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pthfndr19
July 15th, 2009, 02:06 AM
CAAP tightens security in EV airports
abs-cbnNEWS.com | 07/15/2009 1:04 AM


TACLOBAN CITY - After the series of bombings in Mindanao, the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) in Eastern Visayas has intensified security measures in airports in the region.

It is in Tacloban DZR Airport however that security has been tightened further since it is the main airport in the region. An estimated thousand passengers use the facility daily.

“We already limited people entering the terminal building. We also made sure that everything is checked especially the baggage and luggage,” said engineer Sergio Sumergido, CAAP manager.

Other airports in the region which are open to commercial flights are the Catarman, Calbayog, Borongan and Ormoc airports.

as of 07/15/2009 1:28 AM

swahi
July 15th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Mayron Boeing 737-300 series nag emergency sa West Virginia galing sa Tennessee dahil nay butas sa fuselage skin by the dorsal fin kasing laki ng football ball. Everybody are safe. :ohno:

Also in the news, a caspian airliner crashes, everybody feared dead. 2009 seems to be a black record year for airline disasters...:ohno:

quannar
July 15th, 2009, 06:11 PM
Caspian Airlines Flight 7908 was a scheduled commercial flight from Tehran, Iran, to Yerevan, Armenia, that crashed near the village of Jannatabad, outside the city of Qazvin in north-western Iran, on 15 July 2009. All 153 passengers and 15 crew (168 in total) on board have been reported as dead. The aircraft was a Tupolev Tu-154M being operated by Iran's Caspian Airlines, a spokesman for Iran's aviation agency reports:ohno::ohno::ohno:

courtes of Wikipedia

bOrN2BwILd
July 16th, 2009, 04:26 AM
^^:ohno: may they rest in peace :(

Franz-Bxu
July 16th, 2009, 09:14 AM
The aircraft equipment was a Russian-made Tupolev TU-154M. ^^

IsaganiZenze
July 16th, 2009, 09:58 AM
Just watched National Geographic's Air Crash Investigations...and boy Indonesia's got a lot of issues when it comes to safety records from European Union. I wonder how EU perceives The Philippines' aviation industry though?

I just read in the WSJ that they will be lifting the ban on Garuda; so that's good news for Indonesia, I think they mentioned that Garuda will be expanding towards europe as soon as it's lifted...haven't heard anything about EU's perception on the Philippines aviation industry though, but I'm sure it's good...

Franz-Bxu
July 16th, 2009, 10:06 AM
Philippine Airlines has a good reputation to aviation safety :okay:

arianespace
July 16th, 2009, 12:20 PM
^^
I just read in the WSJ that they will be lifting the ban on Garuda; so that's good news for Indonesia, I think they mentioned that Garuda will be expanding towards europe as soon as it's lifted...haven't heard anything about EU's perception on the Philippines aviation industry though, but I'm sure it's good...

Why would we even care about it when are fine with EASA. Its the FAA crap! That is the problem.

And by the way, we are miles ahead to Indonesia in regulatory policies. It just that we missed some important aspects of our obligation in the ICAO treaty that causes the downgrading.

To be fair with FAA, we were given plenty of time to correct the deficiency, almost 10 years to be frank about it, but it seems our politicians were very busy bickering with charter change and foreign travel coupled with the fact that our aviation managers were headed by incompetent political appointees who knew nothing better than helping the President win elections.

Talking about FAA, I have a good news and a bad news.

First, the good news. GMA will be discussing the FAA issue with not so keen Obama in Washington. A PAL official is rumored to be with her on this trip although that is not yet confirmed as the palace said that its just a private affair.

The bad news is, Did we comply enough what they require of us that they will temporarily lift it?

Word is that GMA wants the US to lift it pending compliance. Well, they have done that before at the time of El Tobaco. They were hoping it to be her swan song to the aviation industry before she leaves office.

Well Good lucK :cheers:

chris_nigel
July 16th, 2009, 07:58 PM
wala na tayong presidential plane d ba? kailan ba nawala yun?

alcogoodwin
July 17th, 2009, 04:02 AM
PAL’s Caticlan flights moved to Kalibo airport

Lucio C. Tan-led Philippine Airlines (PAL) has transferred all flights to and from Caticlan airport to Kalibo, Aklan, following the lead of budget carrier Cebu Pacific.

In a statement, PAL said it would increase its all-jet service to Kalibo, Aklan to accommodate passengers affected by the suspension of budget unit PAL Express’ direct flights to Caticlan, the entry point to the resort island of Boracay.

Starting Monday, PAL’s service to Kalibo will be thrice-daily, departing Manila morning, noon, and afternoon, using Airbus A320 aircraft.

PAL Express will continue to check-in all Caticlan-bound passengers at the NAIA Terminal 3 in Manila but the Q300 turboprop aircraft will land on Kalibo instead, the airline said. As such, passengers booked on PAL Express flights to Caticlan can take any of the three regular flights to Kalibo. PAL will provide free bus rides to and from Caticlan.

PAL Express’ Cebu-Caticlan flight will also be re-routed to Kalibo, still using the Q300 aircraft.

Mojacko
July 17th, 2009, 04:06 AM
wala na tayong presidential plane d ba? kailan ba nawala yun?

Actually, the Philippine Air Force still has 3 planes specially assigned for Presidential airlift: a Fokker F-28 jet, a LearJet 60, and some (I don't know what model) turboprop. These are mostly used for ferrying the President around the provinces - with the turboprop handling smaller airports unable to accommodate the LearJet or F-28.

For trips abroad, especially longer ones, the President would specially charter Philippine Airlines' planes - usually an A319 or A320 for the shortest flights (say, within Asia), an A330 for medium-haul trips (not continuing to longer-distance points - for instance, to Australia, NZ, or the Middle East, then returning to Manila), and either a 747-400* or A340 for the longest-haul trips (Europe, and North and South America - or trips which start from a nearer point then continuing to a further one). In those cases, the PAL plane and flight - when ferrying the President - is designated as PR001 - Philippine zero-zero-one (add "Heavy" for 747*, 330, and 343).

* - Because Philippine Airlines' 747 fleet is limited in number and are primarily prioritized for their MNL-LAX-v.v. and MNL-SFO-v.v. passenger flights, the longest-haul trips ferrying the President are more often - if not necessarily always - flown by an A340.

chris_nigel
July 17th, 2009, 05:04 AM
wala talaga tayo gaya ng airforce one na sariling 747 for international flights sana bumili na sya tutal mahilg naman sya mamasyal sa abroad eh

Sky Harbor
July 17th, 2009, 05:40 AM
^^ Expect her travel expenses, which are already expensive enough, to skyrocket.

weewit
July 17th, 2009, 10:12 AM
I accidentally happen to be with the pres on the same flight..(lucky?) from LA to Manila. I used my miles for an upgrade to business class. my cousin and I was surprised that we stayed in the 2nd deck and boarding was really very slow, despite being in higher class.. we can see on our window lines of police cars and vans lining up the tarmac. well that was before 911. yung mga staff nila, including the president ay nasa baba ng plane. nasa taas lang with us are Bunye, Remonde and few i dont know. when the plane landed in Manila, nakita pa namin ang mga banda and everything.. heheheh I dont think lahat ng mga pasahero dun are part of her entourage. im not part of her entourage. so i presume they dont charter flight all the time. and one more thing, that was the only time i feel so safe riding a plane.. di dapat ma palpak ang PAL heheheh

OceanBreezeInn
July 17th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Kalibo airport soon to cater to 9 int'l flights


The Kalibo International Airport (KIA) will soon serve nine direct international flights weekly, according to the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP)-Kalibo.

CAAP-Kalibo manager Engr. Percy Malonesio said that a direct plane flight from Seoul, South Korea will be landing again in the airport on July 27.

The China Eastern Airlines is also expected to land at the KIA soon.

“Aside from these flights, the Mandarin Airline still continue to land in Kalibo directly from Taipei in Taiwan,” said Malonesio.

Most of the passengers are bound to Boracay Island.

The CAAP-Manila has restricted the landing of airlines to the nearby Caticlan Airport because of the short runway posing risk to the passengers. Because of this, other airline companies such as the Cebu Pacific, Zest Air and the Philippine Airlines have rerouted their passengers to the KIA.

Only the Southeast Airlines (SEAIR) is allowed by the CAAP to land in Caticlan Airport.

Airline companies that rerouted their flights to KIA have provided free shuttle facilities for tourists bound to Boracay.


Source: thenewstoday (http://www.thenewstoday.info/2009/07/16/kalibo.airport.soon.to.cater.to.9.intl.flights.html)

Sky Harbor
July 17th, 2009, 04:18 PM
^^ Hopefully KLO will have the facilities to handle all those international flights. If not, those flights are better off going to ILO, with shuttles between MPH and ILO at scheduled times within the day.

Sky Harbor
July 17th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Anyway, moving on.

I'll plug my first trip report on FlyerTalk here on SSC for people's perusal. Finally, after two months of getting all of it in order, I finally finished it. Here you go:

(No) Bombs on Asia's Sunniest: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL on Philippine Airlines (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/974995-no-bombs-asias-sunniest-mnl-ceb-nrt-ceb-mnl-pr.html)

Enjoy. :D

habagatcentral1
July 17th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Anyway, moving on.

I'll plug my first trip report on FlyerTalk here on SSC for people's perusal. Finally, after two months of getting all of it in order, I finally finished it. Here you go:

(No) Bombs on Asia's Sunniest: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL on Philippine Airlines (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/974995-no-bombs-asias-sunniest-mnl-ceb-nrt-ceb-mnl-pr.html)

Enjoy. :D

PR434? :colgate:

Sky Harbor
July 17th, 2009, 05:49 PM
^^ Exactly. :D

ianers_ianized
July 18th, 2009, 07:15 AM
ZEST AIR's BRAND NEW A320 ARRIVES
Airline become new Airbus customer
12 July 2009
Zest Air's third Airbus is expected to arrive today at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark.
Zest Air placed an order with Airbus for its first brand new single aisle A320.
The aircraft will join an existing fleet of two A320s that the airline purchased in the open market in 2008.
http://www.zestair.com.ph/images/new_airbus320.jpg

Ambassador Alfredo M. Yao president and CEO of Zest Air said: "With our plans to expand our operation to the Southeast Asian region, it becomes necessary to grow our fleet size.
Our A320s provide our passengers with added space and comfort and have proven to be reliable and operate at cost efficient levels."
"We are pleased to welcome Zest Air as a new Airbus customer," said John Leahy, Airbus chief operating officer - customers.
"With the lowest operating costs in its class and the highest levels of passenger comfort, the A320 will position Zest Air well to offer competitive and profitable service on its growing route network."
Zest Air currently serves a network of 20 destinations across the Philippines.
With the delivery of its newly ordered aircraft, the airline will extend its network to international destinations in Southeast Asia.
^^

The in'tl expansion is the answer why they are transferring to T3 later this year...

GreenPeas
July 18th, 2009, 01:03 PM
http://www.zestair.com.ph/images/all_year_round_promo_fare.gif

Clark to HK soon!

habagatcentral1
July 18th, 2009, 06:16 PM
^^ Parang di masyadong accessible ang Makati office nila. Medyo pahirapan papunta jan lalo na't trikes lang ang accessible sa Yakal Street.

tigidig14
July 18th, 2009, 07:24 PM
Anyway, moving on.

I'll plug my first trip report on FlyerTalk here on SSC for people's perusal. Finally, after two months of getting all of it in order, I finally finished it. Here you go:

(No) Bombs on Asia's Sunniest: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL on Philippine Airlines (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/974995-no-bombs-asias-sunniest-mnl-ceb-nrt-ceb-mnl-pr.html)

Enjoy. :D

galing:)ang haba LOL
so, bat di ka na lang pala dumerecha sa MNL, bat dumaan ka pa ng cebu, mula narita

Sky Harbor
July 18th, 2009, 08:13 PM
^^ Real Deal promo fares for Tokyo were only valid out of Cebu and not Manila.

pthfndr19
July 18th, 2009, 08:41 PM
^^ Parang di masyadong accessible ang Makati office nila. Medyo pahirapan papunta jan lalo na't trikes lang ang accessible sa Yakal Street.

Madali lang puntahan yan... malapit lang yan sa Makati Central Police and Central Fire Stations... pwedeng lakarin galing sa kanto ng Ayala at Buendia. (RCBC Plaza / Makati Centrl Post Office).:cheers:

kiretoce
July 18th, 2009, 10:33 PM
Parang di masyadong accessible ang Makati office nila. Medyo pahirapan papunta jan lalo na't trikes lang ang accessible sa Yakal Street.

You have feet. Use them. ;)

habagatcentral1
July 19th, 2009, 03:25 AM
You have feet. Use them. ;)
Kakatamad...argh! :hahano:
:lol:

Anyway, they're really that not easily accessible unlike that of PAL and CebuPac and if you're not familiar with the place, you'll get lost. But at least that's Yakal...familiar place for me coz its near where SSC meets have some EBs back then. It's just it's not located in Ayala or Salcedo/Legaspi itself.

Sky Harbor
July 19th, 2009, 07:05 AM
^^ It's accessible for me too. :D

The Makati office however is much better than their office in Cubao.

habagatcentral1
July 19th, 2009, 07:30 AM
^^ Kasi kayo di masyadong dumedepende sa EDSA tulad namin....:lol: :nocrook: Kidding! :lol:

Anyway, I hope they could have more branches....I think Domestic Terminal is the more accessible to me in my vantage point.

a s i a n a
July 19th, 2009, 09:45 AM
^^ Real Deal promo fares for Tokyo were only valid out of Cebu and not Manila.

I saw your TR in FT. You forgot to remove the pic with your name in the ticket.

Sky Harbor
July 19th, 2009, 10:02 AM
^^ My name was already made public through Wikipedia, so I don't really care much about it. Besides, they don't know my middle name. :lol:

Anyway, I do have blanked versions here. Maybe I'll replace them, or I'll do that in future TRs.

Dreamtofly
July 19th, 2009, 12:02 PM
Pinabilis na check-in time sa NAIA
07/11/2009 | 06:26 PM

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MANILA – May bagong sistema na gagamitin sa Terminals 1 at 2 ng Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) na inaasahang makatutulong ng malaki para mapabilis ang pag-check-in ng mga pasahero sa paliparan.

Itiitigil na ang paggamit sa Terminal 1 at 2 ng NAIA sa lumang sistema na magnetic tape technology kung saan kailangan pang mano-manong tipahin ng kawani sa NAIA ang pangalan at flight details ng aalis na pasahero.

Sa halip, gagamit ang NAIA ng mas modernong 2D bar code system kung saan kailangan lamang i-scan ang “strip of lines" sa airline ticket at pasaporte, at marerehistro na ang detalye tungkol sa papaalis na pasahero.

"Under the new system, the check-in process for passengers will be cut to less than two minutes from the original five minutes," paliwanag ni Octavio “Bing" Lina, assistant general manager for operations of the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) sa GMANews.TV.

Idinagdag naman ni Tirso Serrano, MIAA Assistant General Manager, na makatutulong din ang bagong sistema para mabawasan ang panahon na itinatagal ng pasahero sa pagpila.

Sinabi ni Lina na ang paggamit ng NAIA sa bagong 2D bar code system ay itinatakda rin ng International Air Transport Association (IATA) at dapat umanong ipatupad ng buong industriya pagsapit ng 2010.

"The shift to the New Common Use Check-In System will also make the NAIA on a par “with the world class airports such as the airports in Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau and Guam," ayon sa pahayag ng MIAA.

Ang mga gamit para sa bagong sistema ay ipagkakaloob ng ARINC Inc., isa sa mga kumpanya nasa ilalim ng pamamahala ng Carlyle Group. Ibinigay sa ARINC ang tatlong taong kontrata para sa international flight at passenger operations sa NAIA, kung saan kabilang sa ipagkakaloob nilang serbisyo ang 24/7 maintenance service.

Pinalitan ng ARINC ang serbisyong ibinigay ng SITA (Société Internationale de Télécommunications Aéronautiques). - RJA Basilio Jr., GMANews.TV

Rodel
July 19th, 2009, 12:19 PM
zest air @ the mnl domestic airport
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/rhodel2000/Bohol/100_2703.jpg

FrancisXavier
July 19th, 2009, 02:37 PM
pag nagtetake off ang 5J sa runway parallel to T3, di kaya malipad ang mga tiny birds na yan?

Rodel
July 19th, 2009, 02:57 PM
pag nagtetake off ang 5J sa runway parallel to T3, di kaya malipad ang mga tiny birds na yan?

:lol::lol::lol:

Hard Ball
July 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM
:ohno::ohno::ohno:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20090719-216220/Kalibo-airport-closed-16-flights-cancelled

By Jerome Aning
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:52:00 07/19/2009

Filed Under: Air Transport


MANILA, Philippines -- At least 16 flights to and from Kalibo in Aklan province were cancelled on Sunday, following the closure of the runway at the Kalibo Airport, the Manila International Airport Authority said in three separate advisories issued late Sunday afternoon.

