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in_a_rush

March 31st, 2009, 02:49 PM

i thought they are building an airport in Carabao Island too to service Boracay guests?. they are planning to over saturate boracay ata..

Two international airports to service Boracay

Boracay tourism will further flourish with completion of Kalibo and Caticlan international airports, says PGMA
MONDAY, MARCH 30, 2009 | TOURISM
http://www.gov.ph/news/?i=24029

BORACAY ISLAND, Aklan (PND) – President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo said here today that the tourism industry in the Philippines would further flourish with the completion of two vital infrastructure projects in this province – the soon-to-be-completed Kalibo International Airport (KIA) and the soon-to-be-constructed Caticlan International Airport (CIA).

In a one-on-one interview with Gus Tolentino, Kapisanan ng mga Broadkaster (KBP) regional president and station manager of DYRG-AM at the Shangri-la Resort here this morning, President Arroyo said these two airports, once completed, would provide the necessary support needed to further strengthen Boracay Island and the rest of Aklan province as the country’s premiere tourist destination. Both airports would provide tourists and locals alike a more convenient and closer venue to enter and exit Boracay Island.

For the KIA, President Arroyo said upgrades, such as the installation of Instrument Landing Systems (ILS) on the runway and in the control tower, have allowed local and international flights to land at KIA even at night.

She added that the KIA passenger terminal, which is currently undergoing expansion procedures with the construction of a new passenger terminal building, will provide incoming and departing passengers a more comfortable travel experience with its state-of-the-art facilities not to mention easier access to their luggage.

“So, yang Kalibo (International) Airport, matatapos yan sa November (2009) (and with its ILS working to capacity), international flights can now take off and land at night,” the President said.

For CIA, on the other hand, President Arroyo expressed confidence that construction and upgrading procedures would commence immediately since four local and international developers have individually expressed their intent to develop the airport.

“Yang sa Caticlan (International Airport) naman, tiyak na yan kasi may apat o limang bidders na. Pipiliin na lang kung sino,” the President said.

The existing Caticlan airport, officially named Godofredo P. Ramos Airport after the late congressman from Malay town in Aklan, is classified as a feeder airport, one of the two gateways to the world-famous Boracay.

Despite its status, Caticlan is the third busiest airport in the Philippines, with the fifth highest number of passengers and the second highest number of aircraft movement, according to aviation authorities.

pthfndr19

March 31st, 2009, 03:22 PM

^^ Ang dami ng Airport sa Panay Island ah.. magiging 3 International Airport na..

boom_box

March 31st, 2009, 04:15 PM

grabe.. ang dami naman ng airport sa Panay Island... RPVI, RPVK, RPVE, then Carabao Island next.. :)

pthfndr19

March 31st, 2009, 04:42 PM

^^ Paano yan kung matapos na ang Caticlan International Airport... Baka mabalewala ang Kalibo nyan... dahil syempre mas malayo sya sa Boracay.
yung lang nman ang pinupuntahan ng mga turista... mas dadami ang air traffic sa Caticlan..

Sky Harbor

March 31st, 2009, 04:50 PM

^^ There are two competing airport proposals for Boracay: either expand the current airport in Caticlan, or build a completely new airport on Carabao Island. If Romblon pushes with the latter, the airport in Tablas will be rendered obsolete as well. Which one is it?

romantic_guy08

March 31st, 2009, 07:25 PM

Still related pa rin..

Humility in high places
PEOPLE By Joanne Rae M. Ramirez / Philippine Star
Updated March 31, 2009 12:00 AM

Some men never let success go to their heads. Perhaps, that is why they are more successful than others.

On my return flight from Los Angeles to Manila, I was seated in the Mabuhay Class section beside businessman J. Castro of the Kylemed Group of Companies, a pharmaceuticals group. He has offices in both California and Metro Manila, so he shuttles between both places regularly.

California-based, he likes to take Philippine Airlines primarily because of the direct 12-hour flights from Manila to LAX, and back (though there are some flights to Manila that have to make a technical stop in Guam). He also likes arriving in Manila at the crack of dawn, refreshed after a good night’s sleep (the flight leaves LAX at midnight), and ready for a power breakfast meeting in Manila.

But now, he has another good reason for taking PAL.

Last November, he and his wife were traveling to Los Angeles from Manila on PR 102 and were seated on Row 4 of the newly-reconfigured Business Class section of the Boeing 747-400 that was assigned to their route.

After they were settled in their seats and just before take-off, they decided to try out the features of the high-tech seats of the reconfigured Boeing.

Alas, Castro’s seat wouldn’t recline. His wife’s seat also wouldn’t recline!

The flight attendants tried to help out, but it seemed these high-tech seats were not programmed to respond to manual manipulations. They were stuck. The plane was ready to take off and the Castros were faced with the prospect of an uncomfortable flight ahead.

The Castros politely but firmly told the flight purser that they wanted to be reseated.

The purser checked out the seating list but told the couple there were no other available seats that night. The Castros then told the purser that rather than endure a 12-hour flight sitting up straight for the price of a Business Class ticket, they would rather just disembark.

The plane doors were already shut, but the Castros were adamant. I can imagine the purser’s dilemma, because when a passenger disembarks, his luggage has to be offloaded, too, and this could easily cause a delay of one hour. Stuck in an aircraft on the tarmac, the rest of the passengers were going to be more than irate.

The purser had to think fast. He then asked Mrs. Castro if she was willing to take the one empty seat on Row 1, probably one of the best two seats on the house. The seat beside it was occupied.

“No, I want to be seated beside my husband, or we both disembark,” she said, not willing to leave her husband on the immovable Row 4 seat.

The purser was left with one last choice. He then approached the passenger on Seat 1C and respectfully whispered something to him. The passenger on Seat 1C then stood up and walked to the Castros with a very apologetic look on his face.

The purser then told the Castros, “Mr. Lucio Tan will give up his seat for you.”

* * *

By this time the Castros had recognized the PAL chairman. They were stunned by his gesture, and by the expression on his face, which seemed to be more apologetic than annoyed. But since Mrs. Castro was not feeling well and could not really go 12 hours without reclining, they accepted the offer to exchange seats with the man who owned the airline.

Castro told me that each time he went to the toilet he would steal a glance at Tan, who was seating upright during the entire flight, sometimes with his eyes closed. Sometimes he would be scribbling on lined yellow paper. He didn’t use a laptop.

Sources in PAL say Tan gave up his seat because he didn’t want the flight to be delayed. It is said that he abhors delayed flights.

Thus, instead of inconveniencing all 400 passengers on the flight, he opted to inconvenience himself.

Granted that his decision was also a sound business decision — the airline would have lost money and a lot of goodwill with the delay — what was amazing was that he himself was willing to bear the cost (and I’m not just talking about a stiff neck) of his decision.

Tan is among the five richest men in the Philippines.

And the Castros remain among PAL’s many loyal customers.

* * *

Friends of Lucio Tan say that before becoming chairman of PAL, the taipan would fly Economy. The executives of his conglomerate would be on Business Class, and would be stupefied to see Tan on Coach. When his red-faced subordinates tried to convince him to move up to Business Class, Tan reportedly told them, “When we land, we will land in the same place.”

When I related the Castros’ story to Tan’s daughter Gigi Tan Yu, she was not surprised at all. “My father is really like that. He really has a heart that wants to serve. Imagine, he is 74 years old and he usually uses the time spent on long flights to rest. But he was willing to forego that and sacrifice his comfort for a PAL passenger.”

(Castro told me that he has encountered PAL executives who would not give up or exchange seats with a passenger).

Gigi also believes that her father “doesn’t want to erase or mask his humble beginnings. He is not averse to self-sacrifice.”

* * *

Nowadays, you hardly hear people complain that PAL is perennially late (remember when people used to joke that PAL stood for three words other than Philippine Airlines?).

Now, we know one reason why. Its chairman would rather seat upright for 12 hours straight than make one flight late.

I was seated beside Castro by chance and just got to know him on the last two hours of our flight back to Manila. But with his permission, I am sharing his story because it shows that humility still exists in high places — literally and figuratively

boom_box

March 31st, 2009, 07:47 PM

^^ nice story... napaka down-to-earth pala ni Lucio Tan.. :)

brownislander

April 1st, 2009, 12:00 AM

Nakaka-touch hehe

NightDog

April 1st, 2009, 04:15 AM

mwg12a

April 1st, 2009, 04:47 AM

I think alot of business owners would do that for their clients, somehow it is still something noble for them to do, they know it will harm their business if the business owner would not bend over backwards for their customer provided that it's really credible and genuine.

flesh_is_weak

April 1st, 2009, 10:38 PM

mwg12a

April 2nd, 2009, 02:58 AM

Its possible but it won't be cheaper for sure. Just tell your travel agent.

jvl

April 2nd, 2009, 08:49 AM

bcanieso

April 2nd, 2009, 09:53 AM

^^Normally airlines work by sectors which determines the cost of each flight, so the more sectors the more you have in terms of cost in fare, in this case its better to fly direct if one is available, on other cases there are budget fares depending on the route being serviced. :)

pthfndr19

April 2nd, 2009, 12:21 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3190748559_264aceb10e.jpg?v=0
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/IMG_0001.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/20kpr0x.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/aoxmzd.jpg

Citruseae

April 2nd, 2009, 02:46 PM

guys, ask ko lang, is it possible to book a trip with a 1 week stop-over in between the point of departure and my destination? and if yes, would that be cheaper or more expensive than a 'normal' trip?

It's not a STOP-OVER. kasi stop-over means 1hr to 2 or 3hrs lang in US if domestic. Then 4 or more pag international, it still depends though. case to case basis. In ur case, it is called Multi-destination which i think u'll be paying more or the same air fare for normal flight.

Rodel

April 2nd, 2009, 04:14 PM

cebu pacific at NAIA-T3

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/req2000/Airlines/100_2309.jpg

mwg12a

April 2nd, 2009, 04:58 PM

It's not a STOP-OVER. kasi stop-over means 1hr to 2 or 3hrs lang in US if domestic. Then 4 or more pag international, it still depends though. case to case basis. In ur case, it is called Multi-destination which i think u'll be paying more or the same air fare for normal flight.

Technically, a stop or layover would be 2 to 4 hours before reaching your final destination especially if it's an international travel but there are cases also that your stop over may take more than 4 hours to an over night stay, such as my case at one time with Singapore airlines where i was flew in Singapore to depart the following day bound for the US mainland, but, that's just one of those rare instances.

With flesh is weak's case, it sound more of a multiple destination where he would stay in the same city he would be departing from to his original and final destination especially if he is going to stay more than a day in that same city. He should know these because whenever he first flew to Canada, he stayed in Korea for a day. My sister flew to the Philippines and stopped in Tokyo for a couple of days before proceeding to Manila. I believe the difference in airfare would be atleast $100.00 or a little less on top of the two-way original airfare price, but these was a few years back.

In this case, flesh is weak, should know if there are alot of available seats or flights to his original destination from that point he would be having a lay over from because if there are lesser flights to that destination, surely he would have to pay more than just $50.00 difference in usual case.

brownislander

April 2nd, 2009, 05:00 PM

I noticed that old airports have the same design.
Similar to this one...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3190748559_264aceb10e.jpg?v=0

pthfndr19

April 2nd, 2009, 08:50 PM

I noticed that also, that Calbayog City Airport is just similar to Catarman Airport in Northern Samar...its just small but both have daily flights by PAL Express, Cebu Pacific and Zest Air. And I think these airports needs upgrade now.

Dumaguete's airport looks like this also..:)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/Catarman_Airport.jpg

WawaY[625]

April 2nd, 2009, 09:05 PM

repost from DIA thread

Silk Air posts 100% capacity in 1st quarter
By Carlo P. Mallo

EVEN with a worsening global financial crisis affecting all economies, Silk Air, the regional wing of Singapore Airlines, continues to soar high here in Davao City.

As other airlines that cater to the Davao-Singapore route suspended operations or only operated during the peak season, Silk Air still services the Davao-Singapore route four times a week.

In an interview, Ajish Henry Morris, country manager for Silk Air Philippines, told Sun.Star that their flights for the first three months to and from Singapore and Davao City have almost been fully booked.

Morris was in the city Tuesday to celebrate the 20th year anniversary of Silk Air. This year also marks the 12th year of Silk Air here in Davao City.

"We haven't felt the crisis, our flights in 2008 have an average of 92 percent load factor," Morris said.

The Silk Air country manager added that one asset of their company is its vast network of over 91 destinations all over the world.

Unlike budget airlines, which land at the budget airport in Singapore, Silk Air lands at the Terminal 2 of Changi(sic) Airport in Singapore.

"We connect Davao to the world with our wide range of connectivity," Morris said.

:banana:

flesh_is_weak

April 2nd, 2009, 09:44 PM

benchjade

April 3rd, 2009, 12:21 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3190748559_264aceb10e.jpg?v=0
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/IMG_0001.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/20kpr0x.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/aoxmzd.jpg

im sorry but saan ang calbayog?

kiretoce

April 3rd, 2009, 12:27 PM

^^ In Samar.

thescene

April 4th, 2009, 03:32 AM

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a_XvKYZpVkIc

Airbus May Fail to Meet Its Goal for A380 Deliveries (Update2)

By Andrea Rothman and Anuchit Nguyen

April 3 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS, the world’s largest manufacturer of commercial aircraft, may fail to meet a target of delivering 18 A380 superjumbos this year, according to a survey of the plane’s customers.

Airbus, a unit of European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., may hand over only 15 of the double-decker passenger planes this year, Bloomberg News found by polling the 15 carriers and one leasing firm that have committed to the aircraft.

Missing three A380 deliveries would mean almost $1 billion in lost revenue this year, at list prices. Production of the plane, which has 525 seats, or about 250 more than Boeing Co.’s newest model, the 787 Dreamliner, has been running two years late because of wiring difficulties. EADS is also struggling with delays on the A400M military transport, and has taken 1.74 billion euros ($2.3 billion) in charges.

