I'm surprised by how much Manchester is east / west and not north south in the really bright area.

I suspect it is the city centre, through Salford Quays and Trafford Park that is really bright.

What are we looking at here? Where's the link to these lights pics everyone is referring to . I feel left out

What are we looking at here? Where's the link to these lights pics everyone is referring to . I feel left out

Huh? It's right there?

Has your mum put parental block on pictures again? ;)

In addition Liverpool-Manchester is just one urban sprawl of c4-5m.

I've said this a number of times. Just thought I better not mention it in this forum :shifty:

BTW. Newcastle looks fucking massive there.

I know people from Runcorn who say they are from Liverpool. I think this is because their parents moved out of Liverpool in the 80s and moved into Runcorn like tens of thousands of families did. Runcorn is just a scouse town now but it is in Cheshire so I dont think that these people are from Liverpool, they just have Liverpudlian heritage.

There's only one pic showing posted by tucbiscuit which is I'm guessing of GM but you've all reffered to pics of the other urban areas of which there is no pics?

Lol oops. The entire pic is the uk. I'm on my mobile phone

^Was about to suggest an eye test but I guess squinting at a phone screen it's forgivable :p

Stiff neck.
Cup of tea.
Shortbread biscuit.What do you weigh in at? You seem to shift an awful large amount of cookies.:)

What about next year Mayoral vote for the larger UK cities?

What are you lot going to bitch about when GM gets it's Mayor?

Overseeing the lot, for surely it will!

Brum will not take on board the Black Country. Certain they will vote that down.

Therefore, come 2013 we will be the largest city outside of London by some distance.

Result.

Job done.

Power ahead.

Brum will be like the urban mass on the Rhine, separate but large. Only Manchester will be classed as one urban city.

Going to be tremendous watching the Tykes coming over to Bolton to try to kick-start the separatist movement.

West Bank
Belfast
Berlin

Bolton


Lol

Demented!

What do you weigh in at? You seem to shift an awful large amount of cookies.:)

Shortbread isn't a cookie. Boards would be horrified.

Had my pre-op yesterday.

Slightly over my NHS ideal weight. Nothing to worry about though. The rest of me is fine apart from my slipped disc.

Ops on Monday afternoon. Shortbread fngers crossed.

Demented!

Time for another jrb video. (speakers on)

:horse:

EOe18JcatZo

(it's my fav crimbo pop song)

Shortbread isn't a cookie. Boards would be horrified.



:cheers:

Had my pre-op yesterday.



Settled on a cup size yet?

:cheers:



Settled on a cup size yet?

Mug. :colgate:

:lol: Do you think you'll get any ring marks?

:lol: Do you think you'll get any ring marks?

If I do, hopefully I can 'handle' it.

Thank you! Once again I thank you!

Didn't we do some similar the other night and it ended up being silly? :lol:

For all you sattelight night time Ariel lovers

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/ISS010-E-7733-1.jpg

If I do, hopefully I can 'handle' it.

Thank you! Once again I thank you!

Didn't we do some similar the other night and it ended up being silly? :lol:

Your welcome. Zips mouth.

For all you sattelight night time Ariel lovers

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/ISS010-E-7733-1.jpg

Nice. Pretty cool looking at the city centres. Look at the M62. You can see it travelling across the Pennines round the Manchester by-pass then popping out the other side.

looks like a mamogram

:puke::lol: Great to see you back in here :cheers: You still got those streetviews of the City Centre? I'm too lazy to look on google myself.

BTW. Looking at Central Manchester you see the City Centre, The Quays then Trafford Park - what's the bright triangle? Is it The Trafford Centre?

SEE: GLASGOW (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=670158)

Cheers, mate. That thread seems to have escaped me. I don't venture much outside of the UK forum. Checked the Tokyo Skytree and that's about it.

yeah the link in my sig is a little subtle. just like me. ho.ho.ho.

BTW. Looking at Central Manchester you see the City Centre, The Quays then Trafford Park - what's the bright triangle? Is it The Trafford Centre?

Unfortunately I think it is. :lol:

Peel would be proud that you can see their circus from space.

That ain't the TC I don't think. Too far north.

I suspect that is the M60/M61 junction.

For all you sattelight night time Ariel lovers

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/danlad/ISS010-E-7733-1.jpg


Here's another :)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2762/mapiru.jpg

Such a waste of talent. ^^

Leeds is calling.

There must be something of note going on?

Perhaps not.

Such a waste of talent. ^^

Leeds is calling.

There must be something of note going on?

Perhaps not.

Ah your only bummed because there's nowt about citeh.

:lol:

That ain't the TC I don't think. Too far north.

I suspect that is the M60/M61 junction.

Pretty sure it is. The whole thing's at an angle, tilt your head to the right. Leeds isn't that level with Manchester.

F5xg v

Remembered whilst I was out today.

Those that get all wound up about individuals calling themselves Manc when they are not from the local authority are probably unaware just how deep this attitude runs.

The 10 councils also go under the Manchester banner on some occassions.

The Visit Manchester - www.visitmanchester.com - website covers ALL of Greater Manchester and is the tourism web site for all the boroughs - clearly each council has sought to go under the Manchester banner for tourism.


Also, MIDAS - www.investinmanchester.com - the Greater Manchester Business Investment agency, again funded by the ten boroughs goes under the name of Manchester. In fact, if you watch the animated interactive map it clearly suggests that the whole of Greater Manchester is Manchester.

Now I personally do NOT consider all of Greater Manchester to equate to Manchester, however, the idea that Manchester and Mancunians somehow do not exist outside of the local authority is clearly not a view help by many individauls around Greater Manchester or the local authorities themselves.

^^
http://visitliverpool.com

You'll need more than that Metro to convince us.

Convience you of what?

Remembered whilst I was out today.

Those that get all wound up about individuals calling themselves Manc when they are not from the local authority are probably unaware just how deep this attitude runs.

The 10 councils also go under the Manchester banner on some occassions.

The Visit Manchester - www.visitmanchester.com - website covers ALL of Greater Manchester and is the tourism web site for all the boroughs - clearly each council has sought to go under the Manchester banner for tourism.


Also, MIDAS - www.investinmanchester.com - the Greater Manchester Business Investment agency, again funded by the ten boroughs goes under the name of Manchester. In fact, if you watch the animated interactive map it clearly suggests that the whole of Greater Manchester is Manchester.

Now I personally do NOT consider all of Greater Manchester to equate to Manchester, however, the idea that Manchester and Mancunians somehow do not exist outside of the local authority is clearly not a view help by many individauls around Greater Manchester or the local authorities themselves.

phew.

But I do consider places outside of the local authority to be within Manchester.

It's not mutually exclusive as you appear to think.

Manchester and Salford councils consider merging nine more departments to reach £150m savings target
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June 17, 2011

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Manchester and Salford councils are looking at merging nine more departments to save cash.

As we revealed, plans have been drawn up to create one legal service for the two cities. But we have learned details of other mergers being explored.

IT and procurement are next on the list of services that could be merged. And there are even more mergers being explored as Manchester and Salford look to save £150m between them this year.

All 10 Greater Manchester councils have been looking into shared working for some time. But it is the first time the scale of Manchester and Salford’s potential partnership has been revealed.

A Salford council document says other areas of the council being explored jointly with Manchester council include ICT, transport, customer services, training, democratic services, procurement, HR and payroll and life chances.

It adds: “Efforts are now focussing on aligning effort to those likely to deliver more immediate results in 2011, starting with a more detailed analysis of ICT services and procurement and their potential for shared services.”

Salford council leader John Merry insisted there would not be a wholesale merger of all services.

He said: “It’s not going to be about merging everything, because both cities are very proud of their own identities.

They are services of a largely technical nature where it doesn’t ly matter who does them. Those of us elected by our own particular electorates need to preserve and protect their interests – so you can’t merge it all together.”

He added: “As far as possible this would be agreed by natural wastage.

“It’s not about making compulsory redundancies.”

Manchester council leader Sir Richard Leese said the plans were complimentary to work already going on within the 10 Greater Manchester authorities – and won’t come to fruition straight away.

He said: “These are not quick wins.

“This is more likely to be years three and four of the government’s cuts rather than the current year or next.”


A mayor for Greater Manchester would boost the region's economy and could have brought in the ill-fated congestion charge, two leading think tanks have claimed.

The Centre for Cities and Institute for Government have published a joint report backing the government's plans for elected mayors in leading English cities.

But it adds that a mayor for the whole of Greater Manchester – taking in all 10 existing councils – would better suit the local economy, and the preferences of local people.

The report, entitled 'Big Shot or Long Shot?', claims that a single politician with the power to shape the entire city region could have triggered a different outcome to the 2008 congestion-charging debate.

The idea of a toll zone went to a referendum - and was rejected by the public – after the ten councils could not agree whether to press ahead.

The report claims: 'The unwillingness of political leaders to commit to potentially unpopular decisions was a crucial element of this failure.'

Referenda will take place in 11 English cities – including Manchester - next May, asking people whether they want a mayoral figure like London's Boris Johnson.

The Centre for Cities is urging ministers to devolve even greater powers to city mayors than those currently proposed in its Localism Bill.

They say the London model has been a huge success and would help grow local economies.

But they also called for places like Manchester to be able to bid for more powerful 'metro mayors' to cover all of Greater Manchester.

Alexandra Jones, chief executive of Centre for Cities, said: "Mayors have the potential to improve how cities are governed but to realise their full promise they need additional powers and influence to those currently proposed.

“Centre for Cities research shows that skills, transport and planning remain the most significant and urgent barriers to growth; mayors will need to be able to tackle these through formal and informal powers.

“Citizens in every city and city region should be able to make their own decisions about the right governance for their place and their economy.

“So we are also urging the government to amend legislation to give cities the option to have either a local authority or metro mayor.”

