The former site of the Georgian.

Theyre landscaping it atm (i saw some small construction/landscaping mchinery on the site yesterday, clearying dirt or soemthing)

Their application says "Landscaping of Vacant building site prior to subdivision as (Temporary) open space."

why are they doing that? what do they gain from making it into a small park?

That was always going to be an option after Devine let The Georgian go (shame about that - it was one of their better designs).

I didn't know it was going to be subdivided though.

What are they going to gain from it?

Not much in the near future, and neither Brisbane another 40-storey apartment building yet.

well it is a big block of land. You could divide it up and put multiple tall towers on it.

Let's hope that it isn't subvided and the parcels sold off individually so all that ends up there are 8-12 storey commie blocks.

We'd hope that most of, if not all, are swooped up for the one grand development.

Splitting it too much will infact ruin it.

they could split it in 2 and fit 2 decent sized buildings (130-150m)

The Georgian was quite a solid form with a huge footprint.

Its height before any spire to be added was to be 145m The Georgian (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=153452). If the site can get 2 buildings of similar height, great!!

2 years have lapsed since Devine pulled the plug.

I heard that another developer was building a High-Rise Office Block on that site.

whered u hear that

Anymore on this dud of a site?

that is PRIME land and a supertower should be built. Im so spewing about The Georgian.

patience - something better and hopefully taller will evolve in time. The axeing of Georgian was a blessing in disguise my friend. Hopefully it will be resi tho. We need more people in the city to create vibrancy

^^ we have tons of resis UC, approved and proposed. i want this to be a massive office tower. anything less that 200m will be a misuse ;)

Here Here!!!!

I concur =D

I have also heard about plans to subdivide the site and build a commercial tower on one of the subdivisions. However, I have also heard that the developers are interested in a mixed use tower for the site. This is all only hearsay really though > My guess would be that the overall site will be used for Commercial, Resi and Retail, but whether it will be as one big tower, or multiple smaller towers - we'll just have to wait and see (fingers crossed it will be one larger tower).

Mixed use is a fantastic way to drive up the height of a tower. I suggest it has retail, office and resi. And be 230m plus!

Or else... *shakes fist at developers*

Or else we will charge at them in a furious battle .. charge wielding all manner of weapons.

Hey we could do what those hippies do to stop people logging in forests! We can all set up camp on the site and only move when a big enough tower is set to be built! :D

LOL!

I like the plan. I like it alot.

But we would need to tap into the phone line and set up some comps for us to still access scc.

Anything under 200m is a total waste of this site, and ditto for the remaining land at Qld Place. 2 huge buildings in this area would help balance out the skyline finally.

QLD Place 2?

When will the older law courts be moved form the site near Brisbane Square.

And when will BAC be demolished (or at least half the site used for a new tower and half refurbed as was the other design)

Other prime sites are the 2 carparks on Albert St (Charlotte+Albert, and the Margaret+Albert)

Yep... all will be wasted if they dont get 200m+ towers.

^ margaret and albert would pose shadow concerns on the gardens not that it affected Vision, however id doubt any other tower would be built if it were to cast shadows upon the gardens.

just on the shadow topic, ive noticed that Brisbane Square has greatly reduced sunlight at the top of the mall.

Hey Malt, which building is the BAC????

diagonal to Bris Square.

U prob see it every day.

Brisbane Admin Centre. Corner of George and Adelaide.

I heard that another developer was building a High-Rise Office Block on that site.

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Not so hush-hush anymore, what with the information being plastered all over an internet forum and all :)

Hey we could do what those hippies do to stop people logging in forests! We can all set up camp on the site and only move when a big enough tower is set to be built! :DLOL I'll fly up for sure.

C'mon JayT and marty k....no secrets around here. What else do you know or that's it?

LOL I'll fly up for sure.

C'mon JayT and marty k....no secrets around here. What else do you know or that's it?
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Cheers, sounds promising.

As long as it's a "big" developer and not some big talkin' wannabe :blahblah:

glass plz.

Theres none over that side of the city (bar Bris Square)

and state law

true, i had forgotten :)

i was walking through this area yesterday (sunday) and it was a deadset ghost town. having grass laid on that sitet doesnt give me much confidence that much is going on. same for the old carpark besides the magistrates. we could have some massive towers here coz the land is so big.

Theres no rush for development here. They should refrain from building any mediocre residential garbage until they have a worthy development. The area has a lot of potential. I dont want to see any more devine like junk or admiralty crap. PLEASE don't waste all the good land left on rubbish.

If you read my post Maroon, it stated they were building temporary public space (park/grass) so it wasnt sitting there as a neglected dirt patch while they were deciding what to do.

It is temporary. More developers should do that.

Isn't it a BCC requirement to landscape land that will not be developed for sometime?
I think back to the Brisbane Square site and also the Macquarthur site, both had lawns and trees planted for the few years they were vacant.

Yes, you're right bribri - it's a BCC requirement, so the city doesn't have holes in the ground, or dusty plots, on sites such as these.

I'd love to see something big on this site - The Georgian would've been great. :( That end of the CBD needs a lift.

The site is currently up for sale with the option of purchasing it and the McDonnell & East Building as one lot, although McDonnell & East is heritage listed so they can't knock it down.

400 George St (http://www.propertylook.com.au/listing/default.asp?lk=46184)
McDonnell & East (http://www.propertylook.com.au/listing/default.asp?lk=46199)

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CBRE/CBRE_56/300/CBRE_56_46184_38861.jpg

I hope its only the facade of McDonnell & East thats heritage listed, last i looked it seemed to be gutted on the inside.

The site is currently up for sale with the option of purchasing it and the McDonnell & East Building as one lot, although McDonnell & East is heritage listed so they can't knock it down.

At long last! Every time I've been to Brisbane, this site has just had nothing on it. I would have thought it'd be developed on long ago. Thank heavens it's finally up for sale (so that something useful can be done with it).

The site is currently up for sale with the option of purchasing it and the McDonnell & East Building as one lot, although McDonnell & East is heritage listed so they can't knock it down.

