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ignoramus
June 16th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Please submit any
|1| photographs
|2| news
in which you might have depicting the latest developments at all the terminals of singapore changi airport (especially photographs and news with regards to the construction of terminal 3 and the upgrading of the facade and the interiors of terminal 2 at for instance the arrival/departure halls near the exits of the MRT Station). Thanks.

huaiwei
June 16th, 2004, 07:59 PM
Welcome to the forums, ignoramus! :cheers:

Here is a pano I took of Terminal 3's roof forming over the trees on 30th of May this year:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/28292.jpg

ignoramus
June 16th, 2004, 08:19 PM
You are definitely speaking my language huaiwei. That photo is stunning and its exactly what I have been searching for on the web for some time now but to no avail. I can just imagine how Terminal 3 will look like when it opens in 2008. It looks so much taller and bigger and more prominent than the other terminals. Somehow there is very little news on the developments at Changi Airport other than the occasional news release. Everything appears to be so secretive. The amount of information available appears to be too sparse for a project of such an immense scale. Also, the terminal seems way ahead of schedule for its opening in 2008. Don't think they need like more than 3 years to finish up whatever is left right. Hope they open it sooner and not just build it and leave it off limits to the public like Buangkok Station.

RafflesCity
June 16th, 2004, 08:20 PM
wow awesome pano! :eek2:

do you mind posting it in the Changi Terminal 3 thread at the Singapore forum huaiwei?

RafflesCity
June 16th, 2004, 08:22 PM
Hopefully theyll decide to open it sooner with the pickup in traffic:)

ignoramus
June 16th, 2004, 08:27 PM
Annual passenger arrivals are expected to hit 30 million in 2004. Unless it reaches 40 million anytime soon or at least somewhere in slightly above or below that number, don't think it makes much sense to open it anytime sooner. Like if they open it now we will only be utilising 30 million out of 64 million annual capacity. Sounds very wasteful. By the way, does anyone have any more photographs of this kind or any recent interior shots of the upgrades at Terminal 2? By the way do you live near the airport or something huaiwei, why do you always have so many photos to share with everyone?

huaiwei
June 16th, 2004, 08:43 PM
No I dont live near the airport, but I decided to pay the airport a visit after visiting the Navy open house. :D

Anyway, Changi has always built up way before passenger numbers have picked up? Remember that Terminal 2 opened long before Terminal 1 was even 80% full or something, or do any oen have Changi's passenger figures for 1990?

ignoramus
June 16th, 2004, 09:29 PM
In 1998 there were 23 million passenger movements and that means that about half of the 44 million passenger handling capacity of Changi Airport was utilised. That being so and if passenger numbers hit 32 million by end 2005 which is a high possibility, Terminal 3 could actually be opened on schedule in 2006. Then again when we think from this perspective, previously in 1998 there was only an excess capacity of 20 million. If opened as soon as 2006, there could be an excess capacity of 30 million which would make it seem very very wasteful. Its like by opening it in 2006 or around there excess capacity would be increased by a third when now with its current excess capacity is already enough to give Changi Airport that tranquil and comfortable image. With an excess capacity of 30 million, Changi Airport could be perceived by travellers to be very underutilised like a ghost airport of sorts. I must try to be objective. Then again, annual increases in passenger numbers have been rising at a rapid rate so I guess it would be very practical to open Terminal 3 in the very very near future, perhaps even by 2006. Personally, I hope that it would open soon. We need to give passengers a more modern and futuristic image of our airport.

huaiwei
June 16th, 2004, 10:19 PM
Hmm....but Changi has already been semi-empty, and that helps to make it feel more spacious then it really is? :D

Anyway, here is a "bibliography" of all the Singapore-related stuff in this section:

Singapore Airline's Longest Flights
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=109352

Budget Aviation
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=78221

Singapore Airlines (General)
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=86075

Changi Airport (General)
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=79274

Changi Airport (Service quality)
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=89938

Changi Airport Terminal 3
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=93971

ignoramus
June 16th, 2004, 11:03 PM
Well I guess being too empty isn't really all too good in a way. Okay thanks for the links and description on what aspects of Changi Airport each one talks about. Its now easier to find my way about. I often find links to Changi Airport discussion boards hidden in all sorts of places in SSC. There are just too many catagories to search through.

huaiwei
June 16th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Well I guess being too empty isn't really all too good in a way. Okay thanks for the links and description on what aspects of Changi Airport each one talks about. Its now easier to find my way about. I often find links to Changi Airport discussion boards hidden in all sorts of places in SSC. There are just too many catagories to search through.
Dont fret. Its pretty easy to find Singapore-related stuff here, for we took pains to consolidate the stuff into easy to find threads, which number no more then 10?

Anyhow, I seriously do not think Passenger levels will rise that quickly to, say, 40 million in 2008, and even your estimation of 32 million in 2005 seems a little optimistic? Looking at the growth patterns through the turbulant years of the previous 5 or so, the growth has been almost stagnant...and I dont think the world economy looks ready to stabilise for the next 5?

Or am I too pessimistic?

ignoramus
June 17th, 2004, 10:18 AM
hmm... with annual passenger numbers supposedly reaching 30 million this year and looking at the annual growth numbers prior to 2001, annual growth has actually been around 2 to 3 million on average. That being so, my estimation of 32 million annual passengers by end 2005 seemed like a rather realistic and perhaps even a rather modest figure. But like what you said, if the economy is still as turbulent for the next couple of years we will most certainly be stuck in the 28 million passengers annually range as we did back in 2001 to 2003. And this remains a high possibility as the New Bangkok International Airport will open next year and compete with us for airlines and flights ever so much stronger. Did anyone realize that the news about the economy and unemployment levels and airport traffic are very optimistic nowadays. Previously, the ministers used to give us such politically correct and cautious figures and predictions. Now, they appear to be constantly telling us good news with less emphasis on being caution. If that is true, good for us.

On another note, I hope that the design of the upgrades Terminals 1 & 2 fit in well to the design of the new terminal. I guess it would be good to have some sense of continuity in the designs so that all the terminals look not only unique to each other but also as though they belong to the same family of terminals. Hoping to get a shock when I visit Changi Airport tomorrow.

ignoramus
June 17th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Please submit any
|1| photographs
|2| news
in which you might have depicting the latest developments at all the terminals of singapore changi airport (especially photographs and news with regards to the construction of terminal 3 and the upgrading of the facade and the interiors of terminal 2 at for instance the arrival/departure halls near the exit of the MRT Station). Thanks.

babystan03
June 17th, 2004, 11:03 AM
Here are some of T2 developement works......pictures taken on wednesday(16/6/04)......

Extension of the viewing mall
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN12741.jpg

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN12761.jpg

Hope you find more surprises tomorrow, ignoramus. Take pictures of it .....:D

ignoramus
June 17th, 2004, 11:28 AM
What! You mean the airport authorities actually tore down the entire Terminal 2 Viewing Gallery? Can't really imagine how the upgraded/redeveloped Viewing Gallery will look like from these pictures though. But at least I now know that they are indeed doing something concrete to the structure rather than just adding in a few minor items here and there and then pass it off as being upgraded.

babystan03
June 17th, 2004, 12:02 PM
What! You mean the airport authorities actually tore down the entire Terminal 2 Viewing Gallery? Can't really imagine how the upgraded/redeveloped Viewing Gallery will look like from these pictures though. But at least I now know that they are indeed doing something concrete to the structure rather than just adding in a few minor items here and there and then pass it off as being upgraded.

Haha.....I think those structure look a little intimidating...haha....:D Actually they did not tear down the entire viewing mall but was merely extending the viewing mall outwards as seen in the second picture. They were adding floor space to the viewing mall area as well as the duty free area. Here's one picture to show that the T2 viewing mall is still intact(though half of the viewing mall was blocked due to upgrading works as seen in the picture below)....haha....:D

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN12781.jpg

RafflesCity
June 17th, 2004, 05:28 PM
wow..I didnt know they were extending the gallery. Should be great to get closer to the airplanes I guess. The sunflower garden is still there from the last time I checked :cheers:

huaiwei
June 17th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Stan, are you sure the gallery is being "extended?" Didnt they simply cut off half the exising gallery and upgrade it instead?

babystan03
June 17th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Stan, are you sure the gallery is being "extended?" Didnt they simply cut off half the exising gallery and upgrade it instead?

According to the way they add on those extra floor space, it is logical to think that the viewing mall would be extended as well or else they would be blocking the view, right??:D The part where they "cut off", I think they are going to re-open it as part of the viewing mall once the renovation is done.After which, they will renovate the other half of the viewing mall. Anyway, this is just my 2 cents, nothing mention about it officially though.

Anyway, an article about changi T2 upgrading suggest that "An area of 2,800 square meters will be added to the transit area for retail, food and beverage, landscape and seating facilities." I think thats the extension that we are seeing.

2003 Releases
30 Oct 2003
Terminal 2 Gets S$240 Million Facelift to Boost Changi's Aviation Hub Status

Minister for Transport Yeo Cheow Tong also announces new $40 million Growth Incentive Scheme for airlines during his tour of Changi Airport

Changi Airport's Terminal 2 (T2) will look brand new when its upgrading is completed in 2005. T2, which will be 15 years old by then, will see massive improvements to its design, making it even more user friendly to airport users and businesses. Costing S$240 million, the upgrading will also add capacity to the departure/transit lounge, enhancing Changi's position as an aviation hub in the region.
.........

The interior of T2 will also be re-organised to make it easier for airport users to find their way around. An area of 2,800 square meters will be added to the transit area for retail, food and beverage, landscape and seating facilities. There will also be improved facilities to make it easier for the elderly or disabled travellers to move about.

.........