So, Greater Manchester will become one big city. It'll start with Manchester and Salford, then I predict that Trafford will merge, then Stockport, Oldham, Bury etc etc etc.

Oh won't it be great? The city of Manchester will expand to nearly 10 times its' size, and soar to second/third largest city in the UK. :cheers:

No it won't.

Mancchester MBC will never have the boundaries adjusted, what you desccribe or working together has gone on for decades, it means nothing. It's just in the news at the moment because of the financial squeeze.

So, Greater Manchester will become one big city. It'll start with Manchester and Salford, then I predict that Trafford will merge, then Stockport, Oldham, Bury etc etc etc.

Oh won't it be great? The city of Manchester will expand to nearly 10 times its' size, and soar to second/third largest city in the UK. :cheers:

It'll still look and feel the same.

It'll still look and feel the same.

Agreed. Exactly as it looked and felt the day before the now defunct Met. Counties came into existence.

And Manchester will still be at the centre of a conurbation of 2 million plus as it was before 1974 and as it is now.

And Manchester will still be at the centre of a conurbation of 2 million plus as it was before 1974 and as it is now.

Only a fool would disagree with that.

So, Greater Manchester will become one big city. It'll start with Manchester and Salford, then I predict that Trafford will merge, then Stockport, Oldham, Bury etc etc etc.

Oh won't it be great? The city of Manchester will expand to nearly 10 times its' size, and soar to second/third largest city in the UK. :cheers:

It'll finally have a rugby team.

It'll finally have a rugby team.

Salford Reds?

Shit forgot, that Salford/Manchester thing agian.

Here's another :)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2762/mapiru.jpg

fair play, that's actually quite funny

Salford Reds?

Shit forgot, that Salford/Manchester thing agian.

Broughton Park

Broughton Park

Does the Salford Uni team I used to play for count? Given its closer to Manchester than it is Salford Reds?

It'll finally have a rugby team.

The sign posts around my way point to 'Manchester Sale rugby club' for Heywood road still despite them moving over to Stockport.

Does the Salford Uni team I used to play for count? Given its closer to Manchester than it is Salford Reds?

No

F5xg v

Is that computer speak for sphincter says what or something?

I would expect the National to be famous in Australia and New Zealand, they are former British colonies and they like the gee gees there.

Horse racing enthusiasts know it of course but for most in Australia it doesn't go past a 30sec news segment they might notice every 5 years. Similar to Kentucky Derby. Melbourne Cup is the only game in town really.

My ma was impressed with the size of Glasgow after her first day trip there

That is all.

And I'm sure you're going to say Glasgow was impressed with the size of my ma.

size queenie...

However I'm talking about the gravy train ending. I mean no more handouts for Manchester by central government. Pleading, begging, and bleating for subsidy from London

The only difference is that London didn't have to beg as all was poured their way anyhow. London gets twice as much public money per capita than all the rest.

London should get more money though, it's the biggest.

It gets disproportionately more though.

http://www.pteg.net/NR/rdonlyres/34058AE6-C6D4-47F0-AB93-A53D36658676/0/The2010ptegFundingGapreportfinal.pdf

'although London accounts for just 15 per cent of the population in England (Figure 2), the city received 30 per cent of transport spending in 2008/09 (Figure 3). It is the only region where proportion of transport spending exceeds proportion of population, and it does so by a significant margin.'

Complaining about London bias on the internet will achieve precisely nothing. If the problem is as big as it seems, why don't northerners march on London and bring the issue to the nation's attention that way? A few hundred northerners could easily shut down a busy tube station or an important road at rush hour with sit-down protests, and Westminster would have no choice then but to address the issue.

I more interesting comparison would be between London and the PTE areas, as this is a more realistic comparison. Even there you would expect London to get more transport funding (as it is more expensive to build and run the infrastructure for 8 million than it is for 2) but it's rather meaningless to compare the spend in London to Yorkshire or the South West.

For those who are not aware, MarineMan is the troll, John from Milton Keynes.

He's doing his best to ruin all the threads in the Liverpool forum, probably best not feeding him.

I more interesting comparison would be between London and the PTE areas, as this is a more realistic comparison. Even there you would expect London to get more transport funding (as it is more expensive to build and run the infrastructure for 8 million than it is for 2) but it's rather meaningless to compare the spend in London to Yorkshire or the South West.

It's also very interesting to see how much PTE's raise locally (including London).

TfL obviously take transport very seriously, the congestion charge pays towards better public transport.

In my view the fact that in Merseyside the transport levy on the council tax is miles higher than in West Yorks suggests that public transport is taken much more seriously in Merseyside than in WY.

Although there's the argument that any region that receives disproportionately less from central funds would be less inclined to invest locally raised money in its transport (because it would be politically unpalatable to raise taxes for a service that's guaranteed to be poor).

I don't know if WY does receieve less than Merseyside, but it's a possible explanation.

I'll dig out the numbers later, all councils tend to publish this info thankfully.

In my opinion different places have very different transport requirements as such you would not expect identical spending on transport.

We don't expect the government to spend the same on welfare in Teeside and Richmond, the same on boarder protection in Milton Keynes and Dover. Different areas have different needs.

True, but places of comparable density shouldn't typically require different levels of funding. I suspect that the difference between Merseyside and WY is that while the central area of the former is very monocentric the polycentric nature of the later makes public transport less useful to a majority of its residents, and therefore a lower poltical priority.

cher, you talk far too much sense to be posting here

True, but places of comparable density should require different levels of funding. I suspect that the difference between Merseyside and WY is that while the central area of the former is very monocentric the polycentric nature of the later makes public transport less useful to a majority of its residents, and therefore a lower poltical priority.

Agree 100%.

Having just walked for 3.5hrs along the airport and Alty lines of the Metrolink expansion I am knackered and cannot be bothered doing the maths.

Page 25 of http://www.leeds.gov.uk/files/Internet2007/2011/10/ctaxinfobooklet20112012.pdf shows the WY transport levy.

http://www.sefton.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=3529 shows the accounts for Merseyside.

I'm sure when I did it with older figures the numbers were substantially different per person.

Having just walked for 3.5hrs along the airport and Alty lines of the Metrolink expansion I am knackered and cannot be bothered doing the maths.The average adult human being walks at approximately 4.8 klm per hour. So, you walked a distance of approximately 15 kilometers.

Glad to see you embracing the metric system over there.

Glad to see you embracing the metric system over there.Not really, it is part of a problem my company is trying to solve on behalf of a Canadian company, metric is the system they operate in.

..

Not really, it is part of a problem my company is trying to solve on behalf of a Canadian company, metric is the system they operate in.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

God Almighty....I think I've wet meself....Please don't ever leave us or get yourself brigged again Sloyne!!!

Not really, it is part of a problem my company is trying to solve on behalf of a Canadian company, metric is the system they operate in.

Why does a Canadian company care how far Kurt walked?

Not really, it is part of a problem my company is trying to solve on behalf of a Canadian company, metric is the system they operate in.

1 kilometer = 0.621371192 miles

Can I work for your company?

What kind of salary would I expect.

Do I own a bonus for calculating the above equation?

Can you pay my interview costs?

1 kilometer = 0.621371192 miles

Can I work for your company?

What kind of salary would I expect.

Do I own a bonus for calculating the above equation?

Can you pay my interview costs?It is to do with moving sidewalks in a facility with high pedestrian traffic. Manchester will likely get one of those when it gets it's new post-panamax cruise terminal to be constructed on the banks of the Irwell River. And no, we have a policy of only employing educated people, or at the very least, people who can think. We know Mancs have very active imaginations, I mean anyone who would consider Atlanta a backwater and Sydney on a par with New York is, truly, imaginative but, not what we are looking for.:lol:

We know Mancs have very active imaginations, I mean anyone who would consider Atlanta a backwater and Sydney on a par with New York is, truly, imaginative but, not what we are looking for.:lol:
Let's hope your legal department is staffed up?

Yet more fantasy postings from the ex-pat.

Let's hope your legal department is staffed up?

Yet more fantasy postings from the ex-pat.Doesn't it embarrass you that you lose every exchange? I will admit that you, when losing an exchange, are less prone to using the "sloyne" defense, unlike Piles Shitting, kids and jrb.

And by all means, be my guest, initiate legal proceedings.:lol:

Went Granada Studios Tour over the weekend.

Was great in the sunshine.

Doesn't it embarrass you that you lose every exchange? I will admit that you, when losing an exchange, are less prone to using the "sloyne" defense, unlike Piles Shitting, kids and jrb.

And by all means, be my guest, initiate legal proceedings.:lol:

A. I don't lose to you.
B. Sloyne was your 'original' user name, hence why I still use it when replying to you.
C. Erm..... Can't be arsed.

Went Granada Studios Tour over the weekend.Shouldn't that read? Went toor 't' weekend. You know, Woolly back speak.:lol:

Was great in the sunshine.Not in Manchester then?:lol:

Doesn't it embarrass you that you lose every exchange? I will admit that you, when losing an exchange, are less prone to using the "sloyne" defense, unlike Piles Shitting, kids and jrb.

And by all means, be my guest, initiate legal proceedings.:lol:

I did not say it.
You quote it.

Most peculiar!

Very, very strange person.

Mentioned this before but crowd sourcing seems to have you sussed.

Euxtex, Manchester tends to do better temperature wise in these kind of conditions , It rained in parts of Merseyside yesterday, hot and sunny in Manchester,

Todays temps at 1300 from Met office
Woodford station nr Manchester 28.5c
Crosby station. nr Liverpool 18.5c

Euxtex, Manchester tends to do better temperature wise in these kind of conditions , It rained in parts of Merseyside yesterday, hot and sunny in Manchester,

Todays temps at 1300 from Met office
Woodford station nr Manchester 28.5c
Crosby station. nr Liverpool 18.5c

They're the best days to be by the coast.That's a nice beach day that,minus the rain like and that's if Crosby even had rain?

