேதை இப்போகிரட்டீசின் காலம். பனினி வடமொழி இலக்கணம் அமைத்தார்.

கி. மு. 350 - 328

உதயஞ் சேரலாதன் காலம் (செங்குட்டுவன் நெடுஞ்சேரலாதன்)

கி. மு. 328 - 270

மகன் இமயவரம்பன் - நெடுஞ்சேரலாதன் ( ஆரியரை வென்றவன் - கிரேக்க யவனரை அடக்கியவன்)

கி. மு. 326

அலெக்சாண்டர் சிந்துப் பிரதேசத்தின் மீது படையெடுப்பு. வெற்றி அமையவில்லை.

கி. மு. 305

சந்திரகுப்த மெளரியரின் அட்சிக்காலம். கிரேக்க பேரரசு அமைத்த செலுக்கசை தோற்க்கடித்தவர்.

கி. மு. 302

சந்திரகுப்தரின் அமைச்சர் கெளடில்யர் அர்த்தசாத்திரம் எழுதல்.

கி. மு. 300

சீனர்கள் வார்த்த இரும்பு கண்டுபிடித்தல்.

கி. மு. 300

கல்வெட்டுகளில் சோழ, பான்டிய, சத்தியபுத்திர, சேர அரசுகள் இருந்தன. கி.மு. இரண்டாம் நூற்றாண்டு வரை தமிழ், பிராகிருதம் இரண்டும் எழுத்து மொழியாகவும் பேச்சு மொழியாகவும் விளங்கின. பிராகிருதம் - மக்களின் மொழி. நாணயங்களின் ஒரு பக்கம் தமிழ், மறுபக்கம் பிராகிருதம் என அமைந்திருந்தன.

கி.மு. 273-232

மெளரிய பேரரசர் அசோகர் காலம். தமிழ்நாடு தவிர மற்றவை இவர் வசம் இருந்தது. கலிங்க போர் இவரை புத்த மதத்திற்கு மாற வைத்தது. இவரது அசோக சக்கரம் இன்று இந்தியக் கொடியில் உள்ளது.

கி.மு. 270-245

சேரன் பல்யானை செல்கெழு குட்டுவன், சோழன் பெரும்பூண் சென்னி, பாண்டியன் ஒல்லையூர் பூதப் பாண்டியன், ஆகியோரின் காலம்.

கி.மு. 251

புத்த மதம் பரப்ப அசோகர் தன் மகனை இலங்கைக்கு அனுப்பினார்

கி.மு. 245-220

சேரன் களங்காய்க்கண்ணி நார்முடிச்சேரல் காலம்.

கி.மு. 221

புகழ் வாய்ந்த சைனாவில் 2600 கல் நீளமுள்ள பெரும் சுவர் கட்டப்பட்டது.

கி.மு. 220 - 200

கரிகாற்சோழனுக்கும் பெருஞ் சேரலாதனுக்கும் போர்.

கி.மு. 220-180

குடக்கோ நெடுஞ்சேரலாதன் ஆட்சி. உறையூர்ச் சோழன் தித்தன், ஆட்டணத்தி, ஆதிமந்தி, ஆகியோர் வாழ்ந்த காலம்.

கி.மு. 200

முனிவர் திருமூலர் காலம். 3047 சைவ ஆகமங்களின் தொகுப்பான திருமந்திரம் எழுதினார்.

கி.மு. 200

தமிழ்நாட்டில் பதஞ்சலி முனிவர் யோக சூத்திரங்கள் எழுதினார். 18 சித்தர்களில் ஒருவரான போகர் முனிவர் பழனி முருகன் கோவிலை ஏற்படுத்தினார்.

கி.மு. 125-87

ஆடு கோட்பாட்டுச் சேரலாதன் காலம்.

கி.மு. 87-62

செல்வக் கடுங்கோ வாழியாதன் ஆட்சி. பாரி, ஒரி, காரி, கிள்ளி, நள்ளி முதலிய குறுநில மன்னர்கள் ஆட்சி

கி.மு. 62-42

யானைக்கட்சேய் மாந்தரஞ்சேரல் இரும்பொறை ஆட்சி, சேரமான் மாரி வெண்கோ தொண்டியில் ஆட்சி. இக்காலத்தில் வாழ்ந்தவர்களில் குறிப்பிடத்தக்கவர்கள் தலையாலங்கானத்துச் செருவென்ற நெடுஞ்செழியன், மாங்குடி மருதனார் கல்லாடனார்.(கல்லாடம்)

கி.மு. 42-25

பெருஞ்சேரலிரும்பொறை ஆட்சி, சேரமான் மாரிவென்கோ இராசசூயம் வேட்ட பெருநற்கிள்ளி, கானபெரெயில் கடந்த உக்கிரப்பெருவழுதி ஒற்றுமையாய் இருந்தார்கள். இவர்களை இன்றே போல்கநும்புணர்ச்சி என அவ்வை பாராட்டினார், மோசிக்கீரனார், பொன்முடியார் கொண்கானங்கிழான் நன்னன், கரும்பனூர்கிழன், நாஞ்சில் வள்ளுவன் குறிப்பிடத்தக்கவர்கள்.

கி.மு. 31

உலகப் பொது மறையாம் தமிழனின் நன்கொடையாம் திருக்குறளைத் தந்த திருவள்ளுவர் பிறந்த ஆண்டு.

கி.மு. 25-9

இளஞ்சேரல் இரும்பொறை ஆட்சி. பாண்டியன் பழையன் மாறன். கோப்பெருஞ்சோழன், பிசிராந்தையார், பொத்தியார், புல்வற்றூர் ஏயிற்றியனார் ஆகியோரின் காலம்.

கி.மு. 9-1

கருவூர் ஏறிய ஒள்வாட் கோப்பெருஞ்சேரல் இரும்பொறை, பாண்டியன் கீரன் சாத்தன் வாழ்ந்த காலம்

kannan infratech

July 11th, 2012, 04:45 PM

I am a great admirer of this lady who has multi faceted talents.

Thanks to N.Kumar, who introduced her writings to me.

About her
http://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834

Those who are interested may please read more in her blogs.

Non Random Thoughts

Well Researched Articles are here

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=47

Thamizhan Dravidana ?

http://thamizhan-thiravidana.blogspot.in/

General Blogs on Miscellaneous topics:

http://jayasreesaranathan.wordpress.com/

The Websites recommended by her:

http://tamilartsacademy.com/home.asp

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/index.htm

http://www.vedicastronomy.net/

http://www.indicstudies.us/

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/

http://www.cs.okstate.edu/~subhashk/

http://www.celextel.org/

http://ramasetu.blogspot.in/

kannan infratech

July 11th, 2012, 04:55 PM

@ Jayasree Saranathan:

She has written 47 chapters in the Serial Article called Kumari Kandam.

Those who can read Tamil may read them at your leisure. English Version not yet written.

Please refer the right hand side hyperlinks which are numbered from 47 to 1.

http://thamizhan-thiravidana.blogspot.in/2011/03/41.html

Nokkam - Why I decided to write on this topic ?

http://thamizhan-thiravidana.blogspot.in/2010/11/blog-post.html

satchitananda

July 11th, 2012, 05:19 PM

Most sincere thanks. I browsed her blog. Very informative. I must definitely go back to it now. TFS. Also N.Kumar. (Miss your history posts.. )

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 02:54 PM

Guys,

I feel that many good posts on this topic which we post in TNAA / Chai Bar get lost in the clutter. Many TN Forumers do not visit Chai Bar threads at all.

Some of us may not believe the very high degree of wisdom which Indians possessed and so may not be interested also.

But I want these to be recorded for posterity so that when someone in future is able to understand, decipher & recreate the same level of Learning & execution for the betterment of the society.

We may not be able to prove / disprove all or anything with our limited knowledge basis. As we believe all of what Newtons, Einsteins told, we may also believe what our ancestors told.

I am being sucked in to this subject more and more as I am aging - initially it was more of a scientific curiosity, then a nebulous understanding that something very big is just beneath the surface about to be explored.

I am amazed by the intelligence level of the present day youth and if all the knowledge is concentrated on unearthing these secrets of our ancient wisdom, then the results will be too helpful to the society.

I will post the references which I have read / posted earlier and will keep on my search for more info.

I also want you Guys to contribute by way of posts, arguments, counter arguments so that all of us gain more knowledge in the end.

Thanks

Note :

I have shifted the above posts from other threads to this thread but since they are pre dated, they appear first. :lol:

thillai_selvan

July 25th, 2012, 03:18 PM

^^ Sudden ah intha thread a pathathum shock ayiten sir... Ena kodumai namakku theriyama ithana post enga irunthu vanthuchu nu i confused :lol:

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 03:22 PM

^^^^

Conpuson a clear pannaradhu dhan WISDOM. :)

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 03:28 PM

I came across the interesting fact when I visited Kadhirkamam.

Mt Kailash & Kadhirkamam fall on the Susumna Nadi of the Earth. Both at 81 Degrees.
In Lay man's terms, the backbone of the earth is the Axis connecting Mt Kailash & Kadhirkamam to Mount Meru. ( in Kumari Kandam - may be in Present Day Africa).

Please read on....

http://kataragama.org/research/kailasa.htm

The NASA secret study on Star Gates lists Mt Kailash, Kadhirkamam and Mount Meru as Star Gates..
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42starg...ount_Meru.html

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 03:32 PM

You may also follow this thread. in Chai Bar.

Spirituality - Talks/Ideas/Discourses/Excerpts

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1425570

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:15 PM

Spacecrafts / Aircrafts - Vimanams -

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Vimanas.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:17 PM

Cosmology

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Cosmology.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:18 PM

Advanced Concepts

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Advanced_Concepts.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:21 PM

Wars in Ancient India :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/War_in_Ancient_India.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:22 PM

Sanskrit - Modern & Well Evolved Language :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Sanskrit.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Yantras : Machines / Systems

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Yantras.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:25 PM

Yoga - Harmony of Body, Soul & the Nature :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Yoga_and_Hindu_Philosophy.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:31 PM

Sea Faring :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Seafaring_in_Ancient_India.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:35 PM

Education :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Education_in_Ancient_India.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:36 PM

Music :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Music.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:37 PM

Culture :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Culture1.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Culture2.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:38 PM

Arts :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Art.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Medical Sciences :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Culture1.htm#Beginning of Indian Scientific Thought

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:41 PM

Scientific Thoughts :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Culture1.htm#Beginning of Indian Scientific Thought

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:45 PM

Concept of Time
Physics
Mathematics
Grammar
Science
Education
Chemistry and metallurgy
Shipbuilding and Navigation
Commerce
Wealth

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Culture1.htm#Beginning of Indian Scientific Thought

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:50 PM

Nature Worship :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Nature_Worship.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:51 PM

Scriptures :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hindu_Scriptures.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:52 PM

Symbolism :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Symbolism_in_Hinduism.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:54 PM

India & Egypt :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/India_and_Egypt.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM

India & China :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/India_and_China.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM

India & South East Asia : Swarna Bhoomi :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Suvarnabhumi.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Ethereal_Prambanan.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Ethereal_Prambanan2.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Ethereal_Prambanan3.htm

Angkor Wat :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Sacred_Angkor.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Sacred_Angkor2.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Sacred_Angkor3.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Sacred_Angkor4.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:01 PM

India & Pacific :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Pacific.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:01 PM

India & Greece :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/India_and_Greece.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:05 PM

European & Islamic imperialism - Effect on India :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/European_Imperialism.htm

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Islamic_Onslaught.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Women in Hinduism :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Women_in_Hinduism.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:09 PM

Indologists who were Historians or Distorians :

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/FirstIndologists.htm

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:31 PM

http://www.iish.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=71:a-brief-introduction-to-technological-brilliance-of-ancient-india&catid=37:heritage-india-news&Itemid=56

Indian Institute of Scientific Heritage (IISH) was established on the Sravana Pournami day in August 1999 and registered as a charitable trust (328/99/iv)during the last quarter of 1999. Then onwards IISH has been undertaking the mission of learning and teaching the ultra ancient heritage of Bharath(India) using ultra modern scientific and technological tools.

The ultimate aim of this mission is to make every Indian proud of his heritage.

Our aim is to inform the world about the glorious scientific, rational and logical heritage of India and also inform the world to practice and adopt these message in their life to lead a happy life in the 21st century. IISH is undertaking this mission of taking the message to 100 million people before the 31st December 2010. Hundreds and thousands of mission oriented workers are taking part in this patriotic mission of spreading the message of our motherland. We learn and teach the past glory, present achievements and future aims of Indian in each and every field, taking the inspiration for the past glory of this nation.We inform the world that this heritage of India is the property of Hindus, Muslims and Christians of India and also belongs to all beloved children of this motherland. Thus IISH spreads the scientific, technological, spiritual, sociological, anthropological, managemental messages to the world, in such a way that these messages can be adopted for the modern world.

Learning and teaching the scientific, technological and cultural heritage of Indiawith a scientific, rational and logical , patriotic and nationalistic vision.

Publishing documents like books, audiocassettes, films, CDs, VCDS, DVDs, brochures, pamphlets, periodicals, etc for learning and teaching the heritage.

Conducting international/ national/ regional/ local seminars, study classes, academic level competitions, exhibitions, camps, study tours, etc., for fulfilling the missions of the Institute.

Giving a clear understanding of the superstitions through scientific analyses and taking the mission of eradicating the superstition from the minds of uneducated and educated people.

Giving the substantiated scientific proof on the merits of the Indian acharas (customs) and rituals through the medical research reports including psychological- sociological- anthropological- physiological and spiritual understanding .

Imparting a clear understanding on the duracharas/ anaacharas (superstitions) from the scientific acharas and explaining the merits of sadacharas and demerits of duracharas.

Bringing out the contents, facts, truths and the merits of knowing the Indian literature and giving a correct picture on the literature heritage of our nation.

Undertaking as much service oriented work like serving the poor, old aged, sick, blind, and so on through sevanam samarpanam projects. Building curriculum oriented syllabus adoptaptable for all schools world over .

We would also like to Inform the world that everything was NOT present in ancient India, but MANY things connected with science, technology, integrated life management, psychological knowledge and so on existed in ancient India. Almost all these scientific information also withstood the test of time and still survive in the practical and theoretical life/area of Indians and those who are adopting the Indian way of life.

Technological Brilliance of Ancient India :

http://rajeev.posterous.com/a-brief-introduction-to-technological-brillia

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:34 PM

Downloads :

http://iishdownloads.info/

kannan infratech

July 25th, 2012, 05:36 PM

Dr Roddam Narasimha, Director of the National Institute of Advanced Studies, is an aerospace scientist who was educated at Bangalore and at the California Institute of Technology. He was on the faculty of the Indian Institute of Science in various capacities until 1999, and was Director of the National Aerospace Laboratories from 1984 to 1993. Professor Narasimha’s scientific research has been chiefly concerned with fluid dynamics, but he also has a strong interest in the history of science. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of London and a Foreign Associate of the U.S. National Academies of Sciences and of Engineering.

Math, Science, and Technology in India: From the Ancient to the Recent

http://asiasociety.org/countries/traditions/math-science-and-technology-india-ancient-recent

kannan infratech

July 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM

The Maritime Activities of the Ancient Tamils

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20757

kannan infratech

July 26th, 2012, 05:38 PM

Science, Medicine, Technology in Ancient India

http://www.crystalinks.com/indiascience.html

kannan infratech

July 26th, 2012, 06:40 PM

Though I do not subscribe to all concepts given in this theory, it is another POV.

Tholkkapiar - Thamilarin Uyirin Parinama Valarchi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJXwsN4odPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5XlPyOtups&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDJ8v01ThqE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNgMqN8XB28&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9W0NEd3ypI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb39zuykL8o&feature=related

kannan infratech

July 26th, 2012, 07:09 PM

Atomic Warfare in the Mahabharata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK5qG6bKLCM&feature=related

P.s : Please read the comments below the video. Very interesting.

kannan infratech

July 26th, 2012, 07:15 PM

kannan infratech

July 27th, 2012, 04:20 PM

Ancient India's Engineering skills (BBC Documentary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqIfmvdK5u4&feature=related

kannan infratech

August 3rd, 2012, 03:13 PM

Looks like I cant enter it either! I'm a hindu alright, but not orthodox!! my own religion telling me to keep out....this is why religion(s) makes me laugh :lol:

BTW, who is an "orthodox" Hindu? :?

Orthodox in this context means " Believer & who has dressed Properly "

Though the word selection may be wrong, the spirit can be understood.

Some of my guests from abroad visited my native place and I took them to the Andal temple. I had explained to them that they might not be allowed beyond the Dwajasthambam (Kodi Maram).

One of the female guests was in her shorts (due to oppressive heat) and she was not allowed into the entrance. The man in charge explained her beautifully why they could not allow her.

She accepted the explanation and came next day in Salwar Khameez and came up to Kodi maram. They were fascinated by the statues in Veli Praharam (Corridor).

Even many Hindus who do not believe in God enter temples and make a ruckus or eve teasing inside.

But that does not mean that the law is wrong.

It is up to each individual faith / agama shastra following sect.