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/changi/press_release_content.jsp?DYNAMIC_FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=9853823208128580&CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=10135298184839402&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302024381&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181068&bmUID=1087486665588

RafflesCity
June 17th, 2004, 05:53 PM
I'm glad that Changi doesnt ignore its older terminals even as it builds a brand new one, unlike *some* airhubs that build new terminals while the majority of passengers put up with the rotting ones.

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Changi Airport Terminal 1
Terminal 1 actually doesn't look as old as people say. Sure, it is old architectually. No striking curved roofs or prominent glass facades. But it is amazingly maintained in excellent shape. Everything is so spotless and new in its sense. Modern touches such as the plasma screens at the check in counters and the information boards have been added though. I especially like the boards which have flip as the arrival time changes etc. They are so cool. So much better than the plain LED ones found in most airports nowdays.

Changi Airport Terminal 2
The partially upgraded departure hall looks awesome! Bronze & grey flooring have replaced the formerly pale yellow tiles. The departure hall looks so sleek now and is better able to integrate architecturally with the modern design of the MRT Station. The choice of a mix of bronze & grey colours in the flooring not only looks sleek but also enhances the sense of cosyness that is found within the airport and recognised internationally for it. This is an aspect that other newer airport terminals seem to lack. They are just too grey and cold. New retail outlets have also been added at the western end. Its about time they did something about all the empty and cold spaces found throughout the airport, where a very large area can be seen only housing a money changer. Not only is there a better selection of goods and services available in the public areas now but also, the upgrade also makes these areas stand out and look better. The viewing mall as with what babystan03 has said has been partially blocked off. It is so pathetically small now. Well, the future looks bright though. I can tell that it will be both larger and more architecturally pleasing after the upgrades. And there's lots more to come. Every corner you turn, there's always something being upgraded. And the amazing thing is, the airport authorities have actually managed to not only keep pace with upgrading works but there is hardly any noise from the construction that can be heard at all. WOW! Could only catch a glimpse of the new terminal facade. Looks promising. The vertical wall of the terminal building at the First Class entrance has been upgraded and replaced with an entirely tinted glass panel. And the roof has also been partially upgraded and is no longer flat but rather curved.

Changi Airport Terminal 3
The ''holes'', that being the gaps between the steel pieces sticking out on the roof structure of Terminal 3 are gone! the entire roof structure is in place now! The skeleton is complete, though its just really only the skeleton. And the construction site is really very busy. As night fell, cranes can still be seen busily moving materials from one end to the other.

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Some pictures here to illustrate what you've said, Ignoramus.......:D

T1: Busy yet not crowded
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13331.jpg

T1 viewing mall: activities for the kids
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13241.jpg

T2: First class entrance(can see some of those T3 cranes in the background)
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13401.jpg

T2: Departure Hall( at the first departure gate)
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13371.jpg

T2: The "curve" roof
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13511.jpg

T2: Viewing mall extended
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13171.jpg

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 05:09 PM
I'm glad that Changi doesnt ignore its older terminals even as it builds a brand new one, unlike *some* airhubs that build new terminals while the majority of passengers put up with the rotting ones.
HAHAHA!!! I know which one you are implying! :D

RafflesCity
June 18th, 2004, 06:01 PM
HAHAHA!!! I know which one you are implying! :D

yup, that condescending bugger;)

btw they need a bigger digital clock!
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13331.jpg

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 06:05 PM
huaiwei & babystan03, I DON'T KNOW which airhub you are referring to... All I can do is guess...and it starts with a B?

And indeed, Terminal 1 was as usual very busy today with people moving about everywhere. Like what you said...it doesn't seem crowded at all somehow even though everywhere you look there's always someone there. If a place is crowded I WILL KNOW cause I get very irritated and flustered.

And it appears the Viewing Mall has become a favourite for kids to play about in. Last time it used to be an area where students study at, the hardworking students that is. Terminal 2's Viewing Mall was very noisy today.

Didn't manage to catch that nice view of the new facade from which you took the pictures from. Apparently I think they started blocking off that area today again. Only caught a glimpse of the edge of one of the curved roof structures and one pathetic section of the glass facade. Somehow the new facade reminds me of the one at HKIA. Though this one is a tad nicer cause it sticks out towards you. The one at HKIA sticks upwards.

I wasn't referring to that curved roof when I mentioned that but rather I was referring to the exterior curved roof. Anyways where was that curved roof taken from. Didn't see it at all. Looks ultra classy.

And its amazing how they manage to upgrade an old terminal dating back to the early 1990s with such seemingly little effort. They have managed to integrate everything well. Though that the upgrade would initially cause a lot of disturbances and that the newer upgraded portions would not fit well into the design of the terminal. I was wrong.

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 06:18 PM
huaiwei & babystan03, I DON'T KNOW which airhub you are referring to... All I can do is guess...and it starts with a B?

And indeed, Terminal 1 was as usual very busy today with people moving about everywhere. Like what you said...it doesn't seem crowded at all somehow even though everywhere you look there's always someone there. If a place is crowded I WILL KNOW cause I get very irritated and flustered.

And it appears the Viewing Mall has become a favourite for kids to play about in. Last time it used to be an area where students study at, the hardworking students that is. Terminal 2's Viewing Mall was very noisy today.

Didn't manage to catch that nice view of the new facade from which you took the pictures from. Apparently I think they started blocking off that area today again. Only caught a glimpse of the edge of one of the curved roof structures and one pathetic section of the glass facade. Somehow the new facade reminds me of the one at HKIA. Though this one is a tad nicer cause it sticks out towards you. The one at HKIA sticks upwards.

I wasn't referring to that curved roof when I mentioned that but rather I was referring to the exterior curved roof. Anyways where was that curved roof taken from. Didn't see it at all. Looks ultra classy.

And its amazing how they manage to upgrade an old terminal dating back to the early 1990s with such seemingly little effort. They have managed to integrate everything well. Though that the upgrade would initially cause a lot of disturbances and that the newer upgraded portions would not fit well into the design of the terminal. I was wrong.

Feel like a H hub to me......:D

And yes, the viewing malls in both terminal is filled with "screams" today......very noisy....... haha...The airport seems more like a community centre......:D

They sealed the area, strange?? what time did you go?? I took the picture around 4 plus today......

The curve roof was taken at the second storey of the newly refurbished part. It was the area that leads to the new restuarants. Just go up those escalators near starbucks and you'll see those "curvy" roofs.

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 06:19 PM
huaiwei & babystan03, I DON'T KNOW which airhub you are referring to... All I can do is guess...and it starts with a B?
I think it was Rafflescity and me? :D Anyway its not B....

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I think it was Rafflescity and me? :D Anyway its not B....

Yes forgot to mention.....haha.....not me......:D

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 06:21 PM
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13241.jpg

That's the brown tiles I was bitching about in another thread!!! :bash: :D

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 06:48 PM
I have read that thread of yours huaiwei. Indeed those brown tiles are horrendously ugly and look like those brown tiles that you would find at the lift lobbies of most of the older HDB blocks dating back to 1970s or 1980s. Ever wonder who set the trend for such widespread use of such ugly tiles back then?

Okay my mistake. It was RafflesCity and huaiwei. Anyways since it starts with a H there can be only one. But I don't quite get it. Was that airport that unmaintained before the new terminal/airport was constructed?

Yes. The airport does not even feel like an airport at times. Took the MRT there today. The train was filled with more ''nothing to do-ers'' than actual travellers. Wonder if this is unique to Singapore or do people in other countries have nothing else better to do too.

Oh I didn't notice those escalators. I was too busy looking at the floor. What the... Oh they have new trolleys now. Looks funkier. Has Samsung advertisements all over them.

I was there at about 5pm. I guess they didn't really seal off the area entirely. Well my experience there was that I couldn't really see the new facade and the new roof at all until I stepped neared right onto the path of alighting First Class passengers because on either sides white boards had been put up. So that First Class entrance was actually quite confined. That was the only place I could actually see the facade. The other places that I looked were still not upgraded. Especially the old entrances to the terminal. They are so dark. Saw the new entrance. So glassy and bright.

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Oh ya I still enjoyed the ride on the Skytrain after so long. There's just this appeal in riding it. And the announcement ''This train will now leave for Terminal 2'' or something like that. The voice was sort of blurred, thus showing signs of age but it was kinda funky? Can't believe they only ordered for 3 vehicles in the past. Today all was put into service, with 2 coupled vehicles serving the public and the third serving travellers, and it was quite crowded.

Totally unrelated, is it just me or is the weather pretty cool tonight?

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Yes. The airport does not even feel like an airport at times. Took the MRT there today. The train was filled with more ''nothing to do-ers'' than actual travellers. Wonder if this is unique to Singapore or do people in other countries have nothing else better to do too.


Muhahahaaha......that's me(''nothing to do-ers'' ).....:D Anyway, I always get to the airport by MRT too and this view never fails to brighten up my day.......

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN12981.jpg

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Changi Airport Terminal 3
The ''holes'', that being the gaps between the steel pieces sticking out on the roof structure of Terminal 3 are gone! the entire roof structure is in place now! The skeleton is complete, though its just really only the skeleton. And the construction site is really very busy. As night fell, cranes can still be seen busily moving materials from one end to the other.
Interesting! You mean the roof is now clearly a full rectangular box? That is surprisingly quick! You have a picture of it?

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 07:17 PM
babystan03 - The mezzanine is very nice! Too bad it ain't open yet. And since Terminal 3 will only open in 2008. That means at least 3 more years of not being able to look down onto the platform from it. But the mezzanine is like the star attraction of the entire station. Oh ya the escalators leading from the MRT station to the Departure Hall were closed today. A lot of travellers had to contend with squeezing into the 4 lifts available. And it was quite a long wait. Apparently I saw this guy taking pictures of the shattered glass way above everyone high up in the glass facade of the atrium near the ceiling. The shattered fragments didn't fall though, its shattered but its still in one piece. But to be safe, the closed off the area. Deja Vu. Didn't some glass piece shatter not too long ago too?

huaiwei - No pictures...sorry...unfortunately my camera has been damaged for quite some time now. Darned.