Very sunburnt today.

Being able to work in the garden on days like today is spot on :D

It has been boiling and sunny in Liverpool today.

Euxtex, Manchester tends to do better temperature wise in these kind of conditions , It rained in parts of Merseyside yesterday, hot and sunny in Manchester,

Todays temps at 1300 from Met office
Woodford station nr Manchester 28.5c
Crosby station. nr Liverpool 18.5c

Warmer still once you get over the Pennines to Yorkshire/Lincolnshire/Norfolk, widespread 30.c today (including Leeds).

Euxtex, Manchester tends to do better temperature wise in these kind of conditions , It rained in parts of Merseyside yesterday, hot and sunny in Manchester,

Todays temps at 1300 from Met office
Woodford station nr Manchester 28.5c
Crosby station. nr Liverpool 18.5cOnce again we see it, a Manc playing fast and loose with figures. Today's maximim temp in Manchester, according to this web site was; well see for yourself. FMML.:ohno: http://uk.weather.com/weather/today-Manchester-UKXX0092?fromSearch=true

Tomorrow shows Manc with a high of 17 and RAIN.:lol:

NW Tonight had the max temps today.

Generally 28-29 around the Manc locations listed, over 10 degrees lower for Liverpool.

Not saying that in the burbs it was that cooler in Liverpool, but that is what NW Tonight reported.

Online if you want to see the NW Tonight wearher forecast.

Christ - I cannot believe some tosser, 3,000 who makes up bull shits cares that it was sunny and hot in Manchester today :lol:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/news/newsid_7760000/7760854.stm

I did not say it.
You quote it.

Most peculiar!

Very, very strange person.

Mentioned this before but crowd sourcing seems to have you sussed.
His professional career peaked when he reached the dizzy heights of assistant cook in the Merchant Navy. That's where he gained his knowledge of 'moving sidewalks'. Schlepping around in a crowded ship's galley. ;)

Means f* all, but am switching my computer off soon so you can play with this overnight

http://www.retailgazette.co.uk/articles/34134-manchester-ranked-uks-second-retail-centre

:D

Generally 28-29 around the Manc locations listed, over 10 degrees lower for Liverpool.You Mancs have a penchant for comparing the place to every city other than those city's which are your direct comparison. i.e. Sheffield, Leeds, Nottingham, Leicester, Derby, Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley etc. Liverpool, Barcelona, Antwerp, Hamburg, Marseilles, Naples, Genoa, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Auckland, Boston, Baltimore, Miami are all seaports. Manc is a land-locked large mill town with the idea it is more than it is. At least most Mancs posting on here would give that impression. I have seen posted on these forums, by Mancs, Manchester compared to all the foregoing seaports. :ohno:

Sloyne - I was reponding to Tomo90.

Get off to Granada Studios tour now. There is a good boy :lol:

The weather reports are usually ok at best. Im in my house in Liverpool and it is boiling even though it has gone cloudy. Today I got burned off the sun when I was walking about. Boiling!

To be fair, I am happy for Manchester to be hot I wasnt suggesting otherwise but Liverpool was defo at least 25 degrees today.

This forum is amusing.

A simple comment about it being warm today makes everyone very defensive :D

Wasn't meant as anything. If any of us really wanted warm summers we would not be living in the UK would we?

Means f* all, but am switching my computer off soon so you can play with this overnight

http://www.retailgazette.co.uk/articles/34134-manchester-ranked-uks-second-retail-centre

:D

Yep means nothing...

Leeds has a much nicer shopping environment than Manchester

This forum is amusing.

A simple comment about it being warm today makes everyone very defensive :D

Wasn't meant as anything. If any of us really wanted warm summers we would not be living in the UK would we?

Not sure about that last bit. I want warm summers and winters but find Australia tacky, South Africa'a poverty and wealth separation too 18th century and cannot gain access to the USA!

I don't generally include weather as a factor when judging cities, either local or foreign. I just don't get too bothered about the weather, some people get so obsessed about the sun they book weeks off to some shit resort to drink too much and lie on the beach for days at a time turning themselves horrible colours. I find that a bit sad. But then so is posting on internet forums... :shifty:

I probably just see it as part of the forces of nature and all that, nothing more. Whenever I think of rain the image in my head is often the Water Cycle diagram from primary school.

Not sure about that last bit. I want warm summers and winters but find Australia tacky, South Africa'a poverty and wealth separation too 18th century and cannot gain access to the USA!

Erm.... London??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/10209

Tuesday - 24.c
Wednesday - 22.c
Thursday - 21.c
Friday - 22.c
Saturday - 23.c

Once again we see it, a Manc playing fast and loose with figures. Today's maximim temp in Manchester, according to this web site was; well see for yourself. FMML.:ohno: http://uk.weather.com/weather/today-Manchester-UKXX0092?fromSearch=true

Tomorrow shows Manc with a high of 17 and RAIN.:lol:

So, metoffice show 18c for Manc tommorrow and 16c for Liverpool with evening rain for both

BTW I am not a Manc :baeh3:

Not sure about that last bit. I want warm summers and winters but find Australia tacky, South Africa'a poverty and wealth separation too 18th century and cannot gain access to the USA!

Thought you went to Florida not so long ago.

This forum is amusing.

A simple comment about it being warm today makes everyone very defensive :D

Wasn't meant as anything. If any of us really wanted warm summers we would not be living in the UK would we?

Sorry I didnt mean for my post to come across like that. I just thought that Liverpool today felt hotter than 18 degrees.

Sorry I didnt mean for my post to come across like that. I just thought that Liverpool today felt hotter than 18 degrees.

No probs.

It wasn't aimed at yourself, you are far less defensive than many on here.

It's just no matter how innocent a posting someone will read something into it that is not there.

A simple post that I got sunburnt today leads to Sloyne making jibes about Manchester. The sad fucker 3,000 miles ago has nothing better to do than make up bull shit and destroy a normal discussion.

Chinese President popped in to see how Longbridge is knocking out the new Shanghai MG and will surely put Brum on a pedestal when China wants to open up new business in the UK. And then he drove down into leafy Warwickshire to see Shakespeare's birthplace at Stratford Upon Avon. All before he even set foot in London. Oh and he stayed at our Hyatt Regency for the night.

I want warm summers and winters but cannot gain access to the USA!Thank God for that, I was about to write my Congressman. :smug:

There is a way to gain access to US residency (Green Card) legally, if you really want it. It is to join the US armed forces. If you're not up to fighting in Afghanistan or Iraq, join the US Navy. You would likely spend most of your time either in San Diego or Pearl. Now there's a thought, imagine being stationed in Hawaii. The Navy might even teach you a skill. :)

You lot still pissing about with the weather???

I like to have a look around the different City forums and threads when I'm up ED's and when it's quiet. Especially when I've read most of the new posts on the Manc Forum.

Anyway. Had a look at the 'Is London sucking the life out of Liverpool?'(no mention of Manchester), amongst others. Some interesting views and a healthy debate is going-on. Fair enough.

Then I came across this piece of......(fill in as appropriate) I'll give him(?) the benefit of posting his full post.

The sole bit of evidence is the accent. mancs don't sound anything like Irish and neither do londoners. If a large enough influx had occured that would be different.

Now up until very recently people from Walton, Bootle, Kirkdale, Huyton, Kirkby etc spoke in an accent that was almost exactly the same as the accent of the famine victims; North-west Irish.(Roy Evans is from Bootle and he's c of e, so what's he sound like?)

I know london's a bigger place(manc, of course, was a tiny dump and a place so polluted a famine victim wouldn't have lasted five minutes there and of course the work there is so boring no-one of any intelligence could do it) but people of the same culture tend to congregate together, (look at Black Americans who tend to speak in their Southern accents even after many generations in Northern or Western cities) especially with the general hatred of the Irish in london then(and until recently, when decided they wanted a piece).

This all points to Irish Immigration into london being over a much longer period. There was never that sort of huge community to start a new and different culture and ACCENT.

And the general consensus across this forum from certain non Manc forum members is that Manc forum members are/have a............

Please.

It's not just Poolcool - John from Milton Keyens has said similar things in that thread.

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Thought you went to Florida not so long ago.

A holiday! Not to live! I wish!!

I decided to get out of that thread coz ithere is a few no tars chatting shit. MarineMan and Tuten are the worst.

A holiday! Not to live! I wish!!See post # 14854 above. Although not automatic, the method is almost assured.

It's not just Poolcool - John from Milton Keyens has said similar things in that thread.

I decided to get out of that thread coz ithere is a few no tars chatting shit. MarineMan and Tuten are the worst.

MarineMan is Mad John from Milton Keynes. He's a racist, xenophobic, sectarian abusive c*nt. No one takes anything he says seriously.

Manchester Confidential.

SHOPPERS and retailers in Leeds city centre could get some good news if plans to half parking charges get the go ahead. This makes for an interesting Tale of Two Cities, with Manchester set to increase parking charges and introduce Sunday charging.

We hope that adjusting prices like this will increase demand and therefore increase the economic vibrancy of the city.”

The proposals, put forward by Leeds City Council, aim to support hard pressed city centre retailers and businesses by encouraging visitors to come back to shop ‘til they drop.

"We hope that adjusting prices like this will increase demand and therefore increase the economic vibrancy of the city.”

Every year the council reviews parking charges to ensure prices reflect supply and demand. This year, ten new privately owned car parks and a drop in consumer confidence have contributed to a drop in demand.

If the proposals get the go-ahead, the new charges will come into force in July this year. Although some charges for high demand city centre spaces will increase, others will remain the same or be reduced by up to 50 per cent.

Highlights of the Leeds' proposals include:

A pound an hour charge on 900 Saturday spaces - a 50 per cent reduction for shorter stays.

A 50 per cent reduction in a further 275 spaces in Holbeck at only £2.20 for all day.