I am put off by the arrogance of the Pandas in Puri Jagannath temple but I just love the temple. Why blame the religion for the mistakes of some followers ?

kannan infratech

August 3rd, 2012, 03:25 PM

Another real example.

One of my cousins (who was schooled in convent) was so upset that she can not enter the temple during her periods. She was arguing with scientific facts that it is a natural phenomena and why religious issue is attached to it.

One uncle of mine who was a scientist with Shriram Inst of Indl Research Delhi explained it.

He took her nearer to the Thulasi plant in my grandma's place. Within a few mins, the plant leaves lost their freshness and became somewhat dry. Drooping too.

Then he explained that Women who are working in paint shops in car factories in USA & Europe (Then no robots) are not allowed to work inside a Paint Shop during periods since the gas emanated from the women's bodies spoil the painting quality.

This may probably explains why our ancestors insisted that the women during periods should keep themselves away from normal duties. It is better for their health & hygiene too. (But this was crudely twisted in some families and they were kept in dungeon rooms)

kannan infratech

August 3rd, 2012, 03:51 PM

Murlee

I fear that my detailed explanation may look preachy. This applies to all religions and I explain for Hindism as I understand it better.

Advaitham says Man & God are one. Visihtadvaitham says that They are different but can become one (Moksha). Dwaitham says both are different and can never become one but Man can attain Ananda (Moksha) stage by thinking about God.

All these 3 concepts are accepted in Hinduism. Does it not look weird ?

Not all people are equal in intellect & understanding. Each one can follow the path which is easier for him but all can attain Moksha at the end.

Why we have temples

when all men have God inside themselves ?
when we have pooja room at home / temples in our streets.

Why we need schools

when we can study by ourselves / through internet ?
when we can employ personal tutors at home ?

Why they have specific infrastructure in temples - Deities, incense, karpooram, oil lamps, flowers, bells, statues / paintings, religious discourses, rituals like viboothi, Kumkumam, holy water, Thulasi Leaves etc

Why many temples were built on top of hills or deep inside jungles ?

Each has a purpose which you may understand if you study them deeply.

But understanding them is not so easy for everybody as we have to come out of our set beliefs that we have accumulated over the years.

Once we go through the Ups & Downs of Life, we will be able to understand them better.

My Advice to you - Keep your Eyes, Ears & MIND open.

satchitananda

August 3rd, 2012, 05:52 PM

Back from a brief hiatus..

Kannan.. nice posting on different views of hinduism.. the challenge is 99.99999% just read or follow or just opinionate.. The real core of hinduism / sanatana dharma is experience.. experience that conforms to to others similar experiences and that resonates with Srutis (Vedas). That is why SAT (Truth) is spoken many times in our texts.. Truth is Existence.. (not our bodily one)

Even Ramana when he attained realization without much literary exposure at age 19 or so, he took time to go over great works like Tripura Rahasya to validate his experience..The primary reason being at this rarified level, its easy to get lost.. Hence, a good Guru and Srutis are exalted.

Most of the folks either argue from view point of their opinions or their bookish exposure. There are numerous instances in Upanishads where such a bookish experiences has been shown as inadequate. (Will save the stories for some other time)

This is the logical flaw when so called (pseudo)secularists enter the fray of spirituality or religion. How can religious practice be secular in the sense ? One must definitely be humane.. thats the least expected.

Somebody already pointed why other religions let folks do certain things.. it is again what such groups want. Even after attending their religious event/place like someone claimed to have done, you are still a HEATHEN if you dont follow them.. On the other hand, we have no such compulsion for you to follow or not follow.. as your karma (actions) will determine your results.. Since many follow their own version of hinduism, based on their comfort level, talking philosophy of Sankara or Madhva ends up mere bookish debate on borrowed, misinterpreted experiences.

Its a wrong argument to say that other religions do somethings and we dont. On the same token, will these folks next ask, why cant i enter the sanctum santorum.. as I can touch some object in some other religion ??

If someone is not interested in that particular religion or its practice, why should they even interfere in what goes there, after all we established its not a picnic spot. Some temples may have degraded itself as tourist locations having lost its primary focus. Thats not the issue here.

There are some nude beaches, if all the visitors are only interested in watching the beauties and not being nude, do you think they will get ejected.. chances are high.. this is even at a simple social site. One is expected to follow certain etiquette while being in certain location.

There is a growing band of critics... earlier they were only with bookish knowledge.. nowadays it is more fashionable to be a critic, without even picking the sacred texts..

focus must be on inner experience and finding inner bliss..

kannan infratech

August 3rd, 2012, 06:23 PM

oh is it... I too thought not permitting women in periods to a temple is stupidity and asked my wife not to follow such things. Melmaruvathur temple allows women during those days.

There are certain Amman temples in Kerala & North East where the deities themselves are supposed to be under periods.

They allow special poojas by women during their periods. (to mitigate sufferings from Gyno problems)

These temples are designed in such a way so that these gases will not affect others or rather the Dosha in their bodies can be cured there only during the periods.

satchitananda

August 3rd, 2012, 07:38 PM

My comments were not aimed at individuals acting to hijack the religion, be it not allowing non believers inside or following some customs.

There are two levels of responses.. Even sankara had to resort to this kind of response..When we talk of at cosmic level or at day today level.. In science parlance, we are still governed by newtonian physics for our daily activities, mostly, but quantum laws are so different.

At normal level, where a person is genuinely interested in learning our culture or religion or our ancient wisdom, there must be no barriers, be it their race or culture or skin tone or any other difference.. no caste no creed... Their real quest alone matters..

But increasing numbers of folks either want a touristic curiosity or with a bad intention of undermining the existing traditions, want to participate. They need not be even folks from other religion, they can be even our own pseudo secular folks who only want to create a cheap two min fame for themselves by asking questions.. They wont even be ready to listen to receive the answers.. They do not have any inner quest.. My response is aimed at the latter.

Since there is no way to discern who is in which category, I guess the margin of error is on safeguarding traditions. In our culture, we remove shoes, be it home or temple, but there is no such practice in Abrahamic tradition now.. But if one skims the bible, when moses approaches the burning bush, he is advised by GOD to remove his shoes as it is holy territory. Over time, some practices get lost.

Today science says, since we leave shoes outside, the indoor radon contamination is lesser than in cultures where it is not practiced. Now suddenly the pseudo secular hindu feels, good we got some practices, we must eliminate the ones we dont understand.. Thats the catch.. Where is the effort to learn.

There are somethings easier to maintain as emotional rituals than mere knowledge. Thats why in this yuga, Bhakti is said to be better than even Jnana. As emotional creatures, the message goes deeper.

While we debate whether non believers should enter or not, what I am not clear is WHY they want to enter. Pitchai mentioned, some muslim friends want to worship an idol. Is it not fundamentally against their own religion.. Then why they still want to do it.. Dont tell prasadam... What is the real motive.

We as current society are failing in few aspects - a) we are losing touch with our own inner selves.. b) we do not do due diligence in learning our own great past ..The true spirit to learn and serve is at the heart of sanatan dharma..

So my response in conclusion, at the highest level of truth, there is no distinction, but at practical level, to ensure continuity for future, we must have meaningful insight into our traditions, follow it. Hinduism was never extremist in ideology, so we are not talking of Crusade or Jihad.

Just because we do not understand some traditions, it doesnt lose its significance. Case in point, in many places, many of these crazy religious nuts, have learnt yoga and renamed it as Christian Yoga.. arguing it as it is not patented.. Do you get the drift, they lost the entire meaning, hijacking it.. and we as usual ape the westerners with our mouth agape.

Tomorrow, some brilliant self styled guy will come and tell you must not pronounce vedas like this, but I have a new style.. should we follow.. The real heart of hinduism is under attack with this pseudo culture.. why i keep repeating pseudo is, the subscribers themselves do not follow it fully.

satchitananda

August 3rd, 2012, 09:46 PM

@Kris

We are all indoctrinated right from childhood that west is the way to go and whatever we have is primitive. Take Yoga for example, If it is in school, it is called non-secular, religious etc, but PT is isshtyle.. We always have fancied the western way, because we, as a nation, are totally sold out that whatever is indigenious is primitive.

If Christian schools enforce Bible or their practices, our guys will say, we are learning the best culture. If you ask them to recite one sloka of Gita or ask the kids to close the eyes for 2 mins meditation, then we are forcing our culture on those who dont want. If Urdu and Arabic influences in Muslim school are not liked, the same pseudo secular guy will say, who asked you to join such a school.. But the same pseudos wont say that if our traditions are imparted, they will say we must be secular.. isnt hinduism talking of different schools of even atheism.. (The guy will disappear if you ask him to talk on the same topic)

We need to restore pride in our vedic past. Again some folks will come and argue about the -ve shades like varna and caste. I believe with my limited insight, it must be in 16-17th century onwards, when the Caste based ill effects must have taken deeper roots. If the ills existed since harappan times, then we may not have been as advanced in the past as we know. The ills in the societal structure would have toppled the progress.

I truly believe we as a culture are under massive attack, mostly from behind.. and beneath. We have junkies who introduce concepts like Thiruvalluvar was even a christian.. purusha suktam was inspired by christian ideology kind of junk. Many of us many not be aware, but such inserts are deliberately being placed to distort our pride.

Now that they introduced such horrible distortions, we end up fighting if Thiruvalluvar was not christian, he must atleast be Jain... without even using our common sense to trace dozens of kurals with 100% hindu ideology.

I am not for blindly following traditions and rituals. But at the same token, I am also against blindly brushing them aside as nonsense. We have so many things to take pride in. This pride is not the ego based one, I am talking. The one which will make us feel that I must protect this treasure kinda pride.

India and its culture will live only as long as this vedic past is treasured. Only till we believe in individual effort. Those are the two things these forces are aiming at, to kill our connection to our past, kinda to shame us and to sell the idea that purushartha (self exertion) is not needed, and a blanket idea of someone else has already done it for you kinda deal.

We must go back to our ideals of Purushartha(Self exertion towards idealistic goals) with a non attachment action. We need more wisdom from the past great seers to guide us into the future.

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 10:45 AM

Ok...here is the "other side". We are a hindu majority country, even though we have people from other religions as well in substantial numbers. ..........................................................

PS: Full disclosure - I have not read any sacred texts, because I don't care what they say. What I know is, some powerful forward castes have used those sacred texts and have sold a skewed version of them and promoted discrimination among people.

LSG

I am quoting your post since it is easier for me to explain. Nothing specific against your views / post.

Hinduism is under threat is the rhetoric purported by politicos & those who really do not understand the same. Hinduism is not a religion with strict rules & regulations and it is a Open Source Religion. It survived many worse onslaughts in the past and may survive all the future onslaughts too - just because it allows all POVs / counter points.

As I have pointed out many times, Upanishads have the maximum counter arguments (infinity times more than what Atheists of India say) and the way of learning Hinduism was through that route.

For eg the character Jabali in Valmiki Ramayana puts forth the best arguments as an Atheist. The gist is

*Atheism is a rebel theory based on logic and reason. It rebelled against kings, priests and the religion.

*Atheists need not be UNETHICAL. Atheists can also be MORALLY UPRIGHT.. Morality need not be the exclusive preserve of priests and princes.

As Satchi pointed out, some unscrupulous elements twisted the concepts to personally gain and control others during the last few centuries. At least the Muslim invaders were forthright in destroying the Hindu monuments & scriptures (openly).

But the British took a very cunning & devious route. They exploited the Hindu elements and inserted lot of new things which were not there in original just to distort & degrade the religion. Most of the commentaries written during that period were full of gas / imagined / wrongly interpreted.

But our historians & politicos refer only those things now and many believe that they were true.

We were deliberately forced to think that our ancestors were barbarians ( & worshipping animals etc) and our traditional education system was destroyed and changed to a new system.

In short, we were made to be ashamed of our own past & religion.

What Satchi says that we have to come out of the ring with our mind open to be able to understand better.

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 11:21 AM

Atheist & Hinduism:

Atheism existed as an undercurrent of Hinduism atleast since 600 B.C. from the time Charvaka (or Charvaka-I, as some would like to name him to distinguish him from the later Charvakas) coined his philosophy. Charvaka's philosophy did not accept the existence of either God or Brahman, and so was clubbed with Buddhism and Jainism (which too rejected the concept of God / Brahman) as Sunyavada.

It appears that the society was more open to divergent thought in the Vedic period. So, though amounting to heresy, Charvaka's School as well as its guide-text, the Brihaspathi Sutra, were allowed free currency. Philosophers belonging to the Charvaka line were invited to the scholarly gatherings, where fierce debates would take place on the existence or the absence of God / Brahman. While treatises were being written against each other's arguments, apparently no restriction on freedom of expression was in vogue (a view expressed by Dr. S.Radhakrishnan).

While Brihaspati Sutra itself got lost, Sri Madhvacharya quoted verbatim from the said text in 14th Century A.D. (in the process of refuting Charvaka's tenets in his Sarva Dashana Samgraha), which today gives us a glimpse of what exactly the philosophy of Charvaka was:

While life is yours live joyously;
No one can avoid Death's searching eye:
When this body of ours is burnt,
How can it ever return again?

That the pleasure arising to man
from contact with sensible objects
is to be relinquished because it is accompanied by pain,
is the reasoning of fools.

Here the Charvaka School differs from Jainism & Buddhism that advocate relinquishing wordly pleasures.

The kernels of the paddy are rich with finest white grains,
What man, seeking his own true interest, would fling them away
because of a covering of husk and dust?

The Sacrifices, the three Vedas, the ascetic's three staves,
and smearing oneself with ashes,
according to Brihaspati are but means of livelihood for those who
have no manliness nor sense.

(very strong statement indeed!)

Charvaka School accepted only four elements - earth, fire, water and air - and refuted the fifth one - Akasha or aether - as nonsense. It said that knowledge is a product of these four elements, and gets destroyed when these elements in the body are destroyed, i.e., consciousness perishes with the body, or there is nothing after the body perishes.

Springing forth from these elements itself,
solid knowledge is destroyed when they are destroyed.
After death no intelligence remains, thus spake Brihaspati.

There is no heaven, no final liberation,nor any soul in another
world, Nor do the actions of the four castes,orders,
or priesthoods produce any real effect.

The following verses are Charvaka's pun on sacrificial offerings:

If a beast slain as an offering to the dead will itself go to heaven,
why does the sacrificer not straightway offer his father?

If offerings to the dead produce gratification
to those who have reached the land of the dead,
why the need to set out provisions
for travellers starting on their journey?

(=Why not send them directly?)

If our offering sacrifices here gratify beings in heaven,
why not make food offerings down below
to gratify those standing on house-tops?

While life remains, let a man live happily,
let him feed on butter though he runs in debt;
When once the body becomes ashes,
how can it ever return again?

In Telugu, the above verse can be summarized as "Appu Chesi Pappu Koodu". I am sure there will be an equivalent in Tamil.

If he who departs from the body goes to another world,
why does he not come back again,
restless for love of his kin-folk?

It is only as a means of livelihood
that brahmins have established here
abundant ceremonies for the dead -
there is no other fruit anywhere.
Hence for kindness to the mass of living beings
we must fly for refuge in the doctrine of Charvaka.

While reading the above verses, we must not forget that Charvaka himself was a Brahmin. He must have got thoroughly disillusioned with the ritualism in vogue during those days to say these things.

Charvaka picked on certain grotesque rituals that accompanied Yagas such as Ashwamedha (please do your own research to know what these were), and very strongly rebelled against them. He said:

The three authors of the Vedas were buffoons, knaves, and demons.
All the well-known formulae of the pandits such as jarphari and
turphari, and all the obscene rites for the queen commanded in
Aswamedha,were invented by buffoons, and so were the various
kinds of presents to the priests,while the eating of flesh was
similarly commanded by night-prowling demons.

It appears that while he advocated balanced enjoyment of earthly pleasures, Charvaka was against the animal sacrifices and eating of animal flesh. He wanted some kind of reform in the religion as it was practised then. Since the name Charvaka means, "the one who speaks sweetly," Charvaka must have been a soft-spoken man who possessed good oratory skills, and must have been popular with the masses who were experiencing some kind of revulsion towards ritualistic religion. I do not know though, what Jarphari and Turphari (to which he was referring to in the above verse) were.

A few Hindus / Brahmins apparently have not seen any contradiction between being an atheist and being Hindu. Vinayaka Damodar Savarkar, or Veer Savarkar as he is referred to, was an atheist (not withstanding the fact that he was a Chitpavan Brahmin and one of the founders of Hindu Mahasabha, and was also named in the "Right Wing Hindu Plot" to assassinate M.K.Gandhi). Those who consider Hinduism as a way of life rather than a religion sometimes extend strong arguments to be an Atheist and a Hindu. When these people call themselves Hindu / Brahmin, the word rather refers to the cultural aspects of Hinduism / Brahminism.

