malapit ng mag operate ang AirAsia Philippines, pero parang la pa ring update... hmmm :dunno:

Just a question, we might go to the US next year and we are eyeing a JFK-LAX-MNL flight on the return (since we entered the US via LAX and are going transcontinental). Anyway, if we purchase the JFK-LAX and LAX-MNL tickets separately can we still request check-through via LAX? This is assuming that the JFK-LAX leg is operated by AA and the LAX-MNL portion is operated by AA's partner CX (with a stopover at HKG of course but that shouldn't be an issue).

If a check-through is not possible, is a 2.5-3-hour transit time at LAX sufficient?

I wouldn't do it because the terminals for both AA and CX are not in the same building. You would have to retrieve your luggages upon arrival at LAX from JFK, then haul your luggages to the Tom Bradley Terminal, which is quite a distance, it looks close from the map, but the terminal for AA is long, and check-in can take long for International flights also such as going to Asia. If you're flight is delayed I don't think you will have enought time to do all that. I remember I went from JFK to LAX and my luggages were the last to come out with NW Airlines.

malapit ng mag operate ang AirAsia Philippines, pero parang la pa ring update... hmmm :dunno:

umiiwas po kasi sila sa issues na baka matulad po sila sa SEAIR-Tiger partnership... hinahanda po nila mga pangontra nila sa mga gagawing banat ng mga hoodlums ng pilippine aviataion hehe ayaw nila mapahiya.. anyway pinsan naman po ng presedente isa sa nagmamayari sa airasia pihl kaya siguro wala masyado cocontra dito hehehe char!

Just a question, we might go to the US next year and we are eyeing a JFK-LAX-MNL flight on the return (since we entered the US via LAX and are going transcontinental). Anyway, if we purchase the JFK-LAX and LAX-MNL tickets separately can we still request check-through via LAX? This is assuming that the JFK-LAX leg is operated by AA and the LAX-MNL portion is operated by AA's partner CX (with a stopover at HKG of course but that shouldn't be an issue).

If a check-through is not possible, is a 2.5-3-hour transit time at LAX sufficient?

It's unlikely that you'll be able to obtain boarding passes of the CX segments at JFK but you can get your bags checked through to HKG. Make sure to provide a printout of your CX itinerary to the JFK agent and he/she should be able to check it all the way.

Thankfully we now have at LAX several CUTE kiosks in front of every check-in aisle at the Tom Bradley Terminal of which CX is a participating airline (AFAIK). You can obtain your boarding passes there if the regular CX check-in lines seem prohibitive.

If you are unable to get your bags checked through, then 3 hours should be enough of a connection time.

then haul your luggages to the Tom Bradley Terminal, which is quite a distance, it looks close from the map, but the terminal for AA is long

The distance between Terminal 4 and TBIT really isn't that bad. Sure, you have to exit and reclear security, but even if you get saddled with deplaning from the gates in the high-40s, it isn't as much of a trek compared to the layout of other airports.

check-in can take long for International flights also such as going to Asia.
Indeed, if you arrive at the evening Asian departure bank, it can get ugly at TBIT. There's the aforementioned CUTE kiosks to bypass the check-in lines (assuming you were able to get your bags checked through) but security will be a hot mess.

Went to Beijing this week via Cebu Pacific Air. Here are some photos of the Beijing Capital International Airport T2... :)


Thanks for sharing! I've been to T3 and have looked across the airfield and wondered what T2 looked like from the inside. :okay:

From PAL: Philippine Airlines (PAL) recently signed a contract with Tim Neel & Associates, a US-based aviation consultant, to provide technical assistance to the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) to help the country regain full compliance with international aviation safety standards.

The contract was signed in Los Angeles, California, by retired Brig. Gen. Tim Neel (2nd from left) and PAL President Jaime J. Bautista (right). Others shown after the contract signing are Cesar Chiong (left), senior assistant vice president and executive assistant to the PAL President; and Capt. Johnny Andrews, deputy director general for administration - CAAP.

The Manila Times.net
Manila, Kuala Lumpur agree on open skies
THE Philippines and Malaysia have agreed on unlimited flights to airports outside Manila as well as raising flights between Manila and Kuala-Lumpur, according to the Civil Aeronautics Board.
Carmelo Arcilla, CAB executive director, said the Philippines and Malaysia agreed to amend their air-services agreement by increasing seats to 2,520 per week from the current 2,300 between Manila and Kuala Lumpur.
At present, Cebu Pacific, Philippine Airlines and Malaysian Airlines fly to and from Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu
“We also agreed on unlimited traffic rights to airports outside of Manila, in keeping with the spirit of Executive Order No. 29,” Arcilla said.
Arcilla said Philippine carriers can also fly unlimited to other airports in Malaysia.
EO 29 further liberalized the Philippine skies to foreign airlines specifically to airports other than the Ninoy Aquino International Airport to advance domestic tourism, boost investment in the countryside, foster trade and generate employment.
Besides Malaysia, the Philippine air panel plans to hold talks with Japan and Hong Kong within the year.
The Philippine air panel is composed of officials from the Departments of Transportation and Communications, of Foreign Affairs, of Tourism, of Trade and Industry, CAB, and representatives from airlines.
Last year, the Philippine government completed bilateral air talks with China, Singapore, Qatar, South Korea, among others.
The liberalization of the Philippines’ air policy is part of the Aquino administration’s plan to achieve the six million tourism target by 2016.
The goal of the government is to meet its target of around $4.6 billion tourism revenues by 2016, contributing 6.35 percent to gross domestic product.
Over the six year period, the industry is envisioned to create three million new jobs.
Darwin G. Amojelar

It's unlikely that you'll be able to obtain boarding passes of the CX segments at JFK but you can get your bags checked through to HKG. Make sure to provide a printout of your CX itinerary to the JFK agent and he/she should be able to check it all the way.

Thankfully we now have at LAX several CUTE kiosks in front of every check-in aisle at the Tom Bradley Terminal of which CX is a participating airline (AFAIK). You can obtain your boarding passes there if the regular CX check-in lines seem prohibitive.

If you are unable to get your bags checked through, then 3 hours should be enough of a connection time.



There should be no problem about boarding passes on the web since it is a flight leaving the US (flights going to the US are a different story though).

Since you said we can have our luggage checked through HKG does that mean we need to reclaim them at HKG and re-check them in all the way to MNL?

In relation to this, if we commence AA's return journey at JFK and continue from LAX, were do we surrender the I-94 card at, AA's station at JFK or CX's station at LAX?

There should be no problem about boarding passes on the web since it is a flight leaving the US (flights going to the US are a different story though).

Since you said we can have our luggage checked through HKG does that mean we need to reclaim them at HKG and re-check them in all the way to MNL?

In relation to this, if we commence AA's return journey at JFK and continue from LAX, were do we surrender the I-94 card at, AA's station at JFK or CX's station at LAX?
Sorry, I keep forgetting about OLCI (this is twice already :nuts:). That should save you some extra time for tackling security then.

I didn't notice that MNL was your termination point at first; yes your bags will go all the way to MNL if it's in the same itinerary as the LAX-HKG flight. Ensure that the agent tagged it to there before he/she sends it off.

IIRC, you would give the I-94 to the airline that's responsible for the flight that will take you out of the country, so CX.

Thankfully we now have at LAX several CUTE kiosks in front of every check-in aisle at the Tom Bradley Terminal of which CX is a participating airline (AFAIK). You can obtain your boarding passes there if the regular CX check-in lines seem prohibitive.

:okay:


I'm surprised LAX only started having self-service check in kiosk recently. McCarran International pioneered the self service check in kiosk back in 2003. The airport also allow off site check-in at 4 other locations.
As far as luggage check in, prior to 9/11 it was done off site as well in hotels but was shutdown after 9/11. It resumed once again around 2006.

BTW how is the airport upgrade at LAX? When will it be done?

@Kintoy: Despite Suvarnabhumi's impressive size and, as some call it, awesome architecture, I still find it to be one enormous heap of mangled steel and concrete (like I imagine what the aftermath of an earthquake would leave behind when a California stacked freeway collapsed with debris strewn all around). :lol: But beautiful photos though. :okay:

Di ko rin nagustuhan ang Suvarnabhumi..parang sobrang "cold" ng interiors to the point ne medyo depressing ang atmosphere..Mas gusto ko pa ang interiors ng NAIA TII

It's amazing how we Pinoys like the tag words attached to a place or thing.Like the word ''International'' to an airport.Big airports around the world have simple names like the Changi Airport in Singapore,Charles de Gaulle in Paris, LAX in LA and of course the multi-terminal confusing hub in London that is Heathrow Airport.We don't really need this ''International'' tag,do we?

Di ka na nasanay..Metro..International..World Class..paboritong term yan dito sa SSC :lol:

Just a question, we might go to the US next year and we are eyeing a JFK-LAX-MNL flight on the return (since we entered the US via LAX and are going transcontinental). Anyway, if we purchase the JFK-LAX and LAX-MNL tickets separately can we still request check-through via LAX? This is assuming that the JFK-LAX leg is operated by AA and the LAX-MNL portion is operated by AA's partner CX (with a stopover at HKG of course but that shouldn't be an issue).

If a check-through is not possible, is a 2.5-3-hour transit time at LAX sufficient?

Guess this was already answered. I had the same concern when I had to fly via CX+AF (MNL-HKG-CDG-BKO and back). Our travel agency gave me a consolidated itinerary but it indicates 2 e-ticket numbers as there are 2 tickets issued separately. If you have both tickets, you should be able to check your luggages through. So I got my luggage at final destination.

Unfortunately, rebooking is a different story for non-codeshared airlines. You have to rebook them separately. :nuts:

why do they have to ban PAL from the EU? there are countries in which not all airlines are banned. some are exempted. they should also do that to PAL, which has a superb safety record.

^^ PAL and Cebu Pacific can be exempted from the EU ban, but I believe the EU is expressing reservations because of the CAAP.

CAAP. oh CAAP. pffft.

It's unlikely that you'll be able to obtain boarding passes of the CX segments at JFK but you can get your bags checked through to HKG. Make sure to provide a printout of your CX itinerary to the JFK agent and he/she should be able to check it all the way.

Thankfully we now have at LAX several CUTE kiosks in front of every check-in aisle at the Tom Bradley Terminal of which CX is a participating airline (AFAIK). You can obtain your boarding passes there if the regular CX check-in lines seem prohibitive.

If you are unable to get your bags checked through, then 3 hours should be enough of a connection time.



The distance between Terminal 4 and TBIT really isn't that bad. Sure, you have to exit and reclear security, but even if you get saddled with deplaning from the gates in the high-40s, it isn't as much of a trek compared to the layout of other airports.


Indeed, if you arrive at the evening Asian departure bank, it can get ugly at TBIT. There's the aforementioned CUTE kiosks to bypass the check-in lines (assuming you were able to get your bags checked through) but security will be a hot mess.



Thanks for sharing! I've been to T3 and have looked across the airfield and wondered what T2 looked like from the inside. :okay:

I wouldn't advise nor take risk to have 2-3 hr layover on an international flight. You're assuming that the flight from JFK will be on-time, what if it is not? They will have to pay for all re-bookings and hotels, there may not be another flight til the next day. If you can find a 6hour layover, at least you're safe. I'm sure meron flights all day from JFK to LAX, madami, but to risk is not worth it.

I wouldn't advise nor take risk to have 2-3 layover on an international flight. You're assuming that the flight from JFK will be on-time, what if it is not? They will have to pay for all re-bookings and hotels, there may not be another flight til the next day. If you can find a 6hour layover, at least you're safe. I'm sure meron flights all day from JFK to LAX, madami, but to risk is not worth it.

oh no, 2 or 3 hours is definitely too short for international travel layover. You're right, sometimes, even around the US that is even not enough as I have experienced having to rush to another gate that happen to be too far apart from one another such as in the case of Chicago and Atlanta's airports. Although there are now trams or trains in large terminals such as CHI and ATL, you'd still be running out of time getting to your connecting flights. I mean 3 hours is on the safe side on US domestic flight anything less than that, you'd be pressed for time. What more in the international travel, infact I've had 2.5 hours one time over Minneappolis-St Paul Airport coming from the Philippines, the immigration was breeze but all other extras connected to immigration and baggage claim got me delayed that it only left me 30 mins to scramble my way to the other gate for my connecting flight to Springfield, I almost had a heart attack due to exhaustion when I tried to run down the concourse to catch that flight, good thing there was a passing trolley and I had to pay him to drive me to a different concourse gate outside the international wing. That experience wasn't fun at all but it's somehow was my fault for thinking 2.5 hour was enough. Boy, had I learned from it the hardway...

IIRC, you would give the I-94 to the airline that's responsible for the flight that will take you out of the country, so CX.

What if either by SOP or sheer luck AA's station at JFK decides to check your luggage through to the CX flight and you procured your boarding passes for all the flights concerned, do you still need to go to the check-in counters of CX at LAX and turnover the I-94 card to them (since there are no more bags to surrender or boarding passes to claim)? If not, who will you turnover the card to?

^^ I think when you have AA to the Philippines, you'd be taking AA from JFK to LA, then LA to HK and from HK it would be CX from HK to MLA. Since they both belongs to One World, when you book a flight it shows in your iterenary including your iterinary from HK to MLA via CX.

;79373262']Di ko rin nagustuhan ang Suvarnabhumi..parang sobrang "cold" ng interiors to the point ne medyo depressing ang atmosphere..Mas gusto ko pa ang interiors ng NAIA TII
It may be due the blue lighting they use inside, it helps calm down the atmosphere but somehow it can also invoke depression.

why do they have to ban PAL from the EU? there are countries in which not all airlines are banned. some are exempted. they should also do that to PAL, which has a superb safety record.

When was their last plane crash, do you know ?

^^ wasn't it that a320 airbus in bacolod I think, it wasn't a fatal accident though. I think it was in 1998 where it overshoot the runway.

When was their last plane crash, do you know ?

in 2007 PAL Airbus 320 overshot the runway in Tacloban.

oh no, 2 or 3 hours is definitely too short for international travel layover. You're right, sometimes, even around the US that is even not enough as I have experienced having to rush to another gate that happen to be too far apart from one another such as in the case of Chicago and Atlanta's airports. Although there are now trams or trains in large terminals such as CHI and ATL, you'd still be running out of time getting to your connecting flights. I mean 3 hours is on the safe side on US domestic flight anything less than that, you'd be pressed for time. What more in the international travel, infact I've had 2.5 hours one time over Minneappolis-St Paul Airport coming from the Philippines, the immigration was breeze but all other extras connected to immigration and baggage claim got me delayed that it only left me 30 mins to scramble my way to the other gate for my connecting flight to Springfield, I almost had a heart attack due to exhaustion when I tried to run down the concourse to catch that flight, good thing there was a passing trolley and I had to pay him to drive me to a different concourse gate outside the international wing. That experience wasn't fun at all but it's somehow was my fault for thinking 2.5 hour was enough. Boy, had I learned from it the hardway...

at the security scan, you will consume at least an hour at LAX. knowing CX's flights, they are at the peak of Asia bound flights which are from 9pm to 1am. The lines are long. i remember a friend going home travelling with the same path, had to retrieve their luggages and then checked them in, and this is a connecting flight already. I believe they only automatically load your luggages if it is a codeshare flight with a change in aircraft or airlines. also I think the person asking isn't a connecting flight because if it is, it wouldn't be 2-3 layover. airlines would not allow it. he is asking base on the flights available online and if he can make it with those layover between flights.

NEW ORMOC CITY AIRPORT TERMINAL :banana::banana::banana:
Construction update of New Ormoc Airport Terminal Building
June 10, 2011

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mas maganda pa ngaun ang airport terminal ng ormoc kay sa tacloban eh 7th busiest airport sa pinas? ang tacloban airport terminal parang wet market lalo na pag puro delayed na flights, siksikan at saka very unsafe kng may fire. bakit ganun ang mga prioredad nila sa pinas?

Nauna pa mabago ang airport ng iloilo kaysa sa caticlan eh ang daming pera galing labas ang nadadala ng caticlan dahil sa mga tourists. kakatawa, if u look at the terminal sa ormoc halos kalahati lang ang tacloban terminal jan for almost 1 million passengers a year ang dumadaan sa airport na yun. sa ormoc proppeler lang ang maglaland jan pero laki ng terminal at ang flight once a day. hayz palakasan lang talaga.

^^wala ng commercial flight ngayon sa Ormoc... Siguro may palakasan nga... Malapit kasi si Congw. Lucy Torres-Gomez kay Pnoy... Diba wala nman sa pipeline ng mga airport developments ang Ormoc Airport? Pero nauna pa sya...
Ang sa Tacloban nag-groundbreaking at naumpisahan pero hindi na natuloy... dahil siguro hindi ka-partido ang mayor.

^^welcome sa tuwid na daan...:D..recent excuse ng national gov't eh wala daw masyadong turista kaya no need na.dapat daw ma justify ng tacloban why the need for a new terminal kahit 7th/8th busiest airport pa yan sa pinas.yung mga alipores (P) naman ni pnoy dito ayun agree agad...:lol:

NEW ORMOC CITY AIRPORT TERMINAL :banana::banana::banana:

Looks like a really nice solution for a small budget. But hell, where is the tarmac ?

Ang daming bitter ah

^^ I think when you have AA to the Philippines, you'd be taking AA from JFK to LA, then LA to HK and from HK it would be CX from HK to MLA. Since they both belongs to One World, when you book a flight it shows in your iterenary including your iterinary from HK to MLA via CX.


Actually my scenario is that the AA and CX flights were booked separately. But just in case AA accommodates your request to check your luggage through to the CX flight and all boarding passes are with you, where do you surrender the I-94 now?

in 2007 PAL Airbus 320 overshot the runway in Tacloban.

i think the latest incident was that A320 undershooting KLO's runwway. nothing too major. still a safe airline.

;79373308']Di ka na nasanay..Metro..International..World Class..paboritong term yan dito sa SSC :lol:

:lol: It's pandemic! ;)

i think the latest incident was that A320 undershooting KLO's runwway. nothing too major. still a safe airline.

^^

i think the latest one was in ZIA wherein a tire was stucked up in mud during a turn in the runway.

mas maganda pa ngaun ang airport terminal ng ormoc kay sa tacloban eh 7th busiest airport sa pinas? ang tacloban airport terminal parang wet market lalo na pag puro delayed na flights, siksikan at saka very unsafe kng may fire. bakit ganun ang mga prioredad nila sa pinas?

Nauna pa mabago ang airport ng iloilo kaysa sa caticlan eh ang daming pera galing labas ang nadadala ng caticlan dahil sa mga tourists. kakatawa, if u look at the terminal sa ormoc halos kalahati lang ang tacloban terminal jan for almost 1 million passengers a year ang dumadaan sa airport na yun. sa ormoc proppeler lang ang maglaland jan pero laki ng terminal at ang flight once a day. hayz palakasan lang talaga.

^^wala ng commercial flight ngayon sa Ormoc... Siguro may palakasan nga... Malapit kasi si Congw. Lucy Torres-Gomez kay Pnoy... Diba wala nman sa pipeline ng mga airport developments ang Ormoc Airport? Pero nauna pa sya...
Ang sa Tacloban nag-groundbreaking at naumpisahan pero hindi na natuloy... dahil siguro hindi ka-partido ang mayor.

^^welcome sa tuwid na daan...:D..recent excuse ng national gov't eh wala daw masyadong turista kaya no need na.dapat daw ma justify ng tacloban why the need for a new terminal kahit 7th/8th busiest airport pa yan sa pinas.yung mga alipores (P) naman ni pnoy dito ayun agree agad...:lol:

^^kung tinuloy sana ganito na dapat look ng new terminal (either of the two):

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7705/p1010187e.jpg

or this...

http://gerryruiz.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/tacairport-aerial-w-1b.jpg

^^Baka maunahan pa ng Catarman airport ang Tacloban nyan...:lol:

oo nga pala.. may on-going construction din ngayon sa Catbalogan Airport.

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ito daw yung plano...
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This one has my preference. A lot more open, spacey design.

sana lahat na ng airports sa pinas ma modernize: ung designs, facilites etc.