More flexible times – for example the council now offers two hours at Quarry Hill car park for dance classes at Northern Ballet.

Free parking in evenings and on Sundays will continue.

The move is in stark contrast to plans in Manchester, where councillors are expected to increase city centre parking charges on Wednesday, including the introduction of Sunday charging for the first time. The suprise rationale behind this is not to help ease the damage of central government cuts but to ease traffic flow, kill congestion and give everyone a chance of finding parking.

“These proposals are aimed at striking a balance between tackling congestion in the city centre and encouraging shoppers and visitors to the city to boost businesses and retailers,” said a spokesman for Leeds City Council.

“Rather than just put prices up, we're proposing a significant cut in many prices. Saturday is the main shopping day so we've gone to £1 an hour in 900 central spaces, which is a 50% cut for short stays. We hope that adjusting prices like this will increase demand and therefore increase the economic vibrancy of the city.”

Thanks to Bozo on Flickr for the image.

Complaining about London bias on the internet will achieve precisely nothing.


It spreads awareness.


If the problem is as big as it seems,


It is massive.


why don't northerners march on London and bring the issue to the nation's attention that way? A few hundred northerners could easily shut down a busy tube station or an important road at rush hour with sit-down protests, and Westminster would have no choice then but to address the issue.

Good point.

MarineMan is Mad John from Milton Keynes. He's a racist, xenophobic, sectarian abusive c*nt. No one takes anything he says seriously.

You need professional attention.

From the Guardian

Manchester International Festival highlights why city leads the way

Manchester lets its hair down and parties as visitors from more than 40 countries visit festival - and boost the city's economy by millions of pounds

It's the hottest ticket at this year's Manchester festival, a Doctor Who adventure in which you have one terrifying hour to save the world. The catch? It's only for kids... The Doctor himself, Matt Smith, is pictured.
One of the north's biggest arts festivals is set to draw hundreds of thousands of people to Manchester - and generate millions to the regional economy at the same time.

Organisers say the Manchester International Festival will attract music and theatre lovers from more than 40 countries. It features Icelandic pop star Bjork, Damon Albarn, Bury's own Victoria Wood, a live Doctor Who adventure, hip hop pioneer Snoop Dog, Sinead O'Connor and comedian Johnny Vegas alongside a celebration of Manchester talent and blind Malian superstars staging their first concert entirely in the dark.

It started yesterday and ends on 17 July.

As a Leeds lad born and bred I keep casting a begrudging glance over t'Pennines at events like this which Manchester seems to be able to organise so well. I recall fellow Leeds Loiner (and Guardian Northern Editor) Martin Wainwright's post on the success of last month's Manchester Day which saw 70,000 people lined the city's streets to watch floats led by a giant galleon. The event boosted the economy of the city by around £4 million.

When is Leeds going to get its act together?

As councillor Mike Amesbury, executive member for culture and leisure at Manchester city council, says:

"Manchester International Festival makes a massive contribution to the cultural offering of our great city and has helped establish us on the world stage as a leading artistic powerhouse.

"The festival also ensures that tens of millions of pounds are poured into the Manchester economy."

Festival director Alex Poots adds:

"MIF is a home for major artists to realise their most ambitious projects and we are grateful to them for entrusting their work to us. We hope audiences will enjoy this year's programme, featuring a greater number of large-scale productions created in collaboration with leading presenters from around the world."

The Guardian's Dave Simpson has reviewed last night's appearance by Bjork, which began her three-week festival residency.

Sounds like a festival well worth checking out! For more details, go to the event's website or take a look at a festival microsite set up by the Manchester Evening News which includes a live blog of the events.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2011/jul/01/manchester-international-festival-highlights-why-city-leads-way

^^
Well it is the Guardian after all.

^^
Well it is the Guardian after all.

What's that got to do with it?

Originally a Manchester based paper? Not that it matters in this day and age.

A strange decision putting that article in a city bashing thread though?

What's that got to do with it?

Not noted for negative stories where Manchester is concerned.

Not noted for negative stories where Manchester is concerned.

You're right Paul. In hindsight it should have gone in the Office/Economy thread. (must try harder jrb)

Saying that it didn't take East long to find a conspiracy. (not noted for negative.......) Can we now consider it bashing?

You're right Paul. In hindsight it should have gone in the Office/Economy thread. (must try harder jrb)

Saying that it didn't take East long to find a conspiracy. (not noted for negative.......) Can we now consider it bashing?


I didn't know that thread was for stuff like that,I just seen offices and switched off.:)

Could've been putting the Liverpool Biennial in there.

Saying that it didn't take East long to find a conspiracy. (not noted for negative.......) Can we now consider it bashing?

East is one of those people that considers all things positive in the Manc region to be down to external forces and everything negative down to local failures.

It really is very simple. :lol:

East is one of those people that considers all things positive in the Manc region to be down to external forces and everything negative down to local failures.

It really is very simple. :lol:

Don't know what gave you that impression. Is it the tough questions I keep asking?

Ner, it's the fact you only ask the tough questions about Manchester and seem to not actually care in the slightest in looking for the answer yourself.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1425494_mapped-population-hits-a-high-as-thousands-flock-to-manchester

Manchester is Britain’s fastest growing major city, with the population growing by three per cent in just 12 months.

Some 10,000 people flocked to live in the city last year, according to official government figures – more than Birmingham and Liverpool combined.

The influx, combined with 8,000 births and only 3,800 deaths, pushed Manchester’s population to 498,800. Experts believe that figure may already have broken through the half-a-million barrier.

Of hundreds of cities and towns across Britain, only Cambridge and Durham saw their populations rise by more than Manchester.

The influx included 1,600 people who moved from London to Manchester – reversing the traditional ‘brain drain’ south. Town hall chiefs said the statistics reflected Manchester’s growing global reputation as a world-class city.

We are moving.

^^ You mean staying, others are moving in!

^^ You mean staying, others are moving in!

Jeez. Yeah.

It goes onto say we are only 28,000 behind the West Midlands...with the BBC and East Manchester projects bringing massive development, we will soar past them within 2/3 years.

I keep saying the Government report, on the doomed casino bid, made very interesting reading which did not seem to get picked up upon by the local media. It stated a very bright future for GM and we being far and away the next powerhouse within the UK after London.

The signs are there, when you look.

Ryanair announcement this morning (sticking neck out) of an extra 28 routes and based aircraft should see is back to 20m+ passengers in 2012/13.

Booming again.

What's that got to do with it?

The Guardian is an official sponsor of the MIF, hence that ridiculous puff piece. The BBC hypes it every two years as well and for the same reason.

The Guardian is an official sponsor of the MIF, hence that ridiculous puff piece. The BBC hypes it every two years as well and for the same reason.

Could not the same be said about the Hay Festival then?

Baftas?
Emmys
Oscar's
World Cup
Olympics?
European City of Culture?

It is either a good festival or it is not. It seems this one is getting larger and attacting better names each year.

Nuff said.

Indeed, Liverpool should be holding this festival if it was building on the legacy of said European Capital of Culture.

It looks like the good long term bet for the arts in the Northwest has been won by Manchester?

The difference is that good or bad the Manchester thing (launched in paranoid envy of Liverpool's ECoC - that's the Manchester way) is hyped. ECoC was instead attacked by the BBC and the Guardian until its huge success was impossible to deny. That's the difference. Manchester could hold the shitting into cups fest every year and the BBC and the Guardian would praise it. That's what they do and always have.

The difference is that good or bad the Manchester thing (launched in paranoid envy of Liverpool's ECoC - that's the Manchester way) is hyped. ECoC was instead attacked by the BBC and the Guardian until its huge success was impossible to deny. That's the difference. Manchester could hold the shitting into cups fest every year and the BBC and the Guardian would praise it. That's what they do and always have.
Nowt to do with us? Perhaps your city is therefore doomed?

What suggestions, other than bitching about Manchester, do you have?

So, we can now add Manchester's festival to a long list of Liverpudlian gripes.

launched in paranoid envy.

Is that how Apple consider Google's Android?

Does Henry Ford turn in his grave at the mention of Toyota?

What a strange creature the whining Liverpudlian is!

Remarkable.

It would be nice if for the first time in history somebody in Manchester could come up with something new rather than aping others and usually Liverpool. The work of poseurs and frauds is of course second rate, inevitably so. That's not great really. Some of us like good stuff and we're never going to hear it with the hyping of Manchester-based inferiority.

It would be nice if for the first time in history somebody in Manchester could come up with something new...

:lol:

It would be nice if for the first time in history somebody in Manchester could come up with something new rather than aping others and usually Liverpool. The work of poseurs and frauds is of course second rate, inevitably so. That's not great really. Some of us like good stuff and we're never going to hear it with the hyping of Manchester-based inferiority.

Well we defo did not ape you media output?
Nor your airport?
Nor your railways?
Certainly not your attempt at a metro system?

We long surpassed your population and your football is so last century.

Luckily we ignored your religion and backwards looking outlook on life.

Yeah, even the loom technology stuff was innovated in other mill towns and only later used in Manchester itself. Don't believe the hype.

The Guardian is an official sponsor of the MIF, hence that ridiculous puff piece. The BBC hypes it every two years as well and for the same reason.

Here we go again. :lol:

Who's next?

I bet you weren't posting the same drivel when the Guardian and all the other broadsheets were writing similar positive articles about the CoC.

It seems you have a very distorted and short memory.

Yeah, even the loom technology stuff was innovated in other mill towns and only later used in Manchester itself. Don't believe the hype.

Or in your case Awayo, don't believe the shite.

Awayo: Public Enemy(No1)

Well we defo did not ape you media output?
Nor your airport?
Nor your railways?
Certainly not your attempt at a metro system?

We long surpassed your population and your football is so last century.

Luckily we ignored your religion and backwards looking outlook on life.