Those who have read Valmiki Ramayana would remember a sage, Jabali, who comes to Rama in the forest after he abdicates the throne in favour of Bharatha (Ayodhya Kanda : Sarga 108, 109 & 110). Jabali urgen upon Rama to default and go back on the promise made to his father Dasharatha, giving several atheistic arguments, as to why Rama should not bother about the promise made to his father or the "other world", and why he should think only about this world. Rama gets taken aback by this preaching by a sage, and questions Jabali as to how a sage could advice him this way? Vasistha does a timely step in, and saves the situation. "Brahmin atheists" or "atheist Brahmins" have been around since those times.

From the blogsphere.

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 11:29 AM

Hinduism : What is the significance of Samkhya philosophy?
Samkhya is among the foremost philosophy along with Vedanta in Hindu school of thoughts.

1. Is the Samkhya philosophy which says ''Eshwar asidhye' meaning "God can not be proved", atheistic in ideology?

Samkhya is also the base inspiration for modern day rationalism. Kapila Muni is credited with the philosophy of Samkhya.

2. Is this Kapila Muni the same mentioned by Lord Krishna in Bhagavad Gita 10.26 ~~ 'siddhānāḿ kapilo muniḥ' - 'Among the perfect beings, I am sage Kapila' ?

Traces of this school of thought can be found in many upanisads. In many places in the Gita Sri Krishna refers to his philosophy as Sankhya while Vedanta is sparingly used.

I am inclined to think that Sankhya and Vedanta were one school in the beginning that drifted apart latter on. The founder of this system were Sri Kapila who is reverentially mentioned in Ch 10 of Bhagavad Gita, in Mahabharata, Caraka Samhita and Bhagawat Purana.

The drift towards atheism is noted as early as it is recorded in Mahabharata about an atheist Samkhya scholar named Pancha sikha. (Mbh 12.219). Mahabharata 12.318 mentions three schools of Samkhya who admitted 24 categories, 25 categories and 26 categories. The last admitted a Supreme Being in addition to the purusha in exactly the same way as Patanjali mentions Isvara in Yoga Sutras.

Thus there must have existed different schools of Samkhya from early times. Latter this divergence grew as Bhagawat Purana in 11th Skandha mentions many schools of Samkhya but unfortunately their literature is lost. But the school of Panchasikha must have gained precedence as can be found in one of the principle Samkhya texts which is Samkhya Karika written by Isvara Krishna.

The tendency on atheistic side must have been because it was thought that purusha and prakriti were enough to explain the world and the the theory of Isvara was not needed. This school is many a times called Classical Samkhya to differentiate it from Theistic Samkhya.

According to them it is because of proximity of purusha with Isvara that prakriti which was the potential universe manifested itself into the world through evolution of different categories. But all these texts claim to have adopted their theories from the orignal work of Kapila Rishi which is Sastritantra Sastra which has been lost as far back as Isvara Krishna's time ie in about 100 A.D.

The Ahirbudhnya Samhita is aware of this text and claims to enumarated its philospophy on its basis. Also Bhagawat Purana mentions Samkhya theories ascribed to Kapila. But all these are theistic and may much different from the theories of classical Samkhya.

If we believe that Sastritantra referred to in the Ahirbudhnya Samhita to be based in all essential parts the same work composed by Kapila Rishi then it has to be assumed that Kapila's Samkhya was theistic.

There are reasons to beleieve this because Ahirbudhnya Samhita mentions the exact division of chapters of this work and seems to have been acquainted with it. Also there is hardly any difference between the theories enumerated in Ahirbudhnya Samhita and Bhagawat Purana.

To conclude, in my opinion the Rishi Kapila mentioned in Bhagavat Purana is the same as the Rishi Kapila, the founder of the Samkhya School of Thought.

From Blogsphere.

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 11:44 AM

Why Women are advised to be away during Periods ?

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=njfQfrMr31EC&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=menstruation+of+women+affecting+plants&source=bl&ots=chhtSZOAPh&sig=kr2CnBzhBSVrK4208MxIPFy6hQ4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=V-4cULeNOcrhrAevzIDoBg&sqi=

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 11:48 AM

http://www.babycenter.com.my/pregnancy/asian-postnatal-practices/indian-confinement/

Indian confinement practices

What is confinement?
In a traditional Indian home, confinement serves to keep a new mum and her baby within a room or in a particular section of the house for an extended period after delivery.

It is generally believed that confinement arose from the need to nurture a new mother's body back to its pre-pregnancy form and help her recover from the rigours of childbirth. The loss of blood and energy is said to have caused her body to enter a "cold stage". As with traditional Chinese beliefs, traditional Indian postnatal practices aim to help the new mum rejuvenate her body by making it "warm" again.

Confinement practices and the length of confinement are different in the various regional communities of India. These regional differences have followed the Indian community in Malaysia, and a new mum is most likely to observe the confinement practices familiar to the older women in her own family.

They may be helped by a special assistant traditionally known as a dai or (increasingly common) a maid. Traditionally, the dai prepares special meals for the new mum, massages and bathes her and her baby, and does the laundry.

The confinement period is laced with many restrictions in food and movement. But in the end, it is all about helping the new mum relax and regain her energy.

How long is the confinement period?
The confinement period varies according to the region in India. In most of north, west and south India, confinement stretches to about 40 days after the baby is born. In the east, especially in the north-eastern states, the concept of confinement is not practised rigorously.

It is not unusual for some new mums to avoid the confinement period as they feel they do not require it. You may end it early to get back to work. Or you may extend it to receive more help and care.

What are the common confinement restrictions?
Restrictions are followed by different families in varying degrees. It is believed that following these restrictions helps a mother avoid health problems such as rheumatism, arthritis, headaches and body pains later in life.

Here are some of the most common confinement restrictions you may be expected to follow:

• Bathe only in warm water that has been boiled with neem leaves. It is believed the leaves are a natural antiseptic, and lukewarm water can soothe tired, aching muscles.

• Cover your head with a scarf, keep the windows closed, wear socks and remain in bed as long as possible (to prevent chills and allow the mother to rest in the initial days).

• Avoid air-conditioners and fans. This is done to avoid excessive temperature fluctuations, which some believe can cause you to catch a cold.

• No reading and no watching TV (too tiring).

• No shouting, crying, or engaging in conversation for too long (too stressful).

• No bending over at the waist (to prevent back injuries).

• No cooking or doing housework of any kind.

• Staying in your room or the confinement area in the house (generally believed to help you avoid infections).

Are massages a part of confinement?
Both mother and baby receive massages or maalish during confinement. The dai massages the mother and the baby daily with oils (ghee in north India, mustard oil in the east and coconut oil in the south). She rubs the mother's abdomen and binds it with a long cloth to tighten up the lax muscles. Maalish is believed to help the new mum relax and get back into shape.

The dai massages the baby too. It is supposed to be good for his bones and overall development. Initially, the baby may cry during a massage, but he gradually settles down and learns to enjoy it. In some families, atta (dough) is rubbed over the baby's forehead and body to remove excessive hair.

After the massage and bath, the dai usually applies kajal on your baby's forehead to ward off the "evil eye".

What are the diet restrictions of the confinement period?
During confinement, you will be put on a special diet. The aim of this diet is to boost your immunity and strength. The general rules are:

• Eat warm foods and avoid the ones that are considered "cool", such as cucumber, cabbage and pineapple. It is believed that such "cooling" foods can cause rheumatism and arthritis later in life. Read more about traditional confinement foods for new mums.

• Eat gourds such as lauki and tori which are believed to increase the milk supply.

• Eat paan (betel leaves) after every meal.

• Increase the amount of ghee in the diet; it is supposed to help regain strength and aid muscle repair.

• Avoid fruits, aerated drinks and juices.

• Substitute green and red chillies with black pepper in your meals.

• Stay away from "windy" foods such as onions and jackfruit as they are traditionally believed to cause colic in your baby.

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 12:00 PM

Traditional Oil Massage for Infants - Kerala Style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QziY0FXuj3Q

kannan infratech

August 4th, 2012, 12:05 PM

உணவே மருந்து

http://foodstuff.hubpages.com/hub/Food-as-MedicineSeasonal-Eating

Food as Medicine - Seasonal Eating :

http://www.bluelotusayurveda.com/nutrition_art.html

kannan infratech

August 8th, 2012, 02:13 PM

Dark matter is the 7th Wind (of the Seven wind currents) of the Cosmos of the Hindu Thought.

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2012/07/dark-matter-is-7th-wind-of-seven-wind.html

God particle is the Purusha, the 25th principle of Hindu Thought.

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2012/07/god-particle-is-purusha-25th-principle.html

kannan infratech

August 9th, 2012, 11:25 AM

Space Time as per Hindu Scriptutrs :

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_time.asp

kannan infratech

August 9th, 2012, 11:29 AM

Amazing Science & Hinduism :

http://www.hinduism.co.za/amazing.htm

Hinduism & Quantum Physics :

http://www.hinduism.co.za/hinduism.htm

kannan infratech

August 9th, 2012, 11:39 AM

The Hidden Science of Lost Civilizations :

http://suite101.com/article/the-hidden-science-of-lost-civilizations-a407832

kannan infratech

August 9th, 2012, 11:49 AM

Hinduism Concepts & QP :

Dvaita Vedanta (dualistic conclusions to the Vedas) is similar to classical physics in that it claims the universe is composed of separate distinct pieces, and therefore is incompatible with the Wave/Particle theory.

Advaita Vedanta (non-dualistic conclusions to the Vedas) claims the universe is merely one whole and therefore particles do not exist they are merely illusion. This is also incompatible with Quantum Physics because QP does not claim particles don't exist, QP merely claims that it is an illusion to see them as separate from the waves and fields they emerge from. The Bell Tests even showed that two different particles are connected over long distances in space as well.

Vishishtadvaita Vedanta (qualitative non-dualistic conclusions to the Vedas, or non-dualism with qualities) is directly compatible with QP because it claims that everything in the universe is intertwined but unlike pure non-dualism it claims that different things exist as different qualities and therefore exist qualitatively. In other words particles behave with the qualities of a particle, a rock has the qualities of a rock, but all these things exist intertwined with all other things. It's like a compromise between wave (non-duality) and particle (duality) where particles emerge as a qualitatively measurable occurences but remain intimately interconnected with the universe. However, it is also incompatible with QP because VV declares a God and QP makes no attempt to define a God.

Buddhism is a little trickier. Early Buddhism is like Advaita Vedanta in that it claims that the universe is empty (sunyata) of separate forms. The universal interconnectedness is taken more literally to mean ultimate truth is in the elimination of the idea of "things". However, later Buddhism like Tibetan Buddhism is a little more flexible when speaking of things, and therefore it can be said that later Buddhism allows for the discussion of particles as long as they are seen as intertwined with the universe. Plus because Buddhism does not try to prove a God it is even more compatible. It ends up being how you understand sunyata and anatman (no-self), if you take it literally that there are no particles then it is incompatible with QP, but if you allow fr qualitative existence that remains intertwined in the whole then it is compatible with QP.

kannan infratech

August 9th, 2012, 12:10 PM

This one is for Sachi.

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/upanishad/upan_11a.html

The most interesting portion is as follows :

There was a great sage called Narada, whose name appears in all the Epics and Puranas. Narada was a very great angel, a Godman who could travel through all the realms of being. He went to a great master called Sanatkumara. Sanatkumara is supposed to be the son of Brahma, the Creator Himself.

Narada requested the master Sanatkumara, "Great sir, teach me."

The master said, "First of all, let me know what you already know. Then I shall try to say something."

Narada said, "I am a master of all the arts and the sciences – astronomy, cosmography, physics, chemistry, biology, psychology, psychoanalysis, axiology, ethics, sociology, economics, military science, history, religion, philosophy and necromancy. There is nothing in which I am not proficient, but I have no peace of mind."

After having learnt so much, mastered every science and every art of the world, the great Narada said, "I have no peace of mind. Please give me peace of mind."

The great master retorted, "Oh, all that you have studied is mere words – namaivaitat – only words and words and words. Therefore, how can you have peace of mind?"

There is a very long discussion, which is the teaching of Sanatkumara to Narada. The essence of it is that the teacher gradually took the mind of the student from the lower level of comprehension to the next higher, and then stopped. Then the student asked, "Is there anything still further?"

"Yes," replied the teacher. He took him to the third level.

Then the student asked, "Is there anything further?"

"Yes."

Sanatkumara took him to the fourth level. He would not tell him all things at the same time. Then, he took him to another level, beyond which he said there is nothing.

"Are there objects in the world?" asked Narada.

"Yes, there are objects."

"Is there anything beyond the objects?"

"That of which the objects are constituted is above the objects."

"What is it, of which the objects are constituted?"

"The molecules."

"What is above the molecules?"

"The atoms."

"What is above the atoms?"

"Energy content."

"What is above the energy?"

"There is only space and time."

"Is there anything above space and time?"

I am not telling you the exact words recorded in the Upanishad, as they are too tedious and cumbersome to understand. I am putting it in a more moderate way, which will be intelligible to you. From the outer to the inner, from the external to the internal, from the lower to the higher is the mind gradually taken in this way of analysing the substance of all things.

The dialogue continued. "What is above space-time? If space-time is the essence of all things because nothing can exist without space-time, is there anything above space and time?" asked Narada.

"The consciousness of space and time is above," replied Sanatkumara.

Are you not conscious that there is space and time? Don't you feel that consciousness precedes space and time? That which precedes is, therefore, higher than that which succeeds.

suncar

September 2nd, 2012, 11:45 PM

Floating stones in Ram Setu - Scientific validation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KRxel0FEkY

P.S. During my visit to Sri Lanka, Chinmaya Mission and a Buddhist Monk (Bali Language Specialist) showed me these Floating stones. Demonstrated too. Amazing.

Hi Kannan

I admire your postings here and our ancient people wisdom. Really a treat n treasure. One doubt if floating stone was used how would it have been possible to use it to reach lanka - i doubt as t ocean current wil make it move and the stones wont be stable to travel on them??:ohno:

My humble request to you to make the postings more easier and understandable as sometimes I m reading more than once but cant get t essence especially the universe (postings from the first two pages) Sorpozhivu mathiri kuduthaal nallaa irukkum.

regards

Shankar.

kannan infratech

September 3rd, 2012, 07:03 PM

suncar / Shankar,

Floating stones are used as buoys on which tress and Earth (Stones, sand etc) and creepers were used to build a bridge. The remains of these are the coral reefs we found even now.

TRB dredging ship had to change the cutting blades so many timea in a day whereas normally they would last for months.

Please download these info and read at leisure. I started understanding them post 40 years only.

krishnaswamy

September 3rd, 2012, 07:43 PM

From FB:
ஆதித் தமிழன் எந்த ஒரு செயலையும் " எடுத்தோம், கவிழ்த்தோம் " என்று செய்ததில்லை, தான் செய்து வைத்து விட்டு சென்ற ஒவ்வொரு விடயத்திற்கு பின்னாலும், " அறிவியல், மருத்துவம், விஞ்ஞானம், என்ற எண்ணற்ற விடயங்கள் அதனுடன் விட்டுச் சென்றிருக்கிறான்.ஆனால் அதனுடன் சேர்த்து அவன் செய்துவிட்டு சென்ற மிகப்பெரிய தவறு, அந்த ஒவ்வொன்றிற்கும் பின்னால் " கடவுள் " பெயரை சொல்லிவிட்டு சென்றது தான்,ஒருவேளை அவன் கடவுள் பெயரை கூ
றினாலாவது பயந்து கொண்டு அந்த விடயங்களை கடைபிடிப்பார்கள் என்ற தொலை நோக்கு பார்வையாக கூட இருந்திருக்கலாம், ஆனால் பாவம் அவனுக்கு தெரியாது, வரும் சந்ததியினர், கவர்ச்சி நடிகைக்கெல்லாம் கோயில் எழுப்பி,தான் பெரிதாக நினைத்த கடவுளையே கூட இழிவு படுத்துவர் என்று.

இன்றைக்கு பகுத்தறிவு என்ற பெயரில், நம் முன்னோர்களின் பல அறிய கண்டுபிடுப்புகளை நாளுக்கு நாள் நாம் அழித்துக் கொண்டு வருகிறோம் என்று தான் கூற வேண்டும்,கோவிலுக்கு செல்ல கூடாது,சாமியும் இல்லை,பூதமும் இல்லை, என்ற வாதம் தான் இன்றைய பகுத்தறிவின் வெளிப்பாடாக இருக்கின்றது.அது உண்மையா,பொய்யா என்பது தனி நபர் விருப்பத்திற்கு உட்பட்டது.ஆனால் நாளடைவில் அந்த விடயம் பலரால்,பலவிதமாக திரித்து இன்று நம் அடையாளங்களை இழக்கும் நிலைக்கு வந்து விட்டோம் என்பதே உண்மை.

கடவுளின் பெயரை கூறி நடக்கும் மூட நம்பிக்கைகளை தடுத்து நிறுத்துவது தானே உண்மையான பகுத்தறிவு?உதாரணத்திற்கு பவுர்ணமி அன்று கிரிவலம் வந்தால் நல்லது, என்பதற்கு பின்னால் கடவுளின் பெயரை கூறியதால் இன்று நாத்திகர்கள் அதை செய்வது இல்லை, ஆனால் இதற்கு பின்னால் இருக்கும் அறிவியல், முழு நிலவு அன்று நிலாவிலிருந்து வரும் ஒளிக்கதிரில் உள்ள ஒருவித " பாசிடிவ் எனர்ஜி " நாம் சுற்றிவரும் மலையின் மீது பட்டு,நம் உடலில் இறங்கினால் நல்லது என அதையே தான் இன்று விஞ்ஜானம் கூறுகின்றது.

