Site of a new Turkish Built Multi-purpose Stadium right on Jaziira Beach, Mogadishu. I will personally be monitoring this project and updating SSC on its progress, inshallah

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/432153_10100257461876770_555470414_n.jpg

Wow i love jaziira beach infact i prefer jaziira to the much fancy liido.Evolving what kind of stadium is this football? very interesting.jaziira xeebteeda dadka maa kuu badno lakiin waxaan kaa cabsanaa hadda madaama oo Somalida diaspora soo wadda noqonayaan in ee liido camal noqoto lol.su aal kale garoonkaan mid lowcost ah miyaa misse waa something like stadio konis?masha Allah walalaha Turkiye will never be forgotten.

Wow i love jaziira beach infact i prefer jaziira to the much fancy liido.Evolving what kind of stadium is this football? very interesting.jaziira xeebteeda dadka maa kuu badno lakiin waxaan kaa cabsanaa hadda madaama oo Somalida diaspora soo wadda noqonayaan in ee liido camal noqoto lol.su aal kale garoonkaan mid lowcost ah miyaa misse waa something like stadio konis?masha Allah walalaha Turkiye will never be forgotten.

Same here. Jaziira Beach is my personal favorite.

The stadium will be multi-purpose complete with running tracks, soccer field, basketball, & volly-ball. It's going to be the most modern in Somalia after its done, unless Stadia Konis & Stadium Mogadishu are renovated seriously. The Turks are pretty serious about it.

Is that Ankara stadium?

Is that Ankara stadium?

Is that what it will be called?

Is that what it will be called?

Yes and they already played a tournament there, I believe.

Yes and they already played a tournament there, I believe.

But the Stadium is not complete though, by a long margin & there are all sorts of heavy equipment in the site, with a pictorial rendition of what it will look like when it's done. I was inside a car when I took that picture, so I couldn't capture everything; but inshallah will take complete pictures when I go back after Ramadan.

Is that Ankara stadium?

That doesn't sound right.

But the Stadium is not complete though, by a long margin & there are all sorts of heavy equipment in the site, with a pictorial rendition of what it will look like when it's done. I was inside a car when I took that picture, so I couldn't capture everything; but inshallah will take complete pictures when I go back after Ramadan.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/mogadishu-hosts-football-tournament.aspx?pageID=238&nID=26089&NewsCatID=365


Btw, where did you see the pictorial rendition? I'd like to see it

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/mogadishu-hosts-football-tournament.aspx?pageID=238&nID=26089&NewsCatID=365


Btw, where did you see the pictorial rendition? I'd like to see it

I see where you coming from. The Stadium itself is not completed. That tournament was held in an open field that will eventually become part of the stadium complex.

I was in Mogadishu & I personally saw. I didn't read it anywhere

I see where you coming from. The Stadium itself is not completed. That tournament was held in an open field that will eventually become part of the stadium complex.

I was in Mogadishu & I personally saw. I didn't read it anywhere

Oh I see. Do you got any information about when it going to be completed? It looked as if it wasnt started yet in the picture.

When did you visit Mogadishu ?

Is that what it will be called?

I believe that's the name given to that stadium.

That doesn't sound right.

:lol: How so?

Oh I see. Do you got any information about when it going to be completed? It looked as if it wasnt started yet in the picture.

When did you visit Mogadishu ?

No, 99% of the work is not done. So far only the equipment has been moved in. I suspect some of the sub-contractors are Somalis & they are lacking behind. I hope they finish this stadium & the children's hospital within next year. These two projects are some of the most ambitious in Mogadishu so far.

I frequently visit Mogadishu & I am slated to be back after Ramadan

I believe that's the name given to that stadium.

Ah! I didn't know that.

:lol: How so?

Ankara is in Turkey and not in Moga.

Ankara is in Turkey and not in Moga.

They built it so what's the big deal if they name it Ankara?

A Somali name would be nicer.

They built it so what's the big deal if they name it Ankara?

We don't see eye to eye on this issue, therefore, let us agree to disagree.

There is nothing for us to agree/disagree on. I just asked you a question, no biggie if you don't want to answer it. :cheers:

There is nothing for us to agree/disagree on. I just asked you a question, no biggie if you don't want to answer it. :cheers:

i agree with you! if they built it then they should be able to name it whatever they want just like how Somalis in the states open restaurants and give them Somali names when there are a lot of non-Somalis who eat there.