Cancelled were three Kalibo-bound flights of Zest Air, namely Flights Z2-875, Z2-883 and Z2-897, all of which were supposed to depart the Ninoy Aquino International Airport at 2:20 p.m., 3:40 p.m. and 4 p.m. on Sunday. Three return flights to Manila, Z2-874, Z2-882 and Z2-896 -- scheduled to arrive at NAIA at 4 p.m., 6:20 p.m. and 6:40 p.m. respectively -- were also cancelled.

Also cancelled were four flights of Philippine Airlines, namely PR-324, PR-325 and PR-326, which were supposed to leave NAIA at 3:45 p.m., 4:05 p.m. and 6:30 p.m., respectively. Another flight, PR-323, left NAIA at 1:07 a.m. but was diverted to Iloilo airport and was now on its way back to Manila.

Seven Kalibo-bound Cebu Pacific flights were also cancelled, 5J-341, 5J-343 and 5J-345, set to leave NAIA 3 at 3:30 p.m., 4:25 p.m. and 5:10 p.m. on Sunday. Three return flights to Manila, 5J-338, 5J-342, 5J-344 and 5J-346 -- the last three which were to arrive early Sunday evening -- were also cancelled.

The MIAA did not state the reason behind the runway closure.

The Kalibo airport has seen busy operations beginning last week after being designated the destination of extra flights from PAL, Cebu Pacific, and other major airlines that were protesting new airport guidelines being implemented in neighboring Caticlan airport in Aklan.

shytype
July 19th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Kalibo airport closes due to damaged runway

abs-cbnNEWS.com | 07/19/2009 8:33 PM



MANILA - Several flights to Kalibo, Aklan on Sunday were cancelled due to problems at the Kalibo airport's runway.

The Kalibo Airport was closed 4 p.m. Sunday due to damage in the asphalt overlay at the runway, airport manager Percy Malonesio told ABS-CBN News.

Malonesio explained that due to bad weather, the asphalt, which is overlaid nightly, did not set properly. The airport official said that could possibly damage planes landing at the airport.

He added the runway is now being cleaned and repaired, and will reopen at 7 a.m. Monday.

The cancelled flights according to Manila International Airport Authority and Cebu Pacific and as of posting, are the following:

MANILA DOMESTIC AIRPORT (ZestAir)

Z2 875 ETD 1420H and return flight to Manila Z2 874 ETA1700H
Z2 883 ETD 1540H and return flight to Manila Z2882 ETA 1820H
Z2 897 ETD 1600H and return flight to Manila Z2 896 ETA 1840H

NAIA T2 (Philippine Airlines)

PR 324 ETA 1545H
PR 325 ETD 1605H
PR 326 ETA 1850H
PR 323 departed from Manila for Kalibo 1307H diverted to Iloilo; to go back to Manila

NAIA T3 (Cebu Pacific)

5J 341 ETD 1530H and return flight to Manila 5J 342 ETA 1820H
5J 343 ETD 1625H and return flight to Manila 5J 344 ETA 1915H
5J 345 ETD 1710H and return flight to Manila 5J 346 ETA 1940H

as of 07/19/2009 8:33 PM

swahi
July 19th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Kalibo airport closes due to damaged runway

abs-cbnNEWS.com | 07/19/2009 8:33 PM




The Kalibo Airport was closed 4 p.m. Sunday due to damage in the asphalt overlay at the runway, airport manager Percy Malonesio told ABS-CBN News.

Malonesio explained that due to bad weather, the asphalt, which is overlaid nightly, did not set properly. The airport official said that could possibly damage planes landing at the airport.





Nightly?

Sky Harbor
July 19th, 2009, 04:40 PM
^^ Runway works must have been performed after all flights have left for the day.

habagatcentral1
July 19th, 2009, 06:33 PM
^^ Gee, umm...I really don't get the point why the Philippine government is somehow don't doing anything drastic about Kalibo's situation? I've heard from a Kalibonhon friend of mine who was complaining that the x-ray machines were broken.

With the rate of the suspension of flights to Caticlan and diverting to Kalibo, I don't know what is the real game plan (and concrete steps) of the local or national government about this. Boracay market seems to be insatiable.

pepeng_agimat
July 19th, 2009, 06:41 PM
buti na lang nakalipad pa ang 5J 340 KLO-MNL kaninang 1305... ahead of sked pa ang dating namin. pero while we were taking off, naramdaman ko yung malalim na lubak sa runway. hope they can fix it asap kasi daming pasahero ngayon sa KLO.

Sky Harbor
July 19th, 2009, 07:21 PM
This is where a regional hub comes in. ILO and BCD can support all the extra flights being sent to KLO, and SEAIR can open routes from their "hub" in MPH to ILO and BCD.

marlowe_cano
July 19th, 2009, 08:12 PM
my gee.. kawawang tourists... tsktsk

planeportaddict
July 19th, 2009, 09:06 PM
^^ My name was already made public through Wikipedia, so I don't really care much about it. Besides, they don't know my middle name. :lol:

Anyway, I do have blanked versions here. Maybe I'll replace them, or I'll do that in future TRs.
i read your tr. nice :) haba pero ang saya :)

OT: sabi mo sa tr mo you graduated 2 months ago. la lang. tas nakita ko may maroon ka sa profile name mo. hehe. taga up ka?

Sky Harbor
July 20th, 2009, 01:28 AM
^^ My user title clearly suggests I'm Atenean. But I have friends in UP! :D

absinthe_888
July 20th, 2009, 06:18 AM
Operations back to normal at Kalibo airport (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=488481&publicationSubCategoryId=200)
By Dino Maragay Updated July 20, 2009 10:57 AM

MANILA, Philippines – A day after it was closed due to a runway problem, the Kalibo airport has resumed its operations, a radio report said.

According to the report, the hundreds of passengers stranded at the airport because of yesterday’s flight cancellation would be accommodated in today’s trips.

The stranded passengers, most of whom spent the weekend on the island-paradise of Boracay, were supposed to board Philippine Airlines, Cebu Pacific and Zest Air flights to Manila yesterday.

The postponement of yesterdayt's flights was made by the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines, which issued a notice to airmen saying there was "damaged asphalt" at the airport's runway.

marlowe_cano
July 20th, 2009, 08:44 AM
hAAy.. buti naman... thank u God~ :okay:

arianespace
July 20th, 2009, 01:21 PM
^^
Impressive travel report SKY. I wish I have time to do that. I always wanted to make one but never managed to start. Sometimes, it takes a lot of inspiration to begin and maybe I just don't have that feeling anymore. Thanks for sharing though.

absinthe_888
July 21st, 2009, 05:02 AM
EDITORIAL - Stranded in Boracay (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=488626)
Updated July 21, 2009 12:00 AM

Adventurous types may consider being stranded on a resort island part of the appeal of visiting developing countries. But the typical tourist will be dismayed by the inconvenience of being stranded overnight, even in scenic Boracay, because flights can’t land or take off while the airport tarmac is being repaired.

Boracay is one of the most developed tourist destinations in the country. But access to the popular island resort, with its beaches of powdery white sand, has not matched the pace of development in terms of accommodations, telecommunications and forms of entertainment.

Last month a plane overshot the short runway in Caticlan, which is the airport nearest to Boracay. This prompted the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines to designate Caticlan as a one-way airport, consequently shortening the portion of the runway that could be used. Airlines with planes too big for the runway moved all their operations to the alternative airport in Kalibo, which is a two-hour drive from Caticlan.

With only one airport left for the thousands of people visiting Boracay, aviation authorities closed the Kalibo airport last Sunday afternoon, citing the runway’s “damaged asphalt” as the reason. The closure forced the cancellation of 14 Kalibo-bound flights. Another flight was diverted to Iloilo before being made to return to Manila.

Safety comes first, and aviation authorities can argue that a damaged runway can put planes at risk on landing or takeoff. But the incident should give urgency to the upgrading of the country’s airports, especially those serving busy destinations such as Boracay.

The country is already lagging behind its neighbors in the quality of international airport facilities. The most recent effort to add a third terminal at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport remains bogged down in litigation. Portions of Terminal 3 were crumbling from disuse when it was finally opened. NAIA is the principal gateway to the Philippines. If upgrading it is such a Herculean task for the government, smaller airports such as those in Kalibo and Caticlan should pose less of a challenge.

absinthe_888
July 21st, 2009, 06:04 AM
High fuel, hedging costs take toll on PAL earnings (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=488534&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña Updated July 21, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Earnings of airline companies worldwide, including flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL), took a nosedive this year as rising fuel prices and weak demand created an unprecedented crisis for the industry.

In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, PAL said it booked total comprehensive and mark-to-market losses of $301 million for its fiscal year ending March 2009, mainly due to high fuel and hedging costs.

In recent months, major airlines have also reported massive losses due to their fuel-hedging contracts mainly aimed at shielding them from volatile oil prices. Hong Kong-based Cathay Pacific reported record annual losses of $1.1 billion in 2008 while Japan Airlines posted a net loss of $673 million in 2008-2009. Thai Airways lost $628 million for 2008 and Korean Air a whopping $1.5 billion also last year.

In spite of these tough economic challenges, PAL managed to post a nine-percent rise in its revenues to $1.63 billion at the end of its fiscal year, driven by higher passenger revenues. Increased seat demand enabled PAL to carry 8.95 million passengers during the year – 17 percent higher than the previous level.

Passenger load factor was at 76 percent, with aircraft cabins filled up by Mabuhay Miles frequent flyers, overseas Filipino workers and balikbayan traffic.

Total expenses went up 23 percent to $1.93-billion, largely due to high fuel cost. PAL continues to keep operating expenses in check but fuel remains its most volatile expense.

In an effort to ride out the crisis, PAL has engaged in various product and service enhancements. It introduced “WAY TO GO” and “Seat All You Can” – two new low-fare promos aimed at boosting travel even during the lean months of the year.

PAL is also reconfiguring all its B747-400 aircraft under a $50-million refurbishment program to incorporate a bi-class cabin layout. The new design features lie-flat seats in business class and brand new ergonomically-designed seats all from Recaro of Germany. Passengers in both business and economy sections will likewise enjoy the new, state-of-the-art entertainment systems with individual LCD screens per passenger.

By November 2009 and January next year, PAL will take delivery of two new and more fuel-efficient B777-300ER aircraft.

Skyblade
July 21st, 2009, 11:16 AM
^^
Impressive travel report SKY. I wish I have time to do that. I always wanted to make one but never managed to start. Sometimes, it takes a lot of inspiration to begin and maybe I just don't have that feeling anymore. Thanks for sharing though.

I hear you there, ariane. Even when I get the ball rolling, I suddenly get the urge to hastily finish the TR with an awful result. I'm still supposed to finish the return segment of my trip to DXB which occurred April last year and I've already amounted a heavy backlog ever since. :nuts:

Indeed an excellent report, Sky!! Very substantial with an ideal balance of text and pictures! :okay: Just reading it makes me miss even more the good ol' days of Sunday trips to the Sapporo location of Donki. ;)

Sky Harbor
July 21st, 2009, 12:30 PM
^^ Haha. I miss Donki. :D

Expect a similar feel (and length!) with the future TRs, though I will try my best to put in better pictures. Of course, I'm waiting as well for the "TR of all TRs": an in-depth review of the refurbished 747 cabin. If I'm lucky, I'll be able to ride RP-C7472. Or maybe RP-C7475.

Or, if I'm even luckier, I'll be able to ride RP-C7471. ;)

Just a bit of advice when writing TRs: write them as you go along so you don't forget any details. I finished this TR about 3-7 days after landing in Manila, but it took me a month to post it since I can't get an A.Net membership (until now, hopefully) and reluctantly decided to post it on FT instead. :D

TheAvenger
July 21st, 2009, 05:27 PM
Space Program........ are you joking ?

Ni hindi tayo makabili ng Fighter Jets na 2nd hand or Huey Helicopter 2nd hand.......... :) tsaka yaong mga Pilots ng PAF ay sa training nila ay yaong
computer games and Flight Simulator na lang ang ginagamit dahil hindi nga makabili. mag iisip pa tayo ng Space Program.

Sabagay ang mga Pinoy magaling gumawa ng mga Rackets.

Racket Engine ang ginagamit sa pagpalipad ng spaceship.




typo error ...... Rocket engine.......... pala

Sky Harbor
July 21st, 2009, 05:41 PM
^^ There was a thread made much earlier about a Philippine space program, and though the decision bewilders me, the thread was merged with this thread. A Space Shuttle is not a plane!

----

Anyway, moving on again.

We've been hearing through the grapevine that SEAIR plans to serve MRQ and MBT in the future. MBT was posted here earlier as being served by SEAIR four times weekly.

According to my grandmother, SEAIR will be flying MNL-MRQ three times weekly, whenever they start. They will be flying on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, which are the days Z2 does not fly into MRQ. This means that for the first time in 10+ years (if I'm not mistaken), MRQ will finally have daily service to Manila, though on two separate airlines, unlike back in the 1990s when PAL had a monopoly on MNL-MRQ, flying daily using Fokker 50s.

Hopefully DG will keep fares low as to both attract customers and compete against Z2. 6K (Asian Spirit) failed at MNL-MRQ back in 2005 since they set fares too high.

arianespace
July 21st, 2009, 06:15 PM
^^
All DG planes are preoccupied in Caticlan. They won't be coming until September when the giants return to their turf.

pthfndr19
July 21st, 2009, 10:49 PM
^^
All DG planes are preoccupied in Caticlan. They won't be coming until September when the giants return to their turf.

Hi Arianespace, do you have any idea on when will be the opening for commercial flights of Guiuan Airport? This 2-kilometer-runway airport and terminal is being rehabilitated since last 2 years...

patlite_boy
July 22nd, 2009, 03:11 AM
^^
All DG planes are preoccupied in Caticlan. They won't be coming until September when the giants return to their turf.

SEAIR 2 additional Dornier 328 will arrive next month. RP-C3286 and RP-C3289

kiretoce
July 22nd, 2009, 03:27 AM
There was a thread made much earlier about a Philippine space program, and though the decision bewilders me, the thread was merged with this thread. A Space Shuttle is not a plane!

It was merged so that it can be taken off the board (because of inactivity) when this thread reaches capacity and is archived.

Skyblade
July 22nd, 2009, 06:35 AM
Just a bit of advice when writing TRs: write them as you go along so you don't forget any details. I finished this TR about 3-7 days after landing in Manila, but it took me a month to post it since I can't get an A.Net membership (until now, hopefully) and reluctantly decided to post it on FT instead. :D

Thanks for the bit. I actually do that myself, but in the end (for my case), it comes down to inspiration of getting the ball rolling on starting/completing it, as Ariane mentioned. ;) My SU LAX-SVO-DXB J TR was sitting untouched in my hard drive for 13 months until I restarted it, uploaded the pics, and posted it in A.net (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/148912). :lol:

Will look forward for the upcoming TRs. :D

filino
July 22nd, 2009, 06:50 AM
^^
All DG planes are preoccupied in Caticlan. They won't be coming until September when the giants return to their turf.


hello arianespace, any info if AirPhil is doing well in Surigao? and during their maiden flight, according to the management, PAL Express will serve Surigao-Cebu-Surigao as soon as possible, any updates on this regard kung when tlaga sila mag start serving for that route?

Sky Harbor
July 22nd, 2009, 07:14 AM
Thanks for the bit. I actually do that myself, but in the end (for my case), it comes down to inspiration of getting the ball rolling on starting/completing it, as Ariane mentioned. ;) My SU LAX-SVO-DXB J TR was sitting untouched in my hard drive for 13 months until I restarted it, uploaded the pics, and posted it in A.net (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/148912). :lol:

I read this one too! :D

Will look forward for the upcoming TRs. :D

If I'm lucky, I'll be able to post the other three TRs on A.Net in addition to FT. Time to prove (again) that PAL is no longer a lousy, third-rate carrier (copied verbatim from an A.Net user in a thread about PAL serving New York City)!

TheAvenger
July 22nd, 2009, 02:59 PM
It was merged so that it can be taken off the board (because of inactivity) when this thread reaches capacity and is archived.

Speaking of Space Program, posting these photos of Space Shuttle.

These rare photos is from Power Point Presentation courtesy of my MHS Alumni friend (eminocen) a FilAm and residing in Naples, Italy. One by one I converted the Power Point presentation to JPEG photos and uploaded to my Photobucket Account and now downloading here the photos.


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Sky Harbor
July 22nd, 2009, 05:44 PM
Three PAL updates which should pique people's interest:

* According to the PEx grapevine, though the first two 77Ws will arrive on schedule, delivery of the next four have been deferred to between 2013 and 2014. Hopefully the FAA lifts Cat II on the Philippines so that these can be delivered sooner.
* Also according to the PEx grapevine (though the PAL domestic timetable confirms this), the following airports will see increased or decreased frequencies: CGY (new late afternoon/evening flight), ILO (new evening flight), USU (afternoon flight decreased from daily to three times weekly) and OMC (increased from four times weekly to daily).
* Seat All You Can was relaunched! Now even PAL Express fares were slashed, with fares as low as P688. Mainline PAL fares are still P888 for the Visayas and P1888 for Mindanao. (On a personal note, this means I may be going again to CEB, this time with a friend, on Bonifacio Day, and I may go for a weekend hop to USU to explore the airport!).

