Oh, the Sheffield Primark is a decent 5 (or 6?) storey building (with a shocking extension on the front), yet they only seem to use 1 floor and the basement. :bash:

^^:no:

The Pikeymark in Coventry is in a seven storey building but they are only using half of it. They seem to keep their stock on the floor as well.

:no:

if the nightmare scenario of primark moving to the old HOF premesis ever did happen, it'd be strange if they were ever to do that, as the inside of it is open planned... but then it is primark... :hahano:

This "We have, you don't" reminds me of when I first arrived in Canada. I was asked by my new workmates as to where I was living. Upon hearing my address I was told that it was not a very big place and was even to small to have a "Canadian Tire" store. Canadian Tire is a hardware/DIY store that can be found in almost every Canadian community with a population of 10,000 and up.

I don't have a problem with Primark itself but some of it's stores are hell. Some are good though. Primark Sheffield is horrible, but Primark The Headrow is a large, spacious store. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Primark_Leeds_City_Centre.JPG

Also, Bradford doesn't have a Debenhams or BHS. Even Harrogate has those.

Here in Glasgow, the most prestigious of our Department stores is 'Frasers of Glasgow', now known as 'House of Fraser.' I know that this department store is now very common but seeing as this is the original, it is a bit special.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/1334848891_046f2c740d_b.jpg
http://www.theglasgowstory.com/images/TGSA05301_m.jpg

You'll find all the normal department stores that you get everywhere here too. Marks & Spencer, Dunnes, Debenhams, BHS, John Lewis, Watt Brothers.

The Glasgow Debenhams was originally a Lewis's but was bought over.

Selfridges bought the site previously home to the Department store Goldberg's and Weisfelds.

Harvey Nicks are looking at a number of sites in Glasgow, so their opening is highly expected over the next few years.

Ah Department Stores. Portsmouth has a new John Lewis about to be built and a replacement Marks n Sparks. The council seem a little too happy that our John Lewis is gonna be bigger than Southamptons...

http://www.northernquarter.info/images/nq-view-20.jpg

http://www.northernquarter.info/images/nq-view-23.jpg

http://www.northernquarter.info/images/nq-view-26.jpg

The new M&S is a BEAST!

How bigs your cock John Lewis? Sheffield's new one will be 26,842 sqm (or 288 925 sqft) making it one of the biggest in the UK? (Any idea how big Manchesters is?)

newcastle used to have loads of dept stores. bainbridges was the world's first fixed price department store and two years after it began using departments, Bon Marche in Paris copied the idea and it then spread around the world. Bainbridges is now known as John Lewis since 2002. then there was Wenger's, Co-Op, Blundell's, Snowball's, Farnon's, Binns, Shepherd's, Parrishes, Beaven's and last but not least Fenwick's, which still goes strong today as the town's biggest and most upscale department store, with a branch on Bond Street in London.

a Debenhams is currently being built, never been even though there is one in the metro-centre. a new Dept Store is also being courted for the Pilgrim Street retail development which is currently in its infancy. predictable rumours of selfridges and harvey nicks but i think it will be HofF personally.

One of my favourite buildings in Liverpool is Lewis's department store.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2122295515_6edb448a17_b.jpg

Impressive, could do with a scrub though. You lot have the same buses as us :happy:

^what a gorgeous brute of a building, looks a lot like a building on Whitehall, can't remember which one exactly. isn't that an epstein statue above the door?

The (old) Lewis in Birmingham is crying out for a naked statue on it, ^^ ditto the Leeds one.

http://www.virtualbrum.co.uk/images/corpst/lewises.jpg

Then again you probably get enough of that sort of thing come Wetherspoon's kick out time...

^^

That new John Lewis looks interesting. Can't say I'm as keen on that huge M&S though.

How bigs your cock John Lewis? Sheffield's new one will be 26,842 sqm (or 288 925 sqft) making it one of the biggest in the UK? (Any idea how big Manchesters is?)

Manchester doesn't have one in it's city centre, but the one at the Trafford Centre is 200,000 sq ft. The new one in Liverpool tops that at 240,000 sq ft. At nearly 290,000 sq ft, the Sheffield store sounds like it's in with a shout of being the UK's biggest.

Oh, the Sheffield Primark is a decent 5 (or 6?) storey building (with a shocking extension on the front), yet they only seem to use 1 floor and the basement. :bash:

When I lived in Sheffield there were 2 departments stores - the Cole Brothers thing in that odd buildings, and one on that road that leads down to Castle Square... I think it closed down and turned into something else.

Sod all these department stores, I prefer the good old

http://www.freewebs.com/dirtyoldmanpants/the%20local%20shop.jpg

like the one above near Hadfield (Derbyshire, but within the GMPTE area). :D

How bigs your cock John Lewis? Sheffield's new one will be 26,842 sqm (or 288 925 sqft) making it one of the biggest in the UK? (Any idea how big Manchesters is?)
The cock thing is true to an extent. Some people think the Spinnaker Tower was built as a fuck you to Southampton. The Northern Quarter is built specifically to compete with Soton for the shoppers.

I love the new john Lewis and M&S that will be built in portsmouth.. they look very nice.. they also look very similar to the M&S and John Lewis being built in Leeds.. and the stores in liverpool etc. It must be a new generic identikit design almost lol *but* they do look nice imo

Back to cock sizes.. the new M&S in leeds will be the largest in the uk outside london :cheer:

Back to cock sizes.. the new M&S in leeds will be the largest in the uk outside london :cheer:

Why, how big is it? The Manchester M&S is 247,480 sq ft and is larger than any in London. :)

I love the new john Lewis and M&S that will be built in portsmouth.. they look very nice.. they also look very similar to the M&S and John Lewis being built in Leeds.. and the stores in liverpool etc. It must be a new generic identikit design almost lol *but* they do look nice imo

Back to cock sizes.. the new M&S in leeds will be the largest in the uk outside london :cheer:

incidently, is there any links for the size of the new John Lewis Sheffield ?

I cant find anywhere it being 290,000 sq ft. Looking at the john lewis website it says the new relocated sheffield store in 2011 will be 250,000 sq ft, and the Leeds one 260,000 sq ft. :dunno:

sheffield: http://www.johnlewispartnership.co.uk/display.aspx?MasterId=320a0a75-811f-4de0-b9fa-7825964fdfcf&NavigationId=563

leeds: http://www.johnlewis.com/Shops/DSTemplate.aspx?Id=288

most of the stores, even in smaller cities are all between 200,000 - 280,000 sq ft . So i guess its just a standard design template, rather than larger stores being needed for larger cities.