400 George St (http://www.propertylook.com.au/listing/default.asp?lk=46184)
McDonnell & East (http://www.propertylook.com.au/listing/default.asp?lk=46199)

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CBRE/CBRE_56/300/CBRE_56_46184_38861.jpg

that fugly piece of shit is heritage listed???? god what has this world come to :bash:

Looks like a pretty big site.

Great site for a nice tall tower!

Anything less than 180m+ is injustice to the sites potential.

that fugly piece of shit is heritage listed???? god what has this world come to :bash:

Only cause its from the 18th century.

^^ Well actually it was built in several stages between 1912 and 1963 according to the Queensland Heritage Register. You can view its page here (http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/projects/heritage/index.cgi?place=600120&back=1). I assume the interior could be demolished to just leave the facade, that seems to be the case with most heritage buildings. AS GMAC said McDonnell & East kind of already is gutted anyway. There's no ground floor anymore, just a hole straight down to the basement. I think I remember a couple of years ago some bloke was staggering home after a big night and ended falling down a hole in the McDonnell & East Building and had to be rescued.

http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3869/mcdonnelleast9dx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Because the McDonnell & East site is heritage listed it has a transferrable site area. What this means that a purchaser of the two lots can build to a higher density on 400 George Street than would be possible if they just purchased 400 George Street alone.

It recognises the restrictions placed on the heritage listed building.

I doubt that they could just maintain the facade in this case. Facades by themselves seem to be retained only when the rest of the building has already been demolished.

If you've ever walked on the bike track on the side of the river (under the riverside expressway), you can see a lot of really old buildings that are really ugly and look unused. Many of which could be demolished and be used as a development site.

that fugly piece of shit got heritaged listed ? im sure people have said the same thing about all the other old buildings preserved in our cities here :

if you haven't worked it out, its in pretty bad shape : i figure when its heritaged listed it means they have to restore it and preserve it .... umm bit like the GPO in mlebourne or QVB or any other such building that has past its useby date; that it is reused for something new.

Can anyone clarify why one would want to keep the facade only and not the entire building? So people wish to embrace a disneyland-esque city fabric where we have facades that have no relation to the buildings behind them?
its all a bit of a con really isn't it ?

or is it gimmicky and people love gimmicks : pretend theyre walking down the queen st mall around the Myer Centre and go wow what wonderful old buildings we have preserved .. but dont look TOO closely cuz all thats left is the facade and we'll just IGNORE the fact that there is this hideously huge box full of retail space right behind it that has no relationwith the interior and exterior...

:)

18th century is the 1700s dude

19th century is the 1800s dude

I know. I was trying to pouint out that it was old.And if it's heritage listed, I don't see why it's for sale. The only reason anybody would ever want to buy it is to demolish and develop on it.

Well it's been marketed as a refurbishment oppurtunity (but also mentions it as having transferable site area like duke said - I guess that would be one of the mejor attractions if you're buying 400 George as well) Property Look ad (http://www.propertylook.com.au/listing/default.asp?lk=46199)

It scrubs up alright doesn't it?
http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CBRE/CBRE_56/300/CBRE_56_46199_38975.jpg

if you haven't worked it out, its in pretty bad shape : i figure when its heritaged listed it means they have to restore it and preserve it .... umm bit like the GPO in mlebourne or QVB or any other such building that has past its useby date; that it is reused for something new.



Niether Melbourne's GPO and QVB are good examples to use since both are much older, have a more significant history and were better preserved in the first place. I would say that the buildings on this site are candidates for partial demolition with preservation of the facade simply based on the details in the heritage register - they mention very little of the innards of the building, instead focusing on the unique characteristics of the facade.



Can anyone clarify why one would want to keep the facade only and not the entire building? So people wish to embrace a disneyland-esque city fabric where we have facades that have no relation to the buildings behind them?
its all a bit of a con really isn't it ?

or is it gimmicky and people love gimmicks : pretend theyre walking down the queen st mall around the Myer Centre and go wow what wonderful old buildings we have preserved .. but dont look TOO closely cuz all thats left is the facade and we'll just IGNORE the fact that there is this hideously huge box full of retail space right behind it that has no relationwith the interior and exterior...

:)

You're obviously not a fan of facadism. :)

I suppose the idea is that some preservation is better than none.

usually the building itself is just a big crappy warehouse, covered by a nice sandstone facade at the front. hence the facade is the only thing that gets heritage listed.

City News today has an article saying that Leighton Properties and Grosvernor Australia have plans for an $18.9 million dollar, A-Grade commercial development for this site. No mention of floor space.

$18.9 million :bash: if City News is correct (which i hop not), $18.9 million will buy you crap!!!!!!! Im guessing we can expect something small on this site! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Yeah I just read that too, very disappointing!!

Remember, this site was subdivided so it could be on a small plot rather than the prime intersection site.

Remember, this site was subdivided so it could be on a small plot rather than the prime intersection site.

it was??? maybe theres still hope then!

I thought the plan was to subdivide some of the site, but that it hadn't actually happened yet??

It's gonna be an office tower on this site!

This article is about Central Plaza 3 but it mentions that 400 George Street will get a 30,000+ sqm office tower, by '+' I hope they mean like 70,000;) If not, hope it's thin as Kate Moss.

New CP3 Tower backinlimelight
17 Feb, 2006; The Courier-Mail

AFTER more than a decade of waiting, Central Plaza 3 is finally set to become a reality.

Leasing agents have been appointed to find tenants for the 14- storey office tower.

The announcement comes as surging rents and the lowest vacancy rates on record create an environment ripe for the development of new CBD buildings.

QIC has lodged a development application for CP3, which will sit beside the existing CP2 building and behind CP1.

At the same time owner QIC Real Estate has also revealed plans for an 11-storey office tower at 140 Elizabeth St which will offer another 10,000sq m of floor space to the tight office market.

The former National Australia Bank building on the site has already been demolished. The new development will also include 9500sq m of premium retail space fronting the Queen St and Albert St malls.

Jones Lang LaSalle and PRDnationwide have been appointed to jointly manage the commercial leasing of the Elizabeth St tower while Jones Lang LaSalle and Ray White Asset Leasing have been appointed to jointly handle CP3 which will have 11,000sq m of commercial space.