You get your (poor) media by grace of the state.

Manchester airport was created, late, long after Liverpool's innovative airport was. Then the state came along, took over Liverpool's airport and didn't hand it back until Manchester had been developed and the state airline forced to use it.

Liverpool built the railways aroudn the "north west", financed by Liverpool money. It is the state that it now attempting to build Manchester into a hub and sideline Liverpool.

Manchester woudn't want Liverpool metro system so much that it hoped to build one just like it (the Picc-Vic) line but settled for shitty trams as the government would only pay for them.

Nothing much to boast about there!

You get your (poor) media by grace of the state.

Manchester airport was created, late, long after Liverpool's innovative airport was. Then the state came along, took over Liverpool's airport and didn't hand it back until Manchester had been developed and the state airline forced to use it.


Actually, the 'original' Manchester Airport was in fact Barton, now City Airport Manchester.

This was the first purpose built municipal airport in the UK. (I was there for an open day yesterday too!)

Awayo will bang on about the Luftwaffe targeting Liverpool more than Manchester next.

What a strange creature.

Onwards and upwards goes Manchester. Bye-bye our Liverpool friends, to join the other `mill towns' who have contributed so much to our success.

:)

It looks like the good long term bet for the arts in the Northwest has been won by Manchester?

But we've got the Biennial which is the largest contemporary arts festival in the country (?) Why is it everything your city does has to automatically be better than everywhere else just because it's in Manchester? That's such a strange way of looking at things.

I suppose I'm one of the cavalry now to for having the audacity to pick up on a point?

The more arts festivals across the country the better, still got a long way for any english city to get close to the fringe.

But we've got the Biennial which is the largest contemporary arts festival in the country (?) Why is it everything your city does has to automatically be better than everywhere else just because it's in Manchester? That's such a strange way of looking at things.
The devil in the detail there?


It was Awayo attacking the Manchester Festival. The more the merrier. My response was that if his attitude prevails Liverpool is doomed.

Fly's ignorance just reinforces Awayo's point about boosterism.








:yes:

I suppose I'm one of the cavalry now to for having the audacity to pick up on a point?

:lol:

Cheee-aaaarrrrggggeeeeeee!

:horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse:

The devil in the detail there?


It was Awayo attacking the Manchester Festival. The more the merrier. My response was that if his attitude prevails Liverpool is doomed.


What am I to make of that,I was expecting an answer.


Liverpool Biennial is the largest as well as one of the most exciting contemporary visual arts events in the UK, and with 960,000 visits in 2008, it is one of the best attended in the world

The question mark represented me not being as gullible as you and not believing everything I'm told by the local media.I understand that these claims are often wrong but are designed to draw on the public's ignorance of such things.

Why is it everything your city does has to automatically be better than everywhere else just because it's in Manchester? That's such a strange way of looking at things.

On the contrary, why is it everything Manchester does has to be part of a non-existant BBC/ government conspiracy? Scouse forum members have been foaming at the mouth for months about Manchester's tram extension, but seemingly they have no problem whatsoever with similar projects happening in Edinburgh, London and Birmingham.

On the contrary, why is it everything Manchester does has to be part of a non-existant BBC/ government conspiracy? Scouse forum members have been foaming at the mouth for months about Manchester's tram extension, but seemingly they have no problem whatsoever with similar projects happening in Edinburgh, London and Birmingham.

I haven't so why tar everyone with the same brush? I can guarantee you the most people in Liverpool don't care one bit,including myself.Now that wasn't the reason I entered the thread,there was only one point I wanted answering by the man himself.

Don't worry, here comes the.......

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Nuclear_artillery_test.jpg

I'm sorry, did I miss something? And here's me thinking MIF had nothing to do with Awayo or Liverpool? Little did I realize or know it was impacting on him and the city, especially after the success of CoC.

I behalf of Manchester I would like to apologise for.......

I'm of out in the glorious sunshine we're having anyway,you lot could always debate the weather temperatures in our cities while I'm away.Think of all the fun with graphs you can have.

But we've got the Biennial which is the largest contemporary arts festival in the country (?) Why is it everything your city does has to automatically be better than everywhere else just because it's in Manchester? That's such a strange way of looking at things.

Why does it?

Who said it does?

Why do Liverpool forum members continually bash Manchester, regardless of the reason and topic?

Away, East, Sloyne, Poolcool, etc breath and live for the chance to bash Manchester.(on SSC)

Fortunately the likes of yourself, Yosh and a few others don't tend to get caught up in it. There are times when you do. (see above)

What's more telling is that no Mancunian forum members go out of their way to bash Liverpool on purpose. Take CoC for example. As far as I'm aware not one Mancunian forum member bashed Liverpool or the festival from the day Liverpool won it, until the day it finished. It was a roaring success. Enough said.

Yet MIF has been going for 2 days and the likes of Awayo are all over it like a rash. According to him it was thought up to........(fill in and lie)

Awayo has a problem. He thinks there's an on-going conspiracy against Liverpool via the (Manchester) Media. If there's anything positive about Manchester he see's it as a threat and a (vauge) comparison to Liverpool.

In reality and in the real word there isn't a conspiracy. Will somebody tell the..... Being blunt, nobody gives a f*** about Liverpool in Manchester. No doubt the same applies in Liverpool about Manchester, apart from........

As for Awayo's on-going rants about the BBC.(how many years?) It's been done to death fella. God knows where you were in the queue? Get over it FFS!

F*** me, this is a long post. Time for a cup of tea and a couple of organic shortbread figners.

Why does it?

Who said it does?

Why do Liverpool forum members continually bash Manchester, regardless of the reason and topic?

Away, East, Sloyne, Poolcool, etc breath and live for the chance to bash Manchester.(on SSC)

Fortunately the likes of yourself, Yosh and a few others don't tend to get caught up in it. There are times when you do. (see above)

What's more telling is that no Mancunian forum members go out of their way to bash Liverpool on purpose. Take CoC for example. As far as I'm aware not one Mancunian forum member bashed Liverpool or the festival from the day Liverpool won it, until the day it finished. It was a roaring success. Enough said.

Yet MIF has been going for 2 days and the likes of Awayo are all over it like a rash. According to him it was thought up to........(fill in and lie)

Awayo has a problem. He thinks there's an on-going conspiracy against Liverpool via the (Manchester) Media. If there's anything positive about Manchester, he see's it as a threat and a (vauge) comparison to Liverpool.

In reality and in the real word there isn't a conspiracy. Will somebody tell the..... Being blunt, nobiody gives a f*** about Liverpool in Manchester. No doubt the same applies in Liverpool about Manchester, apart from........

As for Awayo's on-going rants about the BBC.(how many years?) It's been done to death fella. God knows where you were in the queue? Get over it FFS!

F*** me, this is a long post. Time for a cup of tea and a couple of organic shortbread figners.

Exactly.

Sums them up perfectly.

Dishing it out like Victoria Wood on a school based sitcom.

When someone points out there blatant anti-Manchester agenda they come out with yet more tripe, including this morning, on the previous page, that Manchester Airport is only successful because Liverpool was held back.

Nothing to do with the exta 1m Mancs or the more central location then!

Outstanding to see and a joy for all students of the UK victim culture.

Manchester has a successful and well received festival and all pop the scouse mafia.

Lovely.

The difference is that good or bad the Manchester thing (launched in paranoid envy of Liverpool's ECoC - that's the Manchester way) is hyped. ECoC was instead attacked by the BBC and the Guardian until its huge success was impossible to deny. That's the difference. Manchester could hold the shitting into cups fest every year and the BBC and the Guardian would praise it. That's what they do and always have.


So Manchester is succesful because:

The Guardian makes it so.
The BBC makes it so.

Wouldn't mind but he attacks a paper for defending Manchester that fled Manchester. How does that work in the mind of Scouse Paranoid?

Must be a PhD in here for me, studying that last question alone.

Shocking! From an (ex) Manchester based newspaper.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2008/dec/11/liverpool-capital-culture

Bastards!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/oct/15/phil-redmond-european-culture-capital

PS. You're chatting s*** as usual Awayo. (I'm sure there's many more postive articles about Liverpool and the CoC from the Guardian and other newspapers floating about the interweb)

I rule.

Liverpool built the railways aroudn the "north west", financed by Liverpool money. It is the state that it now attempting to build Manchester into a hub and sideline Liverpool.



Geographically speaking, Manchester makes far more sense as a 'hub' than Liverpool.

Geographically speaking, Manchester makes far more sense as a 'hub' than Liverpool.

There will be Roman conspiracy, river diversion, plate tectonics reason why Manchester has benefited from this over Liverpool.

Awayo has the floor....

Even the Liverpool councillors recognise this and are lobbying for it :lol:

I rule.

In your bubble.

And to think that all I did was answer the question of why the Guardian was hyping the MIF. Because it is a sponsor: the blog post was advertorial.

Geographically speaking, Manchester makes far more sense as a 'hub' than Liverpool.

Quite right. Just as Didcot does over London.

Listen carefully and you'll hear Awayo going on about the BBC's move to Salford.

Speakers on.

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Geographically speaking, Manchester makes far more sense as a 'hub' than Liverpool.

Only for wools, bad wools. Bad, bad parochial wools.

Only for wools, bad wools. Bad, bad parochial wools.


:lol:

wharra lorra lorra laughs

Only for wools, bad wools. Bad, bad parochial wools.

:scouserd:

I remember the outcry. Boy, did it go on and on. :popcorn:

:lol:

What's up Yosh, have you been orderd to fall in line, or were your loyalties stretched to breaking point?

One day you'll be a (SSC) Man and do the right thing.

"Awayo, stop acting like a..............................

Why does it?

Who said it does?

It looks like the good long term bet for the arts in the Northwest has been won by Manchester?

