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oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 05:32 AM
That's why I was surprised to see a big banner proclaiming "World Class Shopping at Robinsons" a long time ago in one of their newly opened malls. :)

WawaY[625]
November 23rd, 2006, 05:38 AM
world-class sounding naman ang "robinsons" eh..LMAO

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 07:23 AM
^^Halos lahat naman ng Robinsons kakaunti yung tao. pwera na lng siguro sa Galleria at Robinsons Manila. Kahit nga yung nandun sa Iloilo kakaunti din yung tao. Malakas pa rin ang hatak ng dalawang SM dun. With regards to Starmills... they spent a lot with the exterior but not much with the interior. We park there kasi kunti yung tao but we go to SM instead. Hehe...

Kung tao lang naman na pumapasok sa malls ang tanong, grabe. Try going to Galle and you'll know. Halos lagi kaming may nakakabangga habang naglalakad eh. At dahil na rin siguro sa mga taong pumapasok kaya nagmukha na siyang dugyot sa ibang parts.

oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 07:33 AM
^^Kaya exception sa mga Robinsons mall na kakaunti lng tao are Robinsons Galleria and Robinsons Place Manila. I don't really like Galleria since parking is limited and sasayad yung sasakyan namin sa basement parking nila. It already happened twice (different drivers kasi :ohno: )! Minimum height clearance for us is 2.10 m. Unless we park across Holiday Inn along ADB Avenue.

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 07:36 AM
^^ Isa pang ayaw ko dun kasi kalat-kalat ang stores sa loob ng Galle. Nakakalito kung nasaan ung ganitong store, tapos magtataka ka kasi ang katabing store, iba ung genre. Sabi sakin, nagkaron na daw ng zoning, pero palpak pa rin eh.:ohno:

oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 07:38 AM
^^Exactly.. different wings with different levels and different access via escalators. :nuts:

bonixx
November 23rd, 2006, 07:42 AM
^^Exactly.. different wings with different levels and different access via escalators. :nuts:


i think strategy yun ng Robinsons the more na nakakapagod the more na marami kang bibilihin una magugutom ka, mauuhaw ka,then dahil nga sa ibat ibang place eh tiyak may madadaanan ka pang pwedeng bilihin exept pa sa tunay na gusto mo.intelligent...:lol:

WawaY[625]
November 23rd, 2006, 07:48 AM
^^ kung intelligent ang strategy ng Robinsons, bat more often than not eh pinapatay ng mga SM ang mga kalapit nila na Robinsons? :lol:

Sinjin P.
November 23rd, 2006, 07:48 AM
Mas gusto ko yung mga malls na may zoning.

bonixx
November 23rd, 2006, 07:55 AM
;10589608']^^ kung intelligent ang strategy ng Robinsons, bat more often than not eh pinapatay ng mga SM ang mga kalapit nila na Robinsons? :lol:

May ahas daw kasi sa Basement ng Robinsons ahehehe. Well kung akong tatanungin i like SM the Robinsons kasi unang una mas kumpleto, sa boutique naman mas maraming branded na tenant ang SM , sa sinehan naman mas maganda ang seats ng Movietime.Pero supermarket Robinsons ako kasi konti ang pila ahehehe.:lol:

FrancisXavier
November 23rd, 2006, 07:56 AM
Mas gusto ko yung mga malls na may zoning.

kaya lang pag lunch or dinner time siksikan na ang mga tao..

Sinjin P.
November 23rd, 2006, 07:56 AM
;10589608']^^ kung intelligent ang strategy ng Robinsons, bat more often than not eh pinapatay ng mga SM ang mga kalapit nila na Robinsons? :lol:

Baka sleeping giant ang Robinsons... Being one of the giants in the retail business, matagal ding natulog ang Robinsons. Ngayon lang siguro sila gumising, at evident naman kasi nirerenovate nila ang mga malls nila :okay:

bonixx
November 23rd, 2006, 08:04 AM
Baka sleeping giant ang Robinsons... Being one of the giants in the retail business, matagal ding natulog ang Robinsons. Ngayon lang siguro sila gumising, at evident naman kasi nirerenovate nila ang mga malls nila :okay:

yes for example SM Fairview and Robinsons nova,Sa laki at sa crowd walang sinabi ang Robinsons pero ngaun nagconstruct nang Nova stop and terminal ang Robinsons kaya medyo ok na ang labanan ahehehe

oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 08:12 AM
IMO, parang underfunded ang mga feasibility study para sa mga Robinsons malls. Their inadequacy (size, zoning, tenant mix & other facilities) are magnified especially when they're built close to a competitor especially the SM supermalls and this is not only prevalent in Mega Manila - Rob Galleria vs. SM Megamall, Rob Novaliches vs. SM Fairview, Rob Starmills vs. SM San Fernando, Rob Dasmariñas vs. SM Dasmariñas. :)

laquacherra
November 23rd, 2006, 08:38 AM
^^ imo i think it is better for a Robinson's to be beside an SM to take advantage of the high pedestrian traffic (SM being such a crowd drawer) as well as spill over crowd from SM... besides yung mga solo na robinson's like the one at pioneer (in Pasig or Mandaluyong?) doesn't look like they're doing well... seems to me, on their own they can't draw people into their malls the way SM can

JustHorace
November 23rd, 2006, 08:50 AM
yes for example SM Fairview and Robinsons nova,Sa laki at sa crowd walang sinabi ang Robinsons pero ngaun nagconstruct nang Nova stop and terminal ang Robinsons kaya medyo ok na ang labanan ahehehe

Not really. SM Fairview, I think, has the third highest traffic (or fourth after MoA opened) among SM malls. That just shows that there is a huge market in that area. And it seems to me that Robinsons is just getting a small fraction of them. Their only customers are the "spillover" shoppers from SM, or the bakya crowd taking advantage of the air conditioning.

_zner_
November 23rd, 2006, 09:11 AM
diba halos wala ng stores sa rob nova especially in the upper floors?

JustHorace
November 23rd, 2006, 09:31 AM
^^Yup. I don't even know why pinagpipilitan pa rin nilang patakbuhin ang cinemas nila. Its second and third floors are deserted, if not puro tiangge.

Sinjin P.
November 23rd, 2006, 10:30 AM
I think the Robinsons Malls lack publicity... And imo, those deserted Robinsons malls deserve a total overhaul

LhexiMont
November 23rd, 2006, 10:53 AM
Which stand alone mall in Metro Manila located on a CBD ( mini or major ) has the biggest land area nowadays ? Is it

A. SM Mall of Asia
B. Festival Supermall
C. SM Megamall
D. Glorrietta ( 1-4 )
E. Greenbelt
f. Market ! Market
G. Alabang Town Center

bonixx
November 23rd, 2006, 11:38 AM
Not really. SM Fairview, I think, has the third highest traffic (or fourth after MoA opened) among SM malls. That just shows that there is a huge market in that area. And it seems to me that Robinsons is just getting a small fraction of them. Their only customers are the "spillover" shoppers from SM, or the bakya crowd taking advantage of the air conditioning.

Atleast di ba di tulad dati as in nagclose na yung Dept store and Movies ng Rob. Good job ang paglalagay nila ng teletech dun Para may permanent shoppers sila,kung Market naman ang paguusapan napakaraming Shoppers comming from Fairview,Caloocan Bagong silang,Bulacan and Lagro as far as i know. Siguro Baguhin nila yung Logo nila :lol: i think Logo has a big impact Ganda kasi ng Logo ng SM Mukhang Friendly.sa Rob no comment opinyon lang po^^

Sinjin P.
November 23rd, 2006, 11:40 AM
I agree though na hindi pangmasa or hindi appealing in a way ang logo ng Robinsons ;)

richard24
November 23rd, 2006, 11:40 AM
IMO, parang underfunded ang mga feasibility study para sa mga Robinsons malls. Their inadequacy (size, zoning, tenant mix & other facilities) are magnified especially when they're built close to a competitor especially the SM supermalls and this is not only prevalent in Mega Manila - Rob Galleria vs. SM Megamall, Rob Novaliches vs. SM Fairview, Rob Starmills vs. SM San Fernando, Rob Dasmariñas vs. SM Dasmariñas. :)

iba naman sa robinsons cainta... dahil imbis na itabi niya sa isang SM, inilagay nila ito halos ilang kilometro lamang ang layo sa Robinsons metro east. metro east being the survivor..

kaya ang tenant ng cainta......, teletech. :)

bonixx
November 23rd, 2006, 11:46 AM
I agree though na hindi pangmasa or hindi appealing in a way ang logo ng Robinsons ;)


Yahoo!buo ang araw ko kasi agree si Sinjin :lol: ,Well iba talaga ang Dating ng Logo ng Rob sad to say kelangan nilang mag feng shui sa isang pinakamagaling na expert,magaling na expert pa aheheheh.O kaya kunin kami ni Sinjin na Adviser na RLC:cheers:

Sinjin P.
November 23rd, 2006, 11:48 AM
I would really love to work for a mall chain since I myself am a confessed mall rat, I've been here and there. Pwede mo pa nga akong tanungin ng pedestrian count sa mall :lol:

bonixx
November 23rd, 2006, 11:51 AM
ako SM lang Alam ko aheheh kasi nagwowork Sis ko dun .well Birong totoo yun sana may makabasang Management ng Rob dito hahahah

JustHorace
November 23rd, 2006, 12:05 PM
Saka I think Robinsons Nova's interiors are not that visually appealing. Poor lighting pa. I don't like the tile colors, grills, etc. And the mall's ground area is just as big as the grocery's. If only they can expand the mall.

Anyway, diba Robinsons Manila is Rob's largest? or is it Galleria?

Sinjin P.
November 23rd, 2006, 12:15 PM
^ Galleria is currently the largest at 216,000 square meters and Ermita (Manila) is at 177,000 square meters. Ermita will soon overtake Galleria when it will be added some 60,000 square meters of mall area

JustHorace
November 23rd, 2006, 12:26 PM
^^Thanks sinj! Nice! At least we're seeing improvements now for Robinsons Manila. The mall is getting quite old...still a hit though!

WawaY[625]
November 23rd, 2006, 01:28 PM
Which stand alone mall in Metro Manila located on a CBD ( mini or major ) has the biggest land area nowadays ? Is it

A. SM Mall of Asia
B. Festival Supermall
C. SM Megamall
D. Glorrietta ( 1-4 )
E. Greenbelt
f. Market ! Market
G. Alabang Town Center

though magkaiba sila ng pangalan, shouldnt Glorietta and greenbelt be considered one enitity? (along with landmark, parksquare, sm etc) since isang complex lang naman sila.

thomasian
November 23rd, 2006, 03:06 PM
Thanks sinj! Nice! At least we're seeing improvements now for Robinsons Manila. The mall is getting quite old...still a hit though!

Because it's the only big mall from a recognizable brand in that area. The market doesn't really have much of a choice, so it'll automatically be a hit.

ishtefh_03
November 23rd, 2006, 03:08 PM
yun rin ang pinagtataka ko sa stalls ng robinsons starmills, ang daming vacant, ang daming nagsasara... tapos dati bumaba pa yung floor nya, nagka crack sya...:D

OtAkAw
November 23rd, 2006, 03:19 PM
^^THe San Fernando Gate Area of Starmills is almost empty.