இன்றைக்கு இருப்பதை போன்று கேளிக்கைகளுக்கு திரை அரங்குகளோ,கல்வி கற்பதற்கு "ஏரிகளின்" மேல் கல்லூரிகளோ, மருத்துவமனைகளோ அவர்கள் கட்டிவைக்க வில்லை, இவை அனைத்தும் நடந்தது ஓரே இடத்தில், ஒரு இடத்திற்கு சென்றால் அனைத்தையும் கற்க முடியும் என்றால் ( களவி உட்பட ) அது அன்று கோவில்களாக மட்டுமே இருந்துள்ளது, அது ஒரு பல்கலைக்கழமாகவே இருந்துள்ளது , அதனால் தான் கோவில் சிற்பங்களில் களவி சம்மந்தப்பட்ட சிற்ப்பங்கள் கூட காண நேர்கின்றது," கோவில்களில் கேளிக்கைகளுக்கு நாட்டியங்கள் அரங்கேறியுள்ளது, கல்வி கற்க பாட சாலைகள் அமைக்கப்பட்டது.

சில கோவில்கள் மருத்துவமனைகளாகவும் செயல்பட்டுள்ளது ,உதாரணத்திற்கு திருச்சி, திருவைகுண்டத்தை கூட கூறலாம் அங்கே ஆயிரம் வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னே,வெறும் மூலிகைகளை வைத்து "......." சர்ஜரி வரை நடைபெற்றுள்ளது. இன்றைக்கு இருப்பதை போன்று அன்று அனைவரும் மாடி வீடுகளில் தங்கி இருக்க வாய்ப்பில்லை ஆக பெரு வெள்ளம் வரும் போது, பெரும் பாறைகளால், பெரும் உழைபிற்கு மத்தியில் உருவான இந்த கோயில்களில் மட்டுமே மக்கள் தஞ்சம் அடைந்திருக்க கூடும் , கோவில் தூண்களில் தான் நம் கலைகளை வளர்த்துள்ளோம், அங்கே ஒவ்வொரு சிற்பமும் சொல்லும் கதை தான், இன்றைய அறிவியல் கண்டுபிடிப்புகள்.ஆயிரம் வருடங்களுக்கு மேல் நம்முடம் பயணிக்கும் கோயில்கள் அமைந்திருக்கும் இடம் சாதாரமாக தேர்வு செய்து கட்டி இருக்க வாய்புகள் இருக்காது.அந்த இடமானது பூமத்திய ரேகை கோட்பாடுகளின் படி அறிவியல் அமைப்புகளுடன் மட்டுமே கட்டப்பட்டிருக்கும், இன்றைக்கு இருக்கும் நிலப் பதிவு அலுவலகம் அன்று கிடையாது,கோவில் கல்வெட்டுகள் முழுவதும் தான் அது பதியப்பட்டுள்ளது,அந்த கல்வெட்டுகளில் தான் தமிழனின் வரலாறு புதைந்துள்ளது.

தஞ்சை பெரிய கோயில் கட்டியது " ராஜ ராஜன் " என்று ஹார்ட் டிஸ்கிலோ, பென்ட்ரைவிலோ பதியப்படவில்லை, அனைத்தும் கோயில் கல்வெட்டுகள் மூலமே நமக்கு தெரிய வருகின்றது, அப்படி இருக்க பகுத்தறிவின் பெயரில் இப்பேற்பட்ட நம் வரலாற்று சின்னங்களை கொஞ்சம், கொஞ்சமாக அழிப்பது எந்த விதத்தில் நியாயம்? என்று யோசித்து பாருங்கள் ! வரலாற்று அடையாளங்கள் வேண்டாம் ,மொழி மட்டும் போதும் என்பவர்கள் ,மரங்கள் வேண்டாம் ஆக்சிஜன் மட்டும் போதும் என்று முரண்பாடான கருத்தை கூறுவதைப் போன்றது என்பதை உணரவேண்டும்.

ஐயாயிரம் வருடத்திற்கு முன்பே தமிழன் சித்த வைத்தியத்தில் கூறிய மஞ்சளுக்கு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரன் உரிமை வாங்கி வைத்துள்ளான்,வீட்டு முற்றத்தில் தமிழன் வளர்த்த வேப்பமரத்திற்கு வெளிநாட்டுக்காரன் உரிமை வாங்கி வைத்துள்ளான், இன்னும் எதை எல்லாம் தொலைக்கைப்போகிறோம் ? மொழி கலப்படமாகிவிட்டது, உடை மேற்கத்திய உடை, கலப்படம் இல்லாமல் பழமையுடன் காட்சியளிப்பதும், நாம் பழமையானவர்கள் என்று ஆதாரத்துடன் நிரூபிப்பதும்,இந்த கோயில்களை வைத்து மட்டுமே என்பதை நாம் எப்போது உணரப்போகிறோம்? அடுத்த தலைமுறைக்கு எதை விட்டுச்செல்லவிருக்கிறோம்?

தொலைத்தது வரை போதும், மீதம் உள்ளவயேனும் காப்பாற்றுவோம்.வரலாற்று சின்னங்களான நம் கோவில்களை காப்போம்.அந்த சிலைகளில் கூறப்பட்டுள்ள செய்திகளை உலகறிய செய்வோம் !தமிழை அடுத்த நிலைக்கு அழைத்துச் செல்வோம்.!!!

satchitananda

September 4th, 2012, 03:52 PM

It appears that there are three basic forms - Subjective (asserted by I), Objective (the world) and the connecting Transcendence. The interesting thing is the above philosophy is mirrored by our ancient seers as Adhyathmika (Subjective), Athibautika(Objective) and Athideivika (Connecting Transcendenace).

In any perception, all three seem to be at play. If I see a tree, I (Subjective) exists, Tree (World) exists and there is something in between that exists. It is not merely light falling on the tree, reflected back to our eye and the brain translates.

Most of the time, we either focus on the subjective (religion) or objective (Science). Since they are mutually exclusive by their definition, the other side always seem to be at logger heads. In reality, neither science nor spirituality butt heads. Its only the pseudo followers of either side stake their positions fighting their egos out without understanding the transcending principle connecting both.

While pure science or self styled rationalists try to make a subjective experience objective, which is not possible, some highly conservative religious folks seem not to understand the science behind certain actions suggested by the ancient seers. Add to this confusion, some -ves picked by society steeped in the name of culture or the inability of the parroting loyalist of either side to have an open mind to absorb and understand principles which are above our existence.

Suggestion was made in one of the recent audio lectures I heard to focus the attention on the third principle. Again since this is a subjective experience that has to be approached scientifically, (NOTE it has already unified the two extremes), one has to use the assistance of someone who has been before us or some techniques or literature that holds our hands and walks us.

To the most common man from India, we have a wonderful treasure in Bhagavat Gita, which talks about all these three principles. Implore us to dive into this timeless gem.

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 05:48 PM

My friends were joking that only if Chetan Bhagat writes about Bhagvad Gita, the youngsters will read.

We need writers like Sujatha who can explain complex concepts / issues in simple language.

satchitananda

September 4th, 2012, 06:06 PM

My friends were joking that only if Chetan Bhagat writes about Bhagvad Gita, the youngsters will read.

We need writers like Sujatha who can explain complex concepts / issues in simple language.

Perhaps one more commentary would not make any difference. I believe this will be one of the most commentary written books of all times.

While the words can be interpreted in a zillion ways as by the level of the perceiver, what is perhaps more required is to awaken this sleeping person.. Uthishta jagrata (Arise, Awake)

I believe with the scores of commentaries existing, one might find something to nourish from this cosmic nectar. The key being to awaken this dormant giant within.

Which may be a better option - a Blog or a separate thread to analyze the finer aspects ??

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 06:25 PM

As the School Pupil Leader, I had to recite one kural / sloka / Noble Men's saying every day.
One day, I recited a Bhagvad Gita sloka (as suggested by my mother)

We had a Tamil Teacher who was fantastic in our school. He asked the students in the assembly if anybody understood anything. None raised their hands. Then he asked the teachers & staff and none raised their hands.

From that day onwards, he used to prepare me well. After each sloka, I will tell a small story (as explained by him) which will highlight the concept in that particular sloka. It was a huge success. He even presented me a Tamil Book with very short stories for preparation.

Even the neighbouring Primary & Girls schools teachers used to attend our assembly for this. I felt like a Hero when I was asked to attend the Girls School assembly once a week to render these slokas & stories.

My wife learnt to recite Bhagvad Gita as part of her Therapeutic Yoga Teacher training with its sound modulations.

But due to my work pressure, I am not able to devote much time.

I will add this - Explaining Gita in simple language esp for Youngsters - as one of my future projects.(post retirement)

FB language la Sollanum. :)

jaish

September 4th, 2012, 06:43 PM

Appa matuma neenga hero eppavum neenga herothan

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 06:52 PM

Please read this Blog.

http://sreemadbhagawadgeeta.wordpress.com/category/gita-for-children/

http://sreemadbhagawadgeeta.wordpress.com/category/gita-stories/

jaish

September 4th, 2012, 06:54 PM

@ krish,

I don't want to spoil the spirit of this thread. i would disagree to whatever you have posted.

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 06:55 PM

One good Example:

Gita for Children – 1
Posted on December 13, 2008 by saadhika

Young girl: Mommy! Can you solve this riddle for me?
Mommy: Well, my little darling, I can try.
Young Girl: What is it that can speak any language; does not speak until spoken to and it is sometimes strong and sometimes weak?
Mommy: It must be very clever. Can speak any language, did you say? And very polite too; does not speak until spoken to. I wonder! You can tell me the answer.
Young girl: It’s an Echo!
Mommy: That’s a very clever riddle. I enjoyed that.
Now it is my turn to ask you a riddle. Can I?
Young girl: Yes Mommy.
Mommy: What is it that weapons can not cut it; fire can not burn it; water can not make it wet and the air can not make it dry?
Young girl: Mommy, if weapons can not cut it and fire can not burn it then it is something indestructible, and waterproof on top of it! Mommy, please tell me what can it be? Now I am really curious to know.
Mommy: It’s the Soul also known as the Self or the Atman. This riddle is taken from the Bhagavad Gita, second chapter, verse 23. It is written in Sanskrit language and reads:
“Nainam chhindanti shastraani, nainam dahati paavakah,
Na cha enam kledayanti aapah, na shoshayati maarutah“.
Na=not, Enam=this (Soul or Self), Chhindanti=to cut,
Shastraani=by weapons, Na=not, Enam=this, Dahati=burns,
Paavakah=by fire, Na=not, Cha=and (even), Enam=this,
Kledayanti=wet, Aapah=(by) water, Na=not, Shoshayati=dries,
Marutah=air (wind).
‘Enam’ refers to the Soul within the body (the embodied soul).
Young girl: If the Soul is indestructible, then what happens to it when a person dies? And what happens to the body when a person dies?
Mommy: In order to understand the relationship of the soul with the body, let me make it very simple by asking you to play the part of the wooden puppet Pinocchio. If we want Pinocchio, the wooden puppet, to be alive, and be able to behave like us, then Pinocchio will have to be provided with some highly specialised equipments.
Let us begin with the tongue. Pinocchio will have to have a tongue with which to experience different tastes such as sweet, bitter, sour, salty, pungent (hot) etc.
Going up the face from the tongue, we come to the nostrils. Pinocchio can smell different types of smells, fragrances and odours. When Pinocchio comes home from school, at times he can tell by the smell of the delicious food from the kitchen that his mommy has prepared his favourite dish.
Going further up the face , we come to the eyes. Pinocchio will acquire the power of vision that will enable him to see different types of shapes (forms), and different types of colours as well as intensity of light (bright or dark).
Next to the eyes are the ears. Without the ability to hear, Pinocchio will not be able to learn how to speak. His ability to communicate with people will be restricted. Without the hearing abilities of the ears, Pinocchio will not be able to listen to the sounds of musical instruments or hear songs. In the wilds, he will not be able to hear and thereby be warned of the presence of wild animals.
So far we have talked about the tongue, the nostrils, the eyes, and the ears. One more, from amongst the five highly specialised equipments is still to be considered. Can you tell me what it can be?
Young girl: Something to do with touch?
Mommy: You are absolutely right. Touching by the skin provides information such as cold or hot, sharp or blunt, hard or rough or soft etc.
These five equipments are known as organs of (sense) perception (Gnana indriya); Gnana = knowledge, indriya = organ.
These five organs of perception gather information or knowledge relating to taste,smells,vision,sounds and touch. The eyes are like the lenses of cameras, capturing the vista before the cameras; and the ears are like microphones capturing sound.
Young girl: Mommy, are there any more equipments besides these five organs of perception?
Mommy: Oh yes! Again, to make the explanations very simple, I will relate about an incident in the life of Pinocchio……

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 07:22 PM

Gita for Children – 2
Posted on December 13, 2008 by saadhika
….. Continued from Gita for Children - 1

One day, Pinocchio was very naughty and did not want to listen to his mother. So his mother scolded him and Pinocchio got upset and was very cross.
Can Pinocchio get cross with his skin or with his ears? Obviously not. Pinocchio will have to be provided with the mind to take care of his emotional needs.
Another day, Pinocchio was very helpful to his mother, and upon being praised by his mother, he was feeling happy and elated. The mind was feeling the emotion of happiness.The mind provides the emotional needs which produce joy and sorrow, happiness and unhappiness anger and peacefulness etc.The mind is also an equipment but it is not visible and therefore it is called subtle. The mind’s work is far more specialised and complex than that of the five organs of perception. In fact, without the mind, the organs of perception will become powerless to register the information or knowledge they gather.
And yet, there is still one more highly specialised equipment, without which Pinocchio will be greatly handicapped in life. To illustrate the point:
One day, Pinocchio was at school and the teacher was teaching maths to his class.The teacher wanted to test the pupils and asked them to spot an error.
On the black board the teacher had written 2 + 2 = 5. Many of the pupils raised their hands to point out to the teacher that two plus two makes four and not five.These pupils demonstrated the ability to distinguish between right and wrong.
Now, for doing the job of distinguishing (discriminating) between the right and the wrong, Pinocchio will have to be provided with intellect. Intellect is also an equipment. It’s more subtler than the mind. The intellect will exercise the faculty of discrimination. It can be trained to tell the difference between what is Real and what is unreal. It can make out what is right and what is wrong in the spiritual and social fields connected with ethics, morality, justice, conduct or behaviour, speech etc.
Swami Chinmayanand referred to these equipments as B-M-I (body-mind-intellect). The big question is: If the five organs of perception attached to the body,plus the mind, plus the intellect are all equipments,then WHO AM I?
I am the Soul or the Atman also known as the Self. The body-mind intellect (B-M-I) equipments are attached to the body. The indwelling (embodied) Soul enables these equipments to function. Often the example of electricity is cited. Electricity is invisible but the effects of electricity are seen or felt as in an electric light bulb or a heater, an electric fan or a hot plate on an electric cooking stove. A radio or a television set is enabled to function when powered by electricity. Similarly the B-M-I equipments are powered by the Soul.
The body can remain functioning even when some of these equipments are damaged. The body can function without the power of vision in the eyes or the power of hearing in the ears. A person can be mentally deranged and can still be living. Another can be brain damaged, but still be alive. The presence of the indwelling Soul keeps it alive.
The indwelling Soul or the embodied Self is described in the Bhagavad Gita as being:
Eternal, indestructible, and immeasurable. (Gita, Ch.2. verse18.)
Unborn and inexhaustible (Gita, Ch.2 Verse 21).
Stable, immovable, ancient. (Gita Ch.2 verse 24.)
Unmanifested, unthinkable, unchangeable. (Gita Ch.2. verse 25.)
The Soul passes unchanged from the baby into childhood, from childhood to youth to middle age to old age.Thereafter the Soul passes unchanged from one body and enters into another body. -(Gita Ch.2, Verse 13.)
The embodied Self or the Soul is not killed when the physical body is killed.(Gita Ch.2. verse 20.)
Just as a man replaces worn out clothes and acquires new garments or clothes, in the same way the embodied Self separates from the worn out body and enters into another body which is new. (Gita Ch.2 verse 22.)
An eternal law taught in the Vedas is: That which has a beginning must have an end; the one who is born must die. Gita, Ch.2, verse 27 explains: It is an absolute certainty that the one who is born must die, and birth for the dead is also an absolute certainty. Therefore, one should not grieve over what is unavoidable or inevitable.
The body is said to have an end (Gita Ch.2 verse 18.)