And just in case you get the wrong idea from my bad description, what I meant that the roof skeleton has been completed was that (Look at my primitive attempt at a diagram below)
Now (Horizontal view of the roof)
|------------|-------------|---------------|--------------|--------------|
Formerly it was
|------------|NO BEAM......|---------------|--------------|NO BEAM........|

I could be wrong. Dont think I am...I remember seeing that the outline of the roof was straight already and like what you said, a box. But its still quite a long way to completion. Its seriously a skeleton now. Only steel beams seen. Like ice cream sticks. There's so much to be done. Darned again.

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 07:23 PM
Oh ya I still enjoyed the ride on the Skytrain after so long. There's just this appeal in riding it. And the announcement ''This train will now leave for Terminal 2'' or something like that. The voice was sort of blurred, thus showing signs of age but it was kinda funky? Can't believe they only ordered for 3 vehicles in the past. Today all was put into service, with 2 coupled vehicles serving the public and the third serving travellers, and it was quite crowded.

Totally unrelated, is it just me or is the weather pretty cool tonight?

Yup it seems pretty cool tonight.....Cool.....:D

The skytrain was crowded today....though the use of 2 coupled vehicles does alleviates things a bit......Yes the skytrain has been a little old but it has serve us well for 15 years?? :D

So watch out....here comes the "old" and "clumsy" skytrain, haha....:D
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN0339.jpg

Ermm....I didn't took those lifts though.....I went to the MRT station from the arrival hall instead...:D

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Apparently I saw this guy taking pictures of the shattered glass way above everyone high up in the glass facade of the atrium near the ceiling. The shattered fragments didn't fall though, its shattered but its still in one piece. But to be safe, the closed off the area. Deja Vu. Didn't some glass piece shatter not too long ago too?
What? The glass shattered yet again?? I wonder why we keep having glass shattering incidents here...from HDB toilets to this! :D

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Anyway, here are more views of the T2 upgrading for the front facade:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829DSC05658.jpg

Almost the same view as stan's: the completed front facade. Notice they boarded up the part on the left for the next segment being upgraded.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829DSC05659.jpg

View of the other end of the under-construction area from the old front facade.

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 07:35 PM
What? The glass shattered yet again?? I wonder why we keep having glass shattering incidents here...from HDB toilets to this! :D

The weather too hot lately??? Or was it due to those high pitch screams from the kids???? :D

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 07:39 PM
And just in case you get the wrong idea from my bad description, what I meant that the roof skeleton has been completed was that (Look at my primitive attempt at a diagram below)
Now (Horizontal view of the roof)
|------------|-------------|---------------|--------------|--------------|
Formerly it was
|------------|NO BEAM......|---------------|--------------|NO BEAM........|

I could be wrong. Dont think I am...I remember seeing that the outline of the roof was straight already and like what you said, a box. But its still quite a long way to completion. Its seriously a skeleton now. Only steel beams seen. Like ice cream sticks. There's so much to be done. Darned again.
Er...I was trying to refer to my pano in the thread, and I still have some problems trying to visualise what you are trying to say! Sorry.....:bow:

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 07:55 PM
Well...the weather has been VERY VERY VERY VERY HOT nowadays and well...the kids have been SCREAMING THEIR SMALL HEADS off so I guess it is perfectly fine to blame it on these two factors for the shattering of the glass. By the way this same section of the MRT Station was also closed off a couple of months back. Apparently this guy fell to his death. Don't know whether it was suicide or not. This section is just plagued with problems.

Now that pic of Terminal 2's facade is brilliant. When the facade is eventually completed (Anyone knows when?), I don't think anyone can tell just by looking at the facade that Terminal 2 was an upgraded terminal but rather they might actually mistaken it as a newly constructed terminal. I can't tell. It looks as good as KLIA and HKIA, even better perhaps. Wow you can really look outside of the terminal now. Its all glass I can't believe it. And I can't believe the roof actually has a shape now. The contrast with the second pic is really astonishing. And the entrance at the bottom of the pic. That's the entrance I was talking about. The old entrances had reflective glass on the inside and dark glass on the outside. You can never see through anything. Any when you are in between the two entrances, it is absolutely dark. Contrast that with this, amazing. Everything about the facade is nice. I hope all terminals get a unique modern touch, after all we can't have everything the same with Terminal 3 being constructed differently. But it won't hurt to have 3 different designs. So cool. Changi Airport - Home Of 3 Different Flavours, the only airport in Asia to have them. Terminal 1 looks upgraded cause when they changed the facade they didn't change the roof. It didn't match. I can't say the same for this.

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 07:59 PM
Three different designs, but one big inter-connected airport! :D

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v94/huaiwei/Maps/afca404a.jpg

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 07:59 PM
Okay I have found a better way to explain what I observed. Refer to your pano.

In your pano one could see 6 fingers sticking out from the roof right, with holes in between them...the holes in between them are now the fingers too. So the result is a rectangle of sorts from the top. Get it? That was more or less what I saw. When you do go to the airport again tell me if I was right or did I see something wrongly...I miss the airport already even though I had only just returned from it 6 hours ago.

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 08:03 PM
Okay I have found a better way to explain what I observed. Refer to your pano.

In your pano one could see 6 fingers sticking out from the roof right, with holes in between them...the holes in between them are now the fingers too. So the result is a rectangle of sorts from the top. Get it? That was more or less what I saw. When you do go to the airport again tell me if I was right or did I see something wrongly...I miss the airport already even though I had only just returned from it 6 hours ago.
Oh...that was what I guessed earlier. So you mean basically it is a straight line right across the whole roof? If so, it is very fast indeed! :)

ignoramus
June 18th, 2004, 08:12 PM
The speed's alright. Don't think it takes that long to install additional steel beams onto the roof. What's the next stage after this? Can't be pouring concrete right. Terminal 3's all full of glass. Then they can't be installing glass that quick right. I seriously don't know what does into a building... Can't do the math can't do the physics...

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 08:13 PM
And one last thing i notice today, more eating places at T2........:D

Burger King: located right outside the entrance of the MRT station.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13451.jpg

Swensens: at the arrival hall.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13521.jpg

Escalator(on the left) leading to more restaurants at the new viewing mall
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13421.jpg

New restaurant opening soon.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13461.jpg

Food park: seems like a food court.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13481.jpg

Sakae Sushi
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13471.jpg

RafflesCity
June 18th, 2004, 08:24 PM
Quite a lot of food offering different cuisines! One can literally spend a whole day there. Imagine if T3 is completed you can be going round and round :D

huaiwei
June 18th, 2004, 08:34 PM
Btw, this must be the glass that broke? :D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/28291.jpg

ignoramus
June 19th, 2004, 10:46 AM
huaiwei - Yes, high up above the escalators to the right of your picture, almost at the ceiling. A rectangular sheet of glass shattered and all three escalators leading to the departure hall were sealed off.

babystan03 - Is Swensens where the Burger King was once located? The New Viewing Mall is open together with the new restaurants?

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 10:53 AM
babystan03 - Is Swensens where the Burger King was once located? The New Viewing Mall is open together with the new restaurants?

Dun think so....Swensen was previously located on the viewing mall. Previously can see the whole departure hall from Swensen T2. As for the new viewing mall area, i think the restaurants will open first since i dun think they will finish the viewing mall renovation so soon.

@Huaiwei: Btw, that pano is jaw-dropping.......:eek2:..........:D

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 11:08 AM
Pictures of T3 construction: taken from the passage leading from the "secret" food court to the viewing mall in T2. Can see whats underneath those structures......:D

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13701.jpg

ignoramus
June 19th, 2004, 11:28 AM
Woah... The basic exterior structure is apparently completed. And it appears that they are constucting the basic interior structures as well. In no time at all, they will be going into the finer details of the project which will take some time and after that, finally it will be open (Unless they really stick to their 2008 target). Have they started on the new People Mover System yet?

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 11:51 AM
Woah... The basic exterior structure is apparently completed. And it appears that they are constucting the basic interior structures as well. In no time at all, they will be going into the finer details of the project which will take some time and after that, finally it will be open (Unless they really stick to their 2008 target). Have they started on the new People Mover System yet?

Yes they have started with the People Mover. Can see all the pillars for the new track from T1 and from the skytrains. Yes the basic exterior structure is done but this is only about 20% of the whole construction(information from friends working at the airport,not textbooks answers....:D).

Towards the left of the structure, you can see that there are still a lot of construction going on.......

Block by a "stupid" lamppost....... :bash: :D
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13711.jpg

A more detailed picture of the above, taken from the small window panel of the staircase connecting the T2 food court to the viewing mall.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13671.jpg

More constructions towards the left, also taken from the small window panel ........:
1.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13681.jpg

2.
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13691.jpg

huaiwei
June 19th, 2004, 02:31 PM
Woah!!! Exclusive pictures taken from the wierdest corners!!! :eek:!

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 02:38 PM
Woah!!! Exclusive pictures taken from the wierdest corners!!! :eek:!

Haha.....maybe I should charge a copyright fee.... ;) :grouphug:

huaiwei
June 19th, 2004, 02:52 PM
Muahahaha

Yes they have started with the People Mover. Can see all the pillars for the new track from T1 and from the skytrains. Yes the basic exterior structure is done but this is only about 20% of the whole construction(information from friends working at the airport,not textbooks answers....:D).

