^^ i have never ridden a turboprop in my life. :gaah:

^^ i have never ridden a turboprop in my life. :gaah:
I've been in a Fokker 50. :)

^^ Nope. The one-stop flights appear on their booking engine and are bookable. Tickets though have not yet been changed, and I'm flying AMS-MNL in July.

If I'll be forced to stop twice, I'm extremely inclined to ask for my ticket to be changed so I can move to KE or CZ.

I wouldn't be surprised, KLM's already lost a customer with my brother taking SQ instead for his business trip (he's always flown on KLM for Europe trips) to Milan this coming April. Rather than have to take two stops (TPE then AMS), he'll only need one stop at the world's best airport and then it's straight to Milan for him on SQ.

^^ i have never ridden a turboprop in my life. :gaah:

I'm gonna a ride a turboprop tomorrow, ... excited na! hahahah

^^ i have never ridden a turboprop in my life. :gaah:
If you love aviation then you should grab every opportunity to ride one; and with all the airline promos, there has never been a good time like today. Turboprops are the real deal. It combines both luxury and real feel when riding an aircraft. The course deviations are more felt and you are more oriented with your surroundings, notwithstanding the fact that the power of the engines are more pronounced at different stages of the flight. The jets are good if you just want to ride and enjoy the cabin then sleep. Of course, not much choice if you end up in the third aisle seat of the airbus. I started liking aviation since I was 5yrs old when I rode PALs DC-3. The HS-748 came next, then the Fokker 50, SD-360 then the Beech1900Cs. There is "more fun in the Philippines"! With other newer types like the Qs and the ATRs. You can still taste classics like the YS, LET410s or a Chinese MA60s. Here's a more exciting one from Midsea Express, a Jetstream 31. So go ahead and don't be scared to make your day!

If you love aviation then you should grab every opportunity to ride one; and with all the airline promos, there has never been a good time like today. Turboprops are the real deal. It combines both luxury and real feel when riding an aircraft. The course deviations are more felt and you are more oriented with your surroundings, notwithstanding the fact that the power of the engines are more pronounced at different stages of the flight. The jets are good if you just want to ride and enjoy the cabin then sleep. Of course, not much choice if you end up in the third aisle seat of the airbus. I started liking aviation since I was 5yrs old when I rode PALs DC-3. The HS-748 came next, then the Fokker 50, SD-360 then the Beech1900Cs. There is "more fun in the Philippines"! With other newer types like the Qs and the ATRs. You can still taste classics like the YS, LET410s or a Chinese MA60s. Here's a more exciting one from Midsea Express, a Jetstream 31. So go ahead and don't be scared to make your day!
:lol: true, more air pockets more fun.

I love watching his videos. Here is one of his flight reviews: Philippine Airlines Singapore - Manila. :)

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^cute. nakaka-excite naman umuwi ulit nung nag announce na naglanding

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Of all the Airport with International Standard in the Philippines probably our Airport is the Smallest with least Budget BUT HAS A MARKET VALUE! Kudos Kalibo International Airport! small but Incredible.

^^
Yes indeed! Many thanks to Boracay. :) :cheers:

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:pepper::pepper::pepper::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:Really nice shots Aerolineas ! At last we have photos of all the international flights and a shot of the full apron at Kalibo International !! SALAMAT PO !!
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^^
Yes indeed! Many thanks to Boracay. :) :cheers:

:lol::lol::lol:

Guess if airbus or boeing chttp://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/P1010104.jpgabin and what type?

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/P1011627.jpgAirbus A319 versus E190, which one is which?

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/122.jpgenjoy the turboprops!

Guess if airbus or boeing chttp://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/P1010104.jpgabin and what type?

^^this is 757.

:lol::lol::lol:
I Totally Understand what you laugh out loud JEFFjr I :banana::banana:
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Yes indeed! Many thanks to Boracay. :) :cheers:
Thank You! :rock::rock:
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I Totally Understand what you laugh out loud JEFFjr I :banana::banana:


Thats what you call , Thinkers are doers . ;) :lol: :cheers:

^^this is 757.
Sorry no, manufacturer is right but not the type. There is a clue near the forward section of the cabin, good luck!

Lucio Tan confirms PAL for sale

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/01/22/12/lucio-tan-confirms-pal-sale

MANILA, Philippines - Tycoon Lucio Tan has finally confirmed that he is selling Philippine Airlines (PAL), the country’s flag carrier, “at the right price.”

Tan, chairman and chief executive officer of PAL, acknowledged he was talking to the top executives of conglomerate San Miguel Corp. and Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT) for the possible sale of the struggling flagship carrier.

“Both are my friends,” Tan said in an interview with reporters on Friday, during the annual reception of the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas for the banking community.

He was referring to San Miguel’s top honcho Ramon S. Ang and PLDT Chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan.

Tan said he has “not yet decided” how much of the flag carrier would be sold.

Rumors circulating the business community said Ang and Pangilinan were ready to infuse $1 billion to buy part of PAL Holdings, which has been denying buy-in talks since last year.

PAL is 94 percent owned by PAL Holdings Inc., led by Tan.

In September, Ang said he was merely giving business and strategy advice to Tan, whom he considers a close friend.

Ang had also clarified he was in direct talks with Tan but in a personal capacity, and not as president of San Miguel.

Rumors on Pangilinan’s plan to acquire the flag carrier, on the other hand, circulated after PLDT and Metro Pacific Investment Corp. set up the Pacific Global One Aviation Inc. Pangilinan chairs both companies, as well as Philex Mining Corp., Manila Electric Co. and Metro Pacific Tollways Corp.

But Pangilinan has reportedly decided not to push through with the bid, saying the acquisition into PAL would raise a conflict-of-interest issue with his business partner John Gokongwei, who owns Cebu Pacific.

PLDT last year bought 98 percent of the Gokong*wei-owned Digital Communications Phils. Inc. (Digitel) for about P69.2 billion.

Of the 36 aircraft currently in the PAL fleet, five are Boeing 747-400s that were purchased during the carrier’s first refleeting program more than two decades ago.

PAL earlier admitted it may face difficulties if it continues the refleeting program on its own.

Other than the five B747s, PAL’s fleet also includes two B777-300ER, four Airbus 340-300, eight A330-300, 13 A320-200, and four A320-319.

The company is expecting a net loss in its fiscal year 2011—April 1, 2011-March 31, 2012—a reversal of the $72.5-million profit recorded in FY 2010.

Sorry no, manufacturer is right but not the type. There is a clue near the forward section of the cabin, good luck!



737-800?

737-800?
Congratulations, you must be a fan of Boeing to know this. Its a WestJet 787-800, had the best ride on a 3 on 3 twin jet. I find it more spacious than the airbus. Any explanation why APX and 5j didn't get this? Must be the cost but Lion Air went for Boeing though.

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/P1011627.jpgAirbus A319 versus E190, which one is which?

The TACA plane is an E190 .. :D

And in post 916, too is an E190 :D of Mandarin Airlines ..


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Congratulations, you must be a fan of Boeing to know this. Its a WestJet 787-800, had the best ride on a 3 on 3 twin jet. I find it more spacious than the airbus. Any explanation why APX and 5j didn't get this? Must be the cost but Lion Air went for Boeing though.

The interios space depends a lot on the interior fit .. I have been on a Comfortable 737-600, and also a cramped 737-400 ..

So it is for Airbus ..

Most LCCs opt for Airbus, for ease of operation, crew commonality and a lot more .. including low startup costs ..

Lionair went for Boeings for the same reason, as they have been operating Boeings and they got good deals from the "MEGA" order book .. though only time will tell how many of the order will see fruition .. :D

Lucio Tan confirms PAL for sale

Tycoon Lucio Tan has finally confirmed that he is selling Philippine Airlines (PAL), the country’s flag carrier, “at the right price.”

Tan, chairman and chief executive officer of PAL, acknowledged he was talking to the top executives of conglomerate San Miguel Corp. and Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT) for the possible sale of the struggling flagship carrier.

Full story here (Lucio Tan confirms PAL for sale)

Lucio Tan confirms PAL for sale



Full story here (http://Lucio%20Tan%20confirms%20PAL%20for%20sale)
:cripes::cripes::cripes::cry:

:cripes::cripes::cripes::cry:

hey, maybe it's all for the best. with a new management, a new PAL could be born, i hope. :)

hey, maybe it's all for the best. with a new management, a new PAL could be born, i hope. :)

what i have in mind. and i agree. hope for a better management and a better PAL.

The interios space depends a lot on the interior fit .. I have been on a Comfortable 737-600, and also a cramped 737-400 ..

So it is for Airbus ..

Most LCCs opt for Airbus, for ease of operation, crew commonality and a lot more .. including low startup costs ..

Lionair went for Boeings for the same reason, as they have been operating Boeings and they got good deals from the "MEGA" order book .. though only time will tell how many of the order will see fruition .. :D
Seating configuration is one thing but headrooms can matter. I'm comparing a standard A320 as against a 737-800. The interior shaping relative to the headroom really makes a difference. Its true that the pitch of airbus is the glass cockpit commonality for easier crew transition but Boeing's 737 family is the same, well, at least the NG series. As far as I know, fuel efficiency is still much better than the airbus but its the acquisition that can be more costly, perhaps its georaphically dependent as well.

The interios space depends a lot on the interior fit .. I have been on a Comfortable 737-600, and also a cramped 737-400 ..

So it is for Airbus ..

Most LCCs opt for Airbus, for ease of operation, crew commonality and a lot more .. including low startup costs ..

Lionair went for Boeings for the same reason, as they have been operating Boeings and they got good deals from the "MEGA" order book .. though only time will tell how many of the order will see fruition .. :D
Indonesias love affair with American planes is still hot. Now they are getting 4 C130H decomissioned by the Australians. Its free, but not the upgrades which will cost $25M or 1.125billion pesos. Enough for a new domestic airport. Would have been good for the PAF, 1 each for Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, the 4th one is for back-up. Anyways, Lockheed is developing a stripped version of the "J" called C130XJ, its supposed to be cheaper and affordable to other countries who cant have the standard one.

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^^ Boeing 737-200, Bombardier Dash-8 100, Bombardier CRJ 100/200.

extra fact : the B737-200 is wearing a gravel kit.

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Any News? Nice Livery.

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are all of Spirit of Manila's fleet brand new? Pretty impressive for a starting airline company! :)

are all of Spirit of Manila's fleet brand new? Pretty impressive for a starting airline company! :)

No they are not...

^^ Boeing 737-200, Bombardier Dash-8 100, Bombardier CRJ 100/200.

extra fact : the B737-200 is wearing a gravel kit.
Good answer! This rare 737-200 is sometimes chartered to rough airstrips up north hence the extra armour!

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Must be a leased 744 for MiddleEast charter. Were all puzzled with this airline, at one point, they were doing a lot of photo ops for their base in Clark. Nothing has been heard since. Perhaps this is one of the starters that is getting scrutiny from CAAP. Like the director said, their data base is now linked with FAA so they can't afford anymore missteps in certifying airlines like this!

Gokongwei Group eyes 4 airport projects

The Gokongwei Group’s JG Summit Holdings Inc. said it is interested in four airport projects the government plans to bid out under its Public Private Partnership (PPP) program.

In a chance interview with reporters, JG Summit president and chief operating officer Lance Gokongwei said the company is set to look into the terms of reference for the four airport projects up for bidding under the Aquino administration’s flagship infrastructure program.

These are the P4.6-billion Puerto Princesa Airport; the P8.7-billion Laguindingan Airport development in Cagayan de Oro; the P6.6-billion New Legaspi Airport development and the P2.5-billion Mactan-Cebu International Airport terminal building expansion.

“We have to look at the terms of reference. We have to consider the bid terms. We haven’t done that,” Gokongwei said.

He said even Terminal 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) would be considered if the government puts this on the auction block.

“We will consider that, too,” Gokongwei said.

Full story here (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/01/23/12/gokongwei-group-eyes-4-airport-projects)

Congratulations, you must be a fan of Boeing to know this. Its a WestJet 787-800, had the best ride on a 3 on 3 twin jet. I find it more spacious than the airbus. Any explanation why APX and 5j didn't get this? Must be the cost but Lion Air went for Boeing though.

It's said that Airbus offers more favorable financing options to airlines compared to Boeing, which makes Airbus products like the A320 series lighter on the pocket for airlines to acquire.

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^^Nice! ..as per wikipedia update: All Spirit of Manila flights are currently cancelled. Operations are expected to resume in early 2012.

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wow nice! spirit of manila is back again with big bird B747 :banana: which means they will resume their middle east flight?

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Is this photoshopped ? I can´t really believe they did get a 747 !

^^ i have never ridden a turboprop in my life. :gaah:

CebuPac ATR-72, Asian Spirit YS-11 and PAF C-130 :cheers:

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Is this B737[___] in KLO

^^ 800 series that's the only 737 passenger version they currently operate

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/

San Miguel Buys into PAL
To infuse US $1 Billion for Fleet Expansion

January 24, 2012



Food and beverage giant San Miguel Corporation has agreed to buy shares of PAL Holdings and finance the refleeting and modernization program of Philippine Airlines. PAL Holdings directly owns 81.57% of Philippine Airlines.

The deal includes budget carrier Airphil Express, its low cost subsidiary.

San Miguel offered $500 million in cash and another $500 million in equity infusion in exchange for a 49-percent stake in both PAL and Airphil, but secures management control of the two airlines.

A disclosure to the Philippine Stock Exchange said San Miguel Corporation would increase the capitalization of PAL and its low cost subsidiary to buy new aircraft.

PAL Holdings Chief Finance Officer Susan Lee confirmed to the stock exchange investments by San Miguel in PAL Holdings.

The plan calls for the purchase of 12 medium sized long-ranged planes either from Airbus or Boeing, with Airline engineers taking a closer look and evaluation at the Airbus 350-900 planes which order is scheduled to be announced before the end of the year. First aircraft delivery is scheduled to take place in March 2016.

"Wide-bodied aircraft are needed. You need to pay delivery fees. That’s where the cash is needed,” Airline President Jaime Bautista said.

San Miguel is currently holding due diligence audit with the airline which is expected to be finish next week. Joint announcement is expected on the next General Assembly Meeting in April.

As a result of San Miguel investment, Lucio Tan would remain chairman of PAL with San Miguel President Ramon Ang, as its Chief Executive Officer. PAL president Jaime Bautista will remain Chief Operating Officer.

PAL Holdings operates a fleet of 51 aircraft and 22 on orders as of March 2011.

^^ at bumigay din si SanMig. haha. :banana:

purchase of 12 medium sized long-ranged planes can't wait for this to happen.

^^
Luv ko na si San Miguel...:) :banana: :cheers:

I just wonder what aircraft those 22 orders are for ? 4 777´s coming in this and next year, 4 A 320s this year and what else ? More A 320s for 2P ?

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/

San Miguel Buys into PAL
To infuse US $1 Billion for Fleet Expansion

January 24, 2012

The plan calls for the purchase of 12 medium sized long-ranged planes either from Airbus or Boeing, with Airline engineers taking a closer look and evaluation at the Airbus 350-900 planes which order is scheduled to be announced before the end of the year. First aircraft delivery is scheduled to take place in March 2016.

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inuman na. :cheers:

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/

San Miguel Buys into PAL
To infuse US $1 Billion for Fleet Expansion

January 24, 2012

Interesting but there is no official news or a link to anything official here.

^^ at bumigay din si SanMig. haha. :banana:

purchase of 12 medium sized long-ranged planes can't wait for this to happen.
Sana ang KIA I-Privatized na rin San Miguel para Fair sa Caticlan.

Manila Bullitin today :

MANILA, Philippines — Airphil Express announced it will be boosting its fleet with three new Airbus 320s. The acquisition is seen to enhance its continuously expanding routes, which now totals to 27 regular flights to various points in the country.

“The additional aircraft will back our growing operations in the country,” explains Alfredo Herrera, Senior Vice President for Marketing and Sales. “Flyers can look forward to a more enjoyable yet budget-friendly travels in the comforts of these brand-new carriers,” he said.

The 180-seater spacious cabin is several inches larger than its competitor.

Coupled with wider seats, the new Airbus 320 offers unparalleled comfort to its passengers. It also has wider aisle which affords faster boarding and bigger space for carry-on luggage. The innovations and technology of Airbus 320 enable it to fly at longer flight distance with lesser fuel consumption. This feature poses mutual benefits since it translates to increased revenue for the airline and more affordable fares for its passengers.

One of the three new planes is scheduled to arrive this week, while two other Airbus A320s are set to arrive before the end of January 2012.

The acquisition of three new Airbus 320s early this year brings the total number of its A320s to eleven.