“Our objective, as we said in January, is to deliver 18 airplanes,” Airbus spokeswoman Susie Crowley said in a telephone interview, declining to comment on specific customers. “We can’t really comment on future delivery planning by customer. This is really their privilege to talk about what they are taking.”

EADS rose 12 cents, or 1.3 percent, to 9.57 euros in Paris trading. The stock has declined 20 percent this year, reducing the company’s market value to 7.8 billion euros.

Qantas, Emirates

Singapore Airlines Ltd. and Qantas Airways Ltd. say they will take four A380s each this year, while Air France-KLM Group expects two. Emirates plans to get seven A380s in the fiscal year ending March 31, 2010, equating to five deliveries in the calendar year. That would yield a total of 15 of the planes, which have a list price of $327 million.

Airlines including Air France and Kingfisher Airlines Ltd. of India have deferred A380 deliveries as travel growth slows because of the global recession. Emirates, which operates four of the planes, says it may delay some of the 54 still on order.

The super-sized plane offers economies of scale that Airbus says can help in tough times as slumping demand leads airlines to drop flights between secondary cities and focus on flying to larger hubs, with smaller craft fanning out to minor locations. The allure weakens if a severe travel slump means an airline is flying a larger plane more empty.

Delivery Goal

Airliner orders are generally holding up, planemakers say, because carriers want more fuel-efficient models. Airbus has predicted 483 deliveries this year, the same as for last year.

Even so, Toulouse, France-based Airbus anticipates that deliveries may drop as much as 15 percent next year in a worse- case scenario before picking up in 2011. Chicago-based Boeing has predicted increased deliveries this year even as it studies reducing output.

Airbus set a goal of 12 A380 handovers in 2008 and achieved it. Besides the four airline customers for the A380 that are expecting the plane this year, other companies in line say they are counting on getting the aircraft in subsequent years.

Deutsche Lufthansa AG has no deliveries set for this year after planning to take a first A380 in December. Its initial order was pushed back by Airbus to 2010. “We don’t know the reason why,” said Jan Baerwalde, a spokesman for the Cologne, Germany-based carrier.

Airbus has struggled to get to a second stage of output in which planes are built in a more automated “serial production” fashion, rather than cabling them individually to avoid earlier errors, Chief Executive Officer Tom Enders said in January.

One difficulty this year is that Airbus will be producing an initial A380 for Air France. Building a plane for a new client entails customization that can lead to teething problems.

Thai Delay

Thai Airways International PCL was told late last year by Airbus that the delivery of its first A380 will be delayed to 2011 from 2010.

“Airbus claimed that they have a problem with its logistics,” Raj Tanta-Nanta, the carrier’s vice president for investor relations, said in a phone interview. “This is the second delay. The exact month of delivery will have to be worked out again.”

International Lease Finance Corp., the U.S. lessor that’s the largest Airbus and Boeing customer, also doesn’t expect A380s this year.

Earlier last year, Airbus predicted it would provide 21 A380s to customers in 2009. The company trimmed the figure in December to 18.

At the same time, the superjumbos in service with Emirates, the largest customer for the plane, have had technical problems.

An Emirates delegation cited a series of defects with the plane when it visited Airbus in Toulouse, Der Spiegel reported March 14. The magazine said that Emirates, in a 46-page presentation after the visit, said breakdowns had grounded the airline’s A380s for 500 hours. Emirates and Airbus have confirmed there have been problems and Airbus says it’s working “intensively” on solutions.

thescene

April 4th, 2009, 03:37 AM

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Finance/2009/03/16/Emirates_still_believes_in_Airbus_A380_312312.html

Emirates 'still believes' in Airbus A380

Emirates, the biggest customer for Airbus' A380 'superjumbo,' says it still has confidence in the jetliner.

The Middle East's largest carrier also said it is in talks with the European plane maker about the timing of deliveries for future A380s, but insists it has financing in place for all aircraft purchases until next summer.

Dubai-based Emirates, one of just three airlines currently operating the A380, said it recently met with Airbus executives 'to give them feedback on the A380's reliability performance, including various technical issues which we had identified during our operations.'

The airline declined to provide a copy of a document shared with Airbus detailing concerns about the plane. It said it has a 'good relationship' with Airbus and is working closely with the plane manufacturer.

'Technical issues are expected with new aircraft - particularly one that uses many new technologies. Naturally, as the airline operator, we want these to be resolved as soon as possible,' the company said.

The carrier was responding to questions about a report in the forthcoming edition of German magazine Der Spiegel that said Emirates took a 46-page set of slides to what the publication called a 'crisis meeting' between the two companies outlining maintenance problems with the aircraft.

The airline, which has received four of the 58 A380s it has on order, is also talking with Toulouse, France-based Airbus about when it will receive additional A380s.

A representative for the airline said the carrier is standing by an announcement last month that it will add seven A380s to its fleet in the coming fiscal year, which begins April 1. The timing for orders beyond that is uncertain.

The representative, who spoke on condition of anonymity in line with company policy, said concerns about the A380 and the delivery review are 'not linked.'

Questions about Emirates' ability to fund its aggressive growth plans have grown louder in recent months because of tighter credit markets and a drop in global air travel. Concerns about the emirate of Dubai's large debt load have also dogged the government-owned airline.

The carrier declined to make officials available to comment about its financial health Sunday, saying it was too close to the end of the fiscal year, which ends this month.

Emirates did say, however, that its 'financial fundamentals are solid' and that it has 'financial commitments in place for all our aircraft deliveries until summer 2010'

'The next year is not going to be an easy ride for the airline industry and 'consolidation' is a word we will hear used quite a lot. Emirates has prepared the best we can for the challenges we foresee,' the airline said in an e-mailed statement.

'We are closely reviewing our fleet and network operations, and are concentrating on strengthening our presence on routes where there is a greater demand from our customers,' the company added.

Emirates said last month it expects to boost the number of flights it offers overall by 14 percent this year. It recently announced plans to reduce service to China.

Hania Tabet, a spokeswoman for Airbus in Dubai, declined to comment on the status of Emirates' orders but said Airbus remains committed to delivering 18 A380s to its customers this year.

'Delivery schedules are agreed with the customer and we respect confidentiality,' she said.

boom_box

April 4th, 2009, 05:14 AM

OT:

why it seems Airbus has problems with Emirates in making their orders of A380...
unlikely with Qantas and Singapore Airlines..

Dreamtofly

April 4th, 2009, 12:29 PM

OT:

why it seems Airbus has problems with Emirates in making their orders of A380...
unlikely with Qantas and Singapore Airlines..

cause Emirates can pay them anymore. Emirates was already bought by etihad airways. That is the rumors.

Dreamtofly

April 4th, 2009, 12:31 PM

pthfndr19

April 4th, 2009, 03:36 PM

^^OK..saang province nga yun? :)

brownislander

April 4th, 2009, 03:48 PM

The Butuan Airport also have this design...Panget!

kiretoce

April 4th, 2009, 08:22 PM

lahat ng regional airport has the same design. kahit sa province ng mama ko ganyan din design.
The Butuan Airport also have this design...Panget!

Regional and provincial airports were constructed around the same time, just as the aviation industry began to take shape in the Philippines. It's cheaper to construct uniform looking terminals for the multiple locations around the country.

flesh_is_weak

April 4th, 2009, 08:36 PM

mukha siyang 'mababang paaralan ng calbayog'

but it doesn't matter...i've been to samar and i think it's one of the best yet most under-stated provinces in the country :)

Ph Man

April 5th, 2009, 08:08 AM

in what ways? please do share. ;) i haven't been there.

brownislander

April 5th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Regional and provincial airports were constructed around the same time, just as the aviation industry began to take shape in the Philippines. It's cheaper to construct uniform looking terminals for the multiple locations around the country.

Well, I hope they will upgrade the designs...

"ZukiChirO"

April 5th, 2009, 04:15 PM

ano to? may bagong Airline Company nanamn daw.

Inter Airlines
Website=>http://www.interekspres.com/

nabasa ko..here are their planned destination.
Manila
Cebu
Clark
Caticlan
Davao
Zamboanga
Jolo
Tawi-tawi
Puerto Princesa
Iloilo
Sabah (Malaysia)
Korror (Palau)
Seoul (S.Korea)

ianers_ianized

April 5th, 2009, 05:21 PM

The story is so beautiful by Ms Ramirez (she's a formeredito-in-chief of PAL's Mabuhay magazine). Humbleness is really something to admire...

Still related pa rin..

Humility in high places
PEOPLE By Joanne Rae M. Ramirez / Philippine Star
Updated March 31, 2009 12:00 AM

Some men never let success go to their heads. Perhaps, that is why they are more successful than others.

On my return flight from Los Angeles to Manila, I was seated in the Mabuhay Class section beside businessman J. Castro of the Kylemed Group of Companies, a pharmaceuticals group. He has offices in both California and Metro Manila, so he shuttles between both places regularly.

California-based, he likes to take Philippine Airlines primarily because of the direct 12-hour flights from Manila to LAX, and back (though there are some flights to Manila that have to make a technical stop in Guam). He also likes arriving in Manila at the crack of dawn, refreshed after a good night’s sleep (the flight leaves LAX at midnight), and ready for a power breakfast meeting in Manila.

But now, he has another good reason for taking PAL.

Last November, he and his wife were traveling to Los Angeles from Manila on PR 102 and were seated on Row 4 of the newly-reconfigured Business Class section of the Boeing 747-400 that was assigned to their route.

After they were settled in their seats and just before take-off, they decided to try out the features of the high-tech seats of the reconfigured Boeing.

Alas, Castro’s seat wouldn’t recline. His wife’s seat also wouldn’t recline!

The flight attendants tried to help out, but it seemed these high-tech seats were not programmed to respond to manual manipulations. They were stuck. The plane was ready to take off and the Castros were faced with the prospect of an uncomfortable flight ahead.

The Castros politely but firmly told the flight purser that they wanted to be reseated.

The purser checked out the seating list but told the couple there were no other available seats that night. The Castros then told the purser that rather than endure a 12-hour flight sitting up straight for the price of a Business Class ticket, they would rather just disembark.

The plane doors were already shut, but the Castros were adamant. I can imagine the purser’s dilemma, because when a passenger disembarks, his luggage has to be offloaded, too, and this could easily cause a delay of one hour. Stuck in an aircraft on the tarmac, the rest of the passengers were going to be more than irate.

The purser had to think fast. He then asked Mrs. Castro if she was willing to take the one empty seat on Row 1, probably one of the best two seats on the house. The seat beside it was occupied.

“No, I want to be seated beside my husband, or we both disembark,” she said, not willing to leave her husband on the immovable Row 4 seat.

The purser was left with one last choice. He then approached the passenger on Seat 1C and respectfully whispered something to him. The passenger on Seat 1C then stood up and walked to the Castros with a very apologetic look on his face.

The purser then told the Castros, “Mr. Lucio Tan will give up his seat for you.”

* * *

By this time the Castros had recognized the PAL chairman. They were stunned by his gesture, and by the expression on his face, which seemed to be more apologetic than annoyed. But since Mrs. Castro was not feeling well and could not really go 12 hours without reclining, they accepted the offer to exchange seats with the man who owned the airline.

Castro told me that each time he went to the toilet he would steal a glance at Tan, who was seating upright during the entire flight, sometimes with his eyes closed. Sometimes he would be scribbling on lined yellow paper. He didn’t use a laptop.

Sources in PAL say Tan gave up his seat because he didn’t want the flight to be delayed. It is said that he abhors delayed flights.

Thus, instead of inconveniencing all 400 passengers on the flight, he opted to inconvenience himself.

Granted that his decision was also a sound business decision — the airline would have lost money and a lot of goodwill with the delay — what was amazing was that he himself was willing to bear the cost (and I’m not just talking about a stiff neck) of his decision.

Tan is among the five richest men in the Philippines.

And the Castros remain among PAL’s many loyal customers.

* * *

Friends of Lucio Tan say that before becoming chairman of PAL, the taipan would fly Economy. The executives of his conglomerate would be on Business Class, and would be stupefied to see Tan on Coach. When his red-faced subordinates tried to convince him to move up to Business Class, Tan reportedly told them, “When we land, we will land in the same place.”

When I related the Castros’ story to Tan’s daughter Gigi Tan Yu, she was not surprised at all. “My father is really like that. He really has a heart that wants to serve. Imagine, he is 74 years old and he usually uses the time spent on long flights to rest. But he was willing to forego that and sacrifice his comfort for a PAL passenger.”

(Castro told me that he has encountered PAL executives who would not give up or exchange seats with a passenger).

Gigi also believes that her father “doesn’t want to erase or mask his humble beginnings. He is not averse to self-sacrifice.”

* * *

Nowadays, you hardly hear people complain that PAL is perennially late (remember when people used to joke that PAL stood for three words other than Philippine Airlines?).

Now, we know one reason why. Its chairman would rather seat upright for 12 hours straight than make one flight late.

I was seated beside Castro by chance and just got to know him on the last two hours of our flight back to Manila. But with his permission, I am sharing his story because it shows that humility still exists in high places — literally and figuratively

brownislander

April 5th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Baka Interisland Airlines...Matagal na yan.
Charter flights yang yata sa kanila.

ano to? may bagong Airline Company nanamn daw.

Inter Airlines
Website=>http://www.interekspres.com/

nabasa ko..here are their planned destination.
Manila
Cebu
Clark
Caticlan
Davao
Zamboanga
Jolo
Tawi-tawi
Puerto Princesa
Iloilo
Sabah (Malaysia)
Korror (Palau)
Seoul (S.Korea)

kiretoce

April 6th, 2009, 05:39 AM

Bandar Seri Begawan-Manila weekly flights to increase (http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/thu/apr2h2.htm)

Flights between Brunei and the Philippines are expected to increase following an agreement that was reached Tuesday.

Currently, there are five flights a week between the two countries under a code-sharing agreement between Royal Brunei Airlines (RBA) and Philippines Airlines (PAL).

