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Matthieu
December 5th, 2004, 07:41 PM
Hagia Sophia (Greek: Άγια Σοφία, Hagia Sophia, meaning "Holy Wisdom", and also how "Saint Sophia" is spelled; written Ayasofya in Turkish) was the cathedral of Constantinople (today's Istanbul, Turkey). The first great church on the site was built by Constantius, the son of Constantine the Great, but was burned down during the Nika riots of 532. The building was rebuilt in its present form in 532 - 537 under the personal supervision of emperor Justinian I. It is a prime example of Byzantine architecture. Of great artistic importance was its decorated interior with mosaics and marble pillars and coverings. The temple itself was so richly and artistically decorated that Justinian is believed to have said Νενίκηκά σε Σολομών (Solomon, I have surpassed you!).

Its architects were Isidore of Miletus and Anthemius of Tralles, professors of geometry at the University of Constantinople. Justinian's great basilica was at once the culminating architectural achievement of late antiquity and the first great masterpiece of Byzantine architecture. Its influence, both architecturally and liturgically, was widespread and enduring.

Hagia Sophia is covered by a central dome 102 feet (31 m) across, slightly smaller than the Pantheon's. The dome seems rendered weightless by the unbroken arcade of arched windows under it, which help flood the colorful interior with light. The dome is carried on pendentives. These four concave triangular sections of masonry solved the problem of setting the circular base of a dome on a rectangular base. At Hagia Sophia the weight of the dome passes through the pendentives to four massive piers at the corners. Between them the dome seems to float upon four great arches.

At the west (entrance) and east (liturgical) ends, the arched openings are extended and by great half domes carried on smaller semidomed exedras. Thus a hierarchy of dome-headed elements build up to create a vast oblong interior crowned by the main dome, a sequence unexampled in antiquity.

In fact, "its first dome fell after an earthquake May 7, 558; its replacement in 563, had a higher profile than the original. It also had to be repaired after additional partial collapses ..." in 989 and 1346 (see Marvin Trachtenberg and Isabelle Hyman. Architecture: from Prehistory to Post-Modernism p, 171).

All interior surfaces are sheathed with polychrome marbles, green and white with purple porphyry and gold mosaics, encrusted upon the brick. On the exterior, simple stuccoed walls reveal the clarity of massed vaults and domes.

For over 900 years it was the seat of the Orthodox patriarch of Constantinople and a principal setting for imperial ceremonies

Hagia Sophia was converted to a mosque at the Fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman Turks under Sultan Mehmed II in 1453. Its rich figurative mosaics were covered with plaster. It was for almost 500 years the principal mosque of Istanbul. Hagia Sophia served as model for many of the great Ottoman mosques of Constantinople such as the Shehzade Mosque, the Suleiman Mosque, and the Rustem Pasha Mosque.

After continuing as a mosque into the early years of the republic of Turkey, in 1934 under Kemal Atatürk it was secularized and turned into the Ayasofya Museum. Nevertheless, the colorful mosaics remained largely plastered over, and the building was allowed to decay. A 1993 UNESCO mission to Turkey noted falling plaster, dirty marble facings, broken windows, decorative paintings damaged by moisture, and ill-maintained lead roofing. Cleaning, roofing and restoration have since been undertaken. The exceptional floor and wall mosaics which had been cemented over in 1453 are now being gradually excavated.

http://studyrussian.com/seidenstrasse/pic/hagia_sofia.jpg

http://es.tldp.org/Presentaciones/200102linuxcol/filosofia/filosofia/images/hagia_sofia.jpg

http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/images/turk_pict/ist51_hagiasofia.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/agsofia2.jpg

http://www.skedsmo.vgs.no/prosjekter/istanbul/hagia%20sofia%207.JPG

zafiris
December 5th, 2004, 07:56 PM
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Hardouin-Mansart
December 5th, 2004, 07:59 PM
I CRAVE that building, extremely imperfect as it is... 7

BTW, zafiris: in 1453 Constantinople, the main buildings and temples were consciously saved by uncivilized Mehmet II from being sacked like the rest of the deserted city, while the civilized Greek churchmen had been responsible for intellectual paralysis and the destruction of some remnants of classic Greek culture in the decadent later Byzantine empire, so that they finally let the Ottomans impose their might.

If you want to have an idea of what the splendid Byzantine empire was like back in 1453, look at what the Middle East is today. Do the world a favour and don't learn history from extreme nationalism.

Matthieu
December 5th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Folks, it's not a political forum. You like the building or no but that's where it ends.

