Fenerbahçe
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:qsioJyOQdaoJ:www.fenerbahcecumhuriyeti.org/Logo_ve_Duvar_Kagitlari/Logo.Buyuk.jpghttp://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:rWJADk3Y6_8J:www.fenerbahcecumhuriyeti.org/Logo_ve_Duvar_Kagitlari/MaviLogo.jpg
Trabzonspor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:pnWNnxpiU9oJ:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-trabzonspor.gif
Bursaspor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:62ro_afkG8MJ:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-bursaspor.gif
Beşiktaş
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:0uet_swo7iAJ:www.haberazzi.com/haber_images/bjk_logo_b.gif
Galatasaray
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:iAF3vZBMP5AJ:www.hmsh.nl/images/logo_galatasaray.gifhttp://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:1Y_RdKRlV8kJ:www.illedemavi.com/galatasaray/haber/logo.jpg
Gençlerbirliği
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:PGfr6GC1KrsJ:www.genclerbirligi.org.tr/_/images/logo.gif
Gaziantepspor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:BToyVmhHKWEJ:www.gaziantepspor.org.tr/gaziantepspor_logo.gifhttp://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:4KISCnGCtb0J:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-gaziantepspor.gif
Ankaragücü
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:puSSYTLh9H0J:www.bjkfutbol.com/logo/Ankaragucu.gif
Samsunspor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:Oc59WqA08s8J:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-samsunspor.gif
Konyaspor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:Zw3AMqb1m2wJ:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-konyaspor.gifhttp://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:JBF3IvL7G3wJ:www.fanat.com.ua/logo/turkey/konyaspor.gif
Kayserispor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:FZWi-WkGBXoJ:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-kayserispor.gif
Caykur Rizespor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:kDsUs-pzXqQJ:www.fanat.com.ua/logo/turkey/caykur_rizespor.gif
Altay
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:ZX6VGuP7sgAJ:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-altay-izmir.gif
Malatyaspor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:P4LAWVLkEGQJ:www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/Soccer/Malatyaspor.GIF
Denizlispor
http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:dy4w-191-9AJ:www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/logo/p-y/tur/tur-denizlispor.gif

I like Beshiktas's logo, looks so Italian

I ll vote for Fenerbahçe but I also like Konyaspors logo...

for me Galatasaray ;) ;) :cheers:
but all other looks the same good ;-)

None of them!

The best soccer logos are these:

http://www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/Soccer/AekAthens.GIF

http://www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/Soccer/Olympiakos.GIF

http://www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/Soccer/Panathinaikos.GIF

http://www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/Soccer/Paok.GIF

http://www.laughinghyena.net/LogoServer/Soccer/Panionios.GIF


But, perhaps, this is the BEST ONE OF THEM ALL!!!

http://www.worldofdemosthenes.com/sportspage/epo.jpg


HELLAS!!! EURO CHAMPS OF 2004!

well done!!!! you showed your ugly face once again... now leave....

these teams are Turkish teams?:D

i voted fenerbahçe but i liked gaziantepspor's logo too.

well done!!!! you showed your ugly face once again... now leave....


NO! You have shown your ugly face. I was simply trying to poke some fun and rivalry between our countries' football teams and YOU turned it into an ugly fight with your immature comments!

GROW UP!

someone show this idiot the door please...or teach him some english so he can understand this... "Which Turkish football team has the best logo?"

someone show this idiot the door please...or teach him some english so he can understand this... "Which Turkish football team has the best logo?"


Listen punk! You can't call me an idiot, ok? Let's get that straight!

Secondly, The team AEK Athens, translated in English means, ATHLETIC UNION OF KONSTANTINOPLE. Although it was robbed from us, Konstantinople is presently in Turkey so you can consider AEK the BEST TEAM IN TURKEY!!!

Sucker! :bash:

Listen punk! You can't call me an idiot, ok? Let's get that straight!

Secondly, The team AEK Athens, translated in English means, ATHLETIC UNION OF KONSTANTINOPLE. Although it was robbed from us, Konstantinople is presently in Turkey so you can consider AEK the BEST TEAM IN TURKEY!!!

Sucker! :bash:
:pet: take your pills....

Would you guys stop fucking fighting already!!