With three Q300s and five Q400s also in operation, the current fleet of Airphil Express has now reached 19, with the company aiming to increase its fleet size further to be able to beef up its operations and ensure convenient flights daily to more local destinations throughout the country.

Additional flights and routes will soon be inaugurated this year to serve the Dumaguete, General Santos, Iloilo, Dipolog, Puerto Princesa and Butuan markets by way of Cebu (and v.v.) while additional daily services will also be included in the airline’s flights to Kalibo, Puerto Princesa, Tacloban and Cebu, all coming from Manila. Its Cebu-Davao, Cebu-Cagayan De Oro and Zamboanga-Tawi-Tawi as well as its Cebu-Zamboanga routes will also see additional daily and weekly services, respectively.

Airphil Express has gained patronage among budget-conscious travelers with its frequent Express Sales, which offers ultra-discounted fares for featured destinations within a certain time period. Its most recent promo is the Dragon Express Sale which allows customers to fly to any Airphil Express routes in Luzon from Manila; from Busuanga to Puerto Princesa and; all destinations to and from Cebu, Davao and Zamboanga (and v.v.) for only P488.

Airphil Express currently has daily scheduled local trips to 27 destinations. They also serve the Manila-Singapore and Cebu-Hong Kong international routes.

Manila Bullitin today :
Bombardier sets goal for 40 CSeries buyers by 2013 debut
By FREDERIC TOMESCO (Bloomberg)
January 24, 2012, 3:07pm
MANILA, Philippines — Bombardier Inc. wants to sign up about 40 customers for its CSeries jets by the time the aircraft enters service at the end of next year, Senior Vice President Chet Fuller said.

Swiss charter carrier PrivatAir on Tuesday became the 11th customer to place a firm order for the CSeries, agreeing to buy five aircraft and take options for another five. Montreal-based Bombardier now has 138 firm orders for the plane, compared with its target of 300 by the end of 2013.

“Geographic diversity and customer diversity is what’s going to cause this aircraft to be successful as fast as possible in the early years,” Fuller, who leads Bombardier’s commercial sales and marketing group, said in a telephone interview from the Bahrain air show. “Our goal is to move toward 40 customers, which is where the aircraft becomes an asset.”

Bombardier has said it expects the CSeries, which will come in 110- and 145-passenger versions, (could this be the plane AirPhilEX is considering to purchase??) to be a key contributor in almost doubling revenue in the next decade. The new planes, the larger of which is due in 2014, would generate $5 billion to $8 billion annually toward the target, Chief Executive Officer Pierre Beaudoin told investors Dec. 6. Bombardier posted sales of $14 billion in the nine months through Oct. 31.

In addition to the firm orders, the company has booked options, purchase rights and letters of intent for an additional 179 CSeries planes.

Bombardier is in discussions with more than 70 potential customers about the CSeries, and the plane has met with “broad” interest in the Middle East, Fuller said. Talks are continuing with Qatar Airways Ltd., which has said it would consider buying the aircraft, he said.

“We’ve met with just about every single carrier in the region and there’s been a really strong response,” Fuller said. “The Middle East in particular is a region that has a strong desire to have a premium product. They immediately see the possibility of a wide-body product in a narrow-body plane.”

Last time I always get to watch Cebu Pacific and Spirit of Manila Airlines take-off from DMIA but now, it's Cebu Pacific and SEAIR.

Sana ang KIA I-Privatized na rin San Miguel para Fair sa Caticlan.

sana sana sana nga. KIA deserves better, that's a fact.

Business Mirror, today

Cebu Pacific borrows $160M to finance airplane purchases
TUESDAY, 24 JANUARY 2012 19:22 LENIE LECTURA / REPORTER
CEBU Air Inc., operator of low-cost carrier Cebu Pacific, has borrowed $150 million to $160 million from foreign banks to partly finance the acquisition of four new Airbus aircraft that will be delivered this year.

“We borrowed because we are taking four planes this year. We are borrowing around 85 percent, probably $150 million to $160 million. We signed up with banks but they are guaranteed with credit export and import agencies,” said Cebu Pacific Ppresident Lance Gokongwei.

The airline is taking delivery four Airbus A320s this year. Two will arrive in March, one in September and another in November.

Cebu Pacific said 2011 was a “difficult year” for the aviation industry because airlines had to cope with spiraling jet fuel prices. “We will have our profits reduced in 2011 primarily due to higher oil prices. We do expect though to show a healthy profit and still be one of the most profitable low-cost carriers in the entire world,” said Gokongwei.

The listed airline unit of JG Summit will book double-digit revenues for 2011, added Gokongwei. “We will report our financials on February 15. We expect to post higher passenger volume this year. Our revenues for 2011 were higher than in 2010.”

The budget carrier has set a target to serve 14 million passengers this year from an actual count of 11.94 million passengers in 2011. It flew 9.22 million domestic passengers, or an increase of 12 percent from 8.23 million in 2010. The growth was attributed to cheaper fares, increase in seat capacity as new Airbus A320 units were utilized, and additional flights to key destinations.

Last year’s load factor stood at was 88 percent, two percentage points higher than in 2010 and also two points higher than the industry’s average load factor last year for both domestic and international routes. Load factor refers to how full the flights are.

This year, Cebu Pacific will operate more routes and will add more frequencies to serve the growing demand.

Gokongwei noted that JG Summit, the parent firm of Cebu Pacific, is interested to participate in the Public-Private-Partnership program of the Aquino administration, particularly when it auctions airport facilities.

“JG Summit is looking at all [infrastructure] projects. Our keen interest is on the airport side...it’s an area we are familiar with. We have to look at the terms of reference for the Puerto Princesa, Bohol, Mactan and Cagayan de Oro,” added Gokongwei.

Sana A350 ang bibilhin ng San Mig sa PAL

^^ The A350 might be a little too much airplane, but if 787 production will continue to be hounded by delays, then I don't see why not.

^^ The A350 might be a little too much airplane, but if 787 production will continue to be hounded by delays, then I don't see why not.
The A350 has already lost its middle east customers. Airbus is desperate since the 787, although plug by delays itself, has already started its commercial flight courtesy of ANA. If the rich airlines will not risk it, then not a chance for PAL. They still have to make good revenue with their 77W....and for that, good luck this coming evaluation for CAT 1.

Will Etihad bring the jumbo jet to Manila? :)

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Etihad declares Manila busiest route
Third busiest for its route Network

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2012/01/etihad-declares-manila-busiest-route.html

January 23, 2012

UAE - Abu Dhabi based Etihad Airways disclosed Manila to be one of the airline's busiest route sector next to London and Bangkok as it recorded 8.29 million passengers flown in 2011, a 17 percent increase from the previous year.


The airline carried more than 500,000 passengers to and from the Thai capital followed by London (479,000), and Manila (446,000). The fourth on the list is Jeddah (289,000) representing a staggering 48-percent increase over 2010 figures followed by Sydney, Frankfurt, Paris, Manchester, Doha and Dublin to complete the list of the 10 most popular routes.

“This result, achieved while much of the world was still very much in the economic doldrums and oil prices remained high, is testament to our emergence as a formidable force in the international aviation arena,” Etihad Airways president and chief executive officer James Hogan said.

The jump represented an extra 1.197 million passengers on the carrier’s global network covering 82 passenger and cargo destinations.

Etihad Crystal Cargo also enjoyed similar growth registering 310, 000 tons, 18 percent more than in 2010.

“In cargo, the strongest growth was seen out of Europe as exports from markets such as Germany and Italy held firm during a challenging back half of the year,” Hogan said.

“We launched freighter services into Amsterdam, Cairo, Djibouti, Kabul and Kandahar during the year, increased operations to our key markets of China and India while growing Johannesburg by up to three freighters a week. A priority product Fast-Track was launched offering shorter transit time and expedited delivery as well as a guaranteed service delivery. Expanded trucking schedules within the UAE and new service to points in the GCC region provided more solutions for customers,” he said.

Etihad operates double daily schedule out of Manila using its biggest plane, the Boeing 777-300ER. It plans to launch flight direct to Cebu this year together with another gulf Airline. Only Qatar airways serve the port of Cebu.

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/utf-8BSU1HMDA0NzYtMjAxMjAxMjQtMTIzOS5qcGc.jpgwho says Airbus designed the first double decker?http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/utf-8BSU1HMDA0NzctMjAxMjAxMjQtMTI0MC5qcGc.jpgbattle of the heavy weights, sorry, quick shots while reading!

^^ The A350 might be a little too much airplane, but if 787 production will continue to be hounded by delays, then I don't see why not.
In the meantime, here's what the neighbour - "Lion Air" is getting:
201 - 737Max
29 - 737-900ERs
150 - purchase rights options!
Boeing power in Indonesia!

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Stop-Look-Listen RUNWAY Crossing Villager at Loakan Airport Baguio City Taken last April 2011

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Stop-Look-Listen RUNWAY Crossing Villager at Loakan Airport Baguio City Taken last April 2011
Just what the tourism slogan says "its more fun in the Philippines"!, there's not even a pedestrian and vehicle traffic paint to contain them. I believe the airport is still open for civil traffic but not commercial flights. What's the fate of this airport now?

^^ Sky Pasada flies there very early in the morning, and after that I believe there are no more flights for the day.

The following airlines will be back to Manila this year: [True or False]

Garuda Indonesia
British Airways
Vietnam Airlines
Lufthansa
Egypt Air


New Airlines to launch this year:
Turkish Airlines
Jet Airways
China Eastern Airlines
Air New Zealand
South African Airways

^^ I wish it's all true. More airlines, more choices = more travelers to the country.

Gokongwei Group eyes 4 airport projects
By Iris C. Gonzales, The Philippine Star
Posted at 01/24/2012 7:25 AM | Updated as of 01/24/2012 12:08 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The Gokongwei Group’s JG Summit Holdings Inc. said it is interested in four airport projects the government plans to bid out under its Public Private Partnership (PPP) program.

In a chance interview with reporters, JG Summit president and chief operating officer Lance Gokongwei said the company is set to look into the terms of reference for the four airport projects up for bidding under the Aquino administration’s flagship infrastructure program.

These are the P4.6-billion Puerto Princesa Airport; the P8.7-billion Laguindingan Airport development in Cagayan de Oro; the P6.6-billion New Legaspi Airport development and the P2.5-billion Mactan-Cebu International Airport terminal building expansion.

“We have to look at the terms of reference. We have to consider the bid terms. We haven’t done that,” Gokongwei said.

He said even Terminal 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) would be considered if the government puts this on the auction block.

“We will consider that, too,” Gokongwei said.

Cebu Pacific, the conglomerate’s airline unit, operates at NAIA Terminal 3.

The government earlier announced plans to privatize the operation and maintenance of the NAIA Terminal 3 and the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark.Other airport-related ventures include the P9.9-billion New Zamboanga Airport development; the P6.9-billion Panglao Airport; P5.5-billion Laoag International Airport upgrading; P4.7-billion Alaminos Airport development and the P3-billion City Air Terminal Development for Clark International Airport.

Gokongwei said they expect to receive P8 billion in recurring income from their core operating businesses and investments by 2012.

He said the holding firm would continue to post strong growth and cash-generating abilities.

JG Summit, he said, is expected to receive cash dividends amounting to $58 million from Universal Robina Corp. (URC), its food and beverage unit; $28 million from budget carrier Cebu Pacific; $21 million from property subsidiary Robinsons Land Corp. and $12 million from international investment arm United Industrial Corp. Ltd.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/01/23/12/gokongwei-group-eyes-4-airport-projects

The A350 has already lost its middle east customers. Airbus is desperate since the 787, although plug by delays itself, has already started its commercial flight courtesy of ANA. If the rich airlines will not risk it, then not a chance for PAL. They still have to make good revenue with their 77W....and for that, good luck this coming evaluation for CAT 1.

While Etihad did cancel 6 orders for the A350, they merely trimmed down the number of A350's they had on order (19 instead of 25) so Airbus didn't "lose a customer" per se. Either way Airbus isn't desperate as Cathay Pacific did order 6 A350's soon after Etihad's cancellation so that evens it out for Airbus:cheers:


who says Airbus designed the first double decker?
Airbus never claimed having designed the first double decker, McDonnell Douglas (before their merger with Boeing) also had a double deck design with the proposed MD-12. However, Airbus is the first to have a double deck aircraft design that went into production as both Boeing and McDonnell Douglas' double deck ideas were merely design studies that didn't get past the proposal stage.

It's said that Airbus offers more favorable financing options to airlines compared to Boeing, which makes Airbus products like the A320 series lighter on the pocket for airlines to acquire.

Not exactly true ..

Boeing too offers 'exceptionally low interest' loans, through various US congress backed systems, like the "SAVE THE JOBS" scheme, which leads to sales like the Lionair deal

Quoting a Boeing LAME/rep, his take was simple: unlike US, in Europe, you cannot fire people, so companies like Airbus are forced to produce, as the cost of layoff is so great .. hence the local countries where parts are made / assembled (Spain, UK, France, Germany) end up subsidising the manufacturing cost till it is cheaper for Airbus to sell at low costs .. and the partner countries are eager to finance the sales than see people jobless .. hence their often seen success in LCC market

Now, the above guy is an American, and I didn't have the heart to tell him that the same applies to US too, where states do subsidise and offer incentives for manufacturing in their respective states ..

Oh well, according to Boeing, Airbus will never exist without Govt subsidies. According to Airbus, same applies, though the USA covers their tracks nicely by awarding hyper inflated military contracts to Boeing .. as well as strict "BY BOEING ONLY" orders for any military sale of planes .. :D

The following airlines will be back to Manila this year: [True or False]

Garuda Indonesia
British Airways
Vietnam Airlines
Lufthansa
Egypt Air


New Airlines to launch this year:
Turkish Airlines
Jet Airways
China Eastern Airlines
Air New Zealand
South African Airways

Of those listed, the only ones that would most likely start service to Manila are Garuda, Vietnam, Turkish, Jet and China Eastern.

All the others are most definitely False as Manila (and the Philippines in general) is just too low-yielding a destination for airlines to mount costly long haul flights. In addition, NZ/MS/LH/SA and BA already have Star and OneWorld (respectively) partners that can effectively let them serve Manila via convenient Asian hubs (BKK, SIN, ICN, NRT, HKG).

Airbus is beating the cr@p out of Boeing in 2011 orders and deliveries...

Of those listed, the only ones that would most likely start service to Manila are Garuda, Vietnam, Turkish, Jet and China Eastern.

All the others are most definitely False as Manila (and the Philippines in general) is just too low-yielding a destination for airlines to mount costly long haul flights. In addition, NZ/MS/LH/SA and BA already have Star and OneWorld (respectively) partners that can effectively let them serve Manila via convenient Asian hubs (BKK, SIN, ICN, NRT, HKG).

add another Asian LCC, which is claiming to start flights to MNL in March or April ..

CAB: PH carriers banned from expanding flights to S. Korea
By: Paolo G. Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Local airlines have been banned from expanding operations in South Korea, according to the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB).
Seoul reportedly took its cue from the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which imposed a similar ban on the Philippines due to the country’s out-of-date safety regulations.
Civil Aeronautics Board executive director Carmelo Arcilla said the South Korean government last month junked an application by AirPhil Express to launch flights to Incheon, gateway to the Seoul capital.

CONTINUE READING HERE (http://business.inquirer.net/41291/cab-ph-carriers-banned-from-expanding-flights-to-s-korea)

Etihad operates double daily schedule out of Manila using its biggest plane, the Boeing 777-300ER. It plans to launch flight direct to Cebu this year together with another gulf Airline. Only Qatar airways serve the port of Cebu


Wow! looking forward for Etihad direct flight to Cebu :banana:

CAB: PH carriers banned from expanding flights to S. Korea

late reaction naman 'to sila....pathetic.

Wow! looking forward for Etihad direct flight to Cebu :banana:

:okay: Niceee! :D

CAB: PH carriers banned from expanding flights to S. Korea
By: Paolo G. Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Local airlines have been banned from expanding operations in South Korea, according to the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB).
Seoul reportedly took its cue from the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which imposed a similar ban on the Philippines due to the country’s out-of-date safety regulations.
Civil Aeronautics Board executive director Carmelo Arcilla said the South Korean government last month junked an application by AirPhil Express to launch flights to Incheon, gateway to the Seoul capital.

CONTINUE READING HERE (http://business.inquirer.net/41291/cab-ph-carriers-banned-from-expanding-flights-to-s-korea)

late reaction naman 'to sila....pathetic.

But existing flights will not be affected, even after the FAA ban. Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific, the country’s two top carriers, have flights to South Korea.