BusinessWorld reported yesterday that under the new agreement reached on Tuesday, seven flights a week are now allowed from Manila, two from Cebu, and one from Clark Freeport to the Brunei International Airport in the capital.

The Philippine negotiating panel was led by Trans-portation and Communication Undersecretary Doroteo A Reyes II, as well as representatives from the Department of Foreign Affairs, Department of Trade and Industry, Department of Tourism, CAB, and airport authorities.

RBA is yet to confirm when the additional flights will begin but informed sources said that the schedule is currently being reorganised.

Under BIMP-EAGA, Philippines Pacific Pearl Airways is expected to operate its inaugural chartered flight on April 3 covering the Davao-Brunei-Davao route.

Two other airlines from the Philippines, Cebu Air Pacific and Zest Airways, are also reported to be considering to fly to Brunei.

Cebu Pacific Vice-President for Marketing and Product Candice A Iyog said that they are looking into Brunei as "one of their options in their route network expansion".

Zest Airways meanwhile said that it is still studying whether to fly to Brunei.

The latest agreement follows the recent state visit by His Majesty the Sultan and Yang Di-Pertuan of Brunei to the Philippines.

His Majesty and Philippines President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo have both reaffirmed their desire to further deepen and expand the relations between the two countries.

buknit

April 6th, 2009, 08:25 AM

buknit

April 6th, 2009, 08:27 AM

ozamiz aiport

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_w5zmQN20EOc/SNYnFM-5-fI/AAAAAAAADGA/SpJlQQrUmZU/s1600/philippines%2Bmisamis%2Boccidental%2Bozamiz%2Bcity%2Bairport.jpg

mwg12a

April 6th, 2009, 11:43 AM

I never see any forumers posting pictures of Ilocos Norte's international airport that was created during the Marcos era. Why is that? Is that airport closed already?

Sky Harbor

April 6th, 2009, 11:52 AM

^^ Bernie posted a picture of Laoag International Airport a while back. For one, it's still open! :D

mwg12a

April 6th, 2009, 12:20 PM

I guess there is not much going in in that side of the country then.. they are not getting any upgrade on their airport considering it's already and international airport...

808 state

April 6th, 2009, 01:16 PM

LAOAG INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT - Laoag City, Ilocos Norte

LIA Control Tower
http://i42.tinypic.com/mkdjpz.jpg
from flickr by kinarnedan

http://i39.tinypic.com/15rms93.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2721/facadedx5.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7670/terminal2.jpg

Aditional photos at the airport

Inside the new arrival building
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3233/arrivalbldng2hc1.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3852/arrivalbldngqr7.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8939/inaugurationplacard.jpg

View from the cabroom of the LIA Control Tower
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4766/3airplanes.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6076/cabroom.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2466/chinasoutherntakeoff.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6653/pal1.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2312/viewfromthecabroom.jpg

Sky Harbor

April 6th, 2009, 01:46 PM

I have apparently just answered my own question. Still, I want pictures!

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Commercial airline flights to and from Vigan airport start (http://www.zibb.com/article/5126052/Commercial+airline+flights+to+and+from+Vigan+airport+start)

VIGAN CITY, Mar 23, 2009 (Asia Pulse Data Source via COMTEX)

Regular flights to and from the Vigan Domestic Airport has finally started following the successful inaugural flight on Thursday of a 60-seater commercial plane owned by the Inter-Island Airlines Company.

The inaugural flight arrived here at 5:45 p.m. with 34 passengers on board led by Governor Deogracias Savellano and Congressman Ronald Singson.

They were warmly welcomed by other provincial officials, businessmen, members of the media, students and local residents.

In a talk to newsmen after disembarking from the maiden flight, Savellano described the commercial flight to and from the Vigan Airport as a 'breakthrough' as it will create a lot of opportunities for the province and its people.

"Our province, which is considered as heritage province due to its UNESCO-recognized sites --the Sta. Maria Church and the century?old houses in Vigan City-- has a lot of things to showcase tourists who will soon be coming in," Savellano said.

"With these flights, the province and Vigan City will become more accessible to foreign and domestic tourists and investors who can contribute largely to the improvement of our tourism, trade and industries," he said.

Savellano also said that when more tourists will arrive, the private transport sector and producers of unique local products will greatly benefit.

On the other hand, Congressman Singson appealed to local residents and businessmen to support the operations of commercial flights by utilizing it every time they travel to and from Manila.

Inter-Island Airlines Company, using its 60-seater airplane, will service the Vigan to Manila and vice versa route twice a week.

The plane takes off from the Manila Domestic Airport on it way to Vigan every Thursday and Sunday afternoon, from 4:00 to 5:15 p.m. and the return flight from Vigan to Manila every Friday and Monday morning, from 7:00 to 8:15 a.m.

The air fare for one-way travel per passenger is P3,450.

jvl

April 7th, 2009, 09:07 AM

cause Emirates can pay them anymore. Emirates was already bought by etihad airways. That is the rumors.

Any confirmation about this news?

mwg12a

April 7th, 2009, 09:37 AM

It's okay folks, don't worry about it. I don't know why and how 808 misinterpreted what I asked and said about Loag Airport, I don't see anything there that one would think I was bashing Ilocos Norte. I forgave 808_state already, I was just hoping to see more about the terminal since I guess I missed what Bernie posted awhile back, I also never noticed a separate thread for Loag Airport because I feel Laog International Airport deserves it's own separate thread.

I do love how Laog Airport is designed, it has it's own characteristics that you really won't see in other airports in the world, atleast in my opinion. I really think it's beautiful inspite of the it's size comparing to most international airports and I am sure it's not the only one in the world. Having no jetbridges doesn't seem to turn me off because it draws my attention towards the architecture. I'm sure it's big enough and very functional. With all the good resorts and other places Loag has to offer, I'm sure it can attract more tourist if given more effort to it when promoting the northern tip of Luzon. I've seen you guys show cased your province and I can safely say, I'm very impressed.

808 state

April 7th, 2009, 09:47 AM

to be candid... I didn't say anything derogatory...anyhow, I want to say "sorry" for what I've done mwg... it's just a spontaneous outburst...yah...I misinterpreted it... truce?

808 state

April 7th, 2009, 09:55 AM

I do love how Laog Airport is designed, it has it's own characteristics that you really won't see in other airports in the world, atleast in my opinion. I really think it's beautiful inspite of the it's size comparing to most international airports and I am sure it's not the only one in the world. Having no jetbridges doesn't seem to turn me off because it draws my attention towards the architecture. I'm sure it's big enough and very functional. With all the good resorts and other places Loag has to offer, I'm sure it can attract more tourist if given more effort to it when promoting the northern tip of Luzon. I've seen you guys show cased your province and I can safely say, I'm very impressed.

thanks for the compliment... I love your message:):banana::cheers:

although Ilocos Norte is a sparsely populated province, I'm so happy that it has an airport that accommodates international flights... that's amazing!:banana:

ericlucky290

April 7th, 2009, 04:01 PM

OT: labas muna tayo sa mga airport and tignan kung ano nangyayari sa loob ng airplane while on flight.

Cover girl rages as fella romps on jet

A DRUNKEN model flew into a rage on a jet after catching her boyfriend romping with a woman next to him, it was claimed yesterday. read more (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2362373.ece)

kalbongdad

April 7th, 2009, 05:00 PM

yup medyo ok naman ang terminal building ng laoag dahil tiled ang roof at ok naman design simple at parang malaking bahay na bato....style....pero sa kalinisan medyo kulang... and the people there don't seem to be professional...the sites though are definitely ok...dami mong makikita sa isang lugar and that makes the place attractive to tourists...

abnkat

April 7th, 2009, 08:53 PM

Gulfair is now serving Manila 12x per week. They are using the B777-300ER on this route due to high demand.

pi_malejana

April 7th, 2009, 09:11 PM

may nawawala daw na presidential chopper dyan sa may cordillera..:ohno:

terrapinoy

April 8th, 2009, 03:46 AM

I have apparently just answered my own question. Still, I want pictures!

Commercial airline flights to and from Vigan airport start (http://www.zibb.com/article/5126052/Commercial+airline+flights+to+and+from+Vigan+airport+start)

VIGAN CITY, Mar 23, 2009 (Asia Pulse Data Source via COMTEX)

Regular flights to and from the Vigan Domestic Airport has finally started following the successful inaugural flight on Thursday of a 60-seater commercial plane owned by the Inter-Island Airlines Company.

According to a.net, Interisland is using a vintage YS-11 for this route. Photo Link @ Jetphotos.net (http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6520387)

asdn

April 8th, 2009, 06:42 AM

cause Emirates can pay them anymore. Emirates was already bought by etihad airways. That is the rumors.

wow seriously? emirates bought by etihad? I don't know whether to laugh at this rumor or believe it.

kalbongdad

April 8th, 2009, 08:01 AM

According to a.net, Interisland is using a vintage YS-11 for this route. Photo Link @ Jetphotos.net (http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6520387)

meron palang airport sa vigan....well now hindi na mahirap pumunta don...been there thrice and puro by land lang sakit sa pwet biyahe..anyway yung plane na ginagamit ng interisland airlines mukhang nakakatakot naman yun...parang kahit anong oras pwedeng bumagsak...bagong pintura lang pero halatang luma ang model

pthfndr19

April 8th, 2009, 12:28 PM

^^kakatakot nga sumakay jan dahil luma... dapat bumili sila ng bago plane o kahit second-hand na hindi kalumaan yung parang sa PAL Express.

zoroethgenre_003

April 8th, 2009, 01:19 PM

Top 10 Busiest Air Routes in the Philippines

visit: www.alvinrexlucero.wordpress.com

shytype

April 8th, 2009, 03:40 PM

is there any plans to resume the sangley point as new international gateway of the country

urban Iegend

April 8th, 2009, 05:09 PM

Top 10 Busiest Air Routes in the Philippines

visit: www.alvinrexlucero.wordpress.com

PAL 4 x 7
Cebu Pac 4 x 7
Zest Air 1 x 7

63 flights/week na po ang MLA-TAC :)

next month magiging 21 flights/week na ang TAC-CEB (14 palang ngayon)

Rodel

April 8th, 2009, 06:57 PM

Delta - NWA Merger

i'm not sure if this is already mentioned on this thread but i only learned yesterday when i open the nwa website that the 2 airlines will be merged end of this year (actually, delta had bought NWA).
it was also mentioned that surviving entity is Delta (not actually a merger, but a buy-off). so that means, by next year, we would see Delta in MNL, they will take over the MNL-NRT and MNL-NGO routes all the way to the US.

mwg12a

April 8th, 2009, 06:59 PM

^^^^ Old news, they already merged and some of NWA liveries are being repainted to a Delta logo. I believe that there were Delta aircraft logos that's been in NAIA T1 before, there were pictures shown in this thread or the previous thread.

Rodel

April 8th, 2009, 07:08 PM

Rodel

April 8th, 2009, 07:11 PM

guys, does anybody knows kung ok ba ang korean airlines going to the US? i checked their website and they are using their 777's to SEA. eto ba yung may monitor/screen sa seats even on economy class?

shytype

April 8th, 2009, 08:21 PM

6 Mindanao Airports Project scheduled on Time
Ozamiz, Pagadian, Cotabato, Zamboanga and Dipolog airports expansion project to be completed this year.

by Manuel T. Cayon
April 8, 2009

DAVAO CITY—The repair and upgrade of six airports in Mindanao would be completed by the second half of the year, that include asphalt overlay, extension of runways, and the construction and repair new and old terminal buildings.

The biggest, the Laguindingan Airport in Misamis Oriental, however, would be completed in 2012. This new and modern airport would cost P7.853 billion, accounting for 73 percent of the seven airport development projects in Mindanao.

The six other projects are in their various stages of completion. According to the latest project report given by developers to the Mindanao Economic Development Council (Medco), there have been no hitches so far in any of the projects.

The Ozamiz airport in Misamis Occidental in northwestern Mindanao is expected to complete in July its 90-meter river bank protection, and the widening, concreting and asphalt-overlay of its runway. The construction works would also include removing runway markings and obstructions, and the rehabilitation of its terminal building, Medco said in the report.

All the works on program have been completed, except for the widening of the runway that remains 50.47-percent complete. Work at the Ozamiz airport began in December 2006 with a budget of P215.13 million.

Work in the P379.46-million Pagadian City Airport in Zamboanga del Sur is expected to be completed by August.

The first phase of widening and concrete works of its runway, taxiway and apron is nearly complete. The second phase is 33-percent complete.

Aside from the current works, the project which started in June 2008 also involves the purchase of meteorological instruments, construction of an administration building and rehabilitation of existing terminal building.

Next to be completed, according to Medco, would be the P600-million Cotabato City Airport. The repair and improvement works for this project started in 2006, following safety concerns about its runway.

The report on the project is not encouraging though, as work on its air navigational facilities and the rehabilitation of its airfield lighting system are still to be approved.

Although the first and major asphalt overlay of the runway was completed, its second stage of the project started only last year and was so far reported at six-percent complete.

Also, the rehabilitation of the terminal building was bidded out only last March 24.

Construction and rehabilitation works on the Zamboanga City Airport is estimated to cost P428.5 million and the P478.05-million Dipolog City Airport expected to be finished in October, the report said.

In the Zamboanga City Airport, work has been completed on the asphalt overlay of the runway as well as the rehabilitation of its terminal building and the construction of its elevated water tank and power house.

The second phase of the rehabilitation work on the terminal building is still to be bid out though, and the asphalt overlay of the second section of the runway is still 9.07-percent complete.

In the Dipolog City Airport, the shore protection project the widening and asphalt overlay of its runway were completed.

The extension of its runway was 46.37-percent complete, according to the Medco report.

The contract for the rehabilitation works for its terminal building was bidded out last March 26, while the purchase and installation of meteorological instruments are now being worked out.

The Laguindingan Airport in Laguindingan town would be the new international airport to service Cagayan de Oro City and the rest of Northern Mindanao. Construction work started in April 2007.

The project required the construction of horizontal and vertical utilities, and the supply, delivery and installation of navigation and support facilities.