WawaY[625]
November 23rd, 2006, 03:29 PM
so starmills is a failure huh? bat naman ganun ang robinsons? nag ooperate sila ng palugi?

ishtefh_03
November 23rd, 2006, 03:32 PM
tapos sira na ung lights nyang iba... :D

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 03:36 PM
^^ As someone posted, mahina ang project studies ng Robinsons. Hindi tulad sa SM na they delve into everything before even announcing that they are interested in this particular place.

^^ imo i think it is better for a Robinson's to be beside an SM to take advantage of the high pedestrian traffic (SM being such a crowd drawer) as well as spill over crowd from SM... besides yung mga solo na robinson's like the one at pioneer (in Pasig or Mandaluyong?) doesn't look like they're doing well... seems to me, on their own they can't draw people into their malls the way SM can

True. But then again, spill over lang ang nakukuha nila, not the main course itself kumbaga. Parang natulog kasi sa kangkungan ang Robinsons while SM was eagerly expanding its market. Ayan tuloy. Sobrang walang-wala na ang Rob sa SM kahit saang lugar.

^^Exactly.. different wings with different levels and different access via escalators. :nuts:

Correct. Parang St. Francis. Nakakalito.

I think the Robinsons Malls lack publicity... And imo, those deserted Robinsons malls deserve a total overhaul

Publicity lacking? I don't think so. Isn't advertising in major newspapers, magazines, TV stations, radio stations, etc. enough? Mahina lang talaga ang marketing strategy nila.

I agree though na hindi pangmasa or hindi appealing in a way ang logo ng Robinsons ;)

Maganda naman ang logo ng Robinsons ah. For me mas maganda pa nga ang logo nila kesa SM.

WawaY[625]
November 23rd, 2006, 03:39 PM
medyo snobbish nga ang dating ng logo ng Robinsons IMO,pati pangalan na Robinsons..tsaka yung interiors ng Robinsons..wala pa akong Robinsons na napuntahan na na appreciate ko ang interiors (parang gloomy na parang ewan ang dating)

except for Robinsons Place Cagayan de Oro na ok naman ang dating sa akin..pero di ko naman kasi dama na robinsons yun, parang part ng Limketkai..dapat siguro ganun ginagawa ng Robinson, dumikit sa mas malaking malls para mabuhay..lols

ishtefh_03
November 23rd, 2006, 03:40 PM
^^ about lacking in publicity, kilala naman ang robinsons eh, di lang malakas sa mga tao.

correct ka dyan sa mga logo, kakaiba nga mga signage ng robinsons eh.

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 03:45 PM
^^ Un nga ang sabi ko. Kilala sila, kaso hindi lang talaga magaling humila ng mga mamimili.

thomasian
November 23rd, 2006, 04:09 PM
Correct. Parang St. Francis. Nakakalito.

Eh kaya mo nga ako kasama sa St. Francis para hindi ka maligaw, unless iligaw kita purposely. :tongue2:

Maganda naman ang logo ng Robinsons ah. For me mas maganda pa nga ang logo nila kesa SM.

Mas maganda nga logo ng Robinsons, I must say that they really do take pride in their logo. I saw in Informatics a letter from RLC regarding the posting of tarpaulin signages within the mall, some rules are, may Robinsons logo dapat and bawal magkaroon ng logo ng "competitor malls".

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 04:15 PM
Eh kaya mo nga ako kasama sa St. Francis para hindi ka maligaw, unless iligaw kita purposely. :tongue2:

So if you had the chance, ililigaw mo ako?:(

oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 04:21 PM
^^At napansin ko sa Robinsons ay they have the most awkward placement of parking areas like Rob Manila where parking is all the way up and Galleria with disorganized entrance/exit to the basement parking. It's good that the basement parking got a coat of paint lately but before, oh man, you can see soot all over and I don't think I can last there since ventilation is poor and vertical clearance is kinda low. poor me, might end up having an asthma attack there. :ohno:

If I may add... ba't puro Robinsons na lng pinag-uusapan natin dito, ha? :lol:

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 04:24 PM
^^ Kasi Rob ang malakas ngayon eh. In the coming days, SM and Ayala ulit yan.:lol:

thomasian
November 23rd, 2006, 04:30 PM
^^At napansin ko sa Robinsons ay they have the most awkward placement of parking areas like Rob Manila where parking is all the way up and Galleria with disorganized entrance/exit to the basement parking. It's good that the basement parking got a coat of paint lately but before, oh man, you can see soot all over and I don't think I can last there since ventilation is poor and vertical clearance is kinda low. poor me, might end up having an asthma attack there. :ohno:

If I may add... ba't puro Robinsons na lng pinag-uusapan natin dito, ha? :lol:

Haha, nainis din yung dad ko sa parking ng Robinsons Manila noon eh kasi ang taas-taas daw. Tapos yung sa Galle naman eh nakakaligaw daw. I did notice na pagkagaling mo ng mall, pagbalik mo ng parking ng Galle, mararamdaman mo na biglang sobrang mainit at medyo kulob yung dating nung hangin.

So if you had the chance, ililigaw mo ako?:(

Why not! O diba, hide-and-seek tayo, ang saya, and we have the whole mall as our playground. :D Unless ayaw mo ng tagu-taguan, ipapakita ko na lang siya sa'yo :naughty: , I mean, magpapakita na ako sa'yo, haha. Pero don't worry, hindi ko 'yan gagawin sa'yo sa Sabado. ;)

oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 04:35 PM
^^More IA moments? at sa robinsons pa! :D

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 04:36 PM
^^ Mabuti naman. Hehe. Pero try nating magtagu-taguan sa Podium. Tapos dun mo na sa sinehan ipakita, I mean, dun ka sa sinehan magpakita sakin para makanood na tayo ng Happy Feet.:D

Tapos yung sa Galle naman eh nakakaligaw daw.

Halos maligaw ako dun sa papuntang ibaba ng Galle. Kasi naghahanap ako ng CR tapos pinababa ako ng guard. Nalito ako kasi pag baba ko, puro pinto at glass sa parking area. At pag tinignan mo from the inside, masyadong madilim. Mukhang suffocating siya sa mga taong pumupunta sa ilalim.

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 04:40 PM
^^More IA moments? at sa robinsons pa! :D

Ang pangit naman kung sa Rob kami mag-a-IA moments.:lol: Namili pa daw ng lugar?:lol:

But in all fairness, I understand why Aaron loves the Podium than any other malls in the metro. May something siya that makes you feel at home, laid-back, and cozy. Ewan. Nagustuhan ko nga rin ang Podium ng pinuntahan namin kahit first time ko pa lang.

thomasian
November 23rd, 2006, 04:40 PM
Mabuti naman. Hehe. Pero try nating magtagu-taguan sa Podium. Tapos dun mo na sa sinehan ipakita, I mean, dun ka sa sinehan magpakita sakin para makanood na tayo ng Happy Feet.


FYI, maliit lang ang sinehan ng Podium saka konti lang lagi ang mga nanonood na tao, para siya tuloy private theater. 100 seater, 10 rows, with ten seats per row, tapos reserved seating, wala lang. :D

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 04:49 PM
And what does that big grin mean?:D

Ayan, naOP na tuloy si oboi_1. Hindi na nagshe-share about Metro Manila Malls. Si Aaron kasi eh. :D

LhexiMont
November 23rd, 2006, 04:50 PM
In fairness naman sa Robinsons , okay naman ang track record nila pagdating sa mga high rise projects nila . Maybe they should focus on that , sa mga mixed-used mall/highrise complex kasi succeeding sila dun .

Magiging five towers na pala ang nasa Robinson Place Manila ( twin tower Residences at yung upcoming three tower na Adriatico Residences at kapag nagawa na yung Midtown mall ay magiging 240,000 sq. meters ang gross floor area nito , making it the biggest mall of Robinson and dislodging Robinson Galleria which currently has three towers in it ( excluding Robinson -Equitable tower )

thomasian
November 23rd, 2006, 04:55 PM
And what does that big grin mean?:D

Ah, yung big grin? You'll find out on Saturday what that BIG is, I mean what that big grin means. :D

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 04:57 PM
^^ I'll expect that on Saturday.:D

@Lheximont: So true. But we're talking about stand-alone malls here, not mall/high-rise complexes. ;)

oboi
November 23rd, 2006, 05:12 PM
And what does that big grin mean?:D

Ayan, naOP na tuloy si oboi_1. Hindi na nagshe-share about Metro Manila Malls. Si Aaron kasi eh. :D

Don't worry. I'm watching all these IA moments unfold. I'm enjoying a bucketful of popcorn here. Hehehe...

But back to the topic. I think Robinsons needs to realign and refocus the direction it wants to go. Robinsons is trying to attract the upper market but their malls don't look seem like it's designed for that market segment. :)

kevinb
November 23rd, 2006, 05:15 PM
^^ Not so upper market. Probably around middle-class to upper-class. I think madami silang dapat na ayusin, hindi ko lang ma pinpoint lahat 'coz I'm not so good in marketing. All I know is there's something wrong in their strategies that's why people aren't chasing after them.

kennethologist
November 23rd, 2006, 05:22 PM
from the SM MOA thread: (posted by thomasian)

SMIC Hikes ’07 Capex Budget To P20-B
Philippine Daily Inquirer - 11/14/2006

Holding firm SM Investments Corp. (SMIC), of the
mall mogul Henry Sy, has raised its capital spending
budget for next year to P20-B from P15-B,
mostly for resort and mall projects, a company
official said. It is likely to finance 35-40% of the
budget with dollar-denominated debts, executive
vice president Jose Sio told reporters. About P7-
B will be for building new malls in Bacolod City
and Metro Manila’s Taytay town, expanding malls
in Cebu City, Pampanga province and the Fairview
area of Quezon City, and further developing the
flagship Mall of Asia in Metro Manila, Sio said. Another
P7-B is for a 5,700-hectare resort project
in Nasugbu town in Batangas province, south of
Manila and other property projects, he said. About
P2-B will be for building ten department stores,
supermarkets and hypermarkets to have a total
of 76 next year, he added. The Batangas project
envisions converting 13 coves into an integrated
network of coastal resort communities over 20-
30 years. The first cove development is to be
launched in the first quarter of 2007. This year,
SM Investments will likely surpass its profit target
of P9.5 billion, as it will absorb the SM group’s 28
supermarkets and nine hypermarkets, Sio said. The
company reported a net income of P7.1-B in 2005.
It recently got approval of the Securities and Exchange
Commission to integrate SM Supermarkets
and SM Hypermarkets into its retail business.
The stores are worth P13-B. In the first three
quarters of this year, SMIC reported a net income
of P7.5-B, up 38% from the same period last year.

--------------------

another expansion for SM City Faiview!! wow... they just added an annex 2 years ago tapos expansion again! ... so ganun kataas ang demand for mall spaces at SM fairview samantalang nilalangaw ung katapat na Rob Nova...

i hope they spend the money renovating their worn out cinemas!