Kampflamm
December 5th, 2004, 08:05 PM
Parts of it look like a bunker. Isn't there a pretty big white mosque somewhere in Istanbul? That one looks much better.

Hardouin-Mansart
December 5th, 2004, 08:07 PM
^In fact, any mosque in Istanbul looks better, but virtually every single one of them is inspired in that building.

Matthieu
December 5th, 2004, 08:08 PM
Parts of it look like a bunker. Isn't there a pretty big white mosque somewhere in Istanbul? That one looks much better.


I don't know the white mosque. But I know the blue mosque (Ahmed Sultan Mosque). Wich is cool too but much more recent.

Jakob
December 5th, 2004, 08:15 PM
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Zafiris, mind what you're saying! I'm pretty sure that your Greek hate against Turks is speaking out of you. So, there's absolutely no place for your racial hatred here in this forum.

Evereyone knows that the Turks never destroyed treasures from other religions and that the Ottoman Empire was the first country in the world with freedom of worship. Or can you tell me why all eastern European countries are still christians though they were included into the (muslim) Ottoman Empire? Please check out this thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=152048

And if you knew anything about Ottoman and Turkish culture, you would'nt have said something like that! I'm pretty sure that you don't have a clue about it.

My father is Turkish and I've been many times to Greece and with a Turkish surname I wasn't recpected at all there. So, who's uncivilized Zafiris? Shame on you!

th0m
December 6th, 2004, 01:09 AM
From an architectural point of view its a 10, but adding the current state of it and ornaments inside and such, I would give it an 8.

Hardouin-Mansart
December 6th, 2004, 01:04 PM
^If it was a 10 it would never have needed so many additional buttresses.

That building never got perfect until reshaped or, rather, forgotten and surpassed in Sinan's mosques.

DamienK
December 14th, 2004, 11:16 PM
9/10

Matthieu
December 19th, 2004, 07:00 PM
I removed the offending content who was posted before I was a moderator. As our proverb says. Better late than never.

Ellatur
December 19th, 2004, 09:50 PM
did you no this is my favorite building?!

www.sercan.de
December 19th, 2004, 11:54 PM
some pics..

http://dunyaturk.com/tr31/k_Faruk_ayasofya2560.jpg
(+) click to enlarge (http://dunyaturk.com/tr31/Faruk_ayasofya2560.jpg)

http://dunyaturk.com/tr28/k_kemal_bereket_ayasofya2.jpg
(+) click to enlarge (http://dunyaturk.com/tr28/kemal_bereket_ayasofya2.jpg)

http://dunyaturk.com/tr27/k_Ahmet_Tolga_Tek_aya_ic1.jpg
(+) click to enlarge (http://dunyaturk.com/tr27/Ahmet_Tolga_Tek_aya_ic1.jpg)

http://dunyaturk.com/tr27/k_Ahmet_Tolga_Tek_aya_ic2.jpg
(+) click to enlarge (http://dunyaturk.com/tr27/Ahmet_Tolga_Tek_aya_ic2.jpg)

http://dunyaturk.com/tr18/k_memocan_ayasofya02.jpg
(+) click to enlarge (http://dunyaturk.com/tr18/memocan_ayasofya02.jpg)

www.sercan.de
December 20th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Parts of it look like a bunker. Isn't there a pretty big white mosque somewhere in Istanbul? That one looks much better.
maybe you mean the Süleymaniye?

Fabio
January 24th, 2005, 11:01 PM
7.5/10

because of its history and size

Monkey
April 16th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Does anyone have any better pics?

www.sercan.de
April 19th, 2005, 12:20 PM
http://wowturkey.com/tr45/kemal_bereket_ayasofyaa.jpg

System_Halted
April 26th, 2005, 05:20 PM
You may visit http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=152159 for more pics in Turkish Forum

http://www.istanbuldan.com/albums/tarihi_mekanlar/ayasofya/ayasofya01.JPG

http://dunyaturk.com/tr29/kemal_bereket_ayasofya_gece.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr32/Kazandibi_istanbulfromabove.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr17/memocan_ayasofya01.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr18/memocan_ayasofya01.jpg

3tmk
April 26th, 2005, 05:47 PM
I would never give anything less than a 10 to the Hagia Sophia.