But existing flights will not be affected, even after the FAA ban. Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific, the country’s two top carriers, have flights to South Korea.

Still there will be a flat growth regarding tourist arrivals from S. Korea.. remeber South koreans are the #1 foreign tourists flying to the philippines more than the brown filipino-americans from USA

Not exactly true ..

Boeing too offers 'exceptionally low interest' loans, through various US congress backed systems, like the "SAVE THE JOBS" scheme, which leads to sales like the Lionair deal

Quoting a Boeing LAME/rep, his take was simple: unlike US, in Europe, you cannot fire people, so companies like Airbus are forced to produce, as the cost of layoff is so great .. hence the local countries where parts are made / assembled (Spain, UK, France, Germany) end up subsidising the manufacturing cost till it is cheaper for Airbus to sell at low costs .. and the partner countries are eager to finance the sales than see people jobless .. hence their often seen success in LCC market

Now, the above guy is an American, and I didn't have the heart to tell him that the same applies to US too, where states do subsidise and offer incentives for manufacturing in their respective states ..

Oh well, according to Boeing, Airbus will never exist without Govt subsidies. According to Airbus, same applies, though the USA covers their tracks nicely by awarding hyper inflated military contracts to Boeing .. as well as strict "BY BOEING ONLY" orders for any military sale of planes .. :D
Well, Airbus almost got the tanker contract until congress cried foul. Naturally, that comes in a time when the production line is running low. Sales and marketing is one thing, if price is even, will airlines prefer the 737NG or the A320?....let the debate begin!

Still there will be a flat growth regarding tourist arrivals from S. Korea.. remeber South koreans are the #1 foreign tourists flying to the philippines more than the brown filipino-americans from USA
If statistics prove that then the Koreans simply found a loophole to guarantee their airlines will not get competition from the Philippine carriers. Isn't that Jeju Air posted here flying into Kalibo a Korean brand? I hope China will not do the same as they have the tendency to impose their pride, maybe not, knowing they are trying to sell their MA6OO, the latest version of the one Zest Air is using.

sucks....Philippine always get the loose end of the bargain.China may do these do. due to all these problems and circumstances.

I suppose they don't want competition from Philippine carriers. If PH does retaliate and not allow Korean carrier to expand then Philippines still loose because it may result in less Korean tourist. It cannot be denied that they are one if not the biggest foreign tourist arrivals.
in the country.

In a way it is unfair but still not an excuse to turn things around.

Its more fun in the Philippines.
:ohno:

maybe they'll lift the ban after the FAA audit is through and RP is reinstated back to Cat 1. after all, that downgrade is the root of all evil :lol:

Airbus never claimed having designed the first double decker, McDonnell Douglas (before their merger with Boeing) also had a double deck design with the proposed MD-12. However, Airbus is the first to have a double deck aircraft design that went into production as both Boeing and McDonnell Douglas' double deck ideas were merely design studies that didn't get past the proposal stage.

^^ not quite. Boeing is still the first to have a double decker aircraft. their ideas actually got past proposal stage, and is now flying for more than 40 years, commonly known as the 747.

^^
If statistics prove that then the Koreans simply found a loophole to guarantee their airlines will not get competition from the Philippine carriers. Isn't that Jeju Air posted here flying into Kalibo a Korean brand? I hope China will not do the same as they have the tendency to impose their pride, maybe not, knowing they are trying to sell their MA6OO, the latest version of the one Zest Air is using.

In fairness to Korea, they do have a point. And the Philippines, for all intent and purposes is twisting the simple rule. Fly but don't leave and you get to retain the grandfather rights. Leave and abandon your right. Simple as that. Its the same rule that makes PAL fly in the US despite CAT 2.

Now, the legit question is, did Air Philippines fly to South Korea?

Fly, no. Flew yes. And there lies the difference. If the Philippines cannot give what United wants, then there is no reason to force Korea to reconsider.

Again, simple as that.

^^


In fairness to Korea, they do have a point. And the Philippines, for all intent and purposes is twisting the simple rule. Fly but don't leave and you get to retain the grandfather rights. Leave and abandon your right. Simple as that. Its the same rule that makes PAL fly in the US despite CAT 2.

Now, the legit question is, did Air Philippines fly to South Korea?

Fly, no. Flew yes. And there lies the difference. If the Philippines cannot give what United wants, then there is no reason to force Korea to reconsider.

Again, simple as that.
So they did fly?, I thought it was a technical stop for the classic 732s. Didn't bother to get more into as I thought the technologically advanced Koreans used to flying the NG series which are plenty there won't be attracted to this. Maybe it wasn't attractive to the Filipino overseas workers as well.

As airlines have franchises, they do operate a simple rule on flying rights.
Use it or lose it.

sucks....Philippine always get the loose end of the bargain.China may do these do. due to all these problems and circumstances.

I suppose they don't want competition from Philippine carriers. If PH does retaliate and not allow Korean carrier to expand then Philippines still loose because it may result in less Korean tourist. It cannot be denied that they are one if not the biggest foreign tourist arrivals.
in the country.

In a way it is unfair but still not an excuse to turn things around.

Its more fun in the Philippines.
:ohno:

It may be unfair, but retaliating against Korean carriers will be counter productive, I hate to say this but we need them more than they need us. Don't forget that it's us (the Philippines) that's in the wrong after all with a downgraded safety classification, so until we get back FAA Cat. 1 and unbanned from the EU, we can't complain about being restricted by other countries such as South Korea. Retaliating against them would be a case of "tayo na nga ang may kasalanan (Cat. 1/EU Ban), tayo pa yung galit":bash:

^^ not quite. Boeing is still the first to have a double decker aircraft. their ideas actually got past proposal stage, and is now flying for more than 40 years, commonly known as the 747.
I was referring to double deck designs with a full upper deck spanning the entire length of the aircraft. There's no denying that the 747 was the first double deck jet airliner (of any kind), but that's more of a byproduct of the 747's original design intentions as a cargo carrier for the US Air Force: the smaller upper deck was originally meant to be the crew area while the lower main deck the cargo hold. Boeing lost that contract tender to Lockheed's C-5 Galaxy so Boeing re-used that design for a new passenger aircraft and the rest is history:cheers: (the orginal cargo carrier design idea lives on though as the 747F with the famous nose loading door)

I'm crossing my fingers that we pass the audit this coming February.

As airlines have franchises, they do operate a simple rule on flying rights.
Use it or lose it.
So Airphils was flying to Korea when the country was still in CAT-1. Perhaps they don't have choice if the route is not raking profit. Again, hard to convince people to fly in older planes. Timing was wrong this time. I guess same with PALs
777Ws. Too bad, the A340 flying Vancouver-Las vegas is really cramped. The difference is quite obvious after I rode that Cathay 777 HK-Manila.

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‘Good problem’ confronts Aklan
KALIBO, Aklan — A “good problem” is confronting Aklan — the thousands of tourists arriving daily at the Kalibo International Airport (KIA), which the airport cannot handle well due to the limited space and infrastructure, said Gov. Carlito Marquez.
“We have the tourists the airport can’t handle,” Marquez told anchorman Gus Tolentino in “Governor’s Report to the People” aired over Kalibo Cable.
The governor said there is a need to build another terminal building for domestic tourists, and called on the Civil Aviation Authority (CAAP) to look into the problem.
The influx of tourists was caused by numerous international flights from mainland China, Taiwan, and South Korea, said Carina Ruiz, provincial tourism operations officer.
This March, Cebu Pacific would also have direct flights from Taipei, Taiwan to KIA, while another route, this time from North Incheong, South Korea, would also be forthcoming.
Ruiz also revealed that last year, Boracay’s tourist arrivals generated more than P16 billion in tourism receipts, compared to 2010 which had more than P14 billion.
Ruiz said the figures show that the influx of tourists to Aklan is increasing. (Venus G. Villanueva, PIA-6 Aklan/PN)
SO CAAP/DOTC WHAT ARE YOU WAITING
If the so called Premier Airport has a Problem what can you expect to small International Airport Very slow and POOR Aviation office in this Country.:bash::bash::bash:
source Panay News 25.01.12/Regional

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Air travel for Catarman-Tacloban, Catarman-Cebu routes available soon

CATARMAN, Northern Samar -- Air travel will soon be available for Catarman-Tacloban and Catarman-Cebu routes starting this February, Governor Paul Daza said last week shortly before the signing of a memorandum of agreement (MOA) between the transport carrier and its authorized sales agent here.

“We are happy to have finally convinced Eagle Trans Asia (ETA) Air to open this regional flight not being served by other airlines,” Daza said. “This will increase the accessibility of Northern Samar to tourists and investors.”

Daza, who has always been keen in establishing a business-friendly environment out of Northern Samar and in boosting local tourism, initiated the negotiation for the opening of the transport service.

Meanwhile, Luis Jamili, president and CEO of ETA Air, said the newly opened route will have its maiden flight on February 8, 2012 and every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday thereafter.

Jamili was present during the MOA signing being the signatory for ETA Air, with Sammy Co, the general manager of SCJ Travel and Tours, and Jun Malobago, SCJ’s vice president for operations and marketing, the airline’s partner-general sales agent for its new service in Northern Samar.

Jamili assured the public that ETA Air’s 29-seater Jetstream aircraft, which will ply the Catarman-Tacloban and Catarman-Cebu routes, are new and has ample legroom for all types of passengers, with its executive class accommodation turned into commercial planes to serve economy fares.

The aircraft will depart from Cebu for Catarman every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday at 8 a.m. and estimated to arrive at 8:35 a.m. It will fly again for Tacloban (from Catarman) at 9 a.m. It will leave from Tacloban for Catarman at 9:40 a.m., and from Catarman fly back to Cebu at 10:20 a.m.

Depending on the market, it may later on cater Tuesdays of the week or even open on a daily basis, Jamili and Co said.

Meantime, ETA Air may accommodate chartered flights for group travel or pre-arranged tours outside its regular schedule.

For its maiden flight, the airline is offering its service at a promotional rate of P699 for the Catarman-Tacloban route (one-way) and P1,699 for Catarman-Cebu or vice versa.

Promo fares will also be available once they become fully operational, Jamili said.

Daza is optimistic that this new development in transportation will not only bring in tourists to Northern Samar but will also spur investments and other business activities by making the province accessible to its regional center, Tacloban and to the Philippines’ biggest transit point in the south, Cebu. (Leyte Samar Daily Express)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/tacloban/local-news/2012/01/25/air-travel-catarman-tacloban-catarman-cebu-routes-available-soon-2025


The aircraft they will use is Jetstream 41 - 29-Seater :D
Like this aircraft..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Easternairways_j41_g-majx_arp.jpg/1024px-Easternairways_j41_g-majx_arp.jpg

Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Air travel for Catarman-Tacloban, Catarman-Cebu routes available soon

CATARMAN, Northern Samar -- Air travel will soon be available for Catarman-Tacloban and Catarman-Cebu routes starting this February, Governor Paul Daza said last week shortly before the signing of a memorandum of agreement (MOA) between the transport carrier and its authorized sales agent here.

“We are happy to have finally convinced Eagle Trans Asia (ETA) Air to open this regional flight not being served by other airlines,” Daza said. “This will increase the accessibility of Northern Samar to tourists and investors.”

Daza, who has always been keen in establishing a business-friendly environment out of Northern Samar and in boosting local tourism, initiated the negotiation for the opening of the transport service.

Meanwhile, Luis Jamili, president and CEO of ETA Air, said the newly opened route will have its maiden flight on February 8, 2012 and every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday thereafter.

Jamili was present during the MOA signing being the signatory for ETA Air, with Sammy Co, the general manager of SCJ Travel and Tours, and Jun Malobago, SCJ’s vice president for operations and marketing, the airline’s partner-general sales agent for its new service in Northern Samar.

Jamili assured the public that ETA Air’s 29-seater Jetstream aircraft, which will ply the Catarman-Tacloban and Catarman-Cebu routes, are new and has ample legroom for all types of passengers, with its executive class accommodation turned into commercial planes to serve economy fares.

The aircraft will depart from Cebu for Catarman every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday at 8 a.m. and estimated to arrive at 8:35 a.m. It will fly again for Tacloban (from Catarman) at 9 a.m. It will leave from Tacloban for Catarman at 9:40 a.m., and from Catarman fly back to Cebu at 10:20 a.m.

Depending on the market, it may later on cater Tuesdays of the week or even open on a daily basis, Jamili and Co said.

Meantime, ETA Air may accommodate chartered flights for group travel or pre-arranged tours outside its regular schedule.

For its maiden flight, the airline is offering its service at a promotional rate of P699 for the Catarman-Tacloban route (one-way) and P1,699 for Catarman-Cebu or vice versa.

Promo fares will also be available once they become fully operational, Jamili said.

Daza is optimistic that this new development in transportation will not only bring in tourists to Northern Samar but will also spur investments and other business activities by making the province accessible to its regional center, Tacloban and to the Philippines’ biggest transit point in the south, Cebu. (Leyte Samar Daily Express)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/tacloban/local-news/2012/01/25/air-travel-catarman-tacloban-catarman-cebu-routes-available-soon-2025


The aircraft they will use is Jetstream 41 - 29-Seater :D
Like this aircraft..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Easternairways_j41_g-majx_arp.jpg/1024px-Easternairways_j41_g-majx_arp.jpg
This is the big brother of the one Mid-Sea Express will be using. Not a bad aircraft but why all this small operators suddenly cramming to get by CAAP at a time when FAA assessment is crucial?. Another type of check pilot will be required and this will certainly put strain on the organization of CAAP let alone the raised eyebrows of the FAA!

Question lang po. Does Philippine Airlines accept student discount for international flights? Thank you in advance :)

Well, Airbus almost got the tanker contract until congress cried foul. Naturally, that comes in a time when the production line is running low. Sales and marketing is one thing, if price is even, will airlines prefer the 737NG or the A320?....let the debate begin!

My bet is airlines would still prefer the 320NEO (especially if they're already operating an airbus fleet) primarily due to the commonality throughout the Airbus family. Cost would still be an issue as it's been reported that the development cost of the 737NG will cost double that of the A320NEO (http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/737-max-development-cost-to-be-twice-a320neo-report-367314/), so the list price of the 737NG will likely cost more.

Another reason why they'll most likely prefer the A320NEO is because production will start earlier meaning they can get their hands on it earlier, too.

Still there will be a flat growth regarding tourist arrivals from S. Korea.. remeber South koreans are the #1 foreign tourists flying to the philippines more than the "brown filipino-americans from USA"

Wow, I can't believe S.Korea joined FAA downgrade to the Philippines.

BTW, not to pick a fight but I find "brown filipino Americans" very offensive, a form of a racial slur towards it's own kind.... Can't you just say FILAm? Everybody would know exactly who you are refering to but does it have to especifically say , quote and quote brown filipino-American from USA???? Seems to me you're trying to condescend filipino americans not born in the US, Remember there are natural born FilAm who are not just 1st generation american but 2nd, 3rd etc generations.

I'm crossing my fingers that we pass the audit this coming February.

There is really nothing the Philippine government and Aviation agency can do except to comply and work on it real fast. If other foreign governments are able to comply with FAA's safety regulations as well as in EU, I can't see why the Philippines wouldn't be able to follow through.

So Airphils was flying to Korea when the country was still in CAT-1. Perhaps they don't have choice if the route is not raking profit. Again, hard to convince people to fly in older planes. Timing was wrong this time. I guess same with PALs
777Ws. Too bad, the A340 flying Vancouver-Las vegas is really cramped. The difference is quite obvious after I rode that Cathay 777 HK-Manila.

I don't know, I don't think it's about flying an older plan, it's being able to comply with safety regulations. Otherwise, PAL could of used their newest aircraft to it's US operations, namely the B777 series. There are countries who still use older aircrafts who has good safety regulations in their own countries, they are able to fly older aircrafts safely and decomission these older aircrafts if it is really deemed necessary per D checks recommendations or what not. ANA flies some older B767 type aircrafts who to me is considered older as well.

Post away folks! :colgate:


Link to Thread 32 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=160060&page=1380) in the Archives. :okay:

New flight destination from Cebu Pacific... :)

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http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3504/atr72500cebupacificland.jpg
Caticlan-Boracay Airport Approach
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/7628/princessjulianaairport.jpg
It would be exciting for Caticlan-Boracay Airport to have a Runway approximately 2,300 meters long just like Saint Maarten-Princess Juliana Airport that can accommodate as big as B747 400. I was Fortunate to see this exciting plane spotting in the Island of Saint Maarten in Caribbean when our ship dock at Port of Philipsburg Dutch side just 20 min. away from Maho Beach were this famous plane spotters haven .
Since I notice Caticlan and P. Juliana Airports share similar location and both are Private too!