I wouldn't advise nor take risk to have 2-3 hr layover on an international flight. You're assuming that the flight from JFK will be on-time, what if it is not? They will have to pay for all re-bookings and hotels, there may not be another flight til the next day. If you can find a 6hour layover, at least you're safe. I'm sure meron flights all day from JFK to LAX, madami, but to risk is not worth it.

I agree that it's best to prepare for contingencies and would ideally ensure to make leeway for when such situations occur. That said, you are right, I only took the best case of scenarios and didn't assume a delay in there and yes I agree that 6 hours is the safer bet. But even then, there's also the possibility that 6 hours might not be enough as well (say, a flight goes MX and the next flights out of JFK is overbooked...unlikely, but still a possibility nonetheless).

In the end, you can only prepare for so much and, for convenience, utilize the longterm averages seem to come out of the anecdotal experiences of others, look up the legal MCTs, build in regular scenarios that travelers may encounter (long lines), and come up with some aggregate result. The 2-3 hours estimated average connection time that seems to work for most travelers when transiting through this specific cross-terminal domestic-international connection scenario. That said, that shouldn't stop you should you decide to err to the side of caution. As they say, your miles may vary. (And this is why I have an annual travel insurance policy.)

On the flipside, if it were an international-domestic connection, then there's no way in hell that 2-3 hours would work, especially at the mid-morning arrival rush hour (unless you signed up for Global Entry and have carry-ons only).

. airlines would not allow it.

Actually, the legal minimum connection time (MCT) for domestic-international in LAX is 1 1/2 hours and 2 hours between international and domestic. Is it advisable to cut it that close? NO. But that's the closest you can legally get in an itinerary via LAX in which the airlines are willing to sell you.

at the security scan, you will consume at least an hour at LAX. knowing CX's flights, they are at the peak of Asia bound flights which are from 9pm to 1am. The lines are long.

Indeed, the evening Asian rush hour is truly a hot mess. In the long term, the plan is to tear up the upper mezzanine level and create a new security checkpoint where the current reLAX Lounge is and will connect with the new concourse. This also reminds me: before entering security, compare the north and south entry points and choose whichever is the more efficient one. Both checkpoints are linked airside and you are able to go through both ends should you choose a checkpoint opposite of where your gate is located.

I believe they only automatically load your luggages if it is a codeshare flight with a change in aircraft or airlines.

Actually it doesn't have to be just a codeshare. As long as both airlines have an interline agreement, then you're able to check your bags to your final destination even if they are of separate PNRs.

Actually my scenario is that the AA and CX flights were booked separately. But just in case AA accommodates your request to check your luggage through to the CX flight and all boarding passes are with you, where do you surrender the I-94 now?
I would still say with CX. When in doubt, you can consult the check-in agent at JFK and if that doesn't work, your last chance is surrendering it at the podium in the gate prior to boarding the CX flight.

I agree that it's best to prepare for contingencies and would ideally ensure to make leeway for when such situations occur. That said, you are right, I only took the best case of scenarios and didn't assume a delay in there and yes I agree that 6 hours is the safer bet. But even then, there's also the possibility that 6 hours might not be enough as well (say, a flight goes MX and the next flights out of JFK is overbooked...unlikely, but still a possibility nonetheless).

In the end, you can only prepare for so much and, for convenience, utilize the longterm averages seem to come out of the anecdotal experiences of others, look up the legal MCTs, build in regular scenarios that travelers may encounter (long lines), and come up with some aggregate result. The 2-3 hours estimated average connection time that seems to work for most travelers when transiting through this specific cross-terminal domestic-international connection scenario. That said, that shouldn't stop you should you decide to err to the side of caution. As they say, your miles may vary. (And this is why I have an annual travel insurance policy.)

On the flipside, if it were an international-domestic connection, then there's no way in hell that 2-3 hours would work, especially at the mid-morning arrival rush hour (unless you signed up for Global Entry and have carry-ons only).



Actually, the legal minimum connection time (MCT) for domestic-international in LAX is 1 1/2 hours and 2 hours between international and domestic. Is it advisable to cut it that close? NO. But that's the closest you can legally get in an itinerary via LAX in which the airlines are willing to sell you.



Indeed, the evening Asian rush hour is truly a hot mess. In the long term, the plan is to tear up the upper mezzanine level and create a new security checkpoint where the current reLAX Lounge is and will connect with the new concourse. This also reminds me: before entering security, compare the north and south entry points and choose whichever is the more efficient one. Both checkpoints are linked airside and you are able to go through both ends should you choose a checkpoint opposite of where your gate is located.



Actually it doesn't have to be just a codeshare. As long as both airlines have an interline agreement, then you're able to check your bags to your final destination even if they are of separate PNRs.


I would still say with CX. When in doubt, you can consult the check-in agent at JFK and if that doesn't work, your last chance is surrendering it at the podium in the gate prior to boarding the CX flight.

Thanks for this comprehensive information. Should it push through, fortunately members of the travelling party will spend a few days in LAX after arrival. I, who will catch-up later to the east coast, may consider an overnight at the Crown Plaza first which shouldn't cost a fortune. Besides, LAX-MCO flight options are limited late night and MCO's public transportation is extremely thin for a 6.00 arrival and travel to the resorts.

On the return trip though, it will cost the rest of the party to go overnight and quite inconvenient to leave JFK early for the 13.05 flight. We also don't want to bore ourselves while at LAX. But is the time slot of the afternoon LAX-HKG CX flight part of day time "rush hour?"

^^Baka maunahan pa ng Catarman airport ang Tacloban nyan...:lol:

oo nga pala.. may on-going construction din ngayon sa Catbalogan Airport.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/catbalogan_airport.jpg

ito daw yung plano...
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/CATBALOGAN-4.jpg

^^is this the official render?..:)

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inside the B747-400 (dvo-mla flight)

mabuti na lang may chess game....
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.... at nakalimutan ko ang gutom ko :rofl:
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^^
:lol: Wla na bang may isasarap pa? :D

^^ eh ni-toothpick wala silang maibigay.. inimagine ko na lang na adobo yoong biskit at coke yoong kape :rofl:

try putting the word THE. it's cleaner :lol:

The Panglao World Class, Highly Anticipated International Airport of the World

The Godofredo P. Ramos soon-to-be International Airport

The Small but Busy Kalibo International Airport

dba? sa atin ung pinakadetailed na names ng airport? go Philippines! :banana:

^^ lol :rofl:

bakit walang mga Embraers at CRJ's dito sa Pinas? Everywhere I see Airbuses...wla nang 737's.

bakit walang mga Embraers at CRJ's dito sa Pinas? Everywhere I see Airbuses...wla nang 737's.

Except a few old models 737-200 stored by Air Phil NAIA) and Pacific Pearl (Subic), and possibly one or two of them stored iat Clark they disappeared from Philippine airports completely.

For one reason, no more service for them here (LTP) stopped and Singapore sees no reason since 5J doesn´t utilize them.

For another Airbus Marketing Strategies were very aggressive her offering best leasing and purchase conditions.

Anyone else have further reasons I don´t know ?

.... at nakalimutan ko ang gutom ko :rofl:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249516_1950303691555_1661510793_1999895_234558_n.jpg


kakabusog naman:cheers:

LTP ba ung in-charge sa maintenance ng 5J birds? ung Zest Air?

Thanks for this comprehensive information. Should it push through, fortunately members of the travelling party will spend a few days in LAX after arrival. I, who will catch-up later to the east coast, may consider an overnight at the Crown Plaza first which shouldn't cost a fortune. Besides, LAX-MCO flight options are limited late night and MCO's public transportation is extremely thin for a 6.00 arrival and travel to the resorts.

On the return trip though, it will cost the rest of the party to go overnight and quite inconvenient to leave JFK early for the 13.05 flight. We also don't want to bore ourselves while at LAX. But is the time slot of the afternoon LAX-HKG CX flight part of day time "rush hour?"

Correct, CX885 is more on the around the center of the late-morning/early afternoon rush. You have LA, KE, MU, NH, TN, OZ, and JL flights departing within the hour of CX885.

With regards to the CP, it's one of the closer properties to the airport (just behind the Radisson and Sheraton) which should work well. Be warned, though, that most hotels around the Century Blvd. strip share the same light blue buses so make sure to keep an eye out for one that has "RADISSON/CROWNE PLAZA" listed in the electronic displays. They usually run every 15-30 minutes. You can catch the shuttles at curb under the red sign which will be to your right upon exiting TBIT.

I feel you with regards to public transportation options at MCO. I haven't bothered trying Lynx but in terms of private companies, I've actually been content with Mear's (http://www.mearstransportation.com/) shared ride vans when connecting between the MCO and hotels outside the airport vicinity.

I'm surprised LAX only started having self-service check in kiosk recently. McCarran International pioneered the self service check in kiosk back in 2003. The airport also allow off site check-in at 4 other locations.
As far as luggage check in, prior to 9/11 it was done off site as well in hotels but was shutdown after 9/11. It resumed once again around 2006.

BTW how is the airport upgrade at LAX? When will it be done?

Individual airline self service kiosks have been around the airport for years, but yes the common-use kiosks at TBIT are a recent addition. For now, at least two airlines (BA and CX) allow passengers to use those kiosks for check-in.

The upgrade is moving along (thankfully). The Bradley West construction will finish in phases between next year and 2013. The AS-backed Terminal 6 renovations should be finished by early next year.

Except a few old models 737-200 stored by Air Phil NAIA) and Pacific Pearl (Subic), and possibly one or two of them stored iat Clark they disappeared from Philippine airports completely.

For one reason, no more service for them here (LTP) stopped and Singapore sees no reason since 5J doesn´t utilize them.

For another Airbus Marketing Strategies were very aggressive her offering best leasing and purchase conditions.

Anyone else have further reasons I don´t know ?




Fuel and cargo efficiency perhaps. Airbus is leading the way?

I doubt it's fuel efficiency. Because if so, why do many airlines still opt for the 737.

How much does an Airbus A320 cost vis-a-vis with Boeing 737?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11582772/ns/business-us_business/t/airbus-outshines-boeings/

says that the a320 is also a little bit more fuel efficient than the 737 by less than 5 percent. Still, for low cost carriers, is a big deal seeing as these birds fly quite frequently.

^^
:lol: Wla na bang may isasarap pa? :D

Heto pampapayat na pagkain PAL A320 MNL-BCD

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/docdoms/IMG_8585.jpg

sarap!.. :nuts::nuts::nuts:

Heto pampapayat na pagkain PAL A320 MNL-BCD

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/docdoms/IMG_8585.jpg

sarap!.. :nuts::nuts::nuts:

wow health conscious na pala nag pal ngayon:nuts::lol:

Heto pampapayat na pagkain PAL A320 MNL-BCD

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/docdoms/IMG_8585.jpg

sarap!.. :nuts::nuts::nuts:
Emanemanemanemanemanemane, mainit at masarp yan. Bagong luto. Emanemanemanemanemanemane.... :lol:

Trully, the Airbus IS AirBUS. :lol:

Flight to Manila set to take wings
Debasish Mitra
Sat Jun 11 2011 06:50:50

http://www.timesofoman.com/echoice.asp?detail=46165

MUSCAT: Come third quarter of the current year and the Filipinos living in Oman will have new reasons to rejoice, as they celebrate the 113th anniversary of the Declaration of
Philippine Independence.

Oman Air and Philippines Airlines are expected to launch their direct flights between Muscat and Manila latest by September.

Announcing this during an exclusive interview with Times of Oman, Omar M. Pangarungan, office-in-charge of the Philippine embassy in Muscat, said the service was long overdue.

In fact, the maiden flight of the service ought to have taken off in June last year, rued Pangarungan.

Oman and Philippines had signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on December 14, 2009, updating the bilateral Air Service Agreement (ASA) signed way back on October 11, 1992.

The MoU took provisional effect from the very day it was inked designating the maiden flight to take off within six months.
Unavoidable circumstances delayed the launch of the service.

Yet, beaming with optimism, Pangarungan said that the normal service would start soon after the maiden flight takes off the ground.

Looking forward to the launch of the direct flight between Muscat and Manila, Pangarungan said the service would bring in its wake a plethora of benefits to both Oman and Philippines in sectors including tourism, trade, health care and investment.
Cultural exchanges between the two countries, sharing a friendly relation since a very long time, are expected to gain new boost.
The direct flight would benefit the Filipinos in ways more than one, and the foremost will be freedom from the hassles of break journeys.

Bilateral investments
In his enumeration of the benefits of the service, Pangarungan laid stress on the fact that it may open the floodgates of bilateral investments. His outlook on the matter evidently appeared upbeat.

He said there exist multitude of investment opportunities for both Omani and Filipino investors in the Sultanate and Philippines in sectors like energy, health care, shipping,
agriculture, etc.

Besides easing travel, the direct flight will encourage investors from both countries to travel
more frequently.

As Philippines is eager to attract Omani investment, Pangarungan said his country’s exports to Oman have lately shown signs of growing. Philippines, in fact, is one of the major exporters of fruits, processed food, herbal products and electronic items in Oman. To this, Pangarungan added, he would love to see at least two more exquisite and unique produce of Philippines added to the list of products of its exports to the Sultanate — furniture and bamboo products.

Philippine furniture, he said, is one of the best in the world and is so durable that it can be passed on as legacy from generation to generation. Philippines, he said, is one of the largest exporters of furniture in the world. Saudi Arabia, in fact, is the biggest importer of Philippine furniture in the Middle East and the third largest in the world.

Keen on introducing the item in Oman, Pangarungan said that once the direct flight between Muscat and Manila begins, he would certainly facilitate visits of all the major Omani furniture importers to Philippines to showcase the quality and exquisiteness of the furniture Philippine produces.

“I am more than certain that once the Omani importers have had a look and feel of our furniture and bamboo artefacts, they will never resist importing them,” said Pangarungan.

And as both Oman and Philippines wait for the direct flights to begin, connoisseurs in Oman too can look forward to Philippines furniture to adorn their houses.

:D dreaming someday :bash: ...


PHILIPPINE AIRLINES WILL HAVE AN A380 plane :okay: ... sana meron din ang pinas, super laki kasi ang a380 in personal, lalo na yung pag.daan nito CBD :okay: ayus!

Correct, CX885 is more on the around the center of the late-morning/early afternoon rush. You have LA, KE, MU, NH, TN, OZ, and JL flights departing within the hour of CX885.

With regards to the CP, it's one of the closer properties to the airport (just behind the Radisson and Sheraton) which should work well. Be warned, though, that most hotels around the Century Blvd. strip share the same light blue buses so make sure to keep an eye out for one that has "RADISSON/CROWNE PLAZA" listed in the electronic displays. They usually run every 15-30 minutes. You can catch the shuttles at curb under the red sign which will be to your right upon exiting TBIT.


We are eyeing change of plans. CX flights from SFO to HKG are fortunately timed similar to their LAX counterparts. Are the peak times at SFO and LAX for asian departures also the same?

Due to the potential hassles of connecting from a domestic to international flight located at different terminals within 3 hours, we're considering breaking the JFK-(west coast) and (west coast)-HKG legs in such a way that the latter will be reset to the day after. We'll just rest at Crowne Plaza (if LAX) or whatever hotel is closest to SFO (any suggestions?). This is also a concern because the other party may take PR instead and you know that PR's flights leave 2 hours earlier than CX's late night flights on both cities. thanks for the advice on how to catch a shuttle to the LAX hotels.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11582772/ns/business-us_business/t/airbus-outshines-boeings/

says that the a320 is also a little bit more fuel efficient than the 737 by less than 5 percent. Still, for low cost carriers, is a big deal seeing as these birds fly quite frequently.

But the mother of all LCCs, WN is nowhere close to giving-up their 737s.


:D dreaming someday :bash: ...


PHILIPPINE AIRLINES WILL HAVE AN A380 plane :okay: ... sana meron din ang pinas, super laki kasi ang a380 in personal, lalo na yung pag.daan nito CBD :okay: ayus!

They will but how soon is the $1 billion question. They're even having trouble raising money for their next 77W and acquisition of new WBs by PR is at the mercy of the FAA's Cat1 restoration.

But the mother of all LCCs, WN is nowhere close to giving-up their 737s.

They probably got theirs for a low price since 737s are made in the US.

^^

Definitely we can't bring an A380 to MPH, even after it is expanded. I wonder what aircrafts foreign carriers want to charter into it.

[QUOTE=Fraulein;79449388]Flight to Manila set to take wings
Debasish Mitra
Sat Jun 11 2011 06:50:50

http://www.timesofoman.com/echoice.asp?detail=46165

MUSCAT: Come third quarter of the current year and the Filipinos living in Oman will have new reasons to rejoice, as they celebrate the 113th anniversary of the Declaration of
Philippine Independence.

Oman Air and Philippines Airlines are expected to launch their direct flights between Muscat and Manila latest by September.

Announcing this during an exclusive interview with Times of Oman, Omar M. Pangarungan, office-in-charge of the Philippine embassy in Muscat, said the service was long overdue.

In fact, the maiden flight of the service ought to have taken off in June last year, rued Pangarungan.

Oman and Philippines had signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on December 14, 2009, updating the bilateral Air Service Agreement (ASA) signed way back on October 11, 1992.

The MoU took provisional effect from the very day it was inked designating the maiden flight to take off within six months.
Unavoidable circumstances delayed the launch of the service.

Yet, beaming with optimism, Pangarungan said that the normal service would start soon after the maiden flight takes off the ground.

I suppose it will be a code share with Omani Airline A 330 utilization ?

:D dreaming someday :bash: ...


PHILIPPINE AIRLINES WILL HAVE AN A380 plane :okay: ... sana meron din ang pinas, super laki kasi ang a380 in personal, lalo na yung pag.daan nito CBD :okay: ayus!

He hehehehe.....parang you remind me of somebody who is dying to have an A380 at his locality...LOL :lol::lol::lol::lol:

anyway, may substantial pa naman tayong mahahaba at malalaking A330, A340, B777 and B747, and syemps pwedeng dagdagan ang A320's for domestic and regional routes

^^

Definitely we can't bring an A380 to MPH, even after it is expanded. I wonder what aircrafts foreign carriers want to charter into it.

I would rather have MPH having turbo-props...maganda kasi and "touristy" ang dating. If MPH would have its runway lengthened towards the sea maybe some airlines could fly their 737's or A319 on a once-a-day basis. Rio de Janiero is such a busy small airport and could be an example. The airport in Tahiti (?) has a once-a-week B747 flight by Air France...

^^

i AGREE @boy_muscovado.. best for carriers to designate smaller aircrafts for MPH.. Sana pinturahan lang ang bodies ng turboprops w/ tourist attractions of the PHilippines.. Para magka-idea rin ang mga turista, kung anu-ano pa ang mga tourist attractiions ng PINAS!! :)

^^

i AGREE @boy_muscovado.. best for carriers to designate smaller aircrafts for MPH.. Sana pinturahan lang ang bodies ng turboprops w/ tourist attractions of the PHilippines.. Para magka-idea rin ang mga turista, kung anu-ano pa ang mga tourist attractiions ng PINAS!! :)

He hehehe...yep...like what PAL Express and Airphil Express did to their turbo props... clownfishes and seahorses but I hope they add more to it. Para pagkakita mo pa lang ng airplane ma-set na ang vacation mood. Like Cebu pacific did to its DC-9 and B757 before

^^

Yes. I remember those DC-9 days... I remember the first plane fom Cebu Pacific that took its first-ever flight in their Zamboanga operations is a DC-9 with Philippine flag colors design, It arrived Zamboanga airport at 7AM.


Those were the days.. HAHA! :)

^^

Yes. I remember those DC-9 days... I remember the first plane fom Cebu Pacific that took its first-ever flight in their Zamboanga operations is a DC-9 with Philippine flag colors design, It arrived Zamboanga airport at 7AM.


Those were the days.. HAHA! :)

Dito naman sa Bacolod yung DC-9 na "fiesta design" with the palm tree and sun hehehehehe

These ground crew staff knows that their competitors are all on agency basis and PAL is left with direct hire. They know the others have innovated to remain competitive, yet they continue to prolong the inevitable. Innovate or perish. The others that already left knows this and left when they were able to find work alternative rather than hold on and eventually become part of the unemployed population.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/4018/philippine-airlines-to-hire-customer-service-agents

MANILA, Philippines – Philippine Airlines (PAL) said on Monday that it would start hiring workers for ground duty to augment its current workforce, and replace those who resigned over the past few weeks.