^^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the proposed Leeds store be the biggest in the UK? The figure I've seen for the London Oxford Street store (the supposed largest) is 170,000 sq ft. Meanwhile, the figure I've seen reported for the Leeds store is 18,250 sq m, or 196,441 sq ft. That's would make the Leeds store the largest wouldn't it? Also up for consideration is the recently announced M&S at Cheshire Oaks. This has been touted as being in the region of 195,000 sq ft, meaning it's going to be pretty tight between Leeds and Cheshire Oaks for the right to claim their store as the largest.

isn't the Brent Cross the big one? Or is Blue Water? :dunno:


http://www.johnlewis.com/Shops/DSRegion.aspx?Id=2
Apparently Manchester doesn't have one.
Irwells answer will be two fold, 1 Birmingham dosn't have one either, and 2, Trafford and Cheadle are parts of Manchester, But oddly Solihull will never be 'birmingham'

isn't the Brent Cross the big one? Or is Blue Water? :dunno:


http://www.johnlewis.com/Shops/DSRegion.aspx?Id=2
Apparently Manchester doesn't have one.

Nope, just the Trafford Centre and Cheadle at the moment, though they're currently looking for city centre premises too.

Oh, I was half right then.

Oh, I was half right then.

Half right as in I replied?

^^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the proposed Leeds store be the biggest in the UK? The figure I've seen for the London Oxford Street store (the supposed largest) is 170,000 sq ft. Meanwhile, the figure I've seen reported for the Leeds store is 18,250 sq m, or 196,441 sq ft. That's would make the Leeds store the largest wouldn't it? Also up for consideration is the recently announced M&S at Cheshire Oaks. This has been touted as being in the region of 195,000 sq ft, meaning it's going to be pretty tight between Leeds and Cheshire Oaks for the right to claim their store as the largest.

its all pretty confusing

The London one is 170,000 sq ft of trading space . the leeds one is 196,441 sq ft in total space, giving 250,000 sq ft of trading space, making it the largest outside london.

Irwell which store are you on about? All sources point to the london store being the biggest. Which actual store are u reffering to that you beleive is the largest in the UK? the M&S outlet store in Denton ? Or the M&S Home that's opened as an extension of the trafford centre in 2008 ? Because neither appear to be larger than the London store

incidently, is there any links for the size of the new John Lewis Sheffield ?

I cant find anywhere it being 290,000 sq ft. Looking at the john lewis website it says the new relocated sheffield store in 2011 will be 250,000 sq ft, and the Leeds one 260,000 sq ft. :dunno:

http://planning.sheffield.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JYYM7GNY0DF00&searchtype=SPEC

Although I've just realised, that could be 290,000 sqft including the parking spaces. :dunno:

Anyway, everything else has quoted the Sheffield store at 260,000 sqft so it'll be atleast the same size as the Leeds one.

http://sevenstone.co.uk/key_facts.php
http://www.johnlewis.com/Shops/DSTemplate.aspx?Id=568

^^Both quote it as 260,000 sqft.

Irwell which store are you on about? All sources point to the london store being the biggest. Which actual store are u reffering to that you beleive is the largest in the UK? the M&S outlet store in Denton ? Or the M&S Home that's opened as an extension of the trafford centre in 2008 ? Because neither appear to be larger than the London store

The M&S in the city centre.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/england/manchester/shopping/35242?list=true

It was the largest in the world until Selfridges sublet part of it, reducing it to just being the largest in the UK.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/136161121_e39b119403.jpg?v=0

Hmm, with John Lewis, for what I can find, the cambridge store is the largest (after Oxford Street probably...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lewis_%28department_store%29#Branches_and_future_openings

Anyone know any different?

M&S Eastgate will be the UKs biggest store- their flagship store. Perhaps reflecting their Leodensian roots. M&S White Rose and M&S Briggate will remain open too.

The London one is 170,000 sq ft of trading space . the leeds one is 196,441 sq ft in total space, giving 250,000 sq ft of trading space, making it the largest outside london.

Forgive me if it's a stupid question, but how precisely does it have more trading space than total floor space.

^what a gorgeous brute of a building, looks a lot like a building on Whitehall, can't remember which one exactly. isn't that an epstein statue above the door?

yeah, the statue is called Liverpool Resurgent or Dickie Lewis. The whole store is supposed to be having £100 million spent on it soon, being completely renovated, scrubbed up and turned into a leisure complex with hotels, cinemas etc..

Ok, ive finally sussed this out having searched google for 25 mins looking at scores of sources.

The M&S Manchester *was* the largest in the UK at 247,000 sq ft. But it was cut in half, creating a selfridges store of 120,000 sq ft according to all google searches.

This explains why all google searches show M&S London to be the largest in the UK, whilst wiki lists the 5 largest stores and doesnt even mention manchester, because at approx 120,00 sq ft its quite small now. This is also backed up by the link Irwell provided which shows the M&S store as 247,480 sq ft (meaning its old size, not its halved size)... this can be double checked by looking at the same guide and finding that it hasnt even listed selfridges in manchester.. ie its not been updated

Also looking at the architects website they explain how the building was halved, creating two almost identical shells, giving a new 120,000 sq ft selffridges

who needs department stoes when you have this:

:drool:

http://gogoplastic.co.uk/shop/catalog/index.php

M&S have over 560 stores throughout the United Kingdom, with nearly 1.2 million square metres (12.5 million square feet) of selling space. This includes its largest store in Oxford Street, near Marble Arch, London, which has around 16,000 square metres (170,000 square feet) of sales floor. The second largest store is in Warrington, although the forthcoming M&S Megastore in Leeds will take over as the largest outside London.The third largest store is at the Sprucefield Centre in Lisburn, Northern Ireland. The fourth largest store will be the forthcoming branch at Silverburn Centre, Pollok in Glasgow which, since its opening in October 2007, is largest Marks and Spencer store in Scotland

The one in Warrington is next to Ikea Manchester you know...

The one in Warrington is next to Ikea Manchester you know...

That makes two then. :wink2: Not to mention two John Lewis and a third on it's way.

The one in Warrington is next to Ikea Manchester you know...

warrington? The town that's equidistance between liverpool & manchester.. and is going to be merged into Liverpool's TTWA.