Aragon
November 23rd, 2006, 09:12 PM
In fairness naman sa Robinsons , okay naman ang track record nila pagdating sa mga high rise projects nila . Maybe they should focus on that , sa mga mixed-used mall/highrise complex kasi succeeding sila dun .

Magiging five towers na pala ang nasa Robinson Place Manila ( twin tower Residences at yung upcoming three tower na Adriatico Residences at kapag nagawa na yung Midtown mall ay magiging 240,000 sq. meters ang gross floor area nito , making it the biggest mall of Robinson and dislodging Robinson Galleria which currently has three towers in it ( excluding Robinson -Equitable tower )

di ba I've read that back in august john gokongwei is giving half of his fortunes to his foundation.....about 10 B pesos ata yun.....

LhexiMont
November 23rd, 2006, 11:54 PM
^^ I'll expect that on Saturday.:D

@Lheximont: So true. But we're talking about stand-alone malls here, not mall/high-rise complexes. ;)

Yeah , I know ..I just want to point out that on a bright note , Robinson's mixed-used complexes are doing well in business while most of their stand -alone malls are not.
:)

Sinjin P.
November 24th, 2006, 09:44 AM
Manila’s retail space too saturated for growth
By Ruby Anne M. Rubio
Source: News Clippings-BusinessWorld

Metro Manila’s retail space vacancy rate is expected to remain at 15% until yearend, according to property services firm Colliers International (Philippines), Inc. Colliers Philippines director for Research and Consultancy Richard Raymundo said in an interview yesterday that Metro Manila is already saturated with malls.

Amid intensifying competition, Ayala Land, Inc. (ALI), the country’s largest property developer, and SM Prime Holdings, Inc. are now expanding in niche locations. "If you look at vacancy rate of SM and ALI, their vacancy rate is less than 10%.

Metro Manila is already saturated. Property firms are either expanding outside Metro Manila or on niche locations such as the San Lazaro, where SM is, or ALI’s Tri Noma [Triangle North of Manila]," Mr. Raymundo noted.

Mr. Raymundo said stock of retail space "marginally increased" in the third quarter to 4.32 million square meters with the completion of SM Supercenter in Pasig. A supercenter is a new format that the Sy-led company will roll out in smaller municipalities, SM Prime President Hans Sy said earlier.

Mr. Raymundo also noted rents in Ayala Center softened by nearly 1% quarter on quarter at an average of P1,176 per square meter per month.

In Ortigas, rents were unchanged at P935/sq.m./mo. He sees rent rising by 5% by yearend. In its quarterly research report, Colliers Philippines also said developers are now focused on peripheral locations like Fort Bonifacio and Eastwood City amid a construction lull in the Makati central business district (CBD).

"There is no office development under construction within the Makati CBD. The stock of office accomodation in the CBD is expected to remain at 2.65 million square meters," it said. Colliers Philippines expects rates to breach P1,000 by late 2007, and rent escalation at 20% next year.

The premium grade segment rose by nearly 4% quarter on quarter to average P798/sq.m./mo. Colliers said Makati CBD should "remain at a premium" compared to Fort Bonifacio due to its critical mass.

ishtefh_03
November 24th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Don't worry. I'm watching all these IA moments unfold. I'm enjoying a bucketful of popcorn here. Hehehe...

But back to the topic. I think Robinsons needs to realign and refocus the direction it wants to go. Robinsons is trying to attract the upper market but their malls don't look seem like it's designed for that market segment. :)

and also re design some of the interior, like the fountain in starmills (sensya, starmills ako lagi taga pampanga kase ako eh), pang asar!!! and dumi na tapos sira na ung mga tubig na iba pati ilaw!!! :D

WawaY[625]
November 26th, 2006, 02:53 AM
dati may fountain and amphitheatre ang Victoria PLaza, tapos tinabunan nila..bad fengshui daw ata...baka yun angproblema ng Robinsons..tingan nyo ang Robinsons Cdeo and CEbu, kahiut maliit, pero dahil walang fountain, malakas....:D

MarkiiBoi
November 26th, 2006, 03:38 AM
^^ may fountain ang Robi Cebu.

WawaY[625]
November 26th, 2006, 03:41 AM
meron pala?haha my bad, wala man ko nakit-an when i was there..asa banda ang fountain? how big?

MarkiiBoi
November 26th, 2006, 03:48 AM
^^ right in front of the main entrance. its kinda small, maybe 7-8 ft lang. si slerz may pic.

gridloc
November 26th, 2006, 03:53 AM
Construction Update Greenbelt 5:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/ABCD0015-1.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/ABCD0014-1.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/ABCD0013-1.jpg

slerz
November 26th, 2006, 03:57 AM
;10622980']meron pala?haha my bad, wala man ko nakit-an when i was there..asa banda ang fountain? how big?

Robi Cebu fountain...
Kahil maliit, may agas pa rin:D
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c396/Slerz2/frobinsons.jpg

WawaY[625]
November 26th, 2006, 04:00 AM
aw basi ang bad feng shui tungmga big fountains...:lol: kita mo sa fountain sa Victoria Plaza amphitheatre sauna?hastang dakoa pwede ka mag swimming...:D

richard24
November 29th, 2006, 10:53 AM
toys r us

robinsons metro east

http://i11.tinypic.com/4784y0h.jpg

(i found the best monopoly game ever!!!!!!!)
binili agad namin!!!

http://i13.tinypic.com/2wr0nkk.jpg

four cities are featured... MANILA, CEBU, LAOAG, DAVAO (streets ng cities na iyan ang mga andun...) pati airports.... and its in PESOS... :) sobrang saya... :)

Sinjin P.
November 29th, 2006, 11:27 AM
Goodie, Toys R Us in Robinsons Metro East! :bow: Pero mukhang nilalangaw?!? :lol:

WawaY[625]
November 29th, 2006, 11:39 AM
^^ meron kaya nung monopoly sa toy kingdom?

richard24
November 29th, 2006, 11:53 AM
^^ ang meron ata sa toy kingdom ay yung monopoly na spongebob edition... philippine edition lang ang available na monopoly dito sa toys r us...

@sinj... 10am yan kanina... kaya konti lang tao... nag x-mas shopping na kami para sa mga kiddies... inabot kami ng ilang oras din... mas maliit ata ito compared sa toys r us galleria... (although i havent seen ung sa toys sa galle)

OtAkAw
November 29th, 2006, 12:43 PM
I've always wanted to play monopoly when I was a kid, too bad my fascination lapsed.

thomasian
November 29th, 2006, 02:03 PM
Greenbelt 5, Phase-1


11.24.06

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_112406_043x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_112406_047x.jpg

Paul's pic, enhanced. With an arrow pointing to the part on the next u/c update.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/DSC00414x.jpg

This is the part with the arrow on the previous pic.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_112406_046x.jpg

Another of Paul's pic, enhanced also.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/DSC00419x.jpg

GB5, Phase-2
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_112406_048x.jpg

GB5, Phase-2. Phase-1 visible on the right with two underground parking levels.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_112406_050x.jpg

pau_p1
November 29th, 2006, 02:18 PM
is it phase2 of Greenbelt 5 or is it a renovated section for Greenbelt 1, since that is the demolished side of Greenbelt 1...

thomasian
November 29th, 2006, 02:39 PM
It is Phase-2, a brand new section attached to GB1 (the remaining undemolished part of the mall, the parking building, and the theaters.) and to Phase-1. You'll notice in the rendering (thanks to your pic) that all the currently remaining parts of GB1 are there plus GB5-Phase2 which covers almost the whole of GB1 except the theater bldg. on the top-left of the rendering.

kevinb
November 29th, 2006, 02:39 PM
So kaharap lang pala ng SM City North EDSA ang TriNoMa. At ang laki.:eek:

bonixx
November 29th, 2006, 09:25 PM
So kaharap lang pala ng SM City North EDSA ang TriNoMa. At ang laki.:eek:

oo kaharap lang sya ng SM north,Pero mas accessible ang North Traingle sa MRT .

ishtefh_03
November 30th, 2006, 04:21 AM
oo kaharap lang sya ng SM north,Pero mas accessible ang North Traingle sa MRT .

correct!!! malayo kase ang MRT station sa SM north...

kennethologist
November 30th, 2006, 01:29 PM
oo kaharap lang sya ng SM north,Pero mas accessible ang North Traingle sa MRT .

not actually... kasi katapat ng SM is ung parking area for trinoma... the mall proper near mindanao avenue

bonixx
November 30th, 2006, 02:52 PM
not actually... kasi katapat ng SM is ung parking area for trinoma... the mall proper near mindanao avenue

yes opinion ko lang yun pero sakin compare sa sm na tatawid kapa pag galing kang MRT mas accesible parin ang North triangle mall.kahit sa mindanao ave. ganun pa rin halos pareho lang sila.

Sinjin P.
November 30th, 2006, 03:57 PM
In my opinion, Trinoma is by all means more accessible. I know that Ayala will continue to pour more on this huge investment, another mall from the prestigious Ayala brand :)

Sera
November 30th, 2006, 09:24 PM
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3760/ayalatrinomawg1.jpg

^^
Red area - Ayala Trinoma Lot

Green area - Ayala Trinoma expansion?:banana:

Purple area - Ayala lot?:nuts:

cool_78
December 1st, 2006, 01:33 AM
I use to walk from MRT to SM North to save on fares. sayang kasi malayo pag lalakarin, malapit naman pag mag bus pa

Aragon
December 1st, 2006, 01:57 AM
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3760/ayalatrinomawg1.jpg

^^
Red area - Ayala Trinoma Lot

Green area - Ayala Trinoma expansion?:banana:

Purple area - Ayala lot?:nuts:

ang raming squatters in between

kennethologist
December 1st, 2006, 03:49 AM
ang raming squatters in between

nakaka-aliw mga squatters diyan... mga naka-aircon! seryoso!

marites4
December 1st, 2006, 08:02 AM
man look at all the houses that were able to fit in that space between the ayala properties.:ohno:

Sinjin P.
December 1st, 2006, 08:05 AM
Naku God forbid pero kung nasunog ang isa, damay lahat

dancethingy
December 1st, 2006, 03:24 PM
wow, that picture just shows the challenge of relocating/rehabilitating squatter areas of quezon city. Good Grief!!!!!!!! well, i could only hope that ayala co. will give preferrential hiring of the people from that informal settlers' colony.

OtAkAw
December 2nd, 2006, 07:10 AM
Trinoma is near a squatter supercolony??? How are they going to promote the mall as a swanky location if it's near that place?

kennethologist
December 2nd, 2006, 09:13 AM
if you look at it on the bright side... that squatters colony could be the niche market for trinoma... why? eh ang yayaman ng mga squatters na nandyan! mas rich pa samin sila at mga naka-aircon pa sila... those are the professional squatters of QC... people there work at call centers and have decent jobs yet doesn't have their own land...

pero the "eye-sores" will be gone soon in preparation to the QC's CBD... malapit na ang demolition nila...

oth... the patch of land beside the purple box in that google earth pic (the one beside Q-ave) is one of the proposed sites for the PBA arena... so things are really looking good for that part of QC... sayang wala ung vanguard ng QC to tell you all the details :(

Sinjin P.
December 2nd, 2006, 09:26 AM
Trinoma is near a squatter supercolony??? How are they going to promote the mall as a swanky location if it's near that place?