QIC Real Estate general manager Laurie Brindle believes tenant demand for both buildings will be high following revelations by the Property Council of Australia last week that Brisbane had one of the lowest commercial vacancy rates of any capital city in Australia.

He said that with the predicted low supply of quality office space, QIC Real Estate was confident of securing commitment from suitable tenants for both new properties.

"Both developments are in prime CBD locations and we believe are poised to capitalise on the lack of A-grade properties available," he said.

With vacancy rates at an all-time low, a number of developers confirmed this week they would push ahead with plans to either build or refurbish office space in the CBD.

As rents continue to rise in the CBD the high cost of construction in Queensland no longer appears such a huge hurdle to providing new office space.

Mitch Nielsen of Indigo confirmed he was just waiting for the Brisbane City Council to vacate the former Brisbane Administration Centre in August or September so it could start transforming it into Northbank Plaza, which will provide 26,000sq m of renovated office space.

Indigo, Charter Hall and Trident Corporation have joined together to redevelop the building and is also considering building a second office tower on the site.

"We want to do something," Mr Nielsen said. "We are in the process of looking at alternatives for the site."

Charter Hall plans to refurbish a 14-level, 6100sq m office building on the corner of George and Tank Sts to B-grade standard in a project scheduled for completion later this year.

Leasing director Emil Joubert said Brisbane was a very appealing market to be developing in.

The organisation hoped to be involved in other projects in the CBD.

Ross Nielson Properties will refurbish 30 Herschel St in the next month or two, providing about 2300sq m of space for lease. Its site at 37 Tank St has been earmarked for an office tower of 21,000sq m.

Mr Nielson hopes a development application will be through in September with construction to start later in the year.

Meanwhile at 400 George St, Leighton and Grosvenor are pushing ahead with plans to develop a large office tower.

Bob Borger of Leighton confirmed plans were progressing. He hoped a DA would be lodged soon.

Although details on the exact size of the development are still being worked out Mr Borger said they were considering offering more than 30,000sq m to the market.

A 9100sq m complex at 299 Adelaide St is being developed by a company associated with the Pidgeon family and work is expected to start soon on Australand's Vision development, which straddles Mary and Margaret streets.

It will offer 27,000sq m of commercial space and 5000sq m of retail.

Citimark which is refurbishing the former Brisbane Magistrates Court has also offered 179 North Quay to the leasing market this week.

GROWING SPACE

Floor space to be offered in

commercial properties in

Brisbane CBD.

Central Plaza 3 11,000sq m

37 Tank St 21,000sq m

Northbank Plaza 26,000sq m

Vision 27,000sq m

400 George St more than 30,000sq m

Colliers put the figure at 40,000 sq m last year, so they may have downgraded. They better not have....

australand's vision development? uhhhhhhh... duhhh.

a billboard frame has been erected on this site very recently. I also saw some excavators in the fenced area behind McDonnel's & East.

Maybe there is some action beginning to take place here. The billboard frame is a dead giveaway.

http://www.ourbrisbane.com/public/DAServlet/942862?pagenumber=1

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Nothing up yet... + I dunno if 388 George is the same as 400 George. Ill look into it more

^^

yeah it is. look at the boundaries of the application

414 George St, Brisbane, QLD 4000
47 Tank St, Brisbane, QLD 4000
388 George St, Brisbane, QLD 4000
39 Tank St, Brisbane, QLD 4000
48 Turbot St, Brisbane, QLD 4000

i checked the UBD and these no's are situated on this site

Don't have much hope for this one, Leighton have a track record of building stumpy dull commercial boxes without fail, and by the sounds of it they plan to do the exact same on this site. Think it'll likely be another Macarthur Central type building. Indigo's proposal across the road is holding out as a a much more interesting prospect.

any pics on this one?

The DA listed above is just for the redevelopment of McDonnell & East into retail and office, however in the article in the CM today there are renders of the buildings around McDonnell & East. The first along Tank Street is about 27 levels, while the building along George has been cut off quite low but looks like it could be larger.

There is a rendering of Mac&East building in todays prime site - behind it is what looks like a large glass tower but the top can't be seen so its impossible to see how tall it is. It does however have some Brisbane Squarish traits except more glass.

Any one got a pic of this rendering by chance?

I'm a bit confused, which is which? the 27 level building is Leighton proposal?, and the larger glass tower is the BAC second tower?

There is a rendering of Mac&East building in todays prime site - behind it is what looks like a large glass tower but the top can't be seen so its impossible to see how tall it is. It does however have some Brisbane Squarish traits except more glass.
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8531/maceast8pa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cheers JayT, if you look in the reflection of the glassy ultra stumpy 'towers' in the background, you can see the reflection of the one up close that you can't see the top of. Either it's about 100m tall or the reflection simply gets lost on the glass.

I don't know, even though you can't see the top, it doesn't feel like a tallie or even a semi-tallie, hope I'm wrong though!:)

In fact, I think using perspective sight lines and that reflection we can work out the genearl size of the tower. I think it will be like, shorter than the one in the background in fact.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/674/ung10st.jpg

So, next!

Total waste of the site. Disgraceful.

Your perspective lines are fine except you have lines coming from the far right side, where the far building meets the street, and you line them up with the other tower which is quite a way back from the street. You would need to do perspective lines 90 degrees angle to the ones you have now to match it correctly

I know Malt, some of those lines are only guide lines and not the actual perspective lines of the building, merely the street perspective lines as you say, but I needed to draw them in to work out the other lines, though of course with them all crisscrossing it can look like the ones running along the street go to the building but they don't. It it was 3D you could see they run infront of it. I did compensate for the building being set back from the street, though maybe I should have made the street lines a diff colour.

In any case, it's a real shorty, but not unexcpected.

Well there is a DA up for this now, no pdf's yet but can't expect it to be too long.

here's the colour version of that picture... I don't actually mind this! I mean its nice architecture on these two buildings! better than Brisbane Square's architecture for sure! but of course not as high.. you can also see it Here! (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=333109)
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/404.jpg

^^ how do u know that they are the exact replicas of what is proposed. they could have made them up!

