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absinthe_888

June 1st, 2010, 01:39 PM

That hill (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=580313&publicationSubCategoryId=64)
FIRST PERSON By Alex Magno (The Philippine Star) Updated June 01, 2010 12:00 AM

Standing resolutely over a vital channel, Caticlan Hill moderates the crisscrossing winds. But its fate now rests on crisscrossing interests swirling around an airstrip too short for the load it must bear.

As mentioned in a previous column, Caticlan Hill is now the site of a battle between hardy environmentalists pitted against large corporate as well as political interests. That “hill”, if we might call it that, is a slight rise in the land formation right at the end of the Caticlan runway.

Landform specialists have concluded that the hill performs a crucial role in producing the fine white sand that has made Boracay beach the seductive destination that it has become. The hill is a barrier that moderates both the habagat and the amihan, creating micro-climatic conditions favorable to the formation of the Boracay beach. Take away the hill and harsh winds will move waters in the precarious channel more rudely.

Instead of accumulating fine ground coral on the famous beach, the rude waters could wipe it away. The gentle waters in the area enable the rare coral sand of Boracay that does not burn the feet even in the hottest days.

The hill is now under threat. San Miguel Corporation has won the rights to upgrade the tiny Caticlan airport that is a main entry point for hordes of tourists heading to Boracay. Although an environmental clearance certificate has been issued for the upgrade, it speaks of a domestic airport, not an international air facility.

Although not explicitly stipulated in the environmental clearance certificate, the extension of the runway will mean bulldozing the hill, leveling it completely so that the airstrip will run through. The ecologists say this will alter the microclimate of the area and probably lead to extinction of Boracay — whose lure is the reason why the airport is being upgraded in the first place.

The provincial government of Aklan is not opposed to upgrading the Caticlan airport. But it is firmly opposed to building this up to the grade of an international airport. They favor improving the air facility so long as it remains domestic grade.

The reason for the opposition has nothing to do with the microclimate of the area. Aklan province is nursing the Kalibo international airport, seeing this as the hub for a tourism circuit including all provinces in Panay Island. If its own tourism strategic plan prevails, Kalibo will be a busy hub servicing tourist flow to several destinations, Boracay included.

The present governor has plans of building a large leisure estate in Kalibo, featuring a marina and possibly fast craft that can ferry tourists to Boracay in 15 minutes. If investments are found and this plan is carried out, it could seriously undercut the business the Caticlan airport might be capable of generating.

Conversely, a Caticlan International Airport could as well undercut the business of the Kalibo Marina estate, or whatever that facility will be called. At any rate, the Aklan provincial government is not fighting to save the hill. It is fighting to save its place on the tourism map, along with the viability of its projected marina.

Investors in the various tourist establishments on Boracay itself are of two minds regarding the extension of the Caticlan runway. As it stands, the runway is far too short to be safe, considering that during high season the facility services over 48 flights a day. They are happy the Caticlan airport will be improved because this will help increase tourist traffic to the overbuilt island resort.

On the other hand, they are aware of the studies that have been done linking the Caticlan hill to the quality of sand on Boracay’s beach. They fear that if the hill is taken out, their precious sand might disappear with it.

The people of Caticlan are of two minds as well. They welcome the upgrading of the airport. It will make their sleepy little village a bustling and prosperous place. Imagine, a tiny village having its own international airport.

On the other hand, they fret over the noise the planes will make, the influx of strangers coming in to work in the place and, yes, the apparent connection between the hill and the sand across the channel. This little settlement will be completely swamped by an international airport. That will both put Caticlan on the map and wipe it off the face of the earth.

To be sure, the Caticlan runway has to be extended. Taking the runway out to sea will entail much larger expense than taking down the hill on one end of the present facility. In order to extend the runway to the sea, much piling will have to be done. Reclamation is always a costly proposition and, in this case might make very little business sense.

At any rate, a separate set of environmental issues attend the extension seawards of the runway. Water flow in the tiny channel will be impeded. Marine life will be disturbed. Who knows what else happens when water behavior in the area is altered by the construction of a runway into the sea.

We have here a classic case of ecology versus overdevelopment. We are talking here of building a four-kilometer runway to serve as entry point to a world-famous four-kilometer beachfront.

San Miguel has all the cards here. The corporation can choose to more closely study the scientific documents being presented by advocates of environmental protection and revise its plans accordingly. Or, the corporation can just ignore the ecological warning signs and move on business as usual, looking only at the profits to be made.

If an environmental tragedy is produced here, that will diminish an old corporation’s brand equity. At any rate, the fate of Caticlan hill will probably be decided in San Miguel’s boardroom.

The more chilling thought, however, is that San Miguel might go right ahead, build the facility on rights it now holds and then flip it over to the next highest bidder — washing its corporate hands of whatever legacy costs there might be to this particular development.

alcogoodwin

June 1st, 2010, 02:24 PM

hehe great job at multi-national avenue mate! i was gonna try that few yrs back but decided not too.

hmmm now you made me tempted to try that this later this year....i'll give it a go even in the middle of floods and typoons :D

Rod

Let me knowhow you go.
Stand your ground with the security guards. They keep arguing and debating, but dont try to stop you.
Think they just need to be seen to be doing something.

alcogoodwin

June 1st, 2010, 02:34 PM

It is made by PPC. Rumor has it that it is related to Herpa. It is quite good!:)

Product review here:
http://www.wings900.com/vb/1-500-scale-discussion/47757-member-model-review-philippine-airlines-777-36ner-ppc.html

Just compared my one from SM (Gemini Jets) with the one available from PAL.

Thing that sticks out the most, besides the unusual coding, is the placing of the 'Philippines' along the sides.
On the Gemini one the wording is very small ands easily fits between the 1st and 2nd side doors, where it is obviously much larger on the PPC one.

As the PAL 777 was likely pretty new, or perhaps not even delivered, when the model was done. Was there an amount of guessing on their part, or did some get smaller lettering??

Brad

hikouki

June 1st, 2010, 04:07 PM

Just compared my one from SM (Gemini Jets) with the one available from PAL.

Thing that sticks out the most, besides the unusual coding, is the placing of the 'Philippines' along the sides.
On the Gemini one the wording is very small ands easily fits between the 1st and 2nd side doors, where it is obviously much larger on the PPC one.

As the PAL 777 was likely pretty new, or perhaps not even delivered, when the model was done. Was there an amount of guessing on their part, or did some get smaller lettering??

Brad

GJ (1/400) and Herpa (1/500) produced models with the exact same positioning of the titles. But these two companies are unrelated (and in fact competitors). And these two only make models after receiving official blueprints (from the airline). So the GJ and Herpa models were probably both "design studies," especially considering they were manufactured almost a year ahead of the delivery of RP-C7777.

The PPC version is the official model. The only one so far.:)

alcogoodwin

June 2nd, 2010, 04:34 AM

GJ (1/400) and Herpa (1/500) produced models with the exact same positioning of the titles. But these two companies are unrelated (and in fact competitors). And these two only make models after receiving official blueprints (from the airline). So the GJ and Herpa models were probably both "design studies," especially considering they were manufactured almost a year ahead of the delivery of RP-C7777.

The PPC version is the official model. The only one so far.:)

Maraming salamat for that.
I shall attempt to get a PPC one as soon as possible.

Brad

habagatcentral1

June 2nd, 2010, 10:25 AM

I don't know if this has been confirmed. Just received a text message from Lord Carnal of SSC Cebu and has stated that Philippine Airlines has a new owner in the name of Manny Osmeña, owner of Cebu Hilton.

jogavilz

June 2nd, 2010, 11:03 AM

PAL Express plane with Airphil Express titles

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/S5002315.jpg

suri_maw2020

June 2nd, 2010, 11:07 AM

ooh..ohhh...panibagong adjsutment na naman ito sa mga Staff ng PAL,at pagdating ng panahon baka ang Main Hub na nang PAL ay sa MCIA........wheeeww....

I don't know if this has been confirmed. Just received a text message from Lord Carnal of SSC Cebu and has stated that Philippine Airlines has a new owner in the name of Gary Osmeña, owner of Cebu Hilton.

suri_maw2020

June 2nd, 2010, 12:04 PM

Mukhang di kinaya na naman ng server ng PAL, dahil sa promo nila ngayong araw na ito....

Down sila kanina pa....wheeeeeeeewwwwww

Kintoy

June 2nd, 2010, 01:07 PM

St. Louis to Cincinatti, Delta 6072:

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/P5238627_2.jpg

May 23, 2010

Kintoy

June 2nd, 2010, 01:23 PM

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/P5250461_1.jpg

May 25, 2010

Blueleo

June 2nd, 2010, 02:59 PM

Airlines should stop boarding sick passengers NZ researchers say
June 2, 2010, 3:37pm

WELLINGTON (dpa) – Airlines and health authorities need to consider how they can prevent sick people from boarding flights, according to New Zealand researchers who said Wednesday there was a ''small but measurable risk'' of contracting swine flu in the air.

The research was based on New Zealand's first experience of pandemic influenza A/H1N1 virus in April 2009, when a flight arrived in Auckland with a group of infected high school pupils returning from a trip to Mexico.

Ten members of the group had symptoms when they boarded the flight in the United States, and two other passengers became sick after the flight and were also confirmed with swine flu.

The researchers said that the timing of their illness was consistent with exposure during the flight and the known incubation period for influenza A.

''The pandemic gave us a unique opportunity to investigate the risk of influenza transmission on a flight. Because this was an entirely new virus to New Zealand, we know that the only place it could come from was from other passengers on this flight,'' said Associate Professor Michael Baker of the University of Otago.

''Better exit screening at airports might help detect infectious cases so that they can be managed to reduce the risk of infecting others.''

The research, led by Baker and Dr Craig Thornley of the Auckland Regional Public Health Service has just been published online by the British Medical Journal.

A university statement said it was the first scientifically documented outbreak of influenza on a plane in recent times.

''It's reassuring that infections were few in number and were only seen in passengers sitting close to infected people on the flight,'' Baker said.

''That suggests transmission by small droplets produced by coughing and sneezing rather than via fine aerosols carried through the planes air-conditioning system.''

xxxriainxxx

June 2nd, 2010, 03:20 PM

d ko makalimutan experience dyan sa Noi Bai Airport, may sumingit sakin sa immigration yun ako na ang susunod papatatak ng visa..ang kapal ng mukha, may putok pa!..lalaki ,viet ata yun, kulay pink ang luggage nya, mukhang may sayad...:lol::lol::lol:

hahaha. ganyan talaga sila dito, alang urbanidad. LOL

thescene

June 2nd, 2010, 03:30 PM

International passenger traffic flow to RP up 11.6% in Q1

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/06/02/10/international-passenger-traffic-flow-rp-116-q1

MANILA, Philippines - International passenger traffic flow to the Philippines in the first quarter grew by 11.6% from a year ago, raising hopes that the airline and tourism industries will start recovering from the global economic crisis.

Data released by the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) on Wednesday showed total passenger traffic of about 3.441 million by end-March this year, compared to 3.1 million recorded in the same period last year. CAB said passenger traffic grew even as some airlines are imposing higher fuel surcharges.

Of the total, 1.6 million comprised incoming passengers, while 1.9 million were outbound passengers.

The airline regulator said that of the 44 airline carriers with authority to operate in the country, only 36 airlines operated during the period.

The CAB said Air Nauru and Vietnam Airlines ceased flying to the Philippines in 2001. British Airways also stopped flying to the Philippines in 2002. Airlines Swissair, Egyptair, Air France and P.T. Bouraq stopped in 2004. Germany's Lufthansa Airlines ceased operations in April 2008.

The country's flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) registered the highest number of international passenger flown with 942,144.

The Lucio Tan-owned airline recorded incoming passengers at 450,364, while its outgoing passengers reached 491,780.

Cebu Pacific, the airline unit of local conglomerate JG Summit Holdings, carried 482,114 international passengers, of which incoming passengers stood at 227,348 and 254,766 comprised outbound passengers.

Zest Airways, owned by businessman Alfredo Yao recorded 15,283 passengers, while Spirit de Manila had 2,747.

habagatcentral1

June 3rd, 2010, 04:20 AM

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/P5250461_1.jpg

May 25, 2010
After all these years, they still put the legacy of its Soviet history. The hammer and sickle are still present in the modern-day Russian flag carrier.

kenken94

June 3rd, 2010, 07:36 AM

ooh..ohhh...panibagong adjsutment na naman ito sa mga Staff ng PAL,at pagdating ng panahon baka ang Main Hub na nang PAL ay sa MCIA........wheeeww....

If so, then Cebuano na ang may-ari ng Flag Carrier ng Pilipinas?

Sky Harbor

June 3rd, 2010, 07:39 AM

Fraulein

June 3rd, 2010, 07:39 AM

Having two brands is a winner for us, says Qantas chief
http://www.smh.com.au/business/having-two-brands-is-a-winner-for-us-says-qantas-chief-20100531-wrfo.html

ONE business day after Virgin Blue announced a significant downgrade in its profit outlook, Qantas announced new aircraft deliveries and services and said its two-brand strategy was working.

The chief executive, Alan Joyce, who was in Adelaide yesterday to announce a three-year, $44 million marketing promotion with Tourism Australia, said the group was in the ''unique'' position of being able to respond to changes in traveller demand by adjusting the mix between its full-service Qantas or budget-conscious Jetstar airlines.

''We can change some leverage of growth: accelerate Qantas's growth, slow down Jetstar's growth. We have complete flexibility on that depending on which brand makes the best returns,'' he said. ''We do look at the performance of each of the two brands and make decisions based on who gives us the best return …

''We can defer [aircraft] retirements, we have the ability to increase utilisation; in Jetstar we have leases that we can renew or terminate.''

While demand from lucrative business and corporate travel had been hit by external factors such as the global financial crisis, swine flu and more recently the eruption of the Icelandic volcano, there were encouraging signs that demand for premium travel was returning, he said.

Jetstar, too, had seen increases in demand from leisure travellers. In Asia, Jetstar had increased capacity by 24 per cent in April, and there had been a ''whopping'' 40 per cent increase in demand, Mr Joyce said.

Meanwhile, in a dig at the proposed Virgin Blue-Air New Zealand alliance on the trans-Tasman route, Qantas's commercial director, Rob Gurney, boasted there was ''no confusion'' for passengers on Qantas or Jetstar over what they get for their fare.

''We still believe in the future of the business travel market on the trans-Tasman. At the same time we have our value-based airline Jetstar for the leisure segment,'' he said. ''Between the two brands we believe we have the best and simplest proposition for the customer.''

Mr Joyce said that for its domestic strategy, it was important for Qantas to invest in services that premium flyers expect, such as web and mobile phone check-in technologies, direct baggage drops and priority security screening for premium travellers to reduce queueing in airports.

''This is one of the biggest enhancements we are going to make in terms of the domestic travel experience, which is [to reduce] queue times,'' he said.

Mr Joyce also used the occasion to announce an increase in services flying the double-decker Airbus A380 super-jumbo as more are delivered.

Qantas has six A380s and its seventh is due by the end of this month. It will have another two by year's end and the 10th by next March.

Its twice-weekly A380 Melbourne-Singapore-London return flights will go to five a week when its eighth A380 arrives, six a week after the ninth and daily after the 10th.

Its seventh A380 will enable the craft to be used on the Sydney-London route daily.

The 10 A380s will also allow the craft to be used more frequently on the Melbourne-Los Angeles route.

From September 21, flights on the Sydney-Johannesburg route will rise from six a week to daily. South African Airways will continue to codeshare.

From November, Sydney-Manila services will use Airbus A330s, rather than Boeing 767s.

Sky Harbor

June 3rd, 2010, 07:47 AM

boom_box

June 3rd, 2010, 08:48 AM

I just saw the government ad of airports boasting the operations of NAIA T3 and Iloilo Intl airport...

nakakapagtaka.. di sinali yung Bacolod-Silay Airport.. :ohno:

hikouki

June 3rd, 2010, 09:48 AM

Sou-jiro

June 3rd, 2010, 12:41 PM

^^ If the rumors are true, yes. However, I haven't seen any corporate disclosures from PAL on the website of the PSE, or any formal announcement coming from them.

Hopefully Gary Osmeña will pick up on where Lucio Tan left off and will continue to push with PAL's ambitious expansion plans.

wow..if this is the case then as per my previous post last week in a little way,...
my wish has been answered.

:cheers:
"Sometimes I wonder what if PAL is wholly owned back in
the hand of the Philippine Government.
(again) instead of being by LT. I want to see PAL
back with its wings.

This whole issue is not just PAL management but also the
government joint operation and management.
They ned to do more bold thinkin".

alcogoodwin

June 3rd, 2010, 02:31 PM

^^ This was announced on PEx (QF upgauging SYD-MNL to A330s). I'm not sure though how well the upgrade will play out, since from what I see, PAL still has a better Y product. On C however, the A330s have a very competitive product.

Hmmmm Qantas must have some derelict A330s they wish to retire soon :lol:

Every time I have flown to Manila by them the plane has later ended up in the wrecking yard.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/6/4/0101468.jpg

boom_box

June 3rd, 2010, 02:51 PM

Hmmmm Qantas must have some derelict A330s they wish to retire soon :lol:

Every time I have flown to Manila by them the plane has later ended up in the wrecking yard.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/6/4/0101468.jpg

I didn't know they operate 747SP back then...

kiretoce

June 4th, 2010, 03:20 AM

Hmmmm Qantas must have some derelict A330s they wish to retire soon :lol:

Every time I have flown to Manila by them the plane has later ended up in the wrecking yard.

Maybe you're the "bad luck" that plagues their fleet. :lol: :jk: :nocrook:

ianers_ianized

June 4th, 2010, 04:28 PM

I just saw the government ad of airports boasting the operations of NAIA T3 and Iloilo Intl airport...

nakakapagtaka.. di sinali yung Bacolod-Silay Airport.. :ohno:

Cut lang po siguro... Sa TV5 pinalabas yung buong documentary ng achievements ni GMA at BCD-Silay Airport is included as well as NAIA 3, ILO, DVO, Clark and expansions of airport in Kalibo, and Legazpi...

In fairness to Arroyo, madami dami padin syang positive contribution/achievement sa aviation/airline industry kahit me Cat2 at EU Ban.

Blueleo

June 5th, 2010, 10:22 AM

Most Complained-About Airlines
Have an airline gripe? Who doesn’t? Here are the U.S. airlines with the most complaints—and how you can make your voice heard, too.
By Valaer Murray

We’ve all had problems while flying. The airline lost my bag! That gate agent was so rude! I missed my connection! Sometimes we can brush it off as an unfortunate consequence of air-travel convenience. But other times we just can’t let it go. Fortunately, plenty of outlets exist for expressing our frustrations and rectifying problems.

The airline itself is the place to start. After all, it’s the one with the power to refund your money or issue credit, which can go a long way toward assuaging anger.

A disappointing response from an airline, however, can leave you feeling powerless. But Uncle Sam is on your side: Since the mid ’80s, the Department of Transportation has held U.S.-based airlines responsible for customer-service issues. The first step is to file a complaint with the DOT’s Aviation Consumer Protection and Enforcement division.

The ACPE categorizes complaints by type—from oversales and fare misinformation to rude customer service and false advertising—and an analyst investigates each one. Not surprisingly, most passenger issues involve flight problems like cancellations or delays. These aren’t always the airline’s fault, of course. And passengers understand: the DOT says that complaints stemming from these incidents usually have more to do with the airline’s handling of the situation.