I am not sure but I assume that the Ankara designation is simply a working name and that once the complex is done, they will come up with a final name. With regards to the question whether it should be Turkish or a Somali name, I don't think a Turkish name will hurt much especially as a goodwill gesture to the efforts and contributions the Turks have made in investing and uplifting Somalia.

They should be free to name it what they want.we most be humble and thank the Turkish brothers and sister for helping Somalia.

Remember we have stadio CONI which means Comitato Olimpico Nazionale Italiano. and i dont see the problem with Ankara Stadium. Globalization is the word that Somalis have to learn from now on,everyone who invest money has the right to choose the name they want.

Good location. But as mentioned before, the names a bit odd. Imagine Wembley Stadium being named Ankara Stadium, Islamabad Stadium etc. Its your national stadium and should be a symbol of national pride. Lets hope its renamed.

Is it the national stadium though?

If it is...then 100%, it must have a Somali name. You can't have a foreign name on a stadium that is supposed to be the home base of a national team, that is just disgraceful.

If its just a normal stadium, then I can care less what it's called.

I think the fact that it's being named Ankara stadium is a good thing... in so far as it being a constant reminder that we need to get our act together oo aynu inagu isku filaanno. As the saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.

It's the Turk's prerogative to name it as they see fit. If we have the desire/pride/arrogance to want to name your own stadiums/landmark's as you see fit, which as a country we ought to, then we need to be able to back that up i.e. be able to fund, built and maintain them - otherwise shut up and put up untill you are able to do so. Hadaynu doonayno in aynu inagu magacaabano waa inaynu inagu dhisano oo kharashka bixino. You can't try to search some traces of dignity (by way of the name) in a situation that is inherently undignified. Real talk.

Good location. But as mentioned before, the names a bit odd. Imagine Wembley Stadium being named Ankara Stadium, Islamabad Stadium etc. Its your national stadium and should be a symbol of national pride. Lets hope its renamed.

The Rt. Hon and Xusien, that's exactly what I am saying if its a national stadium.

Remember Muqdisho stadium was build by the Chinese, but was never named by a Chinese city.

Good topics are being ruined with trivial b.s. This is not the first time Ja'far displays his xenophobic attitude to any foreign investment into the country, from SKA to this stadium, it's silly. This is not the 'national' stadium, not a single shred of evidence supporting this, nor will it be the last stadium to be constructed in the capital or the country, because with stability much larger projects will be established, including new sports facilities, so what if this particular one is named after the Turkish capital?

This is misplaced nationalism, out of the dozen flagship projects symbolising the Turkey-Somalia relationship, only one is named after Turkey's capital, yet we act as if the official language of Somalia has just been changed into Turkish.

^ +1 :D

Good topics are being ruined with trivial b.s.

That signifies the forum becoming busier :laugh:

Quality over quantity brother, the forum was already one of the fastest growing, yet there was little to no calaacal.

This is not the 'national' stadium, not a single shred of evidence supporting this, nor will it be the last stadium to be constructed in the capital or the country, because with stability much larger projects will be established, including new sports facilities, so what if this particular one is named after the Turkish capital?

This is misplaced nationalism, out of the dozen flagship projects symbolising the Turkey-Somalia relationship, only one is named after Turkey's capital, yet we act as if the official language of Somalia has just been changed into Turkish.

Well said brother. :cheers:

Good topics are being ruined with trivial b.s. This is not the first time Ja'far displays his xenophobic attitude to any foreign investment into the country, from SKA to this stadium, it's silly. This is not the 'national' stadium, not a single shred of evidence supporting this, nor will it be the last stadium to be constructed in the capital or the country, because with stability much larger projects will be established, including new sports facilities, so what if this particular one is named after the Turkish capital?

This is misplaced nationalism, out of the dozen flagship projects symbolising the Turkey-Somalia relationship, only one is named after Turkey's capital, yet we act as if the official language of Somalia has just been changed into Turkish.
Amen brother
you couldn't said better

Good location. But as mentioned before, the names a bit odd. Imagine Wembley Stadium being named Ankara Stadium, Islamabad Stadium etc. Its your national stadium and should be a symbol of national pride. Lets hope its renamed.

the national stadium in uganda is named Nelson Mandela stadium

hopefully this stadium is decent i doubt the turks will build something big but hopefully its decent 10,000-15 seater.