Genç
April 26th, 2005, 06:11 PM
I would never give anything less than a 10 to the Hagia Sophia.
Same! :applause:

Metropolist
April 27th, 2005, 01:59 AM
http://www.patriarchate.org/ecumenical_patriarchate/chapter_4/assets/images/207_254_hagia_sophia.jpg

http://users.rowan.edu/~polikar/GIFS/ayasofya_muzesi.jpg

http://www.mkaz.com/photo/trips/turkey2004/IMG_0358.jpg

http://mk37.image.pbase.com/u18/andrys/upload/36247726.mImg_4095r.jpg

Phobos
April 27th, 2005, 11:04 PM
10/10
One of the wonders of the world

Istanbullu
April 27th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Hagia Sophia rocks! 10/10! :)

3tmk
April 28th, 2005, 09:46 PM
how is it possible that there isn't any thread about Edirne and the Selimiye mosque? :eek:
you Turks better get to work and find pics ;)

Matthieu
April 28th, 2005, 09:50 PM
^I haven't updated the list yet. We are waiting the new server to be fully operational to rework on the forum.

Syon
April 29th, 2005, 01:21 AM
I love Hagia Sofia, a 10 no doubt.

superskyline
April 29th, 2005, 01:23 AM
The interior is great!!

System_Halted
April 29th, 2005, 04:39 PM
how is it possible that there isn't any thread about Edirne and the Selimiye mosque? :eek:
you Turks better get to work and find pics ;)

I am gonna open one for you. ;)

forvine
December 18th, 2005, 10:42 AM
9.5/10

Reflex
December 21st, 2005, 09:42 PM
8.5/10.

Sinjin P.
December 23rd, 2005, 08:02 AM
8.5/10

www.sercan.de
January 27th, 2006, 03:52 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c347/stormicy4/73a40aeb.jpg

Skaros
January 27th, 2006, 04:32 PM
10

Sercan i like so much your last pic!! Thank you!!

Here is one of the amazing mosaics found in Hagia Sophia :

Mosaic (12th century)
Holy Mother of God holding Jesus between emperor John Comnenos Porfyrogennitos (1118-1143) and his wife Irene .

http://static.flickr.com/13/17538290_0068e70a9c_b.jpg

«Δόξα τω Θεώ, τω καταξιώσαντί με τοιούτον έργον έπιτελέσαι. Νενίκηκά σε Σολομών!»

(Oh, Solomon, I have surpassed thee... ) Emperor Justinian during dedication ceremony , Dec. 537 A.D.

Puto
January 27th, 2006, 04:36 PM
9.5/10 cause i dont like much the style.. but is an impressive building for sure ;)

www.sercan.de
January 27th, 2006, 04:58 PM
np Sarkos :D

BTW
i didin't know that
but some years ago it was yellow
in the 1950s
http://purl.dlib.indiana.edu/iudl/archives/cushman/full/P14632.jpg

http://purl.dlib.indiana.edu/iudl/archives/cushman/full/P14641.jpg


Photographer: Charles W. Cushman

Jules
January 28th, 2006, 07:13 AM
Not as good as the other one it's similar to. 8/10

crossbowman
May 2nd, 2006, 11:42 PM
Finally the original!
It should have been preserved in a better condition though... :(
9/10

marpa
May 3rd, 2006, 10:02 PM
7/10

Mali
May 6th, 2006, 03:46 AM
8.5/10

Skyman
May 8th, 2006, 04:03 PM
7/10

LordMarshall
May 14th, 2006, 09:15 AM
10/10

El_Greco
May 25th, 2006, 02:02 AM
9/10

Mosaic
May 31st, 2006, 10:25 AM
10/10

delmaule
November 14th, 2006, 02:58 AM
10/10

great184
November 14th, 2006, 05:41 AM
8.5 aesthetic wise...

great184
November 14th, 2006, 05:46 AM
9.5 for its cultural significance

lakerdar123
November 14th, 2006, 05:59 AM
gave it a 5.5/10 there are better mosques out there

Maltaboy
November 14th, 2006, 08:58 AM
I removed the offending content who was posted before I was a moderator. As our proverb says. Better late than never.

Thank you, I very much respect your action and I hope in the future SSC will not be a forum for racial hatred !!!

I give it a 9 !

gutooo
November 16th, 2006, 03:27 AM
10!

Popiel
January 3rd, 2008, 10:59 PM
10/10

LMCA1990
February 27th, 2008, 05:57 AM
10/10 - :drool:

Nikkodemo
June 23rd, 2008, 03:14 PM
Just a wonder!

10/10

W!CKED
July 8th, 2008, 07:51 PM
10/10

CreaTurco
November 21st, 2008, 01:06 AM
8/10

stasiua
November 21st, 2008, 01:52 AM
8,5/10


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