I think Trinoma is meant to cater to all market classes :okay:

pau_p1
December 2nd, 2006, 03:07 PM
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3760/ayalatrinomawg1.jpg

^^
Red area - Ayala Trinoma Lot

Green area - Ayala Trinoma expansion?:banana:

Purple area - Ayala lot?:nuts:

the purple lot is where the North Bus terminal is situated... I forgot the exact name of that but that's where the terminal for provincial buses... is being developed...

kennethologist
December 2nd, 2006, 05:00 PM
some news: a call center will rise at SM North Edsa soon :)

JAMAICUS
December 2nd, 2006, 05:38 PM
the purple lot is where the North Bus terminal is situated... I forgot the exact name of that but that's where the terminal for provincial buses... is being developed...

True, that's where the bus terminal is. But, the bus terminal is deemed "temporary" if you'll look at the structures in the compund(even that market place) and the land is too highly valuable for future developments... also, the site is being considered for the PBA Stadium alongside woth the Manila Seedling Bank land...

JAMAICUS
December 2nd, 2006, 05:47 PM
Trinoma is near a squatter supercolony??? How are they going to promote the mall as a swanky location if it's near that place?

wow, that picture just shows the challenge of relocating/rehabilitating squatter areas of quezon city. Good Grief!!!!!!!! well, i could only hope that ayala co. will give preferrential hiring of the people from that informal settlers' colony.

Well, actualy, the informal settlers will be gone in the near future... the earliest resetlement timetable is next year. From what I have learned, the entire North and East Triangle areas shall be declared a "Central Business District" by the president(which was already discussed with Mayor Sonny Belmonte; PGMA is higly interested) through an Excutive order or a Presidential Decree; thus, numerous events shall happen (resetlement of settlers, upgrading of institutions, transferal of institutions, creation and widening of roads, dividing and selling of land to businesses, etc.)... the process of transferal of settlers will be the same process that they did with the Northrail settlers with once again, Kabayan Noli, spearheading the resettlement... though this QC settlers as far as I know, unlike their Northrail counterparts, have no love for resettlement or for Kabayan Noli because they are very "profesional" in the "settlers industry"...

marites4
December 3rd, 2006, 05:33 AM
that's good news then. :)
I just hope they give out condoms too when they hand out their papers.

ryanr
December 3rd, 2006, 05:38 AM
Paul's pic, enhanced. With an arrow pointing to the part on the next u/c update.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/DSC00414x.jpg

:eek: wow, that looks great...much better than i expected.

Sinjin P.
December 3rd, 2006, 05:43 AM
Ayala never fails to impress everyone :bow:

marites4
December 3rd, 2006, 06:48 AM
Yeah expect nothing but the best from Ayala projects. They always spearhead innovative designs.

OtAkAw
December 3rd, 2006, 06:54 AM
if you look at it on the bright side... that squatters colony could be the niche market for trinoma... why? eh ang yayaman ng mga squatters na nandyan! mas rich pa samin sila at mga naka-aircon pa sila... those are the professional squatters of QC... people there work at call centers and have decent jobs yet doesn't have their own land...

pero the "eye-sores" will be gone soon in preparation to the QC's CBD... malapit na ang demolition nila...

oth... the patch of land beside the purple box in that google earth pic (the one beside Q-ave) is one of the proposed sites for the PBA arena... so things are really looking good for that part of QC... sayang wala ung vanguard ng QC to tell you all the details :(

"Professional squatters", hehe natawa naman aku dun, so iba ibang level na pala ang mga squatters diyan sa MM ngayon, de-aircon pa! Sosyal! Dito kasi sa Pampanga ang mga squatters ay well, squatters and nothing else.

They better find new locations for housing those squatters, turn-off sa mga potential tourists ang mga squatter colonies.

JAMAICUS
December 3rd, 2006, 06:58 AM
Most likely sa Bulacan yung relocation site... yung yung relocation site din ng sttlers mula sa Northrail...

marites4
December 3rd, 2006, 07:17 AM
I hope once they're relocated they're not just left in the dust. Somehow there's a regulating body to monitor them and help them acclimate to their new environs otherwise they will just uglify their new community.

pau_p1
December 4th, 2006, 02:01 AM
yeah.. that's why more and more squatters want to be squatters.... because they expect the government to give them food and houses and work... and when the government gives them a new relocation site they would either demand this and that or if they do accept, some will just sell the house and squat again....

tigidig14
December 4th, 2006, 02:06 AM
kakatawa nga ung location ng squattes sa makati papuntang airport, parang hindi ginagawa ng mmda yung obligation nila

LhexiMont
December 4th, 2006, 07:08 AM
Anyone here who lives or works in a company along Sucat Road , Paranaque ?Because this morning , I just saw a U/C commercial center just across St. James School in Sucat .I think the area was formerly a golf driving range and in between Max's and Paranaque Medical Center .
Anyone who knows , what exactly the name of the u/c complex?

Bosnyboy
December 4th, 2006, 01:30 PM
Viramall sucat?

LhexiMont
December 4th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Speaking of Virramall Sucat , nakita ko nga rin ito malapit sa SM City Sucat . Iba pa yung U/C na mall na binabanggit ko kasi malapit lang ito sa Loyola Memorial Park at malapit din sa BF Homes .

island_boi
December 11th, 2006, 09:51 PM
festival mall indeed the best mall when it comes to location, if only all the malls are located in areas like that, hindi sana masyadong traffic ang ating mga kalsada...

LhexiMont
December 11th, 2006, 11:42 PM
In fairness sa Metropolis mall , hindi talaga kagandahan ang exteriors nito , but inside the mall pasable naman ang interiors and they keep on improving their amenities . Pinaganda nila yung basement area by improving the stalls of those tiangge like small shops and placing them in designated places , medyo okay na rin yung foodcourt at maganda yung area nila ng telecoms shop
( one of the biggest and organized ) . In the upper floors they have a sports zone for boxing, gym , martial arts , basketball , billiard, bowling , badminton , table tennis as well as a value store and home /hardware superstore and its anchor the Robinson Dept store and Supermarket plus Handyman . Matao palagi ang mall , they have improved their cinemas and I just seen that the mall's resort and its cottages were renovated . They also now have a call center in the uppermost floor . Yung chapel nila ay nasa third floor area na beside Value Point .

Festival Mall is indeed superbly located , I saw the grand plans for the whole city center where it is the centerpiece . The planned expansion for the mall in the years to come surrounded by the excellent structures that will comprise the city center will be astounding .

al_teeway
December 11th, 2006, 11:52 PM
THE LEAD SHOPPING COMPLEX in Altavas, Aklan.

It is a 100-Hectare Shopping Complex placed in a rural area (local term, sa Barrio) of aklan. I think it only last for 2 years.

I had been there twice. Konti talaga yung tao tsaka you will not expect that a mall or a shopping complex will be built in a mountain sorrounded by ricefields.

tigidig14
December 11th, 2006, 11:54 PM
is festival mall try to conserve electricity, its very dark in there

tigidig14
December 12th, 2006, 12:12 AM
THE LEAD SHOPPING COMPLEX in Altavas, Aklan.

It is a 100-Hectare Shopping Complex placed in a rural area (local term, sa Barrio) of aklan. I think it only last for 2 years.

I had been there twice. Konti talaga yung tao tsaka you will not expect that a mall or a shopping complex will be built in a mountain sorrounded by ricefields.

neat meron sila dun regular pilino stores like bench, penshoppe and etc.

al_teeway
December 12th, 2006, 12:57 AM
neat meron sila dun regular pilino stores like bench, penshoppe and etc.

wala. but it has a Department Store, Supermarket and other stores. And the complex is not just composed of 1 building. Meron silang Hotel, School, Church, Factory and etc.. hindi nga lang natapos.

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 01:25 AM
is festival mall try to conserve electricity, its very dark in there

Hindi naman madilim. But it's kinda efficient because their materials allow natural daylight to pass through so hindi na kailangan ng maraming lights during daytime

Aragon
December 12th, 2006, 02:39 AM
a natatandaan ko pa yang metropolis nasa flyer pa yan nung pumupunta ako sa tita ko sa ayala alabang very early 90s siguro yun...

alabang was very vacant then

LhexiMont
December 12th, 2006, 03:08 AM
Hindi naman madilim. But it's kinda efficient because their materials allow natural daylight to pass through so hindi na kailangan ng maraming lights during daytime


Yes ..but even so na gumagamit sila ng skylights malamig pa rin sa loob ng mall kahit matapatan ka pa nung sun's rays ..saka durable talaga ..never ko pa nakita na nagkaroon ng leaks or flooding dun .

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 03:11 AM
^ Yup, hindi talaga mainit, malamig nga. There was one time when I was forced to wear a jacket inside the mall :D

thomasian
December 12th, 2006, 06:22 AM
Medyo madilim nga yung lighting nila.

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 10:01 AM
;10246391']http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8711/p1010658filtered4vf.jpg

hideous looking mall....wasnt the site originally a cemetery?

from the looks of it..parang bad vibes sya sa akin...ive never been to a metropolis mall (or that starmall in shaw..tama ba?)

Yeah, it used to be a cemetery. Kaya nga may nagpaparamdam pa daw dyan hanggang ngayon. Aside from physically ugly-looking and the accessibility, that's another reason why I don't visit that mall when I'm in Manila.

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 10:06 AM
pangit talaga ng location...ang traffic sa ilalim nyang alabang viaduct..sobra..

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 10:07 AM
^^ Correct. Tapos sobrang kipot pa ng kalsada. Kapag gumamit ka naman ng overpass, ang baba naman ng kisame. Kailangan ko pang yumuko para lang makadaan dun. Tapos ang dilim pa.:ohno:

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Pero infairness, Metropolis Star couldn't be considered unsuccessful kasi ang daming tao, ideal kasi ang location. Yung exteriors lang naman ang panget. The interiors are decent and well enough for my standards

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 10:10 AM
^^ Correct. Tapos sobrang kipot pa ng kalsada. Kapag gumamit ka naman ng overpass, ang baba naman ng kisame. Kailangan ko pang yumuko para lang makadaan dun. Tapos ang dilim pa.:ohno:

tangkad mo kasi ata...:D

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 10:12 AM
BUMP!
So what are the developments with the malls in Metro Manila? Any Trinoma updates? :colgate:

Bagong gimmick, to keep this thread alive. Rate the malls in Metro Manila you've been to from 1 to 10 and state your reasons and experiences :D

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Yeah, it used to be a cemetery. Kaya nga may nagpaparamdam pa daw dyan hanggang ngayon. Aside from physically ugly-looking and the accessibility, that's another reason why I don't visit that mall when I'm in Manila.