Juan Pilgrim
July 22nd, 2009, 08:07 PM
Satellite Terminal - 2009/1/11

http://www.globalphotos.org/beijing/20090111/IMG_7670.jpg





:horse:

ngprofflorida
July 23rd, 2009, 04:38 AM
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/shuttle45.jpg



http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/shuttle46.jpg



http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/shuttle47.jpg[/QUOTE]

Wow from Cape Canaveral Florida nice pics.....

TeslaCoil
July 23rd, 2009, 05:04 AM
Ano naman kinalaman ng rocket sa thread na ito?

Sky Harbor
July 23rd, 2009, 05:08 AM
^^ The old Philippine space program thread was merged into this one.

TeslaCoil
July 23rd, 2009, 05:13 AM
^^May space program tayo? Seriously?

alcogoodwin
July 23rd, 2009, 06:07 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/3747160323_39f720ea78.jpg

alcogoodwin
July 23rd, 2009, 06:14 AM
^^

Wow awesome space shuttle shots.
You obviously went to some trouble to get them on here - just wanted to say that its very much appreciated.

Brad

kiretoce
July 23rd, 2009, 06:22 AM
May space program tayo? Seriously?

The Philippine Space Program only exists in the "space between some people's ears" around here. Get my drift? Yeah, seriously. ;)

TeslaCoil
July 23rd, 2009, 06:31 AM
^^ :lol:

It must be the hunger. It must be. :lol:

Juan Pilgrim
July 23rd, 2009, 06:33 AM
The Philippine Space Program only exists in the "space between some people's ears" around here. Get my drift? Yeah, seriously. ;)


:lol:




JPhttp://smiliesftw.com/x/8g5sqap.gifKIMBRO



:horse:

kiretoce
July 23rd, 2009, 06:40 AM
If....

Americans are called astronauts
Russians are called cosmonauts
Chinese are called taikonauts

What do you call a Filipino space explorer?






A bunot? :lol:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was lame. I know that. But I just had to throw that in there. Anyway this thread is done.

kiretoce
July 23rd, 2009, 06:41 AM
Post away folks! :colgate:

Link to Thread 19 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=160060&page=708) in the Archives. :okay:

kiretoce
July 23rd, 2009, 06:43 AM
New thread! (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=918906) :colgate:



:lock:

Noize_320
July 23rd, 2009, 02:27 PM
* According to the PEx grapevine, though the first two 77Ws will arrive on schedule, delivery of the next four have been deferred to between 2013 and 2014. Hopefully the FAA lifts Cat II on the Philippines so that these can be delivered sooner.

These two 777s are the leased ones right? :banana:

Sky Harbor
July 23rd, 2009, 02:46 PM
^^ Yup, those are the GECAS planes. The PAL-owned planes will be deferred.

Sou-jiro
July 23rd, 2009, 03:29 PM
These two 777s are the leased ones right? :banana:


PALs 777ERs have arrived in my terminal /...one is even in special colours heheh.. :D

ow yeh i just got the thats
PALexpress Q400

sorry to flood with pics...ok lang ba share ko too...

Peeps share ko lang terminal pics ko before i destroy it im running out of space as much as I love it ...anyway Im excited to see the real thing soon...I cant wait..:banana:

whoaa i gotta stop this hobby...its not exactly cheap im gonna go broke..lol
but its so addictive.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2485/3748441331_39e8425810.jpg?v=0
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SQ FLEET A345 A343 B744 B772ER with PALs A320s CFM engine and first one with IAEV2527 engines

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Cebu Pacific A333 in old colours and the rest of the old fleets

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Sky Harbor
July 23rd, 2009, 03:38 PM
^^ I think you're better off sharing that on PEx. A bunch of PExers who are active on the counterpart of this thread there (like Hikouki, for example) are avid airplane collectors.

Still, that does not compare to my hobby. Who says I should get lost in Busuanga on October 20, taking advantage of Seat All You Can III? :lol:

Sou-jiro
July 23rd, 2009, 03:40 PM
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GOOD O'L md11 is back in the fleet
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next stop Baclaran :D
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Q400 PALExpress bound fro Caticlan
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Sou-jiro
July 23rd, 2009, 03:44 PM
^^ I think you're better off sharing that on PEx. A bunch of PExers who are active on the counterpart of this thread there (like Hikouki, for example) are avid airplane collectors.

Still, that does not compare to my hobby. Who says I should get lost in Busuanga on October 20, taking advantage of Seat All You Can III? :lol:

yeh i though of that but i actually stopped collecting recently...i hope...so you see no point going there..i'll be packing it away soon.,.:okay:

bustero
July 23rd, 2009, 03:59 PM
Wow!

sonnyville
July 23rd, 2009, 07:31 PM
wow... meron ka pang PAL MD-11!!

well despite the cat. 2 issue, and the fuel issue, at maski na deferred yung mga 777s ng PAL, it is good that the ones they will lease will arrive soon. they badly need these long hauls. when one of their long hauls experience technical difficulties, palaging cancelled right away yung flight. so this will at least provide them with substitutes in case one or the other gets a technical problem. very costly when you cancel out a flight, it would be best to find a replacement aircraft immediately and have a delayed flight rather than a total cancellation of a flight.

Jarvijarv
July 23rd, 2009, 08:20 PM
^^

I agree. Those flights from Manila to the U.S. West Coast and Canada has got to put a strain on the few B747-400 and A340 which fly daily! The lines at LAX are crazy long! The 777's will be a most welcome addition.....until PAL gets the A380! :| (wishful thinking, but a possiblility!)

sonnyville
July 23rd, 2009, 08:53 PM
^^ i agreee! pucha... yung arrival lang ngayon sa TBIT at LAX is chaotic. i was there last sunday to pick up my lolo on a delayed PAL flight arrival due to some emergency at LAX. it just so happened that all the asian carriers and the asia-pacific rush was at that time. it got pretty crowded waiting in front of the sliding doors at the arrival area. they are renovating or preparing for the future of TBIT and it is rather disorderly at the moment. heads up, might as well just circle around the airport and wait till they get out of customs rather than pay for parking. you can't get inside the arrival area anyways! you wait outside the sliding doors.

mwg12a
July 23rd, 2009, 11:46 PM
Those pics are awesome Sou-jiro!! Very different concept for an airport terminal building.

Sou-jiro
July 24th, 2009, 04:29 AM
^^ thanks i've had them for a while so im winding down

btw despites new on Deferred PALs 777 order is there any chance that the first one will arrive by nov09...just curious...


hmm i've inquired about a Sydney-manila fare return yesterday
AUS$
QF$1200 PAL $955 and the cheapest seems to be China Airlines $788..

anyone been to taipei's airport? what does it look like...i love flying im curious to try China Airlines A330 thats what they use in Sydney...

Sky Harbor
July 24th, 2009, 04:51 AM
^^ The GECAS-leased planes will arrive in November and January respectively. The PAL planes were the ones that were deferred.

Here's a CI trip report on A.Net for your perusal (though this is BNE-TPE-BNE, this should be fine since you're flying out of SYD):

China Airlines -Brisbane To Taipei (return W Pics) (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/119183/)

Sou-jiro
July 24th, 2009, 05:12 AM
^^ nice..thanks...i didnt know China Airlines A333 had PTVs..im more likely gonna fly PAL though but im ot sure yet...i dont mine terminal 1 but im not exactly a fan either which is why prefer PAL...i seem to exit alot faster...well thats based on my experience

alcogoodwin
July 24th, 2009, 05:16 AM
PALs 777ERs have arrived in my terminal /...one is even in special colours heheh.. :D

ow yeh i just got the thats
PALexpress Q400

sorry to flood with pics...ok lang ba share ko too...

Peeps share ko lang terminal pics ko before i destroy it im running out of space as much as I love it ...anyway Im excited to see the real thing soon...I cant wait..:banana:

whoaa i gotta stop this hobby...its not exactly cheap im gonna go broke..lol
but its so addictive.


Hello fellow Sydneyite :lol:

I thought this was an official government display or something until I saw it was your collection.

This must have taken you so long and cost so much.
No words could express how impressive that all is.

Great work.

alcogoodwin
July 24th, 2009, 05:20 AM
Sorry if this was put up in the old thread.

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Fuel costs negatively affect PAL earnings
Companies
Written by Lenie Lectura / Reporter


LIKE most major regional airlines, Philippine Airlines (PAL) was not spared from the ill-effects of the global crisis as record-high jet fuel prices pulled the flag carrier’s margins down.

PAL, in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on Monday, posted a net loss of $301 million in the fiscal year to March 2009.

The country’s main airline reported a net profit of $30.6 million in the past financial year ending on March 31, 2008, down from $130.5 million in the previous year.

PAL joins the ranks of other major Asian carriers which also suffered massive losses due to the global contagion and the unexpected spike and sudden fall in oil prices in the world market. Korean Air reported $1.5-billion loss last year; Cathay Pacific, $1.1 billion in the same period; Japan Airlines reported a net loss of $673 million in 2008-09; while Thai Airways lost $628 million also in 2008.

The International Air Transport Association forecast a total industry loss of $10 billion last year among Asian carriers, including PAL. The fluctuating fuel prices last year was mainly to be blamed. Even though it raised fuel fees in the past, it was still not enough for PAL to cover all of the airline’s costs.

Fuel has become PAL’s main cost, taking up about $30 billion a year, PAL president Jaime Bautista had said.

PAL’s total expenses at end-March this year were higher by 20 percent compared to the previous year as a result of high fuel cost. The airline management is exerting efforts to curb operating expenses as fuel remains its most volatile expense item.

Efforts include a slew of product and service enhancements such as “WAY TO GO” and “Seat All You Can.” These two low-fare promotions seek to spur travel even during the lean months.

Also, PAL is concluding its $50-million refurbishment program to reconfigure all its B747-400 aircraft. These wide-bodied aircraft underwent major facelift and now feature business and economy class sections all fitted with the latest seats from Recaro of Germany. The aircraft also boasts of individual LCD screens in both economy and business sections for enhanced inflight experience.

PAL also reported to the commission that revenues increased by almost 10 percent to $1.6 billion during the period. The airline carried close to 9 million passengers during the year, which was nearly 20-percent higher than the previous year.

Passenger load factor stood at 76 percent, consisting mostly of frequent flyers, overseas Filipino workers and balikbayans.

absinthe_888
July 24th, 2009, 05:39 AM
Cebu Pacific sees profit turnaround in first half (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=489486&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes Updated July 24, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Budget airline Cebu Pacific expects its finances to reverse route this year as it posted a 38-percent increase in passenger volume during the first six months of 2009 to 4.3 million, the company’s top executive said.

Cebu Pacific president Lance Gokongwei told The STAR that with this development, they will likely attain their whole year passenger carriage target of nine million. Last year, Cebu Pacific carried 6.7 million passengers for domestic and international routes combined.

At the sidelines of last Wednesday’s celebration of NAIA Terminal 3’s first anniversary, Gokongwei also said they expect their passenger traffic to double to 17.5 million passengers by 2014 on the back of the carrier’s continued expansion of routes and purchase of more aircraft.

By 2010, the airline expects to carry about 12 million passengers, increasing to 15 million passengers by 2013.

He added that they expect revenues to grow 20 percent in the first half of 2009 on the back of higher passenger traffic brought about by cheaper airfares.

The airline is also looking at new routes this year, particularly Brunei . “We applied for rights to fly to Brunei . We are also looking at more Japan routes and in Korea as well,” Gokongwei said.

While Cebu Pacific expects to be profitable this year, Gokongwei added that the next six months is going to be tough. “We expect that because there’s off-peak season, higher fuel prices and low yields. But we still expect to be profitable,” he said.

Last year, Cebu Pacific posted a net loss of P3.26 billion.

Fuel cost is the single largest cost of Cebu Pacific. When jet fuel was priced at $181 per barrel last year, fuel accounted for 60 percent of Cebu Pacific’s total cost. “Fuel hedging will be in 2010. The cost is not too much, about 15 percent,” Gokongwei added.

He also told The STAR that the problems that have beset the global economy have not deterred them from continuing with their planned expansion. Cebu Pacific has programmed about $1 billion for the acquisition of 17 Airbus and two ATR aircraft from 2009 to 2014.

“We continue to hope that such efforts will significantly affect the growth of the travel industry and the Philippine economy,” Gokongwei said.

Currently, the airline operates 21 brand-new Airbus with an average fleet age of 1.9 years.

Earlier, Gokongwei said the airline market would experience slower growth this year due to the economic slowdown and the influenza A(H1N1) virus scare.

“We slowed down our rate capacity addition. We’re a little bit cautious in this kind of environment. If we need an extra lift we can easily lease additional aircrafts,” he said.

Gokongwei said the economic and health crises dragged down the airline industry, particularly the international routes of North Asia like China, Japan and Hong Kong.

The local airline industry, on the other hand, would continue to grow by about 20 percent, defying the projected three-to nine-percent contraction of the global industry.

From January to March, Cebu Pacific’s net income dropped by percent to P330.11 million from last year’s P389.24 million due to foreign exchange losses.

The airline’s revenues stood at P5.30 billion for the three-month period, a 25.1-percent increase over last year’s P4.24 billion brought about by additional routes and flights.

al_teeway
July 24th, 2009, 07:27 AM
Chinese tourists to troop to Kalibo

By MARS W. MOSQUEDA JR.
July 23, 2009, 7:13pm
Manila Bulletin (http://www.mb.com.ph)


KALIBO, Aklan – Philippine tourism is on an upsurge, despite the global financial crisis and anxieties caused by negative reports about the flu virus, A (H1N1), with flights from two cities in the Chinese mainland to Kalibo, capital of Aklan province and gateway to the country’s premier tourist destination, Boracay Island, set to start next week.

In an exclusive interview, Tourism Undersecretary for Planning and Promotions Edu Jarque told Manila Bulletin that twice-weekly chartered flights will be taking off from Shanghai and Hangzhou, bringing in at least 300 Chinese tourists to Kalibo, beginning next week.

The chartered flights from Shanghai, China’s largest city with a population of over 20 million will be carried out by Shanghai Airlines starting July 26, while flights from Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang Province, will be carried out by Philippine Airlines starting July 27.

Jarque said the Department of Tourism (DoT) has been extending assistance, promoting the chartered flights, to ensure such flights will take place on a regular basis.

“We have to give these tourists a good experience when they come here so that when they fly back home, they will be talking about the place. It’s a sort of an advertisement,” said Jarque, who stressed that Tourism Secretary Ace Durano has been promoting chartered flights to bring in tourists from new markets.

Durano has been tapping markets around the region, which means cheaper fare for tourists because of the proximity of the destinations.

Jarque said the DoT is also working hand-in-hand with the Bureau of Immigration, the Bureau of Customs, and the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines to give the tourists with a hassle-free experience when then visit the country.

The first few flights of the chartered trips have already been filled to capacity, said Jarque, and the DoT is hopeful that the flights will go on beyond the target month of December, during which period the flights will be assessed and possibly extended if successful.

The first flights from Shanghai and Hangzhou will include Chinese media who will be writing about Kalibo and its different tourist attractions, including world-famous Boracay Island.

Jarque said the Chinese tourists and media will have a good time visiting Kalibo’s attractions, including its beaches, land and water-based activities, its nightlife, culture and history, and the warmth of its people.

“They will surely have a lot of good things to talk about when they get back to their cities,” said Jarque, who added that the tourists will have varied hotel choices of hotels for their stay in Kalibo.

Meanwhile, Jarque said the chartered flight from Kaohsiung, Taiwan to Cebu has been doing well, bringing in 150 tourists per flight.

The Kaoshiung-Cebu direct flight started July 13 and will run until September, with option to continue, said Jarque.

Also, twice-weekly chartered flights from Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong in China, to Cebu commenced last July 19, further boosting Cebu’s vibrant tourism industry.

Jarque said the inaugural flight through China Southern Airlines was sold out, with more Chinese tourists from the largest city in one of China's wealthiest provinces inquiring about the chartered flights.

“The chartered flights that we now have means that the (global) financial crisis and the A(H1N1) flu scare have little or no effect at all to our healthy tourism industry,” said Jarque.

Sou-jiro
July 24th, 2009, 08:57 AM
Hello fellow Sydneyite :lol:

I thought this was an official government display or something until I saw it was your collection.

This must have taken you so long and cost so much.
No words could express how impressive that all is.

Great work.

hey! haha nice to see another fellow Sydney sider...:lol:
thanks..yes i did it bit by bit but im stopping because if i keep going then i'll be sleeping on the floor soon :D

i mainly do plane photography now..

in_a_rush
July 24th, 2009, 10:14 AM
sana naman i-upgrade ang airport sa Kalibo. sobrang panget at ang liit liit pa.

swahi
July 24th, 2009, 10:20 AM
^^ i agreee! pucha... yung arrival lang ngayon sa TBIT at LAX is chaotic. i was there last sunday to pick up my lolo on a delayed PAL flight arrival due to some emergency at LAX. it just so happened that all the asian carriers and the asia-pacific rush was at that time. it got pretty crowded waiting in front of the sliding doors at the arrival area. they are renovating or preparing for the future of TBIT and it is rather disorderly at the moment. heads up, might as well just circle around the airport and wait till they get out of customs rather than pay for parking. you can't get inside the arrival area anyways! you wait outside the sliding doors.