The Korean Economic Development Cooperation Fund, the South Korean Export-Import Bank and the Nordic Investment Bank of Germany have funded the airport project.

The total cost for the the Mindanao airport development projects was estimated at P10.65 billion.

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kiretoce

April 9th, 2009, 04:06 AM

^^ The fact that you've resurrected this long forgotten and buried thread only proves that nothing is happening on that front. ;)

kiretoce

April 9th, 2009, 04:17 AM

guys, does anybody knows kung ok ba ang korean airlines going to the US? i checked their website and they are using their 777's to SEA. eto ba yung may monitor/screen sa seats even on economy class?

KE is one of the better Asian carriers that connects the Philippines to the US. Plus ICN isn't such a bad place to get stuck in during a layover between flight sectors. :okay:

terrapinoy

April 9th, 2009, 04:46 AM

^^ Even their older 747's have been upgraded with personal videos and a good selection of entertainment options in economy. ICN is easier to transit through IMHO and has lots of stores. KE's is one of the few options in the DC area for direct flights to Asia.

Rodel

April 9th, 2009, 05:04 AM

KE is one of the better Asian carriers that connects the Philippines to the US. Plus ICN isn't such a bad place to get stuck in during a layover between flight sectors. :okay:

thank you...do you know if the KE flights to the US have individual monitors on the economy seats? (similar to SQ, CX and KLM)

kiretoce

April 9th, 2009, 05:13 AM

thank you...do you know if the KE flights to the US have individual monitors on the economy seats? (similar to SQ, CX and KLM)

Yes, KE does have PTVs in Economy Class.

terrapinoy

April 9th, 2009, 05:18 AM

meron palang airport sa vigan....well now hindi na mahirap pumunta don...been there thrice and puro by land lang sakit sa pwet biyahe..anyway yung plane na ginagamit ng interisland airlines mukhang nakakatakot naman yun...parang kahit anong oras pwedeng bumagsak...bagong pintura lang pero halatang luma ang model

I read on a.net that some of the YS-11 fans want to travel to the Philippines just to ride the vintage aircraft. Naging tourist attraction ang Interisland airways with their YS-11 and Yak 40.

808 state

April 9th, 2009, 09:04 AM

TUGUEGARAO (TUG)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2r4prmo.jpg
from prosemonkey (http://www.prosemonkey.com/2008_03_01_caffinaarchive.html)

SAN FERNANDO, LA UNION (SFE)
http://i42.tinypic.com/2nth0eh.jpg
originally posted by ergit222

LAOAG (LAO)
http://i43.tinypic.com/2j1mvdw.jpg
from Google

http://i41.tinypic.com/2j6a007.jpg
from Google

kiretoce

April 9th, 2009, 09:07 AM

TUGUEGARAO (TUG)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2r4prmo.jpg
from prosemonkey (http://www.prosemonkey.com/2008_03_01_caffinaarchive.html)

Is that the terminal itself? Or, just the fire station.

808 state

April 9th, 2009, 09:22 AM

I don't know...i hope it's just the fire station...I can't find any pic of TUG other than that.

anyway, i kinda like the control tower...

"cute"- the perfect word to describe....
I may not have come up with the best choice of words hehehe

mwg12a

April 9th, 2009, 09:36 AM

Yes, KE does have PTVs in Economy Class.

When my sister inlaw needed to fly back to the Philippines when her mother passed away, she flew with KE out of Dallas texas using B777 (she originated from Orlando and I believe it was AA connecting via KE to Cebu), she had a lay over in Icheon ofcourse but I think KE also uses B777 to Cebu

kiretoce

April 9th, 2009, 09:40 AM

boom_box

April 9th, 2009, 09:51 AM

may nawawala daw na presidential chopper dyan sa may cordillera..:ohno:

Yeah.. its confirmed.. the Presidential Bell 412.. (A civilian variant of UH-1N)
No survivors.. :ohno: :(
Read Here (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20090407-198424/Chopper-with-Arroyo-aides-missing)

and our great news agencies reporting again with their fresh news. :ohno:

ABS-CBN news said that the chopper lost signal causing it to make an emergency landing!

WT..!! ano yan parang R/C heli..?

Balitanghali news reporter said that the PAF is sending out one of its "Fokker F-27 helicopter" to look for it.

Actual Fokker F-27...
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/5/6/0120653.jpg

mwg12a

April 9th, 2009, 10:13 AM

LukeyJoe

April 9th, 2009, 12:34 PM

^^ I think it's DL and not AA, because AA is not in the same airline alliance with KE, therefore there won't be any interline agreements on both carriers. AA is with OneWorld and KE is with SkyTeam. KE's US partner is DL; plus DL maintains a mini-hub here at MCO.

Just because two airlines are not in the same alliance or codeshare doesn't mean they can't interconnect. I've been booked iteneraries between airlines from different alliances and never had any issues (even Expedia and Travelocity does this). My bags are always checked through to final destination. The only caveat is that I had to pick up my boarding pass for each leg; however, I just pick them up at either the boarding gate or service counter, not at the regular check in counter.

All alliances do is streamline passenger experience within codeshare partners such as earn ff miles for just one program instead of separate programs, receiving all boarding passes upon check in, use of terminal amenities of host airline etc.

Sometimes even alliance partners won't honor or doesn't book certain routes from their partner airlines. In my case, when I lived in Italy a couple of years ago I couldn't book a flight from Catania, Italy to Manila even though Alitalia, NW and KLM are all partners. They would only let me book FCO-MNL via Amsterdam. A visit to a travel agent gave me Alitalia (Sky Team) - Cathay Pacific (One World) itenerary which worked wonderfully.

Noize_320

April 9th, 2009, 12:38 PM

Yeah.. its confirmed.. the Presidential Bell 412.. (A civilian variant of UH-1N)
No survivors.. :ohno: :(
Read Here (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20090407-198424/Chopper-with-Arroyo-aides-missing)

and our great news agencies reporting again with their fresh news. :ohno:

WT..!! ano yan parang R/C heli..?

Actual Fokker F-27...
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/5/6/0120653.jpg

e-mail that (especially the photo) to them :lol:

Sky Harbor

April 9th, 2009, 06:00 PM

LAOAG (LAO)
http://i43.tinypic.com/2j1mvdw.jpg
from Google

http://i41.tinypic.com/2j6a007.jpg
from Google

While on the subject of Laoag International Airport, there is a mini-controversy on Wikipedia as to how the airport's name is translated into Ilokano. Over the course of the article's history, the following translations have appeared (in chronological order, with the most recent in bold):

Tatayaban Sangalubongan ti Laoag
Panglubong a Pagpatayaban ti Laoag
Kalubungan a Pagtagitayaban ti Laoag
Nalubungan a Pagtayaban ti Laoag

At the time Philippine airport articles were made en masse, the third translation was the basis for the translation of other airports in provinces where either the official language or the language of the majority is Ilokano. Therefore, Baler Airport became Pagtagitayaban ti Baler, Loakan Airport became Pagtagitayaban ti Loakan and so on.

Which of the translations is correct? Or, if the translations are all wrong, what is the correct translation?

sairoangel

April 9th, 2009, 06:57 PM

erport ti laoag

shytype

April 10th, 2009, 05:10 AM

Asian Legacy Airlines launches Asian Promo Fare

Valid for flights between the Asean Region

Bangkok- Asian legacy carriers agreed today to launch Asean (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) wide seat sale called Asian fare to promote tourism in the region.

The Visit Asean Pass (VAP) programme have introduced a new air-pass with lower airfare since it was launched in January 2006 by the ASEAN Tourism Association in which participating airlines offer as low as $99 coupons between two Asian cities.

Thai International, Garuda Indonesia, Philippine Airlines, Lao Airlines, Vietnam Airlines and Myanmar Airways International, have jointly agreed to introduced special economy airfare for travel on domestic and international sectors within the Asean nations. Singapore and Malaysia airlines promised to adopt the promo on their airlines.

Pandit Chanapai, Thai's Executive Vice President, said that the special "ASEAN Fare" promotion marks the occasion that Thailand serves as Asean Chairman for a period of one and a half year and is host to the 14 th Asean Summit 2009.

To be eligible for the promotion, passengers must purchase a minimum of 3 or maximum of 5 flight coupons (1 coupon for 1 flight traveled). The cost of a special air ticket varies from point of destination and is considered to be the cheapest fare of the industry.

The promotional deal offers an attractive fare to customers traveling to and from Capital Cities destinations and will be valid now until November 30, 2009.

Applicable Fares for Adult:

COUNTRY 3 coupons 4 coupons 5 coupons
CAMBODIA USD 420 USD 550 USD 600
INDONESIA USD 420 USD 550 USD 600
LAOS USD 420 USD 550 USD 600
MALAYSIA MYR 1595 MYR 2075 MYR 2235
MYANMAR MMK 2705 MMK 3540 MMK 3865
PHILIPPINES USD 420 USD 550 USD 600
SINGAPORE SGD 720 SGD 935 SGD 1005
THAILAND THB 16620 THB 21610 THB 23270
VIETNAM USD 420 USD 550 USD 600

Applicable Fares for Child:

COUNTRY 3 coupons 4 coupons 5 coupons
CAMBODIA USD 315 USD 410 USD 450
INDONESIA USD 315 USD 410 USD 450
LAOS USD 315 USD 410 USD 450
MALAYSIA MYR 1195 MYR 1555 MYR 1675
MYANMAR MMK 2030 MMK 2640 MMK 2900
PHILIPPINES USD 315 USD 410 USD 450
SINGAPORE SGD 540 SGD 700 SGD 760
THAILAND THB 12480 THB 16230 THB 17490
VIETNAM USD 315 USD 410 USD 450

Restrictions:

Not valid on VN1724/ VN1725
Not valid on PR specific flight numbers as follows:
MNL-BKI v.v. not valid on PR 703 / 702
A. Travel on any sector is restricted to once in each direction.
B. Departure from any city is limited to twice only.
All flight segments must be confirmed at the time of ticket purchase.
Maximum stay:
MNL-KUL v.v. not valid on PR 703 / 705 / 807 / 702 / 704 / 806
Not valid on GA 9000 series flights and GA 846/847/848/849 for SIN-BPN v.v.
Not valid on TG 3000 – 8000 series flights
Minimum stay:
MNL-KCH v.v. not valid on PR 807 / 806
CEB-BKI v.v. not valid on PR 709 / 708
CEB-KUL v.v. not valid on PR 709 / 708

Fare conditions:

Visit Asean Air Pass can be purchased in any participating airlines.
All travel must commence within the period: April 1 2009 — 30th of November 2009.
Visit Asean Air Pass is subject to child and infant discount.
Minimum stay — 5 days, maximum stay — 1 month.
Minimum number of flight coupons — 3 coupons. Maximum number of flight coupons — 5 coupons.
Airport taxes and surcharges are not included.

kiretoce

April 10th, 2009, 05:25 AM

While on the subject of Laoag International Airport, there is a mini-controversy on Wikipedia as to how the airport's name is translated into Ilokano. Over the course of the article's history, the following translations have appeared (in chronological order, with the most recent in bold):

Tatayaban Sangalubongan ti Laoag
Panglubong a Pagpatayaban ti Laoag
Kalubungan a Pagtagitayaban ti Laoag
Nalubungan a Pagtayaban ti Laoag

At the time Philippine airport articles were made en masse, the third translation was the basis for the translation of other airports in provinces where either the official language or the language of the majority is Ilokano. Therefore, Baler Airport became Pagtagitayaban ti Baler, Loakan Airport became Pagtagitayaban ti Loakan and so on.

Which of the translations is correct? Or, if the translations are all wrong, what is the correct translation?

Sangalubongan Patayaban ti Laoag. That according to my dad, he's Ilocano. :okay:

kalbongdad

April 10th, 2009, 05:39 AM

Is that the terminal itself? Or, just the fire station.

nope hindi yun yung terminal pero ang terminal nila parang yung lumang tacloban terminal na g.i. sheets ang bubong...maliit din at walang carousel...although the runway is good nakakapagtaka lang bakit halos lahat ng runway natin magaganda pero yung mga terminal mga pangit....well anyway at least it is being changed now....sa la union bakit walang terminal maganda ba terminal dyan?

richard24

April 10th, 2009, 05:44 AM

Sangalubong nga Pagtayaban ti Laoag. pinag-awayan pa namin ng nanay ko. :lol: tagalog translation of that is pandaigdigan na palipiaran ng laoag., although sangalubong can mean a lot of things. and pagtayaban is not necessarily an airport. magulo. erport ti laoag nalang., hehehe., :)

kalbongdad

April 10th, 2009, 05:49 AM

o di ba maganda ang terminal ng laoag parang malaking bahay na bata dahil sa bricks...pero ang vicinity ay pangit...hindi sya malinis talaga

kiretoce

April 10th, 2009, 06:15 AM

nope hindi yun yung terminal pero ang terminal nila parang yung lumang tacloban terminal na g.i. sheets ang bubong...maliit din at walang carousel...although the runway is good nakakapagtaka lang bakit halos lahat ng runway natin magaganda pero yung mga terminal mga pangit....well anyway at least it is being changed now....sa la union bakit walang terminal maganda ba terminal dyan?

I'm guessing they're thinking more of safety first (the runway condition) above comfort and convenience (the terminal condition) of passengers transiting through the airport.

o di ba maganda ang terminal ng laoag parang malaking bahay na bata dahil sa bricks...pero ang vicinity ay pangit...hindi sya malinis talaga

It looks more like a train station/depot to me rather than an airport. But in hindsight, it does stand out from the other regional/provincial airports in the country. Another example of unique airport architectural design is the Basco Airport in Batanes. The terminal's facade is made from rocks!

kalbongdad

April 10th, 2009, 06:20 AM

I'm guessing they're thinking more of safety first (the runway condition) above comfort and convenience (the terminal condition) of passengers transiting through the airport.