In a statement, PAL spokesperson Cielo Villaluna said the flag carrier intends to directly hire 60 Customer Service Agents (CSAs) to man check in counters and other ground duty posts. These new personnel will replace CSAs who either resigned, or were pirated by other airlines abroad.

“To avoid inconvenience to our passengers in terms of longer queues and waiting times, PAL management started processing applications for Customer Service Agents,” she explained.

Contrary to claims by the PAL Employees Association (PALEA), Villaluna said PAL management would not hire people from MacroAsia Corporation. “In fact, the decision to hire directly instead of getting a service provider was even proposed by PALEA officers during a management-union dialogue last week,” she said.

Villaluna explained that the original management proposal was to temporarily engage the services of MacroAsia for six months just to fill the gap. But since the union opposed this, management decided that it would just hire employees directly to end the debate, she said.

Villaluna said the exodus of PAL workers began several weeks ago as a result of the protracted resolution of the outsourcing issue. The Department of Labor and Employment has twice upheld the legality of outsourcing of PAL’s non-core units “as a valid exercise of management prerogative.”

On appeal, Malacanang upheld the labor department’s ruling but the issue remains pending when PALEA filed a motion for reconsideration.

“PAL management is hoping for a speedy resolution of the outsourcing issue. The longer it drags, the more our workers are disenchanted and forced to seek ‘greener pastures.’ Thus, for the sake of our workers who want to peacefully move on, and for the convenience of thousands of passengers, we hope Malacanang would decide ‘with finality’ on the outsourcing issue,” she said.

Lufthansa bets big in Philippines jet servicing
Lufthansa Technik Philippines is building the $30 million hangar, its third at the airport, to accommodate the new trend of larger aircraft.
AFPPublished: 09:13 June 13, 2011

Manila: A hangar the size of two football pitches is rising at Manila airport as the Philippines bids to become one of the world's select few pit stops for the Airbus A380, the world's biggest commercial jet.

Lufthansa Technik Philippines is building the $30 million (Dh110.4 million) hangar, its third at the airport, to accommodate the new trend of larger aircraft, said its sales and marketing vice-president Dominik Wiener-Silva.

"What we're going to see is an increase in the average size of aircraft," he told AFP during a recent interview, adding that the industry overall was on an upswing after a difficult period.

The German firm hopes to cash in on the small group of carriers that have made the first 60 orders for the 275-tonne behemoths but lack their own maintenance facilities.

Only four sites worldwide can currently service the massive jet, which has a wing span of nearly 80 metres. "The Airbus 380 is a very large aircraft but it's not an unusually large aircraft," Wiener-Silva said. "The new hangar will be A380-capable. It will be large enough to have the largest aircraft in the world."

Set to be completed early next year, the new facility ramps up Lufthansa's capital investment in the Philippines to about $130 million, he added. The core business of Lufthansa's Philippine unit is heavy maintenance.

Once every five or six years, jets are grounded for 25 days and are stripped to bare metal to get all their many thousands of individual parts tested for safety. Britain's Virgin Atlantic is its biggest customer, along with the likes of the long-haul budget carrier Air Asia X, Cathay Pacific, Etihad, Japan Airlines, Korean Air, Qantas and Saudi Airlines.

Twenty other airlines also have their line maintenance at Lufthansa's expanding Manila base for Airbus aircraft as well as the ATR 72-500, the short-haul turboprop favoured by many budget airlines.

Line maintenance is a lighter, 24-hour safety check that regulators require once every 18 months. Lufthansa offers other types of services at its 30-plus units around the world, including one in southern China that specialises in thrust reversers and other composite-material components.

"After some very difficult years in 2009 and 2010 we certainly see signs of an upturn," Wiener-Silva said. "Airlines, especially in Asia, are picking up fast. We're actually seeing the strongest growth worldwide in the Middle East and Asia."

Aircraft maintenance accounts for about 10-12 percent of airline operating costs, and the local unit, the largest majority-owned Lufthansa unit outside Germany, has tidy revenues of about $200 million yearly, said Wiener-Silva.

But the 2,700-strong workforce - almost all of whom are Filipinos - is what makes the firm stand out, he said. "In aircraft maintenance you will always encounter the unpredictable. It's not a standard production process and if you look for defects you require solutions," Wiener-Silva said. "Filipinos are really passionate about finding the solution, getting the aircraft fixed and making the customer happy."

Wiener-Silva said the Philippines was unique in the region for its English-speaking population and extensive network of aviation schools that supply Lufthansa's local workforce.

"That is different from other up-and-coming countries like India and China - you won't find that infrastructure," he said. New graduates who go to work for Lufthansa Technik are put through the in-house training school, where they undergo a further 1.5 years of hands-on training before they are entrusted with the multi-million-dollar planes.

The unit sees new business in cabin modification, both for full-service carriers, which are keen on issues such as improving cabin amenities, as well as low-cost operators seeking to improve efficiency, said Wiener-Silva.

"Even a mechanic needs to be able to differentiate between a full-service carrier, where the cabin is the important part of the product... and low-cost carriers, some of which don't even have carpets in their cabins anymore."

More airlines seek approval for fuel surcharge increase



THREE FOREIGN carriers have joined other airlines in seeking government permission to hike their fuel surcharge amid the continued rise in jet fuel costs.
Malaysia Airlines System Berhad, Hong Kong Cathay Pacific Airways, Ltd., and Hong Kong Express Airways have filed separate petitions with the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB), notices from the state agency showed.'



Fuel surcharges are part of ticket prices that allow carriers to cover the cost of rising jet fuel prices, claimed to account for the bulk of airlines’ operating expenses.

According to the International Air Transport Association’s jet fuel price monitor, jet fuel price has reached $131.3 per barrel as of June 3, a 49.9% increase in the same period last year.

Malaysia Airlines System Berhad wants a 23% increase in its fuel surcharge to $43 for first class and business class passengers on flights between the Philippines and Malaysia. For economy class passengers on the same routes, the airline wants a 27% increase in its fuel surcharge to $38.

Cathay Pacific Airways, on the other hand, has asked for a 9% increase in its fuel surcharge to $144.10 for flights between Hong Kong and South West Pacific, North America, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and the South Asian sub-continent.

Hong Kong Express Airways for its part wants a 43% increase in its fuel surcharge to $30.30 for flights between the Philippines and Hong Kong.

Meanwhile, local budget carrier Air Philippines Corp. has filed for a petition to impose a revised fuel surcharge for cargo, a separate bulletin from CAB showed.

Air Philippines asked the regulator to be allowed to impose a P3-per-kilo surcharge for cargo transported between Manila to any point in Luzon and those moved between Cebu to any point in Visayas.

It also sought a P4-per-kilo surcharge for cargo on the Manila to Visayas route and on the Cebu to Mindanao route; and a P6-per-kilo surcharge for cargo moved from Manila to Mindanao. -- Kathleen A. Martin

PAL drops outsourcing plan as gov’t ruling hangs



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PHILIPPINE AIRLINES (PAL) has temporarily dropped plans to tap a contractor to fill vacancies for ground workers as the government has yet to give a final decision on its outsourcing plans.


PHILIPPINE Airlines has shelved plans to outsource 60 ground staff jobs after its labor union protested that the government has yet to give the carrier permission. -- BW file phOtoThe carrier’s operator will instead be directly hiring replacements for some 80 workers that had resigned to work for Singapore-based companies, PAL Spokesperson Cielo C. Villaluna said in a telephone interview.

This, after Philippine Airlines Employees’ Association (PALEA), which consists of more than half of the airline’s ground workers, held a motorcade yesterday to protest PAL’s outsourcing plans.

“PAL will start the process of direct hiring to fill in the vacancies brought about by resignations of ground workers, mostly customer service agents,” Ms. Villaluna said.

The flag carrier will initially hire 60 employees for the 80 vacancies, Ms. Villaluna said.

“Filling the gap is important to ensure the smooth flow of airport operations,” she said.

PAL had initially planned to hire contractual workers through Lucio Tan-led MacroAsia Corp., but dropped the idea after it was rejected by PALEA, Ms. Villaluna said.

“While it is true that management initially broached the idea to utilize MacroAsia workers for six months, this plan was scrapped when PALEA reacted negatively,” Ms. Villaluna said.

“There’s no cause for alarm because we are not outsourcing workers.

We cannot even do that because the issue has not been resolved before the [Office of the President],” Ms. Villaluna added.

PALEA had filed a motion for reconsideration with Malacañang in April in a bid to reverse the Palace and Labor department decisions allowing PAL to tap service providers to absorb the 2,600 workers who will be retrenched.

In a separate telephone interview yesterday, PALEA President Gerardo F. Rivera lauded plans for direct hiring and maintained that management should wait for the issue to be resolved before carrying out any outsourcing programs.

“It’s good if what they’re doing is direct hiring employees. What we’re cautious about is hiring through service providers,” Mr. Rivera said.

“We don’t want to let our guard down. We held a motorcade because we don’t want to allow any entry of service providers as this is already a partial implementation of the outsourcing program,” he added.

Shares in listed PAL Holdings, Inc., the majority shareholder of PAL, closed 0.22% or P0.01 lower at P4.60 apiece yesterday. -- Kathleen A. Martin



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sa news nag resign ang mga customer service agents, di ba sila yung na hired na bagong bpo csr

sa news nag resign ang mga customer service agents, di ba sila yung na hired na bagong bpo csr

LOL WUT?

^^ yung sa SPi Global ata yung tinutukoy niya, may mga CSR kasi ang PAL na nasa SPi Global.

LOL WUT?

oo, may csr agents na ang pal, outsourced, meaning sa isang bpo sila nakipagkonekta sa customer service nila...di ko lang alam kong saang company at saang lugar sa manila:lol:

^^ yung sa SPi Global ata yung tinutukoy niya, may mga CSR kasi ang PAL na nasa SPi Global.

It is not true...

[QUOTE=patlite_boy;79556114]Lufthansa bets big in Philippines jet servicing
Lufthansa Technik Philippines is building the $30 million hangar, its third at the airport, to accommodate the new trend of larger aircraft.
AFPPublished: 09:13 June 13, 2011

Manila: A hangar the size of two football pitches is rising at Manila airport as the Philippines bids to become one of the world's select few pit stops for the Airbus A380, the world's biggest commercial jet.

Lufthansa Technik Philippines is building the $30 million (Dh110.4 million) hangar, its third at the airport, to accommodate the new trend of larger aircraft, said its sales and marketing vice-president Dominik Wiener-Silva.

I wonder where they are putting it up? As far as I can see, there is no further space at the vicinity.

[QUOTE=patlite_boy;79556114]Lufthansa bets big in Philippines jet servicing
Lufthansa Technik Philippines is building the $30 million hangar, its third at the airport, to accommodate the new trend of larger aircraft.
AFPPublished: 09:13 June 13, 2011

Manila: A hangar the size of two football pitches is rising at Manila airport as the Philippines bids to become one of the world's select few pit stops for the Airbus A380, the world's biggest commercial jet.

Lufthansa Technik Philippines is building the $30 million (Dh110.4 million) hangar, its third at the airport, to accommodate the new trend of larger aircraft, said its sales and marketing vice-president Dominik Wiener-Silva.

I wonder where they are putting it up? As far as I can see, there is no further space at the vicinity.

My guess it would be another expansion just left side of LTP current hangar..

With LTP providing maintenance for future A380s, MNL's lone runway capable of handling these behemoths would be very busy and will soon cause bottlenecks in aircraft movements.

the revolution from elitist travel to backpackers affordability really happened through the advent of B747 in 1969. If you want to see how lousy air travel was and how loose airport security was in 1970 Cinemax on Sky 36 is regularly showing Airport 70...




We've still got it good: UK flights used to cost $110,000
June 14, 2011 - 5:32PM

Thumbs up ... we may complain about the cost of flights, but figures show air travel is much cheaper than it used to be.


Airfares along the famous "Kangaroo route" between the UK and Australia are 60 times more affordable today than they were 64 years ago, new figures show.

A comparison by travel company Flight Centre shows the cost of a one-way flight to London in 1947, when Qantas took its first commercial flight to the UK, represented 85 weeks of the average wage.

Today, the typical return fare to London costs around $1800 - less than one-and-a-half weeks of pay for the average worker


The 1947 fare for a four-day flight would cost the equivalent of more than $110,000 in today's dollars, according to Flight Centre.

"Historically, a flight to the UK was a major investment that represented months or even years of savings for the average traveller," Flight Centre's managing director Graham Turner said in a statement.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/weve-still-got-it-good-uk-flights-used-to-cost-110000-20110516-1epmc.html#ixzz1PIz6NrkI

With LTP providing maintenance for future A380s, MNL's lone runway capable of handling these behemoths would be very busy and will soon cause bottlenecks in aircraft movements.
For this months Airliner World Magazine; Barbados joins the Philippines in Category 2!
Atlanta is tops in passenger and aircraft movement! While HK takes all the cargo!. I kept looking for Manila and thought it was there because it looks like Miami when you read the small text at a glance.

Are the peak times at SFO and LAX for asian departures also the same?


For the most part.


...or whatever hotel is closest to SFO (any suggestions?).

In descending order of preference, I've only stayed at the Westin, Sheraton/Hilton, Four Points, and Holiday Inn Airport South. Have had friends that love the Hyatt as well. Unlike at LAX, though, you'll have to head up to the departure level and wait to the center island between the two streets in order to catch your hotel shuttle.

With LTP providing maintenance for future A380s, MNL's lone runway capable of handling these behemoths would be very busy and will soon cause bottlenecks in aircraft movements.

Are you kidding ?? It is not like a dozen A380s landing every day ?? And they are not gonna haul in pax .. or am I missing something ??? :( :(

As it is, despite all the huff and puff, MNL has ample capactiy to stagger the A380s ..

And in terms of Wake turbulence, an A380 is not much off from a 747 .. so what gives ???

http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/press/2011/06162011b.html

CEB doubles fleet again with new USD3.8B Airbus Deal

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) announced today that it has ordered 30 new Airbus A321neo and 7 A320 aircraft. The order at list price is valued at approximately USD3.8 billion, the largest single aircraft order ever made by a Philippine carrier.

CEB turned into firm orders its existing options for 7 Airbus A320 aircraft, and has placed a new order for thirty (30) A321neo (New Engine Option) aircraft with options for a further ten (10) A321neos. The A321neos will be a first of its type to operate in the Philippines, being a larger and longer-haul version of the familiar Airbus A320.

The said orders for A320 and A321neo aircraft will be delivered between 2015 and 2021. These are on top of firm orders for 18 Airbus A320 aircraft to be delivered from the 2nd half of 2011 until 2014. This increases Cebu Pacific’s total firm orders of Airbus aircraft to 55.

“Cebu Pacific has made the largest firm order for the Airbus A321neo aircraft in the world. These 220-seater aircraft will be a real ‘game changer’ for Cebu Pacific because the A321neo will have a much longer range. We will be able to serve cities in Australia, India and Northern Japan, places the A320 cannot reach,” said CEB CEO and President Lance Gokongwei.

“The aircraft will reduce our unit cost per seat to a level that cannot be achieved flying A320s. This means that Cebu Pacific will be able to offer even lower fares to our guests and be much more competitive with anyone flying less cost efficient aircraft. This will allow us to create highly skilled, highly paid airline jobs for Filipino pilots, cabin crew and airline staff,” added Gokongwei.

Cebu Pacific currently utilizes 33 brand-new aircraft, 25 of which are from the Airbus A320 family and 8 ATR turbo-prop aircraft. By 2021, CEB will more than double its fleet and triple its capacity.

John Leahy, Airbus Chief Operating Officer, Customers, said, "With the A321neo, Cebu Pacific will be able to fly more people further at significantly lower cost per seat than any other competing aircraft, and with less impact on the environment."

The A321neo is the largest model in the recently launched A320neo series. It incorporates new engines and large wing-tip devices called sharklets, allowing CEB to achieve 15% reduced fuel burn, and function on a lower operating cost.

The new engine types offered on the A320neo are CFM International’s LEAP-X and Pratt & Whitney’s PurePower PW1100G. Cebu Pacific has not made an engine choice at this time.

Since its inception in 1996, the Philippines’ low-fare pioneer, CEB, had already flown 50 million passengers and counting. It broke local aviation records for passengers carried in a month in April and May of 2011, carrying more than 1 million passengers per month.

This year, CEB will carry more than 12 million passengers. It achieved a year-on-year growth of 19% in 2010.

^ related article, this time from The Philippine Daily Inquirer..

link: http://business.inquirer.net/4368/cebu-pacific-buys-37-airbus-jets-worth-3-8b

Cebu Pacific buys 37 Airbus jets worth $3.8B
Agence France-Presse
1:52 pm | Thursday, June 16th, 2011

MANILA, Philippines —Budget carrier Cebu Pacific announced Thursday it had ordered 37 new Airbus jets worth $3.8 billion as part of its ambitious plans to expand operations across the Asia Pacific.

Cebu Pacific chief executive Lance Gokongwei told a news conference his company had ordered 30 Airbus A321neo jets and seven A320 aircraft, to be delivered between 2015 and 2021.

He said the airline also had another option for 10 more A321neo jets, which can carry more people and fly longer distances than the A320s that currently dominate Cebu Pacific’s fleet.

“These 220-seater aircraft will be a game changer for Cebu Pacific,” Gokongwei said.

“We will be able to serve cities in Australia, India and northern Japan, places the A320 cannot reach.”

Cebu Pacific is already the number one airline in the Philippines in terms of passenger numbers, having expanded rapidly in recent years to overtake national carrier Philippine Airlines.

In October last year it raised P23.3 billion ($540 million) in the country’s biggest initial public offering in dollar terms to help fund its expansion plans.

Cebu Pacific currently flies to more than 30 destinations within the Philippines and 15 in Asia.

Gokongwei said Cebu Pacific was aiming to see passenger numbers in its domestic operations grow 10-15 percent a year, with an even more ambitious target of 25-percent annual growth for its international division.

I wonder why Cebu Pacific seems to have no interest in adding A330/40 on their fleets atleast. They can use these on their Asian regional services like Japan and Korea. I guess A321 is a good move also.

CebuPac is buying the Airbus Neo

I am just impressed by the continuing growth of 5J. From virtually nothing in the mid-2000s to the Philippine's largest carrier in 2011. :D

[QUOTE=kyril;79721976]http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/press/2011/06162011b.html

CEB doubles fleet again with new USD3.8B Airbus Deal

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) announced today that it has ordered 30 new Airbus A321neo and 7 A320 aircraft. The order at list price is valued at approximately USD3.8 billion, the largest single aircraft order ever made by a Philippine carrier.

CEB turned into firm orders its existing options for 7 Airbus A320 aircraft, and has placed a new order for thirty (30) A321neo (New Engine Option) aircraft with options for a further ten (10) A321neos. The A321neos will be a first of its type to operate in the Philippines, being a larger and longer-haul version of the familiar Airbus A320.

The said orders for A320 and A321neo aircraft will be delivered between 2015 and 2021.

Latest then Clark must be ready ! NAIA will desperately be overloaded....

^ Probably.. baka stretched to its breaking point na ang NAIA by 2015, unless maging 100% operational ang T3.

^ Probably.. baka stretched to its breaking point na ang NAIA by 2015, unless maging 100% operational ang T3.

No way. Doubling 5Js capacity means going somewhat from 10.4 to 20.8 million passengers within the delivery time of the new busses.

Overall passenger traffic will grow much more, considering expansion plans of APX, PAL, Zest, and other foreign airlines.

As of now all NAIA terminals except T3 are running at least at 80 % capacity. T3 at 60 % by end of this year. Take that more airlines will change from T1 to T3, you have an overhang of I would say of at least 5 - 10 million passengers maching through all terminals by 2020.

NAIA will be more than a sardine can. DMIA simply has to be updated quickly !

^ yep. kaya nga breaking point by 2015 eh. Did some reading in the MIAA website.

