Arf.

Repeat after me.

Manchester has 3 times a many rooms occupied per night than Liverpool.

Means nothing to you obviously :lol:


It does, but that's a snapshot of a dynamic, when the report was produced. Well done Manchester.

However, as I said, you made a statement that I thought a tad misleading, and I'm just clarifying that you might have been shooting off out of your hoop wrong.

:yes:

I wouldn't take him too seriously, he's a supposedly married man who spends every waking minute on this website, instantly replying to anyone who says Manchester isn't the biggest, bestest thing ever. He also claims to have everyone on ignore despite the fact it's very easy to see who is ignoring you because the option to send a PM doesn't come up.

LNGCats is a married man? i really find that hard to believe personally, he seem to be constantly surveillancing this forum 24hrs a day... i also bet hes unemployed

I can imagen him having some type of alarm system set up on his pc which triggers an alarm to wake him up when Manchester getting belittled

Really?

I was playing down the difference until I found the actual report (I didn't expect to find the report).

Tell me, is the difference in office take up also a point in time and not representative?

Or would you expect places with three times the office space to have three times the businessmen in hotels?

Deeleted h

It does, but that's a snapshot of a dynamic, when the report was produced. Well done Manchester.

However, as I said, you made a statement that I thought a tad misleading, and I'm just clarifying that you might have been shooting off out of your hoop wrong.

:yes:

Slightly off topic - honest opinions welcome...

Im going to Liverpool in 3 weeks for a weekend.....group of us ( 3 birthdays same months etc ).... apparently the front is all done up really nice ( hv seen pics on here also ) , I actually said to the group why not Leeds or Manchester and they said they prefered Liverpool ( they have been to all of them ) ???....I cant comment as have only been to manchester ( Which I though was good )....so have no idea what Liverpool will be like myself....

Ironically have friends from Belgium choosing to have a weekend in Brum in 2 weeks....not sure what they will think lol !!

Comments welcome...along with advise on where to visit etc...

"Scousers are sluts"

So I've heard.

Might explain it

:)

"Scousers are sluts"

So I've heard.

Might explain it

:)



' Honest opinions welcome'...:ohno:...Tut tut...

Dont no where your from but you obviosuly dont like Liverpool and are perhaps a weeny bit imature !!

Anyway anyone with any decent comments or advise on my visit.....let me know - ta

lol it was jks.....

Anyway your misguided if you believe the City V City thread is an appropriate place for your question.

How about the Liverpool forum?

exactly

Think you'll find actually that London has some pretty big football teams too, and a Hard Rock Cafe, and a pretty decent restaurant scene.

Really?

I was playing down the difference until I found the actual report (I didn't expect to find the report).

Tell me, is the difference in office take up also a point in time and not representative?

Or would you expect places with three times the office space to have three times the businessmen in hotels?




"can I book 14,000 sq ft of Grade A office space for the night, please?"

Think you'll find actually that London has some pretty big football teams too, and a Hard Rock Cafe, and a pretty decent restaurant scene.

true true

London, Tokyo, Paris, New York all happen to have D&D restaurants as well/

"can I book 14,000 sq ft of Grade A office space for the night, please?"

So, no relation between amount of office workers in a city and the number of hotel rooms used to service those office workers?

Ok.

Do the companies in Liverpool not have staff from other parts of the country visiting the offices needing somewhere to sleep for the night?

Are there really no businessmen in Liverpool hotels :lol:

Arf.

Repeat after me.

Manchester has 3 times a many rooms occupied per night than Liverpool.

Means nothing to you obviously :lol:It is posts like this one what makes me cringe. Have you ever lived in any other place but were you were born and raised? Try living in leeds, liverpool, brum or any other city for awhile. it might open your eyes.

It is posts like this one what makes me cringe. Have you ever lived in any other place but were you were born and raised? Try living in leeds, liverpool, brum or any other city for awhile. it might open your eyes.

He's a precious petal, whilst consistently stating he doesn't think anywhere is better than another he gets in a whole lot of bother because cities apart from his own have the audacity to want more train services or whatever.

Bald man and comb come to mind.

So, no relation between amount of office workers in a city and the number of hotel rooms used to service those office workers?

Ok.

Do the companies in Liverpool not have staff from other parts of the country visiting the offices needing somewhere to sleep for the night?

Are there really no businessmen in Liverpool hotels :lol:


There are also three times as many prostitutes operating in Manchester, so you could probably make a similar correlation there.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/12/article-1250440-0841EE8D000005DC-237_468x286.jpg

A visiting businessman booking into a hotel in Manchester

It is posts like this one what makes me cringe. Have you ever lived in any other place but were you were born and raised? Try living in leeds, liverpool, brum or any other city for awhile. it might open your eyes.

Yes, 3 countries and 3 cities in the UK.

You miss the point entirely.

I was highlighting that I was talking about number of occupied rooms and not total rooms, something yoshef was struggling with despite having told him many times bedroom 2:58 onwards.

I'll repeat, Manchester is not better than anywhere. It is different.

I expect you will join in and highlight this fact on the Liverpool forum this autumn when the HS2 decision is announced.

Or maybe not.

There are also three times as many prostitutes operating in Manchester, so you could probably make a similar correlation there.

I would guess there probably are.

Another example of how the cities are different and have very different needs, no?

:yawn:

Your problem is you are presuming I am saying somewhere is better than elsewhere.

I am not.

I am pointing out differences.

Differences that the media, government and population recognise and as such treat them differently, something that is poorly understood by many on the Liverpool forum.

more uglies, more brass?

I would guess there probably are.

Another example of how the cities are different and have very different needs, no?

I'm sure you would :lol:

Yep, more uglies, more brass.

No doubt.

More prostitutes, more people in poverty, more crime, more demand for HS2.

Just different.

HS2? Nice try

http://bulmerandlumb.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/WOOLMARK-GOLD-MASTER-LOGO.png

HS2? Nice try



Just different dipper.

In your world they no doubt have identical demand for HS2 :lol:

Just different dipper.

In your world they no doubt have identical demand for HS2 :lol:


That doesn't make sense. You're getting less coherent as the night goes on. :yes:

RE - HS2

If Liverpool and Manchester were the other way round in terms of Geography surely it would pass through Liverpool and bypass Manc........

Manchester is the obvious route North to Scotland...must admit though im suprised Liverpool wont get a spur or will it ?

RE - HS2

If Liverpool and Manchester were the other way round in terms of Geography surely it would pass through Liverpool and bypass Manc........

Manchester is the obvious route North to Scotland...must admit though im suprised Liverpool wont get a spur or will it ?


HS2? Doubt we'll see that. I get the distinct impression that there is still the odd Sir Humphrey in Whitehall that is trying to "manage" Liverpool's "decline".

true true

London, Tokyo, Paris, New York all happen to have D&D restaurants as well/

Stop it.

It's getting annoying.

Stop it.

It's getting annoying.

Agreed, stop embarrassing Leeds.

Think you'll find actually that London has some pretty big football teams too, and a Hard Rock Cafe, and a pretty decent restaurant scene.

LONDON is a different planet Voldy, it can support anything you throw at it, Damn the place, LOL

It is posts like this one what makes me cringe. Have you ever lived in any other place but were you were born and raised? Try living in leeds, liverpool, brum or any other city for awhile. it might open your eyes.

I take it all with a pinch of salt, its what makes Manchester what it is i suppose.

That Manchester Swagger, LOL

They do seem to actually really LOVE there city, which i think is really cute, sometime though to the extreme where it is actually LOVE LOVE, god help there girlfriends and Boyfriends, he he he

Or their pet's.....don't remember that Swagger when that ridiculous Olympic bid gave them a reality check though..
shit,forgot the smiley again!

Most people on here are proud of their city, to the point of idiocy.

I take it all with a pinch of salt, its what makes Manchester what it is i suppose.

That Manchester Swagger, LOL

They do seem to actually really LOVE there city, which i think is really cute, sometime though to the extreme where it is actually LOVE LOVE, god help there girlfriends and Boyfriends, he he he

:|

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/customavatars/avatar101978_1.gif

Or their pet's.....don't remember that Swagger when that ridiculous Olympic bid gave them a reality check though..
shit,forgot the smiley again!

Yeah!

Thankfully those two 'ridiculous' Olympic Games bids led to a successful Commnwealth Games bid, which in turn led to an Athletics stadium and numerous other sporting facilities, which in turn led to Sports City, which in turn led the National Cycling Centre(home of British Cycling), which in turn led to National Indoor BMX centre, etc.

Thankfully those two 'ridiculous' Olympic Games bids led to Manchester City Football club moving and a 48,000 seater football stadium, which will lead to one of the best, if not the best football training complex in the world, which will also lead to the Etihad Campus and a leisure destination of International significance.

I forget to mention.........

The proposed Openshaw West Football Facilities;
· A proposed new Sixth Form Institute;
· A proposed Institute of Sports Science and Sports Medicine;
· A proposed New Sports National Governing Body Office Base – “The
Regional Sports Hub”;
· The proposed New Swimming Pool and Leisure Hub on Grey Mare
Lane, Beswick;
· The Manchester Velopark; and
· The Belle Vue Sports Village.

Thankfully those two 'ridiculous' Olympic Games bids led to a city wide Metrolink extension.(currently under construction)

Thankfully those two 'ridiculous' Olympic Games bids and the knowledge gained from them led to numerous other successful bids.(Metrolink extension, Super Casino, National Football Museum, Enterprize Zone/Airport City, Manchester City Region, etc, etc)

Some of the failed Olympic bids legacy.

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Thankfully you haven't got a f***ing clue.

^^ I thought that was all down to having a Hard Rock Cafe.

:shifty:

Or their pet's.....don't remember that Swagger when that ridiculous Olympic bid gave them a reality check though..
shit,forgot the smiley again!

The failed Olympic bid that resulted in europes largest indoor area, the fastest indoor cycling track in the world, the designs for the present day ethiad stadium and gave the city the basis for the Commonwealth Games bid. Result from that was the remainder of the cities sports facilities. Yeah was a ridiculous bid wasn't it!!!:banana:

Good post jrb.