It looks more like a train station/depot to me rather than an airport. But in hindsight, it does stand out from the other regional/provincial airports in the country. Another example of unique airport architectural design is the Basco Airport in Batanes. The terminal's facade is made from rocks!

i have not been to batanes yet....sana yung terminal nila kagaya ng mga bahay ng ivatan....bato....:lol:

kiretoce

April 10th, 2009, 06:21 AM

i have not been to batanes yet....sana yung terminal nila kagaya ng mga bahay ng ivatan....bato....:lol:

:yes: Yup! It does mimic the Ivatan houses. Someone posted a photo of it here before, guess that photo is now in the archives.

le Reine

April 10th, 2009, 06:59 AM

:yes: Yup! It does mimic the Ivatan houses. Someone posted a photo of it here before, guess that photo is now in the archives.Well, somehow it does.

lagal[og] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/342162150_b34d6d1163.jpg?v=0

karlaredor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/karlaredor/3020547829/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3020547829_4671d14987.jpg

kiretoce

April 10th, 2009, 07:08 AM

^^ Thanks, Chris! :okay: Hmm....I wonder if they have First Class/Business Class lounges and baggage claim carousels in there. :lol:

mwg12a

April 10th, 2009, 08:14 AM

Well, somehow it does.

lagal[og] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/342162150_b34d6d1163.jpg?v=0

karlaredor (http://www.flickr.com/photos/karlaredor/3020547829/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3020547829_4671d14987.jpg

I think it looks beautiful. It looks brand new too..

Just because two airlines are not in the same alliance or codeshare doesn't mean they can't interconnect. I've been booked iteneraries between airlines from different alliances and never had any issues (even Expedia and Travelocity does this). My bags are always checked through to final destination. The only caveat is that I had to pick up my boarding pass for each leg; however, I just pick them up at either the boarding gate or service counter, not at the regular check in counter.

This is true too, thinking back, I did pick up a cousin from the airport, she flew into the states with PAL and she flew into Atlanta at that time via Delta Airlines.

kiretoce

April 10th, 2009, 08:21 AM

Pilots refuse to fly over Baguio after 2pm, clouds pose unpredictable weather risk (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20090408-198590/Pilots-refuse-to-fly-over-Baguio-after-2pm)

There's a reason pilots refuse lifting off the runway of Baguio's Loakan Airport once the clock strikes 2 p.m.

Afternoon clouds almost always envelope the summer capital daily, according to 30-year-old data compiled by the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration.

Commercial airlines schedule Baguio trips in the mornings because of the unpredictable weather, although the practice is usually at the pilot's discretion, officials of the Air Transportation Office and the Department of Transportation and Communication said.

But there is no policy controlling the schedule of flights to Baguio because no expert to date can say whether the weather alone automatically makes every flight through the mountain region risky, said weather specialist Salvador Olinares.

"Statistics indicate that any day in the last 30 years in Baguio was cloudy. Anytime of the day, it's cloudy," he said.

Baguio is 1,500 meters above sea level and because of the relatively cool climate (running from an average of 12 degrees Celsius in December to as high as 24 degrees Celsius during summer), the city generates mist and clouds and receives the highest recorded rainfall than any area in the country, according to Pagasa records.

"You cannot beat nature. All we can do is to be prepared," Olinares said.

A cold front has been affecting Northern Luzon since April 6, and this has brought intermittent rains in Baguio and the rest of the Cordillera, including Ifugao, when the presidential helicopter carrying Malacañang officials ventured to scenic Banaue town on Tuesday, Olinares said.

The officials were on the way to Banaue to prepare for President Macapagal-Arroyo's visit there on Wednesday. Ms Arroyo is in Baguio City for her annual Lenten break.

The Bell 412 helicopter was declared missing on Tuesday night and the last message sent by one of its passengers, Press Undersecretary Jose Capadocia Jr., indicated that they were flying blind.

Olinares said a cold front could account for the deceptive calm of Baguio's weather on Tuesday afternoon, and the strong rains along Halsema Highway in interior Cordillera which leads to Banaue, Olinares said.

A cold front is the atmospheric condition where cold air replaces warm air. The transition increases the formation of clouds, which are masses of condensed cool air.

Based on the weather patterns of Tuesday, cumulus clouds had formed when the helicopter left the Loakan Airport at 4:20 p.m.

"Distant fog had already crept in and based on what the Baguio weather station had observed, there was no more visibility for 10 kilometers" at the runup to 5 p.m. when the weather condition was officially recorded, Olinares said.

Pilots have always been aware of the risks of Baguio flights.

Air Force Lt. Isagani Quiming, pilot of one of the rescue helicopters searching for the Malacañang officials' chopper, said a typical Huey helicopter has a cruising speed of 80 to 90 miles per hour.

Flying below that speed means the helicopter is vulnerable to the strong air currents generated from mountain walls.

"Flying in low air speed makes it more dangerous, kasi madaling tangayin ng gustiness ng hangin (because the chopper can be pulled by the gustiness of the wind)," Quiming said as he piloted a rescue chopper over Kabayan, Benguet on Wednesday.

"Mahirap din kasi kung puro bundok. Mataas ang elevation, malakas ang hangin at makapal ang clouds (It's also difficult to fly helicopters here because the mountains are high. The higher the elevation, the stronger the wind speed and the thicker the clouds)," he said.

The war diary of the late Capt. Demetriou Luis documented how Japanese pilots refused to fly to Baguio after 10 a.m. during World War II because of the terrain and erratic weather, said lawyer Concepcion Luis, Luis' daughter.

In 2005, a government plane crashed at the Atok Trail, near the Baguio City Economic Zone, as it approached the Loakan Airport, according to the Office of Civil Defense here.

"ZukiChirO"

April 10th, 2009, 10:47 AM

Still no sign of missing plane in Isabela with 7 passengers
04/10/2009
MANILA, Philippines - Search and rescue teams still have not found any sign of the small plane that went missing in the northeastern province of Isabela on April 2, police said on Friday.

Poor weather condition in Isabela is hampering the search for the aircraft with seven people on board, according to Chief Superintendent Roberto Damian, police director of the Cagayan Valley Region.

The plane that left the airport in Tuguegarao City at about 8 a.m. on April 2 for a 25-minute flight to Maconacon, Isabela never reached its destination.

The plane’s passengers were identified as SPO2 Rolly Castaňos of the Philippine National Police, Celestino Salacup, Abelardo Baggay, Joel Basilio and James Bakilan. It was piloted by Capts. Tomas Z. Yaňez and Reiner Ruiz.

Amid the fruitless search, 30 people, including relatives of some of the passengers, have joined ground teams tasked to locate the missing plane with tail no. RP-C 764 owned by Chemtrad Aviation Corp.

Residents of Isabela’s mountain villages along the Sierra Madre mountain range had earlier been reported to have joined the search.

Damian said the search and rescue mission had not stopped even during the Holy Week.

“No positive report of sighting from ground search teams. Aerial search will continue tomorrow (Saturday) morning because we have reports that the weather is clear in Sierra Madre areas," said Damian in a phone interview.

“The cloud cover is erratic from noon (Friday) onwards," he said.

In contrast, the helicopter carrying eight presidential aides that crashed into the high mountains of the Cordilleras on April 7 was immediately located after local residents reported hearing an explosion along the boundary of Benguet and Ifugao provinces.

Search and rescue teams found the wreckage of the chopper on that same day, hours after it was reported missing past 4 p.m.

The victims were on their way to Banaue in Ifugao for an ocular inspection of a site that was supposed to be visited by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo last Wednesday.

:ohno::ohno::ohno:

arianespace

April 10th, 2009, 12:39 PM

This type of terminal structure was built in 1978. There were around 20 of them. You will find it mostly in Luzon and Visayas. They came from ADB loan which was approved in 1974. Dumaguete and Ozamiz Terminal also has the same architecture.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/Catarman_Airport.jpg

Terminal structure you find in Surigao, Pagadian and Dipolog were simultaneously built in 1982 and funds from that project were also coming from an ADB loan. Batanes terminal is funded by the National government. Other international airports in Laoag and Zamboanga were funded by foreign loans too, only that they have independent architect of the other upon insistence of Madame Imelda. They were approved after the Manila Terminal project.

The new project you find now in the papers were actually planned to be done 35 years ago when Apo ferdie wanted to be a Malay royalty. Its in the tourism agenda book in 1974.

Well, at least that was the plan 30 years ago by the Philippine government. Some were successful and some were not. But the banks said that all of them were a dismal failure because they never met the projected traffic as was previously thought they could generate if operational. Of course, the government has plenty of excuses.

Davao for example, took 7 years to match the design output for 2002, while Cebu took 5 years to fill mactan to expected capacity. General Santos stagnated to become almost a white elephant. Thats why lending agencies revise their plans for Iloilo, Bacolod and Cagayan Airports to be more realistic than bloated government figures.

Government insist even on non feasible ones like Panglao when a small airport will do, or the Bicol airport where the government has difficulty selling it to the Koreans for funding. They even want to make Clark bigger than it can currently handle for growth even if the Korean Airport authority said otherwise. The airport operator of Incheon said that Clark Terminal project is overly ambitious.

Why is it so? CIAC apparently wanted to have a 5 million capacity terminal on top of the 2 million it now has when its current capacity only hovers around a million, and based on expert airport designers from the Middle East, it will take at least 10 years to double that figure unless they moved all LCC operations out of Manila, and guess what, Clark has current capacity for 2 million good for the next 8 years I suppose.

The biggest white elephant of them all is this airport. What a waste of government money. It could have been used for Tacloban or Puerto Princesa.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2nth0eh.jpg

Just because two airlines are not in the same alliance or codeshare doesn't mean they can't interconnect. I've been booked iteneraries between airlines from different alliances and never had any issues (even Expedia and Travelocity does this). My bags are always checked through to final destination. The only caveat is that I had to pick up my boarding pass for each leg; however, I just pick them up at either the boarding gate or service counter, not at the regular check in counter.

All alliances do is streamline passenger experience within codeshare partners such as earn ff miles for just one program instead of separate programs, receiving all boarding passes upon check in, use of terminal amenities of host airline etc.

Sometimes even alliance partners won't honor or doesn't book certain routes from their partner airlines. In my case, when I lived in Italy a couple of years ago I couldn't book a flight from Catania, Italy to Manila even though Alitalia, NW and KLM are all partners. They would only let me book FCO-MNL via Amsterdam. A visit to a travel agent gave me Alitalia (Sky Team) - Cathay Pacific (One World) itenerary which worked wonderfully.

I affirmed this one. This is correct. I was booked by a travel agent on Philippine Airlines Ticket all the way to London from Manila via Hong-Kong once. I took PAL to Hong-Kong and Cathay to London and back without issues.

Sangalubongan Patayaban ti Laoag. That according to my dad, he's Ilocano. :okay:

It is the correct translation of Laoag Airport. That is the name as far as I know way back then but I'm not an Ilokano. Apo Ferdie said it that way before. I don't know why the new generation wanted it to be spoken differently.

The correct translation was said by Richard24. You don't have to interpret each and every word otherwise you end up with absurd translations. It happens a lot even to foreign languages.

sairoangel

April 10th, 2009, 01:17 PM

nu Sangalubongan Patayaban ti Laoag, iti nagan ti airport idiay laoag kasanu ngay dagiti aglanding nu kastat nagan na, masapul ngarud nga agaramed dapay iti paglandingan ti eroplanu?:lol:
sangalubongan meaning worldwire/pandaigdig something like that.
then Patayaban meaning paliparan, ti is of..
Laoag meaning light.

808 state

April 10th, 2009, 01:47 PM

Laoag Airport Terminal

http://i44.tinypic.com/2l8kcbd.jpg
from flickr by Danny & Joyce
Mandarin has a daily flight from Kaohsiung to Laoag

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Laoag Airport Control Tower

http://i40.tinypic.com/5vzpte.jpg
from flickr by Danny & Joyce

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808 state

April 10th, 2009, 02:09 PM

ENGLISH - Laoag International Airport
TAGALOG/FILIPINO - Paliparang Pandaigdig ng Laoag
ILOCANO - Tatayaban Sangalubongan ti Laoag

-wikipedia

arianespace

April 10th, 2009, 04:13 PM

^^
Ah, Wikipedia, written by expert etymologist! That is interesting. Very interesting. I wonder how would people learn?:lol:

What I like about Laoag is their ATC Tower. Somewhat the most unique there is in the Philippines!

kalbongdad

April 10th, 2009, 04:25 PM

I think it looks beautiful. It looks brand new too..

This is true too, thinking back, I did pick up a cousin from the airport, she flew into the states with PAL and she flew into Atlanta at that time via Delta Airlines.

ang galing naman ng terminal nila...reflective ng culture ng mga taga batanes...that's what i'm saying kahit maliit siya kung kita ang local culture sa design....maganda ang kalalabasan....galing bow ako...kung sino man ang nag design ng terminal na yan...

arianespace

April 10th, 2009, 04:59 PM

^^
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/468160960_1543029696_m.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2842244218_3517ebe29c_m.jpg

Its not exclusively a culture thing. Designs were based on geographic factor with one point in mind, WIND. We all know that Basco is like Scotland where heavy winds dominate most of the landscape so there is nothing spectacular about it. In fact, most of its houses are built on stones for structural integrity against the elements. You cant even see a bunch of fully grown trees standing to smile with the blowing headwinds.

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/3255069-Ivatan_stone_house-Province_of_Batanes.jpg

Thats why I said before that there are always plenty of reasons to visit other places in the country before even thinking of trying to see Hong-Kong or Singapore for example. Because they will never have this sight.

http://www.paraisophilippines.com/img/batanesbeach.jpg

But truth to tell, the Taiwanese are beating us to it.