The fly said that,I highlighted that comment further back,you must have missed it,by saying that he has totally dismissed the Biennial,if that's not meant to be a side swipe/put down I don't know what is.It was up to him to answer anyway,I made that clear further up the page,I didn't call for the cavalry.

The fly said that,I highlighted that comment further back,you must have missed it,by saying that he has totally dismissed the Biennial,if that's not meant to be a side swipe/put down I don't know what is.It was up to him to answer anyway,I made that clear further up the page,I didn't call for the cavalry.

Where did that come from then?

But we've got the Biennial which is the largest contemporary arts festival in the country (?) Why is it everything your city does has to automatically be better than everywhere else just because it's in Manchester?

Off the top of your head?

Shades of.....

Why not just say. Awayo, your posting shit again. Give it a rest. And that goes for you as well Fly.

Job done.

Yes sorted but Fly was wrong,I wasn't aware there was a contest to win.:)

:scouserd:

I remember the outcry. Boy, did it go on and on. :popcorn:

This is an arf thread jerb. We need more petty arfs to eliviate the nasties. The alternative is multiple pages of Fly.

All this over a meff

This is an arf thread jerb. We need more petty arfs to eliviate the nasties. The alternative is multiple pages of Fly.

I Toady.

There's nothing wrong with a few arfs! I've always got a couple tooked up my sleeve just in case. They always come in handy. Ssssh. :sly:

It's the constant bashing that's tiresome. Man up jrb!

Yes sorted but Fly was wrong,I wasn't aware there was a contest to win.:)

To the death. Choose a weapon. Pick a cock(waving). One shoots blanks though.

The Guardian is an official sponsor of the MIF, hence that ridiculous puff piece. The BBC hypes it every two years as well and for the same reason.

Here is the original post.

WTF have my subsequent comments got to do with anything than pointing out yet more scouse bile.

Way to go guys.

More Scouse Pravda.

Here is the original post.

WTF have my subsequent comments got to do with anything than pointing out yet more scouse bile.

Way to go guys.

More Scouse Pravda.

Never go back to a firework. It could go off in your face.

Never go back to a firework. It could go off in your face.

Very true indeed.

Anyway I think we have beaten the Scouse Mafia from cover and blasted them out of the skies around Manchester.

Next topic for the Scousers to `blame Manchester' for please!

Isn't the scouse mafia a drug cartel? You don't half come up with some odd insults.

Isn't the scouse mafia a drug cartel? You don't half come up with some odd insults.

Rarely to you Yoshef. I don't recall you bitching about Manchester like AwaywiththeFairies et al.

It's AwaywiththeFairieso, thanks.

It's AwaywiththeFairieso, thanks.

Whilst we are on a bashing thread is does not mean we cannot exchange pleasantries.

Perhaps not the nicest analogy but if this was Question Time then, I would be Cameron adn you would be Mr Millibean.

JBR would be Ken Clarke
Joshef stars as Ed Balls

Metrolink, when he reappears, would be a maverick, a Hamilton, Boris or Galloway?

Exactly.

Tiz the bashing thread after all.

Yosh, Paul, Toady, Albion(plastic Scouser), etc are the sane ones.

If they ^^ cross over, we have reached the end game.

Awayo and East know what they are doing, but they've not been sectioned yet.

Sloyne is............

http://www.rowthree.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/hanniballecter.jpg

but not unlikeable.

Banter is great. Bashing is......

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Just to show Manchester isn't without beautiful streets

St Anns churchyard
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3404/3434605491_cd16d61cc7.jpg

Library walk
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/214/456321555_371e2f79a8_o.jpg

Barton Arcade
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3550352035_4daff092c3.jpg

Isn't the scouse mafia a drug cartel? You don't half come up with some odd insults.Naah. It's a wheel-nickin' cartel!

:lol:

Cheee-aaaarrrrggggeeeeeee!

:horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse:Yeeehaaahhhh! That reminds me of Peterloo! :D

In addition Liverpool-Manchester is just one urban sprawl of c4-5m.You guys are Liverpool's inland industrial suburb, an ugly sister, so to speak...

SAAAF

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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=80879212#post80879212

It's shit like this that is bugging me about a lot of the Liverpool forumers. Many of them seem to think that Liverpool is the greatest, most famous city in the UK and is hard done by by the rest of us. Now I am sorry but to say that the world thinks Oxford and Cambridge are in London and that they are not as famous as Liverpool is quite frankly laughable.

Liverpool is famous in its own right but, more so than Oxford and Cambridge? No...

Liverpool is famous in its own right but, more so than Oxford and Cambridge? No...And yet, other UK cities, and corporations, use Liverpool to promote themselves, and sometimes, to the detriment of Liverpool, it's facilities and attractions. Just one example, there are many others; British Airways is known to offer, and advertise, flights from most of it's US gateways to Liverpool for various events. these events include the "Beatles Festival" (Matthew Street Fes,) the Grand National Steeplechase Race, Golf Championship etc. However, and upon reading the small print one discovers that these flights are via one or other London airports with connecting flights to Manchester's airport then overland (bus or train) to Liverpool. Not only is it misleading advertisement but I would venture that promiting a rival airport/city it is detrimental to Liverpool Airport and the city's hospitality and tourist offer..

I have offered just one example, I can show more, if you wish. Can you offer any examples of Oxford being used to promote any place other than Oxford?

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And yet, other UK cities, and corporations, use Liverpool to promote themselves, and sometimes, to the detriment of Liverpool, it's facilities and attractions. Just one example, there are many others; British Airways is known to offer flights from most of it's US gateways to Liverpool for various events. these events include the "Beatles Festival" (Matthew Street Fes,) the Grand National Steeplechase Race, Golf Championship etc. However, and upon reading the small print one discovers that these flights are via one or other London airports with connecting flights to Manchester's airport then overland (bus or train) to Liverpool. Not only is it misleading advertisement but I would venture that promiting a rival airport/city it is detrimental to Liverpool Airport and the city's hospitality and tourist offer..

I have offered just one example, I can show more, if you wish. Can you offer any examples of Oxford being used to promote any place other than Oxford?

Oh FFS!

the Grand National Steeplechase Race, Golf Championship(and the rest) :sleepy:


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And yet, other UK cities, and corporations, use Liverpool to promote themselves, and sometimes, to the detriment of Liverpool, it's facilities and attractions. Just one example, there are many others; British Airways is known to offer, and advertise, flights from most of it's US gateways to Liverpool for various events. these events include the "Beatles Festival" (Matthew Street Fes,) the Grand National Steeplechase Race, Golf Championship etc. However, and upon reading the small print one discovers that these flights are via one or other London airports with connecting flights to Manchester's airport then overland (bus or train) to Liverpool. Not only is it misleading advertisement but I would venture that promiting a rival airport/city it is detrimental to Liverpool Airport and the city's hospitality and tourist offer..

I have offered just one example, I can show more, if you wish. Can you offer any examples of Oxford being used to promote any place other than Oxford?

Will you ever admit you are Sloyne? I mean, it's not like we don't know or anything.

Will you ever admit you are Sloyne? I mean, it's not like we don't know or anything.Why is it that when you Limey's are confronted with FACT and your own posts are shown to be sour grapes and jealousy of another city, and in particular Liverpool, you try and obfuscate and change the subject? What does it matter who is posting as long as it refutes your totally stupid claims.

Methinks that Karl Pilkingtonism is not just a Manc phenomena but a national one. Karl, it would seem, also lives in Portsmouth.:lol:

Because anyone with half a brain cell can see that in EVERY post of yours, you make Liverpool to be some sort of 'The Streets are Paved with Gold' world beating metropolis which is hard done by by the rest of the UK (especially Manchester) where the entire population is made up with uneducated morons who bow down to the London Elite controllers and only Liverpool and the Mighty Scousers can save the world.

That is why.

Also, any true american would know not to call us Lymeys on our own forum, as it is a derogatory term.

Sloyne has no shame.

He bull shits with no concern with everyone knowing every one of his posts is just that.

God knows why he posts on here - it's not as even he thinks anyone takes his postings seriously.

Also, any true american would know not to call us Lymeys on our own forum, as it is a derogatory term.

Is he a 'true American'? I thought he was someone who loved Liverpool so much me moved half-way around the world.

I guess when you're not actually somewhere you can afford to get nostalgic about it. School was rubbish at the time, but I can look back at it now as a happy and carefree era...

Because anyone with half a brain cell can see that in EVERY post of yours, you make Liverpool to be some sort of 'The Streets are Paved with Gold' world beating metropolis which is hard done by by the rest of the UK (especially Manchester) where the entire population is made up with uneducated morons who bow down to the London Elite controllers and only Liverpool and the Mighty Scousers can save the world.

That is why.

Also, any true american would know not to call us Lymeys on our own forum, as it is a derogatory term.No, I don't do any of that. Take a look at all my posts, I reply in kind and, mostly, refute what idiots like yourself and some of the Manc children post in these forums. Go back into the archives and show were I have initiated any unprovoked attacks on any city, including Manchester. I will, most often correct stupid statements by people like yourself and of course you, childlike, will throw your soother out of your stroller in a fit of pique.

Sloyne - what about the posting from your 'friends' that went to Granada Studios tour last summer.

Was that you correcting other peoples posts :lol:

You are a bull shitting liar with green eyes, that is why no one take you seriously.

Here it is, my pals impression of Manchester:

Cold, sunless, damp, dull, drab, dirty and all this was in July; Uninteresting tourist attractions, like a soccer stadium, soap opera studio set, shopping mall (pronounced mal), almost empty and very boring military museum and an art gallery featuring a local artist whose work resembles a grade three childs efforts. The tourist guides would claim that everything, stadium, TV stage, Mall, gallery etc., were "world famous", but non of the Americans knew of any of them. A few Canadians had heard of the soap opera set and a few people from the Tampa Bay area had heard of the soccer team but no one had heard of the child-like artist.