Maybe we need Leeds to bid for the Olympics, to give 10123 a "reality check"? :lol:

I'll repeat, Manchester is not better than anywhere. It is different.

I expect you will join in and highlight this fact on the Liverpool forum this autumn when the HS2 decision is announced.

Or maybe not.Different because we have a HRC or a KFC or some other chain restaurant from America?

Your expectations are shite like your posts and an embarrassment to most inteligent adult Mancs. Get a life or grow up, whichever you can manage.

Careful Weaste, he might put you on ignore because you've expressed a different opinion to his :lol:

Different because we have a HRC or a KFC or some other chain restaurant from America?

Your expectations are shite like your posts and an embarrassment to most inteligent adult Mancs. Get a life or grow up, whichever you can manage.

:applause:

:|

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/customavatars/avatar101978_1.gif

:lol:

Good post jrb.

Maybe we need Leeds to bid for the Olympics, to give 10123 a "reality check"? :lol:

Exactly why the world number one super power is training in Leeds for the Olympics.
Chinese anyone?

^^
Birmingham is hosting the American track and field teams and Jamaican teams for the olympics;)

Chinese anyone?

OOoo, yes please, I'll have Kung Po Chicken

LNGCats is a married man? i really find that hard to believe personally, he seem to be constantly surveillancing this forum 24hrs a day... i also bet hes unemployed

I can imagen him having some type of alarm system set up on his pc which triggers an alarm to wake him up when Manchester getting belittled

Apparently he works in a very important role for some form of blue chip bank/financial insitution that lets him spend most of his working day on a forum as opposed to doing work. I'm jealous! :)

Apparently he works in a very important role for some form of blue chip bank/financial insitution that lets him spend most of his working day on a forum as opposed to doing work. I'm jealous! :)

The dole then.

It's all starting here in Mankychester.

I hope Euxtex is at home watching the grey, bleak skies above Manchester as one tenth of the world watches! ;)

Voldy,the Grand National gets that every year,you're making it too easy for him.

hallelujah!

Sky also recorded their highest ever viewing figures for a PL match. 4.2 million.

Man Utd/Man City telecast sets records in US

Gabriel Miramar-Garcia ©RapidTVNews | 03-05-2012

Monday’s 'Manchester Derby' Premier League soccer showdown between Manchester City and Manchester United drew an unprecedented 1.033 million average viewership (832,000 television homes) in the US, making it the most-watched Premiership telecast on US cable TV.

The match, a deserved 1-0 home win for Manchester City, far surpassed the previous high, an ESPN2 telecast of Arsenal vs Chelsea, seen by an average of 610,000 viewers on Monday 27 December 2010, according to Nielsen.

The story was the same on ESPN Deportes, the Spanish-language sports network which began featuring EPL matches in August 2010. The match earned a 4.0 Hispanic coverage rating, representing 205,000 Hispanic households (273,000 Hispanic viewers). The previous high on ESPN Deportes delivered 127,000 households, (183,000 Hispanic viewers) for Blackburn vs Man United on 2 April 2012.

On ESPN3 and WatchESPN, an average-minute audience of nearly 87,200 people watched the Manchester Derby via computers, smartphones, tablets and Xbox, and logging a total of 13.1 million minutes across platforms.

Sky also recorded their highest ever viewing figures for a PL match. 4.2 million.Sky is not in America so why post their figures? It is this type of post which gives us a bad name as number maipulators. I read that in America the match was watched by 1.03 million veiwers. when you consider there are 330 million official residents in America not to mention about 60 million illegals it puts everything into persective.:ohno: I have only been to America 5 times, Orlando+2, New York+2, Washington+1 not many times I know but I only noticed football on the tele in Orlando. I saw lots of EPL strips in Orlando but they were always English people like me on holiday. Less than a 0.1% of anything is not imho any sort of acheivement. Also shitty won that game.>(

Sky is not in America so why post their figures? It is this type of post which gives us a bad name as number maipulators. I read that in America the match was watched by 1.03 million veiwers. when you consider there are 330 million official residents in America not to mention about 60 million illegals it puts everything into persective.:ohno: I have only been to America 5 times, Orlando+2, New York+2, Washington+1 not many times I know but I only noticed football on the tele in Orlando. I saw lots of EPL strips in Orlando but they were always English people like me on holiday. Less than a 0.1% of anything is not imho any sort of acheivement. Also shitty won that game.>(

Oh stop being a drama Queen. What's with the tantrum?

Sky. You don't say. That was my choice to include their figures in the post. Why the hissy fit?

And finally.

Also shitty won that game

Dear God.

You probably are? Weaste, Salford.

:bowtie:

Museum of Liverpool bosses celebrate one million visitors in nine months

THE Museum of Liverpool has broken the one million visitor mark.

The Mann Island venue, the largest newly-built national museum in Britain for more than a century, was forecast to attract 750,000 people in its first year.

But delighted National Museum Liverpool bosses today revealed that nine months after it opened it had already raced past that target.

NML director David Fleming said: “The response has been tremendous, not only from Merseysiders but from visitors to the city from all over the globe.

“The people who live in and around Liverpool have always known it is a very special city, and now the Museum of Liverpool is the must-visit place to discover and celebrate the city’s history and culture.

You probably are? Weaste, Salford.Not Manc you say? Like telling someone from Bootle (to their face) hes not a scouse. Go on I dare you!

Warning: weastebeast1 is quite probably another avatar of sloyne/eutex.

:bowtie:

bleeding heck, that's good going.

Warning: weastebeast1 is quite probably another avatar of sloyne/eutex.how come every one you disagree with or disagrees with you must be sloyne?:nuts:

Yep. Definitely eutex.

About a week ago he was telling me about an employee of his who was from Weaste, who hated Manchester. He was also a United fan. Must've given him the idea for more trolling. Is there nothing better you can do on your boat you sad old sack of shit?

Yep. Definitely eutex.

About a week ago he was telling me about an employee of his who was from Weaste, who hated Manchester. He was also a United fan. Must've given him the idea for more trolling. Is there nothing better you can do on your boat you sad old sack of shit?

Exactly what I thought.

'Shitty' gave it away.

Yep. Definitely eutex.

About a week ago he was telling me about an employee of his who was from Weaste, who hated Manchester. He was also a United fan. Must've given him the idea for more trolling. Is there nothing better you can do on your boat you sad old sack of shit?
I doubt that sloyne/euxtex has ever had an 'employee'.

But yeah, 'weastebeast' displays all the traits of sloyne, and if it looks like a sloyne, walks like a sloyne, talks like a sloyne.....it's usually a...*

*In this case: a cunt.

I don't think that's Sloyne tbf.

Me neither...

What "titles" does your city hold?

On the world stage, Manchester has:-

- The world's first soap
- The world's most famous pub (the Rover's)
- The world's second busiest arena
- World's largest TGI Fridays (come June)
- World's richest football team
- Arguably the world's most popular football team
- World's first passenger railway (shared with Liverpool)
- Victoria station apparently was once home to the world's longest platform
- World's first industrial suburb
- World's first canal

*I may have missed some off*

What "titles" does your city hold?

On the world stage, Manchester has:-

- World's richest football team

- Arguably the world's most popular football team

- World's first passenger railway (shared with Liverpool)

- World's first canal

*I may have missed some off*Don't the Arabs own the "worlds richest football team"?

Doesnt Glasgow Celtic have the worlds most registered supporters?

You can't be first if you share a title with someone else.:nuts:

I think Venice would give you an argument there.

Doesnt Glasgow Celtic have the worlds most registered supporters?

According to a survey conducted last year of 1000 football in 34 countries (34k sample), the estimate was there are 354m Manchester United fans around the world. Celtic were not in the top 15!!


I think Venice would give you an argument there.

He means the worlds first modern engineered canal. You know full well he meant that!!

Manchester, well, Salford, oh, and Trafford - The Worlds ONLY swing aqueduct which takes a working waterway over another working waterway. (Barton)

- World's first canal

*sigh* Why did you do have to do that? @Eutex I think ancient mesopotamia might have something to say about that also.

He means the worlds first modern engineered canal. You know full well he meant that!!Yes I know but if that's the case and he is still sticking by his embarrassing claim then tell him and you to visit this site: http://english.people.com.cn/90001/98649/7349159.htmlAccording to a survey conducted last year of 1000 football in 34 countries (34k sample), the estimate was there are 354m Manchester United fans around the world. Celtic were not in the top 15!!!!Well Glasgow Celtic have more REGISTERED supporters worldwide than any other football club in the world. NOT PEOPLE WHO WEAR A SHIRT (usually a cheap copy) AND CALL THEMSELVES SUPPORTERS OF WHOEVER IS TOP OF THE LEAGUE AT THE TIME.

:puke:

MEN.

Manchester has been named the world's 'Best Sports City'. A panel of sports industry experts put the city on top in the less than one million population category of this year's SportsBusiness awards.

They compiled rankings taking into consideration the number of events staged each year, major events won between 2008 and 2016, numbers of federations hosted and the calibre of events currently being bid for.

Facilities, venues, transport, accommodation, security, legacy and public sports interest were also taken into account.

It was also singled out as the destination that generated the ‘Best Legacy’ from its sports events by the global sports body.

New York picked up the same title for cities with a population of six million or above, whilst Melbourne and Copenhagen came out top in the three to six million and one to three million respectively.

In the overall global ranking, regardless of population size, Manchester took fifth place behind London, Melbourne, Sydney and New York. It was followed by Singapore, Berlin,Copenhagen, Glasgow and Paris.

Andrew Stokes, chief executive of Marketing Manchester, hailed the award.

He said: "Sport is an incredibly important part of ‘brand Manchester’. Our ability to stage some of the world’s biggest sports events and the passion with which Mancunians embrace visiting fixtures have brought this title home. Recognition for the city’s ability to create a lasting legacy from events such as the Commonwealth Games is particularly welcome.

