This is really an interesting subject.

In America there 250.000 Americans who call themselves as Melungeons(in Turkish: Meluncan) and say they are the sons of Turks, Spaniards and Portuguese.

They have surnames very similar to Turkish surnames. They visit Turkey every year to seek their ancestors.

The most famous Melungeons are: Abraham Lincoln and Elvis Presley.

They have a website: www.melungeons.com

What you guys know about Melungeons?

Böyle bişey duymuştum daha önce ama pek inanmamıştım.. Siteyi inceleyelim bakalım..

Yanılmıyorsam Türk dahil olmak üzere çeşitli ırklara mensup Amerikalılar Meluncanlar.

Forumlarında biri Meluncanlar Türk mü diye anket yapmış, 52 si ezici çoğunlukla evet demiş.

İlginç...

http://www.mezunusa.com/turkofamerica/default.cfm

güzel bir makale...

Gerçekten güzel makale!

Niagara = Ne Yaygara
Delaware = Dilhah Yer

Çok iyi ya! :) hehehe!

^^^^ :hilarious::hilarious:
Ottawa= Otlu ova
Canada= Kan Ata
Kapuskasi= Kapuska (hmmmm)

bence bizimkilerin katkisi daha da fazla...

New York = Ne yiyok ?
Boston = Bostan yiyok ;)
Alaska = Aslaa.... gitme
Teksas = tek saz :)
Dallas = Deli Laz :hahaha:

cok güzel
bir de bakiyorsun ilk aya adimini atan bir türk cikiyor :jk: :hahaha: :hahaha:

ya ben bunları dumuştum ama bukadar gülmemiştim çok iyi ya:lol:

Kapuskasing(A small town) = Kapuska
Kars (A small northern ontario town) = Kars (A city in Turkey)

Gercekden cok guzel bir calisma yapmissiniz. :applause:

There is a great quantity of Turks and of Ottoman descendants in Argentina, which of course also is in American Continent.

That's right they were mainly Ottoman Levents(sailors) that were taken as slaves by Spanish. :)

btw They mention Elvis Presley probably having Portuguese roots, His name Elvis is coming form a Portuguese town Elvas.

Also they mention Abraham Lincoln having a Turkish grandfather named Ibrahim. I also read that in a book of Ferhan Sensoy.

Interesting...

There is a great quantity of Turks and of Ottoman descendants in Argentina, which of course also is in American Continent.

Renzo
I have read about that in a book too. They are actually not Turks. Though they arrived to the continent with Ottoman passports they are Arabic decendants. Another fact that supports my argument is that they don't even speak (know) Turkish.

btw They mention Elvis Presley probably having Portuguese roots, His name Elvis is coming form a Portuguese town Elvas.

Also they mention Abraham Lincoln having a Turkish grandfather named Ibrahim. I also read that in a book of Ferhan Sensoy.

Interesting...


He may have portuguese roots but i don't think it has anything to do with his name because the name elvis is used by the americans.

Was it used before Elvis Presley too? I mean the name Elvis?

I'm not sure about that but i've just found a website about american names. For elvis it says it means wise and is of scandinavian origin

http://www.babynameguide.com/categoryamerican.asp?strAlpha=E&strCat=American&strOrder=Name

you guyz a pretty correct on that, to me us americans are a non-anglo stock mainly.

Melunfarts :D

"The state Iowa gets its name from the Turkish words Ay-ova" :fart:

Abraham Lincoln = Ibrahim Limonkolonya

Bizim İbo başkan olmadan önce posta arabalarında muavinlik yapıyormuş. Sonra biriktirdiği parayla bir umumi tuvalet açmış. Ömrü millete kolonya dağıtmakla geçtiği için matematik öğretmeni ona "benim adım İbo, senin adın İbo, bu iş böyle olmayacak... Bundan böyle senin adın Ibrahim Limonkolonya" demiş. Gel zaman, git zaman, Amerikalıların dili dönmediğinden "Limonkolonya" da yavaş yavaş "Lincoln" olmuş. Derken bizim İbo tuvalet işinden çok zengin olmuş ve önce "Meluncan Lahmacun" fastfood zinciri, sonra da "Lincoln Imza" adlı bir araba fabrikası açarak parasına para, şöhretine şöhret katmış. Sonra siyasete atılmış ve ABD başkanı olmuş. Derken oradaki tuvalet mafyası onu vurmuş ve nalları dikmiş.

That's right they were mainly Ottoman Levents(sailors) that were taken as slaves by Spanish. :)

If you mean the Turks living in south America, you are wrong. Actually Mediterranean sea was always a Turkish lake until 18th century, thanks to Greeks. Turkish pirates were really active there. Even USA had to pay fee to Ottoman Empire for the security of her fleet.

These guys immigrated from arabic lands of Ottoman Empire in the beginning of 20 th century and went to South America. They are called El-Turco although they are not Turkish (for instance Carlos Menem, Shakira, Farid Camillo Mondragon, etc...). They are Arab. No Turk went there as far as I know. I remember, Mondragon and Shakira' s families are from Lebanon, Carlos Menem is from Syria.

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True.
That's what I read in a book too.

whats the relation between Turks, spaniards and portuguese?? NONE at all. I would like to know whats the relation talked in the fist post.

If you mean the Turks living in south America, you are wrong. Actually Mediterranean sea was always a Turkish lake until 18th century, thanks to Greeks. Turkish pirates were really active there. Even USA had to pay fee to Ottoman Empire for the security of her fleet.

These guys immigrated from arabic lands of Ottoman Empire in the beginning of 20 th century and went to South America. They are called El-Turco although they are not Turkish (for instance Carlos Menem, Shakira, Farid Camillo Mondragon, etc...). They are Arab. No Turk went there as far as I know. I remember, Mondragon and Shakira' s families are from Lebanon, Carlos Menem is from Syria.

yes, but most of them are "arabs" from the mediterranean countries, and most of them are christian. They were not muslin arabs. In fact, most of them are not ethnic arabs also. Most of them are pretty white, european looking (not ALL). Maybe they are descendants of the crusaders? :)