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 07:24 PM

Gita for Children – 3
Posted on December 13, 2008 by saadhika
Continued from Gita for Children - 2

The body is subject to constant change. There is not even a fraction of a second when the body is not undergoing change. We can notice, after a few days that our finger nails have grown, and that our hair have grown. The skin is entirely replaced in a month. The lining of the stomach renews itself in a week. Scientists have concluded that all the atoms in the body are replaced within a period of about five years.
The Rishis were seers with highly purified minds who could fine-tune their minds to establish contacts with the cosmic or divine all pervading Consciousness and receive intuitive knowledge. The Rishis had realised since the ancient times that not only the human body was subject to constant change but everything in nature was subject to change. This included animals, birds, insects, plants and trees, rivers, mountains, the earth, the sun and the moon, the planets and the stars; in fact everything that is external to us.
The Rishis also observed that everything that may be described as internal (mind, intellect etc.) was also subject to constant change. The different states of the mind will make us experience happiness that can change into unhappiness, peaceful mind can become restless mind, timidity can change into valour, fear can change into fearlessness, hatred can turn into love.
The Rishis found that the Soul or the Self was not subject to any changes.
To get to know the Soul is our first goal in life. Since I AM THE SOUL, do I not know the Soul? The answer is a definite NO! The scriptures and the Rishis have said so. The reason given is that a veil of ignorance keeps us in the dark from knowing our Self. When we remove this veil or layers of ignorance, then the Self is realised. This is called SELF REALISATION. When we remove a thick layer of dust from the surface of a mirror, then our reflections can be seen in the mirror.
If I feel hungry then I must eat food to overcome the hunger. If I feel hungry in my stomach, it will not help if I ask another person to eat the food to eliminate my hunger. Self realisation is to be experienced by the individual.
The second goal after self realisation is described as SALVATION or LIBERATION. The merging of the indwelling Soul with the all pervading Super Soul (Supreme Reality or God Consciousness). The indwelling soul is liberated from the rounds of births and deaths. Then it is said to have achieved Liberation..
When we buy a new gadget, a new motor car or a television set, an instructions manual comes with, telling how to make the best use of the gadget or the equipment. Similarly, there is an instructions manual that tells how to make the best use of the body-mind-intellect (B-M-I) equipments.
Young girl: Mommy, how nice! I would really like to get to know how to make the best use of the B-M-I equipments. Please tell me where I can find this manual?

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 07:25 PM

Gita for Children – 4
Posted on December 13, 2008 by saadhika
Continued from Gita for Children - 3

Mommy: Well, for the purpose of our understanding, what we call the B-M-I manual is the Bhagavad Gita. We usually refer to it as the Gita.
The Gita has eighteen chapters and the subject matter or the topics are divided into three sections of six chapters each. Actually, the three sections of the Gita somewhat overlap the topics.
The first six chapters
The first six chapters of the Bhagavad Gita predominantly relate to the path of action or karma yoga also known as the yoga of action. (The relationship between the body and the soul is explained in the second chapter).
The middle six chapters
The middle six chapters (7th to 12th) explain the paths of meditation (Dhyana Yoga) and devotion (Bhakti Yoga). The sixth chapter already begins to deal with the mind through the topic entitled as Dhyana Yoga or the Yoga of Meditation. Here, the mind is the equipment that is involved. For the purpose of our understanding, it will help to remember that the mind has two fold tendencies. 1. The mind can be full of emotions and can lead a person to the path of devotion or bhakti. One can sing the praises of the Lord and cultivate the very fine emotions of pure love (eg., Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Mirabai). 2. The second tendency of the mind is its ability to lead a person into meditation. The Yoga of meditation is also known as Raja Yoga.The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali Maharaj are the best guide since the ancient times, for the practice of Raja Yoga.
The last six chapters
The last six chapters (13th to 18th) relate to the path of Knowledge or Jnana Yoga. This relates to the intellect portion of B-M-I.
Thus we are able to emphasise four major Yogas of the Bhagavad Gita.
Karma Yoga (Yoga of Action).
Dhyana Yoga (Yoga of Meditation).
Bhakti Yoga (Yoga of Devotion).
Jnana Yoga (Yoga of Knowledge).

kannan infratech

September 4th, 2012, 07:31 PM

murlee

September 4th, 2012, 07:40 PM

+1

Fully concur with him..

satchitananda

September 4th, 2012, 08:07 PM

My son says that he likes what I say.

But he says that he does not have the patience to read a long sentence.

He does not mind grammar mistakes too but prefers shorter sentences. (Mani Ratnam style?)

A difficult word for which one has to refer to a dictionary puts him off.

He says that one liners / punches carry the message easily.

Perarasu or Vadivelu kitta poi training edukkanum.

I have pondered on this topic long enough to atleast put 2 and 2 in my head. Most unfortunate is talking spirituality to unqualified seekers. Thats one dimension. Another angle is certain messages need lofty language to communicate it as close to their experience. Glancing Savitri, magnum opus of Aurobindo, was scary as every word had to be referred to the dictionary. Even Vivekananda or Krishnanada have very advanced english in their talks.

It is one thing to seek easy commentary, but sprituality is not understood at mere intellectual level. For the intellect is definitely not capable of explaining Soul level stuff. Thats why one has to walk the path to fully realize.

For instance, at the end of Mahabharata War, Arjuna requests Krishna to recap Gita. He mentions that all he got with the first exposure was just fight for dharma. So he fought. Now Krishna didnt have the same situation to expound. In fact, his brief insight is called "Anu Gita", more like abbreviated version (Konar Urai madhiri). Hanuman was sitting as a flag on Arjuna's chariot. Krishna asks him to expound as he was the only other person to have listened to the entire conversation. Thus was born Hanuman Gita.

In spite of these two works, which focusses on being brief, it lacks the depth of coverage or insight.

Reminds me of a King's strange demand to listen to Ramayana and Mahabharata within a minute, without distortion. All poets and pundits threw up their hands, not wanting to get their heads cut for distorting the great epics. In comes a witty character, who explains it as "மண்ணால் கெட்டது பாரதம், பெண்ணால் கெட்டது ராமாயணம்".

Not to say he won the prize, but does anyone get the same experience as reading the entire epic. How about studying it , instead of reading...??

On the other hand, if there is not sufficient ladder approach, a partially interested student may never take an interest and will lead to Fox and the Sour Grapes syndrome.

Ultimately, it lies in the genuine seeker's hands. If they make an effort, more information comes seeking to them.

kannan infratech

September 5th, 2012, 12:56 PM

Sachi,

There are two ways of reaching the high concepts to others.

The intellectual way is what we have been following for centuries. But this may not have the most desired level with the GenY.

The other way is to make them interested into our ancient texts and concepts. Then those who are interested may go deeper.

But if we are so strict in the entry level, they may lose interest without even trying.

Take for eg SSC Forumers. Many of the Gen Y here came to know about these from our postings. But there are Lakhs & Lakhs who do not access SSC but access FB or similar.

We can reach them too if we explain the concepts in a manner which is easily understood by them.

Since we move with students, we are able to understand the difficulties better than others. Their attention span time has reduced greatly in comparison with our times. The message has to be conveyed within that short span to make them tied / glued to the topics.

Inward Introspection can happen later and you can not expect them to do it before they reach their 30s / 40s.

satchitananda

September 5th, 2012, 04:15 PM

Very valid insights. Matches my shocking experiences. I was under the hallucination that most folks would think alike, till I met some GenY and bordering Gen Y cases. Although many lack the maturity or spiritual insight, they kind of over compensate with strong emotions, most of the times, lopsided. I had to learn this by interacting with two folks who were close to my heart, but because I thought they can be mature, which they didnt want, I strained the relationship (That was my growing pain) by using words which were true, but not pallatable. I regret it.

I have understood that it is better to have the relationship and make them feel great over being correct.

You are very true about identifying the correct spoon to feed (I guess you are hinting, start with a dropper ;) )

Irrespective of what you feed, the key is to have a pulse on the audience. On the corollary, I find that inner hunger for this kind of knowledge is still the bigger key that takes us deeper on this journey.

kannan infratech

September 5th, 2012, 05:47 PM

Sachi,

The easiest way to find the correct key is to relate incidents that happen in their lives, friends' lives, relatives' lives etc. Then it strikes a chord and they pay attention.

For eg: I used the death of my wife's grandma to explain to my son about Karma & rebirth.

He remembered and recollected those conversations when we saw Naan E film together.
Power of films and stories are really great.

kannan infratech

September 6th, 2012, 01:53 PM

10 Steps to Master Telepathy--Mind to Mind Communication

By Abhishek Agarwal

http://www.trans4mind.com/counterpoint/index-esoteric/agarwal.shtml

The word "Telepathy" has been derived from the words "tele" meaning "distance" and "pathy" meaning "feeling." So Telepathy actually means getting feelings through a distance. To elaborate, Telepathy is the communication between two minds, separated over a distance, without the use of the five known senses.

At some point or the other, we all have experienced Telepathy. Maybe you were thinking of someone you haven't talked to in months and you suddenly get a call from them. Or when two people are together, they might say the same thing at the same time. These are spontaneous mind-to-mind communications that tend to occur frequently between closely related individuals.

In this article we will go through the steps required to practice voluntary Telepathy. Here are the steps:

Sender And Receiver
We will need two people. One will be the Sender, who will attempt to transmit thoughts; the other will be the Receiver, who will attempt to receive the thoughts transmitted by the Sender. Prior to the experiment, decide clearly if you are going to be the Sender or the Receiver. If you don't, you both might end up being Receivers or Senders! Avoid that confusion. For this article, we will assume that you are the Sender.

Belief

First of all, it is very important that the Sender and the Receiver both believe that Telepathy is possible. Even if the belief is not 100%, an open-minded attitude is a must. In fact, it is best if the participants not only believe in Telepathy, but also actually deeply desire it to occur. If you are a skeptic, and if the doors of your mind are closed, you will get very poor results.
Physical Relaxation

Telepathy is most effective when the Sender and the Receiver are both totally relaxed physically. Also, being in positive health makes you concentrate better. Try not to practice when you are unwell. Relax yourself using any relaxation method you find best. You can either breathe deeply a couple of times, or use the progressive relaxation method.
Mental Relaxation

Clear your mind of unwanted thoughts. Make your mind tranquil. Let thoughts come and go, but don't get attached to them. Focus on your purpose. Since you are the Sender, your focus will be to send your thoughts across. Your partner, the Receiver should focus his mind to be receptive to your thoughts.

Make sure that both of you do not have any distractions around. A disturbed environment will be detrimental to your progress. A calm and quiet environment will give maximum results

Visualization

Before beginning the transmission, it is important that the previous steps are well followed. They will set up the foundation for your success. With your eyes shut, visualize a very clear picture of the Receiver. Imagine that he is a few feet away from you. Visualize him in full color. Feel that he is actually there. If you want, you can even look at a colored picture of him before the experiment. This will help you visualize him properly.

Now imagine a silver tube connecting your mind and his mind. This tube is the channel through which your thoughts would be communicated to him. Visualize this tube to be full of energy. Know in your heart that this tube is very effective and will do the job well.

Please note that visualizing the tube is not a must. It is just a very effective aid to help you focus and gives your thoughts a well-defined direction. Instead of this tube, you can even visualize that you are talking to your friend over the telephone.

Transmission

Now imagine that your thoughts are being transmitted through the tube - from your mind to his mind. If you are thinking of transmitting a mental picture of an apple, visualize a bright, red, juicy apple traveling across our tube. Make the picture as vivid as possible. Charge the apple with emotion. Believe that Telepathy is real. Desire that your thoughts reach your friend. Imagine the feeling you will have when you succeed. This is very crucial. Emotions are a very powerful trigger and give excellent results. Very often, Telepathy experiments fail because the thoughts lack emotional charge. Make sure you do not strain yourself to send the thought. You have to be relaxed and composed.

When to stop

While you are sending your thoughts, there will be a moment when you will have a strong feeling that the thought has been transmitted. This is an unmistakable feeling that cannot be faked. Whenever you get such a feeling, the job is done. This might take a few seconds to several minutes. If even after 15 minutes, you do not get this feeling, you can abandon the experiment and try at a later date. Trying further will not help much because your mind would be exhausted.

The Receiver

Throughout the experiment, the Receiver should keep his mind blank and should try to receive the thoughts being sent by you. He should avoid trying too hard. Forcing himself to sense what you are thinking will sabotage your attempts. His mind will be most receptive when he is relaxed and at ease. He will get several impressions coming to his mind. He should keep a pen and paper next to him, and note down whatever thoughts come to his mind. He will probably feel that he is making things up. But that's ok. This is how Telepathy works.
Compare results

Once you are through with your experiments, compare your results. Check all the impressions that the Receiver has written down. Does it contain the thought that you tried to transmit? The more you practice, the more accurate results you will get.

Repeat the experiment

You should then repeat the experiment - either immediately or at a later date. If you have got some success, your confidence would be quite high and you would want to repeat it immediately. But if there was no success, do not get discouraged and try the next day. Regular practice sessions are a must, because only consistency will make you better. You should also alternate between being the Receiver and the Sender. This will tell you what you are better at - Receiving or Sending.

Keep it short

Keep your experiments short, maybe 15 minutes or less. This will prevent boredom and fatigue. Your Telepathic ability is at its peak when you feel most energized.

Have Patience

One of the most important conditions of experimental telepathic work is patience. Don't be discouraged if you do not find much success initially. Any psychic experiment, including Telepathy, takes some practice before you see results. Once you practice for a few days, you will start getting more successes.

Stay away from skeptics

Skeptics have got one purpose in life: to sidetrack believers. Stay away from such people because they will put doubt in your mind and will dampen your spirits. Your results prove to you that Telepathy works. Skeptics will not help you much. Sharing your results with them will only discourage and hinder your accomplishments. Only try to share your experiences with like-minded people, people who are positive and encouraging.

Conclusion

Exploring your own Telepathic abilities is an incredible journey. Although it will be fun and exciting, developing a strong foundation will take time and patience. Never expect too much success in the beginning. But the good news is that Telepathy can be learned and cultivated very easily. With regular practice you will become a Telepathy adept! You will always be correct in sending and receiving messages, with astounding clarity and accuracy.

Copyright Abhishek Agarwal. To know more about Telepathy, visit Abhishek's Paranormal Den. You can also download his exhaustive free 167 page ebook on Astral Projection.

http://www.astralprojectnow.com/

kannan infratech

September 6th, 2012, 02:07 PM

Difficult to believe this. But..........

Frederic Myers - Proof of Life After Death

http://www.trans4mind.com/spiritual/myers1.html

Excerpts about the life of Frederick Myers from the book by Ian Currie
"You Cannot Die: The Incredible Findings of a Century of Research on Death"
Edited by Peter Shepherd

kannan infratech

September 6th, 2012, 02:10 PM

Astral Travel

http://www.astralprojectnow.com/astralfinal.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7seCIJJHnXE&feature=player_embedded

kannan infratech

September 6th, 2012, 02:20 PM

Astral Travel

http://www.astralprojectnow.com/astralfinal.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=7seCIJJHnXE&feature=player_embedded

Part 1
http://www.astralprojectnow.com/dwnld/FAQ1.mp4

Part 2
http://www.astralprojectnow.com/dwnld/FAQ2.mp4

Part 3
http://www.astralprojectnow.com/dwnld/FAQ3.mp4

Part 4
http://www.astralprojectnow.com/dwnld/FAQ4.mp4

Part 5
http://www.astralprojectnow.com/dwnld/FAQ5.mp4

ASTRAL PROJECTION - The Naked Truth:
https://apn-dwnldfree.s3.amazonaws.com/NakedTruth.pdf

Licit Mortal

September 11th, 2012, 06:54 AM

@ Yoni:

Murlee - Neenga innum neraya Infra thavira matra vishayangalyum padiyunga :)

Yoni Pooja is the ultimate and namma ancestors ellarum adhila multiple PhD.
(Please do not confuse the word Pooja with the ritualistic kind - here it means how to handle Yoni)

Sakthi Worship is the symbolic of the same. Ilai maraivu Kayaga......

No other religion in the world so openly worship Lingam & Yoni as Hindus do since they are the Fountainhead for Human race.

As Indian Sun said earlier - Hinduism is the Open Source Religion.

@ Samiyars:

Hindu will have 4 stages in his life.
Brahmacharyam - Period till he gets married
Grahastham - Period of Productive phase of Married Life with Kids etc.
Vaanaprastham - Period of Family Life but without seeking Sex, money, career etc.
Sanyasam - Period when one renounces all worldly things and think only about the Knowledge & God.

For an ordinary Hindu, one has to go through the first 3 phases before becoming Samiyar.

In extreme cases, even after Sanyasam, sex is allowed. But then there will be a (higher level) purpose than mere pleasure like getting a son / daughter. The control of Sukram ( semen) - ie making it more potent and releasing the same at the right time - itself is a huge science mastered by these Sanyasis.

Once Adhi Sankaracharya was asked this question during a debate on Grahastham & Mukthi. " How can you - as a Sanyasi without any sexual experience - argue on Grahastham & MUkthi ?". He had to - Koodu Vittu Koodu panju - get into the body of a Grahasthan to know about sex. He themn came back and could answer all questions.

How is it possible to get into some other's body ?

I hope many of you has seen the Movie Inception. There it was about implanting an idea into others' minds.