"The gripping climax of the Premier League - with two Manchester teams battling it out for first and second place - was watched by an estimated global audience of 665m people and is just the latest example of how sport brings with it the international spotlight."

Sir Richard Leese, leader of Manchester City Council, said: "This is yet further confirmation that Manchester as a major destination that is more than able to hold its own on the world sporting stage.

Before, during and since 2002's Commonwealth Games, the city has been home to much of the country’s best sports infrastructure used for world-class competition to attract the world’s top sportsmen and women.

"The city may be home to the country’s top two football clubs but there is much, much more to sporting Manchester. Our sporting successes project the Manchester brand across the globe – more than justifying our new ranking on the ultimate world sports city list."

The city’s sports highlights for 2012 include Olympic Football at Old Trafford, GB v USA men's and women's basketball matches at the Manchester Arena and the opening of the National Football Museum at the city’s Urbis building.

Glasgow Celtic have more REGISTERED supporters worldwide than any other football club in the world. NOT PEOPLE WHO WEAR A SHIRT (usually a cheap copy) AND CALL THEMSELVES SUPPORTERS OF WHOEVER IS TOP OF THE LEAGUE AT THE
TIME.

What is a registered supporter!!! I am a United supporter, I have been all my life. Up until 2004 I was a season ticket holder in the north stand. Until 2008 I was still a member! Now I am neither, do I somehow not exist as a supporter!!!!

Appologies to all. I shall now refrain from feeding to troll!

Need to start using some of that soap.

What is a registered supporter!!! I am a United supporter, I have been all my life. Up until 2004 I was a season ticket holder in the north stand. Until 2008 I was still a member! Now I am neither, do I somehow not exist as a supporter!!!!

Appologies to all. I shall now refrain from feeding to troll!A supporter who joins a supporters club and pays annual dues. Glasgow Celtic supporters in Australia have a convention every year in a different Australian city. Celtic supporters in Canada and America have their annual convention in Las Vegas. Almost every branch of the Celtic supporters club have a physical (bricks and morter) club house. My brother-in-law who is a Celtic supporter and lives near Toronto tells me there are at least four clubs in that area and all have a clubhouse.

Me too am a United supporter and was a season ticket holder till I moved away six years ago. I am not a registered member of any United supporters club. I met a fella in washington who had a 'Sharp' shirt on. I asked him were he was from and it wasnt Manchester. He said someone had given him the shirt because he worked for Sharp electronics in America. He wasn't a united supporter. My wife won a LFC umbrella at a golf match, she doesnt support LFC. wearing a strip doesnt a supporter make.

A supporter who joins a supporters club and pays annual dues. Glasgow Celtic supporters in Australia have a convention every year in a different Australian city. Celtic supporters in Canada and America have their annual convention in Las Vegas. Almost every branch of the Celtic supporters club have a physical (bricks and morter) club house. My brother-in-law who is a Celtic supporter and lives near Toronto tells me there are at least four clubs in that area and all have a clubhouse.

Me too am a United supporter and was a season ticket holder till I moved away six years ago. I am not a registered member of any United supporters club. I met a fella in washington who had a 'Sharp' shirt on. I asked him were he was from and it wasnt Manchester. He said someone had given him the shirt because he worked for Sharp electronics in America. He wasn't a united supporter. My wife won a LFC umbrella at a golf match, she doesnt support LFC. wearing a strip doesnt a supporter make.

Deffo Eutex!

What "titles" does your city hold?

On the world stage, Manchester has:-

- The world's first soap
- The world's most famous pub (the Rover's)


I always thought the Archers was made in Birmingham (assuming/hoping you're not talking about the substance). :|

Yes I know but if that's the case and he is still sticking by his embarrassing claim then tell him and you to visit this site: http://english.people.com.cn/90001/98649/7349159.htmlWell Glasgow Celtic have more REGISTERED supporters worldwide than any other football club in the world. NOT PEOPLE WHO WEAR A SHIRT (usually a cheap copy) AND CALL THEMSELVES SUPPORTERS OF WHOEVER IS TOP OF THE LEAGUE AT THE TIME.
Sloyne, why do you keep making new WUM accounts? This is such a transparent troll tactic you're now indulging in. Sad.

Sloyne, why do you keep making new WUM accounts? This is such a transparent troll tactic you're now indulging in. Sad.im not sloyne or eutex or anyone else. I have a question for you and the likes of you. Why do you keep embarrising us by making totally false claims and then when someone takes you to task over these blatant lies you dont talk about the issue or facts you try and avoid answering for your lies by calling them names like sloyn and eutex. sad and extra sad really and gives us all a bad name and makes us a laughing stock on these forums.

I always thought the Archers was made in Birmingham (assuming/hoping you're not talking about the substance). :|

Correct! Soap Opera meaning continual drama - The Archers started in Brum in 1951 while Coronation St began in 1960.

im not sloyne or eutex or anyone else. I have a question for you and the likes of you. Why do you keep embarrising us by making totally false claims and then when someone takes you to task over these blatant lies you dont talk about the issue or facts you try and avoid answering for your lies by calling them names like sloyn and eutex. sad and extra sad really and gives us all a bad name and makes us a laughing stock on these forums.

you are one crazy fucking mo fo sloyne.

im not sloyne or eutex or anyone else. I have a question for you and the likes of you. Why do you keep embarrising us by making totally false claims and then when someone takes you to task over these blatant lies you dont talk about the issue or facts you try and avoid answering for your lies by calling them names like sloyn and eutex. sad and extra sad really and gives us all a bad name and makes us a laughing stock on these forums.

Suppose a mod could always confirm it by checking the cookie/ip trails!!

you are one crazy fucking mo fo sloyne.

He has added a couple of spelling mistakes to try and convince its not him:lol: nice try,

He has added a couple of spelling mistakes to try and convince its not him:lol: nice try,

And he would've got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids.

And he would've got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids.

You have been watching too much scooby doo

Yes I know but if that's the case and he is still sticking by his embarrassing claim then tell him and you to visit this site: http://english.people.com.cn/90001/98649/7349159.htmlWell Glasgow Celtic have more REGISTERED supporters worldwide than any other football club in the world. NOT PEOPLE WHO WEAR A SHIRT (usually a cheap copy) AND CALL THEMSELVES SUPPORTERS OF WHOEVER IS TOP OF THE LEAGUE AT THE TIME.

Absolutely correct.!:banana:

Celtic has something like 6 million members of supporters clubs in Japan,as well as 200 supporters clubs in England and 100 in Ireland.!

p.s.Norwich seen alot from England and Ireland at the Norwich Testimonial this week.!

Are manu bigger than jesus?
....

Are manu bigger than jesus?
....
who's jesus?

Are manu bigger than jesus?
....No, jesus is one of the few middle easterners who doesn't have money tied up in city.

I don't know who he is either, av just read that John Lennon said summat about him..
ta for the info

The Beatles-Manchester United

'''''

Jesus

No, jesus is one of the few middle easterners who doesn't have money tied up in city.

:lol:

Love this, a totally out of touch attempt to make a City-arab-money joke.

Good stuff sloyne. :)

The 'Yanks' 2" are about to employ another Spanish waiter.

Stop it.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8463/rafatollahhenry.jpg

the dictator

Neither should they because it [Manchester] is just a larger version of the other mill towns, say like , Bolton. No wow factor!
Liverpool's Waterfront and its other skyline buildings are unique and spectacular and warrant their special attention.

Golden makes me giggle. :lol:

http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/11803-cities-confirm-legal-merger.html

12 Jun 2012, 11:09
Manchester City Council and Salford City Council have started the procurement process to merge their legal panels for property and regeneration work.
A tender brief covering four lots was published this week to establish framework agreements to deliver commercial property, major regeneration, commercial regeneration and child care legal services.
The budget for the combined frameworks is between £3m and £5.5m. Up to 10 firms are expected to be appointed for three years.
The merger of the legal departments was announced in May 2011. As well as the law firms appointed to the framework, the legal departments will employ council staff based at both Manchester and Salford local authority offices.
The advisors will work on construction contracts, landlord and tenant disputes, highways and infrastructure projects, joint ventures, public-private partnerships and major or complex matters across a range of regeneration legal disciplines.
The procurement is being run through the North West Chest local authority website

What? One city, not two? Confused. I thought Greater Manchester was imaginery?

Ho hum.

I have no idea what that article is talking about to be quite honest? I always thought Manchester and Salford were miles apart. In fact, don't you have to create a worm hole to get between the two? Astro physics and all that? I tried to cross the border yesterday on a bus, the infantry on the Salford side were fierce! Kept shooting at us with missiles and RPGs. It was relentless.

Not really city bashing...

no, it's a comedy double act: Manchestahs new little and large!

no, it's a comedy double act: Manchestahs new little and large!

What would you call this then?

THE 'second city' rivalry between Manchester and Birmingham could be put to one side in a new spirit of collaboration.

Sir Albert Bore, the new leader of Birmingham City Council suggests the so-called Core Cities - including Manchester and Birmingham - should work together.

“Manchester is sometimes a competitor of ours. But they are not the enemy. We share vital strategic interests and we should work closely with all the Core Cities to make sure our collective voice is heard,” he said in his first policy statement as leader.

Sir Albert and Manchester’s leader, Sir Richard Leese, will work closely together to strengthen the case for both cities with government.

He said: “This marks a clean break from the old approach of competing with the other cities for attention. Instead we recognise that the cities share a common interest in seeking more powers and fairer funding so we can boost growth and create jobs.”

Sir Richard Leese, leader of Manchester City Council, said: “This is not just a city issue. Every part of the UK needs our major cities to be delivering strong and sustainable growth. Manchester very much looks forward to working with Birmingham, along with the other Core Cities, to ensure that growth is maximised across the UK in the coming years.”

An early example of this new ‘grown up’ relationship is that the two cities are already exploring ways to share resources and take forward a number of important policy issues.

