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Blueleo

October 6th, 2009, 07:16 PM

SC affirms ruling on PAL dismissal of cabin crew

10/06/2009 9:00 PM

MANILA - The Supreme Court has affirmed with finality its July 22,2008 ruling that the dismissal of some 1,400 cabin crew personnel of local carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) was illegal.

In a 31-page resolution penned by Associate Justice Consuelo Ynares-Santiago, the Court’s Special Third Division denied for lack of merit the motion for reconsideration filed by PAL seeking the reversal of the ruling.

The High Tribunal held that the Lucio Tan-led airline’s reduction of personnel was illegal as it failed to comply with certain standards established under the law.

The Court dismissed PAL's claim that the pilots’ strike on June 5, 1998 caused the company to bleed financially, thus justifying the retrenchment of the flight attendants belonging to the Flight Attendants and Stewards Association of the Philippines (FASAP).

“We find this argument untenable. The strike was a temporary occurrence that did not necessitate the immediate and sweeping retrenchment of 1,400 cabin or flight attendants,” the High Tribunal noted.

The Tribunal's 2008 decision has made PAL a landmark case that provided lessons to shaky companies that are considering retrenchment of its employees. It has also become a guide to labor unions and employees to detect forms of illegal dismissal. (Read: Retrenching workers? Don’t repeat PAL’s mistake)

Recently, PAL has offered early retirement packages to its employees until end-October as it plans to reduce its 8,000-strong workforce by at much as 10% this year.

At present, the company said manpower accounts for 18% of the company's total expenses.

Backwages, reinstatement

While affirming the core of its 2008 decision, the High Tribunal has reconsidered its previous order that PAL immediately reinstate the retrenched cabin crew, and pay their backwages and separation pay.

It said these are no longer feasible since a substantial fraction of the 1,400 flight attendants have already been recalled, reinstated, or relieved from the service while others have already reached the mandatory retirement age or even died. A good number of the retrenched employees have also received separation pay and signed quitclaim.

Previously, PAL's monetary award to the affected flight attendants would reach a whopping P2.3 billion.

Based on review of the case' records, the Supreme Court said that it will instead remanded the case to the labor arbiter “solely for the purpose of computing the exact amount of the award” to be given to the dismissed employees.

“After finality of this case, the records will have to be remanded to the labor arbiter who decided the case at the first instance. There the actual amount of PAL’s liability to each and every flight attendant will be computed. Both parties will have a chance to submit further proof and argument in support of their respective proposed computations,” the Court said.

The SC also reduced to P2 million the award of attorney’s fees and expenses of litigation. In its previous decision, the Court directed PAL to pay attorney’s fees equivalent to 10% of the total monetary award.

Pilots' strike

During the oral arguments on the case, the SC said PAL admitted that the principal and true reason it had to lay-off cabin personnel was not the downsizing of aircraft fleet size but the June 5, 1998 pilot’s strike, where around 600 of its pilots abandoned their planes and refused to fly.

As a result of this pilots’ strike, PAL said it suffered revenue losses equivalent to P100 million daily and P50 million of lost fixed costs.

The Court, however, held that there was no necessity for PAL to permanently implement its retrenchment scheme considering that the strike was only temporary.

It added that PAL could have implemented other cost cutting measures as temporary measure to defer the adverse effects of the pilots’ strike.

11 years after

After the 1998 retrenchement of the flight attendants, PAL is again reducing headcount to cut costs.

PAL is offering early retirement packages to its employees until end-October as it plans to reduce its 8,000-strong workforce by at much as 10% this year.

At present, the company said manpower accounts for 18% of the company's total expenses.

"We are currently reviewing our entire organizational set-up. We want to make PAL lean and mean so it will be agile and flexible enough to adapt to the new economic climate," PAL Holdings President Jaime Bautista previously told reporters during its recent annual stockholders meeting.

"We now have lower capacity, so we need to reduce manpower," Bautista explained.

Aside from reducing its workforce, Bautista confirmed that PAL will outsource its non-core services to prevent the company from incurring further losses.

In a notice sent to the PAL union early this month, he said services to be initially outsourced on November include catering, passenger handling, ramp handling, and cargo-handling operations.

Due to the brunt of the economic crisis on the global airline industry, PAL Holdings Inc. reported a total comprehensive loss of P12.26 billion for fiscal year ending March 31, 2009.

These losses are the holding firm's second in a row after losing P528.54 million in the previous year.

PAL has also reported a 12% drop in total revenues from April to June, its first quarter for fiscal year 2009.

Early this month, the International Air Transport Association (IATA) said the global airline industry is likely to lose $11 billion this year due to the economic crisis, higher than its previous forecast of a $9-billion loss. IATA said this would be driven mainly by lower passenger and cargo traffic this year, which the group expects to drop by 4% and 14%, respectively.

sloanesquare

October 7th, 2009, 04:38 AM

Air India says mid-air scuffle no threat to safety--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MUMBAI - A mid-air scuffle between pilots and crew of an Air India flight at the weekend did not endanger the 106 passengers on board, said a spokesman for the airline which has ordered an inquiry.

Two pilots and two crew members have been grounded following the incident on a Sharjah-Lucknow-Delhi flight, said Jitender Bhargava, which began as a heated exchange on a charge of sexual harassment against the pilots by a crew member.

Blows were also exchanged in the scuffle that spilled into the cabin late on Saturday night, according to media reports.

"At no stage was safety compromised. It was a clear case of indiscipline," Bhargava said.

"Our report is still awaited. We will decide on the course of action when it is ready," he said, adding that Delhi police were also investigating.

The ailing state-run carrier last week canceled dozens of flights when about 250 pilots went on strike to protest against plans to cut pay incentives as part of a broader cost-cutting exercise.

OceanBreezeInn

October 7th, 2009, 05:24 AM

Amadeus forms global distribution partnership with Zest Air in the Philippines

Amadeus, a leading global technology partner to the travel and tourism industry, today announced a deal with Zest Air, a leading domestic carrier in the Philippines, to distribute its flights on Amadeus' world-leading Global Distribution System (GDS).

Travellers will now be able to pre-book flights to destinations across the Philippines from more than 100,000 travel agencies worldwide. This will save them the inconvenience of having to book domestic flight tickets after arrival in the country. The broadened distribution will also help support Zest Air as the carrier prepares to move beyond the Philippines to cover key destinations in Asia.

Paul Martin, Director of South East Asia and the India Subcontinent in Amadeus Asia Pacific's Airline Business Group, said, "This is a landmark deal for Zest Air as it enters a period of exciting growth. By distributing its flights on Amadeus' GDS, Zest Air will significantly widen its customer base to reach a critical mass that is vital to its regional expansion."

"The Philippines is growing in popularity as a global tourism destination, and Amadeus is correspondingly increasing its support to travel providers in the country. We are thrilled to have been chosen by one of the Philippines' leading domestic carriers to drive bookings on its routes in the country, and following that, in Asia," he added.

Zest Air plans to widen its route network to include cities in China, Hong Kong, Japan, Macau, Malaysia and South Korea.

Ambassador Alfredo Yao, Zest Air's President and CEO, said, "Since its inception in 2008, Zest Air has successfully fused creativity and modernity with excellent service, and this has resulted in our airline's strong growth. We have selected Amadeus as our distribution partner because it understands the needs of fast-growing airlines like Zest Air and exhibits the same qualities of innovation and customised service that we value."

"Distribution through Amadeus will not only establish Zest Air as a global player, it will also provide our customers with enhanced convenience and accessibility to our flights. We intend to leverage Amadeus' industry expertise to support our strategic development, and hope to strengthen our relationship in the coming years."

A young brand in the aviation industry, Zest Air operates seven aircraft and flies to 20 destinations around the Philippines.

Source: etravelblackboardasia (http://www.etravelblackboardasia.com/article.asp?id=65140&nav=11)

dashalvin

October 7th, 2009, 09:19 AM

Zest Air to open Singapore route this mid-December
-flight frequency is once a day
-source: airliners.net

Sky Harbor

October 7th, 2009, 09:47 AM

^^ If that information came from A.Net, then it has to be reliable. It's a good thing though that Zest will start CRK-SIN (I hope they use Terminal 1 and not the Budget Terminal), and that they can finally interline now that they are part of the Amadeus GDS.

mao rong

October 7th, 2009, 10:39 AM

DZR Airport, Tacloban City

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jpdm

October 7th, 2009, 11:36 AM

PAL loses P3-b labor case

Manila Standard
Oct. 7, 2009

THE Supreme Court has ordered the labor arbiter to compute the compensation due some 1,400 cabin crew that Philippine Airlines retrenched in 1998 after the flag carrier was placed under corporate rehabilitation.

The high court’s order came after it affirmed its decision in July 2008 declaring as illegal PAL’s dismissal of the cabin crew, and then tossed back the case to the labor arbiter so it could compute exactly how much the carrier owed them.

Initial estimates showed that Philippine Airlines owed the employees P3 billion, Daniel Reyes, the airline union’s lawyer, said earlier.

The Court said that the flight attendants who had reached retirement age or had died should receive back wages up to the date of their retirement.

Those who had not been re-employed by the carrier—including those who had executed quitclaims and received separation pay or financial assistance—should be reinstated without loss of seniority rights and paid full back wages. But the amounts they had already received should be deducted from whatever amounts were adjudged to them individually, the high court said.

It said the flight attendants who had obtained substantially equivalent or even more lucrative employment elsewhere in 1998 or after were deemed to have severed their employment with the carrier.

“They shall be entitled to full back wages from the date of their retrenchment only up to the date they found employment elsewhere,” the Court said.

PAL president Jaime Bautista said he was disappointed with the high court’s decision.

“While we have yet to receive a copy of the said decision, PAL is disappointed that the high tribunal did not appreciate our arguments that the termination of PAL employees, including [Flight Attendants and Stewards Association of the Philippines] members in 1998, was necessitated by the fact that PAL was under rehabilitation, which is equivalent to Chapter 11 bankruptcy,” Bautista said in a statement.

“We will wait for the official copy of the Supreme Court decision to study its implication and determine our legal options,” he said.

Bautista last month told the Philippine Airlines Employees Association that management planned to outsource or spin off some units including catering, passenger handling, ramp handling and cargo handling because of heavy losses.

In response, the association said this planned “second wave of outsourcing” would affect the job security of the 2,000 to 4,000 employees assigned to those departments.

“It seems 10 years of labor sacrifice were not enough,” group president Gerry Rivera said. Rey E. Requejo

Noize_320

October 7th, 2009, 01:19 PM

Air Philippines sets refleeting program

By Lenie Lectura, Business Mirror | 10/06/2009 10:26 PM

MANILA - Air Philippines, the low-cost partner of flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL), will undergo a refleeting program before the end of the year.

“Air Philippines will soon announce its refleeting plan since it is a separate company. It will operate on its own. It will be a whole new Air Phil.,” said PAL president Jaime Bautista.

Air Philippines is 99% owned by the Lucio Tan Group of Companies. PAL, on the other hand, is 95% owned by the group.

Air Philippines, for the moment, has ceased operations. “Yes, it has stopped flying the 737-200 jet aircraft because these consume more jet fuel than other types of aircraft. It needs to be replaced,” Bautista said.

PAL Express, another low-fare unit of PAL, is currently flying the routes assigned to Air Philippines, added Bautista.

Both PAL and Air Philippines, said the PAL executive, are looking to strengthen their operations with modest fleet and route network buildups despite predictions by the International Air Transport Association of a dip in industry earnings due to higher fuel prices.

The two airlines have had close complementation in their flight operations, feeding passengers into each other’s networks and ensuring seamless connections via their joint hubs at Naia Centennial Terminal 2 in Manila and Mactan International Airport in Cebu.

Bautista said the partnership of PAL and Air Philippines yielded operational synergies that enabled the alliance to deliver a superior product to passengers.

Air Philippines carried 254, 244 passengers in the first half of the year out of the possible 335,392 seats while PAL transported 3,207,060.

The company used to operate Bombardier Q300 turbo-prop aircraft but these are now being operated by PAL Express, which carried a total of 623,000 passengers from April 2008 to March 2009.

nice to hear...but once 2P comes back, are they going back to CEB-DVO? or PAL na talaga ang mag-operate sa route?

IMO, i'd like 2P to have those regional jets like Bombardier, Embraer or other of similar types...

oninBadz

October 7th, 2009, 01:23 PM

yah,i'd like to see some regional jets too in our skies soon.i hope air philippines would take the first step.

Blueleo

October 7th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Aklan execs hail Caticlan airport plan

First Posted 23:01:00 10/06/2009

MANILA, Philippines – Aklan officials and tourism stakeholders have welcomed the proposed expansion and improvement of the Caticlan airport, the nearest gateway to the world-famous Boracay island resort, to accommodate bigger and more planes.

In a press statement, Representative Florencio Miraflores said the project would solve the problem of accessibility of Boracay to tourists, most of who pass through the airport of Kalibo, the provincial capital, and travel for one-and-a-half hours to get to Caticlan.

Caticlan airport’s obsolete facilities and short runway allow the landing of only small airplanes.

Governor Carlito Marquez said the lack of world-class transport had hindered the full development of the country’s tourism industry.

Special attention

The governor has prioritized tourism as Aklan’s development thrust, the statement said. Boracay, as one of the major tourist destinations in the Philippines, should be given special attention by the national government, it said.

He said the drawing power of Boracay had already been proven for many years and should take precedence in “the use of scant resources for tourism development.”

Fast-track project

The two Aklan leaders said they would seek the help of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in “fast-tracking” the Caticlan airport project. They belied reports that local officials here were against the implementation of the project, the statement said.

The expansion and improvement of the airport will be undertaken with the highest consideration for passenger safety and environmental protection, the statement said.

Blueleo

October 7th, 2009, 02:02 PM

Commercial flights to Guiuan expected

By Vicente Labro
First Posted 23:02:00 10/06/2009

TACLOBAN CITY – The opening of an airport in historic Guiuan town in Eastern Samar, to commercial flights and the completion of other infrastructure projects will attract more tourists and investors on Calicoan Island, officials said.

Guiuan Mayor Annaliza Gonzales-Kwan said commercial flights would start next month after the completion of the P155-million Guiuan Airport Development Project.

In an interview on Sunday, Kwan said that she had talked with Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific Air officials about her request for flights to and from Guiuan.

Cebu Pacific promised to start flights in November, she said, while the PAL manager in Tacloban had “endorsed favorably” the plan to the airline’s head offices in Manila.

The project included a new apron and taxiway, a passenger terminal building, a fire department building and perimeter fence, as well as the installation of a single-phase electrical line and asphalt overlay of the runway, Kwan said.

The mayor also disclosed that the P38-million water system project in Calicoan Island had already been completed. “In the past, many investors in Calicoan had backed out because of lack of potable water,” she said.

Potable water will be supplied to seven of the town’s villages, including four in Calicoan – Pagnamitan, Baras, Ngolos, and Sulangan.

Kwan said two major telecommunication companies had also put up towers in Calicoan, allowing people to use their cellular phones.

Guiuan has a big tourism potential because of its natural wonders and rich heritage, said Presidential Assistant for Eastern Visayas Cynthia Nierras, who was in Guiuan to attend the inauguration of the town’s Tourism Information and Pasalubong Center on Saturday.

Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan, sailing under the flag of Spain, first set foot on Philippine soil in Homonhon Island, which is a part of Guiuan, on March 16, 1521.

Blueleo

October 7th, 2009, 04:24 PM

SONA infrastructure promises hang in the balance
By Carmela Fonbuena, 10/07/2009 8:22 PM

MANILA - President Arroyo may step down in June 2010 without completing the infrastructure projects she promised in her recent—and last—State of the Nation Addresses (SONA).

