20 injured on Manila-Tokyo flight, turbulence suspected (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/20/09/20-injured-manila-tokyo-flight-turbulence-suspected)
Agence France-Presse | 02/20/2009 2:33 PM


"It is possible that the people injured did not have their seatbelts on, otherwise all of the 422 passengers would have been injured as well."

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Somehow I would agree with you. How come you would fly on the air if you have put your seat belts on. I supposed this is another passenger stupidity not following the seat belt alarm as directed. And there are plenty of them injured too!

Lessons learned. DON'T BE STUPID. You will never know when its gotta hit you! Sometimes I do act the same way though.:weird:


This happened to us also some four years ago, that last time i went to the Philippines. It seems like there is always this big air pocket when you are getting closer to Japan for some reason. It's like every single time, there is this turbulance around that same area. That last time we experienced it, the NWA plane pretty much dip down a few hundred feet it seems like, you would hear people almost sceaming. Two of the passengers had panic attack that almost mimic a heart attack that the crew needed to ask if there was a doctor on board, fortunately there were two filipino Physicians and they volunteered to check the two passengers.

That 30 mins time before landing is when people usually try to get ready, alot would try and use the lavatory or freshen up then they get back on their seats, I mean we can't totally blame the passengers for trying to get ready for landing especially those who are supposed to get off the plane down to Tokyo, their destinations.

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And more than 20 people are lining in the lavatory to freshen themselves while the plane is already on approach and while seat belt signs are on too. Thats interesting! Very interesting. I've never seen such kind of attitude in all my travels. Particularly with belts sign in active.

For those who might have known someone onboard NW 2. (http://www.nwa.com/features/response.html)

Here's to the fast recovery of those involved in this incident.

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Somehow I would agree with you. How come you would fly on the air if you have put your seat belts on. I supposed this is another passenger stupidity not following the seat belt alarm as directed. And there are plenty of them injured too!

Lessons learned. DON'T BE STUPID. You will never know when its gotta hit you! Sometimes I do act the same way though.:weird:

Indeed, when you fasten your own seatbelt, you don't do yourself a favor, but also to the pax around you. :/

This happened to us also some four years ago, that last time i went to the Philippines. It seems like there is always this big air pocket when you are getting closer to Japan for some reason. It's like every single time, there is this turbulance around that same area. That last time we experienced it, the NWA plane pretty much dip down a few hundred feet it seems like, you would hear people almost sceaming. Two of the passengers had panic attack that almost mimic a heart attack that the crew needed to ask if there was a doctor on board, fortunately there were two filipino Physicians and they volunteered to check the two passengers.



The airspace around NRT can indeed be very bumpy around this time of the year. I've had my fair share of roller coaster rides into Narita back when I lived in Japan, but thankfully none of which were to serious.

baka siguro dahil yun sa pacific's bermuda triangle or the Dragon Triangle...:D it's about 100km south of tokyo sabi sa google...

:shocked: Say what!? Did she just said "penis?" :rofl:

jpLxg4yXXTU
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpLxg4yXXTU)

^^ yes, several times. Maybe they DO serve that on NW flights already! Expect a flood of bookings from matrons and fairies!!:naughty:

SQ keeps Manila, cuts the rest of Asia
Singapore Airlines to keep its 3x daily B777 frequency

February 21, 2009

Singapore - The world’s largest airline by market value intends to keep Manila frequency as it is despite its announcement Monday on its plan to cut capacity by 11 percent in the year from April this year to March 2010 as travel and cargo demand wanes. The airline announces slash of its capacity after quarterly profit ending December fell the most in at least five years.



Singapore Airlines (SIAL.SI) remains bullish on the Philippine market as the only country in Asia Pacific registering positive growth in the industry mostly fueled by OFW movements. Traffic in Asia declined by 13.5% in December from the same period a year ago, and decreased by 3.4% in 2008 from the preceding year.The company has seen declining passenger demand and had already cut flights to various Asian cities.

"The drop in demand owing to the global economic slowdown is the driver of the reduction in capacity," says the airline. It adds that it "will continue to monitor demand patterns and will make changes to its network when necessary".

According to International Air Transport Association (IATA), Asia-Pacific passenger traffic sank 9.7 percent in December, while freight volumes tumbled 26 percent. The traffic declines for both passengers and freight were the biggest of any region, the trade group added.

Civil Aeronautics Board executive director Carmelo Arcilla said that CAB could not provide local data to validate the global scene, since it was still collating statistical reports from airlines but initial data indicate that the Philippines has yet to feel the full effect of the global financial crisis. Meanwhile, Secretary Ace Durano of the Department of Tourism reported on Thursday that the Philippines received 3.14 million foreign tourists last year, significantly lower than its 3.5 million target. Its annual growth percentage was however higher compared to the other Asian region which registered a negative growth. Durano said he expects the trend to continue and the industry to post a flat foreign tourists growth or possibly continuing decline in arrivals, but growing OFW deployment will fuel the industry's modest growth this year.

Singapore Airlines also announces a simultaneous cutback of its more than 120 widebody aircraft fleet from both Airbus and Boeing. Its cutbacks comprise frequency reductions across its network or downsizing of aircraft, for example 777-300ERs are replacing Boeing 747-400s on some services such as to San Francisco (via Hong Kong) and London Heathrow. The airline has 51 planes on order from Airbus and 21 on order from Boeing.


“We have not yet deferred any aircraft deliveries yet, but are examining options to do so,” said Stephen Forshaw, the Singapore Air spokesman. “Our deliveries of new aircraft are not just about growth, but also to adhere to our long-standing policy of fleet renewal,” he said.

Manila remains a top market for passenger traffic in Asia Pacific registering a growth rate of 11.9% based on Changi Airport data for 2008. It followed second to Vietnam at 17%. In the region, the sectors of Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam are the most active.

Four airlines have 9 daily flights between Singapore and Manila connecting more than 15,000 passengers a week.

:shocked: Say what!? Did she just said "penis?" :rofl:

jpLxg4yXXTU
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpLxg4yXXTU)

she said it twice!!!!...hahahahaha....maybe she misses it so much...:nuts:

pe- pe- penis pe- pe- peanuts.

This happened to us also some four years ago, that last time i went to the Philippines. It seems like there is always this big air pocket when you are getting closer to Japan for some reason. It's like every single time, there is this turbulance around that same area. That last time we experienced it, the NWA plane pretty much dip down a few hundred feet it seems like, you would hear people almost sceaming. Two of the passengers had panic attack that almost mimic a heart attack that the crew needed to ask if there was a doctor on board, fortunately there were two filipino Physicians and they volunteered to check the two passengers.

That 30 mins time before landing is when people usually try to get ready, alot would try and use the lavatory or freshen up then they get back on their seats, I mean we can't totally blame the passengers for trying to get ready for landing especially those who are supposed to get off the plane down to Tokyo, their destinations.

It happened to me also that was 1998 from Nagoya to Detroit 15 passengers was injured including the FA. that was 15 mins before we landed.

:shocked: Say what!? Did she just said "penis?" :rofl:

jpLxg4yXXTU
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpLxg4yXXTU)
Say what?!! :eek: :rofl: :hilarious:

^^ Well it wasn't that much of a stretch of the imagination. Nuts + Penis, they always come as a package. :lol: "Package," no pun intended, of course. ;)

^^ pea-nits? does that mean our "peanits" came from Georgia? :lol:

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And more than 20 people are lining in the lavatory to freshen themselves while the plane is already on approach and while seat belt signs are on too. Thats interesting! Very interesting. I've never seen such kind of attitude in all my travels. Particularly with belts sign in active.

Well, you know how it is mostly even for foreigners, after a few hours of being in your seat and knowing that when you get out of the aircraft, in your mind when you get out of the aircraft you would want to atleast look decent especially the women or you wanna get yourself ready when you get out of the aircraft you don't want to be dragging your carry on luggages around just to get to the nearest washrooms like for instance in Tokyo, the nearest one is on the 1st level so you would have to get down the stairs to use the men's or ladies room.

747 has over 300 passengers in it, so 20 people lining up in a lavatory sounds just about right, in 30 mins before touch down plus a few more mins to wait in line and get on another gate if you are in transit, you do want to atleast make sure you don't have to use the toilet, waiting for the door to open takes time as well and you can't just run to the lavatory when all people are already standing up getting their belongings from the overhead bin. remember? they said this happen 30 mins prior to landing.

You sounded like you are always in a first class or business class travels so yes, you probably never observe anything like that, as to us who are tight wads or pay for our own airfare, we just try and ignore the crampness in a NWA economy class because we wanted to be more practical because our personal travel is not covered by our company. I know these because whenever my company pay for my travel and put me in first class, i'm in heaven and makes use of all the frebies my company gave me.

Got a question about airline industry:

As we all know that the airlines sometimes (or most of the time) increase their scheduled flights during peak seasons like Summer and December, so they earn a lot, operate a lot...but what happens every off-peak season? What happen to the utilization of the planes and the profits since there would be a decline in passenger and traffic?

Thanks if you could clarify it. :)

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Its the time when airlines usually do the heavy checks.

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In the case of some carriers like leisure carriers, they do short-term or wet lease to other carriers or entities for charter purposes. You see Garuda Indonesia, for example flying pilgrims to the Hajj using various aircraft leased from several European leisure carriers.

Some European/ US carriers have the ability to swap planes across their network. When it's lean season for one market, it may be peak for another market.

Cebu Pacific in talks with SQ for triple seven

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LCC airline, Cebu Pacific is in talks with Singapore Airlines for their 4 Boeing 777-212 aircraft slated for retirement this year. The airline intends to fly it as early as November in time for the holiday rush with the land down under as its first destination.

Singapore Airlines is retiring their old triple seven as new Airbus 330 joins their fleet by March this year. the 777 base model birds are relatively young at 12 years old. Probably they were the first at SQ's fleet.

Singapore Airlines Temasek Holdings and Cebu Pacific's Summit already agreed for joint MRO facility at Clark slated for completion this year.

Cebu Pacific intends to fly these birds to Australia, Japan and the Middle East. No wonder Lance made a statement flying to the Middle East because he has birds at his disposal soon. Presently, Cebu Pacific is just waiting for the New ASA between RP and Australia in March before they say its a go for them.

The airline neither confirms nor deny the story. All they can say is its not official yet. Maybe they are agreeing on the price or was it agreed already. Lets find out soon if they meet halfway. :)

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As for the pictures above, I just like it.

^^ wow.. that's a good news...
baka magiging kulelat na ang PAL sa kanilang 773 orders... and to think 5J's gambles to fly in Middle East... surrender nga ang PAL... hehe
well.. let's just see how will Lance play on it... :)

na experience ko din yung turbulence dyan sa NW flight papuntang Narita. parang pinatay nga nung pilot yung engines for a few seconds. then parang nagfree fall. parang dinudukot ang tiyan ko.

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Cebu Pacific in talks with SQ for triple seven

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LCC airline, Cebu Pacific is in talks with Singapore Airlines for their 4 Boeing 777-212 aircraft slated for retirement this year. The airline intends to fly it as early as November in time for the holiday rush with the land down under as its first destination.

Singapore Airlines is retiring their old triple seven as new Airbus 330 joins their fleet by March this year. the 777 base model birds are relatively young at 12 years old. Probably they were the first at SQ's fleet.

Singapore Airlines Temasek Holdings and Cebu Pacific's Summit already agreed for joint MRO facility at Clark slated for completion this year.

Cebu Pacific intends to fly these birds to Australia, Japan and the Middle East. No wonder Lance made a statement flying to the Middle East because he has birds at his disposal soon. Presently, Cebu Pacific is just waiting for the New ASA between RP and Australia in March before they say its a go for them.

The airline neither confirms nor deny the story. All they can say is its not official yet. Maybe they are agreeing on the price or was it agreed already. Lets find out soon if they meet halfway. :)

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As for the pictures above, I just like it.

holy smoke ! :banana:

cebu pacific really is expanding without respect to any global crunch ! :banana:

would be great to see 777s at T3 with that bright yellow-orange livery ! :banana:

Cebu Pacific in talks with SQ for triple seven

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/8/6/1455682.jpg

LCC airline, Cebu Pacific is in talks with Singapore Airlines for their 4 Boeing 777-212 aircraft slated for retirement this year. The airline intends to fly it as early as November in time for the holiday rush with the land down under as its first destination.

Singapore Airlines is retiring their old triple seven as new Airbus 330 joins their fleet by March this year. the 777 base model birds are relatively young at 12 years old. Probably they were the first at SQ's fleet.

Singapore Airlines Temasek Holdings and Cebu Pacific's Summit already agreed for joint MRO facility at Clark slated for completion this year.

Cebu Pacific intends to fly these birds to Australia, Japan and the Middle East. No wonder Lance made a statement flying to the Middle East because he has birds at his disposal soon. Presently, Cebu Pacific is just waiting for the New ASA between RP and Australia in March before they say its a go for them.

The airline neither confirms nor deny the story. All they can say is its not official yet. Maybe they are agreeing on the price or was it agreed already. Lets find out soon if they meet halfway. :)

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As for the pictures above, I just like it.

and i thought RP carriers will have an all Airbus fleet...thats a relief even though i'm an Airbus fan...:cheers:

^^^ Sometimes when the opportunity knocks, you just have to grab it.

I think 5j will kill PAL's business that PAL might work on an LCC type of service. But somehow 5J would really have to fight really hard on these longer haul international flights because the passengers would really look into services, for instance, if you have to buy your meal in a 8 hour flight. PAL would really have to opt buy B777ER so they can offer direct services to the east coast to and from Manila.

^^ i wonder if 5J would still serve C2 on long haul flights with 777-200... then they really sucks... haha.. :lol: :bash:

If 5J is going to service B777s (widebodies) on their route network, then they can't be considered an LCC anymore.

thanks for your scratched out faces-tour. :ohno:
now BACK TO TOPICS.

thank you :)

you're very welcome :).....back to topics...

i just love aerials....

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from naia 2..

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to la...
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aboard pal 747...

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inside the cockpit of pal 747...with my uncle who has a condo in honolulu..


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you see majaba.....i was born into a family of pilots...three of my first cousins fly international..b747s..all very successful...one cousin owns a flat in orchard rd..singapore...

i am a frustrated pilot...was rejected because i am color-blind...:ohno:

in my job.. i train people how to deal with sudden in-flight decompression ....i hang out with pilots...my boss is even a pilot...:nuts:

so just allow me to vent my frustrations by posting everything..(until kimber bans me).. about flying.....airplanes... airports....airlines....pilots...

^^ :lol: You haven't crossed the line for banning....yet. ;) In fact I enjoy viewing your photos. :okay:

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:sly: Hmm....are you sure this is LAX? I don't see the "horseshoe" layout of the terminals.

Cebu Pacific in talks with SQ for triple seven

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/8/6/1455682.jpg

LCC airline, Cebu Pacific is in talks with Singapore Airlines for their 4 Boeing 777-212 aircraft slated for retirement this year. The airline intends to fly it as early as November in time for the holiday rush with the land down under as its first destination.

Singapore Airlines is retiring their old triple seven as new Airbus 330 joins their fleet by March this year. the 777 base model birds are relatively young at 12 years old. Probably they were the first at SQ's fleet.

Singapore Airlines Temasek Holdings and Cebu Pacific's Summit already agreed for joint MRO facility at Clark slated for completion this year.

Cebu Pacific intends to fly these birds to Australia, Japan and the Middle East. No wonder Lance made a statement flying to the Middle East because he has birds at his disposal soon. Presently, Cebu Pacific is just waiting for the New ASA between RP and Australia in March before they say its a go for them.

The airline neither confirms nor deny the story. All they can say is its not official yet. Maybe they are agreeing on the price or was it agreed already. Lets find out soon if they meet halfway. :)

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/0/4/0057403.jpg

As for the pictures above, I just like it.

If indeed Cebu Pacific gets these 777 aircraft, this will signal some serious competition for PAL on international routes. SQs 777s are in good condition. I have flown on SQ 777s though i dont know if those i took were one of those 12 year old aircraft. Granted that all these pan out, CebPac gets to fly the 777s this November, almost at the same time as PAL? PAL will be using the 777s for US while Ceb Pac gets to use them on the Mid East, Australia routes. Great going CebPac!!!

And sorry if this is random. The new SQ A330s, are these new generation? or are they the same as PAL's?

:sly: Hmm....are you sure this is LAX? I don't see the "horseshoe" layout of the terminals.
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my bad...you're right..that was jfk international airport

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this is lax...

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thanks for the correction...:)

you are sharp..no wonder they made you a mod..:banana: i hope jan gives you a raise..:cheers:

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If 5J is going to service B777s (widebodies) on their route network, then they can't be considered an LCC anymore.

On the contrary Kimber. Remember Air Asia X is flying long haul as far as London this March on wide bodies. Yet it remains an LCC carrier. All its seats for 6 months are already sold. Qantas LCC Jetstar Airways fly widebodies on long haul from Australia to Tokyo. There is no reason why 5J can't do the same thing flying to the Middle East. And considering the market they intend to serve, I think they will succeed. Also consider that Jetstar is having a heyday in Tokyo.

See this link (http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/2009/02/17/airasia-x-to-london-long-haul-low-cost-arrives-in-europe---seriously/page1) and how 5J intends to seat the 777.

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If indeed Cebu Pacific gets these 777 aircraft, this will signal some serious competition for PAL on international routes. SQs 777s are in good condition. I have flown on SQ 777s though i dont know if those i took were one of those 12 year old aircraft. Granted that all these pan out, CebPac gets to fly the 777s this November, almost at the same time as PAL? PAL will be using the 777s for US while Ceb Pac gets to use them on the Mid East, Australia routes. Great going CebPac!!!

And sorry if this is random. The new SQ A330s, are these new generation? or are they the same as PAL's?

Sure they will. Thats not all to it. If negotiations pushes through, they will be the first triple seven operator in the Philippines preceding PAL by about two weeks. At 12 years old, its relatively new comparable to PAL's widebody aircraft from Airbus.

The SQ A330's is the same jet as PAL have, but with more fuel efficient third generation Trent 772 engines. Trent 772C is a derivative of Trent 772B engine and features increased take-off and maximum continuous thrust over the B series. It were cleared for 180 minutes Extended-Range Twin-Engine Operations (ETOPS) by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) on April 20, 2006. I think its fuel efficiency is 11% better than the old ones.

The new engine is also designed for low noise, and low mature fuel burn which results to more range resulting to a much lower operating costs. Therefore it can fly farther as compared to that of PAL :)

ST. LOUIS, Feb. 04, 2009 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today submitted a proposal to the U.S. Air Force to participate as an associate prime contractor in the projected $1.6 billion A-10 Thunderbolt Life-Cycle Program Support (TLPS) contract to support the sustainment of the A-10 Thunderbolt II weapon system and integration of current and future requirements.