2010 Figures

T1: Design Capacity: 6 Million Passengers
T1: Actual Number of Passengers, 2010: 7.3 Million Passengers

T2: Design Capacity: 9 Million Passengers
T2: Actual Number of Passenges, 2010: 8.87 Million Passengers

T3: Design Capacity: 13 Million Passengers
T3: Actual Number of Passengers, 2010: 9.53 Million Passengers

T4 (Domestic): Actual Number of Passengers, 2010: 1.381 Million Passengers

Total NAIA, 2010: 27.089 Million Passengers

I wonder why Cebu Pacific seems to have no interest in adding A330/40 on their fleets atleast. They can use these on their Asian regional services like Japan and Korea. I guess A321 is a good move also.

Its simple, its easier to fill a narrow body jets like A320 series compare to a wide body A330/A340..
Business wise, mas malaking tipid sa maintenance, re-training cost, landing fees at fuel savings sa narrowbody. As for the space in MNL? 5J would simply keep their birds flying. I won't be surprise na baka every two hours a day may flights na MNL-CEB, MNL-HKG, MNL-DVO.

All LCC operate in that way.. Keep the planes off the ground and always use younger planes..

Probably the Best in the Philippines
datrekker, 4/14/2011
http://thump01.pbase.com/g6/84/532884/3/81908269.9QHi3cOn.jpg

PROS: Modern, comfortable, smooth access road, nice view of countryside

CONS: Rather small check-in area

Iloilo International Airport (ILO) is, at the moment, probably the best-looking and most efficient airport in the Philippines. Located about 19 kilometers from the center of Iloilo City, ILO can be accessed by a smooth 4-lane highway from the city up to the town of Sta. Barbara, and by a landscaped access road from there, up to the terminal.

Parking is not a problem as there are enough slots for everyone. The cavernous outside waiting area may not be air-conditioned, but it is breezy, as ILO is located amidst lush vegetation amongst the plains and rolling hills.

The check-in area is a bit small, but it is efficient. The ILO terminal is a modern building made of glass and steel. It has pocket gardens inside and outside, and has all the facilities of a world-class airport terminal. Most of all, it is ably served by a courteous staff.

Ten minutes after checking in, you will be comfortably seated in the departure lounge, enjoying the bucolic and soothing view, while sipping your hot brew.

Its simple, its easier to fill a narrow body jets like A320 series compare to a wide body A330/A340..
Business wise, mas malaking tipid sa maintenance, re-training cost, landing fees at fuel savings sa narrowbody. As for the space in MNL? 5J would simply keep their birds flying. I won't be surprise na baka every two hours a day may flights na MNL-CEB, MNL-HKG, MNL-DVO.

All LCC operate in that way.. Keep the planes off the ground and always use younger planes..

which makes the planes last longer...make them fly more.
but still we wish that day will come when 5J will operate not only narrowbodies.
perhaps start with A330.

It appears that the A321NEO orders are MOU (Memorandum of Understanding).


http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-events-single/detail/cebu-pacific-to-order-30-a321neo-aircraft/

Cebu Pacific to order 30 A321neo aircraft

Low cost carrier also exercises options for seven more A320s

Cebu Pacific of the Philippines has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Airbus for the purchase of 30 A321neo aircraft. The carrier has also exercised existing options for seven more standard A320s, increasing to 41 its total firm orders for the Airbus single aisle product line. The aircraft will join an existing fleet of A319s and A320s flying on the carrier's fast growing domestic and regional network.

"The A320 Family has played a key role in enabling us to build an efficient, profitable, value-based business," said Lance Gokongwei, Cebu Pacific President and CEO. "The addition of more A320s and the A321neo allows us to expand further in the Asia-Pacific region, and continue offering our trademark low fares."

Cebu Pacific's extensive network covers 33 domestic and 16 international destinations, including Osaka, Seoul (Incheon), Beijing, Jakarta, Bangkok and Singapore.

"We are pleased that Cebu Pacific has reaffirmed its commitment to the A320 Family and is also now set to add the A321neo to its fleet," said John Leahy, Chief Operating Officer, Customers, Airbus. "With the A321neo Cebu Pacific will be able to fly more people further at significantly lower cost per seat than any other competing aircraft, and with less impact on the environment."

The A321neo is the largest model in the recently launched A320neo series, which incorporates new engines and large wing tip devices called sharklets. The advances will deliver fuel savings of 15 percent and additional range capability of over 500 nautical miles (950 kilometers), or the ability to carry two tonnes more payload at a given range. For the environment, the fuel savings translate into some 3,600 tonnes less CO2 per aircraft per year. In addition, the aircraft will provide a double-digit reduction in NOx emissions and reduced engine noise.

The A320 Family (A318, A319, A320 and A321) is recognised as the benchmark single-aisle aircraft family. Over 7,000 A320 Family aircraft have already been ordered and more than 4,700 delivered to more than 330 customers and operators worldwide. The A320neo series will have over 95% airframe commonality with the existing models, enabling it to fit seamlessly into existing A320 Family fleets

The new engines types offered on the A320neo Family are CFM International’s LEAP-X and Pratt & Whitney’s PurePower PW1100G.

i am not really a big fan of CEB but i am amazed at how they managed their growth. And that news article somehow speaks of their plans of flying to Australia and other farther destinations. Hope they grow bigger and more successful.

Also, explore cities such as Denpasar (Bali) and Hanoi, Vietnam.

[QUOTE=kyril;79721976]http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/press/2011/06162011b.html

CEB doubles fleet again with new USD3.8B Airbus Deal

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) announced today that it has ordered 30 new Airbus A321neo and 7 A320 aircraft. The order at list price is valued at approximately USD3.8 billion, the largest single aircraft order ever made by a Philippine carrier.

CEB turned into firm orders its existing options for 7 Airbus A320 aircraft, and has placed a new order for thirty (30) A321neo (New Engine Option) aircraft with options for a further ten (10) A321neos. The A321neos will be a first of its type to operate in the Philippines, being a larger and longer-haul version of the familiar Airbus A320.

The said orders for A320 and A321neo aircraft will be delivered between 2015 and 2021.

Latest then Clark must be ready ! NAIA will desperately be overloaded....

Unless they decide to do away with MNL as their hub and introduce more point-to-point flights not involving major cities.

^ Successful execution of a proven business model (LCC) plus really good fortune (took advantage of the disarray in (and dissatisfaction) with PAL). :D

^ Successful execution of a proven business model (LCC) plus really good fortune (took advantage of the disarray in (and dissatisfaction) with PAL). :D

I beg to disagree on that "fortune" thing! Things did not unfold quickly as in zipping a fly, that's proof. PAL's problem is it's own doing. CEB was just looking and weighing on its moves and decided swiftly on every turn of events. That, I think is no luck but darn hard and decisive prowess of Gokongwei's. Lance won over Mr. John, I guess.

^ kaya nga good fortune eh. 5J did not cause the disarray in PAL but it sure did take advantage of that disarray. Ngayong, nai-ayos na ng konti ni Mr. Tan yung model nila with Air Philippines, I don't think 5J will have an easier time compared to before.

hope I will have Lance Gokongwei's brain prowess in business expertise when I build my company too, soon! :cheers:

^ Yes, full credit to the Gokongweis for 5J's success. I am glad that we have a 5J who can order all these billion dolllars worth of aircraft. Wasn't it just last year when they announced they were increasing their A320 firm orders? :D

^^ Seriously! Except for Sun, I supposed?! :naughty:

^^ Seriously! Except for Sun, I supposed?! :naughty:

That's a strength in men I see on that Sun thing! You don't fight when it's futile fighting. He sold when when an offer came. I believe Sun was not sold at a loss, don't you all agree?

wow they ordered A321neo? can't wait to see that. nice...

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Unless they decide to do away with MNL as their hub and introduce more point-to-point flights not involving major cities.

kaya siguro pinagbili nila yong sun cellular:ohno::ohno:

It is actually a good move, why stay on a sinking ship (technically though, sun is doing good but not best in terms of revenue). Some said they sold Sun to build fund a buy PAL BUT I guess they want to take PAL head-on then, no responsibility or acquisition just finish the competition.

CEB starts Manila-Busan flights, offers lowest fare among carriers
By EMMIE V. ABADILLA
June 17, 2011, 2:22am

MANILA, Philippines — Cebu Pacific (CEB), the Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, launched its 24th international route – Manila to Busan, South Korea – on Wednesday with the maiden flight taking off Manila at 4:15 p.m. and arriving in Busan at 8:40 p.m.

“CEB offers the lowest fare from the Philippines to Busan, South Korea’s 2nd largest city. We are very optimistic about our Busan operations, especially since this is our fourth route to South Korea,” announced CEB VP for Marketing and Distribution Candice Iyog. “We can see that the market for Cebu Pacific flights can really be stimulated by our trademark low fares.

CEB operates its Busan-Manila flights every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday, for the lowest year-round fare of P4,099 (plus taxes) one way. The airline’s fares to Incheon and Busan are only one-fifth the fares of other Philippine carriers, and one-fourth those of foreign airlines.

It also flies four times weekly from Busan to Cebu, twice daily from Incheon to Manila and daily from Incheon to Cebu.

“Our low-cost carrier model offers high-quality and low-cost travel to anyone who wishes to visit Busan’s famous Haeundae Beach or drop by the renowned Busan International Film Festival. Other tourist attractions in the city are Mt. Geumjeong, Busan Aquarium and the Busan Tower, which form the backdrop of several Korean films and shows,” she added.

Ambassador Lee Hye Min of the Republic of South Korea, Department of Tourism Secretary Alberto Lim and MIAA Senior Assistant General Manager Antonio Bautista sent off CEB’s first passengers from Manila to Busan.

“We are grateful for the support of the different government offices which have helped promote our flights to and from South Korea, and we hope to serve even more passengers through our new four times weekly flights from Manila to Busan,” according to Iyog.

CEB currently operates 10 Airbus A319, 15 Airbus A320 and 8 ATR-72 500 aircraft. By the end of 2011, CEB will be operating a fleet of 37 aircraft “with an average age of less than 3.5 years” one of the most modern aircraft fleets in the world. Between 2012 and 2014, Cebu Pacific will take an additional 16 Airbus A320 aircraft.

source: http//:www.mb.com.ph/articles/323014/ceb-starts-manilabusan-flights-offers-lowest-fare-among-carriers

Etihad Airways assists in repatriation of OFWs from Saudi Arabia
June 17, 2011, 2:26am

MANILA, Philippines — Etihad Airways, the national airline of the United Arab Emirates, has been assisting the Philippine government with the repatriation of hundreds of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

A big group of 241 Filipino returnees arrived at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 1 on June 7 on board Etihad Airways, 47 Filipinos on June 9, and 26 OFWs on June 14, also on board Etihad Airways, or a total of 314 Filipinos, including children and infants.

The repatriation of the OFWs and their families followed talks between Etihad Airways Chief Executive Officer James Hogan and Vice President Jejomar ‘‘Jojo’’ Binay during the former’s visit to the Philippines recently, and came after the Vice President, who is also the Presidential Adviser on Overseas Filipino Workers’ Affairs, secured the returnees’ repatriation from Saudi authorities.

Hogan said Etihad Airways was pleased to lend its support to such an important humanitarian cause.

“We’re honored to have been invited by the Philippine government to assist with the return of the Filipino workers and their families. These flights are the first of several flights we have committed to in support of the government’s repatriation efforts,” Hogan said.

He said what made the homecoming last June 7 wherein a big batch of OFWs and their children was flown even more significant was that it coincided with national celebrations in the Philippines of Migrant Workers Day.

In an earlier press statement referring to Etihad’s participation in the repatriation, the Vice President said: "I am glad that the private sector is helping us bring our ‘kababayans’ home. I hope we would see more of this partnership in our future repatriation efforts."

Roberto Hukom, Gulf Air Philippines country manager; Connie Marquez, Overseas Workers Welfare Administration (OWWA) Repatriation head; and other government officials were on hand to welcome and assist the arriving OFWs and their children last June 7.

Last May, Etihad Airways also helped in bringing back several repatriated OFWs and their children from Saudi Arabia.

Etihad Airways is the national airline of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and operates from its home base and hub in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the UAE. It serves 68 cities in the Middle East, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia and North America with a modern fleet of 57 Airbus and Boeing aircraft. Etihad has also a code-share partnership with Philippine Airlines (PAL).

source: http//:www.mb.com.ph/articles/323017/etihad-airways-assists-repatriation-ofws-saudi-arabia

From Airbus (http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-events-single/detail/cebu-pacific-to-order-30-a321neo-aircraft/)
http://www.airbus.com/typo3temp/pics/21c4f501f1.jpg

ILO, Probably the Best in the Philippines (http://www.sleepinginairports.com/list.asp?s=&act=1&did=7379)

PROS: Modern, comfortable, smooth access road, nice view of countryside
CONS: Rather small check-in area

Iloilo International Airport (ILO) is, at the moment, probably the best-looking and most efficient airport in the Philippines. Located about 19 kilometers from the center of Iloilo City, ILO can be accessed by a smooth 4-lane highway from the city up to the town of Sta. Barbara, and by a landscaped access road from there, up to the terminal...

Read more (http://www.sleepinginairports.com/list.asp?s=&act=1&did=7379).

From Airbus (http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-events-single/detail/cebu-pacific-to-order-30-a321neo-aircraft/)
http://www.airbus.com/typo3temp/pics/21c4f501f1.jpg

from what i remember, the B757 was the A321's rival...so this is probably going to do the same work as what 5J's 757s did before....i think.

btw, that winglet reminds me more of 737NGs/CRJs...big winglets are the new trend today :nuts:

From Airbus (http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-events-single/detail/cebu-pacific-to-order-30-a321neo-aircraft/)
http://www.airbus.com/typo3temp/pics/21c4f501f1.jpg

would it still be profitable for PAL if they get this type of aircraft for airports currently served by A320s, like Iloilo, Bacolod, CDO (Lumbia or soon in Laguindingan), Zamboanga, instead of using A319s/A320s?

from what i remember, the B757 was the A321's rival...so this is probably going to do the same work as what 5J's 757s did before....i think.

btw, that winglet reminds me more of 737NGs/CRJs...big winglets are the new trend today :nuts:

^^Saves on fuel and produces less wake turbulence if im not mistaken

Airbus 321
http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a320family/a321/

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/classify/aircraft_galleries/a320_gallery/A321IN_1.JPG

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/classify/aircraft_galleries/a320_gallery/A320_Cabin_IFE_HG_08.jpg

Hopefully 5J will have the individual screen for each passenger seats.

That will never happen. 5J is an LCC

From Airbus (http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-events-single/detail/cebu-pacific-to-order-30-a321neo-aircraft/)
http://www.airbus.com/typo3temp/pics/21c4f501f1.jpg

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

That will never happen. 5J is an LCC

yes, totally agree.:okay:

ILO, Probably the Best in the Philippines (http://www.sleepinginairports.com/list.asp?s=&act=1&did=7379)

PROS: Modern, comfortable, smooth access road, nice view of countryside
CONS: Rather small check-in area

Iloilo International Airport (ILO) is, at the moment, probably the best-looking and most efficient airport in the Philippines. Located about 19 kilometers from the center of Iloilo City, ILO can be accessed by a smooth 4-lane highway from the city up to the town of Sta. Barbara, and by a landscaped access road from there, up to the terminal...

Read more (http://www.sleepinginairports.com/list.asp?s=&act=1&did=7379).

Not probably but definitely THE best.

That will never happen. 5J is an LCC

To add to that, in fact, AK removed their IFE from their A332s and A343s.

a321neo is still in the making, will be rolled out on 2015, but the a320neos are already in production as of today.

http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a320family/a321/

from what i remember, the B757 was the A321's rival...so this is probably going to do the same work as what 5J's 757s did before....i think.

btw, that winglet reminds me more of 737NGs/CRJs...big winglets are the new trend today :nuts:
This Neo is just a stop gap measure by Airbus to counter the advance of Bombardiers Cseries aircraft in the market. Boeing on the other hand still contends their 737 NG series is still more cost effective though they feel threatened by Bombardier just the same in the narrow aisle category since the Cseries would only be the brand new model from North America.

Boeing has not made a decision yet whether to build a new jet

That will never happen. 5J is an LCC

oh really now!???

then why AIRASIA has????

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_05AEYCz2EIs/SwlG_rHLvmI/AAAAAAAAE84/8IJUdcx9dj4/s1600/air+asia+X+premium+promo.jpg

Asian budget carriers spread wings as demand surges


By: Philip Lim
Agence France-Presse
1:05 pm | Friday, June 17th, 2011






SINGAPORE– Multi-billion dollar orders for more than 100 new planes this week underscored the difference between the thriving budget airline sector in Asia-Pacific and the gloom-hit global aviation industry.


India’s GoAir and Cebu Pacific of the Philippines on Thursday said they had each signed deals with European plane-maker Airbus that would see them massively boost their fleets.
“A low-cost carrier boom is undoubtedly taking place in Asia-Pacific,” said Daniel Tsang, chief analyst of Hong Kong-based aviation consultancy Aspire Aviation.

“Low cost carriers could easily capture up to half of air travel within the next 20 years or so, which is, quite frankly, a conservative figure,” said Tsang.

The International Air Transport Association, which represents 230 carriers that account for more than 90 percent of worldwide scheduled air traffic, but excludes many budget operations, has halved its 2011 profit forecast for the world airline industry to $4 billion.

The figure, which would represent a 78 percent fall on profits last year, reflects the challenges posed to the industry by the March tsunami in Japan, unrest in the Middle East and North Africa and high oil prices.

But Asia-Pacific budget carriers appear unfazed and have continued to ramp up their service.

GoAir said it had placed an order for 72 new A320 Airbus aircraft in a deal worth up to $7.2 billion at list prices, while Cebu Pacific announced it had ordered 37 new Airbus jets worth an estimated $3.8 billion.


Industry players expect Malaysia’s AirAsia, which sparked the growth of budget travel in the region, to ink a new deal with Airbus for up to 200 aircraft at next week’s Paris Air Show.


US plane maker Boeing on Thursday hiked its 20-year forecast for the size of the global commercial aircraft market by eight percent to 33,500 planes worth $4.0 trillion, with the Asia-Pacific region accounting for a third of sales.

AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes said in May that he may boost the firm’s Airbus fleet five-fold to 500 as more people in the region demand cheaper flights.
“We have 600 million people just in ASEAN,” he said, referring to the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

India and China, which are already served by budget carriers from ASEAN cities, have a combined population of two-and-a-half billion.
Rapid economic growth in ASEAN, China and India, coupled with falling air fares means millions more can now fly rather than travel by land or sea compared to the pre-budget airline era.
“The exponential growth for low-cost carriers in Asia-Pacific is supported by emerging economies and their citizens’ soaring income,” Tsang said.

The European and US markets, by contrast, are facing “sluggish economic recoveries and cautious consumers,” he added.

The boom in budget travel has prompted more established airlines to explore the no-frills market as well.

Singapore Airlines, a leader in premium travel, announced in May that it will launch within one year a no-frills brand that will fly on medium- to long-haul destinations — an indication it could fly as far as Europe.

“Legacy carriers previously did not do a good job of developing and taking advantage of the rising demand for leisure and cheap travel as well as leveraging on the significant change that the Internet introduced to the consumer,” said Singapore-based Standard & Poor’s analyst Shukor Yusof.

AirAsia’s long-haul arm, AirAsia X, already flies to 15 destinations including London, Taipei, Tehran, Paris, Seoul, Tokyo, Christchurch in New Zealand and several cities in Australia, China and India.

Brendan Sobie, Southeast Asia specialist at aviation intelligence firm Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, said established names like Singapore Airlines have realized they can no longer bank on their current clients for growth.

“As low-cost carriers continue to grow more rapidly than full service carriers, we expect low-cost carriers to continue growing their share of the market by roughly two percentage points per annum,” he said.

It’s not only the Asian middle class that benefits from the boom in low-cost carriers, which are able to slash fares by cutting out in-flight entertainment, using cheaper airports and charging for food and amenities.

Filipino domestic worker Nida Jumawan, 49, told AFP she had no wish to return to the old days when ferries were the only affordable means of transport between the Philippines’ far-flung islands.

She said the plane fare from Manila to her hometown of Pagadian in the southern Philippines, could drop to as low as 800 pesos ($18.35) compared with the ferry fee of about 3,000 pesos.

“Flying is much easier compared to ferries. It is terrifying at sea when you are caught up in a typhoon — you can’t sleep, you get dizzy and you throw up,” Jumawan said.

oh really now!???

then why AIRASIA has????