So what airline is doing it right? On the DOT’s official report (on which we relied for our list), that would be Southwest—the perennial consumer favorite that registered the lowest number of complaints the past three years running. The airline’s fans continually remark on the friendly customer service, which Kello agrees can defuse a stressful trip. “Smiles,” he says, “don’t cost airlines a penny.”

Top 10 Most Complained-About Airlines:

No. 1: Delta

1.96 per 100,000 passengers

Delta dropped the ball this past year. One DOT official attributes the airline’s most-complained-about status to its merger with Northwest. Regardless, Delta has some work to do: it was the worst offender in nearly all categories, especially flight problems, reservations, and baggage. The airline’s response? Complaints are handled, said a spokesperson, “on a case-by-case basis in the order they are received.”

No. 2: United Airlines

1.34 complaints per 100,000 passengers

The skies aren’t so friendly to passengers when it comes to mishandled luggage or flight cancellations and delays. True, the airline’s record is improving—the complaint rate in 2008 was 1.86—but its planned merger with Continental may cause more snafus, at least in the short term.

No. 3: US Airways

1.31 complaints per 100,000 passengers

Here’s the good news: in 2008, US Airways came in dead last for service with a rate of 2.01 complaints (and a whopping 3.16 in ’07), so clearly the airline has focused on improving its score. But alas, here’s the bad news: mistakes made with reservations, ticketing, and boarding remain the airline’s Achilles’ heel.

No. 4: Northwest Airlines

1.21 complaints per 100,000 passengers

Northwest had a spectacular fall from grace in 2009, dropping a full eight spots to its unfortunate current ranking. What happened? The Delta merger—involving an admittedly complicated integration of ticketing and gates—was the likely culprit.

No. 5: American Airlines

1.07 complaints per 100,000 passengers

Only Southwest carries more passengers, but that airline’s low complaint rate shows that size shouldn’t matter. Still, American’s year-over-year score has improved, perhaps with the support of what an airline spokesperson calls “a proactive customer outreach program should something unique occur with a specific flight.”

No. 6: Comair

1.03 complaints per 100,000 passengers

The smallest airline on the list improved one spot, but let’s face it: No. 6 is still pretty bad. The large majority of the service complaints were about flight problems. To make matters worse, Comair had the worst on-time performance of any U.S. airline in 2009.

No. 7: Continental Airlines

1.00 complaints per 100,000 passengers

In the past year, Continental improved enough to move up one spot in the ratings. But be warned: when it combines with United to create the world’s largest airline, the logistics of integration could cause some problems.

No. 8: AirTran

0.97 complaints per 100,000 passengers

AirTran has maintained its dubious No. 8 ranking two years in a row, although it received fewer service complaints in 2009. Flight cancellations and delays were its major problems, about which a DOT official says, “Often low-cost carriers will not rearrange flights on another airline because they don’t have a full-service contract of carriage.”

No. 9: Frontier Airlines

0.92 complaints per 100,000 passengers

In 2008, the sister carrier to Midwest Airlines was one of America’s least-complained-about airlines, according to the DOT. But Frontier stumbled this past year, moving into the most-complained-about category for the first time in three years.

No. 10: JetBlue Airways

0.85 complaints per 100,000 passengers

The most recent J. D. Powers survey awarded JetBlue the highest rating of overall customer satisfaction for low-cost carriers. True, the DOT’s stats don’t back that up, but JetBlue is still one of the country’s 10 least-complained-about airlines.

boom_box

June 5th, 2010, 10:28 AM

^^ Kudos to Southwest....

xxxriainxxx

June 5th, 2010, 05:52 PM

Baguio City flights are back with Sky Pasada (http://goodnewspilipinas.com/?p=11584)
Posted on May 30th, 2010 under Beauty of the Philippines

Operators of the fog-wrapped Loakan Airport here have not seen a commercial plane land for three years now, due to a weather that has become a serious navigational concern for the airline industry.

But all this will change as Sky Pasada will start flying to the summer capital three times a day. With two 19-seater Russian-made LET 410 UVP-E passenger planes, Sky Pasada owned by the WCC Aviation Co., has officially reinstated Baguio in the flight plans for Northern Luzon.

In 2007, Baguio almost lost its only airport when domestic airlines stopped landing here after they expressed concern that the city’s daily afternoon fog was potentially hazardous to routine air navigation.

But the Arroyo administration invested in upgrading Loakan Airport as part of the government’s P100-million Aeronautical Highway of the North project.
Ramon Guico III, president and CEO of WCC Aviation, described Sky Pasada as “a rural airline that will connect the rural destinations all over the country.”
Guico says WCC Aviation intends to make the Baguio route as its Northern Luzon hub because it is strategic to servicing a market in Manila, Cauayan, Tuguegarao, Batanes and Boracay in Aklan.

Sky Pasada’s aircrafts can land in short-field, semi-prepared or unprepared runways, and can take off and land even in the harshest flying conditions, Guico says.

He says Sky Pasada would reroute flights to a WCC Aviation airfield in Binalonan on days when the Loakan Airport is not available.

http://www.skypasada.com/images/fleetpic002.jpg

boom_box

June 5th, 2010, 06:18 PM

^^
OT: Czech made the LET 410 not the Russians...

hakz2007

June 6th, 2010, 07:00 AM

Fly PAL to Sydney for US$ 512
MANILA, June 5 (PNA) --Philippine Airlines (PAL) joins the Philippine Independence celebration fever with a one-day-only seat sale to selected destinations that have historical links to our national and modern-day heroes.

For June 7, the featured destination is Sydney where Manuel L. Quezon was evacuated via submarine when Japanese forces were about to capture Corregidor island.

The US$ 512 roundtrip, economy fare to Sydney is available only for June 7 at all PAL ticket offices, PAL website and accredited travel agents.

The all-in fare is inclusive of surcharges but excludes government taxes and ticketing service fee.

Travel period is from June 15 to Sept. 30. Seats are limited.

Manuel L. Quezon was sworn in for his second term as Commonwealth President on Dec. 30, 1941 in Corregidor. The following month, Quezon was forced to flee Corregidor island when Japanese forces were closing in on Manila. He was evacuated via submarine to Sydney, Australia, and later to the US where he established the Commonwealth government in exile.(PNA)http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=3&sid=&nid=3&rid=279906

hakz2007

June 6th, 2010, 07:02 AM

Fly PAL to Roxas City for P612
MANILA, June 5 (PNA) -- Philippine Airlines (PAL) is joining the 112th Philippine Independence celebration fever this month with a one-day-only seat sale to selected destinations that are linked historically to some of the country's national and modern-day heroes.

For June 6, the featured destination is Roxas City in Capiz, home province of the late President Manuel A. Roxas.

The P612 one-way, economy fare for Manila to Roxas or Roxas to Manila is available only for June 6 at all PAL ticket offices, PAL website and accredited travel agents.

The all-in fare is inclusive of value-added tax (VAT) but excludes government taxes and ticketing service fee.

Travel period is from June 7 to Sept. 30. Seats are limited.

In preparation for the country’s transition from a commonwealth state to an independent republic, Manuel Roxas rallied the country behind two legislative landmarks, the Philippine Rehabilitation Act and Philippine Trade Act. (PNA)http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=6&sid=&nid=6&rid=279833

mwg12a

June 7th, 2010, 08:23 AM

I found this and I wonder if this is really true. I guess it happened in 1973. too early for anybody here to remember or know about it.

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boom_box

June 7th, 2010, 12:00 PM

^^ its true story.. its the Tenerife Airport Disaster

that incident alone created many changes in the aviation industry..
The usage of Ground Radar during low visibility
Proper usage radio phraseology according to ICAO standards...
CRM = Crew Resource Management... hindi pwedeng "ako ang captain ako masusunod" palagi..

Fraulein

June 7th, 2010, 01:45 PM

^^Pati ang paggamit ng English language during conversation.:)

hakz2007

June 8th, 2010, 06:51 AM

Fly PAL to Kalibo for P612
MANILA, June 8 (PNA) -- Philippine Airlines (PAL) is joining the Philippine Independence celebration fever with a one-day-only seat sale to selected destinations that are linked historically to some of the country's national and modern-day heroes.

For today, June 8, the featured destination is Kalibo, home of Alejandro Melchor, Sr., who designed and invented pontoon bridges that aided the mobility of allied forces during World War 2.

The P612 one-way, economy fare for Manila to Kalibo or Kalibo to Manila is available only Tuesday at all PAL ticket offices, PAL website and accredited travel agents. The all-in fare is inclusive of VAT but excludes government taxes and ticketing service fee.

Travel period is from June 9 to September 30. Seats are limited.

The Engineering building of the University of the Philippines is named in his honor.http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=6&sid=&nid=6&rid=280263

hakz2007

June 8th, 2010, 06:53 AM

Any local Filipino Diecast Aircraft Collectors here?

You can Join us in our July 2010 Meet-up.

Our July 2010 Activities includes.
1. Spotting.
2. PAF Museum Tour.
3. LTP Facility Tour.

register now!
http://fildac.hostoi.com/

thanks for the space :)

I've been gone to PAF Museum in Villamor Air Base already :)

It's worth visiting the said museum..:cheers:

hakz2007

June 8th, 2010, 06:54 AM

Welcome to Thread 25!

Keep posting dudes :cheers:

Link to Thread 24. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=160060&page=931)

hakz2007

June 8th, 2010, 06:55 AM

New Thread here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=58257355#post58257355) :okay:

b_two

June 8th, 2010, 08:23 AM

any developments sa paglipat ng cx sa naia t3?

rickie

June 8th, 2010, 11:32 AM

i heard several advisers of in coming pres aquino that they really plan to move the airport out of pasay...

hopefully, this and other infra projects will be a priority...

Blueleo

June 8th, 2010, 02:06 PM

Cebu Pacific now RP’s largest airline in terms of passenger flown in Q1
By EMMIE V. ABADILLA
June 8, 2010, 4:19pm

Cebu Pacific (CEB) can now claim to be the Philippines largest airline by total number of passengers flown on domestic and international routes, based on Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) data.

CEB flew 2,448,990 domestic and international passengers from January to March this year, almost 110,000 more than Philippine Airlines system-wide figures of 2,339,788, according to the CAB.

CEB claimed the No. 1 position in the domestic market last year when it captured 50% of the domestic market share. It remains the number one carrier in 2010, with 51% market share. It started operations only in 1996.

“We expect to grow even more in the coming years as we take delivery of more brand-new planes which we will use to expand our capacity, increase frequencies, and fly to more local and foreign destinations,” announced CEB VP for Marketing and Distribution Candice Iyog.

“Our consistent focus and commitment to offering the lowest fares for value service continue to pay off,” she added.

CEB is buying 22 more 180-seat Airbus A320 aircraft for delivery starting in October this year till 2014, which by then would make the airline’s Airbus fleet the largest in the country as well.

The airline currently operates the youngest aircraft fleet in the country, composed of 21 Airbus and 8 ATR 72-500 aircraft.

“Our expansion will drive our costs lower, benefiting the flying public with CEB’s trademark low fares,” according to the VP.

Last year, CEB flew 8.8 million domestic and international passengers, with a 31% year-on-year growth. This year, it expects the number to rise to 10 million. By 2013, CEB expects to carry a total of 15 million passengers, exceeding the capacity of the NAIA Terminal 3, its home base.

From the last quarter of 2010 onwards, CEB expects to strengthen its network of 33 domestic and 15 international destinations with more routes and increased frequencies. It just recently announced its newest Brunei route, slated to start this August 21.

“We have driven down the cost of flying to allow more people to fly,” Iyog pointed out. “In every new destination we fly to, we always offer the lowest fares, forcing other airlines to match our travel product. With every new route, we promote travel, trade and tourism at the same time.”

mucho

June 8th, 2010, 03:36 PM

any developments sa paglipat ng cx sa naia t3?

mukhang walang balita, sana sisilip mga spy natin sa T3 if CX is setting up their counters already.

mwg12a

June 8th, 2010, 03:47 PM

sfo way sipyat

June 8th, 2010, 04:12 PM

Oh wow, it sounded like Cebu Pacific would definitely won't leave T3 with that figures they are showing. Hopefully atleast 4 other asian airlines would still be able to move there just so it decongest T1. I guess it's just right to remodel T1's interior to get that updated look.

Cebu Pacific is serving the Filipino Filipino well aside from bringing in a considerable number of regional tourists. Kung hindi inumpisahan ng Cebu Pacific ang pag gamit ng terminal na iyan tuluyan na iyang nabulok dapat lang priority ang Cebu pacific at at iba pang domestic carriers lalo na mapupuno na iyon by next year.

sfo way sipyat

June 8th, 2010, 04:20 PM

Oh wow, it sounded like Cebu Pacific would definitely won't leave T3 with that figures they are showing. Hopefully atleast 4 other asian airlines would still be able to move there just so it decongest T1. I guess it's just right to remodel T1's interior to get that updated look.

Cebu Pacific is serving the filipino people well at naghakot ng maraming turista.Dapat lang bigyan ng priuority sa terminal na iyan lalo na its the biggest domestic airline.Kung fully uttilized iyong terminal ng mga domestic carriers natin hindi na kailangan lilipat pa yong mga foreign airlines.

Sky Harbor

June 8th, 2010, 04:25 PM

^^ NAIA-3 however is not designed to handle an LCC operation, nor is it designed for the whims of a single airline. It is meant to be THE international terminal which would give tourists a very different impression of the country from what NAIA-1 is currently giving them.

kyril

June 8th, 2010, 04:28 PM

Wow this is not surprising but seriously Emirates is having too much A380's now:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/awx/2010/06/08/awx_06_08_2010_p0-232591.xml&headline=Emirates%20To%20Order%2032%20More%20A380s

Emirates To Order 32 More A380s

Emirates will announce an order for 32 additional Airbus A380s at the ILA Berlin Air Show, Aviation Week has learned. The order will be officially signed during a visit of Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel to the show in front of a newly delivered Emirates A380. The aircraft is the largest A380 order ever. Its list price is an estimated $11.5 billion. Emirates now has 90 A380s on firm order of which 10 have been delivered.

The A380 backlog increases from 202 to 234 following the order. Dubai International Airport is building another large concourse to accommodate the aircraft. Space constraints at Emirates’ main hub were a key issue that Emirates wanted to resolve before it would order more of the aircraft. The airline has publicly stated it would look at more A380s as it updates its fleet plans this year and has previously talked about on order for around 20 more.

Dreamtofly

June 8th, 2010, 07:03 PM

Hey guys! is there any update on the audit of EU last May?

Garuda is back to europe hope PAL will follow soon.

boom_box

June 8th, 2010, 07:09 PM

mwg12a

June 8th, 2010, 10:42 PM

Cebu Pacific is serving the filipino people well at naghakot ng maraming turista.Dapat lang bigyan ng priuority sa terminal na iyan lalo na its the biggest domestic airline.Kung fully uttilized iyong terminal ng mga domestic carriers natin hindi na kailangan lilipat pa yong mga foreign airlines.

The problem is, NAIA T1 has reached is maximum capacity, that's the whole idea why T3 was conceived and was built.

On that note, Cebu Pacific isn't necessarily pulling all the tourist into the country. Most of Cebu pacific bulk are the domestic travelers when they made flying more affordable to an average working filipinos. The Philippine tourism industry isn't reaching the point yet where it would help lift the economy since OFWs are still the biggest dollar earners for the country. The rest is what SKY_Harbor mentioned above already.

ianers_ianized

June 9th, 2010, 02:37 AM

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hikouki

June 9th, 2010, 02:42 AM

kiretoce

June 9th, 2010, 04:11 AM

I wonder why such airlines of Virgin Atlantic, Turkish Airlines and Lufthansa prefer their Airbus A340/A330 fleets to have a maintenance at Lufthansa Technik Philippines (LTP)..

Despite Lufthansa Technik has facilities in Europe like FRA, MUC, BUD, MLH, MXP, BRU...

Lufthansa Technik has three Asian maintenance bases/service centers; Manila, Shenzhen, and Bangalore. Each site have their own specialites, Manila is a "center of excellence" for A330/A340 overhauls.

Virgin Atlantic Airways (VS), Turkish Airlines (TK), and Lufthansa German Airlines (LH) have routes to East/Southeast Asia. So whenever their aircraft is scheduled for a maintenance overhaul, they just simply fly to the nearest Lufthansa Technik facility to have their MRO checks (A, B, C, and D), rather than flying back to Europe to have them done.

VS flies to:

PVG
HKG
NRT

TK flies to:

PEK
PVG
HKG
KIX
NRT
ICN

LH flies to:

PEK
CAN
NKG
PVG
HKG
NGO
KIX
NRT
PUS
ICN

kiretoce

June 9th, 2010, 04:30 AM

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/Planespotting/ABrandNewDay004.jpg

So, mainline JL has resumed flying to MNL? Was JO phased out? :dunno:

lightning099

June 9th, 2010, 04:37 AM

[Planespotting time in NAIA!

Which part of NAIA complex do you 'planespot'?

Sky Harbor

June 9th, 2010, 04:41 AM

So, mainline JL has resumed flying to MNL? Was JO phased out? :dunno:

All JO planes are painted in JL colors.

betro

June 9th, 2010, 07:21 AM

Cebu Pacific now RP’s top airline
By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:09:00 06/08/2010

Filed Under: business, Air Transport
Most Read
CEBU PACIFIC OF THE Gokongwei family has dislodged Lucio Tan’s Philippine Airlines (PAL) as the country’s top carrier in terms of passengers flown at the end of the first quarter this year.

Based on government data released last month, Cebu Pacific said it flew exactly 2,488,990 domestic and international passengers combined from January to March this year. This was almost 110,000 more than PAL’s system-wide figure of 2,339,788 during the same period

Cebu Pacific’s lead came mostly from its domestic segment, which grew 22 percent to 1.97 million passengers over the same period last year. Its rival, flag carrier PAL, meanwhile posted a 7.6-percent year-on-year decline to 1.4 million passengers.

The budget carrier also closed in on its rival with a 36-percent improvement in international passenger volume, totaling 492,114. For its part, PAL flew more passengers at 924,144, but this grew at a slower pace of 9.6 percent year-on-year.

“Our consistent focus and commitment to offering the lowest fares for value service continue to pay off. We expect to grow even more in the coming years as we take delivery of more brand-new planes, which we will use to expand our capacity, increase frequencies, and fly to more local and foreign destinations,” Cebu Pacific vice president for marketing and distribution Candice Iyog said in a statement.

The shift mirrors the fortunes of both airlines in recent years. Today, PAL continues to struggle with factors beyond its control—particularly, a ban on local airlines from flying to Europe, and a restriction from expanding operations in the United States, which is PAL’s most lucrative market.

Cebu Pacific, meanwhile, is in the process of spending about $1.4 billion to double the size of its fleet to prepare for growing demand in the next five years. The company is also expected to go public this year.

Narnian_King

June 9th, 2010, 07:29 AM

Blueleo

June 9th, 2010, 01:42 PM

NAIA Terminals 1, 2 and 3 now ISO 9001:2008-Certified
June 9, 2010, 5:15pm

“We are almost there and one more to go. Today’s awarding is just a step away from completing our dream of having all NAIA Terminals ISO certified. Next in line is Manila Domestic Airport,” said Manila International Airport Authority General Manager Melvin Matibag.