Very similar to that. The soul gets replaced in the body for a short period.

This happened during the famous debate between Mandanamishra and Aadisankara or rather between Mimaamsa and Advaita. Adi Sankara defeated Mandanamishra on all philosophical topics and Mandanamishra had to relinquish all mimaamsa teachings and convert into advait. At that time, the wife of Mandanamishra, Ubayabharathi who was appointed as the judge of the debate instigated Mandanamishra to ask Adi Sankara about the nuances of family life, thinking that he would not be able to answer, since he is a sanyasi. Adi Sankara accepted that he is a sanyasi and took some time to return and give answers to these questions, which is when he used one of the 10 secondary siddhi powers known as the Para Kaaya Pravesanam through which he entered his soul into the body of a king and understood the nuances of family life. He then returned to Mandanamishra and defeated him in the debate, making Mandana mishra the first seer of Sringeri Mutt.

Licit Mortal

September 11th, 2012, 07:01 AM

I am not sure if you guys would be interested in some scholarly explanations of ancient tamil texts like Periya Puranam, Vedam and Vignanam, Aachaaram and Aarogyam here.Nevertheless, I would like to post then here. People who do not like or consider themselves secular, please ignore my posts. But I promise you, if you could relinquish your secular close mindedness and listen to it with open mind, you would find them very interesting. I am glad I listened to my father's insistence and learned Tamil, inspite of being born and brought up in Bangalore else I would not have been able to understand these valuable discourses.

Licit Mortal

September 11th, 2012, 07:08 AM

Vedamum, Vignaanamum Meignaanamum. (Vedas, Truth and Science)

by Suki Sivam

Listen here! (http://www.bhaktipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGDSC1007%27,%27SNGDSC1008%27,%27SNGDSC1009%27,%27SNGDSC1010%27)

Licit Mortal

September 11th, 2012, 07:15 AM

Kannapa Naayanaar from Periya Puraanam

Listen here (http://www.bhaktipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGDSC0765%27,%27SNGDSC0766%27,%27SNGDSC0767%27,%27SNGDSC0768%27)!

Licit Mortal

September 11th, 2012, 07:27 AM

Budhharin Vaazhvum Vaakum

Qs3UlBv7snE

Ptf-_auadL4

Licit Mortal

September 11th, 2012, 07:49 AM

Aachaaramum Aarogyamum

I suggest you to watch these videos very carefully(May be watch it repeatedly till you understand everything!). These are very helpful videos and I do not want to give any prologue to these, but I suggest you take it very seriously and watch them completely. After you watch, try to follow these instructions, share the information with as many people as possible and make sure everyone in your family tries to follow these so that we can prevent all the diseases in our body, using the wisdom the ancient wisdom of our ancestors.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1472F851D55A8DD&feature=plcp) is the playlist!

The order of videos in this play list are jumbled and therefore watch in the following way!

video 3
video 4
video 10
video 6
video 5
video 7
video 9
video 11
video 8
video 2
video 1

Please watch these videos when you have time, follow them and try to share it with as many people as possible.

kannan infratech

September 12th, 2012, 04:07 PM

Treasure Trove of Rare Information

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=7wqH__QPbBUC&pg=PA285&lpg=PA285&dq=Crimes+Against+India+and+the+Need+to+Protect+Ancient+Vedic+Tradition&source=bl&ots=DTERFS3QMP&sig=SGS7H9lWXV8jqFK0NieRRFgLtgA&hl=en#v=onepage&q=Crimes%

http://vedicarcheologicaldiscoveries.wordpress.com/the-books-by-stephen-knapp/

kannan infratech

September 12th, 2012, 04:15 PM

Part 1 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmeQB2XkyqA&feature=relmfu

Part 2 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IZg3NPbmQM&feature=relmfu

kannan infratech

September 15th, 2012, 04:55 PM

http://www.mudravigyan.com/Mudra.html

Rajni Baba Mudra pathi padiyunga. :)

kannan infratech

September 15th, 2012, 04:58 PM

The Ancient Indian Wisdom has no limits, it seems.

Man only has that supreme power in his soul, that when scientifically endowed with Yoga, can help him achieve all the three sublime powers - the physical, mental and spiritual. All that is needed is the guidance and the rules of Dhyana (meditation) and Practice (sadhana)

There are various supreme sciences for the investigations on and into the human mind and body. Some of these are:

Mudra Vigyan The science of finger postures
Kayakalpa Vigyan The science of rejuvenation
Brahma Vidya Divine knowledge - theosophy
Pranvinimaya Vidya The science of curing the sick and the defective
Surya Vigyan The science of solar energy
Punarjanma Vigyan The science of reincarnation
Deerghayu Vidya The science of longevity
Swar Vigyan The science of sounds
Rasayan Vigyan The science of Alchemy
Mantra Vigyan The science of spiritual incantation
Samyad Preshan Vidya The science of Telepathy etc.

The principles of the Indian Medical Science (Ayurveda) which lays down three factors primarily responsible for the body's ills, Vata (wind), Pitta (bile) and Kapha (Phlegm).
10 types of Vayus (Winds) circulate through the nerves of the human body and can be controlled

MUKHYA VAYUS (Main Winds)
Pran Vayu Mouth; central nose; central nabhi; heart
Apan Vayu Rectum; regenerative organs; knees; loins Stomach; waist; navel and calves
Vyan Vayu Eyes; ears; shoulders; ankles; throat
Udan Vayu Hands and feet
Saman Vayu assists other Vayus
UPVAYUS (Secondary winds)
Nag Vayu, Kurm Vayu, Kriker Vayu, Krikal or Devadutta Vayu, Dhananjaya Vayu and these winds circulate in places like the skin and bones etc.

The rules to keep these Vayus in good order are called PANCHMUKHI PRANOPASANA or the five faceted worship of the life forces

kannan infratech

September 15th, 2012, 05:05 PM

Naadis in our body:

I am curious if the Allopathy science accepts this.

http://www.sanatansociety.org/beeld/pix/swar_yoga_head_nadis.jpg

http://www.sanatansociety.org/yoga_and_meditation/nadis_kundalini_yoga.htm

Swara Yoga

Ref: "Shiva Swarodaya" (Original Sanskrit Text) "Swarayoga" - Swami Muktibodhananda under the direct guidance of Swami Satyananda
Bihar School of Yoga publication - http://www.yogavision .net

What is Swara Yoga?

Swara is Sanskrit word, meaning sound or note. It is also a continuous flow of air through one nostril. Yoga means union, so Swara yoga is a science which is realization of cosmic consciousness through control and manipulation of breath.

Swara Yoga is science which is a complete study, observations, control and manipulation of breath or Swara. Pranayama is only related to control of breath in various ways. In swara yoga, you will find association of breath in relation to activities of sun, moon, various seasons, physical and mental conditions of individuals etc. So Swara Yoga is more comprehensive in theory and practices related to breath.
Applications of Swara Yoga as per Sanskrti Text "Shiva Swarodaya" -

Swara yoga is useful while initiating any action starting from waking up in the morning, having bath, eating, involving in different types of works, mental activities, physical activities etc. One can easily make out that Swara Yoga touches all parts of human life.

Few applications of Swara Yoga

Fighting wars, Overcome enemy, winning friends
Gaining wealth, prosperity, popularity
Winning favor of king
Knowledge of past, present & future
Achieving sound mental, physical & spiritual health

Swara in Daily Life

1. Journey, eating, exercising, working, excreting, sleeping
2. For Yoga & Meditation

3 Types of Swara

There are 3 main swara, Ida Nadi or Left Swara (Nadi is flow of pranic energy in body), Pingala Nadi or Right Swara and Sushumna or third Swara.

Ida / Lunar / Left Swara - The breath through left nostril
Ida Nadi located on the Left side of spinal Cord
It represents Moon / female Shakti (Energy) principle
Left Swara is associated with Mental Activities, Parasympathetic nervous system (relaxation)
Connection to right hemisphere of brain
Left Swara is considered to be Auspicious, smooth & virtuous
Bright fortnight (15 days starting from next day of no moon to full moon day)
Fruitful results when Left Swara is active on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Monday.
Zodiac signs during Lunar flow - taurus, cancer, virgo, scorpio, capricorn, pisces

Pingala / Solar or Right Swara - The breath through right nostril
Pingala Nadi located on the right side of spinal Cord
It represents Sun / Male Shiva(consciousness) principle
Right Swara is associated with Pranic activities (Physical activities), Sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight response / stress response)
Connection to left hemisphere of brain
Right Swara is considered as Rough, non virtuous
Dominance during dark fortnight (15 days from the next day of full moon to no moon)
Right Swara gives fruitful results Sunday, Saturday, Tuesday
Zodiac signs during Solar flow - aries, aquarius, libra, gemini, sagittarius

Acts to be performed when Left Swara is Active

All auspicious acts
Stable, permanent actions
Purchasing jewelry, clothes, journey etc
Construction of house
Offices, temple etc.
Marriages, religious rights, peaceful work
Treating incurable diseases

Acts to be performed when Right Swara is Active

Extreme tantra techniques
Meanest & worst actions
Drinking wine, destroying enemies
Sensual pleasures
Work requiring extreme dynamism
Physical work
Solving mathematics
Eating, gratifying senses, captivating women

Third Swara "Sushumna"

Located Center of the spinal cord
It represents "Shiva" (pure consciousness) in the state of "So-Ham"
Sushumna is said to be active when Left & right swara flows together
No worldly action recommended, work gives no result
It indicates non attachment to the mundane things
While third Swara is active Meditation recommended

Rhythms of Swara

Each Swara (Left and Right) Alternates in 60 Min - One Swara is active for about 1 to 1.5 hours depends on individual, and after that 2nd Swara starts flowing, this cycle continues during day and night.
These Swara Activities are related to Moon phases
Sunrise timing is crucial - Generally for healthy people the Swara should change at the time of sunrise and sunset.
Lunar / left Swara
Active during 1st 3 days of Bright fortnight at sunrise
Right / solar Swara
Active during 1st 3 days of dark fortnight at sunrise

Readjusting the Swara

Close active nostril with finger or cotton wool
Inhale through active nostril & exhale through inactive
Apply pressure to the armpit of the active nostril
Lie down on the same side of the active nostril
Cold bath or hot water changes the Swara
Food consumed changes Swara

1. Chilli, ginger - Solar / right Swara
2. Yogurt, bananas - left / lunar Swara

Swara Indication - Physical & Mental activities

Common Cold - common cold indicates dominating Left Swara, which indicates cold. One can change this dominating left swara to right swara and cure the common cold or other diseases.

Acidity - if Right swara dominates, it indicates the person will suffer from either acidity or fever. Right Swara is Hot in nature.

Swara Yoga is still unexplored area and lot of scientific research needs to be carried out before all facts and exact relation of Swara and physical and mental activities is known.

kannan infratech

September 15th, 2012, 05:15 PM

^^^^

This particular explanation cleared many of my doubts on how our ancestors set the good time, bad time , how to eat and when to eat, how to sleep etc.

Have you guys noticed that we all breath only through one side of the nose at a time ?

The side automatically changes after a regular interval to the other side.

Amazing.

When I am under tremendous stress, I take deep breaths through one nostril first and then through another nostril. This gives instant relief. After deep observation, I noticed that breathing through Right nostrils give more relief than the left.

(Namma SSC Rathakalari agumbodhu???? :lol:)

Similarly, if I do not get sleep, I take a hot water bath and lie down on the side of active nostril and take deep breaths. If I have my Bronchitis attack /cold / cough, I take Milk with turmeric & pepper to soothe the throat and windpipe. Immediately I get sleep.

kannan infratech

September 25th, 2012, 07:46 AM

Vedics roots of modern mathematics. (part -1)

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2012/09/vedics-roots-of-modern-mathematics-part.html

Vedics roots of modern mathematics. (part -2)

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2012/09/vedics-roots-of-modern-mathematics-part_5.html

kannan infratech

September 25th, 2012, 07:50 AM

Scientific support for astrology.

A recent study has revealed that attitudes and personality traits of a person are directly related to the season or the month of birth. It also concludes that the planets at the time of birth do have an impact on a person. This is a proof for astrology as a science. The scientists have observed only the seasons, but there are other determinants of one's attitudes and traits. They are the year, ayana, the rithus (two month period), the month, the week, the star of the day, the thithi, yoga and karaNa. The time of the day and the moon's position in the lunar cycle also have a bearing on the attitude of a person. Accordingly, no birth is an accident. The gene selection is a pre-determined one aided by the planets and such other astrological factors mentioned above. I would even say that there is absolutely no freewill for us. That explanation is very huge and I hope to write it someday.

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From

http://www.naturalnews.com/030698_astrology_scientific_basis.html#ixzz18dnE0xy

Principle of astrology proven to be scientific: planetary position imprints biological clocks of mammals

(NaturalNews) Mention the word "astrology" and skeptics go into an epileptic fit. The idea that someone's personality could be imprinted at birth according to the position of the sun, moon and planets has long been derided as "quackery" by the so-called "scientific" community which resists any notion based on holistic connections between individuals and the cosmos.

According to the conventional view, your genes and your parenting determine your personality, and the position of planet Earth at the time of your birth has nothing to do with it.

Then again, conventional scientists don't believe the position of the moon has anything to do with life on Earth, either. They dismiss the wisdom that farmers have known for ages -- that planting seeds or transplanting living plants in harmony with the moon cycles results in higher crop yields. Even the seeds inside humans are strongly influenced by the moon, as menstruation cycles and moon cycles are closely synchronized (28 days, roughly).

Researchers demonstrate scientific principle of astrology

Skeptics must be further bewildered by the new research published in Nature Neuroscience and conducted at Vanderbilt University which unintentionally provides scientific support for the fundamental principle of astrology -- namely, that the position of the planets at your time of birth influences your personality.

In this study, not only did the birth month impact personality; it also resulted in measurable functional changes in the brain.

This study, conducted on mice, showed that mice born in the winter showed a "consistent slowing" of their daytime activity. They were also more susceptible to symptoms that we might call "Seasonal Affective Disorder."

The study was carried out by Professor of Biological Sciences Douglas McMahon, graduate student Chris Ciarleglio, post-doctoral fellow Karen Gamble and two additional undergraduate students, none of whom believe in astrology, apparently. They do, of course, believe in science, which is why all their study findings have been draped in the language of science even though the findings are essentially supporting principles of astrology.

"What is particularly striking about our results is the fact that the imprinting affects both the animal's behavior and the cycling of the neurons in the master biological clock in their brains," said Ciarleglio. This is one of the core principles of astrology: That the position of the planets at the time of your birth (which might be called the "season" of your birth) can actually result in changes in your brain physiology which impact lifelong behavior.