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_05AEYCz2EIs/SwlG_rHLvmI/AAAAAAAAE84/8IJUdcx9dj4/s1600/air+asia+X+premium+promo.jpg

This is Air Asia X..
Do you think passengers would take a flight without any IFE and amenities from KUL-STN and ORY?

Korean Air. I will take this flight kahit Seoul lang. :okay:

http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/img/news/a380_ny_eng.jpg

http://www.koreanair.com/

Korean Air. I will take this flight kahit Seoul lang. :okay:

http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/img/news/a380_ny_eng.jpg


^^
ICN to JFK w/ travel time of 55 mins only? hmmm....

^^ that's the local time of course.

but finally a chance for OFWs connecting to ICN from the US to get a taste of A380! :)
i don't mind if the ICN-MNL sector will be a triple 7.

oh really now!???

then why AIRASIA has????




To add to that, in fact, AK removed their IFE from their A332s and A343s.

Yep, D7 removed the PTVs when they reconfigured the fleet (http://blog.airasia.com/index.php/finally-new-seats-for-airasia-x-includin). They do nowadays offer personal media players for rent (http://www.airasia.com/my/en/flightinfo/aaxife.html) on the long haul flights.

oh really now!???

then why AIRASIA has????



Not the air Asia planes that i took. That's probably Air Asia x

Re: cebpac's expansion plans. Though the Neo is still slated for 2015, when 2015 comes along and the new planes will be utilized by cebpac, how will our terminals handle the additional planes? Aren't the manila airports near or already over capacity now? Cebu is already over capacity, and the expansion cebu is doing will easily reach capacity even before 2015 comes along.

CEB will just have to build it's own terminal. :)))))

Sana yung Emirates matuloy yung flight nila sa Manila using A380. :)

YAN ANG MAGANDA

Ano kaya no. If in the future, to augment revenue, CEB will install PTVs on selected seats (not all seats) and then sell those seats at a higher price. That way, they do not have to spend a lot by installing PTVs in all seats. They can start with 20% of the available seats at kung malaki ang demand, di dagdagan na lang nila ang pag install. Subukan lang nila.

This is Air Asia X..
Do you think passengers would take a flight without any IFE and amenities from KUL-STN and ORY?

D7 is also gradually dismantling seat-back IFE from their long-hauls. The only way you're going to get it is by renting a portable set. Look here:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/AirAsia-X/Airbus-A340-313X/1789569/&sid=62ce6a9573f587c1e6c77905e0de0c64

Sana yung Emirates matuloy yung flight nila sa Manila using A380. :)

Qantas at SQ rin! para masaya! :banana:

^^Sana nga pero ito pa lang yung nagbabalak na bumiyahe pa-MNL using A380:

Emirates
Etihad
Korean
Qatar

This is Air Asia X..
Do you think passengers would take a flight without any IFE and amenities from KUL-STN and ORY?

AIRASIA X is the ONLY LOW COST Medium to Long Haul Flight Carrier in this region, FYI!

Sisingit ka na lang, hindi mo naman alam kung anong pinagmulan ng argumento! :lol:

Also why not? This is "budget airline" dear! Please think.

Its simple, its easier to fill a narrow body jets like A320 series compare to a wide body A330/A340..
Business wise, mas malaking tipid sa maintenance, re-training cost, landing fees at fuel savings sa narrowbody. As for the space in MNL? 5J would simply keep their birds flying. I won't be surprise na baka every two hours a day may flights na MNL-CEB, MNL-HKG, MNL-DVO.

All LCC operate in that way.. Keep the planes off the ground and always use younger planes..

When it comes to maintenance, all airbus with the exception of A380, it's pretty much the same, there is no extra retraining cost on all airbus fleets unlike Boeing aircrafts. I am not sure why A330/340 would be hard to fill since 5J is booming, the only thing that may differ probably is the fuel cost but that would also depend on what engines they used for instance in A330, not so much with A340. All airbus fleets are run by fly-by-wire technology that was perfected recently and made them very competitive with Boeing aircrafts or technology. From my understanding, even Boeing aircrafts are not being kept on the ground that long, they constantly fly so thats not just an LCC tactic. Southwest airlines for instance utilized B737 on their fleets and has since proven to be worthwhile for their operational cost. Southwest airlines has proven its tract of record when it comes to safety ever since they started their operation so that really doesn't prove that using younger planes to be more effective for all LCCs, infact allegiant air has been using the old MD80 which might change sometime since they were considering B767.

haha... excuses, excuses, excuses... :lol:

Regardless if it's AirAsia OR AirAsia X, the POINT in your argument earlier is LCC ALSO can have entertainment facilities onboard as opposed to your "assumption".

:cheers:

Trouble there is that AirAsia offers service package that are not inclusive to their airfare, all other amenities are for extra fee. just as food and drink you have to buy, so, the inflight entertainment, even if they have avod or not, I guess if you didnt buy it, you'd have to stretch your neck a little bit longer to see over the other chair or seat next to you but you won't hear what they are saying, the ones infront of you won't be turned on from my understanding, so, technically. They do offer amenities but it comes with price. Thats a bit tricky though because in a long haul flight, you would still have to buy food and such, in your ticket it appears you saved alot but if you add up, you paid pretty much almost the same with legacy carriers unless you're really a stickler that you're willing to tighten your belt and suck in your gut, then close your eyes..:lol::lol::lol: You've got to realize that legacy carriers make most of their profits from premium passengers like the highroller, which is what the Emirates, Cathy and other number one Legacy carriers are all catering for. PAL does not enjoy a great number or premium passengers, even Delta Airlines servicing MNL profits per bulk, but look at those other carriers who use to serve MNL? They all pulled out of MNL because of this same reason. 5J is definitely making it big, but that is due to the cheaper domestic airfare. Pinoys who wanted to experience international travel usually goes to LCCs rather than legacy carriers. My point is as much as AirAsia is coming around with a big roar, they still have to prove their worth in long haul travel. With short haul service? There is no doubt that they have the winning price...

Take note: AirAsia is moving away with inflight entertainments seats, replacing it with a portable media player....

http://blog.airasia.com/index.php/entertainment-onboard-long-haul-flights

Trouble there is that AirAsia offers service package that are not inclusive to their airfare, all other amenities are for extra fee. just as food and drink you have to buy, so, the inflight entertainment, even if they have avod or not, I guess if you didnt buy it, you'd have to stretch your neck a little bit longer to see over the other chair or seat next to you but you won't hear what they are saying, the ones infront of you won't be turned on from my understanding, so, technically. They do offer amenities but it comes with price. Thats a bit tricky though because in a long haul flight, you would still have to buy food and such, in your ticket it appears you saved alot but if you add up, you paid pretty much almost the same with legacy carriers unless you're really a stickler that you're willing to tighten your belt and suck in your gut, then close your eyes..:lol::lol::lol: You've got to realize that legacy carriers make most of their profits from premium passengers like the highroller, which is what the Emirates, Cathy and other number one Legacy carriers are all catering for. PAL does not enjoy a great number or premium passengers, even Delta Airlines servicing MNL profits per bulk, but look at those other carriers who use to serve MNL? They all pulled out of MNL because of this same reason. 5J is definitely making it big, but that is due to the cheaper domestic airfare. Pinoys who wanted to experience international travel usually goes to LCCs rather than legacy carriers. My point is as much as AirAsia is coming around with a big roar, they still have to prove their worth in long haul travel. With short haul service? There is no doubt that they have the winning price...

that's why budget airlines are also known as "no-frills" airline :cheers:

people, you don't have to worry. cebu pacific has the most ingenious entertainment in the skies: INFLIGHT GAMES! :D

Sana nga pero ito pa lang yung nagbabalak na bumiyahe pa-MNL using A380:

Emirates
Etihad
Korean
Qatar

out of the 4, only KE ang EK (KE and EK! haha, binaliktad? :) ) is operating 380's at the moment. and both of them have a plausible reason to send the 380's to MNL.

Emirates: long haul (but can they fill the 380?)
Korean: dinadagsa na ng mga koreano ang Pinas!

that's why budget airlines are also known as "no-frills" airline :cheers:

The point is???

Is why I said, technically, the price of AirAsia LLC wouldn't be as cheap comparing to economy class on legacy carriers. Long Haul service by AirAsia is still considered as a test run to see if it is really going to click, meanwhile, they are still concentrating on the short haul services because it is where they are more profitable and since its a short flight mostly, the passengers can endure flying without having to buy meals or be provided with inflight entertainment, they are not catering premium passengers where most legacy carriers are making big profit of, LCCs would have to be contented with bulk and not so much of quality and quantitity combined.



Malaysian airline AirAsia X plans 2011 IPO-paper

(Reuters) - Malaysian long-haul budget carrier AirAsia X plans to launch an initial public offering in the second half of 2011 to tap public funds for growth, a newspaper reported on Wednesday.

Such a move will ease investor concerns that AirAsia X's rising capital requirements could weigh on major shareholder AirAsia (AIRA.KL), Asia's biggest budget carrier by fleet size, said AirAsia Chief Executive Officer Tony Fernandes.

"AirAsia would not fund AirAsia X anymore," Fernandes was quoted by the Edge Financial Daily as saying.

AirAsia X "would seek funding primarily from the IPO exercise," he said.

AirAsia, which focuses on the short-haul business, owns 16 percent of AirAsia X.

AirAsia X's other shareholders include billionaire Richard Branson's Virgin Group VGIAY.PK and Japan's Orix Group.

AirAsia X, which was launched in 2007, reported a net profit of 87 million ringgit ($26.16 million) in 2009 on a revenue of 720 million ringgit.

($1=3.326 Malaysian Ringgit)

(Reporting by Soo Ai Peng; editing by Liau Y-Sing


http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/06/09/airasiax-idUSSGE6570QA20100609

http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/analysis.asp?s=my:AIRASIA

In this report, AirAsia actually showed underperformance from last year growth meaning, they did not meet their target, they didnt lose but they however didnt meet their goal.

people, you don't have to worry. cebu pacific has the most ingenious entertainment in the skies: INFLIGHT GAMES! :D


out of the 4, only KE ang EK (KE and EK! haha, binaliktad? :) ) is operating 380's at the moment. and both of them have a plausible reason to send the 380's to MNL.

Emirates: long haul (but can they fill the 380?)
Korean: dinadagsa na ng mga koreano ang Pinas!

Agree, and they are coming here not only for leisure purpose. Some are investors. On a flight to DVO, I was seated beside a Korean who is a president of a corporation. He said he will treat me a soju if I go back to Korea! :)

I think one of the reasons why EK is not bringing in its A380 to MNL (~9 hr flight vs 6 hrs to EU) is because DXB-MNL flights have big chunk for its Y-class. Not profitable, compared with its EU or even Africa routes which get more F and C class seats.

For example, MNL-DXB sector, economy starts at row 8 while for DXB to Cape Town, South Africa, economy starts at row 17 on a B773. Same principle is true for other airlines.

So although MNL usually gets B77Ws for EK, we can still experience its A380 if we go onward to Paris, Manchester, London, JFK, LAX, etc...and now KE gives us more option if we want to connect via ICN.

parehas ba ung runway length requirement ng A321 at A320? or if A321 requires more, by how much?

parehas ba ung runway length requirement ng A321 at A320? or if A321 requires more, by how much?

Landing length:

for A380 : approximately about 2.8KM as per data 3-4-1
http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/AC_A380_20101101.pdf

for A320: approximately about 2.0KM as per data 3-4-1
http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/Airbus_AC_A320_20110501_Apr11.pdf

for A321: approximately about 2.2 km MAX as per data 3-4-1

AIRBUS AIRCRAFT CHARACTERISTICS

http://www.airbus.com/support/maintenance-engineering/technical-data/aircraft-characteristics/

@AIRBUS A321

AIRPLANE CHARACTERISTICS
FOR AIRPORT PLANNING

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/Airbus_AC_A321_20110501_Apr11.pdf

I can land my A321 at the old Mandurriao Airport, fully loaded...in my FSX. Toinks! :nuts: :lol:

The a321 (at least the current one) requires around 7k ft of runway. Quite a lot for such a small plane.

When it comes to maintenance, all airbus with the exception of A380, it's pretty much the same, there is no extra retraining cost on all airbus fleets unlike Boeing aircrafts. I am not sure why A330/340 would be hard to fill since 5J is booming, the only thing that may differ probably is the fuel cost but that would also depend on what engines they used for instance in A330, not so much with A340. All airbus fleets are run by fly-by-wire technology that was perfected recently and made them very competitive with Boeing aircrafts or technology. From my understanding, even Boeing aircrafts are not being kept on the ground that long, they constantly fly so thats not just an LCC tactic. Southwest airlines for instance utilized B737 on their fleets and has since proven to be worthwhile for their operational cost. Southwest airlines has proven its tract of record when it comes to safety ever since they started their operation so that really doesn't prove that using younger planes to be more effective for all LCCs, infact allegiant air has been using the old MD80 which might change sometime since they were considering B767.

It still boils down to operating cost.. LCC hate lots of expenses and focus only on revenues. Even if they are booming, business man wont take experimental a route. Just like what happened to Zoom Airlines and Oasis Hongkong.. they are all busted. Well at least for now Air Asia X takes the risk but how long are they gonna prove that LCC-Long haul flights will work in the long run?

AFAIK, There is still extra cost with regards to maintenance and training the pilots or type-rating of existing A320 pilots to A340/A330 but not as expensive compare to Boeing type-rating programs.

As for the maintenance there is also engine commonality. Airbus A320 are currently powered by CFM 56-5B or IAE V2500.
A330 can be powered with GE CF6, RR Trent 700 and PW4000. A340-300 are CFM 56-5C while -500/-600 are RR Trent 500 only.

Airlines both LCC and Legacy tries to maintain lower number engine brands or only as much as one or two manufacturers in their bay so that they don't have problems either with spare parts, logistics, technical support etc etc..

Which I observed that most of the legacy airlines are so picky in terms of engine choices. i.e, SQ prefer only PW and they didn't ordered 777-200LR which engines are GE-90.

Landing length:

for A380 : approximately about 2.8KM as per data 3-4-1
http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/AC_A380_20101101.pdf

for A320: approximately about 2.0KM as per data 3-4-1
http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/Airbus_AC_A320_20110501_Apr11.pdf

for A321: approximately about 2.2 km MAX as per data 3-4-1

AIRBUS AIRCRAFT CHARACTERISTICS

http://www.airbus.com/support/maintenance-engineering/technical-data/aircraft-characteristics/

@AIRBUS A321

AIRPLANE CHARACTERISTICS
FOR AIRPORT PLANNING

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/Airbus_AC_A321_20110501_Apr11.pdf
A 2000m runway with 150m overrun both ends should be good enough. The airbus data is based on Max. Take-off weight which means full pax. And belly cargo but airlines wouldn't do that. So most of our Principal class-1 airports can manage except maybe Tagbilaran, Ozamiz, Dumaguete and Naga.

i have landed an A380 in MPH.
sa FSX! :D

I landed an a380 in Telluride Regl :)) tweaked the toe brake scale a little bit, though.

try landing an A380 in Lukla! :D

try landing an A380 in Lukla! :D
Bang!!! :nuts::lol::lol::lol:

Agree, and they are coming here not only for leisure purpose. Some are investors. On a flight to DVO, I was seated beside a Korean who is a president of a corporation. He said he will treat me a soju if I go back to Korea! :)

I think one of the reasons why EK is not bringing in its A380 to MNL (~9 hr flight vs 6 hrs to EU) is because DXB-MNL flights have big chunk for its Y-class. Not profitable, compared with its EU or even Africa routes which get more F and C class seats.

For example, MNL-DXB sector, economy starts at row 8 while for DXB to Cape Town, South Africa, economy starts at row 17 on a B773. Same principle is true for other airlines.

So although MNL usually gets B77Ws for EK, we can still experience its A380 if we go onward to Paris, Manchester, London, JFK, LAX, etc...and now KE gives us more option if we want to connect via ICN.

It's very unlikely that KE will be flying their 380 to MNL anytime soon. Why you ask? It's because KE's 380's are designed more for premium passengers being the least dense configuration (only about 400 seats) of any airline operating the 380. Because of that, KE will be using it on long haul flights on high yielding routes like LAX and JFK rather than to low yield MNL. Likewise if EK will be flying the 380 to MNL it will most likely be the high-density 2-class 600+ passenger version that they're rumored to be getting for passenger heavy (but lower yielding) routes like to India and the Philippines.

^ Imagine kung magkasabay sabay yang budget A380 sa NAIA T1, grabe ang haba sa pila sa immigration and baggage claiming nyan! :D

SC junks petition of pilots
By LEONARD D. POSTRADO
June 19, 2011, 5:31pm

MANILA, Philippines -- The Supreme Court (SC) has junked a petition of a group of commercial pilots seeking the reinstatement of its members who were allegedly an unlawfully dismissed by the Philippine Airlines (PAL) over a labor dispute 13 years ago.

Saying that the case lacked merit, the SC First Division voted for the petition of Airline Pilots Association of the Philippines (ALPAP) to be dismissed.

They also argued that granting the petitioners' plea was tantamount to reopening the labor dispute case between PAL and Alpap which the court had already resolved with finality in 2002.

"A judgment that has attained finality is immutable and could thus no longer be modified. A proceeding may not be reopened upon grounds already available to the parties during the pendency of such proceedings,” read the 13-page decision of SC penned by Associate Justice Mariano del Castillo dated June 6.

Concurring with Del Castillo's opinion were Chief Justice Renato Corona and Associate Justices Teresita Leonardo-de Castro, Roberto Abad and Jose Perez.

Court records showed that the case stemmed from Alpap's plea asking the Department of Labor and Employment (DoLE) to identify specifically who among its members were terminated by PAL after the pilots went on strike on June 5, 1998.

source: http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/323353/sc-junks-petition-pilots

NAIA-1 to undergo renovation
By Rudy Santos (The Philippine Star) Updated June 20, 2011 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Airport authorities disclosed that the 28-year-old Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 1 (NAIA-1) would be renovated in August after an architectural and engineering firm was picked to conduct an assessment of the project.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Jose Honrado said P-Square, an engineering and consulting firm, was selected to start the month-long study worth about P9.4 million.

He said the firm would conduct various tests to know the load-bearing capacity of the building before any improvement could be done, as well as do an analysis to determine which part of the building is already unsafe.

NAIA-1 is being refurbished to keep up with the demand as it has already exceeded its capacity of 10 million passengers a year several years ago.

Most of the estimated 28 foreign airlines that operate at the NAIA-1 had expressed their intention to stay at the old terminal and almost all are reluctant to transfer to the NAIA Terminal 3 until all legal problems are settled.

Cebu Pacific, AirphilExpress and All Nippon Airways are the three airlines operating at the NAIA-3.

Although the planned structural tests had been announced earlier this year, the process was fast-tracked after the styrofoam insulation of the ceiling on the ground level, as well as some plaster concrete pieces from the façade, fell off last May. These were attributed to deterioration due to fatigue or effects of previous earthquakes.

Structural tests would start in August and are expected to be completed in January 2012.

The MIAA would later announce a bidding to determine which architectural firm would conduct the renovation of NAIA-1.

“We want the public to know that the MIAA is upgrading not only the toilets, water supply and carpeting, but is also determined to upgrade the NAIA-1 to international standard,” said airport senior assistant general manager Antonio Bautista.

He pointed out that the NAIA-1 arrival area has been completely refurbished, with its walls and ceiling sporting a new look after these were clad with a metal finish to cover the old style “washout.”

Bautista added the Association of Structural Engineers of the Philippines is assisting the MIAA to come up with a new NAIA-1 that would be attuned to the needs of travelers.

The project would cost about P500 million or more.

“The MIAA has the money to fund the airport’s renovation,” he said, adding that the board of directors would have the final say with the concurrence of Honrado.

Critics of the old terminal have pointed out that nearby airports look modern because of their glass and steel facade, which gives them an airy, spacious and traveler-friendly look with amenities for sleeping.

On the other hand, NAIA-1 looks stodgy and cramped and still sports the washout finish fashionable in the 1980s.

This is the grayish brown color that people see when they look at NAIA-1’s façade since its builders covered the concrete with washout brown pebbles during construction.