"We are confident the Air Force will continue to recognize the resources and competencies that The Boeing Company brings to the warfighter," said Steve Waltman, director of Boeing Aircraft Sustainment & Maintenance, a subdivision of the company's Maintenance, Modifications & Upgrades division. "We are committed to the standard of excellence we have exhibited on the current A-10 Wing Replacement Program and, if selected, we will deliver the same outstanding level of customer satisfaction and performance on the TLPS contract."

Boeing won the $2 billion A-10 Wing Replacement Program contract in June 2007. The program includes engineering services and the manufacture of up to 242 wing sets for the Air Force's A-10 fleet. The program is on schedule as Boeing develops the 3-D models that provide the engineering foundation for current wing sustainment needs, design improvements to prevent cracking, and production of the enhanced wing sets.

"The Boeing solution for the A-10 Wing Replacement Program allows the A-10 fleet to fly for at least another 20 years, providing the close-air support our troops need," said Bill Moorefield, A-10 program manager for Boeing. "Our proposal for TLPS takes that one step further -- providing support for the aircraft fleet while ensuring relevance and viability through 2028 and beyond."

The Air Force will select up to three contractors to compete for individual task and delivery orders over the life of the contract. Work will include avionics, mechanical, structural, and propulsion system upgrade work and a program integration support task.

The A-10, also known as the Warthog, was first introduced into the Air Force inventory in 1976. The twin-engine aircraft provides close-air support of ground forces and employs a wide variety of conventional munitions, including general-purpose bombs. The simple, effective and survivable single-seat aircraft can be used against all ground targets, including tanks and other armored vehicles. The aircraft is currently supporting operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.


source: boeing (http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2009/q1/090204d_nr.html) news release

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^^ imo, it was relevant.. there were photos of planes and airports... and besides, it's your choice if you want to "cover" your face...;)


thanks for your kind support....:cheers:


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^^ So, Boeing would revive those Fairchild-Republic A-10? Those are nasty planes in combat. I only saw them in training videos and when they were park in Barksdale Air Force Base, La. They must have revived all of those that got junked in AMARC.

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Cebu Pacific in talks with SQ for triple seven

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/8/6/1455682.jpg

LCC airline, Cebu Pacific is in talks with Singapore Airlines for their 4 Boeing 777-212 aircraft slated for retirement this year. The airline intends to fly it as early as November in time for the holiday rush with the land down under as its first destination.

Singapore Airlines is retiring their old triple seven as new Airbus 330 joins their fleet by March this year. the 777 base model birds are relatively young at 12 years old. Probably they were the first at SQ's fleet.

Singapore Airlines Temasek Holdings and Cebu Pacific's Summit already agreed for joint MRO facility at Clark slated for completion this year.

Cebu Pacific intends to fly these birds to Australia, Japan and the Middle East. No wonder Lance made a statement flying to the Middle East because he has birds at his disposal soon. Presently, Cebu Pacific is just waiting for the New ASA between RP and Australia in March before they say its a go for them.

The airline neither confirms nor deny the story. All they can say is its not official yet. Maybe they are agreeing on the price or was it agreed already. Lets find out soon if they meet halfway. :)

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/0/4/0057403.jpg

As for the pictures above, I just like it.

CebuPac also tried to lease some SQ 744s when retirement began. SQ wanted it disposed of a few months earlier than 5J and talks broke down. Let's see what happens now.

4x 777s seems quite a "lot."

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And sorry if this is random. The new SQ A330s, are these new generation? or are they the same as PAL's?

SQ has the A330-343Xs. PAL's are A330-301s

^^ So, Boeing would revive those Fairchild-Republic A-10? Those are nasty planes in combat. I only saw them in training videos and when they were park in Barksdale Air Force Base, La. They must have revived all of those that got junked in AMARC.

I saw once a fully loaded A-10 took off at Kirkland AFB, New Mexico when I was assigned there. This plane had a rocket assisted takeoff engine for a few second and used only a quarter of the runway. It was so loud that everybody at the tarmac stop working to watch the plane tookoff. I was working on a H53 helicopter late 70's. :)

:sly: Hmm....are you sure this is LAX? I don't see the "horseshoe" layout of the terminals.

well he's a frustrated pilot anyway, hehe... j/k... :)

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CebuPac also tried to lease some SQ 744s when retirement began. SQ wanted it disposed of a few months earlier than 5J and talks broke down. Let's see what happens now.

4x 777s seems quite a "lot."

That is not quite accurate. They never intended much more plan and considered the 744 on their fleet either from SQ or any other airline. What was originally proposed was the A330 but they have problems with financing, until opportunity knocks on their door for this deal. Right now they are busy punching numbers.

Even if I'm not from 5J I will categorically deny the 744 deal. From my previous conversations with one of its VP, nothing is mentioned about it much more its interest on west coast. Only big John wants to go there. As far as he is concerned the company intends to fly the routes I mentioned with particular preference to the land down under. Since the base 777 is a medium haul workhorse similar to the A330, it makes perfect sense for their growth plan. Why 4? Because 2 units are already planned to be deployed in Tokyo, Melbourne and Sydney while the remaining 2 is for the middle east market. What I'm not certain about is how many are in the deal actually and if their equipment is enough for the middle east route. Because eventually they will carry more passengers from that destination.

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its a good thing 5J will fly to middle east... even PAL didn't survive flying there because of competing Middle east carriers... a lot of OFW would benefit from this.. including my sister working in Dubai..

Virgin America's fun and innovative safety video. :colgate:

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LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyygn8HFTCo)

Virgin America's fun and innovative safety video. :colgate:

eyygn8HFTCo
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyygn8HFTCo)

This is cool I loved it!!!!! at its different from a traditional safety video......:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

you're very welcome :).....back to topics...

i just love aerials....



http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108naiapal74742.jpg

inside the cockpit of pal 747...with my uncle who has a condo in honolulu..


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you see majaba.....i was born into a family of pilots...three of my first cousins fly international..b747s..all very successful...one cousin owns a flat in orchard rd..singapore...

i am a frustrated pilot...was rejected because i am color-blind...:ohno:

in my job.. i train people how to deal with sudden in-flight decompression ....i hang out with pilots...my boss is even a pilot...:nuts:

so just allow me to vent my frustrations by posting everything..(until kimber bans me).. about flying.....airplanes... airports....airlines....pilots...

hello tonyboy,
don´t worry. you are fine with your decision to do what ever you like. we all are individuals and have the right to like or dislike anything. it´s not that i do not appreciate your contributions. i was just quoting that a tourist trip around the world is not a airline considered specific contribution (even if there is one or two aircraft photos in between) and was wondering why you scratch out your face ?

never mind, not so important. you have your reasons, i respect that.

i´m sorry you could not be a pilot due to your color-blindness. but you work within the airline industry and surely have a responsible and respectable job there. :)

for your convenience here is a link to my website : www.richardfischer.net. have a glance at what my job is if you wish. :lol:

best regards from M.

i hope both domaining philippine cariers will succeed with their respective expansion plans without getting in each others way. PAL and 5J both have their market eligibility and serve the filipino riding-public likewise appropriately.

i´d love to see two big healthy local airlines flying the world with their beautifull liverys.

as of now the "phillipine consept" proves to be stable are they primarily served by OFWs, quite a stable source of travelling income. :)

the runway of BXU aiport has been added the extension and Im not sure if its finished already... so currently BXU has 6000ft plus the extension... :cheers:

yeah its really short... but thing is that those plane can land on that airport.. even in Tagbilaran (RPVT) which has only roughly about 4800 ft runway can handle A319 & A320 planes.. Butuan (RPME) runway is about 6000ft...
yet PAL's A320 overshoot on the runway last year... :ohno:

that's why we have the most best pilot around.. I even think that our airports are like aircraft carrier, short runways for jets.. although no arresting cable installed... :nuts: :lol:

OT:
Here are some flight deck landing videos of Airbus from 5J's flight to Dipolog and Dumaguete.. courtesy from Capt. Manny "Windwalker" of PFSG

RPVD - Dumaguete - Rwy 09 approach (Parang Kai Tak or Madeira ang approach)
http://www.philskies.net/library/WW/videos/rpvd09.wmv

RPMG - Dipolog - Rwy 02 approach
http://www.philskies.net/library/WW/videos/rpvd09.wmv

more discussions....
http://www.philskies.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11405&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=RPMG

parang nag mukhang desierto ang PI dahil walang green man lang... hehehe... parang nasa dubai.... :cheers:

hello tonyboy,
don´t worry. you are fine with your decision to do what ever you like. we all are individuals and have the right to like or dislike anything. it´s not that i do not appreciate your contributions. i was just quoting that a tourist trip around the world is not a airline considered specific contribution (even if there is one or two aircraft photos in between) and was wondering why you scratch out your face ?

never mind, not so important. you have your reasons, i respect that.

i´m sorry you could not be a pilot due to your color-blindness. but you work within the airline industry and surely have a responsible and respectable job there. :)

for your convenience here is a link to my website : www.richardfischer.net. have a glance at what my job is if you wish. :lol:

best regards from M.

I wonder if 5J have pnas to fly to Seoul?

^^ They do fly to Seoul/ICN.

Virgin America's fun and innovative safety video. :colgate:

eyygn8HFTCo
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyygn8HFTCo)

I remember posting this video alongside Delta, Air France, Thai and Air Canada a few months back. The thread is now lost in the archives. I love the video because of it's sarcasm.

Still, I wish PAL will make a better video.

Cebu Pacific eyes routes to Middle Eastern cities

MANILA, Philippines - Cebu Pacific announced plans to fly non-stop from Manila to a number of Middle Eastern cities, betting that overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) will continue to be deployed to the region.

The company is just awaiting an air treaty between the Philippines and Middle Eastern countries for the plan to push through, Lance Y. Gokongwei, Cebu Pacific’s president and CEO said during a Tuesday briefing.

Cebu Pacific, the Philippines’ leading local airline, is capable of ferrying OFWs to and from the Middle East at more affordable rates, compared to its rivals.

“We’ve done the numbers, it’s doable. It makes financial sense," Gokongwei said.

By the end of this year, the company is expected to own some 21 airbuses and will purchase additional 10 aircraft between next year until 2012.

OFWs arriving or departing to and from the Middle East often complain of shortage in airplane seats, as several airline companies are unable to handle the large volume of Filipino visitors in the region.

Based on the latest labor statistics, five of the top 10 destinations of OFWs are Mideast countries such as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain.

Some 61,164 Filipinos left for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia – considered as a recession-proof country – as of January 15 this year, the Philippine Overseas Employment Administration data showed.

Other Middle East countries such as the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain were able to absorb more than 66,000 Filipino workers.

“Cheaper fares could also help our fellow Filipinos, especially OFWs, save a little bit more of their hard-earned money for their families," Gokongwei said.

Starting Feb. 18, Cebu Pacific will remove the surcharges on all international airfares. The move is expected to reduce year-round fares by as much as 17 percent. - GMANews.TV


wow, hopefully this works out and who knows , maybe they can extend one of their ME flights to Europe, maybe in 3 years.

Libyan national airline, Afriqiyah Airways, has confirmed that their new destinations for this summer include Manilla in the Philippines later in the year.Currently no schedules are available.

source: http://www.alternativeairlines.com/aa/news.cfm?ccs=214&cs=3512
source: http://www.afriqiyah99.eu/362.html?&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=456&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=363&cHash=ed59879212

So is this really true? Is there really so much demand to Libya that you can fill an A330, lets say 2x weekly? Do we have big OFW community in Libya?

^^sa sa T3 sila agad.

source: http://www.alternativeairlines.com/aa/news.cfm?ccs=214&cs=3512
source: http://www.afriqiyah99.eu/362.html?&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=456&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=363&cHash=ed59879212

So is this really true? Is there really so much demand to Libya that you can fill an A330, lets say 2x weekly? Do we have big OFW community in Libya?

well businessmen that they are...i don't think na mag oopen sila ng route na walang demand....malaman meron yan....

^^
@abnkat

Please read my previous post on that one in this thread. Your question can be answered there, or better yet visit this link (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/02/afriqiyah-airways-to-fly-manila.html).

I would definitely agree with kalbongdad. Businessman as they are, they would not operate the route if it can't be filled. Its common business sense.

Have all of PAL's 744s been transferred to the Philippine registry?

I know both N751PR and N752PR have been re-registered RP-C7471 and ~2, respectively, but how about N753PR?

^^
No. because they haven't all been paid yet. Technically, the US Banks still owns the US registered 744. 80% payment will generally allow carriers to re-register the plane. The purpose of that is for Bankruptcy protection. PAL will eventually own all the four this year. The fifth one is lease from Air Canada so it does not belong to them.

Thats why I said they will start accumulating big amounts of money more than $50 million dollars in 2010 because by that time only the widebodies from Airbus remains to be paid until 2014. That money can easily cover 4 additional widebodies. So having 2 A380 and 2 lease orders is not that remote for them. By 2014, all airbus item will then be cleared from the books so by that time they will be capable of having 12-16 new widebodies orders that is if they intend to take the A350-900.

If I'm Leahy of Airbus, I definitely would go after them. Because they will have the means to pay new aircraft now. If you take a look at their balance sheets on a year to year basis starting 2004, they are actually healthy and growing despite its fuel losses now.

source: http://www.alternativeairlines.com/aa/news.cfm?ccs=214&cs=3512
source: http://www.afriqiyah99.eu/362.html?&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=456&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=363&cHash=ed59879212

So is this really true? Is there really so much demand to Libya that you can fill an A330, lets say 2x weekly? Do we have big OFW community in Libya?

My dad is working in Libya and he told me there are a lot of Filipinos there. Yung mga documented Pinoy ata is around 35,000. Sabi ng daddy ko, marami daw "tnt" doon.

uh...i have a question...how many 733s does 2P have? :)

source: http://www.alternativeairlines.com/aa/news.cfm?ccs=214&cs=3512
source: http://www.afriqiyah99.eu/362.html?&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=456&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=363&cHash=ed59879212

So is this really true? Is there really so much demand to Libya that you can fill an A330, lets say 2x weekly? Do we have big OFW community in Libya?

lets hope they will fly here, good for tourism industry... more power!!!!!

^^
@abnkat

Please read my previous post on that one in this thread. Your question can be answered there, or better yet visit this link (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/02/afriqiyah-airways-to-fly-manila.html).

I would definitely agree with kalbongdad. Businessman as they are, they would not operate the route if it can't be filled. Its common business sense.

100% agree with you....

uh...i have a question...how many 733s does 2P have? :)

heres the list...

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Air%20Philippines.htm

heres the list...

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Air%20Philippines.htm

looks outdated...kasi wlang nkalagay na active sa 733...i saw one 2 weeks ago...and on the previous pages

Cebu Pacific has a B777-300 airplane model in one of the offices in the main building at domestic road... will take picture pag balik ko hehheehhe

I wonder if 5J have pnas to fly to Seoul?

Cebu Pacific flies daily to Seoul from both Manila and Cebu through Seoul's main airport - Incheon

Cebu Pacific also flies 4x weekly from Cebu to Busan...

5J previously have plans to get some B747s. They intend to fly to the US before.. However, Tim Jordan came in and helped Lance in expanding 5J with the brand new Airbus 319s and 320s and make 5J a real LCC which dropped plans to fly to US and instead opened more domestic routes...

I think Cebu Pacific will soon fly twice daily to General Santos.. with the new three weekly morning frequency in addition to the daily afternoon flight, 5J will be deploying extra segments to GenSan this march as 5J 991 and 992 (departing Manila at 830am) ......5J 993 and 994 (departing Manila at 0705H) are the three weekly morning flights and 5J 995 and 996 are the daily afternoon flights..

^^
Thats more like it. At that time 5J was still considered a legacy carrier before they were knock off on their senses on massive losses. If not for big Johns' gold finger dipping Summit money in CEB, it could have been dead along time ago. Thanks Chevy.

Arianspace. Do you think PAL would lose over Cebu Pacific? Or it would be a fair fight for the two Philippine's giants?

No. PAL is way bigger than CEB. Both in market value and capitalization. Its not even close to make comparison.

Good to know arianspace. Thanks for your input. I wouldn't think so either since Cebu Pacific is on LCC which definitely would benefit filipino OFWs in the middleast. That would also give alot of filipino leisure travelers a chance to go to Dubai at a lesser costs.

well he's a frustrated pilot anyway, hehe... j/k... :)


now...now...mr. boom :nono:....don't you get me started..


i could list a litany :speech: of all my frustrations here..but i would be out of topic.:ohno:

among other things..not only am i a frustrated pilot...but i am also a frustrated passenger of this airline..

owned by...
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:gaah:

^^ So, Boeing would revive those Fairchild-Republic A-10? Those are nasty planes in combat. I only saw them in training videos and when they were park in Barksdale Air Force Base, La. They must have revived all of those that got junked in AMARC.


afaik...them a-10s were never junked...during desert storm..they were feared by the hopeless iraqi soldiers in kuwait.

I saw once a fully loaded A-10 took off at Kirkland AFB, New Mexico when I was assigned there. This plane had a rocket assisted takeoff engine for a few second and used only a quarter of the runway. It was so loud that everybody at the tarmac stop working to watch the plane tookoff. I was working on a H53 helicopter late 70's. :)


that must have been quite a sight...and sound...btw...you fly a helicopter too? wow!

hello tonyboy,
don´t worry. you are fine with your decision to do what ever you like. we all are individuals and have the right to like or dislike anything. it´s not that i do not appreciate your contributions. i was just quoting that a tourist trip around the world is not a airline considered specific contribution (even if there is one or two aircraft photos in between) and was wondering why you scratch out your face ?

never mind, not so important. you have your reasons, i respect that.

i´m sorry you could not be a pilot due to your color-blindness. but you work within the airline industry and surely have a responsible and respectable job there. :)

for your convenience here is a link to my website : www.richardfischer.net (http://www.richardfischer.net). have a glance at what my job is if you wish. :lol:

best regards from M.

thanks for the kind words of consolation...btw...your link does not work..i thought you were into avionics....are you mr richard fischer?

I've seen that pic in airlines thread. Isn't that the official aircraft being used by the Sultan of Brunei? It's very luxurious indeed.

now...now...mr. boom :nono:....don't you get me started..


i could list a litany :speech: of all my frustrations here..but i would be out of topic.:ohno:

among other things..not only am i a frustrated pilot...but i am also a frustrated passenger of this airline..

owned by...
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:gaah:


wow this is like a hotel in the air....

Cebu Pacific flies daily to Seoul from both Manila and Cebu through Seoul's main airport - Incheon

Cebu Pacific also flies 4x weekly from Cebu to Busan...

Thanks. Nakita ko sa website it is included in their route map pero di listed kapag pabook ka online. I wonder why?