That's the problem with some of you Lioners, you're so narrow minded. Let's hope for your sake Leeds is one of the other core cities. If it isn't Leeds will be left even further behind. Now that would be comical. Who's laughing now?

I'm sure it's referring to the 8 Core Cities group, no? Or are you kind of slow in the head? :happy:

That's the problem with you Mancunians, you can't take jokes and take everything at face value. Live a little, mister moody.

What would you call this then?



That's the problem with some of you Lioners, you're so narrow minded. Let's hope for your sake Leeds is one of the other core cities. If it isn't Leeds will be left even further behind. Now that would be comical. Who's laughing now?

If you did your research of core cities in the UK, you would know that Leeds is indeed one of them

Went to the new Rolex boutique in Leeds.

A very nice store indeed.

Wonder if they'll expand?

Oh wait... Manchester's retail is dying and are snubbing Manchester in favor of Leeds with no plans whatsoever to open in any other northern city.

And it's the first outside of London.

:cheers:

Reel them in jrb.

Mike didn't bite, but surprise, surprise, Aaron and Skychaser did. And 10123 did his usual....(is it worth filling in?)

Come on chaps, this is jrb. Of course I knew Leeds was one of the core cities. Can you name the others? Erm...

As you can probably tell from the article and comments, the two big hitters are already forging a close(r) relationship.

Have a seat around the table Leeds. Over there.

Attention: could all the MODs please acknowledge that the Loiners have started a Manc vs Leeds fight ... again. Unprovoked by us Mancs, (but I'm sure we'll still get the blame at the end of it all, as always).

10123, Manchester's footfall has increased. Need I go look for the news article that I posted just last week? (please say no, this computer is agonizingly slow)

they're too busy fighting with the rockers.

What would you call this then?



That's the problem with some of you Lioners, you're so narrow minded. Let's hope for your sake Leeds is one of the other core cities. If it isn't Leeds will be left even further behind. Now that would be comical. Who's laughing now?

.....who started it.....for goodness sake!!!!!!

What would you call this then?



That's the problem with some of you Lioners, you're so narrow minded. Let's hope for your sake Leeds is one of the other core cities. If it isn't Leeds will be left even further behind. Now that would be comical. Who's laughing now?

What's a 'Lioner'?

And why are you trying to turn a positive news article about co-operation between the Core Cities into some sort of attack on Leeds? Pathetic.

What's a 'Lioner'?

A phrase Mancunians use when they're trying to have a dig at Loiners, or if you prefer, Leodensians. I've noticed others do it too.

5th Metrolink line opened this morning.

Testing took place on the 6th line for the first time overnight.

Just saying.

A phrase Mancunians use when they're trying to have a dig at Loiners, or if you prefer, Leodensians. I've noticed others do it too.

I had noticed this, but just assumed they were getting it wrong!

Truth be told it is because no one in the real world knows what someone from Leeds is called.

I honestly mis-read it on here at first, honestly thinking it was Lioner.

Not the most well known fact is it? What is someone called Leeds called?

I'll ignore the obvious jokes.

I had noticed this, but just assumed they were getting it wrong!

First time maybe, but since I've definitely seen it corrected before, the persistent use is certainly not a mistake!

.....who started it.....for goodness sake!!!!!!

10123 did.


Went to the new Rolex boutique in Leeds.

A very nice store indeed.

Wonder if they'll expand?

Oh wait... Manchester's retail is dying and are snubbing Manchester in favor of Leeds with no plans whatsoever to open in any other northern city.

And it's the first outside of London.

:cheers:

Worth pointing out that Manchester's footfall is accelerating at a faster rate than any other core city. Not to mention the fact that Manchester's retail sector is, uh, bigger than Leeds?

And it still will be bigger than Leeds even with Trinity and Eastgate because we have the Trafford Centre.

Hm.

Of course, 10123 started it because (like a lot of Loiners and Scousers on here) he felt the need to compare and put down Manchester.

Still though, us Mancunians will get the blame.

Just thought I'd let you guys know that Oldhamers can now travel into town on a brand new shiny metro line.

How many metros are there in Leeds?

...

Leeds have one big Metro! ;)

http://www.wyltp.com/NR/rdonlyres/52B4A4B8-7492-4FC2-8181-37D4F0EFBB4A/0/Mprintqualitysmall.jpg

Leeds council decided they didn't want a tram network back in the 1990's.

Worst local decision by any council in a English city with regards local transport in the last 30years?

10123 did.






No, JRB did actually.

No, JRB did actually.

By posting a news article? Don't think so.

10123 made the leap.

Still, you Loiners can have your Rolex shop. We're pretty damn happy with our Metrolink, which will link yet more people to Manchester city centre and increase footfall even more than it already is doing. By 2016 we'll have over 100 Metro stations, to go with our 90 stations-strong rail network, and our largest bus network in the UK outside London (complete with interchange refurbishments, new interchanges in Bolton, Rochdale, Oldham and Wythenshawe) and train station refurbishments. Not to mention Ordsall Curve which will see Manchester become the centre of the North's rail network.

You want investment for the future? There it is, right there.

Rolex Shops :lol: lol, please.

No, JRB did actually.

No, jrb didn't actually.

Check again.

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2350055.jpg

By posting a news article? Don't think so.

10123 made the leap.

Still, you Loiners can have your Rolex shop. We're pretty damn happy with our Metrolink, which will link yet more people to Manchester city centre and increase footfall even more than it already is doing. By 2016 we'll have over 100 Metro stations, to go with our 90 stations-strong rail network, and our largest bus network in the UK outside London (complete with interchange refurbishments, new interchanges in Bolton, Rochdale, Oldham and Wythenshawe) and train station refurbishments. Not to mention Ordsall Curve which will see Manchester become the centre of the North's rail network.

You want investment for the future? There it is, right there.

Rolex Shops :lol: lol, please.
Oh my god, will you shut the fuck up about how great Manchester is? It makes you look like a little insecure teenager with nothing better to do.

Here's the deal, if Manchester is so fantastic and so amazing, and is the greatest, biggest, whatever outside of London, you have nothing to prove. You're like a bloody dog with a bone, what are you trying to prove?

Leeds council decided they didn't want a tram network back in the 1990's.

Worst local decision by any council in a English city with regards local transport in the last 30years?

It's okay, public transport is for sweaty poor people. :tongue2:

No, JRB did actually.

Mike whatever his name is, decided to make a little joke about Manchester.. so jrb as per usual had to come along and proclaim Manchester is so fan-fucking-tastic, because he has no sense of humour.

Wow! Spitting feathers?

Aaron is on a roll. (3 posts on the run)

"Don't stop me now, I'm having such a......

Why didn't you just quote 'Mike's' Post.

Here you go.

no, it's a comedy double act: Manchestahs new little and large!

It certainly was little. I'd actually call it.......

What would you call this then?

(the said article)

That's the problem with some of you Lioners, you're so narrow minded. Let's hope for your sake Leeds is one of the other core cities. If it isn't Leeds will be left even further behind. Now that would be comical. Who's laughing now?

So where did I.... ^^

proclaim Manchester is so fan-fucking-tastic

I just posted the said article about Birmingham and Manchester and....

because he has no sense of humour

Oh come on. I must have a sense of humour, I'm still replying to you. :hahano:

Ha. :)

Still, you Loiners can have your Rolex shop. We're pretty damn happy with our Metrolink,

Rolex Shops :lol: lol, please.

They have been milking it haven't they, I prefer TAG's , but my Sekonda does the the job fine

Ha. :)

Aaron.

Seriously, it's nothing personal.

I certainly don't have a problem with you. Or with Leeds for that Matter.

Question.

How come the Manchester forum members never have any spats with the Birmingham forum members?

How come the Manchester forum members rarely have a spat with the Liverpool forum members anymore. It used to be constant and pretty bad.

Now we come to the Manchester forum members and the Leeds forum members. What's causing the constant problems?

Oh my god, will you shut the fuck up about how great Manchester is? It makes you look like a little insecure teenager with nothing better to do.

Here's the deal, if Manchester is so fantastic and so amazing, and is the greatest, biggest, whatever outside of London, you have nothing to prove. You're like a bloody dog with a bone, what are you trying to prove?

So 10123 doesn't get in trouble for posting about how great Leeds is cause it has a Rolex shop?

10123 doesn't get in trouble for clearly trying to start an argument by (wrongly) saying that retailers are abandoning Manchester?

Nope, once again it's the Manc forumer's fault. Blame the Mancs.

I'm trying to prove to 10123 that he can have his Rolex shop and his KFC, we have a great deal of infastructure projects going on here. Infastructure = success as a big city. I'd much rather have one of Europe's largest Metro networks than a Rolex shop (which will probably come anyway as a result of increased footfall due to Metrolink and other public transport improvements).

Manchester also has some pretty decent independent retailers-which-are-nowhere-else-in-the-UK but London. Lonely Planet announced this week they'll be opening a shop here, they don't even have one in London let alone anywhere else. We just don't feel the need to shout about crap like that on here because they're much bigger things going on.

Still, you guys have your Rolex shop. No really, I insist. We'll have all the big city infastructure that Leeds can only dream of having.

Thanks :cheers:

What would you call this then?



That's the problem with some of you Lioners, you're so narrow minded. Let's hope for your sake Leeds is one of the other core cities. If it isn't Leeds will be left even further behind. Now that would be comical. Who's laughing now?

As you can see above JRB started it

After all it is the My city Vs Your city.

Aaron.

Seriously, it's nothing personal.

I certainly don't have a problem with you. Or with Leeds for that Matter.

Question.

How come the Manchester forum members never have any spats with the Birmingham forum members?

How come the Manchester forum members rarely have a spat with the Liverpool forum members anymore. It used to be constant and pretty bad.

Now we come to the Manchester forum members and the Leeds forum members. What's causing the constant problems?

No idea, but no need to blame 10123039584905834958345903485490358 all the time. VoldemortBlack is always instigating arguments when there weren't any to begin with. Take his latest post for example.