I was in LA two summers ago. Yes, immigration was long. How bad is it nowadays? I am scheduled to go to the US in September, but have a 3 hour layover to go through immigration, get my luggage, and check in for a domestic flight for newark. How long would it take to clear immigration and pull out the luggages? I am still going to meet up with my friends in LA who agreed to meet me at the airport so I can leave most of my big luggages with him to avoid the extra luggage charges of $15 and $30 dollars per extra check in bags. Babalik naman din ako to LA from the East and midwest trip.

Skyblade
July 24th, 2009, 01:58 PM
^^ Though I haven't gone through immigration in TBIT since last year prior to the current phase of renovations and have noticed the mess myself, 3 hours should nonetheless be suitable enough for you to clear immigration, claim bags, customs, meet friends and hand the luggage with them, and make your connection, of course assuming that your inbound flight arrives on-time.

Are you taking Continental to Newark? If so, Terminal 6 is your destination which is down 1 World Way from TBIT. Be warned, though, that the security lines in Terminal 6 have grown larger ever since almost all airlines that were originally housed in Terminal 3 (save for Alaska, which stayed, and Midwest which is now in T4) have moved to T6 along w/ JetBlue and Allegiant adding onto the activity so it's a lot busier than before.

i agreee! pucha... yung arrival lang ngayon sa TBIT at LAX is chaotic. i was there last sunday to pick up my lolo on a delayed PAL flight arrival due to some emergency at LAX. it just so happened that all the asian carriers and the asia-pacific rush was at that time. it got pretty crowded waiting in front of the sliding doors at the arrival area. they are renovating or preparing for the future of TBIT and it is rather disorderly at the moment. heads up, might as well just circle around the airport and wait till they get out of customs rather than pay for parking. you can't get inside the arrival area anyways! you wait outside the sliding doors.

Yeah, the arrivals area in TBIT has turned into hell in a handbasket while the renovations go on. It's always fun weaving through the mess that comes out of the central exit while getting to the green sign. :nuts:

And as for the issue of waiting, is trying out the free cell phone lot (http://www.lawa.org/welcome_LAX.aspx?id=64) a possible option next time? :D

hikouki
July 24th, 2009, 02:37 PM
wow... meron ka pang PAL MD-11!!

well despite the cat. 2 issue, and the fuel issue, at maski na deferred yung mga 777s ng PAL, it is good that the ones they will lease will arrive soon. they badly need these long hauls. when one of their long hauls experience technical difficulties, palaging cancelled right away yung flight. so this will at least provide them with substitutes in case one or the other gets a technical problem. very costly when you cancel out a flight, it would be best to find a replacement aircraft immediately and have a delayed flight rather than a total cancellation of a flight.

I believe that under the rules of the downgrade, they cannot use the 77Ws to any US destination by any means. The 744 cannot be substituted with the 77W. The 340s cannot be substituted with the 77Ws.

Noize_320
July 24th, 2009, 02:45 PM
^^ then what are we going to do with the 77Ws? is it going to be used for domestic routes too? :):):)

alcogoodwin
July 24th, 2009, 03:35 PM
^^ then what are we going to do with the 77Ws? is it going to be used for domestic routes too? :):):)

Australia Australia Australia :lol::lol:

Though I would prefer the 747s......

Am heading down the airport tomorrow to get the PAL flight on camera. Fingers crossed for a rare 747 visit again.

alcogoodwin
July 24th, 2009, 03:41 PM
hey! haha nice to see another fellow Sydney sider...:lol:
thanks..yes i did it bit by bit but im stopping because if i keep going then i'll be sleeping on the floor soon :D

i mainly do plane photography now..

How big are the models? Some of them look quite large.
I would dearly love to get a large scale PAL 747 to display.

I had to move my train collection to the garage. Not because of room, but due to the asawa telling me it was them or myself moving up there :lol::lol:

Am only new to plane photography myself, having photographed trains/buses most of my life.
Hopefully see you down Sydney Airport some time. I usually go down there Saturday mornings to get the PAL flight, but other days when I have nothing to do usually results in a trip down there.
I am only 10 minutes away afterall :lol:

Brad

Sky Harbor
July 24th, 2009, 05:17 PM
^^ then what are we going to do with the 77Ws? is it going to be used for domestic routes too? :):):)

Australia Australia Australia :lol::lol:

Though I would prefer the 747s......

Am heading down the airport tomorrow to get the PAL flight on camera. Fingers crossed for a rare 747 visit again.

Arianespace already mentioned here previously that the 77Ws would be deployed to Australia.

Sky Harbor
July 24th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Anyway, again, moving on.

On a more personal note, I have just realized that I have one trip booked for every month from June to November, with October remaining iffy. My sched ended up appearing like this:

* 6/2-6/9: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL, PR
* 7/31-8/2: MNL-SIN-MNL, 5J
* 8/19: MNL-CEB-MNL, Z2/PR
* 9/5: MNL-CEB-ILO-MNL, PR/2P
* 10/26-11/4 (?): MNL-NRT-MNL, unsure of the airline (maybe CI)
* 11/21: MNL-USU-MNL, PR

Yes, all of those trips will receive their own individual (and lengthy) TRs.

I have a feeling something will come up in December. I just have no idea what it is.

Sky Harbor
July 24th, 2009, 06:13 PM
sana naman i-upgrade ang airport sa Kalibo. sobrang panget at ang liit liit pa.

Moving on again...

Upgrading KLO would be pointless since MPH will also be upgraded. If and when MPH can support international flights, I'd be willing to bet that foreign airlines will not hesitate to move there in a jiffy.

sonnyville
July 24th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Anyone have a recent clip of a PAL commercial?? As in panahon ngayon.

I noticed that PAL doesn't really have or if not practically no commercials that do any promotion on tourism or travel. Although once in a while I see a brief clip, saying " brough to you by PAL... Asia's first airline" something like that on TFC. You can even youtube PAL commercials and the only ones that I could find are ones from the good ole' days. I remember in the old days they had great commercials and advertisements. Bakit kaya?

It would be a great opportunity to get some commercials that promote eco-tourism or cultural tour of the Philippines.

swahi
July 24th, 2009, 08:39 PM
^^ Though I haven't gone through immigration in TBIT since last year prior to the current phase of renovations and have noticed the mess myself, 3 hours should nonetheless be suitable enough for you to clear immigration, claim bags, customs, meet friends and hand the luggage with them, and make your connection, of course assuming that your inbound flight arrives on-time.

Are you taking Continental to Newark? If so, Terminal 6 is your destination which is down 1 World Way from TBIT. Be warned, though, that the security lines in Terminal 6 have grown larger ever since almost all airlines that were originally housed in Terminal 3 (save for Alaska, which stayed, and Midwest which is now in T4) have moved to T6 along w/ JetBlue and Allegiant adding onto the activity so it's a lot busier than before.



Yeah, the arrivals area in TBIT has turned into hell in a handbasket while the renovations go on. It's always fun weaving through the mess that comes out of the central exit while getting to the green sign. :nuts:

And as for the issue of waiting, is trying out the free cell phone lot (http://www.lawa.org/welcome_LAX.aspx?id=64) a possible option next time? :D

Taking American Airlines on domestic US route. That was the best rate I got via Orbitz which I asked my friend in the US to buy for me.

habagatcentral1
July 24th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Anyway, again, moving on.

On a more personal note, I have just realized that I have one trip booked for every month from June to November, with October remaining iffy. My sched ended up appearing like this:

* 6/2-6/9: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL, PR
* 7/31-8/2: MNL-SIN-MNL, 5J
* 8/19: MNL-CEB-MNL, Z2/PR
* 9/5: MNL-CEB-ILO-MNL, PR/2P
* 10/26-11/4 (?): MNL-NRT-MNL, unsure of the airline (maybe CI)
* 11/21: MNL-USU-MNL, PR

Yes, all of those trips will receive their own individual (and lengthy) TRs.

I have a feeling something will come up in December. I just have no idea what it is.

I wish I have your luxury.

AmbutLang
July 24th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Taking American Airlines on domestic US route. That was the best rate I got via Orbitz which I asked my friend in the US to buy for me.

American Airline ternimal is the next building to international arrival. I just walk. The 3 hours is more than enough for a gap between flight. Immigration is not really a problem if your Pinas passport has plenty of tatak pabalikbalik sa US. If US passport only 10 minutes tops. Baggage has no problem as long as it is 50 lbs or less each. The airline you will take, will have a rep at the exit lobby waiting to have your luggage ship to a connecting flight. If it was inspected by LA custom do not bother to close because the TSA will inspect it again and tape it themselves. If nakatali ang baggage mo, ilagay mo ang tali sa luob ng luggage mo, TSA will cut it and throw it away. :ohno: That what happened to me as I used LA port of entry and proceeded to JFK on AA connection.
The only thing I do not like LA as port of entry because Pinoy custom and Immigration officers are more harsh than Puti personnel and I used US passport. They think that my US passport is fake even I attach a NY State pictured DMV I.D. with it.

pi_malejana
July 24th, 2009, 09:53 PM
punyemas naman...:bash::ohno:


Iranian airliner skids off runway killing 17 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090724/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_plane)
AP
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer Ali Akbar Dareini, Associated Press Writer – 22 mins ago

TEHRAN, Iran – An Iranian passenger plane skidded off the runway Friday during its landing in northeast Iran and crashed, shredding the cockpit into a tangled mass of wreckage and killing 17 people, the state news agency said.

Television footage showed the plane, which was carrying 153 passengers, sitting at an angle, its tail awkwardly on the ground and the mangled front end pointing upward. The rest of the craft appeared largely intact.

It was the latest Iranian air disaster and came just over a week after another passenger plane nose-dived into the ground on July 15 shortly after take off, killing all 168 people aboard. Iran's aging fleet is plagued by maintenance problems, blamed on financial straits and U.S. sanctions that make it harder for the country to get many types of spare parts.

The IRNA news agency reported Friday that the tires failed on landing and it skidded into a wall, though no wall was visible in the footage.

The Russian-made Ilyushin-62 plane from the privately owned Aria Airlines flew from the capital Tehran to the northeastern city of Mashhad, 600 miles (1,000 kilometers) away.

Local official Ghahrman Rashid told the state news agency that another 20 people were injured in the crash and that all survivors had been evacuated from the scene.

The manager of Aria Airlines was aboard and died as well, the state news agency added.

Iranian airlines, including state-run ones, are chronically strapped for cash, and maintenance has suffered, experts say.

U.S. sanctions prevent Iran from updating its 30-year-old American aircraft and make it difficult to get European spare parts or planes as well. The country has come to rely on Russian aircraft, many of them Soviet-era planes that are harder to get parts for since the Soviet Union's fall.

Iran's worst crash came in February 2003 and also involved a Russian-made Ilyushin that plowed into the mountains of southeastern Iran, killing 302 aboard — mostly members of the elite Revolutionary Guard.

Some of the jets in Iran's fleet are U.S.-made craft bought before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, which led to a cut off in ties between the nations. U.S. sanctions since prevent Iran from buying parts for those planes or new ones.

In December 2005, 115 people were killed when a pre-1979 U.S.-made C-130 plane, crashed into a 10-story building near Tehran's Mehrabad airport.

The sanctions also bar sales of European jets with a certain amount of U.S. parts, limiting Iran's ability to buy from Europe.

As a result, Iran has focused on Russian-built planes — like the Tupolev and Ilyushins, the Soviet-era workhorses for Russian civil air fleets. After the Soviet collapse, government funding sharply declined for manufacturers of aircraft and spare parts, and other countries using the planes have had a harder time getting parts.

in_a_rush
July 24th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Moving on again...

Upgrading KLO would be pointless since MPH will also be upgraded. If and when MPH can support international flights, I'd be willing to bet that foreign airlines will not hesitate to move there in a jiffy.

oo nga pala, add to that the proposed (or is it U/C na?) airport in Carabao Island.. Ano ba balak nila sa Boracay at sobrang daming airport?

Lucentino
July 24th, 2009, 11:27 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3749249702_1d23599094.jpg?v=0


This is awesome mate!

Aside from the lights, does it come with sound effects as well? I can see a big speaker right there (or is it just a replica of an appliance company headquarters?)... :)

Sky Harbor
July 25th, 2009, 02:55 AM
I wish I have your luxury.

Haha...June, July and October are being paid for by my parents (family trips). August, September and November came out of my savings (personal trips).

alcogoodwin
July 25th, 2009, 04:41 AM
Arianespace already mentioned here previously that the 77Ws would be deployed to Australia.

Yeah I know mate, I was just having a bit of fun :)

alcogoodwin
July 25th, 2009, 04:44 AM
Anyway, again, moving on.

On a more personal note, I have just realized that I have one trip booked for every month from June to November, with October remaining iffy. My sched ended up appearing like this:

* 6/2-6/9: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL, PR
* 7/31-8/2: MNL-SIN-MNL, 5J
* 8/19: MNL-CEB-MNL, Z2/PR
* 9/5: MNL-CEB-ILO-MNL, PR/2P
* 10/26-11/4 (?): MNL-NRT-MNL, unsure of the airline (maybe CI)
* 11/21: MNL-USU-MNL, PR

Yes, all of those trips will receive their own individual (and lengthy) TRs.

I have a feeling something will come up in December. I just have no idea what it is.

Heck dude, you travel by plane more in a month than I do in a year :lol:

alcogoodwin
July 25th, 2009, 04:48 AM
Anyone have a recent clip of a PAL commercial?? As in panahon ngayon.

I noticed that PAL doesn't really have or if not practically no commercials that do any promotion on tourism or travel. Although once in a while I see a brief clip, saying " brough to you by PAL... Asia's first airline" something like that on TFC. You can even youtube PAL commercials and the only ones that I could find are ones from the good ole' days. I remember in the old days they had great commercials and advertisements. Bakit kaya?

It would be a great opportunity to get some commercials that promote eco-tourism or cultural tour of the Philippines.

Recent radio commercials here for the Philippines and PAL were so rare that there came as a surprise.
PAL does regularly give free flights at Filipino events here, partly as charity, partly for the promotion.

Talking about PAL. Had no luck getting todays flight down Sydney Airport.
Have other family things to do.
For what its worth, I did manage to score a DELTA jet, they apparently only started coming here a month ago in some agreement with Virgin. Much to the disgust of a few other airlines.

Tally Ho

alcogoodwin
July 25th, 2009, 04:53 AM
This is awesome mate!

Aside from the lights, does it come with sound effects as well? I can see a big speaker right there (or is it just a replica of an appliance company headquarters?)... :)

Makes me feel rather guilty about my lack of action on the PNR layout!
I would love to know the amount of hours he put into it.

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 05:07 AM
Anyway, again, moving on.

On a more personal note, I have just realized that I have one trip booked for every month from June to November, with October remaining iffy. My sched ended up appearing like this:

* 6/2-6/9: MNL-CEB-NRT-CEB-MNL, PR
* 7/31-8/2: MNL-SIN-MNL, 5Jfri-sun
* 8/19: MNL-CEB-MNL, Z2/PRwed
* 9/5: MNL-CEB-ILO-MNL, PR/2Psat
* 10/26-11/4 (?): MNL-NRT-MNL, unsure of the airline (maybe CI)
* 11/21: MNL-USU-MNL, PRsat

Yes, all of those trips will receive their own individual (and lengthy) TRs.

I have a feeling something will come up in December. I just have no idea what it is.

Didnt you say you (or from your blog) are a freshman or sophomore of Ateneo? Wow, ok pala studies mo to be absent on those days? Saturdays, I know wala na ang CMT, but I believe it was replaced with something called NSTP? Your family is really into travelling!:master:

Sky Harbor
July 25th, 2009, 05:19 AM
^^ I'm a freshman. No NSTP yet.

Anyway, about the dates:

* 7/31-8/3: weekend (leaving Friday night, returning early Monday morning; no classes missed)
* 8/19: Quezon City Day (no classes)
* 9/5: weekend (we have an INTACT activity scheduled the week before, but this should be okay)
* 11/21: weekend (no activities yet per the academic calendar)

Those trips are really planned using the academic calendar and a bit of foresight so that I don't miss anything (intentionally or otherwise). If I have schoolwork that needs to be done, I do it during the trip (as in the case of next weekend, where I have a Lit paper due on Monday).