Once again, such an idea sounds preposterous to the scientifically trained, unless of course they discover it for themselves, at which point it's all suddenly very "scientific." Instead of calling it "astrology," they're now referring to it as "seasonal biology."

kannan infratech

September 25th, 2012, 07:50 AM

kannan infratech

September 29th, 2012, 03:52 PM

The Relativity of Wrong

by Isaac Asimov

I received a letter from a reader the other day. It was handwritten in crabbed penmanship so that it was very difficult to read. Nevertheless, I tried to make it out just in case it might prove to be important.
In the first sentence, he told me he was majoring in English Literature, but felt he needed to teach me science. (I sighed a bit, for I knew very few English Lit majors who are equipped to teach me science, but I am very aware of the vast state of my ignorance and I am prepared to learn as much as I can from anyone, however low on the social scale, so I read on.)
It seemed that in one of my innumerable essays, here and elsewhere, I had expressed a certain gladness at living in a century in which we finally got the basis of the Universe straight.
I didn't go into detail in the matter, but what I meant was that we now know the basic rules governing the Universe, together with the gravitational interrelationships of its gross components, as shown in the theory of relativity worked out between 1905 and 1916. We also know the basic rules governing the subatomic particles and their interrelationships, since these are very neatly described by the quantum theory worked out between 1900 and 1930. What's more, we have found that the galaxies and clusters of galaxies are the basic units of the physical Universe, as discovered between 1920 and 1930.
These are all twentieth-century discoveries, you see.
The young specialist in English Lit, having quoted me, went on to lecture me severely on the fact that in every century people have thought they understood the Universe at last, and in every century they were proven to be wrong. It follows that the one thing we can say about out modern "knowledge" is that it is wrong.
The young man then quoted with approval what Socrates had said on learning that the Delphic oracle had proclaimed him the wisest man in Greece. "If I am the wisest man," said Socrates, "it is because I alone know that I know nothing." The implication was that I was very foolish because I knew a great deal.
Alas, none of this was new to me. (There is very little that is new to me; I wish my corresponders would realize this.) This particular thesis was addressed to me a quarter of a century ago by John Campbell, who specialized in irritating me. He also told me that all theories are proven wrong in time.
My answer to him was, "John, when people thought the Earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."
The basic trouble, you see, is that people think that "right" and "wrong" are absolute; that everything that isn't perfectly and completely right is totally and equally wrong.
However, I don't think that's so. It seems to me that right and wrong are fuzzy concepts, and I will devote this essay to an explanation of why I think so.
First, let me dispose of Socrates because I am sick and tired of this pretense that knowing you know nothing is a mark of wisdom.
No one knows nothing. In a matter of days, babies learn to recognize their mothers.
Socrates would agree, of course, and explain that knowledge of trivia is not what he means. He means that in the great abstractions over which human beings debate, one should start without preconceived, unexamined notions, and that he alone knew this. (What an enormously arrogant claim!)
In his discussions of such matters as "What is justice?" or "What is virtue?" he took the attitude that he knew nothing and had to be instructed by others. (This is called "Socratic irony," for Socrates knew very well that he knew a great deal more than the poor souls he was picking on.) By pretending ignorance, Socrates lured others into propounding their views on such abstractions. Socrates then, by a series of ignorant-sounding questions, forced the others into such a mélange of self-contradictions that they would finally break down and admit they didn't know what they were talking about.
It is the mark of the marvelous toleration of the Athenians that they let this continue for decades and that it wasn't till Socrates turned seventy that they broke down and forced him to drink poison.
Now where do we get the notion that "right" and "wrong" are absolutes? It seems to me that this arises in the early grades, when children who know very little are taught by teachers who know very little more.
Young children learn spelling and arithmetic, for instance, and here we tumble into apparent absolutes.
How do you spell "sugar?" Answer: s-u-g-a-r. That is right. Anything else is wrong.
How much is 2 + 2? The answer is 4. That is right. Anything else is wrong.
Having exact answers, and having absolute rights and wrongs, minimizes the necessity of thinking, and that pleases both students and teachers. For that reason, students and teachers alike prefer short-answer tests to essay tests; multiple-choice over blank short-answer tests; and true-false tests over multiple-choice.
But short-answer tests are, to my way of thinking, useless as a measure of the student's understanding of a subject. They are merely a test of the efficiency of his ability to memorize.
You can see what I mean as soon as you admit that right and wrong are relative.
How do you spell "sugar?" Suppose Alice spells it p-q-z-z-f and Genevieve spells it s-h-u-g-e-r. Both are wrong, but is there any doubt that Alice is wronger than Genevieve? For that matter, I think it is possible to argue that Genevieve's spelling is superior to the "right" one.
Or suppose you spell "sugar": s-u-c-r-o-s-e, or C12H22O11. Strictly speaking, you are wrong each time, but you're displaying a certain knowledge of the subject beyond conventional spelling.
Suppose then the test question was: how many different ways can you spell "sugar?" Justify each.
Naturally, the student would have to do a lot of thinking and, in the end, exhibit how much or how little he knows. The teacher would also have to do a lot of thinking in the attempt to evaluate how much or how little the student knows. Both, I imagine, would be outraged.
Again, how much is 2 + 2? Suppose Joseph says: 2 + 2 = purple, while Maxwell says: 2 + 2 = 17. Both are wrong but isn't it fair to say that Joseph is wronger than Maxwell?
Suppose you said: 2 + 2 = an integer. You'd be right, wouldn't you? Or suppose you said: 2 + 2 = an even integer. You'd be righter. Or suppose you said: 2 + 2 = 3.999. Wouldn't you be nearly right?
If the teacher wants 4 for an answer and won't distinguish between the various wrongs, doesn't that set an unnecessary limit to understanding?
Suppose the question is, how much is 9 + 5?, and you answer 2. Will you not be excoriated and held up to ridicule, and will you not be told that 9 + 5 = 14?
If you were then told that 9 hours had pass since midnight and it was therefore 9 o'clock, and were asked what time it would be in 5 more hours, and you answered 14 o'clock on the grounds that 9 + 5 = 14, would you not be excoriated again, and told that it would be 2 o'clock? Apparently, in that case, 9 + 5 = 2 after all.
Or again suppose, Richard says: 2 + 2 = 11, and before the teacher can send him home with a note to his mother, he adds, "To the base 3, of course." He'd be right.
Here's another example. The teacher asks: "Who is the fortieth President of the United States?" and Barbara says, "There isn't any, teacher."
"Wrong!" says the teacher, "Ronald Reagan is the fortieth President of the United States."
"Not at all," says Barbara, "I have here a list of all the men who have served as President of the United States under the Constitution, from George Washington to Ronald Reagan, and there are only thirty-nine of them, so there is no fortieth President."
"Ah," says the teacher, "but Grover Cleveland served two nonconsecutive terms, one from 1885 to 1889, and the second from 1893 to 1897. He counts as both the twenty-second and twenty-fourth President. That is why Ronald Reagan is the thirty-ninth person to serve as President of the United States, and is, at the same time, the fortieth President of the United States."
Isn't that ridiculous? Why should a person be counted twice if his terms are nonconsecutive, and only once if he served two consecutive terms? Pure convention! Yet Barbara is marked wrong—just as wrong as if she had said that the fortieth President of the United States is Fidel Castro.
Therefore, when my friend the English Literature expert tells me that in every century scientists think they have worked out the Universe and are always wrong, what I want to know is how wrong are they? Are they always wrong to the same degree? Let's take an example.
In the early days of civilization, the general feeling was that the Earth was flat.
This was not because people were stupid, or because they were intent on believing silly things. They felt it was flat on the basis of sound evidence. It was not just a matter of "That's how it looks," because the Earth does not look flat. It looks chaotically bumpy, with hills, valleys, ravines, cliffs, and so on.
Of course, there are plains where, over limited areas, the Earth's surface does look fairly flat. One of those plains is in the Tigris-Euphrates area where the first historical civilization (one with writing) developed, that of the Sumerians.
Perhaps it was the appearance of the plain that may have persuaded the clever Sumerians to accept the generalization that the Earth was flat; that if you somehow evened out all the elevations and depressions, you would be left with flatness. Contributing to the notion may have been the fact that stretches of water (ponds and lakes) looked pretty flat on quiet days.
Another way of looking at it is to ask what is the "curvature" of Earth's surface. Over a considerable length, how much does the surface deviate (on the average) from perfect flatness. The flat-Earth theory would make it seem that the surface doesn't deviate from flatness at all, that its curvature is 0 to the mile.
Nowadays, of course, we are taught that the flat-Earth theory is wrong; that it is all wrong, terribly wrong, absolutely. But it isn't. The curvature of the Earth is nearly 0 per mile, so that although the flat-Earth theory is wrong, it happens to be nearly right. That's why the theory lasted so long.
There were reasons, to be sure, to find the flat-Earth theory unsatisfactory and, about 350 B.C., the Greek philosopher Aristotle summarized them. First, certain stars disappeared beyond the Southern Hemisphere as one traveled north, and beyond the Northern Hemisphere as one traveled south. Second, the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was always the arc of a circle. Third, here on Earth itself, ships disappeared beyond the horizon hull-first in whatever direction they were traveling.
All three observations could not be reasonably explained if the Earth's surface were flat, but could be explained by assuming the Earth to be a sphere.
What's more, Aristotle believed that all solid matter tended to move toward a common center, and if solid matter did this, it would end up as a sphere. A given volume of matter is, on the average, closer to a common center if it is a sphere than if it is any other shape whatever.
About a century after Aristotle, the Greek philosopher Eratosthenes noted that the Sun cast a shadow of different lengths at different latitudes (all the shadows would be the same length if the Earth's surface were flat). From the difference in shadow length, he calculated the size of the earthly sphere and it turned out to be 25,000 miles in circumference.
The curvature of such a sphere is about 0.000126 per mile, a quantity very close to 0 per mile as you can see, and one not easily measured by the techniques at the disposal of the ancients. The tiny difference between 0 and 0.000126 accounts for the fact that it took so long to pass from the flat Earth to the spherical Earth.
Mind you, even a tiny difference, such at that between 0 and 0.000126, can be extremely important. That difference mounts up. The Earth cannot be mapped over large areas with any accuracy at all if the difference isn't taken into account and if the Earth isn't considered a sphere rather than a flat surface. Long ocean voyages can't be undertaken with any reasonable way of locating one's own position in the ocean unless the Earth is considered spherical rather than flat.
Furthermore, the flat Earth presupposes the possibility of an infinite Earth, or of the existence of an "end" to the surface. The spherical Earth, however, postulates an Earth that is both endless and yet finite, and it is the latter postulate that is consistent with all later findings.
So although the flat-Earth theory is only slightly wrong and is a credit to its inventors, all things considered, it is wrong enough to be discarded in favor of the spherical-Earth theory.
And yet is the Earth a sphere?
No, it is not a sphere; not in the strict mathematical sense. A sphere has certain mathematical properties—for instance, all diameters (that is, all straight lines that pass from one point on its surface, through the center, to another point on its surface) have the same length.
That, however, is not true of the Earth. Various diameters of the Earth differ in length.
What gave people the notion the Earth wasn't a true sphere? To begin with, the Sun and the Moon have outlines that are perfect circles within the limits of measurement in the early days of the telescope. This is consistent with the supposition that the Sun and Moon are perfectly spherical in shape.
However, when Jupiter and Saturn were observed by the first telescopic observers, it became quickly apparent that the outlines of those planets were not circles, but distinct ellipses. That meant that Jupiter and Saturn were not true spheres.
Isaac Newton, toward the end of the seventeenth century, showed that a massive body would form a sphere under the pull of gravitational forces (exactly as Aristotle had argued), but only if it were not rotating. If it were rotating, a centrifugal effect would be set up which would lift the body's substance against gravity, and the effect would be greater the closer to the equator you progressed. The effect would also be greater the more rapidly a spherical object rotated and Jupiter and Saturn rotated very rapidly indeed.
The Earth rotated much more slowly than Jupiter or Saturn so the effect should be smaller, but it should still be there. Actual measurements of the curvature of the Earth were carried out in the eighteenth century and Newton was proved correct.
The Earth has an equatorial bulge, in other words. It is flattened at the poles. It is an "oblate spheroid" rather than a sphere. This means that the various diameters of the earth differ in length. The longest diameters are any of those that stretch from one point on the equator to an opposite point on the equator. The "equatorial diameter" is 12,755 kilometers (7,927 miles). The shortest diameter is from the North Pole to the South Pole and this "polar diameter" is 12,711 kilometers (7,900 miles).
The difference between the longest and shortest diameters is 44 kilometers (27 miles), and that means that the "oblateness" of the Earth (its departure from true sphericity) is 44/12,755, or 0.0034. This amounts to 1/3 of 1 percent.
To put it another way, on a flat surface, curvature is 0 per mile everywhere. On Earth's spherical surface, curvature is 0.000126 per mile everywhere (or 8 inches per mile). On Earth's oblate spheroidical surface, the curvature varies from 7.973 inches to the mile to 8.027 inches to the mile.
The correction in going from spherical to oblate spheroidal is much smaller than going from flat to spherical. Therefore, although the notion of the Earth as sphere is wrong, strictly speaking, it is not as wrong as the notion of the Earth as flat.
Even the oblate-spheroidal notion of the Earth is wrong, strictly speaking. In 1958, when the satellite Vanguard 1 was put into orbit about the Earth, it was able to measure the local gravitational pull of the Earth—and therefore its shape—with unprecedented precision. It turned out that the equatorial bulge south of the equator was slightly bulgier than the bulge north of the equator, and that the South Pole sea level was slightly nearer the center of the Earth than the North Pole sea level was.
There seemed no other way of describing this than by saying the Earth was pearshaped and at once many people decided that the Earth was nothing like a sphere but was shaped like a Bartlett pear dangling in space. Actually, the pearlike deviation from oblate-spheroid perfect was a matter of yards rather than miles and the adjustment of curvature was in the millionths of an inch per mile.
In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the Earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after.
What actually happens is that once scientists get hold of a good concept they gradually refine and extend if with a greater and greater subtlety as their instruments of measurement improve. Theories are not so much wrong as incomplete.
This can be pointed out in many other cases than just the shape of the Earth. Even when a new theory seems to represent a revolution, it usually arises out of small refinements. If something more than a small refinement were needed, then the old theory would never have endured.
Copernicus switched from an Earth-centered planetary system to a Sun-centered one. In doing so, he switched from something that was obvious to something that was apparently ridiculous. However, it was a matter of finding better ways of calculating the motion of the planets in the sky and, eventually, the geocentric theory was just left behind. It was precisely because the old theory gave results that were fairly good by the measurement standards of the time that kept it in being so long.
Again, it is because the geological formations of the Earth change so slowly and the living things upon it evolve so slowly that it seemed reasonable at first to suppose that there was no change and that Earth and life always existed as they do today. If that were so, it would make no difference whether Earth and life were billions of years old or thousands. Thousands were easier to grasp.
But when careful observation showed that Earth and life were changing at a rate that was very tiny but not zero, then it became clear that Earth and life had to be very old. Modern geology came into being, and so did the notion of biological evolution.
If the rate of change were more rapid, geology and evolution would have reached their modern state in ancient times. It is only because the difference between the rate of change in a static Universe and the rate of change in an evolutionary one is that between zero and very nearly zero that the creationists can continue propagating their folly.
Again, how about the two great theories of the twentieth century; relativity and quantum mechanics?
Newton's theories of motion and gravitation were very close to right, and they would have been absolutely right if only the speed of light were infinite. However, the speed of light is finite, and that had to be taken into account in Einstein's relativistic equations, which were an extension and refinement of Newton's equations.
You might say that the difference between infinite and finite is itself infinite, so why didn't Newton's equations fall to the ground at once? Let's put it another way, and ask how long it takes light to travel over a distance of a meter.
If light traveled at infinite speed, it would take light 0 seconds to travel a meter. At the speed at which light actually travels, however, it takes it 0.0000000033 seconds. It is that difference between 0 and 0.0000000033 that Einstein corrected for.
Conceptually, the correction was as important as the correction of Earth's curvature from 0 to 8 inches per mile was. Speeding subatomic particles wouldn't behave the way they do without the correction, nor would particle accelerators work the way they do, nor nuclear bombs explode, nor the stars shine. Nevertheless, it was a tiny correction and it is no wonder that Newton, in his time, could not allow for it, since he was limited in his observations to speeds and distances over which the correction was insignificant.
Again, where the prequantum view of physics fell short was that it didn't allow for the "graininess" of the Universe. All forms of energy had been thought to be continuous and to be capable of division into indefinitely smaller and smaller quantities.
This turned out to be not so. Energy comes in quanta, the size of which is dependent upon something called Planck's constant. If Planck's constant were equal to 0 erg-seconds, then energy would be continuous, and there would be no grain to the Universe. Planck's constant, however, is equal to 0.000000000000000000000000066 erg-seconds. That is indeed a tiny deviation from zero, so tiny that ordinary questions of energy in everyday life need not concern themselves with it. When, however, you deal with subatomic particles, the graininess is sufficiently large, in comparison, to make it impossible to deal with them without taking quantum considerations into account.
Since the refinements in theory grow smaller and smaller, even quite ancient theories must have been sufficiently right to allow advances to be made; advances that were not wiped out by subsequent refinements.
The Greeks introduced the notion of latitude and longitude, for instance, and made reasonable maps of the Mediterranean basin even without taking sphericity into account, and we still use latitude and longitude today.
The Sumerians were probably the first to establish the principle that planetary movements in the sky exhibit regularity and can be predicted, and they proceeded to work out ways of doing so even though they assumed the Earth to be the center of the Universe. Their measurements have been enormously refined but the principle remains.
Newton's theory of gravitation, while incomplete over vast distances and enormous speeds, is perfectly suitable for the Solar System. Halley's Comet appears punctually as Newton's theory of gravitation and laws of motion predict. All of rocketry is based on Newton, and Voyager II reached Uranus within a second of the predicted time. None of these things were outlawed by relativity.
In the nineteenth century, before quantum theory was dreamed of, the laws of thermodynamics were established, including the conservation of energy as first law, and the inevitable increase of entropy as the second law. Certain other conservation laws such as those of momentum, angular momentum, and electric charge were also established. So were Maxwell's laws of electromagnetism. All remained firmly entrenched even after quantum theory came in.
Naturally, the theories we now have might be considered wrong in the simplistic sense of my English Lit correspondent, but in a much truer and subtler sense, they need only be considered incomplete.
For instance, quantum theory has produced something called "quantum weirdness" which brings into serious question the very nature of reality and which produces philosophical conundrums that physicists simply can't seem to agree upon. It may be that we have reached a point where the human brain can no longer grasp matters, or it may be that quantum theory is incomplete and that once it is properly extended, all the "weirdness" will disappear.
Again, quantum theory and relativity seem to be independent of each other, so that while quantum theory makes it seem possible that three of the four known interactions can be combined into one mathematical system, gravitation—the realm of relativity—as yet seems intransigent.
If quantum theory and relativity can be combined, a true "unified field theory" may become possible.
If all this is done, however, it would be a still finer refinement that would affect the edges of the known—the nature of the big bang and the creation of the Universe, the properties at the center of black holes, some subtle points about the evolution of galaxies and supernovas, and so on.
Virtually all that we know today, however, would remain untouched and when I say I am glad that I live in a century when the Universe is essentially understood, I think I am justified.

uppili

October 1st, 2012, 08:58 AM

சூரியன் கன்னி ராசியில் புகும்போது (புரட்டாசி மாதம்) எமதர்மராஜன் பிதுர்க்களை பூமிக்கு செல்லும்படி உத்தரவிடுகிறார். அச்சமயம் நமது இறந்து போன பெற்றோர் அவர்களது பெற்றோர்களுடன் கூடி, நம்மைக் கண்டு ஆசிர்வாதம் செய்வதற்காக வருவார்கள். இந்நாள் மிகவும் புண்ணியமான மகாளய அமாவாசை ஆகும். இதற்கு முன்னதாக வரும் பவுர்ணமிக்கு அடுத்த நாள் (பிரதமை திதி) முதல், அமாவாசைக்கு அடுத்துள்ள பிரதமை வரை உள்ள நாட்கள் மகாளயபட்சம் எனப்படும். இந்த சமயத்தில் நம் முன்னோர்களை திருப்தி செய்யும் வகையில் தர்ப்பணம் செய்ய வேண்டியது அவசியம். இந்நாளில் தீர்த்தத்தலங்களுக்குச் சென்று எள், தண்ணீர் இறைத்து, அவர்களது தாகம் தீர்க்க வேண்டும். இந்த காலகட்டத்தில் வரும் பானி, மஹாபானி என்றும், அஷ்டமி, மத்பாஷ்டமி என்றும் திரயோதசி கஜச்சாயை என்றும் கூறப்படும். இந்த புண்ணிய தினங்களில் பித்ருக்கள் வழிபாடு மிகச்சிறந்ததாகும்.
http://temple.dinamalar.com/FestivalDetail.aspx?id=594

English: Worshiping ancestors on Mahalaya amavasya day 15October2012 is a must

kannan infratech

December 19th, 2012, 12:58 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samarangana_Sutradhara

Samarangana Sutradhara
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Samarangana Sutradhara is an encyclopedic work on classical Indian architecture (Vastu Shastra) written by Paramara King Bhoja of Dhar (1000–1055 AD).