Haha, walang nagpaparamdam sa akin sa loob ng mall :)

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 10:18 AM
edit na nga...para naman akong timang..^^ ako lang nag re-rate...:lol:

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 10:31 AM
tangkad mo kasi ata...:D

Actually, oo. :D Pero kahit na. I-try mo pag nasa Muntinlupa ka. Talagang mababa ung kisame.

Haha, walang nagpaparamdam sa akin sa loob ng mall :)

Wala naman saking nagpaparamdam. Sa friends ko. Kaya ayoko na dun. Baka ako pa multuhin sa susunod eh.:D

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 10:45 AM
^ Ang dami ko nang nabiling jafeyks doon pero tinigilan ko na because of my realization...

Marami nga ang mabibili ko at mura kapag fake pero madali naman masira, low quality unlike if pag-ipunan ko, kahit isa lang na original ang mabili ko, durable naman and long-lasting :yes:

t0yb0y
December 12th, 2006, 11:16 AM
who could ever forget the most famous tiangge of them all, the uniwide sales.

Sinjin P.
December 12th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Uniwide has proven to be successful in the warehouse sector. On the other hand, they proved to fail in the mall business. So I think it's better if they would stick to the warehouse business

t0yb0y
December 12th, 2006, 11:26 AM
mr. mod, its too late for them to stick in their warehouse, theyre gone now, not even their "succesful" warehouse could even get them back to life. some of their existing establishments are on ICU-set up already, ready for the morgue. :lol:

great184
December 12th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Just go to Uniwide Las Pinas and you will see the definition of a failed mall...

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 02:37 PM
^^ Is that the Uniwide Coastal Mall?

OtAkAw
December 12th, 2006, 03:00 PM
^^That mall is a total failure and it's colored coral pink, creating a huge eyesore there! Lapit pamo sa airport where many visitors from foreign nations pass through.

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 03:03 PM
^^ If it's really the Uniwide Coastal Mall, exterior pa lang, failure na.:D Tsaka tuklap-tuklap na ung walls niya, sino pa ba gaganahan pumunta dun? Siguro ung mga taong hindi makapunta sa matitinong mall na malapit dun na lang ang nagtitiyagang pumunta dun.

LhexiMont
December 12th, 2006, 04:38 PM
Some of the failed malls :

Paranaque City
1. Uniwide Coastal Mall
2. Pearl Plaza
3. Airport Citimall

Taguig City
1. Sunshine Mall


Las Pinas City
1, Uniwide Metromall
2. Ever Gotesco

Caloocan
1. Monumento Plaza ( did it opened at all ? )

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 04:41 PM
Some of the failed malls :

Paranaque City
1. Uniwide Coastal Mall
2. Pearl Plaza
3. Airport Citimall

Taguig City
1. Sunshine Mall


Las Pinas City
1, Uniwide Metromall
2. Ever Gotesco

Caloocan
1. Monumento Plaza ( did it opened at all ? )

I've never even heard of all these malls prior to my joining in SSC, except Ever Gotesco. Siguro nga failure sila lahat talaga. They were born to fail.:jk::D

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 04:55 PM
gawin nlng BPO site ang mga yan..^^

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 04:59 PM
Oo nga. Tulad ng Robinsons Metro Bacolod para hindi masayang.

killmart
December 12th, 2006, 05:04 PM
^^^ aww mega mall 5? 10 pa rin sakin un xD kahit kakapagod lakarin at pumunta doon sa kabilang building xD

ito pala ung U/C SM Marikina:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9453/smmarikina01al8.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4931/smmarikina02qd5.jpg

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 05:06 PM
ilang floors kaya yan? di kasi kalakihan ang mga column.

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 05:08 PM
^^^ aww mega mall 5? 10 pa rin sakin un xD kahit kakapagod lakarin at pumunta doon sa kabilang building xD

ito pala ung U/C SM Marikina:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9453/smmarikina01al8.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4931/smmarikina02qd5.jpg

Is this a Supercenter or a City?

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 05:10 PM
nabasa ko rin sa paper na 4% nlng ata vs the total ang ang natitirang office spaces.. So perhaps it's about time to utilize these flop structures..

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 05:12 PM
4% ng alin?:? Nalito ako dun ah.

richard24
December 12th, 2006, 05:14 PM
@kevinb, that's an SM city

@francisxavier... not sure kung ilang floors,...
pero if i'm not mistaken, the floor area is (124,887.85sqm) almost the same as its competitor.,.. rob metro east...

dapat meron din tong toy kingdom! meron kasing toys r us ang metro east eh... dapat din free parking sila like metro east...

WawaY[625]
December 12th, 2006, 05:17 PM
Robinsons Davao WILL be a failure..:D

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Ay natuwa siya kasi magkakaron ng failure ang Davao. Nakakatuwa ka naman, Boyet.:lol: Kinda skeptical.:lol:

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 05:24 PM
4% ng alin?:? Nalito ako dun ah.

4 % nalang of the total office spaces ang available..:)

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 05:25 PM
Wow! malaki nga.. cguro 5 floors yan.. hindi malawak eh...parang sm manila..

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 05:26 PM
^^ Sa buong Pinas?

WawaY[625]
December 12th, 2006, 05:27 PM
Ay natuwa siya kasi magkakaron ng failure ang Davao. Nakakatuwa ka naman, Boyet.:lol: Kinda skeptical.:lol:

malayo kasi sya sa bahay namin ( mga 15 kms) so if i wont go, people wont follow..thus Robinsons Davao will be a failure..:D

FrancisXavier
December 12th, 2006, 05:27 PM
^^ Sa buong Pinas?

sa MM lang po...:lol:

kevinb
December 12th, 2006, 05:30 PM
^^ Ah okay. Haha. Gulat naman ako dun kasi akala ko sa buong Pinas na nga. :lol:

;10846085']malayo kasi sya sa bahay namin ( mga 15 kms) so if i wont go, people wont follow..thus Robinsons Davao will be a failure..:D

Kapal!!!:rofl:

LhexiMont
December 12th, 2006, 10:59 PM
Pero infairness, Metropolis Star couldn't be considered unsuccessful kasi ang daming tao, ideal kasi ang location. Yung exteriors lang naman ang panget. The interiors are decent and well enough for my standards


Yes succesful din naman ang mall , mas maganda pa nga ito nowadays than before . Its Manuela group flagship mall , btw.
Mas naging maganda pa nga sana ito kung hindi na ginawa yung ngayon ay annex mall ng StarMall in Shaw kasi nasayang lang naman yung annex , until now hindi pa talaga tapos . Halos nagkasabay kasi ng construction ang Metropolis Mall at yung The Annex .
There was a time na parang failure na nga ang Metropolis , mabuti na lang at na-save ito ng pagkakaroon ng Robinsons supermarket at dept. store , Handyman , saka yung ValuePoint na rin .

LhexiMont
December 12th, 2006, 11:15 PM
Some of the failed malls :

Paranaque City
1. Uniwide Coastal Mall ( The biggest failed mall since it started , wrong
location , mediocre design )

2. Pearl Plaza ( failed mall since it started , nice mall but wrong
location )
3. Airport Citimall ( Had its heyday , but when SM Sucat came ..it fell )

Taguig City
1. Sunshine Mall ( Failed mall since start , hindi pa natapos )


Las Pinas City
1, Uniwide Metromall ( Had its heyday in early years , suffered with Uniwide's
fall and entry of major malls in Alabang /Bacoor area.

2. Ever Gotesco ( Had its heyday in early years but suffered with
entry of major malls in Alabang /Bacoor area ,
Will soon reborn as DragonPlace

Caloocan
1. Monumento Plaza ( did it opened at all ?

killmart
December 13th, 2006, 03:19 AM
sabi sa wiki 5 storey building at will be the biggest mall in Eastern Metro Manila. Ganda nito pag tapos na xDDD Lapit lang sa bahay ng Lola ko xDDD

problema lang eh ung ilog :(

richard24
December 13th, 2006, 09:52 AM
isa pang problem dito is mahirap pumunta diyan via car.

if you're from marikina....

chaka if you're from SM tapos babalik ka na sa rizal... ur stuck. or you still have to take a u turn at aurora blvd... baduy

sa robinsons nalang ako.

kevinb
December 13th, 2006, 09:57 AM
sabi sa wiki 5 storey building at will be the biggest mall in Eastern Metro Manila. Ganda nito pag tapos na xDDD Lapit lang sa bahay ng Lola ko xDDD

problema lang eh ung ilog :(

Marikina River un di ba?

richard24
December 13th, 2006, 10:04 AM
^^ yep... :) (the cleanest in metro manila, if i'm not mistaken...)

kevinb
December 13th, 2006, 10:06 AM
^^ Binabaha naman palagi.:nocrook:

thomasian
December 13th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Interior of the u/c Midtown wing at Robinsons Place Manila

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/MidtownMall_Interior.jpg

kevinb
December 13th, 2006, 10:26 AM
^^ Is that the one in Ermita or the one at Otis? Ermita nga. Hindi ko nabasa ung caption nang buo eh.

^^ yep... :) (the cleanest in metro manila, if i'm not mistaken...)
^^ Binabaha naman palagi.:nocrook:

Oi Richard, joke lang ha. Baka nainis ka.:)

richard24
December 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM
mejo binabaha nga... lalo na pag lumakas ang ulan... pero hindi naman na mashado...

bat naman ako maiinis... d naman ako taga-marikina... :) hehehe... :)

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ganda nung midtown wing ah... nakakalito na ang rob erimta... lalo na siguro naging mas nakakalito...

Sinjin P.
December 13th, 2006, 11:16 AM
Midtown Mall looks modern, looking forward to that. :okay:

_zner_
December 14th, 2006, 02:04 PM
TriNoMa 12.14.06

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sorry, di ganong maganda yung angle pati yung pics. naglalakad kasi ako nun e. :D

FrancisXavier
December 14th, 2006, 02:07 PM
parang i dont see progress.. except for the glass curtain wall.

Sinjin P.
December 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Nice @myx, progress can really be seen, good that it's on schedule...

Anyway, lol @ the 3 layers of Bench billboards tapos may isa pa sa gilid :rofl:

_zner_
December 14th, 2006, 02:25 PM
parang i dont see progress.. except for the glass curtain wall.

kasi last month pa talaga yung mga pics na yan... :lol: :jk:

Nice @myx, progress can really be seen, good that it's on schedule...

Anyway, lol @ the 3 layers of Bench billboards tapos may isa pa sa gilid :rofl:


kung alam mo lang kung ganong karaming billboards ang nagbalik dyan sa tapat ng sm north... :lol: next time puro billboards naman ang pipicturan ko.. feeling ko nga talo pa yung sa may Guadalupe eh. :lol:
billboard ko na lang ang kulang.. :jk: :D

FrancisXavier
December 14th, 2006, 02:25 PM
Nice @myx, progress can really be seen, good that it's on schedule...