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/ericlucky290/Forum/clark/missing.jpg

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Philippine Airlies B777 ER Aircraft

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New Delhi , India

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Moscow, Russia

In a Business Mirror interview dated February 23, 2009, Philippine Tourism Secretary Joseph 'Ace' Durano said that he expects Philippine Airlines (PAL) to fly to New Delhi from Manila in the middle of this year. Durano cited India as a good and promising source of tourists and business visitors for the Philippines. India is second to China as the biggest growing economy in the Asia-Pacific region.

Durano also cited that Russian visitors to the Philippines have been significantly growing and emphasiezed that country's potential paving the way for a direct Philippine Airlines route between Manila and Moscow.

To read the whole Business Mirror article (February 23, 2009) http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6467:tourism-goal-moved-to-2012&catid=23:topnews&Itemid=58

^^Really? Oh gosh, that's great news. :banana:

Thanks. Nakita ko sa website it is included in their route map pero di listed kapag pabook ka online. I wonder why?

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/ericlucky290/Forum/clark/missing.jpg

It's a charter flight and you can't book it online, if I remember correctly. You have to call CEB's office directly to book a flight to Seoul or Busan.

In addition, it's the same for Korean Air, only it's not charter. You can certainly book flights though between the Philippines and South Korea on PAL though.

http://i44.tinypic.com/fa4k94.jpg
Philippine Airlies B777 ER Aircraft

http://i40.tinypic.com/zjccjc.jpg
New Delhi , India

http://i42.tinypic.com/2qsw8w3.jpg
Moscow, Russia

In a Business Mirror interview dated February 23, 2009, Philippine Tourism Secretary Joseph 'Ace' Durano said that he expects Philippine Airlines (PAL) to fly to New Delhi from Manila in the middle of this year. Durano cited India as a good and promising source of tourists and business visitors for the Philippines. India is second to China as the biggest growing economy in the Asia-Pacific region.

Durano also cited that Russian visitors to the Philippines have been significantly growing and emphasiezed that country's potential paving the way for a direct Philippine Airlines route between Manila and Moscow.

To read the whole Business Mirror article (February 23, 2009) http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6467:tourism-goal-moved-to-2012&catid=23:topnews&Itemid=58

Congratulations to PAL another milestones......

Actually New Delhi is just one of four new international cities that PAL plans to add this year . This is what we are hearing in the f/a line grapevine. PAL is raring to start service to San Diego once the FAA Stage 2 category is lifted. So obviouslly that is the second new international PAL destination.

As for the two others? My lips are sealed at the moment.

wah! don't do that! :lol:

I hope it's London because PAL has a right to fly there via Doha.

As for the second, it should be NYC or Chicago.

20 injured on Manila-Tokyo flight, turbulence suspected (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/20/09/20-injured-manila-tokyo-flight-turbulence-suspected)
Agence France-Presse | 02/20/2009 2:33 PM


TOKYO - Around 20 people were injured on a Northwest Airlines flight from the Philippines to Japan Friday, officials said, adding that turbulence was the likely cause.

Ambulances took the injured to hospitals after the Northwest Airlines Boeing 747-400 jet landed at Narita International Airport near Tokyo at 12:19 pm local time, an airport official said.

"Twenty people have been injured ... and they are being sent to hospital in ambulances," Narita International Airport spokesman Fumihiko Aoyama told AFP.

The flight had been set to continue on to Los Angeles after a stopover.

Northwest Airlines spokesman Masashi Takahashi said: "Air turbulence is believed to be the cause. The turbulence occurred 25 to 30 minutes before landing, when the seat belt light was on."

"During the flight, we received a message from the pilot saying two or three people were injured. But (the pilot) probably assessed that an emergency landing was not necessary," he told AFP.

"It is possible that the people injured did not have their seatbelts on, otherwise all of the 422 passengers would have been injured as well."

my cousins were on this plane. they had to stay one night in tokyo.
Sobrang ma turbulent yang route na yan. i experienced that too during landing and i thought we were dead meat.

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The aircraft is an A342 yet the article states the it was flown from Boeing factory to Waco. He must be referring to the B747. :dunno:

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New Delhi , India

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Moscow, Russia

with what aircraft will they be flying there ?
their first 777 is only due mid december. do they still have capacity with their A330s or A340s?
or are they leasing new aircraft for both new delhi and moscow?

^^
I was really confused about that... an Airbus going to a Boeing factory..

Reposting ...

PAL Holdings reports P13.84-billion loss (http://www.mb.com.ph/BSNS20090223148788.html)


PAL Holdings reported consolidated total comprehensive loss for the nine months ended December 31, 2008 of P13.84 billion, a significant decrease of 1,912 percent from the loss in the same period of the previous fiscal year of P687.8 million.

Consolidated net income from operations also showed a significant decline from P143.5 million as of December 31, 2007 to a loss of P14.31 billion in the current period.

Consolidated revenues for the nine months ended December 31, 2008 amounted to P57.21 billion, 17 percent higher than last year’s same period figure of P48.87 billion.

The increase was brought about mainly by the increase in passenger revenues due to higher net yield per Revenue Passenger Kilometer (RPK) and in the number of passengers carried. Revenues also include cargo, recoveries arising from surcharges, and other income earned during the period.

Consolidated expenses for the current period rose by P22.79 billion or 47 percent higher than the previous year’s period total of P48.72 billion.

This was largely due to higher expenses related to flying operations, maintenance, aircraft & traffic servicing, passenger service, reservation and sales, general and administrative and other expenses.

The increase in flying operations by 51 percent was attributable mainly to the increase in fuel costs. For the period ended December 2008, fuel expenses grew to P25.84 billion as a result of higher fuel consumption due to increase in flights coupled with the escalation in average price per barrel of aviation jet fuel.

Higher aircraft, engine and component repair costs had the effect of increasing maintenance expenses by P486.8 million or 7 percent from a total of P6.69 billion of the previous fiscal year.

As a result of more flights operated during the nine months of the current fiscal year, aircraft & traffic servicing expenses increased by P512.0 million or 9 percent over the same period figure of the last fiscal year.

Increase in selling expenses recognized related to transportation service provided as well as in the cost incurred under the frequent flyer program resulted in an increase in reservation and sales by P574.4 million or 24 percent.

Improvements in employee benefits implemented by PAL as well as provisions made on certain transactions, fees incurred relative to various legal matters, change in aircraft registration, and new aircraft delivery resulted in higher general and administrative expenses by 25 percent in 2008.

Recognition of one-time payable losses as a result of the termination of certain hedging contracts as well as fair value changes on the outstanding derivative instruments resulted in the increase in "Other Expenses" by P9.57 billion or 4.2 times as compared with the same period figure of the last fiscal year.

These expenses coupled with the unrealized changes in the fair value of outstanding cash flow hedges amounting to P1.7 billion classified as part of " Other Comprehensive Income" contributed as well to the total comprehensive loss for the period April to December 2008.

Another significant portion of the other comprehensive income is the effect of foreign exchange translation which resulted to a gain of P2.17 million or an increase of 193 percent from last year.

Actually New Delhi is just one of four new international cities that PAL plans to add this year . This is what we are hearing in the f/a line grapevine. PAL is raring to start service to San Diego once the FAA Stage 2 category is lifted. So obviouslly that is the second new international PAL destination.

As for the two others? My lips are sealed at the moment.

sabi sa kabila na ireretire na daw yung mga A340s as soon as the 77W starts coming, if that so, paano yung new routes or PAL would still be using their A340s for couple more years??

does pal have any pending aircraft orders from airbus?

my flight naba ang PAL going to Cambodia?

sabi sa kabila na ireretire na daw yung mga A340s as soon as the 77W starts coming, if that so, paano yung new routes or PAL would still be using their A340s for couple more years??

this is my opinion ha. the a340 is good for another couple of years. so why retire it? besides those planes are properly maintained. if they want to they can use it for domestic operations.:lol:

this is my opinion ha. the a340 is good for another couple of years. so why retire it? besides those planes are properly maintained. if they want to they can use it for domestic operations.:lol:

hindi pa ako nakakasakay sa A340 ng PAL. Sana hindi muna i-retire. sa tingin ko din, since may addtional 4 new destinations daw, two out four na ang DEL and SAN if na lift ang CAT II natin, baka naman kapag nakarating na yung 6/8 na 77W tsaka magstastart ang retirement

^^ hindi nila talaga i retire yan...
yan kasi ang bread and butter ng PAL sa kanilang US at Canada flights sa LAX, SFO, YVR at LAS... kaya nga weekly ang flights doon in addition sa 747-400 ng PAL...

mukhang kailangan na talaga ng PAL yung 777-300 para ma extend na yung flights nila to San Diego..


OT:

possible kayang sumali ang PAL sa mga airline alliances like Star Alliance, SkyTeam, at OneWorld... so that pwedeng mag share code agreement ang PAL to European carriers...

Thanks. Nakita ko sa website it is included in their route map pero di listed kapag pabook ka online. I wonder why?

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Cebu Pacific flight Schedule to Seoul

5J194
Daily
ETD MNL: 1550H
ETA ICN: 2045H

Cebu Pacific flight Schedule to Seoul

5J194
Daily
ETD MNL: 1550H
ETA ICN: 2045H

LCC type ba ang service?

I wonder kamusta ang MNL-Jeju route.

^^^^

I just don't know pero i think they serve full meal sa route na yon... on MNL-CJU ?? do we have direct flight ba dun??? ang alam ko via Busan or Incheon din sila for both Korean Air and Asiana.

^^^ diba may charter before ang PAL? Dec. 07 ata yun.

^^^^

hindi ko lang sure eh.....:ohno:

anyway Cebu Pacific will be having additional flight to Singapore Starting March 29, 2009 from their current twice daily flight to Singapore

5J805 (MNL-SIN)
Mo-We-Fr-Sa
ETD MNL: 1330H
ETA SIN: 1655H

5J806 (SIN-MNL
Mo-We-Fr-Sa
ETD SIN: 1740H
ETA MNL: 2105H

my flight naba ang PAL going to Cambodia?

Nope. Nada. Nil.

possible kayang sumali ang PAL sa mga airline alliances like Star Alliance, SkyTeam, at OneWorld... so that pwedeng mag share code agreement ang PAL to European carriers...

There is always a possibility, but I think PR is waiting to be invited to join instead of actively applying to join an alliance. PR already has a codeshare agreement with KL to Europe via AMS. And if I were to guess which alliance PR would most likely join, it would be OneWorld since it already has strong interline agreements with AA, CX, and JL. And it would be nice to be in the compay of QF and BA as well. :colgate:

I've seen that pic in airlines thread. Isn't that the official aircraft being used by the Sultan of Brunei? It's very luxurious indeed.

yes..that is where i usually hang out! :)

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes-85/

Good evening guys!

I think this is the proper forum to ask if Cebu Pacific or PAL Express intends to serve the Manila-Masbate route. I am from Masbate and from time to time visit my parents there. Currently, no airline serves Masbate province and its really inconvenient to go there by bus or Cebu Pac/PAL via Legaspi. I hope you have the answer to the querry.

Thanks.:)

There is always a possibility, but I think PR is waiting to be invited to join instead of actively applying to join an alliance. PR already has a codeshare agreement with KL to Europe via AMS. And if I were to guess which alliance PR would most likely join, it would be OneWorld since it already has strong interline agreements with AA, CX, and JL. And it would be nice to be in the compay of QF and BA as well. :colgate:

that would be nice if pal mabuhay miles will also join star alliance...



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my biggest gripe is that pal mabuhay miles, ana mileage club, singapore frequent flyer programme and united airlines frequent flier miles ..if unused..will eventually expire :bash: at a certain time period..three years ata..in marked contrast to my amex frequent flyer miles whcih can be redeemed anytime...with reciprocity to other star alliance members.





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....napipilitan tuloy kaming mag-travel even if we cannot afford it..:ohno:

^^mas gusto ko din ang oneworld kesa sa skyteam or star alliance dahil sa CX, which is pinakamalapit ang HK sa Manila

tanong po... wala na po bang sng - dvo flight and bupak after mar 30?! nakakiyak... ang mahal kasi ng silk air....

^^
sabi sa kabila na ireretire na daw yung mga A340s as soon as the 77W starts coming, if that so, paano yung new routes or PAL would still be using their A340s for couple more years??

The one who came out with that idea doesn't know what he is talking about.
The triple seven will replace nothing. Much has already been said about the 340 economics but as far as PAL is concerned they are making money out of it. I already told you the story so there is no point of repetitions. The purpose of the new aircraft is to add capacity and introduce new route not to replace a fleet. I hope its well understood.

does pal have any pending aircraft orders from airbus?

Yes. 5 airbus 320, 2 for delivery 2011 and 3 for 2012


There is always a possibility, but I think PR is waiting to be invited to join instead of actively applying to join an alliance. PR already has a codeshare agreement with KL to Europe via AMS. And if I were to guess which alliance PR would most likely join, it would be OneWorld since it already has strong interline agreements with AA, CX, and JL. And it would be nice to be in the compay of QF and BA as well. :colgate:

And the way things are going they are quite happy alone. By the way the code share with KL was terminated 2 years ago. Right now they are following the Emirates way of growing. And if they change their mind, one world will be the last thing on their mind. WHY? Too small to even have a voice. And there is more to it that PAL very much enjoys, a peculiarity of the niche in the Philippine aviation market that you can't find anywhere else in the world, the thing that insulates them from sudden shock of economic downturn at least, and they almost all sit in Y class. Singapore Airlines and Qantas knew it very well and they are cashing in on it. By sticking their frequency to SIN and Oz to the nose while axing others in Asia Pacific. For Qantas sake, they are even upgrading the fleet to A330 from B767's despite the crisis. PAL even went daily to Oz when airline managers around the world are banging their heads on the wall on trickling seat numbers.

What can I say more? Oh, yes. If ever they decides on joining, Star Alliance would be the closest one whether you like it or not. I will explain later. It has something to do with Europe.

now...now...mr. boom :nono:....don't you get me started..


i could list a litany :speech: of all my frustrations here..but i would be out of topic.:ohno:

among other things..not only am i a frustrated pilot...but i am also a frustrated passenger of this airline..

owned by...
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:gaah:

hmmmmm, how come it's from Boeing while the aircraft is an A342? Looks like an Airbus from the outside, and a Boeing from the inside...

Good evening guys!

I think this is the proper forum to ask if Cebu Pacific or PAL Express intends to serve the Manila-Masbate route. I am from Masbate and from time to time visit my parents there. Currently, no airline serves Masbate province and its really inconvenient to go there by bus or Cebu Pac/PAL via Legaspi. I hope you have the answer to the querry.

Thanks.:)

How about Zest(now defunct Asian Spirit)? I thought they're serving that route...

thanks for that arianespace. Nagulat din ako nung sinabi na papalitan yung A340 since hindi naman lumalabas sa news yun, if I recall it right.

hmmmmm, how come it's from Boeing while the aircraft is an A342? Looks like an Airbus from the outside, http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/sultan/zzzzzzzxy0002sultan.jpg
and a Boeing from the inside..
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thanks for the correction...you're right...of course..:)

i stand corrected since i saw your post..

5L_sjfyO22I



They've stretched the upper deck all the way to the rear, making use of the available ceiling space. Being cabins at the rear half of the fuselage, they're windowless, and makes them more suitable for the claustrophobic...

^^

i very much enjoyed watching it...:banana:

The 747-8 Intercontinental is the only jetliner in the 400- to 500-seat market, stretched 5.6 m (18.3 ft) from the 747-400 to provide 467 seats in a three-class configuration and a 14,815-km (8,000-nmi) range. Using 787-technology engines, the airplane will be quieter, produce lower emissions, and achieve better fuel economy than any competing jetliner.

The 747 Intercontinental will provide nearly equivalent trip costs and 13 percent lower seat-mile costs than the 747-400, plus 26 percent greater cargo volume. Operating economics will offer a significant improvement over the A380. The 747-8 is more than 10 percent lighter per seat than the A380 and will consume 11 percent less fuel per passenger than the 555-seat airplane. That translates into a trip-cost reduction of 21 percent and a seat-mile cost reduction of more than 6 percent, compared to the A380. Both the 747-8 Intercontinental and 747-8 Freighter can use the existing infrastructure and ground equipment at most airports worldwide.

Seating:
467 passengers in a three-class configuration

Range:
8,000 nmi (14,815 km) - Intercontinental
4,390 nmi (8,130 km) - Freighter

Configuration:
Twin aisle

Wing span:
224 ft 7 in (68.5 m)

Length:
250 ft 2 in (76.3 m)

Height:
63 ft 6 in (19.4 m)

Thrust:
66,500 pounds (GEnx-2B67)

Cruise speed:
Mach 0.85 - Intercontinental
Mach 0.845 - Freighter

Maximum Takeoff Weight:
975,000 pounds (442,250 kg)

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/commercial/747-8_K63636-01_lg.jpg


:master: heightdeprived :cheers:



source: boeing 747-8 (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/747-8_facts.html)

http://www.boeingmedia.com/imageView.cfm?id=15338&ResID=5

Boeing Awarded $1.1B for Performance-Based-Logistics Sustainment of C-17 Globemaster III:banana:

source: boeing media (http://www.boeingmedia.com/imageRelease.cfm)

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thanks for the kind words of consolation...btw...your link does not work..i thought you were into avionics....are you mr richard fischer?

my pleasure. thats the least i can do.

yes i am RF. and i just tried my link and it does work with me. but i am using macintoch computors.

try : www.richardfischer.org, there you have a decision of flash or html. you should choose the one that works for you best.

let me know if you can access the link. rds from majaba.

How about Zest(now defunct Asian Spirit)? I thought they're serving that route...

ZestAir stopped servicing the route since around second week of January 09 and no news yet regarding the resumption of the flights, if they would still want to take that route.

^^hey long time no hear richard :)

^^
I just love Boeing figures. Only Lufthansa was able to order the bird.

The last time I checked, Boeing engineers made almost correct calculations on the 777NG, and they went spiral downwards after that.

Perhaps they were thinking that they have the best mathematicians around to play on figures. At least, the airlines order proved them wrong.

Of course those airlines have engineers too to do the math for them. Which engineers are more accurate now?

I'm not even talking on the 787.

To cut it short. They became the victim of their own arrogance. Boeing may have to shake its corporate culture and listen to airlines more.

From the country that vouch open market and free competition, Boeing cried foul on the USAF plan for the new Air Force One because what they have now is nothing more than a card board. Where is the spirit of competition now. Even the A330 MRTT program is being fired at when it beats the B767 from all areas fair and square. Why? Did they also think that Europe could also do the same thing by buying Airbus instead. I'm not surprise at all at Boeing's attitude. Airbus correctly withdrew the A380 platform than waste money to a contract which they have no way of winning.

^^
ZestAir stopped servicing the route since around second week of January 09 and no news yet regarding the resumption of the flights, if they would still want to take that route.

Because two of their brand new MA-60's are out of service. One completely gone, and the other waiting for repairs. One of it served Masbate and other destinations.