According to a paper by the House of Representatives think tank Congressional Planning and Budget Department (CPBD), “Out of the 149 SONA infrastructure projects that the President promised to complete by 2010, only 39 are officially completed—the bulk of which are ports (21). A greater number are ongoing (67) or still in pre-civil works (43).”

“Given the status of the SONA infrastructure projects, it may be unlikely that these projects that these projects will be completed before the Arroyo term ends,” reads the newly released CPBD paper Dimensions of the FY 2010 NG Budget.

The reason? Malacanang's own proposed national budget for 2010 slashed allocation for capital outlay—allocation for new buildings and other long term assets, including equipment and infrastructure—by as much as P52.8 billion.

“It is hard to attribute the decline in infrastructure spending for 2010 to the completion of SONA infrastructure projects. A huge cut could mean that some infrastructure projects may be left unfinished or that no new projects were introduced to give way to previous commitments,” the paper adds.

In the proposed P1.541 trillion budget for 2010, the following departments and special purpose funds suffered significant cuts in capital outlay—public works and highways (P30.9 billion), transportation and communication (P11.5 billion), “Economic Stimulus Fund” (P4.3 billion), State University and Colleges (P2.9 billion), Commission on Elections (P1.7 billion), education (P1 billion), and Priority Development Assistance Fund (P1 billion.)

The House plenary has started on Tuesday deliberations on the budget. “We are confident we will approve the proposed national budget by Friday next week (October 16),” House Speaker Prospero Nograles said in a statement on Wednesday.

Spend or save?

The CPBD echoed concerns against the cut on capital outlay expenditure, citing the need to sustain pump priming activities and the country's low infrastructure competitiveness rating. (Read: Solons question P50-B cut in 2010 capex budget)

In 2009, government officials and legislators packaged a P330 billion stimulus plan to cushion the local economy from the impact of the slowdown in the economic activities worldwide. Increased government spending has been one of the reasons the economic managers have cited why the Philippines avoided falling into recession.

House committee appropriations chair Quirino Rep. Junie Cua, who was initially opposed to the cuts on capital outlay allocations, joined Palace economic managers in defending the cuts.

“We'd like to spend more. But if we spend more, we would run the risk of a big fiscal deficit,” Cua said in Tuesday's plenary session in response to criticisms of Paranaque Rep. Roilo Golez that the 2010 budget is a “maintenance budget,” which does not respond to the needs of the times.

“The debt stock that we have is rather high compared to Thailand or Malaysia. In other words, while your observation may be true that this is a maintenance fund, this budget is proposed to ensure that legacy projects would be completed in the proper way and at the same time continue to provide macro-economic fundamentals for the next administration.

Storms worsen situation

The CPBD assessment does not include the impact of recent back-to-back storms, ‘Ondoy’ (international codename: Ketsana) and Pepeng (Parma). The damage wrought by the twin storms could have even worsened the fiscal situation.

Various camps have called for increased allocations for capital outlay—particularly for the departments of agriculture and public works and highways—if only to rehabilitate among others infrastructure and irrigation facilities damaged by the storms.

Congress is mulling to pass a P10 billion supplemental budget to respond to rehabilitation concerns.

“It is more than sufficient because many items in budget are still not used by the departments,” said Nograles. He said the committee on appropriations will meet on Monday, October 12, to discuss the supplemental budget. Congress is awaiting Malacanang's certification of availability of funds.

Cua said Malacang has committed that funds will be made available although the source of the funds remains unclear.

P10-B budget

Concerned that the supplemental budget would further increase the budget deficit, Bayan Muna Rep. Teodoro Casino previously called on the government to rethink the planned P10 billion supplemental budget.

"In principle, we share the concern na talagang kailangan dagdagan ang budget para sa response sa Ondoy. But we are not so sure that a supplemental budget in the amount of P10 billion is the proper way to do it," Casino said.

Casino said the government should first account for the P2 billion calamity fund for 2009. "Kung hindi maganda ang paggamit nito in the past, we want an assurance—kung may supplemental budget—na magagamit ito sa tamang paraan," Casino said.

Casino also asked for the break down of how the P10 billion supplemental fund will be spent and sourced. He wondered if this amount will be sourced from additional taxes or additional loans.

Casino cautioned against incurring more loans since the interest costs and volatility in rates eats on the budget share of government’s various departments.

Instead, he proposed alternatives such as realigning the special purpose funds or the road users’ tax.

Anakpawis Rep. Joel Maglunsod also reiterated calls for a moratorium on foreign debt servicing.

But House Speaker Nograles dismissed Maglunsod's proposal. "Why? We had disasters in Ormoc, where hundreds died and thousands were displaced. We had disasters in Panay due to typhoon Frank. Payatas suffered a landslide. There is war in Mindanao, where families are displaced and many have died. Even the Davao Death Squad killed almost one thousand. We didn't stop foreign debt payments, did we?" - by Carmela Fonbuena,

mao rong

October 7th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Sky Harbor

October 8th, 2009, 12:39 AM

jogavilz

October 8th, 2009, 03:24 AM

I hope Cebu Pacific will paint one of their planes in this livery.
Here's one I submitted to Modified Airliner Photos (http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00012099)

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the_villager

October 8th, 2009, 05:02 AM

Zest Air Sched for Siargao-Manila and Surigao-Manila

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using this plane

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jpdm

October 8th, 2009, 06:06 AM

anonapinoy

October 8th, 2009, 07:17 AM

I just spotted a Jetstar A320 on short final rwy24 of Ninoy Aquino International Airport. For everyone's viewing pleasure.

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mao rong

October 8th, 2009, 07:50 AM

pthfndr19

October 8th, 2009, 08:10 AM

^^ I'm kind of concerned with Guiuan being opened to commercial service. RPVG (or SAA, but SAA is disputed as Guiuan's IATA code) is too far from Borongan and the rest of Eastern Samar to serve the province efficiently (the distance of Guiuan from Borongan is more or less 100 kilometers). If their intention is to fly to Guiuan to take advantage of tourist traffic and not to take advantage of local demand to get to Manila and Cebu efficiently without having to go through Tacloban, then this will end up like SEAIR's short-lived foray into Borongan.

^^That's true. but the reason why SEAIR has pulled-out their Borongan route was the people of Eastern Samar did not patronized them due to very expensive airfare...kaya ang ginagawa ng mga tao via Tacloban sila or mag-bus papuntang Manila at pabalik..sanay naman ang mga tao bumyahe ng malayuan...isipin nalang natin na ang Samar ay mahirap lamang.. iilan lang ang makaka-afford ng mahal na airfare at hindi pa masyado napupuntahan ng mga turista.
Kung magkakaroon ng byahe ang Cebu pacific dyan, ay sana lamang kayang-kaya sa bulsa ang airfare at higit sa lahat i-promote ang route na ito para malaman ng mga mamamayan at mga turista para ma-sustain ito. An airline can also make alternate flights from Manila to Guiuan and Borongan... Like what PAL Express, Cebu Pacific and Zest Air did to Catarman and Calbayog. Now only Zest Air is doing this as PALEx and CEB are already having daily service to those destinations.

mao rong

October 8th, 2009, 08:17 AM

^^That's true. but the reason why SEAIR has pulled-out their Borongan route was the people of Eastern Samar did not patronized them due to very expensive airfare...kaya ang ginagawa ng mga tao via Tacloban sila or mag-bus papuntang Manila at pabalik..sanay naman ang mga tao bumyahe ng malayuan...isipin nalang natin na ang Samar ay mahirap lamang.. iilan lang ang makaka-afford ng mahal na airfare at hindi pa masyado napupuntahan ng mga turista.
Kung magkakaroon ng byahe ang Cebu pacific dyan, ay sana lamang kayang-kaya sa bulsa ang airfare at higit sa lahat i-promote ang route na ito para malaman ng mga mamamayan at mga turista para ma-sustain ito. An airline can also make alternate flights from Manila to Guiuan and Borongan... Like what PAL Express, Cebu Pacific and Zest Air did to Catarman and Calbayog. Now only Zest Air is doing this as PALEx and CEB are already having flight daily service to those destinations.

^^there...coming from a local....:)

six

October 8th, 2009, 08:34 AM

Repost from Legazpi City and Albay Thread (LUZON) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=969888)

Manila-Bicol, v.v. and Cebu-Legazpi, v.v. Flights

Holiday Direct Flights of Cebu Pacific Air (http://www.cebupacificair.com/)
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Winter Direct Flights of Cebu Pacific Air (http://www.cebupacificair.com/)
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Philippine Airlines (http://www.philippineairlines.com/)
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Zest Air (http://www.zestair.com.ph/)
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arianespace

October 8th, 2009, 11:25 AM

^^^^That's true. but the reason why SEAIR has pulled-out their Borongan route was the people of Eastern Samar did not patronized them due to very expensive airfare...kaya ang ginagawa ng mga tao via Tacloban sila or mag-bus papuntang Manila at pabalik..sanay naman ang mga tao bumyahe ng malayuan...isipin nalang natin na ang Samar ay mahirap lamang.. iilan lang ang makaka-afford ng mahal na airfare at hindi pa masyado napupuntahan ng mga turista.

Kung magkakaroon ng byahe ang Cebu pacific dyan, ay sana lamang kayang-kaya sa bulsa ang airfare at higit sa lahat i-promote ang route na ito para malaman ng mga mamamayan at mga turista para ma-sustain ito. An airline can also make alternate flights from Manila to Guiuan and Borongan... Like what PAL Express, Cebu Pacific and Zest Air did to Catarman and Calbayog. Now only Zest Air is doing this as PALEx and CEB are already having daily service to those destinations.

I think the argument proposed there is flawed. SEAIR is not and never was a budget carrier to start. It is a leisure airline, meaning it caters to a particular market niche, particularly foreign tourist. Caticlan service is actually an anomaly according to Avelino Zapanta, Seair President. Because first and foremost, it is their bread and butter destination and second they are offering discounted fare for that route for sheer volume. The reason, name recall. Caticlan will always be associated with Seair which is a good thing marketing wise. And they are not financially troubled despite its small size. In fact, they are the second oldest airline around and the have a good track record valued by its clients, the foreign market. If ain't broke why fixed it?

Now you may want to asked why they can't duplicate the low fare structure for Caticlan? The answer to that is airline economics. In Economics 101, there is a principle called economies of scale which I assumed you all remember. Short way of saying it, the airline can afford to lower its fare structure because of the volume of regular passengers they have. But there are limits to that. Remember the curves?

Consider the principle this way, haven't you noticed why a bottled 8oz coke is more expensive to buy per ml than a liter of it and why buying one 2 liters is more economical than buying 2 one liter? Still doubtful? Try to visit your local store to compare if I am right.

Now, why would an airline abandon its routes. The answer is simple. The route is not making money for them.

I'm sure your next argument would be "hold on, well nobody would ride an airline with expensive fare do you?" Of course you are correct on that assumption. But remember, even if they level the fare to its lowest fare structure, passengers would still not be there sufficient enough to make it work. Does Davao-Singapore vv on 5J ring a bell?

Normally, the trick would work as what Cebu Pacific did but did you know that most of the time they are wrong? Why is it so? Because they are losing money on some route networks including the examples given. They succeed because other domestic routes are very successful which in turn subsidize the other.

What they do is sell in advance seats which can never be filled 6 months in advance at a discount and block a certain percentage for a full fare. The full fare block will actually cover the discounted ones, making it a win-win situation for the airline. The thing is it does not always happen particularly during lean months.

Still confused? Okay, make a mocked booking today for a departure 3 days from now on your destination of choice of whatever airline you like. Lets see if you can have the lowest fare available 3 months before. You can also compare 2 day and 1 day before to understand it better. You simply can't do you? That is airline economics working and that is the same principle employed by Seair.

Its the same reason why Jolo and Tawi-Tawi succeed while Borongan falters.:)

pthfndr19

October 8th, 2009, 12:12 PM

^^ Thanks for your explanation. very well said. :lol:

pthfndr19

October 8th, 2009, 09:46 PM

six

October 9th, 2009, 03:51 AM

Sinong mga taga-Cebu Pacific dito?? Tanong lang kung bakit hindi na tinatanggap ang HSBC Visa Credit Card for online booking and payment??
Ang sabi "your booking has been cancelled ...try to use other credit card.. blah blah blah"
Di ko sure kung bakit.. OK pa naman CC ko at nagagamit ko naman pang-shopping.:ohno:
May promo pa naman sana na P888.. huhuhu :(

If you are in Manila, you can call their number at 702-0888 (Cebu Pacific).
they might ask for a copy of your credit card (front and back) and ID/s and
will advise you to send them through fax or email.
nangyari din yan sakin with my Wachovia Platinum. twice.
i think you need to inform your bank that you'll be using your card in the
philippines &/or internet transactions. some banks like Wachovia, they put
your card "in-freeze" (dont know if this is the correct term) once they have
noticed that you made card transactions while you are in the philippines.
i think this is their way against card-fraud/theft.

six

October 9th, 2009, 04:13 AM

5Js is now accepting debit cards, and over-the-counter (cash) payments for your online booking.

you may pay in cash over-the-counter on all Robinsons Savings Bank (RSB), Metrobank, Banco de Oro (BDO).
or pay using ATM machines (Bancnet & Megalink).

HOW? (http://www.cebupacificair.com/products/paymentcenters.html)

six

October 9th, 2009, 04:15 AM

Fly PAL using ATM cards

Internet-ready ATM cards issued by BancNet member-banks may now be used to pay for PAL tickets purchased through the PAL website.

PAL customers without credit cards may now use BancNet ATM cards with debit function and information security, when buying tickets online. The ATM card features a hack-free system controlled by the card owners' Personal Information Number (PIN).

The latest PAL payment scheme innovation – a first for the Philippine aviation industry – affords PAL customers more choices and added convenience in paying for their tickets, without queuing at PAL ticket offices.

PAL has invited other BancNet members to make their ATM cards internet-ready, to be able to extend their service to more customers buying PAL tickets online.

BancNet member-banks that have internet-ready ATM cards include Allied Bank, Asia United Bank, China Bank, Chinatrust Bank, Citystate Savings Bank, Metrobank, PBCom, Philtrust, Postal Bank, RCBC, RCBC Savings, Robinsons Savings Bank, Security Bank, Standard Chartered Bank and Sterling Bank.

For more information, travelers may log on to www.philippineairlines.com

vogriphach

October 9th, 2009, 04:20 AM

Does anyone have updates on the planned flights by Mahan Air between Tehran and Manila? Is this still going to push thru?

the_villager

October 9th, 2009, 06:13 AM

Air Philippines to acquire six new aircraft for $120M
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
Monday, January 21, 2008 The Philippine Star

Budget domestic carrier Air Philippines plans to acquire six new aircraft totaling at least $120 million during the fourth quarter of 2008 as part of its modernization and expansion program.
It was learned that the company, owned by taipan Lucio Tan who also controls Philippine Airlines (PAL), will be purchasing initially six Q400s, which are 76-seater planes and sister ship to the Q300s currently being used by Air Philippines.

The acquisition will be financed either through operating lease, finance lease, or export credit, officials revealed.
During the January to December 2007 period, Air Philippines carried a total of one million domestic passengers as compared to PAL’s four million passengers from the latter’s domestic operations alone.
Air Philippines has started flying to Caticlan last Dec. 15 and there are plans to increase the number of flights from four to 12 flights a day utilizing three aircrafts.