Good topics are being ruined with trivial b.s. This is not the first time Ja'far displays his xenophobic attitude to any foreign investment into the country, from SKA to this stadium, it's silly. This is not the 'national' stadium, not a single shred of evidence supporting this, nor will it be the last stadium to be constructed in the capital or the country, because with stability much larger projects will be established, including new sports facilities, so what if this particular one is named after the Turkish capital?

This is misplaced nationalism, out of the dozen flagship projects symbolising the Turkey-Somalia relationship, only one is named after Turkey's capital, yet we act as if the official language of Somalia has just been changed into Turkish.

War waad warbadan tahay, cunugyahow.

the national stadium in uganda is named Nelson Mandela stadium

There's nothing wrong with naming a stadium after one of the world's most revered statesmen.

Even Tayyip Erdogan Stadium would have been better. Anyway i'll leave it at that.

Guys, I think the discussion is healthy, let's get off the insults, is deji. What I am more interested in though is pics.


If we have the desire/pride/arrogance to want to name your own stadiums/landmark's as you see fit, which as a country we ought to, then we need to be able to back that up i.e. be able to fund, built and maintain them - otherwise shut up, put up and walliba say "Thank you" untill you are able to do so.

SMH, you would think some Somali businessmen would come with such an idea, having a competitive league where we can channel our rivalries into something of value. Imagine how epic the tournaments would be.

Honestly though, I think Somalis need to get off the charity bit with the Turks. This is investment, not charity.

War waad warbadan tahay, cunugyahow.

Qoraal kaga 'one liners' ka badan waligay maan arkin meesan, oday-yahow. :D

Xusein, Arsenal's home-turf is called 'The Emirates', and the UAE didn't even built it. This drama is misplaced, and a clear example of our extreme paranoia/suspicion for anything foreign.

There's nothing wrong with naming a stadium after one of the world's most revered statesmen.

Even Tayyip Erdogan Stadium would have been better. Anyway i'll leave it at that.

+2012

The site seems small....

Asxaabta maanta ayaa yar ku nool degmada madina kala hadley garoonkaan mashruucisa wuxuu igu dhahay garoon mahan ee waa meel banaan oo qashin lagu shubin jirey oo heyadaha Turkiga ee kaa xaaqeen laba goal ayaa lagu sameyey that is all lol waa garoon baceed xafadeed ah oo lagu talagalay dhalinyarada degmada madina,dhismaha garoonka wuu dhamaadey haddana waa laa isticmala.

^ lol. Xitaa haddii ey saas tahey ma xumo oo waa loo baahan yahey garoomaha caynkaas ah. Waan jeclaan lahaa haddii uu noqon lahaa sida la sheegaaye laakiin tee dadka deegaanka iyo dhalinyarada ugu faa'ido badan? Tan ayey ila tahey anigu.

^ lol. Xitaa haddii ey saas tahey ma xumo oo waa loo baahan yahey garoomaha caynkaas ah. Waan jeclaan lahaa haddii uu noqon lahaa sida la sheegaaye laakiin tee dadka deegaanka iyo dhalinyarada ugu faa'ido badan? Tan ayey ila tahey anigu.
Haa bro waa ruuntaa wax walba oo Somalia lagu dheeqo waa welcome,degmo walba garoon baceed ayee lahey,marka xitta intaan waa wax lagu farxo dhalinyarada meel ee kuu mashquulan ayee helayaan.

Turkiya, waad ku mahadsantihiin waxtarmada aa dalka ka wadaan...Somaliya, waligeey ma arkin dal saaxiib la ah, Cold War saaxiibnimadii jirtey meesha ka saarno...

Dalka Turkiya sida dalalka ee aduunka interest ayaa naga dhaxeen doona, lkn, maanta oo Soomaliya liidato Turkiya meel weyn ayuu nooga soo baxay waxqabkiisa ...

thx thx thx Turkiya...