Bautista said that architects would surely keep that in mind when remodeling NAIA-1 and would probably wrap the premier airport in gleaming faux stainless steel or similar-looking material to make it look modern and tasteful.

“We will spare no expense to give the NAIA-1 a modern look that Filipinos could be proud of and make it user friendly with various amenities for the satisfaction of users,” Bautista added.

source: http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=697967&publicationSubCategoryId=63

I can land my A380 in Ipil Community Airport in that game in Facebook

June 19, 2011, 1:49 p.m. EDT
AirAsia finalizing $17B order from Airbus: report
Robust aircraft orders expected at Paris Air Show
By Polya Lesova, MarketWatch

PARIS (MarketWatch) — A robust number of aircraft orders is likely to be announced during the coming week’s Paris Air Show, with budget carrier AirAsia reportedly finalizing a record $17 billion order from Airbus.

The movers and shakers of the aerospace and defense world will gather at Le Bourget airport outside of Paris starting Monday. The mood is likely to be generally upbeat, even as the specters of rising fuel costs and a fragile economic recovery hang over the airline industry.

Paris is home turf for EADS FR:EAD -0.88% unit Airbus, which many analysts expect will outpace rival Boeing Co. BA +0.20% in terms of the number of aircraft orders announced.

Europe's week ahead: air show
The aerospace and defense industry will gather next week at Le Bourget airport for the Paris Air Show, reports MarketWatch’s Polya Lesova.

On the eve of the show, the Sunday Times newspaper reported that AirAsia was putting the finishing touches on a $17 billion order for 200 A320 aircraft from Airbus. The order is expected to set a record for the biggest number of planes sold in one contract and is due to be announced on Thursday at the Paris show, the newspaper said. Representatives of AirAsia and Airbus couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

If confirmed, the AirAsia order would underline the importance of the Asian market for aircraft makers. In the past week, two other Asian budget carriers — Cebu Pacific of the Philippines and India’s Go Air — placed orders for the A320 single-aisle aircraft...

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/airasia-2011-06-19?link=MW_home_latest_news

^^

still eager here to find out what places in the Philippines did AAP has considered to operate aside from Clark being it hub.. and when? :cheers:

I can land my A380 in Ipil Community Airport in that game in Facebook

can you tell me what game? wanna play it :)

40 plus airbus planes will be used in philippine domestic flights, tony boy invest last year around 4 billion dollars in 10 year period for planes, watch out ceb and pal

40 plus airbus planes will be used in philippine domestic flights, tony boy invest last year around 4 billion dollars in 10 year period for planes, watch out ceb and pal

40+ in PHIL ? How do you know ?

isa ako sa hahawak ng isang destination sa air asia...ang maganda nito air asia philippines ang pangalan na gagamitin...

^^Kelan mag-start ang launching ng flights ng Air Asia Philippines? Malapit na September ah.. wala pa rin.

isa ako sa hahawak ng isang destination sa air asia...ang maganda nito air asia philippines ang pangalan na gagamitin...

Dios mio! dito pa lang palpak ka na mag bigay ng assessment, paano pa kaya ang AirAsia sa iyo??? Paktay na, lugeh pa sila :lol::lol::lol:

isa ako sa hahawak ng isang destination sa air asia...ang maganda nito air asia philippines ang pangalan na gagamitin...

http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/image/composition/9203785/view/1/producttypecolor/1/type/png/width/378/height/378/citation-needed_design.png

Air Asia Philippines really does maintain a low profile huh?
Malapit na ang September, dapat magstart na sila ng advertisements.

http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/image/composition/9203785/view/1/producttypecolor/1/type/png/width/378/height/378/citation-needed_design.png

pass please!!!!!!...lolz

clark-kl pa lang sa september, by 2012 ang roll up sa domestic flights

^^Bakit walang advertisement? Kahit gumawa lang sana muna sila ng Facebook fan page. :lol:

According to Airlineroute.net Air Chine will be increasing service between PEK and MNL from 4 to 5 times weekly. The additional frequency will be on Sunday.

clark-kl pa lang sa september, by 2012 ang roll up sa domestic flights

what exactly do you mean by "roll up"?

what exactly do you mean by "roll up"?

start flights?

clark-kl pa lang sa september, by 2012 ang roll up sa domestic flights

Di ba, existing daily route na 'to ng Air-Asia:
Clark-Kuala Lumpur at Clark-Kota Kinabalu
US$20 lang nga pamasahe sa rota na 'to, eh (Promo)...
Nahinto ba 'to o Ititigil na, antay hangang mg ops na Air Asia Phl??

clark-kl pa lang sa september, by 2012 ang roll up sa domestic flights
start flights?

baka "Disclose" ang ibig nyang sabihin...

Anyways, I hope they fly to GES too and offer regional link to Singapore and Bangkok.

^^

still eager here to find out what places in the Philippines did AAP has considered to operate aside from Clark being it hub.. and when? :cheers:

so far the hubs are Clark, Manila, Cebu... i posted this sometime months ago sa online dahil may tinatayong Tune hotels sa mga lugar na ito. parang Cebu Pac, kung san may Go Hotels, merong ruta ang Cebu Pac dun sa lugar na yun. Yung Tune Hotel na tinatayo sa Manila e somewhere sa Malate at Makati. I'll post some pics soon. :cheers:

isa ako sa hahawak ng isang destination sa air asia...ang maganda nito air asia philippines ang pangalan na gagamitin...

talaga huh!? andito ka ba sa loob!???

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249847_173884392671446_119566078103278_476161_673093_n.jpg

:lol:

clark-kl pa lang sa september, by 2012 ang roll up sa domestic flights

e matagal ng may Clark-KL na route ang AirAsia. In fact, ilang beses na akong nakasakay dun. :lol:
btw, what do you mean by ROLL-UP???

^^Bakit walang advertisement? Kahit gumawa lang sana muna sila ng Facebook fan page. :lol:

Kakatapos lang ng hiring nila sa Dusit Hotel para sa mga steward/dess last week. ;)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/248691_173884386004780_119566078103278_476160_4800052_n.jpg

so far the hubs are Clark, Manila, Cebu... i posted this sometime months ago sa online dahil may tinatayong Tune hotels sa mga lugar na ito. parang Cebu Pac, kung san may Go Hotels, merong ruta ang Cebu Pac dun sa lugar na yun. Yung Tune Hotel na tinatayo sa Manila e somewhere sa Malate at Makati. I'll post some pics soon. :cheers:



talaga huh!? andito ka ba sa loob!???

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249847_173884392671446_119566078103278_476161_673093_n.jpg

:lol:



e matagal ng may Clark-KL na route ang AirAsia. In fact, ilang beses na akong nakasakay dun. :lol:
btw, what do you mean by ROLL-UP???



Kakatapos lang ng hiring nila sa Dusit Hotel para sa mga steward/dess last week. ;)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/248691_173884386004780_119566078103278_476160_4800052_n.jpg
ayyyyy sana nag apply me, hindi me alam na may screening na for fa huhu :ohno:

can you tell me what game? wanna play it :)

Airline Manager

Sumabit na naman ang A380. :D

Another Airbus plane, the A400 had to be pulled out from a flight demonstration after problems were found.

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The damaged right-hand wing-tip of the Airbus A380, the world's largest jetliner with a wingspan of almost 80 metres, is seen on the tarmac during the Paris Air Show in Le Bourget airport, near Paris, June 20, 2011. The right-hand wing-tip of the plane scraped a building on Sunday and was withdrawn from the air show's traditional flying displays. The aircraft was hidden out of sight on Monday as President Nicolas Sarkozy inaugurated the show. REUTERS/Pascal Rossignol

Air Asia unveils plan for massive refleet


06/21/2011




Malaysian AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes said yesterday he expects the airline to expand its fleet of jets from 93 to around 500 by 2020 to meet surging demand for air travel across the booming continent.

“It is really up to us how we take delivery but honestly 500 aircraft is very achievable,” he told reporters after announcing a $200 million join-venture deal with Canadian firm CAE to run an airline training centre.

Fernandes said AirAsia has placed an order of 175 A320 aircraft which will be fully delivered by 2015 but to meet its expansion plans in Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam it would need another 200 aircraft.“We could be taking three planes a month by then (from 2015) which is 36 planes a year ... over five years that is another 200-odd planes,” he said.



AirAsia has a fleet of 93 aircraft serving about 160 routes in Asia and over 520 flights daily from hubs in Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia. It will take delivery of another seven this year.

Fernandes made the remark amid reports the airline, which is the continent’s largest budget carrier by fleet size, could be set to conclude a deal with Airbus for up to 200 Airbus A320 jets at this week’s Paris Air Show.

The aviation tycoon declined to confirm the reports but said he will make a further announcement at the Le Bourget aviation show in the French capital on Thursday.

Earlier Fernandes said the Asian Aviation Academy will train pilots, cabin crew, maintenance workers and ground personnel for AirAsia and other airlines in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations region.

Montreal-based CAE provides simulation and modelling technologies and integrated training for civil aviation industry and defence forces. AFP

Sumabit na naman ang A380. :D

Another Airbus plane, the A400 had to be pulled out from a flight demonstration after problems were found.

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The damaged right-hand wing-tip of the Airbus A380, the world's largest jetliner with a wingspan of almost 80 metres, is seen on the tarmac during the Paris Air Show in Le Bourget airport, near Paris, June 20, 2011. The right-hand wing-tip of the plane scraped a building on Sunday and was withdrawn from the air show's traditional flying displays. The aircraft was hidden out of sight on Monday as President Nicolas Sarkozy inaugurated the show. REUTERS/Pascal Rossignol
Earning its reputation as a bulldozer plane. :lol:

Airline Manager

thanks!

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akala ko talaga plane model lang to! :nuts:


http://lord.asmodeus.free.fr/avions/A380vsEmbraer.png
http://lord.asmodeus.free.fr/avions/A380vsEmbraer.png
ung building pala na tinamaan nito e may pangalang Embraer
may grudge ba ang Airbus? hahahaha :)

:doh: Doh! Can't these A380 pilots gauge the distances whenever they try to maneuver "The Whale" around the taxiways at airports? :ohno:

Maybe the pilot is nearsighted. wrong contact lenses. :ohno: :bash: The building forgot to duck... dahh

ayyyyy sana nag apply me, hindi me alam na may screening na for fa huhu :ohno:

ang tanong... air asia philippines na ba ang nakasulat sa labas ng plane???? yun ang totoong air asia philippines this september...domestic flights ang hahawakan ko hindi International flights

:doh: Doh! Can't these A380 pilots gauge the distances whenever they try to maneuver "The Whale" around the taxiways at airports? :ohno:

Not all the time, I've been in a cockpit sitting on the pilot's chair, IMO even if you're well experienced with it, you can't always gauge the surrounding. This is why alot of times they require an approaching plane near a building or other aircrafts to have wing walkers for these purpose. I imagine that , that particular taxiway isn't designed for an A380 and they missed that part.

clark-kl pa lang sa september, by 2012 ang roll up sa domestic flights

ang tanong... air asia philippines na ba ang nakasulat sa labas ng plane???? yun ang totoong air asia philippines this september...domestic flights ang hahawakan ko hindi International flights

kelan ba nagkaroon ng THAI AirAsia o AirAsia Indonesia o MALAY AirAsia na nakasulat!???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

FYI, AIRASIA.COM lang ang nakasulat parang CEBUPACIFICAIR.COM... tsk! tsk! tsk!

JOKER ka noh!??? :lol: kelan ba ang ROLL UP mo!?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

ang tanong... air asia philippines na ba ang nakasulat sa labas ng plane???? yun ang totoong air asia philippines this september...domestic flights ang hahawakan ko hindi International flights hahaha hindi pwede na air asia lang ang ilagay nila dahila magagalit mga pinoy pride philippine carriers magagalit sila idedemanda at ipapatigil nila ang operations tulad ng ngyari sa seair manila- cebu manila davao flights ayaw nila ng ganun.. anyway good na silent lang ang air asia phil kundi pagpye[yeshatan po sila at papatayin sila ng pinoy pride airlines :lol::lol::lol::lol: lalamunin sila ng buhay..

isa ako sa hahawak ng isang destination sa air asia...ang maganda nito air asia philippines ang pangalan na gagamitin...

Weh? ayan ka na naman eh :lol: di nga pre?

from 5J website. May Zamboanga-Tawi Tawi route na din sila, using A319! :D

CEB reveals 2 new domestic routes; names Tawi-Tawi its 50th destination
Kicks off Zamboanga – Tawi-Tawi and Cagayan de Oro-Iloilo routes with seat sale as low as P488

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) holds a seat sale for its 2 newest domestic routes and Zamboanga hub from June 22 to 24, 2011 or until seats last, for travel from October 14 to November 30, 2011.

Passengers from Zamboanga to Tawi-Tawi can buy P488 seats during the seat sale, which is 25% less than the lowest year-round fare for this route. Tawi-Tawi is the airline’s 50th destination and 77th route. It will be a daily service starting October 14, utilizing an Airbus A319 aircraft.

After the seat sale, passengers can begin booking their Zamboanga – Tawi-Tawi flights for as low as P649.

P688 seats are also available for Cagayan de Oro - Iloilo, CEB’s 78th route. It is the only airline offering direct flights from Western Visayas to Northern Mindanao for the benefit of its passengers. It will be a Monday, Wednesday, Friday service starting October 14, utilizing an Airbus A319 aircraft.

CEB also holds a Zamboanga hub seat sale to further promote travel from the region. For travel from August 1 to November 30, 2011, passengers can buy P688 seats from Zamboanga to Cebu and Davao, as well as from Manila to Cagayan de Oro.

Meanwhile, for travel from August 1 to September 30, 2011, P888 seats are available from Manila to Zamboanga and Davao.

Guests can avail of their Prepaid Baggage Allowances upon booking, for travel savings as much as 63% on domestic flights compared to buying baggage allowance at the airport.

“CEB is proud to offer connectivity to Tawi-Tawi, given its religious and cultural diversity and potentials for trade and tourism. With our flights from Zamboanga, more Filipinos can experience the convenience and speed of air travel, on our trademark low fares,” said CEB VP for Marketing and Distribution Candice Iyog.

She added that Tawi-Tawi is known for its abundant seafood, extensive coral reefs, white sand beaches and rich Malay history. The Turtle Islands are located here, which together with three islands in Malaysia, are the only living area of Green Sea Turtles in Asia and the world. It was declared a protected area in 1996.

The oldest Mosque in the Philippines can be found in Tawi-Tawi, as well as ethnic groups Sama, Jama Mapun, Tausug and Badjaos. It also serves as a gateway to Sabah, Malaysia.

For bookings and inquiries, guests can go to www.cebupacificair.com or http://funtours.cebupacificair.com (for Fun Tours packages), or call the reservation hotlines (02) 7020-888 or (032) 230-8888. The latest seat sales and promos can also be found on CEB’s official Twitter and Facebook pages.

Guests who don’t have credit cards may also book online and conveniently pay through CEB partner banks and payment centers. Upon booking online, travelers can also select seats in advance and avail of CEB’s web check-in service for a faster check-in process.

CEB currently operates 10 Airbus A319, 15 Airbus A320 and 8 ATR-72 500 aircraft. By the end of 2011, CEB will be operating a fleet of 37 aircraft – with an average age of less than 3.5 years – one of the most modern aircraft fleets in the world. Between 2012 and 2021, Cebu Pacific will take an additional 23 Airbus A320 and 30 Airbus A321neo aircraft.


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About Cebu Air Inc. (PSE: CEB)
Cebu Air Inc. is the largest carrier in the Philippine air transportation industry, offering its low-cost services to more destinations and routes with higher flight frequency within the Philippines than any other airline.

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:doh: Doh! Can't these A380 pilots gauge the distances whenever they try to maneuver "The Whale" around the taxiways at airports? :ohno:

according to a thread on a.net, it was the tug driver's fault and not the pilots'.
some even blame the building, for being so close to the taxiway :nuts:

Sumabit na naman ang A380. :D

Another Airbus plane, the A400 had to be pulled out from a flight demonstration after problems were found.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/H3uHuMdHZvsXUxeDGNKZ7w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MjA7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2011-06-20T122655Z_01_PR12_RTRIDSP_3_AIRSHOW.jpg

The damaged right-hand wing-tip of the Airbus A380, the world's largest jetliner with a wingspan of almost 80 metres, is seen on the tarmac during the Paris Air Show in Le Bourget airport, near Paris, June 20, 2011. The right-hand wing-tip of the plane scraped a building on Sunday and was withdrawn from the air show's traditional flying displays. The aircraft was hidden out of sight on Monday as President Nicolas Sarkozy inaugurated the show. REUTERS/Pascal Rossignol
The woes of the now way over-budget A400M never stops. The launch customers must be grinding their teeth.

:doh: Doh! Can't these A380 pilots gauge the distances whenever they try to maneuver "The Whale" around the taxiways at airports? :ohno:

you really hate Airbus, dont you? :lol: i'd understand if you're from Seattle :lol:

from 5J website. May Zamboanga-Tawi Tawi route na din sila, using A319! :D

CEB reveals 2 new domestic routes; names Tawi-Tawi its 50th destination
Kicks off Zamboanga – Tawi-Tawi and Cagayan de Oro-Iloilo routes with seat sale as low as P488

The Philippines’ largest national flag carrier, Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB) holds a seat sale for its 2 newest domestic routes and Zamboanga hub from June 22 to 24, 2011 or until seats last, for travel from October 14 to November 30, 2011.

Passengers from Zamboanga to Tawi-Tawi can buy P488 seats during the seat sale, which is 25% less than the lowest year-round fare for this route. Tawi-Tawi is the airline’s 50th destination and 77th route. It will be a daily service starting October 14, utilizing an Airbus A319 aircraft.

After the seat sale, passengers can begin booking their Zamboanga – Tawi-Tawi flights for as low as P649.

P688 seats are also available for Cagayan de Oro - Iloilo, CEB’s 78th route. It is the only airline offering direct flights from Western Visayas to Northern Mindanao for the benefit of its passengers. It will be a Monday, Wednesday, Friday service starting October 14, utilizing an Airbus A319 aircraft.

CEB also holds a Zamboanga hub seat sale to further promote travel from the region. For travel from August 1 to November 30, 2011, passengers can buy P688 seats from Zamboanga to Cebu and Davao, as well as from Manila to Cagayan de Oro.

Meanwhile, for travel from August 1 to September 30, 2011, P888 seats are available from Manila to Zamboanga and Davao.

Guests can avail of their Prepaid Baggage Allowances upon booking, for travel savings as much as 63% on domestic flights compared to buying baggage allowance at the airport.

“CEB is proud to offer connectivity to Tawi-Tawi, given its religious and cultural diversity and potentials for trade and tourism. With our flights from Zamboanga, more Filipinos can experience the convenience and speed of air travel, on our trademark low fares,” said CEB VP for Marketing and Distribution Candice Iyog.

She added that Tawi-Tawi is known for its abundant seafood, extensive coral reefs, white sand beaches and rich Malay history. The Turtle Islands are located here, which together with three islands in Malaysia, are the only living area of Green Sea Turtles in Asia and the world. It was declared a protected area in 1996.

The oldest Mosque in the Philippines can be found in Tawi-Tawi, as well as ethnic groups Sama, Jama Mapun, Tausug and Badjaos. It also serves as a gateway to Sabah, Malaysia.

For bookings and inquiries, guests can go to www.cebupacificair.com or http://funtours.cebupacificair.com (for Fun Tours packages), or call the reservation hotlines (02) 7020-888 or (032) 230-8888. The latest seat sales and promos can also be found on CEB’s official Twitter and Facebook pages.

Guests who don’t have credit cards may also book online and conveniently pay through CEB partner banks and payment centers. Upon booking online, travelers can also select seats in advance and avail of CEB’s web check-in service for a faster check-in process.

CEB currently operates 10 Airbus A319, 15 Airbus A320 and 8 ATR-72 500 aircraft. By the end of 2011, CEB will be operating a fleet of 37 aircraft – with an average age of less than 3.5 years – one of the most modern aircraft fleets in the world. Between 2012 and 2021, Cebu Pacific will take an additional 23 Airbus A320 and 30 Airbus A321neo aircraft.