As local folks always said, the Ibatan islands is where the wind calls its home!

sirhc aziledrolf

April 10th, 2009, 05:34 PM

Old PAL ad. Parang papag ung skybed nila.. Pilipinong-pilipino :) Based sa Ad parang sila nag-coin ng word na "Skybed"
http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w339/TabakoDream/PAL.jpg

arianespace

April 10th, 2009, 05:40 PM

^^
yes they were. Unfortunately, they never registered the term as trademark so others took their idea, registered it and applied it to their airline.

kalbongdad

April 10th, 2009, 05:59 PM

ganon tayo most of the time nananakaw ng mga opportunist na 1st worlders ang mga idea natin...who would believe na galing ang idea sa mga taga turd world....anyway siguro natuto na tayo ngayon dahil sa ipp

Lucentino

April 10th, 2009, 06:44 PM

Thats why I said before that there are always plenty of reasons to visit other places in the country before even thinking of trying to see Hong-Kong or Singapore for example. Because they will never have this sight.

I might be mis-interpreting your point here, but it is quite unfair to compare Batanes to SG and HK when it comes to tourism matters. I believe they are in a class of their own.

mwg12a

April 10th, 2009, 07:06 PM

^^^ I think you are misinterpreting arianspace's statement.

le Reine

April 10th, 2009, 08:18 PM

^^Same here. He only wanted to say that we should try visiting local places first before thinking of visiting abroad.

Lucentino

April 10th, 2009, 08:49 PM

^Ok. But as I have said, those places are each a class of it's own.

People who might want to see natural woders, they'd go to local spots. For mostly man-made wonders, they'd go abroad.

Now back to topic. :)

Lucentino

April 10th, 2009, 09:42 PM

^:lol:

is there any plans to resume the sangley point as new international gateway of the country

PGMA has chosen Clark (DMIA) to be a major international airport (with back-up infrastructures such as SCTEx, NLEx, Northrail).

IMHO it would have been better if the government chose to develop Sangley or
Fernando Airbase in Lipa (below).
http://k53.pbase.com/g1/78/737778/2/105539124.LBNdnYoo.jpg
Jack Hannen

Also, I am thinking, once the extensions of Coastal Road to Cavite City & LRT to Bacoor are completed, NAIA can serve purely international flights while Sangley can become the local hub.

Lucentino

April 10th, 2009, 10:03 PM

Dornier Aircraft (Midwest Airlines RP-C8328?)
http://i.pbase.com/g1/78/737778/2/110856356.oZKfL9sl.jpg
Jack Hannen

Lucentino

April 10th, 2009, 10:16 PM

So we have this at NAIA?
http://i.pbase.com/g6/78/737778/2/77766807.YCUtrhpG.jpg
PhilippineAviation

kiretoce

April 10th, 2009, 10:59 PM

While on the subject of Laoag International Airport, there is a mini-controversy on Wikipedia as to how the airport's name is translated into Ilokano. Over the course of the article's history, the following translations have appeared (in chronological order, with the most recent in bold):

Tatayaban Sangalubongan ti Laoag
Panglubong a Pagpatayaban ti Laoag
Kalubungan a Pagtagitayaban ti Laoag
Nalubungan a Pagtayaban ti Laoag

At the time Philippine airport articles were made en masse, the third translation was the basis for the translation of other airports in provinces where either the official language or the language of the majority is Ilokano. Therefore, Baler Airport became Pagtagitayaban ti Baler, Loakan Airport became Pagtagitayaban ti Loakan and so on.

Which of the translations is correct? Or, if the translations are all wrong, what is the correct translation?
ENGLISH - Laoag International Airport
TAGALOG/FILIPINO - Paliparang Pandaigdig ng Laoag
ILOCANO - Tatayaban Sangalubongan ti Laoag

-wikipedia

Funny how you sourced Wikipedia from where your information came from, 808state. Sky Harbor is one of the Filipino editors/moderators of Philippine related information on Wikipedia, and he's the one asking for the correct translation here. :nuts:

habagatcentral1

April 11th, 2009, 08:00 AM

Just wanna share an experience earlier about my flight bound to Iloilo with 5J 453.

Somewhere in Los Baños-Laguna area, the captain declared that we might get back to Manila DUE TO TECHNICAL PROBLEM...and yes I noticed because the plane wasn't ascending as it should be at that area...upon hearing the announcement, instead of getting pissed off, my heart pounded intensely with fear and anxiety...medyo abnormal din kasi ang take-off and the engine's throttle is unusually lower as it should be...

Then we took a circle around Laguna area, within the clouds, slowly ascending...and it was bumpy and the engine noise is still unusually not that noisy for ascending...umikot kami pabalik sana ng Maynila, then upon reaching 360 degrees, we soared again beyond the cloud covering...I was aware that Mount Makiling or Banahaw is just below us so I was anxious...then we broke off the clouds and finally the captain declared that they have "CORRECTED the ERROR." That 5 minutes was indeed giving me the goosebumps! And off we went to Iloilo and landed safely at 10:05AM.

I wonder what "ERROR" could that be?

This is what I get from watching too much Air Crash Investigations over NatGeo TV!

mwg12a

April 11th, 2009, 08:27 AM

^^^^ The error was just that the pilots just never experienced how to land an aircraft yet and he had to read the manual "Landing an aircraft for the dummies" when he thought he forgot the book in Manila, he needed to circle around to get instructions from a flight instructor while he look for his book, but he found it somehow and the flight instructor gave him a quick quiz on how to land an aircraft with other people on board.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

In tagalog, nakalimutan nuong piloto yuong libro niya na may instructions kung paano i-landing ang eroplano, pero nakita din niya kaya yon, tuloy rin ang ligaya....LMAO

I'm glad you had a safe flight to IloIlo Bernie. Whewwwwwwwwwwww! That was close isn't it? :hahaha:

Parang si Arroyo dito sa picture na ito, ngiting aso pero walang clue kung ano ang sinasabi sa kanya, Oo na lang nang Oo at para hindi mapahiya , pinirma han na lang niya ang approval notice para hindi siya mapahiya, baka daw bawiin ang free lunch pagkatapos ng demo...LMAO

http://i42.tinypic.com/2nth0eh.jpg

habagatcentral1

April 11th, 2009, 08:31 AM

^^ Talaga...paranoid na nga ako....I should restrain myself from watching too much ACI over NatGeo...kakapraning! Hehehe!!! :D

mwg12a

April 11th, 2009, 08:33 AM

Na-miss mong makita yuong dagdag ko tungkol kay arroyo..LMAO

mwg12a

April 11th, 2009, 08:38 AM

^^^^ I like the idea of Sangley Point better than in Lipa, because the area can be reclaimed to further extend the facility. With the coastal road connecting Manila to most provinces in Cavite, it will be real close. The one in Lipa is located inland, sangley can be developed into an airport since it's mostly far from the more populous area especially if the land is reclaimed, just like in HK and Japan.

lochinvar

April 11th, 2009, 08:46 AM

mwg12a

April 11th, 2009, 09:06 AM

Taal has always been an active volcano, that's a big drawback. With Sangley, you don't necessarily need to reclaim a big big chunk of land, it can start with something close between small and medium scale reclaimation and slowly reclaim a bit farther for future expansion.

The more costly part in realizing these would be the connection from Manila to Sangley via coastal road which the government needed to do anyway regardless of the airport or not because there is no more room for a new highway inland because Cavite is densely populated already.

808 state

April 11th, 2009, 09:28 AM

Funny how you sourced Wikipedia from where your information came from, 808state. Sky Harbor is one of the Filipino editors/moderators of Philippine related information on Wikipedia, and he's the one asking for the correct translation here. :nuts:

:omg::hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:rofl::D

Rodel

April 11th, 2009, 10:17 AM

Rodel

April 11th, 2009, 10:20 AM

ang galing naman ng terminal nila...reflective ng culture ng mga taga batanes...that's what i'm saying kahit maliit siya kung kita ang local culture sa design....maganda ang kalalabasan....galing bow ako...kung sino man ang nag design ng terminal na yan...

yeah...very good indeed. i was surprised to see that kind of terminal in basco.
sana yung other cities design ang airport nila sa culture nila.

Ronskie

April 11th, 2009, 10:31 AM

Caffeinhaler;34852178]Direct flight between Cebu and Naga pushed
Manila Bulletin

By MALOU M. MOZO
April 8, 2009, 7:10pm

Cebu City – With the Bicol Region positioning itself as the next adventure tourism destination in the Philippines, an official from the Provincial Government of Camarines Sur is courting airline companies to open a direct flight from Cebu to the provincial capital of Naga City.

“Cebu is a huge market that Naga City would like to tap,” said CamSur Governor Luis Raymund Villafuerte Jr., who said the capital city now caters to 21 flights per week, including a Manila-Naga route.

“But we want to open accessibility to Cebu because it has a potential to grow tourist arrivals to the region,” he said.

CamSur is among the six provinces in Bicol region and is known for its government-owned sports and adventure tourism facilities. It aims to make Cebu an important partner in drawing not only local tourists from the Southern Philippine but also to give Cebu tourism stakeholders a wider option of tour itineraries for their foreign visitors.

Naga City is now an emerging sports and adventure tourism destination after the provincial government spent multi-million pesos to operate tourism-related facilities such as the six-hectare CamSur Watersports Complex (CWC) and soon, the world’s first largest downhill bike trail.

Villafuerte, who started an active government-led enterprise strategy, said that because of the province’s active promotion of sports and adventure tourism, CamSur earned P90 million in revenues last year and provided over 3,000 employment opportunities.

“Cebu is known for its rich history and wide adventure tourism packages, which could complement with the packages we offer here,” Villafuerte said, citing the popular wakeboarding activity at CWC is considered to be the province’s niche offering in adventure sports.

“By providing domestic and foreign visitors with a wider option for leisure activities, we can truly become the leisure capital in Asia,” the governor said.

With a direct Cebu-Naga City flight, Villafuerte said Cebu can also enjoy increased number of domestic and foreign tourists originally booked for CamSur. At present, he said they are trying to convince airliners like Cebu Pacific, Zest Air, and PAL Express to consider the Naga-Cebu-Naga route.

Villafuerte said a direct flight from Naga to Boracay is set to open next month.

lochinvar

April 11th, 2009, 02:23 PM

In that case, let "Nardong Putik" know that his pet project is the better one. Also wake him up from his deep hibernation. :banana:

mwg12a

April 11th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Who is nardong putik?

Ecija

April 11th, 2009, 03:52 PM

yeah...very good indeed. i was surprised to see that kind of terminal in basco.
sana yung other cities design ang airport nila sa culture nila.

Tama po kayo dyan sir, dapat talaga na ang design ng airport eh nagrereflect sa kanilang culture.

bartstrife99

April 11th, 2009, 04:17 PM

Who is nardong putik?

Kilalang mamatay tao at may anting anting sa Cavite :lol::lol: humanda ka at baka mabasa nya post mo!

Sky Harbor

April 11th, 2009, 06:29 PM

lochinvar

April 11th, 2009, 07:01 PM

Actually, I am referring to the guy who played Nardong Putik in the movie and who slept most of the time while in the Senate hence the quote.

boom_box

April 11th, 2009, 07:44 PM

:bash:
GMA News are really irresponsible reporters..

PAF already said that the Presidential 412 has no Black Box (which is compose of FDR - Flight Data Recorder and CVR - Cockpit Voice Recorder) which is mostly present only in airplanes...

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/latest/39712/Blackbox-not-yet-recovered-from-chopper-crash-site---AFP-clarifies

pati ang title sa news video... nakaka confuse.. :bash: :ohno:
Blackbox not yet recovered from chopper crash site - AFP clarifies ???

and yet they still report this one...
Black box of ill-fated Bell 412 chopper recovered
http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/latest/39707/Black-box-of-ill-fated-Bell-412-chopper-recovered

kung titignan nyo sa video... decomposed black cadaver ang dinadala judging by the medical person wearing mask.. but still they report it as black box.... bakit na naagnas ba ang black box..? LoL...

Sky Harbor

April 12th, 2009, 03:39 AM

The word "airport" apparently has many translations into Philippine languages, and it seems that many Filipinos are unaware of the word for it. Well, for posterity's sake, here's a list. :D

Tagalog: paliparan
Cebuano: tugpahanan
Bikol: palayogan
Kapampangan: sulapawan
Ilokano: pagtayaban
Hiligaynon: hulugpaan
Chavacano: aeropuerto
Waray-Waray: panluparan

If there are any corrections or additions (particularly for other languages), let's post! :)

mygz14

April 12th, 2009, 04:14 AM

Ramon Revilla Sr. :D

romantic_guy08

April 12th, 2009, 05:25 AM

the 2nd PAL reconfigured 747, si 7475 arrived 2 days ago...

IsaganiZenze

April 12th, 2009, 07:47 AM

From my trip to the Philippines, March 23-April 4, 2009

Going to Coron, Palawan, Philippines

March 23-25, 2009

Arriving at Busuanga Airport
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF9769-1.jpg

Older Aiport
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/IMG_0024-1.jpg

The Tower
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF9771-1.jpg

PAL EXPRESS - our plane
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF9777-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF9770-1.jpg

On our way back, waiting for our delayed plane....sigh (again)

the ontime Cebu Pacific
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0199-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0200-1.jpg
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http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0205-1.jpg

and while we were there, we missed GMA by a mere 20 minutes...and this was her entourage's plane :)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0223-1.jpg

our plane finally arrives
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0226-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0229-1.jpg
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http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0237-1.jpg

inside the plane
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0242-1.jpg

kiretoce

April 12th, 2009, 08:02 AM

^^ How was the flight? Was it noisy and jittery?

mwg12a

April 12th, 2009, 08:23 AM

From my trip to the Philippines, March 23-April 4, 2009

Going to Coron, Palawan, Philippines

March 23-25, 2009

Arriving at Busuanga Airport
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF9769-1.jpg

PAL EXPRESS - our plane
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF9777-1.jpg

On our way back, waiting for our delayed plane....sigh (again)

the ontime Cebu Pacific
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0199-1.jpg

and while we were there, we missed GMA by a mere 20 minutes...and this was her entourage's plane :)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0223-1.jpg

our plane finally arrives
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0226-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0229-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0232-1.jpg

Looks like they have a very beautiful little airport in Coron Palawan doesn't it?

It looks very presentable for tourist to me....