Don't worry it will be back soon.

arianespace, can you explain about that PAL would suit Star alliance best because of Europe?? Thanks in advance. :D

tanong po... wala na po bang sng - dvo flight and bupak after mar 30?! nakakiyak... ang mahal kasi ng silk air....

anyone please?:ohno:

Good evening guys!

I think this is the proper forum to ask if Cebu Pacific or PAL Express intends to serve the Manila-Masbate route. I am from Masbate and from time to time visit my parents there. Currently, no airline serves Masbate province and its really inconvenient to go there by bus or Cebu Pac/PAL via Legaspi. I hope you have the answer to the querry.

Thanks.:)

so Zest Air's operation is temporarily stopped? how'd be the travel like if you are coming from Legazpi? our company put up a satellite operation in masbate. i might want to check it out soon. who knows? :)


hmmmmm, how come it's from Boeing while the aircraft is an A342? Looks like an Airbus from the outside, and a Boeing from the inside...


i'm curious if there's only an A340 for the sultanate plane. when he visited manila, i have seen the aircraft used, and it's definitely not an airbus. looked like a B777 to me.

i'm curious if there's only an A340 for the sultanate plane. when he visited manila, i have seen the aircraft used, and it's definitely not an airbus. looked like a B777 to me.[/QUOTE]


nope, it was a B747-400, i dont think if it was a brunei's air force w/ a color gray and a symbol of brunei like a 2 hands...

hi mgian, what else does the sultanate have? i'm certain what i have seen is not a jumbo jet.

http://http://www.image-upload.net/index.php?module=thumbnail&file=gi1wkm67uc6m578ggp6x.jpg

I dont know eh, basta nung nasa LTP aq, B747-400 ang gamit nya...

nung bumisita sya d2 sa pinas, kelan lang....

and what's with the posting of broken sentences in separate posts?

my pleasure. thats the least i can do.

yes i am RF. and i just tried my link and it does work with me. but i am using macintoch computors.

try : www.richardfischer.org, there you have a decision of flash or html. you should choose the one that works for you best.

let me know if you can access the link. rds from majaba.


Oh man, you're him!! I remember you RF. You're somehow missed in SSC Philippines. WB.

:master: [SIZE="3


source: [B]boeing 747-8 (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/747-8_facts.html)

I"m really excited about this new B747-800 and the upcoming dreamliner B737. A380 is just okay with me but I guess that's because of my biases infavor of boeing aircrafts.

[QUOTE=mwg12a;32730078]Oh man, you're him!! I remember you RF. You're somehow missed in SSC Philippines. WB.

salamat mwg12a.....i once made a big mistake :ohno: i was very unpolite and had to take the consequences. i was banned from the forums. that was some time ago. now it´s up to the judges to decide.....

thank you for your welcome back mwg12a :):):)

^^


Because two of their brand new MA-60's are out of service. One completely gone, and the other waiting for repairs. One of it served Masbate and other destinations.

Don't worry it will be back soon.

i don´t like the ma-60, it´s nothing but a remodelled real old russian antonow. nothing really for island hopping. its proven on continental ground but not adaquate to a country consisiting of thousands of islands.

zest should reconsider their fleeting plans before they grow and get any more. not that i don´t like zest. in my opinion the airline truely has great value positioning itself in a good niche, but not with this aircraft.

night @ LTP
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AO6
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A380 @ Manila
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wow!!! :banana: thanks for sharing....:applause::okay:

hi arianespace, ask ko lang how come out of service agad yung brand new MA-60 ng Zest, anu yun sobrang overworked na sila na kailangan ng exhaustive maintenance check? TY

Cebu Pacific adds foreign, local flights (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20090222-190397/Cebu-Pacific-adds-foreign-local-flights)
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:53:00 02/22/2009

MANILA, Philippines—Cebu Pacific (CEB) will mount additional frequencies to its international and domestic leisure destinations in anticipation of strong demand during the summer season.

CEB will add to its Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam), Hong Kong, and Singapore international services, and to its Boracay (Caticlan), Busuanga (Coron, Palawan) and Davao-Zamboanga domestic services.

Starting March 29, CEB will add four weekly mid-day flights to its current twice daily Manila-Singapore service. The airline will also expand its Cebu-Hong Kong flights from four-times weekly to daily and boost its Ho Chi Minh service with an additional Saturday flight.

In the domestic sector, CEB will increase its Manila-Boracay (Caticlan) service to 77 times weekly from 56 times weekly. The airline also raises its Cebu-Caticlan frequency to twice daily from once daily.

It will expand its Manila-Busuanga service to twice daily, while its Davao-Zamboanga service will increase from four-times weekly to a daily service.

The airline will use its eighth ATR 72-500 aircraft to mount the additional domestic flights in time for the summer peak. This brings CEBís weekly domestic flights to 1,206 from 1,152.

“We hope to continue stimulating air travel in these sought-after destinations by offering our trademark low fares and new aircraft,” the company said.

^^ sana naman.. sinali dapat nila ang Cebu-Iligan or Manila-Iligan sa kanilang route... nag back-out kasi ang PAL Ex last year...

ARE THEY NOW PLANNING A FUEL SURCHARGE ON FALLING OIL PRICES?

The astronomical run-up of oil prices to a high of $147 a barrel in July 2008, left many airlines scrambling to hedge their future fuel requirements. This especially after leading financial analysts forecast that oil could hit the $200 a barrel level.

But who would have thought that oil prices would tumble as rapidly as they rose? Crude futures are down more than 70 percent to date, hovering around $40 a barrel. Over the past 12 months, jet fuel prices are down over 40 percent. Carriers such as Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines, both of whom hedged forward, are bleeding red.

"A lot of airlines stayed unhedged as much as they possibly could ... when prices got to about $130 - $140 … they started to hedge at above $100," Peter Harbison, executive chairman at Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation told CNBC’s Asia Squawk Box. "A lot of carriers are stuck now with fixed purchase prices at that level."

As of 31 December 2008, Cathay Pacific's unrealized losses from soured bets on fuel hedges have hit $980 million. Fuel hedging losses at China Eastern Airlines stand at $906 million and it's forced the carrier to seek a third round of capital injection from the Chinese government.

Across the Pacific, things are no better. United Airlines [UAUA 6.48 1.06 (+19.56%) ] hedged about 28 percent of its fuel needs for 2009 at $101 - $114 a barrel. If prices continue to trade in the $40 a barrel range, the airline could pay as much as 285 percent more than the spot price.


Airline Fuel Hedges
AIRLINE Hedge Positions (2009) Premium/$40 bbl
Singapore Airlines $117 - $121 300%
United Airlines $101 - $114 285%
Qantas $98 245%
British Airways $95 238%
Southwest Airlines $73 183%
Sources: Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, Reuters, UOB Kay Hain, Australian Associated Press


In comparison, Southwest Airlines [LUV 6.45 -0.07 (-1.09%) ] -- it's hedged approximately 75 percent of its 2009 fuel needs at an average of $73 a barrel -- will only pay 183 percent premium to current prices.

.

Currency Flux

The depreciation of the Aussie dollar and South Korean won has added to the pain of buying U.S. dollar-denominated fuel. Qantas reported a 66 percent drop in first-half profits, with its fuel bill up nearly 29 percent on year to $1.42 billion. That's almost tracked the decline of the Aussie dollar [AUD-TN 0.6466 0.0053 (+0.83%) ], which has fallen more than 30 percent from its July '08 high against the dollar.

This means at the peak of the Aussie's strength (0.985 to the dollar), Qantas paid just A$99.50 a barrel for its hedged position (US$98/bbl). At the current exchange rate (0.675 to the dollar), Qantas is paying roughly A$145 a barrel for its $98 hedge. That's an almost 47 percent increase.

my pleasure. thats the least i can do.

yes i am RF. and i just tried my link and it does work with me. but i am using macintoch computors.

try : www.richardfischer.org, there you have a decision of flash or html. you should choose the one that works for you best.

let me know if you can access the link. rds from majaba.

ja..i got it...dancke schon..herr richard...:cheers:

Cebu Pacific adds foreign, local flights (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20090222-190397/Cebu-Pacific-adds-foreign-local-flights)
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:53:00 02/22/2009

MANILA, Philippines—Cebu Pacific (CEB) will mount additional frequencies to its international and domestic leisure destinations in anticipation of strong demand during the summer season.

CEB will add to its Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam), Hong Kong, and Singapore international services, and to its Boracay (Caticlan), Busuanga (Coron, Palawan) and Davao-Zamboanga domestic services.

Starting March 29, CEB will add four weekly mid-day flights to its current twice daily Manila-Singapore service. The airline will also expand its Cebu-Hong Kong flights from four-times weekly to daily and boost its Ho Chi Minh service with an additional Saturday flight.

In the domestic sector, CEB will increase its Manila-Boracay (Caticlan) service to 77 times weekly from 56 times weekly. The airline also raises its Cebu-Caticlan frequency to twice daily from once daily.

It will expand its Manila-Busuanga service to twice daily, while its Davao-Zamboanga service will increase from four-times weekly to a daily service.

The airline will use its eighth ATR 72-500 aircraft to mount the additional domestic flights in time for the summer peak. This brings CEBís weekly domestic flights to 1,206 from 1,152.

“We hope to continue stimulating air travel in these sought-after destinations by offering our trademark low fares and new aircraft,” the company said.


so dito napunta yung dvo-sng na flight? tsk.. cancelled na ba talaga yung route na to?

ja..i got it...dancke schon..herr richard...:cheers:

salamat po tony, where did you learn your german ? :)

if you should come again, let me know in advance. we could meet up i live 1 hour away from frankfurt airport.

salamat po tony,

... we could meet up i live 1 hour away from frankfurt airport.
bitte schon..


vielen dank...

ah..unser liebling flughaten zufall ...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Frankfurt_intl_airport_%28nasa%29.jpg

A German court has given the green light for the construction of a fourth runway and a third terminal at Frankfurt Airport. The runway was given approval in 2007 but the start of construction had been delayed by law suits from environmental groups and residents of local towns affected by the proposed runway. Hesse Administrative High Court has dismissed the actions but has proposed restrictions on night flights.

Frankfurt Airport plays a key role in international air transportation. One of the most important air transportation hubs in Europe, FRA is at the center of the major part of intra-European air service networks and offers connecting services to long-haul destinations in the Americas, Asia, Africa and Australia. FRA is also the home base of Deutsche Lufthansa, one of the world's most successful airlines.

Fraport's CEO Bender pointed out that FRA is not only one of the biggest construction sites but also one of the most significant investment locations in Europe. Fraport alone is investing more than €4 billion in the expansion of Frankfurt Airport.

Rendering
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General project
http://www.ausbau.fraport.de/cms/media/1/1445.flughafenleitplan_2015.jpg
Source: Fraport AG


With this runway option, the airport will achieve the envisaged capacity goal of 120 movements per hour. Some 217 hectares of land will be needed for the Northwest runway, including the connecting taxiways to the apron. Woodland consumption will amount to 162 hectares of protective forest.

New Terminal 3

In addition to the new runway, further passenger and baggage facilities as well as new aircraft maintenance facilities will be required in the future. Plans call for construction of a new passenger terminal in the south of the airport to raise the airport's current 56 million passenger capacity per year by at least 25 million. The project will include construction of 75 aircraft stands and docking positions and associated taxiways. Already examined in the regional planning procedure, the Terminal 3 project will also be part of the zoning application.

Macro location
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Micro location
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/834191/1280_6339643535393163.jpg
Source: Fraport AG


Frankfurt Airport City

Frankfurt Airport is much more than an airport: it is an entire city, which is covering an area of 20 million square meters. It offers total mobility, because it is networked with air, rail and road links.

First part of the Airport City - the 660 meters long Airrail Center - is under construction already

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Source: Hochhausforum

It's located between the A3 motorway and the B 43 highway. It is being built on the platform over the long-distance ICE train station at Frankfurt Airport. Building statistics: (Length: 660 m, Width: 65 m, Levels: 9, Occupancy:Some 53 percent of the entire project was already rented before construction started (KPMG, Hilton, Metropolitan Medical Center), completion scheduled for 2009-2010.

http://www.airrail.de/html/img/pic_mobi_02.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/3/7/1429737.jpg????


And this is how it's gonna look like after completion in 2009/2010:

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http://www.yuanda.com.cn/UpLoadFiles/projects/business/2007110513591150351.jpg

http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads_img/jsk_architects_2.jpg


Second Part: Gateway Gardens

The area Gateway Gardens covers around 350.000 m² of gross developable land to the north-east of Frankfurt Airport and is situated directly at Frankfurter Kreuz. The area borders on the B43 in the north, on the A5 in the east, on the Ellis Road and on the A 3 in the south and on the Kapitän-Lehmann-Straße in the west.

http://www.gateway-gardens.de/uploads/pics/gg_web_lageplan_infra_neu_en.png


Departure of the US armed forces in the end of 2005 and subsequent return of the area to the City of Frankfurt on the Main create an opportunity to develop the area in a new way appropriate in view of its location and quality. In the course of the current local development plan procedure preconditions for the planning right are momentarily being created. Construction work has already begun and the whole project should be completed in 2016.

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/schmittchen/gatewaygardensluftbildmitrender.jpg
Source: Deutsches Architektur Forum

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/f62a0f843fbff3a17cb2a44bee51cb99.JPG
Source: Hochhausforum

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2053/2237254526_5c9072565d_o.jpg


Extension of Pier A

Until the year 2012, a new and modern pier will be built as a part of the FRA-North project. Located just after security and passport controls, a new marketplace will emerge in the root of the new pier.

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/schmittchen/flugsteiga0skizze.jpg
Source: Deutsches Architektur Forum

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/schmittchen/fra_flugsA0.jpg
Source: Deutsches Architektur Forum


Other projects

Expansion of Hall C

With the expansion and modernization of departure hall C, the third landside market place is being generated in terminal 1. The design reflects the extraordinary exterior created by Christoph Meckler on the inside. As a gate to the new to be built C-D pier with it's gate positions for the new A 380. the new hall C will reach central importance for passenger processes and thereby also for retailing.

Redesign of Level Zero

For most passengers and airport employees, level 0 is the gate to frankfurt airport. From the parking facilities and from the train station, it gives you access to the departure halls of the terminal 1. Although located underneath the airport, the lighting system will create a daylight atmosphere. Light gates will give the marketplace structure and will set optical accents. Open: year 2011

Modernization of Arrivals Hall B

The arrival areas A, B and C of terminal 1 will be modernised and adapted to the needs of their audience. Passengers, as well as meeters & greeters are the target group of this area.
Opening arrival A: 4th quarter 2009
Opening arrival B: already open
Opening arrival C: already open

und unser liebling abflughalle..

http://www.travelandleisure.com/images/slideshows/lufthansa-lounge-200803-ss.jpg





wo wohnen sie? hast du ein auto? als wir in frankfurt war..wir waren jedes jahr an einem anderen urlaubsort..

zum beispiel: frankurter hotel..

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108frankfurt16b999.jpg

mein frau und ich habe ein sehr angenehmes vochenende auf dem land verbracht.:banana:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108frankfurt16b-1.jpg


if you should come again, let me know in advance


nicht mehr...richard...tut mir leid..aber ich kann kein deutsch geld..:ohno:










where did you learn your german ? :)

wann ich reisen zu deutshland..zum beispiel.... ich kaufen an buch ab berlitz..:lol:

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:cheers:

MIAA earmarks P3b to build Panglao airport (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_feb24_2009)
Manila standard (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_feb24_2009)

THE Manila International Airport Authority yesterday said it will invest P3 billion to build the Panglao International Airport in Bohol province.

Tirso Serrano, assistant general manager for airport development and corporate affairs, said the consultancy firm TGCI Engineers had completed the feasibility study while Phil JAC Inc. had been commissioned to do the new airports detailed design.

The agency, which has administrative control and supervision over all international airports, said it would also help upgrade and build Caticlan Airport, the gateway to the resort island of Boracay.

Alfonso Cusi, general manager of the airport agency, said the Ninoy Aquino International Airport had increased its capacity to 32 million passengers a year with the opening of Terminal-3.

The agency also disclosed plans to expand the terminal to better handle the increasing passenger traffic.

Last year, the Naia complex handled about 90 percent of all international traffic in the country and accounted for more than 22 million international and domestic passengers. That represented 75 percent of all passenger movements nationwide.

Aside from opening Terminal-3, the agency also expanded the Terminal-1 arrival lobby and made other renovations to make it more functional.

“The Naia complex would undergo further improvements in the years to come as this is essential to keep up with the demands of our stakeholders, airline operators and passengers,” Cusi said.

He said the use of wide-bodied jumbo jets had made the upgrading of the Naia’’s landing strip necessary, particularly the shoulders, to accommodate the wing span of new aircraft.

The runway could now accommodate new aircraft such as the Airbus A380, Cusi said. Two gates per terminal could fit the wide-bodied jumbo jets, he said. Roderick T. dela Cruz

Plane stops mid-runway at NAIA; passengers, crew safe (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/150272/Plane-stops-mid-runway-at-NAIA-passengers-crew-safe)
02/25/2009 | 10:17 AM

MANILA, Philippines - A Cebu Pacific flight with 200 passengers was delayed after the aircraft figured in a runway trouble at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Wednesday morning.

Radio dzBB said the Cebu Pacific plane was about to take off from the NAIA-Terminal 3 when it suddenly stopped at the middle of the runway at about 7 a.m.

Airport officials then rushed to the site to find out the wheels of the Air Bus 320 plane had sunk in a patch of asphalt that had to completely dry.

NAIA deputy manager Octavio Lina told radio dzBB in an interview that all passengers and crew were safe, and that the aircraft did not sustain any damage from the runway mishap.

The plane was bound for General Santos City and was expected to arrive there at 9 a.m.

As of posting time, the aircraft was still at the NAIA. - Mark Merueñas, GMANews.TV

Plane stops mid-runway at NAIA; passengers, crew safe (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/150272/Plane-stops-mid-runway-at-NAIA-passengers-crew-safe)
02/25/2009 | 10:17 AM

MANILA, Philippines - A Cebu Pacific flight with 200 passengers was delayed after the aircraft figured in a runway trouble at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Wednesday morning.

Radio dzBB said the Cebu Pacific plane was about to take off from the NAIA-Terminal 3 when it suddenly stopped at the middle of the runway at about 7 a.m.

Airport officials then rushed to the site to find out the wheels of the Air Bus 320 plane had sunk in a patch of asphalt that had to completely dry.

NAIA deputy manager Octavio Lina told radio dzBB in an interview that all passengers and crew were safe, and that the aircraft did not sustain any damage from the runway mishap.

The plane was bound for General Santos City and was expected to arrive there at 9 a.m.

As of posting time, the aircraft was still at the NAIA. - Mark Merueñas, GMANews.TV


wahahahaha... 200 daw oh.....5J has a 200 seater? hay nako. irresponsible journalism at its best.

^^ ano ba yan... maling mali na balita...
Air Bus 320
200 passengers...

pano kaya nila binilang yan...