The company has just acquired six Bombardier Q300 turbo-prop aircraft amounting to $56 million to serve its expanded route network, including its new Caticlan service, gateway to the island of Boracay.
Air Philippines middle of last year signed a firm order with Toronto-based Bombardier Aerospace for three of the 50-seat airliners and taken options on three more units.

The first Q300, delivered in November 2007, started the Manila-Caticlan run of the airline, which is known for its tourist-friendly ultra-low fares.
Deliveries of the other two firm orders will be in the first quarter of 2008, while the option aircraft, should Air Philippines exercise its rights, are due after 2008.

Air Philippines currently operates eight Boeing 737-200 jet aircraft serving a network of 12 points in the Philippines from hubs in Manila and Cebu. It also operates regular charter flights to points in Korea.
It will be phasing out its Boeing 737-200s and have its future fleet comprising Airbus A320s, newer 737 ‘Classics’ and Bombardier Dash 8 Q400s in addition to Q300s.

The carrier currently operates a fleet of eight 737-200s and one Q300 with two more on order.
Company president Edilberto Medina earlier said the carrier’s first 737-300 is due to be delivered on this month on lease from Air Philippines’ sister carrier PAL, which owns the aircraft.

Medina said Air Philippines this year will begin grounding its eight 737-200s and he predicts that in 2010 it will only have two left and these will be grounded by the end of that year.
It is currently seeking to lease newer 737 Classics and prefers the 737-400 because of its additional capacity, says Me

But he also says this is only an interim solution and that starting in 2009 it plans to start adding A320s which will be the mainstay of its future fleet.
PAL has options for five A320s with delivery slots starting in 2009 and Air Philippines hopes to get those aircraft, says Medina, adding that in 2009 PAL would have completed its A320 fleet renewal.

The 737 ‘Classics’ are still needed as interim solution because Air Philippines is no longer willing to wait and incur the high fuel costs that come from operating such old and inefficient aircraft, says Medina, adding that fuel now accounts for 50 percent of the carrier’s total expenses.
It also makes no sense for Air Philippines to spend money on a heavy maintenance check and lap joint airframe check for these aircraft because it would be too costly, he added.

While the A320 seems destined to be the largest aircraft in Air Philippines’ fleet, the airline has become bullish about turboprops since its first Q300 went into scheduled operations last Dec. 15.
“We have had a good response from the Q300 and we never thought it would be a success so quickly,” says Medina.

The carrier is using its Q300 for a four-times-daily service from Manila to Caticlan, the gateway to the Philippines’ famous Boracay beach strip.
Medina said the carrier has until the end of this month to exercise the options it has for three Q300s but he is tight-lipped about the prospects of Air Philippines having a total of six Q300s.

But he revealed that the carrier definitely plans to add Q400s and is now actively seeking leases on six and hopes to have the first arrive in April.
He said the airline chose to seek second-hand Q400s rather than new ones because if it ordered Q400s from Bombardier the first would only be delivered in the last quarter of 2009.

The Q300s will be used exclusively for services from Manila and Cebu to Caticlan but the Q400s will be used on other secondary domestic routes to cities such as Basco, Busuanga, Pagadian and Surigao.

“The Q400s will be focused on secondary route opportunities we can’t support with jet operations,” Medina said, adding that some will be routes PAL used to operate on before it grounded its Fokker 50 turboprops several years ago.

Air Philippines’ push into turboprops means it will be competing against Asian Spirit and Seair which operate older turboprops.

What is B737 Classics? What made AirPhil decide in leasing this model?

info from wiki:

The Boeing 737 Classic is the name given to the -300/-400/-500 series of the Boeing 737 after the introduction of the -600/700/800 series. They are American short to medium range, single aisle, narrow body jet airliners. The Classic series was introduced as the 'new generation' of the 737.[2] Produced from 1984 to 2000, 1,988 aircraft were delivered. As of January 1, 2001, 1,945 remain in service.[1]

ano ba ang runway lenght requirement nyan?

federalist

October 9th, 2009, 10:24 AM

Lahug, Cebu City

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mao rong

October 9th, 2009, 10:29 AM

DMIA: the next premiere gateway
Written by Noel G. Tulabut Special to the BusinessMirror
Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:23

FROM an almost birdless commercial airport in the country, it is now one of the fastest-growing gateways in the Philippines and probably in the whole Southeast Asian region.:banana: Once a desolate aviation complex with ash and other volcanic debris spewed out by an angry volcano about 10 kilometers away, the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) inside the Clark Free Port is the most promising and much-improved airport in the country today. It is also one of the highly patronized airports which caters to budget airlines in the region, fulfilling the vision for it to become the site of the next premier gateway to the Philippines.

DMIA, established in 2003 when it was renamed from Clark International Airport, registered only 44 flights back then. Now there are more than 2,000 passenger and cargo flights that come in and out of DMIA weekly.

“This airport has so much not only promise but actual viability, as we have proven since its utilization as a civilian commercial aviation complex in only a few recent years,” said Victor Jose Luciano, president and chief executive officer of Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC).

CIAC is the implementing arm of the Bases Conversion Development Authority, which oversees airport-development program for DMIA.

Passenger arrivals

With the creation of flights came a surge in the number of domestic and international passengers in Clark.

Luciano said on record is a noticeable steep increase in the number of passengers serviced at DMIA. As a former airline executive, he is widely credited in Pampanga with persuading officials of various local and regional airlines to mount flights in and out of Clark.

From a measly 7,880 passengers in 2003, when the former Clark International Airport was renamed DMIA, the figure rose to 490,748 after five years, or a dramatic 6,227-percent increase.

In DMIA, there are daily flights to and from Seoul by Asiana Airlines, Singapore by Tiger Airways, Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu by Air Asia. On the other hand, Cebu Pacific—a Philippine flag carrier—has six flights per week to Hong Kong, four flights each to Macau and Singapore, and two flights to Bangkok, Thailand.

While there was a noted decrease in visitor arrivals in January and February this year, DMIA still posted a 22-percent increase in the international passenger volume from January to June 2009 compared with the same period of last year.

“DMIA is the only Philippine airport that posted positive growth rate this year in terms of international passenger movement,” Luciano said.

“This was made even in view of the global economic crisis and the A(H1N1) virus,” he added.

On the domestic side, DMIA services airlines that have flights to the South. Cebu Pacific has four Cebu-Clark-Cebu flights per week, while SEAIR and Zest Air cater to Boracay-bound passengers with their 12 flights per week and two flights per week to Caticlan, respectively.

In 2007 DMIA welcomed its 1 millionth passenger from Seoul who flew in via Asiana Airlines, the second flag carrier of South Korea. Asiana has 11 flights per week between Incheon International Airport and DMIA and vice versa. This particular flight services thousands of Filipinos in the US, as it has onward connections to New York on the East Coast, Los Angeles and San Francisco on the West.

Luciano said that at the rate flights and passengers arrive in Clark, DMIA will soon have its 3 millionth passenger as the airport continues to receive international passengers.

Vision

DMIA plays a key role in making Clark and Subic a world-class logistics hub.

No less than President Arroyo has underscored the role of the two former US military bases in spurring the national economy. In her 2005 State-of-the-Nation Address (Sona), Mrs. Arroyo said the Subic-Clark Corridor will be developed as a premier international service and logistics center in Southeast Asia.:banana:

In her subsequent Sonas, the President reiterated this objective in her BEAT-THE-ODDS development program, with the “DS” in the acronym’s latter part representing the development of Subic and Clark on the 10-point agenda of the Arroyo administration.

This endeavor was expected of the President, as DMIA was named after her father and late President Diosdado P. Macapagal. Observers say Mrs. Arroyo has to pursue the total development of the Clark airport, as doing so would not only form part of her legacy but would also bring true honor to her father.

During the time of Fidel V. Ramos as president, the national leadership has plotted the blueprint for DMIA as Executive Order 174 was issued in 1994 that designates Clark as the “future site of the country’s premier international gateway.”

In fulfilling this goal, Luciano said CIAC has reformulated its vision statement for DMIA: “To be the Most Competitive International Service and Logistics Center in the Asia-Pacific region and the premier International Gateway Airport of the Philippines.”

Already, this has brought dividends for DMIA and its operators.

In 2008 DMIA was conferred “Airport of the Year” award by Frost and Sullivan—a leading research company in the world with over 26 global offices which covers the aerospace and defense markets. It has given the same award to Singapore’s Changi Airport in the 15-million passenger capacity.

The award came only a year after receiving “Low-Cost Airport of the Year” award from Centre for Asia-Pacific Aviation.

Plans

CIAC officials have been pushing for a comprehensive airport-development program that would include connectivity with the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Metro Manila, with Subic’s seaport through the recently completed Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway. The plan also included the establishment of a new passenger terminal that will be capable of processing 7 million passengers per year.

This plan, originally intended to be completed before Mrs. Arroyo steps down from office in June 2010, was stalled due to failed biddings. Public biddings for government projects, such as airports, are required under the law.

Luciano said CIAC is currently negotiating with a Kuwaiti company for a possible joint-venture undertaking. The provisions of a possible joint-venture agreement will be published for a “competitive challenge” where other interested proponents would have the right to “match or better the offer and terms” within 45 to 60 days. He said this mode is aimed at generating the best benefits for the government and in keeping the best interest of the general public.

Economic ventures

Operating the DMIA means more than having domestic and international flights for passengers and cargo.

CIAC is also mandated to create business opportunities inside the 2,500-hectare aviation complex. This means generating investment projects that translate to jobs and livelihood sources.

It’s part of the whole gamut in fulfilling the vision to establish a competitive logistics hub.

One of the biggest projects at the aviation complex is the development of the $1.025-billion Global Gateway Logistics City (GGLC), a single investment that is expected to create 70,000 jobs when fully operational.

The 167-hectare GGLC, which broke ground in August last year, is a project of the Kuwait Gulf and Links (KGL) and Peregrine Development International. GGLC will host aviation-related businesses, including but not limited to, warehousing, distribution, multinodal logistics and light industries.

It would have four zones: The Logistics Park, The Business Park, The Campus and The Town Center. The Logistics Park will cater to warehousing, distribution and light-manufacturing operations, while The Business Park will be a modern site for offices and regional headquarters.

The Campus will be a research and development complex that will be a host to IT education and other higher learning and technical competencies. The Town Center will cap the business-cum-pleasure and complete sound environment of GGLC as it will offer commercial retail, shopping malls and other recreational facilities.

Luciano said GGLC is expected to usher in the very first Aerotropolis in the Philippines, :banana: where top businesses in logistics operations can converge and thrive.

Besides GGLC, DMIA is host to scores of renowned aviation firms, including SIA Engineering (SIAE), a subsidiary of Singapore Airlines Engineering Co. SIAE is set to operate its $19-million Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul hangar in partnership with Cebu Pacific.

It will provide heavy and maintenance checks for narrow- and wide-bodied aircraft, such as the Airbus A320, Boeing 747 and B777s. This project will employ about 1,100 highly skilled Filipino specialists.

Other projects in the pipeline include more flights that will be mounted by Spirit of Manila Airlines for flights to Taipei, Taiwan and the Middle East; Zest Air for flights to Hong Kong; and Korean Airlines for flights to Incheon, South Korea.

Looking back

DMIA was the site of the former MAC (Military Airlift Command) Terminal of the US Air Force. During the stay of American troops, it served incoming and outbound civilian and military personnel of the United States, including Vietnamese who were evacuated from their war-torn country in the late 1960s.

It was also the airport that received former American prisoners of war (POWs) from the infamous Vietnam conflict. Among the hundreds of POWs that were taken and processed to Clark en route to their return to the US mainland was former US senator and presidential candidate John McCain, who was held captive for five years in North Vietnam.

Prior to officially becoming Clark Air Base (CAB) by virtue of the 1947 Military Bases Agreement between the Philippines and the United States, this aviation complex was also known as Clark Air Field and a part of the Fort Stotsenburg of the US Cavalry in the early 1900s.

CAB figured prominently in the Edsa People Power I as it served as the stopover for the Marcoses on their way to Hawaii after being plucked out from Malacañang Palace in February 1986.

CAB used to host and service US military aircraft, ranging from C-5 Galaxies (the largest US military cargo plane until the 1990s), reconnaissance aircraft and fighter jets, such as F-4 Phantoms, F-16 Fighting Falcons, F-14 Tomcats and F-15 Eagles.

The aviation complex has two parallel runways which are 2.5 kilometers in length, with provisions for a third runway. The second runway, built by the Americans shortly before they left, was designed to be an alternate landing strip for US space shuttles. With the vastness of runways, taxiways and ramp area, an Airbus A380—the largest passenger aircraft in the world today—made a stopover at DMIA last year in its trial world run.

When the American troops left Clark by virtue of the Philippine Senate’s rejection of a proposed treaty that would have extended their stay in military bases in the country, only aircraft of the Philippine Air Force—most of them Huey helicopters—flew over the skies of Clark.

Except for occasional landings by visiting or transient foreign aircraft, the aviation complex of the former CAB remained practically birdless and silent. This reality existed even up to the time when Philippine authorities assumed management and operation of the former military aviation complex in 1993.

The Philippine government first named it Clark International Airport, only to be renamed as DMIA in 2003 on the initiative of then president of Clark Development Corp. Emmanuel Angeles, concurrent head of CIAC during those days.

Today DMIA has a passenger terminal that was recently rehabilitated that doubled its capacity to 2 million passengers per year.

Currently, CIAC is embarking on an ambitious plan to build and complete DMIA Terminal II in the next 12 months. When completed, this new and bigger building would service 3 million to 7 million passengers annually.

(Mr. Tulabut worked in several newspapers for several years as an Angeles City-based correspondent before joining the Clark Development Corp.)

^^very nice...

carl_vilches21

October 9th, 2009, 10:47 AM

ianers_ianized

October 10th, 2009, 04:46 AM

Commercial flights to Guiuan expected

By Vicente Labro
First Posted 23:02:00 10/06/2009

TACLOBAN CITY – The opening of an airport in historic Guiuan town in Eastern Samar, to commercial flights and the completion of other infrastructure projects will attract more tourists and investors on Calicoan Island, officials said.

Guiuan Mayor Annaliza Gonzales-Kwan said commercial flights would start next month after the completion of the P155-million Guiuan Airport Development Project.

In an interview on Sunday, Kwan said that she had talked with Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific Air officials about her request for flights to and from Guiuan.

Cebu Pacific promised to start flights in November, she said, while the PAL manager in Tacloban had “endorsed favorably” the plan to the airline’s head offices in Manila.

The project included a new apron and taxiway, a passenger terminal building, a fire department building and perimeter fence, as well as the installation of a single-phase electrical line and asphalt overlay of the runway, Kwan said.

Kwan said two major telecommunication companies had also put up towers in Calicoan, allowing people to use their cellular phones.

Guiuan has a big tourism potential because of its natural wonders and rich heritage, said Presidential Assistant for Eastern Visayas Cynthia Nierras, who was in Guiuan to attend the inauguration of the town’s Tourism Information and Pasalubong Center on Saturday.

Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan, sailing under the flag of Spain, first set foot on Philippine soil in Homonhon Island, which is a part of Guiuan, on March 16, 1521.

^^maganda talaga ang guiuan...ma amaze kayo pag nakita nyo...combination of Boracay and Siargao...