Ikea's sense of Geography looks a bit off!

http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_GB/ikny_splash.html

Leeds South of Manchester? And the Coventry store looks handy for Helium... :nuts:

oh wow! a dream come true the west midlands has come south! :banana:

(although it appears coventry and wednesbury have taken the places of Gloucester and Cheltenham unfortunately...)

Milton Keynes is where Luton or Chelmsford should be, Manchester is where Bolton is, and Wembley is where southend is :shocked: :shifty:

That Ikea map is funny, never mind the government not knowing where the midlands is, nor does Ikea, who recently opened a 7 floor store in Coventry, so you would think they would know where it is, and Wednesbury described as Birmingham, the black country folk wouldnt be happy, that is as bad as Warrington being in Manchester. ;)

If were discussing department stores then Birmingham's Rackhams or House of Fraser as it's now titled is important as it was the first Rackhams. William Matthews sadly didn't get any name recognition unlike his colleague John Rackham.


The Rackhams Story

The retail drapers, Wilkinson and Riddell, who were established in 1851, and whose premises were at 78, Bull Street, took on two new sales assistants in 1861. One of these was John Rackham. Twenty years later John and his colleague William Matthews took over and extended the shop into Temple Row. It took the name Rackhams.

The new Corporation Street was soon made and in 1898 Rackhams was extended into the North Western Arcade over the Snow Hill Tunnel.

Harrods Ltd. bought Rackhams in 1955, having also purchased their present site. Work began in 1957 on an eight-phase project for a new department store, office tower-block and arcade.

Birmingham Remembered, 1988/2002, Alton Douglas & Dennis Moore

Might be rebranded House of Fraser but always call it Rackhams.

That Ikea map is funny, never mind the government not knowing where the midlands is, nor does Ikea, who recently opened a 7 floor store in Coventry, so you would think they would know where it is, and Wednesbury described as Birmingham, the black country folk wouldnt be happy, that is as bad as Warrington being in Manchester. ;)

Yeah, but Wednesbury is more recognisable as location if you say Wednesbury, Birmingham as most people would have no clue to where it is otherwise. Gaah, we need Greater Birmingham label sorted.

how do you pronounce wednesbury, is it the same as wednesday (only with bury instead of day)?

Wendsbree

^^i dunno, when is bree?

Yeah I know, this is the city bashing thread ;), also you can see the Ikea store from M6 just past junction 8.

The Greater Birmingham thing is a problem, but I just can't see how we get around it as Wolverhampton now a city itself, wouldn't be happy being Wolverhampton, Greater Birmingham. I always exclude Coventry, as I think it should get on with being Warwickshires main city, incorporating Rugby, Leamington/Warwick, Nuneaton etc.

Anyway, back to city bashing, lol.

ok then:

Birmingham

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/bham.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Cardiff:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/cardff.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Liverpool:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/lipool.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/livpool.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Leeds:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/leeds.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Manchester:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/manc-1.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Newcastle:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/newcstle.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Nottingham:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/nottnghm.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Sheffield:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/shef-1.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Bristol

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/brs.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/evrrrrrr.jpg

edit: you're not supposed to take this seriously, (if you hadnt guessed :|)

Bristol:-

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/P1000800.jpg

I have just heard, on a local 'phone in' radio show that, Bradford UK, city council have banned a celebration to honour St. George and the reason the council gave was "for concern for the sensibilities of the community". I don't know where the caller got his information but was wondering if it was true. Can anyone verify or debunk this story?

They changed a parade route to avoid going through areas afflicted by race riots a few years ago or something.

They changed a parade route to avoid going through areas afflicted by race riots a few years ago or something.So it's not true? Thought not. Thanks for posting.

ok then:
Liverpool:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/lipool.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/livpool.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

Bristol

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/brs.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/evrrrrrr.jpg How come only Liverpool and Bristol rate more than one pic? Must admit though, judging by the pics, I prefer Bristol.:)

What are the German riot Police doing in Nottingham ?

Is this Smithdown Road?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/livpool.jpg

Bristol:-

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/P1000800.jpg

:hug:

i have to ask though, what were you doing at that spot?


there's millions of pigeons by that sign too :yes:

Sheffield:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/shef-1.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/every.jpg

:lol:

Have a few more to show cosmopolitan and modern Sheffield:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/389297315_6fb0308c22.jpg?v=1171395219
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/372395884_f632865150.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/195707029_b12f6ca071.jpg?v=1178875296

Don't you just wish you lived here? ;)

^^they'd look quite nice if they were renovated to a high standard :yes: (i assume they're gone now, bar the foregound of parkhill)

The terraces are possibly still there... but yeah that in the background of Park Hill is long gone.

Is this Smithdown Road?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/livpool.jpg

Looks more like Seel Street.

It's the last remaining row of derelict buildings on Park Road.

Thanks guys, What is the building at the far right whose facade is just peeking in?

It's the Park Road branch of the former Liverpool Savings Bank.

:hug:

i have to ask though, what were you doing at that spot?


there's millions of pigeons by that sign too :yes:

Taking pics.... :shifty:


I see you know it well too....


Anyway..

Where dis?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/bham.jpg

Taking pics.... :shifty:



i see :shifty:


I see you know it well too....


indeed, its by gloucester road :yes: a nice thoroughfare that.



Anyway..

Where dis?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/bham.jpg

Stoke on trent... in the 1960's :yes:

Bristol:-

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/P1000800.jpg

Is that where Deal or No Deal is filmed or Skins? :tongue3:

ok then:

Sheffield:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/aubertonic/shef-1.jpg



Looks like Sheffield has a few slag...








..heaps :shifty:

i've just realised how shit the police come across in that notice, talk about police legarthy, (for all we know the illegal activity is rape* ;) :shifty:)












*i reckon its cottaging tbh.
so its probably where Deal or no deal is filmed :yes:

To get the ball rolling again, some quotes from this weeks AJ:

'Weak Council leadership has left Leeds plagued by ugly buildings'



'The Developments coming out of the ground at the moment in Leeds are truly awful'


'The public sector was unprepared for the rush. Leeds still doesnt have a strategic masterplan, nor a tall-buildings policy, nor an energy strategy, nor an integrated transport strategy, nor a public realm strategy.
Leeds lacks the strong and enlightened council leadership of Manchester or Sheffield, both of which were subject to the same economic and investment conditions, but neither of which has suffered from the same spate of bad design as Leeds.'