Iloilo Airport
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2078/1541263371_3b2071efa1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexees/1541263371/)
ILOILO Airport (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexees/1541263371/) by alexees (http://www.flickr.com/people/alexees/), on Flickr

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4125/4948263779_8a370f4c6a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cpparreno/4948263779/)
Iloilo Airport Control Tower (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cpparreno/4948263779/) by cpparreno (http://www.flickr.com/people/cpparreno/), on Flickr

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3504/atr72500cebupacificland.jpg
Caticlan-Boracay Airport Approach
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/7628/princessjulianaairport.jpg
It would be exciting for Caticlan-Boracay Airport to have a Runway approximately 2,300 meters long just like Saint Maarten-Princess Juliana Airport that can accommodate as big as B747 400. I was Fortunate to see this exciting plane spotting in the Island of Saint Maarten in Caribbean when our ship dock at Port of Philipsburg Dutch side just 20 min. away from Maho Beach were this famous plane spotters haven .
Since I notice Caticlan and P. Juliana Airports share similar location and both are Private too!
Judging by the altitude they have displaced the threshold now, further in. Before, I think it was close to the fence; hence that famous photo of the wheels skimming over the barbed wire! Great shot!!!

Litigs :
So Airphils was flying to Korea when the country was still in CAT-1. Perhaps they don't have choice if the route is not raking profit. Again, hard to convince people to fly in older planes. Timing was wrong this time. I guess same with PALs
777Ws. Too bad, the A340 flying Vancouver-Las vegas is really cramped. The difference is quite obvious after I rode that Cathay 777 HK-Manila.

I must say, what an absurd world. AirPhil was allowed to fly a dirty and lound old bird (737-200) and now that they have new A 320s, quieter, less CO2, less danger because new instead of 25 years old aircraft, they are banned !

What justice is this ? F**k the FAA ! Who do they think they are anyway ? The Philippines has one of the most modern airline fleets in the world - now look at the US and compare; for goodness sakes !

And we still buy US Boeing built aircraft (777s). There should be a ban on US aircraft when considering purchases with our airlines in future. Why not signal that to these high-nosy Americans.

RP-C8603 (Airbus A319 Philippine Airlines)
Then (2009) Photo courtesy of He Junxian of Airliners.net
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/4/6/1493648.jpg

Now (2012)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/397026_298205840226555_104141716299636_815804_1443446148_n.jpg

and look closer
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426444_298205776893228_104141716299636_815803_1648793925_n.jpg

^^ Mukhang busabos. Looks like these crafts should get some cleaning. Parang may pa-awa effect ata to for being Cat 2?

:)

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8451/danielcraiggenhi.jpg
Actor Daniel Craig waits at the NAIA yesterday for his flight to Hong Kong on his way back to the UK. Craig stayed briefly in Manila to join his wife Rachel Weisz, who is filming ‘The Bourne Legacy.’ RUDY SANTOS
www.philstar.com

Wonder anu ang impression nya sa NAIA? hehe

Litigs :
So Airphils was flying to Korea when the country was still in CAT-1. Perhaps they don't have choice if the route is not raking profit. Again, hard to convince people to fly in older planes. Timing was wrong this time. I guess same with PALs
777Ws. Too bad, the A340 flying Vancouver-Las vegas is really cramped. The difference is quite obvious after I rode that Cathay 777 HK-Manila.

I must say, what an absurd world. AirPhil was allowed to fly a dirty and lound old bird (737-200) and now that they have new A 320s, quieter, less CO2, less danger because new instead of 25 years old aircraft, they are banned !

What justice is this ? F**k the FAA ! Who do they think they are anyway ? The Philippines has one of the most modern airline fleets in the world - now look at the US and compare; for goodness sakes !

And we still buy US Boeing built aircraft (777s). There should be a ban on US aircraft when considering purchases with our airlines in future. Why not signal that to these high-nosy Americans.
Call it absurd but here's my own prognosis anyways. If you understand where the capital sits from the demilitarized zone, you will know why the South Koreans would love the Americans. It is the most volatile hotspot between the communist and western worlds. So perhaps if APX opted to fleet with an all 737NG, instead of the European airbus, then maybe its another story. Well just me, but you know, the law excuses no one, hence no flight.

the law may not always be fair but it is what it is and we/they have to follow it... the only thing the philippines can do is to get out of category 2 status as soon as possible and everything will fall into place.

it sucks for us since a huge chunk of our tourists are from South Korea. it's been years since the FAA downgrade and I hope we have learned our lesson and improve what needed to be improved.

Wonder anu ang impression nya sa NAIA? hehe
He must be sweating in that leather jacket!

It's final: PH gov't wins NAIA-3 case in Singapore

After nine years, the arbitration case between the Philippine government and the Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (Piatco) is finally over.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Jose Angel Honrado yesterday announced that the Singapore-based International Chamber of Commerce’s (ICC) ruling in favor of the Philippine government has become final and executory.

In a manifestation filed on Dec. 27, 2011, Piatco formally withdrew its second application to set aside the earlier ICC ruling that dismissed its claims against the Philippine government.

Read full story here (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/01/26/12/its-final-ph-govt-wins-naia-3-case-singapore)

^^Finally. Looking forward to the full commercial operations of the NAIA Terminal 3 .





:horse:

He must be sweating in that leather jacket!

It's it's made of "pleather," he won't be sweating as much. :colgate:

It's final: PH gov't wins NAIA-3 case in Singapore



Read full story here (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/01/26/12/its-final-ph-govt-wins-naia-3-case-singapore)

wow this is really a great news... i guess this is why they're talking of upgrading the equipments in NAIA3 to ready the terminal for full operation... very nice!

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^^Ready na ang Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines sa NAIA 3!!! :)

^^Ready na ang Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines sa NAIA 3!!! :)

^^GOOD NEWS!

^^Ready na ang Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines sa NAIA 3!!! :)

Yay... lilipat na sila sa T3? that is great..... NAIA T1 badly needs its overhaul!

New flight destination from Cebu Pacific... :)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405913_310662368980045_100352916677659_894215_1934958178_n.jpg

Wait until they open Phuket and Bali flights.. this is a big threat to local tourism as pinoys will flock to cheaper "high-value" leisure destinations. Instead of routinely flying to Boracay or Cebu.

Wait until they open Phuket and Bali flights.. this is a big threat to local tourism as pinoys will flock to cheaper "high-value" leisure destinations. Instead of routinely flying to Boracay or Cebu.
So which one do like PUQue`t or BALL`i?:)

www.philippineairspace.blogspot.com

SEAIR Allowed to Fly Cebu, Davao
January 27, 2011
Singapore - Tiger Airways local subsidiary SOUTH EAST Asian Airlines, Inc. (Seair) announces flights to Cebu and Davao from Manila by summer after the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) upheld the airline's right to fly in the Philippines.
Seair was supposed to fly major domestic routes back in July 2011, but other local carriers, Philippine Airlines, Cebu Air, Inc. (Cebu Pacific), and Air Philippines Corp. (Airphil Express), complained of cabotage violations alleging Tiger as a foreign entity. Philippine Law grants the right of transporting goods and passengers between two or more points within the Philippines only to local airlines.
The airline was able to convinced CAB that its merely leasing Aircraft from Tiger Airways, and that of their reservation system for marketing purposes. It was able to proved that it is still an independent airline in the Philippines. CAB Resolution No. 1 issued on May 18, 2011, ordered Seair to stop the sale of seats for its Manila-Davao and Manila-Cebu routes planned for July 2011. The CAB lifted the cease and desist order in October last year.
The problem now is the aircraft to be used for major domestic services as the carrier awaits delivery of its 3rd and 4th airbus aircraft for domestic and international operations. Two of its Airbuses are operating internationally.
Seair flies to Macau, Hongkong, Bangkok, and Singapore from the carrier’s hub in Clark International Airport.
“ We’re looking to fly these route by April or May,” says Avelino L. Zapanta, SEAIR President and Chief Executive Officer.

“We’re just waiting for developments from the sources of the two aircraft that will be acquired for the Cebu and Davao operations,” Mr. Zapanta said.

The two new aircraft will also be used to fly Kuching, Penang, Langkawi, and Kota Kinabalu all in Malaysia, and some points in China, Mr. Zapanta said. The airline also plans to fly South Korea and Japan in the future.

It's it's made of "pleather," he won't be sweating as much. :colgate:

Plus I am sure, there is an a/c in NAIA terminal so it's not like it's going to be hot and muggy inside especially early in the morning...

It's it's made of "pleather," he won't be sweating as much. :colgate:

its cold in NAIA T1...plus he is heading to a colder country.

Litigs :
So Airphils was flying to Korea when the country was still in CAT-1. Perhaps they don't have choice if the route is not raking profit. Again, hard to convince people to fly in older planes. Timing was wrong this time. I guess same with PALs
777Ws. Too bad, the A340 flying Vancouver-Las vegas is really cramped. The difference is quite obvious after I rode that Cathay 777 HK-Manila.

I must say, what an absurd world. AirPhil was allowed to fly a dirty and lound old bird (737-200) and now that they have new A 320s, quieter, less CO2, less danger because new instead of 25 years old aircraft, they are banned !

What justice is this ? F**k the FAA ! Who do they think they are anyway ? The Philippines has one of the most modern airline fleets in the world - now look at the US and compare; for goodness sakes !

And we still buy US Boeing built aircraft (777s). There should be a ban on US aircraft when considering purchases with our airlines in future. Why not signal that to these high-nosy Americans.

That's nonsense: all Philippine-based airlines are banned from flying into the EU so should we put a ban on European aircraft to show those "high nosy" Europeans as well? With both European and American aircraft banned in that situation, where will airlines here get their aircraft from? the Russians? the Chinese? The fact is that we (the Philippines that is) are in the wrong by having deficient oversight/supervision by the CAAP, leading to the Cat. 2 downgrade/EU ban. Having one of the most modern airline fleets in the world means nothing when the regulators who are supposed to ensure safety in the industry aren't doing their job.

Until the government here shapes up and get back to Cat. 1 and unbanned from the EU, we have no right to complain when other countries impose safety restrictions as they're only following rules and whining about that just make Filipinos look like fools with the "kami na nga ang may kasalanan (Cat. 2/EU ban), kami pa ang galit" mentality:bash:

RP-C8603 (Airbus A319 Philippine Airlines)
Then (2009) Photo courtesy of He Junxian of Airliners.net
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/4/6/1493648.jpg
Now (2012)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/397026_298205840226555_104141716299636_815804_1443446148_n.jpg
and look closer
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426444_298205776893228_104141716299636_815803_1648793925_n.jpg
^^ Mukhang busabos. Looks like these crafts should get some cleaning. Parang may pa-awa effect ata to for being Cat 2?
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/4/6/1493648.jpg
Legazpi Airport! Thanks for this find.:)

That's nonsense: all Philippine-based airlines are banned from flying into the EU so should we put a ban on European aircraft to show those "high nosy" Europeans as well? With both European and American aircraft banned in that situation, where will airlines here get their aircraft from? the Russians? the Chinese? The fact is that we (the Philippines that is) are in the wrong by having deficient oversight/supervision by the CAAP, leading to the Cat. 2 downgrade/EU ban. Having one of the most modern airline fleets in the world means nothing when the regulators who are supposed to ensure safety in the industry aren't doing their job.

Until the government here shapes up and get back to Cat. 1 and unbanned from the EU, we have no right to complain when other countries impose safety restrictions as they're only following rules and whining about that just make Filipinos look like fools with the "kami na nga ang may kasalanan (Cat. 2/EU ban), kami pa ang galit" mentality:bash:

Point is the Europeans simply followed the FAA, even when their inspectors were here, that is fact - not visa versa. The United States still believe they are a super power and every one has to obey, even when the situation turns absurd by effecting airlines that have no business with government-ground infrastructure.

Fact is, Philippine carriers have tremendously gained with their safety regulations and modern fleets.

True is further more that CAAP has to get better, absolutely correct. But not by punishing the airlines for doing better than their US counterparts concerning fleets, and safety policies will there be any better government sided accomplishments.

PAL has certification to German ISO standard qualities, ensured by TÜV. They are extremely strict. Same goes for AirPhilEX, as their daughter company.

It is but PAL and AirPhilEX that was punished in this matter, not the government.

And yes, to answer your question, there is a great development in Russian and Chinese aero-technology lately. I.e. check the Russian SuperJet and judge for yourself. And, don´t forget, there also are Brazilian and Kanadian manufacturers within short to medium range aircraft available doing better economically than Airbus or Boeing.

^^Finally. Looking forward to the full commercial operations of the NAIA Terminal 3 .





:horse:

Ummm... howabout Fraport's case in DC? I think that's still pending. We can't do anything until something comes up with that.

majaba98:
When determining the aviation safety rating of various countries The FAA looks at the regulators/government agencies that are responsible for enforcing the rules in the said country (in our case the CAAP) and not the individual airlines. PAL, Cebu Pacific, etc. can have all the modern fleet and ISO certifications they want but that means nothing when the government safety regulators are not doing their job. As all local airlines report to and are under the jurisdiction of the CAAP, they are included in the category 2 rating regardless of whatever modern fleet of ISO certifications they have.

http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/27/pr-del-s12/

Philippine Airlines Delhi Service Adjustments in S12
by JL

Update at 0940GMT 27JAN12

As per 27JAN12 GDS timetable and inventory display, Philippine Airlines in Summer 2012 season continues its service to Delhi. The airline will continue to operate 3 weekly Manila – Bangkok – Delhi, while planned service resumption on Manila – Delhi sector is cancelled.

Schedule:

PR752 MNL1845 – 2105BKK2230 – 0110+1DEL 330 135
PR753 DEL0245 – 0825BKK0925 – 1350MNL 330 246

Ummm... howabout Fraport's case in DC? I think that's still pending. We can't do anything until something comes up with that.

that case has been over moon years ago, its a done deal, it was all in favor of the Phil govt.:lol::lol:

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^^ Perhaps when Finnair lands in Philippines.. They will dance Otso-otso.. LOL

that case has been over moon years ago, its a done deal, it was all in favor of the Phil govt.:lol::lol:

Well, it was initially dismissed on a technicality but ICISD decided to hear the case again.

Wait until they open Phuket and Bali flights.. this is a big threat to local tourism as pinoys will flock to cheaper "high-value" leisure destinations. Instead of routinely flying to Boracay or Cebu.

On the contrary, these flights will make Manila an option for tourists who would normally only visit Angkor and skip Manila.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3219/phairports.jpg

^^ AFAIK, Subic Bay airport is no longer in use, right?

Would news like this affect our CAT2 to CAT1 target reclassification?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/01/28/12/2-hurt-plane-trike-collision-lingayen

MANILA, Philippines – Two people were hurt as a tricycle slammed into a Cessna aircraft at an airport runway in Lingayen, Pangasinan on Saturday.

According to a report by the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP), a Cessna 152 plane carrying a flight instructor and a student just landed on the runway when a tricycle suddenly blocked its path.

Both Queenie Gaviola, flight instructor of Flight and Simulator Training, Inc. in Las Piñas, and student pilot Joseph Valledor, Jr. of Parañaque were injured in the collision.

The tricycle driver, meanwhile, immediately fled the scene after the mishap.

CAAP said the plane’s horizontal stabilizer was damaged.

Authorities are currently investigating how the tricycle was able to access the airport’s runwa

Would news like this affect our CAT2 to CAT1 target reclassification?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/01/28/12/2-hurt-plane-trike-collision-lingayen

MANILA, Philippines – Two people were hurt as a tricycle slammed into a Cessna aircraft at an airport runway in Lingayen, Pangasinan on Saturday.

According to a report by the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP), a Cessna 152 plane carrying a flight instructor and a student just landed on the runway when a tricycle suddenly blocked its path.

Both Queenie Gaviola, flight instructor of Flight and Simulator Training, Inc. in Las Piñas, and student pilot Joseph Valledor, Jr. of Parañaque were injured in the collision.

The tricycle driver, meanwhile, immediately fled the scene after the mishap.

CAAP said the plane’s horizontal stabilizer was damaged.

Authorities are currently investigating how the tricycle was able to access the airport’s runwa
I'm not expert to this matter but in my own opinion I think case like this is Isolated since they focus on Premier International Airport, Equipments in main operation, like RADAR if it is up to date things like that.... Landing Systems and whole Operations plus the technical capabilities of CAAP:) Personnel.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3219/phairports.jpg
Thanks for sharing the map but it is outdated. Example, Ozamiz is still classified as a community airport whne it should be Principal Class-1; the airport is receiving two airbus flights to Manila and one to Cebu plus one turbo-prop flight to Cebu, you can't call that a community airport.