Ankara Stadium waa ok magacaas ee Xamar la dhisaayo, waxba kama qabo; gacan hadaad hoorsatey ma jirto sadaqada 300 ka dhig maya, ma rabtid miyaa 100 kaan ok; miiskiin kaan kale ayaan siinaayaa marka-maya maya 100ka iska keen igama daraayo...lol

Ankara Stadium ma ahaanee Kamal Attaturk u bixiya xataa, Al Shabaab dhiigooda ha karkaree...kkkkk

I heard Turkey private company want to built Hotel at Jazira's waterfront. Even though it hasn't been confirmed yet, but friend of mine who works with Turkish employees in Mogadishu has told me, " Small group from Turkish private company landed at Mogadishu airport and they were whisked them immediately to the Jazira beach as they were mapping in particular section at waterfront on Jazira beach. They leaked someone that they may interest to built 5 star Hotel near Jazira beach..... INTEREST !!

I heard Turkey private company want to built Hotel at Jazira's waterfront. Even though it hasn't been confirmed yet, but friend of mine who works with Turkish employees in Mogadishu has told me, " Small group from Turkish private company landed at Mogadishu airport and they were whisked them immediately to the Jazira beach as they were mapping in particular section at waterfront on Jazira beach. They leaked someone that they may interest to built 5 star Hotel near Jazira beach..... INTEREST !!
From what I understand, all Turkish projects are public developments (hospitals, schools, mosques, roads, government buildings, etc), not private (hotels, restaurants, etc). Their NGO's are non-profit. Hotels are purely for profit.

From what I understand, all Turkish projects are public developments (hospitals, schools, mosques, roads, government buildings, etc), not private (hotels, restaurants, etc). Their NGO's are non-profit. Hotels are purely for profit.
True. So far, all Turkish NGO's are busy building state instituations and other public projects but let me tell you, when the dust settles, we can anticipate an influx of Turkish investors to Somalia. Maybe some are already investing in the country or are in the planning stage...

Here is an old article

"On December 6, 2012 in Istanbul, TUSKON hosted a forum on business opportunities in Somalia that included Somali President Hasan Seyh Mahmud and Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan. Also in attendance were Turkish businessmen interested in investing in Somalia.

After fighting a hard battle to become president, Somali President Hasan Seyh Mahmud traveled to Turkey as his first international visit in the beginning of December after which the President took another trip for TUSKON’s forum. TUSKON President Rizanur Meral and Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan mentioned that Somalia and Turkey have had strong ties and thus Turkey has supported Somalia and is willing to aide Somalia with any problem they have. President Hasan Seyh Mahmud stated that till today Turkey has been of immense assistance to the Somalis people and they expect nothing but the same in the future.

Turkish businessmen made claims for their future projects in Somalia which include textile factories, constructing new hotels, betterment of roads along with designing the new state buildings. "
http://www.tuskonus.org/tuskon.php?c=1&s=&e=320

True. So far, all Turkish NGO's are busy building state instituations and other public projects but let me tell you, when the dust settles, we can anticipate an influx of Turkish investors to Somalia. Maybe some are already investing in the country or are in the planning stage...

Here is an old article

"On December 6, 2012 in Istanbul, TUSKON hosted a forum on business opportunities in Somalia that included Somali President Hasan Seyh Mahmud and Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan. Also in attendance were Turkish businessmen interested in investing in Somalia.

After fighting a hard battle to become president, Somali President Hasan Seyh Mahmud traveled to Turkey as his first international visit in the beginning of December after which the President took another trip for TUSKON’s forum. TUSKON President Rizanur Meral and Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan mentioned that Somalia and Turkey have had strong ties and thus Turkey has supported Somalia and is willing to aide Somalia with any problem they have. President Hasan Seyh Mahmud stated that till today Turkey has been of immense assistance to the Somalis people and they expect nothing but the same in the future.

Turkish businessmen made claims for their future projects in Somalia which include textile factories, constructing new hotels, betterment of roads along with designing the new state buildings. "
http://www.tuskonus.org/tuskon.php?c=1&s=&e=320
That's good to know.

Truth is, no one will put their "own" serious money in Somalia now, until the country is "secure" enough. There are very few private investments, and they are all in the scale of $1 million or less. Real private investments should either mid-level ($1-5 million) or high-level ($5 million+) for serious grade investment. Case in point; hotels, commercial buildings, entire communities being built by a developer, factories, etc. All the investment money in the market now are from international assistance for the public sector, even Turkey is riding the wave to use those funds as a litmus test for Somalia's investment prospects.