^^ They stowed the extra pax in the overhead bins, the lavatories, and in the cargo hold. :lol:

^^ They stowed the extra pax in the overhead bins, the lavatories, and in the cargo hold. :lol:

correct my friend.... aba overloaded yan ha......non compliance with safety...

Who flew over yesterday over Quiapo?

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/341/1200x1200/12/Quiapo012.jpg?et=PunSaTZeKi%2B%2BIfH0J%2BEl0A&nmid=212202267

^^ That looks like a Japan Airlines plane.

Luzon beltway projects 22% complete (http://http://www.inquirer.net/propertyguide/buildingblocks/view.php?db=1&article=20090224-190818)
February 24, 2009 20:02:00
Joel Guinto
INQUIRER.net

CLARK FIELD, Pampanga—Thirteen government projects have been completed in the Luzon Urban Beltway worth P39.3 billion, or 22 percent of the total P180 billion allotted to develop the "super region" in the north, a Malacañang official said.

Secretary Eduardo Pamintuan, who heads the development in the region, on Tuesday said that of the 38 projects in the beltway, the 13 completed projects are:

• Subic-Clark Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX)
• Panday Pira Aacess Road
• Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA)
• DMIA passenger terminal expansion
• Subic port development
• Southern Tagalog Arterial Road
• Phase two of the Batangas Port Development Project
• Three projects for the roll-on, roll-off ferry link between Lucena town, Quezon province, and Boac town, Marinduque province
• Rehabilitation of EDSA (Epifanio delos Santos Avenue)
• Upgrading of hospitals
• Opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3.

"Let us develop the Luzon Urban Beltway a seamless priority infrastructure project," President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo said in a speech during a Cabinet meeting here.

^^ ano ba yan... maling mali na balita...
Air Bus 320
200 passengers...

pano kaya nila binilang yan...

your guess is as good as mine.....:lol:

hello tony,

thank you for the presentation of FRAPORT (frankfurt airport). i have seen these in the german forums. your questions are of private matter, so i will write you a private note later.

back to fraport : it is very hard to get any construction, expansion at frankfurt airport as there is lots of resistance to co2 emissions and pollution in germany. the country is extremly attached to biodiversity and politically it is run with a "green" touch.

it took many years to get things on the way for the expansion. but finally economics won over biodiversity. fraport is one of the countrys largest employer, so right now in times of economic down-turn it is a good job machine.

from an article ruralvillage posted :

He said the use of wide-bodied jumbo jets had made the upgrading of the Naia’’s landing strip necessary, particularly the shoulders, to accommodate the wing span of new aircraft.

so this clears the runway expansion for A380. i believe it is manilas main runway. thank you.

Plane stops mid-runway at NAIA; passengers, crew safe (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/150272/Plane-stops-mid-runway-at-NAIA-passengers-crew-safe)
02/25/2009 | 10:17 AM

MANILA, Philippines - A Cebu Pacific flight with 200 passengers was delayed after the aircraft figured in a runway trouble at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Wednesday morning.

Radio dzBB said the Cebu Pacific plane was about to take off from the NAIA-Terminal 3 when it suddenly stopped at the middle of the runway at about 7 a.m.

Airport officials then rushed to the site to find out the wheels of the Air Bus 320 plane had sunk in a patch of asphalt that had to completely dry.

NAIA deputy manager Octavio Lina told radio dzBB in an interview that all passengers and crew were safe, and that the aircraft did not sustain any damage from the runway mishap.

The plane was bound for General Santos City and was expected to arrive there at 9 a.m.

As of posting time, the aircraft was still at the NAIA. - Mark Merueñas, GMANews.TV

no wonder the plane got stuck in the asphalt. a A320 with 200 passangers :nuts:

so they are redoing the runway, but witch one ?

Who flew over yesterday over Quiapo?

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/341/1200x1200/12/Quiapo012.jpg?et=PunSaTZeKi%2B%2BIfH0J%2BEl0A&nmid=212202267

puwedeng gamiting ads ng JAL:)

no wonder the plane got stuck in the asphalt. a A320 with 200 passangers :nuts:

so they are redoing the runway, but witch one ?

maybe its 13/31 or the domestic runway.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/02/25/turkish.plane.amsterdam/index.html

Turkish plane crashes at Amsterdam airport

A passenger jet carrying more than 130 people crashed into a field as it was coming into land in Amsterdam Wednesday. The Turkish Airlines Boeing 737-800 broke into three pieces on impact, but fatalities were initially thought to be minimal.
Images from the scene of the Amsterdam crash show the plane broken into three pieces.

Images from the scene of the Amsterdam crash show the plane broken into three pieces.

There were conflicting reports about whether anyone was killed on the plane, which had 127 passengers and seven crew members.

The airline spokesman and Turkish Transportation Minister Binali Yildirim said no one had died, but an airline official told CNN sister station CNN-Turk that at least one person was confirmed dead.

Twenty people were injured, the airline spokesman said.

A passenger on the plane who spoke to Turkish network DHA said he saw injured people trapped and squeezed between the seats when he walked off the plane.

Journalist Ivan Watson in Istanbul said Turkish media quoted one crash survivor as saying that the back of the plane hit the ground first. "He said it was not an extremely horrible situation, it was like being in turbulence. He said it was more like a sudden impact, then we stopped." Video Watch reports on Turkish plane crash »

The Boeing 737-800, which originated from Istanbul, Turkey, was trying to land at Schiphol International Airport when it went down at about 10:40 a.m. local time, Dutch airport officials said.

Pictures from the scene showed the plane broken in three pieces. One tear was in front of the wing, splitting the "Turkish" logo in two, and a larger tear was farther back along he fuselage.
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Most of the injured were seated toward the back of the plane, which sustained the most damage, a passenger on the plane told Turkish station NTV. Many of the passengers simply walked off the plane through the cracks in the fuselage, witnesses told NTV.

Images from the scene showed medics treating passengers on the ground next to the buckled hulk of the plane, while firefighters and police examined the aircraft.

Emergency exits were wide open and there was no signs of fire damage to the fuselage. Also visible was one of the aircraft's engines, apparently separated from the shattered remains of one of the wings.

The plane landed in a flat farmer's field near the airport, RTL journalist Greg Crouch told CNN. He said the weather at the time was partly sunny with no wind or rain.

A bank manager who was a passenger on the plane told NTV that there were no emergency announcements. The crew's last word to the cabin was an announcement to fasten seatbelts and prepare for landing, the bank manager said.

He said he felt the pilot giving more power to the engines before a sudden drop and then the crash. He described the crash as similar to a sudden impact that was over in a matter of seconds.

Kieran Daly, of Air Transport Intelligence said the impact had been severe but it could have been survivable because of the lack of fire. He added that there had been vast improvements in the materials used to build airplanes, meaning they did not burn as easily.

Daly also said that the Boeing 737-800 is a reliable aircraft that has been successful and safe in service.

"They really are pretty much state-of-the-art airlines with every imaginable technical benefit the industry has come up with over the years," Daly told CNN.

"You would be optimistic that they would be quite survivable in an accident." Daly said the Turkish aviation industry has a "pretty good record" of safety, and that Turkish Airlines, the national carrier, has a "very good record."

The airline's last accident was of a small commuter jet in 2003, he said. It was a fatal crash that happened at a remote airfield in eastern Turkey, he said. "Their mainline operation is safe," Daly said. "Their pilots are well thought of."

The last accident at Schiphol Airport happened in December 2003 when an EasyJet flight carrying 103 passengers to London collided on takeoff with a lamppost during icy conditions, according to Aviation Safety Network's Web site. The crash caused significant damage to the aircraft, but no one was killed.

The other two most recent accidents at Schiphol -- in 1998 and 1997 -- also resulted in no fatalities, according to the network.

The last fatal incident at the Amsterdam airport happened in April 1994 when a KLM aircraft crashed shortly after takeoff as it tried to return to Schiphol. Three of the 24 passengers and crew members on board were killed.

wahahahaha... 200 daw oh.....5J has a 200 seater? hay nako. irresponsible journalism at its best.

You can't blame the journalist, they ain't aviation people, and perhaps, rounded up numbers, bear with 'em...

puwedeng gamiting ads ng JAL:)

Fantastic photo, JAL should buy this photo if they wish to do so...

Who flew over yesterday over Quiapo?

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/341/1200x1200/12/Quiapo012.jpg?et=PunSaTZeKi%2B%2BIfH0J%2BEl0A&nmid=212202267

Dream Skyward... :cheers:

cool photo Bernie! and yeah, JAL should buy this photo. :D is it a JAL noon or afternoon flight?

did 5J really squeeze in 200 passengers into the A320? That's an overmaximization of the cabin space.

cool photo Bernie! and yeah, JAL should buy this photo. :D is it a JAL noon or afternoon flight?

did 5J really squeez in 200 passengers into the A320? That's an overmaximization of the cabin space.

I guess even the lavatories are considered as seats in this flight:lol:

speaking of false reporting... CNN, while reporting the turkish airlines crash, reported that the plane crashed was an A380..:nuts: they changed it though....

obviously that reporter had only heard of A380.

eto pa... they already showed the picture of the plane--only one row of windows, yet they continued saying 'twas an a380 for more than half an hour, then they changed it...:nuts: CNN ha...

http://d.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/400,http%3A%2F%2Fd.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fp%2Fap%2F20090225%2Fcapt.23d1f9c8a3de44cd932e0a47d0476362.aptopix_netherlands_plane_crash_pdj131.jpg

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Scores survive plane crash in Amsterdam; 9 dead (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_on_re_eu/eu_netherlands_plane_crash)

AMSTERDAM – A Turkish Airlines jetliner plummeted out of cloudy skies and plowed into a muddy field on approach to Amsterdam on Wednesday, but remarkably some 126 people — the vast majority of those aboard — survived. The nine dead included both pilots.

The Boeing 737-800 en route from Istanbul to Amsterdam broke into three pieces when it hit the ground about two miles (three kilometers) short of the runway at Schiphol Airport at 1031 a.m. (0931 GMT, 0431 EST). The fuselage split in two, close to the cockpit, and the tail broke off.

But the wreckage didn't burn and scores of people walked away from it.

http://d.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/400,http%3A%2F%2Fd.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fp%2Fap%2F20090225%2Fcapt.23d1f9c8a3de44cd932e0a47d0476362.aptopix_netherlands_plane_crash_pdj131.jpg

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Scores survive plane crash in Amsterdam; 9 dead (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_on_re_eu/eu_netherlands_plane_crash)

AMSTERDAM – A Turkish Airlines jetliner plummeted out of cloudy skies and plowed into a muddy field on approach to Amsterdam on Wednesday, but remarkably some 126 people — the vast majority of those aboard — survived. The nine dead included both pilots.

The Boeing 737-800 en route from Istanbul to Amsterdam broke into three pieces when it hit the ground about two miles (three kilometers) short of the runway at Schiphol Airport at 1031 a.m. (0931 GMT, 0431 EST). The fuselage split in two, close to the cockpit, and the tail broke off.

But the wreckage didn't burn and scores of people walked away from it.
^^
so sorry to read about this..

the past few weeks have been freaky..a bird strike forced an emergency landing in hudson river..ice causing several deaths in buffalo, ny..now this..:ohno:

hello tony,

thank you for the presentation of FRAPORT (frankfurt airport). i have seen these in the german forums. your questions are of private matter, so i will write you a private note later.


i read your private message...thank you very much richard for your candor...and your kind invitation.

you are a very humble man...i must confess my admiration, respect and awe at your personal/career achievements. :cheers:


back to fraport : it is very hard to get any construction, expansion at frankfurt airport as there is lots of resistance to co2 emissions and pollution in germany. the country is extremly attached to biodiversity and politically it is run with a "green" touch.

it took many years to get things on the way for the expansion. but finally economics won over biodiversity. fraport is one of the countrys largest employer, so right now in times of economic down-turn it is a good job machine.

i hope this exciting project will push thru..http://www.yuanda.com.cn/UpLoadFiles/projects/business/2007110513591150351.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2849233886_a8c58c8b38_o.jpg
......................................................................................................................................^^:banana:
you see..when my wife and i travel..mostly business-related..we prefer staying in a hotel closest to the airport...

if you have flown to vancouver..you will know that you can check in one hotel quite literally at the doorstep of the airport terminal.

^^
wait till Terminal 2 annex opens and you will have that service too!:)

You can't blame the journalist, they ain't aviation people, and perhaps, rounded up numbers, bear with 'em...

Of course we can blame them, it is their job and foremost duty to deliver the facts, no more no less and that is part of responsible journalism. They have the power to move the public so they have to exercise utmost diligence in checking their news when presenting it to the public.

Will you bear with your doctor that gave you a round up dosage of medicine or perhaps an engineer that round up things just to make everything simple?

Journalists and politicians are the same, you can't trust them... but you can use them for your own interest. So play with them. :nuts:

^^Exactly, besides, not everything you see/read in the news is what they seem to be, so if they can't be trusted, bear with 'em...

Journalism and medicine are two different disciplines, as they say one can't compare apples to oranges, moving on...

You can't blame the journalist, they ain't aviation people, and perhaps, rounded up numbers, bear with 'em...

we should blame them. being journalists, they should first do research before they write anything. and not being avaition people is not a good enough reason to write something wrong about avaition.:)

agreed, they should be responsible for the accuracy of their reports, it's their job!

Pinay cancer survivor survives Turkish plane crash (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/pinoy-migration/02/26/09/update-pinay-cancer-survivor-survives-turkish-plane-crash)

by LOUI GALICIA, ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau | 02/26/2009 12:54 PM

A Filipina cancer survivor was among those who survived the Turkish Airlines plane crash in Amsterdam Wednesday, according to an exclusive report of the ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau.

The Filipina, Susan Yango, was reportedly among the 50 passengers who were left injured when a Turkish Airlines plane carrying 134 passengers on Flight TK 1951 crashed into a field short of a runway at Schipol airport in Amsterdam. The incident left nine dead.

The Boeing 737-800 had reportedly smashed into three pieces, allowing Yango to exit from the right wing.

"Yung mga lalagyan ng ano talagang nagbabagsakan. Hindi yung ano, yung lid talaga, they were coming out of the roof. Tapos makikita mo yung mga wires are coming out of the roof. Ako talaga hindi ko alam kung pano ako makalabas dun eh. I don't know how I came out. Tapos nakita ko nalang ano, get out, get out so dun ako nagpunta sa may exit, nakita ko nakabukas yung exit, dun ako sa may wing lumabas," Yango recounted.

Injuries

Yango, however, suffered injuries from the crash including a swollen right eye, cuts and bruises on her elbow, palm and waist, as well as large bump on her head.

Yango told ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau that she suffered pain from a bruise around her waist left by an airplane seatbelt, which jammed against her body upon the crash's impact. All passengers were still wearing their seatbelts because the crash occurred as the plane was making its descent, she said.

Rescue workers had immediately brought the passengers to a treatment area where they were reportedly separated into two groups, from the lightly to the seriously injured. Yango was released from the hospital at 5 p.m. Europe time, six hours after the crash.

"I was like numb, numb talaga. Hindi ko alam kung saan ako, kaya I felt na ang tagal-tagal naman ng reaction time na 'to. Then I realized na ang layo-layo naman pala namin sa street. Nakikita ko na yung mga dumadating pero wala pa sila doon. Kasi siguro nakita ko yung iba nakahiga na. They were lying down on the ground and they were just crying. They were just crying," Yango said.

Cancer survivor

In an interview with ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau, Yango said she was thankful for a third chance at life after battling with cancer a few years before.

Yango also said that she lucky that she had been asleep when the plane smashed into the ground. "If I had been awake, it would have been worse. Kasi tense ka eh, magtetense ka di ba? So mag-aano yung impact," Yango said.

Yango, who is from New York but works in Lebanon, was enroute to The Hague on a business trip Tuesday. However, she decided to reschedule her flight for the next day because of her workload.

Yango's friend Rommel Loveranes, also a Filipino was the first person to see her immediately after she was discharged from a Dutch hospital. "I was even joking about it. Of course [it's a] relief. Big relief that she's fine, almost unscathed, and yeah, two times survivor. And yeah...as if nothing happened," Loveranes said.

i read your private message...thank you very much richard for your candor...and your kind invitation.

you are a very humble man...i must confess my admiration, respect and awe at your personal/career achievements. :cheers:



i hope this exciting project will push thru..http://www.yuanda.com.cn/UpLoadFiles/projects/business/2007110513591150351.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2849233886_a8c58c8b38_o.jpg
......................................................................................................................................^^:banana:
you see..when my wife and i travel..mostly business-related..we prefer staying in a hotel closest to the airport...

if you have flown to vancouver..you will know that you can check in one hotel quite literally at the doorstep of the airport terminal.

thank you very much tony. i was educated in the philippines, at de la salle college :) ! :banana:

this project is already being constructed. completion dater 2010.
and tony, there is a hotel right next to it (on your first image between this project and the terminal). it´s the sheraton, a "stones throw" from the terminal. it in fact is on of the largest hotels in europe with 1000 rooms.

You can't blame the journalist, they ain't aviation people, and perhaps, rounded up numbers, bear with 'em...

hi hightdeprived,

i have a different opinion. a journalist has to learn that the minute he steps into the resposibility of practicing journalism, he has to follow the "holy rules". that is the first thing you need to respect and achive.

the main rule is : research your article properly. you are informing the public. your article should only contain the truth and be based on facts and not on assumtions.

otherwise you are missinforming everyone !

people learn from what they read. do you like to learn wrong ? nobody does.

you see what i mean ? thanks for your understanding. rds M.

^^
wait till Terminal 2 annex opens and you will have that service too!:)

now this sounds quite interesting. so they will refurbish the old hotel there and possibly build the T2 annex around it ?

that is what i proposed in this forum some year or so ago.
when did you say the annex would be finished arianespace ? was it 2012 ?

... in DELTA COLORS

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/delta-nwa.jpg
February 26, 2009

^^ I love flying Delta and all, but their livery is butt-ugly! They should bring back the design prior to this current one, the one that looks like the tail is waving. Oh yeah, I miss seeing the distinct "red tails" of Northwest. :cry:

This is just the second time I've seen Northwest in Delta Colors. I'll try to take pics of NW since its extinction is imminent. :colgate:

hi hightdeprived,

i have a different opinion. a journalist has to learn that the minute he steps into the resposibility of practicing journalism, he has to follow the "holy rules". that is the first thing you need to respect and achive.

the main rule is : research your article properly. you are informing the public. your article should only contain the truth and be based on facts and not on assumtions.

otherwise you are missinforming everyone !

people learn from what they read. do you like to learn wrong ? nobody does.

you see what i mean ? thanks for your understanding. rds M.
OK I could have expressed my opinion in the wrong light.
I do understand your opinions on the matter, my bottom line is, I don't trust these news reports that much anyway, as per the 'bear with it' part i'm referring to, we as aviation enthusiasts(or people) have a better understanding as to how or as to what could have happened, hence our ability to doubt these news reports.

