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New Jack City
December 11th, 2004, 07:51 PM
Anyone following the Pale Male story lately? The latest...

NY Newsday

Report: Hawks may be allowed to return to Upper East Side

December 11, 2004, 3:17 AM EST

NEW YORK (AP) _ A pair of beloved red-tailed hawks may be allowed to return to their roost on a luxury apartment building in Manhattan.

Richard Cohen, president of the building's co-op board, said Pale Male and Lola could come back as long as a new nest could be built that posed no threat to pedestrians below. The old nest was removed Tuesday after the building's engineer said it could cause the building's stone facade to crumble.

"We did not fully appreciate the importance of these birds to the people in the city," Cohen told the Daily News for Saturday editions.

The nest's removal set off several days of protests by bird-lovers and vows of support from several tenants of the Upper East Side building, including actress Mary Tyler Moore. NYC Audubon wrote a letter asking Mayor Michael Bloomberg to "urge the return" of the nest from the company whose workers had taken it down.

"I have a 7-year-old son, and people were running up to him and threatening him and yelling at him, 'Bring back the nest!"' Cohen, husband of CNN newswoman Paula Zahn, told the News.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service would meet next week with managers of the building to discuss building a new, safer nest on the building's roof, the paper reported.

The hawks were spotted roosting on separate buildings on Fifth Avenue Friday.

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3tmk
December 11th, 2004, 08:33 PM
I've seen them sometimes on the streets and in Central Park, IMO they should be back

AtlanticaC5
December 11th, 2004, 09:17 PM
I saw that nest and one of the hawks when I visited NYC, I think they look cool

asohn
December 12th, 2004, 01:57 AM
Are hawks still an endangered species?

Ellatur
December 12th, 2004, 03:12 AM
i saw them several times.. we NEED them.. to eradicate the anorexic, cowardly pidgeons

New Jack City
December 14th, 2004, 11:22 PM
NY1

Deal Allows Hawks To Return To Fifth Avenue Home

DECEMBER 14TH, 2004

A tentative deal was struck Monday between bird lovers and the co-op board of a Fifth Avenue apartment building to allow two famous hawks to rebuild their nest.

The red-tailed hawks, named Pale Male and Lola, had lived atop the posh building for a decade, but the board had the nest removed last week, along with the metal spikes that held it in place. The board said the nest had grown too large and complained that the hawks often dropped bloodied prey on the sidewalk.

Experts say the nest needs to be rebuilt soon, since it's already the middle of prime mating season.

“We're going to be working with the co-op board and with building management to find a way to have the nest re-established at this location,” said John Flicker, the president of the National Audubon Society. “We're going to be looking at different of putting the spikes back in or something else to restabilize the nest in a way that works for the birds and works for the residents of the building.

The co-op board agreed to the negotiations after a week of enduring protests by bird lovers across the street.

“I think the board at this building had no idea how far-reaching the affection was that people have for these birds, so we've done our deed,” said the actress Mary Tyler Moore, who lives in the building and pushed for the hawks’ return.

spacepostman
December 15th, 2004, 12:59 AM
Wow they are beautiful!

Singidunum
December 15th, 2004, 03:36 PM
cool! I didn`t know hawks live in city. We have sparrows mostly ;)

Ellatur
December 16th, 2004, 02:14 AM
you can see them from here and then :)

New Jack City
March 16th, 2005, 03:29 AM
Pale Male got game...

AP

New York High-Rise Hawks Have Egg in Nest

March 15, 2005

By RICHARD PYLE, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - New York's high-rise hawks are expecting an addition to the family.

Pale Male and his mate, Lola, who live on the ledge of a Fifth Avenue apartment building overlooking Central Park, have at least one egg in their nest, according to the Pale Male.com Web site run by Lincoln Karim, a video engineer with Associated Press Television News who devotes most of his spare time to monitoring the birds.

In December, the board of the co-op apartment building, whose tenants include actress Mary Tyler Moore and CNN anchor Paula Zahn, removed the hawks' huge nest on a 12th-story ledge, calling it a hazard.

The board later bowed to public outrage and pressure from the city and environmentalists, and restored a row of anti-pigeon spikes that the hawks had used to anchor their nest. Pale Male and Lola immediately rebuilt their nest.

The male hawk has sired 23 chicks with four mates since he first set up housekeeping at 927 Fifth Ave. in 1993.

Volunteers use the Web site to record every detail of the hawks' lives.

"Lola appears to be turning the eggs every half hour or so. Pale Male had two sittings today between noon and sunset," said an entry posted Sunday.

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On the Net:

Pale Male: http://www.palemale.com

NYC Audubon Society: http://www.nycas.org

swivel
March 16th, 2005, 05:15 AM
They never should have been forced to leave in the first place....