Are you originally from this area? Busuanga.... Or Just went there on a vacation in one of their beach resorts out there?

IsaganiZenze

April 12th, 2009, 08:38 AM

^^ How was the flight? Was it noisy and jittery?

actually it was surprisingly quiet and smooth, i was expecting to be jumping and louder than normal....i mean it was noisy due to the propeller, we can't take that away, but i thought it was quiet

IsaganiZenze

April 12th, 2009, 08:42 AM

Looks like they have a very beautiful little airport in Coron Palawan doesn't it?

It looks very presentable for tourist to me....

Are you originally from this area? Busuanga.... Or Just went there on a vacation in one of their beach resorts out there?

there were a lot of tourists actually, Filipino weekenders, and a few foreigners. Very presentable indeed, they were actually paving the road to the airport, i think they just opened the new airport back in November 2008. It's actually on Busuanga, but it's the gateway to Coron.

as for originally being from there, no...i wish though..he he, it's definitely paradise. My cousin suggested the place, we were originally thinking of Boracay, but it was cheaper here, when we tried to book it, so we went here instead, we wanted to go to Palawan anyways! so it worked out better. We will stay in the beach resorts next time, we stayed at a lodge in Coron, and we just took the tricycle towards the port, then they have guides that will show you around Coron....srry for the OT :) you should all go there....i say amazing trip!!!

frequentflier

April 12th, 2009, 08:43 AM

^^nice pictures of busuanga airport. im going there in a few months via 5J. I hope my plane wont get delayed.:nuts:

Noize_320

April 12th, 2009, 09:42 AM

IsaganiZenze

April 12th, 2009, 09:53 AM

^^nice pictures of busuanga airport. im going there in a few months via 5J. I hope my plane wont get delayed.:nuts:

i think you'll have a better chance of being on time than PAL Express....maybe we were just off season when we went, so they cancel the non-full flights.....

lightning099

April 12th, 2009, 09:57 AM

Iba, Zambales Municipal Airport

http://images.lightning099.multiply.com/image/1/photos/22/1200x1200/1/aIMG-1524.jpg?et=MABAcub553EO3i4qvJID7A&nmid=229959563

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kiretoce

April 12th, 2009, 10:00 AM

^^ Okay, the first three photos were just so freakin' hilarious! :hilarious

kiretoce

April 12th, 2009, 10:02 AM

btw, share ko lang...

Northwest Airlines in MNL last sunday...April 5, 2009

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/ca6a2041f725897bcc9d8625d592b7541239251585_full.jpg

probably the first/last i will see of this(?)

Yup, since NW's "redtails" will eventually be phased out (forever!) as DL completes it's takeover of their routes to Asia.

WawaY[625]

April 12th, 2009, 10:15 AM

may mga pangalan ng mga city ang PALex planes? :dunno:
:dunno:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/DSCF0226-1.jpg

bartstrife99

April 12th, 2009, 11:30 AM

Ramon Revilla Sr. :D

OO :lol:

mwg12a

April 12th, 2009, 11:32 AM

^^^ Senior pala, hindi na Nardong putik yon, Nardong burak na lang...LMAO

NightDog

April 12th, 2009, 12:33 PM

frequentflier

April 12th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Cebu Pacific A319 in Tagbilaran Airport
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/3434240986_0ee38b5f15.jpg?v=0

High Density Configuration
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3433434689_27be1fd2ba_o.jpg

Dreamtofly

April 12th, 2009, 01:52 PM

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from HFlight.net

i think that this is one of the coolest airports around.... something diffrent[/QUOTE]

Sana ganito yung Airport sa caticlan or sa palawan.

frequentflier

April 12th, 2009, 02:05 PM

United Airlines in MNL during the early 90's.
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v364/22/54/792353879/n792353879_928578_5076.jpg by: Carlos Morillo Dora from Airliners.net

jvl

April 12th, 2009, 02:11 PM

^Interesting.....

Yup, since NW's "redtails" will eventually be phased out (forever!) as DL completes it's takeover of their routes to Asia.

Good to know Delta will be the surviving entity.

Noize_320

April 12th, 2009, 03:01 PM

oh, i almost forgot...i got the chance to take a pic of the A320's cockpit~!

http://img2.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/b07191ca8f9fa418af939c2479c6dae91239014752_full.jpg

thanks to the captain who agreed to let me see it~ :D

WawaY[625]

April 12th, 2009, 03:19 PM

ang gandang airport!

http://www.hflight.net/blahdocs/uploads/usm4_7612.jpg

boom_box

April 12th, 2009, 03:25 PM

^^ uu nga... airport palang... parang nasa resort kana.. hehe

boom_box

April 12th, 2009, 03:33 PM

United Airlines in MNL during the early 90's.
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v364/22/54/792353879/n792353879_928578_5076.jpg by: Carlos Morillo Dora from Airliners.net

I never thought that United Airlines would fly in Manila back then with their 744.. :)
whats the reason they stop flying anyway..? Because of Northwest..?

48a0jmf0TOw

sairoangel

April 12th, 2009, 05:55 PM

High Density Configuration
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3433434689_27be1fd2ba_o.jpg[/QUOTE]
Pwede bang imove yung upuan?

mwg12a

April 13th, 2009, 12:36 AM

;35021290']ang gandang airport!

http://www.hflight.net/blahdocs/uploads/usm4_7612.jpg

I think this is in Fiji Island if not, US Samoan island. Very nice indeed. One of the places I wanted to be in.

kiretoce

April 13th, 2009, 12:40 AM

^^ Umm....Samui Airport is in Thailand. A private airport with both international and domestic terminals on Ko Samui Island.

kiretoce

April 13th, 2009, 12:58 AM

United Airlines in MNL during the early 90's.
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v364/22/54/792353879/n792353879_928578_5076.jpg by: Carlos Morillo Dora from Airliners.net

Yup, UA used to serve MNL on it's Asian route network. Sadly they had to terminate the route and have it served by its codeshare/alliance partners instead.

I never thought that United Airlines would fly in Manila back then with their 744. whats the reason they stop flying anyway..? Because of Northwest..?

UA can't compete with NW in Asia because it has already established itself since after WWII, and along with longevity is brand recognition and loyalty. Today, NW still is the dominant American carrier flying the trans-Pacific routes between Asia and the US mainland.

bitoy

April 13th, 2009, 03:44 AM

^^ Too bad Pan Am is gone, it was one of the pioneers in flight across the Pacific. My first flight on a 747 to Honolulu was with Pan AM. And the Stewardesses wear those hats and nice skirts... :lol:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2835232755_8af3f64186.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25653307@N03/)

http://scholar.library.miami.edu/panam/images/PA014.jpg

The China Clipper is anchored at a pier in Manila harbor, following its historic flight across the Pacific Ocean. Huge crowds lined the shore to catch a glimpse of the aircraft. The Manila Hotel can be seen in the background.

kiretoce

April 13th, 2009, 04:22 AM

^^ Yeah, I remember Pan-Am and TWA in MNL when I was still a kid back in the 1970s.

frequentflier

April 13th, 2009, 04:55 AM

High Density Configuration
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3433434689_27be1fd2ba_o.jpg
Pwede bang imove yung upuan?[/QUOTE]

yup. you can recline the seat but only a few inches. so taking a flight for more than one hour is really uncomfortable.:nuts:

frequentflier

April 13th, 2009, 04:57 AM

Yup, UA used to serve MNL on it's Asian route network. Sadly they had to terminate the route and have it served by its codeshare/alliance partners instead.

UA can't compete with NW in Asia because it has already established itself since after WWII, and along with longevity is brand recognition and loyalty. Today, NW still is the dominant American carrier flying the trans-Pacific routes between Asia and the US mainland.

I believe UA bought the rights to PanAm's transpacific routes.

mwg12a

April 13th, 2009, 08:39 AM

^^ Yeah, I remember Pan-Am and TWA in MNL when I was still a kid back in the 1970s.

TWA flew to Manila? I didn't know that, I know Pan-Am did. Too bad TWA doesn't exist anymore either.

kiretoce

April 13th, 2009, 09:11 AM

^^ Yup, TWA did fly to MNL before.

jvl

April 13th, 2009, 09:19 AM

^^ Yeah, I remember Pan-Am and TWA in MNL when I was still a kid back in the 1970s.

TWA flew to Manila? I didn't know that, I know Pan-Am did. Too bad TWA doesn't exist anymore either.

Lesson learned: Goes to show that the older generation knows more than the younger one. :lol:

Pan-Am reminds me of that Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hanks movie.

absinthe_888

April 13th, 2009, 09:28 AM

^^ Catch Me If You Can? Leo starring as Frank Abagnale :lol: sorry, OT.

mucho

April 13th, 2009, 10:00 AM

i think that this is one of the coolest airports around.... something diffrent

Sana ganito yung Airport sa caticlan or sa palawan.[/QUOTE]

how i wish too that caticlan & palawan airports would be as nice as this one... this is one of a kind airport.....

kiretoce

April 13th, 2009, 10:03 AM

^^ But then, if we follow (mimic) it, it wouldn't be "one of a kind" anymore. ;)

Dreamtofly

April 13th, 2009, 10:43 AM

^^ But then, if we follow (mimic) it, it wouldn't be "one of a kind" anymore. ;)

We can mimic it with filipino touch and style. or something na pilipino. bounf pinas i mean. not by region ok.

"ZukiChirO"

April 13th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Airline, cruise firms to lift RP tourism
By Lawrence Agcaoili

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Costa_Classica.jpg
Tourism Secretary Ace Durano said the bullish transport sector in the Philippines would play a key role in boosting the arrival of tourists in the country this year.

Durano cited the expansion activities of airlines, including those of Philippine Airlines of tobacco and airline magnate Lucio Tan, John Gokongwei’s Cebu Pacific, and the entry of Europe’s leading cruise company.

“We are confident that despite the challenges, we can expect a big volume of arrivals this year, as already indicated by initial reports of our partner stakeholders in the transport sector,” he said.

Philippine Airlines opened additional flights to local summer destinations led by Boracay and Busuanga and international routes such as Vancouver, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Cebu Pacific, meanwhile, registered a 28 percent growth in passenger volume to 1.97 million in the first three months of the year.

Durano added that Costa Cruises of Europe had announced the launch of its new ship plying the Philippine route.

Costa Cruises recently launched Costa Classica to double its trips to the Far East. Costa Classica will make calls on the port of Manila in October, seeking to increase its scheduled visits to the country by 43 percent.

Durano said Holland America Line also met with him recently to discuss the MS Volendam’s itinerary in the Philippines this month.

“We are exploring proposals with MS Volendam to augment the frequency of their trips to the country, as they carry European tourists mostly from the high-spending segment,” said Durano.

The Tourism Department expects foreign tourist arrivals to stay this year due to the global economic meltdown.

“The growth outlook for 2009 will continue to be weighed down by the contraction of outbound travel in key source markets. A zero to 1.9 percent growth for 2009 is likely, largely depending on the recovery of source markets,” the department said.

Foreign tourist arrivals in the Philippines last year inched up 1.5 percent to 3.14 million with its top traditional markets declining.

:cheers::cheers:

arianespace

April 13th, 2009, 03:33 PM

^^
The Japanese connection on US airlines operating in the Philippines (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/04/japanese-connection-on-us-airlines-in.html)

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v364/22/54/792353879/n792353879_928578_5076.jpg

In the 90's United Airlines used to grace the Philippine skies by flying to the mainland US via Japan and Guam but because of the new aviation treaty between Japan and USA in 1998 it removed United's fifth freedom right and Japan was the most lucrative route with plenty of premium passengers. And bless with its geography, Japanese hub in the Asia Pacific region is essential for its survival.

As you may know, only 3 carriers has fifth freedom rights out of Japan, Northwest, United and Fedex per 1952 aviation treaty. Essentially, these three U.S. carriers compete in the Japanese market on a level playing field with their counterparts, Japanese Airlines (JAL), these airlines are known as "incumbent" carriers in the industry.

Northwest has been an incumbent airline since the agreement's inception. United gained incumbent rights when it purchased Pan Am's entire Pacific division in 1985. Federal Express received incumbent rights by acquiring the privileges from the cargo carrier Flying Tigers in 1989. United Airlines entry to the Philippines started with the end of Pan Am's Pacific operations.

http://scholar.library.miami.edu/panam/images/PA014.jpg

Arguably, PAN AM is the first international airline in the Philippines having started operations in 1942 followed by British Cathay Pacific and Qantas in 1947 and Northwest Airlines in 1952. Currently, Northwest is the oldest operating international airline in the Philippines.

The United States has approached smaller countries in the Asian market like the Philippines in hopes of pressuring Japan into agreeing to negotiate an open skies agreement. The underlying goals of open skies agreements with the smaller Asian nations include not only providing better air service to Asia, but also sending a warning signal to Japan that it may lose its prominent hub status as other countries become accessible to U.S. carriers.

But the Philippine carrier, Philippine Airlines has problems of its own which it wants the government to protect. The government response of further suspension of treaty with the US ended in 1994 and the last remaining hope of Philippine airlines to balance US carriers domination is the Japanese treaty.

Still, Japan is pivotal to the entire Asian aviation market, and it is aware that it has a great deal of leverage from the fact that Japan's gross domestic product remains greater than the combined value of all the countries with whom the United States has reached open skies agreements.

Northwest would have wanted direct flights but management decisions call for it to follow the "hub and spoke system" of operations because it was the most efficient, so the theory said so, until chapter 11 went their way, as the story goes.

Going back to my story, the Unites States wanted an open skies agreement with Japan so that more of its carrier can fly to the Philippines. Japan refused this time. Japan refused wide open skies except for one designated airline.

In January, 1998, the United States and Japan reached a compromise four-year framework agreement. The pact guaranteed incumbent carriers the same rights they had acquired under the 1952 agreement.The allowance for code-sharing agreements, one of the last major stumbling blocks to an agreement, took a creative solution. At the United States' request, Japan readily agreed to allow for all alliances between U.S. and Japanese carriers.