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 05:27 AM
American Airline ternimal is the next building to international arrival. I just walk. The 3 hours is more than enough for a gap between flight. Immigration is not really a problem if your Pinas passport has plenty of tatak pabalikbalik sa US. If US passport only 10 minutes tops. Baggage has no problem as long as it is 50 lbs or less each. The airline you will take, will have a rep at the exit lobby waiting to have your luggage ship to a connecting flight. If it was inspected by LA custom do not bother to close because the TSA will inspect it again and tape it themselves. If nakatali ang baggage mo, ilagay mo ang tali sa luob ng luggage mo, TSA will cut it and throw it away. :ohno: That what happened to me as I used LA port of entry and proceeded to JFK on AA connection.
The only thing I do not like LA as port of entry because Pinoy custom and Immigration officers are more harsh than Puti personnel and I used US passport. They think that my US passport is fake even I attach a NY State pictured DMV I.D. with it.

Bai, I am taking PAL using the $475 2 day promo fare that I was able to get. Therefore, its not a check through thing. I have to literally transfer from international to American Airlines domestic route. How long would it take to clear the international side of LAX?

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 05:47 AM
Regarding my planned US trip taking PAL, I am trying to make sense on the new configuration on the refurbished 747s based on what is stated in wikipedia and the seat map on seat guru. According to seat guru, PAL's 747 has 3 versions, mabuhay/economy seating: version 1 56/335, version 2 42/383, version 3 50/383. According to wikipedia, version 3's 50/383 is the old configuration, and the new configuration would be 42/383, which is seat guru's version 2. That is for the 747-400. The lone 747-400M, which as per wikipedia, has 56/335 configuration, falls under the version 1. Which means the several times I took a Manila-Cebu or Cebu-Manila flight which utilized the 747, it had the version 1 configuration. This means that the 747s of PAL would have two seating configuration:
version 1:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Philippine_Airlines/Philippine_Airlines_Boeing_747-400.php
version 2:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Philippine_Airlines/Philippine_Airlines_Boeing_747-400_B.php

My point here is that I am planning to ask to pre-seat our group through a contact in PAL, but I am wondering which version to base my seating preference on.

kiretoce
July 25th, 2009, 05:50 AM
How long would it take to clear the international side of LAX?

That depends on what time in the day you arrive. If your flight arrives along with other planeloads of passengers from all parts of the world, clearing customs and immigration at LAX can take you an hour to an hour and a half (sometimes even two hours, worst case scenario). In off-peak hours, you can clear formalities in just twenty minutes.

Sky Harbor
July 25th, 2009, 05:52 AM
Regarding my planned US trip taking PAL, I am trying to make sense on the new configuration on the refurbished 747s based on what is stated in wikipedia and the seat map on seat guru. According to seat guru, PAL's 747 has 3 versions, mabuhay/economy seating: version 1 56/335, version 2 42/383, version 3 50/383. According to wikipedia, version 3's 50/383 is the old configuration, and the new configuration would be 42/383, which is seat guru's version 2. That is for the 747-400. The lone 747-400M, which as per wikipedia, has 56/335 configuration, falls under the version 1. Which means the several times I took a Manila-Cebu or Cebu-Manila flight which utilized the 747, it had the version 1 configuration. This means that the 747s of PAL would have two seating configuration:
version 1:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Philippine_Airlines/Philippine_Airlines_Boeing_747-400.php
version 2:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Philippine_Airlines/Philippine_Airlines_Boeing_747-400_B.php

My point here is that I am planning to ask to pre-seat our group through a contact in PAL, but I am wondering which version to base my seating preference on.

It's difficult to pre-seat though since you never know which 747 you'll get. You may either get a refurbished 747 (RP-C7471/7472/7473), the 74M (RP-C7475) or the non-refurbished 747 (RP-C8168). It's all in the cards (and the luck of the draw).

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 05:58 AM
That depends on what time in the day you arrive. If your flight arrives along with other planeloads of passengers from all parts of the world, clearing customs and immigration at LAX can take you an hour to an hour and a half (sometimes even two hours, worst case scenario). In off-peak hours, you can clear formalities in just twenty minutes.

PAL's 747 ETA LAX is 8pm. Would you say this is peak or offpeak? 2 summers ago, I took PAL's A340 which arrives LAX at around 6pm and that was chaotic. Long lines.

kiretoce
July 25th, 2009, 06:01 AM
^^ Flights from Asia usually arrive in the early evening hours. So expect a madhouse upon arrival. And your AA connecting flight is to where? You probably will catch the redeye if that's the case.

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 06:03 AM
It's difficult to pre-seat though since you never know which 747 you'll get. You may either get a refurbished 747 (RP-C7471/7472/7473), the 74M (RP-C7475) or the non-refurbished 747 (RP-C8168). It's all in the cards (and the luck of the draw).


Sayang. The 747M has a 6 seat area that is kinda exclusive. That would have been nice. Though I haven't sat at that area. With the 747M, I have sat at 31C, 61H, both emergency exits, and 63H which I liked better than the emergency exit area. Havent tried their business class as I havent been lucky enough to get bumped up on new 747. The A330, 340, 319, and 320s and the old 747 setup, yes, but not the refurbished 747s.

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 06:07 AM
^^ Flights from Asia usually arrive in the early evening hours. So expect a madhouse upon arrival. And your AA connecting flight is to where? You probably will catch the redeye if that's the case.

1140pm flight to Newark via Chicago. Taking AA on a multi destination route. After a week's stay, from Newark, going to Tulsa Oklahoma via Dallas. Also, what I am worried about is the 40 minute connecting time for my Newark-Dallas, and Dallas-Tulsa flight. I believe I can make it, as long as my Newark-Dallas is not delayed. (If delayed, I was told there is another flight 2 hours later) But will my check in luggage make the transfer as well?

kiretoce
July 25th, 2009, 06:13 AM
^^ Yup. That's a redeye flight. You'll be arriving at EWR early in the morning of the next day. Normally, connection times on US domestic flights, 30 minutes is enough. So you're good with your layover in DFW, but like you said, that is if your flight from EWR is on time. But personally, I hate DFW, the layout of the terminal is confusing at times. And about your checked luggage, it will make to your final destination, regardless.

swahi
July 25th, 2009, 06:18 AM
^^ Yup. That's a redeye flight. You'll be arriving at EWR early in the morning of the next day. Normally, connection times on US domestic flights, 30 minutes is enough. So you're good with your layover in DFW, but like you said, that is if your flight from EWR is on time. But personally, I hate DFW, the layout of the terminal is confusing at times. And about your checked luggage, it will make to your final destination, regardless.

Ok thanks. Looks good. But the "regardless" comment is a little worrisome. I am only staying overnight in Tulsa, taking the next morning flight to LA via DFW.

kiretoce
July 25th, 2009, 06:22 AM
^^ I didn't mean to worry you. If you checked in on time (and I mean ample time before the flight), you'll arrive with your luggage. But if you checked in late or near closing time, there's a possibility that your luggage might not travel with you on the flight. Personally, as a rule, I arrive at the airport two hours before my (domestic) flight and just while the time away at the terminal before my flight departs. I hate having to rush through the motions at the airport trying to catch my flight.

pi_malejana
July 25th, 2009, 08:41 AM
from RTV malacanang...

0wkOKxg--Ao

may unlimited travel pass for one year pala ang 36th million passenger...:D

kiretoce
July 25th, 2009, 08:59 AM
^^ Such an arbitrary number.

pi_malejana
July 25th, 2009, 09:00 AM
^^ what number?? one or 36 million??? :D

kiretoce
July 25th, 2009, 09:02 AM
^^ 36 million.

AmbutLang
July 25th, 2009, 10:54 AM
1140pm flight to Newark via Chicago. Taking AA on a multi destination route. After a week's stay, from Newark, going to Tulsa Oklahoma via Dallas. Also, what I am worried about is the 40 minute connecting time for my Newark-Dallas, and Dallas-Tulsa flight. I believe I can make it, as long as my Newark-Dallas is not delayed. (If delayed, I was told there is another flight 2 hours later) But will my check in luggage make the transfer as well?

DFW is AA HUB Airport. Do not hesitate to ask for assistance from AA personnel once you arrive DFW. Airport terminal A layout

http://www.dfwairport.com/terminals/a.php

As Kimber said 8 PM arrival at LA is a rush hour type, fave arrival time of international flights. It is the same situations at JFK. It might take you an hour to exit after the custom.
AA is at terminal 4 that is as you exit the international arrival building, the building at your right is terminal 4. Happy trip

Sou-jiro
July 25th, 2009, 04:28 PM
How big are the models? Some of them look quite large.
I would dearly love to get a large scale PAL 747 to display.

I had to move my train collection to the garage. Not because of room, but due to the asawa telling me it was them or myself moving up there :lol::lol:

Am only new to plane photography myself, having photographed trains/buses most of my life.
Hopefully see you down Sydney Airport some time. I usually go down there Saturday mornings to get the PAL flight, but other days when I have nothing to do usually results in a trip down there.
I am only 10 minutes away afterall :lol:

Brad

I also have 1:200 scale PAL place larger ones the those one..they are 1:400 but i also have 1:500 scale Pal place including they're old 737-300..

yes.. its mad fun in Sydney Airport i usually go to the beach..
near the runway right next to the fence as long as you stay 3 meter from the fence the security are ok...the are aware that there is a large aviation enthusiast community in Sydney "they were even featured on channel 7" so that helps..aside from photos i have many videos im thinking of putting on youtube...just kinda hesitating a bit..but i'll probably end up uploading it anyway :D
hehe maybe one time i'll run into you there one time...have fun spotting.:)

i will attempt to do some spotting from a distance from NAIA (this is probably suicide :D) i just notice how under represented NAIA both in Jetphotos and A.net

you should get a radio...i recorded a conversation between a PAL A333 Pilot and Sydney Tower recently..it was cool..

Sou-jiro
July 25th, 2009, 04:38 PM
This is awesome mate!

Aside from the lights, does it come with sound effects as well? I can see a big speaker right there (or is it just a replica of an appliance company headquarters?)... :)


thank you..yes it has sound..it use to have a runway light and a spinnig radar but that was too much wires and mess so i took if off :)

alcogoodwin
July 26th, 2009, 03:23 AM
i will attempt to do some spotting from a distance from NAIA (this is probably suicide :D) i just notice how under represented NAIA both in Jetphotos and A.net

you should get a radio...i recorded a conversation between a PAL A333 Pilot and Sydney Tower recently..it was cool..

It seems to be hard to get photos in Manila, I can't say I have ever seen any sort of a fenceline, just structures anywhere I have gone past.

That being said, I have not put in a lot of time trying to get shots. Most of mine have been while arriving and departing.

Would dearly love to know a location where you can go in Manila to get clear shots of the runway without getting shot in the process.

Brad

hikouki
July 26th, 2009, 04:04 AM
That depends on what time in the day you arrive. If your flight arrives along with other planeloads of passengers from all parts of the world, clearing customs and immigration at LAX can take you an hour to an hour and a half (sometimes even two hours, worst case scenario). In off-peak hours, you can clear formalities in just twenty minutes.

...
As Kimber said 8 PM arrival at LA is a rush hour type, fave arrival time of international flights. It is the same situations at JFK. It might take you an hour to exit after the custom.
AA is at terminal 4 that is as you exit the international arrival building, the building at your right is terminal 4. Happy trip

My flight was scheduled to arrive LAX at 21:25 but we got there early at around 20:15 or so. A PAL 744 was at the same wing at TBIT where my plane docked. I could see we were the only arrival at that time and most of the immigration counters were already closing. At the luggage claims area, the "PAL" and "Cathay" carousels were already empty. I think we were the last scheduled arrival that evening and the other flights had arrived early as well.

ianers_ianized
July 26th, 2009, 06:16 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3749249702_1d23599094.jpg?v=0


Wow, you have good collection... anung brand yan Herpa?

WawaY[625]
July 26th, 2009, 07:41 AM
lahat ba ng PAL a320 eh recaro seats (tama ba term ko)? I saw sa ad kasi nila dati na may mga special seats sila

Sky Harbor
July 26th, 2009, 07:42 AM
^^ Nope. There are three different kinds of seats on the A320s. Only the newer A320s (RP-C8604 to 16) have Recaro seats.

WawaY[625]
July 26th, 2009, 08:17 AM
so tsambahan lang yan? A320 daw kasi ang gagamitin sa MNL-DVO flight ko eh

diehardbisdak
July 26th, 2009, 08:38 AM
:)



excerpt from the airline network news and analysis website

Manila dominates Philippines traffic as Cebu Pacific and Philippine Airlines vie for domestic dominance

The Philippines consists of over 7,000 separate islands in the western Pacific Ocean and with an estimated population of over 90 million, air travel is playing a critical part in the country’s rapid economic development. According to OAG data there are currently 38 airports offering scheduled services. Of these just six offer international flights and three of them have just two weekly international services. This leaves Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila (MNL), Mactan-Cebu (CEB) and Diosdado Macapagal (CRK) as the only real international gateways.

Traffic growth has been impressive in recent years though the 2006 figure for ‘Other’ airports would appear to be an underestimate as Cebu’s traffic data appears to be missing for much of the year. In 2007 Mactan-Cebu handled just over four million annual passengers while Clark processed just over half a million passengers.

The busiest domestic airports after Manila and Cebu are Davao (DVO), Iloilo (ILO), Caticlan (MPH) and Cagayan de Oro (CGY). Both Davao (1.7 million) and Iloilo (1.1 million) handled more than one million passengers in 2008.

Source (http://www.anna.aero/2009/07/24/manila-dominates-philippines-traffic-as-cebu-pacific-and-philippine-airlines-vie-for-domestic-dominance/)

Sky Harbor
July 26th, 2009, 09:57 AM
;40322212']so tsambahan lang yan? A320 daw kasi ang gagamitin sa MNL-DVO flight ko eh

Well, it's the same for the 747 that I'm taking to MNL from CEB on the 19th.

romantic_guy08
July 26th, 2009, 10:13 AM
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Sale and ticketing
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USA
01 September to 25 December 2009

Below are the applicable routes and ALL-IN fares in USD. Prices listed below are inclusive of surcharges, and exclusive of government taxes and other fees that are to be collected at the airport.


To From MANILA From CEBU From DAVAO
SAN FRANCISCO/
LOS ANGELES/
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HONOLULU 468 508 528

SYDNEY/
MELBOURNE 468 498 518

OSAKA 218 248 268

BEIJING 298 318 348

SHANGHAI 198 218 248

JAKARTA 158 188 208

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TAIPEI 98 128 148

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REGIONALS AND HONOLULU
Valid for outbound travel from 16 August through 30 September 2009.

MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY:

USA
Minimum 3 days and maximum 21 days stay

AUSTRALIA
Minimum 2 days and maximum 21 days stay

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yhuanista07
July 26th, 2009, 08:27 PM
QUESTION:

anong pinagkaiba ng intraline at interline passenger??? required ba clng magbayad ng terminal fee???

Sky Harbor
July 26th, 2009, 08:53 PM
^^ Intraline passengers only fly one airline through to their final destination, while interline passengers fly more than one airline on a single itinerary (hence the term "interline agreement"). If you are transiting through a Philippine airport, you do not need to pay the terminal fee.

yhuanista07
July 26th, 2009, 09:56 PM
^^ Intraline passengers only fly one airline through to their final destination, while interline passengers fly more than one airline on a single itinerary (hence the term "interline agreement"). If you are transiting through a Philippine airport, you do not need to pay the terminal fee.


tnx... i have a project kc... and it's about designing an airport... :cheers::cheers::cheers:

pthfndr19
July 26th, 2009, 10:42 PM
SEAIR flies Cebu - Caticlan v.v. starting August 7.:D

lewdsaint
July 27th, 2009, 01:26 PM
NAIA old terminal photo taken this afternoon.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2193/picture006qyn.jpg

Sky Harbor
July 27th, 2009, 01:34 PM
This a big "OMG" moment for PAL (I hope). I originally found the article in PEx without a link, but I was able to trace it back to the Manila Times.

----

PAL to resume flights to Europe (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/july/27/yehey/business/20090727bus14.html)

PHILIPPINE Airlines (PAL) is mulling over the resumption of flights to Europe after the Philippine air panel completed an air service agreement (ASA) with the United Kingdom, a high-ranking official of the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) said.

Carmelo Arcilla, CAB executive director told reporters that the flag carrier expressed interest to fly to the UK. “We cannot discount the possibility that PAL [would be] resuming its flights to Europe,” he said.

The Philippine and UK governments have agreed to 14 weekly flights to Manila and or Clark and to other points in the country.

Since the start of the year, the CAB had completed air talks with Singapore, Brunei, Australia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and United Arab Emirates.

He said that about 300,000 Filipinos are working in the UK, adding that “there’s really a huge demand.”

PAL’s flight to Europe was discontinued in 1998 after the Asian financial crisis nearly sent the flag carrier into bankruptcy.

At end-March, PAL’s network covered 29 points in the Philippines and 31 international destinations.

It carried an average of 24,508 passengers (14,699 domestic and 9,809 international) and 297 tons of cargo (166 tons domestic and 131 tons international) per day.

The airline held a 45.2-percent share in the domestic market in the fiscal year-ending March, while it cornered 36.6 percent of the trans-Pacific market and 31.6 percent for Asia and Australia.