Restaurants which served alcohol won't serve families accompanied by children below the British legal age for drinking even though those children would not be drinking alcohol. Restrooms (toilets) that stink as bad as those in Mexico. Unbelievably high prices (double US prices) for everything.

People would constantly point to a high-rise building and ask if it reminded them of America. He tried to think of a US city that mght resemble Manchester. The only US city he could think of was Gary which had about the same amount of "For Rent" (To Let.) signs across their windows and doors.

He said he was hoping the US team would get eliminated from the tournament early so as they could move on to someplace more interesting. No such luck, the US beat Canada in the final.

The above are just some of his comments. We spent a weekend listening to his bitching about Manchester.

Child like bull shitter sloyne who can only attack Manchester with no provocation.

Sloyne - no one takes you seriously in the slightest when you make posts like the one above - made for no reason other than to have a stupid, childlike attack on Manchester.

You a pathetic troll who loved Liverpool so much you moved 3,000miles away :lol:

No, I don't do any of that. Take a look at all my posts, I reply in kind and, mostly, refute what idiots like yourself and some of the Manc children post in these forums. Go back into the archives and show were I have initiated any unprovoked attacks on any city, including Manchester. I will, most often correct stupid statements by people like yourself and of course you, childlike, will throw your soother out of your stroller in a fit of pique.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

and if you want to see how 'unprovoked' the bull shit made up crap post from Sloyne was have a read of http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=158872&page=550 onwards.

That page is immediately prior to his out of the blue, made up, childlike attack on Manchester. :lol:

No, I don't do any of that. Take a look at all my posts, I reply in kind and, mostly, refute what idiots like yourself and some of the Manc children post in these forums. Go back into the archives and show were I have initiated any unprovoked attacks on any city, including Manchester. I will, most often correct stupid statements by people like yourself and of course you, childlike, will throw your soother out of your stroller in a fit of pique.

It's for real. As if we(SSC UK) didn't already know. He's f***ing mad as a......

Go back into the archives and show were I have initiated any unprovoked attacks on any city, including Manchester.

My reply to Tonko, above, was to correct his stupid statement that Liverpool was not as famous as Oxford. I correct stupid statements like; Detroit airport is a small regional airport when in fact DTW handles double the amount of pax than does MAN; Atlanta is a backwater; and people claiming to be the authority on all things American when in fact they have likely never been further west than Wigan. So no, let us not get caught up in replying to attacks by Karl Pilkington type attacks by Manc and Pompy children.:cheers:

I don't understand this, you know full well he's a troll yet insist on making the same boring replies each time? You're as tedious as he is.

*Tonkso

*Pompey

I don't understand this, you know full well he's a troll yet insist on making the same boring replies each time? You're as tedious as he is.

I'm a Troll? I do not mean to be. I try to offer a fair argument and look at the positives between all cities. I do however like to put right when people state that something is better or more famous than it is.

I don't understand this.It's simple really, you are doing it yourself. You are almost constantly pointing out that I am a troll and everyone who engages me is less than intelligent. And yet, you have, on a number of occasions, engaged me in discussion but later, when I bested you in an argument requested the Mods ban me. What's that about?:nuts:

My reply to Tonko, above, was to correct his stupid statement that Liverpool was not as famous as Oxford. I correct stupid statements like; Detroit airport is a small regional airport when in fact DTW handles double the amount of pax than does MAN; Atlanta is a backwater; and people claiming to be the authority on all things American when in fact they have likely never been further west than Wigan. So no, let us not get caught up in replying to attacks by Karl Pilkington type attacks by Manc and Pompy children.:cheers:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=158872&page=565

Post 11290

Atlanta in World terms is a back water and was put on the global map by the Olympics...it is a 2nd tier city,like Barcelona.

Sloyne you are a pathetic, childish liar.

Spouting shit since Dec 2nd 2010.

Christ, look what I have resorted to!

What a prick.

I'm a Troll? I do not mean to be. I try to offer a fair argument and look at the positives between all cities. I do however like to put right when people state that something is better or more famous than it is.And when someone points out that your statements are wrong you take a snit and start name calling. Refute my statements and offer, like I have done, facts to counter my statements. Instead you revert to name calling. Childish indeed.

Where have I name called?

Where have I name called?

I am also shocked that Albino called me a Troll, I thought he was one of the good ones.

And when someone points out that your statements are wrong you take a snit and start name calling. Refute my statements and offer, like I have done, facts to counter my statements. Instead you revert to name calling. Childish indeed.

Rubbish, everyone one of us has these examples.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=158872&page=565

Post 11299

You are a very ill and bitter man.

Take a hint. We have all repeatedly advised you to take your medication and go away.

You are a proven liar, further documented evidence above...where did I bring Manchester into a dicussion of the merits of a city needing/wanting to host the Olympics?

..you deranged nutter.

I thought this reply to your initial lies would suffice ^^

Still, months later you spout your lies.

Everything you say is made-up bullshit

I'm a Troll? I do not mean to be. I try to offer a fair argument and look at the positives between all cities. I do however like to put right when people state that something is better or more famous than it is.

More "famous" jesus.

What a prick.In that same post you elevated Sydney to "super city" status alongside New York, London, Paris, etc. You recently took a vacation in the Bradenton/Sarasota Manatee county area of Florida and decided that you would live there, if you could, at the drop of a hat. Again, what's that about?:nuts:

Well fuck this then, if I am seen as a Troll, I cannot be bothered with posting here.

Where have I name called?

I am also shocked that Albino called me a Troll, I thought he was one of the good ones.I believe it was I who was being called a troll.

Sloyne's special keyboard/eyesight combo:

"The Greatest Pile of Shit Ever" quoteth I.

Becomes: "The Greatest Ever" in Sloyne's mind.

Nurse!

That is because you are sloyney - funny how you are incapable of replying to the 'Granada Studios' post isn't it :lol:

Childlike troll who moved 3,000miles to get away from Liverpool :lol:

In that same post you elevated Sydney to "super city" status alongside New York, London, Paris, etc. You recently took a vacation in the Bradenton/Sarasota Manatee county area of Florida and decided that you would live there, if you could, at the drop of a hat. Again, what's that about?:nuts:

WTF?

So, you admit Atlanta was your your special keyboard skills?

Perhaps, Sydney is also. Would you like to misquote anywhere else?

Weird beyond belief.

That is because you are sloyney - funny how you are incapable of replying to the 'Granada Studios' post isn't it :lol:

Childlike troll who moved 3,000miles to get away from Liverpool :lol:

And your replying too every post he makes.

Where have I name called?

I am also shocked that Albino called me a Troll, I thought he was one of the good ones.



The post about Liverpool & Oxford was a troll :yes:

Well fuck this then, if I am seen as a Troll, I cannot be bothered with posting here.

You? A troll? Nope. Doubt anyone sees you as that.

your or you are?

In that same post you elevated Sydney to "super city" status alongside New York, London, Paris, etc. You recently took a vacation in the Bradenton/Sarasota Manatee county area of Florida and decided that you would live there, if you could, at the drop of a hat. Again, what's that about?:nuts:

Here it is for you, you pathetic nut job:

Sydney, London, LA, New York, Paris, Moscow need the Olympics like a hole in the head. They have fame, tourism, prestige, facilities coming out of their ears.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=158872&page=565 Post 11290


You really are having a very poor afternoon.

The post about Liverpool & Oxford was a troll :yes:

Right, so saying Oxford is more well known that Liverpool is trolling, but saying Livepool is more well know than other places isn't?

Fuck me, the double standards amongst the scousers on here is hillarious.

I'm a Troll? I do not mean to be. I try to offer a fair argument and look at the positives between all cities. I do however like to put right when people state that something is better or more famous than it is.

No, euxtex.

funny how you are incapable of replying to the 'Granada Studios' post isn't it :lol:Not really, anyone other than a Manc clone of Karl Pilkington would have figured it out by now. It was not my experience, it was the experience of an aquaintance who had travelled to Manchester (the sports capital, second city and worlds greatest city) for a Lacrosse tournament. He related his experience and impressions of Manchester. I cannot, seeing as I was not present, vouch for the veracity of his statements and, will not.

Right, so saying Oxford is more well known that Liverpool is trolling, but saying Livepool is more well know than other places isn't?

Fuck me, the double standards amongst the scousers on here is hillarious.


^^ that's another troll. Why? because you missed off the part that went...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=80879212#post80879212

It's shit like this that is bugging me about a lot of the Liverpool forumers..


:yes:


This is a city bashing thread, not a people bashing thread.

It's simple really, you are doing it yourself. You are almost constantly pointing out that I am a troll and everyone who engages me is less than intelligent. And yet, you have, on a number of occasions, engaged me in discussion but later, when I bested you in an argument requested the Mods ban me. What's that about?:nuts:

You have never bested me in an argument, in fact you resort to calling me 'sectarian and racist' before realising you were completely recoiling and apologising. You're the most tedious poster on the site, nothing interesting or funny to say, only the TheFly can come close in terms of drivel per post ratio. I don't know whether you are a previously banned poster but if you are then you should be banned again because you contribute nothing, and whilst being a massive troll you don't even have the ability to be funny with it.

I didn't call tonkso a troll, fwiw.

Not really, anyone other than a Manc clone of Karl Pilkington would have figured it out by now. It was not my experience, it was the experience of an aquaintance who had travelled to Manchester (the sports capital, second city and worlds greatest city) for a Lacrosse tournament. He related his experience and impressions of Manchester. I cannot, seeing as I was not present, vouch for the veracity of his statements and, will not.

Arf - so your imaginary friend visited Granda Studios and we are supposed to believe you.

Course you aren't childlike sloyne.

Dunno why people dont just throw Sloyne on ignore. I don't think he's contributed to this section since he started drinking his own urine again, a taste for which he acquired in the 1870s, when cast adrift after boring the shit out of his shipmates.