ANYWAY.

To our Turkish friends, is there a site I can see Turkish stadia? More preferrebly, the lower teams and general league stadiums. I have seen the top 3-4, but I have always wondered what condition the rest are in. Do you have photos or can point me in the direction?

calm down boys
this is a thread about turkish soccer clubs so its not needed to post some clubs of greece (ok i know its is funny)
so your argument with AEK is not very correct because konstantinope so how you know it newer exists
the new cits has the name istanbul so AEK is not a turkish soccer club.

AEK Athen means ATHLETIC UNION OF KONSTANTINOPLE ATHEN ;)
isnt this very funny a club of two cities ;)
it will be better when you call it AEA ATHLETIC UNION OF ATHEN :)

@all,

so be not rude and stay cool ;)

Would you guys stop fucking fighting already!!


ANYWAY.

To our Turkish friends, is there a site I can see Turkish stadia? More preferrebly, the lower teams and general league stadiums. I have seen the top 3-4, but I have always wondered what condition the rest are in. Do you have photos or can point me in the direction?
Sure thing Christos, www.stadyum.org
I understand the Greek equivalent is www.stadia.gr :)

Oh by the way, i voted for Galatasaray's logo. Surely the best logo of any football team!

http://images.google.com.tr/images?q=tbn:1Y_RdKRlV8kJ:www.illedemavi.com/galatasaray/haber/logo.jpg

Thos one is the best so simple and sleek :okay:

trabsonspor is nice too

As this polls title says "Which Turkish football team has the best logo?" (AND NOT GREEK team!) I vote for Galatsaray.

Sure thing Christos, www.stadyum.org
I understand the Greek equivalent is www.stadia.gr :)


Great! Thank you Genc. Exactly what I was looking for. :)

I have vote for my favorite team galatasaray. But I think Genclerbirligi logo is the best one in the turkish super league. :banana2:

I did vote Gencler even I'm a Gs fan.But my favorite of all is Barcelonaaaaa.

oval one of GS
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/1576/d2-logo.gif

Çorluspor
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/sivritepe/tur/CORLU.gif

In Turkey: Fenerbahçe, Beşiktaş and Gaziantep!

Rest: Barcelona, Juventus, Man Utd.

btw as i see Greek teams has some pretty nice logos. I especially like the logo of Olympakos but your NT logo sucks...

I don't like the greek logo either, I prefer the olympic team logo. But in any case the football nt logo would look better with the star above :D

I like Besiktas's logo, looks so Italian

:hug: :D

I don't like the greek logo either, I prefer the olympic team logo. But in any case the football nt logo would look better with the star above :D

What star?

http://www.bjk.com.tr/taraftar/wall/m1024x768.jpg

We existed even when you guys were vitamin C in your daddy's balls ;)

yeah you existed as a gymnasium club! :D

Beşiktaş football club 1903:

http://www.insidegymnastics.com/events/worldchamps02/photogallery/Gallery%2014/hamm5085.jpg

http://www.insidegymnastics.com/events/worldchamps02/photogallery/Gallery%2014/Dragulescu5114.jpg

:D

http://www.fenerbahce.org/multimedia/wallpaper/sukrusaracoglu800.jpg
http://www.fenerbahce.org/multimedia/wallpaper/wallpaper13_800x600.jpg
http://www.fenerbahce.org/multimedia/wallpaper/wallpaper_minik_800x600.jpg

hahaa what a sweet young fella! One more for the FB army! :D

Mavi gözlü, sari saclilarin resmini koymak moda oldu!Birsey zannediyorlar böyle olunca!

Mavi gözlü, sari saclilarin resmini koymak moda oldu!Birsey zannediyorlar böyle olunca!
resmi ben koydum! ama bi modayı fln takip ettiğim için koymadım, ne söylemek istediğini anlayamadım ya da kime gönderme yapmak istediğini??açıklayabilirsen sevinirim..

Ya en son İskender'i sarışın yaptılar ya filmde, orada film koptu artık! :D

Esmer Collin Farrel'ı civ cive döndürdüler. Ne dendir bilinmez!

Bence kumrallar sarışınlardan daha hoş duruyor.