That's good to know.

Truth is, no one will put their "own" serious money in Somalia now, until the country is "secure" enough. There are very few private investments, and they are all in the scale of $1 million or less. Real private investments should either mid-level ($1-5 million) or high-level ($5 million+) for serious grade investment. Case in point; hotels, commercial buildings, entire communities being built by a developer, factories, etc. All the investment money in the market now are from international assistance for the public sector, even Turkey is riding the wave to use those funds as a litmus test for Somalia's investment prospects.

This is the reason why Turkey is eager to train and develop us professional national army/police so the country can be safe to live and work like a normal country.

Asxaabta maanta ayaa yar ku nool degmada madina kala hadley garoonkaan mashruucisa wuxuu igu dhahay garoon mahan ee waa meel banaan oo qashin lagu shubin jirey oo heyadaha Turkiga ee kaa xaaqeen laba goal ayaa lagu sameyey that is all lol waa garoon baceed xafadeed ah oo lagu talagalay dhalinyarada degmada madina,dhismaha garoonka wuu dhamaadey haddana waa laa isticmala.

If what your friend's is true, then it must be a recent change. When I took that shot, there was clearly an outline of how the stadium will look like & all sorts of construction vehicles.

Some of these Turkish projects are routinely deleyed or cancelled. There was a plan to rebuild the Airport Road by the Turks, which I believe was their first project, but so far nothing has happened. It could be that this stadium project is either totally cancelled or deffered.

From what I understand, all Turkish projects are public developments (hospitals, schools, mosques, roads, government buildings, etc), not private (hotels, restaurants, etc). Their NGO's are non-profit. Hotels are purely for profit.

That's certainly not true. I know of Turkish businessmen that were looking to build a hotel in Lido & some that were looking to get into commercial farming. There's an entire Somali-Turkish Chamber of Commerce that's specifically for the private sector.

That's certainly not true. I know of Turkish businessmen that were looking to build a hotel in Lido & some that were looking to get into commercial farming. There's an entire Somali-Turkish Chamber of Commerce that's specifically for the private sector.
Keyword... "looking". What form will the funding for these projects be... "cash". Unless there a multiple investors throwing their cash in the hat (co-investing between Somalis is also a sticky business), its difficult for Somali investors to venture in such expensive projects. Not saying there aren't any who can afford to, but unlikely.

I don't like how a lot of these projects are being set up in the beach which I think, should be reserved for tourism & recreation infrastructures. Why would a stadium be built in the beach for instance?

I don't like how a lot of these projects are being set up in the beach which I think, should be reserved for tourism & recreation infrastructures. Why would a stadium be built in the beach for instance?

because we have the longest coastline in Africa and beach property is not limited to just the hospitality industry. why build a stadium in the middle of the city when you can build one right on the beach with beautiful views. plus if ever the home team loses inner city windows and shops won't be looted, people will be holding hands and frolicking on the beach :banana::banana:

^^ LOL simple but effective reasoning.

Northie, your reasoning is such a good example of "Somali marmarsiyo ma weydo" :lol:

Northie, your reasoning is such a good example of "Somali marmarsiyo ma weydo" :lol:

Lol

Northie, your reasoning is such a good example of "Somali marmarsiyo ma weydo" :lol:

Lmao I threw every excuse I could think of ahah. Na but seriously the beaches are where We all want to be, that's also where we should start our urban revival. When life gives you lemons you make lemonade, in our case we have miles upon miles of beautiful coastline along greater Mogadisho.

I don't like how a lot of these projects are being set up in the beach which I think, should be reserved for tourism & recreation infrastructures. Why would a stadium be built in the beach for instance?

I think it has alot to do with security. The coastal areas can be better guarded and are far away from the residential areas that are inherently hard to defend from the nefarious forces at work in our nation. As security is consolidated, chances are that more projects will be built within the city limits. These mega-projects are meant to reverse the destructive labels that hinder progress in Somalia and God Forbid if something happens to the groups undertakings these projects, the damage could be irreversible. Better safe than sorry.