Hey I tot you said this information is insider secrets! :D

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 02:59 PM
Muahahaha

Hey I tot you said this information is insider secrets! :D

Haha...well, I have to get their permission first,right??..:D

heirloom
June 19th, 2004, 03:05 PM
wow looks like i'm in for a visual suprrise in july! can't wait to see what terminal 2 looks like then. terminal 1 looks like a hospital haha. no pictures of any visual changes (if any) to t1? i have to comment that although changi has been ugly for many years, their attention to detail really puts it high above many airports. i absolutely cannot stand squeaky trolley wheels or trolleys that seem to be intent on going every direction except the one i'm going. were the new trolleys there in april? i dont remember what trolley i was using, but it was gliding silently as all trolleys should :)

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 03:16 PM
Hospital?? hahaha......But I do feel that the airport has become a bit like community centres....... :lol:

People "relaxing" and chatting at T1 viewing mall area
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13781.jpg

Not much change at T1 though, maybe subtle ones like signage....hmmm....looks like they heard HW "bitching".........:D
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13801.jpg

heirloom
June 19th, 2004, 03:30 PM
yeah... students like to study there too.. i once got pulled along to some study session (although i wasn't in school) and kept sleeping (cos i was the only one with nothing to study) and waking up feeling like my heart has chilled to death... making the airport so cold is rather clever as freezing students are made to buy and buy and buy hot chocolates from the cafes... i ended up going outside for a brief stroll or using the hand drier in the toilet..


whats different about signage?

i thougtht the 240 milllion renovation includes t1 as well? or is it going to be a budget terminal?

Hitesh
June 19th, 2004, 03:34 PM
Wow, you guys have put up some really nice photos.
Regarding that photo Huawei posted with the glass shattering, where is that? It looks brilliant.

I didn't know they had closed the outdoor viewing deck. We are talking about this one right?
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v290/hitesh_g/Changi_Outdoor.jpg
I love that area. Every time I am in Changi I sit there under the mist fan.
Now I will have nothing to do when im there in 2 weeks.....except spend money, which I have none of at the moment.

edit: Does anyone know if they sell iPods in Changi duty free? I figure it will be cheaper there than anywhere else.

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 03:42 PM
whats different about signage?

i thougtht the 240 milllion renovation includes t1 as well? or is it going to be a budget terminal?

Emmm, they added more languages to it?? :)

The T1 renovation will start only after the whole T2 renovation is done....so will have to wait for a while......

heirloom
June 19th, 2004, 03:43 PM
no idea - i think singaporeans would know least what their airport has because they don't bother exploring since we think it's 'just there', can find out anytime..

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 03:50 PM
Wow, you guys have put up some really nice photos.
Regarding that photo Huawei posted with the glass shattering, where is that? It looks brilliant.

edit: Does anyone know if they sell iPods in Changi duty free? I figure it will be cheaper there than anywhere else.

That would be the entrance to the MRT station in Terminal 2.

I don't think they close the viewing deck at the transit area.....the one affected is the public viewing mall....:)

I guess they are selling it since they place it on the shopping page......you can refer to it....:) (look under pre-order shopping-electronics)

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/changi/level3_external_no_header.jsp?ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181065&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302023743&bmUID=1087652843094

Hitesh
June 19th, 2004, 04:10 PM
thanks a lot for the link babystan03.
it really helps me a lot. :cheers:

heirloom
June 19th, 2004, 04:18 PM
hrmm it really is cheaper! $16 cheaper than at a singapore apple store

huaiwei
June 19th, 2004, 05:12 PM
Wow, you guys have put up some really nice photos.
Regarding that photo Huawei posted with the glass shattering, where is that? It looks brilliant.

I didn't know they had closed the outdoor viewing deck. We are talking about this one right?
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v290/hitesh_g/Changi_Outdoor.jpg
I love that area. Every time I am in Changi I sit there under the mist fan.
Now I will have nothing to do when im there in 2 weeks.....except spend money, which I have none of at the moment.

edit: Does anyone know if they sell iPods in Changi duty free? I figure it will be cheaper there than anywhere else.
Very beautiful picture you have there, but be rest assured the closure has nothing to do with this part of the airport! As Stan sayed, its the public viewing gallery indoors which is half-closed. :)

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Happen to come across this "antique" clock at the airport, care to guess where it's located??? :D

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13791.jpg

heirloom
June 19th, 2004, 06:56 PM
flip clocks are the best:D so retro... the whirring when it flips is so soothing...

thats... near the aquarium?

huaiwei
June 19th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Er...T1 viewing gallery...muahahahah :D

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 07:20 PM
Haha.....yah....it was T1 viewing mall......:D

Haha....if thats easy, try this.......where are these photos taken????:D (dun be surprised, they are located within the airport area.)

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13661.jpg

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13821.jpg

RafflesCity
June 19th, 2004, 07:21 PM
I didn't know they had closed the outdoor viewing deck. We are talking about this one right?
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v290/hitesh_g/Changi_Outdoor.jpg
I love that area. Every time I am in Changi I sit there under the mist fan.
Now I will have nothing to do when im there in 2 weeks.....except spend money, which I have none of at the moment.


Thats also the smoking area. I am there before a flight :D

@babystan, great pics of the construction progress!!!!!

can you also please add them to the Changi T3 thread in Sg forum? Thanks:)

babystan03
June 19th, 2004, 07:30 PM
@babystan, great pics of the construction progress!!!!!

can you also please add them to the Changi T3 thread in Sg forum? Thanks:)

Done.....and thanks for the compliment.....:D

Hitesh
June 19th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Yea me too Rafflescity. Theres nothing better than a cigarette after a a long flight.......and if its duty free from Changi where everything is ridiculously cheap its even better.

RafflesCity
June 19th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Thanks....

Well now we can have more regular updates on T3's construction progress :D

RafflesCity
June 19th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Yea me too Rafflescity. Theres nothing better than a cigarette after a a long flight.......and if its duty free from Changi where everything is ridiculously cheap its even better.

or just before a long one too :D

There is also an indoor smoking room for air-con comfort but 'fresh' air is better LOL

I have 1 or 2 pics from that area but still havent uploaded it.

ignoramus
June 19th, 2004, 08:20 PM
babystan03 - Thats the Singaporeans only food court of course. Only Singaporeans know the location of this magical place. It serves great tasty fish ball noodles...yumz...

ignoramus
June 19th, 2004, 08:28 PM
I really do hope that the airport authorities decide to keep these flipping devices like the giant departure information boards and the clocks. Very nice touch to an airport terminal that is otherwise being rapidly modernised. Such touches will help to contribute to the sense of cosyness in the airport. Thats my impression anyways. If everything around is all so modern the terminal will lack character as with all the other new airports in the world. Too many high tech devices to me makes the place feel damn cold. Like it has no history.

huaiwei
June 19th, 2004, 08:34 PM
Haha.....yah....it was T1 viewing mall......:D

Haha....if thats easy, try this.......where are these photos taken????:D (dun be surprised, they are located within the airport area.)

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13661.jpg
To be more technically specific, that has got to be the Staff Canteen at T2. ;)

And yeah....I suppose we have to return the trays by stacking them on the auxiliary cop's head? :D

ignoramus
June 19th, 2004, 08:38 PM
It's a staff canteen? I thought staff canteens are usually off limits to the public.

Didnt notice that sign there. Haha...real funny...

What's the diff between an aux cop and other cops? they look like cisco officers to me...

heirloom
June 19th, 2004, 08:48 PM
arent flip boards electronic? they'll probably keep them as long as they're efficient...

huaiwei
June 19th, 2004, 09:16 PM
It's a staff canteen? I thought staff canteens are usually off limits to the public.

Didnt notice that sign there. Haha...real funny...

What's the diff between an aux cop and other cops? they look like cisco officers to me...
It is a staff canteen by name, but it serves the public too. Once we were able to buy really cheap food there, because it is subsidised, but I think they realised lots of typical kiasu singaporeans took advantage of that. So now they have two prices..one for staff and one for the public! But even then, the public prices are still very reasonable! :D

As for the cops, well...The airport actually has 4 sets of security members from 4 different organisations. (actually I think its 3, but some say 4) The easiest to spot will of coz be your regular cops, who are part of the Airport Police division. But you wont see them that often in the airport, although it you are really lucky, you might spot them gliding around on their segway! ;) Anyway, there are some patrolling with the army guys from the SOC too of coz...

Next, there are two main ground handlers here, each with their own security staff. The ones you see in the picture above (with their shirt and pants in dark blue, but the shirt is slightly off-colour as thou they accidentally bleached it) are from the Changi International Airport Services (CIAS), which will soon be managed by Aetos, a new Temasek owned company forumed to compete with Cisco. It was onced owned by about 4 airlines and another company, which I cant remember which now. The ones in sky blue shirts and dark blue pants are from Singapore Airport Terminal Services (SATS), which is owned by Singapore Airlines.

The 4th one which I am most unclear off could be the Cisco cops themselves, only identifiable if you have a keen eye and know where to look to differentiate them. :D They have the same uniform colour as the regulars, but their badges are metal (instead of embroidered), and there is a thin white border around their name tags. They sometimes also have long sleeved shirts which are folded up. The thing is I dont seem to recall seeing any of them in the airport terminal premises. My friend was telling me they could be the ones in dark blue pants, white long sleeved shirts and with a tie?

