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Gee that white box is such a monument...not

If they want a monument that is cube shaped and titled "space craft" why not copy the design of a borg cube? At least it would be more exciting. This city really has lack-lustre ambition to do anything noteworthy.

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my thoughts if i may.

Summary
22 hectares in a one km long x 100+m wide strip right on the edge of the cbd of the biggest city in Aust - available in just 2 yrs time.

Opportunity-
awesome opportunity to once and for all fix the office & apartment space issues in the cbd, add a bit of greenspace and build an iconic structure to take Syd into the new millenium.
Even if alot of it has to be low rise because of the area it sits in there should be a cluster of 150m+ towers with CUTTING EDGE looks

Reality-
majority of it will be open space. Rest of it will be a restaurant strip and low rise 15 storey buildings which will be white, beige or grey in colour. Therell be a dodgy looking 'iconic' project whichll cost too much and fall short of expectations which will take years to get off the ground which will make it even more painful.

Clover and Carr should fly to singapore and checkout what theyre doing with their new CBD extension and learn a few things, almost exactly the same situation, 300m+ height limit for that spot in singapore, maybe a limit of 80m in syd ????

that huge white box which i think is inspired by a shipping container just shows how much architects are lacking in the vision to do a descent job. I know its only early but if this was in Melb there would be a flurry of way out creative designs which would get people talking and embrace what was happening, I assure you there would be plenty more than a white box, go and check out Fed Sq or Spencer St station for starters. hmmmmmmmm

im pretty sure the stretch of land has a 50m height limit or 15 storeys. not a place for landmark towers.

im pretty sure the stretch of land has a 50m height limit or 15 storeys. not a place for landmark towers.

enough said, what a shame, anyway im off to checkout wassup in Docklands Melb;) :runaway:

Why not a 300m tower, just because it is close to the water? I can't see any logical reason why not.

there are alot issues such as cityscape . There are heriatge terraces all the way along Hickson road which would loose not onnly views but historical cliff face would be hidden. Also the planners want the "spine" of the city to consist of the tall ones. At the edges -darling harb and Wooloomoolloo the towers have to step down effect. all urban planning issues ect.

i think the perfect Arts bldg to be built at north of site would be something like Darwins House of parliament

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there are alot issues such as cityscape . There are heriatge terraces all the way along Hickson road which would loose not onnly views but historical cliff face would be hidden. Also the planners want the "spine" of the city to consist of the tall ones. At the edges -darling harb and Wooloomoolloo the towers have to step down effect. all urban planning issues ect.

Bugger all that, just build a wall of 200m-300m high apartment buildings like they would in Hong Kong hehehehe

Opportunity-
awesome opportunity to once and for all fix the office & apartment space issues in the cbd, add a bit of greenspace and build an iconic structure to take Syd into the new millenium.
Even if alot of it has to be low rise because of the area it sits in there should be a cluster of 150m+ towers with CUTTING EDGE looks

Reality-
majority of it will be open space. Rest of it will be a restaurant strip and low rise 15 storey buildings which will be white, beige or grey in colour. Therell be a dodgy looking 'iconic' project whichll cost too much and fall short of expectations which will take years to get off the ground which will make it even more painful.

sad but very true
i cant expect any thing of intrest in sydney for such a long time
hardly worth reading this forum. Only because i live here

Perfect Place To Build A Nightclub!

A Floating Nightclub!

best place for night club the harbour bridge !
it already has very cool disco ball

Syd is a "copy and paste" city e.g
Copy: North Ryde
Compress it a bit
Paste: Millers Point

other cities like Melbourne, Berlin and London are CREATING stuff with IMAGINATION.

Syd is a "copy and paste" city e.g
Copy: North Ryde
Compress it a bit
Paste: Millers Point

other cities like Melbourne, Berlin and London are CREATING stuff with IMAGINATION.
WTF? Sydney has some of the great architecture around. just because a large section of land is suddenly made available for developing doent mean skyscrapers can be erected there. theres a time and a place for them. this isnt the place. I love skyscraper, taller the better i reckon, BUT not on this edge of the city. would unbalance the skyline. Sydney's skyline isnt one of the worlds best for nothing. its a delicate balanced work of art. We dont want it to end up like a clusterfuck like many os cities.What ever gets built there will be a worthy additon to the ports and only enhance the views.

Like Culwulla, and probably everyone else on this forum, I love scrapers but one of the things that makes sydney a 'world class' city is public areas particularly in the city and around the harbour. I hope a large proportion of this area is retained for public land but i think it is possible to also have some cutting edge architecture (hopefully it will be cutting edge) and some though provoking public buildings/park/museum/sculpture. If the buildings that go up are more medium height (at best) unimaginative boxes then no thanks. This spot needs something special.

alot of it will also be dedicated to park and plaza areas.

I agree..the simple yet often solution of lets build a 300m tower needs more thought. Many factors such as postion needs to be addressed. I honestly feel that if CBD1 was built the whole skyline would be screwed at present, but that doesnt mean some tall ones could be built responsibly.
I love height to but i value architecture a lot more. Its the design that endures and the height that is 'belittled' in the not so distant future.

would unbalance the skyline.


But surely we NEED a southern partner to pair with Blues Point Tower? /flees

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i hear you and take your point, I never mentioned 300m towers, what i said was there MUST be a chance for a cluster of taller towers / modern cutting desgin there somewhere instead of what will be a MASSIVE area of low rise buildings all of similar heights ( and no doubt designs) interspersed by parks etc.
why couldnt they for example make part of Hixon Rd (?)underground and build a few 120-140m towers against that horrible concrete wall which is just north of that new office and apartment development. this would sort of blend in with the taller towers behind them and line up in a westerly axis with the even taller CBD towers like aapt, Grovsner place, cove etc. they would be set back well and truly from the water and provide a bit of variety of heights down there, otherwise it could look pretty boring especially if its full of stuff like that white box in that news article.

at the end of the day this site has to take a fair whack of office space to help the CBD but if its all low rise stuff then it will be full in no time.

architecture students!!!!!!

ha i reakon if 100 students did it only 4-5 designs would be on par

any more picks of the site??????????????????

Still early days for this site... we should get more designs as it's fully available to Council/developers. I hope there is some open space on this site of the harbour, maybe it could become a focus for some really nice low-rise, cutting edge designs. Let's be realistic people, we ain't gonna get massive highrise (even 100m is out the question) for this site...

It would be cool to get some sort of iconic structure akin to the SOH but on the western side of the CBD. A structure doesn't have to be a sky scraper to be landmark. Maybe we could even get a "Federation Square" type of development? Gulp, are we brave enough to have the vision to accept something like that in Sydney? I would like to think so, but going on past history, I think not.

hopefully

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