I didn't call tonkso a troll, fwiw.


Aye, but he's still shit stirring.

You have never bested me in an argument, in fact you resort to calling me 'sectarian and racist' before realising you were completely recoiling and apologising.Isn't that what intelligent, civilized people do when they are wrong? Perhaps you don't have the social skills and would not, on some twisted logic, apologize for a mistake. If so we are definitely in a different class. And "recoil" what a strange term to use. Apologizng when wrong? A matter of class I guess.

nothing interesting or funny to say, only the TheFly can come close in terms of drivel per post ratio. .

Pick em out for me, just like Sloyney did.

Who rattled your cage?

Don't recall posting lies, if I did, I have always corrected a statement when pointed out to me.

The rest would be opinions, equally valid as yours.

My reply to Tonko, above, was to correct his stupid statement that Liverpool was not as famous as Oxford. I correct stupid statements like; Detroit airport is a small regional airport when in fact DTW handles double the amount of pax than does MAN; Atlanta is a backwater; and people claiming to be the authority on all things American when in fact they have likely never been further west than Wigan. So no, let us not get caught up in replying to attacks by Karl Pilkington type attacks by Manc and Pompy children.:cheers:

Yet you then have the urge and 'need' to finish your post of like this.(it isn't the first time)

Karl Pilkington type attacks by Manc and Pompy children

Non of us have an issue with you correcting posts, if you see fit, but what's with the constant name calling, etc? Yawn.

We get your Karl Pilkington generalization of Mancunians as well. How many more times. "This joke isn't funny anymore.........

PS. No seriously. Grow up Sloyne. How old are you? Do yourself a favour. We all like a bit of banter and bashing, but you just don't know when to stop. Stop.(if you can?)

I am also shocked that Albino called me a Troll, I thought he was one of the good ones.

The forumer who regularly calls for ethnic cleansing for anyone happening to live in Leeds? You're as blinkered as he is if you think he's 'good' in any way!

Dunno why people dont just throw Sloyne on ignore. I don't think he's contributed to this section since he started drinking his own urine again, a taste for which he acquired in the 1870s, when cast adrift after boring the shit out of his shipmates.

Yosh!

You are absolutely spot on. Bravo fella. (jrb you sucker)

If everyone to a man either stuck him on ignore or ignored him, he'd end up.....

Nobody likes a sad Clown.

Count me in. Ignore.

"This joke isn't funny anymore.........You're getting warm, It's not meant to be.:lol:

I didn't call tonkso a troll, fwiw.

Oh sorry, I got the wrong end of the stick there, didn't realise that was aimed at Euxtex.

:cheers:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=656694

^^

It's funny because everyone hates Sloyne.

Why hasn't he been banned yet?

Seriously though, Scousers out there, how sick are you of this titwank representing your city?

He's just one of many forumers who contribute on their home forum, but troll, overreact or drop unwanted pearls of wisdom elsewhere. To be fair, Tonkso should be in the naughty corner with him (temporarily) for letting crazy John Burns mess with his mind.


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Yosh!

You are absolutely spot on.

:bowtie:

3 for Brum, 1 for t'other side of Mersey and more in Ludlow (2) than Manchester and Leeds combined lol!

ONE-MICHELIN-STAR RESTAURANTS IN ENGLAND 2011

Curlew - Bodiam, East Sussex (New 2011)
Pony & Trap - Chew Magna, Bath & North East Somerset (New 2011)
Adam Simmonds at Danesfield House - Marlow, Buckinghamshire (New 2011)
The Black Rat - Winchester, Hampshire (New 2011)
Paris House - Woburn, Bedfordshire (New 2011)

The Samling – Ambleside, Cumbria
The Pipe Glass & Inn – Beverley/ South Dalton, East Riding of Yorkshire
The Royal Oak – Bray-On-Thames, Windsor & Maidenhead
Sienna – Dorchester, Dorset
Michael Wignall at The Latymer, Bagshot, Surrey
Fischer’s at Baslow Hall, Baslow, Derbyshire
The Park (at Lucknam Park), Bath/Colerne, Somerset
The Terrace (at Montagu Arms), Beaulieu, Hampshire
The West House, Biddenden, Kent
Fraiche, Birkenhead, Mersey
Simpsons, Birmingham
Purnell’s, Birmingham
Turners, Birmingham
Northcote, Lancashire
Morston Hall, Norfolk
The Burlington (at The DevonshireArms Country House), Bolton Abbey, North Yorkshire
Lords of the Manor, Bourton-on-the-Water/Upper Slaughter, Gloucestershire
Casamia, Bristol
Atlantic, Jersey, Channel Islands
Bohemia, Jersey, Channel Islands
Manor House hoteland Golf Club, Castle Combe, Wiltshire
Simon Radley at The Chester Grosvenor, Chester, Cheshire

Apicius, Cranbook, Kent
Ockenden Manor, Cuckfield, West Sussex
36 on the Quay, Emsworth, Hampshire
Read’s, Faversham, Kent
L’Enclume, Cartmel, Cumbria
The Neptune, Hunstanton, Norfolk
Box Tree, Ilkley, West Yorkshire
The Stagg Inn, Kington/Titley, Hereford
La Bécasse, Ludlow, Shropshire
Mr Underhill’s at Dinham Weir, Ludlow, Shropshire
The Harrow at Little Bedwyn, Marlborough, Wiltshire

The Hand & Flowers, Marlow, Buckinghamshire
The Nut Tree, Murcott, Oxon
Restaurant Sat Bains, Nottingham
Hambleton Hall, Hambleton, Rutland
The Yorke Arms, Pateley Bridge, North Yorkshire
JSW, Petersfield, Hampshire
L’Ortolan, Reading, Berkshire
Drakes, Ripley, Surrey
The Dining Room ( at Mallory Court), Royal Leamington Spa, Warwickshire
Old Vicarage, Sheffield, South Yorkshire
The Masons Arms, Knowstone, Devon
The Olive Branch and Beech House, Clipsham, Lincolnshire
The Elephant , Torquay, Devon
Sharrow Bay Country House, Ullswater, Cumbria
Auberge du Lac, Welwyn Garden City, Herts
The Sportsman, Seasalter, Kent
The Hambrough, Isle of Wight

5 North St, Winchcombe, Gloucestershire
Holbeck Ghyll, Windermere, Cumbria

So there is a town called Windermere after alll.

3 for Brum, 1 for t'other side of Mersey and more in Ludlow (2) than Manchester and Leeds combined lol!

ONE-MICHELIN-STAR RESTAURANTS IN ENGLAND 2011

Curlew - Bodiam, East Sussex (New 2011)
Pony & Trap - Chew Magna, Bath & North East Somerset (New 2011)
Adam Simmonds at Danesfield House - Marlow, Buckinghamshire (New 2011)
The Black Rat - Winchester, Hampshire (New 2011)
Paris House - Woburn, Bedfordshire (New 2011)

The Samling – Ambleside, Cumbria
The Pipe Glass & Inn – Beverley/ South Dalton, East Riding of Yorkshire
The Royal Oak – Bray-On-Thames, Windsor & Maidenhead
Sienna – Dorchester, Dorset
Michael Wignall at The Latymer, Bagshot, Surrey
Fischer’s at Baslow Hall, Baslow, Derbyshire
The Park (at Lucknam Park), Bath/Colerne, Somerset
The Terrace (at Montagu Arms), Beaulieu, Hampshire
The West House, Biddenden, Kent
Fraiche, Birkenhead, Mersey
Simpsons, Birmingham
Purnell’s, Birmingham
Turners, Birmingham
Northcote, Lancashire
Morston Hall, Norfolk
The Burlington (at The DevonshireArms Country House), Bolton Abbey, North Yorkshire
Lords of the Manor, Bourton-on-the-Water/Upper Slaughter, Gloucestershire
Casamia, Bristol
Atlantic, Jersey, Channel Islands
Bohemia, Jersey, Channel Islands
Manor House hoteland Golf Club, Castle Combe, Wiltshire
Simon Radley at The Chester Grosvenor, Chester, Cheshire

Apicius, Cranbook, Kent
Ockenden Manor, Cuckfield, West Sussex
36 on the Quay, Emsworth, Hampshire
Read’s, Faversham, Kent
L’Enclume, Cartmel, Cumbria
The Neptune, Hunstanton, Norfolk
Box Tree, Ilkley, West Yorkshire
The Stagg Inn, Kington/Titley, Hereford
La Bécasse, Ludlow, Shropshire
Mr Underhill’s at Dinham Weir, Ludlow, Shropshire
The Harrow at Little Bedwyn, Marlborough, Wiltshire

The Hand & Flowers, Marlow, Buckinghamshire
The Nut Tree, Murcott, Oxon
Restaurant Sat Bains, Nottingham
Hambleton Hall, Hambleton, Rutland
The Yorke Arms, Pateley Bridge, North Yorkshire
JSW, Petersfield, Hampshire
L’Ortolan, Reading, Berkshire
Drakes, Ripley, Surrey
The Dining Room ( at Mallory Court), Royal Leamington Spa, Warwickshire
Old Vicarage, Sheffield, South Yorkshire
The Masons Arms, Knowstone, Devon
The Olive Branch and Beech House, Clipsham, Lincolnshire
The Elephant , Torquay, Devon
Sharrow Bay Country House, Ullswater, Cumbria
Auberge du Lac, Welwyn Garden City, Herts
The Sportsman, Seasalter, Kent
The Hambrough, Isle of Wight

5 North St, Winchcombe, Gloucestershire
Holbeck Ghyll, Windermere, Cumbria

The diversity of establishments goes to show geography has little to do with it. Only London has any statistical basis.

Chester, Cumbria, North Yorkshire, Isle Of White, Devon. Lincolnshire....the award seems it is based on merit.

Maybe Michelin do not appreciate gravy and mushy peas?