Sabi nga nila, yung Calicoan ang pinopromote nilang tourist destination, pgna-develop ngtuluyanb yun sna bahain ng mga turista kc sa pictures plng mukhang mganda na tlga bisitahin ang Calicoan at Eastern Samar. Sna ma-sustain ang traffic at route ng mga airline companies.

mao rong

October 10th, 2009, 06:37 AM

Sabi nga nila, yung Calicoan ang pinopromote nilang tourist destination, pgna-develop ngtuluyanb yun sna bahain ng mga turista kc sa pictures plng mukhang mganda na tlga bisitahin ang Calicoan at Eastern Samar. Sna ma-sustain ang traffic at route ng mga airline companies.

^^agree to that....:)

OceanBreezeInn

October 11th, 2009, 02:04 PM

Ecological warning aired on Caticlan airport project

MANILA, Philippines - A land form specialist of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) has warned that leveling the hill at the Caticlan Airport in Aklan will lead to ecological disaster in the world famous beach of Boracay island. The airport is the gateway to Boracay resort.

Dr. Ric Javellosa of the Mines and Geosciences Bureau under the DENR, made the assessment after learning that the government will remove the hill as part of the expansion and upgrading of the Caticlan Airport into a international airport amounting to P2.5 billlion. Javelosa said doing so will lead to “micro-climatic change” or disappearance of the entire white beaches around Caticlan and Boracay reportedly within 20 years.

Javelosa explained that leveling the hill and doing earthworks for expansion will result in land and water quality deterioration, erosion and sedimentation.“

The existing domestic airport and proposed expansion into international airport rest on environmentally sensitive landforms,” the morphology expert said.

Javelosa said the expansion and upgrading of the existing airport into international will trigger environmental disasters of coral and beach zone, deface the terrain, degrade the healthy forest, and dislocate upland dwellers and the deterioration of wetland and water quality.

He said the Caticlan airport, in present location, is not fit for upgrading due to high potentiality to local tsunami and highly subject to variable ground shaking. According to Javelosa, Boracay island has excellent micro-climatic conditions which are responsible for the formation and replenishment of its world renowned powdery white sand, Javelosa said.

He said that a major contributor to the existence of micro-climate in Boracay is the presence of the hill being targeted for leveling by the developer of the proposed Caticlan International Airport.

Javelosa and his men are conducting an environmental and geological study of both Caticlan and Boracay islands, focusing on local and micro hydro-meteorology.

Source: philstar (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=513011&publicationSubCategoryId=77)

dashalvin

October 11th, 2009, 02:57 PM

Now, this is the right time for the gov't to decide not to pursue the plan of extending the runway up to 2100m. Maybe it's a good choice if they will only extend it to the runway requirement of turboprops of PR and 5J to spare the said hill.

mwg12a

October 11th, 2009, 11:31 PM

I am not sure where the airport in Caticlan is locate but if it's by the ocean, can't they just reclaim a small portion of land to extend the runway? Or? they are not doing it because it would take a much longer time than just to level a portion of that hill? I guess that "earthwork" they were refering to is what I was talking about already, reclaim a small portion of the land. Hell, if I were they, I will find a way to have a helicopter service from the airport like Aklan or IloIlo to fly passengers to Boracay instead and I don't mean one of those little bitty helicopters, ones like Marine one helicopter being used by US presidents. Another would be a fastcraft service.

Blueleo

October 12th, 2009, 07:13 AM

Bohol runway, navigation facility first, airport hub on BOT

Tagbilaran City (9 September 2009) -- Nothing gets in the way with Bohol development, local officials have tersely stressed.

Behind the building belief that the Panglao Bohol International Airport (PBIA) Project is now doomed to crash before it could even take off, local officials and President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo again whipped a wise formula to keep the P7.6 billion project taxiing.

This week, the National Economic Development Authority is set to flick on the green light to rev on the use of the P4.2B it initially okayed for the 2.5 kilometer PBIA airport runway, control tower and lighting and navigation facilities, relayed Governor Erico Aumentado during his weekly radio program.

With the airport facility and its allied infrastructure now nearly doubling from its initial P4.2B feasibility study cost, PGMA nodded to the construction of the 2.5 kilometer runway and the installation of the lighting and navigation facilities, in a meeting with Bohol officials and funding agencies last week.

The president also directed Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) General manager Alfonso Cusi to immediately go for the runway, control tower and navigation facilities construction, which can be funded by the ready P4.2B, the same being well within the budget.

At the weekly Governor's Reports, Aumentado told Boholanos Friday that National Economic Development Authority (NEDA) Director General Augusto Santos has already received the MIAA letter last October 7, upon orders of the president, asking them to immediately green light the project using the P4.2B which NEDA has approved earlier.

He also reported that NEDA, through Sec. Santos is set to flick the switch for the bidding anytime within the week.

Over this, the governor added that the MIAA has already studied the terms of reference on the bidding of the runway, tower, lighting and airport navigational facilities.

With this, the bidding of the project is set to begin this week and the projects engineering works to be awarded as soon before the real groundbreaking this December, the governor assured.

The MIAA initially vowed P3.2 billion while the Department pf Transportation and Communication pushed across the table P1 billion for the P4.2 billion facility set to be constructed in the southwestern part of Panglao town.

As for the remaining structures that could not be funded anymore, Aumentado, during the meeting with the President at the Bahay Pangarap presented his formula.

The last term governor proposed that the terminal building of the facility be put on a build-operate-transfer scheme, where he mentioned interested private contractors willing to put up the funds.

With the win-win formula, Aumentado and President Arroyo has again showed how skillful negotiations can push for projects which can be economically beneficial to the Visayas super-region.

Dreamtofly

October 12th, 2009, 07:35 AM

II don’t understand the logic of the government building to many international airports? I think the government should focus on one premier gateway and develop a good connecting flight to the other destination. What they should focus is to build a comfortable domestic in all areas having a potential as a tourist destination.

There is still a lot of thing that need to be done on NAIA. One example is the radar system. Extending second runway, developing T3 terminal for full operational, built a mono rail to connect all terminals.

There was no problem putting up to many international airports in the country as long that the premier one is running and functioning well.

mwg12a

October 12th, 2009, 07:43 AM

Wa pangbayad sa frapport kaya hindi ma solve solve ang problema :lol: :lol: :lol: Yuong lang naman yon!!

Had the Philippine government do have a money set aside to pay the builder, once they really appeal with the international arbitrary court especially now that all it is left to decide is in Singapore only and won that first court who went in favor of the Philippine government. The Philippine government would have a better leverage to seal a deal with frapport or whoever needs to be compensated if they can lay some figures on the table, I mean the actual greens not just imaginary figures. It seems to me that the Philippines was trying to get away without paying any single cent on the whole project. I don't know maybe because they know they needed more funds to have the remaining 3 percent completed to get T3 fully operational together with all the planned amenities.

mao rong

October 12th, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Guiuan airport project nears completion

TACLOBAN CITY —The Guiuan Airport Development Project, a major airport rehabilitation project in the region, is nearly completed, Guiuan Mayor Annaliz Kwan informed.

Kwan, in a recent interview, said that the project, which is key to the coming of tourists to the island paradise of Calicoan and other tourist sites in her municipality, is almost finished.

“The rehabilitation is 90 percent complete. Major rehabilitation works like the construction of the perimeter fence, asphalt overlay of runway, and the installation of single phase electrical line have already been completed,” she disclosed.

“Only a little work is needed to be done before the project is 100 percent finished. The newly-rehabilitated air facility could be re-opened by November,” added Kwan.

Once the rehabilitation and upgrading work is completed, Kwan stressed that she expects a tourism boom for Guiuan.

“There could be a deluge of visitors and tourists to Calicoan and other tourist spots from near and far. Their coming here could be facilitated by the opening of several air routes to and from the Guiuan Airport,” she said.

Kwan disclosed that the Guiuan LGU is negotiating with several airline companies for the opening of Manila- Guiuan and Cebu Guiuan air routes once the airport is re-opened

“Philippine Air Lines (PAL) and Cebu Pacific officials have told me that their companies are ready to fly and serve air routes to and from the Guiuan Airport once its rehabilitation and upgrade is completed,” she revealed.

The Guiuan Airport Development Project has a cost of P150 million. Around P20 million was allocated in 2006 and 2007 for the construction and concreting of Apron and Taxiway and rehabilitation of the Passenger Terminal Building.

Some P130 million was earmarked for the construction of the perimeter fence, site acquisition and construction of access road, completion of apron and taxiway and asphalt overlay of runway.

The construction of the Apron and Taxiway was completed in September of 2007. Additional concreting of Apron and Taxiway was completed in January of 2008 while the Passenger Terminal Building was completed in August of 2008.

Guiuan Airport , which was originally a United States Navy air base in World War II has a runway length of 2,094 meters. Prior to upgrading efforts, the airport servicing light private planes, chartered cargo and military planes.

The asphalted runway of said airport has a length of 2.7 kilometers. As such, it is considered the longest runway of a domestic airport in Region 8 and will be able to accommodate big commercial airplanes like Boeing 737’s.

The multi-million project is a thrust in line with the present administration’s super region concept of development where Region 8 is part of the Central Philippines Super Region envisioned to be the tourism center of the country.

Calicoan is one of the islands in Guiuan town. It boasts of miles of white sand beaches. The place has been identified as surfer’s paradise with its powerful swells rolling in from the Pacific over the 10,000 meters Philippine deep. The season for the best waves is generally from October to March.

In the middle of the island are six lagoons ringed by forest, the largest being 30 hectares in size. At the cliffside margin of Calicoan’s forests are dozens of caves. On the northern tip of Calicoan are wetlands like the Everglades, teeming with fish, shrimp, and crabs.

Another important tourist site in Guiuan is Tubabao Island where 6,000 Russian refugees temporarily settled from 1949-1951.

Blueleo

October 12th, 2009, 04:03 PM

jogavilz

October 13th, 2009, 02:45 AM

i hope PAL will paint some of their A320s in these colors.
I submitted these photos to Aviation-Design.net

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00012106.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00012104.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00012103.jpg

mwg12a

October 13th, 2009, 03:08 AM

I think PAL use to have that livery, or similar to it. Why? what's wrong with the current one? I actually like what they have now.

jogavilz

October 13th, 2009, 03:54 AM

wala lang, parang other airlines like Lufthansa or American, repainting one or two of their planes with their retro color scheme :)
marami rin namang A320 ang PAL, so repainting 3 of these aircraft might be all right

boom_box

October 13th, 2009, 05:53 AM

I think PAL use to have that livery, or similar to it. Why? what's wrong with the current one? I actually like what they have now.

There's nothing wrong naman sa current livery nila... maganda lang siguro pag meron silang commemorative livery sa isa nilang A320 or other fleet nila.. total PAL naman ang pinaka matandang airline sa Asia...

d_jeb

October 13th, 2009, 11:40 AM

I like PAL's current livery, I don't see any relevant reason to change it.:):):). If ever they will repaint one of their planes I hope that it would be a theme in connection with its corporate social responsibility for the global environment.

lifeline20

October 13th, 2009, 01:03 PM

I love PAL simply because they carry the name of our country... Not even stating they are PAL but "Philippines" ... :) what if the 9-ray flag bill is enacted into a law? Nako dag-dag 1 ray din ang tail ng PAL :)

Noize_320

October 13th, 2009, 01:19 PM

dashalvin

October 13th, 2009, 02:17 PM

I love also the current livery of PAL. Maybe they could add some details but I don't like a horizontal line to be added.

d_jeb

October 13th, 2009, 03:22 PM

^^yup agree... Those horizontal lines makes the plane messy to look:) Those colors look very heavy too.

BULLDOG

October 14th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Ano naba ang update sa Spirit of Manila? till now ba spiritu parin ba sila?

mao rong

October 14th, 2009, 10:51 AM

Ano naba ang update sa Spirit of Manila? till now ba spiritu parin ba sila?

^^:lol::lol::lol:

d_jeb

October 14th, 2009, 02:11 PM

Wala pa silang press release til now... Tahimik ang espiritu ng Manila, si madam Auring lang cguro makakapabigay ng info for the moment:lol::lol::lol::bash::bash:

step22

October 14th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Spirit of Manila Airlines serves the following destinations:

Southeast Asia
Philippines
Clark - Diosdado Macapagal International Airport Main hub

Southwest Asia
Bahrain
Bahrain International Airport [begins October 2, 2009]
Kuwait
Kuwait International Airport [begins December 1, 2009]
People's Republic of China
Macau International Airport [begins November 3, 2009]
Republic of China (Taiwan)
Taipei - Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport [begins November 2, 2009]

ayon sa wikipedia.
anybody can confirm if they are already flying to bahrain?

Sky Harbor

October 14th, 2009, 04:31 PM

^^ They have regulatory approval, if I'm not mistaken. Manila is BAH's most underserved destination, and the airport authority is offering a fairly hefty incentive package for any airline willing to fly there.

patlite_boy

October 15th, 2009, 02:29 AM

Ano naba ang update sa Spirit of Manila? till now ba spiritu parin ba sila?

^^I'm working here in Clark.

So far espiritu pa rin sila. Mayroon na silang eroplano (MD-80) na nag-iisa.
Don't be fooled by its website and press release.

Wala pa silang ibang eroplano kahit yun man lang 737 na nasa ibang websites.:ohno:

BULLDOG

October 15th, 2009, 08:30 AM

^^I'm working here in Clark.

So far espiritu pa rin sila. Mayroon na silang eroplano (MD-80) na nag-iisa.
Don't be fooled by its website and press release.

Wala pa silang ibang eroplano kahit yun man lang 737 na nasa ibang websites.:ohno:

Baka ang ibang eroplano nila invisible like "SPIRIT" nakakatakot sumakay kong sakali dahil baka pang SPIRITU lang ang flight nila :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: oh kaya mga spiritu din ang mga attendants nila at manager nila si Madam Auring...lol

BULLDOG

October 15th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Two years ago pa nag publish na ang SOM ng flight details nila for Taipei and Macau, din nag add na sila ng flights sa website kahit minsan di pa sila lumipad :lol::lol::lol: kakaiba tong airline na to sumobra ang elusyon :nuts::nuts::nuts:

patlite_boy

October 15th, 2009, 08:59 AM

Hopefully magka flight na sila kahit man lang sa Nov.1. :lol:

seven13

October 15th, 2009, 09:04 AM

Baka ang ibang eroplano nila invisible like "SPIRIT" nakakatakot sumakay kong sakali dahil baka pang SPIRITU lang ang flight nila :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: oh kaya mga spiritu din ang mga attendants nila at manager nila si Madam Auring...lol

ang ma-iisyuhan lang ng tickets and boarding pass mga spirits lang din:lol:

step22

October 15th, 2009, 12:24 PM

^^^ siguro maganda nga ang inagural flight ay nov.1 hahaha

d_jeb

October 15th, 2009, 03:30 PM

Mas maganda nga espiritu nalang sila para pag bumagsak eroplano nila walang fatalities... knowing na old aircrafts ang kanilalang gagamitin:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Noize_320

October 15th, 2009, 03:52 PM

^^ bakit kelangan pa ng eroplano ang espiritu? eh di ba makalipad na man sila? :D:D:D OT na kayo ah~

manilamini

October 15th, 2009, 06:48 PM

Looks like PAL just got another recently refurbished B747. Last night, the flight to SFO was delayed since the aircraft was only delivered 3 days ago and there were some kinks that needed fixing. This was the official reason ground crew gave to the passengers

Sky Harbor

October 15th, 2009, 07:37 PM

^^ Yes, RP-C7473 was finally returned to service. Now we're all anxiously waiting for the refurbishing of RP-C8167 (which will not receive Recaro seats).

mwg12a

October 15th, 2009, 07:40 PM

Manilamni should of taken some pics of the new refurbished interior.