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About Cebu Air Inc. (PSE: CEB)
Cebu Air Inc. is the largest carrier in the Philippine air transportation industry, offering its low-cost services to more destinations and routes with higher flight frequency within the Philippines than any other airline.
Must be an error on the Zamboanga- Tawi-Tawi route using airbus. I can't see that demand for a daily airbus traffic. A319 for Ilo-Ilo - Cagayan is good; they are major cities.

Must be an error on the Zamboanga- Tawi-Tawi route using airbus. I can't see that demand for a daily airbus traffic. A319 for Ilo-Ilo - Cagayan is good; they are major cities.

baka dahil sa ceb-zam route nila, correct me if I'm wrong but they are using an airbus for that route right?

Or baka nagkamali lng siguro dahil hindi pa malaki ang demand.

upgraded na yung Sanga-Sanga airport to handle A320s in tawi tawi ha.. kaya its OK.. this is good for tourism.. in years to come tawi tawi will be a tourist heaven.. kaya move over boracay and palawan.. tawi-tawi ang panlaban ng philippines sa maldives sa island beaches.. yeah pristine beaches and fantastic culture.. good food and friendly locals.. TAWI TAWI na!!!! GO!!!! im excited ha :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

upgraded na yung Sanga-Sanga airport to handle A320s in tawi tawi ha.. kaya its OK.. this is good for tourism.. in years to come tawi tawi will be a tourist heaven.. kaya move over boracay and palawan.. tawi-tawi ang panlaban ng philippines sa maldives sa island beaches.. yeah pristine beaches and fantastic culture.. good food and friendly locals.. TAWI TAWI na!!!! GO!!!! im excited ha :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
I know the runway has been upgraded years ago courtesy of USAID/GEM program, same with Jolo. There is an existing APX daily service to and from Zamboanga. I'm more inclined to believe 5j is fielding the A319 to grab the passengers from them and just like what they did in Butuan. It could happen as well in Ozamiz. Is there enough traffic to sustain a daily airbus?, maybe, once APX is gone.

Sanga-Sanga airport

parang bora-bora french Polynesia lang ha sosyal!!!! mwauh!!!

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upgraded na yung Sanga-Sanga airport to handle A320s in tawi tawi ha.. kaya its OK.. this is good for tourism.. in years to come tawi tawi will be a tourist heaven.. kaya move over boracay and palawan.. tawi-tawi ang panlaban ng philippines sa maldives sa island beaches.. yeah pristine beaches and fantastic culture.. good food and friendly locals.. TAWI TAWI na!!!! GO!!!! im excited ha :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

totoo yan...so much hidden beauty and potentials.

bat sanga-sanga airpot ang name? criss cross ba ang daanan dayan dati kayat tinawag na sanga sanga

totoo yan...so much hidden beauty and potentials.

^^

what about the safety around the area? is it friendly to tourist already? i've been there last 2009 although it was quiet but silence can also mean another thing...:)in fairness Tawi-Tawi is a hidden paradise...:)

^^

what about the safety around the area? is it friendly to tourist already? i've been there last 2009 although it was quiet but silence can also mean another thing...:)in fairness Tawi-Tawi is a hidden paradise...:)
in fairness to Tawi Tawi. thats the answer to all the questions.

in fairness to Tawi Tawi. thats the answer to all the questions.

^^

how did it answer all the question again????pls.enlighten me...:)

bat sanga-sanga airpot ang name? criss cross ba ang daanan dayan dati kayat tinawag na sanga sanga

The airport is located in Barangay Sanga-Sanga, Bongao, hence the name.

The airport is located in Barangay Sanga-Sanga, Bongao, hence the name.

Correct.!

^^

how did it answer all the question again????pls.enlighten me...:)
apparently, insurgencies are taking place in Basilan island and not in Tawi-Tawi. Basilan and Tawi-Tawi are far from each other...Basilan is closer to Zamboanga City.
Regarding its people, I suppose so that they are tourist friendly because they are Filipinos and like and you and me we know how Filipinos are dont we?

upgraded na yung Sanga-Sanga airport to handle A320s in tawi tawi ha.. kaya its OK.. this is good for tourism.. in years to come tawi tawi will be a tourist heaven.. kaya move over boracay and palawan.. tawi-tawi ang panlaban ng philippines sa maldives sa island beaches.. yeah pristine beaches and fantastic culture.. good food and friendly locals.. TAWI TAWI na!!!! GO!!!! im excited ha :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

wag naman :) pwede namang Tawi-Tawi, Boracay, at Palawan eh at tsaka isama din natin ang Cebu at Bohol. di ba mas maganda kung marami? mas aangat ang Bayan natin diyan. :)

I know the runway has been upgraded years ago courtesy of USAID/GEM program, same with Jolo. There is an existing APX daily service to and from Zamboanga. I'm more inclined to believe 5j is fielding the A319 to grab the passengers from them and just like what they did in Butuan. It could happen as well in Ozamiz. Is there enough traffic to sustain a daily airbus?, maybe, once APX is gone.
With further promoting Tawi-Tawi for tourism and investments I think maka sustain naman. :cheers:

Must be an error on the Zamboanga- Tawi-Tawi route using airbus. I can't see that demand for a daily airbus traffic. A319 for Ilo-Ilo - Cagayan is good; they are major cities.

error? haha. Malakas kaya ang demand ng Zamboanga - Tawi-tawi route.

This is from Airphil Express:

"There’s a very good load factor on each flight, showing strong demand," said Captain Patrick Roa, Airphil Express’ chief pilot. "I would say that most flights are at least 80% full."


source: Tawi-Tawi notes gains from runway upgrade (http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Economy&title=Tawi-Tawi-notes-gains-from-runway-upgrade&id=31269)

error? haha. Malakas kaya ang demand ng Zamboanga - Tawi-tawi route.

This is from Airphil Express:



source: Tawi-Tawi notes gains from runway upgrade (http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Economy&title=Tawi-Tawi-notes-gains-from-runway-upgrade&id=31269)
An 80% load factor of a Q400 translates to 56 pax at the most. What would happen to those passengers once a bigger aircraft comes that seats 155? I don't see a demand here. Just a marketing move by 5j to shutdown the competition. They were successful in Butuan, they will do it in Ozamiz, and I'm not surprised if they will do it in Tawi-Tawi. If they field an ATR, what will they get if APX can only load up 56.

An 80% load factor of a Q400 translates to 56 pax at the most. What would happen to those passengers once a bigger aircraft comes that seats 155? I don't see a demand here. Just a marketing move by 5j to shutdown the competition. They were successful in Butuan, they will do it in Ozamiz, and I'm not surprised if they will do it in Tawi-Tawi. If they field an ATR, what will they get if APX can only load up 56.

Is it possible that same aircraft will be use from the cebu-Zam-DvO route?

An 80% load factor of a Q400 translates to 56 pax at the most. What would happen to those passengers once a bigger aircraft comes that seats 155? I don't see a demand here. Just a marketing move by 5j to shutdown the competition. They were successful in Butuan, they will do it in Ozamiz, and I'm not surprised if they will do it in Tawi-Tawi. If they field an ATR, what will they get if APX can only load up 56.
la lang, baka gawing side trip lang ng cebu pacific ang tawi-tawi habang nag ooperate ng cebu-zamboanga-davao route. its an advantage on the part of Tawi-Tawi...I love Cebu PAcific. dont you?

An 80% load factor of a Q400 translates to 56 pax at the most. What would happen to those passengers once a bigger aircraft comes that seats 155? I don't see a demand here. Just a marketing move by 5j to shutdown the competition. They were successful in Butuan, they will do it in Ozamiz, and I'm not surprised if they will do it in Tawi-Tawi. If they field an ATR, what will they get if APX can only load up 56.

meron kasi mga tao takot gumamit ng turboprops. With the entry of CEB, it will givem ore competition to APX through dirt-cheap fares. Giving Letting more passengers from this area ride on a plane than agonizing from small unsanitary ferries called 'lanchas' on a 17-hour trip that gives just same fares..

you really hate Airbus, dont you? :lol: i'd understand if you're from Seattle :lol:

:lol: Boeing is now based in Chicago. My former hometown. ;)

:lol: Boeing is now based in Chicago. My former hometown. ;)
I thought they were in SEA, since when did they moved at ORD/MDW?

Pinaliitan ko.
Nice quite place.

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I thought they were in SEA, since when did they moved at ORD/MDW?

Boeing's International Headquarters is now in Chicago, IL, been there since 2001. But its main factory plant is still in Everett, WA (outside of Seattle).

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/faa-inspections-fault-philippine-repair-station-211845392.html

FAA inspections fault Philippine repair station
By JOAN LOWY - Associated Press | AP – Wed, Jun 22, 2011

WASHINGTON (AP) — A repair station in the Philippines that services planes for nearly 50 airlines around the world has shown a pattern of stubborn problems that safety experts say underscore concerns about the airline industry's outsourcing of maintenance to facilities in developing countries.
The Federal Aviation Administration inspections of Lufthansa Technik Philippines in Manila said the facility had repeated difficulties in following U.S. regulations on matters ranging from record-keeping to calibrating tools used to make repairs. The records, which cover inspections from 2008 through last month, also cite recurring problems with training workers to FAA standards and unfamiliarity by in-house inspectors at Lufthansa Technik, a subsidiary of Lufthansa Airlines, with U.S. regulations.
Lufthansa Technik's "quality assurance department demonstrated an inability to effectively audit the repair station for compliance with all aspects of (U.S. regulations), specifically, appropriate facilities, tools/equipment, personnel and training requirements," according to an inspection in May.
A 2009 inspection noted that two in-house inspectors were unfamiliar with FAA aircraft maintenance regulations. The inspectors had recently received four hours of training in the regulations, but weren't tested for their knowledge afterward, it said.
The same inspection noted that "throughout the repair station numerous personnel are not aware of which airline they are providing maintenance for" and which country's regulations applied.
The reports show problems scattered throughout the facility rather than in one department, which indicates the problems are systemic, said John Goglia, a former National Transportation Safety Board member and an expert on aircraft maintenance. The result, he said, is an erosion of the margin of safety.
"As they expand into Third World countries to take advantage of the labor rates and lower costs these problems keep coming back because you just don't have the people infrastructure," Goglia said. "How many trained people do you think there are the Philippines, in Malaysia and in Indonesia? They are expanding a big operation with a relatively thin technical workforce."
The Manila facility employs 2,800 aircraft mechanics and other employees. It's certified by the FAA and aviation authorities from 20 nations to perform maintenance work ranging from routine repairs to major overhauls, according to Lufthansa Technik. The company recently began construction of a new hangar so that Airbus A380s — the world's largest airliner capable of seating up to 853 passengers — can be serviced at the facility.
The records were obtained from the FAA through a Freedom of Information Act request by a labor union, Unite Here, which represents employees of Lufthansa's catering subsidiary in North America, SkyChef. The union and the airline are in contract negotiations.
"None of the mentioned FAA audit findings had significant impact on safety and reliability of aircraft and components," Lufthansa Technik said in a statement.
"Each finding has been treated as an opportunity to enhance the existing system, as it is an industry standard to deal with findings from internal and external audits," the statement said. "Corrective actions have always been implemented and accepted by the FAA."
However, the report on last month's inspection said numerous problems cited in an August 2010 inspection still had not been corrected. "An acceptable corrective plan has been submitted, but due to recent failures, an on-site follow-up inspection ... is required," it said.
Bill Voss, president of the Flight Safety Foundation, an industry-supported group that promotes aviation safety worldwide, said the inspections indicate Lufthansa Technik Philippines has a problem with quality control, but he cautioned against making more general judgments about offshore aircraft repair stations.
"It's a huge leap to suggest this is representative of all foreign repair stations," Voss said. "I'm not sure offshore equals bad."
The FAA said in a statement that it holds foreign repair facilities to the same standards as U.S. facilities. Repair facilities that don't meet those standards can lose their certification. The FAA has certified Lufthansa Technik Philippines for repairs since 2000.
The Transportation Department Office of Inspector General announced in December it has launched an investigation of the FAA's oversight of maintenance performed for U.S. passenger airlines by outside contractors, including oversight of overseas repair stations.
A 2008 report by the inspector general said nine big U.S. airlines farm out aircraft maintenance at twice the rate of four years earlier and hire outside contractors for more than 70 percent of major work. While most of the outsourced work is still done in the U.S., often at nonunion repair shops, more than one-quarter of the repairs are done overseas, it said.
A bill backed by House Democrats that would have required the FAA to step up inspections of foreign repair stations from once a year to twice a year died last year. It was opposed by the European Union, which threatened to cut back on planes its airlines send to repair facilities in the U.S.
Lufthansa, one of the world's largest airlines, owns 51 percent of Lufthansa Technik Philippines, while the Philippine MacroAsia Corp. owns 49 percent.
The only U.S. carrier that sends planes to Lufthansa Technik Philippines for major maintenance work is Hawaiian Airlines, which flies to destinations in the Western United States, the Pacific and Asia. Lufthansa, Swiss Air, Qantas, LAN, Philippine Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Vietnam Airlines, Gulf Air, Kuwait Airways and Jet Airways are among some of the other airlines that use the facility for major work.

Boeing's International Headquarters is now in Chicago, IL, been there since 2001. But its main factory plant is still in Everett, WA (outside of Seattle).

That is slowly shifting as local and state laws are hindering Boeing's business. The new S. Carolina plant is an example once WA.DC will get out of the way as they should.

I've always wanted to visit Tawi Tawi. Maybe this daily flight by 5J (nd 2P as well) will give more people the chance to visit Tawi Tawi. :D

:lol: Boeing is now based in Chicago. My former hometown. ;)

I meant the unionized Everett plant :)

The airbus neo is beating the 737 in orders in Paris. Close to 600 orders now

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/faa-inspections-fault-philippine-repair-station-211845392.html

FAA inspections fault Philippine repair station
By JOAN LOWY - Associated Press | AP – Wed, Jun 22, 2011

WASHINGTON (AP) — A repair station in the Philippines that services planes for nearly 50 airlines around the world has shown a pattern of stubborn problems that safety experts say underscore concerns about the airline industry's outsourcing of maintenance to facilities in developing countries.
The Federal Aviation Administration inspections of Lufthansa Technik Philippines in Manila said the facility had repeated difficulties in following U.S. regulations on matters ranging from record-keeping to calibrating tools used to make repairs. The records, which cover inspections from 2008 through last month, also cite recurring problems with training workers to FAA standards and unfamiliarity by in-house inspectors at Lufthansa Technik, a subsidiary of Lufthansa Airlines, with U.S. regulations.
Lufthansa Technik's "quality assurance department demonstrated an inability to effectively audit the repair station for compliance with all aspects of (U.S. regulations), specifically, appropriate facilities, tools/equipment, personnel and training requirements," according to an inspection in May.
A 2009 inspection noted that two in-house inspectors were unfamiliar with FAA aircraft maintenance regulations. The inspectors had recently received four hours of training in the regulations, but weren't tested for their knowledge afterward, it said.
The same inspection noted that "throughout the repair station numerous personnel are not aware of which airline they are providing maintenance for" and which country's regulations applied.
The reports show problems scattered throughout the facility rather than in one department, which indicates the problems are systemic, said John Goglia, a former National Transportation Safety Board member and an expert on aircraft maintenance. The result, he said, is an erosion of the margin of safety.
"As they expand into Third World countries to take advantage of the labor rates and lower costs these problems keep coming back because you just don't have the people infrastructure," Goglia said. "How many trained people do you think there are the Philippines, in Malaysia and in Indonesia? They are expanding a big operation with a relatively thin technical workforce."
The Manila facility employs 2,800 aircraft mechanics and other employees. It's certified by the FAA and aviation authorities from 20 nations to perform maintenance work ranging from routine repairs to major overhauls, according to Lufthansa Technik. The company recently began construction of a new hangar so that Airbus A380s — the world's largest airliner capable of seating up to 853 passengers — can be serviced at the facility.
The records were obtained from the FAA through a Freedom of Information Act request by a labor union, Unite Here, which represents employees of Lufthansa's catering subsidiary in North America, SkyChef. The union and the airline are in contract negotiations.
"None of the mentioned FAA audit findings had significant impact on safety and reliability of aircraft and components," Lufthansa Technik said in a statement.
"Each finding has been treated as an opportunity to enhance the existing system, as it is an industry standard to deal with findings from internal and external audits," the statement said. "Corrective actions have always been implemented and accepted by the FAA."
However, the report on last month's inspection said numerous problems cited in an August 2010 inspection still had not been corrected. "An acceptable corrective plan has been submitted, but due to recent failures, an on-site follow-up inspection ... is required," it said.
Bill Voss, president of the Flight Safety Foundation, an industry-supported group that promotes aviation safety worldwide, said the inspections indicate Lufthansa Technik Philippines has a problem with quality control, but he cautioned against making more general judgments about offshore aircraft repair stations.
"It's a huge leap to suggest this is representative of all foreign repair stations," Voss said. "I'm not sure offshore equals bad."
The FAA said in a statement that it holds foreign repair facilities to the same standards as U.S. facilities. Repair facilities that don't meet those standards can lose their certification. The FAA has certified Lufthansa Technik Philippines for repairs since 2000.
The Transportation Department Office of Inspector General announced in December it has launched an investigation of the FAA's oversight of maintenance performed for U.S. passenger airlines by outside contractors, including oversight of overseas repair stations.
A 2008 report by the inspector general said nine big U.S. airlines farm out aircraft maintenance at twice the rate of four years earlier and hire outside contractors for more than 70 percent of major work. While most of the outsourced work is still done in the U.S., often at nonunion repair shops, more than one-quarter of the repairs are done overseas, it said.
A bill backed by House Democrats that would have required the FAA to step up inspections of foreign repair stations from once a year to twice a year died last year. It was opposed by the European Union, which threatened to cut back on planes its airlines send to repair facilities in the U.S.
Lufthansa, one of the world's largest airlines, owns 51 percent of Lufthansa Technik Philippines, while the Philippine MacroAsia Corp. owns 49 percent.
The only U.S. carrier that sends planes to Lufthansa Technik Philippines for major maintenance work is Hawaiian Airlines, which flies to destinations in the Western United States, the Pacific and Asia. Lufthansa, Swiss Air, Qantas, LAN, Philippine Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Vietnam Airlines, Gulf Air, Kuwait Airways and Jet Airways are among some of the other airlines that use the facility for major work.

pakana ng isang union na kontra sa offshoring....

London to Tokyo in two hours: Blueprints for 3,000mph hypersonic plane are unveiled...


The project, developed by Airbus’s parent company EADS, was unveiled before the official opening of the Paris Air Show today.
Carrying up to 100 passengers, a set of conventional jet engines would help launch the aircraft from a normal airport runway, meaning the aircraft would not produce the noisy ‘sonic boom’ that Concorde did....


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/19/article-2005513-0CA2205300000578-740_964x578.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/19/article-2005513-0CA1C3EF00000578-195_964x563.jpg


Full Article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2005513/London-Tokyo-2-hours-Blueprints-3-000mph-hypersonic-plane-unveiled.html)

360degree tour of concorde cabin

http://www.kenmcbride.com/National-Museum-of-Flight/concordec/

;80085200']360degree tour of concorde cabin

http://www.kenmcbride.com/National-Museum-of-Flight/concordec/

kitang-kita pa yung bitak sa kisame.:)

Pinaliitan ko.
Nice quite place.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg43/scaled.php?server=43&filename=45214705.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=13892758.jpg&res=medium
Nice aerials; the first one is most current showing the standard runway markings for precision non-instrument airports. This runway has turn-around pads. Not sure if the tarmac is newly paved as well and whether the terminal has been rehabilitated.

pakana ng isang union na kontra sa offshoring....

I think that was the result of one US airline company or two who had incident the past couple years and it was connected to outsourcing maintenance and repair outside the US, it wasn't in asia or the Philippines, it was more around latin American countries. I can't remember which airline company it was but I would like to think it was the ones with Southwest airline incident who usually does these maintenance and inspections overseas. The mere fact that Teknik Philippines demonstrated an oversight in aspect of record keeping took a blow in the Philippine aviation as well following that incident with Southwest airlines. Now, FAA started running after facilities outside the US, which, as mentioned , are all outsourcing companies in third world companies. It's hard to blame FAA on this one because the fault was on the latin american countries hosting outsourcing aircraft maintenance. Since there were incidents with Qantas as well, we all knew that they also outsource their maintenance in the Philippines so now it started to snow ball on them there in the Philippines.