For the record I actually like Manchester, a lot, lot more than Birmingham or Liverpool. And I've never actually had a dig at Manchester itself on here before. And I certainly don't big up Leeds. I'm just here to stick up for Leeds, primarily against people who probably know little about it. :)

As you can see above JRB started it

After all it is the My city Vs Your city.

But Mike's was a.....

a little joke about Manchester

in your opinion.

And yes, In my opinion 'some' Leeds forum members are narrow minded.(I won't name them) And Leeds will get left behind unless it starts....(fill in as appropriate)

It is the city bashing thread after all. Ask Mike.

Well, it would be nice if you could tell us how you think Leeds will be left behind. Our public transport is crappy, of course, but Leeds City Council are routinely criticised on the Leeds forum for being stupid in that area. :)

No idea, but no need to blame 10123039584905834958345903485490358 all the time. VoldemortBlack is always instigating arguments when there weren't any to begin with. Take his latest post for example.

For the record I actually like Manchester, a lot, lot more than Birmingham or Liverpool. And I've never actually had a dig at Manchester itself on here before. And I certainly don't big up Leeds. I'm just here to stick up for Leeds, primarily against people who probably know little about it. :)

But one has more history and is a lot more constant than the other.

And it's not only 10123.(Banking, Law, Retail, Retail, shopping arcades, Rolex Watches, etc)

Let me refresh your memory. Post 3790. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=570684&page=190

If you want me to be honest most of the problems stem from 10123. I'm not saying for one moment Mancunian posters are blameless, but 10123 and some other Leeds forum members have taken this Leeds/Manchester spat to a new level.

A lot of what 10123 says isn't necessarily wrong though.. just kind of misleading ;)

A simple thing to do is ignore people who constantly instigate arguments, yeah? But this is the city vs city thread, created so arguments don't take place in other threads. :)

Well, it would be nice if you could tell us how you think Leeds will be left behind. Our public transport is crappy, of course, but Leeds City Council are routinely criticised on the Leeds forum for being stupid in that area. :)

Compared to Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool, Leeds(city council) doesn't seem to be doing anything to push the city forward through the current economic malaise.(I stand corrected)

Just look across the forums and see what's currently happening in Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool. Then look at Leeds. An arena and two shopping centres.(Perhaps there's more?)

To me Leeds(City Council) sems to be stagnant ATM. If this isn't the case then fair enough. It's just the impression I get. Perhaps a bit more information on the hotel and economic thread will change my perception of Leeds and what Leeds City Council is doing to push the city forward?

A lot of what 10123 says isn't necessarily wrong though.. just kind of misleading ;)

A simple thing to do is ignore people who constantly instigate arguments, yeah? But this is the city vs city thread, created so arguments don't take place in other threads. :)

Oh come on Aaron. Stop making excuses for him. You know exactly what he's like and what he's up too.

That's like me saying ignore me. You don't though do you. Yeah?

It's not only this thread. It's across the forums.

If 10123 stopped his.....(fill in as appropriate), then most of the Leeds/Manchester spats would stopped instantly. No?

I don't ignore you because you don't annoy me. If he annoys you, just ignore him.

Compared to Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool, Leeds(city council) doesn't seem to be doing anything to push the city forward through the current economic malaise.(I stand corrected)

Just look across the forums and see what's currently happening in Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool. Then look at Leeds. An arena and two shopping centres.(Perhaps there's more?)

To me Leeds(City Council) sems to be stagnant ATM. If this isn't the case then fair enough. It's just the impression I get. Perhaps a bit more information on the hotel and economic thread will change my perception of Leeds and what Leeds City Council is doing to push the city forward?

If you're truly interested, you could take a look on the Leeds forum. I don't know, maybe there isn't as much going on here as in other cities, but I'm not really sure.

If you're truly interested, you could take a look on the Leeds forum. I don't know, maybe there isn't as much going on here as in other cities, but I'm not really sure.

I'm interested in most the UK core cities. Unfortunately any interesting or positive news posted in Leeds forum rarely makes it beyond the Leeds forum. I do dip into the Leeds forum every now and again though.

I don't ignore you because you don't annoy me. If he annoys you, just ignore him.

He doesn't annoy me. I don't get annoyed by anyone on SSC.(I only ignore one poster and never reply to him) If anything he frustrates me. It's obvious he has a healthy and keen interest in all things Leeds. Good on him. Nothing wrong with that. Yet he has this unhealthy obsession with Manchester and comparing it to Leeds. Why?(I should direct that question to him really) If he just concentrated on Leeds and channeled his enthusiasm that way, the forum/threads would be much more peaceful.

Attention: could all the MODs please acknowledge that the Loiners have started a Manc vs Leeds fight ... again. Unprovoked by us Mancs, (but I'm sure we'll still get the blame at the end of it all, as always).

10123, Manchester's footfall has increased. Need I go look for the news article that I posted just last week? (please say no, this computer is agonizingly slow)

Ideally you would all shut up. You never see the Southern forumers in these butch fights :/

Compared to Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool, Leeds(city council) doesn't seem to be doing anything to push the city forward through the current economic malaise.(I stand corrected)

Just look across the forums and see what's currently happening in Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool. Then look at Leeds. An arena and two shopping centres.(Perhaps there's more?)

To me Leeds(City Council) sems to be stagnant ATM. If this isn't the case then fair enough. It's just the impression I get. Perhaps a bit more information on the hotel and economic thread will change my perception of Leeds and what Leeds City Council is doing to push the city forward?

What a load of nonsence. You really do need to find out more about what is happening in Leeds and what is proposed to realise that Leeds is moving forward with very exciting major developments. I must also take you up on your comment about Leeds getting an Arena and two shopping centres. If it were just that and nothing else which it is not, that is over £1 billion of investment in Leeds City Centre........but when you include all the infrastructure being developed around these projects, then you are adding over £100 m in the Arena Quarter alone with new hotels (incl a 5 star Hilton) and shopping/leisure.

Add the massive regeneration of the Southbank with Asda just announcing it is moving its HQ to the Tetleys old site, opening the way for huge development as well as a city park on the waterfront, and Leeds certainly is not standing still

Our Trolley bus will come and our southern city motorway management scheme is under way costing £250m. Add the major developments at Leeds Bradford Airport, and Leeds City Station, and maybe, just maybe you will see that this city is developing at a very strong pace.

I don't think the Trolleybus is coming I'm afraid. Looks dead forever.

Well, it would be nice if you could tell us how you think Leeds will be left behind. Our public transport is crappy, of course, but Leeds City Council are routinely criticised on the Leeds forum for being stupid in that area. :)

They are part of the Met County set the lowest transport levy of any in the country.

The forum seems the have a liking for light rail, the primary reason the city has no light rail is due to decisions taken by the council in the 1990s.

If major transport infrastructure schemes are your thing then, Leeds council, along with the other West Yorks councils have probably not helped your cause.

However, if you have different priorities than many on here - as most normal people do, then maybe it's different.

Oh, and you are very blinkered as to how people from other cities take a dig at Manchester as somehow being valid, yet if someone posts something about West Yorks / Leeds to suddenly they are being a troll.

The major developments at LBA? In relation to any airport handling 2.5m passenger per annum.

Manchester handles 19.5m.

To compare the investment at Ringway with LBA is almost beyond parody. We are getting a mass transit system installed, train platform extensions, Terminal 1 doubled in size, new control tower, truly massive airport city business park just been confirmed, extension to A555 costing £300m confirmed.

That is just the airport!

That is why some Manchester forum people laugh. To compare Leeds with Manchester is truly a joke.

You are building an arena, 50% smaller than ours and a mere 20 years after ours completed.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/business/s/1470426_manchesters-650m-airport-city-master-plan-unveiled £650m

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/futures/a555-maelr-hazel-grove-poynton/ £300m

http://www.metrolink.co.uk/futuremetrolink/airport-line.asp c£500m

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/manweb.nsf/content/Airportcontroltowerbreaksnewground £16m

Investment at the airport, for the airport over £1bn, happening now, diggers on site.... LBA is getting what exactly?

Are you being serious?

http://www.bighospitality.co.uk/Business/Hospitable-cities-Spotlight-on-Manchesterhttp://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/chameleontel/bananamac.gif

The major developments at LBA? In relation to any airport handling 2.5m passenger per annum.

Manchester handles 19.5m.

To compare the investment at Ringway with LBA is almost beyond parody. We are getting a mass transit system installed, train platform extensions, Terminal 1 doubled in size, new control tower, truly massive airport city business park just been confirmed, extension to A555 costing £300m confirmed.

That is just the airport!

That is why some Manchester forum people laugh. To compare Leeds with Manchester is truly a joke.

You are building an arena, 50% smaller than ours and a mere 20 years after ours completed.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/business/s/1470426_manchesters-650m-airport-city-master-plan-unveiled £650m

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/futures/a555-maelr-hazel-grove-poynton/ £300m

http://www.metrolink.co.uk/futuremetrolink/airport-line.asp c£500m

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/manweb.nsf/content/Airportcontroltowerbreaksnewground £16m

Investment at the airport, for the airport over £1bn, happening now, diggers on site.... LBA is getting what exactly?

Are you being serious?

Agree lol. LBA might be growing but the site is piss poor for expansion, ontop of a hill surrounded by houses.

We are doing other things though, the South Bank site that Asda is going to buy, a 22 acre site larger than NOMA for £65 million in Leeds center.

This will make it one of, if not the largest development in Europe. Plus when we say Asda its Walmart thats funding all this which shits over any other company in the world.

The major developments at LBA? In relation to any airport handling 2.5m passenger per annum.

Manchester handles 19.5m.

To compare the investment at Ringway with LBA is almost beyond parody. We are getting a mass transit system installed, train platform extensions, Terminal 1 doubled in size, new control tower, truly massive airport city business park just been confirmed, extension to A555 costing £300m confirmed.

That is just the airport!

That is why some Manchester forum people laugh. To compare Leeds with Manchester is truly a joke.

You are building an arena, 50% smaller than ours and a mere 20 years after ours completed.