CAAP on track to meet ICAO standards

THE Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) team that conducted a five-day review of the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (Caap) said the agency is on the right track in complying with the safety requirements of the International Civil Aviation Organization (Icao).
However, it added that there remain some fundamentals that still need to be addressed before the final audit by the International Aviation Safety Assessment (IASA). IASA is a branch of the FAA that grades the aviation compliance of some 190 member-countries of the International Civil Aviation Organization (Icao).

“The Caap is on the right track. It has a good management team that should be allowed to continue and be given proper support by the government because they know how to get to regaining Category 1,” FAA team leader Jacques Astre said.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/top-news/22543-caap-on-track-to-meet-icao-standards

here are some NAIA pictures i took..

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9045/photo219q.jpg
^^is this the A380 hangar of Lufthansa Technik?

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1408/photo228y.jpg
^^was lucky to see the cockpit :)

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http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/3341/photo337.jpg
^^this very same plane was in this very same spot when i went to Manila last October. what's it doing there?

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http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3207/photo358x.jpg

An interesting behind-the-scenes look at meal service for the cockpit crew. :okay:

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^^ Weh. Biskwit, mani at kape/tea/tubig na lang sa PAL. What more pa sa APX, CebPac at Zest? Hehehe!!! :D

Thanks for sharing the map but it is outdated. Example, Ozamiz is still classified as a community airport whne it should be Principal Class-1; the airport is receiving two airbus flights to Manila and one to Cebu plus one turbo-prop flight to Cebu, you can't call that a community airport.

Unless there's a declaration from the CAAP upping the classification (and there isn't one yet, since the classifications are updated every three years: in this case, the map should be updated this year), we cannot change the designation.

The map is also from Wikipedia.

Weh. Biskwit, mani at kape/tea/tubig na lang sa PAL. What more pa sa APX, CebPac at Zest? Hehehe!!! :D

These days, meal service only exist when the flight is over three hours long. Flying between Philippine cities are usually short, so a meal service isn't that necessary, or even economical for the airline. In the age of cost cutting measures in the airline industry, the "BYO" rule (Bring Your Own or Buy Your Own food once on board) applies. I don't know how it is in other US airports, but at Orlando International Airport (MCO), you'll see signs at the foodcourts/food kiosks near the boarding gates that says "Last Stop For Food" reminding passengers to either stop by and eat a meal or buy a something to bring on board the flight to eat.

Dear All,

This is to inform you that Qatar Airways has revealed on the GDS system that it shal be suspending all flights to CEB-Cebu, Philippines effective 26MAR 2012. All flights have been zero'd out in the GDS system for the entire S12 season as seen below:

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1QR 657 C0 J0 D0 Z0 I0 Y0*CEBDOH 1825 2315 332 M 0 246 DCA /E
B0 L0 M0 Q0 K0 U0 H0 E0 *A

114APRDOHCEB‡QR«
14APR SAT DOH/Z‡3 CEB/‡5
1QR 656 C0 J0 D0 Z0 I0*DOHCEB 0150 1655 332 M 0 246 DCA /E
Y0 B0 L0 M0 Q0 K0 U0 H0 E0 *A

QR currently operates 3 times per week to CEB using a 2 class configured A330-200 which seats 259 pax.

It launched CEB many years ago with an AB6 operated via SIN with 5th freedom traffic rights.

So after LGW, RGN and EWR, this is the only 4th route that I can think of that QR has suspended since the turn of the century. Any more?

I would have kept CEB online and operated it via HKG if it could not be operated nonstop with an A332 due to aircraft shortage issues. As it is, QR's HKG route struggles to be filled with over 65% S/F so tagging it on to CEB would not be a big drain on the finances.


http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5371197/

snacks in flights, 1-1/2 hour flight

Delta LGA - RDU
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JetBlue JFK - RDU
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my photos

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Air France Economy Meal

Dear All,

This is to inform you that Qatar Airways has revealed on the GDS system that it shal be suspending all flights to CEB-Cebu, Philippines effective 26MAR 2012. All flights have been zero'd out in the GDS system for the entire S12 season as seen below:

128APRCEBDOH‡QR«
1QR 657 C0 J0 D0 Z0 I0 Y0*CEBDOH 1825 2315 332 M 0 246 DCA /E
B0 L0 M0 Q0 K0 U0 H0 E0 *A

114APRDOHCEB‡QR«
14APR SAT DOH/Z‡3 CEB/‡5
1QR 656 C0 J0 D0 Z0 I0*DOHCEB 0150 1655 332 M 0 246 DCA /E
Y0 B0 L0 M0 Q0 K0 U0 H0 E0 *A

QR currently operates 3 times per week to CEB using a 2 class configured A330-200 which seats 259 pax.

It launched CEB many years ago with an AB6 operated via SIN with 5th freedom traffic rights.

So after LGW, RGN and EWR, this is the only 4th route that I can think of that QR has suspended since the turn of the century. Any more?

I would have kept CEB online and operated it via HKG if it could not be operated nonstop with an A332 due to aircraft shortage issues. As it is, QR's HKG route struggles to be filled with over 65% S/F so tagging it on to CEB would not be a big drain on the finances.


http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5371197/

Parang hindi mangyayari siguro. Nagtrry ako ng mock booking sa website nila by June of this year. Meron pa naman. :)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/152/manilafun10.jpg
This Airports are appeared officially International and Standard by facilities* "however" in most of this Airports no flights are being detected or seen in past Years after opening, even Open Sky Policy are in place some are cater to Chartered flights, there are flights that Travelling Through or "VIA" some are Idle at all for the market.

Dear All,

This is to inform you that Qatar Airways has revealed on the GDS system that it shal be suspending all flights to CEB-Cebu, Philippines effective 26MAR 2012. All flights have been zero'd out in the GDS system for the entire S12 season as seen below:

128APRCEBDOH‡QR«
1QR 657 C0 J0 D0 Z0 I0 Y0*CEBDOH 1825 2315 332 M 0 246 DCA /E
B0 L0 M0 Q0 K0 U0 H0 E0 *A

114APRDOHCEB‡QR«
14APR SAT DOH/Z‡3 CEB/‡5
1QR 656 C0 J0 D0 Z0 I0*DOHCEB 0150 1655 332 M 0 246 DCA /E
Y0 B0 L0 M0 Q0 K0 U0 H0 E0 *A

QR currently operates 3 times per week to CEB using a 2 class configured A330-200 which seats 259 pax.

It launched CEB many years ago with an AB6 operated via SIN with 5th freedom traffic rights.

So after LGW, RGN and EWR, this is the only 4th route that I can think of that QR has suspended since the turn of the century. Any more?

I would have kept CEB online and operated it via HKG if it could not be operated nonstop with an A332 due to aircraft shortage issues. As it is, QR's HKG route struggles to be filled with over 65% S/F so tagging it on to CEB would not be a big drain on the finances.


http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5371197/

Nagtry akong magmock booking ngayon with various dates, meron pa.:cheers:

^^
Unless there's a declaration from the CAAP upping the classification (and there isn't one yet, since the classifications are updated every three years: in this case, the map should be updated this year), we cannot change the designation.

The map is also from Wikipedia.

Ozamiz is a Class 1 airport. It has been reclassified from the time Cebu Pacific buses flew there.There was already an AO to that effect. Even San Fernando airport classification is wrong. Try to get hold the latest AIP for both these airports. :)

Considering how CAAP publish its bulletin is another matter though. The new AIP is not for public consumption, e.i. public domain. Security and economic issues. Maybe, copyright. You want to see it, fine. Try visit some local CAAP offices. You want to get hold of it, buy it. Airlines, and flight schools buy it. Unfortunately, seeing them through the internet is not one of them.

Parang hindi mangyayari siguro. Nagtrry ako ng mock booking sa website nila by June of this year. Meron pa naman. :)
Nagtry akong magmock booking ngayon with various dates, meron pa.:cheers:


Well March pa ang effective date and that it's Cebu direct service is what is affected not MNL IMO.

^^


Ozamiz is a Class 1 airport. It has been reclassified from the time Cebu Pacific buses flew there.There was already an AO to that effect. Even San Fernando airport classification is wrong. Try to get hold the latest AIP for both these airports. :)

Considering how CAAP publish its bulletin is another matter though. The new AIP is not for public consumption, e.i. public domain. Security and economic issues. Maybe, copyright. You want to see it, fine. Try visit some local CAAP offices. You want to get hold of it, buy it. Airlines, and flight schools buy it. Unfortunately, seeing them through the internet is not one of them.
I wonder what qualification one needs to have before they will let you purchase the AIP, I mean, this the post 911 era. Last time I was allowed to view one from a CAAP authority was for a research and using the name of my school. The tower chief of what was Lahug then would not even let me take a copy, he said it is restricted, that was still in the 90s. So in these days where you can get Jepessen charts - digital, is that bible of Philippine airports still hard to get? Thanks.

Anybody interested can purchase an AIP. Just bring with you 2 valid ID (Security check), preferably one issued by the government. And prepare to answer some questions. A lot of them!

Although, its much easier if your studying some aeronautical courses.

The jepps, while technologically advance, still suffers infirmity, with respect to AID as they still rely much of the info from AIS. More so, they are not official chart. Last time I check, they were behind for a year. Technically speaking, merely using them at navigation is already a ground to strip you off your license, since a pilot need to have the latest charts available before commencing flight.

Imagine, flying into an airfield that is closed based on latest NOTAM but with a jepps map saying otherwise. You end up hitting a dog, cow, or goats. Or maybe a motorcycle. :lol:

^^Ready na ang Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines sa NAIA 3!!! :)

I'm not sure of this SQ has just completed its full renovation of its ticket office plus T1 is currently having its facelift renovation on-going 'til now.

Considering how CAAP publish its bulletin is another matter though. The new AIP is not for public consumption, e.i. public domain. Security and economic issues. Maybe, copyright. You want to see it, fine. Try visit some local CAAP offices. You want to get hold of it, buy it. Airlines, and flight schools buy it. Unfortunately, seeing them through the internet is not one of them.

I think I told you this before: if it's a public document, it's not copyrightable. And, on another matter: copyright shall not subsist on any work of the Government of the Philippines.

There are "public documents" that are classified as "top secret". On a few are privileged to see those. could be that those documents ar "top secret'?

^^ How is an AIP considered "top-secret"? Flight patterns and information about an airport are not a matter of national security: it's not like terrorists need the AIP to bomb the terminal building. Plus several countries freely make their AIPs available online.

The Philippines' obsession with security bemuses me as it often crosses the borderline into stupidity and absurdity. As it is, we're the only country that bans photography in public places (unofficially or otherwise) because of "security concerns". What else now should I expect? :?

^^
I think I told you this before: if it's a public document, it's not copyrightable. And, on another matter: copyright shall not subsist on any work of the Government of the Philippines.

I think the impression is wrong. All public and private documents are copyrighted materials, except that government may waived its right to claim ownership. Waiver of the right to claim however is not absolute and they may be reserved. Abandonment of right is not the same as waiver or reservation. That is where regulation comes in. Even Government Textbooks for Elementary and Secondary Education has copyright notice. Yet, it is a public textbook. A Philippine yearbook also has a copyright notice. Yet, it is a public document. Book publishers even ask the government to cite or copy its report. Otherwise, why would they even bother to asked authority to print or cite in the first place, and why would the copyright notice be even there?

If the premise is true, then Jeppesen doesn't have to bother asking for permits. But why do they? Because they recognize the copyright and its existence. Simple as that.

Anybody interested can purchase an AIP. Just bring with you 2 valid ID (Security check), preferably one issued by the government. And prepare to answer some questions. A lot of them!

Although, its much easier if your studying some aeronautical courses.

The jepps, while technologically advance, still suffers infirmity, with respect to AID as they still rely much of the info from AIS. More so, they are not official chart. Last time I check, they were behind for a year. Technically speaking, merely using them at navigation is already a ground to strip you off your license, since a pilot need to have the latest charts available before commencing flight.

Imagine, flying into an airfield that is closed based on latest NOTAM but with a jepps map saying otherwise. You end up hitting a dog, cow, or goats. Or maybe a motorcycle. :lol:
Exactly Ariane, it is available but not exactly like getting a textbook from the bookstore. I'm a bit wary with the "lots of questions" aspect. I'm trying to ascertain what the authorities mind might be if you simply want to know the particulars of each airport in the Philippines and that you are an aviation enthusiast who wants to satisfy your curiosity. Perhaps a scenario where a turboprop plane is hijacked forced to land in a remote and unsecured airstrip?

[QUOTE=skyskimmer;88014589]here are some NAIA pictures i took..

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/3341/photo337.jpg
^^this very same plane was in this very same spot when i went to Manila last October. what's it doing there?

Good question, anyone knows why it´s on the unused side of T3 and why for so long if it is a Hong Kong based cargo airline?

www.philippineairspace.blogspot.com

SEAIR Allowed to Fly Cebu, Davao
January 27, 2011
Singapore - Tiger Airways local subsidiary SOUTH EAST Asian Airlines, Inc. (Seair) announces flights to Cebu and Davao from Manila by summer after the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) upheld the airline's right to fly in the Philippines.
Seair was supposed to fly major domestic routes back in July 2011, but other local carriers, Philippine Airlines, Cebu Air, Inc. (Cebu Pacific), and Air Philippines Corp. (Airphil Express), complained of cabotage violations alleging Tiger as a foreign entity. Philippine Law grants the right of transporting goods and passengers between two or more points within the Philippines only to local airlines.
The airline was able to convinced CAB that its merely leasing Aircraft from Tiger Airways, and that of their reservation system for marketing purposes. It was able to proved that it is still an independent airline in the Philippines. CAB Resolution No. 1 issued on May 18, 2011, ordered Seair to stop the sale of seats for its Manila-Davao and Manila-Cebu routes planned for July 2011. The CAB lifted the cease and desist order in October last year.
The problem now is the aircraft to be used for major domestic services as the carrier awaits delivery of its 3rd and 4th airbus aircraft for domestic and international operations. Two of its Airbuses are operating internationally.
Seair flies to Macau, Hongkong, Bangkok, and Singapore from the carrier’s hub in Clark International Airport.
“ We’re looking to fly these route by April or May,” says Avelino L. Zapanta, SEAIR President and Chief Executive Officer.

“We’re just waiting for developments from the sources of the two aircraft that will be acquired for the Cebu and Davao operations,” Mr. Zapanta said.

The two new aircraft will also be used to fly Kuching, Penang, Langkawi, and Kota Kinabalu all in Malaysia, and some points in China, Mr. Zapanta said. The airline also plans to fly South Korea and Japan in the future.




a very good news indeed~! :)

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/P1010101.jpgif you think the on board complimentary snacks of PAL is not satisfactory, this is your compliment from a north american airline after you purchase a $6 sandwich. By the way, the ticket also was not a promo fare. Nevertheless, the FAs were very attentive.

maganda ngayon ang new CAAP building na ginagawa at donated by japanese na naman:lol:

^^
Exactly Ariane, it is available but not exactly like getting a textbook from the bookstore. I'm a bit wary with the "lots of questions" aspect. I'm trying to ascertain what the authorities mind might be if you simply want to know the particulars of each airport in the Philippines and that you are an aviation enthusiast who wants to satisfy your curiosity. Perhaps a scenario where a turboprop plane is hijacked forced to land in a remote and unsecured airstrip?

If you have an ID like a passport for example and your reason is what you've exactly stated, then it wouldn't be a problem. But of course they would ask you if you live in or out of the country, and are employed, and from what company and then they would ask your to show your id and proof of employment. The logic is you are per-occupied with other things in your profession than being obsessed with airports.

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/dennislitigs/P1010101.jpgif you think the on board complimentary snacks of PAL is not satisfactory, this is your compliment from a north american airline after you purchase a $6 sandwich. By the way, the ticket also was not a promo fare. Nevertheless, the FAs were very attentive.
Dati! I used to laugh when PAL [Domestic Flights] offer FITA hot and Spicy Tuna Flavor-with Sugo? Peanut and Coffee, BUT in American Airlines[Miami-Los Angeles 5HRS.] Flight I flew is just Tiny Pretzel Pack [1pcs.] Tissue and Small can of Coke. I miss those days 1995 my first Flight Manila-Kalibo B737 they serve Goldilocks Pastry & a small Mint Candy with a Hole[?] the green one in a small Paper Box with PR Logo, later that I expect the same but one flight also they just serve only Beverages.