The airline has 47 operating aircraft, including Airbus 320 and 319, Boeing 747-400, and Bombardiers.

By end 2009, PAL expects the arrival of its two, brand-new and fuel-efficient B777-300ER aircraft from Boeing Co.

PAL earlier reported a net loss of $301 million in the fiscal year ending March from a net profit of $30.6 million in the same period last year.

It said revenues rose by almost 10 percent to $1.6 billion during the period.
-- Darwin G. Amojelar

kiretoce
July 27th, 2009, 03:54 PM
^^ It states that PAL is "mulling," meaning that nothing concrete is really in the pipeline for the near future. But it doesn't hurt to dream either. ;)

Sky Harbor
July 27th, 2009, 04:04 PM
^^ They'll have to sometime: Garuda Indonesia, immediately after being removed from the EU blacklist, already announced their intention to serve London and Amsterdam from Jakarta.

kiretoce
July 27th, 2009, 04:20 PM
^^ Saying is one thing. But actually implementing it is another thing. Sometimes all these announcements are just lipservice anyway.

TeslaCoil
July 27th, 2009, 05:20 PM
^^ We know that mod and PAL is really conservative in terms of expansion but the market for Europe is really a reality. It would be better if they will first serve Italy since Pinoys there are all over the place. London is very viable. I hope PAL will immediately open their flight soon. This gave me chills LOL!

sonnyville
July 27th, 2009, 08:42 PM
Future European Routes ng PAL? These are I think the ones in consideration. 2 were former routes, and both were viable- Frankurt and London.

London
Milan/Rome
Frankfurt am Main
Amsterdam

London, to serve the large Filipino community there. LHR is an important hub, gateway to Europe, and connecting point. Lots of North American-Western Europe-Central Europe connections. So pinoys who are in Ireland, France, Southwestern Europe like Spain and Portugal can easily transit and catch a PAL flight rather than fly all the way to Amsterdam. PAL could even establish codeshare with the regional airlines in Europe for passengers connecting them with PAL to MNL. We are all aware of the government agreements between the RP and Spain on possible flights between the two countries. But it wouldn't be practical for PAL as PAL has specific targeted markets. Mainly large Pinoy communities. Either ways, Iberia wouldn't fly it's aircrafts to MNL either. It wouldn't be profitable for them either. Spaniards won't come to the Philippines for Holidays when they can cross the Atlantic for a shorter flight time to South or Central America and they wouldn't have problems with Language barriers.

Milan/Rome are important. The large Pinoy communities also there, but Rome is also an important destination for many Pinoys. There's a large population of Pinoys living in Rome, but also large numbers of tour groups and pilgrimage to the Vatican.

Frankfurt am Main in Germany is an important Gateway to central Europe. It is a hub and connecting point for many airlines, particularly, the largest airline in Europe, Lufthansa. PAL has and had strong ties with Lufthansa. Many flights that are outbound Europe, have connections to Frankfurt am Main. This would allow many Filipinos in Germany, and in any central European country to connect and get on PAL flight in Frankfurt am Main. And if I'm not mistaken, PAL used to service Frankfurt. Quite a large number of Filipinos in Frankfurt and areas near Bonn and Dusseldorf. I would highly think that its more practical to serve Frankfurt than the failed return of service at Paris. PAL tried to return to Paris, but failed. Frankfurt is more viable.

Amsterdam is also an important hub and gateway to Europe. KLM has also had a long history of partnership with PAL. Not sure how KLM will respond if PAL decides to fly it's own aircraft to Amsterdam. Naka codeshare agreements ba sila? Possible codeshares with KLM siguro. Or Alternating use of equipment between the airlines. Anyways, Many of the Scandinavian countries such as Sweden, Denmark, Norway, etc. employ many Filipinos in their health care system. There are large numbers of Filipinos who keep their coveted health care system running. Amsterdam is an excellent destination to target these Filipino communities. Marami din mga Northwestern Europeans who flock to the resorts of the Southern and Central Philippines. So far KLM has a monopoly on the European route to MNL. KLM brings in a large number of European tourists to the Philippines also, direct pa.

Sky Harbor
July 28th, 2009, 12:40 AM
Future European Routes ng PAL? These are I think the ones in consideration. 2 were former routes, and both were viable- Frankurt and London.

London
Milan/Rome
Frankfurt am Main
Amsterdam


Save for MXP, all of those were former PAL destinations. The others were MAD, ZRH, ATH and CDG. I'm actually surprised that Paris is missing from that shortlist!

sonnyville
July 28th, 2009, 01:47 AM
i think off and on yung service nila sa Paris before, ng restart sila uli a long time ago pero short lived, it wasn't profitable for them kaya discontinued. an a342/742 used to ply that route bago ng pull out sila from Paris for good. Naisip ko rin yang ZRH, pero meron bang sustainable and profitable market sa ZRH for PAL? Maybe ZRH is a better choice than CDG? Switzerland has more or less only about 100,000 Filipinos living there, and Zurich is not that far from Milan or Bern. It is about 3 hours more or less by car from Zurich to Milan, and probably much less by HSR between the two cities. So not sure if PAL needs to service both cities?

Sou-jiro
July 28th, 2009, 03:27 AM
It seems to be hard to get photos in Manila, I can't say I have ever seen any sort of a fenceline, just structures anywhere I have gone past.

That being said, I have not put in a lot of time trying to get shots. Most of mine have been while arriving and departing.

Would dearly love to know a location where you can go in Manila to get clear shots of the runway without getting shot in the process.

Brad


i dont know any location myself..that is one of my goals on my next trip...this wilbe a tough one :D

Sou-jiro
July 28th, 2009, 03:29 AM
Wow, you have good collection... anung brand yan Herpa?

they are 1:400,.... nope they're not herpa...they are a mixture of dragonwings gemini jets and phoenix also some tucano live (the 5J ones)
My herpa's are 1;500.

I hope PAL does return to LHR and in Frankfurt...it will be a big decision but there is clearly market and demnd there..Rome too..even its not going to be a daily fllight i think atleast 3 times a week would be a start but they really need those 777s now(atleast 2..soon)...those widebodies they have are so stretch to the limit...If Garuda can Fly there, PAL should follow too..i think most if not all of our neighbours fly to europe..(unless you want to count Burma...lol...no dis)..

Sky Harbor
July 28th, 2009, 04:09 AM
i think off and on yung service nila sa Paris before, ng restart sila uli a long time ago pero short lived, it wasn't profitable for them kaya discontinued. an a342/742 used to ply that route bago ng pull out sila from Paris for good. Naisip ko rin yang ZRH, pero meron bang sustainable and profitable market sa ZRH for PAL? Maybe ZRH is a better choice than CDG? Switzerland has more or less only about 100,000 Filipinos living there, and Zurich is not that far from Milan or Bern. It is about 3 hours more or less by car from Zurich to Milan, and probably much less by HSR between the two cities. So not sure if PAL needs to service both cities?

With AF, AZ, LX, BA and LH having pulled out of Manila, if and when PAL were to commence service to MXP, FCO, CDG, FRA, LHR or ZRH, it would have a monopoly on those routes for O-D traffic out of MNL and domestic stations. Connecting traffic though is a different story, with PR competing against standalone Asian carriers (MH, VN), Asian carriers in an alliance (TG, SQ, CX and their partners) and Middle Eastern carriers (GF, EK, EY, QR, SV). It's the competition for connecting traffic that scares PAL out of Europe, if I'm not mistaken.

Sky Harbor
July 28th, 2009, 04:36 AM
^^ We know that mod and PAL is really conservative in terms of expansion but the market for Europe is really a reality. It would be better if they will first serve Italy since Pinoys there are all over the place. London is very viable. I hope PAL will immediately open their flight soon. This gave me chills LOL!

There's a reason why PAL is very conservative now with expansion, and that is because it does not want to repeat its expansion binge in the 1990s, which ended disastrously. It's also the same reason why major world airlines laugh at PAL when it starts new destinations that they wouldn't start themselves, like MNL-YVR-LAS (which is still going strong after five years, contrary to the majors' expectations). It's all in the dynamics of the market.

I'm still hoping though that one day, PAL will join the six-continent club!

arianespace
July 28th, 2009, 10:42 AM
^^
Hey, PAL was a world airline in the 50's even before Singapore and Malaysia Airlines were born. Remember they were the first Asian airline to fly to Europe in 1949 all the way to London. Cathay Pacific got there in 1976.

All I can say is there is still room for them there, and with their conservative attitude towards growth, its already in the bag as they start flexing their wings after rehab. They want to fly to 4 points in Europe soon after the US expansion.

Definitely London is one of them and Frankfurt is the other and the third one is Rome.

As with the fourth one, I really can't tell where. It could be Paris, Athens or Madrid but definitely not Amsterdam. It might as well be Moscow with the flood of Russian tourist we have.

romantic_guy08
July 28th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Bomb threat grounds SilkAir MI 541 from Cebu to Singapore
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 28 July 2009 1627 hrs

SINGAPORE: Over 130 passengers and crew from a SilkAir flight have been evacuated following a bomb threat.

MI 541 was due to depart from the Philippines' Cebu airport at 1.30pm on Tuesday for Singapore.

But airport authorities received news of the suspected bomb minutes before take-off.

A hotline caller to Channel NewsAsia described seeing police surrounding the plane.

In a statement to Channel NewsAsia, SilkAir said all 127 passengers and seven crew members left the plane "in a calm and orderly manner", and are now in one of the boarding gatehold rooms at Cebu airport.

"We treat every incident seriously and will take all necessary measures to ensure that the safety and security of our passengers are not compromised," said a SilkAir spokesman.

The passengers have been served meals and refreshments and SilkAir said they are also being updated on the situation as and when there are new developments.

All baggage and cargo have also been offloaded and are in the process of another round of security checks. The plane has been moved to an isolation bay at the airport for police inspections.

The matter is currently being investigated.

- CNA/yt


http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/southeastasia/view/445179/1/.html

Rodel
July 28th, 2009, 03:44 PM
^^ We know that mod and PAL is really conservative in terms of expansion but the market for Europe is really a reality. It would be better if they will first serve Italy since Pinoys there are all over the place. London is very viable. I hope PAL will immediately open their flight soon. This gave me chills LOL!

PAL has a MNL-Frankfurt route before.

Sky Harbor
July 28th, 2009, 05:36 PM
^^
Hey, PAL was a world airline in the 50's even before Singapore and Malaysia Airlines were born. Remember they were the first Asian airline to fly to Europe in 1949 all the way to London. Cathay Pacific got there in 1976.

I don't think PAL ever served South America. When it gets there (in addition to restoring Europe and Africa services), then I'll consider it a bonafide member of the six-continent club. :D

sonnyville
July 28th, 2009, 06:48 PM
GRU sana... haha. i just saw the picture at Airliners.net of the Presidential Plane, a PAL a343 sa GRU ata in Brazil for some special event between the RP and Brazil. the Brazilian A.net photographers are quite awed by their distant guest. it would be cool if PAL did fly there, like KE and JAL. KE does ICN-LAX-GRU and JAL does NRT-JFK-GRU, it would certainly be one of PAL's longest routes. 5th freedom rights i think.

Sky Harbor
July 28th, 2009, 07:13 PM
^^ If I were to choose, it could be a toss-up between GRU, EZE, SCL or GIG. However, PAL should at least have the audacity to start service first to Latin America's most important city: MEX.

sonnyville
July 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qatar-Emiri-Air/Boeing-C-17-Globemaster/1559021/L/

thought this was cool...
di na lang PAL colors noh? lol

Sou-jiro
July 29th, 2009, 08:28 AM
what are the change that All five of PALs 744 would have been refurbished by nov09?..
I mean what are we up to now?..3 ?..are they working on the fourth yet? or is that delayed as well?

hikouki
July 29th, 2009, 08:38 AM
^^
Hey, PAL was a world airline in the 50's even before Singapore and Malaysia Airlines were born. Remember they were the first Asian airline to fly to Europe in 1949 all the way to London. Cathay Pacific got there in 1976.

All I can say is there is still room for them there, and with their conservative attitude towards growth, its already in the bag as they start flexing their wings after rehab. They want to fly to 4 points in Europe soon after the US expansion.

...

And the Philippines was one of the leading and most economically developed Asian nation in those days, too. We were the center of economics back when Singapore was just a fishing port and other nations were just vast swamplands.

The thing is, I don't see PAL really conquering the world without the Philippine economy progressing as a whole. For one, we cannot even open an airport terminal properly, and the nation's premiere gateway at that.

hikouki
July 29th, 2009, 08:43 AM
^^ If I were to choose, it could be a toss-up between GRU, EZE, SCL or GIG. However, PAL should at least have the audacity to start service first to Latin America's most important city: MEX.

I think PAL used to serve MEX? I saw a photo of their DC-8 in Mexico somewhere...

sonnyville
July 29th, 2009, 09:00 AM
One of the PAL 744 will not undergo the new reconfiguration or changes. I don't know what the registration is on that particular 744, but its one of the older 744. So it's only 4 of the 5 744 that will be refurbished. The a343s maybe the next ones after the last 744.

Sou-jiro
July 29th, 2009, 11:59 AM
^^ must be the one being returned to Air Canada..

sana na extend na lang lease nito...PAL really needs more wide bodies lalo na ngayon Christmas season period is looming..

(i though i read somewhere this was indeed extended)

alcogoodwin
July 29th, 2009, 12:26 PM
~~ AUSSIE IN SUBIC ~~

Don't know if this has been mentioned previously.

Cobham Air (Adelaide Australia) sold BAe 146-100 VH-NJE to a new owner in Subic recently.
No idea what registration it is now.

hikouki
July 29th, 2009, 02:28 PM
One of the PAL 744 will not undergo the new reconfiguration or changes. I don't know what the registration is on that particular 744, but its one of the older 744. So it's only 4 of the 5 744 that will be refurbished. The a343s maybe the next ones after the last 744.

Someone posted on the other forum that RP-C8168 will also be reconfigured but not with the same Recaro seats as the other four.

Still according to the same poster, RP-C8168 was due to be returned but its lease was renewed instead in exchange for the twice weekly increase in frequencies to YVR. (I think AirCanada which owns the aircraft has been blocking PR's request for frequencies prior to this.)

numiX
July 30th, 2009, 12:08 PM
A DC 03 got stuck in runway 13/31 this afternoon causing congestion at NAIA. AGAIN......:bash:

jogavilz
July 30th, 2009, 12:08 PM
I found this on Airliners.net. does anyone have news about this airline?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/8/3/1559382.jpg

sloanesquare
July 30th, 2009, 12:19 PM
I found this on Airliners.net. does anyone have news about this airline?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/8/3/1559382.jpg

too close to garuda livery...should change it

Sky Harbor
July 30th, 2009, 12:26 PM
^^ At least SOMA is finally getting started.

jogavilz
July 30th, 2009, 12:29 PM
^^ so they no longer operate in spirit hahahaha

BULLDOG
July 30th, 2009, 12:39 PM
too close to garuda livery...should change it


That's Spirit of Manila and Hub nito sa DMIA, Clark

mhek
July 30th, 2009, 12:46 PM
ganda ng logo, sarimanok, pinoy na pinoy.

patlite_boy
July 30th, 2009, 12:50 PM
I found this on Airliners.net. does anyone have news about this airline?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/8/3/1559382.jpg


^^naunahan mo akong mag post.:bash:

That airplane will be their 1st. Katabing company namin yan dito sa Clark

Sky Harbor
July 30th, 2009, 12:55 PM
^^ If they're starting off with a lone MD-83, I wonder what will happen with their supposed fleet of 737s and 767s.

patlite_boy
July 30th, 2009, 01:21 PM
^^ If they're starting off with a lone MD-83, I wonder what will happen with their supposed fleet of 737s and 767s.

Same on what happened to Tair Airways and Transglobal Airways. Most of their employees came from Transglobal including the CEO I think:ohno:

"ZukiChirO"
July 30th, 2009, 03:36 PM
^^ At least SOMA is finally getting started.

^^ If they're starting off with a lone MD-83, I wonder what will happen with their supposed fleet of 737s and 767s.

It says on their site that the MD-83 will focus on the domestic routes while the 737s and 767s are for international destinations.BUT it seems that their rights to serve in the following planned routes are yet pending by the government approval...why is that?

Same on what happened to Tair Airways and Transglobal Airways. Most of their employees came from Transglobal including the CEO I think:ohno:

what happened to Tair Airways and Transglobal Airways and also the Pacific Pearl Airways..are their all Charter Planes?^^

Ozzie1969
July 30th, 2009, 03:50 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/mbn02g.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2u885zp.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/fd7mab.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2mepvep.jpg

weewit
July 30th, 2009, 05:03 PM
where's everybody in the airport? yooohooooo... anybody home???

Sky Harbor
July 30th, 2009, 06:03 PM
^^ OMC looks okay, but for an airport serving a city of its size, it sure looks sleepy.

Ozzie1969
July 30th, 2009, 09:32 PM
^^ OMC looks okay, but for an airport serving a city of its size, it sure looks sleepy.

Those pictures were taken in July last year, and PAL Express wasn't flying there yet at the time.