“I am extremely happy with this achievement and I thank all those who have actively pursued this endeavor and really worked hard for it. This victory is everyone’s victory, especially of the public that we serve,” Matibag further added.

All government agencies involved in the departure and arrival processes at NAIA are members of the Quality Management System and are designated as Quality Management Representatives (QMRs).

Among the 13 agencies involved are the Bureau of Immigration and the Bureau of Customs.

“The certification process fostered a culture of work excellence among all agencies, leveled expectations and promoted the quest for continuing improvement,” GM Matibag said.

The ISO Certification was achieved through the Quality Management System (QMS) put in place to ensure quality compliance to the established mandatory procedures in the manual. It aspires for passenger confidence with the predictability of the processes in the procedures aimed for passenger convenience.

“The ISO Certification is a parallel effort to our service branding effort – NAIA ‘We go the extra smile’ – to institute a more structured approach towards process and quality improvements.” GM Matibag added.

A Memorandum Circular covering the policies and procedures for non-conformities will be issued to maintain the levels set by ISO 9001:2008 as stated in Executive Order No. 605, institutionalizing the structure, mechanisms and standards to implement the Government Quality Management Program (GQMP).

To date, NAIA Terminal 2 which houses all the international and domestic flights of Philippine Airlines is enjoying an average of 22,750 passengers and 55 flights a day for both domestic and international destinations. Terminal 3, on the other hand, has recorded an average of 31,000 passengers and an aggregate 38 flights daily. NAIA T3 caters to all Cebu Pacific domestic and international flights and AirPhil Express.

Furthermore, MIAA is now working towards the certification of the Old Manila Domestic Terminal.

“Hopefully within the year, the Old Domestic will also be certified”, says GM Matibag.

Blueleo

June 9th, 2010, 02:02 PM

CAAP okays 2-way Caticlan airport landing
By Rudy Santos (The Philippine Star) Updated June 09, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines has lifted the one-way rule at the Godofredo P. Ramos airport (Caticlan), allowing Cebu Pacific flights to land and take off from either end of the runway and minimizing operational flight diversions to Kalibo.

CEB uses the ATR-72 turbo-prop, 72-seater aircraft to Caticlan. Seair utilizes the smaller Dornier two-seater plane with 20-passenger capacity, while Airphil Express, sister company of Philippine Airlines, flies the Bombardier aircraft.

“The resumption of the two-way rule should make flying to Boracay more convenient for our passengers. However flights may still be diverted to Kalibo if the runway is wet,” said Candice Iyog, CEB vice president.

CAAP Director General Alfonso Cusi said that a wet runway due to rain is considered an added hazard because of the danger of hydro-planing, or skidding by landing aircraft.

Prior to the approval, the one-way rule limited landing from the sea and toward the hill at Caticlan airport, which resulted in flights being diverted to Kalibo when the wind is in the same direction as the approaching aircraft, a condition called tailwind.

The two-way rule allows an approach from the other end of the runway.

“We are delighted that as a result of our re-certification, Caap has authorized CEB to take-off and land in both directions for Caticlan,” Iyog said. She praised Cusi and his certification team as their decision makes it easier and more convenient for the flying public to fly to Boracay.

“This decision will also help generate business and employment growth in the region,” Iyog said.

CEB operates 13 daily flights to Caticlan from Manila and 11 times weekly from Cebu using its ATR 72-500 aircraft.

Caticlan Airport records the highest number of landing and takeoff among secondary airports in the country, sometimes reaching a peak of 130 a day, or 65 landings and 65 takeoffs, according to Director Willy Borja, the chief of the Air Traffic Services Division of the Caap.

Rall

June 9th, 2010, 03:01 PM

Hinding-hindi kami sasakay sa cebu pacific. :nuts: :lol:

same here:lol::lol::lol:

Kintoy

June 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM

not sure if posted here already...

Manila, from #56 > #51

Here's the 100 busiest airports in terms of the number of passengers handled in 2009. The passenger figure is in millions. The biggest improvement in position is Chengdu which rocketed and incredible 30 places up the rankings! Others that moved up 5 places or more are Dubai, Guangzhou, Jakarta, Sydney, Shanghai (PVG), Delhi, Shanghai (SHA), Shenzhen, Manila, Sao Paulo (GRU), Kunming, Brisbane, Washington (DCA), Chicago (MDW), Doha, Seoul (GMP), Xi'an, Hangzhou, Bogota, Chongqing and Jeju. Dropping out of the top 100 are Osaka (KIX), Lisbon, Portland, St Louis, Helsinki and Cincinnati. The figures for Doha and Jeddah are estimates based on previous years figures and growth.

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Source ACI and various others.

cebuboi

June 9th, 2010, 04:15 PM

same here:lol::lol::lol:

hala wag kang ganyan paano kung tuluyang mawala ang pal at ceb pac na lang ang matira paano yan maglalakad/lilipad ka na lang....ha ha ha....:bash::bash::bash:

Rall

June 9th, 2010, 07:09 PM

hala wag kang ganyan paano kung tuluyang mawala ang pal at ceb pac na lang ang matira paano yan maglalakad/lilipad ka na lang....ha ha ha....:bash::bash::bash:

kung walang ibang choice... pwede pa.... but as of now, their services sucks - big time :nuts:

ianers_ianized

June 9th, 2010, 07:44 PM

Which part of NAIA complex do you 'planespot'?

If not at the gates, mostly at Hariraya Restaurant, 4th floor, there's a wide viewing deck of the runway in the smoking area...

Blackraven

June 9th, 2010, 07:48 PM

IMHO, yung main (or at least isa sa mga pangunahing) reason ay dahil sa T3...

Kasi seriously, if CP still stayed in old Domestic airport, then I wouldn't even give a shit about them.

RP top airline? Well okay......pero in terms of sales lang iyan. Pag sa amenities, hindi sila makalapit sa PAL. PAL has TVs in every seat (or at least in a lot of their planes).......while Cebu Pacific has NONE!!!!

Do you still have to pay for food sa Cebu Pacific? And yeah, hanggang 'games' lang yung 'in-flight entertainment' nila.....And yikes, service seems to be going downhill kung totoo ito. Tsk tsk tsk

Seriously, with Cathay Pacific entering T3 within the year, mawawala ang exclusivity nila sa T3. So yun, with that said, I'm taking CX (followed by PAL) and other airlines. Heck, baka for Domestic flights, mas magugustuhan ko na lumipad with PAL next time. Hehehe :D

Two centavos....:)

Sky Harbor

June 9th, 2010, 07:59 PM

^^ There's supposed to be a big switch when push comes to shove: 5J would be evicted from NAIA-3 to be replaced by PR and all international airlines, while it, Z2, DG and 2P would languish in NAIA-2.

Only God knows when CX will move to NAIA-3. I hope though other daring airlines will take suit.

mwg12a

June 9th, 2010, 08:15 PM

@Blackraven. Let's not compare Cebu Pacific with PAL. This is where alot of filipinos do not understand. That saying "don't compare apple from an orange" like what has been mentioned here before is very much applicable in this situation. PAL, is a full service airlines while Cebu Pacific is a Low Cost airlines, no frills. You can compare Cebu Pacific with AirPhil Express.com and perhaps Zest airways. They are both an LCC. Why do we expect heaven and earth on LCC when in it's fine print, all necessary informations are all stated there?

Only God knows when CX will move to NAIA-3. I hope though other daring airlines will take suit.

Wishful thinking. DELTA!!!

Okay. my feet is grounded again.

Singapore, CX, Thai and Mas would do the trick in decongesting T1

lancetrn

June 10th, 2010, 02:00 AM

MVP, Ang join forces in Clark project

Titans offer to build new airport terminal
By Daxim Lucas
Philippine Daily Inquirer

TWO of the country’s biggest corporate titans – rivals in almost every field they do business in – have agreed to join forces to build the Philippines’ next international aviation hub some 70 kilometers north of Metro Manila.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer has learned that Metro Pacific Investments Corp. chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan and San Miguel Corp. president Ramon S. Ang have approved a plan that calls for both conglomerates to “jointly develop” a multibillion-peso passenger terminal for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark, Pampanga.

The deal will fast-track the development of DMIA, which has come in fits and starts, ever since it was designated by the government as the replacement for the aging and overused Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Pasay City.

More importantly, however, it could also signal a dramatic shift in the local corporate scene, which has seen cutthroat competition in recent years between Ang and Pangilinan that sometimes resulted in overpriced acquisitions in their winner-take-all battle.

An Inquirer source familiar with the deal said that Ang and Pangilinan have “discussed” the broad details of the issue and “have come to an agreement” on how to proceed with their joint proposal to the government.

“It will be a 50-50 joint venture,” the source said. “It’s a win-win situation for both.”

At least four ranking officials of the Metro Pacific and San Miguel groups have confirmed the “meeting of the minds” between their principals.

Government and private sector estimates for the cost of a modern international airport terminal in DMIA made in recent years have ranged from a low of $65 million to a high of $200 million.

“Supposing the terminal will cost $150 million [or about P7 billion at prevailing exchange rates], both parties would split that, then fund their respective portions with a combination of equity and debt,” another official said. “It will be very affordable for both sides this way.”

Working together, both groups would have to present a bid to Clark International Airport Corp. that is superior to those of other interested parties, although a combined effort from both businessmen is seen as a shoo-in for the deal, given that most rival proposals come from foreign groups. The investment is particularly seen as a sentimental one for Pangilinan whose hometown, Apalit, is just a few kilometers south of Clark.

Initial proposals for the passenger terminal call for it to be able to accommodate up to 10 million passengers a year – a level of capacity that would not require a major upgrade for at least 15 years. The current terminal at DMIA can accommodate only up to 2 million passengers annually, at most.
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20100609-274778/MVP-Ang-join-forces-in-Clark-project

hikouki

June 10th, 2010, 02:00 AM

Wishful thinking. DELTA!!!

Okay. my feet is grounded again.

Singapore, CX, Thai and Mas would do the trick in decongesting T1

Anu-ano nga ba yung top three international airlines out of MNL? Isn't CX on top of the list, followed by SQ, than TG? Someone posted a list some time ago.

These three carriers also contribute a LOT to the congestion during the noontime-early afternoon "primetime" hours at T1.

hikouki

June 10th, 2010, 02:03 AM

mwg12a

June 10th, 2010, 02:40 AM

Whoa! Great news!

How big is a "10 million passenger capacity"? I mean in terms of contact gates, for example how many would it typically have?

Size of T2, actually it's between the size of T1 and T2.

Narnian_King

June 10th, 2010, 02:46 AM

kung walang ibang choice... pwede pa.... but as of now, their services sucks - big time :nuts:

HAHAHA. CEBUPAC is The worst airline in the world when it comes to accomodating travelers on a tight schedule :nuts:

rickie

June 10th, 2010, 03:39 AM

Whoa! Great news!

How big is a "10 million passenger capacity"? I mean in terms of contact gates, for example how many would it typically have?

i hope they build something beautiful, useful and expandable. and include the easy access to it with roads and rail.

i wouldn't mind spending more in making it aesthetically pleasing. we should have something that can stand against other ASEAN airports.

one question is, what happens to T3? tapon na lang?:nuts:

RonnieR

June 10th, 2010, 05:32 AM

mucho

June 10th, 2010, 11:12 AM

Dreamtofly

June 10th, 2010, 01:29 PM

i hope they build something beautiful, useful and expandable. and include the easy access to it with roads and rail.

i wouldn't mind spending more in making it aesthetically pleasing. we should have something that can stand against other ASEAN airports.

one question is, what happens to T3? tapon na lang?:nuts:

Bilib talaga ako kay MVP. tama yan kasi kailangan talaga ng Pinas ang proper infra.

Gawin na alng yan Mall ang T3 hahahahahah

Kailangan natin ng mga tao na may vision sa pinas kagay ni MVP

Kintoy

June 10th, 2010, 02:46 PM

$65 million for a terminal? ano kaya itsura nun, parang school building na naman?
:bash:

Kintoy

June 10th, 2010, 02:49 PM

@Blackraven. Let's not compare Cebu Pacific with PAL. This is where alot of filipinos do not understand. That saying "don't compare apple from an orange" like what has been mentioned here before is very much applicable in this situation. PAL, is a full service airlines while Cebu Pacific is a Low Cost airlines, no frills. You can compare Cebu Pacific with AirPhil Express.com and perhaps Zest airways. They are both an LCC. Why do we expect heaven and earth on LCC when in it's fine print, all necessary informations are all stated there?

Yes I agree. feeling kasi ng ibang tao nasa business class pa din sila habang sumasakay sa Cebu Pac.

Kaya nga kaya nilang mag-piso fare kasi no frills. kung gusto mo na pinagkukumot ka pa ng stewardess, mag mabuhay class ka, wag sa LCC sumakay hehe

mucho

June 10th, 2010, 04:51 PM

US$ 65M? anong klaseng international terminal na naman yun? :ohno:

mambo

June 10th, 2010, 06:53 PM

US$ 65M? anong klaseng international terminal na naman yun? :ohno:

maybe to give you an idea t2 was constructed for 150 Million US$:)

absinthe_888

June 10th, 2010, 08:12 PM

Jeepney of the sky (http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8248/natphoto1.jpg)
(The Philippine Star) Updated June 11, 2010 12:00 AM

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A maintenance worker prepares the 19-seater ‘Skypasada’ plane which will fly from Baguio to major destinations in northern Luzon such as Tuguegarao in Cagayan, Cauayan in Isabela and Basco in Batanes. The so-called ‘jeepney of the sky’ is reportedly safe for short-takeoff and short-landing airstrips. Andy Zapata Jr.

Kintoy

June 10th, 2010, 10:47 PM

kyril

June 11th, 2010, 12:44 AM

http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26344:pal-not-for-sale-says-lucio-tan&catid=23:topnews&Itemid=58

PAL not for sale, says Lucio Tan

TYCOON Lucio Tan said on Thursday he is not selling Philippine Airlines Inc. (PAL) amid concerns over the flag carrier’s ability to pay off about $1 billion in debt.

“[PAL] is not for sale,” said Tan, chairman of PAL, in response to questions from the media. The businessman, who also made a name for himself in the beverage and tobacco sectors, did not give additional details.

PAL has been facing losses for the past three fiscal years on the back of low passenger volume and growing expenses following the global financial crisis. Losses over the last two fiscal years amounted to about $350 million, or P15 billion.

Adding to its woes is the stiff competition from budget carrier Cebu Pacific, led by the Gokongwei family, which recently said it flew 2.35 million passengers in the three months to March. PAL flew 2.34 million.

The airline was supposed to lay off 3,000 workers effective June but the labor department directed PAL to suspend this until the labor dispute with the PAL Employees Association is resolved.

This, as PAL was supposed to implement the next phase of its restructuring program, starting with the spinoff of its inflight catering services; airport services, including ground handling, cargo terminal/cargo handling and ramp handling; and call-center reservations at the close of business hours on May 31.

In an earlier interview, PAL president Jaime Bautista said the airline needs to pursue the restructuring plan due to several factors beyond the airline’s control.

Others factors include the liberalization of the commercial aviation industry to the detriment of local players like PAL, such as the recent global financial crisis that led to a slowdown in passenger traffic. Record-high oil prices in 2008-09 also caused a spike in aviation fuel prices, which account for nearly half of PAL’s operating expenses.

A downgrade of the Philippine aviation sector to Category II by the United States, preventing PAL from using brand-new long-range aircraft or increasing flights to the US; and the subsequent blacklisting of Philippine carriers by the European Union, are also factors.

(M. Camus, L. Lectura)

Sky Harbor

June 11th, 2010, 05:16 AM

Vietnam is spending $8billion for their new airport, and people here are rejoicing because somebody offered to spend $65 million for a new terminal. is the government too quick to bite that offer? ano na naman kaya ang kapalit? decades-long concession, in return for $65 million?

wow. what about that, huh?

It's only Phase I of the development of CRK. I'm banking on a megaproject for Phases II and III.

sandwindstars

June 11th, 2010, 05:57 AM

sandwindstars

June 11th, 2010, 06:02 AM

not sure if posted here already...

Manila, from #56 > #51

Based on the current growth rate of NAIA, it will be hitting it's maximum capacity of 32 m pax in about 3 years.

pi_malejana

June 11th, 2010, 06:10 AM

$65 million for a terminal? ano kaya itsura nun, parang school building na naman?
:bash:

here's the statement from the article...

MVP, Ang join forces in Clark project

Titans offer to build new airport terminal
By Daxim Lucas
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Government and private sector estimates for the cost of a modern international airport terminal in DMIA made in recent years have ranged from a low of $65 million to a high of $200 million.

“Supposing the terminal will cost $150 million [or about P7 billion at prevailing exchange rates], both parties would split that, then fund their respective portions with a combination of equity and debt,” another official said. “It will be very affordable for both sides this way.”

http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20100609-274778/MVP-Ang-join-forces-in-Clark-project

Sky Harbor

June 11th, 2010, 06:23 AM

^^ That would be roughly around the same cost as ILO (P8.8 billion, or around $201 million at the time).

Anyway, speaking of terminals, the new terminal building at KLO will open on June 15! :okay:

New Kalibo airport terminal to open (http://www.thenewstoday.info/2010/06/10/new.kalibo.airport.terminal.to.open.html)

KALIBO, Aklan – Kalibo International Airport is opening a new terminal this June.

The new terminal, set to begin operating on June 15, is funded by the national government for P80-million.

With its open, the newly built airport terminal will be able to handle the influx of more than 600,000 travelers yearly.

Aklan Governor Carlito Marquez said he discussed the opening of the Kalibo airport terminal with Aklan Rep. Florencio Miraflores and former Congressman Allen S. Quimpo last week.

The construction of the new terminal building began two years ago by International Builders Corporation. The old terminal building used by more than five airlines has become extremely overcrowded and congested.

The airport is classified as international airport with 646,075 passengers in 2009, data of the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) showed. CAAP headed by Kalibo airport manager Engr. Percy Malonesio manages the overall security and safety of the airport.

As of last year, there over 4,000 flights operated by airlines in local and regional destinations across Asia.

KIA is one of the airports in the province, serving the tourists of Boracay, the other strategically located in Caticlan, Malay, Aklan. (Boy Ryan B. Zabal)

ianers_ianized

June 11th, 2010, 07:28 AM

^^ would that airport will have jetways?

xzibit31

June 11th, 2010, 07:32 AM

^^ would that airport will have jetways?

none..

its the traditional walk-on-the-tarmac-and-bake-in-the-sun practice..:lol:

Blueleo

June 11th, 2010, 08:18 AM

Arroyo cousin’s airline launches Baguio, Batanes flights
NIKKA CORSINO, GMANews.TV
06/10/2010 | 03:34 PM

A local airline, owned by the cousin of outgoing President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, said Thursday it launched regular but pricier flights to two areas not served by most commercial flights in the country.

World Citi Colleges (WCC) Aviation Company, using its Sky Pasada brand, would be offering regular flights to Baguio City in Benguet and Basco in Batanes, areas not regularly served by other airliners partly due to extreme weather conditions.

“Baguio’s weather conditions are not always favorable. Sometimes they are not conducive for regular flights and much also depends on the capability of the aircraft," Aviation Safety Inspector Christopher Brillantes of the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) told GMANews.TV Thursday.

Ramon Guico III, president of WCC Aviation, is the mayor-elect of Binalonan town in Pangasinan, whose former mayor was his father, Ramon Guico Jr., who ran but lost in the May 10 senatorial race.