Not so sure, but for a place like the Airport having so many different organisations doing the same thing...it can be confusing! :D

babystan03
June 20th, 2004, 12:30 AM
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13821.jpg

Ermmm.....how about this???Can guess?? Did anybody notice the subtle difference in this compared to the first picture in the thread#70???

babystan03
June 20th, 2004, 12:32 AM
To be more technically specific, that has got to be the Staff Canteen at T2. ;)

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13661.jpg

And yeah....I suppose we have to return the trays by stacking them on the auxiliary cop's head? :D

Muahahaha.......I dun think he will like that idea at all........ :bash: :D

huaiwei
June 20th, 2004, 12:36 AM
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13821.jpg

Ermmm.....how about this???Can guess?? Did anybody notice the subtle difference in this compared to the first picture in the thread#70???
Dont tell me this is T1 ah? I have never been there yet.....

babystan03
June 20th, 2004, 11:22 AM
Some renderings found on the net about Changi T2 upgrading....... :)
http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/airport-projects.htm

http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/image/changiterminal2a.jpg

http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/image/changiterminal2b.jpg

ignoramus
June 20th, 2004, 11:28 AM
Looks like there's still A LOT left to be upgraded. Wonder how long more will it take... But the final product is impressive, it really looks like a brand new terminal. Woah they really tore apart the roof!

babystan03
June 20th, 2004, 11:35 AM
Looks like there's still A LOT left to be upgraded. Wonder how long more will it take... But the final product is impressive, it really looks like a brand new terminal. Woah they really tore apart the roof!

Ermmm....the official date to finish the T2 upgrading is end 2005 so I dun think it'll be too long.........:D

babystan03
June 21st, 2004, 03:23 AM
Dont tell me this is T1 ah? I have never been there yet.....

Haha....surprise surprise.....:D

Here's some pictures to confirm your answer.......

Notice what those words on the left(red) says??? haha.....looks like a lot of ppl never read that.....:D
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13811.jpg

Dun worry about the "ghostly" shadow in the glass, just concentrate on the words......haha....:D
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13841.jpg

huaiwei
June 21st, 2004, 04:09 AM
Some renderings found on the net about Changi T2 upgrading....... :)
http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/airport-projects.htm

http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/image/changiterminal2a.jpg

http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/image/changiterminal2b.jpg
My God....how in the world do they do THAT?!?! :eek: :eek:

babystan03
June 21st, 2004, 04:12 AM
My God....how in the world do they do THAT?!?! :eek: :eek:

Haha....looks "unbelieveable" right?? I was asking the same question after I compare it with the present T2.......:D

heirloom
June 21st, 2004, 11:11 AM
looks quite pretty compared to now... such things should be done more often...

huaiwei
June 22nd, 2004, 03:53 AM
looks quite pretty compared to now... such things should be done more often...
Well, there is still T1 to consider when they finally upgrade that grandmother of Asian airports! ;)

babystan03
June 22nd, 2004, 05:38 AM
Well, there is still T1 to consider when they finally upgrade that grandmother of Asian airports! ;)

Haha....they will after T2 finish renovating.....no further plans revealed although I'll like to see T1 getting a "facelift", turning it from 23 years old to 3??? :D

eyetoeye
June 22nd, 2004, 05:57 AM
Some renderings found on the net about Changi T2 upgrading....... :)
http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/airport-projects.htm

http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/image/changiterminal2a.jpg

http://www.talbotconsultants.com/projects/image/changiterminal2b.jpg

Amazing! Can't wait to see it. Pity, though, because i don't often get a chance to visit the airport. No reason to.

RafflesCity
June 22nd, 2004, 05:59 AM
yes it does look amazing..I can imagine the amount of work to be done to 'open up' the roof.

eyetoeye
June 22nd, 2004, 06:07 AM
Three different designs, but one big inter-connected airport! :D

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v94/huaiwei/Maps/afca404a.jpg

Btw. Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but it's possible to walk from one end of T1 to the extreme end of T2 via one long, CONTINUOUS corridor that's usually only used by staff but perfectly open to the public.

My mom, siblings end i tried it once and were thoroughly freaked out when we walked for about 10 minutes but were still far from any exit! :lol:

babystan03
June 22nd, 2004, 08:54 AM
Btw. Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but it's possible to walk from one end of T1 to the extreme end of T2 via one long, CONTINUOUS corridor that's usually only used by staff but perfectly open to the public.

My mom, siblings end i tried it once and were thoroughly freaked out when we walked for about 10 minutes but were still far from any exit! :lol:

Haha.......I've try that b4......it was freaking LONGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

babystan03
June 22nd, 2004, 09:00 AM
Amazing! Can't wait to see it. Pity, though, because i don't often get a chance to visit the airport. No reason to.

No reason to??? Here's one very good reason.....take pictures.......:D

eyetoeye
June 22nd, 2004, 12:21 PM
Not good enough a reason for me, i'm afraid. I'm a very lazy person.

heirloom
June 22nd, 2004, 12:29 PM
maybe can go there study for o levels with friends haha and freeze to death.

eyetoeye
June 23rd, 2004, 05:20 AM
maybe can go there study for o levels with friends haha and freeze to death.

1. I don't usually group-study. It's too easy to get distracted.
2. Even if i do group study, i usually prefer to do it at someone's home or in school. Fast-foof outlets and other misc. places are too distracting.
3. Is it that cold at the airport?

heirloom
June 23rd, 2004, 05:22 AM
same i dont do group study haha i was just lured to the study by someone's harry potter book :p

it is that cold at 3 am or something if you fall asleep and your metabolism slows to a crawl.

huaiwei
June 23rd, 2004, 09:10 AM
Btw. Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but it's possible to walk from one end of T1 to the extreme end of T2 via one long, CONTINUOUS corridor that's usually only used by staff but perfectly open to the public.

My mom, siblings end i tried it once and were thoroughly freaked out when we walked for about 10 minutes but were still far from any exit! :lol:
You must be walking really slowly? :D

Anyway, thank God most people dont have to walk that distance at all anyway, since you can just take the skytrain. And looking at the way the airport is configured, its also quite obvious you dont really have to walk that far to any pier!

babystan03
June 23rd, 2004, 09:17 AM
^
Yah....no doubt the passage is long.....but I remember taking just 12-13mins to reach T1 from T2......... :)

heirloom
June 23rd, 2004, 12:17 PM
'far' is quite subjective... walking to end of a terminal 2 pier was quite exhausting for me. ok not exhausting but irritatingly long.

babystan03
June 23rd, 2004, 04:32 PM
Duty free area in T2 engaging in Euro cup fever
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13751.jpg

eyetoeye
June 24th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Well yeah. It wasn't very long to me, since i usually walk long distances anyway, but it was pretty darn irritating to see nothing but white walls everywhere.

huaiwei
June 26th, 2004, 08:49 AM
^
Yah....no doubt the passage is long.....but I remember taking just 12-13mins to reach T1 from T2......... :)
Btw, there were travellelators between the two Terminals, I tought? I remember seeing a really old terminal plan of the two before, and I tot I saw something which looks like it. Or maybe I was mistaken? :?

babystan03
June 26th, 2004, 08:51 AM
Btw, there were travellelators between the two Terminals, I tought? I remember seeing a really old terminal plan of the two before, and I tot I saw something which looks like it. Or maybe I was mistaken? :?

Dun think they got any travellator in the public area, not that I know of......travellator is only found in the duty free area......... :)

huaiwei
June 26th, 2004, 09:10 AM
Dun think they got any travellator in the public area, not that I know of......travellator is only found in the duty free area......... :)
I see...so its just a plain boring corridoor with no windows and all? Maybe tt is why it freaks some ppl out! :D

eyetoeye
June 27th, 2004, 02:50 AM
I see...so its just a plain boring corridoor with no windows and all? Maybe tt is why it freaks some ppl out! :D

You can go running and running and - if you have a good imagination - 'never' find the end of it.

RafflesCity
June 27th, 2004, 08:42 PM
Terminal 3 update

27 June 2004

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/ssc1819/changi27.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/ssc1819/changi27a.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/ssc1819/changi27b.jpg

btw T2 was very crowded this afternoon :)

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 03:49 AM
^
Woah....this is a really exclusive view....:eek:...Now we can see what happening at the back........:D

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 07:20 AM
Another interesting view of the T3 construction (T2 carpark near Changi MRT station, 28/6/04).....:D

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14731.jpg

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14721.jpg

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14671.jpg

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 08:24 AM
Automatic People Mover Construction update (28/6/04, taken from the emergency exit of the "secret" walkway.....:D)

Pillars erecting at T1 carpark

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14601.jpg

RafflesCity
June 28th, 2004, 03:53 PM
does the people-mover connect T2 directly with T3 and will it be above ground? It looks quite exciting travelling through the 'air' like that :)

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 03:59 PM
^
Yes, it will be linked directly. In fact the new system will have two stations in Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 and three stations in Terminal 3. It will be elevated.

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 05:07 PM
You can go running and running and - if you have a good imagination - 'never' find the end of it.

Your imagination ends here.....here are the "real thing".....haha....:D

It begins at this part of T1 which leads to the airline offices
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14531.jpg

Got some windows at the corridor
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14591.jpg

Long stretches of airline office
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14632.jpg

This is the scary part.....long long corridor with absolutely nothing???
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14651.jpg

heirloom
June 28th, 2004, 05:18 PM
ah... you can barely see the yellow light at the end of the tunnel...

huaiwei
June 28th, 2004, 06:02 PM
Hahahaa....where does Terminal 1 end and Terminal 2 start? :D

heirloom
June 28th, 2004, 06:08 PM
i suppose where the corridor starts and ends?

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 06:16 PM
Here's the answer.....can see very clearly where the boundaries(T1 end and T2 starts) are....:D

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v94/huaiwei/Maps/afca404a.jpg

According to the map, half of the corridor is T1 and the other half is T2.....:)

huaiwei
June 28th, 2004, 06:24 PM
Aiyoh.....I am talking about those corridors!! How in the world are we to noe which part of the map are those photos taken from?? :bash:

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 06:31 PM
^
Walking from T1 to T2 that can only be one route what........:D

The point where T1 ends and T2 starts would be the beginning of picture 4(estimation)........