Sky Harbor

October 15th, 2009, 08:02 PM

^^ RP-C7473 will look exactly the same as RP-C7471 and RP-C7472. Pictures are unnecessary.

mwg12a

October 16th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Ito naman kill joy- party pooper LMAO:lol: He could of taken pics at a different angle, who knows? It might be better than what we already saw....

Sky Harbor

October 16th, 2009, 01:05 AM

Zest starts Cebu hub operations (and ZAM-SDK) today! :banana:

hikouki

October 16th, 2009, 03:01 AM

Ito naman kill joy- party pooper LMAO:lol: He could of taken pics at a different angle, who knows? It might be better than what we already saw....

For sure it doesn't have vandalized PTV screens and controls.:) I heard some seats on the other refurbished aircraft already have loose hinges.:ohno:

hikouki

October 16th, 2009, 03:04 AM

^^ Yes, RP-C7473 was finally returned to service. Now we're all anxiously waiting for the refurbishing of RP-C8167 (which will not receive Recaro seats).

RE: RP-C8168
Now that the carrier is struggling financially, maybe they will just install seats from the old maintenance inventory.:lol: Who knows, it might even get the same Weber seats rumored to be fitted on the upcoming 77Ws.:nuts:

Sky Harbor

October 16th, 2009, 03:32 AM

^^ Whatever. I already accidentally called Finnair Icelandair, so it's irrelevant now that I make mistakes. :lol:

mwg12a

October 16th, 2009, 06:02 AM

For sure it doesn't have vandalized PTV screens and controls.:) I heard some seats on the other refurbished aircraft already have loose hinges.:ohno:

Talaga? naba-vandalized ang mga PTV ng PAL? hindi pa ako nakakita ng vandalized PTV ng PAL duon sa lumang interior. Nakasakay na ako ng PAL 747 pero domestic lang, yuon din naman ang gamit nila sa North America kasama ng A340s nila. Bad trip naman ang nag vandalized nuon.

swahi

October 16th, 2009, 10:00 AM

^^ Yes, RP-C7473 was finally returned to service. Now we're all anxiously waiting for the refurbishing of RP-C8167 (which will not receive Recaro seats).

I took that plane (C8167) from LA to Manila last Oct11. Really needs to be fixed up. My seat's light was misaligned, and the controls didnt work properly, specifically the down buttons doesnt work. Ok lang yung channels, just kept on pressing the up button to make it go back to channel 1. Pero pati yung volume, volume up lang ang working, ayaw ng volume down. Needless to say, ang lakas ng earpiece ko! The seat behind me complained the back seat didnt recline properly. The video presentation was very blurred. The seats in front of me also complained of controls that didnt work properly. I hope PAL wouldnt scrimp too much on the upgrade, considering their current financial situation.

On a side note, I took American Airlines and Jetblue as I crisscrossed from west to east and back to the west coast. I was particularly suprised with Jetblue. Their Live TV was great! I watched HBO, ESPN, and a slew of other cable TV shows, live!

mao rong

October 16th, 2009, 12:45 PM

Ito naman kill joy- party pooper LMAO:lol: He could of taken pics at a different angle, who knows? It might be better than what we already saw....

^^anu yung LMAO?

pthfndr19

October 16th, 2009, 12:55 PM

^^anu yung LMAO?

^^ HALIMAW daw hahaha.. Laughing My Ass Off.. mas pa sa LOL. haha:lol::lol:

mao rong

October 16th, 2009, 01:00 PM

^^ HALIMAW daw hahaha.. Laughing My Ass Off.. mas pa sa LOL. haha:lol::lol:

^^:lol::lol:...now i know....:lol:

pthfndr19

October 16th, 2009, 08:38 PM

Lawmaker questions hiring of 109 consultants by CAAP
10/16/2009 | 06:06 PM

A lawmaker on Friday said the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) ought to explain its “irregular" hiring of 109 consultants, many of whom he said had “questionable" backgrounds.

Rep. Philip Pichay (Surigao del Sur) said the 109 consultants in the agency, some of whom he claimed are related to CAAP director general Ruben Ciron, will cost the government a gross amount of P2.1 million every month.

“One of those is a pastor who has the same religious denomination as that of Ciron, a head executive assistant of Ciron, siblings one of which has been with Ciron since his Department of National Defense (DND) stint and a lawyer who has a pending case for disbarment for immorality and sexual harassment," Pichay said in an article on the House of Representatives website.

Other consultants consisted of husbands and wives of CAAP officials, he said, adding that the consultants are all assigned to the CAAP central office.

He said the Air Transportation Office (ATO), CAAP’s forerunner, was run without such consultants. “How come CAAP maintains this number of consultants?" he said.

“This is a clear duplication of functions creating undue disadvantage to the government," he added, noting the consultants perform jobs done by regular employees.

But CAAP spokesperson Eduardo Batac justified the hiring of consultants by saying it was the only way the agency could function because its structure had been under evaluation by the Department of Budget and Management since January.

"The only way we could get qualified tech personnel ... is the hiring of consultants which have very low salaries," he said in a phone interview with GMANews.TV.

Saying there are people "feeding" Pichay "wrong information," Batac maintained that "majority of these are consultants are technically qualified personnel" such as pilots.

Batac said the hiring of such people was necessary as the CAAP is preparing for the International Civil Aviation Organization's audit of the agency from October 19 to 28.

Cash advances

Pichay also questioned the numerous cash advances made by Ciron from May to September 2009 as charged to a Land Bank of the Philippines (LBP) account amounting to a total of P5.3 million.

“There were cash advances made without check numbers and no record of entries in logbooks. These disbursements may have been charged to another bank? The agency is being made a milking cow," he said.

He also inquired on the transfer of CAAP’s revolving fund with Land Bank involving P870 million, to the United Coconut Planters Bank (UCPB) branch in Vito Cruz with account number 120-1-277-386.

“Why transfer to UCPB and why the Vito Cruz branch? Why not in Baclaran, which is nearer?" he asked.

He said CAAP officials should submit before the Committee on Appropriations the list of consultants, their qualifications and responsibilities; a copy of the Board Resolution authorizing the transfer of the LBP account to the UCPB; and the signatories of the checks disbursed within the three-month period for further study before the DOTC’s budget is up for plenary deliberation.

Batac said the CAAP is now preparing for an audit of its transactions, which he said are "all justified" and done in fulfillment of the agency's functions. - with Johanna Camille Sisante, GMANews.TV

hybridace101

October 17th, 2009, 03:14 AM

I took that plane (C8167) from LA to Manila last Oct11. Really needs to be fixed up. My seat's light was misaligned, and the controls didnt work properly, specifically the down buttons doesnt work. Ok lang yung channels, just kept on pressing the up button to make it go back to channel 1. Pero pati yung volume, volume up lang ang working, ayaw ng volume down. Needless to say, ang lakas ng earpiece ko! The seat behind me complained the back seat didnt recline properly. The video presentation was very blurred. The seats in front of me also complained of controls that didnt work properly. I hope PAL wouldnt scrimp too much on the upgrade, considering their current financial situation.

On a side note, I took American Airlines and Jetblue as I crisscrossed from west to east and back to the west coast. I was particularly suprised with Jetblue. Their Live TV was great! I watched HBO, ESPN, and a slew of other cable TV shows, live!

You mean 8168? When I first took that aircraft, I couldn't get the airshow channel. They should just deploy this on domestic and regional routes.

I recently took a trip to SIN on PR 511 last Saturday, the flight was extremely boring in terms of IFE. It wasn't working, the FAs had to do a live demonstration of the safety video. To make matters more questionable, it was the newer A320 I was on. Did anyone have this experience?

romantic_guy08

October 17th, 2009, 04:13 AM

From Pinoyexchange.com PRs first B77W

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2097/img0710t.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6366/img0708j.jpg

Sky Harbor

October 17th, 2009, 04:20 AM

^^ Love the plane, but hate the font! Blech!

mwg12a

October 17th, 2009, 04:49 AM

^^ HALIMAW daw hahaha.. Laughing My Ass Off.. mas pa sa LOL. haha:lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

On a side note, I took American Airlines and Jetblue as I crisscrossed from west to east and back to the west coast. I was particularly suprised with Jetblue. Their Live TV was great! I watched HBO, ESPN, and a slew of other cable TV shows, live!

Jetblue is awesome. I like their service. Not the best but good-decent service.

From Pinoyexchange.com PRs first B77W

Wow! Seriously? PAL's new B777 to be delivered soon?

hybridace101

October 17th, 2009, 05:30 AM

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Jetblue is awesome. I like their service. Not the best but good-decent service.

Wow! Seriously? PAL's new B777 to be delivered soon?

JetBlue is pretty nice. My only problem at the time I flew it was that it didn't serve LAX and SFO and I'm not sure if you can check-through your luggage if your flight originates from a non-JetBlue city. But maybe that's why fares were kept so low. It's the best airline when flying transcontinental routes.

They're doing final test runs and finishing touches on the 77W. We will see it next month. The thing is we don't see it being published in schedules yet.

rayray2009

October 17th, 2009, 05:39 AM

I am so excited about PAL's new 777-300ER! Does anybody know exactly when or what week on November is the delivery of the new plane?

jogavilz

October 17th, 2009, 05:56 AM

^^the plane looks good in PAL colors, kaya lang the name "Philippines" is too big. sana sinundan na lang nila yung sa gemini jets na 777 hehehe

hybridace101

October 17th, 2009, 06:05 AM

I am so excited about PAL's new 777-300ER! Does anybody know exactly when or what week on November is the delivery of the new plane?

I suggest you check out PR's timetables in the next few weeks. Once the flight between MNL and MEL/SYD turns to EQV from A330, it should be a good indicator of when it's expected to be in service.

Noize_320

October 17th, 2009, 06:31 AM

^^ sana gamitin rin sya sa domestic :D:D:D

...i'm too hyped up for "lucky 7"... :D

boom_box

October 17th, 2009, 07:25 AM

-edit-

Maxxclip

October 17th, 2009, 07:34 AM

Plane crashes in Las Piñas—report
INQUIRER.net

MANILA, Philippines – (UPDATE) A plane crashed in Las Piñas Saturday, according to a radio report, quoting an official of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

The DC-3 aircraft crashed into a warehouse in Plaza Quezon, Barangay (village) Aldana, radio dzMM said, citing initial findings by Engineer Bing Lina of NAIA Terminal 1.

Four burned bodies have been seen so far although they have not been identified, the report said.

As of posting time, firemen are trying to put out the flames that engulfed the aircraft following the accident.

boom_box

October 17th, 2009, 09:31 AM

just what I thought... that was a DC-3 judging from the elevator what I saw in the TV news...

it was the only active DC-3 flying in Philippines.. the RP-C550 by Victoria Air.. manufactured in 1944..

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/6/7/0997768.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/2/5/0614523.jpg

bitoy

October 17th, 2009, 10:57 AM

Another sad news in aviation history.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9088/3958533171a41baf02dc.jpg

seven13

October 17th, 2009, 12:01 PM

^^ Love the plane, but hate the font! Blech!

hahah!! the same comment I read in pex :D

wise_zech

October 17th, 2009, 12:21 PM

Post away guys....

wise_zech

October 17th, 2009, 12:22 PM

thread close.....

pthfndr19

October 17th, 2009, 01:34 PM

Another sad news in aviation history.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9088/3958533171a41baf02dc.jpg

^^ OMG! Buti sa abandoned warehouse lang at hindi bumagsak sa mga bahayan.

Noize_320

October 17th, 2009, 02:08 PM

^^ saan nakuha ang pics?

arianespace

October 17th, 2009, 04:31 PM

Sky Harbor

October 17th, 2009, 04:33 PM

^^ Again, love the plane, but hate the font. The kerning's too wide! Blech!

bitoy

October 17th, 2009, 05:15 PM

^^ saan nakuha ang pics?

I got those from here : http://www.daylife.com/search/photos/1/grid?q=manila

Just type anything on the search box that interest you.

Sky Harbor

October 17th, 2009, 06:50 PM

This was posted on PEx. Although one may question why the codeshare to Laoag (easy to answer: huge Ilokano population in Hawaii), the bigger question remains: why Cebu Pacific?

Hawaiian Air launches Cebu Pacific codesharing
20091017 — jimyvr

Hawaiian Air starting 02NOV09 is starting codeshare with Cebu Pacific, which the former’s “HA” code will be displayed on Manila – Laoag service.

Routing HA Codeshare 5J Operating
Manila – Laoag HA1584 5J404
Laoag – Manila HA1585 5J405

http://airlineroute.net/2009/10/17/ha5j-codeshare/

I wonder why Laoag??

dashalvin

October 17th, 2009, 07:04 PM

Anong 3rd largest aircraft manufacturer, Bombardier or Embraer?

Sky Harbor

October 17th, 2009, 07:20 PM

^^ Bombardier.

kubwak

October 17th, 2009, 09:12 PM

^^ OMG! Buti sa abandoned warehouse lang at hindi bumagsak sa mga bahayan.

*sniff*

goodbye goony bird

*taps playing*

*missing man flyby*

*21 gun salute*

*salute*

:badnews:

rayray2009

October 17th, 2009, 09:27 PM

This was posted on PEx. Although one may question why the codeshare to Laoag (easy to answer: huge Ilokano population in Hawaii), the bigger question remains: why Cebu Pacific?

In my opinion, Hawaiian Airlines has chosen Cebu Pacific (rather than PAL) because PAL has flights to Hawaii (HNL) too. So it would not be viable, I guess, to codeshare with an airline with same route. PAL has MNL-HNL vv and has MNL-LAO vv while Cebu Pacific has no MNL-HNL or vv route/flight but they have existing MNL-LAO vv. In addition, Cebu Pacific is showing good performance in the industry and is low cost too. It's just a guess..

mwg12a

October 17th, 2009, 10:51 PM

I was thinking HA used to be in NWA skyteam together with Cebu Pacific, so they have some sort of history together and that, just like what rayray mentioned, PAL also service MNL Honolulu route as well so it's in competition with HA.

pthfndr19

October 17th, 2009, 11:12 PM

PAL offers low-fare, no-baggage-limit promo

abs-cbnNEWS.com | 10/17/2009 8:36 AM

MANILA - "More or less."

That's the tagline of the new promotional offer of local carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) and its subsidiary, budget carrier PAL Express.

"More" free baggage is allowed for passengers of the 2 airlines' flights to 28 domestic destinations. Baggage allowance has been increased to 20 kilos from previous 15 kilos.

"Less" one-way all-in fares are also in store for passengers for various routes.

P888 fares are available for PAL passengers on the following flights:
· Manila-Legazpi,
· Manila-Cebu
· Manila - Roxas

P888 fares for PAL Express on the following flights:
· Manila-San Jose
· Manila-Busuanga,
· Cebu-Bacolod
· Cebu-Iloilo

P1,188 fares for PAL passengers between the following:
· Manila and Laoag
· Manila and Puerto Princesa
· Manila and Bacolod
· Manila and Dumaguete
· Manila and Iloilo
· Manila and Kalibo
· Manila and Tacloban
· Manila and Tagbilaran
· Cebu and Davao

P2,208 fares for PAL passengers between the following:

· Manila and Butuan
· Manila and Cagayan de Oro
· Manila and Cotabato
· Manila and Davao
· Manila and Dipolog
· Manila and General Santos
· Manila and Ozamiz
· Manila and Zamboanga

P1,188 fares for PAL Express passengers between the following:

· Manila and Tuguegarao,
· Manila and Virac
· Manila and Naga
· Manila and Calbayog
· Manila and Catarman
· Cebu and Kalibo
· Cebu and Butuan
· Cebu and General Santos
· Cebu and Cagayan de Oro
· Cebu and Dipolog
· Cebu and Ozamiz
· Cebu and Tacloban.