The elder Guico and President Arroyo are cousins, and Binalonan is the hometown of Arroyo’s mother, Evangeline Macapagal.

In February, the President inaugurated the Aeronautical Highway of the North with Binalonan as its hub.

The Civil Aviation Authority, however, said that WCC Aviation still needs to undergo an annual safety assessment audit to determine the airliner’s level of compliance with aviation safety standards.

Brillantes, the aviation security inspector, said the company has had “reliable" operations in past years.

The Sky Pasada is using the 19-seater LET 410 Turbolet, manufactured by Let Kunovice of the Czech Republic, that WCC Aviation said is capable of operating under extreme climate conditions.

WCC Aviation is charging between P1,503 and P3,391 for a one-way ticket to Baguio from Manila, and P3,006 to P6,782 for a round-trip.

The 30-minute flight to Baguio would benefit Baguio residents and tourists, who had to take six-hour bus rides to the city, Manila International Airport Authority General Manager Melvin Matibag said.

Aside from Baguio and Basco, the company also operates in Caticlan (Aklan), Laoag (Ilocos Norte), Tuguegarao (Cagayan); and Caoayan, Palanan, and Maconacon (Isabela). —VS, GMANews.TV

in_a_rush

June 11th, 2010, 08:35 AM

Vietnam is spending $8billion for their new airport, and people here are rejoicing because somebody offered to spend $65 million for a new terminal. is the government too quick to bite that offer? ano na naman kaya ang kapalit? decades-long concession, in return for $65 million?

wow. what about that, huh?

there is no need to spend 8 billion dollars on a clark terminal since there is not enough demand yet. the way i see it.. magiging installment ang pagtatayo ng airport na to. but hey, 65-200 million is a good start na. aabot din yan ng $8 billion. hulugan nga lang! LOL

Master_Pogi

June 11th, 2010, 09:09 AM

I think the government should make DMIA our main airport coz Manila is congested already for an international airport to operate. Kaya kung gagawa sila ng airport sa Clark gandahan ang airport to the nth power maglagay sila ng bullet train to manila since ang SMC ay may planong mag-invest din para sa bullet train project. Pero imposible mangyari na maging main airport natin ang DMIA dahil kay ABnoy syempre sa Tatay niya nakapangalan ang NAIA.

Kintoy

June 11th, 2010, 10:05 AM

It's only Phase I of the development of CRK. I'm banking on a megaproject for Phases II and III.

magiging parang MRT na naman yan, yung halatang tinipid, tapos we'll be stuck with it forever at hassle na naman sa mga pasahero kung hindi na makakaya yung volume.

Kintoy

June 11th, 2010, 10:09 AM

we'll have another "world-class" airport, worth $65 million, tapos ang sasakyan papunta dun ay ang PNR Northrail na 65 kilometers/hr ang takbo. Ayus!

:banana:

Dreamtofly

June 11th, 2010, 10:27 AM

Well, it is still too early to speculate. We don't know yet if the $65 million to $200 million us dollar development for Clark is just for the terminal or for the whole facility. We need to consider as well that if private comp. will build and operate the facility there would be a big dif. from the government run facility.

$8 billion budget of Vietnam is for the entire new facility which they built new runways, new access road, new terminal which handle around 50 million or more not sure about the pax, new railway system and whole lot more, so it a common sense that it would be costly.

MVP and San Meg plan is just for 10 million pax.

So before you bussss and mag tatalak isipin muna natin kung ano yung ating pinag tatalak.

We should be grateful that their some businessman with a bold vision for the infra of the country.
Kung baga pang pagana lang yan baka mamamaya marami pang mga investor ang mag bid. That is only a solicited proposal

Kintoy

June 11th, 2010, 10:36 AM

Yes, like the MRT, it will be very successful. I trust those businessmen will scrimp and do whatever it takes it turn a profit. ang hirap pa naman bawiin ang $65 million.

at $65 million, it will have a budget about 1/10 that of the NAIA 3. with less amount of money, they probably wont have anything to spend on world-class things, like potted plants :cheers:

the glimpser

June 11th, 2010, 02:43 PM

Cebu Pac flies to Beijing
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20100611-275089/Cebu-Pac-flies-to-Beijing

By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 19:24:00 06/11/2010

BUDGET CARRIER CEBU PACIFIC HAS announced plans to fly to Beijing from Manila this September, adding to the company’s growing list of international routes within the region.

In a statement, the Gokongwei family’s airline named the Chinese capital as its 16th international destination. The company will fly to Bejing thrice weekly, starting the first week of September.

The flights are scheduled to leave Manila at 7:35 p.m., arriving in Beijing at 12:05 a.m. The return flights depart Beijing at 1:00 a.m. and arrive in Manila at 5:30 a.m.

With this new destination comes a P1,999 ‘Go Lite’ seat sale from Manila to Beijing and vice versa. This is for sale from June 12 to 15, 2010, for travel from Sept. 5 to Oct. 31, 2010.

“We are excited to bring Beijing closer to every Juan, especially with our trademark low fares and convenient flight connections. Aside from Beijing, we also fly to Shanghai and Guangzhou in China, fully promoting trade and tourism between the two countries,” Cebu Pacific vice president for marketing and distribution Candice Iyog said.

“Those who wish to see Beijing’s many historical attractions can avail themselves of this seat sale. The P1,999 seat sale fare is 60 percent lower than the lowest year-round fare of P4,999,” she added.

Kintoy

June 11th, 2010, 03:16 PM

got this email from Delta

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/6-11-20109-11-01PM.png

Sky Harbor

June 11th, 2010, 05:53 PM

magiging parang MRT na naman yan, yung halatang tinipid, tapos we'll be stuck with it forever at hassle na naman sa mga pasahero kung hindi na makakaya yung volume.

we'll have another "world-class" airport, worth $65 million, tapos ang sasakyan papunta dun ay ang PNR Northrail na 65 kilometers/hr ang takbo. Ayus!

:banana:

Never have I seen such cynicism towards such an important project. :ohno:

But I learn to not lose hope. Well, that is, if Noynoy does not screw up.

absinthe_888

June 11th, 2010, 06:40 PM

Cebu Pacific to start flights to Beijing Sept 5 (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=583397&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes (The Philippine Star) Updated June 12, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Gokongwei-owned Cebu Pacific (CEB) will start flights to Beijing on Sept. 5 with a P1,999 ‘Go Lite’ seat sale from June 12 -15 to promote the new route, valid for travel from Sept. 5 to Oct. 31, 2010.

CEB will operate thrice-weekly services from Manila to Beijing using its fleet of Airbus aircraft. Flights are scheduled to leave Manila at 7:35 p.m., arriving in Beijing at 12:05 a.m. Return flights depart Beijing at 1am and arrive in Manila at 5:30 a.m.

Beijing is CEB’s 16th international destination and is part of the airline’s planned international expansion.

For the sale period, passengers can also avail of P1,999 ‘Go Lite’ seats from Manila and Cebu to Singapore and from Manila to Jakarta, for travel from Aug. 1 to Oct. 31, 2010.

Locally, P999 ‘Go Lite’ seats are up for grabs for those going to Boracay (Caticlan) from Manila and Cebu, while P699 ‘Go Lite’ seats are available for those going to Kalibo and Roxas from Manila. These are for travel from July 1 to Aug. 31, 2010.

mwg12a

June 11th, 2010, 11:02 PM

got this email from Delta

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/6-11-20109-11-01PM.png

yeah I got this one also in mail. Its good though, right?

the_villager

June 12th, 2010, 09:10 AM

guys, where i could find the percentage of passenger load of Airphil for Surigao-Manila-Surigao route. I'm just curious coz cebupac will be serving the same route starting June 17, 2010. thnkx in advance.

Sky Harbor

June 12th, 2010, 06:10 PM

Can someone verify this post from A.Net?

I'm hearing from an "ordinary passenger" that a Philippine Airlines departure from Mnl today lost "part of the wing", returned to NAIA, had a "hard landing" and was unable to taxi to a gate to disembark the passengers.
Any real info on this?

Danny19

June 13th, 2010, 08:33 AM

Any updates about the upgrade of philippine airlines by the European Air Office??? Thought they would do a check this May?

Danny19

June 13th, 2010, 08:36 AM

Hope the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines is working very hard on the upgrade!!!!!! It's really important for our tourism industry!!!!!

sfo way sipyat

June 14th, 2010, 08:48 AM

The problem is, NAIA T1 has reached is maximum capacity, that's the whole idea why T3 was conceived and was built.

On that note, Cebu Pacific isn't necessarily pulling all the tourist into the country. Most of Cebu pacific bulk are the domestic travelers when they made flying more affordable to an average working filipinos. The Philippine tourism industry isn't reaching the point yet where it would help lift the economy since OFWs are still the biggest dollar earners for the country. The rest is what SKY_Harbor mentioned above already.

Why not develop that cargo area between NAIA T1 and centennial terminal into another world class terminal for the so called premium airlines.We will give preference to our domestic travellers and OFWs that will be going home to their respective provinces .

boom_box

June 14th, 2010, 11:23 AM

^^ ayan oh, world class na naman daw... hehe

Mithril Cloud

June 14th, 2010, 03:03 PM

Not a good idea. The old Nayong Filipino lot is more suitable for a new terminal or terminal expansion space.

Sky Harbor

June 14th, 2010, 03:04 PM

^^ I'd prefer both lots be used and cargo ops be moved to CRK, like the arrangement between YUL and YMX in Montréal.

suri_maw2020

June 14th, 2010, 03:32 PM

Wala lang........naaliw ako sa sulat ng FA na nagpadala

Flight Attendants(FA) letter to the public

This was received from a Los Angeles FA. If you are a
FA, you'll appreciate this. If you're not, maybe
you’ll see the other side. Regardless of where you sit
on an aircraft...be it a jump seat or a passenger seat, it is
extremely well written.

Letter of Apology to the Flying Public
To the Flying Public: We're sorry.
We're sorry we have no pillows.
We're sorry we're out of blankets.
We're sorry the airplane is too cold.
We're sorry the airplane is too hot.
We're sorry the overhead bins are full.
We're sorry we have no closet space for your oversized bag.
We're sorry that’s not the seat you wanted.
We're sorry there’s a restless toddler/overweight/offensive smelling passenger seated next to you.
We're sorry the plane is full and there are no other seats available.
We're sorry you didn't get your upgrade.
We're sorry that guy makes you uncomfortable because he “looks like a > terrorist”.
We're sorry there’s a thunderstorm and we can't take off.
We're sorry we don't know when it will stop.
We're sorry you're crammed into a space so small
that if you were an animal, PETA would protest.
We're sorry a Super 80 has no music or video
entertainment for your 3 hour flight.
We're sorry we ran out of your favorite soda.
We're sorry there are no more sandwiches.
We're sorry that Budweiser costs $6.
We're sorry we don't have diapers for your baby.
We're sorry we don't have milk for same baby.
We're sorry you can't hang out by the cockpit door waiting to use the > bathroom.
We're sorry you can't hang out at the back of the airplane.
We're sorry you have to sit down and fasten your seatbelt.
We're sorry you have to put your seat up for landing.
We're sorry we don't know when we're going to land.
We're sorry we don't know whether your plane to
(substitute any city in the world) will be waiting for you when we > land.
We're sorry we've been diverted because we ran out of gas waiting to > land.
We're sorry for these and so many other things that we
have absolutely no control over but which we are held
accountable for EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Please understand, flight attendants are not the enemy, we
share your space. More than anyone, we want to have a nice,
pleasant travel experience.

There is a reason behind everything we ask you to do. It
may be a FAA directive, security related or it may be a company
procedure.

We don't just make stuff up. We don't spend 8 weeks
at the flight academy learning how to pour a Coke. There are
many things that flight attendants are watching for
constantly on every flight FOR YOUR SAFETY.
It’s not because we're bored or so controlling that
we just enjoy telling people what to do. I, for one, would
like to have one flight where I didn't have to
repeatedly tell people to put their seats up for landing.
Seriously, can't you just do what we ask without the
glares, eye rolling and disdain? For the record - putting
your seat up for landing may not seem that important to your
personal safety. However, it is very important for the
person sitting BEHIND YOU. If you have ever tried to get out
of a row where someone has their seat back you know it can
be a challenge. Try grabbing your ankles (emergency brace
position) or getting out of that row quickly with smoke in
the cabin.

Understand a little better now?

Many of the things we ask passengers to comply with are FAA
directives, like carry-on bag stowage and exit row requirements.
The FAA also dictates when we can serve drinks (in the air) and when
we can’t (after the aircraft door is closed or on an active taxi-way.

We are only allowed to move about the cabin during taxi out for
safety related duties.
We can't get you blankets, or hang coats, or get you drinks.
It’s not because we don't want to. It’s because we are held
personally responsible if we fail to comply with FAA directives, the
FAA can fine us personally up to $10,000 if we fail to comply or
enforce an FAA directive like no bags at the bulkhead, no children in
the exit row and no one moving around the cabin during taxi.

Perhaps now you know why flight attendants get a little testy when
people move about the cabin when they're not supposed to. It’s not
the company that gets in trouble for that, it’s us.

Personally, I wish the airlines would show worst case scenario safety
videos, like what happens if you walk through the cabin during
turbulence. There could be a guy who has just fallen and smacked his
face on the metal armrest and now has a bloody, gushing broken nose.
Or an elderly lady who now has a broken arm because someone walking
to the bathroom fell on her.

Maybe a passenger with a broken neck because somebody opened an
overhead bin during turbulence and a suitcase fell out and onto the
person sitting beneath it. These things can easily happen in a fast
moving, unstable air environment.

Please just trust that we are looking out for your best
interest and stop fighting with us about everything we ask
you to do, it is exhausting.

Finally, please, please direct your hostility and frustrations in the
direction where they will be most effective, the customer service
department. They are the ones equipped to handle your complaint and
implement procedures for CHANGE.

Think about it. Complaining to the flight crew about
your negative travel experience is about the same as
complaining to the office janitor because your computer
isn't working. It may make you feel better to vent about
it but it really won't fix anything. More than anybody,
we are already aware of the lack of amenities, food, service
and comfort on the aircraft. Please share your concerns with
the people in the cubicles at corporate who need that
information to make better decisions for the flying public.

It’s frustrating that so many people are in denial about
what the travel industry is about now. The glory days of
pillows, blankets, magazines and a hot meal for everyone are
long gone. Our job is to get you from point A to point B
safely and at the cheapest possible cost to you and the
company. So be prepared. If you are hungry - get a sandwich
before you get on the plane.

If it’s a 3 hour flight, anticipate that you may get hungry and bring some snacks. If you are cold natured - bring a wrap. Think for yourself and think ahead. Otherwise, don't complain when you have to pay $3 for a cookie and are left with a crusty blanket to keep you warm.

We hear often that the service just isn't what is used to be. Well,
the SERVICE we provide now isn't what it used to be. When I was
hired, my job was to serve drinks, meals, ensure that safety
requirements were met and tend to in-flight medical issues.

Since 9/11 my primary job is to ensure that my airplane will not be compromised by a terrorist. 9/11 may be a distant memory now to many, but be assured that EVERY DAY a flight attendant reports to work he or she is constantly thinking about 9/11. We feel a personal responsibility to ensure that something like that never happens again. We can never relax. We can never, not be suspicious about someone’s intentions.

It is difficult to be vigilant and gregarious at the same time.
Especially when most of us are working 12 hour days after layovers
that only allow 5-6 hours of sleep. Not because we were out partying
and having a grand time on the layover – but because the delays that
you experience as a passenger also affect us
as a crew, so that what was a 10 hour layover is now 8 hours which
doesn't leave a lot of time to recover from what has become an increasingly stressful
occupation.

Despite everything, I still enjoy being a flight attendant.

I am writing this letter because I do still care about my
profession and about the public perception of flight attendants.
In the increasingly challenging travel world it is becoming more
imperative than ever for people to just be decent to each other. I
can go through an entire day without one person saying anything
remotely civil. I will stand at the aircraft door and say hello to
everyone who enters and maybe 50% will even look at me and even less
will say hello back. I will try to serve someone a meal that can't be
bothered to take their headsets off long enough for me to ask them
what they want. Most of the time the only conversation a passenger has with me is when they are complaining.

Is it any wonder why flight attendants have shutdown a bit?
After suffering the disdain of hundreds of passengers a day it’s
difficult sometimes to even smile, much less interact. We are human,
we appreciate the same respect and courtesy that passengers do.

The next time you fly, try treating the flight attendants the way you
would like to be treated. You may be surprised how friendly your
flight crew is when they are treated like people.

Author-Unknown

hikouki

June 14th, 2010, 04:27 PM

^^ I'd prefer both lots be used and cargo ops be moved to CRK, like the arrangement between YUL and YMX in Montréal.

I think you'd still need a cargo center in MNL since not all cargo ops here use dedicated freighters. PAL, for example.

mwg12a

June 14th, 2010, 04:54 PM

^^^^yep, most definitely Hikouki. Even if most cargo operations are moved to CLRK, such as for FedEx and UPS, that cargo area in NAIA would still play an important role as a distribution center. That and commercial airlines still carry some amount of cargoes.
Why not develop that cargo area between NAIA T1 and centennial terminal into another world class terminal for the so called premium airlines.We will give preference to our domestic travellers and OFWs that will be going home to their respective provinces .

Isn't it that's the reason why T3 was built? That cargo area is one vital part of the terminal because one, commercial airlines like delta, Cx and others do not just transport passengers but cargoes as well. As far as domestic passengers are concerned, we have T2 and I feel that extending T2 would provide better connectivity to all regional/domestic passengers if and only if they can really convince PAL to move it's international operations to T3. I really don't understand why PAL management can't device a strategy where they can commence all their activities to and from international domestic between two terminals just as how their are already doing these in T2. T2 and T3 aren't that far especially if they can provide a shuttle service that runs along NAIA property where the passengers doesn't necessarily have to get out of the premises, atleast in time when T2 and T3 is connected by a rail system as it is previously promised by MIAA. I'm just wondering how costly it is for PAL to do these.

Sky Harbor

June 14th, 2010, 04:57 PM

I think you'd still need a cargo center in MNL since not all cargo ops here use dedicated freighters. PAL, for example.

Isn't the ICT for cargo airlines and airlines which send dedicated freighters to MNL?

thescene

June 15th, 2010, 01:06 AM

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=584338&publicationSubCategoryId=66

New administration asked to review $150-million Malaysian offer to upgrade DMIA
By Ding Cervantes (The Philippine Star) Updated June 15, 2010 12:00 AM

CLARK FREEPORT, Pampanga, Philippines – A Malaysian consortium has insisted it has made the “most feasible and workable” $150-million offer to upgrade the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) here, as it appealed to the incoming Aquino administration to take “a second hard look” at its proposal.

Willian Chee of Malaysia-based Bristeel Overseas Ventures, Inc. (Bristeel) issued this appeal yesterday after the government-owned Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC), which runs the aviation complex here, announced recently that is has “accepted for detailed negotiations” the proposal of a local consortium known as Philco Aero, Inc. to expand the DMIA terminal under a joint venture project.

“Take a second hard look at our $150-million proposal and at our track record and experience to finance and complete the project,” Chee said.

Chee said the DMIA project his consortium is interested in “will just be the start of bigger Malaysian investments into multi-billion dollar transportation and tourism infrastructure projects in and around Clark freeport.”