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14651.jpg

huaiwei
June 28th, 2004, 06:49 PM
I just want to noe which corridor belongs to which terminal lah...:D

Anyway, I think this thrread title needs to be edited to better reflect the stuff we are showing here...lots of precious gems! Any ideas?

babystan03
June 28th, 2004, 06:59 PM
^
The other side of Changi Airport??? or Little known facts about Changi??:)

Haha...I hope you've got your answer. I was quite "stunned" when i see your question as it never cross my mind when I was walking through those corridors......:D

huaiwei
June 28th, 2004, 08:24 PM
Erm...it the construction photos and updates which are in here that makes this thread special! :D

babystan03
June 29th, 2004, 04:10 AM
^
Chey.....what a waste......I shouldn't have taken those "secret" corners..... :cry: :wallbash:

As for the title, maybe "Changi Revolution".......haha.....:D

eyetoeye
June 29th, 2004, 09:54 AM
^
Walking from T1 to T2 that can only be one route what........:D

The point where T1 ends and T2 starts would be the beginning of picture 4(estimation)........

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14651.jpg

You actually took a photo of the cursed thing?! You're either a crazy fanatic or have way too much space on your digital camera....

babystan03
June 29th, 2004, 10:07 AM
^
I'm neither of those...:D.....Just showing the little known things about the airport.....:D

eyetoeye
June 29th, 2004, 10:14 AM
I see, i see... and please do remember that it was I who first introduced the topic.... :lol::baaa:

babystan03
June 29th, 2004, 10:29 AM
I see, i see... and please do remember that it was I who first introduced the topic.... :lol::baaa:

Yah lah......of course.....I just think it would be better to show your "imagination" in pictures so I take the picture loh........:D

babystan03
June 29th, 2004, 12:01 PM
Here's a close-up of T3(T2 carpark; 28/06/04).......enjoy.......:D

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14472.jpg

heirloom
June 29th, 2004, 02:09 PM
looks pretty tall.. it sthat two levels or one?

babystan03
June 29th, 2004, 02:10 PM
^
one level....and that would be the departure hall i think.....:D

heirloom
June 29th, 2004, 02:16 PM
nice :D

RafflesCity
June 29th, 2004, 04:48 PM
very spacious! :okay:

babystan03
July 2nd, 2004, 07:15 AM
Picture of SIA taken at the airport. Do you think this is taken from the viewing mall???

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14762.jpg

heirloom
July 2nd, 2004, 07:29 AM
airplanes seem mystically captivating. maybe it's the elegant shape supersized.

eyetoeye
July 2nd, 2004, 09:39 AM
airplanes seem mystically captivating. maybe it's the elegant shape supersized.

There's airliners.net for you! :lo: I, too, find cammercial jets extremely 'captivating'.

huaiwei
July 2nd, 2004, 09:57 AM
Picture of SIA taken at the airport. Do you think this is taken from the viewing mall???

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14762.jpg
Dosent look like its from the viewing mall...you managed to sneak to the rooftop or something? :?

babystan03
July 2nd, 2004, 10:10 AM
^
Haha....you make me sound like a spy.......:D

Here's another clue.........:D

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14772.jpg

huaiwei
July 2nd, 2004, 10:27 AM
Strange.....that looks like its taken from the left hand side of the gallery...its open already? If not...you somehow got into the North Pier of T2??

babystan03
July 2nd, 2004, 10:37 AM
Strange.....that looks like its taken from the left hand side of the gallery...its open already? If not...you somehow got into the North Pier of T2??

Nope...the left side of the gallery is still closed and I didn't sneak into the North Pier........:D

Clue: The answer is in this thread itself.

eyetoeye
July 2nd, 2004, 12:32 PM
babystan03: Singaporean man of mystery.....

RafflesCity
July 2nd, 2004, 12:36 PM
very elegant picture of the planes :)

heirloom
July 2nd, 2004, 01:06 PM
the thread says 'Singapore Changi Airport Termianls 1, 2 & 3'. that relaly helps!!

babystan03
July 2nd, 2004, 01:47 PM
babystan03: Singaporean man of mystery.....

:rofl:

@raffie: thanks....:)

This picture is taken at T2....Huaiwei made the right assumption. But the location is wrong. The answer is:

Towards the end of the corridor, there is a rather small window which shows what I've taken( the SIA and Gate E20).....hmmm....another nice place for plane spotting....:D
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14651.jpg

eyetoeye
July 3rd, 2004, 10:24 AM
So it's at the end of the corridor? Okay. Actually, i find aeroplanes about as appealing as skyscrapers, and i think it's for the same reasons too, though i'm not entirely sure what. I guess they're a sort of symbol of man's dominance of the planet. A symbol of power and ability? Or maybe it's just within us to feel proud about the things we create.

babystan03
July 3rd, 2004, 10:43 AM
^
Wow....such sensitivity for such amazing things......here's more SIA( now from the viewing mall....:D). Hmm...maybe I should post some airplanes....:)

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13151.jpg

heirloom
July 3rd, 2004, 10:59 AM
then the thread sould be renamed...

lufthansa and sia quite matching

eyetoeye
July 3rd, 2004, 11:00 AM
Too bad trop isn't here. He's a former aircraft fanatic.

babystan03
July 7th, 2004, 04:54 AM
This shop caught my eye when I visit the airport(T2) a few weeks ago......It's from Japan and it markets itself as a salon that cuts your hair in 10mins(costing S$10)......

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN14521.jpg

heirloom
July 7th, 2004, 06:05 AM
i tried that once in the city with 3 other friends and we hated the cut... although there was this rather interesting contraption that vacuums your head for lose hair after they're done cutting... also can't expect much for $10..

babystan03
July 7th, 2004, 07:06 AM
^
The vacumn was a rather good concept.......:) The cut is nothing spectacular but then for 10 bucks it consider ok.......good for travellers who want a trim or something........

ignoramus
July 7th, 2004, 07:21 AM
Never ever trusted my hair to be cut at such places. The neighbourhood barber charges S$7 for the same level of service, cheaper than the S$10 charged here for a comparable level of service. Still, I don't like the idea of the barber having to rush through cutting my hair in 10 minutes. The neighbourhood barber takes all the time he needs. Anyways, this appears to be a rather good idea for really desperate travellers for god knows what reasons. Just hope that the service isn't really that bad as you all have mentioned. After all, its usually the executives who need a hair cut so as to maintain a neat appearance in front of clients, and if the service is bad, it defeats the purpose. Is it just me, or have the forums become very quiet recently? Except of course that post of Baiyun airport. All of a sudden its become like the main focus. Didn't even know it existed.

babystan03
July 7th, 2004, 07:27 AM
Never ever trusted my hair to be cut at such places. The neighbourhood barber charges S$7 for the same level of service, cheaper than the S$10 charged here for a comparable level of service. Still, I don't like the idea of the barber having to rush through cutting my hair in 10 minutes. The neighbourhood barber takes all the time he needs. Anyways, this appears to be a rather good idea for really desperate travellers for god knows what reasons. Just hope that the service isn't really that bad as you all have mentioned. After all, its usually the executives who need a hair cut so as to maintain a neat appearance in front of clients, and if the service is bad, it defeats the purpose. Is it just me, or have the forums become very quiet recently? Except of course that post of Baiyun airport. All of a sudden its become like the main focus. Didn't even know it existed.

Emm personally I think the haircut is not that bad although u can't really compare to salon standards. Whether if it's better than the barber cuts, it's really down to personal preference. For travellers on a rush who want to keep themselves trim and neat, this is rather good....... :)

heirloom
July 7th, 2004, 07:33 AM
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm actually most people have an ok experience with this i think maybe we 4 were unlucky.. or we just didnt like the haircut. they're subjective.

Julien
July 7th, 2004, 08:20 AM
I tried QB house several times and the outcome is that it's kind of a lottery. Sometimes the cut is just fine, sometimes it just sucks !

babystan03
July 7th, 2004, 08:27 AM
I tried QB house several times and the outcome is that it's kind of a lottery. Sometimes the cut is just fine, sometimes it just sucks !

Haha.....I think those busy outlets really suck sometimes... :bash: :D.......So I always try the off-peak hours if i ever go there for a haircut now........ :)

eyetoeye
July 7th, 2004, 10:59 AM
My neighbourhood barber charges 8sgd for the same thing, but they take SIX minutes because i tell them to do a spike cut, which is shorter and easier than a normal trim.

I always worry that if they cut too fast they might accidently stab you or something. Maybe i read too much stephen king, but i always imagine the blade jabbing deep into the brain through the skull, with blood and grey matter oozing out through the hole, followed by an 'oops' from the barber..... and there's always the risk of Aids?

huaiwei
July 8th, 2004, 12:37 AM
Ok....I dont want to visualise that happening....ewww....

Watever the case, $10 at changi is quite a good deal, considering that fact tt I dont think the rent there is that low?

babystan03
July 8th, 2004, 06:29 AM
Ok....I dont want to visualise that happening....ewww....

Watever the case, $10 at changi is quite a good deal, considering that fact tt I dont think the rent there is that low?

I think $10 is reasonable at changi......and I notice they have two outlets at changi(the other one at T1 arrival hall)....:eek:

babystan03
July 9th, 2004, 09:35 AM
The following picture is to show the end of T1 and the beginning of T2(the beginning of the central block where there are some antennas)....

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17191.jpg

babystan03
July 9th, 2004, 09:45 AM
T3 construction updates(9/7/04):

Looks like they are ready to add another big chunk of roof........(piece of roof to be added on the floor on the right of the terminal)......:eek:

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17231.jpg

RafflesCity
July 10th, 2004, 03:29 AM
nice update! looks like this is the most visible progress for the past few weeks?

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 03:52 AM
nice update! looks like this is the most visible progress for the past few weeks?

Yup, the other more visible progress is towards the left of the terminal, though it's more subtle compare to the roof........