[Investment at the airport, for the airport over £1bn, happening now, diggers on site.... LBA is getting what exactly?

Are you being serious?

Was I comparing Manchester with Leeds....NO. There are more cities in the UK than just Manchester!! Against Brum or Liverpool, or indeed other major regional centres, Leeds developments are very strong.......oh and for the record I will say it again that your Arena may be bigger, but as your CEO said "Leeds Arena will be the flagship arena in Europe for SMG!!"

Was I comparing Manchester with Leeds....NO. There are more cities in the UK than just Manchester!! Against Brum or Liverpool, or indeed other major regional centres, Leeds developments are very strong.......oh and for the record I will say it again that your Arena may be bigger, but as your CEO said "Leeds Arena will be the flagship arena in Europe for SMG!!"

lol. now even you don't believe that bollocks.

Let's see how you define flagship.

The world's 2nd best attended arena, is not their flagship?

Must be a quick sale job then

Lol I can tell we'll not be hearing the end of this ASDA thing in Leeds for quite some time. Everyone look; Leeds is building something. Must mean they're better than us.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure that if the MEN is the world's second busiest arena, it's probably SMG's flagship. Js

no,after you...who's doing the feed?

Lol I can tell we'll not be hearing the end of this ASDA thing in Leeds for quite some time. Everyone look; Leeds is building something. Must mean they're better than us.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure that if the MEN is the world's second busiest arena, it's probably SMG's flagship. Js

I am not going into this debate again, we had pages of this a few months back when I posted a report from the Euro CEO of SMG who clearly stated at a press conference that Leeds Arena will be their flagship in Europe. As we ended up saying, lets just wait and see, only 11 months to go to the opening

What're you actually expecting will happen? Genuine question. Are you actually anticipating that Leeds arena will rival Manchester in terms of size and patronage within the next year? Because if you are, prepare to be dissapointed. No non-London arena will rival Manchester in the next 2 decades, you can debate that all you want.

Companies twist words and chat crap all the time. I'm sure Leeds arena will be great, but think about it. The CEO is not going to come out and say "Yeah, we're building an arena in Leeds ... but ... Manchester's arena is still going to be bigger and busier". No. He wouldn't. He'll pick out the good things about it; contribution to economy, jobs, 'new era of arenas', new design, better acoustics than all the others etc etc mumbo jumbo ... to gain support.

Okay, I'll use our beloved Metrolink as an example so as to avoid looking like I'm shitting in Leeds' face;

Recently opened to Oldham, I'm sure you all know that now.

The CEO's or whatever at Transport for Greater Manchester are claiming that Metrolink is:-

- Faster (than the equivalent peak journey time by car to the city centre)
- Cheaper (when petrol and parking is considered)
- Better for the environment, etc

However, this is a major play/twist on words.

Yes, it is faster. However only faster than a rushour trip into Manchester. In terms of the train service it replaced, it is not faster. It's about 5 minutes slower because it stops at new stations.

Yes, it's cheaper. than the equivalent journey by car, at rushour, using up petrol standing still and factoring in Manchester's expensive parking rates. However, it is not cheaper than the rail service it replaced.

It's all a play on words. If TFGM had come into Oldham saying "Yep, it's not as good as the rail service it replaced ... but look! It's yellow!" then there would have been no support.

It's called business and persuasion.

Lol I can tell we'll not be hearing the end of this ASDA thing in Leeds for quite some time. Everyone look; Leeds is building something. Must mean they're better than us.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure that if the MEN is the world's second busiest arena, it's probably SMG's flagship. Js

Stop crying over it... you do realize this is the my city v thread so you can say whatever you want.

Anyway Walmart shits over Coop!

We can say whatever we want?

Lol okay. If you're a Leeds forumer criticizing Manchester ofc. The other way round is strictly forbidden, am I right? :)

Yeah Walmart is larger than Co-operative.

But Co-operative have their world headquarters in Manchester

Walmart don't have their world headquarters in Leeds, they have it in America.

Asda, a mere subsidary of Walmart, have their headquarters in Leeds.

We can say whatever we want?

Lol okay. If you're a Leeds forumer criticizing Manchester ofc. The other way round is strictly forbidden, am I right? :)

Yeah Walmart is larger than Co-operative.

But Co-operative have their world headquarters in Manchester

Walmart don't have their world headquarters in Leeds, they have it in America.

Asda, a mere subsidary of Walmart, have their headquarters in Leeds.

I can't believe I am coming down to your tit for tat level, but that what you have done to me with this post, so your Manchester based Co-operative turnover is £14 billion, against Leeds based Asda turnover at £20 billion.....who is bigger now!!!!

Didn't say anything about who's was bigger.

All I said was that Co-op's world headquaters in Manchester, as opposed to Walmart's headquarters which are in America, not Leeds. Asda is a subsidary of Walmart, its base is in Leeds.

That's all. No need to bring comparisons into it.

I believe I should mention Cheshunt, global HQ of a £60bn retailer, third largest in the world. Must be an amazing place....

Exactly.

I believe I should mention Cheshunt, global HQ of a £60bn retailer, third largest in the world. Must be an amazing place....

:lol:

You might be surprised to find something else that Loiners keep under their belts..Leeds possesses the largest Organ in Europe..
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9017/leedsthorgancopy.jpg
Magnificent..

You might be surprised to find something else that Loiners keep under their belts..Leeds possesses the largest Organ in Europe..
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9017/leedsthorgancopy.jpg
Magnificent..




it is fantastic


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http://theatreorgans.com/laird/top.pipe.organs.html

ha ha havent looked at the link yet but guessed something would be 'coming' this way..
just looked, maybe it doesn't 'stand up' amongst the rest of the worlds truly gigantic organs?

Who cares, its an absolute stunner!

Leeds possesses the largest Organ in Europe..But Mancs wave theirs better.:)

Arenas, arenas, arenas, yep and Brum has 2 purpose built ones and both before any core city had built their first.

Arenas, arenas, arenas, yep and Brum has 2 purpose built ones and both before any core city had built their first.

Ya Preston North End came before Old Trafford.

Past is the past.

Forwards we march :)

As shown in lots of ads around Brum city centre at present - Birmingham, The Original Design City.

Double again. Sorry!

Ya Preston North End came before Old Trafford.

Past is the past.

Forwards we march :)A long time before (1880 v 1902) as did almost every other stadium and team and, isn't Preston North End's stadium named Deepdale?

Yep, the "past is the past" but, didn't Preston North End win the same amount of honors this season as the team that plays at Old Trafford.:lol:

Yep, sic"forwards we march".:lol:

A false largest boast, but then again only Mancs do this,

Don't they Euxtex

A false largest boast, but then again only Mancs do this,

Don't they EuxtexNO!

So its not only Mancs, that settles it then.

I love the Mancunians, the Liverpudlians, the Novocastrians, the Glaswegians, the Edinburgians, the Londoners, the Bristolians, the Brummies, the Sheffielders.. I love you all so much. :hug:

I love the Mancunians, the Liverpudlians, the Novocastrians, the Glaswegians, the Edinburgians, the Londoners, the Bristolians, the Brummies, the Sheffielders.. I love you all so much. :hug:

You drunk mate? ;)

This is not a 'bashing' post - and so it was difficult to find a space for it on this forum; but I did not know where to put it; and it represents a bit of 'left-over business' from before I made the decision to abandon this forum ( & which still stands!).

I took a trip over to Manchester on Tuesday & the sun was shining - and every city is at its best in the sunshine ( this is what I wanted).
As already communicated, I'd only visited Manchester on two previous occasions - leaving me with fleeting impressions only. Of course, this recent trip, of just a few hours, would still present just another 'overall impression' - but I think that impressions are powerful:

This is my impression:

1. A big, busy, bustling metropolis - similar to London, but without the obvious grandeur and pomposity of Government, Royalty, 'Capital City' vibe etc. I can see how 'London Folk' may feel somewhat at home - it feeling fairly anonymous, very busy, 'full-on'...

2. Lots of magnificent, interesting and varied architecture and buildings - all crammed in tightly and competing for attention; not much consistency of streetscape, but impressive nonetheless - in terms of scale and ambition.
A lot of of red brick & 'Gothic' in proportion ( and in less favourable weather, maybe oppressive!)

3. Lots of good public squares and spaces.

4. A 'full-on' city experience - lots of people, cars, buses, trams( but maybe difficult just to stroll and relax; constant vigilance necessary!) I can imagine that after a short while I would need to 'get out!' (as in London)

5. Very 'dense' and built -up -( great if you are looking for that kind of experience - but could come to feel claustrophobic and overwhelming.)

6. Lots of 'hidden gems' -( spread out over a wide area.)

7. Flat - difficult to orientate and get a sense of perspective; spreads out in all directions ( locals found it difficult to give precise directions)

8. I liked Spinningfields and its immediate environs the best, and on reflection realised that this was because it was 'designed', 'unified' and provided a haven away from the noise/action.

I'm, obviously, coming from a Liverpool experience - and on arriving back in Liverpool on the train - the sun still shining - I realised, and noticed quite profoundly, the following comparisons:

Liverpool:


1. More laid back, relaxed, friendly - not so busy and 'full-on'.

2. More pedestrianised areas and areas where you can escape traffic - creating a more relaxed and leisurely vibe.

3. A greater feeling of spaciousness, openness & perspective ( being built on hills & by the sea gives a feeling of elevation & edge)

4. A better destination for tourists - more to see and do. A nicer, more relaxed place for children and the elderly/relatives. A better 'day out'.

5. More consistency of streetscapes: more elegance & classical beauty, although there are certain streets which are just the same in look and vibe as in Manchester.

6. Definite 'zones' or areas which have a particular identity, and are of particular interest ( asking people in Manchester " which are the most interesting areas", met with confused looks!)

Two very different cities - with different strengths - different appeals. Alike in some ways, but very different in other ways.

Great post OpenlyJane I'm glad you enjoyed it.