“We also want to develop within Clark a new metropolis development similar to the Kuala Lumpur Sentral which is a city within a city built around Malaysia’s largest transit hub,” he said.

Chee said that despite CIAC’s apparent preference for Philco Aero, “our commitment to pursue this (DMIA terminal) project remains firm and focused and we are hoping that the incoming administration of President-elect Sen. Benigno Aquino III will seriously reconsider our proposal as the best offer to fasttrack the development of the DMIA.”

Bristeel cited provisions of the 2008 joint venture guidelines issued by the National Economic Development Authority (NEDA) purportedly indicating that Philco Aero “is far from securing the DMIA project.”

“According to the guidelines, an acceptance for detailed negotiation shall not bind the government entity (CIAC) to enter into a joint venture activity,” Bristeel noted in a statement.

Kintoy

June 15th, 2010, 11:24 AM

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/500x_duct_tape_fixes_everything.jpg

via Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/5563531/would-you-fly-in-a-plane-fixed-with-duct-tape)

apparently, it's speed tape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_tape)

alcogoodwin

June 16th, 2010, 12:36 AM

OT:

I wonder why such airlines of Virgin Atlantic, Turkish Airlines and Lufthansa prefer their Airbus A340/A330 fleets to have a maintenance at Lufthansa Technik Philippines (LTP)..

Despite Lufthansa Technik has facilities in Europe like FRA, MUC, BUD, MLH, MXP, BRU...

I wonder if this is the company Qantas also uses that were found fixing wiring in planes using staples?
There were a number of rather scary reports about the quality of the work.

hikouki

June 16th, 2010, 03:19 AM

I wonder if this is the company Qantas also uses that were found fixing wiring in planes using staples?
There were a number of rather scary reports about the quality of the work.

Isn't it that QF outsourced its maintenance in Malaysia prior to the 744 cargo hold "explosion?"

b_two

June 16th, 2010, 07:41 AM

bad trip di na naman matutuloy ang move ng cx sa naia t3 ngayong june. sabi ko na nga ba. :lol:

xxxriainxxx

June 16th, 2010, 11:23 AM

Isn't it that QF outsourced its maintenance in Malaysia prior to the 744 cargo hold "explosion?"

Lam ko outsourced na ang QF maintenance sa Malaysia.

lewdsaint

June 17th, 2010, 04:36 AM

From Iloilo main thread

Iloilo Airport
credit to yohanes.sugiarto - Pilot
"The terminal building of Iloilo airport. One of the best airport I ever visit.";):D:yes:

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Kintoy

June 17th, 2010, 09:19 AM

back when Cebu Pacific is not yet an LCC

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Narnian_King

June 17th, 2010, 03:03 PM

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Master_Pogi

June 17th, 2010, 04:03 PM

OT: ^^ sa HK ba to' turbojet yung pula diba??

the glimpser

June 17th, 2010, 04:11 PM

Cathay Pacific’s move to terminal 3 put off

By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 21:52:00 06/15/2010

HONG KONG-BASED CATHAY Pacific’s planned move to the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) Terminal 3 by the end of the month may not push through because some of the airline’s requests may not be granted on time.

However, the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) said it would try to convince two other airlines—one from the Middle East and another from Asia Pacific —to make the move before the end of the current administration.

“Cathay Pacific can actually move [to Naia 3] already. All the systems like baggage handling, passenger check-in, bridges—these are all ready,” MIAA General Manager Melvin Matibag said in an interview.

“But Cathay still wants to build a lounge before they move. That’s going to take some time,” he said. “It doesn’t look like they can move by the end of the month.”

Naia 3, which was opened in July 2008, is currently occupied by Gokongwei-led Cebu Pacific and Lucio Tan’s budget carrier, Airphil Express.

Cebu Pacific earlier said it preferred to be Naia 3’s only occupant given the growth of its Manila operations.

By 2013, the company said that it expects to serve 12 million passengers out of its Manila hub. Naia 3 has a yearly capacity of 13 million passengers.

But Matibag said MIAA officials would meet with other international carriers this week to have more airlines occupying Manila’s newest terminal.

Having one more international airline move to Naia 3 would be credited as one of the last accomplishments of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20100615-275775/Cathay-Pacifics-move-to-terminal-3-put-off

sonofignatius

June 17th, 2010, 05:02 PM

(sorry wrong post. mod: pls delete)

WawaY[625]

June 18th, 2010, 08:26 AM

repost from DIA thread

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PS: ATTENTION CAAP DAVAO....MAY MGA PUNDIDO NA BULBS ON THE APPROACH LIGHTS...PALITAN NYO NA!

NOTE: PAPI lights on both sides of the runway......meaning....DIA is a precision runway...

tigidig14

June 18th, 2010, 08:39 AM

^galing!

OT: ^^ sa HK ba to' turbojet yung pula diba??

makaw...lol

hybridace101

June 18th, 2010, 08:49 AM

bad trip di na naman matutuloy ang move ng cx sa naia t3 ngayong june. sabi ko na nga ba. :lol:

I actually never thought so. But I feel that it could move in before the year's end. It takes a while to construct a lounge.

RonnieR

June 18th, 2010, 09:20 AM

Friday, 18 June 2010 /
Jetstar flight dispatchers sacked: jobs go to Manila
by Ben Sandilands

Jetstar dispatched its flight dispatchers yesterday with a month’s notice, sending their jobs to a service provider in Manila.

The airline has run away from public comment in time for a Crikey deadline.

Dispatcher duties vary considerably between airlines and countries.

At Jetstar they pull together relevant information about winds, storms, conditions at different altitudes, and the ground delays being experienced at the […]
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/06/18/jetstar-flight-dispatchers-sacked-jobs-go-to-manila/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CrikeyDaily+%28Crikey+Daily%29

Kintoy

June 18th, 2010, 01:29 PM

dagdag ^^

Just how much of Jetstar will call Australia home?

June 18, 2010 – 3:47 pm, by Ben Sandilands

The loss of 11 flight dispatcher jobs from Jetstar to a flight services contractor in Manila might not seem like many, but the shift of Qantas group resources overseas is a slow but determined work in progress.

Where might it end? On the positive side of the ledger Qantas has kept the major maintenance of its Airbus A330 fleet in Australia.

On the negative side it has decided to base two longer range version of the A330-200 in Jetstar colours in Singapore, and use them to operate daily flights between Singapore and Sydney from mid December and between there and Auckland from March next year.

The notion of keeping Qantas group airliners in Singapore to serve Australia has not gone down well with Qantas employees, in particular older members of the Australian and International Pilots Association, who are acutely aware that if the Jetstar move generates substantial savings, the board and shareholders will demand to know why any longer haul Qantas or Jetstar jets need to be based in this country when putting them in Singapore, Fiji, Malaysia, New Zealand or the Philippines will make them richer.

(We can scratch Vietnam from the running at this stage.)

In that context, the outsourcing of flight dispatch is another irritation, and another sign of what is coming.

It needs to be kept in mind that when the Qantas Sale Act was devised in 1992 in the run up to privatisation subsequent to the purchase of Australian Airlines by Qantas, no-one had heard of low cost carriers.

Jetstar is substantially unaffected by the act, which doesn’t prohibit the off-shoring of some Qantas functions anyhow, and specifically doesn’t prevent the transfer of fleet and other resources to the subsidiary, or from the subsidiary to Jetstar franchises in Asia.

And Jetstar is the fastest growing, and at least in recent times, the most profitable flying that Qantas does in terms of its full service and low cost brands. In March Jetstar had 8.4% of the Australian international market putting it in third place after parent Qantas on 19.4% and Singapore Airlines on 9.4% and just ahead of Emirates on 8.1%.

Even combining the Qantas and Jetstar shares, the Qantas stake in international flights from Australia is finding new lows, but shareholders are not looking for market share but profits.

The declared strategy for Jetstar has for some time been to use Boeing 787s to reclaim or inaugurate services to markets where the Qantas full service brand would not work.

The strategy has only reached the point of allocating two A330s so far because there are no 787s, and it should be obvious that since they are now to be 787-9s, they won’t be available until some time in 2014, at the earliest.

But the Jetstar strategy is on track in other respects, as is made clear in the official statement (below) that Jetstar gave Crikey too late for publication in its report earlier today. The concentration of flight services in Manila is for all the Jetstars. ...

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2010/06/18/just-how-much-of-jetstar-will-call-australia-home/

-sharkleman125-

June 18th, 2010, 01:51 PM

OT: ^^ sa HK ba to' turbojet yung pula diba??

MORE OT: And she was the former Supercat 2001. I think..

marlowe_cano

June 18th, 2010, 07:14 PM

back when Cebu Pacific is not yet an LCC

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^^

kin, kaano-ano mo ung Enriques na tumakbong congressman ng Dist1 dito sa ZC? sa kanya kami sumuporta! :D

Kintoy

June 18th, 2010, 11:15 PM

^^

kin, kaano-ano mo ung Enriques na tumakbong congressman ng Dist1 dito sa ZC? sa kanya kami sumuporta! :D

not sure... originally from Isabela tatay ko. relatives namin ang mga Bucoy...

marlowe_cano

June 18th, 2010, 11:20 PM

not sure... originally from Isabela tatay ko. relatives namin ang mga Bucoy...

^^

dami rin kasing Enriquez d2 Zambo! :cheers::nuts:

xzibit31

June 19th, 2010, 12:53 AM

Taken from The Philippine Star.....
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=585555&publicationSubCategoryId=66

so i guess the spin-off is legal and will be implemented right away.....

Dole upholds PAL spin-off

June 19, 2010

MANILA, Philippines - The Department of Labor (DOLE) has upheld the legality of the spin-off/outsourcing plan of flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) that would transfer three of the airline’s non-core units to third party service providers.

In a 32-page decision penned by Acting Labor Secretary Romeo C. Lagman, DOLE ruled that PAL’s planned outsourcing/spin-off “are based on lawful ground and all in a valid exercise of managerial prerogative and as such is valid and lawful in all respects.”

The June 15 DOLE order will directly affect over 2,600 PAL workers belonging to the airlines’ Call Center Reservations, In-Flight Catering and Airport Services units.

In dismissing the PAL union’s claim of unfair labor practice, the Labor department said the continuing losses suffered by PAL point to no other conclusion than the intended spin-off/outsourcing “is reasonably necessary.”

In a statement, PAL said it welcomes the DOLE decision insofar as it recognizes PAL’s financial troubles and the need to spin-off non-core services as part of its survival strategy.

“With the DOLE decision, PAL must now focus on the tough challenge of surviving the crisis and competing amidst a difficult operating environment. To do this, PAL must implement various revenue enhancement and cost control initiatives that includes outsourcing,” the airline said.

The DOLE decision also confirmed PAL’s offer to grant separation pay equivalent to one month salary for every year of service to all affected PAL workers.

“We are glad that the Company [PAL] has prevailed upon the service providers to initially hire the workers who would be separated by the closure of In-Flight Catering Operations, the Airport Service Operations and the Call Center Reservations Operations. However, the hiring of these workers shall be subject to the qualification, terms, and conditions laid down respectively by the service providers for admission to employment,” DOLE stressed.

The labor department also upheld PAL’s position that reorganization, as a cost saving device is acknowledged by jurisprudence. “An employer is not precluded from adopting a new policy conducive to more economical and effective management, and the law does not require that the employer should be suffering financial losses before he can terminate the services of an employee on the ground of redundancy,” DOLE said, citing a previous Supreme Court decision.

To assure customers of continuing service, PAL said that airline operations remain normal.
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Narnian_King

June 19th, 2010, 06:21 AM

Airline ticket scam dupes Pinoys in US
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/06/18/10/airline-ticket-scam-dupes-pinoys-us

By Henni Espinosa, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau
Posted at 06/18/2010 7:08 PM | Updated as of 06/18/2010 7:08 PM

SAN JOSE – Hundreds of Filipinos wanting to buy cheap airline tickets to the Philippines fell victim to a ticket scam in the United States.

On Wednesday, the group went to the house of Lily Anne Sison-Lee in San Jose, who sells roundtrip tickets to the Philippines. They paid Sison-Lee but never received the tickets. Sison-Lee has disappeared since Thursday and has not returned calls.

Ethel Cavan, a victim of the alleged ticket scam, knocked on Sison-Lee’s home and said, “Hoy! Ibalik mo na sa amin ang pera!”

Cavan paid for 3 roundtrip tickets to the Philippines worth $750 each. She was told that she would get her flight itinerary only 3 days before the flight.

“Normally, when you buy your ticket, you immediately get it online, your e-ticket. That was a red flag for me,” Cavan said.

Another victim, Charles De La Cruz, said he and his family bought 16 roundtrip tickets to the Philippines for a family wedding.

“Paalis na kami ngayon. Kaya lang kumuha na lang ako ng ibang ticket sa agency,” De La Cruz said.

They had no choice but to buy tickets from another agency worth 3 times more because he said Sison-Lee did not deliver. He said they spent all their pocket money.

“Pinambili ng tickets. Kaya wala nang gagastusin sa Pilipinas. Napasubo na lang yung credit cards,” said De La Cruz.

Chloe Homen acted as Sison-Lee’s middleman and is a ticket agent. She would buy tickets from Sison-Lee and then sell them to others. Homen has been in business with her for 2 years. She says Sison-Lee had always delivered.

This is the first time she failed her and Homen reported her friend to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

“Mayroon na nga client na-ospital dahil sa stress,” said Homen.

About 240 people who bought from Homen have not received their tickets. She owes more than $200,000 because of the scam.

“Gusto ko man ibalik ang pera nila, I don’t have the capacity to pay kasi ako I’m also a victim,” said Homen.

Irene Mayor is Homen’s sub-agent. Mayor claimed that she lost more than $100,000 by buying replacement tickets for her clients.

“It’s just money. But its hard-earned money,” said Mayor.

The group plans to file a police report against Sison-Lee. Balitang America tried to reach Sison-Lee at her home and work but she could not be reached.

Records show there may be more victims. The FBI encouraged all those who have been victimized to band together to make a stronger case against Sison-Lee.

Johnny Francisco, Director of Mango Tours, said Sison-Lee purchased tickets from their travel agency and had occasionally paid cash because she was not an authorized reseller.

“They should have dealt with a legal travel agent. In the state of California, they should be dealing with travel agents who belong to the seller of travel. I strongly advise passengers, when they buy their travel tickets, more so especially in cash, they should also get not only their receipt but their electronic ticket receipt,” Francisco advised future travelers. Balitang America

marlowe_cano

June 19th, 2010, 07:28 AM

I wonder what's happening with ZestAir? They've been silent for a long time. Do they have no plans for expansion unlike AirPhil? A reason may be Budget constraints. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Kintoy

June 19th, 2010, 09:42 AM

about time. the union is killing PAL

Sky Harbor

June 19th, 2010, 03:45 PM

I wonder what's happening with ZestAir? They've been silent for a long time. Do they have no plans for expansion unlike AirPhil? A reason may be Budget constraints. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Z2 has expansion plans, but it will not happen as long as it does not have planes to expand with. And with the increased controversy over the MA60s, I don't know how much longer their turboprop operations will last.

neni0hk

June 19th, 2010, 04:53 PM

Z2 has expansion plans, but it will not happen as long as it does not have planes to expand with. And with the increased controversy over the MA60s, I don't know how much longer their turboprop operations will last.

plus their very good customer service. saan ba natin pwede malaman ang OTP ng Z2?

Sky Harbor

June 19th, 2010, 05:03 PM

^^ I don't think they make their OTP public.

tigidig14

June 19th, 2010, 05:14 PM

BatangInfrastructure

June 19th, 2010, 07:28 PM

what happen to the z2 plan to acquired b767? it is useful for their intra-asian routes like the one they have incheon korea..which i heard they getting a high passenger volume

pthfndr19

June 19th, 2010, 08:11 PM

Kintoy

June 19th, 2010, 11:11 PM

marlowe_cano

June 20th, 2010, 11:11 AM

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wow pthfndr19, ang ganda ng pics showcasing ZestAir! I wanna see the uniforms of its stewards/stewardess. Kung how does it look like. Sana their expansion on routes will materialize sooner! Godbless ZestAir! ;)

pthfndr19

June 20th, 2010, 01:05 PM

^^ here's some pics of Zest Air's stewardess :)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_5512.jpg
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tigidig14

June 20th, 2010, 04:22 PM

yung sumakay ako sa zest, iilan lang ang naksakay w/c is good (for me, may extrang patungan ng paa). pero sa bznes nila, it seems not

marlowe_cano

June 20th, 2010, 04:44 PM

yung sumakay ako sa zest, iilan lang ang naksakay w/c is good (for me, may extrang patungan ng paa). pero sa bznes nila, it seems not

^^

I personally think that ZestAir is not that "aggressive" in promoting itself as a local airline in the Philippines. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

mwg12a

June 20th, 2010, 06:48 PM

That and they really have to compete with 5j, Airphil and PAL. They would need to come up something that other airlines doesn't offer for cheaper or the same price. 5J is making it big because of the cheap airfare they always offer. It's either copy 5j's style or beat it with a better service. Perhaps they should just target certain market and routes never been tapped by the two giants Cebu Pacific and PAL.

the glimpser

June 21st, 2010, 02:48 PM

OFFICIAL AIRLINE GUIDE REPORTS
PAL is top RP carrier from Manila

MANILA, Philippines—Philippine Airlines has been the leading Philippine carrier, in terms of flights and seat capacity, operating out of Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) for the last two years, the aviation industry’s main data keeper Official Airline Guide (OAG) reports.

In a survey of the top airports in the Asia-Pacific region, OAG data show that NAIA’s four terminals handled 1,859 flights per week in 2009, an increase of 12 percent over the 1,654 flights per week handled in 2008.

These flights resulted in 309,616 seats per week flown by all airlines using the NAIA complex in 2009—11 percent more than the 278,130 seats per week flown in 2008.

Of this traffic volume, PAL had a market-leading share of 35 percent of all flights per week and 38 percent of all seats flown per week at the country’s premier airport in 2009, OAG reports.

Both figures represented increases over the 33 percent and 37 percent shares, respectively, that PAL posted in 2008, it added.

In contrast, PAL’s main local competitor was a far second in both categories. The budget airline managed only a 32-percent share in flights per week and 28 percent in seats per week in 2009, according to OAG.

For 2008, the corresponding figures for the secondary carrier were 28 percent and 25 percent, respectively.

The results of the OAG survey are contained in the current issue (second quarter, 2010) of Routes News, a leading industry journal published in the United Kingdom.

Established in 1853, OAG is best known for its extensive airline schedules database. This vast catalogue holds information from more than 900 airlines and 3,500 airports worldwide.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20100621-276800/PAL-is-top-RP-carrier-from-Manila

thescene

June 21st, 2010, 02:58 PM

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/travel/travel-news/pilot-texting-during-landing-20100611-y3l8.html

Pilot 'texting during landing'

AIR-SAFETY experts will investigate claims a Jetstar pilot was text-messaging on his mobile phone just before his aircraft was forced to pull out of a landing at Changi Airport in Singapore.

In an embarrassing incident for Australia's no-frills airline, pilots on an A321-200 travelling from Darwin received an on-board warning when the aircraft carrying 167 passengers was only 122 metres above the ground on approach to the airport in the early hours of May 27.