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN16981.jpg

RafflesCity
July 10th, 2004, 03:56 AM
haha..I thought the shell of the terminal is already completed? I wonder what part that is...

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 04:02 AM
Should be the pier/transit area......it seems like they are concentrating more on the main terminal now though.....:cool:

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 05:12 AM
I wonder how will the T1 grey scheme stands against the white scheme of T3??? (Picture shows the T1 pier which is to be connected with the T3 pier)

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17161.jpg

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 07:57 AM
^
Seems ok from this rendering.......:)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829117.jpg
According to this picture scanned by Huaiwei, T3's terminal will stretch all the way to the MRT atrium.......

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17141.jpg
According to this picture I took(9/7/04), it seems like the main terminal is going to add about another 3-4 pieces of those huge roof b4 it's complete......:eek::D

huaiwei
July 10th, 2004, 04:41 PM
So observant ah...

Anyway that redendering itsnt entirely clear....I remember there is a better ariel view somewhere else?

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 05:14 PM
So observant ah...

Anyway that redendering itsnt entirely clear....I remember there is a better ariel view somewhere else?

Huh???Observant mair?? More like answering my own question....haha...:D

Got a better rendering?? Anyway I find this rendering good enough to satisfy my curiosity.... ;)

redstone
July 10th, 2004, 05:27 PM
Are those the Skytrains?

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 05:32 PM
^
Yes....though I'm not sure that is the actual design of the new skytrain or not.......:)

redstone
July 10th, 2004, 05:34 PM
I hope they have a better design for the real bridge.It looks so plain.

heirloom
July 10th, 2004, 05:35 PM
hrm... it doesnt seem like a suitable location for a flashy bridge...

redstone
July 10th, 2004, 05:41 PM
Not flashy at all...

A structure by Santiago Calatrava be an awesome sight and a stunning 'entrance' to the airport.You have to pass below it to get to the terminals.

heirloom
July 10th, 2004, 05:48 PM
well that could work too.. although it could be odd against the very not flashy terminals...

babystan03
July 10th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Don't know how the new skytrain is.....I guess it might be something like the Sengkang LRT abeilt nicer....... :)

heirloom
July 10th, 2004, 06:45 PM
hrmm... the shape of thte carriages seem similar to the sengkang ones now that you mention it...

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 06:01 AM
^
This few links show that the new skytrain will be using the Sengkang system.....there's even a name for the system, the "Crystal mover".....:cool:

http://www.mhi.co.jp/tech/pdf/e401/e401044.pdf

http://www.leaelliott.com/markets/representative_airport_projects_singapore.htm

http://www.mhi.co.jp/mihara/print/news/index.html#09

Crystal Mover Rolls On in Singapore
New Transport System Features Novel Design and Comfortable Ride

In 1998, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries received an order from the Singapore Land Transport Authority for the supply of a new transport system designed with a futuristic look and compatible with the country's modern image. In response, MHI's Mihara Machinery & Transportation Systems Works - the same site shared by the company's Paper & Printing Machinery Division - designed and manufactured an automated people mover (APM) system named Crystal Mover.

http://www.mhi.co.jp/mihara/print/news/img/photo_11.jpg
Sengkang LRT

The system began public operations in December 2002. With its crystal-cut design and color scheme of off-white and dark blue, the rubber-tired Crystal Mover readily projects and ultramodern image. The APM is capable of speeds of up to 80 kph and each car can accommodate 105 people. In Singapore, Crystal Mover is used to link railway terminal stations with the New Town.

The need for automated transport systems from overseas, particularly at large airports, is rapidly increasing. MHI has already received orders from Changi Airport in Singapore, Miami International Airport in Florida, and Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C. Aside from these recent orders, the system is also currently being constructed in Hong Kong.

The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry at the 32nd Machine Industry Design Contest awarded Mitsubishi's Crystal Mover for design of the APM system.

http://www.sumitomocorp.co.jp/english/section_e/yusoki/index2.shtml

http://www.sumitomocorp.co.jp/english/section_e/yusoki/img/biz_high_01.jpg
Image of MHI's Crystal Mover for Washington Dulles International Airport

The above rendering looks familiar to the skytrain in the T3 rendering......:)

ignoramus
July 11th, 2004, 10:40 AM
I always loved the design of the Crystal Mover. Even its colour scheme is so appropriate to its design. Didn't like the Bombardier vehicles used in the Bukit Panjang LRT Line though, too typical and ''boxish'' all round. Even its green on white and now red too colour scheme doesn't appeal to me either. Well, at least there's one thing good about it, a large window that lets you see everything in front.

Thought the Crystal Mover can't be coupled in pairs. Thats what the LTA said for the Sengkang LRT Line. And the stations for the SkyTrain look very boring in the rendering. Totally a mismatch with Terminal 3's design.

Ever wondered how the Skytrain will manage to pass through Terminal 3 on its way to Terminal 1? It can't possibly cut through Terminal 3 right, disrupting the flow of arriving and departing passengers. Or does it go underground there?

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 10:58 AM
Ever wondered how the Skytrain will manage to pass through Terminal 3 on its way to Terminal 1? It can't possibly cut through Terminal 3 right, disrupting the flow of arriving and departing passengers. Or does it go underground there?

http://www.changiairport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_5.gif

Looking carefully at this map, I notice the new skytrain will not "cut through" T3. The stations are at either end of each terminal. However T3 got an extra "station A south" towards the left(at the extension/pier area).

ignoramus
July 11th, 2004, 11:11 AM
Oh now I get the idea. The new Skytrain system will be broken up primarily into 2 pieces. Had originally thought that the entire system will be in a huge loop. Things are clearer now, haha.

So many different Skytrain services, hope the variety of services provided will not confuse the passengers and the public. And the signs leading to the different Skytrain services must be clear too. No more ''Skytrain to Terminal 1'', now its ''Skytrain to Terminal 1 Station B'' for example.

I wonder who designed the system. It looks so complicated to manage. A real headache if anything breaks down.

Taipei101
July 11th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Nice skytrain.

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 11:51 AM
Oh now I get the idea. The new Skytrain system will be broken up primarily into 2 pieces. Had originally thought that the entire system will be in a huge loop. Things are clearer now, haha.

So many different Skytrain services, hope the variety of services provided will not confuse the passengers and the public. And the signs leading to the different Skytrain services must be clear too. No more ''Skytrain to Terminal 1'', now its ''Skytrain to Terminal 1 Station B'' for example.

I wonder who designed the system. It looks so complicated to manage. A real headache if anything breaks down.

Haha....at first I was also thinking about the new skytrain forming a loop until you ask the question.....so thanks for raising it up.....:D

I'm sure they'll have good signage for it..... ;)

Comparing the old skytrain with the Sengkang LRT, I think the Sengkang one have an edge in speed....(max speed of skytrain: 70km/h ; Sengkang LRT: 80km/h)........But given the short distance of the Changi system, I doubt the train will accelerate to 80km/h......:)

Taipei101
July 11th, 2004, 11:57 AM
Changi Airport has an old terminal but good service.

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Changi Airport has an old terminal but good service.

It won't be that old after the major upgrading......... ;)

huaiwei
July 11th, 2004, 12:51 PM
http://www.changiairport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_5.gif

Looking carefully at this map, I notice the new skytrain will not "cut through" T3. The stations are at either end of each terminal. However T3 got an extra "station A south" towards the left(at the extension/pier area).
Very strange routing....it seems like the existing T1-T2 route will remain? The only way I can get from T1 to T2 is to stop at T2 first?

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 01:14 PM
Very strange routing....it seems like the existing T1-T2 route will remain? The only way I can get from T1 to T2 is to stop at T2 first?

This article seem to offer a detail explaination of the routes.......

http://www.leaelliott.com/Information/PDF/Singapore%20Changi%20Airport%20by%20Cindy%20Sugimoto.pdf

ignoramus
July 11th, 2004, 01:19 PM
I assume that you were asking whether there was only one way to get from T1 to T3, that being via a stop at T2. Looking at the map, I would assume that there might not be the case. After all, there are 10 services altogether. So one service from T1 might be dedicated to moving to T3 immediately whereas the other service would move on to T2, with the train heading to T3 making a very weird stop at the junction where the new and old tracks meet, before moving on in the opposite direction towards T3. Even if that were not the case, there is still another way to get from T1 to T3. At the other end of T1 there is another station, and that links directly to T3, just as the current Skytrain system links from T2 to T1. (The pink lines must mean something right, after all the blue lines do not show any connections to the other station at the other edge of T1, so the pink lines must too refer to the new tracks, though I have no idea why they differentiated it from the rest of the Skytrain network).

ignoramus
July 11th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Since there will be 10 different Skytrain services provided, and assuming that the airport authorities would want transit/public passengers to reach their desired station in their desired terminal in as soon as possible, they would probably not want the Skytrains to not stop at any intermediate station but rather point to point. And if you abide by this principle, I can just imagine the types of different services that may pop up. Example: (Left section of the Skytrain network serving airside passengers only) Service 1 could serve T2 & T3 A. Service B could serve T3 A & T3 A South. Service 3 could serve T2 & T3 A South. These are my assumptions.

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 01:57 PM
No matter how they plan the route, the important thing is that it must be convenient to get from one terminal to the other.....With the proposed 10 services, I think it should be ok.....:cool:

ignoramus
July 11th, 2004, 02:05 PM
I agree. After all, we do not have the fortune of being able to relocate our airport to another region of the country altogether (NBIA, HKIA, KLIA, IIA) and thus be able to start of on a clean slate with a single terminal building only. Thus, we have to ensure that our inter terminal transfers are seamless, efficient and not confusing. That way, our 3 terminals may actually end up working as though it is one terminal alone.

huaiwei
July 11th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Wow..so complicated. Anyway if that pinkish thingy is also a route, wonder why there is an extension to the left of T3?