My family was wondering where to go for New Year's so I suggested Liverpool and that's where we're going in December!! :) but I'd like to see it in Summer so I plan to pop across for the day (if it's nice ofc, as you said everywhere looks best in Summer)

Nice to see you posting again Jane,
Having experience of both cities (living halfway) this is a good honest account

I would agree with most of the things you posted there, a voice of reason finally? Although I would say there are definitely different zones of the city centre and then zones of the inner city and suburbs like oxford road (students) Spinningfields (business) Deansgate and market street (shopping) northern quater (arts, clothes.. more 'indie') China town, chorlton etc etc. I could go on for ages.

I think that is a very good account there Jane.

There are areas that you can get yourself out of the bustle for a while if you want to chill out away from the noise - you found Spinningfields, which is one area I would have suggested. Castlefield would be another good relaxing area, Cathedral gardens can be peaceful if the skateboarders are not around! The Northern quarter streets whilst full of people offer a more relaxed shopping area. And there are numerous squares and gardens to relax in (Parsonage gardens, St Johns Street/Byrom St).

Anyway glad you enjoyed your trip to Manchester and come back soon too see what you missed out.:)

Good post Jane.
Minor criticism though regarding 3 and 4 under Liverpool.
3.Manchester is known for its spaciousness, there are always people sat all over the public spaces in Manchester, around urbis, picadilly gardens etc. Maybe your didnt visit these places?
4."A better destination for tourists" - I dont agree with that but its all down to preference.
"more relaxed place for children and the elderly/relatives" - Cant fault that. I agree.

Overall a very respectable post.

I think that is a very good account there Jane.

There are areas that you can get yourself out of the bustle for a while if you want to chill out away from the noise - you found Spinningfields, which is one area I would have suggested. Castlefield would be another good relaxing area, Cathedral gardens can be peaceful if the skateboarders are not around! The Northern quarter streets whilst full of people offer a more relaxed shopping area. And there are numerous squares and gardens to relax in (Parsonage gardens, St Johns Street/Byrom St).

Anyway glad you enjoyed your trip to Manchester and come back soon too see what you missed out.:)

Mmmmmmm Parsonage Gardens is gorgeous.

Down by the river is also quite peaceful, you could've taken a walk from Spinningfields, down towards the Lowry and then upto Victoria area.

Good account Jane :) with regard to Manchester being chaotic in a similar way to London, I'd certainly agree. The difference in Manchester is that it is very quick and easy to escape to places with a more gentle pace of life. In London, those places can feel a very very long way away.

Good account Jane :) with regard to Manchester being chaotic in a similar way to London, I'd certainly agree. The difference in Manchester is that it is very quick and easy to escape to places with a more gentle pace of life. In London, those places can feel a very very long way away.

Not really, if anything the ability to go for a wonder and find quite places, new places, interesting places that feel like somewhere new, even small town or village like, is one of the defining features of London.

Anyone who thinks that Manchester town centre is a busy as central London needs to spend some time in London. Like an hour or so.

Still, the fact that London organistions have planted a lot of regional offices in Manchester means that yes the middle of Manchester does have a greater number of office workers wandering around during the working week than most cities in the UK nowadays. Still, like other post-industrial cities in England you only have to walk one street from wherever seems busy to find yourself entirely alone without another person in sight.

Anyone who thinks that Manchester town centre is a busy as central London needs to spend some time in London. Like an hour or so.

Still, the fact that London organistions have planted a lot of regional offices in Manchester means that yes the middle of Manchester does have a greater number of office workers wandering around during the working week than most cities in the UK nowadays. Still, like other post-industrial cities in England you only have to walk one street from wherever seems busy to find yourself entirely alone without another person in sight.

Someone's jealous.

So where in the whole world are you from, then? Leeds or Liverpool? Judging by your "Manchester is an industrial city" and general bitterness towards Manchester, I'd say Liverpool.

Might also interest you to know that Manchester is a city and not a town.

S'true though, whoever I am...

Someone's jealous.

So where in the whole world are you from, then? Leeds or Liverpool? Judging by your "Manchester is an industrial city" and general bitterness towards Manchester, I'd say Liverpool.

Might also interest you to know that Manchester is a city and not a town.

Don't take the bait volde, this guy is a anti Manchester troll - I've seen his posts before and they are always the same regarding Manchester - best ignore his nonsense..

Well, whilst I'm here: the jointly-produced MEN/L Post Top 200 companies in the Northwest thing came out yesterday. The largest Manchester-based enterprise is a car dealership, it reports. Yet, the business quarters of central of Manchester is fairly busy, busy with people who work for London organisations. An interesting state of affairs and worth thinking on really in the context of the bigger picture of where power and influences lie in this highly-centralised country.

OR! If you prefer: Manchester is banging, top and OriginalModern. Said so on NWT!

Larger than the Cooperative group? Doesn't count as an enterprise?

Don't take the bait volde, this guy is a anti Manchester troll - I've seen his posts before and they are always the same regarding Manchester - best ignore his nonsense..

A scouse who's an anti-Manc troll? How original. Thanks for the head's up Mark :)

& I think you'll find Manchester's largest business/enterprise/thing that people wear suits for is the Co-op, or something.

Larger than the Cooperative group? Doesn't count as an enterprise?

It's not a limited company, nor a plc and doesn't file results with Company's House and therefore was excluded although its presence was noted.

It it weren't a mutual it would have been right up there for sure.

There is an interesting article (the supplement is generally reasonably well researched and written by the shoddy standards of local and now national media in the UK) concerning the criteria by which various organisations were included or excluded.

For example, AstraZeneca is out despite its large presence in Manchester-ish east Cheshire because it is headquartered elsewhere but Liverpool's Unilever also excluded even though it has its registered office in Port Sunlight because the real global power is weilded at Unilever House on the Thames' South Bank.

Trolly fun but I really cannot, cannot (it's Friday, induldge) resist from point out that if anyone is interested, in the Northwest top 200 the first Manchester company to appear after Lookers car showrooms is at number 21 and is something called Invista Textiles. Which cannot possibly be true because Manchester isn't and never has been a mill town.

Manchester isn't a Milltown anymore. It was never a 'Milltown' anyway (asides from VERY early on). It was a commercial centre and MillCity surrounded by Milltowns.

If Manchester, a town full of mills, wasn't a mill town I don't know what a mill town is and so you may be right.

Well, the difference is Town. Manchester was, or rather IS, a major city. It would be like calling Liverpool a fishing village or port town.

Liverpool: Major Port City with major commercial centre.
Manchester: Major Industrial City with major commercial centre.

I swear some people on here think Manchester is just an overgrown Oldham*.

*Yes, I know Oldham is part of Manchester, it's the first place I could think of.

Oldham is not part of Manchester. It's another mill town. An even worse one. :ohno:

Citybashing thread folks...

The worlds first Industrial Production Line was Marc Brunels Portsmouth Block Mills, does that make Portsmouth a Mill Town too?

They are still in use actually, the building looks in great condition as well. The millitary know how to maintain things properly.

http://www.portsmouthdockyard.org.uk/Block%20Mills.jpg
(Sorry for the bad photo, the Mill is in an area WAY of limits to the public)

Oldham is not part of Manchester. It's another mill town. An even worse one. :ohno:

Citybashing thread folks...

Ah yes, because Birkenhead isn't Liverpool and Gosport isn't Portsmouth ;)

Oldham's part of Greater Manchester, the Manchester Urban Area and now, the Manchester Metrolink :cheers:

How many mill towns does it take to build a tram network?

If Manchester includes all of these other mill towns around it (not just the rest of Manchester in Salford, Trafford, etc., like B'head and Bootle is Lpol) then Manchester's one hell of a city VDB I'll give you that.

Oldham - mill town. Manchester mill town.

Birkenhead - developed by Liverpool ship builders and railway companies to free up docklands and create new commuter suburbs.

Completely different.

Portsmouth - naval shipyard. With a mill.

Gosport - haven't got a clue.

Ah yes, because Birkenhead isn't Liverpool and Gosport isn't Portsmouth ;)

It's one of the mill towns Manchester is surrounded by that you mentioned earlier. It grew up entirely separately to Manchester and was the biggest cotton producing centre in the world at one point. It doesn't particularly look or feel like part of Manchester.

Toady appears to be authoritative on this matter.

Ah yes, because Birkenhead isn't Liverpool and Gosport isn't Portsmouth ;)
Manchester raped Rochdale. :(

Manchester raped Rochdale. :(

Nonce-sense.

Portsmouth. Naval Base and major Military Technology centre (BAE have one of their largest sites here, the University conducts hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of Military research, Lockheed Martin, Qinetiq, etc etc etc all have sites here).

Gosport. Developed to support Portsmouth, new suburbs and more dockspace. Naval Munitions sites, Barracks. VERY much a part of Portsmouth.

Fareham. Developed to support Portsmouth, higher class suburbs, brick works, other industries to support Portsmouth Naval Base (the Bricks were used to build Kensington and the Royal Albert Hall too).

Havant and Waterlooville. Pretty much postwar developments to rehouse the bombed out remains of Portsmouth. The City population dropped by 2/5 as people were rehoused here. The council estates - whilst under a different local authority - are owned by Portsmouth City Council.

Hayling Island. Originally developed as an extension to Portsmouths resort, Southsea (inner city). Many of the towns were settled illegally as Portsmouth was ruined duing the war.

Just an example - like countless others across the UK - of how the an urban area is often developed around one central city, and how that urban area is essentially one city.

Our cities are ridiculously underbounded.

Edit: Also, the reason why one of the Isle of Wight railways remained is because people commute from these towns to Portsmouth! My old P.E. teacher did, one of my bosses does, some of the people I went to college with did. Surprisingly common (not prohibitively expensive with a season ticket, the island has a VERY low cost of Living for the south east).

Manchester isn't a Milltown anymore. It was never a 'Milltown' anyway (asides from VERY early on). It was a commercial centre and MillCity surrounded by Milltowns.


In the very early days when Liverpool was a port importing flax from Ireland to feed the Lancashire textile industry Mancunian merchants were making a mint in London and the continent trading the finished product. The town was always the commercial hub of the textile industry in Lancashire.