^
he doesn't, but since both the redevelopment of McDonnell & East and the new building(s) are done by the same developer, it would seem strange for them to expend effort making something up when they know the design of the project and will have to produce such renders for the real project anyway.

better than Brisbane Square's architecture for sure!

A pretty bold statement to make on the basis of a partial render.

Were making pretty big assumptions on their heights considering all were going on is 1 reflection that isnt even obviously the building in question

^
he doesn't, but since both the redevelopment of McDonnell & East and the new building(s) are done by the same developer, it would seem strange for them to expend effort making something up when they know the design of the project and will have to produce such renders for the real project anyway.

I thought one was Leighton Properties & the other Ross Neilson Properties (RNP)

^
Mac & East is John Fletcher Properties group, but I believe Leightons is still involved since the site was not subdivided. Ross Neilson Properties has something in Herschel Street a block away.

^^ i saw RNP signs on the Mc&E site fence yesterday

In todays CM - 32 levels, 42,000 sqm. Never expected much from this site but this should be around 120-140m I think, so another Brisbane Square, so could have been worse I guess.

New hub for Valley - Major highrise for CBD
The Courier-Mail, 21 Apr 2006.

PLANS are in the hands of Brisbane City Council to redevelop a prominent Fortitude Valley corner site and build a 32-level office tower in the CBD, as the city gets ready to ride a new wave of development.

In what will be a major step in revitalising the heart of the Valley, Forwin International Investments is proposing to create a new retail and office hub at the corner of Brunswick and Wickham streets.

Meanwhile, joint venture partners Leighton Properties and Grosvenor Australia have lodged a development application to build 42,000sq m of office space on a 2902sq m site at 400 George St.

The development was mooted towards the end of last year, but is closer to becoming a reality with the release of the first picture of the CBD's next A-Grade office building.

Grosvenor Australia director Graham Livingstone said building tenders would soon be called.

Steve Rutter and Mark McCann of Knight Frank in conjunction with Mark Curtain and Adam Barrett of Jones Lang LaSalle have been appointed as leasing agents.

Mr Livingstone said the building would help to ease the dire lack of office space in the CBD, particularly for tenants looking for a large amount of space.

"We're hoping to attract a large user to occupy a substantial part of the building," Mr Livingstone said.

He said a proposal had already been submitted to Investa Property Group, which was appointed by Suncorp Metway to find new CBD accommodation in the 30,000sq m to 40,000sq m range.

Leighton Properties Queensland manager Bob Borger said the development would be best described as a "vertical village" aimed at satisfying employer and employee needs.

The new development would boast a gymnasium, childcare facilities, lobby coffee shop, food court and function centre.

Construction is expected to start later this year, with completion scheduled for early 2009.

The joint venture partners bought the site, surrounded by Brisbane's new Magistrates Court, Commonwealth Law Courts and the planned District Courts, for $18.9 million last year.

Just outside the CBD, Forwin International Investments is planning to redevelop 234 Wickham St, a rundown building sitting on a prominent 223sq m corner site.

The plan is to build an additional level on to the two-storey building and make the ground floor a retail and restaurant precinct, with office space on the upper levels.

Urban Planning chairman David Hinchliffe said the corner site had been an "eyesore" for at least 10 years.

"The main thing we were keen on was to see the aesthetic of the site improved," he said.

The DA is up now as well:

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7185/tr16hp.jpg

Building Height=144.5m

Well that's okay, weren't expecting Sears tower with Leighton doing it, but 145m will complement Brisbane Square well, and it's all glass, so it gets a pass grade.

Not bad.

140-150m seems to be the sweet spot for commerial buildings in Brisbane atm, any higher it would probably have to go multi use eg Riparian.

This is a much better use of the site than that aweful devine residential proposal a couple of years ago.

RL of 159m. Not too bad.

RENDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george4.jpg

Looks pretty good.

Building Height=140.5m

The top of the plant room is at 159.0m RL and access is at 14.5m RL, so the building would be 144.5m. Certainly decent sized.

The bit I like about this building is

Construction is expected to start later this year, with completion scheduled for early 2009.

I got the 140.5m out of the consultants reports, but if it's 144.5 then even better! I adjusted my post:)

The good thing here is this is some badly needed glass for this end of the town, along with Empire Square and Brisbane Square and Northbank this side of the city is going to flourish over the coming years.

Excellent, looks great.

Now if only they can finish of the other side of George St, the Magistrates court was a start, but when you think Roma Street fruit and veg markets were moved to Rocklea in the 60's, it's been a ugly hole in the city for a long time.

Looks great! :) A height of 140m is actually quite good 'cos it's basically about the same height as the Riverside Centre. So it should make quite a positive impact on the skyline.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8573/george26xk.jpg

Just me, or does it remind anyone of a glass lower half of riparian?..... just me? k....

I think it might be just you

Not bad, very stocky looking building. I don't care as long as we have more and more glass.

Just me, or does it remind anyone of a glass lower half of riparian?..... just me? k....

That's what I thought when I first saw it as well because of the setback level with exposed columns.

Nice design, the Brisbane skyline needs a bit of bulk as well as tall, thin apartment towers.

Who's the design by? The glass in the renders looks very similar to that of SX in this render. Is it Woods Bagot by any chance?
http://www.architectureaustralia.com/resources/aa/2003/03/images/010701.jpg.

Nice one, and good to see theyve used very recent photos as their backdrop, and to think in those last two views posted by Maroon Grown we will have Evolution too, and both rising at roughly the same time.

Now all we need in this area is for a 200m tower to rise in Queensland Place. Maybe even demolish the back half of DPI and build another tall there, its all looking very positive for this end of town!!!!

Street Level areas look pretty good too.

Design is by Cox Rayner I believe Archiebomber.

Yeah I like the street level foyer it's nice.

The BAC tower 2 site is very close, should be a DA soon, about 60,000 sqm so a nice taller office tower to complement 400 George Street, and help create a nice commercial district here.

^^Thanks for that as it leads me to my next question on the facade. Cox did the new AXA HQ at Docklands and the initial render looked like this (very similar to 400 George).

http://www.melbournephotos.net/images/.misc/axa2.jpg

The latest render looks like this.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9619/axadocklands2zp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So I wonder if the glass of 400G will have a greenish tint or whether it'll be clear.

dippy question, but this is the vacent lot where the georgian was meant to go yeah?