:shifty:

to be fair most buildings in the UK are blighted by new ugly buildings, very few that have gone up in recent years are particularily decent, from Birmingham to Leeds down to Plymouth etc *sigh*

What do you mean? All of Sheffield's new buildings are absolutely stunning ;)





(Well... all apart from those in the St. Vincents Quarter or the CIQ... and obviously the odd other one... plus some... nah not really plus some, I just thought these brackets should go on for a bit longer... right, i'm gonna stop now...)

Leeds still doesnt have a strategic masterplan, nor a tall-buildings policy, nor an energy strategy, nor an integrated transport strategy, nor a public realm strategy

leeds does have a strategic masterplan, and a tall buildings policy.. ive the huuuuge council publications on my laptop desktop here that are available from leeds.gov.uk

With regards to uly buildings.. Leeds, unlike manchester in particular, hasnt had any iconic buildings completed yet... there are 4 or 5 'jewles' that need to be completed to give leeds a polished look. such as lumiere (u/c), city square house (u/c), granary wharf (u/c), city house reclad (approved) (the ugly building sittng on top of the train station), the huge wellington place office quarter (u/c), the massive eastgate quarter (approved)

yes there's loads of other things in development, but these are the select things that will give leeds that polished look, a polished look that machester has acheived with things such as no1 deansgate.

granary wharf. Wharf, quay, dock, berth, pier are all maritime related words which describe were ships tie-up and load/discharge cargo or passengers. Canal barges tie up along a canal "bank". So, the question is, how did Granary Wharf come by it's name?;)

^^

In Manc, we have a Potato Wharf, Albion Wharf, Timber Wharf, Islington Wharf, Chapel Wharf, Slate Wharf, Milliners Wharf etc...!

In Chigley there is Treddle's wharf.

In Manc, we have a Potato Wharf, Albion Wharf, Timber Wharf, Islington Wharf, Chapel Wharf, Slate Wharf, Milliners Wharf etc...!Manchster is a port, however, are all the above in a waterside situation?

PS: My post was meant just as a wind-up for Wiggles and not a serious question.

In Star Trek there was a Mr Wharf!

wharf is and old English word for bank or shore so I would assume it can refer to rivers/canals or to the sea.

Brum has a Typhoo Wharf, guess what they unloaded there.

Brum has a Typhoo Wharf, guess what they unloaded there.

Cheese?

Manchster is a port, however, are all the above in a waterside situation?

PS: My post was meant just as a wind-up for Wiggles and not a serious question.

I should've left you to it! :lol:

Aye, they're all 'waterside' i.e. next to a canal or river.

Cheese?

Bingo.

Bingo was never unloaded there :nono:

Wharf, quay, dock, berth, pier are all maritime related words which describe were ships tie-up and load/discharge cargo or passengers. Canal barges tie up along a canal "bank". So, the question is, how did Granary Wharf come by it's name?;)

Does that not seem rather obvious... barges used to drop off/load cargo from the granaries at Granary Wharf. In recent years it's just been a leisure destination.

Leeds has had lots of not so nice buildings (I wouldnt say ugly; I dont think Whitehall Riverside is ugly, but its not stunning). But then again, it's regeneration has been on a much bigger scale than that of Sheffield, which has only really started to regenerate in the last few years.

Manchester has just as many as Leeds; what about Green Quarter?!

Does that not seem rather obvious... barges used to drop off/load cargo from the granaries at Granary Wharf.

From post #1672.
PS: My post was meant just as a wind-up for Wiggles and not a serious question.

Manchester has just as many as Leeds; what about Green Quarter?!

We keep them tucked away in one place on the edge of the city centre mainly, not in full view ;)

Brum has a Typhoo Wharf, guess what they unloaded there.

Coventry has an Electric Wharf

Portsmouth has a Gunwharf.

San Fran has a Fishermans Wharf.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9549/pict0059km2.jpg

North Shields has a Fish Wharf.

Which probably isn't too suprising...

In fact have a picture taken there:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Image035.jpg

Purchased fish from there many a time.

Sod all these department stores, I prefer the good old

http://www.freewebs.com/dirtyoldmanpants/the%20local%20shop.jpg

like the one above near Hadfield (Derbyshire, but within the GMPTE area). :D

Or this one In East Manchester :)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Manchester/P1010387.jpg

North Shields has a Fish Wharf.

Which probably isn't too suprising...

In fact have a picture taken there:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Image035.jpg

5 mins from my sisters house, brilliant shop! Once saw round the corner a pack of the biggest gulls i've ever seen putting pay to a left over box of fish. Scary stuff.

Is this the "what wharf's does your city have?" thread or the city bashing one? I'm confused! ;)

Star trek has Worf :dunno:

LOL

some that leeds has....

brewery wharf, granary wharf, chandlers wharf, narrowboat wharf, roberts wharf, langtons wharf

lol

I think i saw a regency wharf in Brum the other day.. god know's what it had to do with.

pah! but only so many of you will have Quays!

We have Locks and Quays!

:happy:

thats all there is really isnt there?

Portsmouth has 'The Canalside at Gunwharf Quays, Portsmouth' as an area of the Gunwharf district. 4 in one!

We also have Admiralty Quarter to add to the nautical theme.

we have The Quays

oh and there's clarance dock

i always loved the fact that Hull, a port city, was called just that (Hull) :happy: :yes:

Kingston-upon-Hull ^^

i always loved the fact that Hull, a port city, was called just that (Hull) :happy: :yes:

Never realised that lol.

Though to be pedantic, the city is actually called Kingston upon Hull. So technically its called Kingston...

:runs from angry, axe weilding helium:

^^yeah i know, but most people call it that :yes: its just a shame Hull rhymes with dull :(

Star trek has Worf :dunno:

how rude! you pinched my joke:-

In Star Trek there was a Mr Wharf!

:tongue3:

well i didnt see it :dunno: :pet: :hug: but its spelt Worf :no:

well i didnt see it :dunno: :pet: :hug: but its spelt Worf :no:

wharf speed mr wharf !


:baeh3:

liek zomg ditz a trekkie lolz!

its just a shame Hull rhymes with dull :(And bull, cull, full, mull, null, lull, gull, pull .................:)

We have Locks and Quays!