It is understood the ''incorrect configuration warning'' was triggered because the landing gear was not down. The pilots were forced to abort the landing and start a ''go around''. The 210-seat aircraft landed soon after without incident.

The investigation will examine allegations that one of the pilots on JQ57 was using his phone to send messages shortly before the landing. Neither the investigators nor Jetstar would comment yesterday.

In October two pilots of a Northwest Airlines aircraft overshot their destination in the US by 160 kilometres because they were chatting and using their laptops, in violation of safety rules. The US Federal Aviation Administration revoked their licences.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau confirmed yesterday that it was investigating the ''missed approach'' in Singapore after the crew received an ''incorrect configuration warning''.

The bureau's director of aviation safety investigation, Ian Sangston, said the inquiry was trying to determine the trigger for the warning.

He declined to comment on whether it was because the landing gear was not down, saying there could be several reasons for such an alert.

Nor would he comment on claims that one of the pilots had been using his mobile phone.

But he did say that the aircraft was ''lower than they would have liked'' when the landing was aborted. Investigators from the bureau are working with their Singaporean counterparts.

''Go arounds'' - when aircraft are forced to pull out of landings and circle for another approach - are not uncommon but they gain the attention of investigators when an incorrect configuration warning is made or a plane pulls out of a landing at low altitude. It could take the bureau nine months to report on the incident.

A Jetstar spokesman, Simon Westaway, said the airline was assisting the bureau in its inquiries into the forced ''fly around'' involving its aircraft but he declined to comment further because the matter was in the hands of investigators.

He said the two pilots were still flying. ''We don't comment on any circumstantial information,'' he said.

Kintoy

June 21st, 2010, 05:27 PM

I would never take Zest airlines if the flight is using the Chinese-made aircraft

Blueleo

June 21st, 2010, 05:53 PM

Airport execs optimistic RP won’t suffer aviation downgrade
By Jerome Aning
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:09:00 06/21/2010

MANILA, Philippines – Airport authorities are optimistic that the Philippine aviation industry would not suffer another downgrading or blacklisting by foreign governments and international organizations following the failure over the weekend of a navigational equipment at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

“I don't think we [will] be downgraded. What they measure is how fast we remedy a situation like this. And the navigation system is only of the things they evaluate,” Manila International Airport Authority general manager Melvin Matibag told reporters.

For failing to satisfy international standards, the Philippine aviation sector was placed three years ago under Category 2 by the United States Federal Aviation Authority. Three months ago, the European Union's air safety committee, citing similar reasons, forbade Philippine planes from traveling to Europe and discouraged Europeans from traveling in Philippine airlines.

NAIA's Doppler Very High Frequency Omni-Directional Radio Range (DVOR), which helps pilots take off or land during nighttime, low visibility and bad weather, failed on Saturday, leading one major airline to suspend most of its flights.

However, the MIAA, a government corporation that operates NAIA, said passengers have no reason to worry because there were other navigation aids that pilots could use in landing and taking off, such as the radar and a device called distance-measuring equipment.

In the meantime, the agency borrowed spare parts from the Subic International Airport to repair the NAIA DVOR, which would have to be reconfigured to NAIA settings and then tested.

For this reason, the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines, which regulates air travel in the country, extended its notice-to-airmen up to 4 p.m. Tuesday warning the aviation industry about the failure of the DVOR.

The CAAP said it was up to the airline companies if they allow their pilots to proceed to land at the airport even with the limited navigational aids. The MIAA said that a a contingency measure, planes that are unable to land due to bad weather or poor visibility would be diverted to neighboring airports.

There were no diverted or canceled flights yesterday.

Meanwhile, Matibag said the MIAA is ready to purchase a new DVORm worth about $90 million, if the NAIA unit would not be fixed. The agency may also consider buying more modern navigation equipment if it deems necessary.

The DVOR station in NAIA was installed in 1996; it has a shelf life of 15 years. The DVOR unit was scheduled to be replaced in 2011.

Matibag said the procurement would take about two weeks.

Insiders in the aviation industry said MIAA and CAAP officials, particularly the career executives, are rushing to resolve the situation before the assumption of a new administration on June 30.

“They're moving heaven and earth to fix the DVOR or buy a new one and are begging airlines left and right not to be overly worried about safety. They fear they would be fired, transferred or demoted if the next administration rules that they were incompetent in handling the problem,” said one airport official.

sfo way sipyat

June 21st, 2010, 09:21 PM

^^ here's some pics of Zest Air's stewardess :)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_5512.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_5505.jpg

Thanks for the beautiful pictures of Zest Air pthfndr 19. When will Zest Air tranfer at T3? Looking forward on that time na mapupono na ng A320 aircrafdts ang T3 with different bright colors. I imagined that with the arrival of the A320's ordered by CEbu Pacific and Airphil express, T3 will be blooming just like SFO airport when local carriers like Virgin Americam jet blue, southwest, us air airtran ets. were on the tarmac

kyril

June 21st, 2010, 10:23 PM

I would never take Zest airlines if the flight is using the Chinese-made aircraft

FYI one of their A320's are leased from Jetblue.

FlashCollider

June 21st, 2010, 10:27 PM

^^ here's some pics of Zest Air's stewardess :)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_5505.jpg

Love her....:lovethem:

tigidig14

June 22nd, 2010, 12:03 AM

FYI one of their A320's are leased from Jetblue.

this is so true when i was reading their safety pamphlet. you can see the jet blue logo on it

marlowe_cano

June 22nd, 2010, 03:55 AM

FYI one of their A320's are leased from Jetblue.

this is so true when i was reading their safety pamphlet. you can see the jet blue logo on it

The planes Kintoy may be referring to our the MA60's from China...

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/4/9/1408944.jpg

Blueleo

June 22nd, 2010, 09:34 AM

NAIA runway still paralyzed
By ANJO PEREZ
June 21, 2010, 7:34pm

The VHF Omnidirectional Radio Range (VOR) station at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) is still down as technicians are still busy re-installing and powering-up each module of the system to make sure that it works properly.

The VOR, used to guide pilots land their aircraft during low visibility and bad weather, conked out last Saturday forcing aviation authorities to suspend night flight operations at the Manila runways.

With the system still down, the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) once again extended the Notice to Airmen (Notam) they issued last Saturday to 4 p.m. Tuesday.

The Notam informs the aviation community that there is limited runway operations in Manila and that Visual Flight Rules (VFR) are in effect.

Lito Casaul, the Technical Assistant of CAAP chief Alfonso Cusi disclosed that they had to borrow more modules from the Subic airport VOR station hoping that the technicians can finally get the system running.

“Once the system is up, they will spend another day reconfiguring and calibrating the system before VOR putting it back on line,” Casaul said.

Even if the VOR system is back on line, Cusi and Manila International Airport Authority General Manager Melvin Matibag are mulling the purchase of a new VOR system to replace the old one.

It was learned that the VOR in Manila was due for replacement next year, but with the system breakdown, Cusi and Matibag are now trying to decide if they can push through with an emergency purchase of a new VOR from Europe.

The VOR station was installed in 1996 and has a lifetime of 15 years. The previous CAAP administration has already programmed its replacement in 2011 but with this breakdown, the CAAP is planning to purchase a new system as soon as possible.

“The emergency purchase should be done out of necessity,” Casaul said. “The CAAP is doing everything to address this high profile situation. We are talking about the safety of passengers here so the acquisition of a new system is justifiable,” Casaul added.

When asked where a system could be acquired, Casaul said they have instructed the officials from the CAAP’s Air Navigation System (ANS) to check what needs to be replaced and immediately come up with a list of equipment to be purchased.

Casaul said they have no suppliers yet but added that navigational aid suppliers usually come from the European Union or from Singapore.

The system reportedly costs P90 million.

Meanwhile, flight operations have returned to normal since Sunday morning with no flight cancellations being recorded from Sunday evening to Monday afternoon.

But with the 65 flights cancelled because of the incident, it was the learned that the airport authority was bound to lose approximately P1 million from landing, take off and terminal fees.

Cebu Pacific, the airline company that was affected the most by the incident, is bound to lose more as they have to rebook almost 4,000 passengers that had been affected by the flight cancellations.

kyril

June 22nd, 2010, 11:45 AM

Zest Airways to received two A320

June 22, 2010

Manila - Philippine low cost carrier Zest Airways will take delivery of two new Airbus A320 this year to be powered by International Aero Engine (IAE) V2500.

The ordered aircraft which will be the fourth and the fifth A320 for the airline will join the fleet in July and October respectively. The aircraft was originally scheduled for delivery in November last year but its holding company Asiawide Airways decided to defer its acceptance this year due to funding concerns.

Zest Air currently operates a fleet of six brand new aircraft, with three Airbus 320 and three Xian MA60.

Zest Air vice president for communications Butch Rodriguez said the new aircraft will be used primarily for domestic expansion while its international debut will be made in November when it flies to Singapore and Shanghai. It already flies regularly to Seoul.

“Hopefully, we are going to launch our Singapore flights on a winter schedule,” Rodriguez said.

“We already have traffic rights to Shanghai but our launch was delayed because of non-availability of aircraft,” he said.

The carrier recently stopped its Clark-Hong Kong service two months after it was launched in November 2009 because of poor loads.

I hope maglagay sila ng Gensan route.

marlowe_cano

June 22nd, 2010, 12:12 PM

Kintoy

June 22nd, 2010, 02:09 PM

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/idiot-proof-air.jpg

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/flying-101.jpg

Kintoy

June 22nd, 2010, 02:53 PM

7oKEfC2lekw

mwg12a

June 23rd, 2010, 02:58 PM

This should be here instead .

Navigation system problem at NAIA 'solved,' operations back to normal
GMANews.TV - Wednesday, June 23

Nearly five days after it conked out, a key navigational system of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) has been temporarily fixed and will be up and running Wednesday.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Melvin Matibag said they expect operations at the airport to be fully normal by 9 a.m.

“Kanina lahat na modules na pinahiram ng Subic International Airport ay naikabit at napagana, operational na yan (We installed the modules we borrowed from the Subic International Airport. The system is operational)," Matibag said in an interview on dwIZ radio.

He said the [restoration of the system] prompted the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines to shorten its Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) over the conked-out system from 6 p.m. to 9 a.m.

Since 4 a.m., he said the Very High Frequency Omni Radio Range (VOR) station that conked out last weekend had been on “test mode."

“Originally hanggang 6 p.m. today ang test mode. Pero mula 4 a.m., maraming eroplano ang nakalapag at nag-respond positive at walang reklamo sa function ng VOR kaya iniksian ng board to 9 a.m. (We originally scheduled the test mode from 4 a.m. to 6 p.m. But having no problems with planes’ landing since 4 a.m., the test mode was shortened to 9 a.m.)," he said.

A NOTAM is filed with an aviation authority to alert aircraft pilots of any hazards en route or at a specific location.

The VOR system conked out last Saturday, prompting aviation authorities to delay several flights at the NAIA.

On the other hand, Matibag said the repair of the VOR remains a temporary fix, and that they still plan to acquire a replacement system.

He said such a system has a lifespan of 15 years, and the present system was due for replacement after having been in service for more than 14 years.

Matibag said they have called up the VOR system's supplier, who he said will send technicians with spare parts to the NAIA by Thrusday.

No black eye
Matibag insisted the incident over the VOR will not give the Philippine government a black eye, saying international authorities look not at the incident but at government’s response.

“Alam ng international body pwede ito mangyari. Ang tinitingnan ng international body kung ano ang reaksyon na ginawa ng awtoridad, ng CAAP (International bodies know this can happen. They look not so much at the incident itself as the response of authorities like the CAAP)," he said. — LBG, GMANews.TV

ianers_ianized

June 23rd, 2010, 03:31 PM

mwg12a

June 23rd, 2010, 03:42 PM

Oh wow, I thought DVO was before Arroyo's regime. I hope Aquino would continue all these infrastructure developments around the country. It is one key for progress and economy.

boom_box

June 23rd, 2010, 04:27 PM

As PGMA exits in June 30... I just want to count the airport projects she has done during her 9-yr term that will have a long-term effect to all Filipinos... Feel free to add or correct my counting...
1. Partial opening of NAIA T3.
2. Opening of modern airports of DVO, ILO and BCD.
3. Opening of 3rd class airports of Busuanga, Calbayog and Catarman.
4. Rehabilitation and expansion of Legazpi & Kalibo Airport.

Any additional airport projects?

Additional New Airports and Terminal..

Bicol International Airport
Laguindingan International Airport
DMIA Terminal Expansion..

Kintoy

June 23rd, 2010, 04:31 PM

pthfndr19

June 23rd, 2010, 04:34 PM

As PGMA exits in June 30... I just want to count the airport projects she has done during her 9-yr term that will have a long-term effect to all Filipinos... Feel free to add or correct my counting...
1. Partial opening of NAIA T3.
2. Opening of modern airports of DVO, ILO and BCD.
3. Opening of 3rd class airports of Busuanga, Calbayog and Catarman.
4. Rehabilitation and expansion of Legazpi & Kalibo Airport.

Any additional airport projects?

^^I think Calbayog and Catarman airports are from Marcos regime projects.. but the development has been continued until Ramos admin.
And PAL was already fying there until 1998... then Asian Spirit became the sole operator after PAL... and now there are 3 airlines(5J,2P and Z2) fying to these 2 small airports.

rickie

June 24th, 2010, 09:31 AM

5. downgrade to Cat 2

6. EU ban

7. malfunctioning critical airport equipment

fell down laughing... hahahaha...

Kintoy

June 24th, 2010, 01:37 PM

^^

i forgot

8. the butt-ugly Circulo del Mundo

kyril

June 24th, 2010, 02:03 PM

To all Starcraft fans especially who can't for the sequel to be released next month:
http://kotaku.com/5571473/korea-actually-gets-a-starcraft-ii-jumbo-jet

Kintoy

June 24th, 2010, 03:49 PM

i find these Spirit Airlines ads funny :lol:

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/6-24-20109-31-04PM.png

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/6-24-20109-31-52PM.png

http://tomhoberg.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/picture-10.png

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-08-08-spiritairlines2.jpg

http://poplicks.com/images/milf-spirit.jpg

Sky Harbor

June 24th, 2010, 05:01 PM

^^ Speaking of Spirit Airlines, they're flying again after both airline management and the pilots reached a preliminary agreement with respect to their contracts.

urban Iegend

June 24th, 2010, 06:28 PM

As PGMA exits in June 30... I just want to count the airport projects she has done during her 9-yr term that will have a long-term effect to all Filipinos... Feel free to add or correct my counting...
1. Partial opening of NAIA T3.
2. Opening of modern airports of DVO, ILO and BCD.
3. Opening of 3rd class airports of Busuanga, Calbayog and Catarman.
4. Rehabilitation and expansion of Legazpi & Kalibo Airport.

Any additional airport projects?

+ Tacloban Airport Redevelopment

http://gerryruiz.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/90428gmagroundbreakinglvrw-9782.jpg

ianers_ianized

June 25th, 2010, 07:28 AM

5. downgrade to Cat 2

6. EU ban

7. malfunctioning critical airport equipment

I just want to count the positive things that happened as those give us more confidence and hope for a better future..

kadayao

June 25th, 2010, 09:13 AM

As PGMA exits in June 30... I just want to count the airport projects she has done during her 9-yr term that will have a long-term effect to all Filipinos... Feel free to add or correct my counting...
1. Partial opening of NAIA T3.
2. Opening of modern airports of DVO, ILO and BCD.
3. Opening of 3rd class airports of Busuanga, Calbayog and Catarman.
4. Rehabilitation and expansion of Legazpi & Kalibo Airport.

Any additional airport projects?

sama mo na rin ang rehab and expansion ng puerto princesa & butuan city airport....

"K"

nacnuD 2:-)

June 25th, 2010, 11:29 AM

photo by Burg & Brothers

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k153/sixth2006/LegazpiAirportbyBurgCalleja.jpg

marlowe_cano

June 25th, 2010, 01:50 PM

sama mo na rin ang rehab and expansion ng puerto princesa & butuan city airport....

"K"

and rehab of Dipolog, Ozamis and Pagadian airports...

Sky Harbor

June 25th, 2010, 01:51 PM

^^ Don't forget the rehab of MRQ (Marinduque Airport), SFE (San Fernando Airport) and SUG (Surigao Airport). And the new terminal building at LAO.

Ronskie

June 25th, 2010, 03:48 PM

^^

In fairness nman ki gloria, dami nman nya nagawa kahit andami "nega" sa kanya. I'm so excited for Abnoy administration...tingnan natin kung mapantayan nya mga nagawa ni Ate glow with his zero spending. paupuin na yan at ng mahatulan na.:lol::lol::lol:

boom_box

June 25th, 2010, 04:49 PM

arianespace

June 25th, 2010, 06:02 PM

President Arroyo's aviation accomplishment circles on the community airport across the country which has been neglected due to its poor economic returns.

Examples of those are the airport projects in Jolo, Siargao, Catarman, and Marinduque.
Bacolod, Iloilo, Kalibo and Puerto Princesa were never hers because they were already in the infrastructure pipeline of President Ramos.
Meaning, they are just waiting for funding released by Funding sponsors like those coming from the Korean and Japanese lending institutions.
So too are the airport projects in Laguindingan, Tacloban, and Bicol. NAIA 3 is even a project of El Tobaco.

However, the airport project in Busuanga is atributed to her, and the airport in La Union.

boom_box

June 25th, 2010, 06:25 PM

^^ Appropriately.. she executed those plans initiated by FVR.. especially the Laguindingan Airport which I saw it on the old Cagayan-Iligan Corridor Master plan map... :)

arianespace

June 25th, 2010, 06:41 PM

No because they were forthcoming regardless of who the President was. Even if it was FPJ who did become president, the project would still pushed through. Unlike Busuanga and Siargao which was never part of the General Airport Masterplan but evolved during her term.

And yes before I forgot, Kalibo too can be attributed to her courtesy of the Korean lobby.

pi_malejana

June 25th, 2010, 10:10 PM

how about DMIA...??:dunno:

bitoy

June 25th, 2010, 11:00 PM

how about DMIA...??:dunno:

Meron problema yata sa payment with the sub-contractors, kaya na delay and did not meet the scheduled 90 days completion.

Old issue from Airport-Tech.com (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/)

DMIA improvements

The terminal building at DMIA can currently handle around 500,000 passengers a year (figures show 533,619 passengers in 2007). In 2003 the CIAC board gave their approval to a master plan (put together by the Korean International Cooperation Agency and costing $2m) to develop the airport to its full potential over the period to 2025.

The initial plan was expand the current terminal building (first phase expansion) so that it can accept around two million passengers a year (project costing 130m pesos). This project began in 2006 and was completed at the end of January 2008. The second phase of the project will be the construction of the new Premier Gateway Terminal (starting construction in April 2008) which will allow the airport to handle five million passengers in total.

On completion, in the first quarter of 2010, the old terminal will revert to being a low-cost terminal. At this point both of the runways are to be extended to 4,000m (the airport hopes to become a hub for A380 travel). The development of the airport is expected to cost a total of 56.5bn pesos ($1.7bn).

In September 2008 Admiral Energy (based in Chicago, US) was awarded the contract to construct and operate the new T2 premier gateway terminal. Admiral is currently undergoing the final eligibility tests but has agreed to pay $2.3m as an upfront remittance and then a total investment of $268m (Admiral will use local construction companies to complete the terminal).

ianers_ianized

June 26th, 2010, 07:15 AM

President Arroyo's aviation accomplishment circles on the community airport across the country which has been neglected due to its poor economic returns.