In 83 chapters, subjects treated are town planning, house architecture, temple architecture and sculptural arts together with Mudras (the different hand poses and the poses of the body as well as the postures of legs), the canons of painting, and a chapter on the art of mechanical contrivances, the yantras (chapter 31).

This chapter on yantras has attracted the attention of many people looking for other things beyond mere science too [1] Verses 95-100 mentions bird-shaped aerial cars (Vimanas), and verses 101-107 mention a sort of robots acting as guards.
Here are some verses from Samarangana Sutradhara, which describes characteristics a "sthapati" i.e. architect (based on translation by Punya Mishra).

The architect should be well-versed in the science involving the significance of objects to be created and their specificationss. He should know the theory and the practice; he should have the insight and the skill accompanied with procedure.

That person is said to be an expert in workmanship who knows how to sketch the ground plan, draftsmanship, the horizontal and vertical measurements, the details of ground work of the plot, the 14 kinds of sketch lines, the cutting of the logs and stones etc., and seven kinds of circular sections; well finished joinings of the joints and proper demarcation of upper, lower and outer lines.

An sthapati should know eightfold workmanship, the draftsmanship and sketches of various kinds, and variety of carpentery, stone-masonry and gold-smithy. The engineer equipped with these merits invokes respect. One who knows the fourfold engineering with its eight constituents and who is pure in his mind gets status in the assembly of engineers, and is endowed with a long life.

Editions

Sastri, T.G. (1924)
Kumar, Pushpendra, Bhoja's Samarangana-Sutradhara : Vastushastra. 2 Vols, New Bharatiya Book Corporation (2004), ISBN 81-87418-92-3.
Sharma, Sudarshan Kumar, Samarangana Sutradhara of Bhojadeva : An Ancient Treatise on Architecture, 2 Vols. (2007), ISBN 81-7110-302-2.

kannan infratech

December 19th, 2012, 01:17 PM

http://www.bgci.org/education/1686/

The Teaching of Indian Traditional Medicine

Contibuted by S. Rajasekharan, T.G. Vinod Kumar, A.E. Shanavaskhan, S. Binu and P. Pushpangadan, Tropical Botanic Garden and Research Institute, Pacha Palode, Thiruvananthapuram 695562 Kerala, India

The Teaching of Indian Traditional Medicine

Indian Traditional Medicine functions through two social streams:

The Classical Health Traditions (CHT) like Ayurveda and Siddha are highly organised, classified, and codified and have a sophisticated conceptual and theoretical foundation and philosophical explanations.
The other stream, Oral Health Traditions (OHT), is very rich and diverse, but is not organised or codified. It is a distilled knowledge from people’s experience and is prevalent in rural and tribal areas of India. This oral folk tradition is mainly based on plants and it holds a respectable position today, especially in developing countries where modern health care is limited. Safe, effective and inexpensive indigenous remedies are gaining popularity among the urban and rural populations especially in India and China.
Classic Health Tradition (Ayurveda, Siddha and Amchi)

Classic health traditions have developed from Vedic/classical texts and treatises like Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda and Atharvaveda, Charaka Samhita (text on ancient Indian medicine), Susruta Samhita (text on ancient Indian surgery), Ashtanga Samgraha, Ashtanga Hridaya (text on ancient Indian medicine and surgery), Kashyapa Samhita (text on gynaecology and child health), and other numerous related text books in both Sanskrit and regional languages.
Oral Health Tradition (Folk and Tribal)

Oral health traditions have developed from:

Traditionally trained folk healers/village physicians.
Folk healers/village physicians who are not traditionally trained but experienced in certain health practices (e.g. Dai, bone setters, specialists in treating poisons, jaundice, mental disorders.
Old individual or different ethnic communities including women treating the patients based on the knowledge acquired from their predecessors.
Individuals belonging to different professions (educated group) who acquired certain knowledge from their predecessors
Ancient copper plate/palm leaf writings.
Old and recent publications in regional language.
Traditional groups of tribes.
Organised groups of tribal communities/tribal physicians/old individuals.
Tribal physicians among the migrated groups of tribe settled in the plains.
Ayurveda

Ayurveda is not merely a system of medicine, in a broader sense it is the science of life of the universe; hence it is universally applicable. The word originates from Sanskrit; ‘Ayu’ meaning life and ‘Veda’ meaning knowledge/science pertaining to human beings thereby forming the word Ayurveda, or in the case of knowledge pertaining to plants or animals the words Vrikshayurveda and Mrugayurveda are used respectively.

Ayurveda teaches us the science of life from a micro to a macro level. Therefore Ayurveda, conceptualised with concrete fundamental theories, begins with the theory of evolution of the universe (Brahmanda) with the entire life forms (Pindanda) prevailing in it (including human beings, plants, animals and microbes etc.), supported with non living components like soil, water, minerals and metals. According to Ayurveda, all the living and non-living things are made up of the five elementary principles (Panchamahabhutas) which are derived from the three effective principles/energies of nature (Prakruti):

Satwa - responsible for conscious manifestation
Rajas - responsible for the existence of energy in matter
Tamas - responsible for resistance and stability.
The actions, interactions and transformations of the five elementary principles, ‘Apancheekrita panchabhuta and Pancheekrita panchabhuta’ which have evolved from the pre-particle state to the molecular state (Panchatanmatras) leads to their different states of equilibrium.
(Rajasekharan 1995)

The objective of the science of life is to maintain the equilibrium state of the body’s elements. In short, when an imbalance takes place in the Panchabhautika character of the body and mind due to various etiological factors, the balancing state of doshas will be affected and this will be reflected on Saptadhatus and Malas. This in turn aggravates or depletes the balancing equilibrium of dosha, dhatu and mala of the body and mind and produces different kinds of disorders. The ultimate objective of treatment is to bring a person back to a balanced state. This process is termed in Ayurveda as Dhatusamyakriya. This balancing technique helps the doshas to achieve an equilibrium, therefore the selection of a drug should be based on the bhuta character of the drug. For example, if the disorder is due to Prithvi bhuta depletion, the drug prescribed must be Prithvi bhuta predominant.

Divisions of Ayurveda

There are two divisions of Ayurveda: Swasthavritta and Athuravritta.

Swasthavritta mainly deals with Swasthasya Swasrhya Rakshanam i.e. how to maintain the health of a healthy person in a positive way through prevention, promotion and correction (Table 2).
Athuravritta deals with disease management and treatment through prevention, promotion, correction and curation. Athuravritta can involve medicine and/or surgery.
Within Ayurveda there are eight specialities:

Kayachikitsa - internal medicine
Kaumarabhritya - paediatrics and gynaecology
Shalyatantra - surgery
Shalakyatantra - ophthalmology and otorihnolaryngyology
Grihachikitsa - psychiatry
Agatatantra - toxicology
Rasayanatantra - geriatrics / rejuvenation therapy
Vajeekaranatantra - sexology / virilification
How to maintain the mental and physical health of a healthy person through Swasthavritta

Sadvritha (Mental) - Ethical Conduct

Natural urges (urine, faeces, semen, sneezing, yawning, hunger, thirst, sleep, tears and taking deep breaths after exertion) are important and should not be suppressed or induced.
Nithya Rasayanas, the ethical principles which rejuvenate the mental faculty should be followed.
Sadvritha (Physical) - Health Conduct

Daily routine (Dinacharya)
Seasonal regimens (Ritucharya)
Exercise, yoga and meditation are important.
Wholesome food, seasonal food and ethnic food are important and should be taken.
Healthy sexual behaviour and sound sleep.
Panchakarma (techniques adopted for servicing/conditioning the physical faculty/mental faculty) should be applied.
Rasayana* should be applied in Vajeekarana.
*The aim of applying Rasayana at the right time and age is to bleach out the toxins accumulated in the cellular level so as to condition and/or service the whole body and mind. Further it accelerates the process of RASA + AYANA which is a enriching/nourishing mechanism which helps to control ageing and enhances strength and vitality.

Plants in Ayurveda

The study of plant species can be traced from the age of Vedas. Plants are considered as divine in origin and were worshipped as Mother (Goddess). In the aushadi sooktha of Rigveda it is said ‘Oh! Divine plants! Always be kind to us! Pour happiness over us, you are having great power like the horse, you are the greatest destroyer of fatal diseases, you are the guardian of mankind, save and protect us from all kinds of illness’.

There are a number of plants which have been mentioned in the three main treatises of Ayurveda:

Charaka Samhita: 1100 plant names
Susruta Samhita: 1270 plant names
Astanga Hridaya: 1150 plant names
The total number of plants mentioned in the above three samhitas has been estimated to be 1900, out of which 670 are common to all three texts and about 240, 370 and 240 respectively have been exclusively mentioned in the three texts.

Indian Ethnobotany

Different ethnic groups of ancient lineage and the occurrence of rich biodiversity make India one of the richest countries in the world in the field of ethnobotanical knowledge. Over 53 million tribal people belonging to over 550 tribal communities coming under 227 linguistic groups inhabit the Indian subcontinent. They inhabit varied geographic climatic zones throughout the country.

Ethno-medico-botanical investigation has led to the documentation of a large number of wild plants used by tribal people for meeting their multifarious requirements. The application of most of the plants recorded are either lesser known or hitherto unknown to the outside world.

Wild Plants for Food, Medicine, Fibre, Fodder and Other Purposes

Over 9500 wild species used by tribal groups for meeting their varied requirements have been recorded so far. Out of 7500 wild plant species used by these groups for medicinal purposes, about 950 have not been previously recorded and are worthy of scientific scrutiny. Of the 3900 or more wild plant species used for edible purposes (as subsidiary food/vegetables) by tribal groups, about 800 have provided new information and at least 250 of them are worthy of attention because of their potential to be developed as alternative food sources food to meet future world needs.

Similarly, out of over 525 wild plant species used by tribal groups for making fibre and cordage, 50 have potential for commercial exploitation. Out of 400 plant species used as fodder, 100 are worth recommending for wider use and out of the 300 wild plant species used as pesticides, at least 175 show promise as safe biopesticides. Due to the revived interest worldwide, almost all the plants used as gum, resin, dye, incense and perfumes are worth investigating.

Indian Ethnomedicine

Ethnomedicine denotes plants, animal products and minerals used by tribal communities of a particular region or country for medicinal purposes other than those mentioned in classical streams of the respective cultures.

Ethnomedicinal information/data is playing an important role for developing new scientifically validated and standardised drugs (both herbal and modern). In India, uses of more than 7500 plant species by different ethnic communities have been recorded so far.

An intensive ethnomedical survey conducted by the author and his team from 1987-1992 in the southern most state of India (Kerala), has provided rich and varied ethnomedical data recorded from the different tribal communities including Kani, Malapandaram, and Cholanaykan. During this study, the author documented medicinal uses of over 300 single plant species and 100 formulations. Much of the information is new and hitherto unknown to the outside world and has not been mentioned in other classical systems of medicine for the scientific validation of these data.

Arogyappacha and Benefit Sharing with the Kani Tribal People

Based on the ethnomedical data collected from the Kani tribal people, the author and his team selected Arogyappacha (Trichopus zeylanicus subsp. travancoricus) for detailed ethnopharmacological investigations. In 1987, Mr. Mallan Kani and Mr. Kuttimathan Kani of Chonampara provided the clue that ‘…the tender fruits of the plant are having anti-fatigue property’.

The Kanis

The Kanis inhabit the forests of the Thiruvananthapuram district of Kerala in southwestern India. According to the census of India from 1991, their population is 16 181, which is approximately 1.8 percent of the total population of the district. The Kanis are traditionally a nomadic community. The traditional occupation of the Kanis, which they continue to follow to some extent, includes handicrafts such as basket making, mat making and cane works. They are also engaged in the seasonal collection of minor forest produce such as honey, bee wax and medicinal plants.

Based on the Kanis information on Arogyappacha scientists of TBGRI developed a scientifically validated and standardised herbal drug called Jeevani. It is a formulation consisting of four ingredients. The drug was designed by the Ethnomedicine and Ethnopharmacology Division of TBGRI in which Arogyappacha is one of the constituents. Therapeutic efficacy of this formulation has been proved by conducting research studies at various levels. Jeevani has been found to have good anti-fatigue and immuno-enhancing properties and it has also shown good hepato-protective and anti-stress properties.

In 1995, the technology for the production of Jeevani has been transferred to an Ayurvedic drug manufacturing company (Coimbatore Arya Vaidya Pharmacy Ltd.) for a period of 7 years after obtaining a licence fee of Rs 10Lakhs (one million rupees; approximately $ 25 000US) and 2% royalty on the ex-factory sales price from the company.

Subsequently TBGRI decided to share 50% of the licence fee as well as the royalty with the Kani people to encourage an equitable sharing of the benefits arising from the utilisation of such knowledge, innovations and practices as stated in the mandate of Article 8(j) of the Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD). This is considered to be one of the first models for benefit sharing in the world, which is popularly known as the TBGRI Model for Benefit Sharing. The Government of India has presented this case study to the Secretariat of CBD.

The 50% share promised to the Kani people was handed over to them in March 1999 and remitted in the account of the trust, constituted by the Kani people known as Kerala Kani Samudaya Kshema Trust.

Primary Health Care Through the Botanic Gardens - Herbs for all and Health for all

The security of a nation is directly related to the food and health security of its people. A biodiversity rich nation like India can achieve a reasonably high level of food and health security, if the people are encouraged to make the best use of the local biodiversity resources with appropriate science and technology intervention.

Herbs for All and Health for All is a model, experimented by the scientists of TBGRI, with a view to empower the people to take care of their primary health care needs by making best use of the locally available medicinal plant resources. It is essentially a participatory, action-oriented programme. It has been designed to equip the rural villages of Kerala State, India, to conserve and utilise plant biodiversity in a sustainable manner.

In this programme training was given especially to the women folk on public health and hygiene, (based on both traditional and modern medical systems), biodiversity conservation, cultivation and sustainable utilisation of plants including medicinal plants and lesser known fruits and vegetables. The programme emphasised the nutritive, preventive, promotive, corrective and curative properties of plants with a view to combat common ailments through the administration of home remedies.

There were several key steps in the approach used for the Herbs for All and Health for All project. These steps included:

Undertaking an awareness campaign in the village on conservation, cultivation and the sustainable utilisation of local biodiversity.
Selecting a core group of 10 members from each village.
Developing and conducting a Trainers Training Programme
Each trainer then in turn trained 20 families in their own village, therefore 20x10 = 200 families per village were trained.
Evaluation of the project.
Training is imparted to the core group members in:

general awareness on public health and hygiene
conservation of biodiversity
cultivation and propagation of medicinal plants
cultivation and propagation of lesser known wild edible fruits and vegetables
the sustainable utilisation of medicinal and edible plants
practical training in the preparation of home remedies for primary health care.
Conclusion

In conclusion, it is the collective responsibility of individuals, families and governments to ensure the health security of members of the community. The staff at TBGRI have recognised the importance of continuing, and supporting, the teaching of traditional Indian medicine to ensure the health and well being of their local communities and the maintenance of biodiversity. The Herbs for All and Health for All project provides a excellent model for botanic gardens so that they can play an important role in educating people about the sustainable utilisation of the local biodiversity for health care and income generation.

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