P1,398 fares for PAL Express passengers for flights between
· Cebu and Zamboanga
· Davao and Zamboanga.

Fares are for one-way, Economy class, inclusive of VAT.

Tickets should be bought between October 16 to 23, 2009. Travel period must be between November 4 to December 10, 2009.

Tickets are non-refundable but upgradeable to a higher fare. These are however not eligible to earn miles under the Mabuhay Miles frequent flyer program.

Interested travelers may book online (http://philippineairlines.com and http://palexpressair.com), or at any PAL ticket offices and accredited travel agents.

The airline also card payments via credit cards Mastercard and Visa, and BancNet ATM cards.

as of 10/17/2009 8:36 AM

hikouki

October 18th, 2009, 03:18 AM

This was posted on PEx. Although one may question why the codeshare to Laoag (easy to answer: huge Ilokano population in Hawaii), the bigger question remains: why Cebu Pacific?

PAL already has MNL-HNL and MNL-Laoag. (They even did MNL-Laoag-HNL some time ago with MD-11s.) PR and HA have been competing fiercely on the MNL-HNL route.

Mukhang palaban ang HA.:nuts:

Muffstar

October 18th, 2009, 06:53 AM

We live in Australia but will be travelling to Manila next year and then on to the US. From peoples experience getting flights from MNL to LAX what are the best options (PAL, Hawian etc?) Are there good travel agents in Makati we could talk to or buying on the net is the best way ?

Any good or bad feedback is welcome, thanks guys.

kiretoce

October 18th, 2009, 06:58 AM

^^ There are numerous ways to get to LAX from MNL, of course PR will be a direct non-stop flight.

Others:

NW/DL via NRT
SQ via SIN
TG via BKK
CX via HKG
JL via NRT
NH via NRT
KE via ICN
OZ via ICN
CI via TPE
BR via TPE

....and whole lot more!

mwg12a

October 18th, 2009, 07:13 AM

I wonder if it's going to be a bit more if they would book a flight to LAX from MNL through an Aussie travel agent. My previous experience wasn't too bad with a US travel agent, flew from LAX to MNL (via HK), stayed in MNL for a week, then MNL to Amsterdam (via HK again) then from Amsterdam JFK. It was AA and CX team.

kiretoce

October 18th, 2009, 08:26 AM

OceanBreezeInn

October 18th, 2009, 10:17 AM

Kalibo airport hikes terminal fees for outgoing passengers

The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) has implemented the new terminal fees for departing passengers of the Kalibo International Airport effective October 15.
Acting Airport Area Manager Efren Nagrama said the increase of charges is pursuant to Section 1 Part V of the Department Order No. 98-1178 (Revised Schedule of Fees and Charges for Alternate International Airport and National Airports) and Department Order 2008-06 (New Classification of Airports in the Philippines) classifying Kalibo airport as an international gateway of airline passengers.
The new passenger service charge for departing passengers, except for transit passengers and children 2 years old and below is increased from P20 to P40 while passengers departing internationally are charged P500.
The fees have been used for projects that included airport runway extension, expanded terminals and improvements for passenger benefits to ensure compliance to international safety and security requirements.
Kalibo International Airport, the busiest airport in the region, is serving the domestic flights of Philippine Airlines, PAL Express, Zest Air and Cebu Pacific for Manila and Cebu route.
It also caters the regional flights for Incheon, Taiwan, Shanghai and Hangzhou in China of Mandarin Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Philippine Airlines and TransAsia Airways.
The national government is constructing a brand new terminal building to handle more than 400,000 passengers yearly. Once operational in December, the terminal is equipped with customs, immigration and quarantine counters.
A public hearing and consultation for the revision of Section Part V of the Department Order No. 98-1178, Series of 1998 was also held for the proposed increase of passenger service charge for domestic flights from the current P40 to P200 and for international flights from P500 to P750.00.

habagatcentral1

October 18th, 2009, 01:26 PM

Sou-jiro

October 18th, 2009, 02:34 PM

so sad about the DC-3 incident...atleast it wasn't in a residential area

on a positive note I finally get to see a real PAL 777 (not an edited one)

cant believe after a long...I hope they use it in Sydney for now since it cant go

to LAX yet. :banana:

mwg12a

October 18th, 2009, 09:59 PM

tigidig14

October 19th, 2009, 12:07 AM

post ko lang sa barcelona airport, el prat
parang kasing laki rin yata sya ng schiphol e

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/1340.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/1344.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/1345.jpg

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Sky Harbor

October 19th, 2009, 01:34 AM

Please listen to your flight attendants on board.
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^^ To be honest, I wish PAL would make these though...their (PAL) safety video looks very artificial, no appeal to the passengers at all...and looks like VHS-era pa. C'mon its 2009! :nocrook:

Yes, the calls for PAL to scrap its current video (which it uses even on refurbished 747s!) are growing louder, especially in the Youtubesphere.

The Thomson video is eye-catching and amusing, but is not the safety video PAL would use given its image. I'd still prefer something along the lines of the TG, AC or CI videos, although the somewhat-mangled English in the CI video is amusing.

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hikouki

October 19th, 2009, 02:49 AM

Yes, the calls for PAL to scrap its current video (which it uses even on refurbished 747s!) are growing louder, especially in the Youtubesphere.

The Thomson video is eye-catching and amusing, but is not the safety video PAL would use given its image. I'd still prefer something along the lines of the TG, AC or CI videos, although the somewhat-mangled English in the CI video is amusing.

...

PAL has commissioned Mon David for a remake of their theme song which is now shown as a short video clip during flights. I wonder why it is not utilized more - like in inflight safety vids, or advertisements, etc.

Sky Harbor

October 19th, 2009, 03:11 AM

^^ They show a jazz remix of "Love at Thirty Thousand Feet" (and the making thereof) on their international flights.

WawaY[625]

October 19th, 2009, 03:42 AM

^^ To be honest, I wish PAL would make these though...their (PAL) safety video looks very artificial, no appeal to the passengers at all...and looks like VHS-era pa. C'mon its 2009! :nocrook:

totoo yan haha ampangit nga, boring then mukhang "thats entertainment" era pa ang pagkakakuha ng video..luma na ba yun?

Sky Harbor

October 19th, 2009, 05:47 AM

^^ Planes are not equipped with HD. It's not justifiable for those small screens! :lol:

jogavilz

October 19th, 2009, 06:42 AM

;44824384']totoo yan haha ampangit nga, boring then mukhang "thats entertainment" era pa ang pagkakakuha ng video..luma na ba yun?

sobrang luma na. 5110 pa ang mobile phones pinakita dun, and yung laptops nila yung makapal pa hehe

Sou-jiro

October 19th, 2009, 06:50 AM

Why not? I think arianspace said it can because the concern in Cat 1 is not with the aircraft type but safety issues like log keeping for recertifications of pilots and other personnels. The only thing with Cat 1 is that the US is not allowing landing rights in other key cities in the US but as far as LAX, SFO and Vegas PAL can still operate there. Although, you might be right, now that I got into thinking since the issue is pilot recertification and other training, that might fall under that category, but i could of swore arianspace mentioned that B777 can be utilized in NA route, maybe he meant to YVR or something. Correct me if I am wrong please.

yes but still,.. I dont think it will just yet..obviously i know it will eventually will since they were meant for they're trans pacific routes..but i don't think it will be right away,.. i wouldn't be surprise if they do come here in Sydney,..well for now anyway..depending on the traffic.

mwg12a

October 19th, 2009, 07:08 AM

mwg12a

October 19th, 2009, 07:09 AM

This is what I got from youtube, an AirPhil safety demo. I don't think I can understand the FA very well. She speaks too fast that sometimes she sounded like she is saying something in Thai language.

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Lucentino

October 19th, 2009, 08:09 AM

1. Can someone here explain how codeshare works (i.e. PAL-Etihad) and can I claim Mabuhay miles out of such? Thanks!

2. Just got info that my NWA WorldPerks was changed to Skymiles and will expire in 2 years! Is it possible for me to convert this into something... Does Korean Air Miles expire?

mwg12a

October 19th, 2009, 08:16 AM

hikouki

October 19th, 2009, 08:40 AM

I think this issue was discussed here before, just scroll back further. I wouldn't doubt they would use B777 to Australia, PAL pretty much deploy aircrafts that are available to where it is needed and can interchange them IMO. For instance, they can utilize B744 they usually use to North America down to Cebu or DVO , so, it would not be something unsual that they would use 747 to Sydney or a B777 perhaps.

It isn't uncommon for airlines to play around with their latest toy.:) They typically deploy them to various short destinations before moving them around their network. I think Oz (or even EU / MEast) is a good destination to test the efficiency of the 77Ws prior to sending them across the Pacific.

Lucentino

October 19th, 2009, 08:45 AM

Delta and NWA has always been in Skyteam, hence skymiles. the difference is DL took over NWA operations and transfered everything that is NWA under their wings. I'm not sure about skymiles expiring in 2 years, I just got my skymiles card where they transfered all my earned mileage under the name of Delta Skymiles, but everything is promised to stay the same and kept my earned mileage the same.
Thanks for the reply. Try to log-in to your NWA/Delta account in their website and see the "new" expiration date there (usually 2 years from now)... I never really like Delta, and with these new policies, they really are something to be desired...

mwg12a

October 19th, 2009, 09:06 AM

Neither do I since I had bad experience with delta but I'm willing to give it a shot again this time.

condoeast

October 19th, 2009, 11:01 AM

sa wakas nakahanap ako ng thread for airports and aviation hehehehhe. hi to all...

dashalvin

October 19th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Sana palitan na ng PAL Express ang kanilang mga Q400s ng E-jets. Q400 cost $27M while E-jets cost $34M.

Sou-jiro

October 19th, 2009, 11:54 AM

^^^

Embraer right?...yes I like them as well..

But on the current financial situation PAL is in its not really the right direction to go.

Beside Q400 suits them on the routes it serves..for turbo props they are faster and quieter than other turbo props.

pthfndr19

October 19th, 2009, 12:13 PM

the_villager

October 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM

the_villager

October 19th, 2009, 12:54 PM

^^ but as my experience ATR of Ceb Pac is more quieter in the inside than Q400 of PAL Express.:)

same observation. ATR is quieter than Q400.

kadayao

October 19th, 2009, 01:04 PM

question: bakit d kasali sa promo ang surigao-manila route? does it mean ba na no need na to have promo fares on this route coz they're enjoying the market?

yes... kaya ang mga taga Surigao minsan mag via Butuan kasi malaki ang difference sa rate... mag tiyaga na lang sila ng land trip to SUG which is around 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

Noize_320

October 19th, 2009, 01:15 PM

Sana palitan na ng PAL Express ang kanilang mga Q400s ng E-jets. Q400 cost $27M while E-jets cost $34M.

i don't think so...not all runways served by PALExpress are long enough to accomodate Regional Jets...

but my big hope is that 2P would come back and buy these type of aircraft :)

dashalvin

October 19th, 2009, 01:25 PM

d_jeb

October 19th, 2009, 01:35 PM

Pathfinder posted before that PR is planning to replace their Q400s with ATRs bcoz of the landing gear problems of these aircrafts. Mahal kasing maintenance. Yan kasi bumili pa ng 2nd hand at alam pa nila ang reason kung bakit ito inalis ng SAS sa kanilang service.

Nagtitipid sa pakikipagsabayan nila sa 5J... to maximize their profit. Sometimes wanting more means losing everthing:lol::lol::lol:

Noize_320

October 19th, 2009, 01:42 PM

Pathfinder posted before that PR is planning to replace their Q400s with ATRs bcoz of the landing gear problems of these aircrafts. Mahal kasing maintenance. Yan kasi bumili pa ng 2nd hand at alam pa nila ang reason kung bakit ito inalis ng SAS sa kanilang service.

i don't hear any problems with the landing gears since...and even PAL is obviously struggling financially right now...so try waiting...

dashalvin

October 19th, 2009, 01:50 PM

i don't hear any problems with the landing gears since...and even PAL is obviously struggling financially right now...so try waiting...

There was an emergeny landing of Q400 before in DVO bound from Zambo.

Noize_320

October 19th, 2009, 01:51 PM

^^ happened once...nothing else followed after...anyway better than a jet overshot...

chevy_boy

October 19th, 2009, 03:39 PM

^^ happened once...nothing else followed after...anyway better than a jet overshot...

Another incident happened in Catarman...

chevy_boy

October 19th, 2009, 03:46 PM

question: bakit d kasali sa promo ang surigao-manila route? does it mean ba na no need na to have promo fares on this route coz they're enjoying the market?

No competition kasi....

Sou-jiro

October 19th, 2009, 04:40 PM

^^ but as my experience ATR of Ceb Pac is more quieter in the inside than Q400 of PAL Express.:)

I was referring from the outsides point of view not from a passenger inside's (though i should have clarified i was referring to Q300 not Q400) Q300 is a quiet aircraft..again (from the outside i was referring to noise levels :nuts:

on a different note, does anyone know if there is a set Date when PALs first 777 officially arrived in Manila?..I'd imagine it would heading for fittings (Avod/Recaros etc) that's in Taiwan right?..correct me if I'm wrong.

Sou-jiro

October 19th, 2009, 04:55 PM

i don't think so...not all runways served by PALExpress are long enough to accomodate Regional Jets...

but my big hope is that 2P would come back and buy these type of aircraft :)

Correct agreed!
yes embraer are faster as they are jet engines...but this would require a longer runway..with Q400 and 300s they can work much efficiently...lets use Naga or Caticlan as an example. Zest Air's Ma60s ( a propeller aircraft) has had two incidents already...(though i wouldn't specifically say its a runway issue as its not) what more for a jet powered embraer.

most embraer are jet engines unless dashalvin is talking about Embraer -120 (a 30 seater prop) and I'm sure your not since your comparing it to a Q400 (a 70+ seater)

also a Q300 can take off at a very small field length of around 690m. Embraer cant do that...i have also observed this on different Airport. :)

mambo

October 19th, 2009, 05:04 PM

^^ Again, love the plane, but hate the font. The kerning's too wide! Blech!

^^thats the b777-300-ER that PAL is leasing right and scheduled to be delivered next month

Sky Harbor

October 19th, 2009, 05:20 PM

2. Just got info that my NWA WorldPerks was changed to Skymiles and will expire in 2 years! Is it possible for me to convert this into something... Does Korean Air Miles expire?

Skymiles will not expire as long as you earn miles at least once every 24 months.

dashalvin

October 19th, 2009, 05:25 PM

Yap, I'm referring to Q400s. They could just add up orders for Q300 since we have short runway airports having less than 1000M in length in our country. But for those airports that are able accomodate regional jets such as Surigao, Siargao, Jolo, Tawi2x, and etc., E-jets could be a good equipment.

pthfndr19

October 19th, 2009, 05:51 PM

Another incident happened in Catarman...

^^ Actually, the one incident happened in Catarman was not an overshot during landing, but was an overshot during taxieng.. dahil sa katangahan ng pilot yun.. umikot ba naman sa kaliwa e puro nga damuhan dun habang napakalawak pa ng pwedeng ikutan sa kanan hehehe.

ito yung picture nung incident last year:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/PAL_Express_in_Catarman.jpg

Blueleo

October 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM

^^ Actually, the one incident happened in Catarman was not an overshot during landing, but was an overshot during taxieng.. dahil sa katangahan ng pilot yun.. umikot ba naman sa kaliwa e puro nga damuhan dun habang napakalawak pa ng pwedeng ikutan sa kanan hehehe.

ito yung picture nung incident last year:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/PAL_Express_in_Catarman.jpg

Ayayay .... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Blueleo

October 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM

AirAsia launches 2010 fare promo

10/19/2009

MANILA - "Plan your holiday ahead."