Mesela benim kardeşim sarışın ama ben kumral olarak ondan daha yakışıklıyım yaaa! :D

kadının sarışını(o ben oluyorum:D) erkeğin esmeri makbuldür

küçücük ve çok tatlı bi çocuk!!!!!!! (fenerli,gs lı,bjk lı veya esmer,sarışın,kumral veya zenci olsaydı da koyucaktım!!)messiah şu fotorafın konulmasının altında bile başka sebepler arıosun ya HELAL OLSUN!!Ben bu sitede avrupalı görünmek adına bize düşmanlık edenlere yalakalık yapanlardan değilim, karıştırdın galiba!! merak etme sarışın Türklerin fotoraflarını kullanarak da avrupalı gorunmeye calısmam yani;) kendi aramızda anlaşamadıktan sonra milletle nasıl anlaşırız bilemiyorum!? bence bi daha bak bakalım şu dunya tatlısı cocuga belki hak verirsin bu sefer!!
http://www.fenerbahce.org/multimedia/wallpaper/wallpaper_minik_800x600.jpg

Of course Fenerbahçe!

Hep beraber :dj:

Fenerbahce sen cok yasa :drunk:
Canim feda olsun sana
Hic bir seye
Degisilmez
Senin adin bu dunyada

:dance:

I like Fenerbahç's logo. It's pretty cool! Don't they have a huge rivalry with Galatasaray? It's kinda of the same between Olympiakos and Panathinaikos in Greece.
I hope you don't mind if I post some soccer pics from Olympiakos (my team) However some are violent.
:) Here some fan sites for Olympiakos:
http://www.neofaliro7.cjb.net/
http://www.gate7.gr/ultras/main.php?file=01
http://www.misfits-gate7.com/


http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/vs-gays.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/panathinaikos%20team%20arrival%20%281%
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/lalalala%20POUTSA.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/GONA.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/gool---gona.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/bazelopoulman%2789.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/bazelopoulman....jpg

http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jylo.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/kadronia---polo.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/me---vazelo.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/241.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/202.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/1856.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/899.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/893.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/874.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/849.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/790.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/773.jpg

Poor poor vazeloi. lol.

I like Fenerbahç's logo. It's pretty cool! Don't they have a huge rivalry with Galatasaray? It's kinda of the same between Olympiakos and Panathinaikos in Greece.
I hope you don't mind if I post some soccer pics from Olympiakos (my team) However some are violent.
:) Here some fan sites for Olympiakos:
http://www.neofaliro7.cjb.net/
http://www.gate7.gr/ultras/main.php?file=01
http://www.misfits-gate7.com/


http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/vs-gays.jpg
20POUTSA.jpg[/IMG]
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/GONA.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/gool---gona.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/bazelopoulman%2789.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/bazelopoulman....jpg

http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jylo.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/kadronia---polo.jpg
http://mythrylos.com/toxicity/photos/albums/userpics/10001/me---vazelo.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/241.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/899.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/893.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/874.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/849.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/790.jpg
http://redwiredfans.gate7.gr/gallery/albums/773.jpg


oh i think this is terrible, its just a game its not a war!!!

You are absolutely right!
Thankfuly sports in America have not come to this (yet). There are big sports rivalries here in American football, baseball, basketball... but in counties in Europe and Latin America, the fans get really crazy over their club. England used to be very bad, but today I think Greece, Turkey, Serbia, and Italy are the worst.

When I was 15 or 16, I was in Greece (1988), I went to several games. One was a derby between Olymiakos (my team) and AEK. I was sitting in the AEK section (staying very quiet) because my cousin who lives in Greece is an AEK fan. I remember the Olympiakos fans were seperated by a section of empty seats and riot police. They were throwing rocks, flares, and oranges with razor blades stuck in them. The AEK fans were doing the same. Then there were fights outside the stadium. It was pretty nuts!
http://www.gate7.gr/ultras/images/koukoloforos1.jpg
http://ultras7.mythrylos.gr/gallery/pics/377.jpg
http://ultras7.mythrylos.gr/gallery/pics/180.jpg
http://ultras7.mythrylos.gr/gallery/pics/127.jpg
http://ultras7.mythrylos.gr/gallery/pics/507.jpg
http://ultras7.mythrylos.gr/gallery/pics/215.jpg
http://ultras7.mythrylos.gr/gallery/pics/123.jpg