^^ yep

Nice one, and good to see theyve used very recent photos as their backdrop, and to think in those last two views posted by Maroon Grown we will have Evolution too, and both rising at roughly the same time.
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plus the refurb that hutchies is doing next door to evolution

See! I told you guys this would be good! It looks like a very nice top quality building! :)

Emporis hasn't been updated yet, but even so it is amazing at the amount going up in Brisbane now. I'm excited!!!

I gotta admit, I am very pleasantly surprised by this. 145m is a good height, and the design is pretty nice. I really like the foyer.

Jeez, brissie's loving the buildings with exposed sections part way up them at the mo, don't they? Riparian, brissie square, vision, 400 george, (possibly empire square - there's a strip about a quarter of the way up that I can't tell if it is or not...) but still - that's nearly every major scraper goin up....

A closer view.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1391/george57pl.jpg

For those who like neon signage it looks like it is planned...

Cheers Orfeo, that facade is very interesting from up close. A great addition to this side of the river!

What a great design. Would be better if it was in the 160-175m range, but still, it'll be a great addition to this already quite dense part of town.

yeah add another 30m to it and ill be happy :)

Its not impossible. Either way im happy with this.

its gonna look pretty tall coz it will be the highest in the area. the nearest competitor is Brisbane Sq and they are roughly the same height. it will definatly stand out

A closer view.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1391/george57pl.jpg

For those who like neon signage it looks like it is planned...

YES! Thanks Orfeo! A neon of the top? which side?

^
All sides. From the riverfront it will be on the little box on the left side of the building.

RL of 159m. Not too bad.

RENDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/400george4.jpg

Looks pretty good.


I really like it. I actually prefer this building to many of the others that have tone up on the eastern side of the cbd. IMO this will be great for the Western end of the CBD and along with Brisbane Square will make that skyline very nice to look at.

Its all good.

Regarding the council webpage - DA online. Is it just me or is that thing painfully slow in downloading PDF's. Its very annoying.

A closer view.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1391/george57pl.jpg

For those who like neon signage it looks like it is planned...

Unfortunately this view will never be a reality because Evolution will rise to 37 storeys to the right hand side of the brown building on the left hand side of the render.

Very impressive, unique as well

CRAP! ^^ GOD! there's just so much going on i forgot about evolution!! The CBD is like an unkept backyard... Its continues to grow, VERY TALL WEEDS! LOL!
whats the link JayT?

You'll find it at

http://www.ourbrisbane.com/servlet/Search/psf/file/search?applicationForm.fileType=pa&applicationForm.appNum=944018

Thanks Jayt! Nice foyer!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/400.jpg

The tower component is looking great but still trying to get my head around the crown tho' - looks funky. ...but why does Australia persist in including only 1, 2 or if very lucky, 3-storey lobbies? The above render displays what only looks like a 1-storey (higher than the office floors however) lobby with a 2-level podium above it. Seems it will make interesting streetscape though.

Some countries build monumental 5-6 storey lobbies on a regular basis that are great for P.R. on a corporate level - I know a couple exist in Oz, so no need to rattle them off, and I guess every square metre of space to be utilised is of great $$$ importance (@ least in short-term brackets), instead of said on-site corporate P.R..

*soft rant over*

I love watercolour and ink renders. Hard to do but if you can nail them they look supoib.

A closer view.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1391/george57pl.jpg

For those who like neon signage it looks like it is planned...

Looks nice, render is a little misleading, a building was recently demolished in Tank Street, so you won't see anywhere near as much building

^^ Yeah, evolution will be right in front of it... but from Southbank and Northbank you would be able to see it better i think...

:Phttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6004/omgterriblelol9yh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Really bad but its just an indication lol

Looks messy, don't like the inconsistent vertical lines. (Looks like something made out of randomly sized bits of lego.)

lol, I think it looks kinda real!

Looks messy, don't like the inconsistent vertical lines. (Looks like something made out of randomly sized bits of lego.)


What...like Brisbane Square???

So...

Height: 144.5m (159.0m RL)
Floors (above ground): 32
Floors (below ground): 4
Site Area: 2902 sqm
Floor Plates: 1614 sqm or 1621 sqm
Gross Floor Area: 49 617 sqm
Net Lettable Area: 41 893 sqm
Lifts: 15
Carparks: 217
Developer: Leighton Properties
Architect: Cox Rayner

I like stats :)

so at 144.5m its not really that much shorter then brisbane square

5m

Actually 6m. :)

its actually higher then brisbane square. the bulk of this bldg is basically the top of the white plantroom @ 144.5m. Brisbanes squares roof = 143m.thus 1.5m lower.
400 george sts RL is also higher at 159m compared to bris sq 157m.(LMR=165m)

Heres a real quick elevation comparison..
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5986/400georgest9ws.jpg

Great diagram Culwulla, this is Brisbane Square Mark II, rewind!

Still, this thing is 145m and has 30-35,000 sqm of office, yeah that's alright, but they you think about it, twice the sqm office space would have gotten us a 290m office building! ...and how easy would it be to fill two of these things in the current and predicted market, what with Telstra, gov and business on the hunt. Someone needs to step up to the plate!

To see more renders including internal render shots in the Gallery menu above, go to 400 George Street (http://www.400george.com) --> Then click on to "The Future @ work" to see said renders.

From an advertisment in yesterday's Financial Review, Thurs. 11/05/2006:

Render of 400 George St - forgive shitty quality:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/503/379400George_StreetrenderAA.JPG

...and one of the lobby areas:

________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/503/379400georgeStlobbyrender2.jpg

There is a full page ad on page 95 of today's Courier Mail. Has high quality version of the render in Muse's post.

Not wasting any time are they. Thing they want to get a jump on the competition by the looks of it!

When is construction starting????