Low-cost Malaysian carrier AirAsia made this statement as it launched its latest discounted fares promotion to those who wish to spend their holidays abroad next year.

AirAsia is now offering P499 and P1,099 one-way fares from Clark to Kota Kinabalu and Kuala Lumpur, respectively. At present, AirAsia only has direct flights from Clark to these 2 areas in Malaysia.

From Kuala Lumpur, AirAsia is offering the following minimum rates:
- Thailand: Bangkok, Phuket, and Krabi (P848)
- Indonesia: Bandung, Jakarta, Yogyakarta, and Surabaya (P849); Bali (P1,135)
- Cambodia: Siem Reap and Phnom Penh (P1,135)
- Vietnam: Hanoi (P1,423); Ho Chi Minh (P1,135)
- Hong Kong: (P1,425)
- Australia: Melbourne and Perth (P2,859)

Tickets should be bought from October 19 to October 25, 2009.

The promotion is good for travel from January 11 to April 30 next year. Interested travelers may book online for more details.

Holiday packages

Aside from discounted flights, AirAsia said it is also offering the following 3-day, 2-night holiday packages at starting prices:
- Siem Reap (P2,965)
- Hanoi (P3,725)
- Yogyakarta (P3,755)
- Bandung (P3,546)
- Bangkok (P3,740)
- Singapore (P5,126)

AirAsia also has 4-day, 3-night holiday packages in some areas at the following starting prices:
- Guilin (P6,415)
- Hangzhou (P7,869)
- Hong Kong (P10,482)
- Taipei (P10,083)
- Dhaka (P10,952)
- Tianjin (P12,248)
- Perth (P15,087)
- Melbourne (P15,901)
- Abu Dhabi (P18,290)

Customers should be make arrangements from October 19 to November 1, 2009. The promotion is good for travel from January 11 to April 30 next year. Interested travelers may book online for more details.

Recently, local carriers Philippine Airlines and its budget arm, PAL Express, also offered promotional fares for domestic destinations.
as of 10/19/2009 8:41 PM

tigidig14

October 19th, 2009, 08:25 PM

post ko lang sa netherlands
taken about 2 weeks ago hehe
maganda lounging area nila, pedeng matulog, magaling rin silang mag-english

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/117.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/118.jpg

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the_villager

October 20th, 2009, 02:02 AM

yes... kaya ang mga taga Surigao minsan mag via Butuan kasi malaki ang difference sa rate... mag tiyaga na lang sila ng land trip to SUG which is around 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

still dont get the point. so, inspite of the high rates in surigao-manila route still PAL Express has enough passenger load in its daily flight?

ianers_ianized

October 20th, 2009, 03:10 AM

I think this was posted in the previous thread and other forums as well. I am reposting it here if you don't mind. I was told it will fly next week for scheduled test run. Its also a good way to start the thread with something good. Image courtesy of moonm (http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/4018722584/sizes/o/in/photostream/) from flickr.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4018722584_72a3dc3fdc_o.jpg

Wow! PAL's B773 is great. It's my first time to see it in real pic and its here in skyscrapercity... I agree the name font is not similar to the real corporate font of PR. Too much space.

They still opted to Eurowhite livery, I wish they have a new paint scheme on the body. Anyway, I hope to cat it on a plane spotting in NAIA. When is the delivery date?

Sky Harbor

October 20th, 2009, 03:20 AM

^^ Sometime next month.

salamangkero

October 20th, 2009, 03:38 AM

Changi airport T3

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/DSC_1111_186.jpg

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brownislander

October 20th, 2009, 06:29 AM

Parang walang break mag-salita...This is what I got from youtube, an AirPhil safety demo. I don't think I can understand the FA very well. She speaks too fast that sometimes she sounded like she is saying something in Thai language.

GTXPMxMXAR4

Skyblade

October 20th, 2009, 06:50 AM

2. Just got info that my NWA WorldPerks was changed to Skymiles and will expire in 2 years! Is it possible for me to convert this into something... Does Korean Air Miles expire?

As Sky Harbor mentioned, you're miles won't expire as long as you keep your account active, and knowing SkyMiles, earning miles to keep things moving should be a relative breeze. ;)

It is possible to convert your SkyMiles to a Points.com participating program (http://www.points.com), however the conversion rate to swap miles/points between programs is abysmal and not recommended.

Skypass miles do expire 5 years after earning with no extensions whatsoever. The program itself isn't too compelling either when it comes to banking miles from flying with SkyTeam partners.

anonapinoy

October 20th, 2009, 08:29 AM

My friend's house is along the final approach of runway 24 so when I went there yesterday I made it a point to bring along my camera. Just a little commercial from all the discussions here. Enjoy! :banana:

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/PAL.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cathay.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cebpac.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/zest.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/hawaian.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/UN.jpg

kiretoce

October 20th, 2009, 08:50 AM

^^ That helicopter looks like it's stalled and is in freefall. :shocked:

kubwak

October 20th, 2009, 09:13 AM

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/UN.jpg

thats a Mil Mi-8 Hip

used to distribute relief supplies to the typhoon victims

is that russian registry i see on the hip?

@anonapinoy
im not a photography expert but i think the shutter speed your using is too fast. have you tried 1/500sec or 1/640sec?

tsaka baka pwede ba kami maki-planespotting diyan sa inyo kung sakaling pumunta kami ng manila? :)

check out our davao planespotting pics here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=852674&page=27)

RonnieR

October 20th, 2009, 09:32 AM

^^nice shots anonapinoy

Zest Air to launch daily HK flights at DMIA Oct. 24
By FRED M. ROXAS
October 19, 2009, 5:46pm

Local carrier Zest Air is slated to launch its inaugural International flight on October 24 (Saturday) via daily flights to Hong Kong at the bustling Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) the Premier International Gateway of the country.

Clark International Airport Corporation (CIAC) President and CEO Victor Jose I. Luciano, Zest Air President and CEO Ambassador Alfredo M. Yao and Subic Clark Alliance for Development Council (SCADC) Edgardo Pamintuan will lead the inaugural flight of Zest Air on October 24 at the DMIA that will further boost the passenger volume of the airport by the end of this year.

A simple send-off ceremony will be held at the DMIA VIP Lounge at 3 p.m. in the inaugural flight of Zest Air.

Zest Air (formerly Asian Spirit) will be using its brand new Air Bus 320 with a capacity of 166 seats will be arriving at the DMIA at 2:30 p.m. for its first inaugural daily flight to Hong Kong signaling the start of its full commercial operations in Clark Freeport Pampanga.

On its inaugural flight, a roundtrip ticket for only $70 to Hong Kong would be given by Zest Air as part of their promotional campaign at DMIA. Log on to their website at www.zestair.com.ph for your bookings to avail of their Special Rate on October 24.

Zest Air is the second local air carrier to operate international commercial operations at DMIA. The air carrier also flies local domestic operations via Clark-Caticlan flights to the world famous Boracay Beach Island Resort in the Visayas.

“We welcome Zest Air for their international operations at DMIA and CIAC will support their endeavor for the development of the airport,” Luciano said.

Zest Air passenger flight Z2-083 will be coming from Manila then proceed to DMIA at 2:30 p.m. to pick up passengers bound for Hong Kong. The aircraft will be arriving at the Hong Kong International Airport at around 5:40 p.m. where passengers would be treated by a short welcome at the airport.

Zest Air started their South East Asian flights in June 2009 such as Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong, Incheon in South Korea, Fukuoka, and Okinawa in Japan, and their 20 local destinations in the country such as Bacolod, Boracay, Busuanga, Cagayan de Oro, Calbayog, Catarman, Cebu, Clark, Davao, Iloilo, Kalibo, Manila, Legazpi, Naga, Puerto Princesa, Tabales, Tacloban, Tagbilaran, and Virac.
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/225467/zest-air-launch-daily-hk-flights-dmia-oct-24

anonapinoy

October 20th, 2009, 09:56 AM

@kubwak - well, im not photography expert too but in terms of shutter speed, i guess it depends on how much light you have. thanks for the suggestion though, i'll try it next time.

Thanks also for the link to the Davao planespotting thread. I enjoyed the Bronco pics. :banana:

Regarding plane spotting here in Manila, Im not sure if there's actually a group that meets regularly to take some shots. I just go on my own and park any where near the approach area and take a couple of shots.

@RonnieR - salamat po!

Sky Harbor

October 20th, 2009, 12:34 PM

mwg12a

October 20th, 2009, 12:38 PM

That Zest air promo of 70 bucks round trip to/from HK is so damn cheap, that's even cheaper than KC to STL which is even shorter distance comparing to DVO-HK, it usually cost almost US$300.00, you'd be lucky enough if you get 70 one way on promo.

Lucentino

October 20th, 2009, 01:15 PM

My friend's house is along the final approach of runway 24 so when I went there yesterday I made it a point to bring along my camera. Just a little commercial from all the discussions here. Enjoy! :banana:

Nice location and shots!

OT: Can you get a nice view of the passing PNR trains from there as well? :)

As Sky Harbor mentioned, you're miles won't expire as long as you keep your account active, and knowing SkyMiles, earning miles to keep things moving should be a relative breeze. ;)

It is possible to convert your SkyMiles to a Points.com participating program (http://www.points.com), however the conversion rate to swap miles/points between programs is abysmal and not recommended.

Skypass miles do expire 5 years after earning with no extensions whatsoever. The program itself isn't too compelling either when it comes to banking miles from flying with SkyTeam partners.

Your post did not catch my attention the first time. :)

Well, I don't think I would be adding to my Skymiles anytime soon. The Skyteam do not have good timetables for this part of the world, so I guess at this time, the clock is ticking on my miles. :lol:

Can we (still) redeem from Cebu Pacific?

Nice website... might be a good (last minute) option than getting nothing at all... :)

Thanks!

mwg12a

October 20th, 2009, 01:21 PM

Yeah, me neither. Thanks for that info sky_harbor. I always thought that the earned miles never expire. I just haven't logged on my Delta skymiles account online yet so I can't tell just yet.

chevy_boy

October 20th, 2009, 01:21 PM

Will try the CRK-MNL service of Zest Air soon... hmm How much pala terminal fee ng clark for domestic flights?

Blueleo

October 20th, 2009, 01:31 PM

Blueleo

October 20th, 2009, 01:33 PM

My friend's house is along the final approach of runway 24 so when I went there yesterday I made it a point to bring along my camera. Just a little commercial from all the discussions here. Enjoy! :banana:

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/PAL.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cathay.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cebpac.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/zest.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/hawaian.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/UN.jpg

Zest Air pics ang may pinaka-magandang angle shot
:banana: :banana: :banana:

Sky Harbor

October 20th, 2009, 02:08 PM

Will try the CRK-MNL service of Zest Air soon... hmm How much pala terminal fee ng clark for domestic flights?

My guess is P200, but some sources say P150.

seven13

October 20th, 2009, 03:14 PM

My friend's house is along the final approach of runway 24 so when I went there yesterday I made it a point to bring along my camera. Just a little commercial from all the discussions here. Enjoy! :banana:

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/PAL.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cathay.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cebpac.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/zest.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/hawaian.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/UN.jpg

hi, may I know kung saan na village??

hybridace101

October 20th, 2009, 03:47 PM

Question on Changi airport: If my flight lands at T1, can I clear passport control at T2 given that a) they are discretely connected to each other and b) I don't have any check-in luggage? I just feel that the que is shorter for some reason at T2 and that it's closer to the Changi MRT station.

salamangkero

October 20th, 2009, 03:56 PM

^^^i believe you need to clear through T1 immigration before you can exit to T2.

Ph Man

October 20th, 2009, 04:17 PM

jarqz

October 20th, 2009, 04:22 PM

My friend's house is along the final approach of runway 24 so when I went there yesterday I made it a point to bring along my camera. Just a little commercial from all the discussions here. Enjoy! :banana:

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/PAL.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cathay.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/cebpac.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/zest.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/hawaian.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/UN.jpg

Nice shot on PAL A330

anonapinoy

October 20th, 2009, 10:16 PM

@anonapinoy- Good Shots! Your very lucky to be there.
I want to see the B777-300ER of Emirates and Qatar Airways on that spot.

>Maybe we can make a small group of plane spotters here in manila! :)

I actually did catch Qatar Airways once while exiting C5. I don't think i've posted it in this forum so i'll post it now.

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/Qatar.jpg

As to forming a plane spotters group here in Manila, I don't mind actually. Let's see if there are other people interested.

anonapinoy

October 20th, 2009, 10:19 PM

Nice location and shots!

OT: Can you get a nice view of the passing PNR trains from there as well? :)

Thanks! I don't think the railway is visible from my friend's house. It's a good 2 - 3 miles from the runway. But If I do happen to see the trains whenever I'm in SLEX and I have my camera with me then I won't mind taking a shots and posting it in the proper forum. :)

anonapinoy

October 20th, 2009, 10:20 PM

hi, may I know kung saan na village??

Hi, it's inside AFPOVAI.

pthfndr19

October 20th, 2009, 10:47 PM

I think this Embraer - ERJ170 (80-seater) is good for those domestic airports with shorter runways(1300 - 1800 meters I think).
I lreally like this one.. Sana nga ganito ang bilhin ng Air Philippines... at sana bumili na din ang SEAIR ng bigger planes kahit Embraer jets just to simply compete bigger airlines hehe.. kasi pag bumalik na ang PAL, Zest Air at Cebu Pacific sa Caticlan babagsak sila.. buti nakakabawi sila ngayon dahil monopolize nila ang Caticlan...wala silang future kung wala silang vision.(e hindi naman kalakasan ang passenger traffic sa Romblon at Batanes at paano kung magkaroon din sila ng kakompetensya sa route na to). tsk tsk.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/Embraer170.jpg

mwg12a

October 20th, 2009, 11:12 PM

I like ERJ aircrafts, they are very reliable and efficient. I'm still not very fond of flying in it, but that's just me, I hate being in a small aircraft since they pick up turbulance easier just as any small aircrafts there is, just sometimes, you can't go without it especially if you are going into a place or airport with shorter runways.

arianespace

October 21st, 2009, 02:51 AM

^^^
@Anonapinoy

You just captured Zest Air's brand new bird, RP-C8989 (msn 3621).

It was ordered by Air Deccan as VT-DNS in December 2004 before it became Kingfisher Red, the low cost subsidiary of Kingfisher Airlines . It was part of the $2 billion orders for 30 A320 planes made by Deccan Aviation. First delivery of that order was made in 2007 but they managed to accept only 2 deliveries on that order on account of heavy losses from intense competition in India coupled with massive drop in passenger traffic.

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/6/6/2/47010_1227556266.jpg

Since Deccan became Kingfisher in April 2008, it was re-registered as VT-KRD for Kingfisher Airlines. Meanwhile, msn 3621's assembly was completed in September of 2008 and made its first flight on the 12th supposedly for delivery on the same month, but sadly it was not meant to be as orders were cancelled on that month including the bird that now wears the zest livery. It did became an orphan twice.

Kingfisher Airlines was hit hard by the global aviation crisis prompting it to cancel and defer all its remaining orders including the A380.

The brand new aircraft laid idle at Toulouse before adoption papers came in 4th June of 2009 but the deal was kept under wraps until the opening of the Paris Airshow in the 19th.