Anyway, lol @ the 3 layers of Bench billboards tapos may isa pa sa gilid :rofl:
LOLS, talagang kinontra ang sinabi ko...:lol:

anyway, nice update (((myx)))

Sinjin P.
December 14th, 2006, 02:30 PM
@Lew: Hehe. I did not mean to reprove your post, hindi ko nga nabasa eh. :lol: Anyway, yeah, if you compare it with previous updates, dati, skeleton pa lang yung Trinoma. Hahay, sana magbukas nga siya sa May para ako ang magbinyag :)

FrancisXavier
December 14th, 2006, 02:32 PM
diba may naman talaga ang scheduled opening date? I think 5 months is enough to finish everything..

Sinjin P.
December 14th, 2006, 02:34 PM
diba may naman talaga ang scheduled opening date? I think 5 months is enough to finish everything..

Yup, pero alam mo naman, palaging may mga delays kapag ganyan gaya ng Mall of Asia... Anyway, for the information of all, the opening on May will still be a soft opening daw. The grand opening is set during the '07 Christmas Season :)

Dvorak
December 15th, 2006, 06:25 AM
Krispy Kreme, America’s most loved doughnut, opens in Megamall!

On THURSDAY, December 21, the second Krispy Kreme store opens, at SM Megamall Building B Upper Ground Floor .

Opening day at a Krispy Kreme store is a fun event and we'd love to have you come by, join in the festivities and experience a Hot Original Glazed fresh off the line

Here are reasons why you families, friends, barkadas, school and church organizations, and everybody should line up before the doors open on December 21 at 10 a.m.

You will be among the first to experience the hot doughnut phenomenon and sample Hot Krispy Kreme Original Glazed doughnut.

The first customer to ring the cash register will win a FREE ONE YEAR SUPPLY of Original Glazed doughnut, one dozen per week!

Free limited edition Krispy Kreme original t-shirt for the first 300 customers!

Lots of raffle prizes – SIX MONTHS free doughnuts, THREE MONTHS free doughnuts, and ONE MONTH free doughnuts, for the 2nd up to the 300th customers!

The HOT Light is ON at Megamall on December 21.
See you there!

futbolista
December 15th, 2006, 06:42 AM
nauna pa yung KK sa Mega kesa sa MOA? sa'n yun pwesto nila?

Dvorak
December 15th, 2006, 07:30 AM
building B upper Ground.. di dun sa ilalim nang grocery?

nauna pa yung KK sa Mega kesa sa MOA? sa'n yun pwesto nila?

marites4
December 15th, 2006, 07:49 AM
oh my god the multinational fastfood monsters have taken over the PHisl.

Sinjin P.
December 15th, 2006, 11:58 AM
So Trinoma will open (soft opening) on May 2007 and the main entrance will be at Mindanao Avenue.

flip2_0
December 15th, 2006, 02:41 PM
parang i dont see progress.. except for the glass curtain wall.

but at least its beginning to look "WHOLE" now from the outside, right? :lol:

FrancisXavier
December 15th, 2006, 02:44 PM
but comparing that recent one from myx's previous updates, dont really see major difference.. perhaps, they're working more on the interiors..

Sinjin P.
December 15th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Let's just wait and see shall we? :colgate:

Sinjin P.
December 16th, 2006, 12:46 PM
So does Mr. Sy want to get richer? I was really happy when only Metro Manila and some SM malls in Luzon charged parking fees. But know, I'm getting this information from a reliable SM contact of mine that effective next year, SM Cebu will be charging P10/hour for its outdoor parking and P20/hour for its indoor parking. P10 does not hurt but it's the per hour charging that hurts, lol, to think that I spend at least 8 hours a day in the mall :lol: Anyway, this may be quite off topic but I just wanted to bring this issue up

thomasian
December 22nd, 2006, 02:16 PM
The TriNoma EDSA-side update - because no one seems to be taking much updates for this part of TN:

12.17.06
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_121706_002x.jpg

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Another view of the scale-model
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/TriNoma_ScaleModel3.jpg

A (very) colorful TriNoma rendering
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/TriNoma_Rendering.jpg

_zner_
December 23rd, 2006, 02:36 AM
trinoma (mrt side) 12.16.06 (sorry, nadelay.. haha.. busy masyado. pati yung GB5 update di ko pa rin naa-upload.)


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thomasian
December 23rd, 2006, 06:08 AM
Ayos, full-force ang MRT-side TriNoma update namin ni (((myx))). :guns1:

Sera
December 25th, 2006, 11:59 AM
This Mall is my most anticipated ever...
Truly the TriNoma is the mall to watch for next year :)

Because:
1. It is built by Ayalas (arguably the best in Mall development & design)
2. It costs a huge 6 billion (as much as the SM MoA).
3. It is one of the most accessible (by MRT & via EDSA or Mindanao Ave.)
4. It has the Largest Leasable Area among all Philippine Malls at over 195,000 sq. m.
5. It has the Largest Mall Building in the Philippines. The Festival Supermall is also huge...The largest SM's are usually agglomerations of multiple buildings connected by bridges (e.g. SM Mall of Asia - 4 buildings, SM NoE - 4 Buildings & SM Megamall - 2 Buildings)

Just imagine its overall size if the Ayala's decide to expand this masterpiece. If you look at Google Earth there are still adjacent parcels of land available for an Annex of so!!! Also take note that ALL MAJOR Ayala Malls have been expanded (Glorietta, Greenbelt, Alabang Town Center, Ayala Cebu) :)

That's why SM is going to the extent of making their NoE mall there biggest because the TriNoma is a huge competitor...

Sinjin P.
December 25th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Yup, I'm feeling more excited for Trinoma than the Mall of Asia, lol.

I think this sole building will be the experiment stage for Trinoma and eventually, I am confident that Ayala Land will decide to expand this masterpiece and add more amenities: possibly an IMAX or THX theatre, a bowling center, a skating rink, etc. Who knows :D

thomasian
December 25th, 2006, 02:26 PM
That's why SM is going to the extent of making their NoE mall there biggest because the TriNoma is a huge competitor...

Plus an IMAX.

Question, on a cost-per-square-meter basis, which is more expensive, MoA or TriNoma?

BTW,Nadaanan ko lang, anong meron dito?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_121706_004x.jpg

Sinjin P.
December 25th, 2006, 02:36 PM
ALL SM SUPERMALLS NATIONWIDE: Year-End Sale - Up to 50% off - Dec 26 - 31, 2006

ALL SM DEPARTMENT STORES NATIONWIDE: Clearance Sale - Up to 50% off - Dec 25 - 31, 2006

Sera
December 25th, 2006, 03:50 PM
Plus an IMAX.

Question, on a cost-per-square-meter basis, which is more expensive, MoA or TriNoma?

BTW,Nadaanan ko lang, anong meron dito?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_121706_004x.jpg

I'm not sure what's more expensive (per sq.m.) :nuts:
But if they cost approximately the same (around 6 billion) the bigger mall will have a smaller cost/sq.m. We'll just have to wait for the official figures on TriNoma's Gross Floor Area to see who's bigger.
I really can't wait 1 more year before its Grand Opening on December 2007.
Childish as it seems but i'm really anticipating TriNoma's 3-4 story cascading waterfalls :banana:

kennethologist
December 25th, 2006, 04:35 PM
breaktime! SM Perbs muna!! hehehe...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix403.jpg
^^ SM Perbs Annex Facade and Al Fresco Dining area. (closing time)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix391.jpg
^^ SM Perbs Southwest Gate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix364.jpg
^^ SM Perbs Atriums (similar sa bacoor and iloilo... this one is the largest)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix363.jpg
^^ SM Perbs Hallways.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix368.jpg
^^ SM perbs' Fitness First at the east wing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix377.jpg
^^ SM perbs' Bowling center at the west wing

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2006, 03:18 AM
breaktime! SM Perbs muna!! hehehe...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix364.jpg
^^ SM Perbs Atriums (similar sa bacoor and iloilo... this one is the largest)



SM's Christmas decors this year are better than last year's :yes:

tigidig14
December 26th, 2006, 04:26 AM
wow trinoma looks like it will be grand daDdyio

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2006, 04:27 AM
^ What's Daddyio? Daddy with the io? If so, what's IO? :lol:

tigidig14
December 26th, 2006, 04:32 AM
like saying whats the dealy yo or daddy yo

thomasian
December 26th, 2006, 06:16 AM
I really can't wait 1 more year before its Grand Opening on December 2007.

Then you should just wait for the May '07 soft launch.

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2006, 06:17 AM
^ Just in time for my '07 AKNAS! :banana:

LhexiMont
December 26th, 2006, 06:28 AM
Lahat yata ng municipality /city sa Metro Manila may mall na ..how about sa Pateros ?

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2006, 06:30 AM
Lahat yata ng municipality /city sa Metro Manila may mall na ..how about sa Pateros ?

It is too small to have a mall (2.1 sq. km - 2,100,000 sq. m) and besides, it is surrounded by Makati, Pasig and Taguig :)

LhexiMont
December 26th, 2006, 07:54 AM
It is too small to have a mall (2.1 sq. km - 2,100,000 sq. m) and besides, it is surrounded by Makati, Pasig and Taguig :)

Really , kahit man lang maliit na commercial strip wala ?

Sera
December 26th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Then you should just wait for the May '07 soft launch.

Hopefully the 3-4 story waterfall from the promenade area to the atrium will be ready by then :lol:

thomasian
December 26th, 2006, 08:14 AM
^^ Pag wala pa, magdala ka na lang ng timba at buhusan mo ng tubig para makita mo ang waterfall effect niya. :hilarious

Sinjin P.
December 26th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Really , kahit man lang maliit na commercial strip wala ?

Wala nang vacant area... And I think that area is not ideal for a mall, considering that it is surrounded by Taguig (Market! Market!), Makati (Ayala Center, Rockwell, etc.) and Pasig (SM, Robinsons, Sta. Lucia, etc.) as I said earlier :D

Sera
December 26th, 2006, 01:33 PM
^^ Pag wala pa, magdala ka na lang ng timba at buhusan mo ng tubig para makita mo ang waterfall effect niya. :hilarious

Wag na baka kasuhan ako ng Public Scandal at i-ban ako sa TriNoma for life:crazy:

ishtefh_03
December 27th, 2006, 02:25 PM
well, im just arranging some of my photos and i found this... interior pics of shangrila in shaw taken last july pa...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ishtefh_03/DSC05297.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ishtefh_03/DSC05296.jpg

OtAkAw
December 28th, 2006, 06:43 AM
SM's Christmas decors this year are better than last year's :yes:

I don't like them, they look like Red Blood Cells!:bash:

Sinjin P.
December 28th, 2006, 06:47 AM
^ Well I like 'em. Last year's were stars and other Christmas-y figures in pure red too. Christmas is red and SM loves red

Dvorak
December 28th, 2006, 06:49 AM
so kamusta naman Krispy Kreme sa Megamall?? i heard maliit lang daw yung store?? between Pizza Hut and Goldilocks?? tama ba?