Last pics I promise!
http://www.red-nationalists.gate7.gr/Photos/Photos1/018.jpg





Here are our rivals: Panathinaikos Athens
http://www.gate-13.co.uk/photos/hell/n.smyrnh.jpg
http://www.gate-13.co.uk/photos/hell/pao-juve!!!!.jpg
http://www.gate-13.co.uk/photos/xtreme/03.jpg
http://www.gate-13.co.uk/photos/xtreme/10.jpg
http://www.gate-13.co.uk/photos/xtreme/09.jpg

Stuff like that hasn't happened in years man..... just look how old those pics are.

Stuff like that hasn't happened in years man..... just look how old those pics are.

Did you happen to look at the first 10 pics there all from the past three years. Actually, things inside the stadiums this year have been more peaceful, why? Because when two big teams play like Olympiakos and PAO, they will not sell tickets to the visiting teams fans. SO the violence remains outside the stadium. Trust me Christo7, Greek soccer is WAY behind most European countries not only in controling the violence, but getting good officiating, getting political clout out of games, and only now have they started building or rebuilding stadiums. Most Greek teams play on dirt pitches!Why do you think Greek teams have trouble signing young stars from other countries (Rivaldo is not young, niether was Karambe). It's not like Olympiakos or PAO don't have the finances.
I could post more but there' no need. After all this is a Turkish forum about Skyscrapers. :)

These things unfortunately happen in Greece, Italy and Turkey. We are crazy people. But the situation in Greece is the worst i guess or that's what i see from the pics.

...

Did you happen to look at the first 10 pics there all from the past three years. Actually, things inside the stadiums this year have been more peaceful, why? Because when two big teams play like Olympiakos and PAO, they will not sell tickets to the visiting teams fans. SO the violence remains outside the stadium. Trust me Christo7, Greek soccer is WAY behind most European countries not only in controling the violence, but getting good officiating, getting political clout out of games, and only now have they started building or rebuilding stadiums. Most Greek teams play on dirt pitches!Why do you think Greek teams have trouble signing young stars from other countries (Rivaldo is not young, niether was Karambe). It's not like Olympiakos or PAO don't have the finances.
I could post more but there' no need. After all this is a Turkish forum about Skyscrapers. :)


Bullshit. I am an advid follower of Greek football and have been for years. I remember these things also.... yeah take a look at the first few pics, notice how they are the most peaceful? Viloence like the rest of the pics haven't happened in YEARS. Where do you get off presenting our football like that? Give me a break. :bash:

First pics are peaceful because NO fans from the visiting team were allowed ticket sales. Kareskaki is a brand new stadium. What the hell do you think would have happened if there were PAO fans there!

I will hold my disgust back because it is Christmas today, but all I will say is that by proudly posting these shameful pics, you are just as disgusting as those who partake in this violence.

This is well becoming a thing of the past in Greece. With a new stadium for Olympiakos, new stadiums on the way for AEK and Panathinaikos, and the OAKA, Kaftatzogliou, Pancretan, Volos, and refurbished Toumba stadiums, Greek soccer is quickly on the rise.

If you have crappy venues, then you have crappy fans....

Merry Christmas to all

:bash:

kaftatzogliou? sounds like very turkish to me:)

kaftatzogliou? sounds like very turkish to me:)

That's because Greeks were under Ottoman rule for more than 400 years.
The Greek language uses many Turkish words. Listen to our music, it sound very similar to Turkish, nothing like Italian yet we are in between both countries. The same goes for food, probably more similar to Turkish.
Just look at our national heroes, do they look like British, Italian, or Frence people of the 19th century? Hell no they look like middle easterners.

http://www.nostos.com/greekrev/Kolokotronis.jpg
http://www.nostos.com/greekrev/Karaiskakis.jpg
http://www.nostos.com/greekrev/Kanaris.jpg
http://www.nostos.com/greekrev/Makriyiannis.jpg
http://www.nostos.com/greekrev/Nikitaras.jpg
http://www.nostos.com/greekrev/Papaflesas.jpg

Fenerbahce

That's because Greeks were under Ottoman rule for more than 400 years.The Greek language uses many Turkish words. Listen to our music, it sound very similar to Turkish, nothing like Italian yet we are in between both countries. The same goes for food, probably more similar to Turkish.
Just look at our national heroes, do they look like British, Italian, or Frence people of the 19th century? Hell no they look like middle easterners. These are your ancestors and they don't look like middle eastern, They look like east mediteranean. Both of them are two different things. When you look at the cloths of Yugoslavian countries and southern Italia and Turkey, maybe understand this difference better.