John Leahy was very happy to have finally find it an Asian parent a thousand miles away from its original home 10 months after its almost ready to fly. It came to the Philippines in July 10 as a happy bird full of Zest.

**********

As for the ERJ, an airline in the Philippines is interested to fly these birds. As to which one, I'm sorry but I'm not allowed to tell anyone until the deal is pushed through. But you can always make a wild guess. I think I did break this story before in the previous thread. I just can't locate it. :)

oninBadz

October 21st, 2009, 03:36 AM

As for the ERJ, an airline in the Philippines is interested to fly these birds. As to which one, I'm sorry but I'm not allowed to tell anyone until the deal is pushed through. But you can always make a wild guess. I think I did break this story before in the previous thread. I just can't locate it. :)[/QUOTE]

^^
i've tried an ERJ once onboard a BMI and it was a nice flight...:)
how about the smallest of the e-jets,is it capable of landing RPMI?does anybody know how long it's runway is?is RPMI a one way approach only,using rnwy 2?why?

seven13

October 21st, 2009, 04:07 AM

Hi, it's inside AFPOVAI.

oohh. thanks!!

arianespace

October 21st, 2009, 04:17 AM

oninBadz

October 21st, 2009, 04:37 AM

^^
At the current state NO. Since the available runway is only 900 meters. The first 500 meters of runway 20 is closed because of runway repairs and expansion. But when the repair and construction work is done and assuming everything else is safe and the weather clear, landing and take-off can be made at either ends depending on the wind and at 1,400 TORA, its more than enough to handle even E-190.

^^

tnx sir,it's good to hear that it can actually handle jet aircrafts.so there's actually repair works goin' on in RPMI?does it mean that CAAP's not abandoning RPMI in favor of laguindingan?:)

Blueleo

October 21st, 2009, 04:41 AM

Sayang putol ang pics ng PAL .. maganda rin sana angle shot. :)

[QUOTE=anonapinoy;44886522]My friend's house is along the final approach of runway 24 so when I went there yesterday I made it a point to bring along my camera. Just a little commercial from all the discussions here. Enjoy! :banana:

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/PAL.jpg

anonapinoy

October 21st, 2009, 06:31 AM

Sayang putol ang pics ng PAL .. maganda rin sana angle shot. :)

I was actually looking at my shots from that angle and noticed all of them are cropped. It must have been the proximity of the planes na hindi kinaya ng lens ko. OR hindi ko lang talaga nakunan ng maganda. Hehe. Anyway, may nahanap ako na buo ang PAL pero hindi sa angulo na gusto mo :)

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/flywithmeric/pal3.jpg

absinthe_888

October 21st, 2009, 06:44 AM

Zest Air launches daily flights from Subic to HK (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=515928&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Ding Cervantes and Ric Sapnu
(The Philippine Star) Updated October 21, 2009 12:00 AM

CLARK FREEPORT, Pampanga , Philippines — Local carrier Zest Air will launch on Saturday its daily Clark-Hong Kong flights at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA).

Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) president and chief executive officer Victor Jose Luciano, Zest Air president Amb. Alfredo Yao and Subic Clark Alliance for Development Council (SCADC) chief Edgardo Pamintuan will witness the inaugural flight.

“This will further boost the passenger volume of the airport by the end of this year,” Luciano said.

Zest Air (formerly Asian Spirit) will be using its brand new Air Bus 320 with a capacity of 166 seats. The first Zest Air passenger flight Z2-083 will be coming from Manila and pick up passengers at the DMIA.

For its inaugural flight, a roundtrip ticket costing only $70 will be charged. This special offer could be accessed via Zest Air’s website www.zest–air.com.ph.

Zest Air is the second local air carrier to operate international commercial operations at DMIA. The air carrier also flies local domestic operations between Clark and Caticlan for those bound for Boracay island resorts.

“We welcome Zest Air for its international operations at DMIA and CIAC will support its endeavor for the development of the airport,” Luciano said.

Zest Air started its Southeast Asian flights at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), last June with such destinations as Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong, Incheon in South Korea, Fukuoka and Okinawa in Japan.

The airline’s local destinations include Bacolod, Boracay, Busuanga, Cagayan de Oro, Calbayog, Catarman, Cebu, Clark, Davao, Iloilo, Kalibo, Manila, Legazpi, Naga, Puerto Princesa, Tabales, Tacloban, Tagbilaran and Virac.

arianespace

October 21st, 2009, 09:08 AM

^^

tnx sir,it's good to hear that it can actually handle jet aircrafts.so there's actually repair works goin' on in RPMI?does it mean that CAAP's not abandoning RPMI in favor of laguindingan?:)

Yes it is as long as its not airbus or baby boeing, and since no airline is flying from it the government decided to repair and renovate the dilapidated runway for safety of future flights.Its actually the best time to do it while clearing operations is going on the ground.

Not exactly. Baloy will stay and Lumbia too. They were there for national security reasons like rapid deployment of troops or supply deployment in case of natural calamities. Its main use however is to service and secure the powerplants of NAPOCOR. There is also one constructed in Wao but its primarily servicing GA traffic, and then there is Malabang which is still an airport doubling its duty as a road while no planes land at it. And then there is Allah valley down south. Its not really safe to fly in those areas nowadays.

Sky Harbor

October 21st, 2009, 10:18 AM

^^ I know CGY will stay on as a military airport after its civil operations have been decommissioned, but what will happen to IGN?

Sou-jiro

October 21st, 2009, 10:48 AM

Those were great shots! and very close!

Just a questions,..since those pics are posted, does anyone here have a you tube acc where you post video on youtube,

just a questions since there's been quite a lot of pics lately. Though taking a video near NAIA may turn out to be a dangerous hobby.lol

I'd love to be able to try and take videos near the runway.

Anyway cant wait to see PALs 777 in NAIA

We should have a competition among poster 's here who can post the first pic of PALs 777 in NAIA heheh "just a though"

kubwak

October 21st, 2009, 11:50 AM

Bird Strike

courtesy of Inquirer (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20091021-231494/Bird-strike-delays-flight-to-Manila-by-5-hours)

Bird strike delays flight to Manila by 5 hours

By Nestor P. Burgos Jr.
Inquirer Visayas
First Posted 16:17:00 10/21/2009

Filed Under: Air Transport, Air safety, Animals

ILOILO CITY, Philippines—A Cebu Pacific flight bound for Manila was delayed for around five hours Wednesday morning after a bird strike caused the plane technical problems.

The Cebu Pacific Air said in a statement that Flight 5J41, which left Manila around 4:45 a.m. and arrived at the Iloilo airport around 6 a.m., encountered a bird strike during its trip, which subsequently delayed its turnaround flight from Iloilo to Manila, Flight 5J542, by five hours and 10 minutes.

Flight 5J542, with 149 passengers and scheduled to depart at 6:20 a.m., was able to depart only at around 11:30 a.m. after a repair rescue team flew in from Manila, according to the airline's statement.

A bird strike occurs when a bird or a group of birds collides with an airplane, which can cause engine or technical problems especially if the bird is sucked into the plane's engine.

dashalvin

October 21st, 2009, 02:17 PM

Tuloy pa ba ang plan ng 5J to acquire A330s? I hope they can itroduce flights to Australia next year.

hybridace101

October 21st, 2009, 02:57 PM

^^^i believe you need to clear through T1 immigration before you can exit to T2.

When I was in T1, I needed to pass thru the T1 immigration before I could get into the train councourse that connects to T2.

Really? What I observed about SIN and KUL unlike other international airports is that the airside corridors for arriving and departing passengers are shared between the gate and passport control. That is, once passengers leave the plane and gate area, they aren't separated from departing passengers. This is I think convenient for those who want to make a connecting flight in style. Hence, if your flight is located in another terminal, you can just take the skytrain airside.

Hence, if you go to T2 passport control, will the officers there send you back if your flight landed at T1?

dashalvin

October 21st, 2009, 03:00 PM

Na repair na pala ang 2 Xian MA60 ng Zest Air. They now have 5 MA60s then 3 A320s. Plus the upcoming 2 A320s, 2 767s, and 6 MA60s bringing their fleet next year to 18.

Sky Harbor

October 21st, 2009, 03:12 PM

From the PEx grapevine comes a very beautiful PAL advertisement from 1989.

PJp5D6TZLbQ

jogavilz

October 21st, 2009, 04:19 PM

^^awww that was sweet :)
@0:43 is that Capt Ben Hur Gomez of Omni Aviation? or baka kahawig lang niya.

mwg12a

October 21st, 2009, 04:29 PM

From the PEx grapevine comes a very beautiful PAL advertisement from 1989.

PJp5D6TZLbQ

I was very young back then also but i remember that PAL commercial/advertisement.

I like that old PAL FA uniform there, too bad that it was a bit inconvinient for them to wear around the cabin. Atleast that's what I heard as one of the main reason they changed it.

Sky Harbor

October 21st, 2009, 04:33 PM

^^ If the baro was the problem, they could change the cloth.

Bahay_Kubo

October 21st, 2009, 04:46 PM

old Philippine Airlines TV ads- three of the most beautiful TV ads on Philippine TV. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ss-d8Hf498&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1AtH7cMIUI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQSOfc_2Bg

mwg12a

October 21st, 2009, 04:47 PM

@ sky_harbor - I am not sure which was the problem but apparently, it can easily get caught on anything while they are serving. "Baro" is the skirt? I thought baro is the whole thing, as in the whole ensemble. ( I am not really good in clothing terms and lingos)

Sky Harbor

October 21st, 2009, 04:48 PM

^^ The ensemble is the baro't saya. The blouse is the baro. The skirt is the saya. And yes, I heard that the ensemble (either the baro or the saya) would get snagged in the carts, which made serving food difficult.

Then again, they could use the terno or the Maria Clara.

Sky Harbor

October 21st, 2009, 05:24 PM

Again, from the PEx grapevine: Air Philippines is BACK, flying MNL-WNP every Friday.

ianers_ianized

October 21st, 2009, 05:35 PM

@anonapinoy- Good Shots! Your very lucky to be there.
I want to see the B777-300ER of Emirates and Qatar Airways on that spot.

>Maybe we can make a small group of plane spotters here in manila! :)

I agree, here's my couple of shots from NAIA T1 to share

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/SQFamily073.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/SQFamily075.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/SQFamily077.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/SQFamily084.jpg

tigidig14

October 21st, 2009, 07:41 PM

se-share ko lang yung charles de gaulle (cdg) airport in paris.
anyway, last week we were stuck in orly airport, their smaller airport,
kasi nag-strike yung airline na sasakyan namin; tapos, we ended up sleeping in cdg. sobrang lamig, kawawa rin mga tao, dami ring bata; then, at midnight, sinarado pa nila yung restroom. di na ko lilipad sa bansa nila because i have heard stories that french national sport is striking.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1363.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1366.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1370.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1367.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1616.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1615.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/airplane/1622.jpg
nakuhaan ko pa yung concorde, palipad :lol:

BULLDOG

October 21st, 2009, 08:00 PM

Na repair na pala ang 2 Xian MA60 ng Zest Air. They now have 5 MA60s then 3 A320s. Plus the upcoming 2 A320s, 2 767s, and 6 MA60s bringing their fleet next year to 18.

Wow! fast growing airline.....congrats Zest Air sana A320 ang gamitin nila in their Manila-Siargao flight.

BULLDOG

October 21st, 2009, 08:05 PM

Again, from the PEx grapevine: Air Philippines is BACK, flying MNL-WNP every Friday.

Nice Air Phil is back sana bumalik na rin sila sa kanilang Surigao route

pthfndr19

October 21st, 2009, 09:08 PM

Again, from the PEx grapevine: Air Philippines is BACK, flying MNL-WNP every Friday.

^^ Oh really! Kelan mag-start? and why every Friday only? at anong aircraft ang gagamitin?

Sky Harbor

October 21st, 2009, 09:26 PM

^^ I presume immediately, since no date was listed. They'll be using their old 737s.

Igsuonnimo

October 21st, 2009, 10:10 PM

Boeing posts wider loss, reaffirms 787 schedule (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091021/bs_nm/us_boeing)
REUTERS

By Kyle Peterson Kyle Peterson – Wed Oct 21, 12:40 pm ET

CHICAGO (Reuters) – Boeing Co (BA.N) on Wednesday posted a larger-than-expected quarterly loss on costs related to its long-delayed 787 Dreamliner program, but the world's second-largest planemaker reaffirmed that the aircraft is on track to fly this year.

The loss, combined with a lowered 2009 earnings outlook, sent shares down in early trading, although most of the details in the earnings statement had been previously publicized.

"The surprise was they reiterated the (787) schedule," said Alex Hamilton, senior managing director at Jesup & Lamont.

"I always look at these as opportunities to kind of reset the bar," Hamilton said. "I think there's a lot of skepticism growing on the street about their delivery schedule."

Chicago-based Boeing and rival Airbus (EAD.PA) have been hit hard this year as carriers and cargo operators grapple with the global recession and credit crisis. Meanwhile, Boeing's defense unit struggles with sweeping government budget cuts.

Boeing said its revenue was $16.7 billion, up 9 percent from the year-ago period, which was impacted by a labor strike, but still far short of $17.16 billion that analysts had expected, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

"There is no doubt that both our commercial and defense businesses continue to face challenging times right now," Boeing Chief Executive Jim McNerney said on a conference call with analysts and reporters.

Shares of Boeing, a Dow component, were down 1.18 percent at $51.28 at midday on the New York Stock Exchange.

DREAMLINER ON TRACK

Boeing has grappled this year with delays to the Dreamliner program. The Dreamliner is Boeing's upcoming aircraft that features revolutionary composite materials and construction methods. The plane is two years behind schedule, and some industry watchers say it could be delayed further.

Boeing said on Wednesday the plane would fly this year with first delivery set for the fourth quarter of 2010. The company has a record 840 firm orders for Dreamliners from 55 customers.

The company previously said it would reclassify to research and development costs incurred through July for the first three 787 flight-test planes. Those costs amounted to $2.46 per share. Boeing reported an additional cost of 14 cents per share related to spending on those planes for August and September.

Earlier this month, Boeing said it would delay the first flight and delivery of its 747-8 Freighter and take a 99-cent-per-share third-quarter charge because of high production costs and tough market conditions.

To reflect the 787 and 747 impacts, earnings guidance for 2009 has been changed to a range of $1.35 to $1.55 per share, from $4.70 to $5.00 previously.

"The 787 cost reclassification and the 747 charge for increased costs and difficult market conditions clearly overshadowed what continues to be otherwise solid performance across our commercial production programs and defense business," McNerney said in a statement.

"We look forward to getting the 787 and 747-8 in the air soon and moving forward with flight test and certification for these two important programs," he said.

THE NUMBERS

Boeing said its net loss was $1.6 billion, or $2.23 per share, compared with a profit of $695 million, or 96 cents per share, a year earlier.

Excluding a loss from discontinuing operations, Boeing's quarterly loss was $2.22 per share, compared with analysts' estimates for a loss of $2.12 per share, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

Boeing Commercial Airplanes posted a loss from operations of $2.8 billion. A year ago the unit posted earnings of $394 million. Revenue for the division increased 13 percent to $7.9 billion on higher deliveries.

The division booked 96 gross orders during the quarter, while 17 orders were canceled. Its backlog was $254 billion.

Boeing's Integrated Defense Systems' earnings from operations were $885 million. Third-quarter revenue was up 3 percent to $8.7 billion on increased military aircraft deliveries.

(Reporting by Kyle Peterson; editing by John Wallace, Dave Zimmerman and Gunna Dickson)