In closing, United Airlines suspension of service to the Philippines was not at all related to 1998 agreement but due to its financial difficulty made more difficult by 2001 attack on the World Trade Center. Eventually, it filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection in December 2002. Even Northwest was forced to merged with rival Delta Airlines to survive in the airline industry in 2008.

But it saved United Airlines status and operations in Japan by cutting cost, and that is pulling the plug to Manila, one of its unprofitable route. It finally suspended operation to the Philippines on February 20, 1998, ending Pan Am's legacy to the country.

frequentflier

April 13th, 2009, 03:44 PM

^^sayang talaga yung UA. pero ang dami pa rin nilang routes sa SEA. BKK, Vietnam, SIN. Very lucrative ang BKK flight kasi palagi kaming fully booked. HKG is also very lucrative.

habagatcentral1

April 13th, 2009, 04:55 PM

I so hate that manong last Black Saturday on a CebuPacific Flight bound for Iloilo.

While the airline was taxiing towards the terminal, the stewardess as always advised their passengers to refrain getting their hand held bags in the over-head compartments in both English and Filipino, but one guy out of pure stupidity, opened the over-head compartment and get his bags...pinagsabihan na sya ng stewardess 2x pero di nakinig...nilapitan at itoy pinagsabihan...pero ng umalis ang stewardess, binuksan uli...nagalit ang mga pasahero at halos magalit ang stewardess sa ginawa ng mama pero minemaintain na lang nila ang poise...

Galit ang mga pasahero sa katangahang ginawa ng mama, napahiya sya.

Is this pure stupidity or what?! Safety reminders were set on 2 languages and the passengers reprimanded the manong...stupid, just stupid!

Sya din yung umalis sa upuan para mag-CR while the seat-belt light was on earlier on that flight...naka-incline pa ang eroplano on a take-off position...

Noize_320

April 13th, 2009, 05:00 PM

Ph Man

April 13th, 2009, 05:32 PM

I wonder why some people are always on the haste to reunite with their handcarry bags they put in the cabin.

^^sayang talaga yung UA. pero ang dami pa rin nilang routes sa SEA. BKK, Vietnam, SIN. Very lucrative ang BKK flight kasi palagi kaming fully booked. HKG is also very lucrative.

do you work for UA?

some UA photos...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2979603618_a0971dcb3c.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2979614704_4e9068b10b.jpg

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 06:19 PM

^^sayang talaga yung UA. pero ang dami pa rin nilang routes sa SEA. BKK, Vietnam, SIN. Very lucrative ang BKK flight kasi palagi kaming fully booked. HKG is also very lucrative.

Thailand is a tourist hotspot, while Hong Kong is arguably the business and pleasure capital of SEA.

Kelan papalitan ang livery ng NWA? I hope they replace/retire those old snubbish flight attendants as well.

seven13

April 13th, 2009, 06:21 PM

I like the current UA livery.
Natandaan ko before na pupunta kame sa Tokyo, and we had NWA from MNL, then yung cousins ko + 2 of my siblings had UA for their flight to Tokyo. 1996 ata yun

kalbongdad

April 13th, 2009, 06:24 PM

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 06:42 PM

^Wala bang OL shopping sa UA website? Dun mo gamitin miles mo... :)

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 06:50 PM

I think both are satisfactory. The drawback for Sangley is huge money for reclamation while that of Fernando Airbase is nearness to Taal Volcano (actually the whole lake is the caldera of a giant volcano). Both are expandables and pretty much accessible with a better Coastal Road for the former and the renovated SLEX for the latter though.

Well, DMIA has Pinatubo...

I like Sangley better since it is much closer to NCR and most Eco-zones, compared to DMIA. It is very much expandable and easily accessible given enough funds for infrastructure.

We can emulate the trend in Japan where new airports are literally in the middle of the sea, complete with access road and rail.

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 08:11 PM

Passenger lands plane in Fla. after pilot dies (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PASSENGER_LANDS_PLANE?SITE=KLIF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)
Associated Press

FORT MYERS, Fla. – A passenger landed a twin-engine plane in Florida after the pilot died in flight with a total of six people on board.

Federal Aviation Administration officials say the pilot died after takeoff from an airport in Naples on Sunday. It was on autopilot and climbing toward 10,000 feet when the pilot died.

The passenger who took over is licensed for single-engine planes but isn't certified to fly the larger King Air craft.

An air traffic controller helped the passenger down by calling a friend in Connecticut who knows the King Air plane and relaying instructions. The plane landed safely at Southwest Florida International Airport in Fort Myers.

The plane had been headed to Jackson, Miss. The names of the pilot and passengers have not been released.

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 09:07 PM

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Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 09:10 PM

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manila_eye

April 13th, 2009, 09:19 PM

Well, DMIA has Pinatubo...

I like Sangley better since it is much closer to NCR and most Eco-zones, compared to DMIA. It is very much expandable and easily accessible given enough funds for infrastructure.

We can emulate the trend in Japan where new airports are literally in the middle of the sea, complete with access road and rail.

You should also consider the fact that DMIA has already started its construction/plan for expansion. Developing Sangley at this time would be costly... would be disposed families living in the area would also jack up the cost. Of course, the possibility is always there.

Lucentino

April 13th, 2009, 09:22 PM

^My comment was a case of "it would have been"... :)

habagatcentral1

April 13th, 2009, 10:40 PM

^^ Hebigat nito.,...is the gov't agency informing the public that CamSur and Daraga are 2 possible sites for the airport OR they are just simply wrong with their geography 101? :?

FlashCollider

April 14th, 2009, 03:58 AM

Good strategy for the government to mitigate the effect of the financial crisis. Increase spending for infra-projects.

Lucentino

April 14th, 2009, 04:57 AM

^^ Hebigat nito.,...is the gov't agency informing the public that CamSur and Daraga are 2 possible sites for the airport OR they are just simply wrong with their geography 101? :?

Napansin mo ba? Maybe its meant to serve those areas (palusot)... :lol:

I think it is being started or will be started in Daraga, Albay.

mwg12a

April 14th, 2009, 11:16 AM

You should also consider the fact that DMIA has already started its construction/plan for expansion. Developing Sangley at this time would be costly... would be disposed families living in the area would also jack up the cost. Of course, the possibility is always there.

DMIA will equally be expensive since the current highways connecting DMIA is still far from the capital city, it maybe closer to Quezon city but the travel time is not less than 1hr or atleast 45 mins. Building a rail system would be nice but that would be costly. I believe it there would be very little difference between the two when it comes to expenses. I don't oppose DMIA expansion and be used for future Main gateway to the Philippines. I was just saying the cost would not be much of a difference considering Cavite do needs a better roadways in that area and the coastal road would be the only answer to that and LRT/MRT system. I don't think there would be alot of families that may be displaced, possibly the illegal settlers. But when the land is reclaimed, the expansion in outward and not inward that would affect very many families. That's just my opinion. And also, whether DMIA is developed and Sangley is turned into the next NAIA, I don't think it would hurt it.

pthfndr19

April 14th, 2009, 11:30 AM

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/838/slide3j.jpg

^^ Bkit may bundok sa dulo ng runway? malayo ba yan? hehe

medviation

April 14th, 2009, 12:54 PM

frequentflier

April 14th, 2009, 01:10 PM

I wonder why some people are always on the haste to reunite with their handcarry bags they put in the cabin.

do you work for UA?

some UA photos...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2979603618_a0971dcb3c.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2979614704_4e9068b10b.jpg

i dont directly work for united but we support www.united.com and united.ca together with united reservations.:)

frequentflier

April 14th, 2009, 01:13 PM

in my case meron pa naman akong 65k na airmiles sa ua....nde ko nagagamit hanggang ngayon...nag expire na ata...sa tagal.....dahil pwede ko lang magamit sa continental flights or sa asian destination lang na meron route ang ua....

sayang naman. where are you located now? if you're in the u.s, just call this number 1-800-4214655. thats the mileage plus support desk. they could help you reinstate the miles if its expired or if not, just give me your MP number and i'll do my magic. :lol: pwede ka rin magshopping ng merchandise online.

hikouki

April 14th, 2009, 03:07 PM

Any news about the 777s that 5J is buying/ leasing from SQ?

According to SQTalk, all of the SQ 777s already have buyers/ new owners:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6799
(reply # 3 on that thread)

mwg12a

April 14th, 2009, 05:27 PM

Kelan papalitan ang livery ng NWA? I hope they replace/retire those old snubbish flight attendants as well.

Probably not gonna happen..LOL DL wouldn't want to be sued for discrimination. I think mas nasusungitan ako sa ilang pinay na FA ng NWA sa Japan- Manila leg ng flights nila. Although, i've encountered a one heavy set black FA once na masungit... Pero sana nga...he he

Lucentino

April 14th, 2009, 07:47 PM

^Yup, specially the Tokyo-Manila route. As for the Japan-DTW and vise versa, FA's are friendly at first, but... sabagay long haul kasi. :lol:

The FA's Manila to Nagoya, ok naman... saka meron cute dun kaso lang bihira ko na makita. :ohno:

Lucentino

April 14th, 2009, 07:54 PM

^Yeah, Sangley... "it would have been" the best compliment to NAIA & MNL.

Lucentino

April 14th, 2009, 08:51 PM

Delta and Northwest Merger (http://www.dtmdeparture.com/news.htm)
Just the Basic Facts Please!

http://www.dtmdeparture.com/images/pics/nwa_delta_merger.jpg

Combined, the "company" and its regional partners will provide access to more than 390 destinations in 67 countries. Delta and Northwest, together, will have more than $35 billion in aggregate annual revenues, operate a mainline fleet of nearly 800 aircraft and employ approximately 75,000 people worldwide.

http://images.publicradio.org/content/2008/02/10/20080210_nwa_delta_busiest_routes_33.jpg
Source (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/02/14/_nwa_delta_merger/?rsssource=1)

http://www.connectmidmichigan.com/uploadedImages/weyi/News/Stories/delta%20northwest.jpg

kiretoce

April 15th, 2009, 03:23 AM

http://www.dtmdeparture.com/images/pics/nwa_delta_merger.jpg

Don't know if you guys noticed it, but DL's widget is pointing "northwest." ;) Very subtle of them to leave something that still harkens back to NW. :okay:

Lucentino

April 15th, 2009, 04:11 AM

^But the backside of that stabilizer points the other way...

Just like this one here:
http://nwa.com/features/smcclead/Delta_Gold_Bus_Web_A.gif

:lol:

kiretoce

April 15th, 2009, 04:26 AM

^^ It always does. The reverse is always a mirror image of the obverse. :colgate:

Case in point: The widget on the tail and on the plane's fuselage isn't pointing in the northwesterly direction.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/NWA_747-400_at_NRT.jpg/800px-NWA_747-400_at_NRT.jpg

Lucentino

April 15th, 2009, 05:11 AM

^^ It always does. The reverse is always a mirror image of the obverse. :colgate:

Roger on that! :okay:

Case in point: The widget on the tail and on the plane's fuselage isn't pointing in the northwesterly direction.

An optical illusion(?), but I think it does point NW... kindly look at the way of the upper left corner of the triangle and you will see... :)

kiretoce

April 15th, 2009, 05:18 AM

An optical illusion(?), but I think it does point NW... kindly look at the way of the upper left corner of the triangle and you will see... :)

You have a point there. It's a cognitive type of an optical illusion. :okay:

habagatcentral1

April 15th, 2009, 12:22 PM

Sharing a 180 degree panorama pic

New Iloilo Airport Pre-Departure Area
Iloilo, Philippines
13 April 2009
SCROLL TO RIGHT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/panoramairport.jpg

mhek

April 15th, 2009, 12:59 PM

^^ kala ko naia t2, ganda ah.

kalbongdad

April 15th, 2009, 03:14 PM

sayang naman. where are you located now? if you're in the u.s, just call this number 1-800-4214655. thats the mileage plus support desk. they could help you reinstate the miles if its expired or if not, just give me your MP number and i'll do my magic. :lol: pwede ka rin magshopping ng merchandise online.

am in the philippines at the moment.....before i usually visit their site to make sure that my mileage will not expire sa tagal na nde ako nakaka pag update malamang nawala na ito....i will try to look for my number and will try to coordinate with you.....sayang naman....:lol: who knows your magic might just work....

Noize_320

April 15th, 2009, 03:49 PM

5J A319 on approach

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/9e71e05d80c165bf9fb16f239472c1561239762413_full.jpg

PAF OV-10As on practice runs

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/0675e4d664cf765e9f03de0e10ada8381239762755_full.jpg

http://img2.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/9ed4ce9433fe86d5b0a0bad1c82a60ff1239763350_full.jpg

PAL A330

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/6df21256d74aa37254b08604466cadb01239764291_full.jpg

:)

habagatcentral1

April 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM

Zest Air & Makati Skyline
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Cebu Pacific Air A320
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/0/photos/357/600x600/2/NAIAT356.jpg?et=QhudBM1iPcc8vKhUx6zoeg&nmid=231328765

PAL Express Q400 "Davao"
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PAL Express Q400 "Bacolod"
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Almost Holding Hands (Airbus A320 of 6K and 5J)
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/0/photos/357/600x600/6/NAIAT347.jpg?et=RXMAVO8dLTOHzVhTf%2Cb6lA&nmid=231328765

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There she goes
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InterIsland Airways
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Manila Domestic Terminal
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Zest Air A320
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CebuPacific Air A320
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/0/photos/357/600x600/12/NAIAT345.jpg?et=m6TQZzO%2CfcrwMCCeV3c0sQ&nmid=231328765

habagatcentral1

April 15th, 2009, 04:50 PM

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Aerobridges
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PAL Express Q400
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Cebu Pacific Air A320 from Cagayan de Oro
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/0/photos/357/600x600/24/NAIAT318.jpg?et=idhm2bHp3UVY0HG2Uio0kQ&nmid=231328765

PAL Express Q300 from Caticlan (Boracay)
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Zest Air MA-640
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Cebu Pacifc Air A320
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SeAir Dornier
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