Examples of those are the airport projects in Jolo, Siargao, Catarman, and Marinduque.
Bacolod, Iloilo, Kalibo and Puerto Princesa were never hers because they were already in the infrastructure pipeline of President Ramos.
Meaning, they are just waiting for funding released by Funding sponsors like those coming from the Korean and Japanese lending institutions.
So too are the airport projects in . NAIA 3 is even a project of El Tobaco.

However, the airport project in Busuanga is atributed to her, and the airport in La Union.

So to which Bacolod, Iloilo, Kalibo and Puerto Princesa Airport rehab/made credited as well as Laguindingan, Tacloban, and Bicol, Jolo, Siargao, Catarman, and Marinduque,

arianespace

June 26th, 2010, 10:58 AM

^^
how about DMIA...??:dunno:

DMIA was just a pipe dream since it was never approved by foreign lenders (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/) even during her term. So the government (http://www.op.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28092&Itemid=2) just funded it in its own little way. The CIAC propaganda however will always tell you otherwise. The reality however is always a billion pesos difference. Just like what I told this forum before.

After all the fuzz that has been circulating around, its been talks only in the air. A massive airport project requres an acceptable RATE OF RETURN. Again, we are going back to Economics 101.

Simply put, Clark is not up to it. Perhaps the President with a PHD degree in economics knows something which I never knew in College. Now they are funding it in their own pockets because they can't sell it or maybe the idea of something big!

That is why the Koreans (http://www.koreaherald.com/business/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20090320000052) demanded transfer of all LCC operations from NAIA to Clark which also failed. The Kuwaiti's (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/05/al-kharafi-wants-all-lcc-transferred-to.html) likewise demanded the same thing as well with demands for indefinete closure of Subic airport.

Tacloban Airport project has better rate of return than Clark. How is that for a comparison?

Clark failed not because it doesn't have the support of the Arroyo government, it failed because of inadequate support infrastructure to the airport project which discourages airlines to transfer particularly LCC's. Its true state was reported not by filipino media but by foreign ones. I think an article was written in the Flight International (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2010/01/potential-potholes-hinder-clarks.html) magazine that asked the view of present Clark operators and their connection problems.

An airport's appetite for growth is driven by the number of airlines operating on it and the passenger growth it generates, and if CIAC is indeed successful in Marketing Clark, they would have generated 2 million passengers by now.

The last count stands at 605,000+ which is the figure they should have reached four years ago. Yet they are still demanding a 5 million capacity terminal when half of the present 2 million capacity terminal is not even filled. Extravagance? No, its politics. This is the main reason why government should not, nay, NEVER be in business.

If we follow CIAC projections (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/specs.html), this is what they should have by now or close to it by +/- 10-15% deviations, an additional 300,000 passengers and 50,000 tons of cargo by 2009. The actual numbers in 2009 is not even close to half of it as they were able to register less than 105,000 additional passengers out of Clark and some 17,000+ t cargo. Would it be fair to say that the rest was simply unregistered pax? Perhaps fairer still to argue more that Fedex is no longer with them?

Meanwhile, Tacloban languished in overcapacity problems simply because not much money can be made out of its expansion, or shall we say to the officials pocket that is.

Thanks to the services of Air Asia and Cebu Pacific which is keeping the hopes of Clark airport affloat but that is all there is. Sans the greed.

habagatcentral1

June 26th, 2010, 12:31 PM

So to which Bacolod, Iloilo, Kalibo and Puerto Princesa Airport rehab/made credited as well as Laguindingan, Tacloban, and Bicol, Jolo, Siargao, Catarman, and Marinduque,
One thing about ILO though, its the "Big Man sa Senado" who took majority of the credits for the creation of the new airport. :D :naughty:

lightning099

June 26th, 2010, 02:09 PM

On a gloomy day...in AFPOVAI

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lightning099

June 26th, 2010, 02:13 PM

On a gloomy day Part 2

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michael_ray

June 26th, 2010, 02:20 PM

Laguindingan Airport

LADP aerial photo

http://cagayandeorodev.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/lgn04-copy.jpg?w=468&h=351

laballed by damarre

Sky Harbor

June 26th, 2010, 05:50 PM

http://i48.tinypic.com/fdf2f6.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/51wqyf.jpg

Hm. I thought MH stopped sending A330s here in favor of 737s.

tisoycuba

June 26th, 2010, 06:59 PM

^^

DMIA was just a pipe dream since it was never approved by foreign lenders (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/) even during her term. So the government (http://www.op.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28092&Itemid=2) just funded it in its own little way. The CIAC propaganda however will always tell you otherwise. The reality however is always a billion pesos difference. Just like what I told this forum before.

After all the fuzz that has been circulating around, its been talks only in the air. A massive airport project requres an acceptable RATE OF RETURN. Again, we are going back to Economics 101.

Simply put, Clark is not up to it. Perhaps the President with a PHD degree in economics knows something which I never knew in College. Now they are funding it in their own pockets because they can't sell it or maybe the idea of something big!

That is why the Koreans (http://www.koreaherald.com/business/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20090320000052) demanded transfer of all LCC operations from NAIA to Clark which also failed. The Kuwaiti's (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/05/al-kharafi-wants-all-lcc-transferred-to.html) likewise demanded the same thing as well with demands for indefinete closure of Subic airport.

Tacloban Airport project has better rate of return than Clark. How is that for a comparison?

Clark failed not because it doesn't have the support of the Arroyo government, it failed because of inadequate support infrastructure to the airport project which discourages airlines to transfer particularly LCC's. Its true state was reported not by filipino media but by foreign ones. I think an article was written in the Flight International (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2010/01/potential-potholes-hinder-clarks.html) magazine that asked the view of present Clark operators and their connection problems.

An airport's appetite for growth is driven by the number of airlines operating on it and the passenger growth it generates, and if CIAC is indeed successful in Marketing Clark, they would have generated 2 million passengers by now.

The last count stands at 605,000+ which is the figure they should have reached four years ago. Yet they are still demanding a 5 million capacity terminal when half of the present 2 million capacity terminal is not even filled. Extravagance? No, its politics. This is the main reason why government should not, nay, NEVER be in business.

If we follow CIAC projections (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/specs.html), this is what they should have by now or close to it by +/- 10-15% deviations, an additional 300,000 passengers and 50,000 tons of cargo by 2009. The actual numbers in 2009 is not even close to half of it as they were able to register less than 105,000 additional passengers out of Clark and some 17,000+ t cargo. Would it be fair to say that the rest was simply unregistered pax? Perhaps fairer still to argue more that Fedex is no longer with them?

Meanwhile, Tacloban languished in overcapacity problems simply because not much money can be made out of its expansion, or shall we say to the officials pocket that is.

Thanks to the services of Air Asia and Cebu Pacific which is keeping the hopes of Clark airport affloat but that is all there is. Sans the greed.
:)airlines using Clark Airport..Airasia,Asiana Airlines,Cebu Pacific,Pacific Flier,Kang Pacific Airlines,South east Asian Airlines,Tigers Airways and Spirit of Manila Airlines.... for CARGO-Fedex,China airlines cargo,UPS,Pacific East Asia Cargo Airlines,TransGlobal Airways,Tri-MG Intra Asia Airlines and Yangtze River Express..DMIA still busy airport..

barrera_marquez

June 27th, 2010, 01:27 AM

^^

DMIA was just a pipe dream since it was never approved by foreign lenders (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/) even during her term. So the government (http://www.op.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28092&Itemid=2) just funded it in its own little way. The CIAC propaganda however will always tell you otherwise. The reality however is always a billion pesos difference. Just like what I told this forum before.

After all the fuzz that has been circulating around, its been talks only in the air. A massive airport project requres an acceptable RATE OF RETURN. Again, we are going back to Economics 101.

Simply put, Clark is not up to it. Perhaps the President with a PHD degree in economics knows something which I never knew in College. Now they are funding it in their own pockets because they can't sell it or maybe the idea of something big!

That is why the Koreans (http://www.koreaherald.com/business/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20090320000052) demanded transfer of all LCC operations from NAIA to Clark which also failed. The Kuwaiti's (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/05/al-kharafi-wants-all-lcc-transferred-to.html) likewise demanded the same thing as well with demands for indefinete closure of Subic airport.

Tacloban Airport project has better rate of return than Clark. How is that for a comparison?

Clark failed not because it doesn't have the support of the Arroyo government, it failed because of inadequate support infrastructure to the airport project which discourages airlines to transfer particularly LCC's. Its true state was reported not by filipino media but by foreign ones. I think an article was written in the Flight International (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2010/01/potential-potholes-hinder-clarks.html) magazine that asked the view of present Clark operators and their connection problems.

An airport's appetite for growth is driven by the number of airlines operating on it and the passenger growth it generates, and if CIAC is indeed successful in Marketing Clark, they would have generated 2 million passengers by now.

The last count stands at 605,000+ which is the figure they should have reached four years ago. Yet they are still demanding a 5 million capacity terminal when half of the present 2 million capacity terminal is not even filled. Extravagance? No, its politics. This is the main reason why government should not, nay, NEVER be in business.

If we follow CIAC projections (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/specs.html), this is what they should have by now or close to it by +/- 10-15% deviations, an additional 300,000 passengers and 50,000 tons of cargo by 2009. The actual numbers in 2009 is not even close to half of it as they were able to register less than 105,000 additional passengers out of Clark and some 17,000+ t cargo. Would it be fair to say that the rest was simply unregistered pax? Perhaps fairer still to argue more that Fedex is no longer with them?

Meanwhile, Tacloban languished in overcapacity problems simply because not much money can be made out of its expansion, or shall we say to the officials pocket that is.

Thanks to the services of Air Asia and Cebu Pacific which is keeping the hopes of Clark airport affloat but that is all there is. Sans the greed.

If they just transferred the operations early on baka mas maganda ang inabot ng Clark ngayon.

mwg12a

June 27th, 2010, 02:01 AM

:)airlines using Clark Airport..Airasia,Asiana Airlines,Cebu Pacific,Pacific Flier,Kang Pacific Airlines,South east Asian Airlines,Tigers Airways and Spirit of Manila Airlines.... for CARGO-Fedex,China airlines cargo,UPS,Pacific East Asia Cargo Airlines,TransGlobal Airways,Tri-MG Intra Asia Airlines and Yangtze River Express..DMIA still busy airport..

UPS transfered their hub to China and I believe FedeX left Clark as well. There are still operations going on but Clark is not considered as hub as well.

What arianspace mentioned made alot of sense. Now, I see the reason why PAL isn't even operating in Clark and that most airlines that serve Clark are mostly LCCs with the Exception of Asianna.

tisoycuba

June 27th, 2010, 02:21 AM

UPS transfered their hub to China and I believe FedeX left Clark as well. There are still operations going on but Clark is not considered as hub as well.

What arianspace mentioned made alot of sense. Now, I see the reason why PAL isn't even operating in Clark and that most airlines that serve Clark are mostly LCCs with the Exception of Asianna.

dahil ayaw iwan nang PAL ang terminal nila sa NAIA..kaya nga ayaw nila lumipat sa Terminal 3 nang NAIA..kahit hindi na hud nang UPS at nang FEDEX ang Subic,they still using ang DMIA.. dyan na ako bumaba from here sa Los Angeles via Asiana Airlines..:)

mwg12a

June 27th, 2010, 02:39 AM

hikouki

June 27th, 2010, 03:33 AM

^^

DMIA was just a pipe dream since it was never approved by foreign lenders (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/) even during her term. So the government (http://www.op.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28092&Itemid=2) just funded it in its own little way. The CIAC propaganda however will always tell you otherwise. The reality however is always a billion pesos difference. Just like what I told this forum before.

After all the fuzz that has been circulating around, its been talks only in the air. A massive airport project requres an acceptable RATE OF RETURN. Again, we are going back to Economics 101.

Simply put, Clark is not up to it. Perhaps the President with a PHD degree in economics knows something which I never knew in College. Now they are funding it in their own pockets because they can't sell it or maybe the idea of something big!

That is why the Koreans (http://www.koreaherald.com/business/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20090320000052) demanded transfer of all LCC operations from NAIA to Clark which also failed. The Kuwaiti's (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2009/05/al-kharafi-wants-all-lcc-transferred-to.html) likewise demanded the same thing as well with demands for indefinete closure of Subic airport.

Tacloban Airport project has better rate of return than Clark. How is that for a comparison?

Clark failed not because it doesn't have the support of the Arroyo government, it failed because of inadequate support infrastructure to the airport project which discourages airlines to transfer particularly LCC's. Its true state was reported not by filipino media but by foreign ones. I think an article was written in the Flight International (http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2010/01/potential-potholes-hinder-clarks.html) magazine that asked the view of present Clark operators and their connection problems.

An airport's appetite for growth is driven by the number of airlines operating on it and the passenger growth it generates, and if CIAC is indeed successful in Marketing Clark, they would have generated 2 million passengers by now.

The last count stands at 605,000+ which is the figure they should have reached four years ago. Yet they are still demanding a 5 million capacity terminal when half of the present 2 million capacity terminal is not even filled. Extravagance? No, its politics. This is the main reason why government should not, nay, NEVER be in business.

If we follow CIAC projections (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/diosdadomacapagal/specs.html), this is what they should have by now or close to it by +/- 10-15% deviations, an additional 300,000 passengers and 50,000 tons of cargo by 2009. The actual numbers in 2009 is not even close to half of it as they were able to register less than 105,000 additional passengers out of Clark and some 17,000+ t cargo. Would it be fair to say that the rest was simply unregistered pax? Perhaps fairer still to argue more that Fedex is no longer with them?

Meanwhile, Tacloban languished in overcapacity problems simply because not much money can be made out of its expansion, or shall we say to the officials pocket that is.

Thanks to the services of Air Asia and Cebu Pacific which is keeping the hopes of Clark airport affloat but that is all there is. Sans the greed.

I have a question: do you think that the whole Clark issue was mishandled during the post-FVR era?

The thing is, FVR made several policy speeches during his time. He NEVER envisioned Clark as a SEPARATE airport from MNL. But rather the NEW airport for Manila.

I remember hearing his speech that T3 would be built as a replacement for T1, which would be demolished. By 2008, ten years after it is built, T3 would have begun to approach its full capacity. By this time, rail link between Global City and Clark would be in place such that by 2016 (?), all NAIA ops would have transferred to Clark. I even remember that they put a center-spread report on the Manila Bulletin with an artist's sketch of the terminal complex - four terminals to be built one after the other as capacity is reached. But we all know that during the GMA era, they copied a HK-style mega-terminal.

And as of today, Clark is operating as a separate airport with no SUPPORT infrastructure as you say. So, we are not even at square 1, at least according to the original concept. And T3 isn't even fully operational even when it is now 2010!

ianers_ianized

June 27th, 2010, 05:25 AM

One thing about ILO though, its the "Big Man sa Senado" who took majority of the credits for the creation of the new airport. :D :naughty:

But I think it is still partly credited to GMA's administration...
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So here' a recap updated recounting GMA's infra/airport projects listing are...
1. Partial opening of NAIA T3.
2. Opening of modern airports of DVO, ILO and BCD.
3. Opening of 3rd class airports of Busuanga, Calbayog and Catarman.
4. Rehabilitation and expansion of Legazpi & Kalibo Airport.
5. Tacloban Airport redevelopment.
6. Rehab and expansion ng Puerto Princesa & Butuan city airport
7. Rehabilitation of Dipolog, Ozamis and Pagadian airport
8. Rehabilitation of MRQ (Marinduque Airport), SFE (San Fernando Airport) and SUG (Surigao Airport).
9. DMIA expansion/development.

ianers_ianized

June 27th, 2010, 06:27 AM

^^^ Yon ba talaga ang reason o dahil low yield ang dahilan o hindi pa enough? Dahil puede naman sila mag operate kahit domestic lang at asian regional service kung talagang malakas ang progress ng DMIA. Sa tingin ko dahil sa kulang pa ng facility ang DMIA at mahirap sila mag offer ng product as a full service airlines. Pero teka, bakit pati airphil or ang dating PALexpress wala ring servicio sa clark para sa domestic passengers.

For me, hindi lang low yield kaya hindi mag-boom ang DMIA but kulang din sa infras pra i-connect sya sa capital city of Manila. And then wala din namang gaanong tourism site, place or center to warrant a traffic so airlines are not risking to fly full time there.

hikouki

June 27th, 2010, 07:34 AM

For me, hindi lang low yield kaya hindi mag-boom ang DMIA but kulang din sa infras pra i-connect sya sa capital city of Manila. And then wala din namang gaanong tourism site, place or center to warrant a traffic so airlines are not risking to fly full time there.

They put ExpoFilipino and Paskuhan Village there but parehong nilumot!:lol: I agree, walang reliable means of transport kasi.

tisoycuba

June 27th, 2010, 07:41 AM

^^^ Yon ba talaga ang reason o dahil low yield ang dahilan o hindi pa enough? Dahil puede naman sila mag operate kahit domestic lang at asian regional service kung talagang malakas ang progress ng DMIA. Sa tingin ko dahil sa kulang pa ng facility ang DMIA at mahirap sila mag offer ng product as a full service airlines. Pero teka, bakit pati airphil or ang dating PALexpress wala ring servicio sa clark para sa domestic passengers.

Dahil yan mga airlines na yan pag-aari nang PAL..kaya stay sila sa terminal 2

tisoycuba

June 27th, 2010, 07:45 AM

They put ExpoFilipino and Paskuhan Village there but parehong nilumot!:lol: I agree, walang reliable means of transport kasi.

bakit dto ba sa Los Angeles may tourist spot ba ang LAX dto.. kita ninyu kung gaano kalayu mula LA downtown ang LAX dto..eh ako nga papunta sa LAX Airport 40mins sa amtrak at 45mins sa flyaway bus from LA union station..:lol:

habagatcentral1

June 27th, 2010, 08:13 AM

But I think it is still partly credited to GMA's administration...
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Partly, but not all. :naughty: :nuts: :lol: Even if Gloria wasn't there, that airport would still proceed as planned. Ang kulit ko, wahehe!!! :lol:

pthfndr19

June 27th, 2010, 08:21 AM

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hikouki

June 27th, 2010, 09:23 AM

bakit dto ba sa Los Angeles may tourist spot ba ang LAX dto.. kita ninyu kung gaano kalayu mula LA downtown ang LAX dto..eh ako nga papunta sa LAX Airport 40mins sa amtrak at 45mins sa flyaway bus from LA union station..:lol:

Kailangan bang lagyan ng tourist spot ang LAX para yan dumugin? E pano ba naman worldwide gateway iyan - one of the main Asian gateways between the US and most of Asia! Kahit yata nasa gitna ng disyerto yan, dudumugin pa rin ng mga tao. Ilang terminals/ gates ba kaya magkaroon sa airport sa atin compared sa 8 or 9 terminals ng LAX.

In HK, they put together the airport, Asia World Expo and the China Ferry terminal near each other. In KUL, yung airport at racetrack.

marlowe_cano

June 27th, 2010, 11:22 AM

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^^

ang gandang pagmasdan ang mga revitalized players na ito... naway kayo ay lumakas pa ng husto at tumagal sa industriyang ito, magpakailanman! :banana:

arianespace

June 27th, 2010, 01:55 PM

^^
I have a question: do you think that the whole Clark issue was mishandled during the post-FVR era?