So de we, and docks and wharfs and a seaplane and a paddle steamer and a hovercraft service under trial, still build ships too:lol:;)

Did I just see second city Birmingham in the European cup final? :O

Oh no, it's Manchester.... again!.... :)

Yep, 6th city Manchester.

Which must make Manchester even Greater if it can do better than so many cities 'above' it! ;)

6th

Well done Villa! :)

Which must make Manchester even Greater if it can do better than so many cities 'above' it! ;)

Certaintly, still not quite as good as your smaller northern neighbour though. ;)

1 Man Utd 81pts
2 Chelsea 81pts
3 Arsenal 77pts
4 Liverpool 70pts
5 Everton 62pts
6 Aston Villa 59pts

Indeed. :)

And. :dunno:

:wave: tangerine, anyone?

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Books/Pix/pictures/2007/09/07/tangerines.jpg

The mancs will have some, will make a change to all the lemons. :tongue3:

1 Man Utd 81pts
2 Chelsea 81pts
3 Arsenal 77pts
4 Liverpool 70pts
5 Everton 62pts
6 Aston Villa 59pts

Indeed. :)

Historically, football has always thrived in poorer working class cities .... which is why the South Americans are so good at it!

Hertha Berlin (Germany's Capital by the way) are a lowly 12th in the Bundesliga, so a city's prowess in a particular football league is no statement to its importance on the World stage ................ this IS the 'City Bashing Thread' isn't it?!?!?

I prefer aquamarine myself.:)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2734/pict203zy8.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2782/pict182by3.jpg

Better than sour grapes! :)

nah, sour grapes are lovely.

......... and while I'm in 'City Bashing' mode, Atlanta is the United States busiest airport, infact, Atlanta has the busiest airport in the World, and yet it is only America's 5th largest city ......... so there is no shame in being Englands' 6th largest city with the 3rd busiest airport after all!!!!!!

Historically, football has always thrived in poorer working class cities ....

Poorer? Usually those 'poorer working class' cities have better skills and more culture.

That's real wealth. :cheers:

......... and while I'm in 'City Bashing' mode, Atlanta is the United States busiest airport, infact, Atlanta has the busiest airport in the World, and yet it is only America's 5th largest city ......... so there is no shame in being Englands' 6th largest city with the 3rd busiest airport after all!!!!!!


No shame in being the 2nd largest city and erm...what is it, 7th? 8th? largest airport? :)

Poorer? Usually those 'poorer working class' cities have better skills and more culture.

That's real wealth. :cheers:

Yes, London is a real working class city.

there is no shame in being Englands' 6th largest city with the 3rd busiest airport after all!!!!!! UK's busiest airports, London Heathrow=62 million: London Gatwick=31 million: London Stanstead=21 million: Manchester=18 million::)

Blimey, Stanstead only handled 12 million last time I looked - must be all the Polish budget airlines routed through it!

Blimey, Stanstead only handled 12 million last time I looked - must be all the Polish budget airlines routed through it! And those are only the 2007 figures, I believe they have widened the gap further in 2008.

No shame in being the 2nd largest city and erm...what is it, 7th? 8th? largest airport? :)

Think Birmingham & Glasgow are the next busiest after Manchester .... not sure which is the largest though. :)

Yes, London is a real working class city.

It's more working class than you think.

More poverty in London than anywhere in the country. Everyone knows that ;)

Think Birmingham & Glasgow are the next busiest after Manchester .... not sure which is the largest though. :)

Negligable I'm sure!

And Sloyne is correct, Manc did drop to 4th, but hey, still the biggest non-London airport :)

Think Birmingham & Glasgow are the next busiest after Manchester .... not sure which is the largest though. :) Full, official CAA 2007 figures: LHR=68 mil: LGW=35 mil: LSN=23 mil: MAN=22 mil: BHX=9 mil: GLA=8 mil: So it would seem that MAN has closed the gap quite a bit on Stanstead.

It's more working class than you think.

More poverty in London than anywhere in the country. Everyone knows that ;)

Even the really rich bastards that live there. :ohno:

What about the people in poverty in other places, they probably don't know, or care.

Think Birmingham & Glasgow are the next busiest after Manchester .... not sure which is the largest though. :)

Glasgow has two airports though and a seaplane service, so in total passenger numbers we are ahead of Brum;) We have the busiest train station in the UK outside London though:lol:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/nav.1529

Hertha Berlin (Germany's Capital by the way) are a lowly 12th in the Bundesliga, so a city's prowess in a particular football league is no statement to its importance on the World stage ................ this IS the 'City Bashing Thread' isn't it?!?!?

I think within Germany Berlin is pretty poor and working class, so I'm not sure your logic truly stands up.

Historically, football has always thrived in poorer working class cities .... which is why the South Americans are so good at it!

Hertha Berlin (Germany's Capital by the way) are a lowly 12th in the Bundesliga, so a city's prowess in a particular football league is no statement to its importance on the World stage ................ this IS the 'City Bashing Thread' isn't it?!?!?

Howcome Sheffield does so badly at it then :dunno:

^^ Cos you're all posh! ;)

Must be :|

Well, look at all those peeps who were in Park Hill with their speedboats and Bentleys!

Catchers mitt and bowling ball maybe? Pictured on an exotic island, Man or Wight perhaps.:)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/166/hawaiicruise138dy9.jpg

Do any UK cities have these yet? Dining rooms are over decorated, food is over cooked and way over priced.:ohno:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5246/pict00051zi7.jpg

We had one at the Trafford Centre Shopping Mall in Manchester when it opened in 1998.

Didn't last long, closed after about 5 years. Now a Nandos.

We had one at the Trafford Centre Shopping Mall in Manchester when it opened in 1998.
Didn't last long, closed after about 5 years. Good for them, it is an over priced fast food chain.

Do any UK cities have these yet? Dining rooms are over decorated, food is over cooked and way over priced.:ohno:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5246/pict00051zi7.jpg

The one in Las Vegas (MGM Grand) is great, really well done as you'd expect in Vegas & the animatronics are great, the kids loved the life sized elephants peering out of the bushes ...... they even simulate a thunderstorm with rain falling all around you, but done in a clever way so you don't get wet! The rainforest cafe in Disneyland Paris is not so good ..... the Americans have that knack for entertainment.

There's one in London. I liked it myself, although I haven't been for years.