Sinjin P.
December 28th, 2006, 11:21 AM
Hmm, can someone post pics of Ever Gotesco Malls, Star Malls and Uniwide Malls for a change? :lol: :colgate:

Sera
December 28th, 2006, 11:53 AM
^^Interesado lang ako sa Metropolis Star kasi yun lang ata ang di nag-flop :laugh:

JAMAICUS
December 28th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Gateway Mall wins design competition
Gateway Mall garnered the merit award in the 2006 International Design and Development Awards sponsored by the International Council of Shopping Centers, a statement from the firm said.

The International Design and Development Awards recognizes excellence and sets the standard for the best and brightest retail and redevelopment projects around the globe.

"Gateway Mall has been chosen for its innovations in mall design and amenities, serving as the catalyst for the renaissance of the urban district that is the Araneta Center," the statement said.

Winners were announced last Nov. 30 at the Marriott Desert Ridge Hotel in Phoenix, Arizona, during the International Council of Shopping Centers Centerbuild Conference, the statement added.
http://www.bworldonline.com/BW122806/content.php?id=104

Sera
December 28th, 2006, 02:14 PM
^^Wow! Gateway has beaten the likes of the SM MoA and Greenbelt 4! I've geen to Gateway and i'm really not that impressed. The place seems to be TOO White :laugh:

JAMAICUS
December 28th, 2006, 02:47 PM
^^ Uhmm, Greenbelt already has an international award if I'm not mistaken...

Sera
December 28th, 2006, 03:08 PM
^^Yes I really like all the Ayala Malls, they're so graceful. Even Market2 exteriors look nice

kennethologist
December 29th, 2006, 04:27 AM
hayyy... i have alot of new pics to share! kaso because of the internet disruption that happened in SEA due to the earthquake, limited lang ang bandwidth for internet... di ako makapag-upload ng maayos :(

i was supposed to share pics ng 2006 christmas decors ng shang and gateway and some megamall holiday exteriors.... :( sad sad new year for internet users in the philippines...

Sinjin P.
December 29th, 2006, 04:36 AM
:( sad sad new year for internet users in the philippines...

Not just for internet users but for cellphone users too :(

thomasian
December 29th, 2006, 05:52 AM
^^ Uhmm, Greenbelt already has an international award if I'm not mistaken...

Yes, one from Urban Land Institute and ICSC - International Council of Shopping Centers.

Sera
December 29th, 2006, 05:55 PM
^^Did any SM Mall receive such an award?

Sinjin P.
December 30th, 2006, 05:13 AM
^ SM Baguio :nuts:

Sera
December 30th, 2006, 06:47 AM
^^SM Baguio won as "Philippine" mall of the year for 2005...I mean an International Award not a local award.

Sera
December 30th, 2006, 07:59 AM
World's largest shopping malls
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of world's largest shopping malls, based on gross leasable area.

Mall Location Size (millions of square feet)
1. South China Mall Dongguan, China 7.1
2.Golden Resources Mall Beijing, China 6
3. SM Mall of Asia Manila, Philippines 4.2
4. West Edmonton Mall Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 3.8
5. SM Megamall Manila, Philippines 3.6
6. Beijing Mall Beijing, China 3.4
7. Grandview Mall Guangzhou, China 3
8. SM City North Edsa Manila, Philippines 3
9. South Coast Plaza Costa Mesa, CA, USA 2.7
10. King of Prussia Mall King of Prussia, PA, USA 2.6
11. Central World Bangkok, Thailand 2.6
12. Shopping Leste Aricanduva São Paulo, Brazil 2.6
13. Chia Tai Square Shanghai, China 2.6
14. Mall of America Bloomington, Minnesota, USA 2.5
15. Siam Paragon Bangkok, Thailand 2.5

Note: Since the NEW basis of the World's Largest Mall is on the Gross Leasable Area of a mall, the TriNoma or the Expanded SM City North EDSA will be the Biggest Mall in the Phils. soon.

Sinjin P.
December 30th, 2006, 08:18 AM
^ The above list is somehow inaccurate. The figures for SM North EDSA and SM Megamall are their gross floor areas. Their leasable areas, as posted in the previous threads, just range from 160,000 to 190,000 square meters. Perhaps SM gave them those figures just to be part of the list :lol:

ganzo
December 30th, 2006, 09:08 AM
Sm megamall will undergo mall expansion this january 2007 ^_^ kaya lalaki yung
gross floor area niya

Sera
December 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM
^ The above list is somehow inaccurate. The figures for SM North EDSA and SM Megamall are their gross floor areas. Their leasable areas, as posted in the previous threads, just range from 160,000 to 190,000 square meters. Perhaps SM gave them those figures just to be part of the list :lol:

I agree, The SM MoA has an actual GLA of 145,000+ Sq. m., no way near the biggest Phil. Mall. SM Mega (190,000+ sq.m.) and SM NoE (195,000+ sq.m.) even have bigger GLA's. There should be standard way of defining the Biggest Mall.

Sinjin P.
December 30th, 2006, 10:03 AM
Sm megamall will undergo mall expansion this january 2007 ^_^ kaya lalaki yung
gross floor area niya

Where did you get such news? So perhaps it will be like SM Cebu's annex? A building with a multilevel carpark and some leasable spaces?

Sinjin P.
December 30th, 2006, 10:09 AM
I agree, The SM MoA has an actual GLA of 145,000+ Sq. m., no way near the biggest Phil. Mall. SM Mega (190,000+ sq.m.) and SM NoA (195,000+ sq.m.) even have bigger GLA's. There should be standard way of defining the Biggest Mall.

Leasable Area:

185,799 sqm. - SM City North EDSA
184,411 sqm. - SM Megamall Ortigas
142,146 sqm. - SM Mall of Asia

195,000 - 200,000 sqm. - Trinoma

Sera
December 30th, 2006, 05:48 PM
^^Technically, TriNoma would become the Biggest Phil. Mall come 2007, but Ayala isn't as keen to fetch for Records but their Malls speak for themselves-their simply the Best:)

metrosuburban
December 30th, 2006, 10:43 PM
so kamusta naman Krispy Kreme sa Megamall?? i heard maliit lang daw yung store?? between Pizza Hut and Goldilocks?? tama ba?

maliit lang ciya, at hindi na masyadong crowded.. umoorder lang kami ng takeout tas aalis na...

and with all that hype bout KK, oh well, ang masasabi kolang e, pare-pareho lang silang donuts, sweet.. yun lang..

feistyradical
December 31st, 2006, 06:24 AM
Krispy Kreme Original is really good while warm. I tried it in the early 90s pa on my first trip to the U.S. I could only eat one because it's so sweet! Mega-calories talaga. Actually, lugi na ang donut stores sa U.S. kasi allergic sa carbs ang mga tao doon(pero matataba pa rin sila!).

maliit lang ciya, at hindi na masyadong crowded.. umoorder lang kami ng takeout tas aalis na...

and with all that hype bout KK, oh well, ang masasabi kolang e, pare-pareho lang silang donuts, sweet.. yun lang..

feistyradical
December 31st, 2006, 06:27 AM
Can't wait for Trinoma to open! I live nearby (Scout Area) so it's just 10-15 minutes away depending on the traffic. The shortest route for me would be West Avenue exiting EDSA.

^^Technically, TriNoma would become the Biggest Phil. Mall come 2007, but Ayala isn't as keen to fetch for Records but their Malls speak for themselves-their simply the Best:)

feistyradical
December 31st, 2006, 06:33 AM
I like Gateway although it's not a fave - I wish it was bigger with more stores. BTW, I dislike their Rustan's department store. It's too small, I feel claustrophobic shopping in there!


^^Wow! Gateway has beaten the likes of the SM MoA and Greenbelt 4! I've geen to Gateway and i'm really not that impressed. The place seems to be TOO White :laugh:

Sinjin P.
December 31st, 2006, 08:41 AM
^^Technically, TriNoma would become the Biggest Phil. Mall come 2007, but Ayala isn't as keen to fetch for Records but their Malls speak for themselves-their simply the Best:)

Yeah, but remember, Ayala builds big malls. None of their malls (Glorietta, Greenbelt, ATC, ACC, M2, 3N) are below 100,000 square meters in size :yes:

But yeah, Ayala Malls are not known for their size. But for their substance. Stepping in an Ayala Mall will make my day (even M2)

thomasian
December 31st, 2006, 12:04 PM
I like Gateway although it's not a fave - I wish it was bigger with more stores. BTW, I dislike their Rustan's department store. It's too small, I feel claustrophobic shopping in there!

Pero maganda siya ah, kasi siya ang pinakabagong dept. store nila eh. Sana na lang mag-expand sila sa Gateway Annex, katabi lang naman nila yung ginagawang expansion eh.

Sera
December 31st, 2006, 03:00 PM
Even though I currently stay at Proj. 4, Q.C., sasadyain ko talaga yung TriNoma kasi lagi nalang ako sa Araneta Center at Eastwood. Medyo, cautious nga lang ako kasi wala pa akong 1 month dito sa Manila :)

marcintexas
January 1st, 2007, 01:03 AM
This was nice to read:

NO VANILLA IN MANILLA
The Philippines boasts some of the world’s most innovative retail projects
By Joel Groover

Asian developers hunting for new retail concepts often ask Scott Harris for a list of must-see malls in the U.S. But Harris, who, as ICSC’s vice president of business development, monitors activity in Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Middle East, likes to show these seekers that a Grand Tour of American Malls may not even be all that necessary.

“If you want to see some really interesting, creative stuff that is working,” Harris tells them, “go to the Philippines.”

With the help of U.S. and European business partners and consultants, developers in China, India and the Middle East are rapidly mastering shopping center basics. In the Philippines, however, a handful of local developers have been putting up modern regional malls and mixed-use projects for decades. “Their properties are well designed and very professionally managed and operated,” said Harris. “These are people who understand the business.”

It is a hallmark of the industry’s maturity that Philippines developers — Araneta Group, Ayala Land, Robinsons Land Corp. and SM Prime Holdings among the dominant names — spend much of their time strategizing about how to reinvent, expand and differentiate aging properties. Some malls in the Philippines, such as Ayala Land’s 700,000-square-foot Greenbelt, in Manila’s Makati Central Business District, have undergone multiple remakes in the past few years and yet continue to evolve along with the country’s fast-growing consumer economy. Ayala Land plans to open the first and second phases of Greenbelt 5, a 336,000-square-foot fashion, luxury retail and fine-dining expansion (so named because it will be the fifth retail component to be built at Greenbelt) in October 2007 and August 2008, respectively. This year SM Prime Holdings completed a five-level, 820,000-square-foot expansion of one of the first malls built in the Philippines, SM City North Edsa, which has grown from one building to four since opening in Quezon City in 1985.

New malls, too, are on the drawing board, particularly on the outskirts of metro Manila and in the high-growth provincial cities. SM Prime, which owns 27 malls amounting to a total 38.7 million square feet, will open as many as six malls per year during each of the next four years, says Jeffrey Lim, the firm’s executive vice president for finance and administration. SM Prime opened five malls this year, including SM Mall of Asia, a behemoth that made international headlines and for whose May 21 opening nearly 1 million people turned out. The 4.2 million-square-foot center, which occupies 19.5 hectares in Pasay City, next to Manila Bay, is the largest mall in the Philippines and the third-largest in the world, behind only China’s Golden Resources Mall, in Beijing, and the South China Mall, in Dongguan. Besides some 700 local and international retailers and approximately 150 indoor and outdoor dining outlets, the Mall of Asia is home to the country’s first Imax cinema and its first Olympic-size skating rink. Perhaps more impressive, though, is the fact that this mammoth property is over 90 percent leased. “Sometimes it is difficult to imagine how the Philippines can hold a mall of this size,” Lim said.