One important stat that I forgot - floor to floor height, which for 400 George Street is 3.75m, with plant floor in the middle 7.5m, top plant floor 6.5m. Some food for thought: if the floor height of the 28 tower office floors was 4.00m, as offices often are, then the building would have been 151.5m rather than 144.5m - that decision cost us another 150m+ scraper :)

^ this happens alot. i remember a couple of highrise resis in brisbane recently completed. the floor to floor heights were 3m but were later reduced to 2.85m, thus reducing height but keeping same number of floors. all has to do with $$$$.

http://www.taxonline.com.au/buildings/400George.jpg

Only shame is that is will block that view of the courts, but it's a good design so I'm sure I'll get over it.

Wow, the site looks a lot better than it did when I was last in Brisbane. And I had to look at it outside my hotel window. Turning development sites into temporary green space is such a great idea. By the way what used to be on this site? How long has it been vacant?

A sign has popped up on site advertising that leasing is now available. Does this mean its approved? OR is it just common practice to pre-advertise early gauge the interest??

^^^

I think it is approved!! Here's the website http://www.400george.com/

^^ it wasnt even lodged that long ago. i doubt it. If its an impact assessment, it will be a while. if its code, it wont be as long and im guessing that there is a referral agency in QT as it is within 400m of a rail corridor. i doubt its approved yet unless they moved very quickly

It isn't approved yet...check out:http://www.ourbrisbane.com/public/DAServlet/944018

The link tells us:

The following Approvals are being sought, but are not yet approved:

* Building Works Preliminary Approval
* Material Change of Use Development Permit

Where does it say the overall project isn't approved or pardon, am I missing something? How could the developers be advertising in the likes of the Fin Rev and also have a website up 'n running if the project isn't approved?

Sorry, just edited

this sounds promising for a 2006 start. ill add to diagrams anyway.

i reckon the glass will end up the same colour as brissy square and state law building.

I wouldnt complain, we need more darker glass buildings in bris

I took this pic today. Redevelopment of the old McDonnell & East building is underway.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/cj_81_/400GeorgeDemo.jpg

I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but this building should have a rooftop bar on the 32nd level.

i know this isnt approved but the site has now been fenced off and there were drilling rigs there this arvo when i drove by.

Another floor as been added - now 150.36m to roof (164.86m RL). Can someone update the thread and Emporis?

Looking over the renders of the taller version I can't say I'm a fan of the changes they made, all pretty minor stuff, but they broke up the smooth facadeo one side and extruded the edges which makes it look like a 1970's glass box as opposed to 2000's glass box.

But anyway, taller than Brisbane Square now no?

Anyone know more about Forwin International Investments?

When are we expected to hear anything on this (or when was it first submitted to council?) I couldn't seem to get into the DA.

If you do a DA search, it's listed as 388 George St. Some correspondance became available for online viewing yesterday but nothing exciting yet.

Approvals have been given for operational works on application number 954734 for roadworks and stormwater/drainage.

A couple of photos I took quickly today while driving past the McDonell & East building refurb.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/cj_81_/DSC00430.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/cj_81_/DSC00428.jpg

If they do this well... this building could become a shining jewel of the CBD..

This one still isn't approved yet, so if it doesn't happen before christmas, hopefully it won't be long into the new year when it is.

BTW, if anyone hasn't seen them, this is the page with the revised DA: http://www.ourbrisbane.com/government/transactions/search/stuff/psf/bcc/w/m/g/mumr/pa944018_0041.pdf

^^HAs anything major changed??

^^ I think just a few changes like 1 floor taller, 5m, and minor design tweaks to the exterior, and I believe there were also a number of smaller problems with the internal design, according to the documentation sent back and forward between BCC and the developer. This is from the previous thread, no new DA after this one. :):)

Looking over the renders of the taller version I can't say I'm a fan of the changes they made, all pretty minor stuff, but they broke up the smooth facadeo one side and extruded the edges which makes it look like a 1970's glass box as opposed to 2000's glass box.

Thanks. I didn't think the old design cracked 150m!

Today's Prime Site has said it has been APPROVED with GOLD GLASS!!!! They said it would be very contraversial.
There was also a pedestrian link to be constructed to link up/lane with the new Tank Street bridge that will have characteristics of Little Collins Street in Melbourne.

^
....not exactly

1. While a building has been approved, it's not this one
2. The approval is for blue glass, and as stated in the article will have to be resubmitted to be able to use gold glass.

However, mentioned in that article is that this building will be up before the Urban Planning Committee next week. nice.

Yeah woops. Got confused with 31 tank (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=10685017#post10685017) lol :lol:

Looks like it has been approved now.

DA (http://www.ourbrisbane.com/psf/servlet/DAServlet/bcc/944018)

Awesome!

Another Emporis change!!

yes its now RL165m or 150m above george st.it has total of 37 floors above street.
its same Rl as waterfront place, Skyline and Bris sq.
ill update Emporis asap!
new render>

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2213/400georgestnewpi8.jpg

I like the top. Quite unique!

So is the glass actually darker now? Or is it just the render playing tricks?

My philosephy, never believe the colour of glass in renders!!

Which is the building seeking approval for gold glass? is it this one?

That'd be 31 tank street (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=10685017#post10685017).

Oh please do the gold glass, a touch of sparkle amongst the dreary walls of cheap green stuff!

Oh please do the gold glass, a touch of sparkle amongst the dreary walls of cheap green stuff!

sounds very gc.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/features/img/normanmay.jpg

^^

Huh???

^^ Is that a new render of the building? Or the spire? A sculpture spire?! Now that would be awesome.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/features/img/normanmay.jpg

yeah its definitely a render of an architectural feature that will be installed on top of the building - looks fantastic

Leighton, Grosvenor to start Brisbane tower

December 14, 2006
LEIGHTON Holdings and Grosvenor Australia have pushed the button to start work on their $360 million Brisbane office tower, despite missing out on the biggest tenant in the market.
The joint venture partners received council approval last week to build a 33-storey tower of 42,000sqm, which is due for completion in the third quarter of 2009.

Their 400 George Street development had been vying for the 50,000sqm Telstra precommitment.

But this week Telstra decided to lease Charter Hall's new two-building project - a new office tower at 275 George Street - and the refurbished Northbank Plaza in Ann Street next door. Grosvenor and Leighton do not have a precommitment for the project. But Grosvenor managing director Robert Kerr said they would be begin work because of the strong Brisbane office market.