Also you are wrong about something. You don't use Turkish words because of the Ottoman rule or some of you have Turkish lastnames. If it was true, Bulgarians, Romanians and Arabs would have Turkish lastnames and words too. Also, you can't imagine how many Greek words there are in Turkish language. There were so many nations under the Ottoman rule, but we have only Greek words (except Arabic words). Also if you come here and have some Turkish friends, you don't feel stranger. When you sit at a cafe and watch around you feel in Greece, and ask yourself why these people don't speak Greek... Do you know the reason?

There were so many nations under the Ottoman rule, but we have only Greek words (except Arabic words). Also if you come here and have some Turkish friends, you don't feel stranger. When you sit at a cafe and watch around you feel in Greece, and ask yourself why these people don't speak Greek... Do you know the reason?

Not so true. We use many words from French and Italian too...

arabic words come from the religion. However Greek words come from interaction, those things are different. Turks are more close to Persians. Also Turks are close to Greeks. At the same time, Greeks and Persians share too much things. :D

The most interesting thing is arabic civilization has been effected way too much by Persian, Latin and Greek cultures.

Especially Persian one.

For example the word Yunan is called for Greeks in all arabic world. That is because Persians called Greeks as Ionian. Yunan comes from Persian pronounciation of Ionian. Many arabic word has Greek, Roman or Persian roots. :D But the most interesting thing is, proto arabs which are Sumerians, Phoenicians, and Egyptians are the source of Greek, Roman, Persian civilization. That is another topic to discuss...

Arabs were under Persian rule for many centuries. Then Greek occupation came, then Roman occupation came.

Turks were mutated in the Seljuk and Ottoman times.

Seljuks became Persianized, last emperor Sencer, behaved like a Persian...

Ottomans tend to become Greko-Roman.

Turks were successful military people however their cultural background was too small. That is why, Oktay' s conquest of China was ended with the disaster of Turkic assimilation. Maotun (Mete) hessitated to occupy China, Attila feard to occupy Rome, because all were afraid of assimilation.

In the beginning of the 19th century, with the force of French Revolution, Greeks and the several provinces seperated from the empire. THey realised that they were nations. After Ittihat and Terakki movement and Ziya Gokalp, Turks understood that they are also a nation. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, increased the speed of this movement, and Anti-Turkic, Pro-Greco/Roman(in the final centuries, arabized) Ottoman Empire was crashed, and the young Turkish republic was established. We took Turkish names instead of arabic and Persian names. We learned our history, etc...

If Ottomans understood that they were a nation, they would not dare to attack Timurlenk in the beginning of 15th century.

Nevertheless, we are trying to turn back to our Turkish identity but it is too late, too many arabized islamist people are inside us.

Not so true. We use many words from French and Italian too...

My friend, I meant the languages of the nations under the Ottoman rule. Except Arabic wich is the religion language, we have only the words of Greek language. We don't have any Armenian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian or Serbian word in Turkish. But we have so many Greek words and traditions...

^
Look where Turkey's major cities are today. Istanbul, Izmir, Ankara, Bursa, Trabzon all had very large Greek populations up until the 1920's This is why we share many common traits including language, food, music....

Originally posted by chicagogeorge
Look where Turkey's major cities are today. Istanbul, Izmir, Ankara, Bursa, Trabzon all had very large Greek populations up until the 1920's This is why we share many common traits including language, food, music....
Could you give me the numbers of these polpulation? Per city? Also there were (are still) many ethnic communities and nations in many cities and villages, we have only Greek words, not Albanian, Serbian or Armenian (they still live in Turkey). Why do we have only Greek words? Have you ever looked at the subject from this point of view before?