Dancing Finnair Flight Attendants (nag-a la 5J na din sila):D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtFI5izlWfE&feature=fvsr

Dancing Finnair Flight Attendants (nag-a la 5J na din sila):D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtFI5izlWfE&feature=fvsr


As always puro batikos noon ang 5J sa trend na sumasayaw ang FA sa Safety Demo ...NOW it seems that Overseas Carrier try to imitate this, pati narin yata ang Air New Zealand parang sumunod din?

^^ Ituloy ang sayawan!

^^ Ituloy ang sayawan!
All by myselfff...I wanna be all by myself:lol::lol: anu kaya!:lol:

Airbus No MSN5033 Jazeera Airways

http://v2.airplaneupload.de/images-i964baya4c.jpg (http://v2.airplaneupload.de/display-i964baya4c.html)

^^


If you have an ID like a passport for example and your reason is what you've exactly stated, then it wouldn't be a problem. But of course they would ask you if you live in or out of the country, and are employed, and from what company and then they would ask your to show your id and proof of employment. The logic is you are per-occupied with other things in your profession than being obsessed with airports.
I see, thanks! Would the AIP be available for purchase at CAAP Cebu-Mactan or it has to be at head office in Manila?

Airbus Challenges The 787-10X With A330-300S

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5372476/

^^
I think the impression is wrong. All public and private documents are copyrighted materials, except that government may waived its right to claim ownership.
from chanrobles: http://www.chanrobles.com/legal7copyright.htm
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY CODE OF THE PHILIPPINES
[Republic Act No. 8293]

Sec. 176. Works of the Government. -

176.1. No copyright shall subsist in any work of the Government of the Philippines. However, prior approval of the government agency or office wherein the work is created shall be necessary for exploitation of such work for profit. Such agency or office may, among other things, impose as a condition the payment of royalties. No prior approval or conditions shall be required for the use of any purpose of statutes, rules and regulations, and speeches, lectures, sermons, addresses, and dissertations, pronounced, read or rendered in courts of justice, before administrative agencies, in deliberative assemblies and in meetings of public character. (Sec. 9, First Par., P. D. No. 49)
176.2. The Author of speeches, lectures, sermons, addresses, and dissertations mentioned in the preceding paragraphs shall have the exclusive right of making a collection of his works. (n)
176.3. Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions, the Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest or otherwise; nor shall publication or republication by the government in a public document of any work in which copy right is subsisting be taken to cause any abridgment or annulment of the copyright or to authorize any use or appropriation of such work without the consent of the copyright owners. (Sec. 9, Third Par., P. D. No. 49)

CEBU PACIFIC WILL ANNOUNCE TODAY, SOMETHING EXCITING...at 330pm:O)

^^
I see, thanks! Would the AIP be available for purchase at CAAP Cebu-Mactan or it has to be at head office in Manila?

I believe its available only in Central Office. Call AIS for further details.:)


^^
from chanrobles: http://www.chanrobles.com/legal7copyright.htm
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY CODE OF THE PHILIPPINES
[Republic Act No. 8293]

Sec. 176. Works of the Government. -

176.1. No copyright shall subsist in any work of the Government of the Philippines. However, prior approval of the government agency or office wherein the work is created shall be necessary for exploitation of such work for profit. Such agency or office may, among other things, impose as a condition the payment of royalties. No prior approval or conditions shall be required for the use of any purpose of statutes, rules and regulations, and speeches, lectures, sermons, addresses, and dissertations, pronounced, read or rendered in courts of justice, before administrative agencies, in deliberative assemblies and in meetings of public character. (Sec. 9, First Par., P. D. No. 49)
176.2. The Author of speeches, lectures, sermons, addresses, and dissertations mentioned in the preceding paragraphs shall have the exclusive right of making a collection of his works. (n)
176.3. Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions, the Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest or otherwise; nor shall publication or republication by the government in a public document of any work in which copy right is subsisting be taken to cause any abridgment or annulment of the copyright or to authorize any use or appropriation of such work without the consent of the copyright owners. (Sec. 9, Third Par., P. D. No. 49)

Thanks mate. There you go folks. Lawyers call it express waiver of right. Do note the conditions.

Cebu Pacific to launch budget long-haul flights in Q3 2013

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) will commence long-haul flights in the 3rd quarter of 2013. The airline will lease up to 8 Airbus A330-300 aircraft to serve new markets beyond the range of CEB’s current fleet of Airbus A320 aircraft.

The Airbus A330 has a range of up to 11 hours which means CEB could serve markets such as Australia, Middle East, parts of Europe and the US. The aircraft is one of the most commonly used wide-body aircraft in operation today, given its highly reliable operating statistics.

“The A330-300 will give us the lowest cost per seat, allowing us to drive long-haul fares 35% lower than those currently offered by other airlines, and as much as 80% lower when CEB offers promo fares. This aircraft type is very well suited to the kind of network we want to build and the routes we want to launch,” said Lance Gokongwei, CEB President and CEO.

“We are exploring serving cities where large Filipino communities reside --- Europe, Middle East, Oceania and the USA. Data indicates that more than half of Filipinos deployed in these regions take multiple stops and connecting flights because no home carrier can fly them there non-stop,” added Gokongwei.

Gokongwei cited Saudi Arabia as an example, where only 165,000 passengers flew direct non-stop flights from Manila (Civil Aeronautics Board 2010 data), compared to 293,000 Filipinos deployed to Saudi Arabia in the same year. This means that nearly half of Filipinos who flew to Saudi Arabia in 2010 had to take multiple flights to get to their destination. With CEB’s long haul operations, the budget airline will provide more affordable, direct flight options to Filipinos overseas, a population estimated to be 11 million worldwide.

Since its inception in 1996, CEB has posted a good track record in stimulating short-haul travel of Filipinos working and residing overseas. Passenger traffic to and from Hong Kong, where a lot of Filipinos reside and work, grew by 88% since CEB started operating flights from Manila in 2001.

“We want to do the same for long-haul traffic --- offer the lowest fares possible and drive a significant increase on demand for air travel to regions outside of Asia. This is truly an exciting time for CEB as we continue to be of service to the 11 million strong global Filipinos, wherever they are in the world; and to their families back home,” Gokongwei said.

“As CEB develops long-haul routes and opens new destinations for a Philippine flag carrier, we will be creating an important enabler for increased trade, tourism and foreign investment.”

The airline currently operates 10 Airbus A319, 19 Airbus A320 and 8 ATR-72 500 aircraft. Its fleet of 37 aircraft – with an average age of 3.6 years – is one of the youngest aircraft fleets in Asia. Between 2012 and 2021, Cebu Pacific will take an additional 23 Airbus A320 and 30 Airbus A321neo aircraft.

CEB operates the most extensive network in the Philippines with 34 domestic destinations and hubs in Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao. It also offers 19 international destinations, namely Bangkok, Beijing, Brunei, Busan, Guangzhou, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh, Hong Kong, Incheon (Seoul), Jakarta, Kota Kinabalu, Kuala Lumpur, Macau, Osaka, Shanghai, Siem Reap, Singapore, Taipei and Xiamen.

Cebu Pacific to launch budget long-haul flights in Q3 2013

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) will commence long-haul flights in the 3rd quarter of 2013. The airline will lease up to 8 Airbus A330-300 aircraft to serve new markets beyond the range of CEB’s current fleet of Airbus A320 aircraft.

The Airbus A330 has a range of up to 11 hours which means CEB could serve markets such as Australia, Middle East, parts of Europe and the US. The aircraft is one of the most commonly used wide-body aircraft in operation today, given its highly reliable operating statistics.

“The A330-300 will give us the lowest cost per seat, allowing us to drive long-haul fares 35% lower than those currently offered by other airlines, and as much as 80% lower when CEB offers promo fares. This aircraft type is very well suited to the kind of network we want to build and the routes we want to launch,” said Lance Gokongwei, CEB President and CEO.

“We are exploring serving cities where large Filipino communities reside --- Europe, Middle East, Oceania and the USA. Data indicates that more than half of Filipinos deployed in these regions take multiple stops and connecting flights because no home carrier can fly them there non-stop,” added Gokongwei.

Gokongwei cited Saudi Arabia as an example, where only 165,000 passengers flew direct non-stop flights from Manila (Civil Aeronautics Board 2010 data), compared to 293,000 Filipinos deployed to Saudi Arabia in the same year. This means that nearly half of Filipinos who flew to Saudi Arabia in 2010 had to take multiple flights to get to their destination. With CEB’s long haul operations, the budget airline will provide more affordable, direct flight options to Filipinos overseas, a population estimated to be 11 million worldwide.

Since its inception in 1996, CEB has posted a good track record in stimulating short-haul travel of Filipinos working and residing overseas. Passenger traffic to and from Hong Kong, where a lot of Filipinos reside and work, grew by 88% since CEB started operating flights from Manila in 2001.

“We want to do the same for long-haul traffic --- offer the lowest fares possible and drive a significant increase on demand for air travel to regions outside of Asia. This is truly an exciting time for CEB as we continue to be of service to the 11 million strong global Filipinos, wherever they are in the world; and to their families back home,” Gokongwei said.

“As CEB develops long-haul routes and opens new destinations for a Philippine flag carrier, we will be creating an important enabler for increased trade, tourism and foreign investment.”

The airline currently operates 10 Airbus A319, 19 Airbus A320 and 8 ATR-72 500 aircraft. Its fleet of 37 aircraft – with an average age of 3.6 years – is one of the youngest aircraft fleets in Asia. Between 2012 and 2021, Cebu Pacific will take an additional 23 Airbus A320 and 30 Airbus A321neo aircraft.

CEB operates the most extensive network in the Philippines with 34 domestic destinations and hubs in Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao. It also offers 19 international destinations, namely Bangkok, Beijing, Brunei, Busan, Guangzhou, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh, Hong Kong, Incheon (Seoul), Jakarta, Kota Kinabalu, Kuala Lumpur, Macau, Osaka, Shanghai, Siem Reap, Singapore, Taipei and Xiamen.

:pepper::pepper::pepper::pepper::pepper:GREAT NEWS ! I just hope it will work in the Middle East, as the carriers there will simply cut prices until 5Js A330s might just fly empty. Crossing my fingers though. For the rest of the world it certainly will be a great deal and bring back a lot more OFWs back home for a vacation with their relatives.:cucumber::cucumber::cucumber::cucumber::cucumber:

Cebu Pacific to launch budget long-haul flights in Q3 2013

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) will commence long-haul flights in the 3rd quarter of 2013. The airline will lease up to 8 Airbus A330-300 aircraft to serve new markets beyond the range of CEB’s current fleet of Airbus A320 aircraft.

The Airbus A330 has a range of up to 11 hours which means CEB could serve markets such as Australia, Middle East, parts of Europe and the US. The aircraft is one of the most commonly used wide-body aircraft in operation today, given its highly reliable operating statistics.

“The A330-300 will give us the lowest cost per seat, allowing us to drive long-haul fares 35% lower than those currently offered by other airlines, and as much as 80% lower when CEB offers promo fares. This aircraft type is very well suited to the kind of network we want to build and the routes we want to launch,” said Lance Gokongwei, CEB President and CEO.

“We are exploring serving cities where large Filipino communities reside --- Europe, Middle East, Oceania and the USA. Data indicates that more than half of Filipinos deployed in these regions take multiple stops and connecting flights because no home carrier can fly them there non-stop,” added Gokongwei.

Gokongwei cited Saudi Arabia as an example, where only 165,000 passengers flew direct non-stop flights from Manila (Civil Aeronautics Board 2010 data), compared to 293,000 Filipinos deployed to Saudi Arabia in the same year. This means that nearly half of Filipinos who flew to Saudi Arabia in 2010 had to take multiple flights to get to their destination. With CEB’s long haul operations, the budget airline will provide more affordable, direct flight options to Filipinos overseas, a population estimated to be 11 million worldwide.

Since its inception in 1996, CEB has posted a good track record in stimulating short-haul travel of Filipinos working and residing overseas. Passenger traffic to and from Hong Kong, where a lot of Filipinos reside and work, grew by 88% since CEB started operating flights from Manila in 2001.

“We want to do the same for long-haul traffic --- offer the lowest fares possible and drive a significant increase on demand for air travel to regions outside of Asia. This is truly an exciting time for CEB as we continue to be of service to the 11 million strong global Filipinos, wherever they are in the world; and to their families back home,” Gokongwei said.

“As CEB develops long-haul routes and opens new destinations for a Philippine flag carrier, we will be creating an important enabler for increased trade, tourism and foreign investment.”

The airline currently operates 10 Airbus A319, 19 Airbus A320 and 8 ATR-72 500 aircraft. Its fleet of 37 aircraft – with an average age of 3.6 years – is one of the youngest aircraft fleets in Asia. Between 2012 and 2021, Cebu Pacific will take an additional 23 Airbus A320 and 30 Airbus A321neo aircraft.

CEB operates the most extensive network in the Philippines with 34 domestic destinations and hubs in Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao. It also offers 19 international destinations, namely Bangkok, Beijing, Brunei, Busan, Guangzhou, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh, Hong Kong, Incheon (Seoul), Jakarta, Kota Kinabalu, Kuala Lumpur, Macau, Osaka, Shanghai, Siem Reap, Singapore, Taipei and Xiamen.

This is great news for OFWs like me. Sabi ko na nga ba eh, it is only a matter of time before 5J goes long-haul. Hope they succeed. I am willing to give up the comforts of Qatar Airways and Emirates for a significant discount on airfare by 5J. :D

Lets see where they fly to first: US, Middle East or Europe (where there soon are no direct flights to any longer)

^ Well from the news article, Mr. Lance Gokongwei specifically mentioned Saudi Arabia. I assumed the Middle East will be one of their priorities. Hindi banned ang Philippine carriers dun so they can mount flights as soon as they received those A330-300.

Personally, I don't like flying in A330. I like B777 of Qatar Airways and Emirates. Mas may leg room and comfort kumpara sa A330 aircraft nila na ginagamit dati sa Manila-Doha, Manila-Dubai routes. :D

this is good development, but I wonder how stressful it would be to take a budget airline on a 20-hr flight.

Manila International Airport, circa 1964 (http://kintoy.blogspot.com/2012/01/departures.html)

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa462/kintoy2/391913_101.jpg

That are indeed good news. I also hope PAL will be back to Europe, when their problems are fixed.

^^^^ But where will 5J fly them to? With the EU ban and FAA Category 2 rating, the US and Europe are out of the question. Also longhaul LCC has been proven difficult to achieve as shown by Air Asia cancelling their longhaul routes to France, the UK and India along with the closure of Oasis HK which tried (and failed) to mount low cost longhaul flight to the UK and Canada from Hong Kong.

^ Middle East obviously. Anyway, yung long-haul flight plan nila ay sa Q3 pa ng 2013 according to the news article. So hopefully, when that time comes, nasa Cat 1 na ulit ang Pilipinas.

this is good development, but I wonder how stressful it would be to take a budget airline on a 20-hr flight.

Middle East is just 8 to 9 hours away. So tolerable pa. Isipin ko na lang yung money na matitipid ko. lol. :D

^^

I meant the US flights

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!

With CAT 1 possibly looming PAL is looking to expand routes.

Cebu Pacific looking to move into medium to possibly long haul routes.

I wonder if Zest Air will make any expansion moves at all...surely they'll do something even just a bit. Heck even Air Phils has shown growth.

Zest Air seems to have been stagnant. What happen to the plan to acquire 767s?....not enough routes.

^^

I meant the US flights

I think they can only reach Hawaii or Guam.... or maybe Alaska the most.. If I remember it right Manila to LA is about 13 hours non-stop via PAL... but LA to MNL is longer..

what I'm wondering is.. would the long-haul service of Ceb Pac be offering meals on board?.. or most probably you buy your food on board separately... nakakagutom un 10 hour flight na walang food and drinks eheheh...

anyways.. this is very great news!

... .

Guys, cool down.

The issue is not about what planes you fly .. that the planes being flown being limited is only the offshoot of the primary reason for banning

The primary reason for banning is almost always due to 'processes and procedures' .. i.e. how transparent and strict the controlling body for the air safety in the country is.

I can quote more than a few countries, where the 'newest' plane is over 10 years or more old .. but not in the blacklist, simply because their air regulator is very strict in ensuring the pilot certifications, aircraft LAME certifications and everything in between is audited, checked, meets standards ..

Just for example, if PAL bought B773w, then the air regulator must have suitably qualified pilots or use third parties to ensure the pilots flying them are meeting FAA / JAA standards, and so do the tech and everybody .. before the Air Regulator certify them as "FIT TO FLY" or "FIT TO REPAIR" ..

krazy816 is right ..

Again, it is not about the planes ..