While the Philippines is probably doing a good job in outsourcing aviation maintence, it's the record keeping,personel re- training/recertifications and equipment calibrations are the constant cause of concern, something FAA found when they first downgrade the Philippines to cat 2. All because of proper paper work....

^^

the press release came from a union that opposes outsourcing.

TAWI-TAWI PO! SEATSALE courtesy of Cebu Pacific


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AyUclh-9BiQ/TgEt4hjRvmI/AAAAAAAAKho/KlHDR6Tl3Vk/s1600/Cebu+Pacific+Tawi+tawi+2.jpg




Make way for our low fares to new destinations! We're holding a seat sale for two of our newest domestic routes and Zamboanga hub from now until June 24, 2011 or until seats last, for travel from October 14 to November 30, 2011.

Fly for as low as P488 from Zamboanga to Tawi-Tawi, this is 25% less than the lowest year-round fare for this route. Tawi-Tawi is Cebu Pacific's (CEB) 50th destination and 77th route. This will be a daily service starting October 14, utilizing an Airbus A319 aircraft.



Source (http://everythinginbudget.blogspot.com/2011/06/cebu-pacific-fly-to-tawi-tawi-for-only.html)

^^

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Tawi-tawi.. the last frontier of Mindanao!

yeah!!! naku wag naman poh sana maglokalokahan mga bandidong rebelde dyan ha.. baka magpasabog sila ng airbus! LOL be friendly to tourists ha just a reminder to all bandidong rebelde out there:lol::lol::lol: make love not war!!! PEACE MWUAH

scary near-miss two days ago in JFK between an Egypt Air and Lufthansa...:eek::ohno:
buti na lang nag brake kagad..

Is it possible that same aircraft will be use from the cebu-Zam-DvO route?

the Tawi Tawi flight will replace the current ZAM-DVO-ZAM flight...

The new routing will be CEB-ZAM-SGS-ZAM-CEB and the DVO-ZAM will be re-timed by noon or early afternoon as CEB-DVO-ZAM-DVO-CEB...

PAL flights to Australia resume

Philippine Daily Inquirer
6:06 am | Thursday, June 23rd, 2011





Philippine Airlines resumed regular flight service to Australia resumed on Wednesday following a single cancelation on Tuesday due to volcanic ash that enveloped the skies near Melbourne.

PAL PR 211 (Manila-Sydney-Melbourne) took off at 9:20 a.m. using a PAL Airbus A340 aircraft. Its 140 passengers include those supposed to take Tuesday’s canceled flight for Melbourne and Sydney.

PR209 (Manila-Melbourne-Sydney) was canceled on Tuesday as a precautionary measure to ensure passenger safety after volcanic ash clouds from Chile reached some parts of Australia.

The volcanic cloud traveled across the Pacific from Chile’s Puyehue-Cordon Caulle volcano, which erupted on June 5.

Bombardier sees jet pricing competition



June 23, 2011, 3:24am





PARIS (Dow Jones) – Canada's Bombardier Inc. is seeing pricing pressure on its family of short-hop jets from intensifying competition in a market it developed and long dominated, just as it aggressively moves to diversify outside the US market.


Guy Hachey, the president of Bombardier Aerospace, said in an interview that increased competition not just from Brazilian rival Empresa Brasileira de Aeronautica SA) (Embraer) but also from emerging manufacturers in China, Japan and Russia, is "absolutely" starting to impact prices.


Montreal-based Bombardier is debuting its CRJ1000, which seats 100 passengers, at the air show after its recent entry into service in Europe by Air France-KLM's Brit Air and Air Nostrum.


The bulk of Bombardier's regional jet fleet is in the US, where pilot scope clauses are hindering the company from selling its larger regional jets. Scope clauses are provisions in the pilot labor contracts that limit the number and/or seating capacity of regional jets that can be operated by an airline.


"We're absolutely aggressive in moving the CRJ elsewhere," Hachey said. "The CRJ has been very well received. The scope clauses are a problem in the US But, we anticipate the scope clauses will relax over a period of time."


"This plane is going to be around for awhile," he said. "There is tremendous amount of appetite, especially replacing the 50-seaters."


India is a good example, he said, where low-cost carrier SpiceJet Ltd. (500285.BY) in December ordered 15 Q400 turboprops and took options for 15 more as it looks to feed traffic into its hubs

Airbus increases pressure on Boeing

By TIM HEPHER and KYLE PETERSONJune 23, 2011, 3:21am





LE BOURGET, France, June 22 (Reuters) – Airbus piled up orders for its revamped A320neo passenger jet at the Paris Air Show on Tuesday, putting more pressure on Boeing and limiting scope for new rivals as Russian premier Vladimir Putin arrives to tout his country's aerospace industry.



European planemaker Airbus notched up $14.4 billion of orders on the first day, outselling US rival Boeing's $9.3 billion. Early on Tuesday its sales chief said it had 544 commitments for its new A320 aircraft, including a memorandum of understanding with leasing company CIT for 50.


Airbus had also won almost 100 orders and commitments for its A320neo family of planes worth about $8.3 billion based on list prices by 0939 GMT on Tuesday.


Boeing and Airbus are locked in a strategy battle over a huge market for single-aisle aircraft, with Airbus marketing a revamped version of its A320 and Boeing holding back on deciding whether to upgrade or redesign its 737.


''I think it is going to be a different conversation at the end of the week, depending on what Airbus achieves this week in terms of orders for the neo,'' Henri Courpron, Chief Executive of International Finance Lease Corporation, the world's largest aircraft leasing company told Reuters.


''So if we asssume, based on rumours and reports, that the neo is going to be a great success this week, then it prompts Boeing to do something. It cannot do nothing,'' he said.


But Boeing outsold Airbus in the market for more expensive long-haul planes, including for a new version of its most recognizable jetliner, the 747.


Airbus believes it has the upper hand with the A320neo, whose more efficient engines save airlines 15 percent in fuel costs, according to the company.


Analysts expect narrow-body planes, the backbone of the fast-growing budget airline market, to be a key battleground for orders between Airbus and Boeing at the biennial air show.


Boeing conceded it might lose some custom while it ponders the future of its 737. The firm said on Sunday it would decide by year-end on its new strategy.


China and Russia have a major presence at the air show as they look to muscle in on the two traditional passenger aircraft manufacturers, although their offerings still seem distant.


Moscow is currently pushing for Russian companies to up their spending in research and development as the government seeks to modernize and diversify the economy away from oil and gas and resources.


United Aircraft Corp will push its Sukhoi 100 superjet, and also has high hopes for its mid-sized airliner, the MC-21/MS-21

AirAsia expanding fleet to 500



June 22, 2011, 2:13am





SEPANG, Malaysia, June 21, 2011 (AFP) – AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes said he expects the airline to expand its fleet of jets from 93 to around 500 by 2020 to meet surging demand for air travel across the booming continent.''



It is really up to us how we take delivery but honestly 500 aircraft is very achievable,'' he told reporters after announcing a $200 million join-venture deal with Canadian firm CAE to run an airline training center.


Fernandes said AirAsia has placed an order of 175 A320 aircraft which will be fully delivered by 2015 but to meet its expansion plans in Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam it would need another 200 aircraft.


''We could be taking three planes a month by then (from 2015) which is 36 planes a year ... over five years that is another 200-odd planes,'' he said.


AirAsia has a fleet of 93 aircraft serving about 160 routes in Asia and over 520 flights daily from hubs in Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia. It will take delivery of another seven this year.


Fernandes made the remark amid reports the airline, which is the continent's largest budget carrier by fleet size, could be set to conclude a deal with Airbus for up to 200 Airbus A320 jets at this week's Paris Air Show.


The aviation tycoon declined to confirm the reports but said he will make a further announcement at the Le Bourget aviation show in the French capital on Thursday.


Earlier Fernandes said the Asian Aviation Academy will train pilots, cabin crew, maintenance workers and ground personnel for AirAsia and other airlines in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations region.


Montreal-based CAE provides simulation and modelling technologies and integrated training for civil aviation industry and defense forces

Airbus bags $15B, Boeing with $11B in new plane orders



By GREG KELLER and JAMEY KEATENJune 22, 2011, 2:07am





LE BOURGET, France (AP) - Airbus and Boeing signed over $25 billion in orders to kick off the Paris Air Show on Monday, but the European jet maker's appearance at the industry's biggest annual event suffered a setback when its star superjumbo clipped a wing.



The haul from the first day of the show was an improvement from recent years despite a challenging environment for the industry, which faces high fuel prices, a slowing global economy and uncertainty caused by violence in the Middle East and Japan's natural disasters.


Airbus topped the totals, signing orders and commitments for 142 aircraft worth $15 billion at list prices, the company said Monday.


Of note were firm orders for 90 of its A320neo, a version of the workhorse jet that's been revamped to make it more fuel efficient.


Rival Boeing countered with more than $11 billion worth of orders and commitments for 56 of its jets, including an order by Qatar Airways for six of its 777 jets in a $1.7 billion deal.


Airlines are particularly interested in energy-efficient models at this year's show - displays included biofuel and hybrid engines as well as a solar plane.


One star, Airbus' superjumbo A380, was grounded after breaking a wing tip on a taxiway structure, the latest in a string of embarrassments for the company.


The plane suffered the damage Sunday after a slow-speed collision with a building at the Le Bourget airport, where the world's largest and oldest aviation showcase is taking place, spokesman Alexander Reinhardt, of Airbus' holding company EADS, said Monday.


Airbus quickly found a replacement jet for demonstration flights during the air show, an A380 operated by Korean Air. But the planemaker is facing other setbacks.


The Airbus A400M military transport plane had to cancel a demonstration flight because of what the manufacturer described as a minor gearbox problem, although the aircraft made a fly-over during President Nicolas Sarkozy's visit to the air show on Monday. On Saturday, Airbus announced that two of the three versions of its new wide-body jet, the A350, would be delayed about two years.


The stretched A350-1000 is being pushed back to 2017 to give engine supplier Rolls Royce time to develop a more powerful motor that will extend the jet's range, Airbus said. The standard version of the plane, the A350-900, is still expected to arrive in the second half of 2013.


Airbus' chief salesman John Leahy defended the delay, saying the revamped A350-1000 would best rival Boeing's 777-300ER by flying 400 nautical miles further while burning 25 percent less fuel.


``Yes, we were supposed to come out in 2015, but customers said give us some extra performance and we can take the delay,'' he said.


Still, Akbar Al-Baker, CEO of Qatar Airways, said at a news conference with Boeing officials that he regretted hearing of ``significant delays'' in the Airbus A350 program.


Qatar Airways is the launch customer for the A350, and is due to receive the first jet in the second half of 2013. Half of the 80 A350s that Qatar Airways has ordered would be affected by the delay

the Tawi Tawi flight will replace the current ZAM-DVO-ZAM flight...

The new routing will be CEB-ZAM-SGS-ZAM-CEB and the DVO-ZAM will be re-timed by noon or early afternoon as CEB-DVO-ZAM-DVO-CEB...


Thanks for the Info. What type of aircraft will they use for CEB-ZAM-SGS and CEB-DVO-ZAM routes?

Thanks for the Info. What type of aircraft will they use for CEB-ZAM-SGS and CEB-DVO-ZAM routes?

^^

A319.

this seating configuration looks good for the 787

http://www.businesstraveller.com/news/first-look-inside-anas-787-dreamliner

on an Asiana A321 I found the 3x3 very tight even for a short flight

the Asiana 767 2 x 3 x 2 seating was much better.

This 787 looks almost like a 2x2x2x2 ...

havent ridden the A380 yet but this bigger Boeing already looks like a real challenger

http://www.businesstraveller.com/news/the-big-picture-boeing-unveils-747-8-interconti

which is more technologically advanced? the 380 or the 747-8?
does PAL's refurbished planes have mood lighting?

the Tawi Tawi flight will replace the current ZAM-DVO-ZAM flight...

The new routing will be CEB-ZAM-SGS-ZAM-CEB and the DVO-ZAM will be re-timed by noon or early afternoon as CEB-DVO-ZAM-DVO-CEB...


:okay:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-23/airbus-wins-record-18-billion-airasia-order.html

Airbus Wins Record $18 Billion AirAsia Deal for 200 Neo Jets

Airbus SAS won 200 orders for its A320neo jetliner from Malaysian discount carrier AirAsia Bhd. (AIRA), the biggest deal in the European planemaker’s history by aircraft numbers with a value of $18 billion at list prices.

AirAsia becomes Airbus’s No. 1 airline customer in the single-aisle market, with a total of 375 orders for A320-series aircraft, including 89 already in service, the Toulouse, France- based manufacturer said today at the Paris Air Show.

Airbus, a unit of European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., plans to introduce the re-engined A320neo from late 2015, promising efficiency gains of 15 percent versus existing narrow- body planes. Chicago-based Boeing Co. has yet to decide whether to upgrade its rival 737 aircraft or design a completely new jet.

“This landmark deal is the strongest endorsement yet of our decision to invest in the development of the A320neo,” Airbus Chief Executive Officer Tom Enders said at a press conference at the Paris show, adding that the neo has become “by far” the fastest selling airliner in the history of aviation.

The AirAsia contract capped a record air show for Airbus, which won 418 firm orders valued at $44 billion. The A320neo, with a list price of $91.2 million, attracted 667 orders and commitments worth almost $61 billion, taking the total since the model’s December launch to 1,029.
CFM Victory

AirAsia chose the Leap-X engine from CFM International, a venture of General Electric Co. (GE) and Safran SA (SAF), to power the planes. Two engines go on each aircraft, giving the order a value of about $4.8 billion based on list prices.

The Leap-X competes with the geared turbofan from United Technologies Corp. (UTX)’s Pratt & Whitney unit.

For AirAsia, the deal “has secured its future with the ability to meet the huge growth potential offered by the Asian market,” Tony Fernandes, the carrier’s CEO, said at the briefing.

With its main hub in Sepang, outside Kuala Lumpur, AirAsia flies to more than 20 countries and has affiliates in Thailand and Indonesia, according to its website, while the AirAsia X division offers long-haul services.

“I don’t think it’s aggressive,” Angeline Chin, an analyst at Kuala Lumpur-based TA Securities Holdings Bhd. said in a telephone interview ahead of the announcement. “If the company believes that it can grow further, why not?”

AirAsia stock closed unchanged at 3.16 ringgit in Kuala Lumpur before the order announcement. It has risen 25 percent this year, valuing the company at 8.77 billion ringgit ($2.89 billion) and outpacing the 2.9 percent gain in Malaysia’s benchmark FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index.

EADS rose as much as 2.4 percent to 22.38 euros and was trading little changed at 21.83 euros as of 3 p.m. in Paris.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-22/american-said-to-be-in-talks-for-100-airbus-single-aisle-planes.html

American Said to Be In Talks for 100 Airbus Single-Aisle Planes

AMR Corp. (AMR)’s American Airlines is in talks with Airbus SAS about buying at least 100 narrow-body planes, a possible break from its longtime reliance on Boeing Co. (BA) jets, two people familiar with the matter said.

The board of the third-largest U.S. carrier may make a decision as soon as July, said one of the people, who asked not to be identified because the discussions are private. Jets from Airbus’s A320 series would replace American’s less-efficient models such as Boeing 757s and MD-80s, the people said.

An order at American would buoy Airbus as it tries to crack Boeing’s grip on single-aisle plane sales to the biggest U.S. airlines. It would also add to pressure on Boeing, which is deciding whether to match Airbus and put upgraded engines on its 737 or wait to build a new jet by 2020 with more fuel savings.

“We’ll do everything we can to retain American Airlines as a Boeing customer,” Marlin Dailey, the Chicago-based company’s sales chief, said in an interview yesterday at the Paris Air Show. “I wouldn’t say they’re drawn more to Airbus. They obviously are seriously evaluating their options.”

An A320 has a list price of $85 million, giving a potential American order a value of about $8.5 billion. Airlines typically buy planes at a discount.
‘Increase Complexity’

“We assume AMR is attempting to seek out price concessions from Boeing” or urge 737 efficiency gains, Will Randow, a Citigroup Inc. analyst in New York, said in a note to clients. “The addition of Airbus narrow-body aircraft to the fleet would likely increase complexity and potentially costs in regards to maintenance, network planning, and other areas.”

Stefan Schaffrath, a spokesman for Toulouse, France-based Airbus, said the company doesn’t discuss conversations with potential customers. Fort Worth, Texas-based AMR doesn’t comment “on rumors and speculation,” said Roger Frizzell, a spokesman.

AMR fell 10 cents, or 1.7 percent, to $5.75 yesterday in New York Stock Exchange composite trading, while Boeing slid $1.86, or 2.5 percent, to $72.12 for the worst drop among 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Airbus parent European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. gained as much as 2 percent to 22.29 euros in Paris today.
Second-Largest Fleet

American’s main jet fleet is the world’s second-largest, behind Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL)’s, according to industry researcher Ascend. It consists only of Boeings, and the carrier’s last Airbus jet flew in 2009. Delta has a mix of Boeing and Airbus planes, as does United Continental Holdings Inc. (UAL), whose United and Continental units are still tallied separately. United Continental and Delta are the biggest airlines by traffic.

The 216 twin-engine MD-80s at American are among the oldest jets at major U.S. airlines, with many logging more than 20 years of service, and they burn more fuel than the single-aisle 737s the company now has on order.

Airbus may manage another upset later this year when Delta decides on an order for as many as 200 narrowbodies over a range of capacities. Nat Pieper, the Delta fleet strategy chief, said earlier this year that the company was looking at all of the available options.

The Boeing 737 is the world’s most widely flown airliner and competes with the A320 family in the biggest segment of the civil airline market. Airbus will start shipping its upgraded A320neo with revamped engines in 2015, a plane that has become the company’s fastest seller on the strength of more than 600 commitments since its unveiling in December.
Fuel Savings

Airlines crave fuel economy because jet fuel is, with labor, one of their biggest costs.

No major U.S. airline has yet ordered from the A320neo family, so a deal with American would bolster Airbus’s efforts to market the model to other large carriers. Boeing for many years had exclusivity clauses in contracts with American Airlines, Continental Airlines and Delta Air, an accord that came under scrutiny and was eventually scrapped as part of European approval for Boeing’s $15.5 billion purchase of McDonnell Douglas Corp in the late 1990s.

A320s with upgraded engines and new, modified wingtips that Airbus calls sharklets are a good replacement for the Boeing 757 on so-called long, thin routes -- long-haul flights with passenger travel demand to profitably fill a single-aisle jet, not a wide-body aircraft, according to C. Jeffrey Knittel, president of transportation finance at CIT Group Inc. (CIT)
Mission Coverage

“Airlines are looking for those types of planes,” Knittel said June 21 after the lessor ordered 50 planes from the A320neo family. “And while this aircraft doesn’t cover 100 percent of the missions, it covers most of them.”

Boeing understands “the challenge we’ve been given,” Dailey, the sales chief, said when asked about the status of the company’s talks with American, adding that it wouldn’t be appropriate to discuss details about a sales campaign.

“You never know how things play out,” he said. “We’re moving. Working it hard.”

Captain John Hale, American’s chief pilot, said he couldn’t confirm or deny whether the carrier had already chosen a supplier for new narrow-body jets.

“We’re always going to look at every opportunity to create value for our airline, our shareholders and our customers,” Hale said in an interview yesterday at the air show, where American and Boeing announced a trial program for fuel- efficiency improvements. “We’re very measured and we do our homework before we do anything.”
Paris Orders

American’s main jet fleet consists of 613 planes, according to the company, with the MD-80s the most-numerous type and 153 737s. It began taking deliveries of the new 737-800 model in 2009, and is scheduled to get the last of those planes in 2013. American has 124 757s.

An A300, which is no longer in production, made American’s last flight with an Airbus plane, in August 2009. At the end of March, American still had 10 of the twin-engine, wide-body planes on its books as leased or owned but not in operation.

Airbus and Boeing have an almost equal share of the global single-aisle market, and Airbus has sought to extend its position by offering new engines on its A320 by the end of 2015.

The A320neo won more than 300 orders during the first three days of the Paris Air Show. Boeing, which says it will take the rest of the year to decide on re-engining or building an all-new model, tallied 75 orders for the 737.