Brisbane has been one of the country's hottest office leasing markets, with an all-time low vacancy rate of 1.8 per cent and rents surging 23 per cent in the year to September, according to agent Jones Lang LaSalle.

Mr Kerr said there had been strong inquiries from tenants for space ranging in size from 1000sqm to 50,000sqm.

Thiess, a division of Leighton, would build the tower and was on site this week, Leighton Properties development manager Andrew Borger said.

link (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20923016-25658,00.html)

Excellent news

dont you know your history?? the pic is Norman May, Aussie sports commentator. he has a famous quote now from Olympics over the years. he yells out GOLD GOLD GOLD when Australia won a gold medal.

That is a really obscure though Culwulla, posting a pic of him, lol. But, thank you for clearing it up! You want this building to be GOLD!! I'd just be happy with taller. Btw, that article says 33 stories. Isn't this 37, or is that including underground carpark?

There were some excavators in there yesterday digging up the perimeter. Maybe doing soil tests?

articles or council reviews only seem to state number of office floors. they never include ground,plant etc. it totals 37 if include every level above grd.
Sears tower in Chicago was known as 110m storeys for 25 years until a guy from Emporis actually viewed plans and found it was 108 with 2 underground. Also was 442m not 443m.

In Prime Site Today it said that construction has started and that it is the first speculative office tower to be built since Waterfront Place!!

Thanks KJ - awesome news!!! Has anyone seen any work on the site?

In Prime Site Today it said that construction has started and that it is the first speculative office tower to be built since Waterfront Place!!

What do they mean by speculative office tower? Does that mean it's underconstruction before the building's tenants have signed off on the building?

What do they mean by speculative office tower? Does that mean it's underconstruction before the building's tenants have signed off on the building?

Yes, I think it means that nobody has signed lease agreements.

^^That's exactly correct! and yes there are some quite deep excavation that has begun.

Excellent. Although 150m isn't huge, Brisbane square is a similar height and its pretty imposing from Victoria bridge.

That was relatively quick from the initial announcement of the project to the start of construction! Good to see, should be more of it. :)

Could we get a mod to change the title...I have some photo's coming.

Photo's:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0291.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0292.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0293.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0294.jpg

And some of the McDonnell and East Building:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0295.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0296.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0297.jpg

Thanks KJB, you're a star!! This side of town is really going to get a lift isn't it. I hope it keeps some of the grunge (ie. the old strip of shops along roma St opposite the Transit Centre). Just to contrast the rest of town.

yes its now RL165m or 150m above george st.it has total of 37 floors above street.
its same Rl as waterfront place, Skyline and Bris sq.
ill update Emporis asap!
new render>

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2213/400georgestnewpi8.jpg

i wonder if the extra floorspace in the expanded roma st transit building will effect the viability of this project since they have no precommitted tennancies?

I fear a massive GLUT!

never

i wonder if the extra floorspace in the expanded roma st transit building will effect the viability of this project since they have no precommitted tennancies?

The developers associated with the transit tower have stated that they will require precomitments before starting. This project could also be quite long term....the tower is part of the second stage, and for them to start that they have to complete stage one. It also should be noted that the transit building is no larger than what the 2 previous buildings were and the project has been known for some time....the developers of this building will be well aware of it.

With 1.8% vacancy of Premium/A-grade space, an absorption rate of at least 50,000 per annum, and so far 100,000sq me of space UC or likely to start soon (This, 175 Adelaide + Piccadilly), I doubt there will be a glut.

In some aspects a glut is a good outcome. The fact is that Brisbane rental yields have plummeted. Rental commercial property in Brisbane is now more expensive than Melbourne. Melbourne now has the competitive advantage of having a more educated workforce, greater bi-lingual workforce and cheaper commercial rentals. Brisbane needs to claw back some competitive advantage.

our dam's are 4.5% fuller then in melbourne??? thats a positive :)

^^Although, from what I understand, that is just Melbourne's primary dam (like our Wivenhoe) and they have a higher total percentage than us.

^^ He's right Danubis. Melbourne's dams are fuller than Brisbane's.

If (as I am) I'm in the USA and keen to check on what's going on with 400 George, it really is an absolute waste of time viewing the last 3 posts. If you guys have nothing better to contribute, you're behaving like the current rash of the mass of unwanted phone intrusions. Please spare us or at least say something that's relevant to this site.

If (as I am) I'm in the USA and keen to check on what's going on with 400 George, it really is an absolute waste of time viewing the last 3 posts. If you guys have nothing better to contribute, you're behaving like the current rash of the mass of unwanted phone intrusions. Please spare us or at least say something that's relevant to this site.

dont presume to dictate what we can and cannot contribute.

If (as i might be one day) I was in the USA, i would find better things to do then bitch about peoples comments in the 400 George street thread.

If (as I am) I'm in the USA and keen to check on what's going on with 400 George, it really is an absolute waste of time viewing the last 3 posts. If you guys have nothing better to contribute, you're behaving like the current rash of the mass of unwanted phone intrusions. Please spare us or at least say something that's relevant to this site.

oh, that was quite irrelevant in itself! Now you've opened up a whole new can of worms.... Are you going to stay in the USA?

Stay in the US, it isn't uncommon for them to dictate how others operate in countries...

I have to say they have done an awesome job of the Mcdonnell & East building. Hopefully that side of town cleans up a bit after 400 George and the Transit centre are built.

[QUOTE=neilo63;11088291]Stay in the US, it isn't uncommon for them to dictate how others operate in countries...

Just for the record, I am actually one of the most dedicated advocates who have petitioned both QLD local and state govt elected members in favour of high rise developments in Brisbane's CBD. I have often written to elected members of the BCC and state government in support of, say, the Emerald development, and I plan to move to Brisbane shortly having bought there (as Cul could possibly attest). I recall getting a similar bundle of hostile comments when I said that I liked the Cairns mudflats and I defended the Riparian against the mass of unfavourable comments expressed on this site before its completion - At least some readers have had the decency to acknowledge that my opinions were are not based on ignorance and have respected my right to comment without demonstrating such an extreme level of vitriol shown by the people above.