There are proper channels in addressing such inappropriate news reports. Mistakes are inevitable regardless how careful journalists can get, the worst end-product of such scenario is when inaccurate information was disseminated without anybody airing their gripes through the proper channels to address the problem.

I'd say, take the matter to the concerned parties, and bashing the same somewhere else does not necessarily improve the situation, so if one would care less about the correction of the matter through the proper channels, rather than bashing and ganging up to whoever wrote the story, bear with it.

We're out of topic, moving on...

OK I could have expressed my opinion in the wrong light.
I do understand your opinions on the matter, my bottom line is, I don't trust these news reports that much anyway, as per the 'bear with it' part i'm referring to, we as aviation enthusiasts(or people) have a better understanding as to how or as to what could have happened, hence our ability to doubt these news reports.

There are proper channels in addressing such inappropriate news reports. Mistakes are inevitable regardless how careful journalists can get, the worst end-product of such scenario is when inaccurate information was disseminated without anybody airing their gripes through the proper channels to address the problem.

I'd say, take the matter to the concerned parties, and bashing the same somewhere else does not necessarily improve the situation, so if one would care less about the correction of the matter through the proper channels, rather than bashing and ganging up to whoever wrote the story, bear with it.

We're out of topic, moving on...

i get the picture, your´re right, back to topics....

i saw this in Zest Air website....which I-Destination kaya ang magoopen?...hhmmm

http://www.zestair.com.ph/images/5.jpg

^^ Are these guys back in the air after the MA-60 mishap?

i saw this in Zest Air website....which I-Destination kaya ang magoopen?...hhmmm

http://www.zestair.com.ph/images/5.jpg

sana may dvo singapore haha! wala na sa bupak eh

^^ sana naman.. sinali dapat nila ang Cebu-Iligan or Manila-Iligan sa kanilang route... nag back-out kasi ang PAL Ex last year...

maski-unsaon....WALAY airport ang iligan!!!! taman nalang ka ug mangandom...blame it on the politics who did not push through with the linamon international airport!!!yeah, i heard that news before a long time ago...and what i heard also that there was no chance to put up an international airport in northern mindanao because cebu is near in the vicinity...but hello there, what is this laguindingan project doing now?

i saw this in Zest Air website....which I-Destination kaya ang magoopen?...hhmmm

http://www.zestair.com.ph/images/5.jpg

I guess two of them are to Fukuoka and Osaka.

^^

T2 annex will start construction in 2012.

As to the journalist issues, news reporters are not expert at everything. What they knew by heart are basic journalism values. Minute detail are sometimes relegated to special reports because they can dwell more in depth analysis on that topic. I myself was one during my school days, and you cannot be expert much more knowledgeable at every news interest there is. Consider yourself reporting agriculture and fisheries issues, or interpreting the stock market or the shipping industry or to the arts of politics. Probably, the boat captain or the investor would laugh at you. The point is, they have given us the basic information. They don't have to explain it to us by heart much more being to technical about it. Even aviation magazines which is reported every month has plenty of mistakes. What more to on the spot reporting.

As to Iligan airport, I already made a post to that, I think it was on the previous thread. For those who did not able to catch it, dont blame PAL for not flying Baloi. The approach is very dangerous to enemy fire. If you haven't notice, a military aircraft landing in Baloi was even fired at during approach maneuver. Do you want to risk your life on similar situation? The MILF war is not yet over. Its more prudent for CAAP not to certify it for civilian operations because the military cannot guaranty the safety of passenger liners while flying on that area.

As for ZEST international destination, I already made a post on it. Please back read 1-3 pages. :)

... in DELTA COLORS

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/delta-nwa.jpg
February 26, 2009

wow. nice to see Delta in NAIA.:)

[QUOTE=arianespace;32876476]^^

T2 annex will start construction in 2012.

As to the journalist issues, news reporters are not expert at everything. What they knew by heart are basic journalism values. Minute detail are sometimes relegated to special reports because they can dwell more in depth analysis on that topic. I myself was one during my school days, and you cannot be expert much more knowledgeable at every news interest there is. Consider yourself reporting agriculture and fisheries issues, or interpreting the stock market or the shipping industry or to the arts of politics. Probably, the boat captain or the investor would laugh at you. The point is, they have given us the basic information. They don't have to explain it to us by heart much more being to technical about it. Even aviation magazines which is reported every month has plenty of mistakes. What more to on the spot reporting.

[QUOTE=arianespace;32876476]^^

T2 annex will start construction in 2012.

As to the journalist issues, news reporters are not expert at everything. What they knew by heart are basic journalism values. Minute detail are sometimes relegated to special reports because they can dwell more in depth analysis on that topic. I myself was one during my school days, and you cannot be expert much more knowledgeable at every news interest there is. Consider yourself reporting agriculture and fisheries issues, or interpreting the stock market or the shipping industry or to the arts of politics. Probably, the boat captain or the investor would laugh at you. The point is, they have given us the basic information. They don't have to explain it to us by heart much more being to technical about it. Even aviation magazines which is reported every month has plenty of mistakes. What more to on the spot reporting.

sorry, i don´t share your opinion. if i am not relevant to report, i don´t go into any details where i have no precise information to offer. if they are not experts, fine, no problem. but then stay out of infos that rely on expert information status.

please consider the following : journalists are informing the public. every word in written, specially printed matter is taken for true by belief from those who have not had opportunity of distinguished education and therefore cannot differenciate.

just check in the former pages all the questions we all have after false or unprecise information, doesn´t that discount and answer your arguments in this matter ?

i can only repeat : a journalist has resposibility towards his readers. teach journalists how to go about within these terms and we all will be better informed and thus, better educated to share TRUE wisdom with our neighbors, families and friends and have TRUE material to discuss with instead of guessing and making a rhyme on what we don´t really know....

thank you for your detailed information otherwise. in my opinion (again) you have profound knowledge, more than anyone else here on aviation matters and we all are very greatfull for your detailed information. :banana:


salamat po.

Senators seek probe on OFWs' extortion at NAIA (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/150640/Senators-seek-probe-on-OFWs-extortion-at-NAIA)
02/27/2009 | 11:35 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Two senators asked for an investigation into the alleged extortion by several officials on aspiring overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA).

In separate resolutions, Senators Manuel Villar Jr and Jose "Jinggoy" Estrada sought an inquiry into the alleged corrupt practices of several officials from the NAIA, Bureau of Immigration and National Bureau of Investigation personnel in the area.

Citing reports reaching his office, Villar said at least 500 OFWs failed to leave for the Middle East since January after failing to shell out “grease money" for the said officials.

Some properly documented Dubai and Kuwait-bound workers were allegedly stopped by airport authorities to board their planes, Villar said, even though they have been “thoroughly processed."

“And that, even after verifying the documents and securing boarding passes, the NBI and BI agents at the airport departure gates stop OFWs on suspicion of being undocumented workers," read Villar’s resolution.

The senator said that between 20 and 30 OFWs are being barred from leaving the country every day “for unjust reason."

For his part, Estrada, who chairs the Senate labor, employment and human resource committee, said that an immediate investigation of the matter is imperative to weed out any hindrance to OFWs in giving their families a better life.

"The extortion perpetrated by these government personnel to those who have provided lifeblood to the economy that the Filipino depends upon for life is reason enough that should not be countenance and therefore should be looked upon with great scrutiny and vigilance," he said. - Mark Joseph Ubalde, GMANews.TV

Saudi Airlines in Manila receives threat (http://http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=443981&publicationSubCategoryId=200)
Updated February 26, 2009 11:01 PM


MANILA, Philippines (AP) - Manila airport authorities have tightened security for Saudi Arabian Airlines after receiving intelligence reports of possible security threats against the airline.

Robert Uy, senior assistant general manager at Ninoy Aquino International Airport, said airport authorities have doubled the number of guards posted at the airline's office and are enforcing stricter baggage checks.

The Philippine Foreign Affairs Department would only confirm that it had received a request from a Middle Eastern embassy for added security measures at Manila airport.

Phones rang unanswered tonight at the airline's offices. No further details were available.

Pinay cancer survivor survives Turkish plane crash (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/pinoy-migration/02/26/09/update-pinay-cancer-survivor-survives-turkish-plane-crash)



Anyone else think this girl is malas! Boy parang di lang ko sure I want to ride a plane with her!

^^ ang 100% accurate lang naman sa broadsheets ay ang date...

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/

Cebu Pacific applying for rights to fly UAE
talks with SQ for triple seven on going

February 27, 2009

Manila - Low Cost Carrier airline, Cebu Pacific is applying for rights to fly Abu Dhabi and Dubai of the United Arab Emirates, sources from the CAB said.

Lance Gokongwei, the Airline President said that they are looking at the UAE market. "We hope to acquire the rights to fly in the Middle East to serve more overseas Filipino workers. For the moment, we are looking at UAE."

The airline is currently in talks with Singapore Airlines for their 4 Boeing 777 aircraft slated for retirement this year. Singapore Airlines is retiring their 12 year old triple seven as new Airbus 330 joins their fleet by March this year.

The Civil Aeronautics Board said that the airline will probably fly from Clark as the entitlements for Manila were already taken by both Emirates and Philippine Airlines. The new ASA between UAE and RP added 42 new flights to and from Clark airport. The Philippines was also granted 21 more weekly flights to Cebu and another 21 more to be used to other points other than Manila, Clark and Cebu .

The airline intends to fly to Australia, Japan and the Middle East. Currently, Cebu Pacific is in the process of applying rights to fly to the Middle Eastern countries that has recently expanded bilateral air transport agreement with the Philippines. CAB will meet its Australian counterpart this March.

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/

Bahrain bags more flights to RP
By Jose Bimbo F. Santos
February 27, 2009



THE TWO-DAY air service negotiations between the Philippines and Bahrain ended yesterday with that Middle Eastern state bagging more flights.

Specifically, Bahrain is now entitled to 50 weekly flights to the Philippines, up from the current 13. Philippines, on the other hand, has no flight restrictions to Bahrain.

The 50 flights are divided as follows: eight flights to Manila, 28 to Subic Freeport, seven to Cebu, and another seven to other points except Manila.

Porvenir P. Porciuncula, deputy executive director of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), described the air talks with Bahrain as "very friendly and cordial."

The Philippine negotiating panel, led by Transportation and Communication Under-secretary Doroteo A. Reyes II, included representatives from the Department of Foreign Affairs, Department of Trade and Industry, Department of Tourism, CAB, and airport authorities.

Philippine Airlines flies daily between Manila and Bahrain under a code-sharing agreement with Gulf Airways.

Cebu Pacific Air, meanwhile, said yesterday that it was open to mounting flights to Bahrain. "We welcome the development in the RP-Bahrain agreement. We are always looking for possible destinations for our route network expansion," Cebu Pacific Vice-President for Marketing and Product Candice A. Iyog said in a separate phone interview.

Mr. Porciuncula said Zest Airways had informally expressed interest in mounting flights to Bahrain, though this could not be confirmed with airline executivves as of press time.

The country is next scheduled to negotiate with Australia and Brunei.
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... in DELTA COLORS

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/delta-nwa.jpg
February 26, 2009


So sad goodbye NWA... I think DL livery is good in B744. It's nice.

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/

Bahrain bags more flights to RP
By Jose Bimbo F. Santos
February 27, 2009



THE TWO-DAY air service negotiations between the Philippines and Bahrain ended yesterday with that Middle Eastern state bagging more flights.

Specifically, Bahrain is now entitled to 50 weekly flights to the Philippines, up from the current 13. Philippines, on the other hand, has no flight restrictions to Bahrain.

The 50 flights are divided as follows: eight flights to Manila, 28 to Subic Freeport, seven to Cebu, and another seven to other points except Manila.

Porvenir P. Porciuncula, deputy executive director of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), described the air talks with Bahrain as "very friendly and cordial."

The Philippine negotiating panel, led by Transportation and Communication Under-secretary Doroteo A. Reyes II, included representatives from the Department of Foreign Affairs, Department of Trade and Industry, Department of Tourism, CAB, and airport authorities.

Philippine Airlines flies daily between Manila and Bahrain under a code-sharing agreement with Gulf Airways.

Cebu Pacific Air, meanwhile, said yesterday that it was open to mounting flights to Bahrain. "We welcome the development in the RP-Bahrain agreement. We are always looking for possible destinations for our route network expansion," Cebu Pacific Vice-President for Marketing and Product Candice A. Iyog said in a separate phone interview.

Mr. Porciuncula said Zest Airways had informally expressed interest in mounting flights to Bahrain, though this could not be confirmed with airline executivves as of press time.

The country is next scheduled to negotiate with Australia and Brunei.
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Parang walang Clark? Or the " 28 to Subic Freeport" means 28 flight to DMIA?

Parang walang Clark? Or the " 28 to Subic Freeport" means 28 flight to DMIA?

here we go again....journalism has to researched properly.

good question : clark or subic ??

here we go again....journalism has to researched properly.

good question : clark or subic ??

Gulf Air upgrades Manila Service
http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/02/gulf-air-upgrades-manila-service.html

MANAMA, BAHRAIN, - Gulf Air, the national carrier of the Kingdom of Bahrain, intends to upgrade Manila service from Airbus 340 to Boeing 777-300ER aircraft starting May this year.

The airline recently signed an agreement to lease four new Boeing 777 ER aircraft from Jet Airways as part of the airline's re-fleeting and product-enhancement strategy. Three of the new aircraft will join the airline during March 09 while the fourth one will join in May.

The aircraft will be used on a number of routes including flights to London, flights to Kuala Lumpur, flights to Bangkok and intra Gulf Routes, gradually replacing the Airbus 340s.

"The introduction of these four aircraft is another important step in our strategic direction towards re-fleeting, enhancing our product and strengthening our presence as the carrier of choice in the Middle East and beyond," said Gulf Air Chief Executive Officer Mr. Bjorn Naf.

The kingdom of Bahrain and the Philippines recently expanded its Air agreement Wednesday with the Middle Eastern state bagging more flight entitlement for the island State.

Bahrain is now entitled to 50 weekly flights to the Philippines, up from the current 13. Philippines, on the other hand, has no flight restrictions to Bahrain. Philippine Airlines on the other hand enjoyed fifth freedom to London and Europe.

The 50 flights are divided as follows:
8 flights to Manila,
28 flights to Subic,
7 flights to Cebu,
7 flights to either Clark, Davao, and Zamboanga.

Porvenir P. Porciuncula, deputy executive director of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), described the air talks with Bahrain as "very friendly and cordial."

Philippine Airlines flies daily between Manila and Bahrain under a code-sharing agreement with Gulf Airways. It is also planning to launch new services from Cebu.

The wide body Boeing 777-300ER is the largest long-range twin-engine commercial airplane in the world. It extends the 777 family's span of capabilities, bringing twin-engine efficiency and reliability to the long-range market. The aircraft come with a luxurious interior and a host of amenities providing the most comfortable travel experience to both premium and economy class passengers in a three-class configuration, i.e., First, Business and Economy with a capacity of 312 seats.

... in DELTA COLORS

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/delta-nwa.jpg
February 26, 2009

nice photo! we'll surely miss the livery of NW. as of Feb second week, I still have seen NW flying to Manila. i love the NW livery. neat and simple.

Budget airline mulls fee for toilet use (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20090228-191591/Budget-airline-mulls-fee-for-toilet-use)
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 11:23:00 02/28/2009


LONDON -- Irish budget airline Ryanair is considering charging passengers to use the toilet during flights, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Friday.

O'Leary said the Dublin-based carrier was looking at the possibility of installing toilet doors in its planes which would only open with the insertion of a one pound coin (1.10 euros, 1.40 dollars).

"One thing we have looked at in the past, and are looking at again, is the possibility of maybe putting a coin slot on the toilet door, so that people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny in future," he told the BBC.

He added: "I don't think there is anybody in history that has got on board a Ryanair aircraft with less than a pound."

It is the latest Ryanair idea to save money in the tough economic climate.

Last week the airline confirmed it planned to close all its airport check-in desks by the end of the year to cut costs.

A Ryanair spokesman, Stephen McNamara, later played down the toilet charge idea.

"Michael makes a lot of this stuff up as he goes along and while this has been discussed internally there are no immediate plans to introduce it," he said.

:lol:

Budget airline mulls fee for toilet use (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20090228-191591/Budget-airline-mulls-fee-for-toilet-use)
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 11:23:00 02/28/2009


LONDON -- Irish budget airline Ryanair is considering charging passengers to use the toilet during flights, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Friday.

O'Leary said the Dublin-based carrier was looking at the possibility of installing toilet doors in its planes which would only open with the insertion of a one pound coin (1.10 euros, 1.40 dollars).

"One thing we have looked at in the past, and are looking at again, is the possibility of maybe putting a coin slot on the toilet door, so that people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny in future," he told the BBC.

He added: "I don't think there is anybody in history that has got on board a Ryanair aircraft with less than a pound."

It is the latest Ryanair idea to save money in the tough economic climate.

Last week the airline confirmed it planned to close all its airport check-in desks by the end of the year to cut costs.

A Ryanair spokesman, Stephen McNamara, later played down the toilet charge idea.

"Michael makes a lot of this stuff up as he goes along and while this has been discussed internally there are no immediate plans to introduce it," he said.

Hmm....if a B747 or A380 would employ this scheme on a trans-oceanic flights, I wonder how much money can the generate? :lol:

reminds me of the Madtv airline safety video. :lol:

"Lavatories are located at the front and rear... of the airport."

Budget airline mulls fee for toilet use (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20090228-191591/Budget-airline-mulls-fee-for-toilet-use)
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 11:23:00 02/28/2009


LONDON -- Irish budget airline Ryanair is considering charging passengers to use the toilet during flights, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Friday.

O'Leary said the Dublin-based carrier was looking at the possibility of installing toilet doors in its planes which would only open with the insertion of a one pound coin (1.10 euros, 1.40 dollars).

"One thing we have looked at in the past, and are looking at again, is the possibility of maybe putting a coin slot on the toilet door, so that people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny in future," he told the BBC.

He added: "I don't think there is anybody in history that has got on board a Ryanair aircraft with less than a pound."

It is the latest Ryanair idea to save money in the tough economic climate.

Last week the airline confirmed it planned to close all its airport check-in desks by the end of the year to cut costs.

A Ryanair spokesman, Stephen McNamara, later played down the toilet charge idea.

"Michael makes a lot of this stuff up as he goes along and while this has been discussed internally there are no immediate plans to introduce it," he said.

:lol: :lol:

what's next..? charging the passenger for using the toilet paper....? :lol:

The question is, do you drop quarters or a pound in each drop when you take a crap??LOL no coin drop, no toilet papers as well?