These days I think Liverpool proportionally has more manufacturing than Manchester.

Well, Mill Town or not, Manchester (as Awayo says) has more regional offices than most UK cities, meaning there's more suits walking around. Look at OpenlyJane's post; Manchester is a "bustling city" which she(?) associated most with London.

As kids says, Liverpool has more manufacturing than Manchester nowadays. Not a bad thing, but...

Out of the two above, which sounds more like a "mill town" to you? The bustling metropolis with regional offices, or the manufacturing city?


Hmm, tricky one.

Manchester is fucking massive boys.

The massive boys might not like that you know.

Kids stats are wrong. Not that there are any stats and I can't be bothered googling. Anyway any figures I have seen for Manchester or Greater Manchester (neither a decent definition of Manchester) cf. those for Liverpool or Merseyside (neither a decent definition of Liverpool either) show that manufacturing even now is larger as a proportion of its economy than Liverpool. Although like everywhere else it is in decline there.

Well, Mill Town or not, Manchester (as Awayo says) has more regional offices than most UK cities, meaning there's more suits walking around. Look at OpenlyJane's post; Manchester is a "bustling city" which she(?) associated most with London.

And we all know that Liverpool has a large manufacturing industry. Larger than Manchester's, probably

Out of the two above, which sounds more like a "mill town" to you? The bustling metropolis with regional offices, or the manufacturing city?


Hmm, tricky one.

A metropolis does not have regional offices of a metropolis.

The massive boys might not like that you know.

Kids stats are wrong. Not that there are any stats and I can't be bothered googling. Anyway any figures I have seen for Manchester or Greater Manchester (neither a decent definition of Manchester) cf. those for Liverpool or Merseyside (neither a decent definition of Liverpool either) show that manufacturing even now is larger as a proportion of its economy than Liverpool. Although like everywhere else it is in decline there.

Define "decent definition of Manchester." :D

Well quite but drive around Sauls massive thing and there's plenty of big old sheds grinding something out. Manchester's traditional although shrunken economy is still there and as we have discovered the second largest company in Manchester makes spandex. The sort of fabric still fashionable in many mill towns.

Yeah the ancient textile industry lingers on in parts of the northern quarter/cheetham hill/ardwick. Not in any sheds though, knitwear sweatshops are mostly in old industrial buildings.

Plenty of historic mills lurking on the edge of Manchester.
Whats the problem Awayo?

Not just textiles but there's other heavy industry and engineering, and plenty of it in and around Manchester of a sort that Liverpool doesn't and never has had any great amount of. Boilermaking. Stuff like that. Manchester's white collar employment comes from London.

the real global power is weilded at Unilever House on the Thames' South Bank.

Unilever House is on the north bank of the Thames (and west bank of the Fleet.)

Not just textiles but there's other heavy industry and engineering, and plenty of it in and around Manchester of a sort that Liverpool doesn't and never has had any great amount of. Boilermaking. Stuff like that. Manchester's white collar employment comes from London.

Whatever makes you feel better waysey. Like I said, there was a class of merchants in Manchester when Liverpool was a fishing village.

Many mills allowed the employees to pay the bills.
Dont reply to Awayo, he loves the attention. Thats all he'll be getting on a friday night.
Hes had his time in the limelight.

Not just textiles but there's other heavy industry and engineering, and plenty of it in and around Manchester of a sort that Liverpool doesn't and never has had any great amount of. Boilermaking. Stuff like that. Manchester's white collar employment comes from London.

Open your eyes. Take a deep breath. Look closer to home.

The second wave is coming.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5029/5621329782_932fb77b1b_z.jpg


http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef013480a5bd0b970c-800wi

The latest study of miracle material graphene shows it could be used to provide a much higher speed internet.

Yet another application for the boffin collective's research darling could be high-speed optical communications, which hadn't seemed like a practical application up to now because graphene absorbs so little light, just around 3 per cent.

But now scientists at the Universities of Manchester and Cambridge, including pioneers in the field of graphene research, have come up with a way to improve the substance's capture and conversion of light by sticking two closely-spaced metallic wires on top of it, resulting in an elementary solar cell.

"Such graphene devices can be incredibly fast, tens and potentially hundreds of times faster than communication rates in the fastest internet cables. This is due to the unique nature of electrons in graphene, their high mobility and velocity," the research said.

Since Andre Geim and Konstantin Novoselov discovered graphene at the University of Manchester in 2004, its possibilities as a replacement for silicon, and just about everything else you need to build technology, have spawned thousands of scientific research papers and even a couple of working prototypes. Samsung, in partnership with Sungkyunkwan University in South Korea, has already demonstrated a 25-inch flexible touchscreen using graphene and IBM have shown off a high-speed switching circuit based on graphene.

The material is touted as the thing to power the 21st century because its the strongest stuff ever measured, the thinnest and mightily conductive, as well as being impermeable and pretty darn flexible.

Speaking about this study, Novoselov said: "The technology of graphene production matures day-by-day, which has an immediate impact both on the type of exciting physics which we find in the material and on the feasibility and the range of possible applications."

"Many leading electronics companies consider graphene for the next generation of devices. This work certainly boosts graphene's chances even further," he added.

Geim and Novoselov won the Nobel Prize in Physics last year for their work with graphene. ®

Long after we are all dead, people across the world will talk about Graphene town, and how it once again changed the world.

People from abroad, aren't they?

Trying to claim individual talent for a city is a strange habit.

Brits are too stupid to do anything, ye?

People from abroad, aren't they?

Trying to claim individual talent for a city is a strange habit.

Me?

He's off again.

Me?

He's off again.

Just in general, being from within a few miles of someone who's achieve something doesn't reflect on you.

I suppose regionalism is just as nefarious and bullshit inducing as nationalism in the end. Trying to cram people together and put down other places, at least we can't go to war over it.

That's a general point, before you start wimpering like a bitch JRB.

Just in general, being from within a few miles of someone who's achieve something doesn't reflect on you.

I suppose regionalism is just as nefarious and bullshit inducing as nationalism in the end. Trying to cram people together and put down other places, at least we can't go to war over it.

Exactly! Couldn't have put it better myself.

Heinz Alphabetti Spaghetti anyone?

That's a general point, before you start wimpering like a bitch JRB.

Didn't take long.

Wimpering.

Biatch! Innit!

Albion never disappoints.

Watch what happens next.

Didn't take long.

Wimpering.

Biatch! Innit!

Albion never disappoints.

Watch what happens next.

Heinz Alphabetti Spaghetti anyone?


No offence jrb but you really need to learn how to effectively write what you mean, most of what you post is baffling to say the least.

Meh, who cares.

I just finished watching 28 Days Later. Guess which two UK cities are the only ones featured? London and ...... Pretty awesome shot of Manchester burning in it as well:-

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/11/30/71/11307133_gal.jpg

So, regardless of manufacturing or BBC polls; if you happen to be a zombie, Manchester is second only to London! :D

Meh, who cares.

I just finished watching 28 Days Later. Guess which two UK cities are the only ones featured? London and ...... Pretty awesome shot of Manchester burning in it as well:-

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/11/30/71/11307133_gal.jpg

So, regardless of manufacturing or BBC polls; if you happen to be a zombie, Manchester is second only to London! :D
Pretty awesome shot of Manchester burning in it as well
Hmm i'd like to see that..
only :lol: of course

Pretty awesome shot of Manchester burning in it as well
Hmm i'd like to see that..
only :lol: of course

Er yeah. :)

Is Mike Okane your real name? ;)

course it is voldemort..
you couldn't make it up really
your not gonna send a hitman for me are yer?

course it is voldemort..
you couldn't make it up really
your not gonna send a hitman for me are yer?

Of course I won't. Very clever of your parents, I guess ;)

Er yeah. :)

Is Mike Okane your real name? ;)

Edited to save face and protect identities.

Is ****** your real name? Do you still wear bows in you hair?

Seriously, go away. Because that's creepy and I don't like it.

Go sport - haven't got a clue.


sounds Australian.

Manchester is fucking massive boys.


So were Bernard Manning's skids

Seriously, go away. Because that's creepy and I don't like it.

Just put him on ignore. Many people have.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destination/uk/70297/Manchester-city-break-guide.html

Written by a native.

Posting since it should be done in the interests of free speech and fairness but is it not best done with the fresh eyes of a visitor?

Dunno.

Anyway enjoy.

Wouldn't make me wanna visit. :blahblah: :dunno:

If people are looking for some real city bashing, this website bashes everywhere equally

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Socialist_Republic_of_Scouseland

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Manchester

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Leeds

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Birmingham


I think DiLivio wrote the one for Leeds

"this woman has just been told she was born in Birmingham" lol

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070224203329/uncyclopedia/images/a/ae/%27ham.jpg

The most beautiful woman to come out of Birmingham.. lol ;)

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070814171705/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/b/be/ZombieWoman.jpg/180px-ZombieWoman.jpg

Ha Ha I know, the other where not as bad as Birminghams :( HA HA

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destination/uk/70297/Manchester-city-break-guide.html

Written by a native.

Posting since it should be done in the interests of free speech and fairness but is it not best done with the fresh eyes of a visitor?

Dunno.

Anyway enjoy.



by Cathy Toogood. Toogood to be true?

Meh, who cares.

I just finished watching 28 Days Later. Guess which two UK cities are the only ones featured? London and ...... Pretty awesome shot of Manchester burning in it as well:-

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/11/30/71/11307133_gal.jpg

So, regardless of manufacturing or BBC polls; if you happen to be a zombie, Manchester is second only to London! :D

Funny how Liverpool is still the most filmed city outside of London in this country. T'aww!

Funny how Liverpool is still the most filmed city outside of London in this country. T'aww!

The shot above is actually on a motorway near Milton Keynes. + Most of the actual Manchester shots were filmed at some stately home in one of the Home Counties.

Difference between 'filmed' and 'set in'? I don't know. :)