So if this is the official city bashing thread, does that mean I can say what I like about Manchester and get away with it? ;)

Go for it! :)

^ But what about winding Mancs up? Is that allowed on this thread or are there civilised limits to "city bashing"? :)

Works both ways Monkey. It's 'Terminal' in here. ;)

^ But what about winding Mancs up? Is that allowed on this thread or are there civilised limits to "city bashing"? :)

It's not the most difficult thing in the world to do, but surely a Londoner should be jousting with the big cities ?

^ Yes perhaps so. But soon London and Manchester will be jostling for the Champions League so Manc-bashing seems appropriate at this time. :)

^ Yes perhaps so. But soon London and Manchester will be jostling for the Champions League so Manc-bashing seems appropriate at this time. :)

No, thats Manchester United and Chelsea. There will be plenty of Londoners wanting Chelsea to lose as well as plenty of Mancunians wanting United to lose.

'Bash' all you want, but the real bashing will take place in Moscow, so I'm gonna leave it til the 22nd May, when the 2 competitions have been decided.

May the best team win.......(Man U) :)

No, thats Manchester United and Chelsea. There will be plenty of Londoners wanting Chelsea to lose as well as plenty of Mancunians wanting United to lose.I see things in more simplistic terms. :)

Manchester is poo poo!

NA! I've had my say. This thread rocks. Lets have a nation bashing thread. Armenia gets right on my nerves. :banana:

And most of the rest of the country couldn't give a toss about the Champions League Final, cause it's the same old, boring, like the Premiership.


Lets have a nation bashing thread. Armenia gets right on my nerves. :banana:

Why, is it full of mancs?


And I thought you were allergic to bananas? :sly:

Only Banana's from Birmingham.


I dont like Armenia because its pointless. In my eyes, the place is like Sandwell.

I have never heard of a banana being grown in Birmingham, lots of other things, yes, but not bananas.

The Bananas are really from Leeds, you just didn't want to tell anyone. :sly:

I grow banana's!

Birminghams climate is ripe for them. Especially in the heat of Lozelles.

Ah, I see, using the Urban Heat Island effect. :yes:

So why do you grow them if your allergic to them? :dunno:

You should grow some carrots instead. :yes:

Whos on about the Champions League? Sod that, Pompey are gonna win the FA!

Good job you didn't just say F.A. ;)

LOL!

Meh, Portsmouth have the title of holding the FA Cup for the longest anyway, 7 years! Ok so a few of those years were due to the cup being suspended due to a little thing called WW2... But it's a title all the same.

Ah, I see, using the Urban Heat Island effect. :yes:

So why do you grow them if your allergic to them? :dunno:

You should grow some carrots instead. :yes:

I am trying to find a cure during my spare time. I've so far been unsuccessful.

The thing about the Champions League is that I heard many Mancs were going to struggle to afford the tickets to Moscow. It must seem an awful lot when you're on the dole.

I remember reading somewhere that if the government slashed the dole by 50% then Manchester's economy would go under. Is that true?

A question for Mancs: what's it like being poor? Does it really suck like what they say?

:D

LOL!

Meh, Portsmouth have the title of holding the FA Cup for the longest anyway, 7 years! Ok so a few of those years were due to the cup being suspended due to a little thing called WW2... But it's a title all the same.

Thats not a title.

Senator is a title. Holding the fa cup for 7 years due to world war 2 is a sentence.

Rather be a Manc then a ****!

A question for Mancs: what's it like being poor? Does it really suck like what they say?
What's it like being an insufferable, elitist, ****?

The thing about the Champions League is that I heard many Mancs were going to struggle to afford the tickets to Moscow. It must seem an awful lot when you're on the dole.

I remember reading somewhere that if the government slashed the dole by 50% then Manchester's economy would go under. Is that true?

A question for Mancs: what's it like being poor? Does it really suck like what they say?

:D

The general consesus amongst football fans is that all Manchester United fans come from London which must account for the fact that Forbes have just valued Manchester United at £905 million, just ahead of second place Real Madrid at £646 million

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7377058.stm

Rather be a Manc then a ****!I dunno about that. I think I'd rather be a ****. :D

What's it like being an insufferable, elitist, ****?Very good thank you. :D

The general consesus amongst football fans is that all Manchester United fans come from London which must account for the fact that Forbes have just valued Manchester United at £905 million, just ahead of second place Real Madrid at £646 million

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7377058.stmSo Londoners subsidise the football team as well as the city? ;)

Cockneys are wonderful







Chokes, spits, stamps.

So Londoners subsidise the football team as well as the city? ;)

No they do it by choice, unlike TV licence payers.

Langur is playing with fire lol!
Ill Tonkso, you need to win the cup first!

Leeds, detest that city. All football teams aside, i went there expecting a great weekend, i thought the city centre wanted to be manchester. The night out was terrible, lots of violence and dickheads about. Nothing special architecture wise, just a dump. How this city has risen to such relative(face it it's never going to be up with Manc,Liverpool or Brum. No matter how many statistics you pull out of your arses.) prominence is beyond me.

Leeds, detest that city. All football teams aside, i went there expecting a great weekend, i thought the city centre wanted to be manchester. The night out was terrible, lots of violence and dickheads about. Nothing special architecture wise, just a dump. How this city has risen to such relative(face it it's never going to be up with Manc,Liverpool or Brum. No matter how many statistics you pull out of your arses.) prominence is beyond me.

Cat placed quite firmly amongst pidgeons.

I agree.

Oh dear, wiggley is going to have a field day. :ohno:

Leeds, detest that city. All football teams aside, i went there expecting a great weekend, i thought the city centre wanted to be manchester. The night out was terrible, lots of violence and dickheads about. Nothing special architecture wise, just a dump. How this city has risen to such relative(face it it's never going to be up with Manc,Liverpool or Brum. No matter how many statistics you pull out of your arses.) prominence is beyond me.

Arf.

http://www.maison-de-stuff.net/john/pictures/barcelona/SANY0114.JPG

Swindon's worse :yes: :no:

Yeah, Swindon thinks it's so great. It just wants to be Reading.

It's a load of old rubbish. Everybody's either a mugger or a rapist, and all the buildings are like big poos.

Swindon is like the Herpes cold sore on the face of Wiltshire, (but then Wiltshire is a whore of a county so it's not surprising...) :sly: ;)

Leeds, detest that city. All football teams aside, i went there expecting a great weekend, i thought the city centre wanted to be manchester. The night out was terrible, lots of violence and dickheads about. Nothing special architecture wise, just a dump. How this city has risen to such relative(face it it's never going to be up with Manc,Liverpool or Brum. No matter how many statistics you pull out of your arses.) prominence is beyond me.