A case in point ? For example: Zeste flies MA 60s, which are FAA approved, but for them to fly in Philippines, there have been some grey area where the conversion licenses were awarded (I only heard so .. ) and for FAA, JAA and any other regulator, that is a simple and blatant violation. CAAP must have check pilots proficient enough to check and certify the pilots .. of course, if the airline (say Zeste) does have proper checks and balances, they can provide the check pilot, but .. CAAP must ensure that the checks are done properly ..

That's what cause some Airlines to be blacklisted, when the airlines internal checks and balances are wrong, and sometimes, like in the case of PH, the country to be blacklisted .. when the regulator themselves are not transparent enough (add the case of dubious flying hours clocked by student pilots, and approved by CAAP .. calling for deadly skies tag .. )

So if a plane crashes, who do you hold responsible ? nobody. and the insurance companies will simply refuse to pay out, stating the obvious: "You didnt' ensure the pilots were properly trained, so we refuse to pay the insurance claims .. " you get my drift ?

swahi News like what you quoted don't affect anything .. if at all, the AIRPORT OPERATOR WILL BE REPRIMANDED and adviced to ensure proper processes .. oh, wait, it is again CAAP who needs to ensure that .. back to square one ..

Oh, FAA classification also goes on to ensure how qualified and certified everything is ..

Just because you have been flying a plane, accident free, doesn't mean you are good to go .. and you don't need a license ..

Like the types who drive around, without license .. and accident free .. doesn't mean you are doing the right thing .. and it is OK !!!

And of course, when you crash, what happens ? Insurance will say "FLY A KITE" and that leaves the injured and all coverage free :)

Have a look into this vid with 5J and you will see the A 330 right behind Lance in the part where he is interviewed :

http://www.youtube.com/user/Cebupacificair

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!

With CAT 1 possibly looming PAL is looking to expand routes.

Cebu Pacific looking to move into medium to possibly long haul routes.

I wonder if Zest Air will make any expansion moves at all...surely they'll do something even just a bit. Heck even Air Phils has shown growth.

Zest Air seems to have been stagnant. What happen to the plan to acquire 767s?....not enough routes.

they will serve you all-you-can-drink Zest-O juices on long-haul flights :lol:

^^

I meant the US flights

Super uncomfortable kung US flight. hehehe.. continue to use legacy based airlines na lang pag US flights. :D

I think CebuPacific is expecting a category status upgrade...

Zest Air seems to have been stagnant. What happen to the plan to acquire 767s?....not enough routes.

ZA seemed to have found a niche for itself in the cutthroat airline industry in the Philippines: focusing on Boracay. it currently serves 5 international destinations from Kalibo, all within the range of narrow bodies.

Here are some answers to the question of destinations for long haul Cebu Pacific flights:

Businessmirror.com

Cebu Pacific plans long-haul flights
TUESDAY, 31 JANUARY 2012 18:11 LENIE LECTURA / REPORTER
IN a bid to serve Filipinos working abroad who can’t afford to fly home more often, Cebu Pacific on Tuesday unveiled plans to launch budget long-haul flights, hopefully by the third quarter of 2013.
The budget carrier is in discussions to lease up to eight Airbus A330-300 aircraft to serve new markets which are beyond the range of its current fleet composed of Airbus A320s. Among the international destinations being eyed are Australia, the Middle East, parts of Europe and the United States.

Cebu Pacific refused to disclose specific routes pending the filing of application with the Civil Aeronautics Board. Lance Gokongwei, Cebu Pacific president and chief executive officer, however, said Hawaii and Guam are being considered as “potential” long-haul routes.

“We are exploring serving cities where a large Filipino community resides. Data indicates that more than half of Filipinos deployed in these regions take multiple stops and connecting flights because no home carrier can fly them there non-stop,” said Gokongwei.

Saudi Arabia, for instance, transported about 165,000 passengers last year to Manila via direct a flight as against to 293,000 Filipinos deployed there. This means that nearly half of Filipinos who flew to Saudi Arabia in 2010 had to take multiple flights to get to their destinations.

Gokongwei said Cebu Pacific can tap the 4 million overseas Filipino workers (OFW) in the US and 2.5 million in the Middle East. The Airbus A330 has a 400-seat capacity. Gokongwei declined to reveal how much it will shell out in lease payment.

The airline is looking at adding 1 million passengers annually for the first four A330s that will be in operation by 2014. “The total eight A330s will be here by 2016,” he added.

One issue, however, is weighing down on Cebu Pacific’s new plan. The airline can’t fly to these countries until the ban on Philippine carriers is lifted. Gokongwei, however, said Cebu Pacific is confident that by the end of the year local airlines will be allowed to fly in the countries where they are previously restricted. “We are very confident that before the end of the year the significant safety concern issues and EU blacklisting will be lifted. Our objective is to start flying by third quarter of 2013.”

When asked what prompted the airline to make this decision amid spiraling fuel prices and the prevailing ban on Philippine carriers, Gokongwei said “We were already examining long-haul flights very carefully. Is there a market? Yes, there is. Our primary beneficiary will be the OFWs. With cheaper fares they will be able to come home more often.”

Cebu Pacific expects to charge 35-percent lower than the fares currently offered by other airlines, and as much as 80-percent lower when it offers promo fares. He cited that if other airlines are charging around $500 for a one-way ticket to any long-haul destination Cebu Pacific may collect an average fare of $350.

Gokongwei said Cebu Pacific is expecting 2012 to be a competitive year, similar to 2011. “Certainly, our revenue and passenger traffic will grow this year. We expect passengers to reach 14 million this year from 11.9 million in 2011. We will be profitable this year.”

Traffic growth for its international routes is expected at 20 percent to 25 percent and 10 percent to 15 percent for domestic operations for 2012.

Cebu Pacific currently flies to 34 domestic destinations and 18 international routes.

Assuming Cat1 is lifted, an A330 from HNL to MNL requires a stopover via GUM. I'm guessing this is a 3-3-3 configuration like D7 so with more passengers, it means more luggage in-flight.

Assuming Cat1 is lifted, an A330 from HNL to MNL requires a stopover via GUM. I'm guessing this is a 3-3-3 configuration like D7 so with more passengers, it means more luggage in-flight.

It's true that having higher density configuration means more passengers, but as for luggage don't forget that 5J and other LCC's in general encourage passengers to travel light by offering small to no free luggage allowance, and charging extra for checked in luggage.

I just hope 5J has their calculations right as the longhaul LCC market is tough to get into as shown by D7(Air Asia)'s cutting of their London and Paris route. If D7 (the largest LCC in Asia) can't make Europe work, I don't see how 5J can either (assuming the EU ban is lifted, that is).

Do still have flight entitlements to AUS and US though? And with the sure expansion of PR once Cat 1 is restored, would there be something left for 5J?

It's true that having higher density configuration means more passengers, but as for luggage don't forget that 5J and other LCC's in general encourage passengers to travel light by offering small to no free luggage allowance, and charging extra for checked in luggage.

I just hope 5J has their calculations right as the longhaul LCC market is tough to get into as shown by D7(Air Asia)'s cutting of their London and Paris route. If D7 (the largest LCC in Asia) can't make Europe work, I don't see how 5J can either (assuming the EU ban is lifted, that is).

Passengers alone add more mass to the aircraft. But if the EU lifts the blacklist on the PH, none of our national carriers are keen on going to the EU anyway so operationally, it doesn't mean much. PR canned its RUH flight not so long after restarting it, same thing for BNE. As for luggage allowance, no trip from the US would be complete without balikbayan boxes so some will pay-up anyway. I was hoping 5J would consider the A332 for nonstop flights from HNL.

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Passengers alone add more mass to the aircraft. But if the EU lifts the blacklist on the PH, none of our national carriers are keen on going to the EU anyway so operationally, it doesn't mean much. PR canned its RUH flight not so long after restarting it, same thing for BNE. As for luggage allowance, no trip from the US would be complete without balikbayan boxes so some will pay-up anyway. I was hoping 5J would consider the A332 for nonstop flights from HNL.

That's my point: if PAL couldn't make flights to Saudi Arabia work, it's hard to see how 5J could make Mideast (much less Europe) flights work. Don't forget that the likes of EK, QR and EY have very deep pockets and won't hesitate getting into a price war and selling seats at a loss just to drive 5J out of the market. D7 also tried mounting flights to the Mideast at AUH, only to cancel that a few months later, falling victim to the cutthroat competition from EK and EY.

i always fly with Singapore Airlines' A330 and i didn't complain about it's comfort. it's almost the same with Saudia and Cathay anyway.

they will serve you all-you-can-drink Zest-O juices on long-haul flights :lol:

Unlimited Zest no meal....hirap nun sa medium to long haul if they do that. It would mean toilet brake every half an hour :lol:

This is great news for OFWs like me. Sabi ko na nga ba eh, it is only a matter of time before 5J goes long-haul. Hope they succeed. I am willing to give up the comforts of Qatar Airways and Emirates for a significant discount on airfare by 5J. :D
I don't know how 5j can do budget operation for the middle east OFWs when you take into account baggage which they are already charging by category in the domestic routes. Weight is critical in long-haul routes as that would mean more fuel which comes plenty for the middle east carriers. Is there a successful long haul LCC at the moment?, the last one that tried and failed using a 747-400 was HongKong Oasis to New York. Even 8 hours for me in standard coach is already a stretch, and yes that airfare has yet to paid off on the next visa bill. I believe workers from the middle east do it in cash or as like one mentioned here, paid for by employers. Who knows you might end up paying more in on board meals and blankets after the cheap base fare.

is it true na may nag emegency landing na domestic airline few days ago pero wala sa news?

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Yes..I was thinking yes It can be done...but then I remember those huge OFW luggage and balikbayan boxes and we can forget about LCC prices there will no savings at all...maybe small amount if any at all. Might as well go with a legacy carrier.

I hope Cebu Pacific focuses on tourists as well..Look at Jetstar They can fill up they're A330s with light traveling Aussies and kiwis on routes such as Sydney-Phuket, Sydney-Nagoya and Sydney-Honolulu For the budget minded who don't mine traveling light and no frills travel. Cebupac can tap into this market....Air Asia does (eg KL-Gold Coast)

^ Maybe PR did not have the right business model for the Middle East market. We'll see with 5J what they can offer for the Middle East market. I am just so happy right now na something concrete came out of 5J with regard to the long haul market. I am sure they did their homework and maybe learned something from the Air Asia X experience. :D

What type of plane will 5J use if their plan pushes through?

I don't know how 5j can do budget operation for the middle east OFWs when you take into account baggage which they are already charging by category in the domestic routes. Weight is critical in long-haul routes as that would mean more fuel which comes plenty for the middle east carriers. Is there a successful long haul LCC at the moment?, the last one that tried and failed using a 747-400 was HongKong Oasis to New York. Even 8 hours for me in standard coach is already a stretch, and yes that airfare has yet to paid off on the next visa bill. I believe workers from the middle east do it in cash or as like one mentioned here, paid for by employers. Who knows you might end up paying more in on board meals and blankets after the cheap base fare.

First time na may mago-offer na long-haul budget carrier sa Middle East-Philippines market. I am a Silver Club member sa Qatar Airways so I get a hefty baggage allowance already but I am very much willing to give 5J a try. I am not alone I suspect in this. So I am very optimistic sa plan ng 5J.

What type of plane will 5J use if their plan pushes through?

It is in the news article above. Please read it.

Pero to answer your question, 5J said they will be using Airbus A330-300 aircraft for their future long-haul flights. :D

That's my point: if PAL couldn't make flights to Saudi Arabia work, it's hard to see how 5J could make Mideast (much less Europe) flights work. Don't forget that the likes of EK, QR and EY have very deep pockets and won't hesitate getting into a price war and selling seats at a loss just to drive 5J out of the market. D7 also tried mounting flights to the Mideast at AUH, only to cancel that a few months later, falling victim to the cutthroat competition from EK and EY.

CebuPac is more adept at making a profit than PAL.

^ I agree. PAL under Mr. Tan is hopeless in turning a profit. They were and still are living a nightmare, moving from one disaster to another. So hindi magandang i-cite yung example ng PAL sa Riyadh flight and the larger Middle East market para ma-predict ang future ng 5J long-haul performance. :D

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I wonder what the IFE in 5J's A330 will look like. They need to have IFE, even if it is paid.

One reason why D7's EU routes didn't work was because they used an A343 (4-engine). It burns considerably a lot of fuel. They will probably resume that route when they have an A332 or A359. But I feel that D7 was established primarily to serve the EU in the 1st place so with them axing EU routes, their original purpose for existence is gone.

If I'm not mistaken, the same news story was broken out two or three years ago, that 5J is going long haul. Kudos to them for keeping them under wraps for a while despite the leak.

Now, here is the status of the middle east market. As far as I know, rights to Dubai, Bahrain, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, Riyahd and Damman ex MNL are all taken up. Unless the Philippines initiate fresh negotiation with the arabs, which they would be more than grateful, I don't see 5J flying anytime soon from MNL.

Which is why there is Clark because rights are available there. From the way things are right now, it would be a mid east flight from Clark.

Question will then be, can it be sustained from Clark? With all the heavy baggage in tow?

And were they able to solve the AirAsiaX dilemma on long haul?

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CRK seems to be slightly more viable considering that a lot of ME-bound passengers come from region 3.

Speaking of 5J, they "boast" of an on-time performance of 65.6%. That's not something to be happy about for an LCC. Even for a legacy carrier, that's still too low.

Cebu Pacific to launch budget long-haul flights in Q3 2013

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) will commence long-haul flights in the 3rd quarter of 2013. ...

Here are some answers to the question of destinations for long haul Cebu Pacific flights:

Businessmirror.com

Cebu Pacific plans long-haul flights
TUESDAY, 31 JANUARY 2012 18:11 LENIE LECTURA / REPORTER
IN a bid to serve Filipinos working abroad who can’t afford to fly home more often, Cebu Pacific on Tuesday unveiled plans to launch budget long-haul flights, hopefully by the third quarter of 2013.
The budget carrier is in discussions to lease up to eight Airbus A330-300 aircraft to serve new markets which are beyond the range of its current fleet composed of Airbus A320s. Among the international destinations being eyed are Australia, the Middle East, parts of Europe and the United States.

...

With budget long haul flights, just BYOB (Bring your own baon) if you really want to save some more.:)





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I wonder what the IFE in 5J's A330 will look like. They need to have IFE, even if it is paid.

One reason why D7's EU routes didn't work was because they used an A343 (4-engine). It burns considerably a lot of fuel. They will probably resume that route when they have an A332 or A359. But I feel that D7 was established primarily to serve the EU in the 1st place so with them axing EU routes, their original purpose for existence is gone.

I think for a budget airline, offering IFE is not a priority. Hindi ito essential at hindi target ng 5J ang premium market. Sa case ko, I can just return to my trusted Qatar Airways if I want a full-pledged perks like IFE. Pinoys here in the Middle East will book and go for a much cheaper 5J tickets even without IFE. :D

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Speaking of 5J, they "boast" of an on-time performance of 65.6%. That's not something to be happy about for an LCC. Even for a legacy carrier, that's still too low.

At least they're being transparent. And I think it's quite acceptable since it was December and a lot of flights were really delayed.

What type of plane will 5J use if their plan pushes through?


i was read before 5J will mount flights to some international routes using Airbus A321 Neo, correct me, if i'm wrong.

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Fresh and crisp from the paint job! Will the ferry flight originate from here as well?

Look's like 5J is going long haul by Q3 2013

An Airbus A330? Wow!

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It's true that having higher density configuration means more passengers, ... .

A little note: just because it is an A330-300 doesnt mean it must do long hauls :D

5J can always boost capacity in their existing 3 hour plus sectors, like in SIN, KUL and all .. based on demand ..

Look's like 5J is going long haul by Q3 2013

An Airbus A330? Wow!

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looking at the costumes of the FAs beside Lance... they seem to target Hawaii, Arabian area, US, and south America... and you can see Brazil written behind them heehhe

NAIA-Clark high-speed rail project to cost $2B :)

by Tonette Orejas | Inquirer Central Luzon | Wednesday | January 25th, 2012 | 11:49 pm

CLARK FREEPORT—A new high-speed rail project in place of the suspended NorthRail linking the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) and the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) here would cost about $2 billion, Transportation and Communications Secretary Manuel “Mar” Roxas II said here Tuesday.

“The estimate is $2 billion, which is a table-top estimate. The exact amount is uncertain in the absence of a detailed engineering design but the Chinese government said it is open to funding this,” Roxas said. He joined President Aquino in the groundbreaking rites here for the Philippine Academy for Aviation Training of Cebu Pacific and the Canadian aviation company CAE.

The preliminary cost of the proposed new rail is double the revised cost of the NorthRail, a report showed.