Sou-jiro
July 31st, 2009, 02:16 AM
Sprit of Manila livery looks nice to me...its very Pinoy..

Rall
July 31st, 2009, 02:48 AM
I found this on Airliners.net. does anyone have news about this airline?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/8/3/1559382.jpg

nice... saan ang flight nito?

patlite_boy
July 31st, 2009, 08:16 AM
nice... saan ang flight nito?

makikita flight details sa www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com^^

Sou-jiro
July 31st, 2009, 08:49 AM
its nice to see MDs in Philippines...not many of them in PI only two i know...thata one & the other with zest?...unless they got rid of it too?

Rall
July 31st, 2009, 10:25 AM
makikita flight details sa www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com^^

salamat:)

OceanBreezeInn
July 31st, 2009, 05:12 PM
Operations at the Caticlan airport was suspended again on Friday after the tires of a SEAIR plane burst upon landing.

None of the 28 passengers and three crewmembers on board the aircraft was hurt but the airport had to be closed....

The airport remained closed as of 3 p.m. Friday because the plane could not be moved from the runway.


Source: inquirer (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20090731-218149/Caticlan-airport-closed-once-more)

ivanc
July 31st, 2009, 06:51 PM
just a question,

is PAL the most affordable way to get from Cebu to SFO? Thanks

pthfndr19
July 31st, 2009, 10:23 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/SpiritOfManila737.jpg

mhek
July 31st, 2009, 11:52 PM
ganda ng MANILA

laki pa ng font, kitang kita. :)

kiretoce
August 1st, 2009, 03:36 AM
just a question,

is PAL the most affordable way to get from Cebu to SFO? Thanks

I'm not sure about the price, but it's the most convenient carrier between those two points.

BULLDOG
August 1st, 2009, 11:03 AM
^^naunahan mo akong mag post.:bash:

That airplane will be their 1st. Katabing company namin yan dito sa Clark



Meaning Spirit of Manila Airlines will be expanding their flights? sana unahin nila ang Bahrain dito sa Middle East dahil capture nila ang market pati Eastern part of Saudi Arabia.

BULLDOG
August 1st, 2009, 11:04 AM
Bakit nga pala walang domestic flight an Spirit of Manila?

boom_box
August 1st, 2009, 04:36 PM
^^ Why would you fly destinations with only few planes.. hehe... lugi sila nyan sa gas.. tapos mahina pa marketing nila...

ianers_ianized
August 1st, 2009, 06:30 PM
GRU sana... haha. i just saw the picture at Airliners.net of the Presidential Plane, a PAL a343 sa GRU ata in Brazil for some special event between the RP and Brazil. the Brazilian A.net photographers are quite awed by their distant guest. it would be cool if PAL did fly there, like KE and JAL. KE does ICN-LAX-GRU and JAL does NRT-JFK-GRU, it would certainly be one of PAL's longest routes. 5th freedom rights i think.

^^ If I were to choose, it could be a toss-up between GRU, EZE, SCL or GIG. However, PAL should at least have the audacity to start service first to Latin America's most important city: MEX.

PAL flying to South America would be a good idea. But market? It wouldn't pick enough incomes or traffic.
Although MEX is not part of South America, I think Chile has the most number of Pinoy communities in the SA countinent.

Sky Harbor
August 2nd, 2009, 05:17 AM
^^ They can always codeshare with AM (Aeromexico) for Central America and either AV (Avianca) or LA (Lan) for South America.

vynzdelz
August 2nd, 2009, 05:23 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/SpiritOfManila737.jpg

bagong airline company ba to??? ngayon ko lang nakita to ahhh....!!!!

BULLDOG
August 2nd, 2009, 10:59 AM
^^ Why would you fly destinations with only few planes.. hehe... lugi sila nyan sa gas.. tapos mahina pa marketing nila...


I just need specific answer anyway......not speculation ...... sana kong walang tamang maisagot sa tanong wag na mangarap sumagot dahil maraming forumers na mas may alam :ohno::ohno::ohno: PEACE ON EARTH :lol::lol:

Rodel
August 2nd, 2009, 12:22 PM
sino owner ng spirit of manila?

Rodel
August 2nd, 2009, 12:28 PM
this is what i got about spirit of manila (from wikipedia)

The Spirit of Manila Airlines plans to serve the following destinations (begins September 2009): [1]


East Asia
China
Macau - Macau International Airport [begins 15 October; Pending government approval]
Taiwan
Taipei - Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport [begins 2 October; Pending government approval]

Southeast Asia
Philippines
Angeles City - Diosdado Macapagal International Airport [begins 2 September; Pending government approval] Base

Southwest Asia
Bahrain
Al Muharraq - Bahrain International Airport [begins 2 September; Pending government approval]
United Arab Emirates
Dubai - Dubai International Airport [begins 2 September; Pending government approval]

kiretoce
August 2nd, 2009, 01:20 PM
^^ All their destinations are "pending" status, therefore we won't be seeing them flying anytime soon.

Chrisvenz
August 2nd, 2009, 02:32 PM
Canada's new visa rule contradicts flight policy
As it denies additional Entitlement to Philippine Airlines

August 2, 2009

Vancouver- Canada recently lifted the transit visa with the hope of attracting new carriers and travelers to consider Canada's struggling airports adversely hit by global recession. Already, passenger traffic at Vancouver airport is down by 14.6%.

Nationals from the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand and Taiwan traveling with Philippine Airlines, China Airlines and Cathay Pacific Airways were made eligible to participate on the exemption program.

Foreign travelers going through Vancouver International Airport en route to or from the U.S. will no longer need a Canadian transit visa, according to a government announcement this week.

"Removing the requirement for a Canadian transit visa will make Canadian airports more attractive for international travelers going to and from the United States," Immigration Minister Jason Kenney says. "This will help airports expand their business, which will in turn have a positive impact on the local economy."

However, Its new policy of enticing airlines to consider Canada as Transit point contradicts its close door policy on opening more its skies to Asian Carriers particularly Philippine Airlines which announced reduction of flights to the western gateway due to disagreements with lease payments on the use of Air Canada's entitlement.

Canada does not have an Open Skies agreement with any Asian country. Virtually all of the Canada‘s bilateral agreements with Asian countries are restrictive, limiting which airlines should be allowed to serve particular airport pairs, how many flights should be allowed and how airfares should be regulated.

Philippine Airlines was granted additional landing rights by the Canadian government at Vancouver airport in May 30, 2008 equivalent to only 6 days a week from the previous entitlement of 4 times a week. According to the Ministry of Transport, the new ASA will provide greater market access options for airlines from both countries but so far remains restrictive.

“We have been asking the Philippine government to negotiate with Canadian government for an additional entitlement of fourteen times a week since 2005 but only two were given to us” Jaime Bautista, PAL president said.

PAL currently flies to and from Canada with seven entitlements as it borrows one flight from Air Canada, which is not utilizing its entitlements. It flies to Vancouver daily while four flights has connections to Las Vegas in the United States. However, the borrowed entitlement will end this October.

Bautista said the additional flight entitlements should allow PAL to revive its operation in Chicago and New York on a four-three split while the other three will go to San Diego, California. But since they are not permitted by the DOT to introduced new route while the FAA downgrade is in effect they are constrained to stop at Vancouver.

ACA's current dispute with PAL appears to anchor on its use of the triple seven in November which is bigger than the current A340-300 which seats 264. Apparently, ACA is negotiating for more from what PAL is presently paying for the right to use the B777 which seats 350.

Air Canada's objection to Philippine Airlines expansion is well founded. Its restraint is benefiting the airline from the current capacity shortage situation on the direct flight to Manila because they route many of Air Canada passengers to/from Manila via Seoul with its code-share partner airlines Asiana which is using the B747 on the route as compared to Korean and Philippine Airlines A330 service.

The 2008 Air Services Agreement with the Philippines list seat capacity as one of the negotiating points in the Confidential Annexes and changing capacity will definitely mixed up things from the present set-up says an Air Canada employee who does not want to be identified. According to the Ministry of Transport, PAL was hoping to fly to Canada twice daily in 2010.

Meanwhile, Canada's Ministry of Transport Policy Report on Bilateral Air Services Agreement in Asia-Pacific Region which was submitted in December 2008, suggest that Canada‘s current bilateral ASA's do not serve the economic interest of Canada by imposing constraints on the growth of Canada‘s trade, investment, tourism, logistics, education and other related industries as well as constraining growth opportunities for the air transport sector itself.

This economic costs imposed by the restrictive bilateral ASAs are especially high in British Columbia, where the economy depends heavily on trade, investment, tourism and the export of education services to Asian countries.

Analysis on Open Sky policy with the Philippines translates in the long run with a 24% reduction in fare and 39% increase of passenger volume within one year. Its flag carrier which has 6 triple seven on order has been very vocal to make Vancouver its hub in North America as it intends to open connecting routes to San Diego, New York and Chicago soon.

With the Canadian government considering open skies agreement with China, South Korea and the Philippines in 2010 leading to the Vancouver Winter Olympic games, PAL's expansion plan to North America remains to be seen as it announces further deferral on the delivery of its four long haul aircraft in 2013.

The Philippines have a significant economic and social ties to British Columbia. The total trade between Canada and Philippines reached $1.2 billion in 2007 ($458 million export and $765.7 million import). 30% of Canada‘s export to Philippines goes through BC. There has been steady increase in the number of travelers from Philippines to BC over the last decade reaching 35,883 in 2006.

The bulk of PAL's flights from the Philippines to Canada are booked by overseas Filipino workers. There are 80,000 Filipinos living in Vancouver. The load factor for the flights has been over 90 percent despite the global recession. Air Canada does not have any immediate plan to use its flight entitlements to open direct flights to Manila due to the shortage of long-haul aircraft.
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ianers_ianized
August 2nd, 2009, 02:52 PM
Speaking of Garuda Indonesia mentioning here... I love their new livery.. so beautiful!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/GA-newlogo.jpg
I hope they fly here again...

BULLDOG
August 2nd, 2009, 03:50 PM
^^ All their destinations are "pending" status, therefore we won't be seeing them flying anytime soon.

I thought Spirit of Manila have started already with flight to Macau and Taiwan?

dexter06
August 2nd, 2009, 06:05 PM
[b]Speaking of Garuda Indonesia mentioning here... I love their new livery.. so beautiful!
I hope they fly here again...

Ianers, i have tried Garuda, both domestic and short-haul regional flights more than a year ago. For me, PAL is much better. But, seeing the new livery and reading about the new A330s, i hope inflight service has improved. Garuda has a code-sharing agreement with PR, which flies daily to CGK. Also 5J flies 3x a week to Jakarta.

kiretoce
August 2nd, 2009, 09:25 PM
Speaking of Garuda Indonesia mentioning here... I love their new livery.. so beautiful!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/GA-newlogo.jpg
I hope they fly here again...

I think they over simplified the stylized Garuda bird logo into sharp-edged streaks. The former still stands out as a classic, in my opinion.

I thought Spirit of Manila have started already with flight to Macau and Taiwan?

Pending government approval, their inaugural flights to TPE is on October 2 and to MFM on October 15.

hikouki
August 3rd, 2009, 02:22 AM
I think they over simplified the stylized Garuda bird logo into sharp-edged streaks. The former still stands out as a classic, in my opinion.
...

I agree. The new one looks unfinished. They should feature more of the Garuda than just its 'feathers.'

ngprofflorida
August 3rd, 2009, 06:08 AM
Zest Air eyes DMIA as hub for int’l flights

airline Zest Airways Inc. (Zest Air) intends to make the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark its hub for its international flights starting September this year.

Victor Jose I. Luciano, president and CEO of the Clark International Airport Corp. said that Zest Air will start its commercial flights in DMIA in September this year.

At present, Zest Air’s domestic flights are based at the old domestic airport in Manila except for one flight in Clark for Caticlan.

The airline also plans to mount flights to Hong Kong, Incheon in South Korea, Macau, Xiamen and Shanghai in China and Bangkok in Thailand.

Zest Air’s application for rights to fly the Middle East, particularly Kuwait and UAE is pending approval by foreign governments while its request to fly to Australia is currently applied following new bilateral agreement between Australia and the Philippines.

Zest Air would be able to mount international flights with the starting delivery of two brand new Airbus 320 in October this year.

This is in addition to the first A-320 it purchased earlier. The company is also buying 2 Boeing 767-300 aircraft to bring its total fleet to 11 aircraft by yearend, flying to major tourist destinations in the country.

This is part of the $150 million second wave of capital expansion. Last year, the company invested $170 million.

At present, Zest Air flies to Caticlan, Busuanga, Calbayog, Catarman, Marinduque, San Jose and Virac from Manila. It started flying new routes to Iloilo, Legaspi, Naga, Puerto Princesa, Davao, Kalibo, Tacloban and Tagbilaran.

The Zest-O group of companies, owned by businessman Alfredo Yao, acquired Asian Spirit, a small airline company based in the Philippines last year, and is carrying out an aggressive expansion program amid worldwide economic downturn. (BCM

shytype
August 3rd, 2009, 03:41 PM
2 investor groups interested in DMIA-NAIA railway


Two groups from the Asia and Europe have expressed keen interest in the planned 120-kilometer speed railway that will connect the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark, which is being groomed to be the country's premier international airport, to the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila.

Jose Victor Luciano, president and CEO of the Clark International Airport Corp., could only reveal the nationalities of the interested groups but not their full identity stressing it is still too premature at this stage.

Luciano said the Department of Transportation and Communication is the lead government agency in charge of the project.

''Conceptualization of the project is still being finalized and the government has yet to do the initial bidding for the conduct of a feasibility study before the project could be put on the block,'' he said.

At this early, however, two groups have already expressed interest to bid for the project. Earlier, Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) has expressed interest in bidding for a 120-kilometer high-speed rail project.

''Right now, we can see that NAIA will become congested. Twenty-five million international and domestic passengers arrive in NAIA [annually].

That will keep on growing,'' Luciano said.

Narnian_King
August 3rd, 2009, 04:12 PM
2 investor groups interested in DMIA-NAIA railway


Two groups from the Asia and Europe have expressed keen interest in the planned 120-kilometer speed railway that will connect the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark, which is being groomed to be the country's premier international airport, to the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila.


http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/213952/2-investor-groups-interested-dmianaia-railway
Slowly but surely. :cheers:

patlite_boy
August 4th, 2009, 03:24 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/SpiritOfManila737.jpg

^^Edited ang picture na to^^

Wala pang 737 ang spirit of manila. Yung MD na dumating ay first airplane nila at N registry pa. Andito na sa Clark yung MD dumating last Saturday.

Mojacko
August 4th, 2009, 03:41 AM
I have photos saved from Jetphotos.net of the Mabuhay Class forward main deck of Philippine Airlines' sole 747-469 - registry RP-C7475 (formerly N754PR). One shot was taken BEFORE the refurbishment, and the other AFTER.

How does one post photos from Jetphotos.net here on SSC? (I tried using the image hyperlink - via that site's "link to thumbnail" feature - but it was pointless, resulting in broken image links instead.) Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

pthfndr19
August 4th, 2009, 12:09 PM
^^Edited ang picture na to^^

Wala pang 737 ang spirit of manila. Yung MD na dumating ay first airplane nila at N registry pa. Andito na sa Clark yung MD dumating last Saturday.

^^ Hindi yan edited noh? At pakibasa din sa website nila...

-------------------

MD-83's to join the fleet

May 13, 2009

Spirit of Manila Airlines signed up a lease agreement for two MD-83 planes to be used for its regional flights. The planes will be delivered on July and October 2009. These planes will join the first Boeing 737-300 to expand Spirit of Manila Airlines network.

http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/news10.asp

patlite_boy
August 4th, 2009, 01:26 PM
^^ Hindi yan edited noh? At pakibasa din sa website nila...

-------------------

MD-83's to join the fleet

May 13, 2009

Spirit of Manila Airlines signed up a lease agreement for two MD-83 planes to be used for its regional flights. The planes will be delivered on July and October 2009. These planes will join the first Boeing 737-300 to expand Spirit of Manila Airlines network.

http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/news10.asp


^^ katabi namin ang spirit of manila dito sa clark. pati sa website mali ang naka post. ^^ Na photo shop yang 737 na yan. Nakuha mo for sure sa internet ang picture na yan. Kung kaw mismo kumuha hindi nga edited.

their website info is misleading. Isang eroplano nga lang naka park ngayon mula nang mag start ang SOMA.

pthfndr19
August 4th, 2009, 01:50 PM
^^ Hmmm.. nasaan kaya yang 737 ngayon... baka nasa ibang lugar. :lol::lol:

Sou-jiro
August 4th, 2009, 03:02 PM
it seems di pa kasi fully functional and website ng spirit of Manila so its hard to say..anyway ok yang livery nila

dashalvin
August 4th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Zest Air eyes DMIA as hub for int’l flights

At present, Zest Air’s domestic flights are based at the old domestic airport in Manila except for one flight in Clark for Caticlan.

The airline also plans to mount flights to Hong Kong, Incheon in South Korea, Macau, Xiamen and Shanghai in China and Bangkok in Thailand.