^^ Remember on the previous threads about that budget airline joke? :lol:...:ohno:

Budget airline mulls fee for toilet use (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20090228-191591/Budget-airline-mulls-fee-for-toilet-use)
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 11:23:00 02/28/2009


LONDON -- Irish budget airline Ryanair is considering charging passengers to use the toilet during flights, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Friday.

O'Leary said the Dublin-based carrier was looking at the possibility of installing toilet doors in its planes which would only open with the insertion of a one pound coin (1.10 euros, 1.40 dollars).

"One thing we have looked at in the past, and are looking at again, is the possibility of maybe putting a coin slot on the toilet door, so that people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny in future," he told the BBC.

He added: "I don't think there is anybody in history that has got on board a Ryanair aircraft with less than a pound."

It is the latest Ryanair idea to save money in the tough economic climate.

Last week the airline confirmed it planned to close all its airport check-in desks by the end of the year to cut costs.

A Ryanair spokesman, Stephen McNamara, later played down the toilet charge idea.

"Michael makes a lot of this stuff up as he goes along and while this has been discussed internally there are no immediate plans to introduce it," he said.

in my opinion THEY ARE NUTS:ohno:

the next thing will be they will charge you for sitting down.:nuts:

has this been posted yet ?

Air Philippines to fly Surigao
February 18, 2009

Air Philippines to fly Surigao this summer!

Manila- Low Cost Carrier Air Philippines intends to fly Manila-Surigao 4 times weekly starting March this year. The airline founded in 1995, will substitute PAL Express Q400 service and operates on code share agreement with Philippine Airlines.

A Boeing 727-200 jet aircraft, which seat 118 passengers in a monoclass layout, will be deployed on the route. The schedule will eventually be increase to daily flight this summer.

Air Philippines President & CEO Capt. Edilberto R. Medina said that it just concluded a probing flight to Surigao City on 16 February and they intend to launch flight there as soon as possible.

Surigao will becomes Air Philippines’ 9th domestic destination in the airline’s expanding route network based at hubs in Manila and Cebu. The airline has recently suspended its commercial operations to three major Mindanao cities in July last year and reduced much of its frequency for its main Visayas-Mindanao service due to massive losses and intense competition with Cebu Pacific. It canceled its services from Manila to the cities of Davao (daily), Zamboanga (daily) and Cagayan de Oro (twice daily). It also decreased flights between Cebu City and Davao City. It also reduced the frequency of its Manila-Puerto Princesa City service leaving only one daily flights for the route. It just restarted Manila-Davao late last year.

Airline industry sources said the airline’s decision to cut its route network was part of cost-cutting amid the skyrocketing price of aviation fuel. The airline has been hit particularly hard by high petroleum prices in 2008 because its jet fleet consists mostly of 20-year-old Boeing 737-200s, whose engines are substantially less fuel-efficient than their modern counterparts.

The airline retained only its profitable routes and currently flies to Puerto Princesa, Iloilo, Davao, Naga, and Ozamiz. It has 7 active Boeing 737-200 advance and 1 Boeing 737-300 aircraft on its fleet. Presently, it operates only 4 aircraft and grounded 4 others. Air Philippines has announced a plan to completely ground its 737s by 2010 but deferred its implementation due to massive losses in 2008. The airline is expected to receive two A320 this year.

Air Philippines carried 913,570 passengers in 2008. It will resume twice daily flights from Cebu to Davao and Iloilo starting March 16, 2009.
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out of an older article conserning SEAir from philippineairspace.com :

......Zapanta added that Seair is anticipating growth in its passenger traffic this year because of the expansion in its routes and the arrival of its two brand new Airbus A320-200s leased from Tiger Airways, a budget carrier based in Singapore. “The arrival of the A320s will boost capacity offering and the number of passengers carried.” The two A320s, scheduled to arrive on March 1, are both 180-seater planes.

On November 28, the airline started flying to Kota Kinabalu. In April 2009, it will begin its runs to Singapore and Macau; in August 2009, to Bangkok and Hong Kong, as well as Cebu and Davao; and in September 2009, possibly Incheon (in South Korea), Kuala Lumpur and Kaohsiung (in China). All new flights will be out of the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark, Pampanga, the carrier’s base of operations.

so we can expect some fresh impulses in philippine civilian aviation soon again ! :banana:

Budget airline mulls fee for toilet use (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20090228-191591/Budget-airline-mulls-fee-for-toilet-use)
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 11:23:00 02/28/2009


LONDON -- Irish budget airline Ryanair is considering charging passengers to use the toilet during flights, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Friday.

O'Leary said the Dublin-based carrier was looking at the possibility of installing toilet doors in its planes which would only open with the insertion of a one pound coin (1.10 euros, 1.40 dollars).

"One thing we have looked at in the past, and are looking at again, is the possibility of maybe putting a coin slot on the toilet door, so that people might actually have to spend a pound to spend a penny in future," he told the BBC.

He added: "I don't think there is anybody in history that has got on board a Ryanair aircraft with less than a pound."

It is the latest Ryanair idea to save money in the tough economic climate.

Last week the airline confirmed it planned to close all its airport check-in desks by the end of the year to cut costs.

A Ryanair spokesman, Stephen McNamara, later played down the toilet charge idea.

"Michael makes a lot of this stuff up as he goes along and while this has been discussed internally there are no immediate plans to introduce it," he said.

What if you only have large denomination bills or have a ton of coins none of which are one euro coins. Patay na!

Inter Island Airlines to operate scheduled flights from Vigan City (http://www.alternativeairlines.com/aa/news.cfm?ccs=214&cs=3621)

http://www.alternativeairlines.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/010/AA_Inter_Island_Airlines_logo_AAM.jpg

Inter Island are the long established airline in the Philippines who have been charter and air taxi services for over 20 years.

As of March 19 Inter Island Airlines are to become a scheduled carrier when they commence domestic flights from Mindoro airport in Vigan City to the capital Manila. Flights will operate on Thurs and Sunday leaving Vigan at 1600 and the return flights are on Fri and Monday departing Manila at 0615. The presence of scheduled flights to Vigan City will be a welcome tourism boost as well as creating and important air link with Manila that will be of benefit to the commercial sector.

Vigan City is a town of historic importance and is a UNESCO Heritage Site and is located on the western coast of the large island of Luzon, facing the South China Sea.

It is also is one of numerous Hispanic towns in the Philippines, and is well-known for its cobblestone streets, and a unique architecture that fuses Philippine building design, and construction with colonial European architecture.

The airline has various aircraft in its fleet and range from ten seater piston engined planes to jets with a seating capacity of close on 200 passengers.

Inter Island Airlines to operate scheduled flights from Vigan City (http://www.alternativeairlines.com/aa/news.cfm?ccs=214&cs=3621)

http://www.alternativeairlines.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/010/AA_Inter_Island_Airlines_logo_AAM.jpg

Inter Island are the long established airline in the Philippines who have been charter and air taxi services for over 20 years.

As of March 19 Inter Island Airlines are to become a scheduled carrier when they commence domestic flights from Mindoro airport in Vigan City to the capital Manila. Flights will operate on Thurs and Sunday leaving Vigan at 1600 and the return flights are on Fri and Monday departing Manila at 0615. The presence of scheduled flights to Vigan City will be a welcome tourism boost as well as creating and important air link with Manila that will be of benefit to the commercial sector.

Vigan City is a town of historic importance and is a UNESCO Heritage Site and is located on the western coast of the large island of Luzon, facing the South China Sea.

It is also is one of numerous Hispanic towns in the Philippines, and is well-known for its cobblestone streets, and a unique architecture that fuses Philippine building design, and construction with colonial European architecture.

The airline has various aircraft in its fleet and range from ten seater piston engined planes to jets with a seating capacity of close on 200 passengers.

what jet is this ??

from www.philippineairspace.blogspot.com

NAIA Terminal 1 is ready for two A380

March 1, 2009

Manila - Manila International Airport Authority general manager Alfonso Cusi disclosed that Terminal 1 is now ready to accommodate 2 Airbus 380 at any given time.
Cusi, in an interview with reporters recently, said that "MIAA has been focusing on how to turn NAIA into a globally competitive airport, providing new facilities and services consistent with international standards".

The NAIA airport complex would undergo further improvements in anticipation of the other international airline transfer at Terminal 3. Cusi said that the existing runway already could manage to service large new aircrafts as noted by the 2007 team of the A380. But the taxiway need further expansion to accommodate wide body jets of airlines that will operate at Terminal 3. Currently they are expanding the airport taxiway for wide body jet maneuvers.

A Cebu Pacific plane was recently stuck at its expanded taxiway when it ran into the wet asphalt that was not yet cured. The taxiways in front of Terminal 3 and old Domestic Terminal used to accommodate only narrow body jets from Cebu Pacific, Zest Air and Air Philippines.

what jet is this ??

its a small charter airline based in NAIA....
what I know is that they have a Yak-40 jet...

http://www.interislandairlines.com/Images/front.jpg


from www.philippineairspace.blogspot.com

NAIA Terminal 1 is ready for two A380

March 1, 2009

Manila - Manila International Airport Authority general manager Alfonso Cusi disclosed that Terminal 1 is now ready to accommodate 2 Airbus 380 at any given time.
Cusi, in an interview with reporters recently, said that "MIAA has been focusing on how to turn NAIA into a globally competitive airport, providing new facilities and services consistent with international standards".

The NAIA airport complex would undergo further improvements in anticipation of the other international airline transfer at Terminal 3. Cusi said that the existing runway already could manage to service large new aircrafts as noted by the 2007 team of the A380. But the taxiway need further expansion to accommodate wide body jets of airlines that will operate at Terminal 3. Currently they are expanding the airport taxiway for wide body jet maneuvers.

A Cebu Pacific plane was recently stuck at its expanded taxiway when it ran into the wet asphalt that was not yet cured. The taxiways in front of Terminal 3 and old Domestic Terminal used to accommodate only narrow body jets from Cebu Pacific, Zest Air and Air Philippines.

I hope they will also install third jet bridge for the upper portion of A380...

... in DELTA COLORS


Just seeing that or any other picture of N665US in the Delta livery is bittersweet. Being born in Red Tail territory and having spent a hefty portion of my flying life with the airline, seeing the Northwest brand disappear is going to be difficult for this flyer. :(

JhBLtg3y0Vg

reposting my NW photo as tribute to the airline. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2973109753_3ee3a846e7_b.jpg
taken Oct of last year.

I'll miss NWA also. :(

[QUOTE=boom_box;32988704]its a small charter airline based in NAIA....
what I know is that they have a Yak-40 jet...

http://www.interislandairlines.com/Images/front.jpg


thanks for your reply boombox but definately no go.
the yak cannot accomodate some 200 passengers. i presume they took over the MD 80 from former asian spirit or we have another false journalistic info.

new airline company ba to?

Just seeing that or any other picture of N665US in the Delta livery is bittersweet. Being born in Red Tail territory and having spent a hefty portion of my flying life with the airline, seeing the Northwest brand disappear is going to be difficult for this flyer. :(

JhBLtg3y0Vg

Dude, whyd'ya have to do that, Joe? You made me very verklempt while watching that vidlip. :cry: I'm gonna miss seeing those red tails. :( I will always have fond memories of NW, especially at their megahubs at MSP and DTW.

But on the other hand, I also love DL! :okay: I find solace in knowing that NW picked the right carrier to merge into. :colgate:

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/
InterIsland opens flight to Vigan
March 1, 2009

Manila- Charter airline and air taxi company InterIsland intends to commence domestic scheduled flights to Mindoro airport in Vigan starting March 19 from Manila domestic airport.

The Luc Helgen airline will operate 4 times a week on Thursday, Friday, Sunday and Monday schedule utilizing 60 seater Yakolev 40 aircraft.

Ilocos Sur Governor Deogracias Victor "DV" B. Savellano said that "With the existence of these flights, the province and Vigan City will become more accessible to foreign and domestic tourists and investors, which will contribute to the improvement of our trade and commercial industries."

"When more tourists' will arrived in the province, the private transport sectors and producers of unique local products will greatly benefited, thus, the presence of commercial flights in Vigan airport will generate job opportunities and better income to the local residents," he added.

To sustain the flights, the airline needs a load of at least 30 passengers per flight. Air fare for one- way travel of a passenger starts from P3, 450.00.

Vigan City is a UNESCO Heritage Site located on the western coast of Luzon which is facing the South China Sea.

The airline operates non-scheduled passenger and cargo air charter services to Caticlan, Tablas, Coron and

this clears our inquiries. some reporter made out of a 60 - a 200 passenger plane. i wonder what is going on in some journalists heads

new airline company ba to?

matagal na yang running ang Interisland...
two of their Yak-40 (RP-C2803 and RP-C2695) burst the tires upon landing in Caticlan...

@majaba

yeah.. another erroneous report of our so-called media... :ohno:
I wonder if the who report that article did his/her research about Yak-40 planes..
Its really a question where did he get that numbers...

^^ lol...just like that Ceb Pac report...lagi na lang 200 pax. :lol:

why did they put 200 when the plane is obviously small??? :lol:

I recalled seeing a photo caption stating that the plane was an A330 when actually it was a 757...they really should do their reasearch properly.

@ Philippine Airlines flights to Delhi

I think this is a smart move. Besides O&D traffic, PH should also try to get a piece of the vast India to Usa west coast traffic by offering convenient connection flights to the Bay Area, San Francisco, Los Angeles and maybe Las Vegas; Some months back India's Jet Airways tried to do a India- PVG- SFO flight, but was not successful due to various reasons. Currently all the traffic is going through HKG, SIN, BKK, FRA and DXB; Maybe PH can offer a better product.

On the other side, PH should try to get an Indian codeshare partner, so that they aslo reach the markets beyond Delhi;

Anyways, this is just my point of view.

While I have also flown PAL, Cebu Pacific, Asian Spirit, Air Ads, US Airways, United Airlines, Olympic Airlines, Thai Airways and Continental Airlines, Northwest is still my favorite airline. My family just loves the airline, and having served Manila continuously for the last 60 years, hopefully Delta will continue what Northwest has done for so long: connect America to the orient.

For that, here's another "Farewell, Northwest" video (aptly titled "The Sun Will Never Set on Northwest Airlines"):

-iJkoezNeyI

whenever I heard a news about the shortage of pilots in any airlines.. Its really a big opportunity out there... the problem is.. It's the most expensive career path to choose... :(

It is quite sad...

The first airline I've ever flown on was NWA back in July 1998.

That was the day I immigrated to the United States.

While I have also flown PAL, Cebu Pacific, Asian Spirit, Air Ads, US Airways, United Airlines, Olympic Airlines, Thai Airways and Continental Airlines, Northwest is still my favorite airline. My family just loves the airline, and having served Manila continuously for the last 60 years, hopefully Delta will continue what Northwest has done for so long: connect America to the orient.

For that, here's another "Farewell, Northwest" video (aptly titled "The Sun Will Never Set on Northwest Airlines"):

-iJkoezNeyI

Man....you're pouring on the nostalgia real thick there. :lol: But seriously, I'm really, really, really sad about NW ceasing operations and being a separate entity in the aviation industry. :cry: NW will always be remembered fondly by Fil-Ams since most of us rode their planes back and forth between the US and the Philippines. :colgate:

this clears our inquiries. some reporter made out of a 60 - a 200 passenger plane. i wonder what is going on in some journalists heads

I took this photo back in 2007. The Interisland Yak-40 was sitting unused near the domestic terminal. I think if you add up the seats in their fleet, you might get 200 seats. :nuts:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e289/sikatuna/IMG_4915.jpg

Ryanair considers charging passengers to use toiletFebruary 28, 2009
Budget airline Ryanair is considering charging passengers to use the toilet on its flights.

Chief executive Michael O'Leary said the no-frills Irish carrier was looking at the possibility of charging STG1 ($A2.20) to enter its on-board lavatories.

"One thing we have looked at in the past, and are looking at again, is the possibility of maybe putting a coin slot on the toilet door, so that people might actually have to spend a pound to `spend a penny'," he told the BBC.

"I don't think there is anybody in history that has got on board a Ryanair aircraft with less than a pound."

Mr O'Leary defended the idea, saying the airline was always keen to find ways of raising "discretionary revenue" to keep airfares down and train stations often charged 20 pence ($A0.45) to use their public toilets.

Ryanair has a reputation for its high ancillary charges.

Passengers have to pay extra for such things as check-in luggage, most card transactions and refreshments purchased on board its aircraft.

Man....you're pouring on the nostalgia real thick there. :lol: But seriously, I'm really, really, really sad about NW ceasing operations and being a separate entity in the aviation industry. :cry: NW will always be remembered fondly by Fil-Ams since most of us rode their planes back and forth between the US and the Philippines. :colgate:

I'd be one of them, I think this is the only airline I've ever flown with back and forth to the Philippines and the US from when I was very little until that last visit I've had 3 years ago. (I need to try PAL atleast once for their transpacific service not just domestic) Oh well, I wondered before why Delta doesn't fly to the Philippines, now, I know they will...


BTW, I don't mean to be sounding like an ass, but I wonder why we even worry about what Ryanair's downgrade in services when Ryanair does not even fly to asia. Different LCCs have their own set of rules and discrete services.

I'd be one of them, I think this is the only airline I've ever flown with back and forth to the Philippines and the US from when I was very little until that last visit I've had 3 years ago. (I need to try PAL atleast once for their transpacific service not just domestic) Oh well, I wondered before why Delta doesn't fly to the Philippines, now, I know they will...


BTW, I don't mean to be sounding like an ass, but I wonder why we even worry about what Ryanair's downgrade in services when Ryanair does not even fly to asia. Different LCCs have their own set of rules and discrete services.

You'll never know if the Ryanair thing is successful we might see our LCCs follow.

You'll never know if the Ryanair thing is successful we might see our LCCs follow.

I dunno if Filipinos are amenable with that...kulang na lang, baka murahin na lang ng mga pasahero ang CebuPacific nyan if ever that happens...

Well, it works on Gateway public CRs...pero I think baka kasama naman sa binabayaran ang pag-CR....


But anyway, a question:
I was wondering why is it that there are some destinations that are much cheaper as compared to the other in CebuPacific despite the similarity in terms of distance?

For example: P288 for Cebu & Iloilo while its P588 for Bacolod or Kalibo?

You'll never know if the Ryanair thing is successful we might see our LCCs follow.
I don't know about that.... If they started selling/charging toilet papers to passengers....

I dunno if Filipinos are amenable with that...kulang na lang, baka murahin na lang ng mga pasahero ang CebuPacific nyan if ever that happens...

Well, it works on Gateway public CRs...pero I think baka kasama naman sa binabayaran ang pag-CR....

My sentiments exactly!


But anyway, a question:
I was wondering why is it that there are some destinations that are much cheaper as compared to the other in CebuPacific despite the similarity in terms of distance?

For example: P288 for Cebu & Iloilo while its P588 for Bacolod or Kalibo?