Roxas said talks between the Philippine and Chinese governments have been continuing since Chinese officials informed the government last year that it could provide bigger funding for a high-speed rail.

Read More: http://business.inquirer.net/41423/naia-clark-high-speed-rail-project-to-cost-2b

So it looks like 5J is trying to follow the steps of JetStar Airways which similarly launch long haul flight with A330-200 to Japan

A little note: just because it is an A330-300 doesnt mean it must do long hauls :D

5J can always boost capacity in their existing 3 hour plus sectors, like in SIN, KUL and all .. based on demand ..

I'm guessing that 5J will also use their 330's on high-demand shorthauls like HKG and SIN (or even domestic to CEB) to increase the 330's utilization between the longhaul's. PAL already does this by flying the 747 to HKG during the daytime before it leaves again for LAX late at night.

So it looks like 5J is trying to follow the steps of JetStar Airways which similarly launch long haul flight with A330-200 to Japan

Oo nga. At connecting flight yan, kasama pa ang MNL. So magiging SIN-MNL-NRT or SIN-MNL-KIX. :)

5J to Brazil! Nice. Sakto sa 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics!

And Filipinos can enter Brazil visa-free

Philippine Airlines or Cebu Pacific to Denpasar (Bali)?

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40 new airline routes set to open this year
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/01/31/40-new-airline-routes-set-open-year.html

At least 40 new airline routes will link the country’s cities this year as flight services are expanded to meet surging demand from local travellers, a Transportation Ministry senior official said.

“As of Jan. 30, we are processing as many as 21 new routes that will be opened this year, and the figure may double in April,” the ministry’s air transportation director Djoko Murjatmodjo told The Jakarta Post on Monday.

The 21 new routes consist of 16 domestic routes and five international routes, he said.

The new routes will include Ternate–Morotai, Makassar–Muna, Pangkalanbun–Solo, Pangkalanbun –Pontianak, Biak–Manokwari, Kupang–Larantuka and Banjarmasin –Solo.

The Ternate–Morotai route will be opened to support the Sail Morotai maritime promotion campaign that will be held in the third quarter of 2012, he said, adding that the new service would be provided by Travel Express airline.

“This is also part of building infrastructure in the east part of Indonesia, which in the end will bring wealth and prosperity to its people,” he said.

For the international routes, he said that the five new routes were Tarakan–Tawau City (Sabah, Malaysia), Denpasar–Tokyo via Haneda airport, Denpasar–Manila, Jakarta –Mumbai (India) and Jakarta–New Delhi.

The Tarakan–Tawau City route will be managed by Malaysia based airline MASwings, Denpasar–Haneda by national flag carrier Garuda Indonesia, and both routes to India will be managed by the new full-service player Pacific Royale.

“The Denpasar–Manila route will be served by Philippines Airlines and Cebu Pacific,” he added.

Throughout 2011, there were 26 new domestic routes and five international routes opened that connected different cities across the archipelago, such as Bandung–Semarang, Denpasar–Malang, Medan–Surabaya, Jakarta–Shenzen, Jakarta–Nanning and Semarang–Kuala Lumpur.

The opening of the new routes helped the government meet its target of increasing air passengers by 15 percent last year.

Based on the ministry’s recent data, the number of domestic and international travelers reached 58.84 million and 7.2 million in 2011, respectively.

At the end of 2010, the figure of domestic travelers was 51.7 million, while international travelers reached 6.6 million.

Meanwhile, privately owned Pacific Royale will start operations in March, with two Airbus A320-200s and two Fokker 50s.

The airline has secured approval to fly 81 routes, 70 percent of which will be domestic.

Mandala Airlines may also resume flight services on its existing 16 domestic routes and four international routes in February. (nfo)

I´m sure they will also deploy their A 330 birds to Japan. Only then will they receive more slots to other cities besides Osaka. Japans airspace is crowded so they actually only accept widebodies. 5Js flight with A 320 to Osaka is an "expensive" exception.

^^ thats right. One reason why Cebu Pacific cannot fly to Tokyo Narita. It would be great to see Cebu Pacific in Narita.

BTW with the pic Lance is Holding holding the A330 Engine seems to be RollsRoyce Trent 768s or 772 (like Cathay and Singapore Airlines A330. there are more economical Engines and give the A330 more range than General Electric CF6-80E1A2s, engines which are like what PAL and Qantas uses in they're A330.

Rolls Royce engines are also much larger than its GE counterpart.

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Rolls Royce at full load this Trent will allow Cebu Pacific to Fly A330 up to 8600km from Manila-Auk would be easy...more flexibility.
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I hope Cebu Pacific uses the Rolls Royce engines are it would give them better option and range for more possible future routes. It can easily handle a 10 hour manila- Auckland route. not bad for medium range airliner. I do suspect though

What ever happened to that image of a 747 with the Spirit of Manila Airlines livery ? Was it true or just a photoshopped fake ?

[QUOTE=Sou-jiro;88117074]^^ thats right. One reason why Cebu Pacific cannot fly to Tokyo Narita. It would be great to see Cebu Pacific in Narita.

Yes indeed Sou-jiro that would be wonderful ! And possibly 5J would fly to other Japanese destinations as well. Just look at PAL, servicing 4 cities in beautiful Japan.

I´m sure they will also deploy their A 330 birds to Japan. Only then will they receive more slots to other cities besides Osaka. Japans airspace is crowded so they actually only accept widebodies. 5Js flight with A 320 to Osaka is an "expensive" exception.

^^ thats right. One reason why Cebu Pacific cannot fly to Tokyo Narita. It would be great to see Cebu Pacific in Narita.



Actually Cebu Pacific can fly to "Tokyo" if they want to even with their current 320's, it will just have to be via Ibaraki Airport (http://www.ibaraki-airport.net/en/index.html), which was built to accommodate low cost airlines. The only disadvantage is Ibaraki Airport is further away from Tokyo than even Narita, but if the price is right, I'm sure 5J would make that succesful in the same way they did their Osaka route (Osaka did reduce the landing fees they charge airlines by quite a bit, which is why 5J is able to operate in a normally "expensive" airport).

What ever happened to that image of a 747 with the Spirit of Manila Airlines livery ? Was it true or just a photoshopped fake ?

^^ i believe it was photoshopped.

Actually Cebu Pacific can fly to "Tokyo" if they want to even with their current 320's, it will just have to be via Ibaraki Airport (http://www.ibaraki-airport.net/en/index.html), which was built to accommodate low cost airlines. The only disadvantage is Ibaraki Airport is further away from Tokyo than even Narita, but if the price is right, I'm sure 5J would make that succesful in the same way they did their Osaka route (Osaka did reduce the landing fees they charge airlines by quite a bit, which is why 5J is able to operate in a normally "expensive" airport).

I see, interesting. Thank you for your info krazy816 !:cheers:

^^ i believe it was photoshopped.

Thats a shame, but possibly in future. They do have them on their website/fleet page. I really like the livery of Spirit of Manila !

excatly thats what i was referring too...Narita can get more out of a Cebu Pacific Widebody. But they were not able to lower expanses in Narita as compared to Osaka.

excatly thats what i was referring too...Narita can get more out of a Cebu Pacific Widebody. But they were not able to lower expanses in Narita as compared to Osaka.

The other problem for 5J serving Narita is that Narita is a slot-restricted airport and that there may be no more aircraft slots available as they might all be used up by current operators (PR/JL/NH). This is why Ibaraki would suit 5J much better for flights to "Tokyo" (quotation marks because Ibaraki is actually 80km away from Tokyo, about the same distance as Clark is from Manila) as there are no slot restrictions plus Ibaraki was specifically designed for LCC's with landing fees 33% lower than Narita and 50% lower than Haneda, and 5J can fly to Ibaraki now with their current 320's which is what Spring Airlines and Asiana do to/from Shanghai and Seoul, respectively.

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Is this carrier on operation?

I think CebuPacific is expecting a category status upgrade...

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!

With CAT 1 possibly looming PAL is looking to expand routes.

Cebu Pacific looking to move into medium to possibly long haul routes.

I wonder if Zest Air will make any expansion moves at all...surely they'll do something even just a bit. Heck even Air Phils has shown growth.

Zest Air seems to have been stagnant. What happen to the plan to acquire 767s?....not enough routes.

Apologies for a late reaction. Looking forward to this agressive visions of 5J materialize. It has a long way to go in this market.

Indeed, it appears like PR and 5J are expecting a Cat1 after this year's audit. It's already established that it's planning to mount a JFK flight, possibly via YVR. Now we have more options for more competitive prices. The other good deals are offered by KE and EK both using their superjumbos for their JFK flights.

Meanwhile, I got this info from somebody working with CO (now United Continental). They're planning to fly direct to MNL from SFO. It's a good news. Confirms past rumours.

Again, that remains to be confirmed, so please don't quote me on this. :D

I wonder what happened to Turkish Airlines! It will be a very good option when flying to Eastern Europe or Northern Africa. It serves several lesser known European cities that none of the ME carriers flying to MNL currently serve.

when a plane is being leased, is it a brand new plane or used?

when 5J starts with their long haul flights they will be able to handle loads of luggages because planes are design to carry cargos. typically for an economy flight, comes with a free checked in luggage, which is a waste of space and no income is added to their profit. therefore 5J encourages you to travel light and gives passengers the incentive of 100 pesos off your plane fare each way so they can open up their cargo space for perishable items which they can charge higher fees and this maximizes their profit.

notice, they also allow you to purchase excess luggage 24hrs prior to your scheduled flight if you want to check in a luggage up to a maximum of 30 kilos per passenger for 400 pesos? but what is the likelyhood that you will check and make sure your total weight is 30 kilos? ang pinoy mahilig mag dala ng kong ano ano. if you exceed the allowable weight, you will be charged 100 pesos per kilo, which add again to their profit.

on international flights, a passenger is usually given 2 pieces of free checked in luggages weighing 32 kilos each. how many flights from NAIA transitting to the provinces? a lot..with the maximum of 30 kilos allowed per passenger on a regular fare, coming from an international flight you automatically have an excess of 34 kilos times 100 per kilo, the total charge for your excess is more than 3K pesos. more money for 5J again ha? right...dang! no wonder, despite the high cost of fuel, they're still making profits.

This is the same strategy when airlines overbook flights to ensure that the plane will be full because the chances of some numbers of passengers who will miss the flight is high. Overbooking lessens the chances of a flight having empty seats. What the airlines usually offer is either they move you to the next flight or offer you a free flight but that is rare because flight are never full except on holidays.

budget airlines make a lot of profits on late passengers because your tickets has strick restrictions such as gate closes 45 minutes before boarding, higher chances of not making it because promo tickets are non-rebookable and non-transferable. you will have to buy a new ticket and since you bought the ticket on the same day, the ticket is a regular price and is priced higher compared to a promo ticket which cheap and is sold on certain dates only.

oh ya before you go through the xray, they physically check your carry-on luggage and makes sure it is within the weight limit because if it exceeds the required weight limit and you opted to fly light, they will make you check your luggage and charge you 100 pesos per kilo. I guess it all adds up and this is how CEB is successful.

when a plane is being leased, is it a brand new plane or used?

when 5J starts with their long haul flights they will be able to handle loads of luggages because planes are design to carry cargos. typically for an economy flight, comes with a free checked in luggage, which is a waste of space and no income is added to their profit. therefore 5J encourages you to travel light and gives passengers the incentive of 100 pesos off your plane fare each way so they can open up their cargo space for perishable items which they can charge higher fees and this maximizes their profit.

notice, they also allow you to purchase excess luggage 24hrs prior to your scheduled flight if you want to check in a luggage up to a maximum of 30 kilos per passenger for 400 pesos? but what is the likelyhood that you will check and make sure your total weight is 30 kilos? ang pinoy mahilig mag dala ng kong ano ano. if you exceed the allowable weight, you will be charged 100 pesos per kilo, which add again to their profit.

international flights usually is given a 2 pieces of free checked in luggages weighing 32 kilos each. how many flights from NAIA transitting to the provinces? a lot..more money for 5J again ha? right...

This is the same strategy when airlines overbook flights to ensure that the plane will be full because the chances of some numbers of passengers who will miss the flight is high. Overbooking lessens the chances of a flight having empty seats. What the airlines usually offer is either they move you to the next flight or offer you a free flight but that is rare because flight are never full except holidays.

budget airlines make a lot of profits on late passengers because your tickets has strick restrictions such as gate closes 45 minutes before boarding, higher chances of not making it because promo tickets are non-rebookable and non-transferable. you will have to buy a new ticket and since you bought the ticket in the same day it is priced higher compared to a promo ticket which is sold on certain dates only.

further, 5J allow passengers to add 24hrs prior to ones schedule flight to purchase excess/checked in luggage in increments of such and such amount, i think 5 kilos up to a maximum of 30 kilos. ang alam ko 30 kilos for 400 pesos.

oh ya they also make sure that your carry-on luggage is within the weight limit because if it exceed and you opted to fly light, they will make you check your luggage and charge you 100 pesos per kilo. I guess it all adds up and this is how CEB is successful.

Cebu Pacific no longer offers P100 discount for those travelling light: now the fares listed on their website are without any checked-in luggage meaning passengers will now have to pay for luggage being checked in (15, 20 or 30kg).

Also the 2 free checked in luggage at 32kg each only applies on flights going to/from the US and Canada, and has actually been reduced to 2x23kg a few years ago (with some exceptions like PR's MNL-HNL route which is still 2x32kg). For international flights not going to/from the US and Canada, the free luggage allowance is normally only a total of 20kg. To avoid surprise excess luggage charges, I always suggest to buy one of those handheld luggage scales sold at travel shops to take the guesswork out of just how much your luggage weighs:okay:

Philippine Airlines or Cebu Pacific to Denpasar (Bali)?

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40 new airline routes set to open this year
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/01/31/40-new-airline-routes-set-open-year.html

At least 40 new airline routes will link the country’s cities this year as flight services are expanded to meet surging demand from local travellers, a Transportation Ministry senior official said.

“As of Jan. 30, we are processing as many as 21 new routes that will be opened this year, and the figure may double in April,” the ministry’s air transportation director Djoko Murjatmodjo told The Jakarta Post on Monday.

The 21 new routes consist of 16 domestic routes and five international routes, he said.

The new routes will include Ternate–Morotai, Makassar–Muna, Pangkalanbun–Solo, Pangkalanbun –Pontianak, Biak–Manokwari, Kupang–Larantuka and Banjarmasin –Solo.

The Ternate–Morotai route will be opened to support the Sail Morotai maritime promotion campaign that will be held in the third quarter of 2012, he said, adding that the new service would be provided by Travel Express airline.

“This is also part of building infrastructure in the east part of Indonesia, which in the end will bring wealth and prosperity to its people,” he said.

For the international routes, he said that the five new routes were Tarakan–Tawau City (Sabah, Malaysia), Denpasar–Tokyo via Haneda airport, Denpasar–Manila, Jakarta –Mumbai (India) and Jakarta–New Delhi.

The Tarakan–Tawau City route will be managed by Malaysia based airline MASwings, Denpasar–Haneda by national flag carrier Garuda Indonesia, and both routes to India will be managed by the new full-service player Pacific Royale.

“The Denpasar–Manila route will be served by Philippines Airlines and Cebu Pacific,” he added.

Throughout 2011, there were 26 new domestic routes and five international routes opened that connected different cities across the archipelago, such as Bandung–Semarang, Denpasar–Malang, Medan–Surabaya, Jakarta–Shenzen, Jakarta–Nanning and Semarang–Kuala Lumpur.

The opening of the new routes helped the government meet its target of increasing air passengers by 15 percent last year.

Based on the ministry’s recent data, the number of domestic and international travelers reached 58.84 million and 7.2 million in 2011, respectively.

At the end of 2010, the figure of domestic travelers was 51.7 million, while international travelers reached 6.6 million.

Meanwhile, privately owned Pacific Royale will start operations in March, with two Airbus A320-200s and two Fokker 50s.

The airline has secured approval to fly 81 routes, 70 percent of which will be domestic.

Mandala Airlines may also resume flight services on its existing 16 domestic routes and four international routes in February. (nfo)

YES BALI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Soon Phuket!!!!

This is what I'm saying.. Filipinos are getting closer to beach and tourism havens.. Tourism in the Philippines should level-up and compete now with a more liberal and free flowing access of People and trade across Southeast Asia.. If we are left out, soon Filipinos will be one of their prized tourists and huge decline of local tourist patronizing our local tourism sites..Not too soon Bali and Phuket will be the next beach destination of people from greater manila area as ticket prices goes lower.. it is also cheaper and value for money is better in those areas..

yes, we dont have enough beaches here...