Zest Air’s application for rights to fly the Middle East, particularly Kuwait and UAE is pending approval by foreign governments while its request to fly to Australia is currently applied following new bilateral agreement between Australia and the Philippines.

Zest Air would be able to mount international flights with the starting delivery of two brand new Airbus 320 in October this year.

This is in addition to the first A-320 it purchased earlier. The company is also buying 2 Boeing 767-300 aircraft to bring its total fleet to 11 aircraft by yearend, flying to major tourist destinations in the country.


Ang ganda naman ng plan ng Zest Air. Anyway here's a Boeing 767-300ER

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Delta_Air_Lines_B767-300ER_N394DL.jpg/800px-Delta_Air_Lines_B767-300ER_N394DL.jpg

"ZukiChirO"
August 4th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Local airline carrier secures flight to Middle East; starts first flight in September
By Marie S. Neri

MANILA, Aug. 3 (PNA) — Local carrier Spirit of Manila has secured the permit to fly the Middle East routes starting next month.

Basilio P. Reyes, chairman of Spirit of Manila Airlines, in an interview said the Civil Aeronautic Boards (CAB) has granted them the unused entitlements of the Philippines to Middle East via the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark, Pampanga.

Reyes said their first flight will be in September and this will cover the Clark-Dubai and Bahrain routes and vice versa.

”We will be flying the Middle East routes in particular Dubai and Bahrain,” he said.

Last Saturday, August 1, 2009, the 147-seat MD83 aircraft was delivered to Spirit of Manila Airlines in Clark Field, Pampanga.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/Spirit_of_Manila_Airlines_MD-83.JPG/800px-Spirit_of_Manila_Airlines_MD-83.JPG

Reyes said they are also expecting the arrival of three more airplanes by October and December for their Macau, Hongkong and Taipei entitlements.

Initially, there will be three weekly flights for their Middle East routes, but Reyes said they expect to increase their frequencies next year with the arrival of their Widebody 747-400 aircraft.

Recruitment companies had been urging the government to provide direct flights to the Middle East for the OFWs leaving the country due to shortage of seats and higher airfare being charged by foreign airline carriers servicing the Middle East routes.

Meanwhile, Reyes said aside from helping the OFWs, the company is likewise helping boost further the country’s economy.

Currently, Spirit of Manila has 135 employees, mostly coming from the province of Pampanga but they expect it to increase in the next two to three years by more than 700 workers with the arrival of their airplanes.

”For each aircraft, we will be hiring 60 employees and as the aircrafts arrive, we expect to add more workers,” Reyes further said.

”We wanted to help bring more jobs to Pampanga and to participate in the enlargement of the [country’s] economy,” he added.(PNA)

Sou-jiro
August 5th, 2009, 02:43 AM
wow!...bago pa lang sila 747-400 agad!...goodluck to them..there's certainly a market for them...i wonder if PAL will have any reaction at all..though i dont think it will bother them a bit.

Sky Harbor
August 5th, 2009, 05:04 AM
I have photos saved from Jetphotos.net of the Mabuhay Class forward main deck of Philippine Airlines' sole 747-469 - registry RP-C7475 (formerly N754PR). One shot was taken BEFORE the refurbishment, and the other AFTER.

How does one post photos from Jetphotos.net here on SSC? (I tried using the image hyperlink - via that site's "link to thumbnail" feature - but it was pointless, resulting in broken image links instead.) Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

Don't use "link to thumbnail" (for some reason, it does not work). Get the images' URLs and use SSC's insert image function. This basically results in the following:

OLD:

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/5/1/5/96000_1089146515.jpg

NEW:

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/7/7/2/32027_1247851277.jpg

Mojacko
August 5th, 2009, 07:21 AM
Don't use "link to thumbnail" (for some reason, it does not work). Get the images' URLs and use SSC's insert image function.

Thanks, Sky Harbor! :) Hope if it's OK to re-post, with MY captions:

The Mabuhay Class Forward Main Deck (formerly First Class) section, of Philippine Airlines' sole 747-469

BEFORE refurbishment (as N754PR):
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/5/1/5/96000_1089146515.jpg
For a time, Philippine Airlines was distinctly way behind in its amenities, compared with its neighbor airlines. Note the old-school box-shaped seats and CRT (I think, and not even the flat-screen type!) movie screen - standard in the '90s (when it was originally delivered) but remained despite being antiquated by 2004 (when this shot was taken)!

AFTER refurbishment (as RP-C7475):
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/7/7/2/32027_1247851277.jpg
Around 2006-07 (I think), N754PR was given its current Philippine registry, and in mid-2008, became the second 747 to receive the latest refurbishments, which included new seats, improved in-flight entertainment, among other improvements. (The first to be so refurbished was RP-C7471, formerly N751PR - appropriately PAL's first 747-400.)

Note also the Arabic-language signages in both photos. Built in 1995 and carrying Boeing manufacturer Serial 27663, this aircraft was originally intended to be delivered to Kuwait Airways but NTU (not taken up); offered again to the Kuwait Government, again NTU - then finally offered to Philippine Airlines in 1996. (Based upon info conveyed to me by a friend of mine, a flight attendant with the airline.)

Mojacko
August 5th, 2009, 08:03 AM
As I was writing my above post, I was watching on local TV (frequently shifting between GMA QTV and ABS-CBN) the coverage of former President Cory Aquino's funeral, and it suddenly brought up in me a couple of trivia bits pertaining to Philippine Airlines' association with the Aquinos - and the Philippine Government.

In 1980, it was Philippine Airlines that ferried Ninoy and his family out of Manila to the United States for Ninoy's heart operation and the family's eventual three-year exile.

It was under Cory's administration that Philippine Airlines returned to private management (it was under Government management prior to that - from 1954 to 1965, and again after the declaration of Martial Law) - and gained its present-day logo and livery (replacing the Marcos-era red-white-blue livery)! But despite being a private company, as tradition (which continues today), the airline remains the official airline of the President for his/her foreign state trips.

b_star
August 5th, 2009, 08:37 AM
^^Edited ang picture na to^^

Wala pang 737 ang spirit of manila. Yung MD na dumating ay first airplane nila at N registry pa. Andito na sa Clark yung MD dumating last Saturday.

I'm not sure if is still there but Spirit of Manila's sole 737-300 reg. RP-C7701 is in a hangar at Juanda International Airport in Indonesia. I don't think it has touched Philippine soil yet.

quannar
August 5th, 2009, 12:36 PM
^^^^

http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/Asc_hangar2.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane3.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane1.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane2.jpg

courtesy of www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com

habagatcentral1
August 5th, 2009, 07:34 PM
As I was writing my above post, I was watching on local TV (frequently shifting between GMA QTV and ABS-CBN) the coverage of former President Cory Aquino's funeral, and it suddenly brought up in me a couple of trivia bits pertaining to Philippine Airlines' association with the Aquinos - and the Philippine Government.

In 1980, it was Philippine Airlines that ferried Ninoy and his family out of Manila to the United States for Ninoy's heart operation and the family's eventual three-year exile.

It was under Cory's administration that Philippine Airlines returned to private management (it was under Government management prior to that - from 1954 to 1965, and again after the declaration of Martial Law) - and gained its present-day logo and livery (replacing the Marcos-era red-white-blue livery)! But despite being a private company, as tradition (which continues today), the airline remains the official airline of the President for his/her foreign state trips.

Which reminds me to post this photo
PAL A320 and Cory Aquino's Funeral Procession
http://images.plurk.com/3652391_dc73a905dd415c8638159e4c0f977fc1.jpg

nick_marayag
August 5th, 2009, 10:29 PM
Which reminds me to post this photo
PAL A320 and Cory Aquino's Funeral Procession
http://images.plurk.com/3652391_dc73a905dd415c8638159e4c0f977fc1.jpg

Ang ganda ng shot...Talagang napapanahon...Makabayan ang dating...We love you Tita Cory from all OFWs here in Caribbean.

patlite_boy
August 6th, 2009, 03:17 AM
^^^^

http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/Asc_hangar2.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane3.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane1.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane2.jpg

courtesy of www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com

^^Yup. The 737 has not landed in Clark until now. The hangar on the top is being used by American Embassy for their Learjet right now and not SOMA.

SOMA have only 1 aircraft parked in Clark right now with 1 security guarding the airplane 24 hours a day :lol:

Narnian_King
August 6th, 2009, 05:31 AM
awesome pictures of Spirit of Manila :banana:

hikouki
August 6th, 2009, 06:04 AM
As I was writing my above post, I was watching on local TV (frequently shifting between GMA QTV and ABS-CBN) the coverage of former President Cory Aquino's funeral, and it suddenly brought up in me a couple of trivia bits pertaining to Philippine Airlines' association with the Aquinos - and the Philippine Government.

In 1980, it was Philippine Airlines that ferried Ninoy and his family out of Manila to the United States for Ninoy's heart operation and the family's eventual three-year exile.

It was under Cory's administration that Philippine Airlines returned to private management (it was under Government management prior to that - from 1954 to 1965, and again after the declaration of Martial Law) - and gained its present-day logo and livery (replacing the Marcos-era red-white-blue livery)! But despite being a private company, as tradition (which continues today), the airline remains the official airline of the President for his/her foreign state trips.

Let me add a bit more of trivia about PAL and the 1986 connection...

Today's "sunburst" color scheme was introduced during the time of Mrs. Aquino in order to celebrate the birth of a 'new' nation. The sunburst was added to complete the stylized flag on the tail. The fuselage was kept white to emphasize this flag, and it also proudly featured the name of the country, Philippines - signifying its flag-carrier status.

From an old mabuhay mag, "...for a long time the airline had a better reputation internationally than the country itself. Today, however, we can simply say 'Philippines' on our planes with no apologies necessary..."

Many people complain about the current scheme being too white, but it actually serves a purpose to proudly feature the flag and the name of the country around the world.:)

mwg12a
August 6th, 2009, 10:12 AM
Thanks, Sky Harbor! :) Hope if it's OK to re-post, with MY captions:

The Mabuhay Class Forward Main Deck (formerly First Class) section, of Philippine Airlines' sole 747-469

BEFORE refurbishment (as N754PR):
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/5/1/5/96000_1089146515.jpg
For a time, Philippine Airlines was distinctly way behind in its amenities, compared with its neighbor airlines. Note the old-school box-shaped seats and CRT (I think, and not even the flat-screen type!) movie screen - standard in the '90s (when it was originally delivered) but remained despite being antiquated by 2004 (when this shot was taken)!

AFTER refurbishment (as RP-C7475):
http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/7/7/2/32027_1247851277.jpg
Around 2006-07 (I think), N754PR was given its current Philippine registry, and in mid-2008, became the second 747 to receive the latest refurbishments, which included new seats, improved in-flight entertainment, among other improvements. (The first to be so refurbished was RP-C7471, formerly N751PR - appropriately PAL's first 747-400.)

Note also the Arabic-language signages in both photos. Built in 1995 and carrying Boeing manufacturer Serial 27663, this aircraft was originally intended to be delivered to Kuwait Airways but NTU (not taken up); offered again to the Kuwait Government, again NTU - then finally offered to Philippine Airlines in 1996. (Based upon info conveyed to me by a friend of mine, a flight attendant with the airline.)

I dont know, I kind of like the first picture above. Had they have the seat on Pic #2 done with the same upholstery above or something similar to it, it would probably look even nicer and more inviting. But,I guess if they used the same upholstery design, it would make it look like as if the aircraft was not retrofitted with their new seats now. 2nd pic looks simple and cleaner, it looks like the cabin appeared more spaceous though.

Thanks for sharing.

I've got a question to any of you though. Those PAL flights in and out of Vegas? Are they using the 747 fleets or is it the A340/330 ones? I'm planning on booking a flight with PAL just to try their international service since there are alot of direct flight to vegas from the city I am living in.

michael_ray
August 6th, 2009, 10:57 AM
Which reminds me to post this photo
PAL A320 and Cory Aquino's Funeral Procession
http://images.plurk.com/3652391_dc73a905dd415c8638159e4c0f977fc1.jpg

It's like PAL's final salute to our country's icon of democracy.

bitoy
August 6th, 2009, 11:04 AM
I think PAL uses A340-300 to Vegas, my classmate went there from Vancouver, BC , PAL daw sinakyan nila.

BULLDOG
August 6th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Local airline carrier secures flight to Middle East; starts first flight in September
By Marie S. Neri

MANILA, Aug. 3 (PNA) — Local carrier Spirit of Manila has secured the permit to fly the Middle East routes starting next month.

Basilio P. Reyes, chairman of Spirit of Manila Airlines, in an interview said the Civil Aeronautic Boards (CAB) has granted them the unused entitlements of the Philippines to Middle East via the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark, Pampanga.

Reyes said their first flight will be in September and this will cover the Clark-Dubai and Bahrain routes and vice versa.

”We will be flying the Middle East routes in particular Dubai and Bahrain,” he said.

Last Saturday, August 1, 2009, the 147-seat MD83 aircraft was delivered to Spirit of Manila Airlines in Clark Field, Pampanga.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/Spirit_of_Manila_Airlines_MD-83.JPG/800px-Spirit_of_Manila_Airlines_MD-83.JPG

Reyes said they are also expecting the arrival of three more airplanes by October and December for their Macau, Hongkong and Taipei entitlements.

Initially, there will be three weekly flights for their Middle East routes, but Reyes said they expect to increase their frequencies next year with the arrival of their Widebody 747-400 aircraft.

Recruitment companies had been urging the government to provide direct flights to the Middle East for the OFWs leaving the country due to shortage of seats and higher airfare being charged by foreign airline carriers servicing the Middle East routes.

Meanwhile, Reyes said aside from helping the OFWs, the company is likewise helping boost further the country’s economy.

Currently, Spirit of Manila has 135 employees, mostly coming from the province of Pampanga but they expect it to increase in the next two to three years by more than 700 workers with the arrival of their airplanes.

”For each aircraft, we will be hiring 60 employees and as the aircrafts arrive, we expect to add more workers,” Reyes further said.

”We wanted to help bring more jobs to Pampanga and to participate in the enlargement of the [country’s] economy,” he added.(PNA)


sana lang totoo na 'to....baka press release lang :nuts::nuts::nuts:

Mojacko
August 6th, 2009, 01:44 PM
I've got a question to any of you though. Those PAL flights in and out of Vegas? Are they using the 747 fleets or is it the A340/330 ones? I'm planning on booking a flight with PAL just to try their international service since there are alot of direct flight to vegas from the city I am living in.

PR 106/107 - MNL-YVR-LAS-YVR-MNL operates everyday except Mondays and Wednesdays (departing LAS the same day, arriving in MNL two days after its original departure). This flight is flown by an A340-300.

BULLDOG
August 6th, 2009, 01:45 PM
^^^^

http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/Asc_hangar2.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane3.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane1.jpg
http://www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com/maintenance/news/plane2.jpg

courtesy of www.spiritofmanilaairlines.com



ang gulo ng flight info nila.........sa flight details may dubai..pero sa booking walang dubai :lol::lol::lol: ang gulo nila :bash::bash:

Sou-jiro
August 6th, 2009, 02:44 PM
^^^^

haayy...finally nice to see a clear photo of the new mabuhay class..well done!! ....its look much better...

nice shot habagat central....very emotional shot..perfect timing.

also nice too see those exclusive shot of SOMA 737-300 ...heheh i hope that plane is not leased from any Indonesian carriers...eg ADAMAIR?...(sorry no offence to Indonesian) but they're carriers doesn't exactly have he best of reputation...specially when it comes to maintenance...except Garuda...
but even Garuda's reputation is not exactly up there compare its asian counterparts SQ, CX PAL, MH, JAL etc.

Sou-jiro
August 6th, 2009, 03:20 PM
All picture taken in Sydney

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/3795166848_917b3027ab_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/3795166474_e6f7bdea01_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3795166208_49f67d8667_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3795164298_8c30e2b720_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/3794345317_0c64ea2075_b.jpg


here she is the overweight singapore girl
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2563/3794341527_4b0ed659a2_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/3795160132_c97bcfda77_b.jpg

PR210 heading back to Manila
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2635/3795159452_36151255d8_b.jpg

Sky Harbor
August 6th, 2009, 03:29 PM
^^^^

also nice too see those exclusive shot of SOMA 737-300 ...heheh i hope that plane is not leased from any Indonesian carriers...eg ADAMAIR?...(sorry no offence to Indonesian) but they're carriers doesn't exactly have he best of reputation...specially when it comes to maintenance...except Garuda...
but even Garuda's reputation is not exactly up there compare its asian counterparts SQ, CX PAL, MH, JAL etc.

The SOMA 737 is not leased from an Indonesian carrier. Why that particular aircraft is in Surabaya though is a question all on its own.

Sky Harbor
August 6th, 2009, 03:32 PM
PR210 heading back to Manila
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2635/3795159452_36151255d8_b.jpg

When was this taken? This particular A330 should reflect the fact that it is already registered in the Philippine registry as RP-C3335.