Do we have here in NYC the longest trains consisting of 8 cars 75 feet in length measuring 600 feet total? Are there any systems in the World running longer subway trains? I don't think so but if yes then where? Thanks for any help. :cheers:

Each KCR East Rail train in Hong Kong consists of 12 cars (281.8m, 924.54feet).
Each MTR Lantau line train in Hong Kong consists of 8 cars (184.2m, 604.33feet).
Each MTR urban line train in Hong Kong consists of 8 cars (178.16m, 584.51feet).

^ Isn't KCR commuter rail?

KCR is a part of Hong Kong's metro system.

The best we can muster is the Metropolitan Line A-Stock and Central Line 1992 Stock which both come in at 8 cars and 424ft total length (130m). The 8-car Victoria Line 1967 Stock is marginally shorter.

Each KCR East Rail train in Hong Kong consists of 12 cars (281.8m, 924.54feet).
Each MTR Lantau line train in Hong Kong consists of 8 cars (184.2m, 604.33feet).
Each MTR urban line train in Hong Kong consists of 8 cars (178.16m, 584.51feet).

281.8 meters!
that's loooooooong for a metro.

KCR is a sub-urban railway system.

KCR is hard to categorise...it's sort of like a heavy metro line from downtown up into the suburban towns. These categories are especially blurry because HK is in some ways a city and in some ways a collection of cities and suburban towns.
Trains run every 2-4 minutes, almost all with the same origin and destination. Occasionally some arrivals run shortened versions of these routes.

The BART system in the San Francisco Bay Area has 10 car trains that can measure up to 710 feet. *not 100% sure*

If you have 2 A-cars (75 feet) one on each end and 8 B-cars (70 feet) in the middle then that adds up to 710 feet for a 10 car train.

http://www.bart.gov/about/history/cars_2.asp

Yes, BART trains are in fact 710 feet (216 meters) long. The platforms are only 700 feet long though.

Wash DC also operates 8-car trains, with 75-foot car length, totalling up to 600 ft per train.

Again...BART is basically a commuter train...not mass urban transit. It's pretty obvious when you consider the headways...5-15 minutes in peak hours, and 20 minutes in off peak, limited weekend service....who the hell would use a subway with 20 minute headways??????

I don't see length as being so important...wouldn't capacity be more important?

A TTC "real" T-1 subway train may be just under 500 feet long (6 cars), but it has a maximum load of 1890 passengers...and that's every 2 minutes. A BART train may be longer, but it has a maximum capacity of 1500 passengers, and comes much less frequently.






KGB

Again...BART is basically a commuter train...not mass urban transit. It's pretty obvious when you consider the headways...5-15 minutes in peak hours, and 20 minutes in off peak, limited weekend service....who the hell would use a subway with 20 minute headways??????

I don't see length as being so important...wouldn't capacity be more important?

A TTC "real" T-1 subway train may be just under 500 feet long (6 cars), but it has a maximum load of 1890 passengers...and that's every 2 minutes. A BART train may be longer, but it has a maximum capacity of 1500 passengers, and comes much less frequently.
KGB
BART is a subway in all sense of the word, just like Washington DC's WMATA MetroRail.

In downtown SF the headways are 2 minutes, out in the 'burbs they're 7 or 15 minutes during the day and 20 minutes at night (like NYC). So realistically it's a subway extending out into the 'burbs.

The Yamanote Line in Tokyo runs 11 cars trains of about 200m in length

The Yamanote Line in Tokyo runs 11 cars trains of about 200m in length
710ft ~= 215 m, so they're LONG but not the longest :)

Aren't there 3 feet in a meter? So it would be more around 236 meters.

1 metre = 3.2808 Feet

Yamanote Line needs those 11 cars. That line by itself carries millions a day.

710ft ~= 215 m, so they're LONG but not the longest :)

Aren't there 3 feet in a meter? So it would be more around 236 meters.

Subways in Tokyo range from 6 to 10 cars, I believe. The Hanzomon (named after Hattori Hanzo, for you Kill Bill fans), Chiyoda, and Tozai lines are 10 cars, and all connect with commuter rail lines. JR has longer trains, like the Yamanote, and the Tokaido/Yokosuka/Shonan Shinjuku lines have 15 car sets, with 2 "green" class or reserved seat cars.

in Stockholm subway depending on wich line,

8 cars - 145m
10 cars - 180m

What I noticed is that Hong Kong's train cars are quite long compared to most other heavy rail systems. I usually see 3-4 pairs of doors per car in most metros, but HK's has 5 for all MTR and KCR lines. One train car is actually quite long, and MTR runs 8 of these per train. KCR runs 12 car trains on its main line.

Other cities that have 5 door pairs per compartment are Shenzhen and Guangzhou. Any others?

NYC had 10-car trains...once upon a time in the 80's, didn't they?

What I noticed is that Hong Kong's train cars are quite long compared to most other heavy rail systems. I usually see 3-4 pairs of doors per car in most metros, but HK's has 5 for all MTR and KCR lines. One train car is actually quite long, and MTR runs 8 of these per train. KCR runs 12 car trains on its main line.

Other cities that have 5 door pairs per compartment are Shenzhen and Guangzhou. Any others?

I think the length of train cars is generally the same. Its just that MTR & KCR fits in more doors into each train car side for more passengers to embark/disembark easily and quickly.

NYC had 10-car trains...once upon a time in the 80's, didn't they?
It still does, BMT/IND lines generally have either 8 75 foot cars or 10 60 foot cars (there are some exceptions), and the IRT lines (with the exception of the 42nd street shuttle, which has the shortest trains in the system) have 10 or more 50 foot cars.

It still does, BMT/IND lines generally have either 8 75 foot cars or 10 60 foot cars (there are some exceptions), and the IRT lines (with the exception of the 42nd street shuttle, which has the shortest trains in the system) have 10 or more 50 foot cars.

Ohh okay.

Do people generally still differentiate between the different companies?

Because it would probably start to get confusing for people not used to the system.

^Not really, they were integrated into the NYCT over 50 years ago, since then the BMT and IND have been integrated, but the IRT tunnels are somewhat narrower than the BMT/IND tunnels, which were built to the same standard. So BMT/IND trains can't go through IRT tunnels, and while IRT trains can go through BMT/IND tunnels, they can't use them for passenger service since the BMT/IND platforms were designed for wider trains.
They're now called the A and B divisions by the TA, but it's not used by the public. The only way you as a passenger can tell it's an IRT line is the numbered line(instead of lettered) and the narrower and shorter cars.

The only way you as a passenger can tell it's an IRT line is the numbered line(instead of lettered) and the narrower and shorter cars.Don't forget that BMT/IND cars have 4 doors per side while IRT cars only 3 doors!
And because of the competition of these three systems there is a maze in Downtown Brooklyn - try to make a transfer from the IND to others at Hoyt-Schermerhorn! :nuts:
with the exception of the 42nd street shuttle, which has the shortest trains in the system(3 or 4 cars of R62 51'4" each) There is also the Franklin Shuttle with 2 cars 75' each (R68). Off-topic: Some portion of this line is a single rail. I rode this line twice or more and I like it. :) It's a victory of the local community over the MTA. :) :cheers:


IRT's 7 line has 11 cars per train but it's only 168,3 m long.
The longest train in the BMT/IND system:
Most commonly trainsets:
8 cars 75' long each in a train = 183m.
8 or 10 cars 60' long = 146m or the same 183m long train.