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Wow..so complicated. Anyway if that pinkish thingy is also a route, wonder why there is an extension to the left of T3?

Perhaps due to the distance?? Or giving special treatment to transit passengers??? (that route seems to be used by airside passenger only) :?

ignoramus
July 11th, 2004, 06:24 PM
You are correct. That Skytrain route is indeed for airside passengers only. Try looking a bit closer at the small text in the picture. You will see that it says ''Airside Only''. The likely reason for that additional station would be that after all, Terminal 3 is longer.

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 06:32 PM
You are correct. That Skytrain route is indeed for airside passengers only. Try looking a bit closer at the small text in the picture. You will see that it says ''Airside Only''. The likely reason for that additional station would be that after all, Terminal 3 is longer.

The left loop is for airside only while those on the right are for both airside and landside....(for the public and the transit passenger)

Which means for people visiting the airport(the public), they will only use the routes in the right loop. ie T1 to T3(the pink line on the right), T2 to T3(the right loop), T2 to T1(the blue line going from T2 to T1) and vice versa.

huaiwei
July 11th, 2004, 07:26 PM
OH! Now then did I see the tiny text!

Anyway, there still dosent seem to be a clear landside line between T1 and T3 direct, unless the line is somehow hidden under the pink line.

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Found this rendering from the T3 thread in Singapore forum.....this looks like the T3 skytrain station.......(pictures post by Huaiwei)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829114.jpg

babystan03
July 11th, 2004, 07:28 PM
OH! Now then did I see the tiny text!

Anyway, there still dosent seem to be a clear landside line between T1 and T3 direct, unless the line is somehow hidden under the pink line.

I'm sure it's there....it's the most logical route from T1 to T3......:)

Taipei101
July 11th, 2004, 10:29 PM
Nice airy feeling with the glass.

babystan03
July 12th, 2004, 06:31 AM
^
Glass seem to be the preferred material for construction this day.......:D

Hope that the real thing will be as nice as the rendering...... :cheers:

Taipei101
July 12th, 2004, 07:58 AM
I would be a shame if there was a destructable earthquake(just joking)!. :drunk:

ignoramus
July 12th, 2004, 03:24 PM
There is a direct line between T1 & T3, just as there is a direct line between T3 A & T3 A South.

By the way, I don't think that the title of the thread is all correct. The term ''International'' is only included when there is a need to differentiate between an international airport and a domestic airport. And since Singapore has no domestic airport, the ''International'' term is kind of redundant. This can be seen by how our airport brands itself only as Singapore Changi Airport in press releases et cetera. It should be ''Singapore Changi Airport - Latest Expansions & Upgrades'' instead. hehe. Just something to take note of, nothing major.

redstone
July 13th, 2004, 12:28 PM
A Santiago Calavra (sp?) entrance porch ,roof ,glass lobby roof would be awesome.I'm kinda sick of seeing SOM's design all over the place...

RafflesCity
July 13th, 2004, 02:43 PM
I'm kinda sick of seeing SOM's design all over the place...

must be all our new glassy boxes coming up :D

huaiwei
July 13th, 2004, 06:56 PM
There is a direct line between T1 & T3, just as there is a direct line between T3 A & T3 A South.

By the way, I don't think that the title of the thread is all correct. The term ''International'' is only included when there is a need to differentiate between an international airport and a domestic airport. And since Singapore has no domestic airport, the ''International'' term is kind of redundant. This can be seen by how our airport brands itself only as Singapore Changi Airport in press releases et cetera. It should be ''Singapore Changi Airport - Latest Expansions & Upgrades'' instead. hehe. Just something to take note of, nothing major.
Long title names look cooler. :D

heirloom
July 13th, 2004, 07:26 PM
the reason why Changi International Airport doesn't go by an acronym like klia or hkia hit me a few days ago.

huaiwei
July 14th, 2004, 01:26 AM
Sigh...so you guys want all the titles to be changed or what?

heirloom
July 14th, 2004, 01:56 AM
um no not sure if you were referrign to me but if you were no.. just thought it was funny

Taipei101
July 14th, 2004, 08:22 AM
Changi is a good name- from the suburb,

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 02:58 PM
Found another good place for T3........(14/7/04; overhead bridge at bus stop(one stop before T1) )

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17311.jpg

Just when I thought this is a nice view, something happened.....I heard some "noise" then when I look at the back.....This is what I saw.......

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17331.jpg

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17341.jpg

Feels so good to see a plane pass by you..........:eek::D

heirloom
July 14th, 2004, 03:06 PM
um where did you take that from?

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 03:10 PM
^
Overhead bridge at the busstop at airport boulevard (one stop b4 T1)....:)

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17361.jpg

redstone
July 14th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Ooooooooooooh!

The widest bridge in Singapore?It is actually a slipway flyover.I've seen planes cruising on the bridge.

huaiwei
July 14th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Yes.....it is actually a taxiway for planes lumbering over the bridge...I wonder if it can hold up a A380. :D

redstone
July 14th, 2004, 03:50 PM
When a plane is up there just as you are driving through it is a very amazing experience, which I had personally once.:D

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Yes.....it is actually a taxiway for planes lumbering over the bridge...I wonder if it can hold up a A380. :D

Unfortunately it's a B777, if it was an A380...........:eek2:

Here's a view of T3 from T2 arrival hall's taxi stand........
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17651.jpg

redstone
July 14th, 2004, 03:55 PM
If you stand at Changi Beach, feels very fantastic to have planes fly overhead very close.

You can play games of Guess the Airline, Guess the Country of Origin and Guess the Planes' Model!:D

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 03:58 PM
If you stand at Changi Beach, feels very fantastic to have planes fly overhead very close.

You can play games of Guess the Airline, Guess the Country of Origin and Guess the Planes' Model!:D

Wah....sounds familiar......:D Anyway tried the guessing thing at Changi T1 at around 5-7 plus....that was when you see lots of plane arriving...:eek:

redstone
July 14th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Yup, that's when there are the highest frequency of planes landing.Once in a while you can see a rather uncommon model.:D

Like once I saw a plane with 4 engines attached to the tail.A Russian model for sure.I've only seen it once.

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 04:06 PM
^
Did you see which airline is that??

redstone
July 14th, 2004, 04:10 PM
Unidentified.:(

Something looks like this (refering to the model):
http://www.rob.clubkawasaki.com/jas902.jpg

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 04:19 PM
Found this at the airport (I think it's Myanmar Airlines MAI)......Could it be the one you saw??

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN12581.jpg

babystan03
July 14th, 2004, 05:38 PM
New skytrain construction(at the end of T1's departure hall; 14/7/04)

Possible link for T1 to the new skytrain station
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17421.jpg

This looks like a new skytrain station.....
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN17411.jpg

RafflesCity
July 14th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Nice to see progress over at T1 - that terminal is now so unused by me :D

huaiwei
July 15th, 2004, 12:16 AM
Nice to see progress over at T1 - that terminal is now so unused by me :D
You are a very fervent supporter of SIA or what? :D

eyetoeye
July 15th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Haha. I hope to visit the airport more often in the future. There's so much food there. I can't resist.

babystan03
July 15th, 2004, 02:07 PM
When a plane is up there just as you are driving through it is a very amazing experience, which I had personally once.:D

Emm...something also happen to me while I was waiting for a bus at the airport boulevard busstop.......:eek:

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN18281.jpg

babystan03
July 15th, 2004, 02:12 PM
T2 upgrading(14/7/04):

Seems like they added more of those sail-like roof......
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN18231.jpg

The complete section from outside
http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN18251.jpg

redstone
July 15th, 2004, 03:47 PM
Stan, not sure.

babystan03
July 15th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Stan, not sure.

Never mind.....:)

heirloom
July 15th, 2004, 04:16 PM
huh how come when i got out of changi i didnt see...

babystan03
July 15th, 2004, 04:31 PM
huh how come when i got out of changi i didnt see...

Dun noe,:?......... but anyway this was taken opposite T2..........:)

redstone
July 15th, 2004, 04:33 PM
Been a long time since I last went to the airport.

heirloom
July 15th, 2004, 04:42 PM
maybe arrival hall cannot see...

babystan03
July 15th, 2004, 04:45 PM
maybe arrival hall cannot see...

No wonder , can't see when you are inside the building............:)

RafflesCity
July 15th, 2004, 04:46 PM
You are a very fervent supporter of SIA or what? :D

:yes:

Its actually the frequent flyer points that make you wanna accumulate them :D

RafflesCity
July 15th, 2004, 04:49 PM
Emm...something also happen to me while I was waiting for a bus at the airport boulevard busstop.......:eek:

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN18281.jpg

that looks so cool! Was it noisy?

I always hoped to see a plane crossing the bridge but never had the chance

heirloom
July 15th, 2004, 04:50 PM
haha i seem to see like often when i pass under

babystan03
July 15th, 2004, 05:13 PM
that looks so cool! Was it noisy?

I always hoped to see a plane crossing the bridge but never had the chance

It was noisy....but somehow it feels great.....:cool:

RafflesCity
July 15th, 2004, 05:18 PM
I know..I just love that sound of the jets :yes:

eyetoeye
July 16th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Hey! I see them all the time! So cool right?

redstone
July 16th, 2004, 11:57 AM
Wonder if it could hold a A380?

babystan03
July 16th, 2004, 11:58 AM
I wonder why they built the bridge if it can't hold A380.

redstone
July 16th, 2004, 12:02 PM
Only one is the plane bridge, right?The other is a service road?

babystan03
July 16th, 2004, 12:04 PM
^
yes....only one is used for airplanes......the other a service road....

redstone
July 16th, 2004, 12:10 PM
Imagine the reaction of foreigners in a taxi on the road just as the plane crosses the bridge, not knowing that it is actually an aircraft bridge!:D