I think it has something to do with volume of passengers, two cities with the same distance but one of the cities has lesser traffic than the other. That's just how I see it, I could be wrong ...

Man....you're pouring on the nostalgia real thick there. :lol: But seriously, I'm really, really, really sad about NW ceasing operations and being a separate entity in the aviation industry. :cry: NW will always be remembered fondly by Fil-Ams since most of us rode their planes back and forth between the US and the Philippines. :colgate:

I am so lucky that I still got the chance to ride NW on my to Detroit last 2006. I also took NW from Detroit to NYC then from NYC back to Manila. Goodbye Northwest... :(

While I have also flown PAL, Cebu Pacific, Asian Spirit, Air Ads, US Airways, United Airlines, Olympic Airlines, Thai Airways and Continental Airlines, Northwest is still my favorite airline. My family just loves the airline, and having served Manila continuously for the last 60 years, hopefully Delta will continue what Northwest has done for so long: connect America to the orient.

For that, here's another "Farewell, Northwest" video (aptly titled "The Sun Will Never Set on Northwest Airlines"):

-iJkoezNeyI

NWA will definitely be missed. This is greatvidtribute to the airline. Though it will be good to see the DL colors in NAIA. NWA's legacy to the industry has been long and strong... sad to see it goodbye but truly in NWA the sun will never set... it will live throughout its employees.

I'll miss NW too. So long NW!

CebuPac to introduce new fee (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/march/03/yehey/business/20090303bus5.html)

DESPITE the removal of its fuel surcharge, Cebu Pacific plans to introduce a new fee on its flights.

The Gokongwei-owned budget carrier has sought the approval of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) for the imposition of a baggage interception fee on its domestic and international routes.

In a filing with the regulator, the airline said the baggage interception fee will cost passengers P500 for both domestic and international flights.

In a telephone interview, Candice Iyog, Cebu Pacific vice president for marketing and products, said the new fee is to address “safety-related issues.”

Iyog said the airline will only impose the baggage interception fee if the passengers intercepted carry more than seven kilograms of hand-carried baggage.

“They are not supposed to carry items that [are] more than the allowable limit,” Iyog said.

Lance Gokongwei, Cebu Pacific president and chief executive earlier said his company is taking out fuel surcharge in response to the reduction in jet fuel prices and to entice people to fly despite the current economic crisis.

The removal of the fuel surcharge will reduce fares by a much as 17 percent and passengers will only have to pay for the fare and government taxes.

For this year, the airline expects to carry nine million passengers, of which 6.8 million are domestic and 2.2 million international.

Last year, the company carried 6.7 million, up by 23 percent from the previous year’s 5.5 million passengers.

In 2009, Gokongwei projected the airline to generate revenues of between P24 billion and P25 billion.

Gokongwei said the company is allotting $60 million to $70 million in capital expenditure this year from last year’s almost $200 million “because this year, we are only adding four ATR 72-500 and we’re leasing only two Airbus A320. The new Airbus will not be reflected [in] our books.”

By this year, Cebu Pacific would have 31 aircraft, of which 10 are Airbus A319, 11 are A320, and 10 are ATR 72-500.
-- Darwin G. Amojelar

^^ That's just another way of saying we're gonna charge you "baggage handling fees" just like the other airlines in the industry.

^^
Hmm... the low cost becomes costlier! First, they charged you for check-in baggage then your hand carry baggage. That is nice. Very nice. Way to go Cebu Pacific.:ohno:

^^ is it profitable to establish another mainline carrier? i'm just sick of LCCs, IMO...

i just miss Grandair...even though i never get to ride one...

^^ It's not really a matter of profitability, competition is always good. But they'd have to contend with the near strangle-hold monopoly of the Big Bird of Philippine commercial aviation and its protectionist policies. ;)

^^
I will agree to that. Grandair failed because they lack the financial muscle to keep their ends meet. Cebu Pacific managed to stay afloat because it jump overseas. Thats why Zest and Seair is doing a very good charter and leisure business because it guarantees money for them. 5J has done that too on their B757. Now 5J is way to big for PAL to kill because it grew when its arms and legs were tied. That could have been the opportune time to expand but I guess other airline owners content themselves with domestic operation. If you do that you will eventually die.

-iJkoezNeyI

Just watched this. I find the ending clever as it showed Delta's livery meaning NW's spirit lives on through Delta.

Cebu Pacific beefs up Cebu hub operations anew
Re-opens Siargao airport

Low-fare airline Cebu Pacific (CEB) will start flying directly from Cebu to Siargao on March 4, providing travelers from the Visayas and Mindanao regions easy access to internationally-renowned surfing sites.

The airline will re-open Siargao airport with a thrice weekly service: Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, sparing travelers to the surfing destination a three-hour bus ride and ferry from Surigao City, Surigao del Norte. CEB is the only airline flying this route.

Last March 3, CEB also started a thrice weekly direct service between Cebu and Dumaguete, every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

The lowest available year-round ‘Go Lite’ fare for Cebu-Siargao and Cebu-Dumaguete starts from P1,188 and P688, respectively.

Candice Iyog, CEB VP for marketing and distribution, said, “The country has so many world-class natural attractions. Cebu Pacific strives to provide ample and convenient access to these sites in order to encourage tourist arrivals and economic development in these destinations.”

CEB will further intensify its Cebu hub operations by expanding its Cebu-Ozamiz service from four times weekly to a daily service. The airline will also increase its Cebu-Cagayan de Oro service from 28 times weekly to 36 times weekly, with the help of an additional Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday evening service.

The airline is also offering a Manila-Siargao connection via Cebu. The lowest available ‘Go Lite’ through fare for this route starts from P2,188.

CEB continues to be the largest airline operating from Mactan Cebu International Airport. From Cebu, it flies to 19 domestic destinations and four international cities.

Now on its 13th year, CEB continues to have the youngest aircraft fleet in the Philippines, comprised of 11 Airbus A320, 10 Airbus A319, and seven ATR 72-500.

http://invhictus.googlepages.com/ATR_72.jpg

-from surigaotoday.blogspot.com (http://surigaotoday.blogspot.com)

2008 Top 100 Airlines of the World

PR and 5J joins the top 100 world airlines with most number of flights

Top 100 Airlines by Number of Flights for 2008
Ranking Airline Code Airline Name Frequency
1 DL DELTA AIR LINES 25,448
2 AA AMERICAN AIRLINES 24,450
3 UA UNITED AIRLINES 22,807
4 US US AIRWAYS 22,766
5 WN SOUTHWEST AIRLINES 22,213
6 CO CONTINENTAL AIRLINES 17,749
7 NW NORTHWEST AIRLINES 16,671
8 LH LUFTHANSA GERMAN AIRLINES 12,785
9 AF AIR FRANCE 10,828
10 AC AIR CANADA 10,119
11 CZ CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES 9,034
12 MU CHINA EASTERN AIRLINES 7,786
13 FR RYANAIR 7,420
14 NH ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS 6,832
15 JJ TAM LINHAS AEREAS 6,513
16 IB IBERIA 6,372
17 CA AIR CHINA 6,141
18 BA BRITISH AIRWAYS 5,895
19 AS ALASKA AIRLINES 5,646
20 SK SAS SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES 5,511
21 U2 EASYJET 5,318
22 G3 VARIG 5,243
23 JL JAPAN AIRLINES INTERNATIONAL 5,192
24 QF QANTAS AIRWAYS 4,907
25 FL AIRTRAN AIRWAYS 4,805
26 B6 JETBLUE AIRWAYS CORPORATION 4,317
27 NZ AIR NEW ZEALAND 4,181
28 KL KLM-ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES 3,884
29 TK TURKISH AIRLINES 3,479
30 AB AIR BERLIN 3,418
31 AM AEROMEXICO 3,361
32 BE FLYBE 2,984
33 DJ VIRGIN BLUE 2,962
34 IT KINGFISHER AIRLINES 2,930
35 AZ NEW ALITALIA 2,743
36 SA SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS 2,673
37 MH MALAYSIA AIRLINES 2,647
38 OS AUSTRIAN AIRLINES AG 2,637
39 MX MEXICANA DE AVIACION 2,633
40 LX SWISS 2,608
41 SV SAUDI ARABIAN AIRLINES 2,586
42 9W JET AIRWAYS INDIA 2,572
43 WS WESTJET 2,560
44 KE KOREAN AIR 2,542
45 ZH SHENZHEN AIRLINES 2,528
46 HU HAINAN AIRLINES 2,429
47 AV AVIANCA 2,286
48 F9 FRONTIER AIRLINES INC. 2,235
49 IC INDIAN AIRLINES 2,197
50 EK EMIRATES 2,135
51 WF WIDEROE'S FLYVESELSKAP 2,030
52 LA LAN AIRLINES 2,012
53 AK AIRASIA 1,970
54 ZK GREAT LAKES AIRLINES 1,947
55 TP TAP AIR PORTUGAL 1,866
56 2F FRONTIER FLYING SERVICE 1,817
57 MF XIAMEN AIRLINES COMPANY 1,814
58 OZ ASIANA AIRLINES 1,813
59 AY FINNAIR 1,799
60 GA GARUDA INDONESIA 1,783
61 9K CAPE AIR 1,750
62 TG THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL 1,736
63 FM SHANGHAI AIRLINES 1,694
64 CM COPA AIRLINES 1,650
65 BD BMI BRITISH MIDLAND 1,573
66 AP AIR ONE 1,561
67 PR PHILIPPINE AIRLINES 1,561
68 DY NORWEGIAN AIR SHUTTLE 1,547
69 SU AEROFLOT RUSSIAN AIRLINES 1,541
70 3U SICHUAN AIRLINES 1,516
71 OA OLYMPIC AIRLINES 1,515
72 MS EGYPTAIR 1,497
73 5J CEBU PACIFIC AIR 1,478
74 CX CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 1,471
75 LO LOT - POLISH AIRLINES 1,464
76 HA HAWAIIAN AIRLINES 1,428
77 OK CZECH AIRLINES 1,427
78 SQ SINGAPORE AIRLINES 1,408
79 SN BRUSSELS AIRLINES 1,397
80 QR QATAR AIRWAYS 1,380
81 JK SPANAIR 1,349
82 YX MIDWEST AIRLINES 1,332
83 SC SHANDONG AIRLINES 1,330
84 VN VIETNAM AIRLINES 1,325
85 EI AER LINGUS 1,322
86 JT LION AIR 1,313
87 JQ JETSTAR AIRWAYS 1,299
88 ZL REGIONAL EXPRESS 1,218
89 NT BINTER CANARIAS 1,112
90 AR AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS 1,103
91 NK SPIRIT AIRLINES 1,077
92 GS GRAND CHINA EXPRESS 1,074
93 A3 AEGEAN AIRLINES 1,023
94 4C AIRES 1,020
95 4U GERMANWINGS 996
96 AT ROYAL AIR MAROC 975
97 PK PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES 974
98 UX AIR EUROPA 974
99 X3 TUIFLY 961
100 JV BEARSKIN AIRLINES 950

Alternate Boracay airport to begin construction in April
JUN ARIOLO N. AGUIRRE, GMANews.TV
03/03/2009 | 08:57 PM

BORACAY ISLAND, Philippines - An airport that will serve as an alternate route for Boracay-bound tourists will start construction in April, a local government executive told reporters on Tuesday.

Estimated to reach P5 billion, the airport at Carabao Island will not only serve tourists bound for Boracay, it will also attract visitors to the island itself, San Jose Mayor Filipino Tandog said.

The airport will be built and managed by the Boracay International Airport and Development Corp., a privately-held company. The company’s incorporation has already been approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

Carabao Island, which is under the jurisdiction of San Jose, Romblon also boasts of its white sand. The area expects a spill over of tourists from Boracay, which is only 30 kilometers away.

A consortium of Korean and Japanese investors has already expressed interest to finance other components of the project in accordance with the provincial tourism masterplan, Tandog said.

“The project has already been endorsed by the Regional Development Council of the MiMAROPA (Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon, Palawan) region," Tandog said.

He made this announcement during a meeting he attended with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo who held a cabinet meeting at the tourist island this week. - GMANews.TV

2008 Top 100 Airlines of the World

PR and 5J joins the top 100 world airlines with most number of flights

Top 100 Airlines by Number of Flights for 2008
Ranking Airline Code Airline Name Frequency
1 DL DELTA AIR LINES 25,448
2 AA AMERICAN AIRLINES 24,450
3 UA UNITED AIRLINES 22,807
4 US US AIRWAYS 22,766
5 WN SOUTHWEST AIRLINES 22,213
6 CO CONTINENTAL AIRLINES 17,749
7 NW NORTHWEST AIRLINES 16,671
8 LH LUFTHANSA GERMAN AIRLINES 12,785
9 AF AIR FRANCE 10,828
10 AC AIR CANADA 10,119
11 CZ CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES 9,034
12 MU CHINA EASTERN AIRLINES 7,786
13 FR RYANAIR 7,420
14 NH ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS 6,832
15 JJ TAM LINHAS AEREAS 6,513
16 IB IBERIA 6,372
17 CA AIR CHINA 6,141
18 BA BRITISH AIRWAYS 5,895
19 AS ALASKA AIRLINES 5,646
20 SK SAS SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES 5,511
21 U2 EASYJET 5,318
22 G3 VARIG 5,243
23 JL JAPAN AIRLINES INTERNATIONAL 5,192
24 QF QANTAS AIRWAYS 4,907
25 FL AIRTRAN AIRWAYS 4,805
26 B6 JETBLUE AIRWAYS CORPORATION 4,317
27 NZ AIR NEW ZEALAND 4,181
28 KL KLM-ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES 3,884
29 TK TURKISH AIRLINES 3,479
30 AB AIR BERLIN 3,418
31 AM AEROMEXICO 3,361
32 BE FLYBE 2,984
33 DJ VIRGIN BLUE 2,962
34 IT KINGFISHER AIRLINES 2,930
35 AZ NEW ALITALIA 2,743
36 SA SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS 2,673
37 MH MALAYSIA AIRLINES 2,647
38 OS AUSTRIAN AIRLINES AG 2,637
39 MX MEXICANA DE AVIACION 2,633
40 LX SWISS 2,608
41 SV SAUDI ARABIAN AIRLINES 2,586
42 9W JET AIRWAYS INDIA 2,572
43 WS WESTJET 2,560
44 KE KOREAN AIR 2,542
45 ZH SHENZHEN AIRLINES 2,528
46 HU HAINAN AIRLINES 2,429
47 AV AVIANCA 2,286
48 F9 FRONTIER AIRLINES INC. 2,235
49 IC INDIAN AIRLINES 2,197
50 EK EMIRATES 2,135
51 WF WIDEROE'S FLYVESELSKAP 2,030
52 LA LAN AIRLINES 2,012
53 AK AIRASIA 1,970
54 ZK GREAT LAKES AIRLINES 1,947
55 TP TAP AIR PORTUGAL 1,866
56 2F FRONTIER FLYING SERVICE 1,817
57 MF XIAMEN AIRLINES COMPANY 1,814
58 OZ ASIANA AIRLINES 1,813
59 AY FINNAIR 1,799
60 GA GARUDA INDONESIA 1,783
61 9K CAPE AIR 1,750
62 TG THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL 1,736
63 FM SHANGHAI AIRLINES 1,694
64 CM COPA AIRLINES 1,650
65 BD BMI BRITISH MIDLAND 1,573
66 AP AIR ONE 1,561
67 PR PHILIPPINE AIRLINES 1,561
68 DY NORWEGIAN AIR SHUTTLE 1,547
69 SU AEROFLOT RUSSIAN AIRLINES 1,541
70 3U SICHUAN AIRLINES 1,516
71 OA OLYMPIC AIRLINES 1,515
72 MS EGYPTAIR 1,497
73 5J CEBU PACIFIC AIR 1,478
74 CX CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS 1,471
75 LO LOT - POLISH AIRLINES 1,464
76 HA HAWAIIAN AIRLINES 1,428
77 OK CZECH AIRLINES 1,427
78 SQ SINGAPORE AIRLINES 1,408
79 SN BRUSSELS AIRLINES 1,397
80 QR QATAR AIRWAYS 1,380
81 JK SPANAIR 1,349
82 YX MIDWEST AIRLINES 1,332
83 SC SHANDONG AIRLINES 1,330
84 VN VIETNAM AIRLINES 1,325
85 EI AER LINGUS 1,322
86 JT LION AIR 1,313
87 JQ JETSTAR AIRWAYS 1,299
88 ZL REGIONAL EXPRESS 1,218
89 NT BINTER CANARIAS 1,112
90 AR AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS 1,103
91 NK SPIRIT AIRLINES 1,077
92 GS GRAND CHINA EXPRESS 1,074
93 A3 AEGEAN AIRLINES 1,023
94 4C AIRES 1,020
95 4U GERMANWINGS 996
96 AT ROYAL AIR MAROC 975
97 PK PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES 974
98 UX AIR EUROPA 974
99 X3 TUIFLY 961
100 JV BEARSKIN AIRLINES 950

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Alternate Boracay airport to begin construction in April (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/151226/Alternate-Boracay-airport-to-begin-construction-in-April)
JUN ARIOLO N. AGUIRRE, GMANews.TV
03/03/2009 | 08:57 PM

BORACAY ISLAND, Philippines - An airport that will serve as an alternate route for Boracay-bound tourists will start construction in April, a local government executive told reporters on Tuesday.

Estimated to reach P5 billion, the airport at Carabao Island will not only serve tourists bound for Boracay, it will also attract visitors to the island itself, San Jose Mayor Filipino Tandog said.

The airport will be built and managed by the Boracay International Airport and Development Corp., a privately-held company. The company’s incorporation has already been approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

Carabao Island, which is under the jurisdiction of San Jose, Romblon also boasts of its white sand. The area expects a spill over of tourists from Boracay, which is only 30 kilometers away.

A consortium of Korean and Japanese investors has already expressed interest to finance other components of the project in accordance with the provincial tourism masterplan, Tandog said.

“The project has already been endorsed by the Regional Development Council of the MiMAROPA (Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon, Palawan) region," Tandog said.

He made this announcement during a meeting he attended with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo who held a cabinet meeting at the tourist island this week. - GMANews.TV

CebuPac to introduce new fee (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/march/03/yehey/business/20090303bus5.html)

DESPITE the removal of its fuel surcharge, Cebu Pacific plans to introduce a new fee on its flights.

The Gokongwei-owned budget carrier has sought the approval of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) for the imposition of a baggage interception fee on its domestic and international routes.

In a filing with the regulator, the airline said the baggage interception fee will cost passengers P500 for both domestic and international flights.

In a telephone interview, Candice Iyog, Cebu Pacific vice president for marketing and products, said the new fee is to address “safety-related issues.”

Iyog said the airline will only impose the baggage interception fee if the passengers intercepted carry more than seven kilograms of hand-carried baggage.


Before we know it they might start charging passengers who are fat & overweight