The thing is, FVR made several policy speeches during his time. He NEVER envisioned Clark as a SEPARATE airport from MNL. But rather the NEW airport for Manila.

I remember hearing his speech that T3 would be built as a replacement for T1, which would be demolished. By 2008, ten years after it is built, T3 would have begun to approach its full capacity. By this time, rail link between Global City and Clark would be in place such that by 2016 (?), all NAIA ops would have transferred to Clark. I even remember that they put a center-spread report on the Manila Bulletin with an artist's sketch of the terminal complex - four terminals to be built one after the other as capacity is reached. But we all know that during the GMA era, they copied a HK-style mega-terminal.

And as of today, Clark is operating as a separate airport with no SUPPORT infrastructure as you say. So, we are not even at square 1, at least according to the original concept. And T3 isn't even fully operational even when it is now 2010!

Yes it was. It takes no fool to notice. Particularly if greedy hands dip their fingers at it.

All is well until 2003 when new faces rolled at CIAC. Its no secret that the real reason for Fedex transfer to China is the dodgy deal that is about to take place. It was never the China-hub policy. To make the story short, they were forced out of Subic because some vested interests can't milk a dime out of them.

SBMA and CIAC has been fighting tooth and nail in the sidelight for dominance with Subic winning the initial salvo because of one cargo company. Sometime in 2004, the cargo company can no longer tolerate the heat so it called its headquarters in Memphis on what to do. It took Memphis one year to find Guangzhou. When Fedex left, Subic closed. Plan one, a success, or maybe not?

How is that connected with Clark? Subic airport is operating profitably while Clark is abysmal. Something has to be done to promote Clark, well at the expense of its neighbor, by lobbying fedex to move to Clark or else... But Subic is basically a Fedex built airport so to speak. In 2002 It was the most modern airport in the country, navigational facilities wise, even besting NAIA and what is great about it is being part of the FVR air transport strategy.

Where did it left Clark? Nowhere! But political sponsors need the money to recoup investments. Hello, Garci!...

Cuing from PIATCO's initial success at NAIA 3, spin doctors tried to replicate something big at Clark by making it NAIA's replacement when in fact FVR already did 10 years earlier. What is the catch here? Administrations support, akin to validation of intent.

They were so sure at that time that they never figured PIATCO's mistake. Blatant as it was.

How can the deal work when NAIA approach its limit only in 2030 or somewhere close to that date. The answer, so they thought, is make Clark the premiere airport to force the airline's transfer similar to the Bangkok strategy. Note that Suvarnabhumi was still under construction at that time. So GMA did.

The master plan followed in 2005 but was a flop by world standards with plenty of holes and spurios figures. It was not until the US$2 million study plan in 2007 financed by the Korean International Cooperation Agency (KICA) that the airport project makes sense. It calls for the transfer of all low cost carriers operators operating international flighht at NAIA. Cebu Pacific and other low cost carriers objected and threatened to bring the agreement-for-funding to court. The project eventually ended with the government funding for it. Very silly!

It seems PIATCO part 2 is taking shape. Alarmed, Lance Gocongwei, upon advice of their lawyers lobbied and offered to use terminal 3 instead. In 2008, the dominant LCC of the Philippines is operating comfortably at Terminal 3 which caught CIAC by surprise. That is the problem if you don't coordinate your greed with others as they say.

From the original masterplan pre-GMA, Clark was never conceived as Manila's premiere airport but was designed to follow Paris-Orly, or London-Stansted, not Don Muang to Suvarnabhumi. Its fondly called Manila-Clark by international airlines. Spin doctors wanted the latter and failed. They forgot that when you build major airports, you must make sure that not only airlines used them but passengers must patronize them as well.

What a shame indeed.

michael_ray

June 27th, 2010, 02:08 PM

Laguindingan Airport

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Laguindingan Airport

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Photos by: darknightdetective

hikouki

June 27th, 2010, 02:43 PM

^^

Yes it was. It takes no fool to notice. Particularly if greedy hands dip their fingers at it.

All is well until 2003 when new faces rolled at CIAC. Its no secret that the real reason for Fedex transfer to China is the dodgy deal that is about to take place. It was never the China-hub policy. To make the story short, they were forced out of Subic because some vested interests can't milk a dime out of them.

SBMA and CIAC has been fighting tooth and nail in the sidelight for dominance with Subic winning the initial salvo because of one cargo company. Sometime in 2004, the cargo company can no longer tolerate the heat so it called its headquarters in Memphis on what to do. It took Memphis one year to find Guangzhou. When Fedex left, Subic closed. Plan one, a success, or maybe not?

How is that connected with Clark? Subic airport is operating profitably while Clark is abysmal. Something has to be done to promote Clark, well at the expense of its neighbor, by lobbying fedex to move to Clark or else... But Subic is basically a Fedex built airport so to speak. In 2002 It was the most modern airport in the country, navigational facilities wise, even besting NAIA and what is great about it is being part of the FVR air transport strategy.

Where did it left Clark? Nowhere! But political sponsors need the money to recoup investments. Hello, Garci!...

Cuing from PIATCO's initial success at NAIA 3, spin doctors tried to replicate something big at Clark by making it NAIA's replacement when in fact FVR already did 10 years earlier. What is the catch here? Administrations support, akin to validation of intent.

They were so sure at that time that they never figured PIATCO's mistake. Blatant as it was.

How can the deal work when NAIA approach its limit only in 2030 or somewhere close to that date. The answer, so they thought, is make Clark the premiere airport to force the airline's transfer similar to the Bangkok strategy. Note that Suvarnabhumi was still under construction at that time. So GMA did.

The master plan followed in 2005 but was a flop by world standards with plenty of holes and spurios figures. It was not until the US$2 million study plan in 2007 financed by the Korean International Cooperation Agency (KICA) that the airport project makes sense. It calls for the transfer of all low cost carriers operators operating international flighht at NAIA. Cebu Pacific and other low cost carriers objected and threatened to bring the agreement-for-funding to court. The project eventually ended with the government funding for it. Very silly!

It seems PIATCO part 2 is taking shape. Alarmed, Lance Gocongwei, upon advice of their lawyers lobbied and offered to use terminal 3 instead. In 2008, the dominant LCC of the Philippines is operating comfortably at Terminal 3 which caught CIAC by surprise. That is the problem if you don't coordinate your greed with others as they say.

From the original masterplan pre-GMA, Clark was never conceived as Manila's premiere airport but was designed to follow Paris-Orly, or London-Stansted, not Don Muang to Suvarnabhumi. Its fondly called Manila-Clark by international airlines. Spin doctors wanted the latter and failed. They forgot that when you build major airports, you must make sure that not only airlines used them but passengers must patronize them as well.

What a shame indeed.

What about the rail project with the terminus at Global City? FVR mentioned this, too. And he stressed the importance of the project with any other infrastructure at Clark. Was this a completely separate project or linked in some way to the construction of the first terminal at Clark?

This project, too had so many mutations post-FVR and the last we've heard is the PNR extension with the aid of the Chinese which went quiet after the ZTE scandal.

And now some quarters are suggesting a bullet train.

arianespace

June 27th, 2010, 03:32 PM

Its part of the Clark project following the construction module at Hong Kong airport where rail connection was considered paramount in developing Clark as an alternative hub. Remember, LCC, as a marketing airline animal was not yet born in so far as this place of the world is concern. LCC as a business concept was adopted by 5j only in 2004.

mwg12a

June 27th, 2010, 06:30 PM

Dahil yan mga airlines na yan pag-aari nang PAL..kaya stay sila sa terminal 2

AirPhil nasa Terminal 3, may ari din ay PAL.

mambo

June 27th, 2010, 06:42 PM

photo by Burg & Brothers

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^^mas magadana at kung doon ilipat yong control tower sa maliit na hill na yon:banana::banana:

pthfndr19

June 27th, 2010, 06:51 PM

Ano na nga pala ang balita sa Spirit of Manila at Pacific Pearl Airways??
Are they still in service?

Dreamtofly

June 27th, 2010, 07:10 PM

Ano na nga pala ang balita sa Spirit of Manila at Pacific Pearl Airways??
Are they still in service?

Spirit of Manila resume their flight. We got problem with the pilots contract.

We will operat full soon.

chevy_boy

June 27th, 2010, 08:30 PM

Spirit of Manila resume their flight. We got problem with the pilots contract.

We will operat full soon.

where will spirit of manila fly to???

jeffphilippines

June 27th, 2010, 09:21 PM

PAL sees growth in Aussie routes

Top News
Written by Lenie lectura / Reporter
Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:42

BRISBANE, Australia—Philippine Airlines (PAL) expects traffic in its Australian destinations to grow by 10 percent and post as much as $60 million in revenues during its fiscal year that starts in March.

PAL flies five times weekly to Sydney and Melbourne and twice a week to Brisbane. It utilizes the Boeing 777 and Airbus A-330 aircraft.

“Our destinations to Australia are making money. We should be able to make more money,” said PAL country manager Arnul Pan.

PAL’s Australia service represents 4 percent of the airline’s total revenue target, added Pan. “We are looking at increasing our traffic here by 10 percent because of our comeback in Brisbane, our new plane the Boeing 777, and the partnerships we have forged with travel agencies.”

The load factor or the number of seats occupied during a flight for Sydney and Melbourne currently stands at about 80 percent to 85 percent and about 70 percent for its Brisbane route, that reopened in March.

“It depends on the aircraft that we are using. If we deploy Airbus A-330 then our load factor is at 85 percent but for our Boeing 777 the load factor is 65 percent to 70 percent,” added Pan.

The Airbus A-330 can accommodate 300 passengers while the B-777 can seat 376 passengers.

“Of the total passengers, 70 percent are Filipinos,” added Pan.

The PAL official said that for now there are enough frequencies to service Australia. “Our flights are enough. We won’t ask yet for additional flights. We are now observing how the market is starting to build up as airlines have just recovered from the global recession,” said Pan.

The restoration of Brisbane to PAL’s network completes the airline’s comeback in Australia, following the return of Sydney and Melbourne in recent years.

The new Brisbane service marks PAL’s return to the Queensland capital after a 12-year absence and underscores the airline’s commitment to its customers in Australia despite the global economic downturn.

With the addition of Brisbane, PAL will restructure its Australian operations. The current daily, same-plane operation to Sydney and Melbourne, which now share a triangulated routing to and from Manila, will be modified.

PAL first flew to Brisbane on June 5, 1985. In succeeding years, the city formed a key part, along with Sydney and Melbourne, of the airline’s multilegged operation to Australia.

But commercial and operational difficulties spawned by the Asian financial crisis of 1997 forced the flag carrier to shut down its Australian services on June 5, 1998.

PAL will also be looking to tap the huge Filipino migrant community in Queensland, as well as the leisure, business and cargo traffic out of the state. The airline sees an opportunity to provide Australian travelers, via PAL’s convenient connections in Manila, services between Brisbane and destinations in North Asia like Japan, China and Korea. Travelers, said the airline, can also expect to shave hours off current travel time to these points.

mwg12a

June 27th, 2010, 09:51 PM

They really need to expand T2 if PAL is continously growing.

Kintoy

June 27th, 2010, 10:47 PM

Boeing: 'Very Disappointed' With 787 Problem

Boeing Co. officials said Friday they had found assembly problems in the tail area on some of the 23 completed 787 Dreamliners and would inspect the entire fleet before resuming test flights.

For Boeing, the latest issue with the new plane puts additional pressure on the company's ambitious flight-test schedule. The Dreamliner is already more than two and a half years late to market.

Boeing last December gave itself roughly a year to complete thousands of hours of flight tests to receive government certification before delivering the first plane to All Nippon Airways Co. sometime before the end of the year.

Last week, Chicago-based Boeing said the five planes currently being used in the test program had already flown a combined 1,000 hours, or about 40% of the planned hours.

But in the past few months, senior executives have acknowledged the program is behind schedule and that routine delays have consumed much of the test program's extra padding. The company said Friday that even with the latest hiccup, it's still on track to complete the test program this year.

In a conference call with reporters, Scott Fancher, head of the 787 Dreamliner program, said Boeing was first aware of the horizontal stabilizer issue last week, but it didn't escalate into an issue affecting flight tests until Thursday morning.

Boeing executives over the past few months have repeatedly insisted there were no significant issues with Dreamliner. Only after a report was published on the website of the Seattle Times on Thursday did the company confirm the current issue with the horizontal stabilizer and its decision to suspend test flights.

Mr. Fancher declined to specify whether the issue was found on any of the five Dreamliners that are currently being used in the test-flight program.

"Obviously, we're very disappointed about this issue," he said. "But it's a fact of life with start-up program issues and one we have to deal with."

WSJ (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703615104575328960347093070.html)

Kintoy

June 27th, 2010, 10:52 PM

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By Dominic Gates
Seattle Times (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012201098_787tests27.html) aerospace reporter

When a Boeing 777 lost power and crashed short of the runway at London Heathrow Airport in 2008, the landing gear collapsed and a strut pierced the passenger floor. Yet apart from one broken leg, there were no serious injuries.

When an Airbus A340 landing in bad weather skidded off a Toronto runway in 2005, it broke into pieces and caught fire. But in the minutes before flames engulfed the jet, all 309 people aboard evacuated safely.

Though such accidents don't always end so well — last month 158 people died when a Boeing 737 slid off a runway in India — today's metal airliners are designed to be survivable in a crash landing.

How will Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner, the first airliner with a body built largely from carbon fiber infused with epoxy resin, fare in such a crash?

The new material is tough. But hit hard enough, it breaks rather than bends. And in a fire, the epoxy resin burns.

One early Boeing computer simulation was disturbing.

In 2005, as design of the Dreamliner advanced, a previously undisclosed Boeing analysis showed a crash that is survivable in a largely metal 777 would be deadly in a 787: The impact would shatter the bottom of the 787 fuselage and deliver a jolt severe enough to kill all the passengers.

A Boeing engineering manager called the outcome a "potential showstopper" for the Dreamliner.

Boeing says a key design change and subsequent physical tests prove the final Dreamliner design is now as safe as a metal airplane.

And while a few critics remain concerned, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is close to certifying the jet as safe to fly passengers.

When an auto company develops a new car, it must run more than a dozen full-scale crash scenarios, witnessed by safety officials. Every test destroys a car.

But running full-scale tests of big jets crashing is considered impractical as well as too expensive. As a plane heads toward a crash on land or water, there are too many possible impact variations to test every scenario.

So today's metal airplanes have been certified largely using computer simulations. Manufacturers validate their virtual results with smaller-scale physical tests — flexing the wings, stressing fuselage panels to breaking point.

The FAA and Boeing agreed in advance exactly what testing was needed to prove the 787's safety.

The 2005 Boeing document that laid out the deadly Dreamliner crash scenario was an early mathematical analysis, prepared for the 787 program by structural-dynamics experts in the company's Phantom Works research unit.

A computer-generated drawing from the internal report shows that in a simulated crash, the 777's metal lower fuselage crumples, as one would expect. But the rest of the airframe, including the floor of the passenger cabin, is intact.

Lower fuselage shatters

In the composite-plastic 787, by contrast, the lower fuselage is shattered, with multiple holes. And the passenger floor has broken away from the fuselage and collapsed, leaving passengers with little chance of reaching an exit.

Worse, the Boeing study projected that the impact on passengers would be much more severe in a 787.

The highest survivable impact in a crash landing is considered to be about 20 g, meaning a nearly instantaneous deceleration equal to 20 times the acceleration caused by gravity.

The study projected that at a vertical descent rate of 22 feet per second (about 15 miles per hour), the average peak impact on a passenger's spine would be 15g in the 777.

In the 787, though, that impact would be a deadly 25g, the study concluded.

In March 2005, Phantom Works project manager Vince Weldon sent an e-mail to Boeing's chief technology officer, Jim Jamieson, flagging the simulation as "very dire."

An aeronautical engineer, Weldon worked 46 years in aerospace, half of those at Boeing. At Phantom Works, he assessed the use of advanced composites for future airplanes, though he had no direct role on the 787 program.

Weldon's concerns were examined by a panel of Boeing technical experts chosen from outside the 787 program. Its review endorsed the jet's composite-material design.

"He raised questions. They were investigated," said Boeing spokeswoman Lori Gunter. "We did not proceed with the design until we were sure it was safe."

In 2006, Weldon was fired by Boeing after an allegation that he used a racist remark about a superior in the course of pushing his concerns internally. Weldon, 72, denies that and says the accusation was a way to discredit and get rid of him.

Structural changes

Boeing made structural changes after the 2005 analysis that dramatically improved the jet's crash safety, said Mark Jenks, a vice president on the 787 program.

It redesigned rows of short wedge-shaped support posts beneath the cargo floor so they progressively collapse on impact, absorbing energy and reducing the impact felt in the passenger cabin.

Paolo Feraboli, an assistant professor at the University of Washington and director of its Lamborghini Lab for studying advanced composite structures, who worked for Boeing on the 787 program, said the support posts "fail in a very progressive, very stable, very energy-absorbing fashion."

With this change, Boeing's computer model now projected a much better impact result.

But unlike homogeneous metals, multilayered composites are very difficult to simulate accurately on a computer, said Feraboli.

"We don't currently have the knowledge and the computational power to do a prediction based on purely mathematical models," he said.

So to convince the FAA that its computer model matches real-world results, Boeing did some physical tests not required on previous metal planes.

In 2007, Boeing performed a key "vertical drop test" of a partial fuselage at its Apache helicopter-manufacturing facility in Mesa, Ariz.

An 8-foot-long section of the fuselage's bottom half, with full luggage containers beneath the passenger floor, was dropped from 15 feet onto a thick steel plate. It hit at an impact speed of 30 feet per second, around 20 miles per hour.

That's about 10 times the typical vertical descent rate when a big jet lands, and three times the rate its landing gear is required to withstand.

Videos of the drop test show the fuselage section slamming into the ground and completely flattening along the bottom — evidently fractured and broken, since the plastic doesn't bend. Beneath the passenger floor, small bits of the fuselage support structure fly off.

Floor stays solid

But in contrast to the 2005 computer model, everything above the cargo floor appears solid. The crucial passenger cabin floor and its supports remain intact.

And Boeing said sensors at the passenger seat showed the impact forces were survivable.

"The integrity of the floor area and overall extent of the damage were all within the bounds we expected and required," said Jenks.

He wouldn't disclose the impact forces recorded at the passenger seats. But he said the results validate the 787 design.

"This structure is as good as the 777," said Jenks. "That's what the model is showing when we finalized the design and then ran this test."

On the sidelines of an industry conference in Seattle last month, a leading outside expert with decades of experience in aerospace composites said Boeing is aware its software models for simulating the behavior of composites aren't as good as those for metal.

To compensate, he said, Boeing's engineers built the most conservative assumptions into their design.

The outcome is a structure that is over-engineered and heavier than Boeing would like, the outside expert said. But he believes it should be safe.

However, one Boeing engineer who worked on the 787 design said he's still uneasy.

He said the energy-absorbing stanchions installed beneath the cargo floor will protect the 787 passenger cabin only from the vertical impact of a crash landing. But how will the composite structure perform if the plane hits an obstacle as it skids along the ground?

"There are other crash scenarios in which the stanchions can't help," the engineer said.

boom_box

June 28th, 2010, 04:31 AM

^^ plastics... crap... XD

NTprime

June 28th, 2010, 07:29 AM