But most English cities have drunks /dickheads etc when the night gets going:ohno:Leeds is over rated though,bit dissapointing when I was there 12 months ago,may have got better,but its no dump

Oh dear, wiggley is going to have a field day. :ohno:

I'm sorry to have to tell you this but on reading the post wiggley spontaneously combusted, in a doubly tragic turn of events he went up with such ferocity that he wiped out ALL of his often quoted housemates, police think around 700 lost their lives and not a single corner of the UK hasn't gone unaffected. He'll be missed:(

;)

I'm sorry to have to tell you this but on reading the post wiggley spontaneously combusted, in a doubly tragic turn of events he went up with such ferocity that he wiped out ALL of his often quoted housemates, police think around 700 lost their lives and not a single corner of the UK hasn't gone unaffected. He'll be missed:(

;)

troll!

:lol: What no giant red lettering and llama icon:|

Just for you Boards :llama:




P.S. Love the tags for this thread :lol:

bitchfest, ooooh slap youuu., scratch your eyes out., ssc mating ritual

Ah, brings back the memories. The tags are bizarre:lol:

Leeds is statistically more likely to grow legs and save the universe from destruction by a giant fruitfly than any other city in the country bar Portsmouth, although this is probably only due to Portsmouth higher population density.

Leeds is statistically more likely to grow legs and save the universe from destruction by a giant fruitfly than any other city in the country bar Portsmouth, although this is probably only due to Portsmouth higher population density.

Is that because of it's special powers as the chosen city of the ancient Holy order of Zunda? There are so many obvious pointers to the fact. Kirkgate market, for instance, is built upon the pretzel of Icke. A medieval relic with the power to turn all who view it into slugs.

^^ I think I read that somewhere...

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/06/20/citys-folk-named-as-happiest/

Why cities are sad or happy

The Happiest Cities Are:

•Bristol: Great historic port
•Wolverhampton: Home to Wolves
•York: York Minster & railway museum
•Plymouth: Attractive city on coast
•Sheffield: City of steel, rejuvinated
•Glasgow: Former City of culture
•Edinburgh: Ancient & beautiful capital
•Coventry: Back from the Blitz
•Manchester: Unbowed by IRA bombs
•Aberdeen: The Granite City

The Unhappiest Cities Are:

•Newcastle: Fog on the Tyne
•Cardiff: It rains a lot
•Birmingham: Worst train station
•Swansea: Rains there too
•Leeds: Tough on the Tykes
•Portsmouth: Hates Southampton
•Southampton: Hates Portsmouth
•London: Traffic and smog
•Brighton: Suburb of London
•Liverpool: Self pity city (It's true, it really is!) :lol:

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/06/20/citys-folk-named-as-happiest/

You must be so happy living seventy miles from the coast in a concrete jungle with your accent making you sound like a complete twat,take a deep breath and take in the soot.:D

with your accent making you sound like a complete twat.:cheers:

Pot, Kettle, Black. :|

Pot, Kettle, Black. :|

Good come back.:)

That's almost the opposite of another survey published recently where Brighton was the happiest city, followed by Leeds.

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/06/20/citys-folk-named-as-happiest/

:no: prejudices amuse you van? which other ones amuse you? irish people are all thick? all people from pakistan run corner shops?

If Bristol is a great, historic port, then what does that make Liverpool?

Van is just upset, 'cos people confuse him with Howard from the Halifax.

Liverpool wasn't a great trading city, it simply managed to corner the market in slaves, but has been wallowing in poverty and self pity since the good old English took it all away by banning the trade!

Van is just upset, 'cos people confuse him with Howard from the Halifax.

The voice of the uninformed! :|

bash bash!

Ya Ma...
(T'was an elbow in Yoshi's ribs, Erebus ;))

People from Wolverhampton may sound thick but at least they can usually be understood by the rest of the country and don't have a nasal "I spit when I talk" accent like certain other places. :sly:

:pet: never seen you so unhappy Buttertubs.

Never seen Buttertubs post in this thread! Something must be up! :eek:

People from Wolverhampton may sound thick but at least they can usually be understood by the rest of the country and don't have a nasal "I spit when I talk" accent like certain other places. :sly:

Aye. They just sould like they're going to infect you with the flu. Is nasal constipation a commonly used term? :?




;)

The 'Halifax Man' is actually from Birmingham. He's brummie born & bred so you might to check your facts ok.

The 'Halifax man' is nothing to be proud about imo.:)

halifax's HQs being in Leeds is tho ;)

halifax's HQs being in Leeds is tho ;)

Funny, I thought HBOS were headquartered in Edinburgh and the Halifax subsidiary was headquartered in... erm... Halifax!

Aye, its up on the Mound beside the castle (brightly lit one on the left)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1128/1218517620_537ad85c1c_o.jpg

Wow, that shot is just :drool:

Funny, I thought HBOS were headquartered in Edinburgh and the Halifax subsidiary was headquartered in... erm... Halifax!

naah. most empoyers in leeds. over 4,500 so shove that up ya manunian snatch lol

http://www.hbosplc.com/abouthbos/head_office.asp :wink2:
The corporate headquarters of HBOS plc stand majestically on the Mound, commanding stunning views over both the Old and New Towns of Edinburgh.

yea, "admin" hq is there. halifax still has its huge HQ in leeds employing thousands as halifax still retains autonomy despite being under HBOS.

so stick a bagpipe up *that* ! lol :P

You never give up do you - your poor mother must have had a dogs life with you :lol:

HBOS Corporate HQ is in Edinburgh. It's ok to be wrong sometimes :)

blah blah blah. i dont even know why glasgow is even on the skyscraper forums. it doesnt have any. or a CBD skyline. Its like having a website dedicated to diferent types of cars - with sub threads for diferent cars.. but with a thread for push-bikes :lol:

wot do u all talk about on the glasgow forums.. coz it aint skyscrapers lol

:runaway:

fight fight fight :D

Go have a look! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

:poke:


:P

sorry sweet cheeks, I'm just not up for it tonight :lol:

why not? its not like you have work tommoro.

1 in 3 are economically inactive in glasgow :ohno:

If only it were I.

sigh...

this is shocking....