[QUOTE=neilo63;11088291]Stay in the US, it isn't uncommon for them to dictate how others operate in countries...

Just for the record, I am actually one of the most dedicated advocates who have petitioned both QLD local and state govt elected members in favour of high rise developments in Brisbane's CBD. I have often written to elected members of the BCC and state government in support of, say, the Emerald development, and I plan to move to Brisbane shortly having bought there (as Cul could possibly attest). I recall getting a similar bundle of hostile comments when I said that I liked the Cairns mudflats and I defended the Riparian against the mass of unfavourable comments expressed on this site before its completion - At least some readers have had the decency to acknowledge that my opinions were are not based on ignorance and have respected my right to comment without demonstrating such an extreme level of vitriol shown by the people above.

:okay: :applause: Well said.

And two posts ago you were complaining about people straying off topic.....

[QUOTE=neilo63;11088291]Stay in the US, it isn't uncommon for them to dictate how others operate in countries...

Just for the record, I am actually one of the most dedicated advocates who have petitioned both QLD local and state govt elected members in favour of high rise developments in Brisbane's CBD. I have often written to elected members of the BCC and state government in support of, say, the Emerald development, and I plan to move to Brisbane shortly having bought there (as Cul could possibly attest). I recall getting a similar bundle of hostile comments when I said that I liked the Cairns mudflats and I defended the Riparian against the mass of unfavourable comments expressed on this site before its completion - At least some readers have had the decency to acknowledge that my opinions were are not based on ignorance and have respected my right to comment without demonstrating such an extreme level of vitriol shown by the people above.

wtf

Yeah, so that 400 George place....awesome hey....

[QUOTE=neilo63;11088291]Stay in the US, it isn't uncommon for them to dictate how others operate in countries...

Just for the record, I am actually one of the most dedicated advocates who have petitioned both QLD local and state govt elected members in favour of high rise developments in Brisbane's CBD. I have often written to elected members of the BCC and state government in support of, say, the Emerald development, and I plan to move to Brisbane shortly having bought there (as Cul could possibly attest). I recall getting a similar bundle of hostile comments when I said that I liked the Cairns mudflats and I defended the Riparian against the mass of unfavourable comments expressed on this site before its completion - At least some readers have had the decency to acknowledge that my opinions were are not based on ignorance and have respected my right to comment without demonstrating such an extreme level of vitriol shown by the people above.


This is true - leave the guy alone, he's not a whinging American.

[QUOTE=notra;11102095]


This is true - leave the guy alone, he's not a whinging American.

Hes right the dam levels in Brisbane and Melbourne have absolutely nothing to do with 400 George St, same as how the 275 George St thread got turned into a thread all about Torbeck Apartments. Its pointless going off topic and wastes time for those of us who dont spend the entire day on here and just want to catch up quickly on whats going on with the latest projects and developments.

I realise that saving the fascade of old buildings is generally considered a token gesture to appease peoples (including myself) desires to hold on to some of the architectural features of the past. But how much of the McDonnell and East buidling will they be retaining?

I realise that saving the fascade of old buildings is generally considered a token gesture to appease peoples (including myself) desires to hold on to some of the architectural features of the past. But how much of the McDonnell and East buidling will they be retaining?

The outer walls and roof were kept but the interior was gutted. They appeared to add a basement level.

I realise that saving the fascade of old buildings is generally considered a token gesture to appease peoples (including myself) desires to hold on to some of the architectural features of the past. But how much of the McDonnell and East buidling will they be retaining?

Althoughh before they started work, all I could see were floors and walls that had deteriorated so much that they would of had to have been replaced anyway!

Just to prove it's U/C http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0146.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0145.jpg

jeez! that grass was barely there a month!

after the disapointment of arguably devines best project 'the georgian', im glad to see something constructive happen to this prime site. now for queensland place to emerge and we'll have quite a nice cluster of modern towers

hows this going? been a few months

The hole is probably about 1 floor deep. They have been doing a lot of drilling though.

thanx

Construction update:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0156.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0157.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0158.jpg

Thanks KJ, I was wondering how this was going. It's a shame that interesting street art on that old building will be covered.

Street art?????????

Ugly grafitti more like

Anyway, another pic showing the site also taken today

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4981/p3210060ot7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

is anyone else excited about a REAL glass office scraper about to grow!!! last time was Brissy Square. Brissy square had the shades which for the entire time I thought was some kind of scaffolding, waiting for it to disappear. At least this one won't have that, and will just go up gracefully with a massive street presence.

400 George St aqnd Northbridge are going to make an awseome duo. Donovan Hill and Cox Rayner, side by side, its like the two best picture oscars in one block. And the food mall in 400 George is going to totoally transform this end of the city. office workers will have a reason on weekdays to actually walk into this area of the city.

its a shame that the commonwealth law courts were designed with the largest glass frontage to open onto the back of future development (now 400 george st). i wonder what the future view will look like from inside the courts

400 george and northbridge, that is

It's about time the legal precinct got revitalised. Now all the offenders can eat in style (and maybe without handcuffs).

http://www.brisbanephotos.net/images/City_12042007/City_20070412036.jpg

Here is some pics. Crazy amount of activity with Northbridge Tower next door!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Imgp0211.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Imgp0212.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Imgp0213.jpg

Thanks for the update, i hardly ever see this side of town.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/18%2005%202007/Imgp0254.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/18%2005%202007/Imgp0255.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/18%2005%202007/Imgp0256.jpg

Just thought you guys might want to have a look here:

www.400george.com

^^
Awesome website. Has heaps of info and pics.

Thanks Blackcaldera good find and welcome

Good website
I like the picture of the CBD within the "health at work" section.
The CBD definitely looks substantial in that pic.

Good website
I like the picture of the CBD within the "health at work" section.
The CBD definitely looks substantial in that pic.
I thought the same thing....actually took me a second look to even realise it was Brisbane.

It's going to be a pretty impressive sight when it's finished, as the whole facade will be floor to ceiling glass. Almost see through. :)

I understand that you will start seeing the first of it installed early next year.

I would imagine it is going to be a great place to work in.

Hole seems about 3 or 4 storeys now!

Neat and tidy looking building.