The flood of international tourists visiting the mall clearly helps. But the real driver of mall development in the Philippines is the extra cash that now fattens the wallets of many local shoppers, observers say.

Some of that cash comes from the mass migration of business process outsourcing (BPO) outfits to the country. Tess Fernandez, head of research at Jones Lang LaSalle’s Manila office, writes in an October report that the Philippines now ranks second to India as the outsourcing destination of choice for multinational corporations. Fernandez cites government data showing that as many as 150 outsourcing firms, which earned revenues of about $2.4 billion in 2005, have set up shop there. The BPO industry’s annual growth rate stands at between 75 percent and 100 percent. “The boom in outsourcing is driving growth in other sectors, most notably in the real estate industry,” Fernandez wrote.

Indeed, retail real estate property holders reap manifold benefits from this boom. A shortage of office space in the Philippines means that BPO firms must pay higher rents for offices at mixed-use developments. It also means that they are more likely to move into Philippines malls.

Computer maker Dell operates a large outsourcing branch at the Mall of Asia, and Robinsons Land has wired up high-tech call centers at five of its shopping centers.

And young BPO workers love to shop, of course. “BPO workers are normally between the ages of 22 and 30, with very strong purchasing power,” said Nilo S. Mapa, general manager of Robinsons Land’s commercial centers division. “These are people who are likely to be single, and in the Philippines, even at that age, so long as you are single you live with your parents. This gives [these workers] a huge propensity to spend.”

They cannot spend that disposable income, however, if the malls and restaurants they would patronize are closed when they finish their shifts. “Interestingly enough, their work hours are during our nighttime, when the mall is closed,” Mapa said. “When they get out at 6 o’clock in the morning, they need some places where they can spend some recreation and eat. We now have to open certain sections of the mall to be able to accommodate them.”

Other economic factors buoy consumer spending too. During the Asian financial crisis of 1997, the sheer volume of remittances from overseas Filipino workers enabled the Philippines to weather the storm better than some of its neighbors. In 2005 an estimated 10 million Filipinos in 180 countries sent $10 billion back home. The Filipino population now stands at 89.4 million and is growing at about 2 percent per year. The median age is just 22.5.

Beyond macroeconomics is the centrality of shopping in Philippines culture, which long ago coined the term “malling” as a national pastime. On weekends it is not unusual for Filipino families to spend about four hours at the mall, says Miriam O. Katigbak, executive vice president and head of Ayala Land’s mall division. A foreign visitor might be surprised to see churches in the country’s shopping centers, but for Filipinos, a Sunday of malling often begins with mass, right on the property. “The Philippines basically has two seasons, the rainy season and the very hot summer season, and so an enclosed, air-conditioned space is a luxury for many,” said Katigbak. “Also, we don’t have that many open parks and museums and places to entertain, so the mall has become a gathering place for everyone.”

To be sure, the Philippines’ shopping center industry is not without challenges. A typical mall is a one-stop-shopping site measuring between 540,000 and 860,000 square feet, Lim says. Occupancy rates at these properties are high — Mapa estimates north of 90 percent for the portfolios of Ayala, Robinsons Land and SM Prime. But many of these tenants are local mom-and-pops, and the anchor stores are frequently owned and operated by the mall owners themselves.

“There are lots of good entrepreneurs in the Philippines, but their access to capital is not as high,” Mapa said. “So oftentimes the domestic retailers aren’t as excited to expand as aggressively as we are, especially when it comes to the provincial areas.”

Mapa, for one, would like to see the major owners do more to set themselves apart from one another by offering distinct tenant mixes. If more international retail chains stepped up their presence in the Philippines, this would be easier, Mapa says. But as columnist William Esposo noted in a recent article for Philippines news site Inq7.net, international investors often have an exaggerated view of the risks of doing business in the Philippines, in part because media coverage focuses on violent crime in Manila, Muslim and communist insurgencies in the provinces, government scandals and the gap between rich and poor.

Still, the major mall owners are working toward differentiation. Ayala puts a major focus on special events and now has some 18,000 event days across its eight-mall portfolio. (The company has five expansions and/or new developments in the pipeline.) Its Greenbelt reinvention, in fact, is a good example of the role creativity can play in differentiation. Before its 2002 redevelopment, Greenbelt was an unremarkable jumble of specialty and convenience retail anchored by a bus terminal, a supermarket and two open-air centers.

The goal of the redesign was to offer something new to Filipino shoppers by overturning the regional mall concept to which they have long been accustomed. Rather than a department store or supermarket, Greenbelt’s primary anchor is a 300,000-square-foot park that, with its lagoon and tropical landscaping, serves as an oasis for up to 100,000 daily visitors.

The standard mall here is an air-conditioned, enclosed box that shields shoppers from the elements. Greenbelt, by contrast, defied skeptics — and the Philippines’ tropical climate — by adopting an open-air format and streetscape design, all in a country where outdoor cafés cooled by misters and shaded by trees and awnings are ubiquitous. The mall further defied conventional wisdom by emphasizing exterior architecture and nonretail elements such as an art museum and a chapel. Some 70 percent of its 250 tenants serve food.

Ayala wants the Greenbelt 5 expansion to showcase local talent. “What will make Greenbelt 5 unique is that, aside from having more restaurants featuring the best chefs, we are also going to have a Filipino zone that will feature the best Filipino artists in fashion and home,” said Rowena Tomeldan, vice president and deputy head of Ayala Malls Group. “The Philippines has a lot of top exporters, but they don’t sell their product in the country.”

Given the resiliency of Filipino shoppers and the creativity of these mall owners, it’s no wonder Harris is bullish on the country. “It qualifies as one of those hidden opportunities that is not normally mentioned when people talk about emerging markets,” Harris said. “I went earlier this year, and every place I visited was really crowded. People were shopping, and there was a lot of vibrancy.”

http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/sct1206/feat_manila.php

kennethologist
January 1st, 2007, 04:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/camphone2.jpg
^^ this was shot from the parking building of the shang... check out the pampanga parols at the parking area...

kennethologist
January 1st, 2007, 04:47 PM
At di talaga ako tumigil....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/perbsgreenssc.jpg
^^ Glammed up pic of its annex from my SLR cam (may fireworks display sila that night kaya i had my SLR ready)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/perbsgreen2.jpg
^^ Glammed up bad-shot pic of its main mall from my SLR cam

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/perbscam.jpg
^^ un-glammed annex pic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/pire12.jpg
^^ the fireworks display (they had this every weekend from late november to december....this one was produced by the same people that does pyrotechnics at SM MoA)

kennethologist
January 1st, 2007, 05:14 PM
and the pics keep on coming!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix465.jpg
^^ Shang's huge atrium with giant ornaments

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix463.jpg
^^ Santa's Sleigh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix460.jpg
^^ another angle of Santa's sleigh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SMPerbs/Pix459.jpg
^^ the raindeers!

flip2_0
January 1st, 2007, 09:51 PM
Can't wait for Trinoma to open! I live nearby (Scout Area) so it's just 10-15 minutes away depending on the traffic. The shortest route for me would be West Avenue exiting EDSA.

But the traffic on the area is horrible on critical hours... but correct me if I'm wrong, from what I experienced last week, they've put the U-turn slot farther away from the Edsa-North-West intersection! Kudos to MMDA! :banana:

tigidig14
January 1st, 2007, 10:21 PM
^^Technically, TriNoma would become the Biggest Phil. Mall come 2007, but Ayala isn't as keen to fetch for Records but their Malls speak for themselves-their simply the Best:)

WOW bigger than sm moa

kennethologist
January 2nd, 2007, 05:26 AM
^^ for me it's not about how big the mall is or how grand its tenants are, for me it's about the experience you have in a mall, because the bottom line is, you can't spend too much on high end tenants, you can't tire yourself to get to the biggest mall dahil at the end of the day you'll find out na pareho-pareho lang ang laman at ng lahat ng malls dito... :)

Dvorak
January 2nd, 2007, 08:48 AM
Krispy Kreme @ SM Megamall, eh wala namang kapila pila don.. mukhang hindi nag click sa masa..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/kkmega1.jpg

marites4
January 2nd, 2007, 08:54 AM
kung ganyan bang kamahal eh, talagang donut gonuts na lang ako.

Dvorak
January 2nd, 2007, 08:58 AM
bakit nga pala pag Jan. 1 sarado yung ibang malls?? Kahapon sarado Shangrila.. sarado din SM department store / grocery sa Megamall.. yung ibang shops sa powerplant.. mga 50% sarado..

kennethologist
January 2nd, 2007, 09:25 AM
Krispy Kreme @ SM Megamall, eh wala namang kapila pila don.. mukhang hindi nag click sa masa..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/kkmega1.jpg


it did have a long que when we visited that last thursday... they even rented flatscreen tvs to show clips of hollywood flicks mentioning krispy kreme...

ang weird naman nun, walang line nung bukas ung hot light, pero nung nakita kong sobra ung pila di naman on ung hot light...

kennethologist
January 2nd, 2007, 09:28 AM
bakit nga pala pag Jan. 1 sarado yung ibang malls?? Kahapon sarado Shangrila.. sarado din SM department store / grocery sa Megamall.. yung ibang shops sa powerplant.. mga 50% sarado..

be happy at least for one day sarado ang mga malls... they to deserve a break after the tiring holiday season... :lol:

Dvorak
January 2nd, 2007, 09:35 AM
well.. it's just that we went out yesterday hoping to do some shopping.. ehh wala namang bukas.. it's just weird na first day of the year sarado mga shops..

be happy at least for one day sarado ang mga malls... they to deserve a break after the tiring holiday season... :lol:

Sinjin P.
January 2nd, 2007, 09:41 AM
^ Correct. And they're just being practical kasi sino ba namang pupunta ng mall, eh natutulog ng husto ang mga tao after the holiday season and they're getting ready to go to work again; sino ang may bibilhin kung naubos na ang pera sa media noche at mga paputok. :D

OtAkAw
January 2nd, 2007, 01:38 PM
^^For sure back to business na lahat bukas, school starts tomorrow.

Sinjin P.
January 2nd, 2007, 01:40 PM
^ Yes, and even today, back to regular mall hours na ;)

thomasian
January 2nd, 2007, 01:57 PM
The Podium and Shangri-La Plaza is just a few meters away from SM Megamall, I don't see why they sticked with SM when their target market is actually the crowd that frequents Podium and Shang. What, the heavy pedestrian traffic of Mega? What's the use of that heavy crowd when the people there won't even want to buy a P30 donut or if have not yet even heard of KK?

salamangkero
January 2nd, 2007, 02:40 PM
bad call for the KK franchise owner/s