Scotland is a pretty good case study in how not to run a country, which probably explains why the rest of the world ignores the socialist excesses of its recently devolved parliament in Edinburgh. Last year the state employed 28.4% of the Scottish workforce, according to unpublished ONS Labour Force Survey data; on top of that 17% of Scots were either unemployed or claiming incapacity benefit – in other words almost 50% of the potential Scottish labour force depends on the state for its income. Glasgow, Scotland’s largest city and once such an industrial powerhouse it was known as “Second City of the Empire”, is now the undisputed capital of Dependency Britain. More than 50% of Glaswegian households have no earned income, the highest ratio in Britain and a new high watermark for the dependency culture. According to some estimates, state-financed health spending per head in Glasgow is now higher than any other city in the world.

:ohno:

you are such a slut, it's practically biting the leg off you :lol:

I told you, not tonight love, I have a sore head :nono:

yea, "admin" hq is there. halifax still has its huge HQ in leeds employing thousands as halifax still retains autonomy despite being under HBOS.

so stick a bagpipe up *that* ! lol :P

No, the office in Leeds is simply that, a big office. It's not their headquarters. Their headquarters are on Trinity Road in Halifax, whilst the HBOS headquarters are in Edinburgh.

http://www.hbosplc.com/abouthbos/company_structure.asp

I don't see any Leeds offices listed for either HBOS or their subsidiaries. It's like calling Manchester's RBS office their "headquarters". Big office? Yes. Headquarters? No.

No, the office in Leeds is simply that, a big office. It's not their headquarters. Their headquarters are on Trinity Road in Halifax, whilst the HBOS headquarters are in Edinburgh.

http://www.hbosplc.com/abouthbos/company_structure.asp

I don't see any Leeds offices listed for either HBOS or their subsidiaries. It's like calling Manchester's RBS office their "headquarters". Big office? Yes. Headquarters? No.

irwell do you know how incredibley boring you are? I know youve been away.. have u been creating a computer-generated female friend for yourself like in wierd science?

irwell do you know how incredibley boring you are? I know youve been away.. have u been creating a computer-generated female friend for yourself like in wierd science?

I don't tend to come in this part much anymore, I just felt like proving you wrong again for old time's sake. :cheers:

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Wiggy, don't you think you should answer Irwell's points before decending into personal insults?

Ah, what the heck let's just get the popcorn out and watch...

I don't tend to come in this part much anymore, I just felt like proving you wrong again for old time's sake. :cheers:

youve never proved me wrong, u just drone on and on till we get bored of you :)

this is a piss take thread.. not a pedantic facts and figures thread. One day you'll have (paid) sexual relations and you'll lighten up :nuts:

wot do u all talk about on the glasgow forums.. coz it aint skyscrapers lol


We bitch about you:)

this is shocking....

Scotland is a pretty good case study in how not to run a country, which probably explains why the rest of the world ignores the socialist excesses of its recently devolved parliament in Edinburgh. Last year the state employed 28.4% of the Scottish workforce, according to unpublished ONS Labour Force Survey data; on top of that 17% of Scots were either unemployed or claiming incapacity benefit – in other words almost 50% of the potential Scottish labour force depends on the state for its income. Glasgow, Scotland’s largest city and once such an industrial powerhouse it was known as “Second City of the Empire”, is now the undisputed capital of Dependency Britain. More than 50% of Glaswegian households have no earned income, the highest ratio in Britain and a new high watermark for the dependency culture. According to some estimates, state-financed health spending per head in Glasgow is now higher than any other city in the world.

:ohno:


yep, Scotland is far from perfect. looks like we'll just have to content ourselves with the fact that us Scots are all incredibly cool, witty and ridiculously handsome :cheers:

Couldn't have put it better:cheers2:

lol

. do u have a photo? ;)

Its too great for mortal eyes to see:ohno:

I could always put up a pic of Michelle McManus though;)

lol

. do u have a photo? ;)


no, I just did a google image search hoping to find pictures of a drunk, ginger Scotsman that I was going to hilariously pretend was a photo of me, but can't find a single picture matching that description

what the hell is the world coming to you when you can't find any pictures of drunk, ginger Scotsmen? :mad:

if you want to find a scotsman just google search "big issue seller" :)

http://k43.pbase.com/o3/94/17294/1/87918245.4FCmLVNb.PeterwithDraganwithFilter.web

Hey thats not fair! That woman didn't get a chance to shave for that pic!

Ah thats nice, looks just like my Grandad :)

(he's English though, so doesn't fit into your theory)

lol.

ok wot about this one.. he's kind of handsome i think

http://homepage.mac.com/huntington.c/Images/scotsman.jpg

that beard is incredible. might grow me one of those bad boys myself

I'd shag him anyday.:cheers:

I think hes related to Gimli
http://www.geocities.com/lotr_osgiliath/twotowers-gimli1.jpg

the pubic beard is the give away

I'd shag him anyday.:cheers:


can i watch? ;)

*goes and gets a ginger beard and fat belly*

Pervert:)

On a different note, check out our sexy accents:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXGP4Sez_Us&feature=related

I didn't know whether to put this in the "profile abroad" or "City bashing" thread, I think it is best in this thread.:)

I have been listening to a call in talk radio show while driving home this evening. The topic was "your worst vacation experience" and a caller had some scathing remarks about the UK and one city, and it's inhabitants, in particular. He said the UK in general was a total ripoff but saved his major criticism for this one city. He said the only decent place to eat in this city was in the Indian restaurants because everything else tasted like it had been cooked in old sheep fat and if the restaurants were in Canada then the public health inspector would close all of them for hygiene violations. He said the hotel, an American chain, cost him $150.00 a night (£75.00) and they should have been paying him to stay there. The towels were like sandpaper, the shower had no pressure and the water was tepid. The food in the hotel restaurant was unpalatable, except for breakfast when he would only chance the cereal. He said if he hadn't been on an expense account he would have sued the hotel.

However, he saved his most scathing words for the people, describing them as uncouth, uncivil and unclean. He said their clothes smelled, constantly, of wet burlap. He advised that when riding on public transit buses not to sit and, if you have to sit, to sit by the window because those riders standing smelled like Limburger cheese and urine. He said he though they washed about once a week, whether they needed to or not. He didn't think the news of the discovery of deodorant had reach those parts, yet.

It was hilarious. And the city? Leeds, England.:)